View Full Version : Here and Now...What's Happening?
Calz
6th January 2012, 15:25
I'll say. That's powerful.
Powerful enough to win the 6000th post award ... :first::clap2::peace:
1inMany
6th January 2012, 15:45
Here and now...I'm thinking...
We are all the same origin simply manifesting as individuals to experience. As Mini-me, we each have gifts we bring with us or we cultivate for one reason or another. Universally speaking, and theoretically speaking, we each could cultivate all gifts in this experience. That's an ocean of possibility. That would only be possible, though, if we each shed the dream, the matrix, the illusion...which is the experience we seek. No? So, that doesn't seem to make sense. Wow, that isn't where I suspected I would end up following this line of thinking.
This thought process started with healing, Reiki. I've had a secret wonderence about healing using energy, using light, using the inner, using the greater. I've never believed I brought or possess that gift, but never one to discard possibilities, I have allowed it to simmer. It might be a case of the time not being right yet...never know. Just because something doesn't feel right now, or resonate now, I've certainly learned that means nothing in the long run.
In moments of allowing the dreamer to surface, and watching where she goes, I observe much intense and bright energy, golden in the center with white tips, flowing from the innermost unto the outermost. The pillar into the Mini-me, the intense golden ball, out through the hands as conduits, white then. The energy travels like a spark on a beach of gunpowder, but gently. Powerful, but flowing...moving...transforming what it touches from black and white to the most vivid color, from the absence to the presence of life. Mini-me gives way to Me, and I think to myself how much I want to be that.
Who is Me? Is Me the ego? Is Me the Mini-Me? Is Me the Whole? Is the process of wanting occurring for the ego...the Mini-Me...the Whole? Not all dreamers travel the same dreams, so is dreaming the little voice? Do we, whichever we, bring all potential? Or do we eaches bring a specific potential?
Much Love,
ulli
6th January 2012, 16:38
I don't know, but I've had glimpses. Sometimes I imagine me 5 million years in the future...ok, lets say 10 000 years in the future...not to exaggerate.
So I have this meditation. And I meet this awesome me. I mean AWESOME.
It's a lot more complex than my present me, a lot more skilled, a lot more powerful, a lot more loving....
and it can fly and be in several places at once.
Then I see you all are there, too....
Get the picture???
meeradas
6th January 2012, 16:57
The energy travels like a spark on a beach of gunpowder, but gently. Powerful, but flowing...moving...transforming what it touches from black and white to the most vivid color, from the absence to the presence of life.
Great post!
Thanks the most for this picture. Powerful. Will use.
This thread - it's brimming over with brilliance [in all possible references].
TY button isn't enuff anymore.
ManyIn1?:
zyNyHark4xk
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Btw:
Kool and the Gang (http://www.nj.com/entertainment/music/index.ssf/2012/01/van_halen_tour_and_recording_d.html) are opening selected
shows for VAN HALEN (http://youtu.be/B4pJ8ZVxZus) on their 2012 tour.
These are strange[ly] beautiful and exciting times - obviously.
Awesome.
ulli
6th January 2012, 16:59
When I showed Reiki to my friend, she met a spriit helper named LiLi. His back was so bent, and he curled around himself with this sort spinal deformity.
So my friend says, My guide is crippled! They've given me a deformed guide!
So LiLi makes it very clear to her that the more she healed and grew into herself, the more his back would straighten out. Eventually she got over LiLi's 'deformity' .Then she starts this year's long rush of enthusiam for LiLi --sorta like how your friends sound when they get a new boyfriend.
"Lili is so wise, so funny, so happy, and does such magickal things. Isn't Lili amazing. And all these wonderful things happen when Lili is around. "
So a few years later she realizes that LiLii is standing up straight.... so she knew she had arrived at very goodpoint in her life. And she felt better than she had in years, the typical transformed person.
But then LiLi disappeared.
So she says to me," Does that mean that I don't need him anymore?"
I wound't tell and she didn't know.
She was very disappointed because she had come to enjoy LiLi very much and enjoyed watching his back straighten out. And she liked the idea that as she healed, he was healing along with her.
Then she realizes it, that moment we all wait for. She calls me one day and says, LiLi didn't disappear did he?
Nope.
Lili never existed did he?
Nope..
Lili was me the entire time wasn't he?
Yep.
Wise, magickal funny, miraculous.
Hard shoe to wear, eh?
That became clear to me when I was watching the movie Fight Club.
Brad Pitt was Edward Norton's projection, all along.
That movie appeared on the screen on my life just as I was learning about projections.
Learning about projections came just after learning about manifestation.
The lessons I had to learn all came to me in a definite order,
and were usually accompanied by a movie that helped to drive the point home.
Once I discovered that these kinds of lessons were not random chance events
but sent to me by my guides, full of meaning,
I became more confident about my own mission in life, which was to share what was going on with me.
Here and Now...the Village is the place. And since the other Villagers are engaged in similar undertakings
the outside world is visiting in greater and greater droves.
We need to start thinking of building more guest houses and even hotels soon.
ulli
6th January 2012, 17:04
Well, Calz, if Kitt Mambo is Astrid then Rene Fromage has to be Carmody.
Here is how they win their marathon together, and their managers totally losing it.
Go to the 2 minute mark.
gTp9v7-sERM
astrid
6th January 2012, 17:05
Geat story Eagle 2 nines perfectly put
iAs I often say its all about us all of it
The coolest journey I have had yet was recently
when journeying for Louis . I met with an old
male sage in a place that was somehow familiar.
He presented to me a very old book red leather
cover with gold . On the front in black letters
were the words " The healing of animals "
Inside were pages, all yellowed, hand ink written
black text and diagrams some hand colored .
i was blown away . What's more it is magical.
All I have to do is have an issue and open the book
and the right words will appear when needed .
In the same journey I went back to my spirit
house and a hallway appeared with different
doors they were all elementally signed , fire
water, earth and air . I opened the fire door and
there was my work room just like my work room
in 3D with all my various projects that have stalled.
So to re boot any of them all I have to do is to
journey back there to that room and create right
there in my room of passion and fire whatever
makes me burn , turns me on . Which is what I
so love about the creative process it's a total
turn on , lights all my fires .
I'm still completely blown away by that journey
it was all of 10 mins long, but so jammed
packed . I remember just on entering I tacked on
the end of my intention for Louis , to take a look
at my stalled creative projects ...
Really I'm starting to fall in love with this pathway
it has more than everything I need to live in total
magic all the time .
It does feel a little like reclaiming my lost childhood.
I was so in awe of that journey that I couldnt even
write it up , guess ive done that here and now.
4.05am
meeradas
6th January 2012, 17:05
We need to start thinking of building more guest houses and even hotels soon.
Damn. Interesting turn.
Carmody
6th January 2012, 17:07
When I showed Reiki to my friend, she met a spriit helper named LiLi. His back was so bent, and he curled around himself with this sort spinal deformity.
So my friend says, My guide is crippled! They've given me a deformed guide!
So LiLi makes it very clear to her that the more she healed and grew into herself, the more his back would straighten out. Eventually she got over LiLi's 'deformity' .Then she starts this year's long rush of enthusiam for LiLi --sorta like how your friends sound when they get a new boyfriend.
"Lili is so wise, so funny, so happy, and does such magickal things. Isn't Lili amazing. And all these wonderful things happen when Lili is around. "
So a few years later she realizes that LiLii is standing up straight.... so she knew she had arrived at very goodpoint in her life. And she felt better than she had in years, the typical transformed person.
But then LiLi disappeared.
So she says to me," Does that mean that I don't need him anymore?"
I wound't tell and she didn't know.
She was very disappointed because she had come to enjoy LiLi very much and enjoyed watching his back straighten out. And she liked the idea that as she healed, he was healing along with her.
Then she realizes it, that moment we all wait for. She calls me one day and says, LiLi didn't disappear did he?
Nope.
Lili never existed did he?
Nope..
Lili was me the entire time wasn't he?
Yep.
Wise, magickal funny, miraculous.
Hard shoe to wear, eh?
All I could do, in this thread..is to introduce the idea of that. I can't say one way or another, but it can be indicated, regarding potential.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37521-A-strange-accurance-of-Sleep-Paralysis/page2
astrid
6th January 2012, 17:14
Good to see you Carmody hope all is well in your
Universe .
1inMany
6th January 2012, 17:19
Well, Ulli, I'm not sure.
I don't know, but I've had glimpses. Sometimes I imagine me 5 million years in the future...ok, lets say 10 000 years in the future...not to exaggerate.
So I have this meditation. And I meet this awesome me. I mean AWESOME.
It's a lot more complex than my present me, a lot more skilled, a lot more powerful, a lot more loving....
and it can fly and be in several places at once.
Then I see you all are there, too....
Get the picture???
I get A picture, but I'm not sure it's THE picture...if I try to understand what you are saying, in the context of the Mini-Me & ego & Whole, I understand it as saying the same thing lol. As we experience something we might be experiencing everything. Quite mind boggling actually.
astrid
6th January 2012, 17:22
Now I'm too fired up to get back to sleep lol
1inMany
6th January 2012, 17:27
Here's something I just flat-out don't get. My mind seems to process things that are logical, a sequence or an order of things. My Mini-Me or Whole seems to know things that my mind may not be able to grasp. But then, apparently, my mind has to go back and search for the logical, or the sequence and order, or what I know so that it can catch up. Can't I just fast forward this whole mind thing? People use tools to get where they are going...meditation, travels, non-3d experiences. But I don't have any of those...how is it I am able to know things that I have not understood and set out on a path to accomplish? That's bass-ackwards. And then, after that one, if I know, then why is it so difficult to learn? That just slows down the knowing because I have to catch up before I can know more. Does this crap make any sense?
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Meeradas, that video is totally freaky. In a good way, of course...
ulli
6th January 2012, 17:31
Well, Ulli, I'm not sure.
I don't know, but I've had glimpses. Sometimes I imagine me 5 million years in the future...ok, lets say 10 000 years in the future...not to exaggerate.
So I have this meditation. And I meet this awesome me. I mean AWESOME.
It's a lot more complex than my present me, a lot more skilled, a lot more powerful, a lot more loving....
and it can fly and be in several places at once.
Then I see you all are there, too....
Get the picture???
I get A picture, but I'm not sure it's THE picture...if I try to understand what you are saying, in the context of the Mini-Me & ego & Whole, I understand it as saying the same thing lol. As we experience something we might be experiencing everything. Quite mind boggling actually.
When going to the past it's impossible to do so without the mind, as the mind stores memories.
Besides, Cancerians find comfort in the past, which is why they are often the upholders of traditions.
When going to the future you must leave the mind behind.
The future is non-existent. Anything goes there.
That's why you find it mind boggling. The mind becomes like a bog.
Where infinite possibilities exist the last thing one needs is a bog. ;)
1inMany
6th January 2012, 17:35
Aha...going anywhere is leaving the mind behind, isn't it? So...I'm holding on to my mind. Hmmmmm....
well...except for when I dream....unless that is not any type of travel and is only another, deeper layer of mind processing 3d crud...
ulli
6th January 2012, 17:41
Aha...going anywhere is leaving the mind behind, isn't it? So...I'm holding on to my mind. Hmmmmm....
well...except for when I dream....unless that is not any type of travel and is only another, deeper layer of mind processing 3d crud...
well, that's what dreams are for...clearing the mind.
Mind toilet time.
But not all dreams are about that. The dream mechanism becomes something else once the person learns how not to overload their mind with fears and worries.
When I person uses their mind only when needed and maintains it like a precision tool that it is meant to be, then dreams take on new meaning altogether.
That's why Carmody's sharing is so helpful for the rest of us who may be on the verge of that change.
Carmody
6th January 2012, 17:45
Basically, the best that can happen is that enough people awaken..BEFORE the technology goes mainstream.
The technology enables ego, pure and simple. It enables ego to 'hang in there, just a bit longer'.
Hence the danger in such technologies hitting the public realm before awareness.
The issue is that ...as the 'being' (avatar/incarnate) of problematic intent, 'the egoic systems' begins to fall (with regard to overt control of reality interpretation) ...the awareness and the potential in the technology happen at near the same time. As our egoic edifice crashes the system of incarnation and illusory reality also suffers fits and starts, constant revamping. confusion abounds, repeatedly. Cyclically.
When I was dealing with the people in the Tsunami, each time I tried to help one and pull them out of their distress, their manifestation of energies was so high, that they'd all try to do it at the same time, thus pulling me into their space or nightmare of confusion and spiraling death. One that they could not end,as they faded into their physical ends in a death panic. I had to flip them into going all the way, so they could finally relax their actual 'death grip' on the death moment.
The human ego will do the same, on both the individual and collective level. The problem is the technology allows the ego to hang on...just a bit longer... and gain a feeling of security that it can advertize/illustrate/show (to the occupant) as a lessening of fear and a insertion of comfort INTO the body and associated chemical neural pathways, up to and including the sensory input/recognition system.
Clarity and the technology will, for all intents and purposes, happen at the same time or in the same time frame and mental setting/shifting.
Like clearing the ego, regarding one's mental mindset, the answer is simple..but difficult in practice, until certain physical neural wiring changes take place in the given mind..so the edifice of the body/ego intrudes less into the attempts of the occupant of the avatar to achieve some clarity.
This, so the input/output system of the astral body and it's connection to the physical avatar manifestation operates more in sync with ideals and directions. Down to the point of 'shape/object recognition'. Which is that point I raise about the book of '10,000 dream interpretations' (allegorical dreams, indicative dreams--not direct) you can buy at the bookstore and most still needing such to some degree, vs... seeing things as they actually are, via the astral connection of body spirit.. This only happens via a solid connection through the egoic/avatar system and the astral or dimensional occupant of the 3d body/avatar. By solid connection, I mean a direct connection through the ego's shape and object recognition system. A combination of egoic dissolution and manifestation, one could say. everyone has to deal with their particular issue of egoic darkness, the vestigial fears of the body's desire to remain in the illusion of control and final say. a slightly strong tune that illustrates this quandary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExLqMBLyWd8) (Iggy Pop on vocals). Thus the great need/desire to have no tools of destruction easily at hand....as this emerges in the human 'mainstream'. One can also say that this is just a manipulation of ideas to keep such technologies out of the hands of humans in order to keep humans as a slavish species or unaware, and yes, that has teeth and legs too. But then again, whence comes such a standpoint of a statement? Does that as a statement come from a position of not knowing what is on the other side of the egoic input/output system of the avatar's 'clearing?'.
If one wants or desires to fight for the technologies, sure, go ahead. However, a shorter path, simpler, more achievable path (one that is directly available to anyone, right now)... is in the idea of a true clearing of the self. Then it can be looked at--again, and maybe a different position will be encountered regarding the context of such technology and it's juxtaposition in society in general.
(just listening to):
Qyf-rRuLBHU
meeradas
6th January 2012, 17:47
I'll be here
for the next hour and a half.
Just in case someone wants to join.
astrid
6th January 2012, 17:51
The conscious mind always wants to put in it's
55 cents and it will try to lead you to believe it
knows all when actually its a total dumb ass.
I thank it for it's opinions, which is what it wants,
our attention , then I get back to my higher
connections . They are always there just not as
loud or flashy, and those parts are all knowing .
I found the trick is to be able to identify that
voice when it's speaking . Once you have done
that it's easy to hear it . The mind will keep trying
to jump in , it's how we are taught "smart is better"
but the mind was only ever meant to be the servant
not the master and its got all twisted around .
Why we are in this mess.
The heart is the gateway out of it with the mind
following behind . The heart gateway is were you
travel to find your higher aspects .
But don't ignore the mind just express gratitude
for its tireless service and let it know that it deserves
a well earnt rest . More to add on this but some
threads to begin with .
That higher aspect is never not there we are that
before anything else .
it's a matter of making that connection more and
more sold . Many ways to do this you will find the
one that works best for you .
For me it's being off In laa laa land lol. When I say I'm
away with the fairies it's because I actually am away
with the fairies lol
ulli
6th January 2012, 18:00
Basically, the best that can happen is that enough people awaken..BEFORE the technology goes mainstream.
The technology enables ego, pure and simple. It enables ego to 'hang in there, just a bit longer'.
Hence the danger in such technologies hitting the public realm before awareness.
The issue is that ...as the 'being' (avatar/incarnate) of problematic intent, 'the egoic systems' begins to fall (with regard to overt control of reality interpretation) ...the awareness and the potential in the technology happen at near the same time. As our egoic edifice crashes the system of incarnation and illusory reality also suffers fits and starts, constant revamping. confusion abounds, repeatedly. Cyclically.
When I was dealing with the people in the Tsunami, each time I tried to help one and pull them out of their distress, their manifestation of energies was so high, that they'd all try to do it at the same time, thus pulling me into their space or nightmare of confusion and spiraling death. One that they could not end,as they faded into their physical ends in a death panic. I had to flip them into going all the way, so they could finally relax their actual 'death grip' on the death moment.
The human ego will do the same, on both the individual and collective level. The problem is the technology allows the ego to hang on...just a bit longer... and gain a feeling of security that it can advertized as a lessening of fear and a insertion of comfort INTO the body and associated chemical neural pathways, up to and including the sensory input.
Clarity and the technology will, for all intents and purposes, happen at the same time or in the same time frame and mental setting/shifting.
Like clearing the ego, regarding one's ,metal mindset, the answer is simple..but difficult in practice, until certain physical neural wiring changes take place in the given mind..so the edifice of the body/ego intrudes less into the attempts of the occupant of the avatar to achieve some clarity. this, so the input/output system of the astral body and it's connection to the physical avatar manifestation operates more in sync with ideals and directions. Down to the point of 'shape/object recognition'. Which is that point I raise about the book of '10,000 dream interpretations' you can buy at the bookstore and most still needing such to some degree, vs... seeing things as they actually are, via the astral connection of body spirit.. this only happens via a solid connection through the egoic/avatar system and the astral or dimensional occupant of the 3d body/avatar. By solid connection, I mean a direct connection through the ego's shape and object recognition system. A combination of egoic dissolution and manifestation, one could say. everyone has to deal with their particular issue of egoic darkness, the vestigial fears of the body's desire to remain in the illusion of control and final say. a slightly strong tune that illustrates this quandary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExLqMBLyWd8) (Iggy Pop on vocals). Thus the great need/desire to have no tools of destruction easily at hand....as this emerges in the human 'mainstream'. One can also say that this is just a manipulation of ideas to keep such technologies out of the hands of humans in order to keep humans as a slavish species or unaware, and yes, that has teeth and legs too. But then again, whence comes such a standpoint of a statement? Does that as a statement come from a position of not knowing what is on the other side of the egoic input/output system of the avatar's 'clearing?'.
If one wants or desires to fight for the technologies, sure, go ahead. However, a shorter path, simpler, more achievable path (one that is directly available to anyone, right now)... is in the idea of a true clearing of the self. Then it can be looked at--again, and maybe a different position will be encountered regarding the context of such technology and it's juxtaposition in society in general.
(just listening to):
Qyf-rRuLBHU
All technology was developed so that these types of conversations and discourses could take place.
99% of it was wasted energy, except for the 1 % which was to bring about Internet forums,
just so a few thousand people on the planet can converse about enlightenment while another
100,000 get the extra glimpse of how it's done.
Only this will ensure humanity's survival.
Free Energy can then appear when mass enlightenment is well on the way...not before, as it it could actually be a hindrance, as you just stated.
It would only give people more and more shortcuts to deeper sleep and comfort zones, and deprive them of their chance.
Because to me there is no doubt in the world: the purpose of this planet as opposed to all others is enlightenment.
ulli
6th January 2012, 18:07
Geat story Eagle 2 nines perfectly put
iAs I often say its all about us all of it
The coolest journey I have had yet was recently
when journeying for Louis . I met with an old
male sage in a place that was somehow familiar.
He presented to me a very old book red leather
cover with gold . On the front in black letters
were the words " The healing of animals "
Inside were pages, all yellowed, hand ink written
black text and diagrams some hand colored .
i was blown away . What's more it is magical.
All I have to do is have an issue and open the book
and the right words will appear when needed .
In the same journey I went back to my spirit
house and a hallway appeared with different
doors they were all elementally signed , fire
water, earth and air . I opened the fire door and
there was my work room just like my work room
in 3D with all my various projects that have stalled.
So to re boot any of them all I have to do is to
journey back there to that room and create right
there in my room of passion and fire whatever
makes me burn , turns me on . Which is what I
so love about the creative process it's a total
turn on , lights all my fires .
I'm still completely blown away by that journey
it was all of 10 mins long, but so jammed
packed . I remember just on entering I tacked on
the end of my intention for Louis , to take a look
at my stalled creative projects ...
Really I'm starting to fall in love with this pathway
it has more than everything I need to live in total
magic all the time .
It does feel a little like reclaiming my lost childhood.
I was so in awe of that journey that I couldnt even
write it up , guess ive done that here and now.
4.05am
There's our Kitt Mambo talking...and she hasn't even watched the movie yet....hehe....
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I'll be here
for the next hour and a half.
Just in case someone wants to join.
I'm right there with you, Meeradas.
Das Meer (German for "the ocean")
9eagle9
6th January 2012, 18:10
When I showed Reiki to my friend, she met a spriit helper named LiLi. His back was so bent, and he curled around himself with this sort spinal deformity.
So my friend says, My guide is crippled! They've given me a deformed guide!
So LiLi makes it very clear to her that the more she healed and grew into herself, the more his back would straighten out. Eventually she got over LiLi's 'deformity' .Then she starts this year's long rush of enthusiam for LiLi --sorta like how your friends sound when they get a new boyfriend.
"Lili is so wise, so funny, so happy, and does such magickal things. Isn't Lili amazing. And all these wonderful things happen when Lili is around. "
So a few years later she realizes that LiLii is standing up straight.... so she knew she had arrived at very goodpoint in her life. And she felt better than she had in years, the typical transformed person.
But then LiLi disappeared.
So she says to me," Does that mean that I don't need him anymore?"
I wound't tell and she didn't know.
She was very disappointed because she had come to enjoy LiLi very much and enjoyed watching his back straighten out. And she liked the idea that as she healed, he was healing along with her.
Then she realizes it, that moment we all wait for. She calls me one day and says, LiLi didn't disappear did he?
Nope.
Lili never existed did he?
Nope..
Lili was me the entire time wasn't he?
Yep.
Wise, magickal funny, miraculous.
Hard shoe to wear, eh?
All I could do, in this thread..is to introduce the idea of that. I can't say one way or another, but it can be indicated, regarding potential.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37521-A-strange-accurance-of-Sleep-Paralysis/page2
We tend to see the potential in others that we don't see in ourselves. But ....seeing that potential in others is meant to be a reflection of the potential in us.
We KNOW that when someone irks us we are seeing our own **** in them. That's when we can take that opportunity to embrace that as a door opening to heal ...or we can just the person for the crap.
But all thinigs are actual equlized in this hall of mirrors; we are just mirroring ourselves back and forth.
astrid
6th January 2012, 18:11
Yes the enlightenment goal i also share,
it will be the last attachment I release my
grip on . The village is the only other place
I have met people that share such aspirations.
I wonder if we will ever see it on the list of
possible careeer choices in education
establishments. Not this life time but maybe
one day .
astrid
6th January 2012, 18:14
Who the hell is Kitt Mambo?? Missed that post
astrid
6th January 2012, 18:24
Yes the projection thing is a big tough lesson
but when you get it so many doors open
and much more energy floods in . I find the
The fastest way is to take the finger that is
pointing outwards judging another and turn it
back to yourself . For some it means they will
combust in the fire of the ego burning but it's
the fastest way home . But business end time
now folks gloves coming off .
The day after you get abused for "making them
feel so crap" but the day after they are transformed
and you are their savior to which I reply no, you
are your own savior get used to it .
ulli
6th January 2012, 18:25
@ Astrid
Check out post # 5999 by Calz, then watch the video clip. I hope you can watch it on your phone.
Then check my post # 6006, where the conversation about Kitt Mambo continues...
PurpleLama
6th January 2012, 18:35
@astrid, your last post reminded me of:
C6ZiZmQ5V2s
Guest
6th January 2012, 19:34
We have been experiences very warm, dry clear days and very cold nights. The good thing is that i do not need to start a fire until about 4:00 and not burn as much wood. i am still having dreams about surge protectors -they are white; cables are extra thick and the outlets are on the sides not on top. They are very long and I can't see where they are plugged into or if they are plugged into anything at all. In the dreams they are either following me arround or attached to various parts of me, my legs, hands and hair -my hair is pretty long. Anyways it is a strange sight. I've been going through a lot of shifting and maybe all it is is self protecting mechanism to not get overwhelmed or go into overload.
Love
Nora
1inMany
6th January 2012, 19:50
Here and now ... :frusty:
ulli
6th January 2012, 20:04
We have been experiences very warm, dry clear days and very cold nights. The good thing is that i do not need to start a fire until about 4:00 and not burn as much wood. i am still having dreams about surge protectors -they are white; cables are extra thick and the outlets are on the sides not on top. They are very long and I can't see where they are plugged into or if they are plugged into anything at all. In the dreams they are either following me arround or attached to various parts of me, my legs, hands and hair -my hair is pretty long. Anyways it is a strange sight. I've been going through a lot of shifting and maybe all it is is self protecting mechanism to not get overwhelmed or go into overload.
Love
Nora
The surge protectors are you. the white color represents your innocence and purity.
You give off your energy through your hands (typing) and whole being...if you were more vocal, like a public speaker, or teacher, the outlet would probably be at the top.
The cables are long...this represents your Internet connections which reach far and wide, worldwide.
The whole thing being a surge protector means just as you mentioned, protecting yourself from overload.
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Here and now ... :frusty:
Oh dear...wanna talk about it?
Anything you need?
Guest
6th January 2012, 20:44
http://www.surfshot.com/surf-photos/blacks-morning-of-fourth-by-kevin-jara-201957/
www.surfshot.com photo by kevin jara
San Diego coast has been experiencing high surf and surges to last through the weekend -i may go check it out.
Love
Nora
Calz
6th January 2012, 20:52
Just got back from taking the family out for early dinner somewhere nice.
I was quite stunned to hear music played there from a Crosby Stills and Nash live concert. I have never even heard it on radio before. I first recorded it back in "the day" on beta vhs video tape (showing age here) but also have the dvd (Long Time Comin'). Amazing stuff.
Anyway ... the song they played wasn't a big hit but on the concert they pulled in some great aquatic film with dolphins and whales (great for 30-40 years ago). Tribute of sorts to whale hunting ... can bring a tear if you are sensitive and care about our sea brothers and sisters. Thought I would share.
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Calz
6th January 2012, 20:58
Here and now ... :frusty:
No place better on the forum than here (and now) to share if that is what you wish to do ...
:grouphug:
1inMany
6th January 2012, 21:13
I love you guys, I really do. Thank you.
Sometimes things are just too much. I'm allowing the feeling of frustration, and it's pissing me off. Pardon me while I laugh out loud, because that sounds so funny. I just want this to be done already, it is such a struggle sometimes.
Much Love,
eaglespirit
6th January 2012, 21:21
Something is binding, bonding, sticking now, more than ever, from 'up there' to 'down here' and it is becoming more potent and pure as each day unfolds now...listen and act...listen and act...listen and act !
1inMany
6th January 2012, 21:23
eaglespirit...act how?
eaglespirit
6th January 2012, 21:30
eaglespirit...act how?
from Your Inner Voice...act as it nudges...whatever that may be.... a walk on the beach...call that friend...bake that cake...listen to the birds out in the back yard...ACT from that place and trust it fully now : )
modwiz
6th January 2012, 22:17
From the Tower, I have enlisted some help in sending out pulses of Love to everybody.
12461
Very cool indeed, Modwiz.
Being a trend setter I find your head band even more hypnotic than your strobe light belly button.
Couldn't you have placed a couple of bulbs in there, too?
Ulli, it was not meant to be me. I enlisted some help. I am glad you enjoyed my combo of love and mirth.
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Your new avatar is making me think of mierda, and that is getting very close to Meeradas. Are you doing cosmic humor?
Hargh, NICE. :bounce:
Which of the "new avatars" you refer to, i tried three in the last hour... all were similarly "inspiring" :third: [COLOR="darkred"]
[i guess you mean the snakey pink foam, yea? That's kind of a hidden Lord Sid tribute.]
That's what she gets for asking the tree, "So, do you swallow?" :ban::scared::laugh:
OMG.
Playful mood, eh?! Keep goin'.
You have a way of cheering me up easily.
So, what do you do? Will you have to kill us if you tell us? :rolleyes:
Hostili...*cough* erm, hospitality business.
[COLOR="darkslategray"]or is it "hospit[i]ability"?
First of all I will snag an image so you cannot pull a Carmody and scrub it out of sight with your chameleon avatar act :nod:
(Bugger ... won't let me ... wrong file type ... else I am too dense)
Going from memory (which is what again??? :noidea: ) was not this what goes into McNuggets???
[hence the Sid tribute]
Could be wrong ... kinda looks like evidence of a giant flamingo to me ... but what do I know??
12467
Yes, it was the mcnuggets maker pictured.
astrid
6th January 2012, 22:37
From a Vedic astrologer friend of mine this report...
"in a few days we will have an auspicious full moon aligned with sirius the dog star.
The full moon will be trine venus and both are in jupiter ruled stars.
Jupiter is trine mercury so positive communication and spontaneous growth,
as jupiter is very springlike in ashwini nakshatra...
Jupiter is in 11th house in relationship to the moon so it is a time of gains and friendships."
Here and now, just waking up,
feeding animals. Drinking green
smoothie, checking posts.
@Modwiz- noticed we got heard on that
Geryl thread, read update
first page post. One thing certainly to
keep a watch on this year is put an end to
any feeding of their timeline.
Trolls, agents demonics, etcs, have a busy year,
trying to embed their agendas. I'm tipping
several major missions directed alternative
medias way. At least we have had more than
our share of lessons here, and will be a wake
up to such things.
modwiz
6th January 2012, 23:24
I love you guys, I really do. Thank you.
Sometimes things are just too much. I'm allowing the feeling of frustration, and it's pissing me off. Pardon me while I laugh out loud, because that sounds so funny. I just want this to be done already, it is such a struggle sometimes.
Much Love,
It is no more done than the rain is done falling. As an earlier post advised, learn to enjoy dancing in the rain. The biggest part of dynamic spirituality, IMO, is creating healthy boundaries and then enforcing them. Only you can do this. Children are great teachers in this. They are constantly testing boundaries. They even kick them to see what they are made of. Boundaries made of words alone reveal themselves as little more than curtains rather than the walls they need to be. They need to be smart walls with compassionate guards but they must resist the inevitable testings and/or onslaughts of the indignant. There will be times of some peace, but for now the battle for middle earth is not over. As it was in the books this is about the battle for our sovereignty both micro and macro, personal and societal.
modwiz
6th January 2012, 23:32
"I'd turn you into something nasty and slimy if a Diety hadn't already beat me to it".
12457
Nice ... got the Gandalf "thou shall not pass" look going on :thumb:
I would like to nominate attachment 12457 for permanent smiley status. Just so we can say "Thou shall not pass" and post that bad boy. I know some tolkein fans who would really appreciate that!
You can right click it and save it to your computer and use it as an attachment. I love the smiley status thing, but the mods are not animated gif friendly. It is apparently work and might take away from them keeping us safe from nuggetry.
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Meanwhile ... in a thread far far away ...
Some were trying to coax modwiz into having a puppy (to keep him company through 3 days of darkenss etc).
What do the villagers think of my idea?
12470
I think you would look lovely as a companion to that dog. AS A DOG! Ixnay on ogsday.
modwiz
6th January 2012, 23:44
I am also observing that discussing stealth mode has led to more members to utilize this patricular setting.
Yes, it seems to be the in thing, as well as posting while naked. :p
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Meanwhile ... in a thread far far away ...
Some were trying to coax modwiz into having a puppy (to keep him company through 3 days of darkenss etc).
What do the villagers think of my idea?
12470
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0024/6862/files/b-thewizarddogphoto.jpg?112631
Not only does that dog look 'abused'. Look at the carved pumpkin beside/behind him/her. It looks like a punched out face. There are undercurrents of suppressed frustration in this picture.
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I am also observing that discussing stealth mode has led to more members to utilize this patricular setting.
Yes, it seems to be the in thing, as well as posting while naked. :p
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Meanwhile ... in a thread far far away ...
Some were trying to coax modwiz into having a puppy (to keep him company through 3 days of darkenss etc).
What do the villagers think of my idea?
12470
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0024/6862/files/b-thewizarddogphoto.jpg?112631
Not only does that dog look 'abused'. Look at the carves pumpkin beside/behind him/her. It looks like a punched out face. There are undercurrents of suppressed frustration in this picture.
I do have a blue hat somewhere. I do have a picture of it too. I will find it and post it. It is my Disney wiz look.
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Thing about going stealth is the jig is up when they "come out" to post.
Kinda like the Klingon Bird of Prey needs to decloak to fire it's weapons (or did I just make that up?).
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Cloaked vessels must decloak to fire weapons. There were a few special models that could fire while cloaked. Roddenberry's black projects.
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Here and now I'm at home in beautiful SUNNY Dublin listening to James Brown and I feel like dancing.0WWkWDsZjbM
If you can listen to James Brown and not feel like dancing you died and don't know it yet.
modwiz
7th January 2012, 00:06
Here and now...I'm thinking...
The energy travels like a spark on a beach of gunpowder
Who is Me? Is Me the ego? Is Me the Mini-Me? Is Me the Whole? Is the process of wanting occurring for the ego...the Mini-Me...the Whole? Not all dreamers travel the same dreams, so is dreaming the little voice? Do we, whichever we, bring all potential? Or do we eaches bring a specific potential?
Much Love,
Now, that is, a metaphor.
Who is me? Me is Soul, which is omnipresent in every possible place and time that can be imagined. Is that the proper focus once you know that?
My answer is that the All that we are has made an uncountable number of choices, because choice is power. The All has chosen to be a star, ant, you, me, a dog, an ocean, etc. It is interesting to watch ourselves on a video, is it not? Different perspective than being in the body. All of this leads to the answer that I will offer to your question to, who is me? If we are All then focusing on the me that the All chose to manifest as is where the point of power and greatest validity lie in. Working with the frailties and moral questions of being human is quite a task to pull of with some grace and elegance, all while being in your power. The knowledge of our greater being allows us to lead life with dignity, rather than clawing and clinging to it like it is the only existence we will ever know. Explore the many ways the awesome power and beauty of the cosmos can be expressed through your current form, in your current life situation. Allow the greater knowledge of our timelessness and being a part of all things be the bedrock and springboard for the seemingly tiny and insignificant collection of protoplasm and bones held together in a tunic of skin, to vault ourselves into significance and meaning by experiencing the richness of emotional being through compassion in action and gratitude of the Creation.
Just some thoughts about who we are.
modwiz
7th January 2012, 00:14
Here's something I just flat-out don't get. My mind seems to process things that are logical, a sequence or an order of things. My Mini-Me or Whole seems to know things that my mind may not be able to grasp. But then, apparently, my mind has to go back and search for the logical, or the sequence and order, or what I know so that it can catch up. Can't I just fast forward this whole mind thing? People use tools to get where they are going...meditation, travels, non-3d experiences. But I don't have any of those...how is it I am able to know things that I have not understood and set out on a path to accomplish? That's bass-ackwards. And then, after that one, if I know, then why is it so difficult to learn? That just slows down the knowing because I have to catch up before I can know more. Does this crap make any sense?
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Meeradas, that video is totally freaky. In a good way, of course...
That part is 100% mind-f*ck. Sequence is incon-sequential. It is how the ego works and is limiting. Microscopes and telescopes are great tools but suck for seeing the wholistic view of things. Trying to keep a record, in time or sequence, of how things come to be is a sure to lose the way or thread you are following. The minutiae is a distraction, unless the minutiae is what you seek.
modwiz
7th January 2012, 00:21
Aha...going anywhere is leaving the mind behind, isn't it? So...I'm holding on to my mind. Hmmmmm....
well...except for when I dream....unless that is not any type of travel and is only another, deeper layer of mind processing 3d crud...
As I follow you, 1, there seems to be a tendency to slice and dice concepts. This is the ego at work, Freudian analysis at work. He came from the biological sciences and approached the mind like a frog on the dissecting table. His analysis could pull out each part and explain it s function, like a kidney or calf muscle. What his analysis could not do was put the parts back, all cleaned up, tickle the frog on the tush and send it back to productively eating mosquitoes in a pond. There is value in knowing parts and their functions but it is a process to be used very judiciously and only when a better option does not present itself. When it comes to our psyches, it would appear that the better options are available in most simulations.
I should take a breather. I have had entirely too much to say and to one person as well. My apologies if it has been overbearing.
Cottage Rose
7th January 2012, 00:41
Not only does that dog look 'abused'. Look at the carves pumpkin beside/behind him/her. It looks like a punched out face. There are undercurrents of suppressed frustration in this picture.
Yes. I agree. Some whimsical dogs truly enjoy wearing hats, but that dear one looks as if he is upset about losing his dignity and being made to feel foolish. :luv:
Cottage Rose
7th January 2012, 00:46
Aha...going anywhere is leaving the mind behind, isn't it? So...I'm holding on to my mind. Hmmmmm....
well...except for when I dream....unless that is not any type of travel and is only another, deeper layer of mind processing 3d crud...
As I follow you, 1, there seems to be a tendency to slice and dice concepts. This is the ego at work, Freudian analysis at work. He came from the biological sciences and approached the mind like a frog on the dissecting table. His analysis could pull out each part and explain it s function, like a kidney or calf muscle. What his analysis could not do was put the parts back, all cleaned up, tickle the frog on the tush and send it back to productively eating mosquitoes in a pond. There is value in knowing parts and their functions but it is a process to be used very judiciously and only when a better option does not present itself. When it comes to our psyches, it would appear that the better options are available in most simulations.
I should take a breather. I have had entirely too much to say and to one person as well. My apologies if it has been overbearing.
Au contraire.....you are on a roll.
Cottage Rose
7th January 2012, 00:49
@ Prefuse 73 - Pitu
Many thanks for this tune. It will be my soundtrack for the evening.
dan33
7th January 2012, 01:14
M O D.... W I Z.....Z....Z ;)
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Guest
7th January 2012, 02:15
My horrorscope for today said, the universe may give you a get out jail free card -LOL
Ate at a Chinese restaurant -my fortune cookie said, an aura of glamour and mystery surrounds your events this week.
As I "remember" a few years back, a dragon made itself known to me, I was a little taken aback by it, (dragons are strong, mysterious & powerful creatures) it was white/silver with a strange silver glow to it and didn't feel malevolent to me -I just accepted it and went on with my life.... back to remembering. The dreams I have been having about surge protectors.... and everyone's take on dreams in the last few pages and the reference to middle earth.... prompted me into remembering..... yes there is a lot going on in the middle earth right now -I keep experiencing and seeing several energies and entities clashing.
Modwiz, I do not see it as saying too much. I see the compassionate, intelligent, clear thinking humanitarian Aquarius coming out -appreciate it very much. Good to see you on fire.
Love
Nora
dan33
7th January 2012, 02:17
here and now, I remember it ..... mid eighties, I wrote an article KEN RUSELL STARTS THE SHOOTING CROWLEY.All invented. I send it to a friend ... and she gave it to a journalist.
Two weeks later, I received a phone call Daniel, look at the newspaper
I read in the newspaper Ken Russell starts the biography of Crowley.
My article has been leaked, I thought. Wow!
I wrote to the author of the news. He replied me, I have invented it, the newspaper is also for this. ha, ha
We both have the same idea.
Enrique Vila Matas was the journalist http://www.enriquevilamatas.com/autobiografia.html
It was all a coincidence.
Later, i have several nightmares with this guy, Aleister. The stars help me in those dreams. Like in Close Encounters of the third Kind.... the stars changed the positions, moving....
Also i dreamed with the opening credits of CROWLEY. It was like a Walt Disney opening. Very Sharp letters, very soft colors.
astrid
7th January 2012, 02:54
Me here and now..
Sun Trine Uranus
"Making discoveries
This is an excellent day for engaging in new activities and for making discoveries
about yourself and the world around you. Your life now has an exciting quality
that is not always present. Take advantage of this excitement to learn
about yourself in ways that are not usually possible. Your heightened perception
of your world will help you make changes with a complete understanding
of how the various parts of your life are interrelated.
This is a good influence for studying any discipline that can reveal new
and stimulating aspects of the universe. It favors the study of science,
technical disciplines, astrology or other branches of the occult.
You want to broaden your understanding, and the more exciting your study,
the more actively you will pursue it."
eaglespirit
7th January 2012, 04:31
Here's something I just flat-out don't get. My mind seems to process things that are logical, a sequence or an order of things. My Mini-Me or Whole seems to know things that my mind may not be able to grasp. But then, apparently, my mind has to go back and search for the logical, or the sequence and order, or what I know so that it can catch up. Can't I just fast forward this whole mind thing? People use tools to get where they are going...meditation, travels, non-3d experiences. But I don't have any of those...how is it I am able to know things that I have not understood and set out on a path to accomplish? That's bass-ackwards. And then, after that one, if I know, then why is it so difficult to learn? That just slows down the knowing because I have to catch up before I can know more. Does this crap make any sense?
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Meeradas, that video is totally freaky. In a good way, of course...
That part is 100% mind-f*ck. Sequence is incon-sequential. It is how the ego works and is limiting. Microscopes and telescopes are great tools but suck for seeing the wholistic view of things. Trying to keep a record, in time or sequence, of how things come to be is a sure to lose the way or thread you are following. The minutiae is a distraction, unless the minutiae is what you seek.
Had quite an interesting vision/higher torsion dream that awoke me with a revelation of a prior happening on that Indian hill showing me/we have the key...intense, kind of a rock 'em sock em 2 in 1 jolt. Happened that few weeks in 1/2007 when I was vibrating sky-high.
From the 'key' delivery without conclusion 2 days prior to the jolt I had loved ones and happenings swimming around in my brain as I was attempting to put them in sequential order as to how to cleanse and heal those matters and make them right to the rhythm of my 'correction' of alignment of my doings while stepping into a higher methodology...In that conclusion vision dream I was putting things in order alphabetically, chronologically, systematically, upside down, rightside up, backwards, forwards, hair color, eye color, first names, last names, severity of my personal infraction, degree of pain caused, degree of pain felt, whose on first, whats on second...geeesshhhh...and as the dream concluded my head was literraly/physically thrashed back and forth back and forth on the pillow for quite a bit of rock and rolling until...untill I woke up in an alarming jolt to sit up position in the bed and..and ok, ok,ok I get it...I get it...and it came down to the simple line delivery "Unconditional Love with Wisdom"...You don't need no order you banana bone just go live it and write the script and conclude all this out there in real time in real life(another vision conclusion)...just do it, ya know...wwwild and wonderful man.
And that's it..THAT'S IT..."Listen and Live It"...all else will simply fall in place in whatever synchronistic manner need BE for fruition : )
WoooHooooooo!!!
Carmody
7th January 2012, 05:14
@ Prefuse 73 - Pitu
Many thanks for this tune. It will be my soundtrack for the evening.
glEplC4LmcM
meeradas
7th January 2012, 07:19
Tho[ro]ugh[ly] (i) enjoyed that,
i like this vid a bit more, @ the moment:
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ViralSpiral
7th January 2012, 07:46
Both BEAUTIFUL. Thank you
How about this one? Full screen :)
7rOMGIbY-9s
The "tags" go away.....
Calz
7th January 2012, 11:58
Both BEAUTIFUL. Thank you
How about this one? Full screen :)
7rOMGIbY-9s
The "tags" go away.....
Thanks Viral.
I just love taking those occasional trips through the Universe. Puts things back into perspective and reminds us of the overwhelming immensity of it all. Great inspiration and reminder of so many untold mysteries.
Calz
7th January 2012, 12:01
modwiz on a roll indeed.
5 (count 'em) 5 of these little guys in one post???
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Either some serious machine gun posting or else showing off his ability to operate outside of time as we understand it.
Calz
7th January 2012, 12:05
Special showing ... front row seats for the village. Something fun from Michael Tellinger (distributed by Gilliland). Short and sweet.
Michael Tellinger shows off what could One of the best pieces of evidence that there were giants on Earth a long, long time ago. Geologists have marvelled at this giant foot print in rough granite, about 4 feet long. It is located in South Africa, near the town of Mpaluzi, close to the Swaziland border. It is estimated to be between 200 million and 3 Billion years old because of our current understanding of the formation of granites in Earth's history.
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Ernie Nemeth
7th January 2012, 14:40
Wow, I wish I had had such an esteemed group leading me through the morass of conflicting inputs during my initial forray into these subjects of self discovery and improvement.
1, you are really fortunate, and I know you appreciate it.
When I could finally not take the frustration of trying to making sense of the personal transformation on my own, I was lead to an ACIM study group. I would spend the next year with them (2005). There I met many wonderful people. The leader of the group, and his wife, were incredibly gifted individuals. I went to a few weekend seminars and then took their first year Practitioner's course. They called their workshops and methods a transpersonal experiential philosophy.
It is there that I met Stan Endersby. I only took the first year of the course, Stan completed all three years. And I know a handful of others who completed the course as well. He had an uphill battle to be recognized and compensated for his contribution to Canada's music scene. When he called me last week, he had finally gotten that recognition, not only in the documentary but in the hall of fame somewhere, can't remember. His residuals (payments for recordings and re-releases and such) were ironed out a bit of a while back now. And the other more famous performers from his era are now calling him for guest appearances on their tours, which they always did do - but now he gets paid for it as well, it's not just a favor for a fellow musician. Stan is an amazing man, larger than life, very powerful, extremely talented - and he's finally coming into his own. Well done Stan! I love you, man.
On another note, I must say, if it weren't for this thread, here and now, I do not think I would still be on this site. Most of the other threads are so sappy, so antagonistic, so controversial, so unbelievable, so fringe as to be an insult to the word trivial. Rarely something to comment on, unless one of you guys have been there before me, that is. Then there is at least a sane voice to counter or add to. Not that there aren't some amazing people elsewhere on the forum, of course. It's just that I'm done with speculations and grasping at straws - and that's what most of the threads seems to do. Not for me, thanks. What is, is. And what will be, will be. That's good enough for me. No fear, no regrets. So bring it on!
Landed my first job of the year (one week project, knob and tube rewire). Off to work.
Love to all,
Ernie
Ernie Nemeth
7th January 2012, 14:48
Meant to respond to I forget who, sorry (was it 1in many?), with this poem.
IMAGINATION
I wonder what would become of me
If I surrendered my ego,
And if I loved the world I know,
What would I truly see?
I ponder how it would affect me
When I realize we’re the same,
Beneath the hype before the blame,
We’re all born to be free.
I picture a new and happy me,
My ego no longer my own,
What’s freely willed is further grown
‘Till all live happily.
The vision for this new fulfilled me
Hinges upon all the others,
You, my sisters and my brothers,
Preceed my destiny.
The image held of this joyful me
Would go out of the way to give aid,
And revel in the progress made
By those helped to glory.
My notion of the new age new me
Precludes judgement of all mankind,
Helps all explore and test and find
The life they choose to be.
I fancy that this enlightened me
Would be transformed, turned inside out,
Flipped around then come about,
For ME upside down is WE.
Belle
7th January 2012, 14:59
What a beautiful morning! Bright sunshine...blue skies. A warm 46F (relatively speaking, of course) for this time of year. So happy to be.
Caught up on several pages of here and now. Reading through in one sitting, I can feel the ebb and flow of the conversations and find it soothing.
What comes to mind is allow. Allow things to be just as they are and simply observe. A feeling here and a thought there, and observe the slight shift. I see my part in this dream we live in and how we each affect it...like tossing a pebble in the water causes ripples to ebb and flow outward, all we are ripples through time and space. No struggle. No need to control.
Holding space and allowing my inner peace and joy to flow...here and now.
ulli
7th January 2012, 15:00
modwiz on a roll indeed.
5 (count 'em) 5 of these little guys in one post???
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Either some serious machine gun posting or else showing off his ability to operate outside of time as we understand it.
It's quite likely he is operating outside of time, I agree with you there.
Only The Here and Now exists for him, when he goes there,
which is illustrated by his "incon-sequential" comment.
No more flowing from here to there, nor now to then.
I'll be watching him, though, as there seems to be dog-ma creeping in.
If he gets worse I'll be forced to use my atomizer, but first I'll try the big stick.
But then again, he might have been asking for trouble on purpose having carefully planned this provocation.
A very aquarian thing to do.
In which case there is no need for a response other than letting him know how transparent he is. ;)
Wizzard my azz. ;)
Calz
7th January 2012, 15:18
If he gets worse I'll be forced to use my atomizer
Oh my ... that word again.:shocked:
Has not the war to end all wars already been waged??? :nod:
12492
Calz
7th January 2012, 15:51
This one is well done. Some feel that "spamming" up youtubes is a cop out ... but I could not approach conveying what is being brought across here (and now) regardless of how many 5000 word limit posts I concatenated.
lsY4f6sV8VI
9eagle9
7th January 2012, 15:55
It is very warm here too, it was high fifties/ low sixties yesterday and today looks like it going to do a rinse and repeat today of the oddly warm weather we've been having--to the point my daugher asked if the equator had flipped. More concerned about getting stick in mud than in the snow... We had some wintery weather in December , for the most part we get more rain than snow.... Its not been cold enough to have the snow stick, or to even freeze the ground (seas--oceans--POOLs of mud here) but this beyond what anyone could hope for in a mild winter and i'm loving it. But hey didn't everyone say 2012 was going to bring great earth changes..lol. It's going to be unseasonably warm for the next two weeks as well so I'm pushing that we are to skip winter all together. I took the Nightmare out for a ride under the almost full moon last night and it was just like being out in early spring. So yeah, I'm just allowing the weather, not crazy, not weird, just allowing. I'm not above tampering with the weather but hey when you don't have to....all the better.
What a beautiful morning! Bright sunshine...blue skies. A warm 46F (relatively speaking, of course) for this time of year. So happy to be.
Caught up on several pages of here and now. Reading through in one sitting, I can feel the ebb and flow of the conversations and find it soothing.
What comes to mind is allow. Allow things to be just as they are and simply observe. A feeling here and a thought there, and observe the slight shift. I see my part in this dream we live in and how we each affect it...like tossing a pebble in the water causes ripples to ebb and flow outward, all we are ripples through time and space. No struggle. No need to control.
Holding space and allowing my inner peace and joy to flow...here and now.
Belle
7th January 2012, 16:35
This one is well done. Some feel that "spamming" up youtubes is a cop out ... but I could not approach conveying what is being brought across here (and now) regardless of how many 5000 word limit posts I concatenated.
lsY4f6sV8VI
This vid is no cop out, Calz. Perhaps should be required viewing for all members of Avalon? Imagine the difference that would occur...the village would need many more houses and hotels! Infinite possibilities of quality, growth and change, not only here but in the world as a whole as well.
Well done. Thanks.
ulli
7th January 2012, 17:23
If he gets worse I'll be forced to use my atomizer
Oh my ... that word again.:shocked:
Has not the war to end all wars already been waged??? :nod:
12492
That's not the kind of war I had in mind.
Here is a sneak preview of my atomizer. Just don't tell Modwiz.
http://s4.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/DBC0E03C.jpg
Calz
7th January 2012, 17:28
That's not the kind of war I had in mind.
Here is a sneak preview of my atomizer. Just don't tell Modwiz.
http://s4.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/DBC0E03C.jpg
Oh nicely played m' queen :haha:
I shall slink back to the shadows then :)
... or will I??? :eyebrows:
astrid
7th January 2012, 20:39
Awoke to gorgeous summer rain here .
Heavy and cleansing .
Yesterday I started getting ready for study
which led me to having a clean up .
Reorganized my bedroom, more altar spaces
and less clutter . I awoke to a whole different
space and much better energy flow, i even slept the
night through for a change.
Really excited about study it's going to give me the
structure i need . What's more encouraging is that I'm
thinking about money making again . When I blocked
out my week time wise I gave myself 3 energy out
days 3 energy in days and one day of balance.
Thought that was an interesting , spirit driven take
on energy management . They are teaching me well.
Went through first month of class notes and printed
them out . Teacher is organized thankfully will make
up for me being anything but . Also very anti guru
and dogma, so far all things pointing towards it
being a good fit.
Just then a raven crows in the distance .
dan33
7th January 2012, 21:13
Much to my surpise when I watched Contact that gimboling gizmo they constructed in the movie was exactly, to a T, the same energy device I was given in my writing--just on a much larger scale. I hope someone sees that thing for what its since I haven't a clue ....(Carmody?)
One of my favorite films. Many coincidences or "shocks" with CONTACT. I think that movie could be a little black hole in my time line. :) You take this movie out, the present will be different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTlGS31-uAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PYA3CQoG4
CARMODY has a role in CONTACT..... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kYRvABhHAY
modwiz
7th January 2012, 21:42
It is very warm here too, it was high fifties/ low sixties yesterday and today looks like it going to do a rinse and repeat today of the oddly warm weather we've been having--to the point my daugher asked if the equator had flipped. More concerned about getting stick in mud than in the snow... We had some wintery weather in December , for the most part we get more rain than snow.... Its not been cold enough to have the snow stick, or to even freeze the ground (seas--oceans--POOLs of mud here) but this beyond what anyone could hope for in a mild winter and i'm loving it. But hey didn't everyone say 2012 was going to bring great earth changes..lol. It's going to be unseasonably warm for the next two weeks as well so I'm pushing that we are to skip winter all together. I took the Nightmare out for a ride under the almost full moon last night and it was just like being out in early spring. So yeah, I'm just allowing the weather, not crazy, not weird, just allowing. I'm not above tampering with the weather but hey when you don't have to....all the better.
What a beautiful morning! Bright sunshine...blue skies. A warm 46F (relatively speaking, of course) for this time of year. So happy to be.
Caught up on several pages of here and now. Reading through in one sitting, I can feel the ebb and flow of the conversations and find it soothing.
What comes to mind is allow. Allow things to be just as they are and simply observe. A feeling here and a thought there, and observe the slight shift. I see my part in this dream we live in and how we each affect it...like tossing a pebble in the water causes ripples to ebb and flow outward, all we are ripples through time and space. No struggle. No need to control.
Holding space and allowing my inner peace and joy to flow...here and now.
I am loving our mild Winter. I am thanking Her every day and night for the sweetness of it all. I accede that there might need to be a few weeks of freeze temperatures so the Maples can recharge themselves. I am not a fan of the air biting me skin and threatening frostbite.
dan33
7th January 2012, 21:46
Reading about mushrooms by modwiz.... i've rescued a post in King Anthony's "Inusual Experiences"
THE AYAHUASCA EXPERIENCE
Some years ago i attended on an ayahuasca's "ritual" (Ayahuasca is any of various psychoactive infusions or decoctions prepared from the Banisteriopsis spp. vine, usually mixed with the leaves of dimethyltryptamine-containing species of shrubs from the Psychotria genus")
After 30 minutes of drinking the brew, my inner world changed. The first I saw-experienced, was a technological room, full of greenish light, like you see through an infrared camera. There were the "grays" experimenting with human beings. There was no emotion on this "step". The next one, and so on, where brightness and colorful. On one stage, i enterded on an egyptian temple. I't was a virtual labyrinth tour, full of colors, like on a Disney 3D Digital movie. The hierogliphs were so "crispy" that i would draw ... so easily (then). The tour ended breaking a dome, and fly away
dan33
7th January 2012, 22:36
Oh, and of course, Contact. Even though I'm angry at Carl Sagan for what he said about astrology...but I guess "they" forced him to do that, too.
yes, I remember Carl Sagan talking about astrology ... reading the horoscope of the newspaper and trivialized it. COSMOS was a great event. It was the first series that I recorded on VHS .... or maybe Brideshead Revisited. The VTR weighed 6 kilos .... and it still works after thirty years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iunr4B4wfDA
Magnificent opening.... wow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7n71pm0K04
dan33
7th January 2012, 22:50
MUST BE ABLE TO IMPROVISE
Yesterday i laugh a lot watching this scene again. A masterpiece of improvisation.
Oh, Ulli, De Niro is Leo. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=D7fER8ogiNo
(HI MOM. Brian De Palma)
ulli
7th January 2012, 23:20
MUST BE ABLE TO IMPROVISE
Yesterday i laugh a lot watching this scene again. A masterpiece of improvisation.
Oh, Ulli, De Niro is Leo. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=D7fER8ogiNo
(HI MOM. Brian De Palma)
I had a laugh, too...thinking about my earlier comment about that big stick....
astrid
8th January 2012, 00:37
Never seen Contact,
i will put that on my to do list for today.
Love De Niro, watched Wag the Dog for the first time the
other day, can't believe i missed that one, what a film.
This just crossed my path,
http://www.godvine.com/Miraculous-Outcome-After-a-Boy-Falls-15-Feet-997.html
"Miraculous Outcome After a Boy Falls 15 Feet"
olgraybear
8th January 2012, 00:51
Never seen Contact,
i will put that on my to do list for today.
Love De Niro, watched Wag the Dog for the first time the
other day, can't believe i missed that one, what a film.
This just crossed my path,
http://www.godvine.com/Miraculous-Outcome-After-a-Boy-Falls-15-Feet-997.html
"Miraculous Outcome After a Boy Falls 15 Feet"
Yes indeed, I agree with you astrid,
that child is lucky, kuddos for that gent
astrid
8th January 2012, 00:53
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dan33
8th January 2012, 01:29
Never seen Contact,
i will put that on my to do list for today.
Love De Niro, watched Wag the Dog for the first time the
other day, can't believe i missed that one, what a film.
:) so naive and funny. (GREETINGS. Brian De Palma)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqRCbnJqiMc&feature=related
the guy obsessed with jfk assassination, appears later in PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE, Directed by Brian De Palma, again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDX5Fs2ewQE
his style, his class .... only comparable to Baryshnikov or Cary Grant.
:)
Cottage Rose
8th January 2012, 01:55
I had an unusual dream last night...... I was back working at a Treasury Agency. As often occurred due to changing polictical climates, a restructuring of departments was in progress. My boss and I were moving to a new area of the building. Construction of offices was ongoing and movers and workers were everywhere. As often occurred, my desk was moved first so that I could arrange the new office.
I was upset for several reasons: Still another restructuring of departments, my new area would be among strangers instead of friends, an upper floor panoramic view I had grown to love was being replaced by the view of a new futuristic monorail system on that side of the building. (This is not completely unusual because my actual former office area had a monorail system, but it was mostly used by tourists. And, I lived in a nearby complex where the monorail system was eye level in the distance from my balcony creating a Jetsons type ambiance.) But, the rail in this dream was extremely high speed, just a shiny blurr running at frequent intervals outside the window. Automatic doors opened for large groups of embarking and departing passengers within the view of my temporary desk.
In the interim, it was necessary to walk a long distance several times a day to communicate with my boss and take care of business. On one such time he handed me a crystal decanter with one of those gold tags on a chain identifying the contents. The engraving read, "Monatomic Gold". He asked me to keep the decanter at my desk and feel free to use as much as I wanted. Arriving back at my desk, I moved some files to the floor and set the decanter down on a corner while pondering this odd occurrence.
Later, my boss hurried by saying he would be away at a meeting for several days. He boarded the monorail and sped away. I sat quietly for a moment, then poured some of the monatomic gold into an empty coffee cup and sipped it.... Disorientation shifted into transcendence and the dream ended.
ulli
8th January 2012, 02:04
That's not the kind of war I had in mind.
Here is a sneak preview of my atomizer. Just don't tell Modwiz.
http://s4.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/DBC0E03C.jpg
Oh nicely played m' queen :haha:
I shall slink back to the shadows then :)
... or will I??? :eyebrows:
There are no shadowy corners left in our brightly lit Village, as you well know.
ulli
8th January 2012, 02:10
I had an unusual dream last night...... I was back working at a Treasury Agency. As often occurred due to changing polictical climates, a restructuring of departments was in progress. My boss and I were moving to a new area of the building. Construction of offices was ongoing and movers and workers were everywhere. As often occurred, my desk was moved first so that I could arrange the new office.
I was upset for several reasons: Still another restructuring of departments, my new area would be among strangers instead of friends, an upper floor panoramic view I had grown to love was being replaced by the view of a new futuristic monorail system on that side of the building. (This is not completely unusual because my actual former office area had a monorail system, but it was mostly used by tourists. And, I lived in a nearby complex where the monorail system was eye level in the distance from my balcony creating a Jetsons type ambiance.) But, the rail in this dream was extremely high speed, just a shiny blurr running at frequent intervals outside the window. Automatic doors opened for large groups of embarking and departing passengers within the view of my temporary desk.
In the interim, it was necessary to walk a long distance several times a day to communicate with my boss and take care of business. On one such time he handed me a crystal decanter with one of those gold tags on a chain identifying the contents. The engraving read, "Monatomic Gold". He asked me to keep the decanter at my desk and feel free to use as much as I wanted. Arriving back at my desk, I moved some files to the floor and set the decanter down on a corner while pondering this odd occurrence.
Later, my boss hurried by saying he would be away at a meeting for several days. He boarded the monorail and sped away. I sat quietly for a moment, then poured some of the monatomic gold into an empty coffee cup and sipped it.... Disorientation shifted into transcendence and the dream ended.
I feel this is a premonition dream.
Your boss represents your will...the decision making you, the part of you that takes charge.
The monorail represents high speed progress in your life...you moving ahead swiftly.
Monatomic gold, monorail, all this mono stuff...is about single mindedness?
Entering a busy time with your business?
Cottage Rose
8th January 2012, 02:19
I had an unusual dream last night...... I was back working at a Treasury Agency. As often occurred due to changing polictical climates, a restructuring of departments was in progress. My boss and I were moving to a new area of the building. Construction of offices was ongoing and movers and workers were everywhere. As often occurred, my desk was moved first so that I could arrange the new office.
I was upset for several reasons: Still another restructuring of departments, my new area would be among strangers instead of friends, an upper floor panoramic view I had grown to love was being replaced by the view of a new futuristic monorail system on that side of the building. (This is not completely unusual because my actual former office area had a monorail system, but it was mostly used by tourists. And, I lived in a nearby complex where the monorail system was eye level in the distance from my balcony creating a Jetsons type ambiance.) But, the rail in this dream was extremely high speed, just a shiny blurr running at frequent intervals outside the window. Automatic doors opened for large groups of embarking and departing passengers within the view of my temporary desk.
In the interim, it was necessary to walk a long distance several times a day to communicate with my boss and take care of business. On one such time he handed me a crystal decanter with one of those gold tags on a chain identifying the contents. The engraving read, "Monatomic Gold". He asked me to keep the decanter at my desk and feel free to use as much as I wanted. Arriving back at my desk, I moved some files to the floor and set the decanter down on a corner while pondering this odd occurrence.
Later, my boss hurried by saying he would be away at a meeting for several days. He boarded the monorail and sped away. I sat quietly for a moment, then poured some of the monatomic gold into an empty coffee cup and sipped it.... Disorientation shifted into transcendence and the dream ended.
I feel this is a premonition dream.
Your boss represents your will...the decision making you, the part of you that takes charge.
The monorail represents high speed progress in your life...you moving ahead swiftly.
Monatomic gold, monorail, all this mono stuff...is about single mindedness?
Entering a busy time with your business?
No, Ulli. I related to Astrid when she said she has a knack for business, but no drive for moneymaking at the present time.
I stepped away from my business a couple of years ago.
Heather2017
8th January 2012, 03:13
Here and now, enjoying the interview (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/06/the-unicus-radio-hour) with Alex Collier. A few Avalonians called in.
Hope all villagers are well.
dan33
8th January 2012, 03:18
so, the village is on dreaming state, working on the upper levels....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq8hIQvq4LU&list=FLs22LTrdp7k_qPbZ8sWdqSQ&index=4&feature=plpp_video
down here trying to have the best possible
Guest
8th January 2012, 04:33
I had an unusual dream last night...... I was back working at a Treasury Agency. As often occurred due to changing polictical climates, a restructuring of departments was in progress. My boss and I were moving to a new area of the building. Construction of offices was ongoing and movers and workers were everywhere. As often occurred, my desk was moved first so that I could arrange the new office.
I was upset for several reasons: Still another restructuring of departments, my new area would be among strangers instead of friends, an upper floor panoramic view I had grown to love was being replaced by the view of a new futuristic monorail system on that side of the building. (This is not completely unusual because my actual former office area had a monorail system, but it was mostly used by tourists. And, I lived in a nearby complex where the monorail system was eye level in the distance from my balcony creating a Jetsons type ambiance.) But, the rail in this dream was extremely high speed, just a shiny blurr running at frequent intervals outside the window. Automatic doors opened for large groups of embarking and departing passengers within the view of my temporary desk.
In the interim, it was necessary to walk a long distance several times a day to communicate with my boss and take care of business. On one such time he handed me a crystal decanter with one of those gold tags on a chain identifying the contents. The engraving read, "Monatomic Gold". He asked me to keep the decanter at my desk and feel free to use as much as I wanted. Arriving back at my desk, I moved some files to the floor and set the decanter down on a corner while pondering this odd occurrence.
Later, my boss hurried by saying he would be away at a meeting for several days. He boarded the monorail and sped away. I sat quietly for a moment, then poured some of the monatomic gold into an empty coffee cup and sipped it.... Disorientation shifted into transcendence and the dream ended.
This is a great dream Cottage Rose
this is your dream and i am not a dream interpreter please take what i say with a grain of salt and just adding my perspective, but i would say this is a dream of integration of your spirit/Spirit; your boss is you, your upset because you were leaving your friends -parts of you that you may not need anymore/or they are integrating and the view is different a different view point. Spirit and your spirit created form, the past, moving up to another office as a reference point for you to integrate spirit and be able to access a plane(s) & dimension(s) that have finer vibrations -hence the monatomics. Looks like you got alot all in one full swoop -recapitulation, present and future. Your thinking about this "odd occurrence" keeps you connected to the physical -your boss/spirit leaving allows you choice / feeling dis-oriented like reorganization/ you chose to integrate more micro/macro the monatomics. Really cool dream.
Love
Nora
we are all related
eaglespirit
8th January 2012, 05:15
The Road of Higher Awareness...no need for pavement from Here and Now
http://api.ning.com/files/kCncElaMrEjnc1eHIuEurwJ6NlkjCDoGH7yAg40zL9CIh5nqP6OkxdHQsrrJC-BHlmmxj0lFUVBLpmtoguIf6-6ZRNzttD8o/DigitalfeainneAnotherWorld.jpg
Guest
8th January 2012, 08:09
Here and now the moon is overhead forest is quiet and still; the air is cold and i hear the wind gently blowing through the leaves. Put the last log on the fire for night.
Love
Nora
we are all related
meeradas
8th January 2012, 08:12
Here and now the moon is overhead forest is quiet and still; the air is cold and i hear the wind gently blowing through the leaves. Put the last log on the fire for night.
Love
Nora,
did you realize how STRONG these words vibrate?!?
meeradas
8th January 2012, 08:32
Here and now, inspired by our modwiz,
i have to post this:
cgvRj3f1iVw
Not feeling down at all,
just marvelling at how
feeling down can inspire
such beauty and warmth.
Peaceful. I feel home in this.
and, lyrics are full-on "here and now" style.
I bet writing took about song length's time.
Have a smooth Sunday, villagers.
modwiz
8th January 2012, 09:06
Here and now enjoying a flawless Full Moon sky is clear except for playful wisps of clouds on occasional gusts of wind. The temperatures are above freezing and my lawn is snow free. Just the way I like it. Just finished listening to the King's X song, so generously posted by meeradas. My planets suck a little but wizzy ain't playin'. Just a little bit of unpleasantness like a wet cat rubbing up against you. It isn't all bad.
Rantaak
8th January 2012, 09:29
I went on a bike ride today and subsequently discovered how to use iMovie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2VMwUAxNRo
Edit: That's my epic music playing in the background.
write4change
8th January 2012, 09:31
Just took dog I am fostering for a walk at midnight under the full moon. Quiet, clear, and calm a rarity where I live in LA. It has been that way on the whole for the last week--totally out of character. Min Chi has now been gone for three days. She left like she came-- of her own free will. For whatever reasons, this house is not what she had in mind. I have met a lot of queens like her. She never really bonded with Sam. Never slept with him, cleaned him or vice versa.
A week ago I committed to fostering a dog from Thailand. Apparently, the government there cracked down on puppy farms breeding to use the fur for coats. Something Asians have no aversion to unlike Americans. So this rescue organization here in LA has been flying them here by the plane load. They say she is a type of pharaoh hound. She looks a lot like a black and tan basenji. She came here at two months and is now 8 months. She has lived her entire life essentially in a crate. I have to pry her out to take her for a walk. The first walk was a half a block in which she crawled. At midnight she walked in circles around me--so that is progress. She won't sit at my feet but she will sit calmly in my lap. The rescue people carry her from place to place as they do not have time with so many dogs to teach them anything.
She has a new fleecy blanket, two cuddly toys, and some small leather chew bones which she seems to like best. She and Sam have smelled one another. No hissy or barking etc. Silence. Sam is really giving me the evil eye and while he is not a lap cat. He apparently does not want to share his home. He is not on my lap but at my feet staring into the dog cave. He is going to have to get used to the fact I will keep his life interesting. LOL Dog is named Kimba.
Marianne
8th January 2012, 12:52
Malvin Artley is an Australian astrologer, and I've received his periodic letters for several years now. Just received Capricorn Solar Festival 2012 today and wanted to share a part of it. It's long, so I won't post it all here. His website (www.malvinartley.com) isn't being updated regularly, as I believe he is still on sabbatical. You can sign up on the website and receive his occasional letters.
In this one he is talking about 2012, world conditions, and suffering/enlightenment.
... If we look at this idea of ascension in consciousness not in terms of a year or specific point in time, but in terms of a gradual evolution over a period of lifetimes, then the whole idea of 2012 as the start of a ‘new earth’, ‘end times’ and ‘ascension’ takes on its true meaning, in my way of thinking. Perhaps the first decades of the 21st Century do indeed mark the beginnings of the end times – the point that brings many people back to a sense of what is real and genuine about life, that takes us away from meaningless activities (like spending the bulk of one’s leisure time in front of a computer screen, i-phone or a television) – those ‘end times’ actually meaning the gradual ending of the roots of our suffering.
The funny thing about suffering (I can hear you laughing now) is that it eventually ushers us to the path of happiness. Do we suffer from financial woes, broken loves, lost dreams, bad health, irritating neighbors, a crashed app or computer, or the whole host of ills that make up the demons that daily torment us? Let’s face it – the world can be a fairly irritating place a lot of the time. Or, do we face and cast those castigating demons onto the burning ground (the only true hell), take up our cross and ascend the path (another Capricornian rite of passage) that leads to lasting happiness – our own self-realization? In the end, that missed email or TV show, the bad date, the neighbor’s barking dog and our irritation over them only serve to increase our own sense of torment at the hands of others, when in reality it is our own lack of self-responsibility that causes us to endlessly torment ourselves over the affairs of this world.
When ambition for the world becomes ambition to leave the cares for it behind (without neglecting our responsibilities, of course, for Capricorn is about responsible management of time and resources as well), then we know we are well on the way toward our lasting happiness. Nothing of this world is permanent – things, relationships, life itself. How can one ever find lasting happiness in something that does not last? That very question is at the root of all spiritual practise and striving.
The Chinese associate Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, with the sweet taste, yet in esoteric astrology Saturn is the planet where mental suffering is known, where the principle of limitation is brought to bear and where opportunity for growth is realized. How can these two disparate factors – sweetness and suffering – be of the same planet? Symbolically, the sweetness associated with Saturn is the sweet taste of victory, the mountaintop experience of Capricorn. It is spiritual attainment to which we refer here. Worldly ambition and the amassing of material things shows us the path of suffering and only momentary happiness. The choice of worldly pleasures has its own bitter reward, and as we know, ‘you can’t take it with you’.
Through our attachments to pleasures and outcomes, eventually we wake up one day and think to ourselves, “Why do I keep setting myself up for continual heartbreak,” since we know that ultimately separation from what we have desired will eventually have to come? Choices have consequences. That is ever the hard lesson of Saturn. On the other hand, choices also hold opportunities, which are wafted to us on the breeze of the sweet sense of a worthy goal. That is the other aspect of Saturn, the mentor and teacher of self-discipline. Both are valid paths, and both ways ultimately lead us to meet with our teachers. Saturn, via Capricorn, is the great Teacher of the zodiac.
If anyone wants the whole letter, PM me with an email address and I'll forward it to you.
Love,
Marianne
Calz
8th January 2012, 13:03
That's not the kind of war I had in mind.
Here is a sneak preview of my atomizer. Just don't tell Modwiz.
http://s4.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/DBC0E03C.jpg
Oh nicely played m' queen :haha:
I shall slink back to the shadows then :)
... or will I??? :eyebrows:
There are no shadowy corners left in our brightly lit Village, as you well know.
You obviously have not witnessed the effectiveness of modwiz'z new line of "cloaks of invisibility".
Quite the clever feller that one ...
(note to self ... got to stop being lazy and download that "thou shall not pass" gandalf thingie)
Calz
8th January 2012, 13:09
The Road of Higher Awareness...no need for pavement from Here and Now
http://api.ning.com/files/kCncElaMrEjnc1eHIuEurwJ6NlkjCDoGH7yAg40zL9CIh5nqP6OkxdHQsrrJC-BHlmmxj0lFUVBLpmtoguIf6-6ZRNzttD8o/DigitalfeainneAnotherWorld.jpg
Stunning.
Just waking up (have not even managed a bit of coffee yet) but when I saw this I had the overwhelming desire to be there.
Very odd ... not a "oh how cool" ... but more a "longing to be there".
Sup with dat?
Calz
8th January 2012, 13:15
I had an unusual dream last night...... I was back working at a Treasury Agency. As often occurred due to changing polictical climates, a restructuring of departments was in progress. My boss and I were moving to a new area of the building. Construction of offices was ongoing and movers and workers were everywhere. As often occurred, my desk was moved first so that I could arrange the new office.
I was upset for several reasons: Still another restructuring of departments, my new area would be among strangers instead of friends, an upper floor panoramic view I had grown to love was being replaced by the view of a new futuristic monorail system on that side of the building. (This is not completely unusual because my actual former office area had a monorail system, but it was mostly used by tourists. And, I lived in a nearby complex where the monorail system was eye level in the distance from my balcony creating a Jetsons type ambiance.) But, the rail in this dream was extremely high speed, just a shiny blurr running at frequent intervals outside the window. Automatic doors opened for large groups of embarking and departing passengers within the view of my temporary desk.
In the interim, it was necessary to walk a long distance several times a day to communicate with my boss and take care of business. On one such time he handed me a crystal decanter with one of those gold tags on a chain identifying the contents. The engraving read, "Monatomic Gold". He asked me to keep the decanter at my desk and feel free to use as much as I wanted. Arriving back at my desk, I moved some files to the floor and set the decanter down on a corner while pondering this odd occurrence.
Later, my boss hurried by saying he would be away at a meeting for several days. He boarded the monorail and sped away. I sat quietly for a moment, then poured some of the monatomic gold into an empty coffee cup and sipped it.... Disorientation shifted into transcendence and the dream ended.
This is a great dream Cottage Rose
this is your dream and i am not a dream interpreter please take what i say with a grain of salt and just adding my perspective, but i would say this is a dream of integration of your spirit/Spirit; your boss is you, your upset because you were leaving your friends -parts of you that you may not need anymore/or they are integrating and the view is different a different view point. Spirit and your spirit created form, the past, moving up to another office as a reference point for you to integrate spirit and be able to access a plane(s) & dimension(s) that have finer vibrations -hence the monatomics. Looks like you got alot all in one full swoop -recapitulation, present and future. Your thinking about this "odd occurrence" keeps you connected to the physical -your boss/spirit leaving allows you choice / feeling dis-oriented like reorganization/ you chose to integrate more micro/macro the monatomics. Really cool dream.
Love
Nora
we are all related
Interesting Nora,
By no means experienced in dream interpretation but noting something from someone who has for many years, David Wilcock, he suggests that everybody in our dreams are actually aspects of ourselves (paraphrasing). After all the ruckus in the forum following his death threat I am loath to even bring up the name and that makes me sad.
Thanks for sharing your dream Cottage Rose :)
Calz
8th January 2012, 13:30
Still rockin' after all these years.
Wow ... just came across this one looking for something to listen to in the background while attending to my "duties" on the ranch thread. (btw thanks meeradas for the King's X :thumb: )
Recorded in 2010. These guys have been going strong for over 40 years now.
Qzca17OVnZw
ulli
8th January 2012, 13:40
Just took dog I am fostering for a walk at midnight under the full moon. Quiet, clear, and calm a rarity where I live in LA. It has been that way on the whole for the last week--totally out of character. Min Chi has now been gone for three days. She left like she came-- of her own free will. For whatever reasons, this house is not what she had in mind. I have met a lot of queens like her. She never really bonded with Sam. Never slept with him, cleaned him or vice versa.
A week ago I committed to fostering a dog from Thailand. Apparently, the government there cracked down on puppy farms breeding to use the fur for coats. Something Asians have no aversion to unlike Americans. So this rescue organization here in LA has been flying them here by the plane load. They say she is a type of pharaoh hound. She looks a lot like a black and tan basenji. She came here at two months and is now 8 months. She has lived her entire life essentially in a crate. I have to pry her out to take her for a walk. The first walk was a half a block in which she crawled. At midnight she walked in circles around me--so that is progress. She won't sit at my feet but she will sit calmly in my lap. The rescue people carry her from place to place as they do not have time with so many dogs to teach them anything.
She has a new fleecy blanket, two cuddly toys, and some small leather chew bones which she seems to like best. She and Sam have smelled one another. No hissy or barking etc. Silence. Sam is really giving me the evil eye and while he is not a lap cat. He apparently does not want to share his home. He is not on my lap but at my feet staring into the dog cave. He is going to have to get used to the fact I will keep his life interesting. LOL Dog is named Kimba.
I must confess I find that really shocking...I don't know what is worse, breeding dogs and cats to put them in soups or for their fur.
I see no end in sight for this type of cruelty. Legislation has to be one solution, then enforcement of the law...tough one....then education. Or education first....
The other extreme is of course the pet salon scene Astrid mentioned recently. Both extremes seem to be growing...
Asia isn't the only place where cruelty against animals exists...
Min Chi probably left because of Kimba's arrival, I reckon.
ulli
8th January 2012, 14:07
This is a great dream Cottage Rose
this is your dream and i am not a dream interpreter please take what i say with a grain of salt and just adding my perspective, but i would say this is a dream of integration of your spirit/Spirit; your boss is you, your upset because you were leaving your friends -parts of you that you may not need anymore/or they are integrating and the view is different a different view point. Spirit and your spirit created form, the past, moving up to another office as a reference point for you to integrate spirit and be able to access a plane(s) & dimension(s) that have finer vibrations -hence the monatomics. Looks like you got alot all in one full swoop -recapitulation, present and future. Your thinking about this "odd occurrence" keeps you connected to the physical -your boss/spirit leaving allows you choice / feeling dis-oriented like reorganization/ you chose to integrate more micro/macro the monatomics. Really cool dream.
Love
Nora
we are all related
Interesting Nora,
By no means experienced in dream interpretation but noting something from someone who has for many years, David Wilcock, he suggests that everybody in our dreams are actually aspects of ourselves (paraphrasing). After all the ruckus in the forum following his death threat I am loath to even bring up the name and that makes me sad.
Thanks for sharing your dream Cottage Rose :)
Calz,
David will always be a controversial figure. I guess in a way I'm grateful to him as it was his interview that brought my attention to Bill and Kerry. I was a daily regular on the Divine Cosmos forum before then, although I never contributed.
If David had given credit where credit is due he would have more devoted followers. The idea that every object in a dream is the dreamer himself was already common knowledge, and maybe even Fritz Perls was not the first one who came across it, although he built his life's work on it.
Same goes for Dan Winter who blatently plagiarized another man's work, with the origin of the Hebrew alphabet work, and is now running from the law because of it. Like David Wilcock, Dan Winter is another Pisces, and many have been known to do this because they are so steeped in oneness that they have no qualms about stealing ideas. They don't seem to know where one person ends and the other begins. You simply cannot have a 3D world based on that idea.
Which is why I always say that the All is One paradigm is only one half of humanity's wake-up call
The other is All Is Separate. Both are true, both must be seen in larger context.
Planet Earth is about diversity, and concepts like uniformity (which implies force) and unity (which implies a voluntary joining) have to be understood and presented in a way that leaves no trail of confusion the way David has done.
Calz
8th January 2012, 14:28
Say Viral ... see the Tellinger vid I posted earlier here (was well as starting a thread with)?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38174-Giant-Footprint-shown-by-Michael-Tellinger-in...
Your neck of the woods is it not?
Having some interesting debate regarding the possibility of a "footprint" in granite with some (justifiably) suspicious takes on it.
Your posts imply a bit of time to travel. Any wild chance you could make it to this place and get some high quality digital images of this??? Someone has already sent email. If not no biggy ... just interesting to have "avalonian boots on the ground" to take us on a first hand look.
Here's the reply I received this morning from Michael:
Hello Kathie
I wish I had the answers for the 1000’s of questions I received. This is one of the great mysteries in the world. The geology is definitely granite – which makes this footprint a great puzzle.
Its location and the fact that it was discovered in 1912 in a remote area by a hunter, excludes the possibility of a hoax carving.
Something really amazing happened here a long time ago and we have to face it.
in Pure Truth
Michael of the family Tellinger
All rights reserved - without prejudice - without recourse
Calz
8th January 2012, 14:50
Calz,
David will always be a controversial figure. I guess in a way I'm grateful to him as it was his interview that brought my attention to Bill and Kerry. I was a daily regular on the Divine Cosmos forum before then, although I never contributed.
If David had given credit where credit is due he would have more devoted followers. The idea that every object in a dream is the dreamer himself was already common knowledge, and maybe even Fritz Perls was not the first one who came across it, although he built his life's work on it.
Same goes for Dan Winter who blatently plagiarized another man's work, with the origin of the Hebrew alphabet work, and is now running from the law because of it. Like David Wilcock, Dan Winter is another Pisces, and many have been known to do this because they are so steeped in oneness that they have no qualms about stealing ideas. They don't seem to know where one person ends and the other begins. You simply cannot have a 3D world based on that idea.
Which is why I always say that the All is One paradigm is only one half of humanity's wake-up call
The other is All Is Separate. Both are true, both must be seen in larger context.
Planet Earth is about diversity, and concepts like uniformity (which implies force) and unity (which implies a voluntary joining) have to be understood and presented in a way that leaves no trail of confusion the way David has done.
Point taken ulli.
My response is similar to what I have referred to often before. If not for Wilcock then I would never have heard of this information. Sure he missed many responsibilities to give credit were credit is due yet often does not. He sites many sources for what he pulls together in his material.
His strength is taking scientific data ... understanding it ... integrating it ... putting it into a format more accessibly for knuckleheads like me.
As far as dreamwork David has been closely documenting and analyzing his dreams for many many years. Is it not a bit hasty to discount that??? Could he not be given just a *bit* of credit for reenforcing previous theories with concrete experience of his own??? Had not David experienced that for himself do you think he would still have made that sort of reference???
As an astrologer you are better equipped than most to understand and have insight into what all souls have entered with regarding energies they were born into.
I never did David's forum but we share the history that brought us to find Bill and Kerry.
My sadness is due to the level of "venom" directed his way lately. We all make mistakes. We are human ... what else can we expect? I simply don't feel anything Wilcock has done deserves crucifixion. Whatever shortcomings and errors he has made along the path I believe (me personally) are due to his sometimes naive nature. Sure he is bright enough to understand that if you jump into a pool of sharks there are consequences but perhaps it took a real wake up call to make that connection.
Don't let his shortcomings circumvent his gifts and service to the world.
baby ... bathwater ... rinse and repeat
IMHO
ulli
8th January 2012, 15:24
Calz,
David will always be a controversial figure. I guess in a way I'm grateful to him as it was his interview that brought my attention to Bill and Kerry. I was a daily regular on the Divine Cosmos forum before then, although I never contributed.
If David had given credit where credit is due he would have more devoted followers. The idea that every object in a dream is the dreamer himself was already common knowledge, and maybe even Fritz Perls was not the first one who came across it, although he built his life's work on it.
Same goes for Dan Winter who blatently plagiarized another man's work, with the origin of the Hebrew alphabet work, and is now running from the law because of it. Like David Wilcock, Dan Winter is another Pisces, and many have been known to do this because they are so steeped in oneness that they have no qualms about stealing ideas. They don't seem to know where one person ends and the other begins. You simply cannot have a 3D world based on that idea.
Which is why I always say that the All is One paradigm is only one half of humanity's wake-up call
The other is All Is Separate. Both are true, both must be seen in larger context.
Planet Earth is about diversity, and concepts like uniformity (which implies force) and unity (which implies a voluntary joining) have to be understood and presented in a way that leaves no trail of confusion the way David has done.
Point taken ulli.
My response is similar to what I have referred to often before. If not for Wilcock then I would never have heard of this information. Sure he missed many responsibilities to give credit were credit is due yet often does not. He sites many sources for what he pulls together in his material.
His strength is taking scientific data ... understanding it ... integrating it ... putting it into a format more accessibly for knuckleheads like me.
As far as dreamwork David has been closely documenting and analyzing his dreams for many many years. Is it not a bit hasty to discount that??? Could he not be given just a *bit* of credit for reenforcing previous theories with concrete experience of his own??? Had not David experienced that for himself do you think he would still have made that sort of reference???
As an astrologer you are better equipped than most to understand and have insight into what all souls have entered with regarding energies they were born into.
I never did David's forum but we share the history that brought us to find Bill and Kerry.
My sadness is due to the level of "venom" directed his way lately. We all make mistakes. We are human ... what else can we expect? I simply don't feel anything Wilcock has done deserves crucifixion. Whatever shortcomings and errors he has made along the path I believe (me personally) are due to his sometimes naive nature. Sure he is bright enough to understand that if you jump into a pool of sharks there are consequences but perhaps it took a real wake up call to make that connection.
Don't let his shortcomings circumvent his gifts and service to the world.
baby ... bathwater ... rinse and repeat
IMHO
Point taken, as well. Which is why I would never spew venom in David's direction, nor spit at him.
Just saying it does not surprise me that he gets strong emotional reactions from the lovers and haters alike.
And maybe that's a better thing than I would like to think, as that kind of dynamic makes a big enough splash to get an important message heard.
The Bigger Splash...a painting by David Hockney of a Beverly Hiils swimming pool after someone jumped into it...
and the isolation of the life of the super-rich.
http://www.dorothygoldeen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Hockney1.jpg
eaglespirit
8th January 2012, 15:56
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Stunning.
Just waking up (have not even managed a bit of coffee yet) but when I saw this I had the overwhelming desire to be there.
Very odd ... not a "oh how cool" ... but more a "longing to be there".
Sup with dat?
Mornin' Calz....that's why I posted it this morn...it spoke to me when I found it. As exhilarating as a 2d pic can be, imho. I wanted to walk those hills and dales immediately, and well, we actually are in a vibratory way : )
Calz
8th January 2012, 16:16
Mornin' Calz....that's why I posted it this morn...it spoke to me when I found it. As exhilarating as a 2d pic can be, imho. I wanted to walk those hills and dales immediately, and well, we actually are in a vibratory way : )
That was a completely honest response to seeing that image.
I have never experienced anything like that before regardless of how many similar images or videos I have seen.
Very odd sensation. Not sure how to explain it other than what you have done.
9eagle9
8th January 2012, 16:46
My sadness is due to the level of "venom" directed his way lately. We all make mistakes. We are human ... what else can we expect? I simply don't feel anything Wilcock has done deserves crucifixion.
Cal, look at it this way. When one assumes a role, and the role breaks down as they always do, spiritual course correction, the venom is directed at the role assumed.
People may not be aware of this, and if David is aware of it then ....everything is hunky dorey. If he has not separated himself from the role then he will definently be experiencing a psychic attack. If he is the psychic he says he is..no problem. Psychics may be slow on the uptake but...they eventually find out how to frame themselves from psychic attack. But one has to consider the sources of that attack in 360 degree way. Much of our psychic attack originates in 'well meaning' people.
His work that you so admire lays it all out. Hypnosis and self-seduction.
If I looked out on the world and seen my fans(not that I have any but for the sake of arguement) pitying me...I'd be horrorfied. Is that HOW they see me???!!!
If one assumes a messiah role or savior role by choice or has it imposed on him by fans....then they will get crucified. The way things are arranged now...it's unavoidable. In thousands of years humans have never deviated from that particular outcome when one chooses that particular matrix creating situation. The roles that we choose ...determine the out come. So we can stop playing the role, and stop participating in the circumstances surrounding it.... and we no longer risk crucification. His work lays that all out on the table.
He is a human, perhaps if he had not implicated himself or his fans had not implicated him as 'more than human' people would be more forgiving. People are willing to forgive human error...people don't know how to forgive something that comes across or is portrayed as not human. People who blame god can explain that to you better than I.
But still its the role that he assumed that people are spitting at ..you can't really do anything to one's authentic expression.
At this point its David's admirers who keep perpetrating the poor pitiful David expressions here. My friend is a big David Wilcock fan and as we talked about this,she was first wide eyed, and then said,
'Ah well ......... he can manage himself.'
There's a vote of confidence there. She periodically reminds me that I can manage myself and she reminds me of the that because .......we both know its true.
...continuing to be 'sad' over David is rather demeaning to him. In our sympathy we keep bringing up the notion that he is weak, defenseless, victim of venom. Owie, is that vote of confidence ????? So what people are seeing are ...his admirer's re-inforcing the notion that he is weak. Is that what you want?
Its wrong when those who are not fans of his to do this...but somehow more correct when his admirers do it????!!!!
Is that how you see this man that you claim to admire? I'm not seeing your admiration ---your portryal of him is of a disempowered victim long after the more verbal naysayers have put it to rest. As an object of pity, a victim of venom? Is he that lacking in power, and significance that you should pity him? So powerless that we should not question him for fear he may break? That's painting a confidence inspiring portrait of anyone?
Another circumstance of seeing how we feel about ourselves in other people. I just see another circumstance of attempting to smother another's percieved shortcomings in pity in attempt to fix our own misgivings about ourselves. Or perhaps not forgiving ourselves for our percieved shortcomings by sympathizing when we 'think' we see it in others.
This won't be the last time we see this. We caught in an awful run away circle of Question everything but don't question that which I love. If someone is that powerful and worthy of admiration they can stand a few questions, probing. Its how people determine the authenticity of anything by QUESTING--questioning--it.
ulli
8th January 2012, 17:01
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Stunning.
Just waking up (have not even managed a bit of coffee yet) but when I saw this I had the overwhelming desire to be there.
Very odd ... not a "oh how cool" ... but more a "longing to be there".
Sup with dat?
Mornin' Calz....that's why I posted it this morn...it spoke to me when I found it. As exhilarating as a 2d pic can be, imho. I wanted to walk those hills and dales immediately, and well, we actually are in a vibratory way : )
The otherworldly quality of this is unmistakable.
Impact picture, and a real piece of art.
I felt like this before, when I heard for the first time of people adding a moonlight garden to their existing garden.
A moonlight garden has only white flowering plants in it.
They glow during a full moon....to me this is taking the art of gardening to new heights.
9eagle9
8th January 2012, 17:03
I miss having a pool.
My ex husband and I had a splendiforous pool, and it was basically a place that one lolled in while having a drink on a hot day with Def Leppard blasting on the outdoor speakers. The checking of the pool was the first thing I did in the morning, with a cup of coffee in hand, out in the quite sunrise.
He seldom opens the pool anymore . The first year we were separated I had to go open it for him and said....this is the last time. He has a hard time maintaining the pool, it's often green and unusable because he doesn't have the appropriate vigilance. Nor will he leave the house long for fear of me using the pool or hot tub while he's gone...lol.
It's very easy to do. You wait till he leaves, then you run for the pool. If you hear his truck coming up the hill, you dart out of the pool, hide under the deck, and when he goes in the house, you dart into the woods, and then run through the woods to the front of my house, and then enter through the front. You have complete stealth coverage the entire time.
In case anyone decided to come visit and wanted to use my ex-pool.
you are most welcome to.
Calz,
David will always be a controversial figure. I guess in a way I'm grateful to him as it was his interview that brought my attention to Bill and Kerry. I was a daily regular on the Divine Cosmos forum before then, although I never contributed.
If David had given credit where credit is due he would have more devoted followers. The idea that every object in a dream is the dreamer himself was already common knowledge, and maybe even Fritz Perls was not the first one who came across it, although he built his life's work on it.
Same goes for Dan Winter who blatently plagiarized another man's work, with the origin of the Hebrew alphabet work, and is now running from the law because of it. Like David Wilcock, Dan Winter is another Pisces, and many have been known to do this because they are so steeped in oneness that they have no qualms about stealing ideas. They don't seem to know where one person ends and the other begins. You simply cannot have a 3D world based on that idea.
Which is why I always say that the All is One paradigm is only one half of humanity's wake-up call
The other is All Is Separate. Both are true, both must be seen in larger context.
Planet Earth is about diversity, and concepts like uniformity (which implies force) and unity (which implies a voluntary joining) have to be understood and presented in a way that leaves no trail of confusion the way David has done.
Point taken ulli.
My response is similar to what I have referred to often before. If not for Wilcock then I would never have heard of this information. Sure he missed many responsibilities to give credit were credit is due yet often does not. He sites many sources for what he pulls together in his material.
His strength is taking scientific data ... understanding it ... integrating it ... putting it into a format more accessibly for knuckleheads like me.
As far as dreamwork David has been closely documenting and analyzing his dreams for many many years. Is it not a bit hasty to discount that??? Could he not be given just a *bit* of credit for reenforcing previous theories with concrete experience of his own??? Had not David experienced that for himself do you think he would still have made that sort of reference???
As an astrologer you are better equipped than most to understand and have insight into what all souls have entered with regarding energies they were born into.
I never did David's forum but we share the history that brought us to find Bill and Kerry.
My sadness is due to the level of "venom" directed his way lately. We all make mistakes. We are human ... what else can we expect? I simply don't feel anything Wilcock has done deserves crucifixion. Whatever shortcomings and errors he has made along the path I believe (me personally) are due to his sometimes naive nature. Sure he is bright enough to understand that if you jump into a pool of sharks there are consequences but perhaps it took a real wake up call to make that connection.
Don't let his shortcomings circumvent his gifts and service to the world.
baby ... bathwater ... rinse and repeat
IMHO
Point taken, as well. Which is why I would never spew venom in David's direction, nor spit at him.
Just saying it does not surprise me that he gets strong emotional reactions from the lovers and haters alike.
And maybe that's a better thing than I would like to think, as that kind of dynamic makes a big enough splash to get an important message heard.
The Bigger Splash...a painting by David Hockney of a Beverly Hiils swimming pool after someone jumped into it...
and the isolation of the life of the super-rich.
http://www.dorothygoldeen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Hockney1.jpg
ulli
8th January 2012, 17:13
This picture can't match the above, although it is pretty.
I'm just showing it as a contrast...a different type of fantasy image...more kitsch, perhaps?
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs19/i/2009/117/5/8/The_Midnight_Garden_by_ArwensGrace.jpg
ulli
8th January 2012, 17:23
@9eagle9
there was once a youtube video making the rounds...this family had a pool, with huge rocks next to it, to jump from.
Every time they went out shopping when they returned they found the entire floor around the pool wet.
They asked the neighbor if his kids might have sneaked in there, but no. So they decided to install a camera to catch whoever was using their pool when they were out.
To their surprise they discovered it was their own dog...I think it was a Rottweiler, or Great Dane...big dog, anyway...
the moment they left the house their dog climbed up on those stones, jumped into the pool making a huge splash, swam to the other side, climbed out, ran back to the rocks, jumped again, swam across, etc. ...non-stop until they returned. He then went to his corner and pretended to be asleep.
All captured on video. I wish I could find it again.
Calz
8th January 2012, 17:28
Alright ... let's take this one step at a time this time and I strongly encourage other villagers to offer their voices here.
12517
9:
His work that you so admire lays it all out.
As I clearly tried to enunciate my admiration is for his ability to make more accessible that which is beyond most of us. Combination of other works perhaps lacking in recognition and explicitly siting such.
Hypnosis and self-seduction
Entered into the court's record is that I have tried on several times to be "hypnotised" without success.
Call me a nugget if you will ... are you suggesting I have been hypnotised into self-seduction?
To accomodate the jury can you please expand on the meaning of that? We want everyone to be crystal clear.
Don't suppose you have actually read his latest book have you??? Your (seeming?) disdain for him would suggest otherwise. So how are you in a position to be self appointed "judge, jury and executioner" (yes margaret ... yet again )???
Not a dig.
I am not a hater (5 planets in Libra c'mon). Humor me (you remember that one?)
I have great respect for you and I always look to learn something from *ANYONE* on the forum who has an opinion different than myself.
Wonderful learning tool.
If in my foolishness I am made an example of for learning for the benefit of the village (forum ... guests) then so be it.
Wish it would have come about in another thread. You are responding to my response to ulli ... and so quite on topic.
Cal
PS - you didn't see fit to repond to my last post in reaction to your dump on Ishtar. That was about ... what ... Anunnaki??? Coming into what matters here and now??? I didn't see you piling on Sid when he went into great length about his opinion the Enki faction was returning to "finish things" with Enlil.
Can you elaborate on that as well???
Let's finish old business of the court before continuing on to new shall we???
Don't pull a "someone else" and ignore a honest and respectful challange to your post then vanish for a couple weeks only to return to pontificate yet again somewhere else (perhaps with someone not willing to stand up)
ViralSpiral
8th January 2012, 18:15
Hi Cal, I saw the video of Big Foot. Thank you :)
Its too remote. Hunting area. Wont be going anytime soon. I love his work though and admire his courage.
I plead the 5th i.r.o jury duty. What I will say is that I am saddened and disappointed at the levels of disrespect thrown around the forum. For the most part I will remain a voyeur...
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write4change
8th January 2012, 18:24
I have been reading but too tired and thoughtful to post. Jan. 2 I started moving into my new office. I had paid for everything about the 1st of December, and they promised to clean it. So when I arrived it looked exactly like I had last seen it. It would be a long story to how this all evolved and right now not worth the back ground. The here and now is that it is my focus. And a preparation for work---the mental kind now requiring a lot of physical labor.
I have to climb one very old fashioned flight of stairs. With my knees it is a big deal. So it changed everything, in that what was going in there had to fit in my car and I had to be able to lift it myself. At first, it was to be temporary--for a couple of months. But I have now have so much work in it--that it is permanent until my last final big move. I think of the change of plans to be the universe giving me time to plan differently and time to realize to let things evolve.
Except for not being on the first floor it is a by far better office. Things I did not think about because so many things seem superficially normal and are not. This office has a big window looking out into a big tree. Rare for LA. The other office was totally interior and all highly lit with artificial light. Something I did not think about would be highly unhappy with long term.
All of the fixtures in this office are already earthquake proof and I really did not understand this new retro fitting until I started working with it. What is going on in LA is the young moving into the city differently. Lots of these abandoned buildings are now being taken up and used totally differently. This used to be an old brewry. Embedded in the entrance way to my office is the seal in the floor dated 1912. This huge property has office lofts and big warehouse areas for various kinds of big art building. One of the interesting things in the parking lot is a young woman working with a moving silver colored structure that is not a sphere but has some of its attributes while she does a form of dancing jungle gym performance she is working on for cirque de soleil.
I am the oldest person around and my own form of curiousity. I will periodically write here interesting things I see. A lot of this is visual arts and strange designs for movie sets. Right now I am on a schedule trying to finish by Wednesday. I am doing 6 yo 8 hours of what for me is hard labor. Yesterday as I worked 4 young people in 10 hours buildt and entire recording studio with high graphic designs and totally created walls, windows, painted highly geometrically and creatively and how they did that I have no idea. I never saw any taping etc. that I learned in my day. And it is perfect looking.
What is nice is that yesterday, a young composer came by and was as enchanted as by what I was doing and we are going to barter needs. More about that later. I started Monday and worked so hard for two days that Wednesday I had to just sleep and let my back and knees recover. What everyone is impressed with in my parameters of doing it by car and what I can carry. Yesterday, the studio people carried everything up the stairs so I got a lot more done and sort of caught up.
Today, I am moving a fireplace. LOL Signing off for a while.
9eagle9
8th January 2012, 18:45
Alright ... let's take this one step at a time this time and I strongly encourage other villagers to offer their voices here.
12517
9:
His work that you so admire lays it all out.
As I clearly tried to enunciate my admiration is for his ability to make more accessible that which is beyond most of us. Combination of other works perhaps lacking in recognition and explicitly siting such.
Well he could more accessible by expressing that what he claims to hold... himself. One's work is expressed through them in their physical life. The fruits of one's labors are expressed through them. I can blather and gargle that I'm a carpenter all day but I would look rather awkward if the house i built collapsed after one storm.
One should be able to separate David Wilcock from his work. Even he does a half arsed job of it. But we don't see anyone saying , I feel sorry for David's work.
I see people feeling sorry for David Wilcock....
We can't separate the two? Know the difference between his work and his self?
Hypnosis and self-seduction
Entered into the court's record is that I have tried on several times to be "hypnotised" without success.
Call me a nugget if you will ... are you suggesting I have been hypnotised into self-seduction?
David has been self seduced.You got drug along by emotional assocation or attachment. He believed his own story even as his work indicated we must be vigilant of not falling into stories and hypnotic suggestions. Our WORK is expressed through us . There is not person who cannot be hypnotised. We all have been. Therapeutic hypnosis is FAR and Away different from the sort of hypnosis we are speaking about. .
To accomodate the jury can you please expand on the meaning of that? We want everyone to be crystal clear.
first I'm going to establish this isn't a trial and I'm not the prosecutiing attorney. If you want to play the role of defendant that is your choice. Was that clear enough? Because I can drag out some of his work and we'll have a common frame of reference to work from.?
Don't suppose you have actually read his latest book have you??? Your (seeming?) disdain for him would suggest otherwise. So how are you in a position to be self appointed "judge, jury and executioner" (yes margaret ... yet again )???
Source Feild Investigations emphasizes how much of our conditon has been imposed in a hypnotic way. Did I need source field investigations to tell me that. No I was a hypnotist way before that book ever came out. and this information has been out there long before David ever came along. Short of posting the Book here we can reference the video to it and I will clearly point out , from a common frame of reference, where I'm coming from. Hows that. Or you can start posting the book and I will very easily re-frame what I'm saying from his text.'Seeming' disdain. This is you are challenged to uphold.
I have nothing against his work, you can go thorugh all my posts , and do your own work, and you will not see a word from me against his work. I don't agree with all of it, and because I have not created him as a guru for myself, I can focus on the work and where it proves or fails without all this emotional hardship. My comment about his work is...he needs to follow his own advice. Is that disdain?
David is not my authority on the subject. I am. If this passes for disdain, then I am willingly to risk that.
What is more important. David or the Work?I've seen gurus kick themselves in the ass too many times for me to get overly excited about this latest self inflicted ass kicking. I know we all looking for a higher authority but he's not it. We are. People who undertake the role of a Psychic Medium should do their own homework and see what happened to public psychics in the past when they traverse down this path.
As I have stated over and over he should follow his own advice. Because he doesn't own that work, he refers to many sources, he didn't 'discover' those sources, much of what he brings out is common knowledge in certain circles. However he failed to adhere to his own principals which risks tarnishing any good it may do. History repeats itself again. That is not making things more accessible its making it more difficult.
Not a dig.
I am not a hater (5 planets in Libra c'mon). Humor me (you remember that one?)
No of course not but in attempting to love everything to avoid hate you may end up hurting yourself. No one else....but you. This why things like this happen and some people are hurt from it and other's are not. But the one's who are not damaged by it by keeping appropriate boundaries for themselve aren't haters either. This may be one of your Libra challenges.
I have great respect for you and I always look to learn something from *ANYONE* on the forum who has an opinion different than myself.
You only have that great respect for me because I express the same respect for myself...but thank you for seeing what I know in myself. If it was not present or expressed in me...you'd not have anything to see.
Wonderful learning tool.
If in my foolishness I am made an example of for learning for the benefit of the village (forum ... guests) then so be it.
Wish it would have come about in another thread. You are responding to my response to ulli ... and so quite on topic.
Is the here and now simply reduced to a place where we talk about 'lite' subjects. In actuality the people inhabiting this thread are ones who can actually something in a way that doesn't cause an avalanche.
PS - you didn't see fit to repond to my last post in reaction to your dump on Ishtar. That was about ... what ... Anunnaki??? Coming into what matters here and now??? I didn't see you piling on Sid when he went into great length about his opinion the Enki faction was returning to "finish things" with Enlil.
I didn't see your last post in my 'dump' on Ishstar. I know questioning the validitiy of people's statements even as we are cajoled to 'question everything' is a crazy making matrix mechanism. If it was the thread I am thinking of, I was asked to leave the thread. If she trotted over to thread where those who were asked to leave the thread were discussing certain hypnotic manuveurs...that's her problem. If she is the person she says she is....she can manage herself. If David is the person he claims to be he can manage himself. If you like I'll respond to it. I very highly doubt you will like my response. That will be your responsibility to manage that one as well.
I will also remind you that I didn't bring up David Wilcocks , Lord Sid or Ishtar in this thread before we proceed.
I didn't see Lord Sids Posts about his opinions about the Enki faction .I like LS very much however I didn't trail after him watching every word he said. He's not my authority on 'everything'.
he knows this, he and I have discussed very often.
but since you've brought it up and require a response from me. Lord Sid isn't claiming to be the reincarnation of someone to prop up his opinion. Ishtar and David Wilcocks don't trust their information enough to just allow it to express, and prove itself that way; they need a prop in order to prop it up, to validate it, instead of just allowing it to prove itself. When someone is that doubtful to what they are stating why do I HAVE to believe it route and verse? And I have made many statements that obviate themselves about role playing. Do I front all my remarks and say this is the truth because I was someone or another in a previous lifetime. I WAS but it's irrelvant to anyone but me. It's irrelevant in the here and now. What I say will prove itself without me having to be a designer label on it. The words themselves will prove themselves or not without me putting a personal meaning of myself on them.
If Ishtar is the all powerful shaman and reincarnation of Ishtar that her adherents are popping her about with....she can cope with a few questions don't you think? Shamans are used to being questioned. Or was her that claimed to be the reicarnation of Ishtar? There's so many people POSING as this , that or the other, I get them confused.
I think she can stand up to a few questions IF she is who she claims to be.So can David. Or rather if they are who they claim to be, it will prove itself in expression.
I know I can manage a few questions without breaking down. Should I expect less of other people than I do myself? Demeaning them perhaps? I expect less of you because you are less than me, is the message there.
But we're not supposed to question God are we?Ahh.........there we go. There's are issue right there. Core value. We're not suppposed to question our authority figures...why?
The mechanism is old boring and tired. It's been used for thousands of years. Didn't the Annunaki use that same "We're God!" mechanism. Gee any wonder that someone attempting to pose as God would use another set of Gods to validate their point. [/COLOR[COLOR="red"]]It's more role playing.
Can you elaborate on that as well???
If that was not elaborate enough I can very well expand on it but considering how emotional this is for people one has to consider that their feelings may get hurt. I can do that much when people keep durp-te- do-ing up a hurtful track is warn them that ....this may hurt. .
Let's finish old business of the court before continuing on to new shall we???
Careful what you wish for.
Calz
8th January 2012, 18:55
Careful what you wish for.
Learned that lesson a time or two before.
Will need to chew on this later as I am back to my overnight 13 shift tonight ... nappy time.
Thanks for your response.
Any other members here willing to jump into the pool???
Cal
write4change
8th January 2012, 19:08
The Questioning of God:
One of the reasons I converted to Judaism from Catholicism is their saying where ten or more are gathered, ten being the requirement for minyon for sanctified ritual, there are 11 opinions.
It is a Midrash, sort of sacred folk tale, saying that the Jews became the chosen people because they were the only ones willing to argue with God. 100 righteous people?, how about 10, how about one? Who am I to be your messenger? Moses, Jonah, etc.
It took me a while in my life to give up organized religion because I felt I need a defined path. It was only when I became integrated to myself that I understood the way for me is the way inside myself. Took about 40 years of work and experimentation to get there. I still hold myself out to be a Jew and a Buddhist because they are not mutually exclusive and both in their sacred traditions of scholar lead inwards. Being a recluse for ten years was not hard. Like in many ways dying is easier than living. It is living and working and understanding together that is hard. Being the way in the world you want the world to be when it is not. Now that is a challenge!
Guest
8th January 2012, 20:31
I do not like chlorinated environments much prefer swimming in the ocean or kayaking on a full moon misty night.
But I will comment, I am not that familiar with DW only in passing until i came to PA and am just now beginning to read The Source Field Investigation. I read the first 8 or so pages of the DW receives death threat thread and was enough and really a bit too much for me..... felt a lot of pressure especially in my brain. When i finally had some time I listened to the radio interview and pretty much had the same physiological reaction to the interview and sensed a lot of static for lack of a better word. Through the whole created diatribe, that I would allow myself to observe, key word here observe is that everyone created a goat out of DW & the situation and he in turn created a goat, ie the situation and now his fans. Why? it's obvious neither one wants to be responsible and used emotional discourse to create a situation that detracted and distracted them from what is truly going on with themselves, the world and the way they are truly feeling. This is my observation.
Here and now it is a cold blustery sunny day i am nursing a cold and drinking a very hot strong cup of peppermint tea.
Love
Nora
we are all related
eaglespirit
8th January 2012, 21:34
Let It ALL Go !
Love! Love! Love!
Marianne
8th January 2012, 21:54
A Moon Garden ... it's dear to my heart. I have one planned, it's blooming in my mind ... someday it will slide out of my head and into the landscape, someplace where I call home.
The full moon was yesterday ... it's easy to imagine a beautiful garden of white blooming flowers and silvery leaves.
Guest
8th January 2012, 23:07
Cal posted this video in the Up at Trout Lake James Gilliand Thread this morning -thought I would bring it over to here -hope it's okay Cal -it really is awesomely amazing.
Vadj0Nkby58
Love
Nora
9eagle9
9th January 2012, 00:12
I remember the Youtube of the couple who had an astronomically high water bill. So they hid cameras to see which of thieir kids was leaving the water running. It was the cut repeatedly flushing the toilet.
@9eagle9
there was once a youtube video making the rounds...this family had a pool, with huge rocks next to it, to jump from.
Every time they went out shopping when they returned they found the entire floor around the pool wet.
They asked the neighbor if his kids might have sneaked in there, but no. So they decided to install a camera to catch whoever was using their pool when they were out.
To their surprise they discovered it was their own dog...I think it was a Rottweiler, or Great Dane...big dog, anyway...
the moment they left the house their dog climbed up on those stones, jumped into the pool making a huge splash, swam to the other side, climbed out, ran back to the rocks, jumped again, swam across, etc. ...non-stop until they returned. He then went to his corner and pretended to be asleep.
All captured on video. I wish I could find it again.
Calz
9th January 2012, 00:26
On my way to work, noticing the full moon low on the horizon, I decided that after 250+ pages worth of village life it was time to move on.
12523
It appears I continue to unwittingly and unintentionally be a lightning rod bringing storm clouds to the shire.
12524
Time to do the ol' fall on your sword thing ... Spock's needs of the many outweigh .... :blah::blah::blah:
Love to all. Keep the village warm and comfy. I'll still be around. Just not here ... just not now.
modwiz
9th January 2012, 00:53
This picture can't match the above, although it is pretty.
I'm just showing it as a contrast...a different type of fantasy image...more kitsch, perhaps?
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs19/i/2009/117/5/8/The_Midnight_Garden_by_ArwensGrace.jpg
The landscape in the large picture Eaglespirit posted is very familiar to me here in the Catskills. I have camped at places that have a view almost identical to the one pictured here, but without large celestial bodies in the sky. There are a few vantage pints up here in the mountains that offer very similar vistas. If it weren't for the Winters I would never want to leave them. If free energy were to become a reality, I would reconsider staying. Enriching avaricious scumbags during the cold months creates unsettled feeling in me. My oil bill has almost quadrupled since moving her in 2001. My income has not.
Call me a nitpicker, ("You're a nitpicker") but the picture of the wondrous landscape, although breathtaking, was somewhat despoiled by the street lamps for me. They were a big WTF are you doing there? Ulli's picture brings a sort of Elvish magic to things.
If I could insert my self into the grand landscape my first order of business would be to disappear the lampposts and then lay on my back and allow exhilaration to overtake me.
modwiz
9th January 2012, 00:58
The Questioning of God:
One of the reasons I converted to Judaism from Catholicism is their saying where ten or more are gathered, ten being the requirement for minyon for sanctified ritual, there are 11 opinions.
It is a Midrash, sort of sacred folk tale, saying that the Jews became the chosen people because they were the only ones willing to argue with God. 100 righteous people?, how about 10, how about one? Who am I to be your messenger? Moses, Jonah, etc.
It took me a while in my life to give up organized religion because I felt I need a defined path. It was only when I became integrated to myself that I understood the way for me is the way inside myself. Took about 40 years of work and experimentation to get there. I still hold myself out to be a Jew and a Buddhist because they are not mutually exclusive and both in their sacred traditions of scholar lead inwards. Being a recluse for ten years was not hard. Like in many ways dying is easier than living. It is living and working and understanding together that is hard. Being the way in the world you want the world to be when it is not. Now that is a challenge!
The Dalai Lama calls you guys Judhists.
9eagle9
9th January 2012, 01:04
I didn't mind the street lamps they reminded me of the ones at the barn...except without the 5 million metric tons of mud surrounding them.
This one is OLD but a goodie, worth reviving now and again.
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The Duir Waigh website has better version of it no doubt.
ulli
9th January 2012, 01:09
Cal posted this video in the Up at Trout Lake James Gilliand Thread this morning -thought I would bring it over to here -hope it's okay Cal -it really is awesomely amazing.
Vadj0Nkby58
Love
Nora
This is one way of dealing with Calz's absence...
we can just bring in his posts from the other threads, that way we can pretend he never left.
I'd hate to lose him, but at the same time I respect his wishes...I'm sure he knows what he's doing.
Bye bye, Calzie. You'll be missed, especially your early morning posts.
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 01:10
On my way to work, noticing the full moon low on the horizon, I decided that after 250+ pages worth of village life it was time to move on.
12523
It appears I continue to unwittingly and unintentionally be a lightning rod bringing storm clouds to the shire.
12524
Time to do the ol' fall on your sword thing ... Spock's needs of the many outweigh .... :blah::blah::blah:
Love to all. Keep the village warm and comfy. I'll still be around. Just not here ... just not now.
http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/cry-smiley.gif?1292867577
Be still sad heart and cease repining;
Behind the clouds the sun is shining,
Thy fate is the common fate of all,
Into each life a little rain must fall,
Some days must be dark and dreary.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/LadyFire/Smileys/Love%20Smileys/0008.gif
meeradas
9th January 2012, 01:14
I'll still be around. Just not here ... just not now.
Calz, i don't get it.
I would hang around here further, well i will (...).
Not commenting on anything here & now
(i recommend this to be kept in mind if compelled to answer this statement),
but sth that i've seen and learned @ avalon is that
others' need to be right seems way stronger than my own (which is actually giving me hope for myself... ;)),
and to stay away from that mental-emotional vortex before the manure hits the ventilation device.
Well, after reviewing what i just wrote - maybe i got it now, my friend.
Speaking for myself (and many others, i guess) - you're always welcome here, and now.
modwiz
9th January 2012, 01:19
Losing a three legger is not the best for gender balance here. I do hope he returns when his planets form better aspects.
write4change
9th January 2012, 01:24
Modwiz,
Did you know the Dali Lama invited all kinds of different Jews to a conference at his place with the theme of why they Jews propered for two thousand years in a diaspora. I don't know if he got the answers he wanted but there was a firestorm in the Jewish community when all these people got back and started writing about their experiences. Because they went secretly and then went public, the hugh and cry was outrageous. Didn't the Dali Lama get to choose his own party people?
Some of the orthodox wanted people excommunicated which is very non Jewish. The tradition is that once you become a Jew you can never recant. But there have been brutal wars over --- are you a Jew if not converted by an orthodox rabbi. I did three different kinds of Judaism convert classes -- orthodox, conservative, and reform. Two in synagogues and one at UCLA which was the most spiritual and a big class--about 35. All pursuing conversion but not because of marriage but mostly ethics.
This rabbi was known as the conversion rabbi. One of the things he did was have people write autobiographies and what came up over and over was that these people had repeated dreams from a very young age about being Jewish. He called it making Teshuvah or the return. He believed many of us were holocost type victims who lost their lives young and were born to another religion to make the return to Judaism.
I had a dream from almost the beginning of understanding dreams about being about 7 and hiding under stairway with my 9 year old sister and watching and hearing marching boots going by and being absolutely terrified and then the boots would finally arrive at our hiding place and I would wake up in a cold sweat. Coming to LA I started dreaming about Haifa and being born with a club foot and my shrink being my father then in the 13th century. It was really freaking me. I would loose long periods of time and then sort of wake up. This was my mid 30s and I just started the Seth material.
Took me ten years to actually take the 5 vows. The last one is I take the Jewish people to be my people..... I had a real problem with that for a long while. I would look and say the best people I know are Jews and the worst people I know are Jews. One day when they used to celebrate Israel's birthday and a quarter million Jews would turn out, I realized they were all kinds shapes and colors and that, in fact, Jews were just a microcosm of the real world. I would never find a perfect people to join up with. At 36, the double chai and the beginning of adult maturity I ritually converted. I was quite happy for 20 years. But my husband's and daughter's death could not find solace in organized and timed ritual.
eaglespirit
9th January 2012, 01:33
The landscape in the large picture Eaglespirit posted is very familiar to me here in the Catskills. I have camped at places that have a view almost identical to the one pictured here, but without large celestial bodies in the sky. There are a few vantage pints up here in the mountains that offer very similar vistas. If it weren't for the Winters I would never want to leave them. If free energy were to become a reality, I would reconsider staying. Enriching avaricious scumbags during the cold months creates unsettled feeling in me. My oil bill has almost quadrupled since moving her in 2001. My income has not.
Call me a nitpicker, ("You're a nitpicker") but the picture of the wondrous landscape, although breathtaking, was somewhat despoiled by the street lamps for me. They were a big WTF are you doing there? Ulli's picture brings a sort of Elvish magic to things.
If I could insert my self intp the grand landscape my first order of business would be to disappear the lampposts and then lay on my back and allow exhilaration to overtake me.
I felt the same, Modwiz...but the lights simply brought out the 'unpaved road' line in my quote above the pic : )
I WILL be in a field like that...maybe I'll see You there some time!
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Losing a three legger is not the best for gender balance here. I do hope he returns when his planets form better aspects.
We Love You, Calz!!!
ulli
9th January 2012, 01:48
Calz
Tomorrow you'll be back to normal.
Even Libras can become hot-headed
especially when they imagine life to be a court room.
I would have been willing to go on the witness stand
except I didn't see any accusers nor defendants, nor judge nor jury.
The place was empty.
By the way...you had Mercury square Mars today.
Carmody
9th January 2012, 02:10
Sirius aligns with the full moon this jan 9. In Cancer.
meeradas
9th January 2012, 02:50
Sirius aligns with the full moon this jan 9. In Cancer.
Don't know what that means,
but it sure sounds great. To me.
[I'll never catch up with that astrology stuff... tried; won't happen]
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I WILL be in a field like that...maybe I'll see You there some time!
Why dontcha go there now?
astrid
9th January 2012, 03:00
Calz, i can feel your pain, i really can.
And while i respect your wishes i hope you will be back sooner than later.
You are much loved and valued here, and i know i speak for all here.
Libran to Libran, i can see you being "asked" to process attachments.
9eagle9 is just the vehicle here, to mirror to you these particular lessons...
This was a real tough one for me, took me a very long time.
Especially when those that were near and dear to me.
and were being mistreated in some way.
It took me ages to understand that their journey was
their journey and even though i hated what i witnessed,
and wanted to make it stop, it was not my job to do so.
They were also being mirrored their own lessons.
Libran the scales, Justice. I could never let go the things i saw
as unjust, i felt so deeply for the hurts of another that i had to stand up
and say and do something. Bottomless empathy for all.
I still have that empathy, but i have let go of the battle.
Unless I'm asked to assist i have to respect how things
play out in others lives. It's still a work in progress at times
i still put in my 55 cents where its not asked for, or wanted.
And i piss people off.
It's not the same thing, but it came to a head for me,
when my best friend of 25 years, was being cheated on.
I kept finding out details of this, even though i wasn't
looking for it. And what's worse her partner was also
my boss at the time. I was so attached to this situation that
it drove me near insane. I saw her as my "job" to empower
and get free of the situation, whether she wanted that or not.
In the end i walked out of my job, the friendship, and a whole network
of close friends. I haven't consistently worked since then, it was
totally traumatic. She is still with him, he is
still cheating on her and she is still in denial.
We are still close, but i don't see her very often.
Last time i saw her i just focused on her and
her children rather than her relationship.
The twist to this story was that she met him
through me. He was determined to be with her
i was determined to keep them apart, as i knew
what he was like. But it was all meant to be.
Btw he is a Pisces.
I still get triggered by this, much less so, but
there are still remnants. That fight for injustice
thing we have can really be a tough one to find
the balance with. And conflict is not something
us Librans are comfortable with, so much so that
we are willing to walk away at the risk of losing
loved ones. As i said, i feel your pain...
ulli
9th January 2012, 03:07
Sirius aligns with the full moon this jan 9. In Cancer.
And it's my birthday. So I must have a sun/Sirius opposition?
I have never studied fixed stars...what little reading I've done never made me want to learn more. But now I'm curious about Sirius.
The Dog Star. The one the Dogon people celebrate every 50 years.
Cottage Rose
9th January 2012, 03:23
Sirius aligns with the full moon this jan 9. In Cancer.
And it's my birthday. So I must have a sun/Sirius opposition?
I have never studied fixed stars...what little reading I've done never made me want to learn more. But now I'm curious about Sirius.
The Dog Star. The one the Dogon people celebrate every 50 years.
May I be the first to wish you a happy birthday, Dear Ulli.
ulli
9th January 2012, 03:29
Calz, i can feel your pain, i really can.
And while i respect your wishes i hope you will be back sooner than later.
You are much loved and valued here, and i know i speak for all here.
Libran to Libran, i can see you being "asked" to process attachments.
9eagle9 is just the vehicle here, to mirror to you these particular lessons...
This was a real tough one for me, took me a very long time.
Especially when those that were near and dear to me.
and were being mistreated in some way.
It took me ages to understand that their journey was
their journey and even though i hated what i witnessed,
and wanted to make it stop, it was not my job to do so.
They were also being mirrored their own lessons.
Libran the scales, Justice. I could never let go the things i saw
as unjust, i felt so deeply for the hurts of another that i had to stand up
and say and do something. Bottomless empathy for all.
I still have that empathy, but i have let go of the battle.
Unless I'm asked to assist i have to respect how things
play out in others lives. It's still a work in progress at times
i still put in my 55 cents where its not asked for, or wanted.
And i piss people off.
It's not the same thing, but it came to a head for me,
when my best friend of 25 years, was being cheated on.
I kept finding out details of this, even though i wasn't
looking for it. And what's worse her partner was also
my boss at the time. I was so attached to this situation that
it drove me near insane. I saw her as my "job" to empower
and get free of the situation, whether she wanted that or not.
In the end i walked out of my job, the friendship, and a whole network
of close friends. I haven't consistently worked since then, it was
totally traumatic. She is still with him, he is
still cheating on her and she is still in denial.
We are still close, but i don't see her very often.
Last time i saw her i just focused on her and
her children rather than her relationship.
The twist to this story was that she met him
through me. He was determined to be with her
i was determined to keep them apart, as i knew
what he was like. But it was all meant to be.
Btw he is a Pisces.
I still get triggered by this, much less so, but
there are still remnants. That fight for injustice
thing we have can really be a tough one to find
the balance with. And conflict is not something
us Librans are comfortable with, so much so that
we are willing to walk away at the risk of losing
loved ones. As i said, i feel your pain...
Too much pain in this world, and so much of it unnecessary.
What I said before about the Libra-Aries axis, and the problem with time....
while Aries wants instant gratification, for self self self
Libra wants total everlasting harmony for the other other other.
Librans can't exist if there is no "other" to fret over.
Totally people oriented.
And like Taurus (another Venus ruled sign, and Cancer, a Moon ruled sign, and Pisces a Neptune ruled sign) the unselfishness of these four gentle and caring signs makes it harder to let go of the planetary compulsion....after all, they mean so well, they want peace at all cost, they want others to be happy.
Yet rise above planetary compulsion is a must, in order to be truly spiritual.
Opposite Libra is Aries, the masculine warrior, and opposite Taurus is Scorpio, another masculine warrior, and opposite Pisces is Virgo, a non sentimental analyst, and opposite Cancer is cold and calculating patriarchal Capricorn...all masculine signs and politically incorrect in this new age of the divine feminine.
But Aries can teach Libra to enjoy a play fight, and allow for the process, and watch for the spark of truth emerging after the clash of opinions, Scorpio can teach Taurus how to transcend the physical via perseverance, Virgo can teach Pisces to find stability through order and discernment, and Capricorn can teach Cancer that long-term assistance from a distance can transmit more love than just an immediate cozy hug.
Cottage Rose
9th January 2012, 03:36
Too much pain in this world, and so much of it unnecessary.
What I said before about the Libra-Aries axis, and the problem with time....
while Aries wants instant gratification, for self self self
Libra wants total everlasting harmony for the other other other.
Librans can't exist if there is no "other" to fret over.
Totally people oriented.
And like Taurus (another Venus ruled sign, and Cancer, a Moon ruled sign, and Pisces a Neptune ruled sign) the unselfishness of these four gentle and caring signs makes it harder to let go of the planetary compulsion....after all, they mean so well, they want peace at all cost, they want others to be happy.
Yet rise above planetary compulsion is a must, in order to be truly spiritual.
Opposite Libra is Aries, the masculine warrior, and opposite Taurus is Scorpio, another masculine warrior, and opposite Pisces is Virgo, a non sentimental analyst, and opposite Cancer is cold and calculating patriarchal Capricorn...all masculine signs and politically incorrect in this new age of the divine feminine.
But Aries can teach Libra to enjoy a play fight, and allow for the process, and watch for the spark of truth emerging after the clash of opinions, Scorpio can teach Taurus how to transcend the physical via perseverance, Virgo can teach Pisces to find stability through order and discernment, and Capricorn can teach Cancer that long-term assistance from a distance can transmit more love than just an immediate cozy hug.
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ulli
9th January 2012, 03:38
Too much pain in this world, and so much of it unnecessary.
What I said before about the Libra-Aries axis, and the problem with time....
while Aries wants instant gratification, for self self self
Libra wants total everlasting harmony for the other other other.
Librans can't exist if there is no "other" to fret over.
Totally people oriented.
And like Taurus (another Venus ruled sign, and Cancer, a Moon ruled sign, and Pisces a Neptune ruled sign) the unselfishness of these four gentle and caring signs makes it harder to let go of the planetary compulsion....after all, they mean so well, they want peace at all cost, they want others to be happy.
Yet rise above planetary compulsion is a must, in order to be truly spiritual.
Opposite Libra is Aries, the masculine warrior, and opposite Taurus is Scorpio, another masculine warrior, and opposite Pisces is Virgo, a non sentimental analyst, and opposite Cancer is cold and calculating patriarchal Capricorn...all masculine signs and politically incorrect in this new age of the divine feminine.
But Aries can teach Libra to enjoy a play fight, and allow for the process, and watch for the spark of truth emerging after the clash of opinions, Scorpio can teach Taurus how to transcend the physical via perseverance, Virgo can teach Pisces to find stability through order and discernment, and Capricorn can teach Cancer that long-term assistance from a distance can transmit more love than just an immediate cozy hug.
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You're too funny!!. Thanks, Rose!!
astrid
9th January 2012, 03:44
I have no other to fret over,
but i guess thats where my dogs come in...
I must admit disconnecting from people fretting,
and turning everyone into a "project" has been a
total relief, but until i got to that point, i had no life of my own.
Everything was just emerged into the other, also a BIG excuse
for me to not face my own demons.
Time.... tell me about it,
I'm about to embark on study,
where i have to sync with someone
else's idea of what time is.
It's going to be VERY interesting......
1inMany
9th January 2012, 05:42
Happy Birthday, Ulli :)
Busy several of days. This will be a long catchup, many people to thank here for the support through whatever that was.
Astrid, of confusion, you said:
"I found the trick is to be able to identify that voice when it's speaking… The heart gateway is where you travel to find your higher aspects…That higher aspect is never not there we are that before anything else…Many ways to do this you will find the one that works best for you.
I hope so. Your words are very reassuring, and I thank you for reminding me.
eaglespirit, you were answering my question "act how?" when you said...
from Your Inner Voice...act as it nudges...whatever that may be.... a walk on the beach...call that friend...bake that cake...listen to the birds out in the back yard...ACT from that place and trust it fully now : )
Something odd happened when I read your words, and still happens when I re-read them…it is like I am trying to remember a word, and it’s on the tip of my tongue, and it’s almost here…. Your words also sound so familiar, like I have spoken them before. They are very clear, thank you.
eaglespirit, you contributed wisely, as usual:
Unconditional Love with Wisdom &
And that's it..THAT'S IT..."Listen and Live It"...all else will simply fall in place in whatever synchronistic manner need BE for fruition : )
The really cool dream/vision!! I understand what you are saying, and I thank you as well. These words are absorbed by my heart :)
And...about the support of this Village, ernie said:
Wow, I wish I had had such an esteemed group leading me through the morass of conflicting inputs during my initial forray into these subjects of self discovery and improvement...1, you are really fortunate, and I know you appreciate it.
Yes, every moment! But I have to add that my overhaul has been taking place for years and the “get it one minute & don’t the next” seems to be my pattern. The moments that things do not effortlessly happen, my mind kicks into gear trying to discover what is different, why are things not simply flowing like they did 2 days ago, etc. I appreciate this support more than I can express because I know what it was like when I had none. I will not forget that, and I will always be thankful.
Belle, thank you so much for the reassurance:
Allow things to be just as they are and simply observe.
As for the poem you shared, ernie, I have a special appreciation of the last line...
“For ME (1) upside down is (in) WE (many).”
Much Love,
1inMany
9th January 2012, 05:47
now....modwiz...overbearing? no freaking way!
When it comes to our psyches, it would appear that the better options are available in most simulations.
Sorry, I didn’t get what you meant by most simulations.
of boundaries, you said:
They need to be smart walls with compassionate guards but they must resist the inevitable testings and/or onslaughts of the indignant.
Yes, even when it is another adult, which complicates a relationship, doesn’t it? I will remember this great new term, “smart walls” – love it.
There will be times of some peace, but for now the battle for middle earth is not over. As it was in the books this is about the battle for our sovereignty both micro and macro, personal and societal.
I will have to research “battle for middle earth” because I am unfamiliar with this…what books are you speaking of?
this was especially powerful for me,
Me is Soul, which is omnipresent in every possible place and time that can be imagined. . . The All has chosen to be a star, ant, you, me, a dog, an ocean, etc. It is interesting to watch ourselves on a video, is it not? Different perspective than being in the body.
This explains empathy in a way I’ve never thought of & adds a new dimension to my thinking. Now I see that I am feeling my (own) feelings when I’m feeling those of others, even in videos or songs…more than empathy… I can’t explain it any better than what you did.
All of this leads to the answer that I will offer to your question to, who is me? If we are All then focusing on the me that the All chose to manifest as is where the point of power and greatest validity lie in. Working with the frailties and moral questions of being human is quite a task to pull of with some grace and elegance, all while being in your power. The knowledge of our greater being allows us to lead life with dignity, rather than clawing and clinging to it like it is the only existence we will ever know. Explore the many ways the awesome power and beauty of the cosmos can be expressed through your current form, in your current life situation. Allow the greater knowledge of our timelessness and being a part of all things be the bedrock and springboard for the seemingly tiny and insignificant collection of protoplasm and bones held together in a tunic of skin, to vault ourselves into significance and meaning by experiencing the richness of emotional being through compassion in action and gratitude of the Creation.
This is very poignant, beautifully and succinctly written, and I know it to be true...I feel it. This is focus I need to keep.
Sequence is incon-sequential. It is how the ego works and is limiting. Microscopes and telescopes are great tools but suck for seeing the wholistic view of things. Trying to keep a record, in time or sequence, of how things come to be is a sure to lose the way or thread you are following. As I follow you, 1, there seems to be a tendency to slice and dice concepts. This is the ego at work, Freudian analysis at work. He came from the biological sciences and approached the mind like a frog on the dissecting table. His analysis could pull out each part and explain it s function, like a kidney or calf muscle. What his analysis could not do was put the parts back, all cleaned up, tickle the frog on the tush and send it back to productively eating mosquitoes in a pond. There is value in knowing parts and their functions but it is a process to be used very judiciously and only when a better option does not present itself.
As usual, this is a concrete example that I can understand and appreciate fully. Thank you, yes it helps a great deal to consider Freud’s chopping block and how I am following a systematic process for the concrete and tangible when trying to process the ethereal. It doesn’t work (obviously lol). A tendency I need to watch for sure.
If I ask for it, give it to me straight, no chaser! You are kind, and I can't imagine thinking you overbearing. But, if it makes you feel better I'll be sure and tell you if you do. (lol)
Much love,
¤=[Post Update]=¤
Now...who can tell me what the hell is going on in this world?!?!?!?!
I met a teenage girl a couple of weeks ago, one of my daughter’s friends. My daughter befriends the saddest little things. This girl had a boyfriend who got her drunk and whored her out. More than once. He enjoyed the apparel he earned. Apparently, she broke up with him (small miracles…) and ran into him about a week later. He approached her, the slime, and started trying to intimidate her. Feeling much stronger after being apart from him, she stood up to him. He punched her in the face. Can you believe that? She proceeded to pummel him. Right about here in the story, I’m feeling conflicted…not one to promote violence but still wanting to high five her. As he got up from the ground, he just couldn’t leave well enough alone, and turned back to say something to her. She saw him crying. Well, hell, then the emotional pain hit me like it was my own. Right in the pit of my stomach, knowing how he felt.
Then this last week, another girl who has moved away but remains friends with my daughter, called her sobbing so badly that she was not even understandable. She was gasping for breath between sobs. The girl called to tell my daughter that her father had just hit her across the face. Sounded like he backhanded her or slapped her, couldn’t tell. Apparently, he had never hit her before, “just” pulled her hair, “just” pushed her, stuff like that. My heart, since children fill it, was broken for her. And after a minute, I said out loud to my daughter, boy, I bet he sure hates himself right now.
Okay, this presents two distinct problems for me. First, the most horrendous situations are boiling over these days. If the world is in a transition to something beautiful, why are people with tendencies toward inflicting pain seemingly becoming more …Powerful? Apparent? Harmful? Dangerous? That doesn’t seem to compute (yes, there is that nasty sense-maker again). And secondly, why am I feeling empathy for the “wrong” people? That one is honestly easier to explain if I figure that I’m opening up to whatever energies are joining everyone-connecting everyone to the Whole. That means I would feel both sides as a sensitive person. But, I don’t like it one bit. I feel like I am strengthening the opposite of the harmonious force I would like to be a part of.
I think these things are the driving force behind me wanting to get away from this environment and this city. Isn’t that running away though? And, is that wrong? I just crave quiet and tranquility and a garden and fresh air and being able to have an uninterrupted flow of that energy that is uplifting and makes me feel like an angel. No wonder I get frustrated, because I’m not sure that what I crave is even possible. Conventional psychology tells me that if I leave this place, whatever problems I now have will follow me. But holy crap, I can’t solve the problems I want to get away from. No matter how hard I tried, the school system did finally kick my butt and I pulled one daughter to home school her. Does that mean I’m not strong enough, or the negatives are growing, or that neither or both are occurring and getting away from the thick of things would be helpful?
Saw a house yesterday, it’s a possibility, but I’m driving to a new town tomorrow to look around. Looking into the town, it feels…homey.
Wow-I sure have missed you guys!!!!
Much love,
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 06:10
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1inMany
9th January 2012, 06:10
Here and Now...it's raining! There is something so soothing, so cleansing about rain. I LOVE rain :) Now, this would be perfect: :rain: except it needs this face: :biggrin1:
Much Love,
modwiz
9th January 2012, 06:31
Here and Now...it's raining! There is something so soothing, so cleansing about rain. I LOVE rain :) Now, this would be perfect: :rain: except it needs this face: :biggrin1:
Much Love,
Hello 1inmany. I will address your two questions here. The word 'simulations' was meant to be 'situations'. Oops! The battle for Middle Earth is a Tolkien Lord of the Rings reference. I live as much in that world as the one I share with others. Bleedthroughs occur very frequently with me. The popularity of the books and movies allow me to get away with it most of the time. Oops2
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 06:43
Sirius aligns with the full moon this jan 9. In Cancer.
Can I have this in English please? ;)
modwiz
9th January 2012, 06:58
Happy Birthday to Ulli. A nice picture for you, if you do not already possess it.
http://www.duirwaigh.com/images/stories/asleepinthedreamfield448.jpg
meeradas
9th January 2012, 07:45
And secondly, why am I feeling empathy for the “wrong” people?
Even if you don't like it, it's a gift.
Maybe i just stumbled over this here for you:
l7AWnfFRc7g
and:
Why not follow what makes you feel happier already if you're just thinking about it?
How can that be, &
is there any importance in that being
"wrong" (seriously, i do not get "wrong"...)?
I say:
If it's in the cards, and you do not have to impossibly overstrain
yourself in any way to achieve it, you can mellow out and follow
your heart (or what makes you feel good). Dontcha feel?
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 09:09
Being an astro-book-for-dummies-type, I wish to share what I learned (minus Sirius's influence), for Cal with ♥
I can only echo what 9 posted in her previous post.
The bonds that tether us to the ones we care for and love, are also our Achilles heels.
No "materials" have the power to bring us down however, passionate attachments do.
These same attachments also have the power to "enrich" our lives.
The howling wolves we hear in the distance, warning us, are mere reminders to reassess................. core values.
We're called upon to comfort and love each other. Unconditionally. Sirius-ly
((hugs)) (as I look into the mirror)
Lisab
9th January 2012, 09:30
There was a star danced and under that I was born. Willian Shakespeare
And thank God she was. Happy Birthday Ulli x
eaglespirit
9th January 2012, 12:51
WE are the Seeds of an Empathic Energy laced with Unconditional Love nurtured by ongoing Wisdom from Within through Higher Intent and Action.
Drugs and Alcohol and Wars and Separation and Deception...Most swimming in the Swill
WE want to remove the Swill
WE remove it from Our Own Will...One by One by One, Together
WE "listen and go" to the People and Places and Things that best bring Our Personal Evolving
Entrainment Strengthens
WE Are The SHIFT
BE It
eaglespirit
9th January 2012, 12:57
Happy Birthday, Ulli!
Beautiful Sharing Here and Now, All : )
Love! Love! Love!
...
Sirius aligns with the full moon this jan 9. In Cancer.
Don't know what that means,
but it sure sounds great. To me.
[I'll never catch up with that astrology stuff... tried; won't happen]
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I WILL be in a field like that...maybe I'll see You there some time!
Why dontcha go there now?
Sshhhh Meeradas, Ssshhhhhh : ) : ) : )
....and thank you for bringing that video in #6150, refresher right on time
...and I love that pic too, Modwiz
Marianne
9th January 2012, 13:18
Because time itself is like a spiral, something special happens on your birthday each year: The same energy that God invested in you at birth is present once again.
--Menachem Mendel Schneerson
Happy Birthday, Ulli! Many happy returns.
Lisab
9th January 2012, 13:43
Laptop gone again, since Friday so not posting much just browsing.
Lynda Hills sabian symbols are up and I must say speak to what I seem to be going thru right now.
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 14:12
Wishing I was THERE and NOW!
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PurpleLama
9th January 2012, 14:44
"up ahead we have a mighty task
to love the face behind hatred's mask
on the day we understand our past
then by god almighty we'll be free at last"
recently it seems that trolls abound, and therefore so do the opportunities to sharpen ones discernment. It's good excersize that helps keep the mind and spirit fit.
on the subject of wilcock, a subject I have mostly let pass, but for the sake of calz, and his request that others step forward and do so. Because of the interview he did with camelot, we were introduced to wilcock, camelot, and the law of one pretty much simultaneously. The personal growth that occurred is inestimable. I have much gratitute towards bill, kerry, and david and towards don, carla, and jim. That being said, I also understand that the difference between them and myself is no different than that between myself and anyone else.
Cal, buddy, I feel you on this subject, substantially, I do, I really do. I see where 9 is coming from, too, and every other view is valid and justified by those who hold these myriad views. We are each entitled to think and choose what to believe, and in a more subtle way so are we entitled to what we feel and even experience, we all have our own reasons, some similar and some opposed, we can only own up to what's ours, we can't take another's. Remember in the law of one it speaks of catalyst, we make it to break us, because if it hurts or if it's hard then we grow the most. I allow others to have the day if they want to rant, I can walk away just fine. I don't have to own up to other peoples garbage, I just have to squint hard to try to find my own. This I feel is the gist of what 9 imparted, not the whole of it, but what is to me the most salient point in regards to the discussion.
Remember book 5 of the law of one? It contained the material that had been edited from the first four volumes, and it recounted the negative greeting and agreements that disrupted their group and lead to the *death* of don elkins. Now, this is essential to know, because as much at this spiritual stuff lacks 3d substance, the gravity of it is real, oh so real. I fear not for david's life, for the conduit he was meant to be was effectively neutralized when he started paying heed to insider info, conspiracy, etc. As an expression of ra, the interest in truth is paramount, and by reporting these scenarios with black ops, fulford, etc, etc, he has stopped up his own accumulation of polarity. See? From the higher perspective that he had the potential to share in a dramatic way, he pissed it all away focusing instead on the murky waters of whistleblower testamonies. This assessment in no way changes who he is or the potential he still carries, but it's my own observation. I bought three copies of his book, I support the guy, but had the book been about what he has blogged about over the last year, I wouldn't have. He has the potential to make more accessible the teachings in the law of one and to further expand upon it's principles, but he doesn't. He did a great thing putting together what he did with this last book, but honestly I got more out of his first one.
So, the recent drama with death threats and mysterious others, I can do without. I've held a focus on what's important to me, and the recent dramatics just aren't it.
I really started taking david's blog with a huge grain of salt when he reported that quarantine was over and that positive et's were working with chinese government. Now, this is so wrong on so many levels, and so contrary to the information of the law of one. How is it that I place so much emphasis on the law of one? Because upon reading the material so much of it was not new, but confirmation to what I already *knew*. It's the only way anything can have validity, it's why things "resonate" with us, deep down we know the truth. And truth just isn't to be found in the morass of black op, whistleblower reporting, that's only useful insofar as it's good to know the opposition. Magically, you don't buy it, you weave your own patterns and make them real. I do it every day, and david did it when he got that threat. I don't feel sorry for him because I don't feel sorry for myself, and I don't feel sorry for you or anyone else on this forum, except maybe for the trolls.
Here and now, I'm late in getting ready for work. Happy birthday, ulli, and just happy day to everyone else. Seems like playdo must've had one recently, as well.
write4change
9th January 2012, 14:53
1in Many, what you are feeling and seeing exists all the time in Texas. I only understood you when I realized you were in Texas. Look at who the majority of the state votes for and what they stand for. Perry executed an innocent man. Refused to even read the evidence of his guilt or innocence or what it was based on. Yet, for many people this is no problem for him being president.
One of the reasons I gave up my 4000 square foot dream house in San Antonio was a mother coming and asking my help with home owner's association for them wanting to kick them out and writing in black and white that their 19 year old down's syndrome daughter was not appropriate to the neighborhood. I was already in suit with them. I could have won the suit etc. But I sold the house at a big profit which you would think they would want--get rid of me. But no they tried to prevent that because they were into cruelty. That is there in your face all the time in Texas. Public cruelty and humiliation almost as an art form. Most people who live there find it perfectly normal. They never even think about it.
Letting people know who you really are in Texas especially spiritually is very dangerous. 60 minutes did a piece about 1995 about an Armenian living in the Dallas area who they tried to remove his sons because they were not being brought up in the religion of the majority and "he hugged them and kissed them at football games" which was totally inappropriate behavior--latent homosexuality etc. Only not if you are from a more Mediterrean culture where men are much more touchy feely with each other. Who were these people? And why could they not mind their own business?
Be well. It is not just you--it is your environment. I am planning on going back rather soon myself. But I will have a whole public cover story that I know they will approve of and I will never publicly express what I really think. And that can be as simple as frowning at a racial joke. It will be easier now that I am old. I will simply pretend deafness whenever I need to.
eaglespirit
9th January 2012, 15:19
Just posting this link here and now in memory of Don Elkins, Thanks Purple Lama : )
The Spiritual Significance of UFOs - A lecture by Don Elkins
http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_1981_0421.aspx
ulli
9th January 2012, 15:41
1in Many, what you are feeling and seeing exists all the time in Texas. I only understood you when I realized you were in Texas. Look at who the majority of the state votes for and what they stand for. Perry executed an innocent man. Refused to even read the evidence of his guilt or innocence or what it was based on. Yet, for many people this is no problem for him being president.
One of the reasons I gave up my 4000 square foot dream house in San Antonio was a mother coming and asking my help with home owner's association for them wanting to kick them out and writing in black and white that their 19 year old down's syndrome daughter was not appropriate to the neighborhood. I was already in suit with them. I could have won the suit etc. But I sold the house at a big profit which you would think they would want--get rid of me. But no they tried to prevent that because they were into cruelty. That is there in your face all the time in Texas. Public cruelty and humiliation almost as an art form. Most people who live there find it perfectly normal. They never even think about it.
Letting people know who you really are in Texas especially spiritually is very dangerous. 60 minutes did a piece about 1995 about an Armenian living in the Dallas area who they tried to remove his sons because they were not being brought up in the religion of the majority and "he hugged them and kissed them at football games" which was totally inappropriate behavior--latent homosexuality etc. Only not if you are from a more Mediterrean culture where men are much more touchy feely with each other. Who were these people? And why could they not mind their own business?
Be well. It is not just you--it is your environment. I am planning on going back rather soon myself. But I will have a whole public cover story that I know they will approve of and I will never publicly express what I really think. And that can be as simple as frowning at a racial joke. It will be easier now that I am old. I will simply pretend deafness whenever I need to.
Whenever I found my environment become too brutal for fragile little me then my suppressed escapism came to the fore and manifested a hole in the wall...and whoops, I wasn't in Kansas any more.
45 house moves, 4 countries.
Traveled to thirty countries and now settled in two, with an apartment near the ocean in Barbados and mountain valley in Central America.
Beautiful nature in both, but also third world poverty, materialism, strong religious indoctrination, maybe the bigots aren't quite as bad as in Texas, there is more diversity, that's for sure.
It's people that make life tough, plants and animals are easy.
PurpleLama
9th January 2012, 15:46
Purplelama has now become visible, once again.
9eagle9
9th January 2012, 15:48
I think these things are the driving force behind me wanting to get away from this environment and this city. Isn’t that running away though? And, is that wrong? I just crave quiet and tranquility and a garden and fresh air and being able to have an uninterrupted flow of that energy that is uplifting and makes me feel like an angel. No wonder I get frustrated, because I’m not sure that what I crave is even possible. Conventional psychology tells me that if I leave this place, whatever problems I now have will follow me. But holy crap, I can’t solve the problems
Your self , who you are, wil not only tell you otherwise, it jus brings it in what you want. Granted if you don't know who, we often times don't know what we want but your 'finding yourself process' can be accomplished just as well (if not better) in fresh air rather the city.
I spent a year in the crowded home of my sister helping her and my other two sisters take care of my terminally ill mother. During this time, my job got cut back and the company thought it would be better to accomadate my hospice situation by laying me off altogether. After my mother died it was very stressful being in the house, with limited income, and there's a lot of resentment around me due to my family's conditioning. It's very hard to explain to three women who don't know what 'job market' intails how hard it is to bring an income in these times. A lot pressure from others to perform what they had never challenged with. Old bad childhood crap coming there, being expected always to do what others are not willing to do but do it with absolutely no means doing it. Magick tricks essentially. With no escape in sight I just had to throw it in the air, as impossible as it seemed, and just let my higher self take care of it. Put me where I can breathe, put me where I belong.
Within a week I'm out of the city and back in the country. Mind that what's what I wanted, what I was going to settle for was best accomadations I could manage which would not be nearly so pleasant as they are here. It will deliver more than you can think on your own. No conventional pyschology won't support this but the higher expression will.
ulli
9th January 2012, 16:01
Wishing I was THERE and NOW!
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...and I wish you were Here, Now, and we could sit and chat and gossip about everything and everybody.
12527
YAY!!!!!!
It worked. My first direct attachment upload from my drive.
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 16:13
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...and I wish you were Here, Now, and we could sit and chat and gossip about everything and everybody.
Me? Gossip? Gasp!!
lol Ulli, did you use tinypic?
9eagle9
9th January 2012, 16:31
And postscript.
There is no increase in pain infliction or pain. We are only becoming more aware of it, we are becoming more aware of it because we have finally reached a place where we have become aware of our own pain. If we can't manage our pain , or what some people call pain body, we begin to attach it to other people in attempt to purge it.
"They are the cause of my pain" (You're being mean to me)
or
"I feel pain because I am witnessing the "what I fear in my pain in another" (feeling badly for another)
We end up minding (literally) other's pain before minding our own. If we leave this free space unattended and don't manage our own pain something will come in and manage it for you. In a small way, like reacting to external events and big ways that require excorcism. All of it though, small to large is excorcism.
An excorcist does not take out devils and demons and cure things. They find the pain the entity has attached to. In realeasing it , externals things can no longer influence there. Extraction of negative energies is just tidy up part, not the central focus.
We ignore our own pain and focus on the pain of others. We invite in our possession. We feel this is virtuous but it's not because pain is bad and unnaturual feeling but a condition we've lived in for so long that....we've allowed it to be a natural part of our existence. To the extent for some, if pain is not present, we feel like something is wrong. And will create it in order for things to seem 'normal'. In some fashion or another.
Feeling badly towards others is just sending our own bad pain and bad juju to them.. Then we excuse it as sympathy and make 'sending bad energy' a 'virtue'--- we just keep replicating the pain. We have been taught that sharing our pain and the pain of others is virtous. When you look at this in a clear minded way there is nothing even remotely sane about sending pain. Its destructive. This is not to say we are callous towards other's pain but there are appropriate ways of helping each other without going into pain re-creation mode where we just re-create it over and over again.
This is why there seems to be so much pain out there.
We are trying to purge our own by working it out in events that are external of us. The pain is inside of us though.
We are projecting it so we are seeing it more.
We are particularly seeing pain where there is no reason for it. We get in the pain story instead of an actual cause of pain. My young riding student girls understand this in an instant. They are fearful and in pain 'when nothing is happening' which ruins their whole enjoyment of the experience. It takes five minutes to shift this 'creation' of pain in a 7 year old. Children who don't understant the concept of it know instantly how to clear it. But to get an adult to do it....nothing but resistance. "I want my PAIN!!! if you will not share in my pain re-creation, I'm going put myself away from you!
People think that others resist doing clearing work because painful emotions come up. Nope. They want their pain. They what they don't want. It makes them feel normal. When you are transitioning from pain body to whole body, things 'FEEL" loopy and off balance. But we've taught again that not being balanced is wrong so we don't enter that loopy place. We are actually coming to a more grounded state. Like people who live on freighter ships, they spend much time being off balance to accomdate the roll of the waves, that they feel weird on even ground.
So I tell my students. When you are falling off your horse, you have right to be afraid. It's okay. So sit where you are and feel the fear and it will go away. It doesn't have an outlet and event to express itself in. So it just has to evaporate. There's no use for it.
When you hit the ground its typical that you expect pain.
But nothing is happening right now, but you're crying and afraid as if it were. Why? Because of the thought of it, not the actual occurence.
Kids grasp this in a heartbeat. Most of all I emphasize its not falling off the horse they fear, its the pain of hitting the ground. Then they are making the horse the cause of the fear when it's actually the impact of the ground they are afraid of. And only once in a while are we hurt by hitting the ground. So we further ID our fear by 'its not so much hitting the ground its the shock of hitting the ground." Hit the ground, your stunned, you lose your breath, but.... five minutes later your fine. They pop up, "I'm not hurt" . Confusign shock with pain. If they were in pain they'd be hurt.
Kids have weirdly healthy ways of managing pain.
I Had all these girls afraid of falling off their horses for the reasons mentioned. One of my friends came up with the idea of having a Fallen Angels poster. Whoever falls off gets a photo taken of them and put on the poster. . Another friend got sets of pin on angel wings...So now , save for a few, their all riding like dervishes, and losing their stirrips and falling off like rain drops because they want to be on that board. It represents triumph over fear and pain to them. That's how they share their fear and pain with each other.
So amazing to me they get this so easily.
People often enter into relationships because they share the same state of woundedness. You can't base an unconditional relationship on conditioned wounds so the whole merry go round of break up and then get back together to 'work it out' ensues. We've all seen this. What they don't know if they are not trying to work out the relationship they are trying to work out their own pain.
ulli
9th January 2012, 17:04
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...and I wish you were Here, Now, and we could sit and chat and gossip about everything and everybody.
Me? Gossip? Gasp!!
lol Ulli, did you use tinypic?
I had some teething problems with tinypic. I think I have to register first.
But I did remember that there was another way: go to the "Go Advanced" button on the bottom of the edit page here, then click on the attachment icon
then the uploader appears...and the rest is easy.
Oops... here are a few more from our land yesterday, clean river, sunshine and my flowers are blooming:
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ulli
9th January 2012, 17:13
People often enter into relationships because they share the same state of woundedness. You can't base an unconditional relationship on conditioned wounds so the whole merry go round of break up and then get back together to 'work it out' ensues. We've all seen this. What they don't know if they are not trying to work out the relationship they are trying to work out their own pain.
All this is very true.
Still, there are other levels of perceiving these issues, levels which allow for whatever process is needed, and aren't quite so adamant about getting it right the first time.
I consider perfectionism about these issues just as much a stumbling block to healthy relations as the attachment to one's wounds.
What matters in my view is not so much the perfected individual as the relationship between individuals at different levels of perfection and different stages in their journey.
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 17:27
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=12527&d=1326124507
Where's the Chardonnay?
9eagle9
9th January 2012, 17:38
While a certain understanding of one's pain is necessary , and I have found it vastly more helpful to show someone their pain instead of just saying, "you're in pain, get rid of it.."
You are correct one has to re-frame lose that word perfection. Another word that has been misaligned into consciouenss. Wholeness and authenticity aren't perfection .
Self integration is messy.
As long we are in a indivudal state, perfection is always going be based on individual judgements. But that word leaks in all the time, we are 'perfecting' ourselves and that is standard that has been raised . And it results in people who are constantly failing at being perfect. A impossible standard. That's how the role playing comes in, I can't 'perfect' myself so I will find a role that is more perfect.
Sometimes we have to go as far as detach from having the 'need' to understand. When someone has reached that point though, that's about as close to perfection as we can come on this physical plane. Weirdly, once you can detach from the need to understand you seem to understand more...lol.
Much of what is posted in this forum in articles and material is the 'need' to understand.
That 'need' to understand mechanism can lead to creating another beleif system to a accomadate what we don't understand. Probably how the nine zillion different sects and offshoots of Christianity were developed.
There's a space there that 'needs' to be filled so we end up flogging the understanding horse till it can no longer carry us. . There are healthy ways of filling it or ways that just keep us running in circles . When you see these angst raddled flare ups when someones belief is challenged its scab picking...lol. Someone threatens that belief that is filling that empty space and one grows defensive. But even the fact that I don't share a belief system with other's is enough to cause them pain.
(One of my friends is hugely powerful emotional healing facilitator and we call her a 'scab picker'.)
But it is a process so that means we can never get it right the first time because a process is steps of first time, second, third time. We weren't hit once with pain but many times.....
But one has to understand they have to intiate the process by taking that first step. What one eventually arrives at are finding the shared psychic traumas we've all experienced collectively. Then you see what splendid we were before the hammer came down, glimpses here and there. It's surreal. Like those faery-esque photos that' have been posted. We seem to be drawn to that surreal expression because at the bottom of it all that's who we once were.
ulli
9th January 2012, 17:50
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=12527&d=1326124507
Where's the Chardonnay?
It was on the table just outside the photo. Unfortunately my friends drank it faster than my camera could say "click".
I managed to save you some Cabernet Sauvignon, though:
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ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 17:59
It was on the table just outside the photo. Unfortunately my friends drank it faster than my camera could say "click".
Oh, okay. Dont invite him/her next time. I don't like competition. *cough*
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r167/Anni_Cat/Random/SmileyWine.jpg
Calz
9th January 2012, 19:30
Guest appearance here and now.
Seems my Bilbo birthday disappearing act didn't go over too well.
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Short but sincere thank you to all who have reached out in various fashions.
astrid ... purple ... wow I am really humbled among so many others.
As astrid alluded to in a generic assessment of Libra I don't process anger well. In my case it causes some serious physical pain to my heart. My first responsibility is to my family and thus I am taking some time off.
Happy birthday (again) to the queen.
Will do what I can to move any "stormclouds" beyond the shire borders. 9 was one of my very first good friends here and I expect we can work that out somehow.
In the meanwhile ...
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Guest
9th January 2012, 19:36
Happy Birthday Ulli:angel::hug: i love your big ole cuddly cat.
Love
Nora
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 19:44
Hurry Back Cal. Don't want your coffee to get cold!
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ulli
9th January 2012, 19:48
Arnold and Clint dialogue:
Clint: Make my (birth) Day!!!!
Aanold: I'll be BAAACK!!!
Thanks for making my day, Calz!!!!!!!!!!
ulli
9th January 2012, 19:58
Happy Birthday Ulli:angel::hug: i love your big ole cuddly cat.
Love
Nora
Here is a picture of them both, ChewChew Bear and KiddieKiddie, the kitten that appeared right after Easter.
Both are posing next to the statue my mother-in-law made when my husband was 4 years old. She was an art teacher then.
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9eagle9
9th January 2012, 20:01
Cal you don't have to process anger like its a 12 step program. We avoid it because we think the process exposes us to more anger or causes pain. The process is the release of pain. When we release pain we feel it as it comes up and then its gone after a few minutes. If we hold on to it, it just erupts whenever it feels like it, sucks back down and we never get rid of it.
I know everyone says its bad to be angry. That is another judgment of ourselves. How much judgements can we hold espeically if they are all in a state of conflict. We're good, we're bad, we're happy, we're angry. One day the Ka-boom is going to come.
It's not right to go out and beat the **** out of someone becaise we are angry/. One can be angry withotu having an action/reaction to it.
But what is wrong with sitting at your desk and succumbing to anger. No action/reaction is necessary. Just sti there in your anger.
Anger management is not like herding cows moving it from one spot to the other. It's just releasing it. Feeling it, owning it, not judging it and then pffffft...it's gone. five minutes, ten minutes. No emotion goes on forever...lol. Unless we suck it in over and over.
Yes if you are getting a visual of someone angry and screaming at themselves not to be angry and then screaming again that it's okay to be angry...until one collapses into a fit of crying...that is a bout on mark. It's an internal struggle when we quit fighting it there's nothing for it to struggle against. So we have choice. Keep it 'managed' in a nice little box until some exernal event comes along and opens the box...or just let it release when you feel it.
Like my little riding girls. Just let them be angry, or afraid and it evaporates. Then it takes that heart pain with it.
Instead we are taught to suck it up or avoid it. One only have so much supressed anger/grief before we start feeling pain. That's good. What is scary are people who are angry and grief stricken who can't feel their pain.
I guess that is a process but...its so simple--just sit in it for few--I can't call it a process. What hurts the heart is sucking up the anger instead of just sitting in it and saying . Okay I'm angry, It's okay I'm angry. and not judging the anger, just letting it be what is is. or excusing it. "I'm angry because because because.....
It's just "I'm angry"
It just goes away. By not addressing it , is what causes the pain. Anger is nearly always attached to grief. Sadness. So if you sit in that anger for a minute , or two or five, you are probably going to start crying--and that's okay. or at the least start feeling sad. Don't judge it or force it away...just sit in it, after a few minutes it will be replaced by something that will suprise you.
I never seen it fail...ever. Not once. That suprise moment never ceases to show up.
You may have to this several times but your just allowing your self pain release.
Fear is managed the same way. Instead people burble on about not being afraid. You have to be in your fear for a while to release ...then it's gone. There is not fear. Telling someone not to be afraid, amounts to asking for a kick in the nuts. It's a stupid impossible mechanism. We can't 'tell' our emotions anything.
I plop down several times a day to be...
I'm angry
I'm confused
I'm hurt
I'm awful
the more I do this the less I have to do it...
When you get all that crap out...there's only one thing that can remain...and that is the 'suprise'.
Calz
9th January 2012, 20:12
Cal you don't have to process anger like its a 12 step program. We avoid it because we think the process exposes us to more anger or causes pain. The process is the release of pain. When we release pain we feel it as it comes up and then its gone after a few minutes. If we hold on to it, it just erupts whenever it feels like it, sucks back down and we never get rid of it.
I know everyone says its bad to be angry. That is another judgment of ourselves. How much judgements can we hold espeically if they are all in a state of conflict. We're good, we're bad, we're happy, we're angry. One day the Ka-boom is going to come.
It's not right to go out and beat the **** out of someone becaise we are angry/. One can be angry withotu having an action/reaction to it.
But what is wrong with sitting at your desk and succumbing to anger. No action/reaction is necessary. Just sti there in your anger.
Anger management is not like herding cows moving it from one spot to the other. It's just releasing it. Feeling it, owning it, not judging it and then pffffft...it's gone. five minutes, ten minutes. No emotion goes on forever...lol. Unless we suck it in over and over.
Yes if you are getting a visual of someone angry and screaming at themselves not to be angry and then screaming again that it's okay to be angry...until one collapses into a fit of crying...that is a bout on mark. It's an internal struggle when we quit fighting it there's nothing for it to struggle against. So we have choice. Keep it 'managed' in a nice little box until some exernal event comes along and opens the box...or just let it release when you feel it.
Like my little riding girls. Just let them be angry, or afraid and it evaporates. Then it takes that heart pain with it.
Instead we are taught to suck it up or avoid it. One only have so much supressed anger/grief before we start feeling pain. That's good. What is scary are people who are angry and grief stricken who can't feel their pain.
I guess that is a process but...its so simple--just sit in it for few--I can't call it a process. What hurts the heart is sucking up the anger instead of just sitting in it and saying . Okay I'm angry, It's okay I'm angry. and not judging the anger, just letting it be what is is. or excusing it. "I'm angry because because because.....
It's just "I'm angry"
It just goes away. By not addressing it , is what causes the pain. Anger is nearly always attached to grief. Sadness. So if you sit in that anger for a minute , or two or five, you are probably going to start crying--and that's okay. or at the least start feeling sad. Don't judge it or force it away...just sit in it, after a few minutes it will be replaced by something that will suprise you.
I never seen it fail...ever. Not once. That suprise moment never ceases to show up.
You may have to this several times but your just allowing your self pain release.
Fear is managed the same way. Instead people burble on about not being afraid. You have to be in your fear for a while to release ...then it's gone. There is not fear. Telling someone not to be afraid, amounts to asking for a kick in the nuts. It's a stupid impossible mechanism. We can't 'tell' our emotions anything.
I plop down several times a day to be...
I'm angry
I'm confused
I'm hurt
I'm awful
the more I do this the less I have to do it...
When you get all that crap out...there's only one thing that can remain...and that is the 'suprise'.
:stop:
:lalala:
later my good friend ... let us have a margarita toast to ulli's birthday :washing:
( I'll be back ... we shall do this not here and not now ... agreed? You willing to take care of my kids if I have a heart attack and pass??? ... didn't think so)
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meeradas
9th January 2012, 20:27
Ulli!
"Ein Ständchen zum Geburtstag"
BxQSEvHdyjQ
I know it's late... Hope you like it as i did.
[after watching it again - this is absolutely grand!]
meeradas
9th January 2012, 20:34
I guess that is a process but...its so simple--just sit in it for few--I can't call it a process. What hurts the heart is sucking up the anger instead of just sitting in it and saying . Okay I'm angry, It's okay I'm angry. and not judging the anger, just letting it be what is is. or excusing it. "I'm angry because because because.....
It's just "I'm angry"
It just goes away. By not addressing it , is what causes the pain. Anger is nearly always attached to grief. Sadness. So if you sit in that anger for a minute , or two or five, you are probably going to start crying--and that's okay. or at the least start feeling sad. Don't judge it or force it away...just sit in it, after a few minutes it will be replaced by something that will suprise you.
I never seen it fail...ever. Not once. [...]
the more I do this the less I have to do it...
When you get all that crap out...there's only one thing that can remain...and that is the 'suprise'.
9, most excellent.
Thank you.
ulli
9th January 2012, 20:41
Ulli!
"Ein Ständchen zum Geburtstag"
BxQSEvHdyjQ
I know it's late... Hope you like it as i did.
[after watching this vid again - this is absolutely grand!]
This was really precious. Pura Vida!! as they say in Costa Rica.
Even your Avatar picture started to move in rhythm with those kids.
Thank you, das Meer.
Calz
9th January 2012, 21:16
Well now ... this is interesting. I always considered the genders to be equal ... different but equal.
I am a parent. You know what??? My 2nd child I was the one to sleep with, feed and tend to his needs. I was the one who did the bonding simply because of the hours worked with both parents working different shifts.
You know what else is funny?
He reminds me of you. He is *never* wrong. He is *never* without an answer. Remarkably bright 10 year old.
That said I have never experienced love on a more intense level in my life (including family lovers whatever). He has a heart as big as Jupiter (Leo).
A question that may be more easily managed by taking away ..filters, beliefs, thoughts,ideas, feelings etc and tackeling that from a place of what is leftover after all those have been subtracted. Or perhaps looking at it from a standpoint of what conscious is not.
Every mother has experienced for herself the difference between knowing and thinking. Mother's intuition. And maybe that is why women have kids ...lol....to have that experience of pure knowing rather than dependance on conscious thought.
I don't like to leave men out but I can't go there (not having the current experience of masculinity) and I personally think they are a different species so the same may not apply
define: "Conscious".
Aye.....there's the rub.
Okay men are a different species.
Yes of course you will go to great lengths to spin your way out of saying that ... or else spin your way into accepting it as fact.
The 9 is never wrong.
What part of we all experience lifetimes in each gender and all astro signs to experience everything am I missing here???
Absolutely the last thing in the world I wanted was to continue our conversation here (and now) but where else shall I "stick it"???
I errored in bringing the Ishtar "issue" here but that was because that thread was in meltdown at that time (due to several members). I didn't want to add to that burden.
Yes ... of course ... mirrors. Attachments. Let us let the witches burn because that is not our business. Poof. Detachment. No problemo.
The great and powerful oz cranking behind the curtain says so and so it must be.
So ... again here we are ... here and now.
What can we do to move this outside the thread???
Shall we start a poll???
Is this of interest to the village???
Are we all learning something???
... or what?
Does the village approve of my continued role of the whipping boy so we can all learn about mirrors, genders and reality as an evolved Pisces pontificates???
No prob. I am good. I should have been asleep 3 hours ago so can adapt.
Sorry villagers ... when anyone supplies parenting tips and suggests they all fall into the same box (gender specific) I doth protest.
Good night villagers and I am exhausted of explanations for why storm clouds must exist here.
I tried my best to move beyond that ...
ulli
9th January 2012, 21:33
Well now ... this is interesting. I always considered the genders to be equal ... different but equal.
I am a parent. You know what??? My 2nd child I was the one to sleep with, feed and tend to his needs. I was the one who did the bonding simply because of the hours worked with both parents working different shifts.
You know what else is funny?
He reminds me of you. He is *never* wrong. He is *never* without an answer. Remarkably bright 10 year old.
That said I have never experienced love on a more intense level in my life (including family lovers whatever). He has a heart as big as Jupiter (Leo).
A question that may be more easily managed by taking away ..filters, beliefs, thoughts,ideas, feelings etc and tackeling that from a place of what is leftover after all those have been subtracted. Or perhaps looking at it from a standpoint of what conscious is not.
Every mother has experienced for herself the difference between knowing and thinking. Mother's intuition. And maybe that is why women have kids ...lol....to have that experience of pure knowing rather than dependance on conscious thought.
I don't like to leave men out but I can't go there (not having the current experience of masculinity) and I personally think they are a different species so the same may not apply
define: "Conscious".
Aye.....there's the rub.
Okay men are a different species.
Yes of course you will go to great lengths to spin your way out of saying that ... or else spin your way into accepting it as fact.
The 9 is never wrong.
What part of we all experience lifetimes in each gender and all astro signs to experience everything am I missing here???
Absolutely the last thing in the world I wanted was to continue our conversation here (and now) but where else shall I "stick it"???
I errored in bringing the Ishtar "issue" here but that was because that thread was in meltdown at that time (due to several members). I didn't want to add to that burden.
Yes ... of course ... mirrors. Attachments. Let us let the witches burn because that is not our business. Poof. Detachment. No problemo.
The great and powerful oz cranking behind the curtain says so and so it must be.
So ... again here we are ... here and now.
What can we do to move this outside the thread???
Shall we start a poll???
Is this of interest to the village???
Are we all learning something???
... or what?
Does the village approve of my continued role of the whipping boy so we can all learn about mirrors, genders and reality as an evolved Pisces pontificates???
No prob. I am good. I should have been asleep 3 hours ago so can adapt.
Sorry villagers ... when anyone supplies parenting tips and suggests they all fall into the same box (gender specific) I doth protest.
Good night villagers and I am exhausted of explanations for why storm clouds must exist here.
I tried my best to move beyond that ...
Calz
Here and Now
and not preaching...just stating that I simply cannot see the storm clouds you are referring to.
Just say your thing.
Whatever it is.
This thread is for here and now...
WHATEVER IT IS.
What is, is. What ain't, ain't!!
Please feel FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
the queen is not setting ANY standards here.
All Villagers are mature enough to know what to read and what to pass on, and that may vary from person to person and from moment to moment.
I don't see the clouds you are seeing, but so what?
I can't see the mice my cats can see at night either...so what?
You are ALL marvelous....(projecting here and now!)
ulli, who is having a great day and is not in the least bit phased
:note: :dance:
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 21:35
If not here, then where?
♥
eaglespirit
9th January 2012, 21:48
CALZ...You ARE In The Middle Of The "Move" Beyond...right here and now!!!
You and I need to talk...man to man in person...how about telephoneinternepathy!?!
A BIG part of why I am here and got slam-dunk-slapped so hard on that Indian hill and at a place nearby called Lightning Rock a few years after my Son's death is because I had something to do with "helping" to balance and bring forth the Female Energy from way, way, way back and oh so penetratingly deep here on Mother Earth to the here and now and beyond and I became a living conduit in Peru and You now have urged this out in the open and YOU have something to do along this line in this timeline and ARE in the process of processing and are on a major hop, skip, and jump in Your Own Journey in this very same wonderful direction My Dear Friend!!!
Lisab
9th January 2012, 21:51
Meeradas loved that vid you posted for Ulli, so cool.
ViralSpiral
9th January 2012, 21:56
CALZ...You ARE In The Middle Of The "Move" Beyond...right here and now!!!
You and I need to talk...man to man in person...how about telephoneinternepathy!?!
A BIG part of why I am here and got slam-dunk-slapped so hard on that Indian hill and at a place nearby called Lightning Rock a few years after my Son's death is because I had something to do with "helping" to balance and bring forth the female energy from way, way, way back and oh so penetratingly deep here on Mother Earth to the here and now and beyond and I became a living conduit in Peru and You now have urged this out in the open and YOU have something to do along this line in this timeline and ARE in the process of processing and are on a major hop, skip, and jump in Your Own Journey in this very same wonderful direction My Dear Friend!!!
WOW!!!! Eagle, that made my spirit soar!
Thank you!
p.s. so sorry to learn of your son's passing :(
dan33
9th January 2012, 22:02
I laughed a lot with Bud Schulberg's novel "The Disenchanted".The novel describes a character based on Scott Fitzgerald .Schulberg worked with him in Hollywood.
Manley Halliday (Scott Fitzgerald) and a young writer, leave the
"Club 21". Halliday starts talking in the taxi (a taxi which should lead them to the hotel but end up in Harlem)
“Remember what I said. Without thinking. Is the only way to live, tofeel alive. We went to bed at two o'clock. We could not sleep.Jere said <let's go to Harlem>. Once we went in pajamas . A black cop tried to stop us. We said we were returning from a costume party, and we were going dressed as bedtime. Then we invited the cop to a drink .... and ha, ha, hee, hee. .., at seven o'clock he came home with us.We Cooked scrambled eggs and we all play the piano, and started another party that lasted two days. Luther.that was his name, Luther MacDaniel. A black with a Scottish name. My maternal grandmother was also called MacDaniel. That's why we celebrate the feast. Luther was fired for being absenDios t without permission, and then won a lot of money from smuggling of alcohol. .... Ten years ago have not seen him. My God , how time flies. "
marvelous.... :)
ulli
9th January 2012, 22:05
One of the amazing things about life and the Law of One is that even those who don't have a clue that it's my birthday
still manage to send me a birthday present.
Never mind they left the parcel in the wrong thread...it was easy to find.
It gave me such a laff.......favorite show...the good episodes. Not all TV sucks....
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meeradas
9th January 2012, 22:26
Right now,
our mutual friend Ernie is "viewing [an] attachment".
Intriguing how the forum advertises our inner work...
[Hi Ernie! :wave:]
ulli
9th January 2012, 22:32
getting sirius now, after what Carmody told us yesterday...sun is opposite Sirius today....
my B-Day
so I thought of all these great wisdoms I have learnt in my lifetime. And
few match Lazarus Long's Laundry List:
(From Robert Heinlein's Time Enough For Love)
here is a snippet:
After a long time it is hard to tell a real memory from a memory of a memory of a memory of a real memory. That’s what happens when you think about the past: You edit it and rearrange it, make it more tolerable.
Give the future enough thought to be ready for it, but don’t worry about it. Live each day as if you were to die next sunrise. Then face each sunrise as a fresh creation and live for it, joyously. And never think about the past. No regrets, ever.
Work is not an end in itself; there must always be time enough for love.
Privacy is as necessary as company; you can drive a man crazy by depriving him of either.
If a man pushes a rock, can he ignore an avalanche that follows?
Men are more sentimental than women. It blurs their thinking.
Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you can’t win.
Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proved innocent.
Always listen to experts. They’ll tell you what can’t be done, and why. Then do it.
A “pacifist male” is a contradiction in terms.
What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help.
If you don’t like yourself, you can’t like other people.
Cheops’ Law: Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget.
All men are created unequal.
Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.
It may be better to be a live jackal than a dead lion, but it is better still to be a live lion. And usually easier.
Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves.
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don’t ever count on having both at once.
Courage is the complement of fear. A man who is fearless cannot be courageous. (He is also a fool.)
People who go broke in a big way never miss any meals.
The more you love, the more you can love – and the more intensely you love.
Beware of altruism. It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil.
Everybody lies about sex.
Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
A competent and self-confident person is incapable of jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity.
Money is the sincerest of all flattery.
You live and learn. Or you don’t live long.
One man’s “magic” is another man’s engineering. “Supernatural” is a null word.
“Of course” means you had best check it yourself.
Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy.
Money is the universal weapon.
It is never foolish to love.
If the human animal has any value at all, he is too valuable to be property. If he has any inner dignity, he is much too proud to own other men.
Some people are ants by nature; they have to work, even when it’s useless. Few people have a talent for constructive laziness.
A pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun – and neither can stop the march of events.
No matter where or what, there are makers, takers, and fakers.
Happiness is in the heart.
A “critic” is a man who creates nothing and thereby feels qualified to judge the work of creative men. There is logic in this; he is unbiased – he hates all creative people equally.
Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.
Being generous is inborn; being altruistic is a learned perversity.
Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.
A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain.
PurpleLama
9th January 2012, 22:42
I must say, I love Heinlein, but I love Dick even more.
ulli
9th January 2012, 22:59
I must say, I love Heinlein, but I love Dick even more.
You mean like this one?
“If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.”
Or this one?
“There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore.
Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me.”
― Philip K. Dick
markoid
9th January 2012, 23:10
Coming out of lurk mode for a moment to wish dear Ulli a happy birthday!
Calz: Like others, I don't find your contributions to be storm clouds either.
Thanks to all who contribute here for the love, learning, laughter and humanity that you bring here..... I really appreciate this rare oasis.
meeradas
9th January 2012, 23:16
Time to face death's little brother for now.
"Good nite!"
with sth not completely outa context
[which has def been posted on the forum, if not here, before]:
ZZKkxAQYxyE
See you.
Marianne
9th January 2012, 23:18
Mark, good to see you! Don't stay away too long.
Ulli, I love your laundry list.
I made leek and potato soup since it's a cold, rainy & foggy evening. Toasted cornbread croutons and sour cream for the top, and steamed Brussels sprouts. Good enough for a Monday.
I bought a book today called 'Shadow Dance' by David Richo. In need of a little direction. Going to dive into it in a little while.
PurpleLama
9th January 2012, 23:24
I have a bit of synchronicity with ol' PKD. I feel strongly the sentiments of each of those quotes....
in the first, change the word universe to the word timeline, but it's the same difference, as it were
in the second, just say I was glad to find out that webOS refused to develop a platform that would work with carrierIQ, or similar nonsense
he said his most important works were the quasi-trilogy of valis, the divine invasion, and the transmigration of timothy archer, but it was a trick. The real third book is radio free albumuth. One of the most important works of "fiction" out there, that third one.
lordy, talking like this is liable to get me drones with breakfast in the morning. Ha
modwiz
9th January 2012, 23:35
Well now ... this is interesting. I always considered the genders to be equal ... different but equal.
I am a parent. You know what??? My 2nd child I was the one to sleep with, feed and tend to his needs. I was the one who did the bonding simply because of the hours worked with both parents working different shifts.
You know what else is funny?
He reminds me of you. He is *never* wrong. He is *never* without an answer. Remarkably bright 10 year old.
That said I have never experienced love on a more intense level in my life (including family lovers whatever). He has a heart as big as Jupiter (Leo).
A question that may be more easily managed by taking away ..filters, beliefs, thoughts,ideas, feelings etc and tackeling that from a place of what is leftover after all those have been subtracted. Or perhaps looking at it from a standpoint of what conscious is not.
Every mother has experienced for herself the difference between knowing and thinking. Mother's intuition. And maybe that is why women have kids ...lol....to have that experience of pure knowing rather than dependance on conscious thought.
I don't like to leave men out but I can't go there (not having the current experience of masculinity) and I personally think they are a different species so the same may not apply
define: "Conscious".
Aye.....there's the rub.
Okay men are a different species.
Yes of course you will go to great lengths to spin your way out of saying that ... or else spin your way into accepting it as fact.
The 9 is never wrong.
What part of we all experience lifetimes in each gender and all astro signs to experience everything am I missing here???
Absolutely the last thing in the world I wanted was to continue our conversation here (and now) but where else shall I "stick it"???
I errored in bringing the Ishtar "issue" here but that was because that thread was in meltdown at that time (due to several members). I didn't want to add to that burden.
Yes ... of course ... mirrors. Attachments. Let us let the witches burn because that is not our business. Poof. Detachment. No problemo.
The great and powerful oz cranking behind the curtain says so and so it must be.
So ... again here we are ... here and now.
What can we do to move this outside the thread???
Shall we start a poll???
Is this of interest to the village???
Are we all learning something???
... or what?
Does the village approve of my continued role of the whipping boy so we can all learn about mirrors, genders and reality as an evolved Pisces pontificates???
No prob. I am good. I should have been asleep 3 hours ago so can adapt.
Sorry villagers ... when anyone supplies parenting tips and suggests they all fall into the same box (gender specific) I doth protest.
Good night villagers and I am exhausted of explanations for why storm clouds must exist here.
I tried my best to move beyond that ...
Calz, I have had many a conversation with women who have a less than stellar opinion of men based on their experiences with them. I usually spare them the obvious observation of, it takes two to tango and if you draw flies.....? So, I let such gender bashing pass because someone is still in process and I wish to honor that. I assume that any problem I am having with women means that I need to be alone. I guess all women do not talk incessantly, very often about emotional stuff, it is just that I haven't met them yet. I see the genders as expressing very differently in the physical form. I think it is all part of the 'system', and a good one at that. I do believe there is an exalted state of gender that is part of the goal. Embodying the essence of the gender in a way that compliments rather than clashes. A true dance where push and pull create a dynamic magic and power the Universe.
astrid
9th January 2012, 23:45
Reading an excellent and timely new blog post from Duncan..
http://duncanofinioan.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/why-are-we-here/
Drinking a green smoothie and getting ready to connect
with both of my new teachers.
Just about to put in a call to my Aussie teacher and
I have an online circle in a couple of hours,
very much looking forward to this journey beginning,
the waiting around has been so looooooonnngggggg!!
Hope your birthday is a fine one Ulli,
many blessings for the day
hugs, Astrid
Ernie Nemeth
9th January 2012, 23:52
I'm caught up now, Meeradas.
Warning, phone buzzed, automated advert..."This is your captain speaking. You have won two boarding passes..." - click (me hanging up).
Heeding warning...
astrid
9th January 2012, 23:56
Reading my Astro report for the day,
Sun Sextile Chiron
"An understanding atmosphere
You are particularly perceptive during this time - you have an almost infallible feeling for the fine,
often unnoticed sensitivities of others and can take these into account during team-work and in conversations.
In this way you create an open, sympathetic atmosphere in which your counterpart feels relaxed and secure.
This is an excellent background for all personal contact and private talks with people who are close to you.
Perhaps small hurts that others have suffered, which have made them sensitive, will come up in conversation.
Should you find out that you yourself - even if unintentionally - were the cause of this injury,
you now have the opportunity to make this good. Even small wounds need to be healed. "
activity period from 9 January 2012 to 11 January 2012
9eagle9
10th January 2012, 00:19
Well Cal, here you go. If I wait long enough someone always comes along become a living example of the points I try to make .
Look at the post . It said "I personally think" that men are different species.
A NOTION that I PERSONALLY entertain. That is why the statement is prefaced by "I think".
Neither in that remark am I posing it as an ultimate truth, wisdom or knowledge nor have I provided any sort of evidence or shown how that may be truth. It's a "I think".
If it was something I knew I'd just state it and support with whatever evidence is provided to me from 'up there.'
You will be very hard pressed to support this one. Very hard pressed to find a judgement in or that I even attempted to express it as a known truth or wisdom.
If you notice in my posts I very seldom use the word "I think" .Because I very seldom ever think. I just know. I know when I'm thinking and I know when I'm knowing.
If I know something I just state it. No "I thinks" are necessary.
I very seldom ever speak of things I don't know about. When I do, they are prefaced by "I think".
The difference between thinking and knowing.
I stated it precisely the way I meant it...: "I think".
Another interesting notion: Because people can't argue or formulate a convincing argument against what I see as just 'common sense' maybe....that's a clue.
We are so used to beliefs that shatter under some soft scrutiny and arguing and debate and the pain that follows because we are 'attached' to our belief systems..... perhaps we think wisdom will just shatter away too. Any belief can break down. Truth is self evident. And ...the truth hurts. Or it can set you free. Your choice. Your responsiblity. Not anyone elses.
You think wisdom and true knowing break down as easily a belief system can be broken down?.
No. They don't. Maybe that is why you feel like I'm never wrong. Because I'm not feeding you a bunch of coddled bull**** that can easily be broken down by feeble belief rejoinders.
Maybe i'm 'never' wrong because I'm not expressing easily broken down beliefs but something a bit sturdier?
If wisdom could be broken by a few tantrums none of us would be here. A belief system is broken down in seconds, its flaws, it's failures , its contradictions, its opposing core values, it even reveals what other belief it orginated from.
The true knowing that we seek doesn't breakdown. It's not wrong. If it's wrong and can be broken down like a belief system-- what is occuring in our mind-- why bother to look for the truth at all?
The thing is ...wisdom or truth can't be argued with. It's self evident to the people who aren't blinded by beliefs . For those who want a belief system, its not so evident. In fact its simplicity is infuriating.
When the truth is present there is no cause for argument. When belief system starts mucking about then people will start feeling badly because we think our beliefs are who we are.
Beliefs can crumble, you poke at them a few times and they just fall down. There's nothing there to support them but flimsy ideas.
Truth and wisdom are pretty steadfast. Knowing one's self is stead fast and can't be broken. Thinking you are your belief system is going to break you.
That's why people seek it out , the truth of who they are, and see how valuable it is compared to easily broken belief system.
Belle
10th January 2012, 01:20
Haven't checked in for a couple of days...glad I waited until I finished catching up before posting.
It would have sounded something like...
Happy Birthday, Ulli!
Calz not posting? Noooo, I so look forward to what he has to say.
9eagle9...I thought I was the only one who gave myself a time-allowance for strong feelings...I give myself 15 minutes to feel the anger, sadness, fear, etc. then I let it go and move on to the rest of my day feeling somehow lighter.
Yay, Calz posted.
eaglespirit...so sorry about your son's passing. Somehow it just doesn't seem right that a child should die first.
Loved all the pictures posted.
This truly is a Village. It's warm and homey and filled with people I would be honored to have in my home. imo disagreements are part of the package...how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything all of the time. It's how we deal with disagreements that matters. We share each others growth, joy, sadness, lessons, questions, wisdom. Why not disagreements? Where else could any of us go and be as supported, without judgment, as we are here and now?
That said, time for some echinacea tea to help soothe the cold I caught while nursing Mom back to health.
Hope your birthday was all you hoped for, Ulli.
Calz, what can I say? Love ya.
Night, all.
meeradas
10th January 2012, 01:22
"Damn", ... still no sleep, so back to the "box".
This is for Modwiz [for obvious reason: read] + all guitar enthusiasts around here.
I saw this guy doing it live, 20 years or so ago.
I had to close my eyes for the whole gig.
Awesome. Meditation.
Enjoy.
webyGftC6wo
It's 2:22 here, as i post this
Ernie Nemeth
10th January 2012, 01:53
Can't argue with that 9eagle9:
Another interesting notion: Because people can't argue or formulate a convincing argument against what I see as just 'common sense' maybe....that's a clue.
You got it going on, gotta love it.
It makes me squirm when you're so direct. It makes me squirm for both of you because I hope you can live up to the mirror you hold and I hope the one the mirror was held up to understands its meaning - for themselves. Brave and daring, the truth wielded thus. Or is that just my perspective?
Calz, bro, no need to go.
Stay, live, learn, grow!
Your children are your vested charge
Your heart is theirs, it must discharge
This tender spot from long ago.
Eaglespirit, I like where your head is at, my friend. It was great to put a face to the words.
Meeradas, there's joy in the silence.
Ulli, Happy Birthday! Loved the picture of you in the outdoors.
Love to all,
Ernie
meeradas
10th January 2012, 02:04
joy in the silence.
Synonyms; even same tone.
------------------------------------
Now, rest of Klaus Dona (http://youtu.be/Z5DhM2OMabY)'s. That will put me to sleep, at last...
astrid
10th January 2012, 03:08
wow. I was just in a online Shamanic journey group,
and we performed a huge fire ceremony to start the
year off . Cleansing all that needed to be cleansed,
and bringing in new energies required for the year
ahead.
I'm buzzing all over it was quite something.
A seriously awesome start to my study year
and to set a positive healing intention
Bring it on.
Mike
10th January 2012, 03:32
Well now ... this is interesting. I always considered the genders to be equal ... different but equal.
I am a parent. You know what??? My 2nd child I was the one to sleep with, feed and tend to his needs. I was the one who did the bonding simply because of the hours worked with both parents working different shifts.
You know what else is funny?
He reminds me of you. He is *never* wrong. He is *never* without an answer. Remarkably bright 10 year old.
That said I have never experienced love on a more intense level in my life (including family lovers whatever). He has a heart as big as Jupiter (Leo).
A question that may be more easily managed by taking away ..filters, beliefs, thoughts,ideas, feelings etc and tackeling that from a place of what is leftover after all those have been subtracted. Or perhaps looking at it from a standpoint of what conscious is not.
Every mother has experienced for herself the difference between knowing and thinking. Mother's intuition. And maybe that is why women have kids ...lol....to have that experience of pure knowing rather than dependance on conscious thought.
I don't like to leave men out but I can't go there (not having the current experience of masculinity) and I personally think they are a different species so the same may not apply
define: "Conscious".
Aye.....there's the rub.
Okay men are a different species.
Yes of course you will go to great lengths to spin your way out of saying that ... or else spin your way into accepting it as fact.
The 9 is never wrong.
What part of we all experience lifetimes in each gender and all astro signs to experience everything am I missing here???
Absolutely the last thing in the world I wanted was to continue our conversation here (and now) but where else shall I "stick it"???
I errored in bringing the Ishtar "issue" here but that was because that thread was in meltdown at that time (due to several members). I didn't want to add to that burden.
Yes ... of course ... mirrors. Attachments. Let us let the witches burn because that is not our business. Poof. Detachment. No problemo.
The great and powerful oz cranking behind the curtain says so and so it must be.
So ... again here we are ... here and now.
What can we do to move this outside the thread???
Shall we start a poll???
Is this of interest to the village???
Are we all learning something???
... or what?
Does the village approve of my continued role of the whipping boy so we can all learn about mirrors, genders and reality as an evolved Pisces pontificates???
No prob. I am good. I should have been asleep 3 hours ago so can adapt.
Sorry villagers ... when anyone supplies parenting tips and suggests they all fall into the same box (gender specific) I doth protest.
Good night villagers and I am exhausted of explanations for why storm clouds must exist here.
I tried my best to move beyond that ...
Calz, I have had many a conversation with women who have a less than stellar opinion of men based on their experiences with them. I usually spare them the obvious observation of, it takes two to tango and if you draw flies.....? So, I let such gender bashing pass because someone is still in process and I wish to honor that. I assume that any problem I am having with women means that I need to be alone. I guess all women do not talk incessantly, very often about emotional stuff, it is just that I haven't met them yet. I see the genders as expressing very differently in the physical form. I think it is all part of the 'system', and a good one at that. I do believe there is an exalted state of gender that is part of the goal. Embodying the essence of the gender in a way that compliments rather than clashes. A true dance where push and pull create a dynamic magic and power the Universe.
this is a wonderful post, Modwiz. i had to read it a couple times.
"i guess all women do not talk incessantly, very often about emotional stuff, it is just that i haven't met them yet." LOL. hilarious, and also refreshing to see that all the great women here in the village have a flexible sense of humor;)
write4change
10th January 2012, 03:45
THE MIRROR HAS TWO FACES is one of my favorite movies starring Jeff Bridges and Barbra Streisand who also directed. It is also quite funny. And it is about the issues of love and loss from a woman's view, style over substance, and the lengths men go to avoid pain knowingly. Streisand was 54 when she made it and it is the last film she directed. The critics were brutal and most of the reviews I read were by women. Janet Margolin was so over the top. I play the film periodically and always see more layers. It is a work that will stand the older it gets. It will be seen as particularly appropos our time.
I have pursued love all my life like most of us. I have found it is always there waiting when you are finally ready enough to be still to feel it. While I pursued love I feared it for I always felt I would loose it. That is addressed in the movie. She is a professor at Columbia teaching literature and the moment we see her teaching about myths and archtypes and why they were created to explain love. She asks why do we continually pursue love when it is usually so brief and its loss so painful? And her students answer the need to propagate, DNA, etc. And she says, too intellectual for me. We all pursue love for when we have it even for a moment it feels so ****ing good we remember it all our lives.
I also always had a problem with the relatively recent idea of unconditional love. Where is unconditional love? And maybe that is why christian never worked for me. The prodigal son would never be a jewish story. There is no justice to it. The rebel son takes his share and splits and the faithful son does his duty and his reward is his father celebrating the rebel son and there will be a reduction in the faithful son's shares. etc. There is not the acknowledged joy of being faithful so much as the job of the return of the rebel.
The longer I have lived the more I have come to understand that all love is different. Not better, not equal--different. I have had many cats. When the first one died, I cried for three days. I did not have another cat for 7 years. When I was gifted with the second at a very needy time in my life, I found he was totally different and I loved him differently. Nothing of the memories of the first cat changed. They were never comparable, they were always different. Silly as it sounds, this insight changed my life with men and people in general. My first marriage legally lasted 7 years. I did not marry again for over a dozen years. The men in between were all different. Those I loved I loved differently and I was different with each of them.
Now as the circle is becoming complete in this life---I don't think about unconditional love, or monogamous love, or eternal love----I just think love. And I have found that if you keep loving and I have lost a daughter at 13 years and 10 months that almost killed me---that love will lift you beyond any pain and you can keep loving until all there is --- is love.
This is the best I can do to write of something I feel so profoundly.
9eagle9
10th January 2012, 04:17
I am laughing my ass off here.....
the thing is there's no gender bash there. I have no idea how this conclusion is being drawn save for a sacred cow got eyeballed. And I'm not even sure if the thought alarms me...or relieves me...
I didn't assign a value to it like "Men are an inferior species. " Or women are a better species. If there had been judgement in there my ass would be toast right now.
I am without the experience of being a man in this life time and I am compelled to think that we are two different species. That's all. Who ever took that as a bash created the bash in their head. I didn't even remark what sort of different species a man might be. DIFFERENT species I didn't 't say they were a lower life form.
Thus far no one has provided me any sort of compelling evidence, even just circumstancail, that what I think may true....or NOT true. They just fly into "I'm offended (again) mode."
What amazes me is that we can talk on all day about how we 'are really' aliens, and we're reallly, underneath it all, just angels in disguise.and we are starseeds, and we are reincarnated unicorns. And we are so willing to accept that anyone is 'really' a great historical figure from the past. It'a acceptable, normal even.
But to suggest that one of the other of the genders is a different species must be bashing someone..
Lol.
I am crying here. Thank you for that.
Well now ... this is interesting. I always considered the genders to be equal ... different but equal.
I am a parent. You know what??? My 2nd child I was the one to sleep with, feed and tend to his needs. I was the one who did the bonding simply because of the hours worked with both parents working different shifts.
You know what else is funny?
He reminds me of you. He is *never* wrong. He is *never* without an answer. Remarkably bright 10 year old.
That said I have never experienced love on a more intense level in my life (including family lovers whatever). He has a heart as big as Jupiter (Leo).
A question that may be more easily managed by taking away ..filters, beliefs, thoughts,ideas, feelings etc and tackeling that from a place of what is leftover after all those have been subtracted. Or perhaps looking at it from a standpoint of what conscious is not.
Every mother has experienced for herself the difference between knowing and thinking. Mother's intuition. And maybe that is why women have kids ...lol....to have that experience of pure knowing rather than dependance on conscious thought.
I don't like to leave men out but I can't go there (not having the current experience of masculinity) and I personally think they are a different species so the same may not apply
define: "Conscious".
Aye.....there's the rub.
Okay men are a different species.
Yes of course you will go to great lengths to spin your way out of saying that ... or else spin your way into accepting it as fact.
The 9 is never wrong.
What part of we all experience lifetimes in each gender and all astro signs to experience everything am I missing here???
Absolutely the last thing in the world I wanted was to continue our conversation here (and now) but where else shall I "stick it"???
I errored in bringing the Ishtar "issue" here but that was because that thread was in meltdown at that time (due to several members). I didn't want to add to that burden.
Yes ... of course ... mirrors. Attachments. Let us let the witches burn because that is not our business. Poof. Detachment. No problemo.
The great and powerful oz cranking behind the curtain says so and so it must be.
So ... again here we are ... here and now.
What can we do to move this outside the thread???
Shall we start a poll???
Is this of interest to the village???
Are we all learning something???
... or what?
Does the village approve of my continued role of the whipping boy so we can all learn about mirrors, genders and reality as an evolved Pisces pontificates???
No prob. I am good. I should have been asleep 3 hours ago so can adapt.
Sorry villagers ... when anyone supplies parenting tips and suggests they all fall into the same box (gender specific) I doth protest.
Good night villagers and I am exhausted of explanations for why storm clouds must exist here.
I tried my best to move beyond that ...
Calz, I have had many a conversation with women who have a less than stellar opinion of men based on their experiences with them. I usually spare them the obvious observation of, it takes two to tango and if you draw flies.....? So, I let such gender bashing pass because someone is still in process and I wish to honor that. I assume that any problem I am having with women means that I need to be alone. I guess all women do not talk incessantly, very often about emotional stuff, it is just that I haven't met them yet. I see the genders as expressing very differently in the physical form. I think it is all part of the 'system', and a good one at that. I do believe there is an exalted state of gender that is part of the goal. Embodying the essence of the gender in a way that compliments rather than clashes. A true dance where push and pull create a dynamic magic and power the Universe.
Mike
10th January 2012, 04:33
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
Guest
10th January 2012, 04:36
for the past few days and today have been having connective energy experiences with 2 cylindrical plasmic energy tubes stuck together full of electrical plasma energy creating a sort of vortex connected/bridging to me and space.
eaglespirit and write4change all i can say to you both is thankyou for the depth of your sharing that part of your life and where it took you with yourselves.
Love
Nora
we are all related
9eagle9
10th January 2012, 04:48
Well...we know what that horn transmuted itself into in this life time don't we? :p
However this discussion, I hope, prompt some people to revise the notion of just tossing over the rulership of the entire planet to the 'divine feminine principal."
I've warned against it time and again....
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
write4change
10th January 2012, 05:55
I have spent most of the entire day on the web from the links I found here. Forgot the dog who pooped on her new white fleecy blanket and one of her little fuzzy toys. Both now hand washed and drying. I also had to give the stinky dog a bath in the bath tube with me since she is so terrified of everything. She is progressing but will she ever be a dog? Even though a puppy she has no idea how to play and will not chase a ball etc. even in the house. She is literally afraid to extend herself.
I have done a lot of thinking about what I find on this site and how I will evolve here. I find that I come not for the answers but for the questions. And some of the questions are mind boggling despite a lifetime of conscious learning. This body has spent a long time being habituated to judgement so to compensate I spend a long time thinking about my initial reactions. This is a big improvement over a year ago when I just jumped in this site with many assumptions. The only clarity I will find here will be for me. I will have to filter the muddy water for myself and so will everyone else. Getting in someone else's water is only going to stir up more mud for both of us.
The dog is either a problem or a distraction. I thought she would be a solution. I need a dog to make my get up and walk because living in an apartment, walking the dog rain or shine leaves no excuses. So I am using the dog as a crutch to insure a self discipline I fear I lack. I also need a dog to alert me to sound which is getting more difficult for me to hear the door, the phone, etc. The problem is bonding. A puppy usually will bond easily but takes at least a year to train---there is the chewing, the pooping, the accidents, etc. But when you are all done you are friends for life. Buying a quality puppy is an option and it is usually a clean slate. A pound dog has problems because it comes from problems. It either never had a good home or lost a good home and trust, support, and understanding is an issue.
I am easily quilted into rescue and I have done it a lot with haivng owned three ranches. Except for greyhounds I have never had the real deep bonding with rescue as with raising. I don't know if it was me or the dogs. On a ranch deep bonding was not an issue. At the Texas ranch I had five dogs, all raised. Two basenjis, two sckipperkees, and one great dane. Each had their place, their job, their buddy, the ranch, the kid, and me. And I am always the alfa dog.
At the moment I pity this dog and have compassion for her. But I don't respect her as a dog. She does not act like a dog. I am not sure I can love a dog I don't respect. I think she may sense this in some way which makes her more reticent.
Okay alpha dogs--what is my next step or am I over thinking all this. I do understand and work with all my animals on a whole with knowing. I know she is smart and curious. I can always feel smart. Animals like people have a broad range of intelligence and I always choose smart because I respect that and it shows. Basenjis are hard dogs. Much more like cats. They are also problem solvers. If you say come to a basenji--they are very clear about what you want--but you can also see them rolling around with do I or don't I want to come? LOL They only bond with respect like cats and they are not into obedience just because. They are my favorite dog precisely because they are so difficult. The men in my life are also always complex and difficult. LOL
In two hours it will be midnight and I will walk the dog for the last time today and then get up at 6 for the next walk and six hours is pushing it. Sigh.
Carmody
10th January 2012, 05:59
http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/Whos_Driving_The_Dreambus/index.html
Carmody
10th January 2012, 06:09
The true knowing that we seek doesn't breakdown.
Pardon the pun, but the true knowing that we seek is exactly that: the true knowing that we seek.
hehehheheh.......
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 07:14
Pardon the pun, but the true knowing that we seek is exactly that: the true knowing that we seek.
hehehheheh.......
and its driving my Dreambus!
I am still a relatively green passenger, observing the road and periodically staring out of the window - at emptiness.
It is then I notice that I am that. Nothing. Things happen to this "separation".
The driver shouts:- wake-up!!
I get annoyed. And so the seeker appears.....
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 07:36
If I were to invite guests (dead or alive) to my last supper, Rumi would be there......
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Carmody
10th January 2012, 09:52
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ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 10:47
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing." Einstein
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Marianne
10th January 2012, 12:23
I made fresh pineapple-celery juice this morning.
Is anyone else juicing now? Would love to swap ideas and 'recipes'/combos.
I'm heading out to work in a few minutes. It's still dark out, cos there are lots of clouds/fog.
Love to the village,
Marianne
1inMany
10th January 2012, 12:30
Here and Now...I've got my coffee, and I'm in my little sharing spot. But in one week's time I've gone from rushing to the Here and Now to get my dose of comfort and wisdom and sharing my innermost thoughts to sitting looking at the computer screen almost afraid to log in. Has anyone else felt the change in the village?
ulli
10th January 2012, 12:41
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.
Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.
But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 12:42
Here and Now...I've got my coffee, and I'm in my little sharing spot. But in one week's time I've gone from rushing to the Here and Now to get my dose of comfort and wisdom and sharing my innermost thoughts to sitting looking at the computer screen almost afraid to log in. Has anyone else felt the change in the village?
Its all good.
Around most campfires, when ilk meet, deep sharing happens. Its the meeting of the good, the bad and the ugly. This is how we learn.
1inMany
10th January 2012, 12:55
Around most campfires, when ilk meet, deep sharing happens. Its the meeting of the good, the bad and the ugly. This is how we learn.
There are lots of ways we learn. Different people have different make-ups, different situations offer different opportunities. And sometimes the loving and caring atmosphere that was here a couple of weeks ago is what I need. There's plenty of the bad and the ugly in Texas for me lol, and the Here and Now was the comfort. But, the needs of the many...
ulli
10th January 2012, 13:05
Here and Now...I've got my coffee, and I'm in my little sharing spot. But in one week's time I've gone from rushing to the Here and Now to get my dose of comfort and wisdom and sharing my innermost thoughts to sitting looking at the computer screen almost afraid to log in. Has anyone else felt the change in the village?
I feel change in the Village from minute to minute and am loving it.
Always remembering that what I am perceiving is a reflection of me, and if there is no change outside of me it means I am becoming atrophied.
When two Villagers lock horns it is a sign of their fascination with one another and needs to be seen in that context.
What 9eagle9 had to say about pain was very deep and should be pondered by millions. We here are priviledged to get this wisdom fiirst hand.
At the same time what Cal shared in his defense of David Wilcock is a very understandable and endearing emotion of gratitude, which I myself felt for decades for Gurdjieff, after reading everything I could find.
Like DW Gurdjieff also shared metaphysical knowledge which he had collected elsewhere, which in turn made him a controversial figure.
Yet the awakening such knowledge brings about in a seeker will cause new heights of delight and hence lead to fresh attachmnets. To become totally detached takes decades...
The final stage is to ignore the lamp and only seek or see the light.
Or, like it says in that old Zen story: ignore the tea pot, no matter how elaborate.
Marianne
10th January 2012, 13:07
.... and the Here and Now was the comfort. But, the needs of the many...
Dear 1inMany,
It's everchanging. Take what you need, what comforts you and sustains you, and let the rest fall away.
Love,
Marianne
ulli
10th January 2012, 13:10
I made fresh pineapple-celery juice this morning.
Is anyone else juicing now? Would love to swap ideas and 'recipes'/combos.
I'm heading out to work in a few minutes. It's still dark out, cos there are lots of clouds/fog.
Love to the village,
Marianne
Sunny here and colder than ever. You are an inspiration, Marianne.
Rummaging for the juice machine NOW.
1inMany
10th January 2012, 13:19
Thanks Marianne and Ulli both-it's more my sensitive nature that is apparently the problem. I skip lots of stuff here, and I miss some awesome stuff, for 2 reasons. Sometimes I don't have time to enjoy the gems, and sometimes the energy hits me like a bowling ball lol. Mostly, though, I do try to take what I need, Marianne, and ignore the lamp and see only the light, Ulli. :)
ulli
10th January 2012, 13:26
Around most campfires, when ilk meet, deep sharing happens. Its the meeting of the good, the bad and the ugly. This is how we learn.
There are lots of ways we learn. Different people have different make-ups, different situations offer different opportunities. And sometimes the loving and caring atmosphere that was here a couple of weeks ago is what I need. There's plenty of the bad and the ugly in Texas for me lol, and the Here and Now was the comfort. But, the needs of the many...
You said you are a Cancer.
Cancer rules the mother and the baby.
Feeding and being fed.
Like day and night, the two must alternate.
But the compulsion is about the ebb and flow of nutrition.
The body parts governed by Cancer are the breasts and the stomach.
Breasts feed, stomach receives.
As long as you live these will be your principle urges. Even Cancer men are more feminine than a lot of women as they are so motherly. But they are also very demanding when they switch to the baby role, when they want to be spoon-fed.
The purpose of astrology is to shed light into these planetary urges which can then make a person aware that they have options in how to respond.
A less conscious person will give in to such urges, and a more conscious person will investigate other options, and thus begin to get control over their suffering.
This is when empowerment begins.
As a person chooses their suffering voluntarily, at that moment the world slows down in it's bombardment of painful shocks, and begins to reflect the elevated state.
This is the teaching that will liberate the masses more than any other.
Unfortunately it cannot be received until someone is so desperate for higher truth that they are crying out for it.
Like a baby. Then life will produce a new type of mother.
Calz
10th January 2012, 13:31
Well Cal, here you go ...
Well thank you for that.
Upon further *reflection* I request permission to leave the spotlight so others can experience the thrill of your tough love as well. I don't want to be greedy.
12551
I expect all that learning will take ... what ... several years of intense meditation to digest and integrate?
I did learn one thing right off (thanks to astrid serving as interpreter) and thus I won't be jumping in any more in the future to "save" your other recipients who are blessed to receive your eagle swoops. Strictly between you, them and the mods. Whatever was I thinking??? :noidea:
So in the meanwhile I am packing up my GI Joe toys and going home.
12552
Next in line??? :lever:
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meeradas
10th January 2012, 13:42
(...) and I miss some awesome stuff (...)
Just to make sure you do not miss this gem
(which would have been the next on my list for you - Carmody beat me to it):
http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/Whos_Driving_The_Dreambus/index.html
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just spilled my coffee over the keyboard...
[source: http://gawker.com/5874304/japanese-department-store-may-want-to-look-up-the-word-****ing]
Calz
10th January 2012, 13:46
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.
Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.
But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.
Oh those pesky lessons. :tsk:
ulli has her spidey sense going on ... termites vs antz??? :lol:
No sooner do you pull the lever on one and the next one jumps right in. :lever:
mwUBxsITxsI
ulli
10th January 2012, 14:02
Well Cal, here you go ...
Well thank you for that.
Upon further *reflection* I request permission to leave the spotlight so others can experience the thrill of your tough love as well. I don't want to be greedy.
12551
I expect all that learning will take ... what ... several years of intense meditation to digest and integrate?
I did learn one thing right off (thanks to astrid serving as interpreter) and thus I won't be jumping in any more in the future to "save" your other recipients who are blessed to receive your eagle swoops. Strictly between you, them and the mods. Whatever was I thinking??? :noidea:
So in the meanwhile I am packing up my GI Joe toys and going home.
12552
Next in line??? :lever:
yOJnP5RWvc0
Once a savior, always a savior, Cal. The leopard cannot change his spots.
And you are forgetting one other thing, we are living in an age where the walls are coming down...
Soon there will be nowhere to go if you are a brick.
Bring the box with your GI Joes and sit down on the rug and line them up.
Another thought about being a brick in a wall....
A lot of those obsolete bricks became the new age Visa and Master cards, being payment for flat screen TVs and Nike shoes, during last years riots in the UK, as they found their way into the shops through large panes of glass.
Pink Floyd may well have had a hand in starting that trend.
So what are we going to be, a wall being torn down, a brick being hurled?
I know you can do better than that.
Personally, my dream is to go on a trip with you, to France, Versailles, and look at the Hall of Mirrors again.
Bring the family.
I'll bring the Village.
9eagle9
10th January 2012, 14:08
Lol. It's artistic Liscense. Seriously though, it's not an exaggeration-- Doreen Virtues Indigo Child movement has brought in that paradgim of encouraging everyone to really know themselves as what they really are--which is usually uniocrns, dolphins, faeries, galakxies, and stars that went super nova.That is why life is hard for them.
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.
Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.
But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.
ulli
10th January 2012, 14:16
Oh those pesky lessons. :tsk:
ulli has her spidey sense going on ... termites vs antz??? :lol:
No sooner do you pull the lever on one and the next one jumps right in. :lever:
mwUBxsITxsI
Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!
Calz
10th January 2012, 14:18
Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!
Lesson learned ... full moon fading ... heart feels good :thumb:
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 14:24
Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/pound.gif
Ulli!!!
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9eagle9
10th January 2012, 14:26
Well we may to flip flop that around. It may not be so much you need the dog, but the dog needs you.
And as what you need....have ever thought about getting a horse again?
I have spent most of the entire day on the web from the links I found here. Forgot the dog who pooped on her new white fleecy blanket and one of her little fuzzy toys. Both now hand washed and drying. I also had to give the stinky dog a bath in the bath tube with me since she is so terrified of everything. She is progressing but will she ever be a dog? Even though a puppy she has no idea how to play and will not chase a ball etc. even in the house. She is literally afraid to extend herself.
I have done a lot of thinking about what I find on this site and how I will evolve here. I find that I come not for the answers but for the questions. And some of the questions are mind boggling despite a lifetime of conscious learning. This body has spent a long time being habituated to judgement so to compensate I spend a long time thinking about my initial reactions. This is a big improvement over a year ago when I just jumped in this site with many assumptions. The only clarity I will find here will be for me. I will have to filter the muddy water for myself and so will everyone else. Getting in someone else's water is only going to stir up more mud for both of us.
The dog is either a problem or a distraction. I thought she would be a solution. I need a dog to make my get up and walk because living in an apartment, walking the dog rain or shine leaves no excuses. So I am using the dog as a crutch to insure a self discipline I fear I lack. I also need a dog to alert me to sound which is getting more difficult for me to hear the door, the phone, etc. The problem is bonding. A puppy usually will bond easily but takes at least a year to train---there is the chewing, the pooping, the accidents, etc. But when you are all done you are friends for life. Buying a quality puppy is an option and it is usually a clean slate. A pound dog has problems because it comes from problems. It either never had a good home or lost a good home and trust, support, and understanding is an issue.
I am easily quilted into rescue and I have done it a lot with haivng owned three ranches. Except for greyhounds I have never had the real deep bonding with rescue as with raising. I don't know if it was me or the dogs. On a ranch deep bonding was not an issue. At the Texas ranch I had five dogs, all raised. Two basenjis, two sckipperkees, and one great dane. Each had their place, their job, their buddy, the ranch, the kid, and me. And I am always the alfa dog.
At the moment I pity this dog and have compassion for her. But I don't respect her as a dog. She does not act like a dog. I am not sure I can love a dog I don't respect. I think she may sense this in some way which makes her more reticent.
Okay alpha dogs--what is my next step or am I over thinking all this. I do understand and work with all my animals on a whole with knowing. I know she is smart and curious. I can always feel smart. Animals like people have a broad range of intelligence and I always choose smart because I respect that and it shows. Basenjis are hard dogs. Much more like cats. They are also problem solvers. If you say come to a basenji--they are very clear about what you want--but you can also see them rolling around with do I or don't I want to come? LOL They only bond with respect like cats and they are not into obedience just because. They are my favorite dog precisely because they are so difficult. The men in my life are also always complex and difficult. LOL
In two hours it will be midnight and I will walk the dog for the last time today and then get up at 6 for the next walk and six hours is pushing it. Sigh.
eaglespirit
10th January 2012, 14:29
THE MIRROR HAS TWO FACES is one of my favorite movies starring Jeff Bridges and Barbra Streisand who also directed. It is also quite funny. And it is about the issues of love and loss from a woman's view, style over substance, and the lengths men go to avoid pain knowingly. Streisand was 54 when she made it and it is the last film she directed. The critics were brutal and most of the reviews I read were by women. Janet Margolin was so over the top. I play the film periodically and always see more layers. It is a work that will stand the older it gets. It will be seen as particularly appropos our time.
I have pursued love all my life like most of us. I have found it is always there waiting when you are finally ready enough to be still to feel it. While I pursued love I feared it for I always felt I would loose it. That is addressed in the movie. She is a professor at Columbia teaching literature and the moment we see her teaching about myths and archtypes and why they were created to explain love. She asks why do we continually pursue love when it is usually so brief and its loss so painful? And her students answer the need to propagate, DNA, etc. And she says, too intellectual for me. We all pursue love for when we have it even for a moment it feels so ****ing good we remember it all our lives.
I also always had a problem with the relatively recent idea of unconditional love. Where is unconditional love? And maybe that is why christian never worked for me. The prodigal son would never be a jewish story. There is no justice to it. The rebel son takes his share and splits and the faithful son does his duty and his reward is his father celebrating the rebel son and there will be a reduction in the faithful son's shares. etc. There is not the acknowledged joy of being faithful so much as the job of the return of the rebel.
The longer I have lived the more I have come to understand that all love is different. Not better, not equal--different. I have had many cats. When the first one died, I cried for three days. I did not have another cat for 7 years. When I was gifted with the second at a very needy time in my life, I found he was totally different and I loved him differently. Nothing of the memories of the first cat changed. They were never comparable, they were always different. Silly as it sounds, this insight changed my life with men and people in general. My first marriage legally lasted 7 years. I did not marry again for over a dozen years. The men in between were all different. Those I loved I loved differently and I was different with each of them.
Now as the circle is becoming complete in this life---I don't think about unconditional love, or monogamous love, or eternal love----I just think love. And I have found that if you keep loving and I have lost a daughter at 13 years and 10 months that almost killed me---that love will lift you beyond any pain and you can keep loving until all there is --- is love.
This is the best I can do to write of something I feel so profoundly.
Poignant Sharing, Thank You Writechange...the deeper we go with Love the higher the soaring.
Un-conditional Love simply means to me that we do not set sights or conditions...allowing without judgement...we emote and attract that rhythm of pure ebb and flow that seems to find its way around the world somehow...that "somehow" increasing in validity now more than ever.
My Heart goes out to You on Your Daughter's passing...that timestopper in our lives is about the toughest one. Getting to the point of resolve can be an endless endeavor.
I was granted a gift and will never be the same...Danny's voice being with me for 2 days was so surrealistically real that the impact of joy and sorrow became a new life energy and an immortality on hand awakening.
Having a 7 year old Grandson with the same name and His Mother(1 month pregnant at the time of my Son's passing and no one knew but them), being the epitome of nurturing with wisdom, brings humility and gratitude and fortitude to new heights.
Our Children are with Us...and it is profound and unconditional and allows Us to choose to pass this on in such a way that just being there to console Others with similar experiences of traumatic loss raises the energy of Love to the highest bar in this place called Mother Earth.
9eagle9
10th January 2012, 14:32
And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this. Aries rules the head and intellect and of course the lock horns...Although brash and hot headed it does allow my floormat Pisces side to bring intuition and not back down from it because someone has been served bread instead of cupcakes.
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.
Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.
But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 14:36
And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this.
People? I didnt even know...... ;)
I do now though, and placed it delicately on my library shelf
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9eagle9
10th January 2012, 14:38
Delicately. You don't want to drop that one.
Calz
10th January 2012, 14:41
And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this. Aries rules the head and intellect and of course the lock horns...Although brash and hot headed it does allow my floormat Pisces side to bring intuition and not back down from it because someone has been served bread instead of cupcakes.
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.
Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.
But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.
I didn't forget ... I never knew ... never saw your chart.
Poll?
*FAST* villagers (no cheating ulli) ... what's my rising sun sign????
tick ... tick ... tick ...
Time's Up
EDw4OiuKeU8
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 14:49
*FAST* villagers (no cheating ulli) ... what's my rising sun sign????
http://gavsswtorguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/planet_alderaan.jpg
ulli
10th January 2012, 14:50
Now Now, eagle9,
we're not allowing assumptions in the Here and Now. (and that's the royal WE)
Statements ought to stick to specifics. Then all is well.
"...AND PEOPLE ALWAYS FORGET..."
a) "always" does not exist, other than in the imagination
b) WHO forgot? Cal? Me? The Village?
In my case, no, I did not forget..
in fact, I made extra allowances because of it.
Just as I made extra allowances for Cal's Mars/Moon conjunction which amounts to a similar Aries factor.
Knowing something about another helps me make allowances, as I can see better where they are coming from.
It helps control my tendency to be paranoid. It helps me to keep the love and kindness flowing.
Just for the record, everyone, so there's no mistake:
The Here and Now thread is about wholeness, not peace.
The Here and Now thread is about wholeness, not war.
And that wholeness is arrived at via specifics.
And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this. Aries rules the head and intellect and of course the lock horns...Although brash and hot headed it does allow my floormat Pisces side to bring intuition and not back down from it because someone has been served bread instead of cupcakes.
i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p
I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.
Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.
But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.
Calz
10th January 2012, 14:59
*FAST* villagers (no cheating ulli) ... what's my rising sun sign????
http://gavsswtorguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/planet_alderaan.jpg
HOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKK :horn:
Ooooh sorry Viral.
Unless, of course, you have ascended into the 5th dimension whereas the whole playing field changes.
Thanks for playing.
ulli ... tell our contestant what she's won ... :pop2:
Calz
10th January 2012, 15:02
And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this.
People? I didnt even know...... ;)
I do now though, and placed it delicately on my library shelf
.
http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/kumbaya-smiley.gif?1292867630
Really?
Degree of orb???
Implied she was referring to her Sun sign ... but do we really know??? Could have been talking about the man on her Moon?
ViralSpiral
10th January 2012, 15:05
Could have been talking about the man on her Moon?
She has one? Awwwwwwwwwww. And me?
Siriusly, I wished I had better insight. For allowances.....
Just for the record, everyone, so there's no mistake:
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/7/21/750cbf0b-d448-4c0d-aaab-a527b6d58ea2.jpg
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