Here and Now...What's Happening?

[ulli]

Or when I drove on closed highways all night (in an area where snow means nothing!), at above the speed limit, on uncleared heavily snowed roads, combined with blizzard whiteouts (periodical). For almost 10 hours. The car had to be controlled for every inch of highway traveled. 100% on... and in the zone, for the whole drive.

All while playing this song on infinite repeat:

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An interestingly high number of you connected to it and described parts of the journey, with no prompting.

Reminds me of when I was around thirty, and still into driving fast, at nights, on the Motorways in England. No police around, so always ignoring the speed limit. Had the latest model BMW in those days, renewing every two years. Only once was I stopped, at 3 am, in Eaton Square, London, by a policeman who said to me, "What do you think this is, then? Brands 'atch or someting??" He let me go without a ticket, because apparently he was going on holidays within three hours, and didnt want it on his conscience to ruin my fun. Those were his words.
Later, when I visited an old psychic, or spiritual medium, as they were called.
And he told me that the guides told him that I had a bit of a lead foot? I didnt know what he meant, and asked him.
He said that I liked to drive fast, and with my foot all the way down on the gas pedal, and sometimes the spirit guides had to take over the stirring wheel. And I knew instantly what he meant, as I remembered how once in Barbados with friends in the car, coming back from a night club I lifted both my hands off the wheel, and told them," Look, no hands, the car is driving itself".
True story.

[ulli]

http://www.geekwire.com/2016/trump-clinton-jobs-automation/

http://http://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/160729-robot-worker-replacement-shutterstock.jpg

Robots replacing workers. Neither candidate is addressing this scenario.

[thunder24]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/skydiver-becomes-first-person-jump-land-without-chute-070456645--spt.html

beyond this being to me a talent, the video seems to show this rounded sky line....naw we know the earth is flat

[ulli]

Im back in touch with one of my early days London landlords, via Facebook.
His life has been even more turbulent than mine, what with living in more than four countries.
He is now living in Seoul, South Korea, and while living in Japan became a journalist. Moved to Korea after Fukushima.

And he is now hospitalized after suffering spinal injury after a car accident...long term, in a hospital that specializes in eastern alternative medicine. Lots of acupuncture after initial surgery. Maybe we can put him on our healing list as well.

I received this message from him, about meeting the young mother of a four-year old Russian girl and her rare abdominal cancer. Was wondering if we could focus on this child for a while.
After genevieve's post I felt encouraged to share h story here.

Here is David's message:

It is rare to see another non-Korean patient at this hospital, so when I do, it is natural to say 'Hello.' Yesterday, I met a 27-year-old Russian lady, here with her 4-year old daughter. When the daughter was two, she was diagnosed with an incredibly rare, invariably fatal, little understood abdominal cancer. The lady, a single mother, with a lowly-paid job in a railway station near Vladivostock set out to save her daughter's life. There was no possibility of any treatment near Vladivostock so she used the internet to explore what might be done elsewhere.
This eventually brought her to Seoul where she lives in the hospital with her daughter (Korean hospitals always provide for relatives to stay around the clock – there are no “visiting hours.” )
The cost of treatment is very high, and way beyond her own means. Working on this problem, she discovered crowd funding. She set up a page on a Russian crowdfunding site and later on an English one, and so far, has raised over US$35,000. She publishes a detailed account of where the money goes online and gives donors a running account of treatment and progress, with lots of pictures.
So far, the child has had major surgery and 20 session of radiology followed by extensive chemotherapy. The kid has a 24/7 antibiotic drip and wears a face mask but otherwise plays as happily as any healthy 4-year-old might. Even so, the statistics are grim - with all the treatment the child has a 50% chance of living more than 5 years from the time of first diagnosis. The lady is driven by her overwhelming love for her daughter and faith in God who she believes will help them both find a way through the incredibly difficult journey that still lies ahead.
She speaks very little English and no Korean but this has in no way proved a handicap for what she is trying to do. Indeed, one of the Korean TV stations made a documentary about her. In it, she is as poised and confident as any seasoned TV personality! The encounter made me reflect how paltry my own problems are in comparison and how the strength of the human spirit can soar above the most difficult of challenges.

[Stephanie]

Healing blessings for such a courageous, beautiful little girl,
and for kindly, compassionate David.

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[TargeT]

I'm taking it as a sign...

no matter what's going on, smile!

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[Flash]

If i did not "know" that the moon is cold, i would say here are the explanation of lights seen in its craters.

My best wishes to that mom and her daughter. Don't i understand the mom and her relentless total love.



I'm taking it as a sign...

no matter what's going on, smile!

e8PuMOsdwm0

[Carmody]

Gotta love Hillbilly Finns

3JFb_aOn6rc

Then switch gears a bit... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ri7TcukAJ8)

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13709916_1564336233873461_63448355171050407_n.jpg?oh=29a3882b22bb90b4c7120ae2cd7e230e&oe=58301375
Kirachka and her mother Anastasia.

[petra]

I'm taking it as a sign...

no matter what's going on, smile!


Me too, thanks for the post! Hello again foolish happy face! lol

[ulli]

Gotta love Hillbilly Finns

3JFb_aOn6rc

Then switch gears a bit... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ri7TcukAJ8)

Loved that song.
Right after listening I clicked on this:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13669778_10210844528973755_3006844840827000870_n.jpg?oh=44ee6e9c89b5b40d62f045d22e5d31e8&oe=58234057

[Guest]

Healing Prayers to David and to young mother and her daughter. Hugs and Love.

Sitting on a river bank watching Prairie Dogs gather Mesquite tree seed podlings.
Will post pics when I'm back at my computer.

Made an offer on a house with a bit of property. Kind of scary. Say a prayer.


Love

Nora

[ulli]

Healing Prayers to David and to young mother and her daughter. Hugs and Love.

Sitting on a river bank watching Prairie Dogs gather Mesquite tree seed podlings.
Will post pics when I'm back at my computer.

Made an offer on a house with a bit of property. Kind of scary. Say a prayer.


Love

Nora

How exciting Nora. House PLUS land. You go, girl!!!
All the best to you. Lets hope you get it.

On another note...yesterday it occured to me that there were parallels to be drawn, between Bill Ryan, (Bernie), Kerry Cassidy (Hillary) and Simon Parkes (Donald Trump).
And today I came across this https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13719598_1325203007508256_4397885590036013047_o.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Please add to the healing list:

Prayers for Paul’s wife and two young sons. This is the third person from this generation to commit suicide.


Dear Paul, Godspeed on your journey.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Angels/falcon_angel.GIF

:heart:

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Gotta love Hillbilly Finns

3JFb_aOn6rc

Then switch gears a bit... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ri7TcukAJ8)

Loved that song.
Right after listening I clicked on this:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13669778_10210844528973755_3006844840827000870_n.jpg?oh=44ee6e9c89b5b40d62f045d22e5d31e8&oe=58234057

That reminds me of Plantman. From my childhood.....

Nora, good luck on the property!

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[Jean-Marie]

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie

[Sierra]

Jean-Marie, I'll be there with you in spirit, iPhone and skype, clutched in my hand. And the week after, and the week after, and...

:heart: :heart: :heart:

Wrapping the village around Jean-Marie, David, young mother and daughter, Paul's wife, and two sons, Genevieve's friend...

[Sierra]

Nora,

Home and land, peace and refuge, to you.
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[ulli]

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie
You have been in my thoughts, jean-marie, lots of loving thoughts, sad thoughts, trying-to-rationalize thoughts.
For the time being I have no better words that might console you...
Only that I'm certain that he is happier now.
Flying is awesome.

[RunningDeer]

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie

Jean-Marie, I'll be there. I'm there.

Love,
Paula

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Love/with-in-spirit2_zpsprin4xg0.JPG

[Baby Steps]

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie

All my love to you and family
H

[Sierra]

Hervé posted this elsewhere. It gives me hope.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90590-Transition-into-Trump&p=1086816&viewfull=1#post1086816

Not one death, and I especially like the tied nude to the trees solution, lol.

[Foxie Loxie]

You bet, Jean-Marie! Many of us who have been thru' the same will truly "be with you" on Sat.! If I've learned one thing, the Avalonians are a very caring group.
Love & Hugs! :bearhug:

[onawah]

So sorry to hear of your loss, Jean-Marie.
I came late to the conversation here, but I hope I can add to the love and support coming to you from Avalon now.
I'm sure Kyle isn't as far away now as it may seem...
http://everydaypowerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rumi-quotes-11.jpg

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie

[Agape]

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie

That's a terrible news. What has happened to him Jean-Marie ?

Is there anything I'm not getting right . Young people don't 'just die' out of sudden ..
please come to share when you can .
I know you have to be feeling lost and confused for a while and out of means to fix it .

I know it's not my mind but my heart saying , crying each time ''I don't understand''.


I'm terribly sorry . Want to give you hug


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll256/PaldenLhamo/02circles_of_awakening.jpg

[Flash]

Much much love to you in particular Jean-Marie, the forever giver, to have enough strenght for yourself this time. And much love to your family as well.

All my compassion is with you

[Yetti]

FOR YOU ; https://youtu.be/dsxtImDVMig

[RunningDeer]

FOR YOU ; https://youtu.be/dsxtImDVMig
:heart:

Love Is All You Need - Beatles
dsxtImDVMig

[Michelle Marie]

I'm sending Rays of healing love to you, Jean-Marie :heart: that is a very deep thing to cope with.

Be surrounded by healing and uplifting Angels who carry you through this time on clouds of love.

Love to Kyle's soul who is still loving you.

I feel deeply for you.
Blessings,
Michelle Marie

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Villagers

I have been away at summer camp. My son Kyle passed away on 7/24/2016 at 7:36 pm. It has taken me until today to come back to the forum and be able to share with all of you. This is just so hard. Services are being held this upcoming Saturday morning. I don't know how I am going to get through this. If any of you can, please send loving energies for me on Saturday. I need them.

-jean-marie

I am very sorry to hear about your pain and loss, Jean-Marry, I am sending you rays of love straight to your heart that do not know what to do with the overflow. It will find it's quiet with the understanding that all that have loved and lived is infinite, and your son is with you and not too far away. We find it hard to be consoled by this in such moments but the passing of the body is not an end to nothing and souls are continuing with their meeting together in different capacity, you are loved and held by us, so greatful for your friendship here and taking care of us on the forum and so I will be with you as well on saturday, as you are not alone. Much love and blessings to you ~ Limor

[RunningDeer]

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dogs_Kids/small-babies-children-big-dogs-36__880_zps587e8422.JPG
:heart:

[Stephanie]

....................



.............. :heart::heart:
............ :heart: .. :heart:
....:heart: Jean-Marie-Kyle. :heart:

.......... . . :heart::heart:
................ :heart:



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[RunningDeer]

black and white quotes ♡


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Quotes/worry_zpstytwvpag.JPG


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Quotes/other-filters_zpscw3jnkjw.JPG



http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Quotes/other-opinions_zpsassglapm.JPG



http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Quotes/none-of-my-business_zpseavdb1ub.JPG




http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Quotes/lost-love-cried_zpszr1h6y47.JPG

[ulli]

Not many people in the Here and Now Wave pool,
https://m.imgur.com/N9BUOpB

[Orph]

Not many people in the Here and Now Wave pool,
https://m.imgur.com/N9BUOpBAnd not one person taking a selfie! :sarcastic:

[Foxie Loxie]

Thinking of Jean-Marie today sending positive vibes with Love! :heart:

[Sueanne47]

Love & Hugs from me also :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Sue

[ulli]

Love & Hugs from me also :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Sue

I bet she is getting these vibes.
But I'm also sure that only an unmistakable sign from Kyle will lift that pain a little.
Whenever I read posts on Avalon with the statement that there are no absolutes, I feel like responding they should ask someone who recently lost a close relative.
The shock to one's system is unlike any other.

[RunningDeer]

:wave:

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/fishin_zpslevaacbe.JPG

[ulli]

atFHCkhtQnM
Listening to this tango dub while contemplating whether to post on the spiritual deveopment thread, or not.

[avid]

Blocked for copyright in Uk 🙁

[ulli]

Blocked for copyright in Uk 🙁

Try this one: Gotan Project Live. La Revancha del Tango

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[Ernie Nemeth]

My daughter had her baby last night at 6:01. Her birthday falls on my mother's birthday. She is over joyed. I get to see my granddaughter this evening. Can hardly wait.

Happy birthday, Charlotte, or Isabella or whatever you decide to call yourself. I love you!

[ulli]

My daughter had her baby last night at 6:01. Her birthday falls on my mother's birthday. She is over joyed. I get to see my granddaughter this evening. Can hardly wait.

Happy birthday, Charlotte, or Isabella or whatever you decide to call yourself. I love you!

So happy for you and your family, Ernie. May she have a blessed life.

[Flash]

My daughter had her baby last night at 6:01. Her birthday falls on my mother's birthday. She is over joyed. I get to see my granddaughter this evening. Can hardly wait.

Happy birthday, Charlotte, or Isabella or whatever you decide to call yourself. I love you!

congratulation Ernie, and most welcome to the little one in this world she has chosen to do good deeds

[Stephanie]

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Congratulations dear mother, Ernie Nemeth and family....
....how absolutely wonderful!


. :heart::angel::heart:

Special baby blessings,
wrapped in loving protection
for your beautiful, bundle of joy.

. :heart::angel::heart:

[ulli]

More catwomen showing up....

https://scontent.fsjo1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13886946_10154437955279586_1132552774697542109_n.jpg?oh=a2129a3026a8d376d78505f8b3328707&oe=584E6CE8

And this is a still from the 1983 Tsarkovsky movie Nostalghia
http://cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com/images/268528/268528_full.jpg

[Flash]

Your pic above Ulli makes me think of the present Montreal sky. Yesterday and this morning were beautifully sunny. Then, around 10 AM, a friend phoned me telling me to look at the sky. It was filled from chemtrailling, more than I had ever seen - same for her and she lives at one hour drive from me. Now, it is a foggy sunny, not as much sun.

I have noticed more sun this summer than usual here, but also much more chemtrails.

On a personal basis, I have had water damage in my house due to a faulty air conditionner/deshumidifyer. A few gallons of water went through my first floor into the basement ceiling (finished basement, with a soundproofed ceiling). The insurers are here, cutting the basement ceiling, putting dust protection drapes all over, and having huge very noisy macine pushing hot hair in the basement ceiling and on the first level floor. In this hot summer day.... one of those stupid stuff.

The good news about it is that they will have to sand and revarnish all my upstair floor (a large surface) apart from the kitchen, which I wanted to be done for years, with insurance coverage.

[RunningDeer]

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/Mind-Your-Own-Energy-_zpslqpe3s8n.JPG

Mind Your Own Energy!

by: Lynn Williams [article here (http://wakeup-world.com/2016/08/10/mind-your-own-energy/)]




"There are so many distractions coming at us at lightening speed through technology, media and people in our lives, that we can expend enormous amounts of energy trying to pay attention to it all, take it in and process it. And often, the things we focus on are of no value to us, do not enhance our lives and simply drain us."

"When we make better choices in how we spend our energy (e.g. on those things that replenish us) we find we stabilize our energy flow/loss, are generally happier, more fulfilled and need less sleep to replenish our lost energy. We also no longer waste our precious energy on things that merely distract us, but do nothing to add value to our lives. Now more than ever, with so much stimuli bombarding us, it behooves us to take stock of where we expend ourselves in order to remain balanced and healthy in body, mind and spirit."

[TargeT]

Humans are amazing...

http://i.imgur.com/lIcKou6.gifv

[ulli]

My brother-inlaw's young beige horse is dead.
Died today, while the training was going on. It crashed its head against a tree, in a wild fit.
We are all in shock here.
The trainer was in love with that horse and wanted to buy it.
At first I thought it was the trainer's ignorance and carelessness, but apparently it was one of those weird fluke things.

[RunningDeer]

My brother-inlaw's young beige horse is dead.
Died today, while the training was going on. It crashed its head against a tree, in a wild fit.
We are all in shock here.
The trainer was in love with that horse and wanted to buy it.
At first I thought it was the trainer's ignorance and carelessness, but apparently it was one of those weird fluke things.

Oh, that's sad. I wonder if the horse got spooked by high frequency interference? Perhaps, your brother-in-law's life was spared because of how it played out.

Happy trails, Young One.:wave:


Happy Trails to You by Roy Rogers and Dale Evans
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[TargeT]

Humans are amazing...

http://i.imgur.com/lIcKou6.gifv

aaaaannnndddd hilarious... hahaha

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[RunningDeer]

Sorry, please delete.

[RunningDeer]

Working through stuff... Will check thread in silent mode.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/fishin_zpslevaacbe.JPG

[ulli]

Michael Lutin was right. This has been my week. (Don't go near ice cream when you have a temporary crown in your mouth)
(Don't ever criticize the ignorance of local "horse trainers" either).

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13887117_10153910660517449_7319716838361697809_n.jpg?oh=8a164686a0cffe9e70f6ec993742abb1&oe=581A32B7

[3(C)+me]

The Pele Report:

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Love the hat.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Is there someone here who does birth charts. My daughter has asked me to get her a chart for her daughter, born August 8, 2016, 6:01 pm. Toronto , Ontario?

I would be willing to negotiate a fee, as nothing is free and I respect that.

[ulli]

I'm not surprised. Starting to take it for granted now, that as soon as someone comes here with a request for healing there will be good news within a couple of weeks.
Here is the latest from the Korean hospital where a little Russian girl and her brave mum have been for the last 3 1/2 months, fighting a rare cancer.
Google translation from the Russian:

13.08. Uuuuurrrrraaaaaa!!!!! We were being discharged!!!! Our dear, every day we get busy in just crazy about the hospital and with papers so it wasn't possible to unsubscribe. Yesterday, we finally left the hospital walls-what was the condition of the kiryushki, when for 3,5 months, she was the first time without her ivs!!!! Running around, jumping up and down, fun, with all said good-bye, photographed-anyway was just a happy kid!!! Horrible It was hard to say goodbye, I sometimes, once again, I am convinced that it's hard constantly to keep their feelings, emotions, constantly stick from recent forces, in order not to be upset and don't show everyone your weakness. Farewell to our professor was crazy moving moment-they're with Kiera exchanged gifts-Kiryusha gave her flowers and candy, and our doctor-Zakolochki for her hair, so that when we have long hair we did hair and remembered her!!!! Friends, we have behind us The amount of time spent in this clinic, in this country!!! happened very many events-but I want to go only with the best memories and I don't think there was ever a hard, hard, sometimes took the nerves, I wanted to end it all soon ! Now we have not come to our cherished goal, which is of course upset us, but we have come such a long way, been through a lot of difficulties, but we have so many friends with us right now, there are people who walked with us for the rest of this road together, Supported, experienced and believed that we can do this and we will win!!! Thank you family, this is crazy happy to be here-here at home and take a break from the hospital environment!!! Thank you for your presence in our lives, thank you, that when something gave US a chance to go through all this!!! Special thanks to our medical staff members, our nurses, our doctor who, throughout this time, were always close, did everything they could treat us with special care, attention and kiryushka for nor has become a dear and beloved ...... They patiently endured all of our crazy, screaming, discontent-but always remained human beings and for that, they just human thank you!!! Thank you to our international division of our interpreters and indeed they are the ones who gave us the opportunity is here in the beautiful clinic, with beautiful and awesome people! And with a warm and berezhnym attitude towards us!!! Thank you my dear, thank you all for what you have in our lives and God forbid our next step will lead us to victory!!!! In the meantime, today we'll be home already and even for a little while forget about Everything that we've been through!!! Kiryushka already all getting ready for the beach season and really wants to see the sea and some legs on the sand!!!! Very believe and hope that we have is bound to be an opportunity to do so!!!!

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13909005_1573978636242554_8159834922365867449_o.jpg

[eaglespirit]

Love to You All...Congrats Ernie....Condolences Ulli, so sorry!

Been a while, down with wounded knee...walking again now : )

Too many new chapters to share....live life storyline gone vortexy!!!

We have crossed the rainbow bridge right here on Mother Earth...more and more are crossing over with full open hearts daily now!!!

https://roseramblesdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/solor-system.jpeg?w=300&h=163

[Antihero]

I've been spending my day having discussions with people in my neighbourhood. I've done a bit of boxing practice and meditation. Currently I'm indulging myself with ciggarettes and energy drinks as I do most days, since it keeps my energy down and my focus away. I feel a spiral of heat through my body into my crown. A gentle heat which I should let grow. I'm listening to this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tpYeKgu0xU&list=PLyIFQr1wryPKpwfvtYkwPRxM855x30loX My surroundings are dark and the screen is my lightsource.

I'm contemplating going into the woods for some nightly hiking. At the very least I will walk my neighbourhood and do some stargazing.

Peace.

[ulli]

http://www.dezeen.com/2016/06/30/bjork-3d-printed-rottlace-mask-musculoskeletal-system-neri-oxman-stratasys/

Icelandic singer Bjork now has a 3D printed mask, based on her musculoskeletal system.
Maybe it's her way of hiding the fact that none of us are getting any younger.
https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2016/06/BjorkDigital_Tokyo_NeriOxman_Photocred_Santiago_felipe_dezeen_936_6-1.jpg

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13906862_320990874914950_426084916971373828_n.jpg?oh=463bd537864fa9040c1e579055127d44&oe=584B9E29

[Carmody]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13906862_320990874914950_426084916971373828_n.jpg?oh=463bd537864fa9040c1e579055127d44&oe=584B9E29


That would make a great T-shirt.

[ulli]

Yesterday was Mother's Day here in Costa Rica. Big family gathering.
Had some good chats with two sisters-in-law, about the US election.
One is married to an American, and only watches FoxNews, and is pro Trump.
The other is married to one of my husband's brothers who is also a doctor, and she watches CNN in Spanish, and is pro Hillary.
And me in the middle, with my "man behind the curtain" theory.

[transiten]

I've been in "the middle" also between two of my best friends of whom one doesn't believe in anything outside politics and states she has no "talent" to believe in "otherwordly" subjects and the other believes too much to the point of almost being a fundamentalist in these...and me in the middle avoiding to discuss any of these matters at the moment we met. The first atheist friend stated afterwords she doesn't want to see my other friend who is oversensitive to wifi and smartphones....:(

[Carmody]

gettin' so south we standin' in the water.

cp4JvSv50Qg

769HwjC8HNY

[dan33]

"And what is a tale but a box that can contain anything? ". J J Abrams.

http://www.yorokobu.es/wp-content/uploads/tanen-box-jpg-7948301.jpg


YoDh_gHDvkk

[ulli]

http://www.new-synapse.com/aps/wordpress/?p=1911

Article I found on Astrid's FB page, about boundaries. I could relate, somehow.

"This essay discusses how childhood and relational trauma can violate boundaries and sense of self, and how restoring the fundamental sense of boundaries and self – personal rights, identity, voice, space – can bring about more understanding and clarity around what it means to implement self-care in life."

http://www.new-synapse.com/aps/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/boundaries5a.jpg

[ulli]

Square dogs at the Tokyo dog show.

http://www.mtv.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/image-w-760-scale/public/mtv_au/galleries/large/2015/06/02/dogshow3.jpg?itok=WnLDrccr

http://www.mtv.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/image-w-760-scale/public/mtv_au/galleries/large/2015/06/02/dogshow2.jpg?itok=sGC6876i

[ulli]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3744426/A-selfish-parent-gave-darling-son-week-son-PR-guru-Lynne-Franks-inspired-AbFab-said-baby-boomers-like-terrible-mums-s-incendiary-response.html

This is interesting, especially since I knew Lynn well, as she was my PR when I was still in London.
We were friends and visited each other in our homes. I'm still fond of her and full of admiration for how she managed her life.
I also knew little Josh, and my decision to leave my London-based business and raise my son elsewhere, as a non-working mum, was partly to do with what I observed there, in their family unit.
Lynn was unbelievably busy, and I thought that Josh was perhaps not getting the attention I thought he needed.

However, did my decision to become a full-time mum make any difference? Not in the least.
My son has accused me and my whole generation of those same things Joshua accused his mother of.
Accusing babyboomers of being lousy parents has become a fashion, I fear.

We could equally accuse our own parents of the same, of neglecting us, and of working too hard, but they lived through the terror of WW2, and accusing them of failing us would be unfair, considering their plight.

Anyway, when I told my son that I had quit my company for him, and that it was quite a sacrifice he didnt want to hear that either.
So there is this incredible generation gap between us boomers and the ungrateful brats we raised, brats who resent to this days that we left them a world in a mess.
I would love to get a chance to explain that today's messed-up world was not the outcome of us Hippies, but more of the opposite minds, the bigots, the neocons and the bureaucrats, who feared liberals and the freedoms the rest of us strove for.

[Carmody]

Square dogs at the Tokyo dog show.

http://www.mtv.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/image-w-760-scale/public/mtv_au/galleries/large/2015/06/02/dogshow3.jpg?itok=WnLDrccr

http://www.mtv.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/image-w-760-scale/public/mtv_au/galleries/large/2015/06/02/dogshow2.jpg?itok=sGC6876i

Minecraft poodle

http://i.imgur.com/YWKApU8.png

[eaglespirit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3744426/A-selfish-parent-gave-darling-son-week-son-PR-guru-Lynne-Franks-inspired-AbFab-said-baby-boomers-like-terrible-mums-s-incendiary-response.html

This is interesting, especially since I knew Lynn well, as she was my PR when I was still in London.
We were friends and visited each other in our homes. I'm still fond of her and full of admiration for how she managed her life.
I also knew little Josh, and my decision to leave my London-based business and raise my son elsewhere, as a non-working mum, was partly to do with what I observed there, in their family unit.
Lynn was unbelievably busy, and I thought that Josh was perhaps not getting the attention I thought he needed.

However, did my decision to become a full-time mum make any difference? Not in the least.
My son has accused me and my whole generation of those same things Joshua accused his mother of.
Accusing babyboomers of being lousy parents has become a fashion, I fear.

We could equally accuse our own parents of the same, of neglecting us, and of working too hard, but they lived through the terror of WW2, and accusing them of failing us would be unfair, considering their plight.

Anyway, when I told my son that I had quit my company for him, and that it was quite a sacrifice he didnt want to hear that either.
So there is this incredible generation gap between us boomers and the ungrateful brats we raised, brats who resent to this days that we left them a world in a mess.
I would love to get a chance to explain that today's messed-up world was not the outcome of us Hippies, but more of the opposite minds, the bigots, the neocons and the bureaucrats, who feared liberals and the freedoms the rest of us strove for.

Thank You for sharing here, Ulli....glad I checked in.

I am hoping my talks with the younger folks will help bring about some light to this conundrum.
Fortunately, in the past....I have experienced some very good vibes from them....
I do wish the continuance of that as I continue my promptings to open to them regularly.

[Flash]

I think that we raised some brats, no doubts about it.

I also think at times that I was a brat myself - having had a working mom when none existed (she is the generation prior to Baby Boomers), with all the difficulties she encounterd, I realised that I could not ask her to understand whatever I had the luxury to learn because I was either less busy or more schooled and read, having more access to it all (even before the internet).

I do think that our mis ease, when it is not disease, is transgenerational and that we have to work on it thinking transgeneration, no generation being more guilty than the subsequent one.

And today, the working mom home tasks is till much more on her shoulders than on the dad's. All the statistics of time spent with chldren for each parents shows it, mom have much more time with their children. However, the problem is that moms spend much time for thing that are related to eveyday living obligations (changing diapers, preparing dinner, tidying up, making the homework schedules, making the sport schedule and coordinating, all the work kid do not like to obey to, which dad usually do not do).

Add to this that women still earn 30% less on average than men (which cumulate to more than a million over a lifetime) and still have most of the time the children responsibilities/charge when divorcing, which means that moms are still the underdog of society. Double work, much less pay, and much less recognition, even from their own offspring. How much more unfair can it be?

How can our dearest ones dare to crucify us!!!???



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3744426/A-selfish-parent-gave-darling-son-week-son-PR-guru-Lynne-Franks-inspired-AbFab-said-baby-boomers-like-terrible-mums-s-incendiary-response.html

This is interesting, especially since I knew Lynn well, as she was my PR when I was still in London.
We were friends and visited each other in our homes. I'm still fond of her and full of admiration for how she managed her life.
I also knew little Josh, and my decision to leave my London-based business and raise my son elsewhere, as a non-working mum, was partly to do with what I observed there, in their family unit.
Lynn was unbelievably busy, and I thought that Josh was perhaps not getting the attention I thought he needed.

However, did my decision to become a full-time mum make any difference? Not in the least.
My son has accused me and my whole generation of those same things Joshua accused his mother of.
Accusing babyboomers of being lousy parents has become a fashion, I fear.

We could equally accuse our own parents of the same, of neglecting us, and of working too hard, but they lived through the terror of WW2, and accusing them of failing us would be unfair, considering their plight.

Anyway, when I told my son that I had quit my company for him, and that it was quite a sacrifice he didnt want to hear that either.
So there is this incredible generation gap between us boomers and the ungrateful brats we raised, brats who resent to this days that we left them a world in a mess.
I would love to get a chance to explain that today's messed-up world was not the outcome of us Hippies, but more of the opposite minds, the bigots, the neocons and the bureaucrats, who feared liberals and the freedoms the rest of us strove for.

[Flash]

Surprisingly, from my own observations, it seems that it is the X generation that is disgruntled and blames everything on boomers. The younger generation does not have this attitude, not against the X, nor against the Boomers. In fact, they take what they have and think everyone else is out of their world, so the rest just can't follow them and they will love us nevertheless with a kind of pity lollllllllllllllllll. this attitude always makes me laugh.

then they are all surprised when I know some of the same as them.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3744426/A-selfish-parent-gave-darling-son-week-son-PR-guru-Lynne-Franks-inspired-AbFab-said-baby-boomers-like-terrible-mums-s-incendiary-response.html

This is interesting, especially since I knew Lynn well, as she was my PR when I was still in London.
We were friends and visited each other in our homes. I'm still fond of her and full of admiration for how she managed her life.
I also knew little Josh, and my decision to leave my London-based business and raise my son elsewhere, as a non-working mum, was partly to do with what I observed there, in their family unit.
Lynn was unbelievably busy, and I thought that Josh was perhaps not getting the attention I thought he needed.

However, did my decision to become a full-time mum make any difference? Not in the least.
My son has accused me and my whole generation of those same things Joshua accused his mother of.
Accusing babyboomers of being lousy parents has become a fashion, I fear.

We could equally accuse our own parents of the same, of neglecting us, and of working too hard, but they lived through the terror of WW2, and accusing them of failing us would be unfair, considering their plight.

Anyway, when I told my son that I had quit my company for him, and that it was quite a sacrifice he didnt want to hear that either.
So there is this incredible generation gap between us boomers and the ungrateful brats we raised, brats who resent to this days that we left them a world in a mess.
I would love to get a chance to explain that today's messed-up world was not the outcome of us Hippies, but more of the opposite minds, the bigots, the neocons and the bureaucrats, who feared liberals and the freedoms the rest of us strove for.

Thank You for sharing here, Ulli....glad I checked in.

I am hoping my talks with the younger folks will help bring about some light to this conundrum.
Fortunately, in the past....I have experienced some very good vibes from them....
I do wish the continuance of that as I continue my promptings to open to them regularly.

[Foxie Loxie]

It does seem to come back to how one's parents were raised as to how they raised us & how that translates into how we have raised OUR children! Sometimes it appears to be a vicious circle unless one is taught to use one's own mind during formative years.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I raised my child by exposing her to all the esoterica I peruse. I taught her how things work. I taught her who to trust (herself, mostly). I taught her how to be a discerning high-level human.
I did the same for all my serious relationships, too. All my loves have thanked me for my lessons, including my daughter. So have a handful of friends, whom I patiently first untaught then retaught them the correct version of many things - before internet and U-tube.

I am now in the process of training another apprentice. It is his first job and I am his first journeyman trainer. He is so lucky he can't even understand - but his father does. His father told him that this training would be priceless, since he is learning from a veteran of almost forty years in the trade. I am a really good teacher. And this young guy has the aptitude and attitude to be trained. He will go far.

Point being that generational trends can be busted by some very simple techniques by astute and knowledgeable individuals on a one-to-one basis. Groups won't work because in groups, individuals tend towards the lowest common denominator, the least aware human present. And, in groups the dynamic is often not learning but dating that takes to the fore. Makes for messy interactions and lots of misunderstandings.

In any case, patience is the key in any learning situation because, as the old adage states: "There are no bad learners, only bad teachers." If they haven't understood, they haven't yet been taught properly. These are the reasons that our own schooling system is so horrendous. The emphasis is on the students' performance not on the teachers'. If a student has "been left behind" it is the curriculum that is to blame. My curriculum is always fun and always educational and entertaining. I encourage thinking and deduction, and drawing conclusions based on experience.

I will often ask, "so what did you learn from installing that light, box, switch, plug, whatever." And they better have a good answer or we'll go over and over it until they do. Technique is everything, procedure is learned through experience. No point in me telling you all the secrets and tricks. Better if you first do it wrong to appreciate why to do it another, better way.

If there were more teachers who understood how to teach, this world would not be in the shape it is today. I do not blame the young, and I do not blame the old.

Those that do are naïve.

[Violet]

:sun: Hola Village,

Hope you're enjoying the summer holidays.

Leaving on an interesting voyage of some sorts. Not quite sure when I'll be back.

Lots of love & Light to you all.

Oh, and music...of course. Lots of it. This is me on my new Stagg...

yIdKbSeAueY

Just joking (although I did get a new Stagg):


Violet

[PurpleLama]

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/when-will-idiots-other-end-political-spectrum-wake-53482

[PathWalker]

I love this funny video
Lots of video editing stunts, make me rethink the matrix and the governing rules (called physics)
BiJuRsYEneU

[araucaria]

One of the more important issues here is stability of the parental relationship and the broader family situation. The smaller and frailer the family unit, the less knocks one can take; and conversely, generational stability produces intergenerational stability. The baby boomers were the first to see both contraception and divorce rates really take off. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for children to have not just two homes but two conflicting positions to reconcile when their parents split. It amazes me that often enough things work out not too badly.

I just got some corroboration from an unlikely quarter: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/17/shane-duffy-blackburn-cardiff-qpr-barnsley-championship A footballer scores two own-goals in twenty minutes (3 in a week) and is red-carded; why? Because the guy is up for possible transfer: “agents had turned the player’s head... somebody in one ear telling you one thing, someone else in the other ear telling you another. They have their heads turned and you’ve got to manage that in the modern game”.

I would expect more such meltdowns, albeit not necessarily so catastrophic, among children with divided loyalties. Of course we do find plenty of catastrophic meltdowns, only the effects are not usually ascribed to causes of this kind.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

I raised my child by exposing her to all the esoterica I peruse. I taught her how things work. I taught her who to trust (herself, mostly). I taught her how to be a discerning high-level human.
I did the same for all my serious relationships, too. All my loves have thanked me for my lessons, including my daughter. So have a handful of friends, whom I patiently first untaught then retaught them the correct version of many things - before internet and U-tube.

I am now in the process of training another apprentice. It is his first job and I am his first journeyman trainer. He is so lucky he can't even understand - but his father does. His father told him that this training would be priceless, since he is learning from a veteran of almost forty years in the trade. I am a really good teacher. And this young guy has the aptitude and attitude to be trained. He will go far.

Point being that generational trends can be busted by some very simple techniques by astute and knowledgeable individuals on a one-to-one basis. Groups won't work because in groups, individuals tend towards the lowest common denominator, the least aware human present. And, in groups the dynamic is often not learning but dating that takes to the fore. Makes for messy interactions and lots of misunderstandings.

In any case, patience is the key in any learning situation because, as the old adage states: "There are no bad learners, only bad teachers." If they haven't understood, they haven't yet been taught properly. These are the reasons that our own schooling system is so horrendous. The emphasis is on the students' performance not on the teachers'. If a student has "been left behind" it is the curriculum that is to blame. My curriculum is always fun and always educational and entertaining. I encourage thinking and deduction, and drawing conclusions based on experience.

I will often ask, "so what did you learn from installing that light, box, switch, plug, whatever." And they better have a good answer or we'll go over and over it until they do. Technique is everything, procedure is learned through experience. No point in me telling you all the secrets and tricks. Better if you first do it wrong to appreciate why to do it another, better way.

If there were more teachers who understood how to teach, this world would not be in the shape it is today. I do not blame the young, and I do not blame the old.

Those that do are naïve.

Very true Ernie, you can't blame the youth...

M3pi-6fInng

[RunningDeer]

The last storm blew out my internet 9+ days ago. I only learned yesterday of the severity to the area when I went to purchase a new modem at the local store. Their shelves were cleaned out.

My service provider said a replacement modem would arrive in 2-3 business days. That was 9 days ago. Grrrr. So, I’m at my brother’s home downloading a boat load of videos, checking email and all that rot.

See you on the flip side… :wave:

[ulli]

The last storm blew out my internet 9+ days ago. I only learned yesterday of the severity to the area when I went to purchase a new modem at the local store. Their shelves were cleaned out.

My service provider said a replacement modem would arrive in 2-3 business days. That was 9 days ago. Grrrr. So, I’m at my brother’s home downloading a boat load of videos, checking email and all that rot.

See you on the flip side… :wave:

My goodness, Paula. And there I was, thinking you had gone fishing to some heavenly lake.
Sorry to hear.

We are going to have to include web servers and modems and computers in our healing and protection prayers.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

This is something interesting I just came across, Rapid water disinfection using vertically aligned MoS2 nanofilms and visible light.

http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2016.138.html

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Also, the NASA Asteroid Redirect Mission is moving forward.

http://www.space.com/33761-nasa-asteroid-redirect-mission-design-milestone.html

[TargeT]

This is something interesting I just came across, Rapid water disinfection using vertically aligned MoS2 nanofilms and visible light.

http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2016.138.html

except for a couple of things:

1) the romans knew how to manage water, simply by observing nature. (http://www.romanaqueducts.info/webteksten/waterinantiquity.htm) Why are we re-inventing the wheel?

2) every single time I read the word "nano" connected to ANY topic, I see it as a synonym for "not available to you or me"; since neither once of us can reliably produce nano materials in any controlled fashion (for now..).


So, as with all technology (in your reality and mine) until it is readily available to us; it is nearly irrelevant, except as a POSSIBLE indicator of future trends.

(A hard lesson I have recently had re-enforced)

so.. grounding rod?

[ulli]

This is something interesting I just came across, Rapid water disinfection using vertically aligned MoS2 nanofilms and visible light.

http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2016.138.html

Came across this article moments after reading yours.
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-tiny-device-can-clean-your-drinking-water-in-minutes.
Synchronicities like this mean that we are onto something.....

[ulli]

In the late nineties, when I was writing the weekly horoscope column for the Tico Times (newpaper for ex-pats living in Costa Rica) Michael Lutin was my greatest inspiration.
Still my favorite astrologer to this day.
Here is his current weekly:
http://www.michaellutin.com/nextweekreview.html
(To get the specifics for your sign you need to click on the link.)


"Mars Saturn in Sadge
in the sign of the mind
is the challenge
to find sanity in madness,
courage in fear,
patience in restlessness,
diligence in avoidance,
truth in lies,
temperance panic,
wisdom in ignorance.

The mind is everything,
and no one can say
what's right for anyone else.

Apart from the laws
of one's land, culture and religion,
ultimately it is your own mind
That chooses one path or another.
The deeper mind
is constantly seeking
to reveal your truth
if you're not scared to listen.
Never fear or doubt your path.

Anyone can wake up at any moment."

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14063727_1809598059321271_1204926666079672018_n.jpg?oh=4c5ffb6dca8576083b43a4b19c036fa0&oe=584DF7A1

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14063806_1221050517954060_8971092657169936376_n.jpg?oh=9f81c77094ce2f2f54b8412f59588ad7&oe=584DCF90

I still have that wish that a group of Villagers from this thread could get together for a feast in a place like this.

[Fanna]

I still have that wish that a group of Villagers from this thread could get together for a feast in a place like this.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Flag_of_Ecuador.svg/800px-Flag_of_Ecuador.svg.png

[PathWalker]

I just watched this great video, I wish to share.
How functional grafity art is humours and delivers a good message.
ox5CKhITQB0

[Curt]

Fanna, is the bird on that flag an eagle, or is it a vulture?

Update: Whoops, my mistake. I see it was Fanna who posted the flag, not Ulli as I had originally written.

[ulli]

Fanna, is the bird on that flag an eagle, or is it a vulture?

Update: Whoops, my mistake. I see it was Fanna who posted the flag, not Ulli as I had originally written.

The bird is the Andean Condor, on the flag of Ecuador.

[meeradas]

if i don't start postin' again, DNA or Omni's soon gonna kick me off the first member page (if sorted by 'posts')...

my capacity to communicate is eaten up almost completely by my 'profession';

unfortunately, this includes friends and kin (btw, Sstarss, i've got your messages!)...

no good.

GBN3BtdIr0Y


PS:
Hey, this is the first time i am alone on this thread - one member, zero guests. Curious.

[ulli]

O lookie, the old web bots are back. Just me and 30 "guests".

Anyway, even bots like a bit of advice at times. So take this:

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10399113_10153301677081423_7328416501355768973_n.jpg?oh=900ef3089e8275dcd610afb35ba45bf1&oe=5848C29D

[ulli]

Here is a picture for all us activists to share on social media.
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14100485_1266314643431570_1259003955459798492_n.jpg?oh=7a2f77d72f6b5765e5c35f28765735bf&oe=5841C845

[animovado]

Here's the entire poem for the bots and everyone else:

He who becomes the slave of habit,
who follows the same routes every day,
who never changes pace,
who does not risk and change the color of his clothes,
who does not speak and does not experience,
dies slowly.

He or she who shuns passion,
who prefers black on white,
dotting ones "it’s" rather than a bundle of emotions,
the kind that make your eyes glimmer,
that turn a yawn into a smile,
that make the heart pound in the face of mistakes and feelings,
dies slowly.

He or she who does not turn things topsy-turvy,
who is unhappy at work,
who does not risk certainty for uncertainty,
to thus follow a dream,
those who do not forego sound advice at least once in their lives,
die slowly.

He who does not travel, who does not read,
who does not listen to music,
who does not find grace in himself,
she who does not find grace in herself,
dies slowly.

He who slowly destroys his own self-esteem,
who does not allow himself to be helped,
who spends days on end complaining about his own bad luck,
about the rain that never stops,
dies slowly.

He or she who abandon a project before starting it,
who fail to ask questions on subjects he doesn't know,
he or she who don't reply when they are asked something they do know,
die slowly.

Let's try and avoid death in small doses,
reminding oneself that being alive requires an effort
far greater than the simple fact of breathing.

Only a burning patience will lead
to the attainment of a splendid happiness.


(Pablo Neruda)

[ulli]

In need of comic relief, yet again.

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13962540_10153633171906891_2760878994395706888_n.jpg?oh=c7d8db4f1820b6268f4d9a4d67088da3&oe=583BCEC7

[RunningDeer]

Yeah! Internet. Thirteen days without internet. This morning, I packed up my computer and headed out for an oil changed. My plan was to stop off at the coffee shop that I discovered had WiFi less than 2 miles/3 kilometers away from where I live. Instead, I discovered the station also had WiFi. So, I feverishly uploaded videos, paid bills, etc. figuring another day would come and go before the replacement modem arrived. The manager explained that their cash register, credit card machine, gas pumps and such are still wonky from the storm two weeks ago.

About an hour ago, I happened to look out the window to see the delivery truck backing up and pulling away because one side of the complex was off limits and the other was chock full of cars. I bolted out and ran across the lawn yelling out for him.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/2mo5pow_zps9vhsc4hc.GIFHe had MY modem!

The asphalt was redone several days ago. Which meant everyone’s playing musical car spaces on my side of the complex. And starting tomorrow, it’ll be the same in reverse with workers redoing my side. There’s lots of traffic and people and workers coming and going.

I couldn't help notice that Paula who doesn’t like interruptions to her routines. At the same time, once I accepted the unknown about the internet and the discovery of several alternatives, it became only a pesky inconvenience.

Rant, rant, rant. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/delete2-smiley_zps8ke0evee.GIF


My goodness, Paula. And there I was, thinking you had gone fishing to some heavenly lake.
Sorry to hear.

We are going to have to include web servers and modems and computers in our healing and protection prayers.

It's strange how those fishing' trips end as fast as they come on... I step out when I feel like I'm spreading bad energy.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/fighting0040_zpsr6xff4m1.GIF

[RunningDeer]

I didn’t realize MrsEndallBeall (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1089775&viewfull=1#post1089775) was on the forum. I ran a search and couldn’t find any posts or message board for her.

So Mrs. EB, if you catch this post, I’ve been reading your ”Advanced Teaching for the Second Cognition (https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Teaching-Cognition-Evolution-Consciousness-ebook/dp/B01HG1G2BQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472075291&sr=8-1&keywords=Advanced+Teaching+for+the+Second+Cognition),” and taking notes on one of the team members, Doug Michael’s vids (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos) and purchased a couple of his books.

Good stuff.http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/happy0158_zpsunvwduof.GIF

I'm sure you've discovered many on the forum are if not in second cognition, they're pretty close to stepping across that threshold.

Thank you for your contribution to change. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-hugs-765537_zpso1eaenyy.gif

RunningDeer :heart:


Here’s one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos) with some notes I took. Note: colorful language.


Destroying Spiritual Myths, Ascension, Abundance and Material Gain - Doug Michael

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Published on Aug 18, 2016

Doug examines the ascension myth, along with the erroneous ideas of non-judgement and manifestation. He also explores the perspective that nothing is sacred or "divine." Photography by Yardley Pearson.


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Anything that is sacred only means that you are a slave to the divine restrictions.

Hacker Virus Programing your Mind

The hapiym as defined from the video: “Recreating Oneself after Cognitive Deconstruction” - The hapiym is a false construct. An overlay upon the body-mind consciousness form that convinces that all of the programs, the perceptual illusions and personas are you. Ideologies, belief systems, poisonous perceptions, world views and false idea about oneself are encouraged and embraced willingly as the hapiym seeks out the hive in which to cluster with other herd members….

The concept of the divine form, in any form, is nothing but a cognitive trap of submission into a fabricated belief system not of human design. The hapiym mind virus has controlled our consciousness since our species was created. It’s come about at the hands of the ancient gods and the inorganic hive mind of the cosmic hapiym collective has kept humanity subservient throughout the ages with all their doctrines of divine submission.

Definitions:

psoyca (personal sovereignty over your own cognitive advancement). The trade mark anagram is pronounced soy-ka.

hapiym - archonic virus; The virus attaches itself to the body-mind i.e. human physiology, the ego. The ego is not the hapiym but the virus attaches itself to the physiology.

second cognition - “…spiritual advancement and transcend the confines of the first cognition perceptual matrix. In second cognition one has knowingness that you are individuated and that you are respecting each others right to be themselves. Not demanding conformity. Not buying into everything that wants to give identity or take your identity.”



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The fabricated sacred belief systems will not lead you to pragmatic, cognitive freedom as a fully operational human being, operating strictly from primary consciousness.

Anything that is sacred only means that you are a slave to the divine restrictions. How long do you intend to be a slave to the sacred or the divine?

When asked, “Do you find anything sacred?” “Hell, no.” To accept something as sacred is accepting restrictions. Sacred as in sacred ground, means it’s ours. Keep out. We control in all ways through religious jargon: sacred robes, sacred sites, sacred prayers, sacred beads, sacred rosary, sacred priests. Anything that is sacred only means that you are a slave to the divine restrictions.

So we have to ask, “How sacred is sacred?” With the New Age, we see these age old religious beliefs spread wholesale across the spectrum and it permeates thinking at every turn. ‘Divine this’ and ‘sacred that’ is the mainstay of the system.

The judge not meme - Many proponents of everything is perfect and everything is as it should be and we shouldn’t judge is BS. We need to make valid judgement all the time. Example: a registered child molester moves next door. You are going to have to make a judgement to whether or not you allow your kids around the person. Where this judge not idea does makes sense is not making superficial judgements based on appearance, social status, what they do for a living, their dietary or exercise choices and habits. There is a major difference.

Also this new age idea that everything is just fine is a total cop out. Adherence to this notion exhibited a delusional fear based mentality embraced by those who cannot or will not face the situation that surrounds us. It displays cognitive maturity and it simply is not healthy to turn a blind eye to the negative.

Every one of these ideas and concepts whether it’s implied with the superficial dress up, to meditating in your sacred space, is all fictional nonsense. There is no real power in these exhibitions of these hapiym satisfaction. It will not bring you to cognitive freedom.

You are simply being lead by the nose at the hands of your cognitive controllers. They design the doctrines. They design the bogus rituals. They design the alleged rituals. They profess the mysteries. And in the final tally, they are going to give you nothing in return for all your hapiym devotion to their ****. We’re never going to cognitively advance as a cognitive species so long as we place reliance on ancient systems create by our cognitive slave masters.

We will never be able to break ourselves from their cognitive tyranny of always looking backward and repeating ancient traditions, seeking to find anything new. We will only remain roped into their cognitive corrals, repeating their beliefs, repeating their rituals and always expecting to find something magical in their promises and expectations that never in our entire history has given our species a single thing except more divine and sacred dependency on their BS.

They pedal false hopes and false expectations that never manifest. They may make you feel good for a while. They even may make you feel like you are progressing spiritually. But in the end, the results are never long lasting if you are looking to know more or looking to become more, and especially looking for cognitive freedom.

If you are comfortable in their love gilded energetic cage, you’ll never understand this. They pedal doctrines of escapism and fictitious rewards if you only allow them to dictate what to think, how to think and most important of all, rely on them for every answer to your life. This includes to use their information to formulate your perceptions of your experiences.

You can’t become a cognitively aware, fully sovereign being so long as you dance to the demands of their fiddler. We can’t continue to do the same religious and mystical **** as the ancients, which has not worked throughout the ages, and expect a different result. That is insanity.

There is nothing that the cosmic consortium and that includes their off world Annunaki collaborators and human store minders have given us that will ever lead this species to genuine freedom. So long as we rely on their sacred and divine bull**** we will ever be restricted from realizing our true potential as a species. And this is why they have worked so tirelessly from keeping us from discovering that potential.

You’ll never find your own potential, your own primary consciousness, so long as you keep depending on them for what your experiences may mean.

They established your cognitive filtering system. And so long as you use their system of cognitive misinterpretation, you are never going to come up with the right answer. You are only going to reach the conclusion they want you to reach so they can continue to control your mind and your very perception of reality.

If you truly want cognitive freedom, you’re going to have to remove these limiting and strangling perceptual filters. Until you do, you will be looking at an out-of-focus reality. And it is the divine consortium that controls the lens of focus mechanism. To see the picture fully and focused, you have to remove the fuzziness of their limited projections of the screens of your reality and focus to make the picture your picture, not theirs.

The whole theosophy movement was created by humans catering to the whims of the ascended masters channelling their doctrines and people have lapped it up for well over a century.

If you do your research into channel messages, here’s what you’ll find most of the time without fail:

the channeler asks for some divine guidance
the messages contain swami, hapiym stroking words to let the channeler to know how special they are and to manipulate their emotions
the messages are a cookie-cutter approach from one channeler to the next
all of these messages are designed to make the channeler and the people that embrace these messages go “Oh! How divine!”
give them an emotional feeling that there’s some divine hand guiding their fate
it is going to lead you to rapture or ascension or a state of blissful detachment

Light your incense, burn your candles, sit in the lotus position, meditate your way to their version of divine nirvana. And when you get finished, reality is still there staring you in the face. Talk about a let down.

This is what ascended masters’ spirituality will bring you every time. And in the end, you have a handful of nothing but wishful thinking and unfulfilled desires and a sickeningly sweet taste of cotton candy that disappears in your mouth leaving only a bad after taste.

It strokes your hapiym to the point of ecstasy but doesn’t do a single thing to advance your psoyca, i.e. personal sovereignty. It leaves you on a perpetual spiritual tread mill; the fancy kind with a TV monitor that shows you exotic locations to give you the feeling that you are really there. But in the end, you are just on a ****ing treadmill running in place.

Welcome to the divine hamster wheel. The land of promises and no payoff. The land of perpetual frustration. If you are one of these sensitives that have the ability to communicate with these other beings, try asking them some serious and probing questions and see how they react. We are taught since our birth not to question authority and we end up classically conditioned to not question anything, authority or not. STAND UP IN YOUR SOVEREIGNTY.

Don’t let the hapiym or your emotions gage your intuitions. Don’t let emotion govern how you process or how you perceive information. Intuitive knowings from our second cognition experiences are never accompanied by an emotion. If these beings make you feel emotional, especially happy or ecstatic, you need to question why you are feeling that way to convey their messages. There is no feel-good emotions in truth. Truth stands on its own.

[ulli]

Paula, I've missed you. So glad you are back here- the Village is not the same without you.

Your post above made me realize how much this forum has changed over the years. One can now securely post anti-new age stuff and feel confident that there won't be repercussions nor attacks.

Years ago I posted Bronte Baxter's blog https://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/about/ and got some disapproving comments ( or was that a different forum?)
Anyway, I've been scraping all dogma off of me like ticks for years, and only want common sense and intuition to be my guide.

But still, there are moments of awe, when I see something that simply stuns me in its beauty. And I'm not talking about Ben and Jerry's ice cream...
And I dont want to dismiss those moments too lightly, either.
An example would be a really powerful synchronicity. Where the odds are in the millions.
I find that there is something sacred there.

[Mike]

paula, if i were to pick the 1 most important post on the entire forum in the last several years or so, it would be 49602 in this thread.

welcome back.:beer:

[RunningDeer]

paula, if i were to pick the 1 most important post on the entire forum in the last several years or so, it would be 49602 in this thread.

welcome back.:beer:

Hey thanks, Mike. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-waving-756458_zpsgerbbxwz.GIF

On hiatus, I listened to eight of Doug Michael's vids and followed up with several of his and Mr. and Mr. BeAll Endall’s books. On one hand, I hesitate to suggest them because at one level they’re basic to those that’ve followed much of what we discuss on the forum. But then a jewel comes along that I hadn’t considered.

Some of the information dovetails what I experiment with in my day to day. Such as, I no longer need semi-formal to formal ceremony or objects such as crystals, meditation, Reiki and even to the 28 years of Tai Chi. I’ve put that on hold for the summer.

My on-going goal is to be an original. The way is continue to eliminate programs implanted by the Consortium and inorganic AI by way of family dynamics, media, education, religion and all that rot, and to stay grounded, to experience and learn from within and to live a custom-made life.


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Here's a series of 92 videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BJ_qoOOG38&list=PLSrQpANX8j7U2yJ7y8xEr2AVoGv_pgGxy) or @ Doug Michaels' channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos). From what I've gathered, Michaels' format is to read from the series of books out by Mr. & Mrs. EndAll BeAll and himself. If you want to follow along, the titles from the chapters match the videos. I download* the videos. That way I can stop and ponder, rewind when my mind wanders or transcribe.

* Download videos using free software from aimersoft.com (http://www.aimersoft.com). It converts it into different formats like audio or video.

[Mike]

paula, if i were to pick the 1 most important post on the entire forum in the last several years or so, it would be 49602 in this thread.

welcome back.:beer:

Hey thanks, Mike. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-waving-756458_zpsgerbbxwz.GIF

On hiatus, I listened to eight of Doug Michaels’ vids and followed up with several of his and Mr. and Mr. BeAll Endall’s books. On one hand, I hesitate to suggest them because at one level they’re basic to those that’ve followed much of what we discuss on the forum. But then a jewel comes along that I hadn’t considered.

Some of the information dovetails what I experiment with in my day to day. Such as, I no longer need semi-formal to formal ceremony or objects such as crystals, meditation, Reiki and even to the 28 years of Tai Chi. I’ve put that on hold for the summer.

My on-going goal is to be an original. The way is continue to eliminate programs implanted by the Consortium and inorganic AI by way of family dynamics, media, education, religion and all that rot, and to stay grounded, to experience and learn from within and to live a custom-made life.


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Here's a series of 92 videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BJ_qoOOG38&list=PLSrQpANX8j7U2yJ7y8xEr2AVoGv_pgGxy) or @ Doug Michaels' channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos). From what I've gathered, Michaels' format is to read from the series of books out by Mr. & Mrs. EndAll BeAll and himself. If you want to follow along, the titles from the chapters match the videos. I download* the videos. That way I can stop and ponder, rewind when my mind wanders or transcribe.

* Download videos using free software from aimersoft.com (http://www.aimersoft.com). It converts it into different formats like audio or video.

Im not even really interested in where the programs are coming from anymore..its just enough to know theyre there and somethin must be done about them.

Note: actually your post was #2 in terms of significance...right behind my profound statement in the very important penis thread.

:)

[ulli]

paula, if i were to pick the 1 most important post on the entire forum in the last several years or so, it would be 49602 in this thread.

welcome back.:beer:

Hey thanks, Mike. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-waving-756458_zpsgerbbxwz.GIF

On hiatus, I listened to eight of Doug Michaels’ vids and followed up with several of his and Mr. and Mr. BeAll Endall’s books. On one hand, I hesitate to suggest them because at one level they’re basic to those that’ve followed much of what we discuss on the forum. But then a jewel comes along that I hadn’t considered.

Some of the information dovetails what I experiment with in my day to day. Such as, I no longer need semi-formal to formal ceremony or objects such as crystals, meditation, Reiki and even to the 28 years of Tai Chi. I’ve put that on hold for the summer.

My on-going goal is to be an original. The way is continue to eliminate programs implanted by the Consortium and inorganic AI by way of family dynamics, media, education, religion and all that rot, and to stay grounded, to experience and learn from within and to live a custom-made life.


*****

Here's a series of 92 videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BJ_qoOOG38&list=PLSrQpANX8j7U2yJ7y8xEr2AVoGv_pgGxy) or @ Doug Michaels' channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos). From what I've gathered, Michaels' format is to read from the series of books out by Mr. & Mrs. EndAll BeAll and himself. If you want to follow along, the titles from the chapters match the videos. I download* the videos. That way I can stop and ponder, rewind when my mind wanders or transcribe.

* Download videos using free software from aimersoft.com (http://www.aimersoft.com). It converts it into different formats like audio or video.

Im not even really interested in where the programs are coming from anymore..its just enough to know theyre there and somethin must be done about them.

Note: actually your post was #2 in terms of significance...right behind my profound statement in the very important penis thread.

:)

The long awaited world peace will arrive when all dick-measuring stops.
Competition zero. Just being here, now....


Edit:
On second thought...How can I be here, now, when I see those pictures of Italy?

But one picture stood out, the one with the red apartment building. Three or four stories high, and no damage, still standing amidst the rubble.
Lets hope that lessons can be learnt from this.

As a European, now living in an earthquake zone here in Costa Rica I can only take comfort in our strict building regulations. Everyhing made of concrete is reenforced with steel, and the wooden shacks are built so lightly that if something drops on your head it only leaves a few scratches.

The moment I saw those pictures I thought of that video from the farsight institute.
Accurate description, truly prophetic, but what good does it do to have this ability?
As Rocky said, do more than go to bed with a helmet on and padding gets complicated, and without precise location you have more than 8 billion potential victims.

[ulli]

And here is a summary of current trends:
https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14040195_10153636137546891_6403168486649337848_n.jpg?oh=601bafa9eca459158eabf74509f7f92c&oe=58508551
But perhaps it is a first step and thus ok.
And even fishies deserve to have a go at self-knowledge.

[RunningDeer]

Paula, I've missed you. So glad you are back here- the Village is not the same without you.

Your post above made me realize how much this forum has changed over the years. One can now securely post anti-new age stuff and feel confident that there won't be repercussions nor attacks.

Years ago I posted Bronte Baxter's blog https://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/about/ and got some disapproving comments ( or was that a different forum?)
Anyway, I've been scraping all dogma off of me like ticks for years, and only want common sense and intuition to be my guide.

But still, there are moments of awe, when I see something that simply stuns me in its beauty. And I'm not talking about Ben and Jerry's ice cream...
And I dont want to dismiss those moments too lightly, either.
An example would be a really powerful synchronicity. Where the odds are in the millions.
I find that there is something sacred there.

Thank you, Ulli. :heart:

Sometimes, I groan at the things I thought were sacred, other times I laugh. I’m grateful for this phase of unlearning. Which is why I’m nixing all that I naively considered sacred.

The most challenging part is not to discount real, personal experiences thinking they were intentionally manufactured by the inorganics. That too is giving power away and playing in their game.

What I notice is to live ordinary and real is a challenge, yet equally refreshing. I’ve had to up my game in the attention department.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/do-not-feed-inorganics_zpscif3baht.JPG

[RunningDeer]

Im not even really interested in where the programs are coming from anymore..its just enough to know theyre there and somethin must be done about them.

Note: actually your post was #2 in terms of significance...right behind my profound statement in the very important penis thread.

:)

Ha! See I missed that one. Maybe because of what you stated (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92789-Penis-size-study&p=1092661&viewfull=1#post1092661), which I ought not repeat here because it’s in the members only section.
In this moment it feels like that thread is a wee bit of these aren't the droids you're looking for. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/hypnotize_zpsiw4jb96s.GIF


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/droids_zpsf0dlmlij.JPG

[ulli]

Paula, I've missed you. So glad you are back here- the Village is not the same without you.

Your post above made me realize how much this forum has changed over the years. One can now securely post anti-new age stuff and feel confident that there won't be repercussions nor attacks.

Years ago I posted Bronte Baxter's blog https://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/about/ and got some disapproving comments ( or was that a different forum?)
Anyway, I've been scraping all dogma off of me like ticks for years, and only want common sense and intuition to be my guide.

But still, there are moments of awe, when I see something that simply stuns me in its beauty. And I'm not talking about Ben and Jerry's ice cream...
And I dont want to dismiss those moments too lightly, either.
An example would be a really powerful synchronicity. Where the odds are in the millions.
I find that there is something sacred there.

Thank you, Ulli. :heart:

Sometimes, I groan at the things I thought were sacred, other times I laugh. I’m grateful for this phase of unlearning. Which is why I’m nixing all that I naively considered sacred.

The most challenging part is not to discount real, personal experiences thinking they were intentionally manufactured by the inorganics. That too is giving power away and playing in their game.

What I notice is to live ordinary and real is a challenge, yet equally refreshing. I’ve had to up my game in the attention department.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/do-not-feed-inorganics_zpscif3baht.JPG


Yes, good point about how not to give power away to inorganics.
One huge awakening I got from moving into third world society was the discovery of the power to ignore.
Ignore, ignore, ignore.
I'm sure most of you have seen me practise this.
I could not have survived Avalon this long if I had taken on some of the "truths" and dogmas spouted here.

The processes of a healthy life have to be rhythmic.
Expansion and consolidation must alternate.
Being informed of the goings-on around us, by all means, then pausing briefly to enter the void.
Always searching for what to do next, in the context of the mission one has chosen as an individual soul.

By the way, beholding something as sacred is not an unhealthy state of being, but one must be aware of who designed the sacred object, or legend, or myth in the first place, and what their objectives were when doing so.

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14067721_10210507115656769_8339915327898026960_n.jpg?oh=ccb82779532605bea914c84ff4093442&oe=584B81EE

My debunker friends kept sending me to Snopes.
From now on I will send them this picture.

[Hym]

Will catch up soon with this family of souls we are, when I make some time in my very busy schedule, working 12-14 hr.days with 3 hours of travel these last 3 1/2 months. It is good to see, know, feel the same heart is expanding with all of the great input, listening, humility and courage I've known it to be. See ya soon.
Blessings You Are, Hym.

[animovado]

Some doors are difficult to open (for myself). As if „divine restriction“ is the rust that makes them hanging stiffly in their hinges.
Other doors seem already open and give sight into a pathless land (http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/dissolution-speech.php) and a feeling for all that you can leave behind.
Like an invitation to take off the old and heavy robes.

Naturist soulscapes. Holy ....!

[ulli]

Some doors are difficult to open (for myself). As if „divine restriction“ is the rust that makes them hanging stiffly in their hinges.
Other doors seem already open and give sight into a pathless land (http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/dissolution-speech.php) and a feeling for all that you can leave behind.
Like an invitation to take off the old and heavy robes.

Naturist soulscapes. Holy ....!

I went to hear Krishnamurti give one of his famous talks about how to step out of separation into wholeness. That was in September of 1980. September 5th, a sunny Saturday in autumn, in the south of England. It was a beautiful day, blue sky, fluffy white clouds, and a faint chill already in the air.
it was an unforgettable day in many ways, least of all the hard uncomfortable chair I had to sit on.
The next morning came the news of my father's coma, and a few hours later of his passing.
I have to admit, Krishnamurti had his timing right, calling me ( through the aether) to give me a battery charge at such a moment in my life.
I had never heard of such a concept before, but I knew that he knew what he was talking about.
And whenever anyone comes along and reminds me of K.'s message I am grateful for the reminder.

[Baby Steps]

Thanks Running Deer, perhaps I'll steer clear of this:








I remember asking Omniverse why Shamanic techniques for protection such as 'Sacred Space' - or perhaps better - 'sovereign space' and asking entities to provide protection from attacks or other entities - did work. He said that the AI running the whole shebang needed to keep the illusion up, so when you asked the AI illusion for protection against what actually was another piece of AI, you got it, but that was part of the deception...

[TargeT]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14067721_10210507115656769_8339915327898026960_n.jpg?oh=ccb82779532605bea914c84ff4093442&oe=584B81EE

My debunker friends kept sending me to Snopes.
From now on I will send them this picture.

anyone who would feed them selves (and even worse, their cat!) to that level of obesity is not a person I trust with "debunking" anything.. clearly there are self control issues at the very least which WILL bleed over into any work done....




Thanks for the meme, I needed that one in my arsenal ;)

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14102538_10154080252494261_2564854367987068762_n.jpg?oh=3ba445094eeac901fcaded28d06fe3c2&oe=5844112D

Right down my alley.
Teacher asked, student replied.
Straight and honest.
Maybe student will one day reform NASA.

[ulli]

https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14141687_1132668413453538_5188244520925924896_n.jpg?oh=6e862fcb4f0ffa1678b00589b173839c&oe=5850353B

[Flash]

These comments of yours seem sooo obnoxious to me and obese racist that I have to answer. And I cannot believe Ulli, Jean Marie and Running Deer thanked it.

First: it is not all obese who lack self control, in fact, lots of them who have been doing yoyo dieting and gaining all their life are more control freaks than most.

Second: and obese cannot go to obese anonymous. It is about the only potential addiction - because for some food is an addiction, but this is faaaarrrrr from being the case for every obese - that you cannot be anonymous about.

Third: your comments are pretty close to bullies attitudes. Obese have been bullied back forth and again all their lifes. Thanks for being part of the problem.

Fourth: your comments are on the verge of showing complete ignorance of - the addition of sugar and salt everywhere which is more damaging to some than others - the Monsanto pesticides killling the good intestinal bacteria which help you, if you are not effected, to have weight control without ANY effort, once gone, weight problems starts - the uses of medecine, amongst other penicillin and antibiotics that kills good guts bacteria as well, creating the problems to start with (then enhanced by Monsanto's work and the food industry's work)

Fifth: your comments are showing a complete lack of respect for those who like people on the chubbier side instead of liking anorexics and wanting only anorexics (control freaks is not always healthy, in fact most of the time it is not). You even show your generation biases regarding weight, no kidding.

Sixth: you and your likers also show that all of you never had real weight problems, not even those some women have after or around giving birth.

Finally, these kinds of comments are as bad as those from people laughing at or criticising cripple people, learning disabled, or people with any health problems from acne to burn victims.

How do you ever dare thinking that brain intelligence and thorough work is inversely proportional to someone's weight - f ck. Have you seen Henry Deacon? Oprah? and many more.

And i know I won't have thanks for my comments on yours, and that is fine, as long as there is some inner reflection and improvements somewhere for all, for god sake. Cognitive awareness starts HERE.

And yes, for comments like this, I will vehemently defend the attacked, as I did for my daughter who was heavily bullied for her language problems.

Have you ever seen a group of teenager girls being bullied or comparing themselves to the anorexics models and feeling completely inadequate when they are just regular weight - can you imagine what these kinds of views do to girls or women who are a bit chubby? (even if you do not tell, they feel it and see it in your eyes - biaises are that showing).


https://scontent-mia1-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14067721_10210507115656769_8339915327898026960_n.jpg?oh=ccb82779532605bea914c84ff4093442&oe=584B81EE

My debunker friends kept sending me to Snopes.
From now on I will send them this picture.

anyone who would feed them selves (and even worse, their cat!) to that level of obesity is not a person I trust with "debunking" anything.. clearly there are self control issues at the very least which WILL bleed over into any work done....




Thanks for the meme, I needed that one in my arsenal ;)

[TargeT]

Finally, these kinds of comments are as bad as those from people laughing at or criticising cripple people, learning disabled, or people with any health problems from acne to burn victims.

How do you ever dare thinking that brain intelligence and thorough work is inversely proportional to someone's weight - f ck. Have you seen Henry Deacon? Oprah? and many more.



Oh I don't know, you might be projecting a bit.


I'm currently 5'11" @ 210lbs through PURE WILL POWER. ("diet"s, exersize; none of it seemed to matter.. long story & honestly, not relevant, but there it is)

I've taken up much more space before ;)


How about we just focus on the cat. Take issue with that?

I think the cat is much more indicative of the problem. THAT at least they have complete control over.


I'm sad you reacted in the way you did to my words; but being a "chub survivor" myself (I have lovely tiger stripes when topless) and previously living with many obese individuals (and hearing Ad nauseam their excuses for weight) I'm pretty comfortable with what I stated.

Will power is a hard thing to direct on a constant bases, like holding a wet bar of soap on a rollercoaster ride....i know.. but sometimes it must be done.


When it comes down to it, my solution (and evryones really) is very easy..


EAT

LESS


For my body type & metabolism I eat one (surprisingly small) meal a day & drink liquids the rest of the time (maybe a hand full of nuts here or there..).... that wasn't easy to get used to.. but after a few years of doing it I don't even remember what being hungry multiple times a day feels like & it seems silly to me.

SPEAKING OF WHICH!

I"m off to my weekly thursday trivia @ a local bar (time for that 1 meal.. I'm thinking hotdog with bacon on it.. yep!)

[Dianamar]

paula, if i were to pick the 1 most important post on the entire forum in the last several years or so, it would be 49602 in this thread.

welcome back.:beer:

Hello Mike , i don't know what to say about that post , i'm almost lost for words. So many generalizations of things it seems the point has been missed for what spiritual advancement is actually about. The video it seems has been narrated by someone who sounds like an Atheist ? i don't know for sure but he sounds like one.

My " Spiritual " journey was about being happy with my self, yes there are many pit falls in the alternative sciences but this is true of every facet of life here, do we quit because its all too hard ? sounds like someone has ( in the video )

I guess the training wheels are off for us now, is that not evolution ?

I appreciate Running Deer bringing the post and this is not really about her ( speaking directly now ) I can see somewhere in your life you have been challenged by the " circus " and i feel for you, i hope you don't give up because this is the test.

[3(C)+me]

So Mrs. EB, if you catch this post, I’ve been reading your ”Advanced Teaching for the Second Cognition (https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Teaching-Cognition-Evolution-Consciousness-ebook/dp/B01HG1G2BQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472075291&sr=8-1&keywords=Advanced+Teaching+for+the+Second+Cognition),” and taking notes on one of the team members, Doug Michael’s vids (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos) and purchased a couple of his books.

Good stuff.http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/happy0158_zpsunvwduof.GIF

I'm sure you've discovered many on the forum are if not in second cognition, they're pretty close to stepping across that threshold.

Thank you for your contribution to change. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-hugs-765537_zpso1eaenyy.gif

RunningDeer :heart:


Here’s one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/DougMichael68/videos) with some notes I took. Note: colorful language.


Destroying Spiritual Myths, Ascension, Abundance and Material Gain - Doug Michael

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Oh Paula that was a good one.
Preaching to the choir...but this is pretty much where I am at this time.

This reminds me of a little story.

I visit a local market, one of the cashiers when you ask her how she is she says she is 'Blessed" "I am blessed" She is a Christian from a certain church.
She smiles, the implication is that she is blessed, and special because she is Saved and you are not.
One day after biting my teeth and attempting to show some self control, I told her that everyone is blessed.
Oh she said, she went on to say that "Unless you express your wish to be saved by ......"
I stopped her in mid-sentence and said the creator does not have favorites.
And I probably said a few other things about what he does or doesn't require.
Mind you there were people behind me and I looked back they all had lowered heads but were listening to every word.
The manager came over, "Is their a problem here"
Well, I now avoid her line and she knows why.

Flash, I love your candor and your spunk.
Carry on my dear.


(back to lurker mode)

[Dianamar]

Finally, these kinds of comments are as bad as those from people laughing at or criticising cripple people, learning disabled, or people with any health problems from acne to burn victims.

How do you ever dare thinking that brain intelligence and thorough work is inversely proportional to someone's weight - f ck. Have you seen Henry Deacon? Oprah? and many more.



Oh I don't know, you might be projecting a bit.


I'm currently 5'11" @ 210lbs through PURE WILL POWER. ("diet"s, exersize; none of it seemed to matter.. long story & honestly, not relevant, but there it is)

I've taken up much more space before ;)


How about we just focus on the cat. Take issue with that?

I think the cat is much more indicative of the problem. THAT at least they have complete control over.


I'm sad you reacted in the way you did to my words; but being a "chub survivor" myself (I have lovely tiger stripes when topless) and previously living with many obese individuals (and hearing Ad nauseam their excuses for weight) I'm pretty comfortable with what I stated.

Will power is a hard thing to direct on a constant bases, like holding a wet bar of soap on a rollercoaster ride....i know.. but sometimes it must be done.


When it comes down to it, my solution (and evryones really) is very easy..


EAT

LESS


For my body type & metabolism I eat one (surprisingly small) meal a day & drink liquids the rest of the time (maybe a hand full of nuts here or there..).... that wasn't easy to get used to.. but after a few years of doing it I don't even remember what being hungry multiple times a day feels like & it seems silly to me.

SPEAKING OF WHICH!

I"m off to my weekly thursday trivia @ a local bar (time for that 1 meal.. I'm thinking hotdog with bacon on it.. yep!)

Interesting " coincidence " this and my previous post tie in very well with my experiences, I too have had weight problems, and it was when i found happiness through a spiritual guidance that i started to shed weight.

Long story short i was a PA for about 4 years, during that time i went from a happy weight to very over weight and nothing i could do shed the extra pounds. I tried everything , finally i went to a " spiritual Councillor " i thought why not !

He told me the following based on an interview with me.

" I was un happy with my work life " I thought he was kidding, i made great money, lots of benefits etc. etc. But he insisted i at least take long leave. So i did
He said to do whatever gave me " Joy " so for the first month i sat around at home eating chocolate and watching re runs of " Bold and the Beautiful " i actually would shiver with excitement when i woke in the morning ( strange i know ) but after 1 month of this seemingly strange advice i noticed on the third week my pajamas were loose on me , in fact on the fourth week my pajama pants were falling off me !

i weighed my self and i only lost 2 pounds ... however my body started to " get smaller "

i realised later it was stress from work that created hormonal imbalances, i quit my job ! i now work in a field i adore and have been happy with my weight ever since !

[Mike]

Thanks Running Deer, perhaps I'll steer clear of this:








I remember asking Omniverse why Shamanic techniques for protection such as 'Sacred Space' - or perhaps better - 'sovereign space' and asking entities to provide protection from attacks or other entities - did work. He said that the AI running the whole shebang needed to keep the illusion up, so when you asked the AI illusion for protection against what actually was another piece of AI, you got it, but that was part of the deception...



Omni is spot on imho. Ive always thought exorcisms were quite silly, for example....with the preist demanding the demons name, the holy water bit, the faux cries of grief from the "suffering" demon.....soooo dramatic. Its all a ruse.

[Jean-Marie]

:bearhug: Dear Flash, I understand your point of view, However, I am overweight, working on it. I actually lost 50 pounds last year. I happen to be a mom that had a bad habit of medicating people and myself with good tasty food. I was a mom with five sons and there was nothing that a warm batch of chocolate chip cookies couldn't fix. I know now and had finally recognized what I was doing. I am working on it and that is why I thanked Target for the reminder! :heart:

Sometimes we all have to recognize what triggers our feelings. :bearhug:




These comments of yours seem sooo obnoxious to me and obese racist that I have to answer. And I cannot believe Ulli, Jean Marie and Running Deer thanked it.

First: it is not all obese who lack self control, in fact, lots of them who have been doing yoyo dieting and gaining all their life are more control freaks than most.

Second: and obese cannot go to obese anonymous. It is about the only potential addiction - because for some food is an addiction, but this is faaaarrrrr from being the case for every obese - that you cannot be anonymous about.

Third: your comments are pretty close to bullies attitudes. Obese have been bullied back forth and again all their lifes. Thanks for being part of the problem.

Fourth: your comments are on the verge of showing complete ignorance of - the addition of sugar and salt everywhere which is more damaging to some than others - the Monsanto pesticides killling the good intestinal bacteria which help you, if you are not effected, to have weight control without ANY effort, once gone, weight problems starts - the uses of medecine, amongst other penicillin and antibiotics that kills good guts bacteria as well, creating the problems to start with (then enhanced by Monsanto's work and the food industry's work)

Fifth: your comments are showing a complete lack of respect for those who like people on the chubbier side instead of liking anorexics and wanting only anorexics (control freaks is not always healthy, in fact most of the time it is not). You even show your generation biases regarding weight, no kidding.

Sixth: you and your likers also show that all of you never had real weight problems, not even those some women have after or around giving birth.

Finally, these kinds of comments are as bad as those from people laughing at or criticising cripple people, learning disabled, or people with any health problems from acne to burn victims.

How do you ever dare thinking that brain intelligence and thorough work is inversely proportional to someone's weight - f ck. Have you seen Henry Deacon? Oprah? and many more.

And i know I won't have thanks for my comments on yours, and that is fine, as long as there is some inner reflection and improvements somewhere for all, for god sake. Cognitive awareness starts HERE.

And yes, for comments like this, I will vehemently defend the attacked, as I did for my daughter who was heavily bullied for her language problems.

Have you ever seen a group of teenager girls being bullied or comparing themselves to the anorexics models and feeling completely inadequate when they are just regular weight - can you imagine what these kinds of views do to girls or women who are a bit chubby? (even if you do not tell, they feel it and see it in your eyes - biaises are that showing).


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My debunker friends kept sending me to Snopes.
From now on I will send them this picture.

anyone who would feed them selves (and even worse, their cat!) to that level of obesity is not a person I trust with "debunking" anything.. clearly there are self control issues at the very least which WILL bleed over into any work done....




Thanks for the meme, I needed that one in my arsenal ;)

[TargeT]

i weighed my self and i only lost 2 pounds ... however my body started to " get smaller "

i realised later it was stress from work that created hormonal imbalances, i quit my job ! i now work in a field i adore and have been happy with my weight ever since !

That might have a lot more to do with it for me as well... leaving Alaska and moving somewhere awesome coincided with a nice 35lb weight loss. I should probably be closer to 180, but I'm fine at 210 and luckily I wear it well.

[Mike]

paula, if i were to pick the 1 most important post on the entire forum in the last several years or so, it would be 49602 in this thread.

welcome back.:beer:

Hello Mike , i don't know what to say about that post , i'm almost lost for words. So many generalizations of things it seems the point has been missed for what spiritual advancement is actually about. The video it seems has been narrated by someone who sounds like an Atheist ? i don't know for sure but he sounds like one.

My " Spiritual " journey was about being happy with my self, yes there are many pit falls in the alternative sciences but this is true of every facet of life here, do we quit because its all too hard ? sounds like someone has ( in the video )

I guess the training wheels are off for us now, is that not evolution ?

I appreciate Running Deer bringing the post and this is not really about her ( speaking directly now ) I can see somewhere in your life you have been challenged by the " circus " and i feel for you, i hope you don't give up because this is the test.


Thats cool. I hear you..

...but i don't regard life as a "test" . I believe thats just another meme, or program if you will. So are ideas of "passing" and "failing".

Spiritual advancement, like most things, means different things to different people. One persons ascension is another persons hell.

Atheist? I dont think so. His ideas just go far beyond an old man in the sky with a really good beard.

[RunningDeer]

These comments of yours seem sooo obnoxious to me and obese racist that I have to answer. And I cannot believe Ulli, Jean Marie and Running Deer thanked it.

...you and your likers also show that all of you never had real weight problems, not even those some women have after or around giving birth.

...Obese have been bullied back forth and again all their lifes. Thanks for being part of the problem.
Sorry, Flash. Here at the Village, it’s the one thread that I thank all for their points of views. I may forget to thank now and again but it’s rare over site.


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As for never experiencing weight gain? After Michael's death coupled with the change of life, I put on 15-20 lbs/6-9 kg. Mostly, I’m a closet eater. I use to run 3.5-5 miles a day to hide the evidence from myself and others. Too, there were other avenues of exercise through the years to cope with stress and self-loathing (to name a few).

I use to bake a cake, eat half for breakfast and finish it off to hide the evidence before hubby got home. A couple of times, I tossed half the cake into the garbage only to retrieve and polish it off. (man...many levels of pain) So I sprayed dish detergent on it. Shortly after, I closed out that chapter of my life with a divorce and I began anew. Now, 40+ years later, I’ve kept a promise with myself to keep trigger foods and alcohol out of my sanctuary. I invite in Ben & Jerry's in only several times a year. When with friends and family, I don't monitor much.


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I was planning to wait before I posted my latest health experiment. My goal isn’t how much the scale registers. It’s the fat percentage. (for the most part) It’ll be five weeks tomorrow that I’ve followed this book, “The Starch Solution: Eat the Foods You Love, Regain Your Health, and Lose the Weight for Good! (https://www.amazon.com/Starch-Solution-Regain-Health-Weight/dp/1623360277/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472177922&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Starch+Solution%3A+Eat+the+Foods+You+Love%2C+Regain+Your+Health%2C+and+Lose+the+Weight+ for+Good%21),” by John McDougall, MD and Mary McDougall. It's not a diet, it's a solution.

My fat percentage dropped from 25% to 23%. It was a week into the experiment, that I noticed when I’d walk down the stairs, my knees didn’t hurt. The pesky aches and pains are all G-O-N-E. My highest fat percentage this year was 26.5% on Feb. 29, 2016. It took lots of walks in snow, sleet, cold winds and then stinking summer humidity to maintain between 25-26.5%. So you can see why I’m excited about how in only five weeks, it’s dropped from 25% to 23%.


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Here's a Body Fat Percentage (http://www.fat2fittools.com/tools/cbbf/) website. What I've done is create a spread sheet where I plug in the weight and measurements. It converts the data into percentage and weight goal, fat and lean (muscle) weight, inches lost, etc. It's a tool that helps me stay healthy and fit.

Along with the book and many hours of research, here’s some pictures of High Carb Hannah and videos that inspired me:


The fat you eat, is the fat you wear.

Quality starch foods have a low calorie density and a high satiety value per calorie.

11 months on plant based diet - 188 lbs./85 kg to 133 lbs./60 kg
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/1-best_zpsslndp1lf.JPG

30 Day Potato Diet - 6 lb loss
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Before & After VIDEO Of My 55+ Pound Weight Loss
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The Starch Solution - John McDougall MD
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Calorie Density with Jeff Novick
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Fake Obesity Experts
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[RunningDeer]

I appreciate Running Deer bringing the post and this is not really about her ( speaking directly now ) I can see somewhere in your life you have been challenged by the " circus " and i feel for you, i hope you don't give up because this is the test.

Thanks, Dianamar, and a belated welcome to Avalon. :wave:

Naw. Giving up is not my style. If I’m down, it’s not for long. When I signed on to this experience, I brought my secret weapon.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/Energizer-Bunny_zpsnewh5vov.JPG


Thats cool. I hear you..

...but i don't regard life as a "test" . I believe thats just another meme, or program if you will. So are ideas of "passing" and "failing".

Spiritual advancement, like most things, means different things to different people. One persons ascension is another persons hell.

Atheist? I dont think so. His ideas just go far beyond an old man in the sky with a really good beard.

Speaking of memes and ‘isms’…here’s what Doug Michael points out, including atheists. If you are short on time, the first 7-8 minutes is power packed.


A World without “God"
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[Flash]

very interesting

and sadly, I expected the reactions you had to my last post

Nobody sees that the attitude shown through `Targets words against overweight people is exactly the same judgmental attitude some have against races, nations, anyone that is different. And certainly not Target himself , he is completely right in his views.

This is worst than many obvious bullyings, because it is unconscous or self approved.

Hey: he equated lack of intelligence and discipline with weight gain!!!! WAKE UP!!!

You would have all condemned his words if it were against women or blacks.

Lets try it:
anyone who would feed them selves (and even worse, their cat!) to that level of obesity is not a person I trust with "debunking" anything.. clearly there are self control issues at the very least which WILL bleed over into any work done....



Anyone who shows their feminine sides (and worse, shows their female cat) to that level is not a person I trust with "debunking" anything... clearly there are sself control issues at the very least which WILL (capital) bleed over into any work done... THOSE COULD BE THE WORDS OF A STRICT MUSLIM for whom women are just a nuisance to be tolerated.

or

Anyone who shows their blackness behaviors (and worst have a black cat) to that level is not a person I trust with "debunking" anything... clearly there are self control issues at the very least which WILL (capital) bleed over into any work done. TELL ME THIS WOULD NOT RING LIKE KKK


Ex fat (target) being worst and knowing it all about others who are overweight (worst than ex smokers against smokers).

It is weird funny that the other day I was looking at a documentary filmed in the early 50's. I was amazed, because nobody in the crowds were fat. Something must have happened in between that has nothing to do with will and control!!! Nobody ask this question???

Gosh, and we are in a "awaken" forum of people.

Really sad.

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Paula, I am happy if your fat level experiment works. Great.

However, this is not necessarily what others can easily do. I have known obese people who just cannot get rid of the weight, having done dozens of diets throughout their life, some having lost 400-500 pounds throughout their lifes, just to gain it back, without eating much, some 800 calories a day, not enough for health purposes (vitamins and minerals intake). Don't tell me those do not have control or will, they have in fact more than most.

Much videos shown on how to lose weight, putting all of the blame on the obeses, not much here on sugar content in foods which has gone from 2 kg per year to over 200 kg per years per person in the USA for example, most of which hidden. Or the campaing of the sugar industry to blame the fat in meat instead of sugar in food. And the sugar industry making sure research ARE NOT DONE on this topic. Just one example. Nobody talks here of the growth hormones in cow milk, impacting all the children of America and cheese eating adults. Nobody talks here of the antibiotics in animal feeds that makes them and us sick and our pathogenes resistant, nobody talks here of the pesticides in the soil and rivers.......

No instead, we/you/us judge those canaries in the mine, the obese who are really affected by the industrial disease (I do not mean just you Paula, but lots of people with that attitude)

AND

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Target, there is no relation between intelligence, abilities to think and research, and weight. Period.

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Jean-Marie, fifty pounds away, a guy like Target would have judged you as not worthy to listen to, your research not trustworthy because of your weight, as without control and as not intelligent. That is the start, before you even show him your research results. How prejudiced is that?

[Curt]

Target, to judge the messenger and not the message is a logical fallacy. You have pointed this out in other threads. You have done so, quite rightly, in order to place primary importance on information, rather than personalities.

I'm not saying, by the way, that I successfully 'do' this myself. I often let my distaste for a personality color my impression of their message. It's something I'm working on. Maybe it's something many of us are working on.

I've found your reminders to guard against this common error-- and other related fallacies-- to be very helpful. In my opinion, it's one of your best contributions to the forum.

So in this spirit, I would ask you to consider whether you might have fallen into this very trap in this particular case.

[RunningDeer]

very interesting

and sadly, I expected the reactions you had to my last post
My focus was to offer information rather than debate Target’s post. My reaction and understanding to his post is like others on the forum and in life. Generally speaking, it’s either a perspective I don’t resonate with or I chalked it up to youth or a moment of stupidity or too quick with a comment before thinking or cursory read to a thread or others drool at the chance to go poke-poke and debate and lastly, I chalk it up to some wearing a bravado hat on a particular day.

Oh, I forgot…one more…there are the ones where I want to loan them my gone fishin’ sign.

Flash, I didn’t want to slam you with videos and books. The book I suggested above has before and after photos of men and women and accounts of how they’ve struggled their whole lives. And it covers how along with 30 minutes a day of gentle movement, it’s the elimination of the simple sugars, processed foods, and fats from dairy, fish and meats that’ve changed lives. It’s cured and/or reversed the effects of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, or arthritis, gallbladder disease, constipation, indigestion, multiple sclerosis and cancers of the breast, prostate, and colon. (to name a few)

[Sierra]

Enough, Flash. Your self righteousness is heh... but do you think TargeT heard what you were trying to say about pain given the way you expressed yourself which was also judgemental?

Yes, a picture was posted that we were to find funny, displaying a fat woman, and a fat cat. Yes, TargeT displayed judgement on weight, and ignorance on "will power" being the answer, while what RunningDeer quoted from Mrs. BeAllEndAll a few posts above fell to the wayside unheard:


The judge not meme - Many proponents of everything is perfect and everything is as it should be and we shouldn’t judge is BS.

<snip>

Where this judge not idea does makes sense is not making superficial judgements based on appearance, social status, what they do for a living, their dietary or exercise choices and habits. There is a major difference.

Yes, weight is the hook for much misognyistic cruelty and bullying that is usually not applied to men, only to women and children.

I am sorry you have suffered so much pain and hurt on this subject, but what will continuing to dump on TargeT for his insensitivity do for you? You are triggered, and it's yours to cope (and yes, my weight has done the yo yo through the decades, and I understand your frustration).

Personally I found the picture spoke to me of poverty, ignorance, and old age rather than gluttony.

Edit to add: I agree Mike, that Pauler post was brilliant, I've read it three times and I'm still thinking about it...

[PurpleLama]

I notice, no one seems to be actually defending Snopes....

[Jean-Marie]

Good Morning Village!

I really want everyone here to know the appreciation :bearhug: I have for all of you! :heart: It was a tough summer for me. I am beginning to feel better, I am healing.

I have lost my sister, and my parents, but the sadness and grief of the loss of my son Kyle was overwhelming. I asked the village to support me the day of the memorial service. I didn't know how I was going to get through the day. My granddaughter, Kyle's daughter, made me hold her throughout the visitation and service. Holding and comforting a child, helped me keep my grace about me. :heart: The support and prayers of everyone on this thread helped me get through the day. I also want to thank everyone who sent me supportive private messages.

The Village is a wonderful place. Lots of healing, laughter, sorrow, etc.. Is shared on this thread and we all have been here to support each other! This has always been my favorite place on Avalon.

I Love You All! :heart:

-jean-marie

[RunningDeer]

Good Morning Village!

I really want everyone here to know the appreciation :bearhug: I have for all of you! :heart: It was a tough summer for me. I am beginning to feel better, I am healing.

I have lost my sister, and my parents, but the sadness and grief of the loss of my son Kyle was overwhelming. I asked the village to support me the day of the memorial service. I didn't know how I was going to get through the day. My granddaughter, Kyle's daughter, made me hold her throughout the visitation and service. Holding and comforting a child, helped me keep my grace about me. :heart: The support and prayers of everyone on this thread helped me get through the day. I also want to thank everyone who sent me supportive private messages.

The Village is a wonderful place. Lots of healing, laughter, sorrow, etc.. Is shared on this thread and we all have been here to support each other! This has always been my favorite place on Avalon.

I Love You All! :heart:

-jean-marie


Jean-Marie, try as I might, I’m at lost for word that express how I feel for what you are going through with the different stage of grief, pain and sorrow. You come into my thoughts every day.

All my life, I’ve changed what needed changing. When my son passed change what needed changing was impossible. Until that point, patience and acceptance wasn’t part of my skill set. Damn acceptance took a while. The way I see it, life’s a breeze because nothing I face will ever be as painful.

Love and blessings, Jean-Marie. :heart:

[Flash]

I know your initent was fine Paula and I know your information was right. The difference with me, today, is that I have undertaken not to shuffle such comments under the carpet anymore and go fishing.

It seems to be Target's temperament to be quick in judgment without clear evaluation - in many posts on the forum. This works in the army (and yet I am not even sure it is the best there) but not elsewhere. One has to see their own biaises - everyone around will then be better off to live their live to their full potential, including wife, kids and horses.

Some here have done the same to me in the past, amongst other Carmody who pointed at my victim attitude - and he was right. No worthwhile creation with this attitude and the fear it promotes if not changed. I now thank him for this.

Target has some real good points many times but for god sake, couldn't he see this blatant "red neck bravado" he seems often prone so show if reacting quickly? He shoots fast targets that were innocent with his words and prejudices. In other words, he is big enough to take what I say and hopefully wise enough to slowly think about it.

And, Sierra, I am no more righteous right now than he is on average.

Love to both of you, and even to Target.



very interesting

and sadly, I expected the reactions you had to my last post
My focus was to offer information rather than debate Target’s post. My reaction and understanding to his post is like others on the forum and in life. Generally speaking, it’s either a perspective I don’t resonate with or I chalked it up to youth or a moment of stupidity or too quick with a comment before thinking or cursory read to a thread or others drool at the chance to go poke-poke and debate and lastly, I chalk it up to some wear a bravado hat on a particular day.

Oh, I forgot…one more…there are the ones where I want to loan them my gone fishin’ sign.

Flash, I didn’t want to slam you with videos and books. The book I suggested above has before and after photos of men and women and accounts of how they’ve struggled their whole lives. And it covers how along with 30 minutes a day of gentle movement, it’s the elimination of the simple sugars and fats from diary, fish and meats that’ve changed lives. It’s cured and/or reversed the effects obesity, diabetes, heart disease, or arthritis, gallbladder disease, constipation, indigestion, multiple sclerosis and cancers of the breast, prostate, and colon. (to name a few)

[Flash]

Good Morning Village!

I really want everyone here to know the appreciation :bearhug: I have for all of you! :heart: It was a tough summer for me. I am beginning to feel better, I am healing.

I have lost my sister, and my parents, but the sadness and grief of the loss of my son Kyle was overwhelming. I asked the village to support me the day of the memorial service. I didn't know how I was going to get through the day. My granddaughter, Kyle's daughter, made me hold her throughout the visitation and service. Holding and comforting a child, helped me keep my grace about me. :heart: The support and prayers of everyone on this thread helped me get through the day. I also want to thank everyone who sent me supportive private messages.

The Village is a wonderful place. Lots of healing, laughter, sorrow, etc.. Is shared on this thread and we all have been here to support each other! This has always been my favorite place on Avalon.

I Love You All! :heart:

-jean-marie


Jean-Marie, try as I might, I’m at lost for word that express how I feel for what you are going through with the different stage of grief, pain and sorrow. You come into my thoughts every day.

All my life, I’ve changed what needed changing. When my son passed change what needed changing was impossible. Until that point, patience and acceptance wasn’t part of my skill set. Damn acceptance took a while. The way I see it, life’s a breeze because nothing I face will ever be as painful.

Love and blessings, Jean-Marie. :heart:

I agree with the above Jean-Marie and has thought of you all these days, and a lot on that Satuday. I am without words as well..... and I know I do not know what you are going through. All my love and support, as much as I can.


edit: obese vs prejudices seems so trivial when we understand a tiny bit what you are going through. Much love

[ulli]

If anyone sets standards re political correctness around here it should be either the mods, or myself.
Target the Redneck?? Whats with that??

So Flash has chosen to bring a battle axe to our peaceful Village, and I do not approve.
She may not be aware of this, but my inner Redneck got hurt.

[RunningDeer]

I know your initent was fine Paula and I know your information was right. The difference with me, today, is that I have undertaken not to shuffle such comments under the carpet anymore and go fishing.

It’s not about shuffling comments under the carpet. To clarify, I go fishin’ when my feelings and perspectives are out of whack. I step away because don’t want to infect others with the energy.

I’m sure there are people out there that need someone to point things out. My belief is that anyone with a modicum of inner awareness can hear the words they write and make a decision to at least begin to make small changes in dialogue and/or life choices.

At the risk of repeating myself, I believe when people are ready, they’ll grow into more inward empowerment and change what needs changing not tomorrow, not on the beginning of the new years day, not after summer vacation. Now. Change what keeps one locked in prison mode. Listen to inner dialogue that holds one hostage. Often, it’s a minor behavior tweak that’ll open one up to a whole new perspective game.

[lake]

6. taking one's own responsibilities for what is happening around oneself, not only to oneself. Until we reach that step of thinking for the well being of all and acting in consequence, psychopaths will have the game to themselves. Responsibility is one of the main key to unlock the problem.


Whilst getting involved in dramas is not my thing, although I do try?.......I would agree with you Flash that taking one's own responsibilities for what is happening around oneself, not only to oneself is paramount....and is actually regardless of the dilema!

On the same note:


Obesity.

Preservatives.

What is a preservative?

A preservative is a name, nothing more.

It is a way of naming a chemical that kills fungus and mold.

there is only one problem with that. anything that kills fungus and mold, kills anything that is alive. Any living cellular structure that attempts to replicate itself, will be killed by the preservative.

"Preservative" is a polite industry euphemism for 'biocides' and 'fungicides'.

Now, how does your digestive system work?

it works via a giant mess of ...differing living organisms, a living biological stew. This, combined with the more native enzymes and acids, etc..in your stomach, this is what allows you to absorb food, to gain energies from the food. it also allows for proper breakdown.

This means that you CANNOT eat even one single bit of any food that has had any form of 'preservative' applied to it.

If you do, you kill your mix of stomach bugs, and you can no longer process the foods or organic materials you have consumed. And when not properly consumed, your body will turn the residuals into fat, or fight to eliminate the residuals, or turn these improperly broken down materials into some simile of fat. Something that isn't supposed to be stored in the body, will be stored in the body, as it was not properly broken down.

My point is that a notably large part of the obesity issue is tied directly to any form of GMO or preservatives in or on food.

this means not ONE single bit of preserved foods must enter your diet.

the moment you do that, you destroy your digestive enzyme mix,and doom your self to low energy, and obesity, and improper mind and body function.

Clean organic foods ONLY. PERIOD.

Not one single trip to MacDonalds, not one cappuccino smoothie, not one cheap meal, not one hotdog, Not one salami sandwich, not one bit of major brand label slice of bread, Not one can of food, or bag of chips....and so on. Besides the insulin issues, the diet drinks, all of that. All of it has to go. Not even once. For the one single bag of chips, or hotdog, or whatever..it has the preservatives that will kill your digestive enzyme/bug mix that is in your stomach. You'll need to take probiotics to rebuild it, and never step into the area of danger, even once. Otherwise, you have to start all over again.


All that "food", 90% of what is in a supermarket (cereals, peanut butter, any canned food, anything frozen and prepared) has preservatives in or on it. Ninety percent!

Danger. You have to look very closely. Lets say your buy trail mix, to live healthy. Well, if it is not entirely organic, and you have not looked close enough, it has..preservatives in it and on it. To increase it's shelf life.

Any of that, any preservative..which is added to almost everything... has the minimum quadruple effect of making you obese, killing your body, and making you unable to function, and thus...unable think properly, unable to think at any form of a peak intellect.

Your stomach, and how it operates... is your gateway to life.
Obesity-and-food-preservatives (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61235-Obesity-and-food-preservatives)

Which of course is also a responsibility of the self....whether to consume or not?

I drink and smoke....I blame no one else for that, not even this body or any attached entity’s.......It Is My Choice and i can change when I wish it to be.
The body is functioning as I believe it to, my perception.

Any way I now have forgotten what I intended to ask?
Damn those musical escapades dancing within my egotistical mind....

[lake]

Ah....this is what I wanted to say


Right. Good idea.
Chose a third world country, one that has a decent public transport system.
Don't get a car as that would only isolate you from the natives.
Chose one where they speak a language you understand.
Your biggest expense will be your rent ($300, or thereabouts) plus your Internet connection. Your food should be cheap if you stay away from imported goods and shop only in the farmers markets like the locals.
Remember the locals can feed a whole family on less than $400 a month....
If you live near a post office you can become a trader...buy second hand stuff online and sell on your front porch garage
sale style. That will get you to connect with loads of people.
Belize is one such place.
Anywhere in Central America, but knowlege of Spanish would be a must.
You'd be surprised how much people already know about alternative subjects...just need a few more details.
In the end you might find you can learn even more than you wanted to teach.
The poor are artists at survival.

Thanks Ulli.......I want this to be a part of my future plans
Nice post :kiss3:

[TargeT]

Target, there is no relation between intelligence, abilities to think and research, and weight. Period.


Annnd I totally agree with you.... self discipline, discipline in general is why some posts on this forum are great, well researched & presented in a "consumable forum"; I'm sure intelligence plays into that as well.



If you take a look at my posts on this forum, Levity = brevity

I don't put much effort into joking around or half serious comments. It's fun to occasionally dip back into the "left vs right" pool (one I waded in most my life) but over all it's still a pretty useless pursuit & who could pass up a great liberal/snopes tie in?! (apparently not me)


You've really spun this up into something, not sure where your going to go with this now.. so far I'm a racist, a Muslim and some other stuff I didn't bother to remember.




So in this spirit, I would ask you to consider whether you might have fallen into this very trap in this particular case.

Couldn't agree more; .. a statement with less than 50 words in it is hardly something I am committed to or even give a second thought about (I'm, in general, much more verbose than that on any topic worthy of thought).

Do you really think I was making a serious argument/statement at that point?

have you ever seen my "arsenal" (hint: I don't have one), maybe this is just all blown a bit out of proportion?





Yes, weight is the hook for much misognyistic cruelty and bullying that is usually not applied to men, only to women and children.

it may be more ignored, but it's misandristicly used as well... & is present in nearly every move you've ever seen... in fact I'd say men/fat shaming is so widely accepted it's not even seen anymore.

Remember this guy:


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pHHZBmF8mk4/hqdefault.jpg


This is what he normally looks like:

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c7/c703787903938a3b75da6de861b41ccbda4c5964909ac34b9829404e09121b06.jpg

But that doesn't fit the super common steriotype... does it?




In other words, he is big enough to take what I say and hopefully wise enough to slowly think about it.


not sure about the second part, time will tell.

Definitely the first part... words on a screen that I choose to read have only the power over me that I give them.



Target the Redneck?? .

I've gained so many titles in the past few hours... this is more attention than I've had in years!



Ah....this is what I wanted to say


Right. Good idea.
Chose a third world country, one that has a decent public transport system.
Don't get a car as that would only isolate you from the natives.
Chose one where they speak a language you understand.
Your biggest expense will be your rent ($300, or thereabouts) plus your Internet connection. Your food should be cheap if you stay away from imported goods and shop only in the farmers markets like the locals.
Remember the locals can feed a whole family on less than $400 a month....
If you live near a post office you can become a trader...buy second hand stuff online and sell on your front porch garage
sale style. That will get you to connect with loads of people.
Belize is one such place.
Anywhere in Central America, but knowlege of Spanish would be a must.
You'd be surprised how much people already know about alternative subjects...just need a few more details.
In the end you might find you can learn even more than you wanted to teach.
The poor are artists at survival.

Thanks Ulli.......I want this to be a part of my future plans
Nice post :kiss3:

I found this to be true in the USVI as well (I'd say we are a hairsbreadth from 3rd world here).. The "bush men" are some of my favorite guys to talk to.. always super positive and can point out a million uses for the stuff that I see as "trash plants".

My yard was PACKED with what I thought were very annoying weeds that were killing anything below them.. I was ripping them out by the root and stacking them (had a nice 4ft tall stack going) when one of these guys came by to get his weekly "fertilizer" (we pile our horse manure in the corner of our yard and I've offered it up to the local farmers... I can get quite a bit out of 22 horses) and he asked what I was doing with all that Callaloo.
http://blogs.nybg.org/science-talk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Callaloo1.jpg
I said... "Calla what? I'm just pulling weeds."

He took everything in my yard and helped me pull the rest, the next day he came over with a pretty damn tasty soup for me to try:
https://www.davidrosengarten.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Callaloo-recipe-west-indian.jpg


I imagine he had enough to make a TON of soup... now I'm cultivating this "weed" in a corner of my yard :)

[lake]

This one may escape any time it desires to, for it knows the way.


Hello mate, just wondering....is this on the correct path?


Now, like the rainbow of light that spreads from the prism when illuminated, this zone of 'multiple energies'... this rolling band of lensed and shifted energies called the edge of dawn, the window or door in and out of this place could be considered to be the edge of the rolling moving dawn light. Note the prominence of it in the vast majority of ancient religions and secret societies.

Is the power of entry or exit, the revolving door, is that the dawn? Biblically speaking...(there are obviously other interpretations) Lucifer's controlled doorway/access and effect?

And no I didn't have knowledge of an anti-proton sphere surrounding Terra!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14405122

Interesting thread though. Ta

[lake]

And while I am on a posting frenzy, I may as well ask if any of you nice folk could inform me as to why children see me as purple?
As for at least the last 20 years I have had parents come up to me and apologize for their children staring but that their kids have asked them why is that man purple?
The adults are always laughing about it....but the kids mean it!

So do any of you know why I would be seen as purple?

Thanks.......I hope

[Ernie Nemeth]

There is a person here whom I see occasionally in the downtown core. Every time I see him I am startled by the color of his skin. It is purple. When I look back he is just normally dark black. I know people darker and I never see purple with them...don't know what it means - I place it in the strange column with various possible explanations.

[TargeT]

And while I am on a posting frenzy, I may as well ask if any of you nice folk could inform me as to why children see me as purple?
As for at least the last 20 years I have had parents come up to me and apologize for their children staring but that their kids have asked them why is that man purple?
The adults are always laughing about it....but the kids mean it!

So do any of you know why I would be seen as purple?

Thanks.......I hope

Highest color in the spectrum of visible light, "royal purple" is often hijacked by monarchs to lend them credibility etc.. lots of spiritual mumbojumbo out there on this topic... I'd imagine there's some validity to it if only because of the "royal" connection (those bastards used every trick in the book to stay in power; alternate knowledge included).

[Sophocles]

Regarding the "royal purple"...


Tyrian purple (aka Royal purple or Imperial purple) is a dye extracted from the murex shellfish which was first produced by the Phoenician city of Tyre in the Bronze Age. Its difficulty of manufacture, striking purple to red colour range, and resistance to fading made clothing dyed using Tyrian purple highly desirable and expensive. The Phoenicians gained great fame as sellers of purple and exported its manufacture to its colonies, notably Carthage, from where it spread in popularity and was adopted by the Romans as a symbol of imperial authority and status.

http://www.ancient.eu/Tyrian_Purple/

[RunningDeer]

And while I am on a posting frenzy, I may as well ask if any of you nice folk could inform me as to why children see me as purple?
As for at least the last 20 years I have had parents come up to me and apologize for their children staring but that their kids have asked them why is that man purple?
The adults are always laughing about it....but the kids mean it!

So do any of you know why I would be seen as purple?

Thanks.......I hope

What initially came to mind is that kids are open to seeing. Several times, I caught sight of the same person's purple aura. It was easier to see when the body was in sunlight.

[Dianamar]

Thank you Target for the confirmation, moving to a nice place coincided with a weight loss. So for you, what was the significant difference in places and how did it manifest in your happiness ? ie. what made you happy about your new surroundings ?

What i'd noticed about my situation is that when the diets didn't work i realised it had to be something else. I worried for a while i may have an illness but all that was detected were hormonal imbalances. Had i have left those imbalances unchecked it would have lead to more physical problems i'm sure.
When i boiled it down i relaised one thing, one contributing factor. My Ego ! when i had to make that decision about leaving work i found my self contemplating not being able to make as much money as men ! not being able to beat competing companies for contracts ! I wanted to win and my work was feeding that animal... It was a hard pill to swallow, but then i asked my self the question, Was I Happy ? and other than feeding fleeting ego bliss bombs, i had to admit to my self... No ... i was actually miserable.

I see now that was the hardest realisation to come to. It took sitting down for a month eating chocolate and watching bad tv shows to realise it ! I remember having moments of extreme boredom where my mind would wander... and small pieces of the puzzle came together, had i not had the courage to listen to that tiny little voice back there, i would not have had the courage to break the cage i'd made my self.

Truth is change takes courage and it often feels wrong, it feels like you're going against the grain, against everything you have " ACCUMULATED " but the words of a funny little man with a strange name told me to just follow my joy and i went for it and never looked back.
How unlikely is that for an organised career girl ? TOTALLY ! So diet imo is secondary to happiness, i think that's why some diets say Eat what you want ! this kind of relieves the emotional pressure of denying what you love, adding to the guilt and stress of dieting.

Its good to eat good foods but it wouldn't exist here if it wasn't necessary on some level.

I'm not a skinny mini nor do i have any dislike for skinny women, i feel good being a voluptuous woman, i look and feel good ( if i may say so ) I am happy as me. This is in part a plus for the spiritual " gurus " out there, a lot of them are a bit nutty and some are for want of a better word " full of it " but some are genuinely concerned and just do what feels natural to them. Its up to us to discern the advice and at least have the courage to try.

I took a big risk, and i lost a lot, but i gained so much more than what i could have imagined.

[Dianamar]

6. taking one's own responsibilities for what is happening around oneself, not only to oneself. Until we reach that step of thinking for the well being of all and acting in consequence, psychopaths will have the game to themselves. Responsibility is one of the main key to unlock the problem.


Whilst getting involved in dramas is not my thing, although I do try?.......I would agree with you Flash that taking one's own responsibilities for what is happening around oneself, not only to oneself is paramount....and is actually regardless of the dilema!

On the same note:


Obesity.

Preservatives.

What is a preservative?

A preservative is a name, nothing more.

It is a way of naming a chemical that kills fungus and mold.

there is only one problem with that. anything that kills fungus and mold, kills anything that is alive. Any living cellular structure that attempts to replicate itself, will be killed by the preservative.

"Preservative" is a polite industry euphemism for 'biocides' and 'fungicides'.

Now, how does your digestive system work?

it works via a giant mess of ...differing living organisms, a living biological stew. This, combined with the more native enzymes and acids, etc..in your stomach, this is what allows you to absorb food, to gain energies from the food. it also allows for proper breakdown.

This means that you CANNOT eat even one single bit of any food that has had any form of 'preservative' applied to it.

If you do, you kill your mix of stomach bugs, and you can no longer process the foods or organic materials you have consumed. And when not properly consumed, your body will turn the residuals into fat, or fight to eliminate the residuals, or turn these improperly broken down materials into some simile of fat. Something that isn't supposed to be stored in the body, will be stored in the body, as it was not properly broken down.

My point is that a notably large part of the obesity issue is tied directly to any form of GMO or preservatives in or on food.

this means not ONE single bit of preserved foods must enter your diet.

the moment you do that, you destroy your digestive enzyme mix,and doom your self to low energy, and obesity, and improper mind and body function.

Clean organic foods ONLY. PERIOD.

Not one single trip to MacDonalds, not one cappuccino smoothie, not one cheap meal, not one hotdog, Not one salami sandwich, not one bit of major brand label slice of bread, Not one can of food, or bag of chips....and so on. Besides the insulin issues, the diet drinks, all of that. All of it has to go. Not even once. For the one single bag of chips, or hotdog, or whatever..it has the preservatives that will kill your digestive enzyme/bug mix that is in your stomach. You'll need to take probiotics to rebuild it, and never step into the area of danger, even once. Otherwise, you have to start all over again.


All that "food", 90% of what is in a supermarket (cereals, peanut butter, any canned food, anything frozen and prepared) has preservatives in or on it. Ninety percent!

Danger. You have to look very closely. Lets say your buy trail mix, to live healthy. Well, if it is not entirely organic, and you have not looked close enough, it has..preservatives in it and on it. To increase it's shelf life.

Any of that, any preservative..which is added to almost everything... has the minimum quadruple effect of making you obese, killing your body, and making you unable to function, and thus...unable think properly, unable to think at any form of a peak intellect.

Your stomach, and how it operates... is your gateway to life.
Obesity-and-food-preservatives (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61235-Obesity-and-food-preservatives)

Which of course is also a responsibility of the self....whether to consume or not?

I drink and smoke....I blame no one else for that, not even this body or any attached entity’s.......It Is My Choice and i can change when I wish it to be.
The body is functioning as I believe it to, my perception.

Any way I now have forgotten what I intended to ask?
Damn those musical escapades dancing within my egotistical mind....

Actually smoking, in moderation, can be very good for you. Did you know that pure tobacco is very high in vitamin B, and breathing it in through the lungs is actually very good for you ( in moderation ). Its normally the paper the tobacco is wrapped in that's bad for you.

I believe also one of the oldest men on earth drank rice wine daily. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen now i know its wiki... however interesting none the less. He also did Chi Gung ( not sure if that's right ) that's a spiritual kind of breathing exercise.

[Dianamar]

I appreciate Running Deer bringing the post and this is not really about her ( speaking directly now ) I can see somewhere in your life you have been challenged by the " circus " and i feel for you, i hope you don't give up because this is the test.

Thanks, Dianamar, and a belated welcome to Avalon. :wave:

Naw. Giving up is not my style. If I’m down, it’s not for long. When I signed on to this experience, I brought my secret weapon.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/Energizer-Bunny_zpsnewh5vov.JPG


Thats cool. I hear you..

...but i don't regard life as a "test" . I believe thats just another meme, or program if you will. So are ideas of "passing" and "failing".

Spiritual advancement, like most things, means different things to different people. One persons ascension is another persons hell.

Atheist? I dont think so. His ideas just go far beyond an old man in the sky with a really good beard.

Speaking of memes and ‘isms’…here’s what Doug Michael points out, including atheists. If you are short on time, the first 7-8 minutes is power packed.


A World without “God"
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I like this video, it really hits some strong points.

I wonder was the Introduction of a God done for good reasons ? but as usual taken off on a corrupt tangent as we humans do ? Lets face it, the better isms of religion are never adhered to.

Did war exist before Christ and the idea of One God ? Yes. Actually the world was continually at war if we are to believe historical archives. So what was the motivation ? i'd say the same as today, to expand on ACCUMULATION of land and wealth, then and now using the excuse of it being done in the name of God but really it had little to do with God at all... if wealth and power were not the result of wars in the name of God, war wouldn't exist.

So in the middle east we look at the muslims as being extremist for killing in the name of allah but do we look at the reaction as opposed to the cause ? Yes, we rarely look at the cause and that is the root of the problem is it not ? They kill in the name of allah because they call on the strength of their god to give them power to fight their oppressors.

When i train at the gym i call on the power of my god Kurt Cobain and in my head phones he screams at me with relentless grungy guitars and in turn that makes me upset ! and the energy of that upset gives me the power to finish my tread mill and go to boot camp !

Without the extra pounds i would have no reason to be there ... Without the Oil the middle east would be a peaceful place. With what those poor people have been put through for Oil and retaliate in the name of allah... what else can they call on to avenge the deaths of their children , mothers and fathers ?

So in essence the video is right but it's flawed as well. Is there a god ? i don't know, but i have experienced things i can't explain so i'm happy to let him take the blame. Yes we do blame god but is god to blame or what we think he/she/it, is and responsible for, to blame ? what i think is to blame is the tangent we have a good idea and turned it into an excuse as the video states, i think that's the best part of it. But is the video now blaming god for not researching history and realising that wars existed for thousands of years before the introduction of Christ ? and does it take into account that after Christ wars decreased a little...

Maybe we just didn't fear him enough ? or the fear wore off and the real reason behind war was revealed.

[RunningDeer]

I believe also one of the oldest men on earth drank rice wine daily. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen now i know its wiki... however interesting none the less. He also did Chi Gung ( not sure if that's right ) that's a spiritual kind of breathing exercise.

There are several spellings for Qigong which is similar to Tai Chi:

What is Qigong?

Qigong (alternatively spelled chi gung or chi kung) is a form of gentle exercise composed of movements that are repeated a number of times, often stretching the body, increasing fluid movement (blood, synovial and lymph) and building awareness of how the body moves through space.

When you practice and learn a qigong exercise movement, there are both external movements and internal movements. These internal movements or flows in China are called neigong or "internal power". These internal neigong movements make qigong a superior health and wellness practice.
The internal movements also differentiate qigong from almost every other form of exercise in the West that often emphasizes prolonged cardiovascular movements (such as in running and biking) or that focus on muscular strength training (weight lifting).

[continued here (http://www.energyarts.com/what-qigong)]

[ulli]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ0rJx9l4qE

Thirteen year old physicist talks about God

[Orph]

Tension everywhere seem to be much higher than normal. Not only here on this thread, but other threads as well. I also notice it in my everyday life. More and more people have shorter and shorter fuses. Including me. We're living in very trying and chaotic times. Maybe we all need to take a few more deep breaths during our day. Every day.
:sun:

[TargeT]

well first off, let me say; Your story has a lot of parallels to mine (I suppose that shouldn't be too surprising given the competitive nature of professional work).


Thank you Target for the confirmation, moving to a nice place coincided with a weight loss. So for you, what was the significant difference in places and how did it manifest in your happiness ? ie. what made you happy about your new surroundings ?

ahh, well significant difference in places.. heh

In January of 2012, with my truck and family fully packed and ready to move out of Wasilla Alaska to Ogden Utah (blah) for a significant career advancement I received a call back on a random job I had Applied for among the slew of others, (at this point I had been in alaska for 13 years, I was done; I literally applied all over the world for jobs) a job offer in the US virgin Islands.

It was a step backwards as far as "careers".

If you google the USVI, St Croix: you might find that the USVI has the 3rd highest murder rate in the world (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12037479/Mapped-Which-countries-have-the-highest-murder-rates.html), the average income is $24,704 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands) (was imo.....)

or that the main revenue for the islands, Hovenza which was the 4th largest oil refinery in the world (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovensa) (at the time), had just shut down.

Before that Day I knew nothing about the USVI, I vaguely thought it was an island in the florida keys, perhaps. (which I still thought, for a surprisingly long time... haha).

I asked my boss at the time, a crusty old CW4 (Chief Warrant Officer 4.. warrant officers are the subject matter experts of their field.. aka mentors, if they are good) that had served over 28 years in the signal field, a very wise man in many ways.

He flippantly said "well, you were looking for a job when you got that one, right? If you don't like it, you could do that again".

I was speechless.. that's,, that's not what you do, you go for the advancement.. don't you?


What i'd noticed about my situation is that when the diets didn't work i realised it had to be something else. I worried for a while i may have an illness but all that was detected were hormonal imbalances. Had i have left those imbalances unchecked it would have lead to more physical problems i'm sure.
I worried about TBI (which causes hormonal imbalance), I had my blood levels tested... they were basically "ok"



When i boiled it down i relaised one thing, one contributing factor. My Ego ! when i had to make that decision about leaving work i found my self contemplating not being able to make as much money as men ! not being able to beat competing companies for contracts ! I wanted to win and my work was feeding that animal... It was a hard pill to swallow, but then i asked my self the question, Was I Happy ? and other than feeding fleeting ego bliss bombs, i had to admit to my self... No ... i was actually miserable.

I never made it to that point, at the time. I wish I had.


I see now that was the hardest realisation to come to. It took sitting down for a month eating chocolate and watching bad tv shows to realise it ! I remember having moments of extreme boredom where my mind would wander... and small pieces of the puzzle came together, had i not had the courage to listen to that tiny little voice back there, i would not have had the courage to break the cage i'd made my self.

Truth is change takes courage and it often feels wrong, it feels like you're going against the grain, against everything you have " ACCUMULATED " but the words of a funny little man with a strange name told me to just follow my joy and i went for it and never looked back.
How unlikely is that for an organised career girl ? TOTALLY ! So diet imo is secondary to happiness, i think that's why some diets say Eat what you want ! this kind of relieves the emotional pressure of denying what you love, adding to the guilt and stress of dieting.

I haven't tied the two together, but I think you may be very right.


Its good to eat good foods but it wouldn't exist here if it wasn't necessary on some level.

I follow my cravings now, but don't eat the "expected volume" for a "big guy" I eat out far too much ( no, I don't... I love it!) and consider myself a "foodie".. Luckily "farm to table" is super popular here and the food is amazing. I rarely finish most of what they put in font of me and sometimes my pig gets amazing leftovers.


I'm not a skinny mini nor do i have any dislike for skinny women, i feel good being a voluptuous woman, i look and feel good ( if i may say so ) I am happy as me. This is in part a plus for the spiritual " gurus " out there, a lot of them are a bit nutty and some are for want of a better word " full of it " but some are genuinely concerned and just do what feels natural to them. Its up to us to discern the advice and at least have the courage to try.

I took a big risk, and i lost a lot, but i gained so much more than what i could have imagined.

I couldn't agree more, at times it seems so strange; but I've used it to pattern a lot more of my life. I act by instinct a lot now; it's working out amazingly.

[Calz]

Huh ... all dat?


What happened to a few tunes here???



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDvtezVJFE

[TargeT]

Uhh,,,

TAKE

MY

MONEY!

WbMV9qYIXqM

[RunningDeer]

Hodgepodge post:

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/director_zps0cwtxixq.GIF A shout out and a hug to Calzie. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-hugs-765537_zpso1eaenyy.gif



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After a visit with a sister #4 today, I lie down for a quick nap and woke up to nighttime 4 1/2 hours later.



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http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/ego_zpsq91g0w2j.JPG

13 year old, Richard Greene rocks.:thumb:
Enjoy your evening, All. :heart:


What happened to a few tunes here???

[ulli]

One day rock 'n' roll won't even have it's geriatric stars any longer. End of an epoch.
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*hJ5B9DSoE6JkJfrJN1BW2A.jpeg

Can't get the image to show.
So, here is the rest of the article.
https://theringer.com/oldchella-desert-trip-music-industry-d503d2fad3a8#.8zd3py11e

Quote from the article:

" Two football stadiums’ worth of people are splurging more than $150 million to stand in a field and listen to septuagenarians sing 50-year-old songs."

[Carmody]

6. taking one's own responsibilities for what is happening around oneself, not only to oneself. Until we reach that step of thinking for the well being of all and acting in consequence, psychopaths will have the game to themselves. Responsibility is one of the main key to unlock the problem.


Whilst getting involved in dramas is not my thing, although I do try?.......I would agree with you Flash that taking one's own responsibilities for what is happening around oneself, not only to oneself is paramount....and is actually regardless of the dilema!

On the same note:


Obesity.

Preservatives.

What is a preservative?

A preservative is a name, nothing more.

It is a way of naming a chemical that kills fungus and mold.

there is only one problem with that. anything that kills fungus and mold, kills anything that is alive. Any living cellular structure that attempts to replicate itself, will be killed by the preservative.

"Preservative" is a polite industry euphemism for 'biocides' and 'fungicides'.

Now, how does your digestive system work?

it works via a giant mess of ...differing living organisms, a living biological stew. This, combined with the more native enzymes and acids, etc..in your stomach, this is what allows you to absorb food, to gain energies from the food. it also allows for proper breakdown.

This means that you CANNOT eat even one single bit of any food that has had any form of 'preservative' applied to it.

If you do, you kill your mix of stomach bugs, and you can no longer process the foods or organic materials you have consumed. And when not properly consumed, your body will turn the residuals into fat, or fight to eliminate the residuals, or turn these improperly broken down materials into some simile of fat. Something that isn't supposed to be stored in the body, will be stored in the body, as it was not properly broken down.

My point is that a notably large part of the obesity issue is tied directly to any form of GMO or preservatives in or on food.

this means not ONE single bit of preserved foods must enter your diet.

the moment you do that, you destroy your digestive enzyme mix,and doom your self to low energy, and obesity, and improper mind and body function.

Clean organic foods ONLY. PERIOD.

Not one single trip to MacDonalds, not one cappuccino smoothie, not one cheap meal, not one hotdog, Not one salami sandwich, not one bit of major brand label slice of bread, Not one can of food, or bag of chips....and so on. Besides the insulin issues, the diet drinks, all of that. All of it has to go. Not even once. For the one single bag of chips, or hotdog, or whatever..it has the preservatives that will kill your digestive enzyme/bug mix that is in your stomach. You'll need to take probiotics to rebuild it, and never step into the area of danger, even once. Otherwise, you have to start all over again.


All that "food", 90% of what is in a supermarket (cereals, peanut butter, any canned food, anything frozen and prepared) has preservatives in or on it. Ninety percent!

Danger. You have to look very closely. Lets say your buy trail mix, to live healthy. Well, if it is not entirely organic, and you have not looked close enough, it has..preservatives in it and on it. To increase it's shelf life.

Any of that, any preservative..which is added to almost everything... has the minimum quadruple effect of making you obese, killing your body, and making you unable to function, and thus...unable think properly, unable to think at any form of a peak intellect.

Your stomach, and how it operates... is your gateway to life.
Obesity-and-food-preservatives (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61235-Obesity-and-food-preservatives)

Which of course is also a responsibility of the self....whether to consume or not?

I drink and smoke....I blame no one else for that, not even this body or any attached entity’s.......It Is My Choice and i can change when I wish it to be.
The body is functioning as I believe it to, my perception.

Any way I now have forgotten what I intended to ask?
Damn those musical escapades dancing within my egotistical mind....

I nearly found myself eating a cookie while reading that. Instead I switched to a Costa Rican banana. I find the Costa Rican ones taste better than the Colombian or Guatemalan ones.

I still want that cookie, though.

[zen deik]

Laying down for the night, got one more day of work in the morning, wife milling around the kitchen.... Still raining in Texas

[ulli]

https://www.theguardian.com/culture-professionals-network/2016/mar/17/making-activity-transforms-connects-empowers

Been making stuff again. It does help body, heart, mind, spirit and soul to be creative.

https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14107671_1002402379885592_6863525709630270681_o.jpg

[ulli]

In case there are others who don't know the difference yet.....
https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14089219_10153647880631891_2290153757520117911_n.jpg?oh=80337474a7e242bcda7fe2305204e8e5&oe=5847668A

[lake]

personally I do not wish to save the english language!

i would vastly prefer for this babel to be deconstructed and cease being formed! Its use is a form of slavery!
Sounds form and we use sounds in the incorrect manner but that is no surprise when the same sound has many meanings?

Do you actually know what you say? praise, prase, prays, preys

Honomyms (http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/gswithenbank/homonyms.htm#A)

Multinyms (http://people.sc.fsu.edu/~jburkardt/fun/wordplay/multinyms.html)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Off to see my favorite band , Black Sabbath!

God is Dead, tour. How apropos is that?

[petra]

Do you actually know what you say? praise, prase, prays, preys


Here and now... laughing so much at lake's comment that I am almost bursting into tears... :P :)

[ulli]

personally I do not wish to save the english language!

i would vastly prefer for this babel to be deconstructed and cease being formed! Its use is a form of slavery!
Sounds form and we use sounds in the incorrect manner but that is no surprise when the same sound has many meanings?

Do you actually know what you say? praise, prase, prays, preys

Honomyms (http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/gswithenbank/homonyms.htm#A)

Multinyms (http://people.sc.fsu.edu/~jburkardt/fun/wordplay/multinyms.html)

When I started learning English at age ten we were given lots of cool stories.
So all the silly rules were just picked up conversationally.
No boring charts to study, or I would never have made it past 6 th grade.
I was lucky in that I loved all my English teachers.


If you want to learn how to speak with an upper class accent, like the royalty Brits, repeat after me these three words
Air hair lair,
And again:
Air hair lair.
And again, faster now:
AIR HAIR LAIR

And finally one more time, raising the voice at the end, like a question
AIR HAIR LAIR?
Get it?

[TargeT]

AIR HAIR LAIR?
Get it?

a slightly surprised, extremely intoxicated person with an east Asia accent?

"ah, hi there?"

(that's what I hear anyway... )

[ulli]

AIR HAIR LAIR?
Get it?

a slightly surprised, extremely intoxicated person with an east Asia accent?

"ah, hi there?"

(that's what I hear anyway... )
The east Asians would have picked up that accent from the upper class colonialists, anyway.
Same with Caribbean islanders...all sound rather posh.
It is supposed to mean "Oh, hello!"
Breezy, like you're in a hurry, can't stop...frightfully busy!!!

[RunningDeer]

Wisdom Nuggets, by: Doug Michael
[article (http://www.dougmichaeltruth.com/wisdom-nuggets/)]

Snippets:

- Happiness is not something you find or pursue; it is something that is created from within.

- Honor diversity. Celebrate uniqueness and individualism. Cherish the beauty in selfhood and respect everyone’s right to be a self. Reject collectivism and the erroneous belief in authority.

- My education began once I finished school and began to unlearn everything the establishment taught me. There are two types of education; the one we receive from the system and the one we give to ourselves. Which do you think is more valuable?


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/garbagetruckpoliticians_zpsze2sbxwz.JPG

- Those who have extinguished the light within themselves often live to extinguish yours. Hold compassion for the self-murdered yet do not allow them to destroy what you have cultivated within yourself. Sometimes compassion involves allowing someone to dwell within their self-created prison but also having enough compassion for yourself to not allow it to affect you negatively.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/self-awareness-involution_zpsfreafipc.JPG

- The greatest threat to the establishment today is the person who can think independently and maintains the ability to continuously scrutinize what they think they know. The challenger of conventional thought, the critical thinker, the man or woman of ideas is the enemy, the one who walks alone.

She will not join, she will not conform, she will not waver. She has detached from the herd. The free thinker is perceived as the dangerous one. His ideas are a danger to the system, to his peers and to the rigid confines of ego centered consciousness. He is a rebel in the truest sense. He/she is the sane amongst the unsane, the one whose guidance comes only from within. Think for yourself and watch the lie become dust beneath your feet!


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/warriorsconfrontevil_zps0dn0xeao.JPG

- You have been trained your whole life to silence your inner voice. You have been conditioned to distrust your own inherent intelligence, to externalize to find that which can only be found within. You have been hypnotized to beLIEve that you are only the thinker, not the perceiver, that you are powerless, weak and small. The lies must be put to rest, and you must stand within your own magnificence if you are ever to affect change in your life and in the world.

♡

[dan33]

:highfive:

http://gloriousnoise.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Viva-Roxy-Music.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L2e9acreKmQ/maxresdefault.jpg

SOUL CAST to Play on Earth. :clapping:
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[TargeT]

Meet modern dance:

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I don't even know what to say, that was amazing.

[Chester]

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why not

[RunningDeer]

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/blue-jay_zps8nsl9vvl.JPG

First sign of the changing season. On my deck was a molting, immature Blue Jay. He nervously fed on the seeds while teaming up with a mourning dove and a sparrow for watch duty.

Blue Jays head back this way in the fall. Fifteen to twenty of them compete for the birdseed on my deck throughout the winter months. Sometimes I get judgy with their aggressive and non-sharing behavior. Nature's a great reminder for me to hear those silly thoughts that tweet in me noggin.

Info tidbits (https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Blue_Jay/lifehistory):



Blue Jays are known for their intelligence and complex social systems, and have tight family bonds. They often mate for life, remaining with their social mate throughout the year.

Sometimes Blue Jays mimic hawks when approaching feeders. This may deceive other birds into scattering, allowing the Blue Jay to take over the feeder, but most birds quickly return after the jay starts feeding.

The oldest known wild, banded Blue Jay was at least 17 years, 6 months old when it was recaptured and rereleased during banding operations in Ohio.



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And here’s this graphic I grabbed last evening…


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/caged_zpsk5n4tnf0.JPG

[lake]

Cant find a correct place for this but it is here and now for me....so

Fred Dibnah.

He was a steeplejack and health and safely would have kittens with his work today. I just watched the vids im going to post and was for the greater part open mouthed.......absolutely stunning!
We think now that some people have nerves of steel but for this man....this was his normal work!!

First one.......climbing a chimney at over the age of 50

Fred Dibnah How to climb a chimney overhang at 50+

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The shocking thing though is that HE put those ladders there!!
(the following is how you put ladders onto these 200-300+ foot stacks....no safety ropes, nothing and when he says drill holes.......he means with a hammer and chisel)

Fred Dibnah laddering a chimney (Part 1)

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Fred Dibnah laddering a chimney (Part 2)

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Then to top it all....how to put the wooden scaffold AROUND the chimney stack.......then just stroll around it working away as if your stood on the ground!

Fred Dibnah How to erect a chimney scaffold

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The guy died in 2006 of lung cancer.

Got to say that many of the comments regarding the vids are very true to my feelings as I watched these.
Amazing bloke.

[lake]

LOL sorry but I have to add this one as well
In this he asks if you would do this job without having a few pints before!!!! lmao

Fred Dibnah How to remove the top of a chimney stack

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Sorry but the bloke would go up a 300 foot near vertical ladder....before he started working and no power tools.......making me feel rather like a girlie ....sorry no offence to anyone but damn.......I cant stop laughing....wonder how the pyramids were built, lol, well it was by blokes like Fred :clapping:

[Chester]

Cristina tells me to listen to this song every morning when I wake up

awzNHuGqoMc

[RunningDeer]

Cristina tells me to listen to this song every morning when I wake up


awzNHuGqoMc

Love me some Tim McGraw. Thanks for that one, SH.

Humble And Kind
by: Tim McGraw

You know there's a light that glows by the front door
Don't forget the key's under the mat
When childhood stars shine,
Always stay humble and kind

Go to church 'cause your mamma says to
Visit grandpa every chance that you can
Won't be wasted time
Always stay humble and kind

Hold the door, say "please", say "thank you"
Don't steal, don't cheat, and don't lie
I know you got mountains to climb
But always stay humble and kind

When the dreams you're dreamin' come to you
When the work you put in is realized
Let yourself feel the pride
But always stay humble and kind

Don't expect a free ride from no one
Don't hold a grudge or a chip and here's why:
Bitterness keeps you from flyin'
Always stay humble and kind

Know the difference between sleeping with someone
And sleeping with someone you love
"I love you" ain't no pick-up line
So always stay humble and kind

Hold the door, say "please", say "thank you"
Don't steal, don't cheat, and don't lie
I know you got mountains to climb
But always stay humble and kind

When those dreams you're dreamin' come to you
When the work you put in is realized
Let yourself feel the pride
But always stay humble and kind

When it's hot, eat a root beer popsicle
Shut off the AC and roll the windows down
Let that summer sun shine
Always stay humble and kind

Don't take for granted the love this life gives you
When you get where you're going don't forget turn back around
And help the next one in line
Always stay humble and kind

Written by Lori Mckenna

[ulli]

https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14192039_10154147629434821_1149251930335758510_n.jpg?oh=eaf9e36491eb2f1635c5bdb2c94b3923&oe=583E10A4

[ulli]

https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13240006_708533585955969_4813554897907777029_n.jpg?oh=40c79d8b5728fabffb2c944b60acf235&oe=583CA745

[RunningDeer]

Not as upbeat and refreshing as Ulli’s last two graphics...
for those on the cusp of asking http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-smiley-with-sign-055883_zpsxnoktfes.GIF of this manufactured reality, here’s a couple visuals.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/follow_zpsrincn2wq.JPG

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/free-range_zpskfxrukxo.JPG

[TargeT]

The dogs....
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The dogs show you, she's pro... haha

[RunningDeer]

Lots of happy clouds; no secrets shared, only smiles today. Smiles and healing that’s lasted long after.

Those with a three day, Labor Day weekend, enjoy and have a restful one. Heck, scratch that...make that everyone.
..................................http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/grouphugg_zps9pad4jjh.GIF


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/happy-clouds1_zpsor5nxtax.JPG

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/happy-clouds2_zpsepqu94ah.jpg


*****

Bob Ross Remixed - Happy Little Clouds
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♡

[ulli]

The Village plays music and Calzie shows up.
I like that.

[Calz]

https://biochemaholic.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/opera_man_bowing_wapdaycom.gif#taking%20a%20bow%20 animated%20364x260



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POaaw_x7gvQ

[RunningDeer]

Jack pot! It’s rare that Lipe Araujo uploads a video. The first I heard was back in July, 2012.

Published on Jul 8, 2012
This video was recorded at village of Paranapiacaba, a very nice and mystical township at São Paulo, Brazil.


Native American Flute by Lipe Araujo
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Published on Sep 2, 2016
Made by Flautas de Bambu (Facebook)


Transversal flute with Shakuhachi scale
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[ulli]

https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14232566_10153659750226891_3073421382642482691_n.jpg?oh=0154f8169979e2021464e076b4d04a8b&oe=583ECE43

[RunningDeer]

Politics, Sheeple, Half-price and Coffee


Politics:


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/politics_zpsvvjmzj2w.JPG


Sheeple:


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/sheeple_zpsrtd3ktg7.JPG


Half-Price:


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/half-price-sale_zpszsdzlo9o.JPG


Me before morning coffee
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[lake]

Can you find anything wrong with this vid?

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[sunpaw]

Not as upbeat and refreshing as Ulli’s last two graphics...
for those on the cusp of asking http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-smiley-with-sign-055883_zpsxnoktfes.GIF of this manufactured reality, here’s a couple visuals.




http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/free-range_zpskfxrukxo.JPG


Regarding content of the collage: the picture at the upper right pictures men at the biggest concentration camp in Germany - Buchenwald.
They were incarcerated, experimented on, tortured, killed, left or forced to die - starved, freezing, ill, exhausted - through 'work' sometimes.
But not as a 'captured work force' - they were NOT slaves.
The men were/are survivors - the photo(s) taken when they were freed. Buchenwald also had a gas chamber - disguised as shower room. Mainly women and children were brought there.
Its a museum, memorial now - piles of luggage, piles of children's shoes..
The dead were cremated - unaware residents of the nearby village noticed the constant smoke. Which in itself is also a testimony to 'noticing and thats just it'

I know the topic on the pic is 'slavery' - I personally think concentration camps and what went on shouldn't be used to make a metaphorical point on how 'we' feel like 'slaves' in our today's society. Because it rather takes lightly what happened to those people - who weren't slaves.
And even for slavery itself - to incline 'we are slaves' - takes that also out of proportion.
Because frankly its a way luxury 'whine' - the person has/had time and the freedom, access, peace even to collect pics without caring much of content/history, made the concentration camp pic 'colored' - so it 'fits', displaying westerners on rush hour or shopping mile - actually ignoring the men displayed only survived rather due to luck only, a bit support/company, to share stale bread to just survive a bit longer - facing unspeakable horrors then again for being alive.
Which is the included in that photo. Men who lost their wives, sisters, mothers, children THERE.
When they were 'freed' the horror and trauma was with them. They weren't bought or captured, housed and fed to work and freed at some point to start a life then.

However the picture rather illustrates what MIGHT be going on: coloring up half-knowledge, if even, maybe 'duping', being unaware or ignoring - so when it happens again, or already has its like the villagers 'noticing and thats it'.
And also sort of taking away from the importance to know, realize - to know about those horrors, of the people those men stand for in this photo.
I am not sure if the survivors and families would agree its taken for that 'meme' - in that very context. With the introduction 'not as refreshing and upbeat' - and this rather because the source of the photo, the historic event (freeing those survivors) already wasn't known (otherwise I guess the whole collage and post would look different).

I personally find it too important to have this photograph used for that context. And every fiber and cell of me is screaming: no.
Because I, myself think and believe they deserve I/we don't mark it as slavery for our mostly safe and peaceful lives. Not even metaphorical for having a 'bed' just of dirty planks (those are 'beds') - no blankets at all, the cloths they 'wear' the ONLY possession and the only 'protection' in cold shanties and also outside - where they shoveled mostly ditches - on gunpoint - to 'bury' the dead. Often shot right there 'just because', or because they were too slow, or they died there from exhaustion, illness. They had NO choice, they were NO slaves.

We have choices. And unless we live in war regions, Syria for instance we are less likely incarcerated 'just because', tortured, starved to death. (so there ARE actually photos like that, taken 'now'. So we can take those too to illustrate our horrible lives(?).)

For the chicken or any animals - they have no choice either, actually. Our dogs walk on leashes, our cats live inside, our horses run, jump as we wish (and are not happy I guess when they 'choose' to do otherwise or kick us off their back.) Wild birds endanger our flights, other wild animals run through property, messing with 'orderly' trash - might as well have some 'population control' (for their benefit of course). Lions are bred to be 'easy targets', being held at bad conditions even till someone wants to shoot them (which often includes more suffering - slow death).

And 'we' have also the choice to 'rise up' and 'free' what is considered 'slavery'.
But in order to do that I guess context is in order - otherwise such an 'illustration' is just tackling a bit with fear (not aware of the actual horror in it) and going to:
'phew, I am not a chicken, I also (still) can buy stuff, aww happy chickens', 'thanks', scrolling on, 'I am good, better'....

So I wanted to outline the context - which I assumed wasn't known - in order 'to have it right'. Which is mainly about the one photograph of the men. I also just took the opportunity to share my thoughts on other content. Its neither directed at the person who created it nor the person bringing it to my and our attention.
Which in all (both) is still good - because it also has opportunity within. For me for instance to connect, to choose to engage, to care - and to wonder were this gets me.

Thank you.

(and just a thought - maybe it can be a topic on its own (?). I am not often 'in here', and didn't mean to interrupt. However I considered the weight of it rather important to just have it slide (hence the screaming of the fibers/cells :silent: ;) )

[RunningDeer]

Which in all (both) is still good - because it also has opportunity within. For me for instance to connect, to choose to engage, to care - and to wonder were this gets me.

Thank you.

(and just a thought - maybe it can be a topic on its own (?). I am not often 'in here', and didn't mean to interrupt. However I considered the weight of it rather important to just have it slide (hence the screaming of the fibers/cells :silent: ;) )

Thanks for your thoughtful POVs, sunpaw. No doubt the written expression has helped release the screaming fibers/cells.

I don’t have a need to create a thread. If my search is correct, you’ve never begun one. I can help with that: How to Start a New Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66104-How-to-Tips-with-Visuals-for-Links-Quotes-Images-etc.&p=911332&viewfull=1#post911332).

♡

[lake]

Sunpaw....I consider you are incorrect.

I do not wish to diminish your considerations nor would I want to upset you.....but
A slave is someone who is controlled by another.

If the beings in the image were not slaves then they would not have been still alive to be photographed. They would have said no, at some point in their incarceration and their life would have probably ended.
By having survived, as you put it, they must have put their fear of death above their tolerance for servitude, else they would have defined the nature of their being by action of non compliance or at the least by attacking (and then probably personally dying) their controllers.
One wonders what other exemptions to personal moral code the 'survivors' had to utilize to gain access to being part of that image?

If one can debase ones self to an extent of 'life' within a forced quarantine, a box, as being acceptable for the time being, whilst around you harm is being issued to others....then I could not recognize you.
Surely death is vastly preferable to the crumbling of one's own moral compass?
Or should one do as one is told in order to 'see' another day?

For me another day is not worth my integrity! But that's me.

Hope I haven't upset you, it was not my intention but my writing skills do not include the empathy I feel, such is babel!

[Ernie Nemeth]

If this wasn't the here and now I'd be all over these comments.

We are slaves of the worst kind - free to believe we are not...

[sunpaw]

Which in all (both) is still good - because it also has opportunity within. For me for instance to connect, to choose to engage, to care - and to wonder were this gets me.

Thank you.

(and just a thought - maybe it can be a topic on its own (?). I am not often 'in here', and didn't mean to interrupt. However I considered the weight of it rather important to just have it slide (hence the screaming of the fibers/cells :silent: ;) )

Thanks for your thoughtful POVs, sunpaw. No doubt the written expression has helped release the screaming fibers/cells.

I don’t have a need to create a thread. If my search is correct, you’ve never begun one. I can help with that: How to Start a New Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66104-How-to-Tips-with-Visuals-for-Links-Quotes-Images-etc.&p=911332&viewfull=1#post911332).

♡

Thank you for the link RunningDeer.

I will think about it. :sun:

[sunpaw]

If this wasn't the here and now I'd be all over these comments.

We are slaves of the worst kind - free to believe we are not...

I'll also consider this as feedback regarding it would benefit being a separate thread. (and I also considered IF I write here - and did. Because one possibility would have been there may be no need for a thread, and also because the 'topic' emerged here. For the possibility to have further comments on this, the 'link to somewhere else' came up. Which I think about at the moment. But please feel free to 'not to wait' :) )

Thank you
:sun:

[sunpaw]

Sunpaw....I consider you are incorrect.

I do not wish to diminish your considerations nor would I want to upset you.....but
A slave is someone who is controlled by another.

If the beings in the image were not slaves then they would not have been still alive to be photographed. They would have said no, at some point in their incarceration and their life would have probably ended.
By having survived, as you put it, they must have put their fear of death above their tolerance for servitude, else they would have defined the nature of their being by action of non compliance or at the least by attacking (and then probably personally dying) their controllers.
One wonders what other exemptions to personal moral code the 'survivors' had to utilize to gain access to being part of that image?

If one can debase ones self to an extent of 'life' within a forced quarantine, a box, as being acceptable for the time being, whilst around you harm is being issued to others....then I could not recognize you.
Surely death is vastly preferable to the crumbling of one's own moral compass?
Or should one do as one is told in order to 'see' another day?

For me another day is not worth my integrity! But that's me.

Hope I haven't upset you, it was not my intention but my writing skills do not include the empathy I feel, such is babel!

For context I'd like to ask you if you were/are aware of what I referred to (?) - to Nazism, Hitler, ... (just for my information, thank you)
I am aware you used a translation tool (thats how I read the explanation.)

[lake]

I am aware of that which you referred to.

Before you start your thread....have you considered past lives?
Do you consider that others may have lived and died in these wars?

Could I have been, in a former incarnation, a POW who collaborated with my masters so as to felicitate my future life?
Could I then have been a POW in the next war who stood firm upon her morals and died attempting to protect someone I had never known?

This is the moral problem. Decide that which you consider correct.......but then you must bet your life on it

[Baby Steps]

Am enjoying Sirius Blacks face moving within the hot embers as he talks to Harry in 'Goblet of fire' while digesting the jerk chicken, coleslaw, sweet potatoes and summer pudding.....

Do I feel like a slave? Yes, for a start what is missing from my life that I keep returning to these silly films. A need for magic folk kinship? A shamaness told me recently that these movies were channelled to J K Rowling as a gift for empowering the awakening younger generation. On hearing this I felt a surge of freedom dawn, it was suddenly ok to like these movies, and then I found myself wondering what is empowering about them? Perhaps the youth are being allowed to embrace their duality, humanity and imagination, see the evil in the world, but be certain that they were on their own right path. A great way for them to gain their freedom...

And also, for me the experience of perhaps being a little too suggestible, yes, guilty of wanting a little too much to believe what a perceived authority figure tells me, without sufficient critical examination....another kind of slave.

Tptb love examples like death camps etc, as there we can have a simple formula to cling to, a definition of slavery, that DISTRACTS us from our own more complex and cushioned version of slavery.

Like in the fifties, when the usa empire was establishing hegemony, the cinemas were filled with sword and sandals dramas like Spartacus, and the masses were shown a great imperial tyranny stereotype, that DISTRACTED them from the nascent tyranny that they were in.

We are slaves. We need to see the bigger picture. We pay interest, both personally and through our taxes on debts that do not exist. That means we toil in our lives to feed resources to an elite that have conjured up false debt in an act worthy of Harry Potter!

There are so many great people, particularly here, who have transcended the slavery and have organised their life to achieve the freedom to pursue exactly what they desire, which generally ends up as altruism and kindness. If I and more of humanity had the gumption to do this the world would transform. Kudos to all who have achieved!

But the slavery has a component that prevents this. Most will not acknowledge that they are in slavery, so they are stuck. Past lives probably play a part, as people at some level remember the horrors and appreciate their current comfort.

We are slaves, because we can create paradise on earth, but certain forces are preventing us, and even stopping us from realising this. I do think we have hit the hundredth monkey and all kinds of things are bubbling up in people's minds. But also, because tptb have 'been here before' the entrapment strategies move forward with the consciousness shifts. Nevertheless I think I hear the roar of a million hooves as an unstoppable stampede is starting, all power to freedom, and hopefully the stampede will have the quality of velvet rather than sans culottes and guillotines

[RunningDeer]

This is my mind set these days....it's all theater. The tickets are expensive, the popcorn is stale and the extra large soda means I'm on frequent bathroom breaks. I stopped playing the game.


*****

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dear_God/tricycle_zpsda4enqlf.JPG


Because one possibility would have been there may be no need for a thread, and also because the 'topic' emerged here.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-hugs-765537_zpso1eaenyy.gif

[ulli]

Aurora spiral over Iceland
https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199240_1758524911095603_1642895947337253147_n.jpg?oh=fec83f399213c3e006e7cd87a15e7013&oe=583E2DCA

[sunpaw]

This is my mind set these days....it's all theater. The tickets are expensive, the popcorn is stale and the extra large soda means I'm on frequent bathroom breaks. I stopped playing the game.


*****

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Dear_God/tricycle_zpsda4enqlf.JPG


Because one possibility would have been there may be no need for a thread, and also because the 'topic' emerged here.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/smileys-hugs-765537_zpso1eaenyy.gif

RunningDeer, thank you for that collage. It felt 'mine' - nice memories, and also connected to yesterday and 'every time'. In a good way.
I thought about it (yesterday's), looked at it from different angles.
And today's collage has how/where I am today.
..for which I didn't actually had my (own) picture yet - and find that a great inspiration. To make such collages - to see and/or tying up otherwise loose ends. For me to see, 'to file'.

You perfectly pictured that.
My passion, my roots, my dreams and my fun/joy.

Thank you for both and everything *bigsmile :hug: :sun:

[RunningDeer]

Sticky Note:

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Sticky%20Notes/question-everything_zpsxbcvqkpo.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Brown Bag:


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Sticky%20Notes/supernatural-is-normal_zpstsprgzzt.jpg

[genevieve]

Good news, Everyone!

My friend Bob continues to recover from what has been
diagnosed as acute myeloid leukemia! :Party:

As would be expected, he has reduced his work schedule,
but he IS back at it as best he can.

Thank you again, and please keep him in your loving thoughts.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[dan33]

:waving: Village

XRDWMSIm4B4

[TargeT]

I've found myself in a new career...

Horse shofer!

http://cdn.webfail.com/upl/img/d0b5cef501e/post2.jpg

[dan33]

:clapping:

http://www.anomalies.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/delorean-time-traveler-374x200_c.jpg

"My initial flight was from 2036 to 1975 (61 yrs). I then went from 1975 to 2000 (25 yrs.) Later this year, one of two favorable windows will open and I will return to my 2036 (35 yrs.) I am here now for personal reasons. The web page is not mine. I have been speaking online for about three months and the page is a collection of the various documents and pictures I have sent to other individuals."
John Titor.

[Stephanie]

Good news, Everyone!

My friend Bob continues to recover from what has been
diagnosed as acute myeloid leukemia! :Party:

As would be expected, he has reduced his work schedule,
but he IS back at it as best he can.

Thank you again, and please keep him in your loving thoughts.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

:heart: Wonderful news, dearest Genevieve and Bob. :heart:

34167

[RunningDeer]

Snapshots:

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/General/iconic-snapshots_zpsn6bbexle.JPG

[ulli]

Listening to this Jordan Maxwell talk.
He is spelling out everything that I have discovered over the decades of studying astrology.
Very, very inspiring, and confirming my own observations about our world and the cosmos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srtYyA8xenk

[TargeT]

Next time the doom and gloom gets you down... Just remember.


This guy exists:

https://i.imgur.com/xTFxQ9E.gifv


no way anything is stopping that...

[meeradas]

Hargh... i just had to

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14183895_10155238996505190_6657952655327958133_n.jpg?oh=9f51e012ad1f55413615456c628a29f3&oe=587D9D3D

PS:
37 bots on board

[lake]

Dark City....close but I considered this to be 'life by life'.......its not is it
its second by second

[transiten]

Listening to this Jordan Maxwell talk.
He is spelling out everything that I have discovered over the decades of studying astrology.
Very, very inspiring, and confirming my own observations about our world and the cosmos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srtYyA8xenk

....but all the signs are not animals...Libra is a balance (scales), Aquarius energy wawes, Gemini two human beings and Sagittarius half man half horse....

....unless he means we humans are actually also animals and that's what he just said...at least that we live like them:( I'm a :dog::heart:er...

I think he is rather depressing and nagging but interesting now and then...I've got Mars square Saturn and Sun conjoining Saturn at the moment and a lot of Chiron transits so....

[Carmody]

They have their animal analogies. For example the Chinese zodiac, is 11 animals and one mythical/mystical creature, the dragon.

All of existence, vibration, frequencies, geometry and all else is relatable to astrology. And vice versa.

And everytin' be everytin'.

[Carmody]

Hargh... i just had to

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14183895_10155238996505190_6657952655327958133_n.jpg?oh=9f51e012ad1f55413615456c628a29f3&oe=587D9D3D

PS:
37 bots on board

Needed the no shirt rule in there as well, and maybe the no shoes one.

[RunningDeer]

corn
spinach
sticky-rice
a smidgen
of Bragg’s ACV

late lunch

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Foods/rice_zpsfsm76jlm.JPG

[Dianamar]

ExukCRD7gN0


and a one and a tew ...

[ulli]

This is a must read, must see, for all.
http://aetherforce.com/kozyrevs-mirrors-bending-time-altering-consciousness/
http://www.rexresearch.com/kaznachv/kaznachv.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXJ3FvUBX4E

[Carmody]

And it's September again.

b3Km9rq1MtM

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks Ulli for the Russian documentary...very enlightening! Talking of the concave mirrors made me think of The Looking Glass. We ARE all a part of the Eternal Consciousness! Had never heard of the Polar "sickness" before! Much food for thought! :facepalm:

[RunningDeer]

This is a must read, must see, for all.
http://aetherforce.com/kozyrevs-mirrors-bending-time-altering-consciousness/
http://www.rexresearch.com/kaznachv/kaznachv.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXJ3FvUBX4E

Listening/reading a long now... Here's a summary of the video, including important questions that the documentary addresses. (Note: the article included the bold sentences.)

FYI: Mirrors – Breaking the Future
(https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/fyi-mirrors-breaking-the-future/)



“Is it possible to achieve altered states of consciousness by means of mirrors and travel in time? The film shows the results of Russian researchers in the field experiments with concave mirrors.”

“…end of 1980 and started experimenting with a mental image transfer over large distances. In the global experiments twelve countries of the world were employed and nearly five thousand participants. The results exceeded all expectations. In most cases up to 95 percent of the telepathic information was received correctly. These results can not be attributed to accidental coincidences … “

UPDATE: Sorry Ulli, I just caught the links you provided with the video.

[ulli]

Thanks Ulli for the Russian documentary...very enlightening! Talking of the concave mirrors made me think of The Looking Glass. We ARE all a part of the Eternal Consciousness! Had never heard of the Polar "sickness" before! Much food for thought! :facepalm:

Yes, long time ago, I read a book ...cant remember the title nor name of the author.
It was about two Danish scientists who went to the north of Greenland in October many years ago, to spend the long winter and record their experience. They were to be collected by a group of other scientist six months later.
Soon after their arrival one of them died of a heart attack.
The other man was now marrooned, and during the long wait for his rescuers he was fighting to not lose his mind.
Since the dead man's body did not decompose in the cold climate he decided a few days after is death to bring him into the tent, for the illusion of company, and sat him upright on a chair where he sat when he had died.
Still, without the rhythm of sunrise and sunset he lost all sense of time, and went quite mad over the six month period alone.

[RunningDeer]

The video reminded me of one summer where each time I stepped into a friend's Native American tent, instantly I became light headed where it was hard to stand up. It was powerful.

One day, I’d like to be able to do that without tools and at will. For now, because of my novice status, I stay grounded. I’m waiting for lighter astral traffic. Though, I do catch myself leaving as I go off to sleep.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/horizontal-mirror_zpsc4gwzhm7.jpg

[Carmody]

Two songs for "kozyrev's mirrors" came to mind:

F1HrO2W6w-4
"I wrote these lyrics in 1978. I am now 69 years old. Thanks to all those who appreciate them!"-Top comment, by Bruce Abbot

and:
l55NbooeUVY

In a purple vision
Many thousand years ago
I saw the silent stranger
Walk the earth alone

Twenty-seven faces
With their eyes turned to the sky
I've got a camera
And an airtight alibi

I know they're out there
We see them coming
Faster than the speed of light
They greet us in the dead of the night

Somewhere, someday, someone
They'll be light and sound
They'll alight on the ground
On which we stand
.........

[RunningDeer]

I checked out one of Shannon’s links (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93182-Is-someone-telling-me-the-truth&p=1097264&viewfull=1#post1097264) where Renee Ellory’ blogs, called eyesforlies.com (http://www.eyesforlies.com/blog/), gives super advice on buying a new car. It triggered an experience from the 1990’s when I went to purchase mine. The plan was to hit a couple of dealerships that Saturday. I’d done my research and was fully prepared.

The sales person greeted me. I explained, I’ve purchased my last three Toyotas here. I’m pressed for time. I’m here to purchase the Celica. What I need is your best offer on the new vehicle and the trade-in.

I stopped him when he began his fast talking spiel. I interjected that know what I want. He can skip the details. I reminded him that I’m here to purchase it today if the price was within my research.

He pushed his chair out and raised his voice when I wouldn’t show him my numbers first and asked again for his bottom line. Then he flipped on auto-bot and started all over again from the beginning with his sales pitch. I interrupted, “I’ll ask one last time. If you don’t answer my question, I walk.”

What I didn’t expect next was he stood up, planted his hands on his waist and raised his voice enough that some of his colleagues and customers checked out the commotion. The red heat colored my face. Though there was a desk between us, I sat eye level to his zipper. Classic power and control maneuver. Then my attention went to the onlookers as I stood gathering up my things.

His words a blur, the seconds an eternity.

From the periphery, I saw someone come forward and surmised it was tag-team #2. The manager apologized for his employee’s behavior. He explained sometimes he gets a little hot under the collar and offered to work with me. I answered, “I’ll go elsewhere, even if it means I pay more.”


............Going, going, gone .......................................... :car:


Here’s Renee Ellory advice which can also be applied elsewhere:




Last week, I wrote about my experience in buying a new car. Every Hyundai dealer I went into had the same exact approach. They would greet me, talk to me a minute and then they all asked me to sit down. Next they would want my name, address, etc. so they could contact me again.

I asked last week what information a salesman can glean from you at this point.
If I am a salesman, I want to know as much as I can about you, my customer, and the sooner I can get information about you, the faster I can act to close a deal by meeting your and my needs.  I also want to identify easy sales from more challenging ones, right?

These simple, benign requests, will reveal a lot about a person in just a minute or two of time!

If I were to ask every customer to sit, I would immediately take notice of the customers who follow my instructions.   If they sit and even better, give me all the information I ask for, I know right away, this person is much more likely to follow my lead (I’m in the driver’s seat so-to-speak), be open to suggestions (up selling), and wants to be polite and pleasing so I can sell MORE and MORE!
That’s the perfect customer who has the highest likelihood to sign on the dotted line for a much higher price than a person who questions me along the way or doesn’t follow my instruction.

I suspect you can guess what I did at that time. I gave them no name, no address, no information, and no, thank you, I don’t want to sit.  I see it this way: I am the paying customer. I am paying you to be there to service me and my needs, not the other way around.  I will only give you information that benefits me!

So the next time you are a customer buying a product, think twice at what you do and say. Each interaction you have with someone reveals information about you, and that information can and most likely will be used against you!  So remember, what are you revealing?

In sales, it always behooves you to stay in the “drivers seat”:  You be in control.  You call the shots and not the other way around.

[lake]

Big smile....really big

Just in case I dont get to tell you all....love ya........yes its a selfish emotion but f8uk it

Its been fun .... so far :sun:

Chat soon.......I hope

[ulli]

Right now Saturn is at 10'24" of Sagittarius, and Neptune is at 10'24" of Pisces.
In other words, the two planets are forming an exact right angle. 90'00".
Just letting people know. (Besides, Mercury is doing a retrograde in Virgo)
Saturn is blocking the finer spiritual energies. It's best to lie low for a week.
Anyone with a planet at 10 degrees of any of the 12 zodiac signs will be feeling this, somehow or other.

And there's more. A Venus-Pluto right angle as well. Venus at 14' Libra, and Pluto at 14' Capricorn. Very passionate, obsessive and intense.
And for the next half hour the moon enters Capricorn, and is forming a right angle to Jupiter, who has just enrered Libra. Moon Jupiter squares mean emotions going wild.
All I can say is, don't let the planets get to you.
Soar above them, and be true to your cosmic self, as this solar system is not doing a good job right now, energy-wise. Right angles often resemble the gates of hell.

[Carmody]

I checked out one of Shannon’s links (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93182-Is-someone-telling-me-the-truth&p=1097264&viewfull=1#post1097264) where Renee Ellory’ blogs, called eyesforlies.com (http://www.eyesforlies.com/blog/), gives super advice on buying a new car. It triggered an experience from the 1990’s when I went to purchase mine. The plan was to hit a couple of dealerships that Saturday. I’d done my research and was fully prepared.

The sales person greeted me. I explained, I’ve purchased my last three Toyotas here. I’m pressed for time. I’m here to purchase the Celica. What I need is your best offer on the new vehicle and the trade-in.

I stopped him when he began his fast talking spiel. I interjected that know what I want. He can skip the details. I reminded him that I’m here to purchase it today if the price was within my research.

He pushed his chair out and raised his voice when I wouldn’t show him my numbers first and asked again for his bottom line. Then he flipped on auto-bot and started all over again from the beginning with his sales pitch. I interrupted, “I’ll ask one last time. If you don’t answer my question, I walk.”

What I didn’t expect next was he stood up, planted his hands on his waist and raised his voice enough that some of his colleagues and customers checked out the commotion. The red heat colored my face. Though there was a desk between us, I sat eye level to his zipper. Classic power and control maneuver. Then my attention went to the onlookers as I stood gathering up my things.

His words a blur, the seconds an eternity.

From the periphery, I saw someone come forward and surmised it was tag-team #2. The manager apologized for his employee’s behavior. He explained sometimes he gets a little hot under the collar and offered to work with me. I answered, “I’ll go elsewhere, even if it means I pay more.”


............Going, going, gone .......................................... :car:


Here’s Renee Ellory advice which can also be applied elsewhere:




Last week, I wrote about my experience in buying a new car. Every Hyundai dealer I went into had the same exact approach. They would greet me, talk to me a minute and then they all asked me to sit down. Next they would want my name, address, etc. so they could contact me again.

I asked last week what information a salesman can glean from you at this point.
If I am a salesman, I want to know as much as I can about you, my customer, and the sooner I can get information about you, the faster I can act to close a deal by meeting your and my needs.  I also want to identify easy sales from more challenging ones, right?

These simple, benign requests, will reveal a lot about a person in just a minute or two of time!

If I were to ask every customer to sit, I would immediately take notice of the customers who follow my instructions.   If they sit and even better, give me all the information I ask for, I know right away, this person is much more likely to follow my lead (I’m in the driver’s seat so-to-speak), be open to suggestions (up selling), and wants to be polite and pleasing so I can sell MORE and MORE!
That’s the perfect customer who has the highest likelihood to sign on the dotted line for a much higher price than a person who questions me along the way or doesn’t follow my instruction.

I suspect you can guess what I did at that time. I gave them no name, no address, no information, and no, thank you, I don’t want to sit.  I see it this way: I am the paying customer. I am paying you to be there to service me and my needs, not the other way around.  I will only give you information that benefits me!

So the next time you are a customer buying a product, think twice at what you do and say. Each interaction you have with someone reveals information about you, and that information can and most likely will be used against you!  So remember, what are you revealing?

In sales, it always behooves you to stay in the “drivers seat”:  You be in control.  You call the shots and not the other way around.


A real pro is more subtle. It can be figured out in a few seconds with a bit of body language. If one is really good they can watch it change throughout sentences and conversational components.

It is not advantageous, in most cases, for a salesman to put a customer on equal ground. It depends. One has to work with the conversation and the body language to see how the customers want to play it.

There was a time (a short time) when I taught the salesmen who taught the salesmen who sold to you. Depending on what is being sold or what is going on, it can happen on 4 levels at the same time. With multi-tiered meaning and indications/directions/potentials in each speech component. Each person is to be greeted with the presence by which they operate. This can generally be understood in the first sentence in the interaction and refined as one moves along.

[Carmody]

Right now Saturn is at 10'24" of Sagittarius, and Neptune is at 10'24" of Pisces.
In other words, the two planets are forming an exact right angle. 90'00".
Just letting people know. (Besides, Mercury is doing a retrograde in Virgo)
Saturn is blocking the finer spiritual energies. It's best to lie low for a week.
Anyone with a planet at 10 degrees of any of the 12 zodiac signs will be feeling this, somehow or other.

And there's more. A Venus-Pluto right angle as well. Venus at 14' Libra, and Pluto at 14' Capricorn. Very passionate, obsessive and intense.
And for the next half hour the moon enters Capricorn, and is forming a right angle to Jupiter, who has just enrered Libra. Moon Jupiter squares mean emotions going wild.
All I can say is, don't let the planets get to you.
Soar above them, and be true to your cosmic self, as this solar system is not doing a good job right now, energy-wise. Right angles often resemble the gates of hell.


That's interesting... as the 'expected' happened to me, my electrical power went out for 12 hrs at that exact time, in a series of major (near tornado) storms.

[TargeT]

Just watched a 12min long fireworks display.. rumors are it cost around $100,000.

It was to celibrate the opening of a business here on the island... Im wondering what we were being distracted from, or maybe if it was just a "good will buy"... they gave away free food too apparently to the first 700 people that showed up.

[ulli]

https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14310548_10210466806212381_3171269792074333639_o.jpg

This afternoon, while weeding I nearly mistook this frog for a dead leaf.
He sat perfectly still, trusting that his camouflage was working.

[ulli]

https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10154078_10151951068597303_1121465456_n.jpg?oh=91d58cadc568e3c425918d7a7be7fdd4&oe=58417A8C

[araucaria]

Watch this video (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-go-into-the-basket-of-deplorables-video)of Hillary without paying too much attention to what she’s saying: it is a faultless impersonation of an Obama speech; intonation, the timed pauses for effect, looking to right and left... all right on the nail.

Of course those conspiracy nutters will tell you they must have plugged the wrong software into the wrong clone. But I’m looking for some sensible explanation. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find one. It’s not as though she is unconsciously imitating someone she deeply admires. Any suggestions?

[Eram]

Watch this video (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-go-into-the-basket-of-deplorables-video)of Hillary without paying too much attention to what she’s saying: it is a faultless impersonation of an Obama speech; intonation, the timed pauses for effect, looking to right and left... all right on the nail.

Of course those conspiracy nutters will tell you they must have plugged the wrong software into the wrong clone. But I’m looking for some sensible explanation. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find one. It’s not as though she is unconsciously imitating someone she deeply admires. Any suggestions?

I've noticed the Obama impersonation before when she spoke to an audience.

I guess she 's just trying to mimic success.

You see it in top sport all the time.
The one at the top gets mimicked in all kinds of doings by others who want to reach the top. All in function to reach the same kind of level as the top dog of course.

[araucaria]

Watch this video (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-go-into-the-basket-of-deplorables-video)of Hillary without paying too much attention to what she’s saying: it is a faultless impersonation of an Obama speech; intonation, the timed pauses for effect, looking to right and left... all right on the nail.

Of course those conspiracy nutters will tell you they must have plugged the wrong software into the wrong clone. But I’m looking for some sensible explanation. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find one. It’s not as though she is unconsciously imitating someone she deeply admires. Any suggestions?

I've noticed the Obama impersonation before when she spoke to an audience.

I guess she 's just trying to mimic success.

You see it in top sport all the time.
The one at the top gets mimicked in all kinds of doings by others who want to reach the top. All in function to reach the same kind of level as the top dog of course.
Oh is that it? How boring! I expect you're right. :)

Edit: of course it might be a spliced job, like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYVExWwmRlI).

[Ernie Nemeth]

seem to have trouble with that last one

edit: re: Ulli's "speak without offending"

[ulli]

seem to have trouble with that last one

edit: re: Ulli's "speak without offending"

My problem is that I don't listen without defending.
Each one can probably identify with at least one line.

[ulli]

Watch this video (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-go-into-the-basket-of-deplorables-video)of Hillary without paying too much attention to what she’s saying: it is a faultless impersonation of an Obama speech; intonation, the timed pauses for effect, looking to right and left... all right on the nail.

Of course those conspiracy nutters will tell you they must have plugged the wrong software into the wrong clone. But I’m looking for some sensible explanation. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find one. It’s not as though she is unconsciously imitating someone she deeply admires. Any suggestions?

They all had the same trainers probably. Public speaking is something you can learn, like drama class.
Moving the head from left to right is designed to make sure that no one in the audience feels unaddressed.

[Flash]

yes this is right, you usually divide the crowd in 6-8 iinches square (from you eyes projecting out) and look at each square while sweeping the crowd. Everyone in the square gets the impression of having had eye contact with you. Easier with smaller crowds, but still feasible with larger ones. Obama has it quite well, Hitler too had it well. And yes, it is taught. if she is sweeping too fast, or going from left to right without sweeping, then people will have the impression of falsehood (even if both are, one is not perceived as such).




Watch this video (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-go-into-the-basket-of-deplorables-video)of Hillary without paying too much attention to what she’s saying: it is a faultless impersonation of an Obama speech; intonation, the timed pauses for effect, looking to right and left... all right on the nail.

Of course those conspiracy nutters will tell you they must have plugged the wrong software into the wrong clone. But I’m looking for some sensible explanation. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find one. It’s not as though she is unconsciously imitating someone she deeply admires. Any suggestions?

They all had the same trainers probably. Public speaking is something you can learn, like drama class.
Moving the head from left to right is designed to make sure that no one in the audience feels unaddressed.

[Akasha]

Watch this video (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-go-into-the-basket-of-deplorables-video)of Hillary without paying too much attention to what she’s saying: it is a faultless impersonation of an Obama speech; intonation, the timed pauses for effect, looking to right and left... all right on the nail.

Of course those conspiracy nutters will tell you they must have plugged the wrong software into the wrong clone. But I’m looking for some sensible explanation. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find one. It’s not as though she is unconsciously imitating someone she deeply admires. Any suggestions?

They all had the same trainers probably. Public speaking is something you can learn, like drama class.
Moving the head from left to right is designed to make sure that no one in the audience feels unaddressed.

There's probably a few words on the left teleprompter with a right-pointing arrow at the bottom, then it's over to the right....... more mindless babble, then left-pointing arrow etc etc............

[Carmody]

I don't really think of it as a trained technique, I think of it as a common sense tactic when addressing a crowd. My personal experience is that tends to lose it's effectiveness when the crowd exceeds more than 3-400 people, as the people begin to become too far away. I just fell into it naturally as method of making sure I was engaging everyone in the given crowd, and that the data was imparted into the group.

Fundamentally...that eye contact is required within certain timing cycles, to help people concentrate on the data set being proffered. Individual personal conversation, with 400 people at a time.

It can't quite be pure oration, it has to sound personalized, with some of the aspects of personal small talk, in how it is carried. To deliver the message in a personal close way that puts a response on the tip of the recipients mind, as if it is individualized conversation. This is a good part of how one gains full engagement in the given audience. That one is doing a back and forth, a give and take, but one part of the conversation is silent- the one of the audience. It is their minds that become active, if you've done it correctly.

Thus the term 'engaging speaker'.

[skyflower]

Today, I sat next to a person who was very angry. I ended up picking up that energy, and I felt sick. It felt like a bad heartburn. I felt better when I physically removed myself from the proximity of that angry person.
Last week, I felt fear, and panic, and got heart palpitations, out of the blue. I know I was picking up someone else's feelings.
A few days earlier, I was meditating, and suddenly found myself crying, and sending healing to the planet.


I quit my toxic job last year, and spent the past year looking within, and letting go of a lot of baggage. I meditate regularly now, and I am in a very good place energetically now. I could easily say, I am a very different person today, compared to who I was last year.

I have no qualms about connecting to higher frequency while meditating...But it's a bit disconcerting to pick up these lower frequencies. I wonder if I am unwittingly leaving myself open energetically?

[Catsquotl]

Yes, It sounds like you are picking up all kinds of frequencies. Comes with opening up I guess.

Instead of trying to remedy such an ordeal. What if you are the only one in the viscinity that is capable of transmuting such energies? For years I meditated like most by connecting to the so called higher frequencies. And although that feels good. It also means i.m.o that I am pushing out the lower ones. Preferably through transmutation, but more often by just sending the **** outwards to be dealt with by something else. Gods, mother earth.. Anything.

When I noticed that I changed my practise from letting go of the lower and connecting to the higher to accept all energies and transmuting it within to be part of the love that I am. Making sure that at least what I send out is better than what I take in.

It is not a bad thing to pick up energy. It is what it is. see it as such and make the world a better place by transmuting.

With Love
Eelco

[skyflower]

Thank you Eelco for ur wonderful insight.

I'm pretty new to this. It's only recent that I have been able to separate outside frequencies from mine.

Any pointers on how to transmute it before sending it away?

So far I have been just focused on getting rid of it like the plague. :)

[Flash]

I don't really think of it as a trained technique, I think of it as a common sense tactic when addressing a crowd. My personal experience is that tends to lose it's effectiveness when the crowd exceeds more than 3-400 people, as the people begin to become too far away. I just fell into it naturally as method of making sure I was engaging everyone in the given crowd, and that the data was imparted into the group.

Fundamentally...that eye contact is required within certain timing cycles, to help people concentrate on the data set being proffered. Individual personal conversation, with 400 people at a time.

It can't quite be pure oration, it has to sound personalized, with some of the aspects of personal small talk, in how it is carried. To deliver the message in a personal close way that puts a response on the tip of the recipients mind, as if it is individualized conversation. This is a good part of how one gains full engagement in the given audience. That one is doing a back and forth, a give and take, but one part of the conversation is silent- the one of the audience. It is their minds that become active, if you've done it correctly.

Thus the term 'engaging speaker'.

Maybe a political speaker does not want "their minds" to become too much active, that would be a dangerous zone in the circumstances. lollllllllll - just kidding

However, I do think that in politics, it is more the emotions that have to become active, for the given politician success. In scientific or corporate situations, then the mind has to become active as well. Anyhow, your basic principles are right Carmody, imo.

[Catsquotl]

Thank you Eelco for ur wonderful insight.

I'm pretty new to this. It's only recent that I have been able to separate outside frequencies from mine.

Any pointers on how to transmute it before sending it away?

So far I have been just focused on getting rid of it like the plague. :)

Well that is indeed the tricky part.
Once you transmute the energies to be a part of you. I don't think you have to send it away anymore. As the energy is now a part of you.

This may sound as if there is a definite beginning, middle and end, but in my experience the boundaries aren't all that clear.

First i'd propose finding a few meditations/visualisations that can help in controlling the flow of incoming energies. Maybe visualize a mirror dome around you that will reflect "too much unwanted energie" back to sender. Maybe visualize a guardian rose that will only allow "sympathetic energie" to enter your field and scare of the unsympathetic ones away with it's thorns.
This is so you get some sense of control over overwhelming energies.

Then once you allow to resonate or take in "lower energy" see how or where it effects you within. could be bodily sensations, could be as fleeting as thoughts that you don't recognize as your own. See where in life you had a similar energy affect you. Then just forgive yourself, forgive the other and that's it.

Once forgiven and loved the energy will transmute by itself. Mind you that it may feel different, heavier and less kumbaya than you imagine. That's ok.
In my experience it usually takes a while to see clearly what happened as some of the heavier feelings sometimes linger once the transmutation is happening or even long done.

So far for helpful visualizations. In the end I found that boundaries between what is mine and what is someone elses disappear. As we are One. It doesn't matter that much to me anymore who started what. Its about what do I experience now (the whole enchilada) and what do I wish to express in this moment.

I hope this helps. If it doesn't that just think of it as the ramblings of an uninformed crazy person who has lost touch with reality. :wacko:

With Love
Eelco

[ulli]

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