Here and Now...What's Happening?

[ulli]

*FAST* villagers (no cheating ulli) ... what's my rising sun sign????




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HOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKK :horn:

Ooooh sorry Viral.

Unless, of course, you have ascended into the 5th dimension whereas the whole playing field changes.

Thanks for playing.

ulli ... tell our contestant what she's won ... :pop2:


Sorry, I got distracted for a moment.
Gonna tell everyone that your Ascendant is Leo.
But that Leo Royal Palace is overshadowed by planet Pluto, which was rising in the first house, just below the horizon, and bringing a powerful Scorpio Mars
combo into the mix.
Pluto rising means that even eagle9's Aries rising will have to take a back seat.
Like you I also have Pluto in Leo, and also in the first house (first house equals Aries, for those who don't know much about astrological houses)
but my Pluto is a bit further away from the Ascendant, hence my obsessive/compulsiveness is a fraction of a degree cooler than yours.

I must admit I had forgotten you had that factor. I will now have to take stock of my arsenal and possibly stock up with some more nuclear devices.
And not just pink atomizers.
I did remember that you had the Moon conjunct Mars, but that is peanuts compared with that powerhouse of an Ascendant.
Holy Shi'ite.

[Black Panther]

Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!

Lesson learned ... full moon fading ... heart feels good :thumb:

It looks like you guys having a nice party here :biggrin:
You even have a campfire. Can I sing along ?
I am already crawling in the bush for some time :p

The full moon is fading, but it felt really strong this afternoon.
It's like I'm more susceptible to it.

[Calz]

Could have been talking about the man on her Moon?

She has one? Awwwwwwwwwww. And me?
Siriusly, I wished I had better insight. For allowances.....

Sidiously ... with a little change of spelling you would have been referring the star system Sid suggested some of the nazis headed off to ...

:ufo:

12557

(bottom right)

(and don't call me surely ...)


12556

[ViralSpiral]

Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!

Lesson learned ... full moon fading ... heart feels good :thumb:

It looks like you guys having a nice party here :biggrin:
You even have a campfire. Can I sing along ?
I am already crawling in the bush for some time :p

The full moon is fading, but it felt really strong this afternoon.
It's like I'm more susceptible to it.



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[Calz]

Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!

Lesson learned ... full moon fading ... heart feels good :thumb:

It looks like you guys having a nice party here :biggrin:
You even have a campfire. Can I sing along ?
I am already crawling in the bush for some time :p

The full moon is fading, but it felt really strong this afternoon.
It's like I'm more susceptible to it.

Hey BP,

C'mon down ... take your shoes off.

Put a marshmellow on your big toe.

Beats the heck out of speculating on WW3 :shocked:

[Calz]

Holy Shi'ite.

Actually I am in a 12 step program recovering from that New Age Religion we have seen completely dismissed lately.

Who knew???

[ulli]

Been meaning to tell you:
you look even more handsome when you are angry!!

Lesson learned ... full moon fading ... heart feels good :thumb:

It looks like you guys having a nice party here :biggrin:
You even have a campfire. Can I sing along ?
I am already crawling in the bush for some time :p

The full moon is fading, but it felt really strong this afternoon.
It's like I'm more susceptible to it.

Before you can sing along there has to be an audition:
starting now
We are the champions, we are the champions we are the champions
OF THE WORLD
:note:
:note:

[ulli]

Could have been talking about the man on her Moon?

She has one? Awwwwwwwwwww. And me?
Siriusly, I wished I had better insight. For allowances.....

Sidiously ... with a little change of spelling you would have been referring the star system Sid suggested some of the nazis headed off to ...

:ufo:

12557

(bottom right)

(and don't call me surely ...)


12556

Oh, and there was me staring at the ant's ass underneath Ant-Ares.
The tiniest black hole in the universe.

[ulli]

Holy Shi'ite.

Actually I am in a 12 step program recovering from that New Age Religion we have seen completely dismissed lately.

Who knew???

Save yourself time and effort.
Leave after step three.
Drop out.
With that Pluto of yours, who needs religion, or twelve step programs, for that matter?

2oHOv9p9dHQ

[Calz]

Holy Shi'ite.

Actually I am in a 12 step program recovering from that New Age Religion we have seen completely dismissed lately.

Who knew???

Save yourself time and effort.
Leave after step three.
Drop out.
With that Pluto of yours, who needs religion, or twelve step programs, for that matter?

2oHOv9p9dHQ

Holy Shi'ite ... you would have to conjur up one of my two all time movie favorites (other LoTR).


12559

[Ernie Nemeth]

With Sag rising, I thought I'd be more single-minded, see a project through, stay on target, keep focused. Is that not so?

[Belle]

Around most campfires, when ilk meet, deep sharing happens. Its the meeting of the good, the bad and the ugly. This is how we learn.

There are lots of ways we learn. Different people have different make-ups, different situations offer different opportunities. And sometimes the loving and caring atmosphere that was here a couple of weeks ago is what I need. There's plenty of the bad and the ugly in Texas for me lol, and the Here and Now was the comfort. But, the needs of the many...


Campfires and deep sharing in the company of Villagers can emit strong energy as easily as a calm peacefulness, sincere emotion as easily as playfulness.

imo the 'loving and caring atmosphere that was here a couple of weeks ago' is still here. Sometimes we are the receivers of the comfort and sometimes we are the givers of comfort...and sometimes we are needed to hold space for calm in the middle of a storm. The skies will clear...the sun will return...we will look for the rainbow and marvel at what the wind and rain has wrought...cleared the deadwood and watered the garden, more beautiful than before.

[ulli]

With Sag rising, I thought I'd be more single-minded, see a project through, stay on target, keep focused. Is that not so?

Sadge is not about focus. They are about expansion, freedom, dropping everything and going on a trip, traveling light, if possible.
Seeing a project through is more about Capricorn, although they might need a Sadge to get them started. Better still, an Aries with a hot iron poker.
Sadges hate commitment, hate being tied down.

[9eagle9]

No it's not a place of war, I don't think many have seen me when I'm at war.

It's suffices that not handing out a bunch of cadswallop to people is 'war like' and mean all on it's own. I don't have to expend any extra effort in being mean or war like.

Truthfully if my direct way speaking bother's people, I have no idea how they would cope if I got pissed and went for the jugular. I have no idea if I ruffle people up not candy assing them, how they ware going to cope with future events. I really don't know.

If Old Eagle sends folks into a dither what will full disclosure do? Alien landings. When dimensions shift. If I am yanking people's crank that badly... how are they going to cope with things they've never expereinced before. If they want to be beguiled how they are going to cope with matrix traps that based only in beguilment.

I don't know how they will cope when this world starts transforming itself into a place of strength. They want the world to become that place of strength without them lifting a finger to help it along. The world will just leave them behind. Any wonder why Delores Cannon speaks about a divided earth.

All these people want to go out there to other dimensions and how will they cope there when there is so much beguiling fourth dimensional yurk. You have to learn how to handle yourself here on this plane of existence before you go mucking about there. They have guru that will pat them on the head and tell them they have third eye block when that happens, when they can't traverse multi dimenstional pathways. Instead of realizing there's a smarter part of their selves that is saving them from themselves.

There is swathes of information about the matrix traps 'out there' beyond the physical world. They all say the same thing. Handle yourself here first. Demonstrate your willingness here , first. If we can't manuveur them here, how do they expect to go there and come back unscathed? If I want to be outthere--I have to handle myself here. If can't cope with a few humans--however could I cope with the horros I see attached to people's minds. Adults have a choice. We inhabit the earth with some that don't. They are defenseless.

Observing children whose parents have bound them up in this 4dimensional yurk to where they are nothing but attached feeders for vampiric energies of their parents and whatever dark **** they working with. And watching those children still able to maintain some sort of resilence when they are being fed on daily for years in and years out....do you really think that I can muster much sympathy for grown men running around crying about how hurt they are over David Wilcocks 'death' threat. Those children are lunch for death everyday. Where's they're sympathy?

Forgive me please. I can't. Those don't get air time, or radio interviews, or the sympathy of thousands.

If Cal wants to get a rise out of me or push my buttons he's going to have to find MY wounds. That requires a certain amount of self awareness to know where someone elses wounds are. I don't have the same wounds as he does. So stabbing at me from his scabby place does nothing, as demonstrated, but hurt himself. After observing what I and many have , in the dark places of our Matrix and compare the suffering of those kids to Cal's suffering over David Wilcock. There's no comparison. Those children will eagerly accept any help any tool that is offered.

What bother's me is people being deliberately ingenous and all wide eyed wounded innocent doe eyes here in ..2012. Things are changing and rapidly and people are wailing that the constructs they put their faith in are breaking down. Hello? We have known for decades about this. It's supposed to be a year of changes , or breakdown, so when things change people get in a wad about it. We thought things were just going change without...changing? That the universe was just going to change things around us without interrupting anything. Just going to accomadate us and our 'hurts'. We have to accomadate to the changes occuring, integrate with them, not expect that they will accomodate us.

You are going to run out of people to blame.

So while people weep and cry all around me that I 'm 'mean' I don't have the luxury of gettting pissed. Because it hurts people when I do. It hurts me. It's keeps me from doing something that I could actually do to help things along.

Wanna know what else bothers me. That everyone has the luxury of dragging everyone through their scabs...AGAIN. Everyone has the luxury of getting all emotional and cradling their sacred cows but I can't speak forthrightly without setting the sacred cows to stampede. What kind of people am I inhabiting this earth with?

Forget men being a different species, maybe I AM!

Know thyself . I know what the dark side of the Aries and Pisces cusp can do. Disemboweling. I have done it in the past --it causes conflict to go for the jugular of some person because they remind me of my mother. That's MY ****, I and only I can sort that out. I see the insanity of that...now. A decade ago I didn't. Someone had to directly and firmly speak to me about it, and then gave me the tools to heal my ****. So then I had a choice, keep blaming the person who had poor luck to remind of my mother or ..fix my ****.

Not bull****ting someone is not insulting them. In five minutes I can start codswaddling people, emotional gooey oooey crap. But if I did they'd 1) insulted 2) me leading by the noise.

Do not keep asking me to be your abuser! The victim always needs an abuser and when they don't find one...they start feeling like an ass when they find their abuser is them.

Is that what are reduced to, if we don't bull**** them then it's an insult . And then we watch them run around be-crying how our media and government bull****s them. This is crazy making.

People are asking to be 'elevated' and ascend but keep wanting to go into this please of "baby me mode. I don't want it to be hurt. "

Late news. We're all hurt, we're all wounded. I keep saying this because if you take care of your **** what is happening out in the world will no longer hurt you, will no longer wound you, will not effect you.

Self integration hurts. Doing anything worthwhile to transform into something better than what you thought you were is painful but it changes the world around you. Why Gandi said, The change come from within. The world cannot keep accomadatining each others wounds. We just stay in a hospital then, slicing up with scalpels and then patching up the wounds. Its the story Cathbad and Nessa, its the story Cuchulainn and Ferdiad , fighting all day, patching wounds --never addressing them.

The closing scenes in Lord of Rings shows Merri, Pippin, Samwise and Frodo returning to the snugly oblivious village of Hobbiton after their trials at war....They saved the shire!

Upon their return the first thing that happened is ...the Shire glared at them.

.

[Calz]

With Sag rising, I thought I'd be more single-minded, see a project through, stay on target, keep focused. Is that not so?

Sadge is not about focus. They are about expansion, freedom, dropping everything and going on a trip, traveling light, if possible.
Seeing a project through is more about Capricorn, although they might need a Sadge to get them started. Better still, an Aries with a hot iron poker.

Sadges hate commitment, hate being tied down.

Married to Sag for 16 years now so ... hmmm ... guess my "ropes" are mighty strong :lol:

Stronger every year :noidea: (not the ropes ... the love)

Don't forget the ***LOVE*** to travel (another way of wording hatred for being tied down).

[ulli]

@9eagle9

...talking of people wanting to be elevated:
someone just sent me this with a birthday card...image of the crane operator on top of the tallest building in the world, in Dubai.
I wonder what they were insinuating?
Should I start worrying?
Did I ever tell them I had vertigo?

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[write4change]

Breakfast with Ulli,

Staggered up in time for no accidents in the house before the walk. Kimba has learned that she gets to go back to the house as soon as she does her duty. Thus, she is now prompt and the walk is about 15 feet. She needs me. I guess that was always a consideration because she is so different that no one has fostered her in six months. I am not sure about this rescue--how profit making they are. They talk all the time about being understaffed. My big question that I have not voiced is why with so many homeless dogs in this country are we flying in foreign dogs. What is it about Americans that taking care of our own is not as up lifting as taking care of the exotic. And Oprah is a fine example of that. Once she said that Americans have no gratitude only entitlement. Is that thought something we manifest everywhere.

Coming back in the house I make my tea and start Uli in the morning. Everything about that has worked for me in the last week. I thanked a lot of people this morning with no results. I kept getting a weird triangle on the screen. Turns out I was disconnected because the cat decided to sleep on the roter?

When I move back to Texas, I will get into carriage horses this time. I am too old to fall off a horse any more. And I may need like in the old days horses to plow and pull as much as transportation. 9eagle I loved your explanation of falling I wished I had thought of it. For my daughter it was not an issue because she started gymnastics at two. No one I know thinks of cross training with jumpers as gymnastics but balance beam work and dismounting gave my daughter a sense of her body and timing none of the others had. When she started riding and jumping at 11, she had the timing and when her balance came really off she would do a running dismount. At a major horse show, and she had not been competing 4 months. Someone cut her stirrups. After the second jump, they fell off. She pulled him up and gathered herself and completed the round without faults with no stirrups. She got a standing ovation. All that did was take her riding knowledge and confidence up another notch. My daughter Maxx was an incredibile rider. Just before she died, she was the youngest jumper on the youngest horse and without even considering campaigning yet--she ranked 18 in the entire state of Texas. As long as she was alive, I stayed on the ground. I did not want to compete with her in anyway. After she died, I kept her horses and her two Picasso and Mighty Max were both state champions in California. In fact I hold the amateur jumper title for the years 97,98,99, 2000. I don't know how long someone will take to break that record at the Pacific Coast Horse Association. Before me, two consecutive years was the most ever done.

[9eagle9]

You forgot. Or perhaps my Pisces side just demonstrated your point better.

But I do know that Astrology just brings forward the strengths and weaknesses of any composited person so we can bring our strengths forward and work on our challenges. I'v enever viewed it as an excuse for who I am, or my shortcomings. It shows plenty of them but one knows they can be worked on. healed. It's not who i am, but its what I can bring forward or fix in myself.

Fixing one's self is not hot air. The new age media of people like Doreen Virtue is not hot air. It exists. It exists for anyone who pulls her books off the shelves and reads them.

And the Aries in me will go the mat on that one. My Aries is tempered by Pisces otherwise things WOULD turn into a blood bath.



Now Now, eagle9,
we're not allowing assumptions in the Here and Now. (and that's the royal WE)
Statements ought to stick to specifics. Then all is well.

"...AND PEOPLE ALWAYS FORGET..."

a) "always" does not exist, other than in the imagination
b) WHO forgot? Cal? Me? The Village?

In my case, no, I did not forget..
in fact, I made extra allowances because of it.
Just as I made extra allowances for Cal's Mars/Moon conjunction which amounts to a similar Aries factor.
Knowing something about another helps me make allowances, as I can see better where they are coming from.
It helps control my tendency to be paranoid. It helps me to keep the love and kindness flowing.

Just for the record, everyone, so there's no mistake:

The Here and Now thread is about wholeness, not peace.
The Here and Now thread is about wholeness, not war.

And that wholeness is arrived at via specifics.






And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this. Aries rules the head and intellect and of course the lock horns...Although brash and hot headed it does allow my floormat Pisces side to bring intuition and not back down from it because someone has been served bread instead of cupcakes.




i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

[Calz]

You forgot.


"You" in reference to whom???

Sorry ... my mind is still a bit fuzzy after all those swoops.


I put up my chart (data) for all to see.

Would love to see what such an uber advanced soul as yourself came into the rock with ...

Or is that a one way mirror???

[ViralSpiral]

@9eagle9

...talking of people wanting to be elevated:
someone just sent me this with a birthday card...image of the crane operator on top of the tallest building in the world, in Dubai.
I wonder what they were insinuating?
Should I start worrying?
Did I ever tell them I had vertigo?

http://artkerala.net/files/images/Burj-Dubai_0.preview.jpg


oh my giddy aunt!!
that's a LOT of people for hijackers with box-cutters!!!!!

[Mike]

i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

i must say i thought she was saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently not. a unicorn? well, there are worse things one could have derived from, termites for example(i will not ask you if you are being sarcastic because i don't think i want to know the answer to that;))

[9eagle9]

I don't like heights either...but I do love the hay loft.



@9eagle9

...talking of people wanting to be elevated:
someone just sent me this with a birthday card...image of the crane operator on top of the tallest building in the world, in Dubai.
I wonder what they were insinuating?
Should I start worrying?
Did I ever tell them I had vertigo?

http://artkerala.net/files/images/Burj-Dubai_0.preview.jpg

[ViralSpiral]

UUUULLLLIIIIIIIIIII !!!


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[ViralSpiral]

FRED! Hello!!!

[9eagle9]

Ulli, that's whose post I quoted. Or maybe she didn't.

Regardless....

Posting my astrology chart would probably lead to more mayhem and bad feelings .



You forgot.


"You" in reference to whom???

Sorry ... my mind is still a bit fuzzy after all those swoops.


I put up my chart (data) for all to see.

Would love to see what such an uber advanced soul as yourself came into the rock with ...

Or is that a one way mirror???

[Calz]

No it's not a place of war, I don't think many have seen me when I'm at war.




Actually some have.

Not me ... naive Nebraska family guy ... but due to this little family spat I was brought up to speed. Tough love ... what are ya gonna do???

I want no war. You *do* know that right???

The village wants no war.

I have given my best Libra foot forward to bring frolic back into this scenario.

No need for a 5000 word post ... less is more.

Let us have peace in the village.

We admire and appreciate your wisdom 9 ... okay. Sidiously.

Have a margarita on (your) house :haha: :washing:

[Black Panther]

Hey BP,

C'mon down ... take your shoes off.

Put a marshmellow on your big toe.

Beats the heck out of speculating on WW3 :shocked:

I've taken my shoes off, but I've lost my big toe nail again
so I'll eat the marshmellow right away :biggrin:

I don't want to speculate too much about WW3 eventhough
I'm interested in what is happening in Iran. I don't think there is
a way back. After a year of investigating all kind of stuff
(a lot of negative things off course) I don't want to give
too much attention to the negative subjects anymore.




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If you take away the 'smile' HELL is the only thing left :p

[ulli]

i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

i must say i thought she was saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently not. a unicorn? well, there are worse things one could have derived from, termites for example(i will not ask you if you are being sarcastic because i don't think i want to know the answer to that;))


What if the answer is no?
I can't remember the last time I was being sarcastic, although I had plenty of that to dish out when I was younger.
All gender comments from me are based on strictly scientific observations backed up by statistics.

[meeradas]

Or is that a one way mirror???

No, it's that kind of:
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[Calz]

I've taken my shoes off, but I've lost my big toe nail again
so I'll eat the marshmellow right away :biggrin:




Bugger ... so *that* is why the villagers were passing around a mellow and I bit right into it :doh:

[Mike]

FRED! Hello!!!

hey Fred, we all know you still have that blue and white Avalon uniform hanging in your closet. i'd venture that you haven't tossed it yet.

throw that thing on and join the party, mate.;)

[meeradas]

If you take away the 'smile' HELL is the only thing left :p

which of course means "bright" in german. :biggrin1:

[Lisab]

Holy Shi'ite.

Actually I am in a 12 step program recovering from that New Age Religion we have seen completely dismissed lately.
12 steps forward, 12 steps backwards, but Here and Now loooookin' good!!

Who knew???
12 steps forward, 12 steps backwards but Here and Now looookin' good!

[ulli]

No it's not a place of war, I don't think many have seen me when I'm at war.




Actually some have.

Not me ... naive Nebraska family guy ... but due to this little family spat I was brought up to speed. Tough love ... what are ya gonna do???

I want no war. You *do* know that right???

The village wants no war.

I have given my best Libra foot forward to bring frolic back into this scenario.

No need for a 5000 word post ... less is more.

Let us have peace in the village.

We admire and appreciate your wisdom 9 ... okay. Sidiously.

Have a margarita on (your) house :haha: :washing:

Great post there, Calz...keep 'em coming.

[9eagle9]

It could be percieved as exaggeration. It's really not such trains of thought are very established in New Age Thought and Media.Its more like absurdity though, so yes a tongue in cheek remark..




i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

i must say i thought she was saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently not. a unicorn? well, there are worse things one could have derived from, termites for example(i will not ask you if you are being sarcastic because i don't think i want to know the answer to that;))

[ViralSpiral]

FRED! Hello!!!

hey Fred, we all know you still have that blue and white Avalon uniform hanging in your closet. i'd venture that you haven't tossed it yet.

throw that thing on and join the party, mate.;)


Yessssss!!!!!


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[Mike]

i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

i must say i thought she was saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently not. a unicorn? well, there are worse things one could have derived from, termites for example(i will not ask you if you are being sarcastic because i don't think i want to know the answer to that;))


What if the answer is no?
I can't remember the last time I was being sarcastic, although I had plenty of that to dish out when I was younger.
All gender comments from me are based on strictly scientific observations backed up by statistics.


watch out, i may challenge you to provide said scientific evidence ulli!:fencing:

from my vast research, and this is simply indisputable, men come from flying pigs. save yourself the internet search, as i've provided you with my unequivocal data right in this very post: :flypig:

[9eagle9]

Who said "Hell is other people. "

Stephen King described Hell as : Repetition. Like ground hogs day.

I wonder if was referring to reincarnation.

[ulli]

FRED! Hello!!!

hey Fred, we all know you still have that blue and white Avalon uniform hanging in your closet. i'd venture that you haven't tossed it yet.

throw that thing on and join the party, mate.;)

yeah, come on in, Fred!!
You owe me an apology for rejecting my apology...
so here and now is your chance.

[meeradas]

I've taken my shoes off, but I've lost my big toe nail again
so I'll eat the marshmellow right away :biggrin:




Bugger ... so *that* is why the villagers were passing around a mellow and I bit right into it :doh:

hEmP1t9F55s

"Mind" the chorus line

[Calz]

Ulli, that's whose post I quoted. Or maybe she didn't.

Regardless....

Posting my astrology chart would probably lead to more mayhem and bad feelings .



You forgot.


"You" in reference to whom???

Sorry ... my mind is still a bit fuzzy after all those swoops.


I put up my chart (data) for all to see.

Would love to see what such an uber advanced soul as yourself came into the rock with ...

Or is that a one way mirror???

9 you were one of my first "friends" here ... and I don't mean that in respect to a mouse click.

Tough love ... this is *me* trying to remind you that I do, in fact, love you.

Hey I have fights on (rare) occasion with my wife. You (I think) said you were divorced? I love my wife more than ever. You and I as friends can certainly have disagreements and still respect each other. You don't need to "reveal" your chart if it makes you uncomfortable. For astrologers (me only a hobbiest) it helps to understand people. As Carmody suggests not a good idea to plop it out in public as there are some who will take advantage of it.

Not me ... not the village.

You are most welcome here provided we all share the peace and love of the village.

Not hard to understand. Doesn't take 5000 word post to convey.

Right???

:wub:

[Calz]

FRED! Hello!!!

hey Fred, we all know you still have that blue and white Avalon uniform hanging in your closet. i'd venture that you haven't tossed it yet.

throw that thing on and join the party, mate.;)

yeah, come on in, Fred!!
You owe me an apology for rejecting my apology...
so here and now is your chance.

Well ... Libra mediator hat on ... I tried to terminate my membership at Nexus and ... whoa ... it isn't allowed???

Whatever.

More to the point ... I can bring a message from Fred S. here as I have great respect for him and I want all wounds (regardless of how large or small) to be healed.

We are one.

(or related I guess channeling Nora) :)

[9eagle9]

I knew it! I knew you guys were a different species.

I was consdiering the termite part after reflecting on the way an ex of mine could eat five Big Mac's in one sitting ..

But..why did you keep the pig part and get rid of the flying part?

It would be fun to have a flying man in the house...if they were house trained.

Wait scratch the idea...if you can't put the toilet seat down on while standing chances are flying around will not make it easier for you.????

:confused:






i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

i must say i thought she was saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently not. a unicorn? well, there are worse things one could have derived from, termites for example(i will not ask you if you are being sarcastic because i don't think i want to know the answer to that;))


What if the answer is no?
I can't remember the last time I was being sarcastic, although I had plenty of that to dish out when I was younger.
All gender comments from me are based on strictly scientific observations backed up by statistics.


watch out, i may challenge you to provide said scientific evidence ulli!:fencing:

from my vast research, and this is simply indisputable, men come from flying pigs. save yourself the internet search, as i've provided you with my unequivocal data right in this very post: :flypig:

[ViralSpiral]

If you take away the 'smile' HELL is the only thing left :p

which of course means "bright" in german. :biggrin1:

Hehe. And for the always-look-on-the-bright-side-of-life moment, I am that.


German

*sigh*

[meeradas]

an ex of mine could eat five Big Mac's in one sitting ..

whoa

sounds like real "satsang" :loco:

[violently chuckling]

[eaglespirit]

I LOVE Heights !!!

http://artkerala.net/files/images/Burj-Dubai_0.preview.jpg

[1inMany]

Here and Now...:peep: Went to see a new place yesterday. It feels right, and is happening quite smoothly. Taking the hint & going with it. The countryside scenery is breathtaking for me, and hopefully the wide open space will allow me to breathe. I will have fruit trees, pears and apples, so I will want to learn everything I can about helping them to produce yummies without hurting any critters. The lady that is selling the place says in 5 years she has only seen 2 snakes! She also said we need a yard dog to chase off the raccoons and possums. After I stop laughing, I ponder the term "yard dog." Having a bit of trouble with that one lol. I'm such a sucker that I couldn't leave a dog outside 24/7...especially when the temps range from about 25F-100F depending on the season. And, though I'm a softie, I could not imagine letting a dog in the house after he's been out frolicking all day...mud & rolling around in poo comes to mind. A dog in the house is awesome, so loving...but I have to get one that doesn't shed and that usually rules out the dogs whose bark would scare off mother nature herself lol. More pondering on this one...And the lady also reports that the cat(s) we saw (and smelled...and that made my eyes swell up and tears run down my face) are not hers exactly. They adopted her. New visualization: I see the woman being so attached that she cannot bear to leave it/them behind!!!!!

This will be a slice of heaven for me. After second guessing myself ridiculously, I remembered that if this doesn't work out...um, hello...I'll deal with it then. And, for heaven's sake, my feet will not be buried in concrete and the commitment to stay there not written in blood. Talked to a few of the townsfolk, helped me recall some of my earlier experiences in small towns. Boy, things sure are gonna change lol. I'm so excited I want to go pack now.

Much Love,

[Calz]

But..why did you keep the pig part and get rid of the flying part?




We have the power ...


12561

[Lisab]

Sorry to charge in here but have you seen Onyxknights thread asking on the whereabouts of Omni, I know Viral has. He may need the villagers help right now. Positive thoughts for Omni please.

[Calz]

I LOVE Heights !!!

http://artkerala.net/files/images/Burj-Dubai_0.preview.jpg

Check out the new Mission Impossible flick (if you can deflect the mind control and I know you can).

This building figures prominently.

[meeradas]

I'm so excited I want to go pack now.

G r e a t !

[eaglespirit]

WoooooHooooooo 1inMany !!!

[9eagle9]

Carmody is right. But...It wouldn't make me uncomfortable Cal I know very well the challenges I've had to overcome. Very deeply wounded, very abusive home life, lots of mental insanity in my early life, ess , ego-tism, destruction, vengefulness, disconnected from reality, hyper critical , perfectionst, lost in idealism, withdrawn, aloof. I've shared a lot of those personal experiences with the internal struggle with people. I've had people get in a wad for sharing those experienes and I have people who think I don't share that sort of information because it makes me uncomfortable.

It causes conflict. Everyone wants to hear about it and no one wants to hear about it.

And that's great that my chart shows all those challenges but when that chart doesn't support the notion that I'm mean, warlike, tough love., and a Neptuna ..what will we do then?



Ulli, that's whose post I quoted. Or maybe she didn't.

Regardless....

Posting my astrology chart would probably lead to more mayhem and bad feelings .



You forgot.


"You" in reference to whom???

Sorry ... my mind is still a bit fuzzy after all those swoops.


I put up my chart (data) for all to see.

Would love to see what such an uber advanced soul as yourself came into the rock with ...

Or is that a one way mirror???

9 you were one of my first "friends" here ... and I don't mean that in respect to a mouse click.

Tough love ... this is *me* trying to remind you that I do, in fact, love you.

Hey I have fights on (rare) occasion with my wife. You (I think) said you were divorced? I love my wife more than ever. You and I as friends can certainly have disagreements and still respect each other. You don't need to "reveal" your chart if it makes you uncomfortable. For astrologers (me only a hobbiest) it helps to understand people. As Carmody suggests not a good idea to plop it out in public as there are some who will take advantage of it.

Not me ... not the village.

You are most welcome here provided we all share the peace and love of the village.

Not hard to understand. Doesn't take 5000 word post to convey.

Right???

:wub:

[eaglespirit]

Don't usually do this...
but this one speaks to my heart and bringing it here and now through my heart : )




Complexity Shock: Cresting with the Wave

The shift into release language in March is unlike our previously discerned 'tipping point' of 9/11/2001. In that instance the data forecast a planetary change that would alter life thereafter, but there were no signs of any discontinuity. In the forecast of the 9/11/2001 incident there were accretion patterns that put us (planetary humanity) back into building tension language a mere 3 days after the [entrenched elite] had staged their attack on the [populace] of earth. In the case of the March 2012 shift into release language, there is not a 'return' to building tension language. From the accretion patterns, it does not look as though 'business as usual' persists past March 10th.

Within the Matterium, all is directed toward the production of ever increasing complexity. This conclusion can be logically derived from the understanding of the nature of the pulse/pause that is the core of the continual creation model. It started as one pulse racing across a self-defined, self-enclosing 'space', to bounce off it's self-created walls and return to collide with itself repetitiously, endlessly creating ever more complex patterns of collisions. Each pause wipes it all out that it may be recreated again so fast that you miss that part of reality entirely. With each recreation at the rate of 22 trillion times a second, the level of complexity compounds itself yet again. This is the nature of matterium, and thus provides, as Bucky would have it, 'the general case extractum' from which we form the 'knowledge' that 'universe (and all who sail in her) is striving for greater and greater complexity'. Here on earth (as Terrance McKenna sus'd out, 'humans are the pinnacle of the complexification process that is universe'.

We, those voyagers in the matterium, will soon reach a point where the universe propelled complexification becomes 'observable'. Note this word. Likely we will also have [visibility] of this within the msm (lying mainstream f**ktards pretending to be journalists – Matt Taibi and his ilk excepted, with respect), but the aware observer will be swimming in the shockwave of the ever new now long before the msm can muster the coherent thoughts necessary to describe the contexts of the emerging reality around them.

It is our understanding that the 'complexification wave' will be observable in March of 2012 as we top the building tension language. Now, noting how universe manifests, it continually produces surprise. In fact, the expression of the complex of emotions that is 'surprise' is likely a very good indicator that the human has just encountered 'new complexity'. Having observed the 'surprise factor' component to how universe chooses to manifest, it is unlikely that we can, in any meaningful way, imagine the experience of cresting with the complexification wave.

As surfers or sailors we may think we have a 'body clue' to what is coming , but that is likely ego led presumption as this is neither wind nor water which are bound, but rather it is the underlying complexification of universe that starts a never ending crest. Once we are in the froth of it, we will all 'know', and all prior to that is observation, speculation or deduction. Or mis-direction...yes, 'they' will still be trying their **** right up to the crest.

What is palpable is that we (terrestrial humanity) are close to this upcoming experience.

You feel it now.

You have felt it coming for some time.

It, that feeling crawling up your shadow, is the shockwave of the future as complexification collides with itself to produce the manifestation of the infinity wave.


Raven says -

Overcoming.

A moment of pain.

A lifetime of pride.

Row Hard.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/cresting.html

[ulli]

Who said "Hell is other people. "

Stephen King described Hell as : Repetition. Like ground hogs day.

I wonder if was referring to reincarnation.

That was Jean Paul Sartre. In his play Huis Clos. Geschlossene Gesellschaft.
No Exit.

Maybe we here and now are going to open that door and let them out.

ZmT8dK2uVIQ

[Calz]

Carmody is right. But...It wouldn't make me uncomfortable Cal I know very well the challenges I've had to overcome. Very deeply wounded, very abusive home life, lots of mental insanity in my early life, ess , ego-tism, destruction, vengefulness, disconnected from reality, hyper critical , perfectionst, lost in idealism, withdrawn, aloof. I've shared a lot of those personal experiences with the internal struggle with people. I've had people get in a wad for sharing those experienes and I have people who think I don't share that sort of information because it makes me uncomfortable.

It causes conflict. Everyone wants to hear about it and no one wants to hear about it.

And that's great that my chart shows all those challenges but when that chart doesn't support the notion that I'm mean, warlike, tough love., and a Neptuna ..what will we do then?



Ulli, that's whose post I quoted. Or maybe she didn't.

Regardless....

Posting my astrology chart would probably lead to more mayhem and bad feelings .



You forgot.


"You" in reference to whom???

Sorry ... my mind is still a bit fuzzy after all those swoops.


I put up my chart (data) for all to see.

Would love to see what such an uber advanced soul as yourself came into the rock with ...

Or is that a one way mirror???

9 you were one of my first "friends" here ... and I don't mean that in respect to a mouse click.

Tough love ... this is *me* trying to remind you that I do, in fact, love you.

Hey I have fights on (rare) occasion with my wife. You (I think) said you were divorced? I love my wife more than ever. You and I as friends can certainly have disagreements and still respect each other. You don't need to "reveal" your chart if it makes you uncomfortable. For astrologers (me only a hobbiest) it helps to understand people. As Carmody suggests not a good idea to plop it out in public as there are some who will take advantage of it.

Not me ... not the village.

You are most welcome here provided we all share the peace and love of the village.

Not hard to understand. Doesn't take 5000 word post to convey.

Right???

:wub:

Come in peace.

Aside from me and my 5 libra slant ... no one here is kicking you in the butt.

Well ... at least those only taking into account what happens here in this forum and not others.

The Pisces victim role is "new" for you here. I won't discount it or in any way take away from your story.

We are all one (one shape or form).

There is no way I or anyone could walk through what your past experiences have brought. If it, in fact, has brought you into a space of higher learning then we can all accept and appreciate that.

Please remember and respect that when you come from a voice of experience and knowledge ... we all have free will and (rightfully or not) have room to offer up other voices as well. No judgement or suggestion of right or wrong. Free will.

In your loss of respect for "love and light" (and I can understand certain aspects of that) ... do you not still recognize free will???

[Lisab]

1inMany that is such great news. A cancerian should def live in the country x

[ulli]

Carmody is right. But...It wouldn't make me uncomfortable Cal I know very well the challenges I've had to overcome. Very deeply wounded, very abusive home life, lots of mental insanity in my early life, ess , ego-tism, destruction, vengefulness, disconnected from reality, hyper critical , perfectionst, lost in idealism, withdrawn, aloof. I've shared a lot of those personal experiences with the internal struggle with people. I've had people get in a wad for sharing those experienes and I have people who think I don't share that sort of information because it makes me uncomfortable.

It causes conflict. Everyone wants to hear about it and no one wants to hear about it.

And that's great that my chart shows all those challenges but when that chart doesn't support the notion that I'm mean, warlike, tough love., and a Neptuna ..what will we do then?



Eagle9...All charts are mirrors of a reality we are in the process of creating.
Each sign, each house, each planet can have a positive and a negative application.
You yourself know that.
Hence Pisces at it's lowest, densest, is drugs, alcohol, insanity, confusion, escapism.
In the middle it is disciplined creativity, that can build heaven on earth.
At it's highest it is divine channeling...the kind of revelation that transforms masses of people with it's sheer presence in a 3 D body...God incarnate.

Aries at it's lowest is impatience, bloodshed, rage war for the fun of it.
Aries in the middle is Activity leading to innovation, pioneer spirit discovering new territories.
At it's highest it is a guardian shield of bravery that uses it's power with angelic authority.
So everything has to be seen in this graduated scale manner...then there are no misunderstandings.

[Mike]

LOL!

a few of us can still fly around....astrally anyway. does that count?

wait a second, do termites have wings???


I knew it! I knew you guys were a different species.

I was consdiering the termite part after reflecting on the way an ex of mine could eat five Big Mac's in one sitting ..

But..why did you keep the pig part and get rid of the flying part?

It would be fun to have a flying man in the house...if they were house trained.

Wait scratch the idea...if you can't put the toilet seat down on while standing chances are flying around will not make it easier for you.????

:confused:






i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

i must say i thought she was saying that with tongue firmly in cheek, but apparently not. a unicorn? well, there are worse things one could have derived from, termites for example(i will not ask you if you are being sarcastic because i don't think i want to know the answer to that;))


What if the answer is no?
I can't remember the last time I was being sarcastic, although I had plenty of that to dish out when I was younger.
All gender comments from me are based on strictly scientific observations backed up by statistics.


watch out, i may challenge you to provide said scientific evidence ulli!:fencing:

from my vast research, and this is simply indisputable, men come from flying pigs. save yourself the internet search, as i've provided you with my unequivocal data right in this very post: :flypig:

[write4change]

IinMany,

I feel your excitement. But for sure I want you to succeed which often means listening to people who have been there. Especially about a yard dog. Does this place have acres? If so how many? How close is your nearest neighbor? How close is the nearest gas station and the nearest grocery store--major? Does it have out buildings? If so what kind? What kind of fencing, which in the country can be very important? Are you changing lifestyles or only the type of housing and neighborhood?

If you want to continue this conversation with me, you need to answer these questions so I have a clear picture of what you have in mind.

Whether or not we continue, I wish you much happiness and better vibes there.

Love, Jai

[ulli]

I knew it! I knew you guys were a different species.

I was consdiering the termite part after reflecting on the way an ex of mine could eat five Big Mac's in one sitting ..

But..why did you keep the pig part and get rid of the flying part?

It would be fun to have a flying man in the house...if they were house trained.

Wait scratch the idea...if you can't put the toilet seat down on while standing chances are flying around will not make it easier for you.????

:confused:


I really like your shorter posts best.
Keep 'em coming.

[Calz]

Less is more :)

[ulli]

Here and Now...:peep: Went to see a new place yesterday. It feels right, and is happening quite smoothly. Taking the hint & going with it. The countryside scenery is breathtaking for me, and hopefully the wide open space will allow me to breathe. I will have fruit trees, pears and apples, so I will want to learn everything I can about helping them to produce yummies without hurting any critters. The lady that is selling the place says in 5 years she has only seen 2 snakes! She also said we need a yard dog to chase off the raccoons and possums. After I stop laughing, I ponder the term "yard dog." Having a bit of trouble with that one lol. I'm such a sucker that I couldn't leave a dog outside 24/7...especially when the temps range from about 25F-100F depending on the season. And, though I'm a softie, I could not imagine letting a dog in the house after he's been out frolicking all day...mud & rolling around in poo comes to mind. A dog in the house is awesome, so loving...but I have to get one that doesn't shed and that usually rules out the dogs whose bark would scare off mother nature herself lol. More pondering on this one...And the lady also reports that the cat(s) we saw (and smelled...and that made my eyes swell up and tears run down my face) are not hers exactly. They adopted her. New visualization: I see the woman being so attached that she cannot bear to leave it/them behind!!!!!

This will be a slice of heaven for me. After second guessing myself ridiculously, I remembered that if this doesn't work out...um, hello...I'll deal with it then. And, for heaven's sake, my feet will not be buried in concrete and the commitment to stay there not written in blood. Talked to a few of the townsfolk, helped me recall some of my earlier experiences in small towns. Boy, things sure are gonna change lol. I'm so excited I want to go pack now.

Much Love,

I envy you. I love packing. I love measuring a new place to see where I'm going to put the furniture.
I have moved so many times I remember the exact dimensions of each one of my pieces.
Use Google Sketchup now to plan how things are going to be placed so there is no problem when the movers come.
I become like a circus director.

Is there a garage for the dogs, when the climate goes too extreme?

[ulli]

1inMany that is such great news. A cancerian should def live in the country x

Or on water.....sailing, or a houseboat on the river Thames.

[Calz]

1inMany that is such great news. A cancerian should def live in the country x

Or on water.....sailing, or a houseboat on the river Thames.


Cool ... we needed a break for a song :)


VMkIuKXwmlU

[1inMany]

Aw, man, you want me to talk more about where I'm going? MUAHHHHAHAHAHAHA. Well, okay, if you insist.

It's 3 1/2 acres, fenced on all but the street sides. Has a pond, fruit trees, pine trees, big trees that I will have to figure out...oak? The lady says there were grapes, but doesn't know whether they made it through the drought. There is smaller intimate space with a little fountain thingy & perfect for a private little oasis/flowers! Already has a bench swing. The land is sort of sectioned with a couple of fences we will remove...enough room for a horse but we will opt for the boarding up the road and feeding & loving on the 3 curious & spunky mares next door that come to our fence. Beautiful. Bordering one side & the back is a ranch, a small one. Bordering the other side is a home on prob about 3 acres as well. Blacktop road. Across the street is a house with more like maybe 10 acres. Beyond that, down the road, are big chunks of land, privately owned, prob 100 acres a piece. The cats keep away the mice & rats & keep the snake population down. The dogs keep away the other 4 legged critters. Of course, the rats & mice probably keep away the spiders...

We need a MAJOR lifestyle change. My husband will stay here and work, a few more years until retirement for him, but it will be an awesome retreat for him!!!! It's only about an hour and a half, but since it is towards Arkansas it is freaking beautiful...pine trees and HILLS! Texas has hills! (lol)

We are deciding between a greenhouse and an in-ground garden for our fresh stuff... There are several out buildings. One is a typical storage shed, metal with windows. Another looks more like a home-made wooden structure with an extended roof...she used it for rabbits. A third is...kind of like a metal storage shed, but only steps from the house. Looks like she insulated it but didn't get to the sheetrock. This will make an awesome music room, or a quiet place for ceramics and crystals....more related to the home than the yard.

We are also planning to dig a cellar...just in case.

Back to the lifestyle. If I were not the least familiar with what I'm getting into, I would not know how scared I should be lol. I have lived in small podunk towns, and in the city. Never owned horses, but have been around them quite a bit. Used to own a shop on a small town main street, and I enjoyed the heck out of it, but not going for that this time. I will be leaving behind the pressures...the schools are like pressure cookers with no release valve here, going out of the house means driving on a 6-8 lane highway here, leaving behind the separateness of the "neighbors" who live 10 feet away but don't know what friendly is to save their lives. Leaving behind the stolen bicycles, stolen carseat off the front porch, but moving towards teens who drink & smoke meth at bonfires in the woods (probably). Leaving behind anonymity in favor of privacy, but the privacy is a paradox...I will have space, but everybody will know my business.

Town, with 1 elem school, 1 mid school, and 1 high sch, is about 10 minutes away ... up the main road lol. There is an actual grocery store...leaving behind Hel-Mart. That means I'm leaving behind conveniences, too. That's okay with me. I will give up 25 rolls of toilet paper for $2 (no, not really) in favor of listening to crickets at night. :)

Does that help? Because if not, you just let me know!

Much Love,

p.s. - just read about Cancerians living on water ;) We are no more than 15 minutes away from 3 different lakes :)

p.s.p.s. - about the dogs...there is a garage, a dog run, and a dog house. But I still don't think I could do it.

[ViralSpiral]

Cool ... we needed a break for a song :)



I concur. Intermission.

More choon whilst I collect wood for the campfire.

Was reminded of this one whilst reading the Fulford update....


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Talk amongst yourselves... laterzzzz

[1inMany]

Ulli-thanks for the tip, I will definitely use that Sketch-up thing...my hand gets tired from sketching and erasing lol...

[meeradas]

We are also planning to dig a cellar...just in case.

That's what i call an all-encompassing vision.

She's gonna start a band, too!

[ulli]

LOL!

a few of us can still fly around....astrally anyway. does that count?

wait a second, do termites have wings???




Found this on the web...then added my comments to emphasize my earlier point:

Do termites have wings? They do at first, until they find a nice nest. Then they shed their wings....... Just like young men.

Termites have been around since the time of the dinosaurs!...... So they were here first...

Termite colonies eat non-stop, 24 hours a day, seven days a week!....just like most men...

Termites cause up to $2 billion in damage per year! .........A bit less than men, but obviously being a termite gave men the training.

All Termites are social insects and raise their young as a group......Just like men, who put their young into to military, or cubicles with a computer and a desk.

The total weight of all of the termites in the world is more than the weight of all the humans in the world.....that one I find hard to believe....

[9eagle9]

I'm starting vaulting this year with the girls. Which means I have to do it too. I have picked a arab/halflinger mix , that is low to the ground to conduct this insanity of gymnastics on horseback. ...lol. It will be good for them to be like little spider monkeys while thier instructor is being trampled..lol.

I have been doing older adult sessions for those returning to riding or those who are older and just learning. Thus far the only problem I've encountered with falling off is with the green riders who purchase maniacal green broke horses and wonder why their fifty year old bodies are being slammed to the ground. ...lol.Those older gals returning ot riding know to just pick the right horse and their fine.

I want to get in to driving too. I haven't nearly approached my limits as far pushing my body and I left falling off to my younger , crazy self but who knows what the future will bring. Right now everyone at the barn is waiting for me to take my first fall( there) and it's just not going to happen . Nope no thanks , grounds too hard. I still want ride the freight train though, the 17. 2stadium jumper that you can't stop once put in motion. I know what its going to do to me if I go down so I'm like....okay easily solved... just don't fall off. I really am trusting my body again, and this has even showed me a lot about body image. My body can do some amazing things , in spite of it all and showed me to be kinder in attitude with it. My body is doing something that only 3 percent of the world can do...so I had to be kinder to it instead of yarking on about what it looks like.

Maybe not under estimate yourself. You may do well a nice perky horse that you didn't have to leg on constantly but that was steady and well trained. The body just goes back to that balance place so easily even after decades of not riding. Once the stiffness goes anyway...Even when the well trained horse does the occasional bomb out, the good old cellular memory kicks in and compensates. That's where age and experience has served us. Once every loopy range of motion has unseated us, 1,2,3 times its not going to do it again.


Breakfast with Ulli,

Staggered up in time for no accidents in the house before the walk. Kimba has learned that she gets to go back to the house as soon as she does her duty. Thus, she is now prompt and the walk is about 15 feet. She needs me. I guess that was always a consideration because she is so different that no one has fostered her in six months. I am not sure about this rescue--how profit making they are. They talk all the time about being understaffed. My big question that I have not voiced is why with so many homeless dogs in this country are we flying in foreign dogs. What is it about Americans that taking care of our own is not as up lifting as taking care of the exotic. And Oprah is a fine example of that. Once she said that Americans have no gratitude only entitlement. Is that thought something we manifest everywhere.

Coming back in the house I make my tea and start Uli in the morning. Everything about that has worked for me in the last week. I thanked a lot of people this morning with no results. I kept getting a weird triangle on the screen. Turns out I was disconnected because the cat decided to sleep on the roter?

When I move back to Texas, I will get into carriage horses this time. I am too old to fall off a horse any more. And I may need like in the old days horses to plow and pull as much as transportation. 9eagle I loved your explanation of falling I wished I had thought of it. For my daughter it was not an issue because she started gymnastics at two. No one I know thinks of cross training with jumpers as gymnastics but balance beam work and dismounting gave my daughter a sense of her body and timing none of the others had. When she started riding and jumping at 11, she had the timing and when her balance came really off she would do a running dismount. At a major horse show, and she had not been competing 4 months. Someone cut her stirrups. After the second jump, they fell off. She pulled him up and gathered herself and completed the round without faults with no stirrups. She got a standing ovation. All that did was take her riding knowledge and confidence up another notch. My daughter Maxx was an incredibile rider. Just before she died, she was the youngest jumper on the youngest horse and without even considering campaigning yet--she ranked 18 in the entire state of Texas. As long as she was alive, I stayed on the ground. I did not want to compete with her in anyway. After she died, I kept her horses and her two Picasso and Mighty Max were both state champions in California. In fact I hold the amateur jumper title for the years 97,98,99, 2000. I don't know how long someone will take to break that record at the Pacific Coast Horse Association. Before me, two consecutive years was the most ever done.

[write4change]

1inMany,

This was very good and I will get back on it later tonight but I have to get out of here and get some work done today.

However the best thing you could do is rush right out and buy the Mother Earth News Magazine which has an offer inside to buy a DVD for 40.00 which has their entire publications for the last 40 years. There has to be a reason they are doing this, not that much money in it. Everything you will ever need to know will be there. I am getting one soon. I have kept lots of their magazines and I have loved and cherished everyone. Here in California I buy them at Home Depot. It is also called the Original Guide to Living Wisely.

I am so thrilled for you. Jai

I know where you are and where you are is where I will be going approximately soon. It would be interesting if we turned out to be practically neighbors.

[9eagle9]

Yes I understand free will.


People misunderstanding what free will entails is part of the problem.

People are making choices that are hurting them, and then blaming others for staying in that choice, instead of just getting out of the agreement they've made. That's not free will.


The point is. Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work.

That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

If someone is reacting to wounds ....they don't have free will. We don't know what free will is til we heal ourselves. If we are in states of auto-hypnosis....we don't have free will.

Free will only comes after we're healed.



Carmody is right. But...It wouldn't make me uncomfortable Cal I know very well the challenges I've had to overcome. Very deeply wounded, very abusive home life, lots of mental insanity in my early life, ess , ego-tism, destruction, vengefulness, disconnected from reality, hyper critical , perfectionst, lost in idealism, withdrawn, aloof. I've shared a lot of those personal experiences with the internal struggle with people. I've had people get in a wad for sharing those experienes and I have people who think I don't share that sort of information because it makes me uncomfortable.

It causes conflict. Everyone wants to hear about it and no one wants to hear about it.

And that's great that my chart shows all those challenges but when that chart doesn't support the notion that I'm mean, warlike, tough love., and a Neptuna ..what will we do then?



Ulli, that's whose post I quoted. Or maybe she didn't.

Regardless....

Posting my astrology chart would probably lead to more mayhem and bad feelings .



You forgot.


"You" in reference to whom???

Sorry ... my mind is still a bit fuzzy after all those swoops.


I put up my chart (data) for all to see.

Would love to see what such an uber advanced soul as yourself came into the rock with ...

Or is that a one way mirror???

9 you were one of my first "friends" here ... and I don't mean that in respect to a mouse click.

Tough love ... this is *me* trying to remind you that I do, in fact, love you.

Hey I have fights on (rare) occasion with my wife. You (I think) said you were divorced? I love my wife more than ever. You and I as friends can certainly have disagreements and still respect each other. You don't need to "reveal" your chart if it makes you uncomfortable. For astrologers (me only a hobbiest) it helps to understand people. As Carmody suggests not a good idea to plop it out in public as there are some who will take advantage of it.

Not me ... not the village.

You are most welcome here provided we all share the peace and love of the village.

Not hard to understand. Doesn't take 5000 word post to convey.

Right???

:wub:

Come in peace.

Aside from me and my 5 libra slant ... no one here is kicking you in the butt.

Well ... at least those only taking into account what happens here in this forum and not others.

The Pisces victim role is "new" for you here. I won't discount it or in any way take away from your story.

We are all one (one shape or form).

There is no way I or anyone could walk through what your past experiences have brought. If it, in fact, has brought you into a space of higher learning then we can all accept and appreciate that.

Please remember and respect that when you come from a voice of experience and knowledge ... we all have free will and (rightfully or not) have room to offer up other voices as well. No judgement or suggestion of right or wrong. Free will.

In your loss of respect for "love and light" (and I can understand certain aspects of that) ... do you not still recognize free will???

[ulli]

Breakfast with Ulli,

Staggered up in time for no accidents in the house before the walk. Kimba has learned that she gets to go back to the house as soon as she does her duty. Thus, she is now prompt and the walk is about 15 feet. She needs me. I guess that was always a consideration because she is so different that no one has fostered her in six months. I am not sure about this rescue--how profit making they are. They talk all the time about being understaffed. My big question that I have not voiced is why with so many homeless dogs in this country are we flying in foreign dogs. What is it about Americans that taking care of our own is not as up lifting as taking care of the exotic. And Oprah is a fine example of that. Once she said that Americans have no gratitude only entitlement. Is that thought something we manifest everywhere.

Coming back in the house I make my tea and start Uli in the morning. Everything about that has worked for me in the last week. I thanked a lot of people this morning with no results. I kept getting a weird triangle on the screen. Turns out I was disconnected because the cat decided to sleep on the roter?

When I move back to Texas, I will get into carriage horses this time. I am too old to fall off a horse any more. And I may need like in the old days horses to plow and pull as much as transportation. 9eagle I loved your explanation of falling I wished I had thought of it. For my daughter it was not an issue because she started gymnastics at two. No one I know thinks of cross training with jumpers as gymnastics but balance beam work and dismounting gave my daughter a sense of her body and timing none of the others had. When she started riding and jumping at 11, she had the timing and when her balance came really off she would do a running dismount. At a major horse show, and she had not been competing 4 months. Someone cut her stirrups. After the second jump, they fell off. She pulled him up and gathered herself and completed the round without faults with no stirrups. She got a standing ovation. All that did was take her riding knowledge and confidence up another notch. My daughter Maxx was an incredibile rider. Just before she died, she was the youngest jumper on the youngest horse and without even considering campaigning yet--she ranked 18 in the entire state of Texas. As long as she was alive, I stayed on the ground. I did not want to compete with her in anyway. After she died, I kept her horses and her two Picasso and Mighty Max were both state champions in California. In fact I hold the amateur jumper title for the years 97,98,99, 2000. I don't know how long someone will take to break that record at the Pacific Coast Horse Association. Before me, two consecutive years was the most ever done.

I'm loving your sharing. Curious now to hear how this new life is going to affect Kimba's personality.
Horse stories alas, get my vertigo going....the view from a horse is to me no different than that from the top of that sky scraper in Dubai.

[9eagle9]

He he...There you go.

When that chart reveals that I'm not the just the bad boy and the stealer of free will,....

There's two choices to be made.

Astrology may be wrong...

or

Astrology may be correct .

My chart says a lot about the nuturing of other's free will. Meaning when that chart says I have an abilty to see through people and know what they are doing, the Astrologer may be compelled to accept what it has to say....or be in the uncomfortable position of wondering if their craft is in error. And if the craft is in error, there's a possiblity they may be wrong about themselves as well.

A further conundrum I don't to be in the center of.... if you know what I mean.



Carmody is right. But...It wouldn't make me uncomfortable Cal I know very well the challenges I've had to overcome. Very deeply wounded, very abusive home life, lots of mental insanity in my early life, ess , ego-tism, destruction, vengefulness, disconnected from reality, hyper critical , perfectionst, lost in idealism, withdrawn, aloof. I've shared a lot of those personal experiences with the internal struggle with people. I've had people get in a wad for sharing those experienes and I have people who think I don't share that sort of information because it makes me uncomfortable.

It causes conflict. Everyone wants to hear about it and no one wants to hear about it.

And that's great that my chart shows all those challenges but when that chart doesn't support the notion that I'm mean, warlike, tough love., and a Neptuna ..what will we do then?



Eagle9...All charts are mirrors of a reality we are in the process of creating.
Each sign, each house, each planet can have a positive and a negative application.
You yourself know that.
Hence Pisces at it's lowest, densest, is drugs, alcohol, insanity, confusion, escapism.
In the middle it is disciplined creativity, that can build heaven on earth.
At it's highest it is divine channeling...the kind of revelation that transforms masses of people with it's sheer presence in a 3 D body...God incarnate.

Aries at it's lowest is impatience, bloodshed, rage war for the fun of it.
Aries in the middle is Activity leading to innovation, pioneer spirit discovering new territories.
At it's highest it is a guardian shield of bravery that uses it's power with angelic authority.
So everything has to be seen in this graduated scale manner...then there are no misunderstandings.

[Calz]

Yes I understand free will.


People misunderstanding what free will entails is part of the problem.

People are making choices that are hurting them, and then blaming others for staying in that choice, instead of just getting out of the agreement they've made. That's not free will.


The point is. Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work.

That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

If someone is reacting to wounds ....they don't have free will. We don't know what free will is til we heal ourselves. If we are in states of auto-hypnosis....we don't have free will.

Free will only comes after we're healed.




Okay ... now we are communicating ... yes even Pisces to Libra (hey remember my mother was Pisces and I loved her to death ... at least until I grew up :haha: (just kidding ... I loved her afterwards as well).)



That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

Not imposing anything. Goes with the Pisces territory. If you want to pound your chest and point to a planet with an orb approaching Aries ... then it seems you would also recognize the Pisces aspects as well??? Or shall we all pick and chose?

How does:


Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work

apply to Ishtar???

Care to reverse "roles" (you will need to upon your "life review" and I know you know that).



Free will only comes after we're healed.


Interesting statement.

Call me stupid (shut up modwiz :croc: ) but I don't understand that.

Can you elaborate?


What was that saying about teachers learning from students?

If you want to join the village then do so ... as a member and as an equal.

Humanity has had enough of leaders.

[Black Panther]

Who said "Hell is other people. "

Stephen King described Hell as : Repetition. Like ground hogs day.

I wonder if was referring to reincarnation.

Eckhart Tolle talked about the movie 'GroundHog Day'
in a monthly talk of him. He was talking about
"American Cinema and the Awakening of Consciousness".
Really liked it to see Eckhart talking about movies.

I don't know about the movie "Hell", but this movie is
about a man that relives the same day again and again.
He is mad at everyone and everybody. Because he don't
want to relive the same day anymore he tries to kill himself.
But even than he wakes up again and the same things
happening. Until he starts enjoying everything that day
and he wants to actually relive the same day he is able
to move on. So yes, reïncarnation!

We can choose to make it a Hell or a Heaven on Earth.

[ulli]

He he...There you go.

When that chart reveals that I'm not the just the bad boy and the stealer of free will,....

There's two choices to be made.

Astrology may be wrong...

or

Astrology may be correct .


Charts don't reveal good or bad behavior.
All 12 signs have produced saints as well as serial killers.

My point was to show the tendency of a sign, dependent on a person's spiritual development.

Signs can be recognized via keywords.

Openness: Aquarius comes to mind, but also curiosity.
Courage: Aries comes to mind, but also recklessness.
Dignity: Leo comes to mind, but also pompousness.
Analysis: Virgo comes to mind, but also petty criticism.
Discreetness: Scorpio comes to mind, but also secrecy and cover-up.
Libra: Beauty comes to mind but also frivolity.
etc.
Just a few examples.

people say "I'm Taurus...is that good or bad?"
and I have to inform them that the sign just IS...the person just IS...
as good and bad are such relative terms.
Which I always go on about context and consequence.

[dan33]

I knew it! I knew you guys were a different species.

I was consdiering the termite part after reflecting on the way an ex of mine could eat five Big Mac's in one sitting ..

But..why did you keep the pig part and get rid of the flying part?

It would be fun to have a flying man in the house...if they were house trained.

Wait scratch the idea...if you can't put the toilet seat down on while standing chances are flying around will not make it easier for you.????

:confused:


I really like your shorter posts best.
Keep 'em coming.

I always pee sitting down. My friends pee sitting down, also. I can brush my teeth or I can fix a tv while urinating. Is more comfortable and clean.I 'm not jocking.

... and now let me make a joke ha, ha
... but the problem is that my girlfriend pees standing

:)

[ulli]

Who said "Hell is other people. "

Stephen King described Hell as : Repetition. Like ground hogs day.

I wonder if was referring to reincarnation.

Eckhart Tolle talked about the movie 'GroundHog Day'
in a monthly talk of him. He was talking about
"American Cinema and the Awakening of Consciousness".
Really liked it to see Eckhart talking about movies.

I don't know about the movie "Hell", but this movie is
about a man that relives the same day again and again.
He is mad at everyone and everybody. Because he don't
want to relive the same day anymore he tries to kill himself.
But even than he wakes up again and the same things
happening. Until he starts enjoying everything that day
and he wants to actually relive the same day he is able
to move on. So yes, reïncarnation!

We can choose to make it a Hell or a Heaven on Earth.


I loved Groundhog Day. Great performance by Bill Murray.
The closest movie to get to the mystery of time.

[eaglespirit]

1InMany...
p.s.p.s. - about the dogs...there is a garage, a dog run, and a dog house. But I still don't think I could do it.

ooooohhh sure Ya can : ) Just get the right kind...heck some of 'em are almost self-cleaning before comin' inside given the right entry path.
Why not get a younger one that is already ranch/farm groomed!?!

[dan33]

Who said "Hell is other people. "

Stephen King described Hell as : Repetition. Like ground hogs day.

I wonder if was referring to reincarnation.

Eckhart Tolle talked about the movie 'GroundHog Day'
in a monthly talk of him. He was talking about
"American Cinema and the Awakening of Consciousness".
Really liked it to see Eckhart talking about movies.

I don't know about the movie "Hell", but this movie is
about a man that relives the same day again and again.
He is mad at everyone and everybody. Because he don't
want to relive the same day anymore he tries to kill himself.
But even than he wakes up again and the same things
happening. Until he starts enjoying everything that day
and he wants to actually relive the same day he is able
to move on. So yes, reïncarnation!

We can choose to make it a Hell or a Heaven on Earth.

I remember an interview with Johan Neeskens. He said it was his favourite movie. :).................... i think.

[Marianne]

Aw, man, you want me to talk more about where I'm going? MUAHHHHAHAHAHAHA. Well, okay, if you insist.
hehehe


We are deciding between a greenhouse and an in-ground garden for our fresh stuff...

I haven't done anything personally with in-ground gardens, but hear they are FABULOUS, and very productive. I had a friend who converted her pool, took out the cement and it was a nice square hole in the ground, she planted stuff there and had great success.

If you devised a cover, the temperature would be moderated naturally below the ground, I think a space like that would enable you to grow food plants there year round. In winter, grow hardy things like lettuces, greens, leeks, and even perhaps broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, all the cabbage family plants.

Whereas a greenhouse would require some sort of energy to maintain.

Will be interested to see how it goes ... best of luck!

[dan33]

STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND. Robert Heinlein.

Great novel too, Ulli.

[ulli]

Here and Now: Ulli is worried about Omniverse.
He has disappeared, and a neighbor found his laptop.

I just checked his chart: not good.
Saturn square Ascendant, North node on his Uranus, and Uranus on his Mercury.
There could be more but since I don't know the exact day of his disappearance.....
Maybe here is an opportunity for the Villagers to show what our combined focus can come up with.

[ViralSpiral]

He posted in the thread

here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38371-Has-anyone-heard-from-Omnisense-Omniverse-lately-Missing-for-two-weeks-now-...&p=399790#post399790)

[dan33]

I went to a Catholic school. 13 years of priests and religion.
I went to church a lot and prayed the rosary. During those endless moments of boredom, I imagined stories. Here is one of many.

During the Mass, when the priest raises the chalice .... I imagined the priest with a syringe to suck the wine. Then he made ​​a tourniquet with the rosary. He injected into the vein .. the wine (blood of Christ). He gasped, laughed, and we remained standing and serious. Something normal ... as usual.The only thing he did the priest, was injecting Christ energy.

[Lisab]

Omni's back but he has got stuff going on. He still needs us.

[9eagle9]

Yes I understand free will.


People misunderstanding what free will entails is part of the problem.

People are making choices that are hurting them, and then blaming others for staying in that choice, instead of just getting out of the agreement they've made. That's not free will.


The point is. Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work.

That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

If someone is reacting to wounds ....they don't have free will. We don't know what free will is til we heal ourselves. If we are in states of auto-hypnosis....we don't have free will.

Free will only comes after we're healed.




Okay ... now we are communicating ... yes even Pisces to Libra (hey remember my mother was Pisces and I loved her to death ... at least until I grew up :haha: (just kidding ... I loved her afterwards as well).)



That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

Not imposing anything. Goes with the Pisces territory. If you want to pound your chest and point to a planet with an orb approaching Aries ... then it seems you would also recognize the Pisces aspects as well??? Or shall we all pick and chose?

No we're not communicating. Your throwing beliefs and roles at me and you revealing that everything that you made such deal out of....you don't even respect yourself. Such something to rally around.

Okay my Pisces lets me know I know what I'm doing. No chest pounding necessary . No uncertainty here, I trust my intuition more than other people's 'facts'. It's never failed me. Not once has it ever failed me. Roles fail, true intution does not. Bull**** meter and role playing meter are all included. My intuition is not a role, it's something we all have.

How does:


Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work

apply to Ishtar???

Care to reverse "roles" (you will need to upon your "life review" and I know you know that).


Yep same thing. Someone assumed a role and the role collapsed before a few questions that the real article could have handled very adeptly. I have repeated this dozens of time. What part of role playing do you NOT understand? I didn't hold a gun to her head--she chose that role and it collapsed on her by being offered a few questions the real deal could have coped with easily.

I know what the real deal is...they don't fall apart when you ask them "What is the point here?" Someone assumes a role, it breaks down after five minutes..and that's my fault how? Did I teach them to play the role. Did I encourage them? No. .


Pisces lets me trust what I'm seeing. Arie's gives me the fortitude to say "No, I don't think you're blaming me for the role that YOU chose. My Aries is more about intellectual nimbleness not leading. Arie's rules the head.

I'm good at what I do, I know what i'm seeing. That's my Pisces. Not just my Pisces, it's my Neptune In Scorpio too. .


When one spends hours a day in self reflection and healing wounds that IS THE LIFE REVIEW.

People who are actually attempting to transform themselves look at their life, forwards, backwards and present--- everyday of their life. They don't wait till their dead. What do you think Astrology is for?To help us know WHO we are ....or to let us know what may be preventing us from knowing who we are.

Your throwing roles and beleif systems at me. That is not WHO YOU ARE.



Free will only comes after we're healed.


Interesting statement.

Call me stupid (shut up modwiz :croc: ) but I don't understand that.

Can you elaborate?

It's in David Wilcock's material. Why don't you know? And after extolling your concern for him and challenging me that I dind't read his material you are actually asking me to elborate on what you should have learned from his material. Or didn't he cover what auto hypnosis is? Because you'd know the difference between therapeutic hypnosis and auto hypnosis . Or ...didn't you understand? You're the one said you couldn't be hypnotised but everyone goes into a hypnotic state daily. Like when they are driving. When we automatically stop for a stop sign, we are in state of auto hypnosis.

Our auto hypnosis is based on conditions placed in us beyond conscious recall. We keep reacting to those conditions until the time comes that they are removed (healed). That's not free will. Reacting, knee jerking to our emotions, being driven by our emotional conditions. Until the time those conditions are removed we are not operating under our own volition but our behaviors and our ourbursts are a result of emotional conditions . Subconcious suggestions from the past. We are simply re-acting-out a suggestion that has been put in us. That's not free will.

Now do you understand?

I understand you've basically just let me know that you aren't as much of a admirer of Wilcock as all this angst merits. So what gives with that?

What was that saying about teachers learning from students?

Students have a willingness to be shown, not told . They're not just 'fans' and adherents. What they are learning is being expressed through them so the teacher can see themselves in the student. ]

If you want to join the village then do so ... as a member and as an equal.

I'm not creating myself as anything more or anything less than what I already am.. I already know you can beat yourself up more than I can...auto hypnosis. Quit imposing roles on me and you won't t have any cause for conflict.


Humanity has had enough of leaders.

Humanity has had enough role players that pose as leaders. We lack good leaders who know that leading is by example. Not telling people a bunch of gobbedly gook. Well if Wilcock has shown anyone anything its that. Leaders don't lead by leading..they lead by example. By showing. By expressing the fruits of their labors through them...and the students. Not leading people by the nose but expressing by what they themselves have learned. You claim to be a admirer of Wilcock, a fan. i can't really see you as a student since it appears you've not been shown anything by him. I've read his material and see all sorts of good information about auto hypnosis and conditioning . But I'm not the one who is banging the Wilcock pan....you are. So ...uh.....why don't you know this? What is all this wallowing about Wilcocks and blaiming others for being disdainful of him if you have not learned anything there yourself. Here's your opportunity to rethink the student/ teacher relationship. I did say that Wilcocks fans would be his undoing and I mean that.

[meeradas]

removed provocation

[recommend sweat house session instead]

[9eagle9]

Exactly. My chart is not WHO I AM. It expresses points of weaknesses and strengths. Believe me the first chart I ever read of mine I thought, Where is all this fine intuition and greatness, and were's all this selfishish. I have traits that really just mark to potential for greatness or disaster and they are attributed to certain signs..but its not who I am. My chart is all over the place. I would trust you Ulli to look at it but I'm sticking up here so I can display my 'grand mastery/ grand villiany for the masses to bicker here.

Until I took a spiritual journey I had no idea what any of that stuff meant in relation to me. I didn't see myself in there at all good bad or ugnly. And that's when I learned that nothing in there can be used as an excuse, but people can't beat me over the head with Astrology and then when it point out an attribute that doesn't support their world view get in a bundle about it. It's THEIR chosen craft after all.

If we want to work within the frame work of Astrology I'm fine with that, but we can't stick it out there to emphasize our world view and opinions and then retract it again when it doesn't make the point we are demonsrating.

What I'm saying is Astrology may say I'm a bad guy, but we can't just snatch it back and close our eyes when it says I'm a good guy too.



He he...There you go.

When that chart reveals that I'm not the just the bad boy and the stealer of free will,....

There's two choices to be made.

Astrology may be wrong...

or

Astrology may be correct .


Charts don't reveal good or bad behavior.
All 12 signs have produced saints as well as serial killers.

My point was to show the tendency of a sign, dependent on a person's spiritual development.

Signs can be recognized via keywords.

Openness: Aquarius comes to mind, but also curiosity.
Courage: Aries comes to mind, but also recklessness.
Dignity: Leo comes to mind, but also pompousness.
Analysis: Virgo comes to mind, but also petty criticism.
Discreetness: Scorpio comes to mind, but also secrecy and cover-up.
Libra: Beauty comes to mind but also frivolity.
etc.
Just a few examples.

people say "I'm Taurus...is that good or bad?"
and I have to inform them that the sign just IS...the person just IS...
as good and bad are such relative terms.
Which I always go on about context and consequence.

[modwiz]

And people always forget my Aries cusp at times like this. Aries rules the head and intellect and of course the lock horns...Although brash and hot headed it does allow my floormat Pisces side to bring intuition and not back down from it because someone has been served bread instead of cupcakes.




i was completely willing to let it all go 9eagle, but then you accused us all of being reincarnated unicorns, and...well...that's just unforgivable. :p

I must apologize on behalf of 9eagle9 as she has this tendency to exaggerate.
Pisces is in part ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is an OTT gas giant.
Nothing but hot air.

Most men are NOT reincarnated unicorns, most men were termites, or worker ants in their past lives.
Their work patterns persit to this day.

But I must say, of all the men I have met, those who were unicorns in a past life were the sweetest souls.

No, I forget your Pisces cusp. Aries is very much present.

[ViralSpiral]

No we're not communicating. Your throwing beliefs and roles at me and you revealing that everything that you made such deal out of....you don't even respect yourself.




Ahem.....

9, I've learnt a lot. Thank you.
Could you please let go of the reigns just a leeeeeeedle?

Much appreciated


/me scuttles off with pail and axe......


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[Lisab]

Nos da. That's welsh for goodnight.

[9eagle9]

We don't like the answers....quit asking the questions.






No we're not communicating. Your throwing beliefs and roles at me and you revealing that everything that you made such deal out of....you don't even respect yourself.




Ahem.....

9, I've learnt a lot. Thank you.
Could you please let go of the reigns just a leeeeeeedle?

Much appreciated


/me scuttles off with pail and axe......


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[ViralSpiral]

*raises eyebrows*

oh, okay then




I we don't like the answers....quit asking the questions.






No we're not communicating. Your throwing beliefs and roles at me and you revealing that everything that you made such deal out of....you don't even respect yourself.




Ahem.....

9, I've learnt a lot. Thank you.
Could you please let go of the reigns just a leeeeeeedle?

Much appreciated


/me scuttles off with pail and axe......


http://www.mountainvalleycenter.com/images/Chop-Wood-T-Shirt-%288302%29.png

[ulli]

@ 9eagle9

I'm a bit confused here.
Are you saying you feel misunderstood?
By whom, by Calz?
By me?
Or maybe you feel in some way mistreated?
I was hoping you were enjoying the discourses, but maybe not, if as you say you are here "for the masses to bicker at".
I can't say that I have seen any evidence of that being the case.

I don't think I ever claimed that Astrology can nail a person, only explain a person's specific behavior at a specific time.
It's a language, at the least, and a divine mystery at the most...if one can even box it in like that.

[meeradas]

:director: GOOD NIGHT!

from here, too

[dan33]

Let me embed this video from TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. directed by William Friedkin. The music is by Wang Chung. How an Artist make Money, or manufactures money.
This film was one of the top thrillers of the nineties... or may be the top..... anyway, a classic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q6VsR_4PuQ

[ulli]

Sorry 9eagle9, that was totally out of order.
Do you mind?
If you behave like that you are going to have to put up with more than the imagined bickering you were referring to.

The Village Gate is the place that scape goats leave through, but since this Village doesn't drive them out it is a voluntary act.




We don't like the answers....quit asking the questions.






No we're not communicating. Your throwing beliefs and roles at me and you revealing that everything that you made such deal out of....you don't even respect yourself.




Ahem.....

9, I've learnt a lot. Thank you.
Could you please let go of the reigns just a leeeeeeedle?

Much appreciated


/me scuttles off with pail and axe......


http://www.mountainvalleycenter.com/images/Chop-Wood-T-Shirt-%288302%29.png

[Black Panther]

:director: GOOD NIGHT!

from here, too

Don't you scream at me boy!! :P

[9eagle9]

No no I'm not mistunderstood. Cal's suggestion I put Aries away and let Pisces come forward is what I'm commenting on. Which just means it gives Aries more to see to comment on. (smile)

It's not like I can pick one or the other to bring forward, like my personality is going to change if I put Aries away and bring forward Pisces like I'm playing with action figures.

Yes I'm very much enjoying the discourse...

I don't enjoy having Cal demand answers from me and someone else pop up to tell me I should rein it in when I answer them.

But that is easily solved.

Cal next time you ask me to elborate on something run it by Viral first to keep the fires down.


I'm a bit confused here.
Are you saying you feel misunderstood?
By whom, by Calz?
By me?
Or maybe you feel in some way mistreated?
I was hoping you were enjoying the discourses, but maybe not, if as you say you are here "for the masses to bicker at".
I can't say that I have seen any evidence of that being the case.

I don't think I ever claimed that Astrology can nail a person, only explain a person's specific behavior at a specific time.
It's a language, at the least, and a divine mystery at the most...if one can even box it in like that.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

It is not out of order. I have Cal demanding elaboration from me and Viral asking me to rein it in.

Which one is it going to be?

[Carmody]

How about both of you putting down sticks and stop the poking at each others blind spots?

It is a full moon and all.....

edit: The more often I admit I'm wrong (in some manner or way) and I'll admit I'm wrong in intruding here (with incorrect conclusions and premise, I'm sure)..then I can clear myself and look to be correct again. But until I reset with the acknowledgement of a misstep, then I'll not progress any further.

In this case, it appears, on the surface...to me, to be... a case of mutual acceptance of further provocation in some manner or another.

[ulli]

I had totally missed this post.
Wait a minute, this is a POST??

Now I know what Calz meant by "less is more".
It's about style in the Here and Now, not more preaching.
If you don't want to walk out of the village gate at least go and sit at the back of the class room, teacher, preacher, leader, my ass.
The best example you might use to teach others is a minute of silence.









Yes I understand free will.


People misunderstanding what free will entails is part of the problem.

People are making choices that are hurting them, and then blaming others for staying in that choice, instead of just getting out of the agreement they've made. That's not free will.


The point is. Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work.

That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

If someone is reacting to wounds ....they don't have free will. We don't know what free will is til we heal ourselves. If we are in states of auto-hypnosis....we don't have free will.

Free will only comes after we're healed.




Okay ... now we are communicating ... yes even Pisces to Libra (hey remember my mother was Pisces and I loved her to death ... at least until I grew up :haha: (just kidding ... I loved her afterwards as well).)



That's not victimhood;that's not getting sucked into someone elses drama. You can impose any role you want on me but...I don't have to agree to it.

Not imposing anything. Goes with the Pisces territory. If you want to pound your chest and point to a planet with an orb approaching Aries ... then it seems you would also recognize the Pisces aspects as well??? Or shall we all pick and chose?

No we're not communicating. Your throwing beliefs and roles at me and you revealing that everything that you made such deal out of....you don't even respect yourself. Such something to rally around.

Okay my Pisces lets me know I know what I'm doing. No chest pounding necessary . No uncertainty here, I trust my intuition more than other people's 'facts'. It's never failed me. Not once has it ever failed me. Roles fail, true intution does not. Bull**** meter and role playing meter are all included. My intuition is not a role, it's something we all have.

How does:


Do what ever you want but don't do it at my expense. That's my free will at work

apply to Ishtar???

Care to reverse "roles" (you will need to upon your "life review" and I know you know that).


Yep same thing. Someone assumed a role and the role collapsed before a few questions that the real article could have handled very adeptly. I have repeated this dozens of time. What part of role playing do you NOT understand? I didn't hold a gun to her head--she chose that role and it collapsed on her by being offered a few questions the real deal could have coped with easily.

I know what the real deal is...they don't fall apart when you ask them "What is the point here?" Someone assumes a role, it breaks down after five minutes..and that's my fault how? Did I teach them to play the role. Did I encourage them? No. .


Pisces lets me trust what I'm seeing. Arie's gives me the fortitude to say "No, I don't think you're blaming me for the role that YOU chose. My Aries is more about intellectual nimbleness not leading. Arie's rules the head.

I'm good at what I do, I know what i'm seeing. That's my Pisces. Not just my Pisces, it's my Neptune In Scorpio too. .


When one spends hours a day in self reflection and healing wounds that IS THE LIFE REVIEW.

People who are actually attempting to transform themselves look at their life, forwards, backwards and present--- everyday of their life. They don't wait till their dead. What do you think Astrology is for?To help us know WHO we are ....or to let us know what may be preventing us from knowing who we are.

Your throwing roles and beleif systems at me. That is not WHO YOU ARE.



Free will only comes after we're healed.


Interesting statement.

Call me stupid (shut up modwiz :croc: ) but I don't understand that.

Can you elaborate?

It's in David Wilcock's material. Why don't you know? And after extolling your concern for him and challenging me that I dind't read his material you are actually asking me to elborate on what you should have learned from his material. Or didn't he cover what auto hypnosis is? Because you'd know the difference between therapeutic hypnosis and auto hypnosis . Or ...didn't you understand? You're the one said you couldn't be hypnotised but everyone goes into a hypnotic state daily. Like when they are driving. When we automatically stop for a stop sign, we are in state of auto hypnosis.

Our auto hypnosis is based on conditions placed in us beyond conscious recall. We keep reacting to those conditions until the time comes that they are removed (healed). That's not free will. Reacting, knee jerking to our emotions, being driven by our emotional conditions. Until the time those conditions are removed we are not operating under our own volition but our behaviors and our ourbursts are a result of emotional conditions . Subconcious suggestions from the past. We are simply re-acting-out a suggestion that has been put in us. That's not free will.

Now do you understand?

I understand you've basically just let me know that you aren't as much of a admirer of Wilcock as all this angst merits. So what gives with that?

What was that saying about teachers learning from students?

Students have a willingness to be shown, not told . They're not just 'fans' and adherents. What they are learning is being expressed through them so the teacher can see themselves in the student. ]

If you want to join the village then do so ... as a member and as an equal.

I'm not creating myself as anything more or anything less than what I already am.. I already know you can beat yourself up more than I can...auto hypnosis. Quit imposing roles on me and you won't t have any cause for conflict.


Humanity has had enough of leaders.

Humanity has had enough role players that pose as leaders. We lack good leaders who know that leading is by example. Not telling people a bunch of gobbedly gook. Well if Wilcock has shown anyone anything its that. Leaders don't lead by leading..they lead by example. By showing. By expressing the fruits of their labors through them...and the students. Not leading people by the nose but expressing by what they themselves have learned. You claim to be a admirer of Wilcock, a fan. i can't really see you as a student since it appears you've not been shown anything by him. I've read his material and see all sorts of good information about auto hypnosis and conditioning . But I'm not the one who is banging the Wilcock pan....you are. So ...uh.....why don't you know this? What is all this wallowing about Wilcocks and blaiming others for being disdainful of him if you have not learned anything there yourself. Here's your opportunity to rethink the student/ teacher relationship. I did say that Wilcocks fans would be his undoing and I mean that.

[ulli]

:director: GOOD NIGHT!

from here, too

Don't you scream at me boy!! :P


Meeradas is allowed to scream, and so are you. Your credit ratings are still high.
Anyway, how else would anyone hear him, what with the noise level recently.

[9eagle9]

I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

[ulli]

No no I'm not mistunderstood. Cal's suggestion I put Aries away and let Pisces come forward is what I'm commenting on. Which just means it gives Aries more to see to comment on. (smile)

It's not like I can pick one or the other to bring forward, like my personality is going to change if I put Aries away and bring forward Pisces like I'm playing with action figures.

Yes I'm very much enjoying the discourse...

I don't enjoy having Cal demand answers from me and someone else pop up to tell me I should rein it in when I answer them.

But that is easily solved.

Cal next time you ask me to elborate on something run it by Viral first to keep the fires down.


I'm a bit confused here.
Are you saying you feel misunderstood?
By whom, by Calz?
By me?
Or maybe you feel in some way mistreated?
I was hoping you were enjoying the discourses, but maybe not, if as you say you are here "for the masses to bicker at".
I can't say that I have seen any evidence of that being the case.

I don't think I ever claimed that Astrology can nail a person, only explain a person's specific behavior at a specific time.
It's a language, at the least, and a divine mystery at the most...if one can even box it in like that.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

It is not out of order. I have Cal demanding elaboration from me and Viral asking me to rein it in.

Which one is it going to be?

I'm sure the elaboration Calz had in mind was meant to bring forth your finest quality, not RED ink QUANTITY.
That's a risk he took.
But you are in a Village here, a GROUP, and anyone can chip in. They are free, even though they haven't taken up half the amount of space you have.
But then again, you are an outdoor girl, so we are making allowances for that, too.

[ViralSpiral]

I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?

[ulli]

I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.



Good girl!!!!
Now one more tiny, tiny, tiny favor.
Can we forget for one minute about OTHERS and PEOPLE and THE MASSES
and just be a baby eagle in the safety of the big nest?

[Ernie Nemeth]

Here and now.

Did some work on outside lighting for the inlaws, took my little lady along, of course. Had a deliteful afternoon. Really like her dad, the old coot. Now, there's a guy who marches to the beat of his own drummer. I think he may have been a worker bee. Maybe a termite, he is handy with a saw. hehe

[9eagle9]

Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?

[ViralSpiral]

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[1inMany]

oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**

[ulli]

Let me embed this video from TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. directed by William Friedkin. The music is by Wang Chung. How an Artist make Money, or manufactures money.
This film was one of the top thrillers of the nineties... or may be the top..... anyway, a classic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q6VsR_4PuQ



That's what we all should be doing instead of watching Calz battling with 9eagles.

Anyway, we are rich beyond belief, the Village Barn is full of back-up cash. Any Villager in Good Standing can come and help themselves.

[ViralSpiral]

Just saw this video that The One posted. I thought I was having problems.....


6cV4FCwtTEo


Now, I am going to find a big rock and throw it at the moon

Good night Sleep Hollow http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/snort-sleep-smiley.gif?1292867676

[ulli]

Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?


much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.


There is a rule about posting in CAPS...
and even though red ink is allowed, it is still a bit too loud.

Where once we had gender discussions, it may now have shifted towards culture....and there are subtle differences.

[Eagle]

A little Humor maybe?
A man was walking down the street when he was approached by a particularly dirty and shabby-looking homeless man who asked him for a couple of dollars for dinner.

The man took out his wallet, extracted ten dollars and asked, "If I give you this money, will you buy some beer with it instead of dinner?"

"No, I had to stop drinking years ago," the homeless man replied.

"Will you use it to go fishing instead of buying food?" the man asked.

"No, I don't waste time fishing," the homeless man said. "I need to spend all my time trying to stay alive."

"Will you spend this on greens' fees at a golf course instead of food?" the man asked.

"Are you NUTS!" replied the homeless man. "I haven't played golf in 20 years!"

"Will you spend the money on a woman in the red light district instead of food?" the man asked.

"What disease would I get for ten lousy bucks?" exclaimed the homeless man.

"Well," said the man, "I'm not going to give you the money. Instead, I'm going to take you home for a terrific dinner cooked by my wife."

The homeless man was astounded. "Won't your wife be furious with you for doing that? I know I'm dirty and I probably smell pretty disgusting."

The man replied, "That's okay. It's important for her to see what a man looks like after he has given up beer, fishing, golf and sex."

[ViralSpiral]

Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?


much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.

My bad, apologies again. Scorpions in da hooooooooouse!

[trenairio]

I hope the Iran War doesn't occur. Please God stop this international tension and propaganda.

[ulli]

oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**

YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N


P.S.
1inMany, you KNOW I'm only teasing you......
not expecting you to run out and buy boxing gloves...
some have to stay outside the arena and prepare the ammu.....

[eaglespirit]

Wow...busybee day here and now.
and my turn...
have chosen not to interject all along as it was not a need but now I will heed.

I have veterinarian/former-horse-jockey friend that is soooo strong-minded in the extreme and a self-starter and self-sustainer and an arduous hard worker beyond the beyond of over-taxing herself and energies...it is what she is.
Relentless is a good label, on herself and others when they are in her arena of tasks. She juggles more goals, immediate and long term than most people could even comprehend never mind put into action.
She is never wrong even when she is wrong she is never wrong.
We are good friends. I admire her like no other person in my life because there is no other like her. We have many similarities but it is the differences that come into play...she MUST get the last word, always, always, always even if it simply being an antagonizing and snide minute final word...she has to close it.
She is giving and good hearted but has an intenseness in areas that scares the sh*t out of many people...and she knows it, fully.
She did her best to 'monitor' her intense actions and reactions while I was around because she was grateful for the help that I was giving at her ranch.
And I could set her off with one word but did my best to allow the situations to just wane many, many, many times.
Her closer friends would pull me aside and say it is so good that you are with her...you're going to be around a while, aren't you?
Soooo she is what she is...as we each are...in all our glory and the lesser of it too.

Her very close friends simply saw a 'concession' in her rhythm that they had not experienced...and they liked it.

...and this will probably be the only 2 cents I'll offer in the here and now of this prompting.

[Eagle]

Wow...busybee day here and now.
and my turn...
have chosen not to interject all along as it was not a need but now I will heed.

I have veterinarian/former-horse-jockey friend that is soooo strong-minded in the extreme and a self-starter and self-sustainer and an arduous hard worker beyond the beyond of over-taxing herself and energies...it is what she is.
Relentless is a good label, on herself and others when they are in her arena of tasks. She juggles more goals, immediate and long term than most people could even comprehend never mind put into action.
She is never wrong even when she is wrong she is never wrong.
We are good friends. I admire her like no other person in my life because there is no other like her. We have many similarities but it is the differences that come into play...she MUST get the last word, always, always, always even if it simply being an antagonizing and snide minute final word...she has to close it.
She is giving and good hearted but has an intenseness in areas that scares the sh*t out of many people...and she knows it, fully.
She did her best to 'monitor' her intense actions and reactions while I was around because she was grateful for the help that I was giving at her ranch.
And I could set her off with one word but did my best to allow the situations to just wane many, many, many times.
Her closer friends would pull me aside and say it is so good that you are with her...you're going to be around a while, aren't you?
Soooo she is what she is...as we each are...in all our glory and the lesser of it too.

Her very close friends simply saw a 'concession' in her rhythm that they had not experienced...and they liked it.

...and this will probably be the only 2 cents I'll offer in the here and now of this prompting.

Wow what alot of Eagles flying around!

[modwiz]

Good job Ulli. Thread management is an art you do well. What is the cyber equivalent of biting ones tongue? Gluing one fingers? As a man who is a bachelor hiding in a marriage, it was respect for the peace of the village that stayed my hand on a few remarks. I am glad for it. I can be a smart ass and it was good to decide to not go there.

Although I occasionally forget to put down the toilet seat I mostly remember. Now if some would occasionally remember to stop yakking.......:sarcastic::no::lalala:

A broad (so only partially correct) gender comment. No one singled out here.

[Eagle]

I have only one more word to say to my Eagle brothers and sisters before I fly off.
"Trunk Monkey" and with that I bid you good eve!

[9eagle9]

That is my style Ulli I can't put a lot of soft stuff in my communications because because of reasons I mentioned repeatedly. Trust me when I say I do that to keep other people safe.

But I will take full responsiblity for this kerfluffle.

I should know better.

I take people at face value...still.

And I shouldn't.

I should have even known about the red ink thing because I once had a boss who would lose her mind when I wrote in red ink . She said she felt like when I used it I was criticizing her.

This is entirely my doing...I know better and I know I know better. .I know that when people say they have read this book, and the work of this person, and studied under that person, and have read this and this and this and that.

I know this often enough doesn't meant they understand the concepts in the works and people they studied with and applied them in a comprehensive way to themselves. I know this but I fall for and into my face value trap everytime.

So when I walk into that "I 'm taking that at face value and expecting to find what they claim behind that face...."and it's not there. I've crossed a boudnary. I've EXPECTED to find something that's not there and I start tearing the house apart looking for it. You said it was here, where's it at???
'
I don't mean to but...on the other hand I KNOW this...its autohypnosis all on it's own.....and really I know after all this time, I should know better.

This is a lesson that I simply have a very hard time learning. But that's my crap. And that doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer for it.

My apologies to everyone for not keeping that to mind.

And please remind me of that when I sound diatriable, if you would. I can't do anything about the writing style, that is to keep other's safe, but I can stop walking into this face value trap I create for myself again and again.




Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?


much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.


There is a rule about posting in CAPS...
and even though red ink is allowed, it is still a bit too loud.

Where once we had gender discussions, it may now have shifted towards culture....and there are subtle differences.

[modwiz]

That is my style Ulli I can't put a lot of soft stuff in my communications because because of reasons I mentioned repeatedly. Trust me when I say I do that to keep other people safe.

But I will take full responsiblity for this kerfluffle.

I should know better.

I take people at face value...still.

And I shouldn't.

I should have even known about red ink thing because I once had a boss who would lose her mind when I wrote in red ink . She said she felt like when I used it I was criticizing her.

This is entirely my doing...I know better and I know I know better. .I know that when people say they have read this book, and the work of this person, and studied under that person, and have read this and this and this and that.

I know this often enough doesn't meant they understand the concepts in the works and people they studied with and applied them in a comprehensive way to themselves. I know this but I fall forinto my face vlaue trape everytime.

So when I walk into that "I 'm taking that at face value and expecting to find what they claim behind that face...."and it's not there. I've crossed a boudnary. I've EXPECTED to find something that's not there
'
I don't mean to but. I KNOW this...its autohypnosis all on it's own.....and really I know after all this time, I should know better.

This is a lesson that I simply have a very hard time learning. But that's my crap. And that doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer for it.

My apologies to everyone for not keeping that to mind.

And please remind me of that when I sound diatriable, if you would. I can't do anything about the writing style, that is to keep other's safe, but I can stop walking into this face value trap I create for myself again and again.




Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?


much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.


There is a rule about posting in CAPS...
and even though red ink is allowed, it is still a bit too loud.

Where once we had gender discussions, it may now have shifted towards culture....and there are subtle differences.

It is pretty farging boring 'out there' (general forum) lately, isn't it?

This is not to suggest that it has anything to do with Lord Sid's departure. :no:

[meeradas]

oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**
YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N

That's a very sensitive soul here, Ulli...

1iM,
if you can't take it, be crystal for a while -
strongly imagine being an immaculate quartz,
all energies will just pass thru, you remain unaffected.

Saved my physical well-being once. Works.


I hope the Iran War doesn't occur. Please God stop this international tension and propaganda.

I am completely with you on this one.
As is Mother, as i get it.


(...) back-up cash. Any Villager in Good Standing can come and help themselves.

Ulli, i'm reluctant to admit it,
but the purplish-white handful
on top of the first row on the left would suffice for now...

*back to sleep!*

PS: I just love geese.

PPS: 9, i'm offering you a free hug.

[ulli]

Very glad you know how to get out of a tail spin.
For your sake.
Remembering your own lessons is the way to go...once each and everyone can keep that in mind, and know their own mandate,
then all's well that ends well.

Then all PEOPLE are just mirrors, which are there to show us the as yet unrevealed aspects of ourselves...
and all interaction becomes a win-win situation.

I'm grateful to everyone for being Here and Now....your energy is increasing with each day as the mirrors are reflecting more and more light.
Just keep on polishing.....






That is my style Ulli I can't put a lot of soft stuff in my communications because because of reasons I mentioned repeatedly. Trust me when I say I do that to keep other people safe.

But I will take full responsiblity for this kerfluffle.

I should know better.

I take people at face value...still.

And I shouldn't.

I should have even known about the red ink thing because I once had a boss who would lose her mind when I wrote in red ink . She said she felt like when I used it I was criticizing her.

This is entirely my doing...I know better and I know I know better. .I know that when people say they have read this book, and the work of this person, and studied under that person, and have read this and this and this and that.

I know this often enough doesn't meant they understand the concepts in the works and people they studied with and applied them in a comprehensive way to themselves. I know this but I fall for and into my face value trap everytime.

So when I walk into that "I 'm taking that at face value and expecting to find what they claim behind that face...."and it's not there. I've crossed a boudnary. I've EXPECTED to find something that's not there and I start tearing the house apart looking for it. You said it was here, where's it at???
'
I don't mean to but...on the other hand I KNOW this...its autohypnosis all on it's own.....and really I know after all this time, I should know better.

This is a lesson that I simply have a very hard time learning. But that's my crap. And that doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer for it.

My apologies to everyone for not keeping that to mind.

And please remind me of that when I sound diatriable, if you would. I can't do anything about the writing style, that is to keep other's safe, but I can stop walking into this face value trap I create for myself again and again.




Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?


much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.


There is a rule about posting in CAPS...
and even though red ink is allowed, it is still a bit too loud.

Where once we had gender discussions, it may now have shifted towards culture....and there are subtle differences.

[ulli]

I hope the Iran War doesn't occur. Please God stop this international tension and propaganda. Ahmadinejad your recent outreach in Latin America is welcomed.

It von't. Vee haf vays and meanz to stop it.

[1inMany]

YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N

You....my dear....are awesome :)

meeradas...
1iM,
if you can't take it, be crystal for a while -
strongly imagine being an immaculate quartz,
all energies will just pass thru, you remain unaffected.

Saved my physical well-being once. Works.

I hadn't thought of that - wow! :)

[Belle]

oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**

YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N

I think people may not take kindly to rolling up their sleeves for all the poking that has gone on around here for fear they may be next.

Learned a lesson about people a long time ago when working with someone. She was a control freak who stepped on a lot of toes and hurt a lot of people in the process...something she never noticed. I spoke with my boss about G. and her response was, 'oh, that's just G.' No judgment, just that's the way she is. Now I could have chosen to make a big deal over it and created all kinds of havoc, arguments and hurt feelings. Instead I chose to accept G for being G and ignored the posturing and posing. Once I got past the annoying part, she became a friend and soon I found myself telling someone else, 'oh, that's just G.'

And 9eagle9 is just...well...just 9eagle9. She is what she is and does what she does. There's a lot of information worth thinking about in what she says...how she says it is her choice. How one responds or not is their personal choice.

[Cottage Rose]

:decision: = @ Triola In Lourdes loop + :pop2: :tape:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2H_qg01xY&feature=youtu.be

[ulli]

oh..........my................gawwwwdddd............ **sigh**

YOU get back here at once!!!! No sighing, groaning, crying, wailing allowed.
Roll up yer sleeves and join in the F U N

I think people may not take kindly to rolling up their sleeves for all the poking that has gone on around here for fear they may be next.

Learned a lesson about people a long time ago when working with someone. She was a control freak who stepped on a lot of toes and hurt a lot of people in the process...something she never noticed. I spoke with my boss about G. and her response was, 'oh, that's just G.' No judgment, just that's the way she is. Now I could have chosen to make a big deal over it and created all kinds of havoc, arguments and hurt feelings. Instead I chose to accept G for being G and ignored the posturing and posing. Once I got past the annoying part, she became a friend and soon I found myself telling someone else, 'oh, that's just G.'

And 9eagle9 is just...well...just 9eagle9. She is what she is and does what she does. There's a lot of information worth thinking about in what she says...how she says it is her choice. How one responds or not is their personal choice.

Good observation. Once one can say 'Oh, that's just so and so', it means one has moved past the point where one can have one's buttons pressed.

I've always been curious about people and what motivates them. Finally I learnt that more important than other people's motives is understanding my own.
That meant defining my own agenda in life.
Why am I here, spending so much time on this forum?
When I started to examine my own motives I found that there are quite a few layers, as well as surprises.
9eagle9 demonstrated today that we can really never quite know WHO we really are.
I could resonate with that, as my own journey is still not finished.
I am finding that as this thread grows so is my attachment to it, and my concern to keeping it alive and well.
That means when there is a sudden energy change that causes several members to drop away I want to know where such an energy is coming from and will question the person who is channeling it. What are their motives? Part of me becomes paranoid and says they want to destroy this thread.
Then I remember I could be projecting that from my lower self.
I consciously switch to give the person the benefit of the doubt.
And halfway through there is another energy change...back towards harmony.
So you are right about pointing out the importance of personal choice.
I thank you for that.
From moment to moment we are making choices.

[Cottage Rose]

Good observation. Once one can say 'Oh, that's just so and so', it means one has moved past the point where one can have one's buttons pressed.

I've always been curious about people and what motivates them. Finally I learnt that more important than other people's motives is understanding my own.
That meant defining my own agenda in life.
Why am I here, spending so much time on this forum?
When I started to examine my own motives I found that there are quite a few layers, as well as surprises.
9eagle9 demonstrated today that we can really never quite know WHO we really are.
I could resonate with that, as my own journey is still not finished.
I am finding that as this thread grows so is my attachment to it, and my concern to keeping it alive and well.
That means when there is a sudden energy change that causes several members to drop away I want to know where such an energy is coming from and will question the person who is channeling it. What are their motives? Part of me becomes paranoid and says they want to destroy this thread.
Then I remember I could be projecting that from my lower self.
I consciously switch to give the person the benefit of the doubt.
And halfway through there is another energy change...back towards harmony.
So you are right about pointing out the importance of personal choice.
I thank you for that.
From moment to moment we are making choices.

Your handling of this thread is impeccable, Ulli.

[9eagle9]

Well I will tell you what. I had this response in mind to EagleSpirt which about his jockey friend. Maybe it shows a point of motivation ..but also expression.

To Eagle Spirit.

Thank you for sharing that. I don’t often hear stories about the horse kin. She sounds like a typical horse person, totem, energy and literally. Not that there are vast amounts of them to be regarded as typical but…A lot of women that involve themselves in the dangerous end of horses (not the back end…yeee) were Amazons in a past life. And all that that implies. They don’t suffer fools very easily.
Because..you can’t be a fool around a horse.

Because it’s not a desk job, or academic or a job where you can correct the mess when your attention lapses. Very spiritual though--will to power.

It’s a medium that will kill you if you are not very present.

A horse can kill you, damage people around you, and itself in aheartbeat. Much horse work is invested in keeping other's safe .A lot of internal fortitude is required. If you meet a horse person and they are alive and relatively unscathed those are persons who know what they are doing. Jockeys are all about Self management. They are tested constantly, they have tremendous inner will because physical size doesn’t cut it with a horse.

They reflect the medium they work in. Powerful, unconditioned, challenging--challenged, free, intense, and a horse always gets the last word one way or the other. They are forgiving animals with big generous hearts –especially thoroughbreds but Intense ,intense energies. But they test and test and test and challenge and that is what tempers the rider. Those challenges. I would have loved to known if she was fire horse in Chinese astrology.

Blunt, direct. You don't time to write flowery love calls when a horse is spinning it's hindquarters into you. "Oh please my dear, I dont want to hurt your feelings but that horse is about to trample you."

And …sometimes people bore them . After that sort of raw intensity and power that one is naviagating...people are sorta tame. So they rattle the cage to see what’s inside. Do you think they will find that inside a person?

They do --so why isn't the person showing it. They start challenging it to come out. If you are ignored by a horse person...it means they don't see that potential for power in you.

People may not know this anymore because we have don’t have associations with horses like we did before automobiles and trains came along. Where they weren’t casual pets but you worked together with them day in and out. Jockeying isn't a common profession. It doesn't form 'common' people.

They have to be that way to work in that medium. A horse will not accept anything less, especially a eventing horse. Especially race horses. Their lives depend on that sort of person navigating them. It’s not a program, that can be re-booted if something goes wrong. You have to make instant, controlled power decision It becomes automatic.. Raw reality flying up in your face at 40 miles an hour and the only thing that keeps you there is your balance. You’re literally flying on a horse dangling by the balls of your feet. And that’s it. Balance .They have to balanced . And they are --on and off the ground.

That takes a person of a rare character. Everytime I jump up on a off track horse, I think of a jockey . Their heart has to match the power of the horse. Their mind has to be as quick as those feet. And be aware always aware of people who don’t have that sort of power (their radar) that is in their sphere. The bystander can get hurt.

For myself I know how many times a day I have to say to someone, Do not stand behnd that horse.

Of course I’m just being mean. After saying it dozen times I'm sure I sound mean.

Why am I saying it?

Horse people don’t suffer fools very gracefully.

Like horses they have a hard time seeing the social conditioning in others, the lack of being present, and don’t feel the need to accommodate it. They don't see it. You don’t accommodate an animal that big--two wills have to be evenly matched. Blend powers. A person walks from the horse expecting everyone is powerful and can take that intensity .In spite of it all a horse enjoys that battle of the wills. The jockey has to enjoy it too.

It’s not personal. You can't make it personal with a horse, they'll walk all over you.

Horses don’t hurt people because of personal reasons.

It’s an impersonal universe.

Horses know that.

[Cottage Rose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjuNMcC_o0

[modwiz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjuNMcC_o0

LOL. Hiss! Meow!

[9eagle9]

Its a means to seperate my text from the quoted text....being aware of this red ink button I'll choose another color next time.

I feel okay, shifting energies are just what's happening now.




Really? It was the red ink that was upsetting?

Is there something I missing here in regards to here and now and red ink posts?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Apology accepted.

Do you feel better now Ulli?



I can do that. I can do what others won't ask themselves.

Okay, so I'll apologize for intruding in your diatribe

Do you feel better?


much better....not too happy about that "diatribe" label...
as I said...S T Y L E
once people meet on the internet, everything becomes a question of style.


There is a rule about posting in CAPS...
and even though red ink is allowed, it is still a bit too loud.

Where once we had gender discussions, it may now have shifted towards culture....and there are subtle differences.

[ulli]

Its a means to seperate my text from the quoted text....being aware of this red ink button I'll choose another color next time.

I feel okay, shifting energies are just what's happening now.









I agree..the thought occurred to me as well.
Purple would have been a better choice.
Red makes "people" see red.
Then you feel the estrangement and become aware of people as "others", or "them".

Glad you felt the energy shift, too.

[modwiz]

It is a very good and adult village here. Happy to be a regular part of it. Pardon me while I tidy up a bit.
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(I love this gif)

[Guest]

This thread moves so fast.

Made a fresh squash soup today put lots of goodies in it -yummy.

Have a very hot fire burning in the wood stove.

Watching the moon rise behind the mountains on a very clear night.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[Mysticknowflake]

I am sitting on my sofa, lap top in my lap. It is 10:29 as I type this. I am on the verge of yawning, LOL tired, been up since 6 am.

[benevolentcrow]

Warm cozy fire burning here with a cabbage, mushroom, onion, zucchini with tofu over wild rice, life is pleasant in our Cozinest Hollow!

[Guest]

When I was 3 years old I almost drown. My neighbors had a pool and one day I went through the side gate of their backyard. I was playing and running around the pool slipped and fell into it. I remember fighting for breath and sinking and slipping away the next moment someone grabbed my arm and pulled me to the surface. I was deathly afraid of water and pools until I learned to swim -then no-one could keep me away from water. I made it my own science out of watching water -going to the beach and sitting on the shores watching the waves, tides, currents, riptides and the directions of winds.

My house burned down when I was 7 years old. I narrowly escaped that too. The firemen couldn't put the fire out because it was too hot and the winds were too high -they let it burn to the ground.

During the San Diego County fire storm of 2007, just when it started I was up at some friends house in San Bernadino County for a visit. I didn't know a large brush fire had started -I looked at my friends and said, "Time for me to go, I need to go home." Just as I drove into North County, many of the hills were on fire -I thought here we go again another fire storm. I raced home before they closed the freeways and roads. The fire raged on for 4 or 5 days thousands were evacuated -where I lived we were on voluntary evac. I had my 90 year old Grandmother and did not want to evacuate her; she was fragile and moving her into another envirronment might have caused her harm. If the winds blowing around (40-50 miles an hour) didn't change direction (they were blowing due west), we were going to have to leave. So I would check the direction of the wind every few minutes; after about a half hour it changed direction (blowing due North) and quieted. The fire headed into an unpopulated area and burned out over night.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[Mike]

here and now nodding off and feeling a little foggy mentally.

happens to me when i spend too much time in front of a laptop. that damn electrical pollution. g'night to all.

[Carmody]

:decision: = @ Triola In Lourdes loop + :pop2: :tape:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2H_qg01xY&feature=youtu.be

B2ja2AQOgQU

"I heard you cry out, tell me, what did you encounter?"

"I had a dream, about a man. He is not from our world. He came down from the sky and spoke to me. He said, "We are from the Third Planet.""

"Go on."

He said, "We come from.... Earth."


3Seo9QPlcJM

"Kind of hard to imagine nothing. no ...thing. No.. me, no... you, no ....nothing"

[write4change]

Much of what 9 eagle says about horses I agree with but I think I have basic differences. Everything I do with horses is personal. One of the things I love about Seabiscuit is that this is the story of four broken people in a very broken time in America. And the end of the story of the story is very poignant--they did not take a broken horse and heal him but they all healed each other. Of all the famous horse stories in the world and I think I have all of them--if not, I made the effort--Seabiscuit is my favorite. Nothing about Seabiscuit is perfect--he has duck feet--he is 15.2 hands and War Admiral is 18 hands. Even watching the real race it is hard to believe my eyes. How fast Seabiscuit is churning those legs and the will power to do it. War Admiral has a stride and smoothness and stamina that should have killed Seabiscuit.

Maxx's first horse was a paint we named Picasso. She practically slept with him. She absolutely adored him. She spoiled him rotten. He loved Coke and she would pour it out of a can for him. The problem became he would come to dead halt if he saw one on the fence or something. When she started, there was nothing he would not do for her. He would hold his head up and to the side to keep her on. Her trainer Colonel Russell was the last calvary officer of horses in the United States. He took the Bronze in the 52 Olympics. He was 76 and he recognized her potential but it killed him that his last student was a girl. She rode every horse in his barn before he took her on. He gave her a lot of guff. He loathed a refuse out. He would rather you plow the horse thru. Picasso was very fast and he had perfect form. I have tons of pictures of him over jumps and his form is always perfect. But he was 15.2 and his top jump was going to be 4 feet. He would not exert himself or he knew himself so well this was it. Over 4 feet and he would just refuse out.

So we went to the Dallas track and got a horse out of a claiming race. We watched him a bunch of times. He was sired by the horse of the year 1971--can't remember the name right now. He was known for either winning like an antelope or loosing like a donkey. If you watched him he would walk into the ring before the line up and size up the other horses. It was like he know he could win so he was all out. If he thought it was not a possiblity he could not be bothered and nor matter what the jockey did would come in dead last. The owners apparently did not think anyone would claim him with such mixed results and he was not quite four years old. They put him in a 5000 claiming race and we bought him. They offered us double but this was Maxx's and my manifestation from the universe. He was all we could afford and he was young, with high potential, very intelligent and bored. He was 17.2 hands and we named him My T Maxx and Maxx called him Teddy, he was her big Teddy Bear. We sent him to Corpus Christi for six weeks of jumper training. She spent a long weekend with him learning how to ride him without Russell. It is a big step for a 12 year old to go from 15.2 to 17.2 and they are totally different types of horses--a paint a quarter horse and Teddy a thoughbred.

Maxx soon found she could not ride both of them, the change was too much for her. Picasso went wild with jealousy. Russell had three barns. First we had them next to each other Picasso practically busted the door the first time she took Teddy out and left him. We moved Teddy to the furthest barn away and tried not to let him know Maxx was riding Teddy. We leased Piccasso out to Russell's nephew who could not do much with him much to Russell's disgust. In jumping all credit goes to the horse not the rider so it proved Maxx could ride and Picasso did not just carry her. Their first major horse show, and the largest in Texas, the Christmas horse show of 94, Maxx was 12 and Teddy 3. The youngest horse and the youngest rider and they placed 8th which thrilled all of us.

That first horse show before Maxx rode him in her class, I had a professional ride him to try and tone him down. Still have the videos. Teddy rode his best for Maxx always and did not do well for the professional. It was at this show with the lights, music, and applause that Teddy got his ahah moment. You could see the light in his eyes. This is show jumping. This is what this is all about. I am not a race horse--I am a show horse and I love it.

I have seen some professional women riders with big warmbloods who can get up and over but they know that big body of theirs is coming down fast. And they so want to win and they soon learn what knocking the rail down does. I have seen these big warm bloods teach them selves to throw their hind legs side ways as they go over so as not to touch that bar. First, time I saw it I was amazed. I have been a horse handler for several Olympic events and I have strong feelings about the care and training of horses.

In the Suel Olympics, it was the first time they had a jump that was essentially a ring. It was a big surprise and there was no rules against it. But most of the horses had never trained jumping thru something with something over their head. Over 50% of the horses refused out. Most of the women made it thru because women ride by asking and it partnership. Men used strength and often spurs. Don't get me started on spurs. The horses like Teddy who are always in partnership will go okay if you say I can do this--I believe you---and they will go for it. But for those who see the horse as a machine that you press here to go--they go **** you --- I am not risking my life for you. Horse and rider in partnership get what they are risking. It is all too easy to become Christopher Reeves who had his accident that broke his neck in April of 95. My daughter died in October of 95.

I never rode English nor jumped until after Maxx's death. I had a dear friend who is much like eagle9 who taught me. We rode everyday at lunch. She was once an Olympic quality rider and went all the way but could not afford nor did she have her own horse. She also took a brutal spill and broke her collar bone among others. She had not ridden in decade when we met. She was a meticulous rider and teacher. One day she reached over whumped my hands with her crop. She said something to the effect that she was tired of telling me the same thing and my not paying real attention and putting it into practice. I am 50 years old. I am like---I have to sit with this a while. And I realized that she was the teacher I needed to learn what I wanted at that time of my life. Everyone else would have handled me with kid gloves, let me go on my crying jags, etc. But not her. It was do or do not. I would not be here today without that experience. It was tough but it was oh so worth it.

I have recognized since I first met 9eagle9, that she will always bring that quality to her community and for me I say sign me up. But my horses are personal sentient beings I share with. My friend loved them but she did not feel them like I did and do. Eagle and I would have to ride together to see how that works in reality for us. Now I do not know nor do I care. But I trust the winds of her intuition. Yet, they are her winds and I may or may not be lifted by them. I may have to find my own air current and we will soar maybe not side by side but within our sight and that is good enough.

[Lisab]

Bore da. That's welsh for good morning! Great horse stories. Loved reading that write4change. Off to work now sees y'all later! X

[ViralSpiral]

Bore da. That's welsh for good morning! Great horse stories. Loved reading that write4change. Off to work now sees y'all later! X



Bore da Lisa http://myths-and-legends.net/images/smilies/20090622_sunSmiley.gif



It's a new dawn
It's a new day
It's a new life
For me
And I'm feeling good



ZSK9kkM7GL4


Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know


I saved this one from drowning. You can see the bottom two wings still stuck to the stone. I ♥ dragonflies!

http://i44.tinypic.com/9ar9fn.jpg


Totem:- As a creature of the wind, the dragonfly totem represents change. It's iridescent wings are incredibly sensitive to the slightest breeze, and so we are reminded to heed where the proverbial wind blows.

[ViralSpiral]

"Trunk Monkey"


Had to look that up. Glad I did


The original concept of a "Trunk Monkey" was a small stuffed animal placed in the trunk of a vehicle which came alive and jumped from side to side to help distribute weight during "spirited driving maneuvers".
The Trunk Monkey is also portrayed as an effective theft deterrent, as seen in one commercial where the chimpanzee knocks out a would-be car thief and throws him off a bridge. The chimpanzee also administers first aid to the driver after an accident. In addition, its security abilities are effective during a driver's daughter's first date or an alien invasion.




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Bless you Dig!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Calz]

http://yisgood.com/humor/rofl.gif



Where do you keep coming up with stuff like that??? :)

Can't tell I am jealous ... right???


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[ViralSpiral]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-your-cat-loves-you-seriously.jpg

[astrid]

xk3BvNLeNgw

Way cool.

I'm so getting one.

[eaglespirit]

Well I will tell you what. I had this response in mind to EagleSpirt which about his jockey friend. Maybe it shows a point of motivation ..but also expression.

To Eagle Spirit.

Thank you for sharing that. I don’t often hear stories about the horse kin. She sounds like a typical horse person, totem, energy and literally. Not that there are vast amounts of them to be regarded as typical but…A lot of women that involve themselves in the dangerous end of horses (not the back end…yeee) were Amazons in a past life. And all that that implies. They don’t suffer fools very easily.
Because..you can’t be a fool around a horse.

Because it’s not a desk job, or academic or a job where you can correct the mess when your attention lapses. Very spiritual though--will to power.

It’s a medium that will kill you if you are not very present.

A horse can kill you, damage people around you, and itself in aheartbeat. Much horse work is invested in keeping other's safe .A lot of internal fortitude is required. If you meet a horse person and they are alive and relatively unscathed those are persons who know what they are doing. Jockeys are all about Self management. They are tested constantly, they have tremendous inner will because physical size doesn’t cut it with a horse.

They reflect the medium they work in. Powerful, unconditioned, challenging--challenged, free, intense, and a horse always gets the last word one way or the other. They are forgiving animals with big generous hearts –especially thoroughbreds but Intense ,intense energies. But they test and test and test and challenge and that is what tempers the rider. Those challenges. I would have loved to known if she was fire horse in Chinese astrology.

Blunt, direct. You don't time to write flowery love calls when a horse is spinning it's hindquarters into you. "Oh please my dear, I dont want to hurt your feelings but that horse is about to trample you."

And …sometimes people bore them . After that sort of raw intensity and power that one is naviagating...people are sorta tame. So they rattle the cage to see what’s inside. Do you think they will find that inside a person?

They do --so why isn't the person showing it. They start challenging it to come out. If you are ignored by a horse person...it means they don't see that potential for power in you.

People may not know this anymore because we have don’t have associations with horses like we did before automobiles and trains came along. Where they weren’t casual pets but you worked together with them day in and out. Jockeying isn't a common profession. It doesn't form 'common' people.

They have to be that way to work in that medium. A horse will not accept anything less, especially a eventing horse. Especially race horses. Their lives depend on that sort of person navigating them. It’s not a program, that can be re-booted if something goes wrong. You have to make instant, controlled power decision It becomes automatic.. Raw reality flying up in your face at 40 miles an hour and the only thing that keeps you there is your balance. You’re literally flying on a horse dangling by the balls of your feet. And that’s it. Balance .They have to balanced . And they are --on and off the ground.

That takes a person of a rare character. Everytime I jump up on a off track horse, I think of a jockey . Their heart has to match the power of the horse. Their mind has to be as quick as those feet. And be aware always aware of people who don’t have that sort of power (their radar) that is in their sphere. The bystander can get hurt.

For myself I know how many times a day I have to say to someone, Do not stand behind that horse.

Of course I’m just being mean. After saying it dozen times I'm sure I sound mean.

Why am I saying it?

Horse people don’t suffer fools very gracefully.

Like horses they have a hard time seeing the social conditioning in others, the lack of being present, and don’t feel the need to accommodate it. They don't see it. You don’t accommodate an animal that big--two wills have to be evenly matched. Blend powers. A person walks from the horse expecting everyone is powerful and can take that intensity .In spite of it all a horse enjoys that battle of the wills. The jockey has to enjoy it too.

It’s not personal. You can't make it personal with a horse, they'll walk all over you.

Horses don’t hurt people because of personal reasons.

It’s an impersonal universe.

Horses know that.

Good reply 9Eagle, thank you....
horse people that live and breathe that relationship are 'people' of a different vibrant color of fortitude.
If I really, really needed to get something done of vital personal importance to the changes taking place and I felt called to get involved and help get things done in the physical world and it was necessary to enlist some help I would call her in, in a heartbeat...and she would do what she could to help if it was in any way within her reach to do so. She is so deep down good that it is such an integral part of her she does not have to wave the slightest banner...she is the type of doctor that wants to be called by her first name.
And yes, amazon...and yes, very old soul...and yes, tough...and yes, she IS living change when something of personal/humane importance needs a powerful nudge in her life in front of her.
I have stories to fill a small library...haha : )
Love! Love! Love!

[Marianne]

Ulli, did you find your juicer?

I made more pineapple-celery juice today, a quart to drink during the morning. Will see how I feel for lunch, probably a salad. I am navigating towards a juice fast, but have to move into it slowly. Yesterday I got a detox headache around mid day and this morning I am feeling those detox emotions, old stuff left over that I didn't deal with. How appropriate that I'm doing this at the same time I'm doing shadow work. Am I looking for extra abuse, or will embracing my shadow help me? I'm so hoping it will help me.

Am calling to my Goddess for help this morning. I have to go to work and try to appear normal in the midst of churning emotions I haven't felt for a long time. I'm grateful for an office of my own with a door, mostly solitude except for my friend T who helps me as I help her, and colleagues who know I'm a bit strange already.

Love,
Marianne

[ulli]

Another sunny and cold morning. Considering this is just 10 degrees north of the equator it is surprisingly chilly.
Today have to frst check on the construction then see how my recently widowed friend is doing. Hubby is off work today so we can do everything together...which is how I like it.
Just found out that one of his patients who is 102 years old, returned from hospital feeling fully recovered.
She had problems breathing when he sent her to the hospital and I thought, considering her age, she might not come out alive. She is amazing, still dresses herself, and not the slightest sign of dementia. A Libra. I met her once, years ago. What a lady!

[ulli]

Ulli, did you find your juicer?

I made more pineapple-celery juice today, a quart to drink during the morning. Will see how I feel for lunch, probably a salad. I am navigating towards a juice fast, but have to move into it slowly. Yesterday I got a detox headache around mid day and this morning I am feeling those detox emotions, old stuff left over that I didn't deal with. How appropriate that I'm doing this at the same time I'm doing shadow work. Am I looking for extra abuse, or will embracing my shadow help me? I'm so hoping it will help me.

Am calling to my Goddess for help this morning. I have to go to work and try to appear normal in the midst of churning emotions I haven't felt for a long time. I'm grateful for an office of my own with a door, mostly solitude except for my friend T who helps me as I help her, and colleagues who know I'm a bit strange already.

Love,
Marianne

Your shadow will help you if that is your intent.
Your emotions are the fuel to drive your intent.
That is proper use of emotions.
Enthusiasm and excitement.

It sounds to me that you have some fears mixed in there...perhaps worry of what might come up during the detox.
If there are memories of unresolved issues that bug you just decide not to let them (bug you).
Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

When superfluous emotions rush in they flood our engine and we can't drive. So it's good to keep that in mind...emotions are fuel, and fuel always needs direction.
Negative emotion or anger are just energy in need of redirection.

[astrid]

I just listened to the recording of the circle i was in yesterday,
and the whole second half i have absolutely no recall of, lol.
I must have been off having my own private party.
It's a good thing its all recorded, as i missed some very interesting
dialogue. Luckily going "off" in your own world,
is not only encouraged its the aim. It's a pity i didn't
find this pathway as a kid it would have saved my
self esteem from endless batterings. But then that's
part of the initiation .

So far I'm realizing that i have most of the knowledge,
but i just never had to think about it, in order to express it.
If that makes sense. It's like when you have to go to teach
something to someone that you can do in your sleep.
In order to teach it , you have to run it through
your left brain, which is not an easy task
when something is so second nature, it becomes
intuitive.

I had that problem when i was teaching millinery.
People would ask me how i did something, and
i really had to stop and think.
In many ways studying feels like a backwards step,
but i know it will be really good for me. Even being
in a group is great training.

The trainer is quite extroverted
I'm curious what her Astro make up is, she's another horse
person funnily enough. Very social, too, i was thinking
libran, but she seems too organized, too fast at
making decisions. At first i was concerned we would
clash, but now I'm seeing that she will draw me out.
Thankfully she is very much anti- guru, and
anti - dogma.
The good thing is i will get to see where "I'm at" as
far as what i already know and what gaps i have to fill
in, being a lone wolf for so long i really have no idea.
I just do what i do.

So glad to see Omni has resurfaced i had been messaging him
the last couple of weeks, and i was worried that he had not
replied.

[Eagle]

"Trunk Monkey"


Had to look that up. Glad I did


The original concept of a "Trunk Monkey" was a small stuffed animal placed in the trunk of a vehicle which came alive and jumped from side to side to help distribute weight during "spirited driving maneuvers".
The Trunk Monkey is also portrayed as an effective theft deterrent, as seen in one commercial where the chimpanzee knocks out a would-be car thief and throws him off a bridge. The chimpanzee also administers first aid to the driver after an accident. In addition, its security abilities are effective during a driver's daughter's first date or an alien invasion.




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Bless you Dig!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot tell you how meny times I have been on the road and wish I had one. almost every time I have driven up until recently it is like going to battle, now I let myself relax a little more and enjoy the trip

[Marianne]

Ulli, did you find your juicer?

I made more pineapple-celery juice today, a quart to drink during the morning. Will see how I feel for lunch, probably a salad. I am navigating towards a juice fast, but have to move into it slowly. Yesterday I got a detox headache around mid day and this morning I am feeling those detox emotions, old stuff left over that I didn't deal with. How appropriate that I'm doing this at the same time I'm doing shadow work. Am I looking for extra abuse, or will embracing my shadow help me? I'm so hoping it will help me.

Am calling to my Goddess for help this morning. I have to go to work and try to appear normal in the midst of churning emotions I haven't felt for a long time. I'm grateful for an office of my own with a door, mostly solitude except for my friend T who helps me as I help her, and colleagues who know I'm a bit strange already.

Love,
Marianne

Your shadow will help you if that is your intent.
Your emotions are the fuel to drive your intent.
That is proper use of emotions.
Enthusiasm and excitement.

It sounds to me that you have some fears mixed in there...perhaps worry of what might come up during the detox.
If there are memories of unresolved issues that bug you just decide not to let them (bug you).
Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

When superfluous emotions rush in they flood our engine and we can't drive. So it's good to keep that in mind...emotions are fuel, and fuel always needs direction.
Negative emotion or anger are just energy in need of redirection.

Ulli, that's it, fear.
Thanks for the reminder about intent.

[Belle]

here and now nodding off and feeling a little foggy mentally.

happens to me when i spend too much time in front of a laptop. that damn electrical pollution. g'night to all.

I was gifted with a pair of Himalayan salt lamps...one near the computer and one near the laptop. I've noticed quite a difference.

[PurpleLama]

We have salt lamps in the bedroom. I highly recommend them, as well. A few pieces of black tourmaline in the pocket and around the house work wonders for em pollution, as well. Also, the orgonite I have lives in the bedroom as well. When I was having some less than positive astral visits during the charles episode, moving the orgonite to the bedroom from the top of the television where it previously lived brought the visits to an abrupt halt, and helped with the tv reception, too. The tourmaline won't actively interfere with electronic devices, at least.

[astrid]

Yes I find more and more that too much time
online makes me feel blah . Not a bad thing
means i dont get stuck on here like I used too.
I need to make sure I ground myself often so I
alternate with time in the garden and time with
my dogs . I got rid of wifi too and now am plugged
in direct with my big Mac, massive difference.
Wifi and cordless phones the worst for emfs.
I use my iPhone when in bed , like now, but
I turn off cellular data and put it onto airport mode
when I sleep, that way its much less pollution .
Noticed since fasting that my body is much more
sensitive, so I just shift things around accordingly .
But so much more balanced now . Was back drinking
coffee and milk last week and was walking up feeling
blah . So I ditched the milk and big improvement .
It was meant to be organic, but obviously not agreeing
with me . Can't get raw milk here , that I have found
yet , will keep making enquiries .

[benevolentcrow]

We have large crystals as well as Orgonite on both sides of our bed. I usually sleep like a baby! Sometimes I don't remember my head hitting the pillow! Not always the case, but this works well for me.

http://www.orgonite.info/

[9eagle9]

Good Story.

Well if she didn't see 'the way' in you she wouldn't have bothered to swat you. She wouldn't bothered much at all. They see the power place in you and wonder why you are not knowing it. Not precisely a chasticement or judgement....its a reminder.

Even in sweatlodges you may get a swat from an elder who is wondering why you aren't knowing your power. One told me one time, "You are little children who won't wake up to who you are so we smack you to remind you." And then laughed. Sorting out the personal/feelings place from the power alignment. They see that people are scrambling to remember they are but when they are reminded they collapse "Oh my feelings, my feelings are hurt".

Certainly people get taken aback but collectively humans have become very much like sissy's. It started in the 60's when peple where getting in touch with their feelings...but they weren't supposed to get stuck there.....lol. . "Oh my feelings, and oh my god I can't believe you said , and that's horrible," They think their power place is their feelings and I can't imagine why they would think that if that feeling place is hurt all the time.

So your friend seen your power place, she didn't see you as a sissy. That smack is more like "Stop thinking that's who you are, I see more." The place a horse connects to. So it must be beyond 'feelings'. beyond or behind the personality. It's closer to the surface in some than the other...your power is very close to the surface, Write4

Impersonal is more like...when a horse dashes over you to get to their food, or flip out at a ghoulie, its not because they hate you. Or don't care about you. I've seen people say that alot. Horses hate me. No know they don't. Save for the abused one, who have been fed self loathing. . Like what you said they seem to be harder themselves more often than not. That kind of not personal--like Four Agreements not-personal. Because its there even if the horse and rider don't have personalities that support that. Transcending the personal

'the way' . When I was told about the way it sent a chill through me .

Man o War is still my favorite race horse.. We have progency of Native Dancer in the barn, he looks like him and has the personality. Thoroughbreds are what interested me in the effects of consciousness and DNA.


Much of what 9 eagle says about horses I agree with but I think I have basic differences. Everything I do with horses is personal. One of the things I love about Seabiscuit is that this is the story of four broken people in a very broken time in America. And the end of the story of the story is very poignant--they did not take a broken horse and heal him but they all healed each other. Of all the famous horse stories in the world and I think I have all of them--if not, I made the effort--Seabiscuit is my favorite. Nothing about Seabiscuit is perfect--he has duck feet--he is 15.2 hands and War Admiral is 18 hands. Even watching the real race it is hard to believe my eyes. How fast Seabiscuit is churning those legs and the will power to do it. War Admiral has a stride and smoothness and stamina that should have killed Seabiscuit.

Maxx's first horse was a paint we named Picasso. She practically slept with him. She absolutely adored him. She spoiled him rotten. He loved Coke and she would pour it out of a can for him. The problem became he would come to dead halt if he saw one on the fence or something. When she started, there was nothing he would not do for her. He would hold his head up and to the side to keep her on. Her trainer Colonel Russell was the last calvary officer of horses in the United States. He took the Bronze in the 52 Olympics. He was 76 and he recognized her potential but it killed him that his last student was a girl. She rode every horse in his barn before he took her on. He gave her a lot of guff. He loathed a refuse out. He would rather you plow the horse thru. Picasso was very fast and he had perfect form. I have tons of pictures of him over jumps and his form is always perfect. But he was 15.2 and his top jump was going to be 4 feet. He would not exert himself or he knew himself so well this was it. Over 4 feet and he would just refuse out.

So we went to the Dallas track and got a horse out of a claiming race. We watched him a bunch of times. He was sired by the horse of the year 1971--can't remember the name right now. He was known for either winning like an antelope or loosing like a donkey. If you watched him he would walk into the ring before the line up and size up the other horses. It was like he know he could win so he was all out. If he thought it was not a possiblity he could not be bothered and nor matter what the jockey did would come in dead last. The owners apparently did not think anyone would claim him with such mixed results and he was not quite four years old. They put him in a 5000 claiming race and we bought him. They offered us double but this was Maxx's and my manifestation from the universe. He was all we could afford and he was young, with high potential, very intelligent and bored. He was 17.2 hands and we named him My T Maxx and Maxx called him Teddy, he was her big Teddy Bear. We sent him to Corpus Christi for six weeks of jumper training. She spent a long weekend with him learning how to ride him without Russell. It is a big step for a 12 year old to go from 15.2 to 17.2 and they are totally different types of horses--a paint a quarter horse and Teddy a thoughbred.

Maxx soon found she could not ride both of them, the change was too much for her. Picasso went wild with jealousy. Russell had three barns. First we had them next to each other Picasso practically busted the door the first time she took Teddy out and left him. We moved Teddy to the furthest barn away and tried not to let him know Maxx was riding Teddy. We leased Piccasso out to Russell's nephew who could not do much with him much to Russell's disgust. In jumping all credit goes to the horse not the rider so it proved Maxx could ride and Picasso did not just carry her. Their first major horse show, and the largest in Texas, the Christmas horse show of 94, Maxx was 12 and Teddy 3. The youngest horse and the youngest rider and they placed 8th which thrilled all of us.

That first horse show before Maxx rode him in her class, I had a professional ride him to try and tone him down. Still have the videos. Teddy rode his best for Maxx always and did not do well for the professional. It was at this show with the lights, music, and applause that Teddy got his ahah moment. You could see the light in his eyes. This is show jumping. This is what this is all about. I am not a race horse--I am a show horse and I love it.

I have seen some professional women riders with big warmbloods who can get up and over but they know that big body of theirs is coming down fast. And they so want to win and they soon learn what knocking the rail down does. I have seen these big warm bloods teach them selves to throw their hind legs side ways as they go over so as not to touch that bar. First, time I saw it I was amazed. I have been a horse handler for several Olympic events and I have strong feelings about the care and training of horses.

In the Suel Olympics, it was the first time they had a jump that was essentially a ring. It was a big surprise and there was no rules against it. But most of the horses had never trained jumping thru something with something over their head. Over 50% of the horses refused out. Most of the women made it thru because women ride by asking and it partnership. Men used strength and often spurs. Don't get me started on spurs. The horses like Teddy who are always in partnership will go okay if you say I can do this--I believe you---and they will go for it. But for those who see the horse as a machine that you press here to go--they go **** you --- I am not risking my life for you. Horse and rider in partnership get what they are risking. It is all too easy to become Christopher Reeves who had his accident that broke his neck in April of 95. My daughter died in October of 95.

I never rode English nor jumped until after Maxx's death. I had a dear friend who is much like eagle9 who taught me. We rode everyday at lunch. She was once an Olympic quality rider and went all the way but could not afford nor did she have her own horse. She also took a brutal spill and broke her collar bone among others. She had not ridden in decade when we met. She was a meticulous rider and teacher. One day she reached over whumped my hands with her crop. She said something to the effect that she was tired of telling me the same thing and my not paying real attention and putting it into practice. I am 50 years old. I am like---I have to sit with this a while. And I realized that she was the teacher I needed to learn what I wanted at that time of my life. Everyone else would have handled me with kid gloves, let me go on my crying jags, etc. But not her. It was do or do not. I would not be here today without that experience. It was tough but it was oh so worth it.

I have recognized since I first met 9eagle9, that she will always bring that quality to her community and for me I say sign me up. But my horses are personal sentient beings I share with. My friend loved them but she did not feel them like I did and do. Eagle and I would have to ride together to see how that works in reality for us. Now I do not know nor do I care. But I trust the winds of her intuition. Yet, they are her winds and I may or may not be lifted by them. I may have to find my own air current and we will soar maybe not side by side but within our sight and that is good enough.

[Calz]

Perhaps this may be of interest here (and now).

From Gilliland:

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Many people were feeling out of sorts, mood swings etc last few days this is one reason why.

Solar Activity at Eruptive Levels
and So Are Volcanoes
by Mitch Battros - Earth Changes Media

Solar activity is at eruptive levels and gradually increasing, with the GOES X-ray flux background close to C level. More than seven C flares were observed within the last 24 hours. Several more C flares are expected within the next 24 hours, with a chance for an M flare from sunspot region 1393 and 1388



A glancing blow to Earth is possible from the January 5th CME and a moderate geomagnetic storm is expected January 9th.

___________________


Report of 7 Volcanoes at Level III - Indonesia

I have received a report telling of seven volcanoes now on level 3 alert status. (3 out of 4). At this time, I have only been able to confirm five of the seven. I have listed the dates and briefing on each. Notice the dates of escalation coincide with solar activity.



January 8th 2012 - Lewotolo Volcano, Indonesia: The alert status at Lewotolo volcano was raised to level 3 (out of a maximum 4). Increased volcanic tremor was recorded at the volcano on 2nd January 2012. Visually the volcano showed white emissions rising 80 m above the summit. A 2 km exclusion zone was placed around the volcano.



December 20th 2011 - Ijen Volcano, Indonesia: Unrest continues at Ijen volcano, Indonesia. Observations at the lake on showed the lake had changed color from light-green to white. A strong smell of sulphur was present at the lake and required observers to wear gas mask. The alert status was raised further from level 2 to level 3 (out of a maximum 4). The exclusion zone radius has been increased to 1.5 km.



December 13th 2011 - Sorik Marapi Volcano, Indonesia: Sorik Marapi volcano in Sumatra, Indonesia has been raised to level 2 alert (out of a maximum 4). On December 12th there were 43 volcanic earthquakes measured at the volcano. A 1.5 radius exclusion zone has been placed around the volcano.



December 8th 2011 - Sundoro Volcano, Indonesia: Sundoro volcano in central Java was raised to level 2 alert on 6th December 2011 after an increase in seismicity. The temperature of fumaroles at the summit increased from 75 deg C on 26th November to 95 deg C on 2nd December. On December 2nd a plume from

[Calz]

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[Calz]

Thou Shall Not Pass (aka modwiz thingie) remix :)

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[1inMany]

Here and Now. Tired, anxious. Allowing that...and planning a nap. Called new schools to scope them out, left paper messages/no voice mail. Yup.

Much Love,

[ViralSpiral]

Just visited a.n.other thread. Found this gem before is was derailed by warm beer :becky:


Helping a butterfly out of its chrysalis can and usually will, cripple it for life. Compassion might make one wish to aid it in its struggle to get out, but it is not helpful. Enabling willful ignorance is not just about the individual, it is about society at large. The weak link in the chain metaphor applies here. We are each others keepers. Keeping oneself ignorant is not being a team player.

The ignorance is not the shame, it is the shamelessness of being ignorant.



:rockon:

[Calz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjuNMcC_o0

LOL. Hiss! Meow!


Okay ... I'll play along ... but we all know what happens to the last person holding the bag ...


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[9eagle9]

I see this woman what's behind the final word. Her mediation, which is nearly lost to us now save for those people coming into their power again. They have the final. Which turned into a dirty word in it self. She may have never cracked a new age book but she's riding the bullet.

Mediators are naturally entitled to the final word because of where it's coming from. They have the self authority to have the final word.

That IS comforting to have a person who KNOWs what they are doing, I'm with you there. The ultimate in having your back watched.

She's a mediator. They always have the final word. Her proffession is one of mediation. That is what a mediator is for, our ultimate extreme discernment. That is something that occurs in the power point place. That' comes from her self authority, its just a naturally occuring expression. She's entitled to the final word becaudr she's a mediator and very likely the people who are arguingwith her are not in their power place, not in their ultimate discernment. They want the final word without having to do what is necessary to find it. The work. She can't or steal the final word, its just her entitlement. It's always belonged to her. It belongs to everyone but not everyone does the work to claim it.

The final word paradigm is the hilarious place to mediate. Because the final word is dirty thing now, like it's been made inot a control mechanism by the powers that be. There is a group I belong to and the mediator shifts every month to debate different things. Over the summer I overheard one say to her daughter who was screaming about her mother having the last word. So the mediator shrugged and said "You have the final word if you want the filth. Because someone has to have it and your anxious to have what you percieve as bad in the first place. So take it. " Recognizing that wasn't really the final word she was giving away. she gave away what the person percieved the final word as--bad.

Iwas howling at how fast she got around that. The mind is so slow compared to the power point.

Mediation can't come from the feeling /mind place because that place is biased and has judgements.

Government and politics have reduced meditators to what we see today. People who base all their mediation on public opinion and how people 'feel' about them. Not knowing how to mediate--they fail. We have leaders who can't mediate for whatever reason. Because we have lost touch with it. The wrong people have the final word, people who are not entitled to it.

Shamans used to mediate for their communities. Mediation has been around for thousands of years. It's misunderstood now but it is a natural expression of a person who knows their power. They will get the final word because it natually belongs to them. They own it.

Get two people in their power that know how to mediate....there's nothing to mediate. No conflict.

thank you for sharing your friend, it gives much more hope for the world knowing people like that are out there .



Well I will tell you what. I had this response in mind to EagleSpirt which about his jockey friend. Maybe it shows a point of motivation ..but also expression.

To Eagle Spirit.

Thank you for sharing that. I don’t often hear stories about the horse kin. She sounds like a typical horse person, totem, energy and literally. Not that there are vast amounts of them to be regarded as typical but…A lot of women that involve themselves in the dangerous end of horses (not the back end…yeee) were Amazons in a past life. And all that that implies. They don’t suffer fools very easily.
Because..you can’t be a fool around a horse.

Because it’s not a desk job, or academic or a job where you can correct the mess when your attention lapses. Very spiritual though--will to power.

It’s a medium that will kill you if you are not very present.

A horse can kill you, damage people around you, and itself in aheartbeat. Much horse work is invested in keeping other's safe .A lot of internal fortitude is required. If you meet a horse person and they are alive and relatively unscathed those are persons who know what they are doing. Jockeys are all about Self management. They are tested constantly, they have tremendous inner will because physical size doesn’t cut it with a horse.

They reflect the medium they work in. Powerful, unconditioned, challenging--challenged, free, intense, and a horse always gets the last word one way or the other. They are forgiving animals with big generous hearts –especially thoroughbreds but Intense ,intense energies. But they test and test and test and challenge and that is what tempers the rider. Those challenges. I would have loved to known if she was fire horse in Chinese astrology.

Blunt, direct. You don't time to write flowery love calls when a horse is spinning it's hindquarters into you. "Oh please my dear, I dont want to hurt your feelings but that horse is about to trample you."

And …sometimes people bore them . After that sort of raw intensity and power that one is naviagating...people are sorta tame. So they rattle the cage to see what’s inside. Do you think they will find that inside a person?

They do --so why isn't the person showing it. They start challenging it to come out. If you are ignored by a horse person...it means they don't see that potential for power in you.

People may not know this anymore because we have don’t have associations with horses like we did before automobiles and trains came along. Where they weren’t casual pets but you worked together with them day in and out. Jockeying isn't a common profession. It doesn't form 'common' people.

They have to be that way to work in that medium. A horse will not accept anything less, especially a eventing horse. Especially race horses. Their lives depend on that sort of person navigating them. It’s not a program, that can be re-booted if something goes wrong. You have to make instant, controlled power decision It becomes automatic.. Raw reality flying up in your face at 40 miles an hour and the only thing that keeps you there is your balance. You’re literally flying on a horse dangling by the balls of your feet. And that’s it. Balance .They have to balanced . And they are --on and off the ground.

That takes a person of a rare character. Everytime I jump up on a off track horse, I think of a jockey . Their heart has to match the power of the horse. Their mind has to be as quick as those feet. And be aware always aware of people who don’t have that sort of power (their radar) that is in their sphere. The bystander can get hurt.

For myself I know how many times a day I have to say to someone, Do not stand behind that horse.

Of course I’m just being mean. After saying it dozen times I'm sure I sound mean.

Why am I saying it?

Horse people don’t suffer fools very gracefully.

Like horses they have a hard time seeing the social conditioning in others, the lack of being present, and don’t feel the need to accommodate it. They don't see it. You don’t accommodate an animal that big--two wills have to be evenly matched. Blend powers. A person walks from the horse expecting everyone is powerful and can take that intensity .In spite of it all a horse enjoys that battle of the wills. The jockey has to enjoy it too.

It’s not personal. You can't make it personal with a horse, they'll walk all over you.

Horses don’t hurt people because of personal reasons.

It’s an impersonal universe.

Horses know that.

Good reply 9Eagle, thank you....
horse people that live and breathe that relationship are 'people' of a different vibrant color of fortitude.
If I really, really needed to get something done of vital personal importance to the changes taking place and I felt called to get involved and help get things done in the physical world and it was necessary to enlist some help I would call her in, in a heartbeat...and she would do what she could to help if it was in any way within her reach to do so. She is so deep down good that it is such an integral part of her she does not have to wave the slightest banner...she is the type of doctor that wants to be called by her first name.
And yes, amazon...and yes, very old soul...and yes, tough...and yes, she IS living change when something of personal/humane importance needs a powerful nudge in her life in front of her.
I have stories to fill a small library...haha : )
Love! Love! Love!

[write4change]

In reflecting on what you say about power, I kind of did a quick run through. And great teachers while not always perfect but always demanding, never, the ones I have known, take on the weak. What they demand is your best always always always. When you begin and when you are young this can be a pain. And you have no perspective of how much time and patience it takes to say something as simple as stand up straight or sit up straight, hold your head up, etc.

One of the things that shocked me about American Idol was how many people who could not carry at tune much less sing, said they had had years of singing lessons. I consider that a terrible breach of ethics. No voice teacher I knew in my day would take a tone deaf pupil and take their money for something that was not possible. Nor would they say things like follow your bliss and the money will come.

A young woman must choose to be a ballerina at 6. She and her body grow into her vision. She, life, and the teacher help sustain the vision. A great teacher says this is the goal but there are no guarantees how this is going to work out. At 9 I decided to be a coloratura but my very first teacher said we have no idea what kind of voice you will have a 20. You never put all your eggs in one basket. Love the process and the learning of it. Self respect comes from the success of self discipline. That was my first incarnation in this life. My foundation to build on. I have had many master teachers in various subjects--they always say it takes a minimum of a decade to become proficient at this. I never hear modern teachers say this. I see no evidence that the human body has changed in that respect. At 18 you cannot decide as a woman to be a ballerina nor a gymnist. Yet, men can make the decision to become a gymnist, dancer, swimmer late in young life because their bodies grow differently. You do not see a male gymnist ay 12 or 13 or a swimmer. Young males cannot approach young female swim or run rates in olympic summer training. At 12 Maxx was running the mile at 5 minutes and 5 secs. She was fencing male college students. Lots of weird things go on between young men and women as teenagers in sports training. I cannot tell you how many times Maxx and I were both called bull dykes.

Again there is the lack of appreciation and understanding of different. Not equal in manifestation only equal in spiritual value. Men still struggle with being born male superior means equal is a demotion. It takes all the threads of the tapestry to weave a big and beautiful piece of art. No thread is superferlous.

[Calz]

Sheesh ... silence is deafening in here today.

Have some noise ... not here and now ... then and there ... yes more baggage (but it rocks and fast forward to today and perhaps not so inadmissible for acceptable village musing after all ...)



At the risk of continuing to move off-topic (aka world knowledge) we really need to recognize what the military industrial complex (at the behest of the elite) has done to promote anti-americanism.

Showing my age here ... I grew up in the vietnam "war" and the draft era. Lots of baggage there. My reality when growing up ... who knew?

Listen to the lyrics here ... just a bit of "history" not written by the elite minion erasers of our real history. No one in their right mind *ANYWHERE* wants war!!!


EDFKphodBQI


(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster

(Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching


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[Calz]

gadzooks ... the village has been overrun.

no one is left???


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[ViralSpiral]

I'm here, can't you see me?


http://evansheline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/find_the_cat.jpg

[Calz]

I'm here, can't you see me?


http://evansheline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/find_the_cat.jpg


War can't give life ... it can only take it away :music:

Nice plot :dirol:

[ViralSpiral]

Lol Cal, you're not looking!

[jorr lundstrom]

Catz:


Sheesh ... silence is deafening in here today.

Have some noise ... not here and now ... then and there ... yes more baggage (but it rocks and fast forward to today and perhaps not so inadmissible for acceptable village musing after all ...)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5B7yqDYbA&feature=related

[Calz]

Lol Cal, you're not looking!

Bugger ... I think I have had my fill of lessons for awhile.

Nobody will let me go home ... ulli threw away all my bricks ...


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[ViralSpiral]

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[eaglespirit]

I Love You People !

Do not make anything your everything...simple again and profound once initiated from the heart!

[Ernie Nemeth]

When my phone buzzed me the other day, I saved this deleted post:

Ah, righteous indignation. So refreshing. It is vital to our future to revive this attitude. It is imperative to know you are right to be idignant in the face of ignorance. Not because of a superior, or elitist, or special interest (besides truth and justice) position of indignation. The ignorant and the informed are equal, one simply does not know it. Indignity has many faces, and not all are righteous. But righteous indignation is another matter. It cannot be refuted; it is always justified, by definition. When one is righteously indignant the truth is automatically, literally, at one's side. In such a state one had better be integrated and centered, focused and aware, because the ego loves the special attention and will derail the righteous part real quick otherwise.

Decided to post it now in response to Viral Spiral's quote from another thread.

[Calz]

Oh my tired eyes have been restored ... it's a *MIRACLE*!!!

Praise the Viral (bugger ... don't want to be burned at the stake for appreciating anyone ...).


ummm ... errr ... I C U


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[eaglespirit]

When my phone buzzed me the other day, I saved this deleted post:

Ah, righteous indignation. So refreshing. It is vital to our future to revive this attitude. It is imperative to know you are right to be idignant in the face of ignorance. Not because of a superior, or elitist, or special interest (besides truth and justice) position of indignation. The ignorant and the informed are equal, one simply does not know it. Indignity has many faces, and not all are righteous. But righteous indignation is another matter. It cannot be refuted; it is always justified, by definition. When one is righteously indignant the truth is automatically, literally, at one's side. In such a state one had better be integrated and centered, focused and aware, because the ego loves the special attention and will derail the righteous part real quick otherwise.

Decided to post it now in response to Viral Spiral's quote from another thread.

Good One Ernie...Fortitude laced with Humility...a combination that turbo charges change!

[Guest]

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Love

Nora

We are all related

[ViralSpiral]

Edited by me
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[Calz]

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Yup ... you are quite perceptive and sensitive ... if you live along the coastline(s) ... any ... stay alert okay???


:grouphug:

[Ernie Nemeth]

That's spooky Nora.
Made me think of that little girl in front of the TV, and her famous line, "They're here."
Calz, could you help out?

[Guest]

Geeze

Love

Nora

We are all related

[Calz]

That's spooky ........
Made me think of that little girl in front of the TV, and her famous line, "They're here."
Calz, could you help out?

Most all of my "trusted spiritual" sources have fallen away.

James Gilliland remains (as well as some "real life" contacts). He doesn't always show the greatest discernment in what he distributes from the net ... but his spiritual information has been rather remarkable for many years now.

Hit the ranch thread for more.

He is calling for challanges on both coastlines in the USA and others abroad.

Personally I have no idea except based on his track record ... I would take note ...

[Guest]

I didn't say it to create fear at all. Children are so connected to spirit and nothing is sacred to them in a way. They don't have reservations about what to say or not to say. Perfectly natural for them to blurt out what comes to them. I pay attention to children, animals and the natural world a lot.

We share a lot -I took care of her when she was an infant. She and I are very bonded and kindred in many ways. Normal for us to have conversations about spirit(s) and the natural world. We are both fortunate to have each other.

Love

Nora

We are all related

[PurpleLama]

Indeed, children making such observations can be interpreced as a dream, archtypically, for the meaning of the ocean coming is a profound one. Spirit, infinity or just vastness, soul transformation, in ways I feel the ocean isn't just coming, it's arrived.

[Calz]

....................

Fear is not recommended regardless ... :)

Caveat being children as well as animals have a connection worthy of attention ... dats it :)

[Marianne]

Nora, holding loving thoughts of you and those around you. And the beautiful land.

[Belle]

I believe young children are more aware and connected to spirit than we could imagine. After a while, 'society'/'civilization' and all its attendant rules does its best to separate us from our natural state. Once the separation has been achieved, some of us spend the rest of our lives trying to get back to that awareness and connection we were born into.

I had a miscarriage one March...the following March, exactly one year later, my 19 year old daughter and her boyfriend told us she was pregnant, and I became the grandmother to a beautiful baby girl in October, 1996. Refusing to marry the father, my daughter lived with us and I babysat while she was at work.

One particular day when Krystal was about two and a half years old, we were up in my bedroom. While I put clean, folded clothes away, she was jumping on the bed. The jumping stopped and in a more grown-up voice she said, "I was with you first...then with mommy." She paused for a moment, and started jumping on the bed again.

I don't discount what a child says...I tend to pay more attention especially when they are playing alone and talking to 'someone'. My grandson was a year and a half old when he pointed to a spot in the living room, said "Poppa" and started laughing...that's what the children called my Dad who passed over 6 years ago. My daughter said he had done that kind of thing a couple of times, but she didn't have a good picture of my Dad to show him. So I found a picture with several relatives in it and he immediately pointed to the picture of my Dad and said Poppa again. He knew.


By the way, has anyone read the thread in Conspiracy Research entitled, "Re: Mitchell Coombes: Does he really have access to insider info?" Apparently Mitchell Coombes has a contact that informs him when HAARP has pushed the button that cannot reverse what it has set in motion...giving a 104 hour 'heads up'. He is waiting to hear of such a notice for a tsunami to hit the west coast, which he believes may happen in the near future. Interesting thread...taken with a grain of salt.

I mention this, not to create fear, but to consider the possibilities, be aware, and be prepared. I'm on the east coast and have given more than a passing thought to the talk about a tsunami hitting here sometime in the near future. Let's hope it does not happen on either coast, but I would rather be forewarned and prepared in the event it does happen...bug-out bags at the ready.

[astrid]

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[write4change]

Okay--I need help. I cannot find my car key. It is a computer chip car key and I have had only one since I bought the car three years ago. It costs a 100 to get one made and you have to special order etc. and I never had the time or the money at the same time.

I spent most of the day cleaning house looking for it. Feeling the universe wanted me to clean up this mess because I have been so focused on the office. Took the dog to the office and got back at 8PM last night. I know I had to unlock the door to get in. I cannot remember going out with the key until I got ready to pack and haul more stuff. I have looked every where and my frustration level after six hours is high. So if any of you all have powers to get me focused to see these keys I would appreciate it.

[astrid]

ok on to it now

[astrid]

lounge room im getting a hit on

couch, sofa.

[meeradas]

Just that.

You'll know why.

ZeIsvy0CoVw

PS:
Astrid, if you say you are
on to it now, is it possible to convey here/ at all, what specifically you are doing?
Am very interested.

[another bob]

So if any of you all have powers to get me focused to see these keys I would appreciate it.

When I was about 3, I was given a magic formula. My Grandmother was something of a mystic, and she told me that if I ever lose something, and I've looked everywhere but still can't find it, I could say a prayer to St. Jude (Patron Saint of the Impossible). I tried out this suggestion, turning my imagination to the task of fabricating and then imploring an immaterial being to aid me in my quest. 90% of the time, I was able to recover the lost objects.

:yo:

[meeradas]

Im just asking Mother in such cases.
Worked every time, except when a magpie had stolen my keys...

[astrid]

I'm dowsing It's great for finding lost objects.
Its been a while, but being detached from the person,
and issue, I should be clear enough.
And i also saw a sofa, it was like a coffee colour.
Lets see if I'm on or off today, lol...

Some days its harder than others as I'm connected
to a few quite closely right now, and others stuff is
never far from my field, strickly speaking i should have
showered and smudged first.
I have been on the phone and Skype in the last hour,
so i might not be that clear.

[Marianne]

Astrid, I LOVE LOVE LOVE this astrology report!
Stop damming up the river! Let it go. Make room for more!!
Thanks for posting it.

[1inMany]

Beautiful stories of children. Have always, as long as I can remember, had some kind of unexplainable connection with children. It's magic, but I've never experienced the communication from them like you guys. I was at a middle school orchestra concert a few weeks ago, and there was the most precious little girl there, probably not quite 2. She looked at me, over a few rows and behind her, and she just looked into my soul. She smiled and blew me a kiss. Then she went on about her business, coming back to me for those long soul connections. She didn't do that with anyone else there. She wanted to come see me, but her parents thought better of that since we didn't know each other. That happens everywhere I go. Even at the age when babies get get that separation anxiety stuff, the soul connection is still there.

There is such a connection that at one point it became too painful to go in public. I would go into a store, and if a young child cried anywhere in the store, I would hear it, feel it, and know why. Sometimes it was naptime and they just wanted to be home. Sometimes they were hungry, had to go potty, or the parents had been or were being cruel or neglecting them. It's more than knowing the different cries, I could hear their non-verbal communication or how they were feeling. I also became saddened or enraged by the parents' reactions. Sometimes I became so sick at my stomach or got such a painful headache I had to leave, all the emotions coming at me from different directions. Invariably I left exhausted. I got to where I didn't go anywhere. That's when I started psychic self defense and found my amethyst (unrelated).

The flip side of that is the joy. I have a 3 year old grandson and we have that connection also. The way I feel when I'm around most kids, I could just eat them up...not get enough of 'em :) I just wanna keep them close & share that light...seems to exponentially increase or something.

Much Love,

[Carmody]

PS:
Astrid, if you say you are
on to it now, is it possible to convey here/ at all, what specifically you are doing?
Am very interested.


ok on to it now

If I've never failed to 'nail it' on a single card draw of the Tarot deck, and can flip heads as much as 130 times in a row..then..I should be able to 'visualize' such things as a lost set of keys.


For me, it is a case of leaning back in a chair, closing my eyes...and letting the visualizations form.

Did you put the key down where you looked at stuff you need to pack? Did you try to pick up stuff while the keys were still in your hands? (I'm just using logic for the moment)

[astrid]

For me logic and thinking KILLS any hope of me finding lost things.
I let that part of me that is connected to the "all knowingness"
roam free and 9 time out of 10 i go straight to it.

Sometimes i put on headphones and music to keep the mind busy,
so it doesn't try to be the "know it all pain in the ass" that it is.

Being detached from outcome is crucial.
And not caring if I'm right or wrong,
in a public arena also a useful attitude to have.

[1inMany]

Here and Now...I usually have so much fun moving. Well, it's a lot of work, but it's exciting. This is a little different. It's scary. I will be the only go-to guy for my girls most of the time. I'm stricken with old fears of inadequacy, not being able to handle the day to day stresses. I try to not dwell on the little things that could happen that I will have to deal with by myself, because I don't want to somehow bring those into reality. I try to still close my eyes and see what it is going to look like when it snows...or if the snow is done this year what all the trees will look like when they bloom. I close my eyes and smell the air, so clean. I hear the girls laughing replacing the thump-car-rap driving by. One of my favorite things in the whole world is when the girls and I start laughing. Usually I say something dorky, being a dork this is quite natural. Sometimes I make up funny lyrics to well-known ditties. I laugh at myself. They follow. Then we all enjoy our dork-ness and life is good. That's what I replace these fears with, pushing them aside to make room for the natural optimism. It's still scary though.

Much Love,

[astrid]

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[Guest]

Write4Change do hope you find your keys -sometimes when i need to find something i don't try to find it -i connect with it pure and simple -no time no space no place-

Well the blog does make me feel a little strange but if it helps someone then good.


Love

Nora

we are all related

[Calz]

...................

Wow ... that was interesting :)

[Calz]

Check out what Keith Hunter had to add ... west coast (usa) members in particular take note.

___________


kerry's blog

January 11, 2012

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LETTER FROM KEITH HUNTER - His Investigation into the following story I posted yesterday

Here is the original post:

Scientists Evacuating Ensenadas, Baja Mexico

click here for the article

Notwithstanding that this article is dated erroneously at the top as "2014" .... if true it would have serious consequences for Southern California. However, I have not received any confirmation of this information. If this article is accurate then a cataclysm to the area is being anticipated and is known by at least some of those in attendance at this meeting. If anyone has contact with a scientist who was in attendance please contact me... [email protected]

Here is Keith Hunter's very interesting research into this story:

Dear Kerry,

I may have some information regarding your article: “Private: Scientists Secretly Evacuating Mexican Port Town Of Ensenada Due To Impending Cataclysm”

From my work, there is a very intriguing connection to the region that may indicate a possible earthquake event – either natural or artificial. I may have mentioned this to you Kerry in one of our interviews.

Do you recall the ancient city of Jericho? It was destroyed by Joshua. But I believe this was via use of the Arc of the Covenant which was a high-tech weapon. God’s instructions to Joshua for bringing the walls down were are follows:

“Ye shall compass the city, all ye men of war, and go round about the city once. Thus shalt thou do six days. And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams’ horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets. And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram’s horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat.”

The above I believe is ‘code’ for engineering a high-tech resonance effect, and that Jericho was particularly vulnerable due to its location.

In my work Kerry I have spoken about how pure latitude arc measures displaced from the equator are carefully selected to engineer a nuclear explosion or trigger an artificial earthquake. This is how I believe Jericho was destroyed. Now, the latitude up from the equator to Jericho – which survives as a city today is:

31° 51′ 19.6″ North (31.855444 N)
The elliptical Arc Length = 11567661.625 feet

What is very interesting though is that this is practically dead-on the latitude of the Mexican Port Town Of Ensenada:

31° 51′ 28″ North (31.857778 N)
The elliptical Arc Length = 11568510.719 feet

The Ideal Value I would calculate for the optimum latitude at which a possible earthquake event might occur shortly, if there is some sort of event forecast (or to be engineered artificially), would be:

31° 52′ 23.05″ North (31.8730706 N)

This would give an elliptical Arc Length up from the equator of:

11574074.074074074…feet

The significance of this is that 1/11574074.074… = 0.0000000864

864 as a progression is linked to time units:

864 / 6 = 144
144 / 6 = 24

Also, I find a ratio of 0.24 linking the value of 11574074.074 to an arc length associated with the Chile 9.5 Earthquake. This may too be of interest.

The above connections at least let me propose that if there is some sort of high level earthquake (or nuclear event) of significance to strike near to the Mexican Port Town Of Ensenada in the near future, then the location of the event would in my estimation be at the latitude of 31° 52′ 23.05″ North (31.8730706 N), elliptical arc 11574074.074…feet + or – 1500 feet or so. This would be the optimum to achieve the necessary energetic effect.

Sincerely

Keith


http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

[Carmody]

Gerald "Gerry" Rafferty (16 April 1947 – 4 January 2011)

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(jeez. I thought he JUST died on 2012. My mistake. oh well -good tunes is good tunes, always glad to hear them.)

[astrid]

These new kids, have zero fear....
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[jorr lundstrom]

Good morning, good morning, good morning



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3BziGZOMcE

[ViralSpiral]

Good morning good morning good MOOOOORNING Here and Nowers

Its still dark outside, but I see a clear sky. YAY!

Hmmmmmm........ front page news. Not sure I would be that happy about it. I guess its "public domain" et al.
What I do know for sure, is that this village attracts attention. At one time during Tuesday evening's (my time) energetic campfire, we had 30 visitors.

@ Carmody re Tarot. I am intrigued. What influences them? I was once a hobby reader for friends and during one particular session, a friend asked about her family. Loooooads of news/interpretations for most, but nothing from/for her dad. He died 2 days later. I never picked them up again.

[astrid]

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love this mans work

He's an excellent bridge between spirit and matter.

[modwiz]

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love this mans work

He's an excellent bridge between spirit and matter.

This was a great video. I am going to start being a bit more penurious with my opinions here at PA. Not in this thread though. Mixed blessing, I know, LOL. Threads are a lot like songs with their own key structures. I am going to do my best to avoid certain songs. Who am I to call punk music dissonant? Yes, going to keep that checkbook closed a little more. STO is the goal, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[ViralSpiral]

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Lol Mod, penurious? Swallow the WHOLE Oxford? ;)

I ♥ reading your posts.

http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/chinese2-smiley.gif?1292867568

[ViralSpiral]

When I see earthquakes off the coast of South Africa, I am naturally attracted to investigate


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/20_-55.gif



Plates shifting....
Not news of course however these happen infrequently in this area and already 3 today
Labour pains seem to be getting more intense?

[modwiz]

When I see earthquakes off the coast of South Africa, I am naturally attracted to investigate


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/20_-55.gif



Plates shifting....
Not news of course however these happen infrequently in this area and already 3 today
Labour pains seem to be getting more intense?

Yes, and they seem to fall in the suspicious 10 km depth that seems to typify created EQ's. The Gakona HAARP pulsed a little on the 10th.

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/magnetometer/plotstations.cgi?latest+3D+500+GAK+HDZ

[astrid]

Indeedy a Hmm moment there.

Speaking of which, Alex Collier was recently talking about the
pacific plates and how things had been "slowed down" to save major
changes. But "they" can no longer do this, the earth must do what she must do.
"They" being the Benevs.. take of this as you will

[ViralSpiral]

4 members and 20 guests




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[meeradas]

I love you guys.

[Calz]

FWIW this is what James Gilliland "picked up" several days ago (from Mexico in reaction to the then breaking story):

James:

Being in Mexico I can feel something building, does not feel eminent but the sea seems to be different.



Private: Scientists Secretly Evacuating Mexican Port Town Of Ensenada Due To Impending Cataclysm

Jan 4, 2014
By Alexander Backman

CRN® Jan 4th 2012- Conciencia Radio is currently conducting an investigation on something massive that occurred in the port town of Ensenada, Baja California Mexico. In or around August 2011, a very big secret meeting took place among the scientific elite at the number one scientific research center in Mexico known as the Center for Scientific Research and Higher Education of Ensenada (CICESE). This preliminary report, not be published as of yet, is being developed to ascertain why prominent scientists from different parts of the world that work at CICESE have decided to suddenly relocate or flee from the Baja California peninsula due to an impending geophysical event of great magnitude.

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[ViralSpiral]

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[astrid]

Here and now, I'm experimenting with food theory i have.
Charka and elemental balancing via eating food with
corresponding colors or elemental association.
Ie, Turmeric for an under active second,
and chill for a lack of fire in my chart.
I like seeing things as a grand experiment,
brings the play back into life. Less seriousness,
more fun. I'm promising myself more of that this year.
Despite what everyone else is peddling, and because of it.

When it comes down to the bottom line,
processing the fear of death is all people need to do
in order to transcend the collective conscious doom spamming.
Understanding at a cellular level that no one can take anything
from you, ever, because you are an immortal, all knowing soul.
Get that, then you can enjoy the ride, whatever that might be.

[astrid]

I must admit, i have been getting today and yesterday,
loads of tingles and shivers, and waves of energy.
Which i sometimes get before major quakes, so
who knows. There is also a stillness, like the earth is
drawing a breath in readiness. But within myself,
I'm feeling calm and prepared. More active, more
focused on the job too. The theme around my small
group this week, has all been detachment. Let go of
those things that are holding back your expansion.
And so much will open up for you. I'm seeing all
around. There is so much support for those with the
right intent, all that is needed is to trust and let go.

And most important to stay present focused and
grounded.

[modwiz]

Here and now, I'm experimenting with food theory i have.
Charka and elemental balancing via eating food with
corresponding colors or elemental association.
Ie, Turmeric for an under active second,
and chill for a lack of fire in my chart.
I like seeing things as a grand experiment,
brings the play back into life. Less seriousness,
more fun. I'm promising myself more of that this year.
Despite what everyone else is peddling, and because of it.

When it comes down to the bottom line,
processing the fear of death is all people need to do
in order to transcend the collective conscious doom spamming.
Understanding at a cellular level that no one can take anything
from you, ever, because you are an immortal, all knowing soul.
Get that, then you can enjoy the ride, whatever that might be.

You are pursuing a very valid path,IMO. One I do when I feel the need. I first was made aware of it reading a book by Gabriel Cousens MD. called, "Spiritual Nutrition and The Rainbow Diet". He now has his own retreat in the US and his original title is now a much bigger book. He is a very spiritual and educated man.
http://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Nutrition-Rainbow-Gabriel-Cousens/dp/0961587520

[astrid]

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Even more valid as a wake up video to share

[astrid]

12635

lol, so true.

[astrid]

wow

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085163/Children-dumped-streets-Greek-parents-afford-them.html

"Children 'dumped in streets by Greek parents who can't afford
to look after them any more'

Youngsters abandoned as parents struggle
4-year-old found clutching note: 'I can't afford her'
Country also running out of medicine
Aspirin stocks low as austerity measures bite "

[modwiz]

wow

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085163/Children-dumped-streets-Greek-parents-afford-them.html

"Children 'dumped in streets by Greek parents who can't afford
to look after them any more'

Youngsters abandoned as parents struggle
4-year-old found clutching note: 'I can't afford her'
Country also running out of medicine
Aspirin stocks low as austerity measures bite "

I might sound like a broken Tolkien recording but, "The battle for Middle Earth has begun." Mordor and Isengard have unleashed their armies, but our populations are still under a spell like Theoden or simply emotionally broken like Denethor.

He may cry, but David Wilcox is one of the heroes in this story. Fulford and Duncan are others. Kerry and Bill are doing what they feel is possible for them. None of the aforementioned sit and wring their hands, they all have real skin in the game.

Feel free to add other names. It is time to start counting and acknowledging our blessings and the skirmishes we are holding our own in. Let us know we are not unrepresented in this fight. More are awakening everyday. Part of creating reality is the ability to feel and "be' in the new reality. This Village is singing a nice loud counter song to the dissonant din clanging in many parts of the world. We have the Universe and Gaia behind, and within, us. We are are the team that will prevail and we owe it to ourselves and our support to not forget that for more than a hand wringing minute.

I also want to acknowledge a non celeb person. Rob Halford/Lord Sidious. His legal guidance alone, puts his skin in the game as it give us more tools.

[ViralSpiral]

wow

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085163/Children-dumped-streets-Greek-parents-afford-them.html

"Children 'dumped in streets by Greek parents who can't afford
to look after them any more'

Youngsters abandoned as parents struggle
4-year-old found clutching note: 'I can't afford her'
Country also running out of medicine
Aspirin stocks low as austerity measures bite "

I might sound like a broken Tolkien recording but, "The battle for Middle Earth has begun." Mordor and Isengard have unleashed their armies, but our populations are still under a spell like Theoden or simply emotionally broken like Denethor.

He may cry, but David Wilcox is one of the heroes in this story. Fulford and Duncan are others. Kerry and Bill are doing what they feel is possible for them. None of the aforementioned sit and wring their hands, they all have real skin in the game.

Feel free to add other names. It is time to start counting and acknowledging our blessings and the skirmishes we are holding our own in. Let us know we are not unrepresented in this fight. More are awakening everyday. Part of creating reality is the ability to feel and "be' in the new reality. This Village is singing a nice loud counter song to the dissonant din clanging in many parts of the world. We have the Universe and Gaia behind, and within, us. We are are the team that will prevail and we owe it to ourselves and our support to not forget that for more than a hand wringing minute.


Thank you


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[Calz]

I might sound like a broken Tolkien recording but, "The battle for Middle Earth has begun." Mordor and Isengard have unleashed their armies, but our populations are still under a spell like Theoden or simply emotionally broken like Denethor.



Oh yeah ... now *dat* is what I'm tolkien bout ...


12636

[ViralSpiral]

12635

lol, so true.

Chuckle

Reminded me of this one I saw in Rahkyt's thread


http://science.kukuchew.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/stop_following_me_creationist.jpg

[astrid]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085582/4billion-wiped-Tesco-shares-disappointing-Christmas-sales-fall-2-3-supermarket-admits-got-things-wrong.html

"£4 billion wiped off Tesco shares as disappointing Christmas sales fall 2.3% and supermarket admits ‘we got things wrong’ "

Encouraging... the signs are out there for all to see.
Now we are starting to see more and more proof of the walls collapsing.
Yay to them "getting it wrong", but sadly they will not get why they
are getting it wrong. That's where we come in.

[modwiz]

I need a reality check with my Villagers. A member here who I have enormous respect for has started a thread titled: Breaking News: Kerry Cassidy - Toddler says 'The Ocean is Coming'..?

I am glad Kerry posted it and that Astrid made us aware of it, but breaking news? Am I too anti-drama? Is it me alone who thinks this is identical to regular news type of hyping things just to have a story? I think it borders on embarrassment for the forum to have an intriguing perhaps prophetic comment declared 'breaking news'.

I'm going to watch an episode of Star Trek DS9 6th season, (The Federation just got the space station back from the Dominion) and then I will check to see if anybody cares to comment on my view of Jacko's thread.

[ulli]

@ Carmody re Tarot. I am intrigued. What influences them? I was once a hobby reader for friends and during one particular session, a friend asked about her family. Loooooads of news/interpretations for most, but nothing from/for her dad. He died 2 days later. I never picked them up again.


I did the Tarot, too, then the I Ching. The accuracy of both made me search even harder...to find out how it all worked...
The complexity yet orderliness of the universe nearly short-circuited my brain.
The main ting I came away with is that while I appreciate linear thinking, and stilll practise it as much as possible I can switch into that other reality. More often now, that I left the rat race.
Those cards only demonstrate how the universe is wired, but we keep forgetting about unless we ask it direct questions.
So whether we interact with cards or any other medium of divination makes no difference
the incredible knowing and magic is always at our fingertips...always...but we don't see until we start to interact.
The same goes for prayer and meditation....it's all the same thing. Interaction with the infinite. The mind cannot grasp it, just sit back and enjoy and wonder.
Our probing into the great unknown will always wield results. Changing our personalities or egos then remains the greatest task, as by streamlining that inner crap and getting rid of it as much as possible clears the lens and we can see what what there all along.
About seeing death....the only time I predicted death was with Princess Diana, the moment they said in the news that she had been in an accident, but only mentioned her broken arm and a concussion, I pulled out her chart, saw her 4 planets in her 8 th house and all those various squares to those planets and knew immediately that she had already died. Which the news confirmed two hours later.
Her time had come...whether assisted by the PTB, or not. Unless they had made their plans while using their knowledge of her chart, I don't know. This is the real mystery...
If I were you I would continue with those Tarot cards. Why stop? His death wasn't your fault.

[ViralSpiral]

I did voice my foreboding at the reshowing of it and agree that we should not be broadcasting such information through trumpets.

Butterfly effect....

[Calz]

then I will check to see if anybody cares to comment on my view of Jacko's thread.

Raincheck.

Gonna stick with jokes and music for awhile ... :tape::whistle:

[ViralSpiral]

Why stop? His death wasn't your fault.

I didn't and don't feel guilt, but what I did have was fear. Of the power, the potential. My friend did not blame me. In her words: it was a forewarning which subconsciously prepared me.
She turned out to be the family glue that held them together in the ensuing days.
Many other things that came up were only true to her and I could not have known.
The fear was also that I would take on other people's stuff. I was still "asleep" in those days and ill-equipped to process it all.

[eaglespirit]

Aaahhhhhhh...Gaia Arises !

http://www.josephinewall.co.uk/goddesses/breath_gaia.jpg

[ulli]

I did voice my foreboding at the reshowing of it and agree that we should not be broadcasting such information through trumpets.

Butterfly effect....

I agree with that, 100%....that's where the art comes in.
One might get the shock of seeing too much in the middle of a reading and must immediately hide it so as no to alarm the other person.
But learning about the 8th house can also mean one can help prevent accidents and change the course of life.
We are all part of the creative process and can't escape the responsibility of being co creators.
The level of that responsibilitty is just different for each and every one.

[Marianne]

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[ViralSpiral]

I did voice my foreboding at the reshowing of it and agree that we should not be broadcasting such information through trumpets.

Butterfly effect....

I agree with that, 100%....that's where the art comes in.
One might get the shock of seeing too much in the middle of a reading and must immediately hide it so as no to alarm the other person.
But learning about the 8th house can also mean one can help prevent accidents and change the course of life.
We are all part of the creative process and can't escape the responsibility of being co creators.
The level of that responsibilitty is just different for each and every one.

:)

This was eggshually in response to Mod's post, but one size fits all

[ulli]

Why stop? His death wasn't your fault.

I didn't and don't feel guilt, but what I did have was fear. Of the power, the potential. My friend did not blame me. In her words: it was a forewarning which subconsciously prepared me.
She turned out to be the family glue that held them together in the ensuing days.
Many other things that came up were only true to her and I could not have known.
The fear was also that I would take on other people's stuff. I was still "asleep" in those days and ill-equipped to process it all.

When I think back to my ill-equipped days I cringe. CRINGE!!! But it's ok...I can handle cringe.
I can forgive myself, knowing that I will still cringe twenty years from now when I look back at these posts.
Learning never ends.
Should we stop because we fear the risk of being fools?

Interesting that those early readings brought me the most powerful clients, many illuminati types.
Powerful only in worldly terms. Their tests and lessons are worse than us from the 99%.
Driven by huge passions and desires, ambitious to play their games on the world stage.
Women who had dreams of becoming First Lady of a nation.
Today I see that real power is in the humblest of people, having turned my back on the world of the rich and famous.
The real power is in holding that inner equilibrium.

[ulli]

I did voice my foreboding at the reshowing of it and agree that we should not be broadcasting such information through trumpets.

Butterfly effect....

I agree with that, 100%....that's where the art comes in.
One might get the shock of seeing too much in the middle of a reading and must immediately hide it so as no to alarm the other person.
But learning about the 8th house can also mean one can help prevent accidents and change the course of life.
We are all part of the creative process and can't escape the responsibility of being co creators.
The level of that responsibilitty is just different for each and every one.

:)

This was eggshually in response to Mod's post, but one size fits all

I was wondering, as you hadn't included the initial post.

But about your "one size fit's all" comment.....
Very very important!!!!!!
This is a law, or prime rule about Here And Now and also synchronicities.
When things coincide....the As Above, So Below law becomes really apparent.
Higher consciousness opening the One Eye. (One Size....fits ALL)
Those people who life has prepared will know exactly what I'm saying....

[1inMany]

Thank you for sharing this video, Astrid. What he says about energy relates to the struggle I have been having, documented well in the Here and Now, lol, about being frugal with one’s energy, placing value on it, not giving it away to all who have their hands out, and deciding wisely how to spend it. He, like so many others, speaks of our thoughts creating our reality. This is a subject I struggle with, because sometimes it seems that people are saying thoughts literally create events and situations…as if one can make a chair materialize out of thin air when they want to sit down.

I am reminded of a conversation I once had with a therapist about our worldviews or paradigms and how they create our realities. What she told me makes perfect sense from a psychological perspective. To this day, it is the only grasp I have on how we could possibly create our own realities. She said…

When you are young, a particular trauma happens. Let’s say that a little girl is beaten by her father when she doesn’t perform one way or another to his expectations. After this becomes a pattern, obviously she learns that when “x” happens she will feel “y.” All through her life, then, she wants to avoid “y” at all costs, and the only way she believes she can avoid it is by watching for it. If she sees “y” coming, she can try to duck or hide or go the other direction.

Wanting to see it coming, so that she can escape it before it happens, she creates a sort of a filter in her mind that ignores everything but the “y” so that when it is coming she can protect herself. If the only thing she can see is “y,” and she is focused intently on avoiding it, she will not see the myriad of other possibilities of emotions and situations in life. Therefore, “y” is all she can see.

If “y” is all she can see, then she lives her life “on the ready” for it. She reacts to every stimulus as if it is “y,” whether it had the possibility of becoming “y” or not. Following that thought process, all she sees or experiences in life is fear of “y,” preparing for “y,” defending herself against “y,” or licking her “y” wounds.

In this theory, it is painfully obvious that what one looks for is what one will find. The way to break the pattern of “y,” the little girl (now grown) must stop acting like “y” is the only action or emotion possible. The change in paradigm, or thought pattern, creates a new reality because if she is not looking for “y,” if she looks for beauty in nature or kindness in people or … whatever she looks for … she will find that instead of “y.”

Is that what people mean when they say your thoughts create your reality?

Much Love,