Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Carmody]

I think that collectively, that humankind is on the cusp of going through some form of this:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/trapped.png


which means that the 'insanity'* is only going to be on the uptick for quite some time.

*running around, arms flapping, saying "Is this a dagger which I see before me..." (http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/dagger-which-see-before-me)

[ulli]

Ernie Nemeth already sent a similar post. He also found that people got annoyed at him for his rants about the "injustice" of this world.

Thing is, for those of us who listen to these kinds of rants we end up confused, not knowing where to direct our sympathy, the children out there who are starving, or the ranter him/herself.

Loath as I am to dredge this up again ... pavlov's calz that I am ... tough love/mirrors/detachment ... ring a bell???

Where does detachment begin and compassion leave off???

Let us set aside distant land starving for a moment ...

Walking by a victim of a crime laying in the street looking up with pleading eyes for compassion ... how does detachment fit into that again??? Are we to smuggly assume there is a spiritual "lesson" going on there we must respect??? Walk on by ... don't worry you will understand it all with your life review.

Not trying to be snide and I ***really*** have no stomach for any more fighting.

I simply don't understand the disconnect there.

Clearly I am missing something.

Calz, this is called tough love, not fluff love, ok?
9eagles posts brought that term to the Village and now I am responding to her in her own language:
slap hard...hard slap: :fish::fish::fish:

9eagle won't take responsibility for her own perception, nor even consider that her rants might be counter-productive.
I really wish she would stop attacking imaginary "people" who aren't quite on the same page in her 'here and now'.

No two people see things the same way, and for every rant about "people" who aren't living up to her expectation I could (if I chose to do so)
send her a long long list of incredible "people" who are making endless sacrifices but are too busy to even let the world know how truly saintly they are.
Some of us have had our own huge dose of negativity and made a choice about what conditions we can operate under.
All we ask for is some respect.
If she perceives someone as having a good time and burying their heads in the sand she might not be seeing that they are on a sabbatical from hellish service at that brief moment in time.
She might consider that taking umbrage with that sort of thing it is because she herself might have fallen short, somewhere along the line, and her subconscious is sending her a subtle message via her projection.
To effect any change each human being needs an environment of peace, one that they can be allowed to control, up to a point.
Ranting, whining, complaining, attacking, do nothing other than ruin such an environment and only serve to feed more of that same negativity.
In my next post I will share what is going on in our own Here and Now in this valley in Costa Rica.
Anyone who is out to dump emotional blackmail around may want to avert their eyes.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Yeah, six more weeks of winter, Phil the groundhog is on dutch tv now, grinn, unbelievable.;)

[1inMany]

Here in NE Texas, it has been unseasonably warm. It is beautiful weather, but very unusual. I can't decide whether 6 more weeks of winter means unseasonably warm winter or real winter and it is going to snow or something.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Here it is minus 12 celcius, and i have to go out to work on my bicycle in 5 minutes, i dont wanna, but duty call, they better be gratefull tonight, grinn.

[9eagle9]

It's interesting that the rescue squad won't come into Plato's cave.

If the attempt were made it would be a the comedy and tragedy that it would be considered a home invasion?

'Come get me but I'm not leaving! '

I admit I enjoy my bear-in-the-cave episodes periodically.

But even the bear leaves its cave sometimes.

[Carmody]

We have to go within. We're our own guides.

Native American Indian peoples have had about 150 years to adujust to Christianity and the industrialized western world and mind. Suicide -nihilism is about 30 to 40 percent among children 8 to 19 years of age on the reservations, alcholism is about 40 to 60 percent, unemployment 50 to 80 percent. Just remembered -diabetes 50 percent and obesity 60 percent.

The Native American religious freedom act was enacted in 1976. 5 to 10 percent of the people practice their traditions. About 50 percent incorporate Christian religions with their traditional ways. The rest are either full Christians or totally assimalated into the western culture and do not know anything about their own people.

I've spent a lot of time with the people from Mexico to the Northern states. There is one thing they, the elders and the traditionalist, all say about these times.... the energy of the earth is changing and that there will be a great light wave that will come, "do not look at it turn away from it and there will be great floods."

Love,

Nora

we are all related

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[ViralSpiral]

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Ut humiliter opinor


Preacher

Planned
Arises from intellect
Listener becomes bored
Listener's doubts not answered
Ego present





Teacher

Spontaneous
Arises from soul
Listener feels "heard"
Doubts lifted without needing to ask
No ego present

[9eagle9]

I'm not buying the excuse we are not on the same page. That fault is everyones fawtly towers of perception. Attack the messanger but message isn't going away. Because you are calling it in. It's not happening by 'accident' or tvia he character flaws of others.

That is an excuse people use not to read the book. I'm not on the same page.

That' just tells me people want to do be percieved differently as others, when are basically all composed of the same stuff.

No I'm not blinded by the light. If I thought simply talking about the light would intiate an increase in it I'd talk more about it.

What people are doing in shrinking from who they reallly are is projecting imaginery people, when the real article is so much more.

[ViralSpiral]

I think that collectively, that humankind is on the cusp of going through some form of this:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/trapped.png


which means that the 'insanity'* is only going to be on the uptick for quite some time.

*running around, arms flapping, saying "Is this a dagger which I see before me..." (http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/dagger-which-see-before-me)


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[ViralSpiral]

'Come get me but I'm not leaving! '



Interesting projection ;)

[ulli]

I had minor surgery yesterday, which meant two days of preparation by not eating.
So I missed out on an event that happened as my husband didn't want to worry me with what was going on around me.
Two days ago a worker, the same one I had mentioned before, whose wife had just moved out was on a drinking binge.
His boss, my brother-in-law, was on vacation at the beach and we were alone in our complex with this guy.
He had been given instructions to return the cash box from the restaurant to our house every night, for safekeeping.
Two nights ago he didn't appear and my husband had to go to his house to collect it,
together with instruction from his brother to tell his man he was fired for disobedience.
He had already been given three chances and this one was his final one.
Instead of returning the cashbox he came after my husband swinging a huge machete in the air, cursing him at the top of his voice.
Oddly enough, my husband has been his only benefactor here, even giving him needed furniture,
maybe we were the only people here who had been really kind to him.
Anyway, by shining his torchlight into the man's eyes and at that moment his cell phone ringing startled the man and he dropped the machete.
My husband got a hold of it and ran home leaving the drunk searching in the dark for his knife.

I only found out about all of this last night after the operation.
Now the guy is in jail, my brother-in-law returned early from vacation and pressed charges.
Meanwhile I have been feeling sorry for him, after all, he is an alcoholic, and when sober would never do such things,
I tried to get my husband to go and talk to him and do something to have him committed to a rehab instead,
as jail will destroy this man. In other words, I want my husband to do something larger than just go by the book and take him to court.

If you ask why don't I do something about it myself here is my answer:
Going to that jail as a blonde foreign woman would not only send the wrong message to all...as it feeds simply too much into the cliché of the naive foreigner archetype, but would actually cause a gossip machine going that would have years of negative repercussions.
So each person can only do what they can do: be alert and wait for spirit to show them the wisest plan of action.

[Calz]

And when other's laugh at you? Because you've created a opening for them to do so by labeling yourself as such? Not laugh with you, but at you? You are fortunate to not have people who make agreement with the label that you chosen to represent yourself. That's not really laughing at one's self, like "Ooops silly me I spilled my beer on my tax return." I can't see where it's even remotely funny for even a moment to refer to yourself as a Retard when I see the potential in people to be so much more. But that is where the trap is.

If you ever find yourself in the position of feeling stupid, or feeling lost, reflect on what labels we choose to have other's see us by. Because there's always someone out there willing to believe what you show to the world. And they will convince you of it as well.

This here is one of the conditions that I speak of.





Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?




Nothing other than the play on words for "avatar" and not being above laughing at myself first and foremost as I enjoy taking humor as I see it in the world at large.

Twas a split second choice when registering. Nothing more.

Gosh 9 ... you know I never gave it that much thought.

I have a fair number of friends here and I have never once felt "laughed at".

Of those friends I have never felt any linkage to myself being a "retard".

Funny as we had fun with frolic for many months and exchanged a few PMs if you were so concerned about my name and reputation why didn't you mention it earlier???

I mentioned earlier you were one of my first "friends" here and that is true. Amidst the "Charles" nonsense (which it seems you don't believe it to have been so) I asked a few simple questions regarding channeling among my first posts. You took time to answer while most other established members did not want to be bothered by newbies.

You have remarkable depth in your experience and are able to express it with great skill.

Just maybe that is why I "asked you to account for or answer to many questions".

The bar is higher for those that bring higher knowledge ... or suggest to.


Why you chose to dump tough love to begin with ... I will still need to work out.

Perhaps your intentions were superb ...

My badly worded reference to freewill would have been better expressed as "did I ask for your tough love???" You are not fond of "new age" concepts but even when one has the best of loving intent ... you don't *dump* it on someone without consent.

As for Ishtar ... might as well bring this all out ... it is clear in retrospect you and US had good reason to take her to task.

I did not know that.

I simply responded to what I perceived as an eagle swoop on another member who had a right to post her/his beliefs. Crocodile tears ... well ... oooops my bad. Minnow swimming among sharks ... who knew?

More than was asked for ... yep ... but if we are to converse on "fair and equal" terms then let's talk.


Lastly ... I found it a bit amusing that after all the history we enjoyed previously the "only" ... "thank you" ... you blessed me with was when I suggested I was leaving the village for the sake of peace.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

You're up ... like my lawyer 10 year old son no doubt you have an answer for all.

Cal

[eaglespirit]

...hmmm , I walk away for a minute and it transcends to deep, deep transformation matters transmuting the now...here and now : )

Yippeeekyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa....expanding the expanding edges of the outer edge : ) : ) : )

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

"Genius all over the world stands hand in hand, and one shock of recognition runs the whole circle round." -Herman Melville

[benevolentcrow]

I do what I can do for others when I can do it. I let eagles fly and roost where they may. Here and Now I think of the beautiful blue sky a rarity in the NW and I am grateful. Grateful for the whole wheat, oatmeal, dried cranberry cookies I made. Grateful for feeling good today. I won't take the many blessings I have in my life for granted. Here and Now the Village is a good place to be when you can quickly skim over post that you don't want to dwell on, and stay awhile on those you do!

[9eagle9]

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.
And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the bus?



And when other's laugh at you? Because you've created a opening for them to do so by labeling yourself as such? Not laugh with you, but at you? You are fortunate to not have people who make agreement with the label that you chosen to represent yourself. That's not really laughing at one's self, like "Ooops silly me I spilled my beer on my tax return." I can't see where it's even remotely funny for even a moment to refer to yourself as a Retard when I see the potential in people to be so much more. But that is where the trap is.

If you ever find yourself in the position of feeling stupid, or feeling lost, reflect on what labels we choose to have other's see us by. Because there's always someone out there willing to believe what you show to the world. And they will convince you of it as well.

This here is one of the conditions that I speak of.





Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?




Nothing other than the play on words for "avatar" and not being above laughing at myself first and foremost as I enjoy taking humor as I see it in the world at large.

Twas a split second choice when registering. Nothing more.

Gosh 9 ... you know I never gave it that much thought.

I have a fair number of friends here and I have never once felt "laughed at".

Of those friends I have never felt any linkage to myself being a "retard".

Funny as we had fun with frolic for many months and exchanged a few PMs if you were so concerned about my name and reputation why didn't you mention it earlier???

I mentioned earlier you were one of my first "friends" here and that is true. Amidst the "Charles" nonsense (which it seems you don't believe it to have been so) I asked a few simple questions regarding channeling among my first posts. You took time to answer while most other established members did not want to be bothered by newbies.

You have remarkable depth in your experience and are able to express it with great skill.

Just maybe that is why I "asked you to account for or answer to many questions".

The bar is higher for those that bring higher knowledge ... or suggest to.


Why you chose to dump tough love to begin with ... I will still need to work out.

Perhaps your intentions were superb ...

My badly worded reference to freewill would have been better expressed as "did I ask for your tough love???" You are not fond of "new age" concepts but even when one has the best of loving intent ... you don't *dump* it on someone without consent.

As for Ishtar ... might as well bring this all out ... it is clear in retrospect you and US had good reason to take her to task.

I did not know that.

I simply responded to what I perceived as an eagle swoop on another member who had a right to post her/his beliefs. Crocodile tears ... well ... oooops my bad. Minnow swimming among sharks ... who knew?

More than was asked for ... yep ... but if we are to converse on "fair and equal" terms then let's talk.


Lastly ... I found it a bit amusing that after all the history we enjoyed previously the "only" ... "thank you" ... you blessed me with was when I suggested I was leaving the village for the sake of peace.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

You're up ... like my lawyer 10 year old son no doubt you have an answer for all.

Cal

[Carmody]

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[9eagle9]

I did not know that.

I know. I also note that people didn't raise such a kerfluffle about when Ishtar called herself out, they wanted to hide it. This is all about choice. Hiding the wounds instead of bringing them up to be healed.

Would I be better regarded if I let people walk in front of freight trains bearing down on them? Because to mention that the chicken crossing the road is about to get run over is not a 'pleasant' thought. And you think that being exposed to tough love is harder than having to employ that love? Do you ever have to get tough with your child? Are doing that because you're mean? Negative. lacking in character?

Real love has to do the tuff stuff because a weak facsimile of it can't. Real love doesn't have much to do how we personally feel about each other.

And I also know much of personal animosity directed my way is because I refuse to see my self as lacking . I know that as well.

Is the world a better place if I see myself as lacking or does it just make other feel safer?

In refusing to fall into the trap of lack, I don't see the lack in others. I see the choices for lack they are making, but behind those choices there something else worth preserving. Do we preserve it by flapping our limp wrist at it or having to get out the tough love.

If someone is pretending to be a drug addict do I agree with them or say stop pretending to be a drug addict and get back to who you are?

[Calz]

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.

And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the




... and this would be your latest lesson in tough love ...

no my friends are not laughing at me directly ...

... but I am making all my friends suffer because they are being laughed at on my behalf???

I would love to use some really big letters now ... but for the time being I will respect Carmody and do my best to keep the decible level low here.


Hmmmm


Well lets open this up for village dialogue.

What say you villagers???


Am I an embarrassment and shame to you all ... too much for you all to burden???

Poll anyone???

[1inMany]

Or, we could stay on the same subject.

Oh, if we allllllllll knew so much, what a different world it would be.

I have an idea. Let's have a round of what do I like about this Village? I'll start. I especially appreciate this Village as a place where we can each talk about internal and external personal workings, as opposed to a thread or other forums where there are personal attacks...or better yet, rather than personal attacks this Village is (usually) full of personal support for individuals and for the whole.

Thank you, and with Much Love,

[Calz]

I did not know that.

I know. I also note that people didn't raise such a kerfluffle about when Ishtar called herself out, they wanted to hide it. This is all about choice. Hiding the wounds instead of bringing them up to be healed.


modwiz and I both had posts removed by :cow:

we raised plenty of kerfluffle in case you missed it.

No one hid anything ... we had the platform to express ourselves removed in the pulling of a plug and carried it over here despite the consequences.

[1inMany]

Sorry to be out of the loop, but who is cow? That's a cow, right?

[Calz]

Sorry to be out of the loop, but who is cow? That's a cow, right?

Paul

Sorry ... I thought everyone knew that.

[1inMany]

Aw, hell, Calz, I know very little lmao....

[9eagle9]

You are not a shameful burden Cal, your friends would eject you in a heartbeat if they really seen that in you. They'd even intiate a protest in the opinions that were directed at you. But I know that people have to be shown not told, telling is just an opinion, being shown like certain matters you've recently brought up is painful.

It is painful to back the wrong horse based on opinions and we always feel stupid in the aftermath of those sorts of things. But it our choice. That is our power to know we can make another choice. That when we are responsbile with our choices that is where our power to influence our environment comes from. There's our power and we're just burying it in opinions.

We feel diminished but we trust in tellling and opionions more than what we know. Now you had something shown to you and you can feel safer in knowing.

But wouldn't a real friend feel conflicted when someone spoke of you in less than flattering terms when they knew the entire time what prompted those terms was how you were choosing projecting yourself? When they see so much more to you than that projection that 1) limits you--self limiting2) just sets the bait out for the ones who'd want to mock you.


Not shameful Cal, its troubling to see the things people create for themselves via opinions. About themselves or others. If you want t project yourself as shameful and a burden what happens when someone comes along and says . YES, you are a shameful burden.

We open our own doors to this.

We put far too much weight and importance on opinions, they are not who we are . Even the opinions of ourselves are waaaaaaay off track.

[Calz]

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[ViralSpiral]

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[ulli]

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.

And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the




... and this would be your latest lesson in tough love ...

no my friends are not laughing at me directly ...

... but I am making all my friends suffer because they are being laughed at on my behalf???

I would love to use some really big letters now ... but for the time being I will respect Carmody and do my best to keep the decible level low here.


Hmmmm


Well lets open this up for village dialogue.

What say you villagers???


Am I an embarrassment and shame to you all ... too much for you all to burden???

Poll anyone???

Dearest Calz, you have shown your worth around here so many times
that I am inclined to say that you could never be replaced.
Even though you still have a few skeletons in your closet but...no problem.
Of course, I can't speak on behalf of the others, that would be presumptuous.

[Calz]

Not shameful Cal, its troubling to see the things people create for themselves via opinions. About themselves or others. If you want t project yourself as shameful and a burden what happens when someone comes along and says . YES, you are a shameful burden.




Gosh ... you are clearly 10 dimensions and a few density levels "above" me to have caught that.

At what point shall I leave low level noise and repsond to "YES I am a shameful burden"???


You asked me a question (promptly ignored of course).


Why is it you are pouring "tough love" upon me???


Are you my GUARDIAN ANGEL???

My contact with the GFL???

Pray God not my Higher Self??? :fear:


Fear not Villiagers ... we are simply trying to rectify and come to grips with some "stuff".

At least I think so ... but I do not consider myself above others so who am I to suggest???

[ulli]

Not shameful Cal, its troubling to see the things people create for themselves via opinions. About themselves or others. If you want t project yourself as shameful and a burden what happens when someone comes along and says . YES, you are a shameful burden.




Gosh ... you are clearly 10 dimensions and a few density levels "above" me to have caught that.

At what point shall I leave low level noise and repsond to "YES I am a shameful burden"???


You asked me a question (promptly ignored of course).


Why is it you are pouring "tough love" upon me???


Are you my GUARDIAN ANGEL???

My contact with the GFL???

Pray God not my Higher Self??? :fear:


Fear not Villiagers ... we are simply trying to rectify and come to grips with some "stuff".

At least I think so ... but I do not consider myself above others so who am I to suggest???

You will sort it out. Me keeping respectful distance.

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[9eagle9]

Because CAL, you ASKED me to.

My apologies for not seeing you as a shameful burden.

Let's take this out of the personal and talk about soemone who isn't here to defend themselves.

Beethoven.

In my opinion he was this deaf piano player.

My knowingness knows that he was a bit more than a deaf piano player if he could compose to something that no one else was able to sense and bring it out to be heard. Compose something that the allegedly hearing enabled couldn't it. I am completely hearing enabled and I can't play like that because I don't KNOW how. Could someone show me. Not if I refused it over and over again, even as i asked to be shown.

When people do nothing but talk about love, and where's love, and when is love coming, and someone answers the call .....if we don't want love stop asking, talking and obsessing about it! Love is love. There is really no such thing as tough love, that's a condition we are putting on it.

The only between You and Beethoven is that he didn't listen to opinions when they said a deaf piano player couldn't compose heavenly works of art.

He couldn't hear them.

[eaglespirit]

Ulli...I am glad that Your Husband is OK...had not read all the posts last time I posted.

I also hope that things can be somewhat brought to a better place personally with the person that caused disruption.

[Calz]

Because CAL, you ASKED me to.



Getting old ... memory fading ... can you refresh me on where exactly I asked you for tough love???


(and I don't mean after "this" had started ... when I did indeed "ask")

Show me where I first gave you permission to do an eagle swoop.

Please.

[ViralSpiral]

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[onawah]

Love you Calz!

I am seeing something here which I think I can discuss from the vantage of personal experience, and hopefully without putting too fine a point on it...
I think the Here and Now thread is the right place to post this, since there is so much genuine, friendly compassionate support here.

It has to do with the need to be right.

I came from a very dysfunctional family; alcoholic father, suicidal mother and siblings, chronic depression, etc.
One step I took, once I reached adulthood, in coming to grips with the psychological and emotional burden I had inherited was to study the dynamics of Co-dependence.
I even joined a group and found the mirroring that went on to be most instructive.
What I discovered is that children with a very dysfunctional family life, with all the variables and uncertainties that they have to deal with at a time when they most need security and stability, tend to have a very strong need to be right in their observations.

The feeling of "rightness" creates a certain kind of internal refuge to which they can retreat when things around them are crazy and nonsensical.
"If I can at least see things as they are, then I won't be overwhelmed and confused by the craziness. If I can be right in the face of so much wrongness, I can be safe."
But it can also become a kind of prison, and understanding and interacting with the inner worlds of others can become very difficult.

A certain amount of flexibility and permeability is necessary in order to interact and merge with others.
The walls of the self-created refuge don't allow for that, as safety is felt to be maintained by rigidity, solidness and impermeability.

This need can even manifest in physical symptoms such as tendonitis or TMJ resulting from clenched jaws, etc.
The prison is maintained well beyond any actual need for it, unless the prisoner realizes his/her predicament and learns how to emerge.
Working on connecting with the Wounded Child can be very powerful in this healing process.

Hoping this may be of some help...
Namaste

[9eagle9]

We call in what we are focusing on. When all we speak of is love and light and et al and et cetera it shows up. Our opinion of what we 'think' love is has nothing to do with it's actual expression. The universe makes no promises about where what we call in comes from, or the direction.

I used to think my friends were people just hung out with me and clucked and nodded at my opinions. My friends are actually the people who kicked me in the ass and didn't give up on me till I could see what they were seeing in me. How did I do that? I asked the universe to send me someone who could let me know what was wrong inside. Because no one would tell me for fear of disrupting the peace.

I have a great deal of experience being the person you are now Cal.....you have less experience being the person I am now.

[ulli]

Ulli...I am glad that Your Husband is OK...had not read all the posts last time I posted.

I also hope that things can be somewhat brought to a better place personally with the person that caused disruption.

This is of course my wish, too. One has to look at things in perspective, however, and see where the real progress lies.
As a foreigner I have had my share of shocks living here for 20 years...just seeing the way animals are treated.

Also the lack of fraternity between the sexes was a difficult one for me.
I have always had lots of male friends when living in England...alas, not here.
People immediately assume that one is having an affair.

I used to rant a lot-- my poor husband had to listen.
Stopped that finally, which is probably why I can't stand it when others are doing it. It is so futile.
Teaching can only be done by example...all other paths end with opposite results from those that were intended.

[Calz]

I have a great deal of experience being the person you are now Cal.....you have less experience being the person I am now.


Erm ... okay ... that denotes a great deal of authority without saying sh!t.

We talking a whole lotta past life or exactly what ... in terms we poor villagers can comprehend ... are you suggesting???

[1inMany]

9eagle9, if I may ask:
We call in what we are focusing on. What are you focusing on?

[ViralSpiral]

Love you Calz!

I am seeing something here which I think I can discuss from the vantage of personal experience, and hopefully without putting too fine a point on it...
I think the Here and Now thread is the right place to post this, since there is so much genuine, friendly compassionate support here.

It has to do with the need to be right.

I came from a very dysfunctional family; alcoholic father, suicidal mother and siblings, chronic depression, etc.
One step I took, once I reached adulthood, in coming to grips with the psychological and emotional burden I had inherited was to study the dynamics of Co-dependence.
I even joined a group and found the mirroring that went on to be most instructive.
What I discovered is that children with a very dysfunctional family life, with all the variables and uncertainties that they have to deal with at a time when they most need security and stability, tend to have a very strong need to be right in their observations.

The feeling of "rightness" creates a certain kind of internal refuge to which they can create when things around them are crazy and nonsensical.
"If I can at least see things as they are, then I won't be overwhelmed and confused by the craziness. If I can be right in the face of so much wrongness, I can be safe."
But it can also become a kind of prison, and understanding and interacting with the inner worlds of others can become very difficult.

A certain amount of flexibility and permeability is necessary in order to interact and merge with others.
The walls of the self-created refuge don't allow for that, as safety is felt to be maintained by rigidity, solidness and impermeability.

This need can even manifest in physical symptoms such as tendonitis or TMJ resulting from clenched jaws, etc.
The prison is maintained well beyond any actual need for it, unless the prisoner realizes his/her predicament and learns how to emerge.
Working on connecting with the Wounded Child can be very powerful in this healing process.

Hoping this may be of some help...
Namaste

Great post Onawah, thank you

The thing about shadow work is that its energy patterns. Unconscious patterns. These need to be acknowledged and embraced. Once we recognize how we judge ourselves, before others, deepening happens and compassion is genuine. Then the prisoner is truly free, no matter who the wardens are....



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p.s. Love you Cal

[ulli]

...hmmm , I walk away for a minute and it transcends to deep, deep transformation matters transmuting the now...here and now : )

Yippeeekyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa....expanding the expanding edges of the outer edge : ) : ) : )

...and that's usually the moment when something's got to give.

[PurpleLama]

Eating the poo sandwich is easier when it's someone else's sandwich, but it still tastes the same, and still we learn, if not quite as vividly.

Thanks to Calz_Avasmartass (has a nice ring to it, and it's admirable, to my warped sense at least) and to the sinister (tongue firmly in cheek) 9eagle9. Maybe it'll be my butt out there next time asking for a good whack *winces*.

[ViralSpiral]

...hmmm , I walk away for a minute and it transcends to deep, deep transformation matters transmuting the now...here and now : )

Yippeeekyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa....expanding the expanding edges of the outer edge : ) : ) : )

...and that's usually the moment when something's got to give.


Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.
Leonard Cohen


You guessed it. I ♥ him! ;)

[Guest]

We have to go within. We're our own guides.

Native American Indian peoples have had about 150 years to adujust to Christianity and the industrialized western world and mind. Suicide -nihilism is about 30 to 40 percent among children 8 to 19 years of age on the reservations, alcholism is about 40 to 60 percent, unemployment 50 to 80 percent. Just remembered -diabetes 50 percent and obesity 60 percent.

The Native American religious freedom act was enacted in 1976. 5 to 10 percent of the people practice their traditions. About 50 percent incorporate Christian religions with their traditional ways. The rest are either full Christians or totally assimalated into the western culture and do not know anything about their own people.

I've spent a lot of time with the people from Mexico to the Northern states. There is one thing they, the elders and the traditionalist, all say about these times.... the energy of the earth is changing and that there will be a great light wave that will come, "do not look at it turn away from it and there will be great floods."

Love,

Nora

we are all related

BmT_rqj2mEo


Thank you Carmody


There is so much more I want to say about my time spent with a lot of the Native Peoples of this continent. My relationship with them was due more to me having questions about my inward experiences and the insanity and no-sense of this society.... Now I have more of a family/friendship relationship with them. They are some of the strongest people I have ever met in my life and yes they are living out a societal dream imposed on them. And there is more to this than I said -horrible in a lot of ways. They also have taken the time to "help" me -took me in. They hold more sacredness and truths in their hearts than one can imagine. More and more the planets and the cosmos are going to influence earth and life here..... the Sacred Beings are here now (The Above & Below) or (Below & Above) and they also say that there is One yet to return....

Love

Nora

we are all related

[eaglespirit]

...hmmm , I walk away for a minute and it transcends to deep, deep transformation matters transmuting the now...here and now : )

Yippeeekyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa....expanding the expanding edges of the outer edge : ) : ) : )

...and that's usually the moment when something's got to give.

...and so it is !

I'm Sorry, Forgive Me, Thank You, I Love You !

That has to be done in the mirror first and foremost...and the process continues and accelerates...
wisdom upgrades,

then One on One and then for the Whole of Humanity,...and the process continues and accelerates...
wisdom upgrades,

becoming an sto way of being without being disruptive...creating, uncreating, creating, creating, uncreating...

working it out works it out...and that 'something has to give' is the uncreating...so an explosion doesn't implode the whole process.

We're getting there!

[ulli]

Eating the poo sandwich is easier when it's someone else's sandwich, but it still tastes the same, and still we learn, if not quite as vividly.

Thanks to Calz_Avasmartass (has a nice ring to it, and it's admirable, to my warped sense at least) and to the sinister (tongue firmly in cheek) 9eagle9. Maybe it'll be my butt out there next time asking for a good whack *winces*.

No one will ever whack you, PurpleLama.
Don't you remember that when people became Villagers they had passed a test...
show that they were no longer masochists.
Or even worse, victims. No one from the fake love and light path, either.
Villagers were about becoming a team unit that operated at levels unknown to outsiders.
This might cause a slight stir on the outside, even though the positive effects of our work
would be reaching to the furthest edges of the universe.
Of course, anyone is always welcome to join, once they can leave their muddy shoes and sling shots at the entrance.

[1inMany]

Wow, Nora,
My relationship with them was due more to me having questions about my inward experiences and the insanity and no-sense of this society.... Are you sure that was you...I swear it was me lol. Actually, the questions about inward experiences and insanity and society...that drove me to looking - hard - for a Native American that would speak with me. I shared my experiences hoping to make sense of things, and time after time I was told I should find a Native American Shaman/Medicine man/person. I tried so hard for so long to find someone. But it just wasn't meant to be. I would love to hear more of what they hold sacred, and how they view the big picture :) It's wonderful that you are/were close to them!

Much Love,

p.s. - Ulli, are you serious about passing a test? Does that really happen?

[ulli]

p.s. - Ulli, are you serious about passing a test? Does that really happen?

Not in a conventional way. Seriously now:
The tests come from within the self, like shyness, or judgments of the Villagers,
which aslo have to do with personal perception.
You passed the test, by making yourself return. There is no hidden tribunal here.
I don't even have time to use the PM box much other than
when someone has some personal pain and want to unload, and vice versa.

There have been comments at times about the superficiality here.
But us who are regulars understand that there is also a lot of depth.
We do have some unwritten laws, and one of them is respect of the others sovereignty.
There is never heavy sarcasm here, only sometimes light-hearted banter.
Few threads where there is such an understanding.
Each person who drops by on a regular basis brings many lifetimes of wisdom and talent
and, dare I say it, what their understanding of what 'love' means to them.

[PurpleLama]

One who has the courage to fight the demons of ego and self in truth tend to become very grateful to have others come along and help shine light on what we have trouble seeing in ourselves. That's what I mean by eating the poo sandwich. My pet term for shadow work, if you will. We are seeing a medicine woman helping one she herself sees as having the potential of having the real love and light shine through. Yucky vegetables kids hate to eat are the same foods that give the most health and vitality and medicine that tastes like sh!t makes you well again. Calz and eagle were my first "friends" on this website, and I see some of what she sees in calz, so I see where she's coming from. I hope, when emotions are smoother, he'll go back over her posts and extract what I did. I found much of what was said to be helpful, and really that goes for all participants. "and when die and they lay me to rest, I'm goin to the place that's the best"

Hey, dead "PurpleLama"! *waves*

Here and now, wondering if the life review will contain interactions on avalon.

I can't explain, but when carmody played dragging the line, it's like this was the next song on the station

lmOY97g-RWc

[9eagle9]

Who inivited me Cal, I never used to participate in this thread until you asked me to come here I was a lookie loo only(smile).

You are amiss in 'thinking' that all the villagers do not comprehend what I'm saying.

At any given time in our lives we used to attack the messenger instead of the 'message'. An excuse we've all used if we are honest to avoid comprehending what the messages means in relation (that word again) to us personally.

So if there is some error here it's in the message. You haven't yet been able to deconstruct the message so you attack the messenger not realizing the messenger only sees your opinion, and opinions are like air. Your opinions do not trouble me because they don't come from you.

I note correctly that you are attacking me with an opinion and is that because the message can't really be attacked? The material I write can not be argued with so like a few others, attack me instead. Eagle's perceptions instead of the message?

Or is it the message is okay but the person delivering it is blind. Well they had enough sight to know what the message means in relation to others.


Try it the other way around and there will be an abatement of the conflict that you express disgruntlement at. Attempt to attack the message instead of blowing air at the messenger. That exhausts and frustrates you and really has no bearing on in relation to me.

Let's talk about 'light' instead? Our comfortable place.

The Great Light Wave. When the Hopi made their predictions about webs like spiders spreading across the nation, great vast billowing wagons trundling across the prariries did we ever pause to wonder where those webs and wagons came from?

They came from people.

Did we ever wonder when the Great Light Wave hits that perhaps it won't come out of the sky, or erupt from the porch floor, or come sliding from the mailbox.
The light wave comes from people. At some level people must realize this otherwise they wouldn't spend so much time with the notion that they are, if only in word and not deed, sending light to each other. Where the heck did they think this light they think they are sending come from?

Through them, from them. It's not coming from a reservoir in the refrigerator?

If light is expressed through people then surely will the Great Light wave be as well?





I have a great deal of experience being the person you are now Cal.....you have less experience being the person I am now.


Erm ... okay ... that denotes a great deal of authority without saying sh!t.

We talking a whole lotta past life or exactly what ... in terms we poor villagers can comprehend ... are you suggesting???

[778 neighbour of some guy]

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.

And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the




... and this would be your latest lesson in tough love ...

no my friends are not laughing at me directly ...

... but I am making all my friends suffer because they are being laughed at on my behalf???

I would love to use some really big letters now ... but for the time being I will respect Carmody and do my best to keep the decible level low here.


Hmmmm


Well lets open this up for village dialogue.

What say you villagers???


Am I an embarrassment and shame to you all ... too much for you all to burden???

Poll anyone???

Last two questions, no and no, just stay as you are.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Never knew silence can be so voluminous. Thanks everybody.

[onawah]

Something I noticed about the CODA (Co-Dependents Anonymous) group I joined.
I saw certain individuals actually expand their prisons into fortresses.
They created more room for themselves and their "rightness" so they could move around more freely within the walls.
And they became great authorities in their" rightness" and became "leaders" in the groups.
What they had to say was often very astute, but the way they said it sometimes rendered their wisdom indigestible.
It was like you had to take a painful piece of their fortress wall along with the information they offered, and so ultimately, nothing was given or accepted in many cases.
But there was still a lot going on and growing inside the walls, and eventually, I think perhaps the fortress would become so full that the walls would simply burst.

Others didn't try to escape the prison, but just went deeper and deeper into their hearts, and from that space, were able to reach through the prison walls and connect to others.
For the latter, gradually, the prison walls became more permeable, and the prisoners were able to take walks outside of the walls more and more frequently.

I didn't stay in the group long enough to observe all the stages of transformation.
But I think I took away some tools from both groups.
I wouldn't say that one was better than the other, since both had found a way to grow.
The important thing was that both were able to be in the same group and offer what they had to one another, and to those, like me, who came to observe and take away what wisdom we could.

I saw a great bumper sticker the other day.
It said, "The day of Non-Judgement is near."

[ulli]

@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

[Guest]

One who has the courage to fight the demons of ego and self in truth tend to become very grateful to have others come along and help shine light on what we have trouble seeing in ourselves. That's what I mean by eating the poo sandwich. My pet term for shadow work, if you will. We are seeing a medicine woman helping one she herself sees as having the potential of having the real love and light shine through. Yucky vegetables kids hate to eat are the same foods that give the most health and vitality and medicine that tastes like sh!t makes you well again.

That was awesome PL


1inMany

The Here and Now thread is a good place to start. And there isn't any test we have to pass.

I studied Tibetan and Zen Buddhism and various martial arts for a lot of years. My relationship with the Native people turned mostly into me realizing that I had to get my own brain out of the way and do a lot of ego work.... this is where I started and have been able to integrate within myself and really start going within. Still working on it. The people on the forum and this thread have helped me immensely in a variety of ways. Also, a lot of Native people do not have the concept of "how" or "why" -in other words nothing is outside of self. Everything is within.

Am going through the Lithium thread and having a lot of fun with it. Now that is cool. It's in the league in my opinion of spending time with a Native American Elder, really.


Love

Nora

we are all related

[onawah]

When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.

I am reading a very good book by Michael Gruber, The Good Son, about a group of Peacemakers who decide to hold a Peace Symposium in Pakistan.
It's a very involved plot which I won't go into, but something that I read last night from the book really impressed me, and it relates to what Ulli is saying.
One of the characters is a psychotherapist and she speaks of Western "experts" in various fields who would end up very frustrated and ineffective in their work when they failed to understand that they could not apply methods that worked in their own cultures to very different cultures, such as in the Middle East.
She found that the Muslims she worked with would simply withdraw and become morose when she attempted to treat them as she would her European patients.
In the West, the individual is paramount, but in the Middle East, the group is what is most important; the family, the extended family, the community, and the nation.
In the West, she decided, change comes about through the individual making changes within, but in the Muslim world, change comes about by changing the way things are done in groups and communities.
Gurdjieff spanned both worlds in his work, so it makes perfect sense that those differences would become very evident to his students.
Indeed, all these different paths must and will one day
converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.

[eaglespirit]

One who has the courage to fight the demons of ego and self in truth tend to become very grateful to have others come along and help shine light on what we have trouble seeing in ourselves. That's what I mean by eating the poo sandwich. My pet term for shadow work, if you will. We are seeing a medicine woman helping one she herself sees as having the potential of having the real love and light shine through. Yucky vegetables kids hate to eat are the same foods that give the most health and vitality and medicine that tastes like sh!t makes you well again.

That was awesome PL


1inMany

The Here and Now thread is a good place to start. And there isn't any test we have to pass.

I studied Tibetan and Zen Buddhism and various martial arts for a lot of years. My relationship with the Native people turned mostly into me realizing that I had to get my own brain out of the way and do a lot of ego work.... this is where I started and have been able to integrate within myself and really start going within. Still working on it. The people on the forum and this thread have helped me immensely in a variety of ways. Also, a lot of Native people do not have the concept of "how" or "why" -in other words nothing is outside of self. Everything is within.

Am going through the Lithium thread and having a lot of fun with it. Now that is cool. It's in the league in my opinion of spending time with a Native American Elder, really.


Love

Nora

we are all related

Thank You Nora...
That resonates with me and my vision in the jungle that showed me that the Native American Indians and Cultures all over are stepping out of their misery now more than ever.
Very bad things happened...we are moving beyond the 'how and why' of it all and taking matters to another level right in front of us, thus creating a new higher becoming. Once again this is where the uncreation comes into play...no more energy given to misery and other detracting low vibrations.

[Guest]

Here is the link to the lithium thread.... I know a lot of the villagers have read it already.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17872-The-Question-of-Lithium--Alchemy-dimensions-shapeshifters-aliens-existence-reality..-&highlight=question+lithium


It's involved and there is a lot of science in it. Just go/flow with it. There are also some very good links. Very good links. The thread is well worth someone's time if they are interested.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[Guest]

onawah you really made me smile:hug:


I saw a great bumper sticker the other day.
It said, "The day of Non-Judgement is near."

Love

Nora

we are all related

[Carmody]

One who has the courage to fight the demons of ego and self in truth tend to become very grateful to have others come along and help shine light on what we have trouble seeing in ourselves. That's what I mean by eating the poo sandwich. My pet term for shadow work, if you will. We are seeing a medicine woman helping one she herself sees as having the potential of having the real love and light shine through. Yucky vegetables kids hate to eat are the same foods that give the most health and vitality and medicine that tastes like sh!t makes you well again. Calz and eagle were my first "friends" on this website, and I see some of what she sees in calz, so I see where she's coming from. I hope, when emotions are smoother, he'll go back over her posts and extract what I did. I found much of what was said to be helpful, and really that goes for all participants. "and when die and they lay me to rest, I'm goin to the place that's the best"

Hey, dead "PurpleLama"! *waves*

Here and now, wondering if the life review will contain interactions on avalon.

I can't explain, but when carmody played dragging the line, it's like this was the next song on the station.

lmOY97g-RWc

There is a reason it was the next song on the station.

you got it exactly right.

That is due to the 'great book of misheard lyrics'.

when I first heard the song 'draggin' the line'..i thought I heard "hitchin' a ride"..and i never bothered to investigate the rest of the lyrics. so..tree huggers, sun, rain, snow, all good, bummin' around the world.

Hippies. Those damned Hippies.

And when Nora spoke of the thoughts by natives... regarding 'don't look into the light'... it made me think of that tune..with the misheard lyrics.

As if those damn hippies had incarnated here so they could take a ride. basically.. crowding out the natives and overpacking the planet....to come here for some grand finale form of a 'into the sky' version of a Dead concert.

The next thought was that they could wear one of those shirts from the "Restaurant at the end of the Universe', (Douglas Adams book) similar to the concert t-shirts from 'Disaster Area', which used the power of a sun and flipped continents over at crescendos. They said "I survived the 'Disaster Area' concert on Signus XXI" or whatever. Except they could wear T-shirts saying 'I wuz on Earth when they Blew sh!t up". Just like some damn hippie with life stories about their acid trips and all that Patchouli..

So..to get the T-shirt, they had to crowd the planet and then die when things went poofy.

Just a bit of humour...... but that is what I was thinking when I posted the song. They would then go to that 'spirit in the sky'.

[Carmody]

One who has the courage to fight the demons of ego and self in truth tend to become very grateful to have others come along and help shine light on what we have trouble seeing in ourselves. That's what I mean by eating the poo sandwich. My pet term for shadow work, if you will. We are seeing a medicine woman helping one she herself sees as having the potential of having the real love and light shine through. Yucky vegetables kids hate to eat are the same foods that give the most health and vitality and medicine that tastes like sh!t makes you well again.

That was awesome PL


1inMany

The Here and Now thread is a good place to start. And there isn't any test we have to pass.

I studied Tibetan and Zen Buddhism and various martial arts for a lot of years. My relationship with the Native people turned mostly into me realizing that I had to get my own brain out of the way and do a lot of ego work.... this is where I started and have been able to integrate within myself and really start going within. Still working on it. The people on the forum and this thread have helped me immensely in a variety of ways. Also, a lot of Native people do not have the concept of "how" or "why" -in other words nothing is outside of self. Everything is within.

Am going through the Lithium thread and having a lot of fun with it. Now that is cool. It's in the league in my opinion of spending time with a Native American Elder, really.


Love

Nora

we are all related

One of my closest friends from age 10 to 20..was Ojibway-Cree. Apparently (from my bits of reading)...the most potent shamen of North America.

[benevolentcrow]

@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

Thank you for this post. I felt an uneasy, queasy feeling (like here we go again) from circlings overhead. A little bit of bird droppings fell on the Village today. This is our happy sharing place... hope we can keep it clean!

[Samsara]

Here is a translation someone put in the comments section:

O God, Who art aware of the secrets of my heart,
thou art my Friend at the break of every dawn,
thou art aware of all my pain and sorrows.
A soul that is engaged in your glorification,
seeks no secrets but Thine long suffering.
The eye that is not crying out to you must be blind.
Don’t look at our doings, nay rather look at your greatness and generosity.
Grant thou new wings to this broken-wing bird.

Thank you Ulli, this is beautiful (as is the song).

Back in 2001 a group of 6 young Bahai girls stayed at my farm house for a couple of days. A woman I knew was looking for housing for these girls, she was housing the boys. They were part of a troup going around the world giving performances here and there. They sang, danced, acted... I remember it to be very nice. One of the young girls left me a beautiful note drawn by hand with this prayer:

"From the sweet-scented streams of Thine eternity, give me to drink O my God, and of the fruits of the tree of Thy being enable me to taste, O my hope! From the crystal springs of Thy Love suffer me to quaff, O my glory, and beneath the shadow of Thine everlasting providence, let me abide, O my Light! To the melodies of the dove of Thy Oneness suffer me to hearken, O Resplendent One, and through the Spirit of Thy power and Thy might quicken me, O my provider!"

I kept it in my treasure box.

[1inMany]

Here and Now...my back hurts. It's like that one lady said in Dreambus, there is a part of me that never grows older...I am, I suppose. But, this danged body isn't keeping up with my I am. Worked as hard as I could today for as long as I could, not feeling my best physically, but surprised as every hour went by that somehow I had the energy to keep going. It came from somewhere...I am grateful for it. I see the evidence of time speeding up as well. When I get ready to take a nice, long nap...it's bedtime lol...my naps went from 11:00 to 2:00 and now they could easily be at 5:00, I just make myself stay up because it's so close to bedtime. Several more hours to go...

Much Love,

[ulli]

Here is a translation someone put in the comments section:

O God, Who art aware of the secrets of my heart,
thou art my Friend at the break of every dawn,
thou art aware of all my pain and sorrows.
A soul that is engaged in your glorification,
seeks no secrets but Thine long suffering.
The eye that is not crying out to you must be blind.
Don’t look at our doings, nay rather look at your greatness and generosity.
Grant thou new wings to this broken-wing bird.

Thank you Ulli, this is beautiful (as is the song).

Back in 2001 a group of 6 young Bahai girls stayed at my farm house for a couple of days. A woman I knew was looking for housing for these girls, she was housing the boys. They were part of a troup going around the world giving performances here and there. They sang, danced, acted... I remember it to be very nice. One of the young girls left me a beautiful note drawn by hand with this prayer:

"From the sweet-scented streams of Thine eternity, give me to drink O my God, and of the fruits of the tree of Thy being enable me to taste, O my hope! From the crystal springs of Thy Love suffer me to quaff, O my glory, and beneath the shadow of Thine everlasting providence, let me abide, O my Light! To the melodies of the dove of Thy Oneness suffer me to hearken, O Resplendent One, and through the Spirit of Thy power and Thy might quicken me, O my provider!"

I kept it in my treasure box.

I knew those kids. Were they traveling with Mary Powers?
By the way, "From the sweet-scented streams of Thine eternity" was always my favorite prayer and I have it memorized.

P.S.Treasure Box used to be the name of my old shop in Barbados.

[starsha]

Just been looking at Snowbird's are you a Pleadian Starseed video? I answered yes to virtually every question. What is it about the Pleadians that I find so drawn too? Ponder,ponder. I know alot of people here feel the same.

Hello everyone,

could someone send me a link to this video? I am very drawn to this also. :)

PS. sorry for jumping in off topic and out of the blue. :) I always get so far behind on this thread. ;)

[Guest]

One of my closest friends from age 10 to 20..was Ojibway-Cree. Apparently (from my bits of reading)...the most potent shamen of North America.I'm not surprised in the least. I definitely sense a presence of an elder.....

When reading through the lithium threadd, I'll have thoughts of; this sounds like....something a traditionalist would say or feels like.... and some of it is very familiar to me or I've had this experience...... It has connected a few of the dots for me as well.

I'll admit had to look up a few of the scientific words so I could make it come together better for me.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[modwiz]

9eagle9 ya know I loves ya. I hope you do. Somewhere, a dead horse is being beaten. With your love of horses you would be the perfect person to stop this abuse. You are a brilliant mind and spirit, but I am close to getting some:
R9WTlP08LEg

[9eagle9]

You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.
@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

[modwiz]

You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.

As I have said before: I can never forget you have an Aries cusp. You're getting like that Italian mother who refuses to let you get up from the table until you have had at least a small plate of everything she has cooked for you. It is effusive love in action and no matter what adjective you put in front of 'love' it is still love.

There is being right and there is also being done. For a time, at least. Let the eaters digest before another loving dish is set upon the table.

I know you asked Ulli to manage you, but I decided to jump in with my own kind of love. Don't have an adjective. Open to suggestions. :ear:

Don't forget:13400

Post Update:
I think I can 'feel' another dish being prepared. I'll get the papaya enzymes.

[ulli]

You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.
@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

I have no idea what you are saying here, 9eagle, and so I have no response for you. I feel worn out.

[Carmody]

I'd like to chime in on the here and now aspect regarding something that just happened and has been happening for the past 1.5 weeks, consistently. My own personal chemtrails. At night. I heard the low flying jet and ran outside, as FOR ONCE....(it's been cloudy all week) it is a clear sky and I can see the trails.

[9eagle9]

No more beating dead people?

Oooo...yeah. That goes over like a ton of bricks.

9eagle9 ya know I loves ya. I hope you do. Somewhere, a dead horse is being beaten. With your love of horses you would be the perfect person to stop this abuse. You are a brilliant mind and spirit, but I am close to getting some:
R9WTlP08LEg

[modwiz]

No more beating dead people?

Oooo...yeah. That goes over like a ton of bricks.

9eagle9 ya know I loves ya. I hope you do. Somewhere, a dead horse is being beaten. With your love of horses you would be the perfect person to stop this abuse. You are a brilliant mind and spirit, but I am close to getting some:
R9WTlP08LEg

OMG! I think an eagle just sh!t on me. Is that good luck? :confused:

[Samsara]

I knew those kids. Were they traveling with Mary Powers?
By the way, "From the sweet-scented streams of Thine eternity" was always my favorite prayer and I have it memorized.

P.S.Treasure Box used to be the name of my old shop in Barbados.

I don't know who they were travelling with. The woman (forget her name) who asked if I could have them in my home was their guardian while they were visiting the "Petite-Nation". The young girl who left me the note was Ellie, she came from England. A beautiful soul.

Small world...

[9eagle9]

God wore me out when God reminded me over and over and over again too. I commiserate. For the same reasons. I didn't understand.



You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.
@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

I have no idea what you are saying here, 9eagle, and so I have no response for you. I feel worn out.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I commiserate Ulli, when God pushed and pushed and reminded and reminded me and reminded me to do my work I got wore out too. For the same reasons. I didn't understand .



You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.
@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

I have no idea what you are saying here, 9eagle, and so I have no response for you. I feel worn out.

[Guest]

I'd like to chime in on the here and now aspect regarding something that just happened and has been happening for the past 1.5 weeks, consistently. My own personal chemtrails. At night. I heard the low flying jet and ran outside, as FOR ONCE....(it's been cloudy all week) it is a clear sky and I can see the trails.


I had my own personal one too about a 2 months ago -but it was a quiet jet.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[1inMany]

ROFLMAO It is finally to the funny point...don't even need to know...I'm reminded of what certain people have said to certain other people (trying not to leave an invitation by telling the roles of the people)... You're not the boss of me.

Moving on...speaking for myself of course...

Much Love,

[modwiz]

I'd like to chime in on the here and now aspect regarding something that just happened and has been happening for the past 1.5 weeks, consistently. My own personal chemtrails. At night. I heard the low flying jet and ran outside, as FOR ONCE....(it's been cloudy all week) it is a clear sky and I can see the trails.

Personal chemtrails........reminds me of a Confucious says:
" He who fart in church, sit in own pew" :pound:

Somebody wishes you would get retarded. Try a different avatar and see if they leave you alone. Carm_avaretard?

We are all retarded.

[gooty64]

Is this thread a cult or what? Is there room for another?

Each time I have peered into this thread, I had no idea what you were talking about.

Would a sensitive sarcastic person have a chance in here?

HNWH....Uhh, I guess I am typing on the keyboard, I am OK, and have it pretty good but, am certainly not satisfied with tomorrow.

[1inMany]

Back to Dreambus, as it rolled so many issues into one for me, it is existentialism on many levels. There seems to be only One, but subjects and objects are many. I'm still at that point...wondering if the other beings played out in 3D are having the same unveilings, or whether all dimensions are merely constructs of the 3D mind as well. I have to laugh at myself, because that makes perfect sense in my mind, not so sure about it after it exits.

I am feeling awesome energies atm, and appreciating them very much. Absence does make the heart grow fonder...or at least makes me appreciate these times more. As I get ready for bed, I'm thinking of maybe chakras tonight. I'm totally bored with Theta waves. Hmmm...choices, choices.

Much Love to my friends, the Villagers,

[9eagle9]

Hm...All the Native American Casino's around here are named after eagles....so I think some eagle **** is worth a scratch off ticket at least.

Are ya gonna rrrrrrrrrrisk it Laddie?

[modwiz]

Is this thread a cult or what? Is there room for another?

Each time I have peered into this thread, I had no idea what you were talking about.

Would a sensitive sarcastic person have a chance in here?

HNWH....Uhh, I guess I am typing on the keyboard, I am OK, and have it pretty good but, am certainly not satisfied with tomorrow.

Cult? No, we're a cuisine. If you like, you become a regular. If not, you get indigestion and seek medical assistance. Usually of a psychological type.

We are all retarded.

[9eagle9]

Lol. You hold your own pretty good, Gooty. From what I have observed I noticed while some people sat quietly in the pews you were bringing the devil into the church.


Is this thread a cult or what? Is there room for another?

Each time I have peered into this thread, I had no idea what you were talking about.

Would a sensitive sarcastic person have a chance in here?

HNWH....Uhh, I guess I am typing on the keyboard, I am OK, and have it pretty good but, am certainly not satisfied with tomorrow.

[ulli]

Is this thread a cult or what? Is there room for another?

Each time I have peered into this thread, I had no idea what you were talking about.

Would a sensitive sarcastic person have a chance in here?

HNWH....Uhh, I guess I am typing on the keyboard, I am OK, and have it pretty good but, am certainly not satisfied with tomorrow.

If you could hang around for a while I'm sure you would soon pick up what is going on here..fast moving thread, lots of people ... today was different from most days...

[modwiz]

I would love to use some really big letters now ... but for the time being I will respect Carmody and do my best to keep the decible level low here.

Well lets open this up for village dialogue.

What say you villagers???


Am I an embarrassment and shame to you all ... too much for you all to burden???

Poll anyone???

Carmody? Who's he? :p

I Love you Calz.

If you were a lady I'd offer you a wet kiss and a dry hump..............but you're not. :spit:

We are all retarded
(My Aquarian/Aspie homage to Nora)

[Guest]

God wore me out when God reminded me over and over and over again too. I commiserate. For the same reasons. I didn't understand.



You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.
@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

I have no idea what you are saying here, 9eagle, and so I have no response for you. I feel worn out.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I commiserate Ulli, when God pushed and pushed and reminded and reminded me and reminded me to do my work I got wore out too. For the same reasons. I didn't understand .



You grant me far too much power, I can't deny some one's space.

Manage me here, Uli, which one will it be? Shall I hold space where its easier for people to demean themselves and not see themselves for what they really are? Or should I hold a space where its not very comfortable for others to demean themselves? If we create space where we demean ourselves something is all too willing to come in there and begin demeaning and managing for us.

If you want to manage me you will have to listen my requests. Can I have a space and air to breathe where I'm not in a space where people are constantly demeaning themselves. "I'm only a Libra, My Life path number is only a four, I'm weak, I'm not spiritually advanced, I have to mock myself, I'm a retard.,'m not you"

Can I have a space where someone says "I'm magnificent in my infinity" ONLY so I can say, Yes you are. I don't get a whole lot of opportunies to make those sorts of agreeable agreements.

It's easy to hold a nice easy comfortable space.

What happens when we are required to hold a space that's like a bag of ill tempered weasels?

The Great Light wave . We know it's coming. It's coming to take up space. It didn't say once it got here it would prepare us for it's arrival no more than a solar flare phones ahead to make sure you're ready for it. Our part of the agreement is to create a space for it. We get a headache from solar flare activity, quit resisting it. Pain is the result of resistance. If you can make the solar flares stop, I'm watching your back as you do so.

That is where my focus lies, in holding a space for what effects us all. Because we all in the same space at the end of the day.

Humanity has this peculiar arrogance that the universe's sole focus is on them, how they feel, what their challenges are. How we feel. Everything out thing out there is worried about our feelings. We used to think we were the only thing in the universe that mattered to God and God's only obsession was how we felt. We thought we WERE the only game in the universe. Then we discovered there may be someone else out there. Then we decided their only care in the world was our welfare, they just couldn't wait to get down and obsess over our problems and hold our hand.

My care is more what effects everyone's space, not the indiviual space, but everyone's space. The space that I actually share with others.I don't let other people demean me....because...I'm not demeaning myself. Is that what it takes for us to be comfortable and interplay of demeaning?

I should just allow a space where people can demean themselves without cautioning on what space they are treading on is allowing what I wound't allow through my front door. We want comfort and our Great Light Wave. Take it up with the wave. That's where everyone's interests lie. Its coming has been heralded; preparing our selves for its coming ....that was our end of the agreement. Are we prepared for that, if we always demeaning ourselves and see ourselves as so little ....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond. That wave is going to be tidal.

This powerful wave coming our way. So WHO is going to manage that powerful wave? All things being relative. Energy being attractive and all.

.
@ 9eagle
When I was an active Baha'i we were always talking and hearing about system change...that there was no hope for the world under the present corrupt system.
When I was with the various Gurdjieff groups we were talking and hearing about changing the self, first via self observation, self knowledge, and gradually pushing ourselves to our limits with various physical, emotional and intellectual exercises.
My question was always which of the two paths was the better path changing the world, or changing the self, and I had to concede there was not only one way...but many.
My hope was that all these different paths would one day converge in a vanishing "zero" point of Oneness.
The main thing was that people would be free to chose their own direction and calling. Unfettered by hecklers, disruption, oppression.
In both systems the thing that tripped up the wanderers most was the appearance of self appointed challengers, and not everyone remained steadfast after running into them.

Today I had an emotional run-in with you 9eagle, because your reaction to that sad photo prompted you to do what I considered to be a wild rant...
something I am not very partial to. I herewith apologize for possibly having made matters worse with my own response.
I would now like you to hear my position, and also invite that of others, who might have felt equally uncomfortable as I did.

Each person needs space and air to breathe if they want to make their contribution in life, and that it is that which I am upholding as anyone's given right.
Their equilibrium takes a beating each time someone hammers at them for not doing their part.
Nothing will ever be achieved as long as there are people who don't see that such behavior serves no one.

Acts of desperation cannot stir a ship through a storm, on the contrary, they unsettle the entire journey.
I appeal to you, 9eagle, to go back to where you were yesterday, when you shared with the rest of us your own Here and Now.
Today I felt the whole village was being attacked for not being out there in Africa and dealing with the issues of starvation.
When I posted my response about not knowing where to send sympathy, you (the ranter) or the children of Africa who have no food.
I meant it then and I mean it now.
Rants are confusing to all, and useless. Please refrain from doing this again.
If you wish to see real change then please lets talk about the many forms this can be brought about.
This thread is not called Here and Now for nothing.
We need practical approaches, starting out from where we are, Here and Now.

I have no idea what you are saying here, 9eagle, and so I have no response for you. I feel worn out.


9eagle9 you may not be demeaning yourself or anyone else, but your are disturbing the Force of this thread Here and Now. I'm sorry someone threw their low self-esteem in your face -but would you please not take it out on the rest of us. A lot of people are doing the work -maybe in a different way and at a different level -but, still they are doing the work.

Give Ulli a break....please at some level. She hasn't been feeling well physically lately either.

Love

Nora

we are all related

[1inMany]

Rock On, Nora :) and MW, thank you so much for making me laugh...it keeps the energy purrrrrrring!

[Sierra]

9Eagle9,

Just to be perfectly clear: Mod Hat Off:

I feel as if I've wasted my time on the last pages of the Village, and I want it to stop. I come here for soul refreshment, not to be lectured or to listen to an argument.

You've been repeating the same thing (over and over is so not Here and Now) so much, I wish you'd go start a thread.

Wave or no wave, your berating us is not going to prepare anyone for a coming wave of light as you say so threateningly. Not your responsibility, and not our onus. And no one wants a preacher in the village. Or a fear based thinker.

Then--using our own free will and sovereignty, those who wish to continue to hear what you have to say, can join you on your very own thread, where you can call the shots.

You wanna hang out here fine, but I suggest you might want to think of yourself as an ordinary villager, same as anybody else. <kicking Eagle's high horse in the ribs>. Kind of a pre-requisite around here, no superiors of any sort allowed.

Please be more aware of the energy being generated. I am sure, absolutely sure, this is not your goal or intention. Sometimes people are really grateful when other people back off. Just saying.

I normally would never speak to someone so bluntly, but you have always put it out there, you favor blunt honesty as you have been saying to Calz. So bluntly I tell you, your behavior is inappropriate to this thread. It is trolling behavior at this point. Disruptive. Divisive.

I do not give you permission to speak to me as you have spoken to Calz. I have people I trust, in whose wisdom I trust, to do the blunt honesty thing with me. In private. I choose what I share on this thread.

Thank you for listening. I hope I have not hurt or offended. I simply want my village thread back.

Sierra

[Guest]

I'd like to chime in on the here and now aspect regarding something that just happened and has been happening for the past 1.5 weeks, consistently. My own personal chemtrails. At night. I heard the low flying jet and ran outside, as FOR ONCE....(it's been cloudy all week) it is a clear sky and I can see the trails.

Personal chemtrails........reminds me of a Confucious says:
" He who fart in church, sit in own pew" :pound:

Somebody wishes you would get retarded. Try a different avatar and see if they leave you alone. Carm_avaretard?

We are all retarded.


Modwiz lol

The energies coming through are too strong -I think the CTs may have an affect of around 1% right now. Still it is disconcerting.

Love

Nora

we are all e-lated

[Cottage Rose]

I have recently been so taken aback by the opinions of the vast majority of members at another forum regarding the Bill Wood testimony. What has really bothered me is that although some members were originally open minded and considering the testimony, after just one meeting of their core group every one was swayed to the opinion that Bill Wood is a money chasing fraud masquerading as a Navy Seal exclusively to profit from a fictional book. And, their stated reasons are closed minded and illogical to the point of ridiculousness.

One stopped listening because she was sure Wood stated at the beginning of the interview that it all would be fiction. Another, stopped listening because Wood stated all he knew about Yellow Book came from Wilcock. (Anyone associated with Kerry or David is never to be trusted, etc etc.) Another objected to the free energy video Wood published on YouTube a couple of years ago, (nothing wrong with the info in the video, just the fact that he made one.) Another could never trust anyone who says "however, comma." And, on and on....????

The situation has reminded me of my recent dream.... it is as if they all took the white pill and went dancing.

[Marianne]

9eagle9 you may not be demeaning yourself or anyone else, but your are disturbing the Force of this thread Here and Now. I'm sorry someone threw their low self-esteem in your face -but would you please not take it out on the rest of us. A lot of people are doing the work -maybe in a different way and at a different level -but, still they are doing the work.

Give Ulli a break....please at some level. She hasn't been feeling well physically lately either.

Love

Nora

we are all related

Well said, Nora.

[Sierra]

[Somebody wishes you would get retarded. Try a different avatar and see if they leave you alone. Carm_avaretard?

We are all retarded.

So spiritual of you to notice ...

Duh ... <gibbering out the door for dinner on the Ave>

[1inMany]

having a random moment

http://flutterinn.com/max2-mooning.jpg

:becky:

[9eagle9]

I quite agree that I thought this was a place to get away from 'out there' but when I come in here I see the same self flagellation I see out there. ...I get a mixed message. What is it then?

I'm sorry for Ulli's exhaustion but Ulli knows what she's getting in to. Managing energy is exhausting. Resistance is very exhausting.

But for everyone else I am sorry if you 'thought' I was berating you.. I'm sure being reminded of who you are is exhausting as listening to the clash of lite sabers all day.

Except for Cal who loves me when I watch his back but thinks I'm spiteful for noticing what comes out of his front. He can continue to berate himself and eventually someone will toddle along to remind him again.

But it won't be me.

[SomaSmith]

Here and now... The coyotes are making a ruckus outside... and I just finished catching up on this thread.
I am exhausted! What a roller coaster!
Ending here for the night with laughter. ;)

Sending love to you all. I can't thank you enough for sharing yourselves here!

:thank_you2:

[Cottage Rose]

I do hope I don't have another one of those speech paralysis dreams from holding back expressing some intense words I feel tonight. For the sake of the village, I will opt for silence.

[starsha]

I thought you all may appreciate this joke tonight. ;)

I consider it an advanced spiritual practice to be able to laugh at all aspects of myself. :)

[Samsara]

Here is a nice place for this:

LBlBV-2I_u8

"Mirror of the Firmament" by Alexander Hakman
Translated by Sophie LeScintilla

Aqua...
Source of life, mirror of the firmament
Droplet of diamond on my shivering skin
So soft, so powerful and sometimes so rebellious
You, who can hold the sky in the smallest puddle
And become a cradle for the flora and fauna

Aqua...
On abrupt mountainsides, erupting rapids
Or majestic rivers extending their powerful arms
To embrace the ocean
Immaculate crystals upon the mountain peaks
Water, I love your gentleness and fear your anger

Aqua...
You, who's gentle caress melts away rocks
You, who unthinking men strive to waste
Where would the world be without you?






Good night Village, it's way past my bedtime.

:luv:

[modwiz]

I thought you all may appreciate this joke tonight. ;)

I consider it an advanced spiritual practice to be able to laugh at all aspects of myself. :)

That is brilliant and it made me laugh as well.

[Guest]

Here and now very cold on the mtn and still in the forest. Have a warm fire burning in the stove.

Here's a bit of Imbolc lore

Imbolc is also called "Brigit's Day", in honor of the great Irish Goddess Brigit. At her shrine, the ancient Irish capital of Kildare, a group of 19 priestesses (no men allowed) kept a perpetual flame burning in her honor.

She was considered a goddess of fire, the patroness of smithcraft, poetry and healing (especially the healing touch of midwifery). This tripartite symbolism was occasionally expressed by saying that Brigit had two sisters, also named Brigit. Another form of the name Brigit is Bride, and it is thus She bestows her special patronage on any woman about to be married or handfasted, the woman being called "bride" in her honor.

The Roman Catholic Church could not very easily call the Great Goddess of Ireland a demon, so they canonized her instead. Henceforth, she would be "Saint" Brigit, patron saint of smithcraft, poetry, and healing.

Brigit's holiday was chiefly marked by the kindling of sacred fires, since she symbolized the fire of birth and healing, the fire of the forge, and the fire of poetic inspiration. Bonfires were lighted on the beacon tors, and chandlers celebrated their special holiday. The Roman Church was quick to confiscate this symbolism as well, using "Candlemas" as the day to bless all the church candles that would be used for the coming liturgical year.

www.angelfire.com/wa3/angelline/imbolc_lore.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/angelline/imbolc_lore.htm)

Cool post Starsha

Have good dreams

Love

Nora

we are all related

[astrid]

Here and now, just dropped my two fur family members off to the kennels,
:cry:

The good news is they were both SO happy,
i told them they were going to the PARK so
by the time we got there they were so excited,
I'm sure they will be fine and have a ball,
me on the other hand :cry:

Big weekend now to prepare for,
later peoples.

[ViralSpiral]

....but yet we think we can manage this Great Light wave.
I'm a ripple on the pond.





Except for Cal who loves me when I watch his back but thinks I'm spiteful for noticing what comes out of his front. He can continue to berate himself and eventually someone will toddle along to remind him again.

But it won't be me.


Resistance is very exhausting.



As is self-flagellation, which you mention.
I do understand that you hope we all survive this great wave, despite my being a detached gypsy Aquarian, with Scorpio singing cheekily whilst the twins howl at the moon.
In my classroom, bad-ass teachers never get apples..... :p

If I dont make it, I will still love you


♥


p.s. Gooty - welcome! Remember........


Cvbd4_RAV0A

[ViralSpiral]

Here and now, just dropped my two fur family members off to the kennels,
:cry:

The good new is they were both SO happy,
i told them they were going to the PARK so
by the time we got there they were so excited,
im sure they will be fine and have a ball,
me on the other hand :cry:

Big weekend now to prepare for,
later peoples.


Awww Astrid. I know what that feels like. Wish I could've doggy-sat for you :(
Enjoy the city, the learning, the experience.

[ViralSpiral]

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423629_10150525473434773_500384772_8810717_1971892382_n.jpg

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Is this thread a cult or what? Is there room for another?

Each time I have peered into this thread, I had no idea what you were talking about.

Would a sensitive sarcastic person have a chance in here?

HNWH....Uhh, I guess I am typing on the keyboard, I am OK, and have it pretty good but, am certainly not satisfied with tomorrow.

Cult? No, we're a cuisine. If you like, you become a regular. If not, you get indigestion and seek medical assistance. Usually of a psychological type.

We are all retarded.

:cool:last sentence makes feel completely at home, me loves you guys;)

[meeradas]

sorry, wrong thread. Well, maybe not.

[Sierra]

Calz, you are my Libran bro. I understand this: You've been working 70 hour weeks, and you've been able to carve out time in synchrony with the moon, to perform a physical/spiritual fast. wtf, this is not the action of a retarded man, and YOU know darn well wtf WE all are just squiggles in contrasting colors making symbolic noises in your brain on this page and nobody but nobody but you has lived inside your head 24 hours nonstop a day for your life and could possibly know as you know, what you need to do next. And you are already doing it. And you are balancing an insane work load, and a family. And being our friend in the Village. wtf, I'm satisfied, as if it was my bloody business to be satisfied.

:hug: Big silly.

Love, Sierra

[modwiz]

Calz, you are my Libran bro. I understand this: You've been working 70 hour weeks, and you've been able to carve out time in synchrony with the moon, to perform a physical/spiritual fast. wtf, this is not the action of a retarded man, and YOU know darn well wtf WE all are just squiggles in contrasting colors making symbolic noises in your brain on this page and nobody but nobody but you has lived inside your head 24 hours nonstop a day for your life and could possibly know as you know, what you need to do next. And you are already doing it. And you are balancing an insane work load, and a family. And being our friend in the Village. wtf, I'm satisfied, as if it was my bloody business to be satisfied.

:hug: Big silly.

Love, Sierra

Calz has a great and astute mind. Connects all kinds of dots easily and has a great sense of humor. He is also a sensitive man, in the best of ways.

I like to consider him a brother, whether he likes it or not!

If he doesn't, he can unclog his nose in my general direction and then taunt me again. :jester:

[Sierra]

Calz has a great and astute mind. Connects all kinds of dots easily and has a great sense of humor. He is also a sensitive man, in the best of ways.
I like to consider him a brother, whether he likes it or not!

If he doesn't, he can unclog his nose in my general direction and then taunt me again. :jester:

Exactly. Just like me, a Libran, perfect. <ducking and running before the snot hits ... > :)

[ulli]

Calz, you are my Libran bro. I understand this: You've been working 70 hour weeks, and you've been able to carve out time in synchrony with the moon, to perform a physical/spiritual fast. wtf, this is not the action of a retarded man, and YOU know darn well wtf WE all are just squiggles in contrasting colors making symbolic noises in your brain on this page and nobody but nobody but you has lived inside your head 24 hours nonstop a day for your life and could possibly know as you know, what you need to do next. And you are already doing it. And you are balancing an insane work load, and a family. And being our friend in the Village. wtf, I'm satisfied, as if it was my bloody business to be satisfied.

:hug: Big silly.

Love, Sierra

Just want to say that Sierra's post here has saved me the time to say the same to Calz. Thanks Sierra. Will you be my secretary? The pay is whatever you think you deserve. There is a cash barn across the yard...just help yourself.

[ulli]

Been enjoying the goodies over at the Hobbitt thread. Similar atmosphere to ours here.
I would like to suggest that thread as a meeting place for the Villagers should there ever be another ripple on the pond let alone a tsunami.

I knew a couple who walked eight hours through a jungle in Panama to visit a village of Guaymi Indians. When they arrived there was not one soul about...all had withdrawn into the forest behind their village. Then one man appeared, holding a big knife. They managed to befriend him. Soon the other villagers joined and they were accepted as guests. Today this tribe has it's own radio station...still remote, but letting the world know of their existence.

[1inMany]

Good Morning/Evening Ulli :) I'd love to have a backup gathering spot, that's a great idea. Since I found this thread so quickly on arrival to Avalon, and since I don't venture into other threads too often, I'm not very good at maneuvering. Could you give me a link to that thread?

Much Love,

[ulli]

But the Hobbitt is not the only movie show around here.
Another favorite Village flick:

CaAEp3MxC0w

[ulli]

Good Morning/Evening Ulli :) I'd love to have a backup gathering spot, that's a great idea. Since I found this thread so quickly on arrival to Avalon, and since I don't venture into other threads too often, I'm not very good at maneuvering. Could you give me a link to that thread?

Much Love,

Hope you have a great day moving, 1inMany. You are now in the vortex. A kind of a birth canal, the funnel/tunnel between worlds.
Holding the energy for you here, I feel kindof like a midwife.
Your new life will bring you security and happiness you have never known before.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35285-The-hobbit-...a-unexpected-journey....jrr-tolkien

[ulli]

Here is extra love and light for the nightowls who guard the Village while the rest of us are asleep.
You never fail to give me that morning chuckle.
Love love love love light light light light ...oops sorry Modwiz...hope you're still wearing them cheap sunglasses.

[1inMany]

Awww, thank you so much Ulli. Thank you for thinking about me this morning, for giving me some sentiments that remind me to be excited today...in the 3D and beyond :) And, thank you for accepting me, warts and all.

All my Love,

[Marianne]

Feeling very hopeful this morning.

Yesterday, had a lunch time conversation with a friend who out of the blue started talking about what can be done to help others. I told her about Neptune in Pisces and what it means for us all.

Reading a UAB-published magazine on public health and innovative imaginings ... couple of highlights: a rural area in India where they are taking unusable old cars and making infant incubators. And in Birmingham, AL a sustainable food system that's aimed at, among other things, eliminating 'food deserts' where there are few grocery stores and prices are higher (often in areas of poverty).

There's so much we can do, and there seems to be a growing initiative now. Hello, Neptune.

I'm off to work, woo-hoo it's Friday!

Love to the village,
Marianne

[1inMany]

For those in other parts of the world, now looking over their shoulders at Friday...

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/5f/gh/yn/rvibrating.jpg

:wave:

[ulli]

Calz, you are my Libran bro. I understand this: You've been working 70 hour weeks, and you've been able to carve out time in synchrony with the moon, to perform a physical/spiritual fast. wtf, this is not the action of a retarded man, and YOU know darn well wtf WE all are just squiggles in contrasting colors making symbolic noises in your brain on this page and nobody but nobody but you has lived inside your head 24 hours nonstop a day for your life and could possibly know as you know, what you need to do next. And you are already doing it. And you are balancing an insane work load, and a family. And being our friend in the Village. wtf, I'm satisfied, as if it was my bloody business to be satisfied.

:hug: Big silly.

Love, Sierra



Calz has a great and astute mind. Connects all kinds of dots easily and has a great sense of humor. He is also a sensitive man, in the best of ways.

I like to consider him a brother, whether he likes it or not!

If he doesn't, he can unclog his nose in my general direction and then taunt me again. :jester:

Modwiz, would you mind teaming up with Sierra to handle Village correspondence?
You don't even have to split the wages with her..
You know where to go, just help yourself, you know your worth...it's there for the taking.
No matter how obscure your choice of words your message always comes through with great clarity...
And I love that.
Sending more love and light...;)

Oh, for anyone who's new here and doesn't know yet how the wages get paid....
The cash barn is where you go to pay yourself...there are no cashiers around, and no receipts.
Your needs are met in the Here and Now Village.

[ViralSpiral]

There is a cash barn across the yard...just help yourself.

Thanks, just did. Seems its movie night, so I bought popcorn for all.....

Be7Og9Gc_KY


http://www.ohioriders.net/images/smilies/07302010/eatdrink.gifhttp://th257.photobucket.com/albums/hh225/YamiDarcy/Icons/Smiles/th_Nem_Popcorn_by_nunyx.gifhttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/popcorn.gifhttp://forums.huntingresource.com/public/style_emoticons/default/popcorn.gifhttp://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1552.gifhttp://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/eating/popcorn.gif

[Samsara]

I have a new friend, Snowy Owl. He came to me last Sunday. I am thrilled but not sleeping much. All is good.

Here and now I watched a crow playing with a squirrell. Nice to see.

Off to work... It's Fly Day !

[Calz]

Some interesting (and perhaps appropriate) words from James Gilliland regarding the "energies" we are currently experiencing ...

_________________


Energies of Late

We are getting overwhelmed with requests for healing, clarity, and questions about what is going on. People everywhere are going through highs and lows, emotional roller coasters, outbursts and being challenged to their core. Even the physical bodies are reacting with hot flashes, tiredness, aches and pains even healing crises. We are moving into an alignment with Galactic Plane and these energies are streaming in along with the Sun's reaction to these energies. I was told this last burst of energy was sent. The Sun went ballistic in what looked like a solar snowstorm. These energies are impacting the Earths body and your bioelectric fields as well. This creates highs, depressions, mood swings, and lethargic feelings. It can excite anger bringing up any unresolved issues. We are in for a wild ride between now and 2013. We are going to have to learn to still the mind, own our emotions and not get into blame or projection on others. Stop looking for an external reason for sadness, anger, fear, guilt unworthiness, etc. It is time to release the past and with these new energies it is no longer an option. Self monitoring, becoming the observer, feeling the emotions to the core and releasing them with the help of the God, Creator, Spirit within is the quickest path. Forgiveness is the key. It is said there is your business, others business and Gods business. We no longer have the luxury of avoiding our own business by getting into others. It is going to take all we have to get ourselves through these times. We are going to be challenged to our core with these new energies. This to shall pass and a lot of forgiveness and releasing of the past will help get us through these times. You are not alone in this process the whole planet and beyond are going through this shift. Be well,
James Gilliland
www.eceti.org
www.bbsradio.com
www.worldpuja.net

[modwiz]

I want to share a thought/message that arose within me just a short while ago. The synchronicity of coming to here and now and finding Calz' post is goose bump producing.

"For thousands of years we have always been looking back into our lives, often imagining what might have been. Now it is time to imagine the future and what might be".

Through forgiveness of self and others the past can be emptied of most of its regrets, ever calling our attention to what has been, and free us to finally create what comes next.

[ulli]

I want to share a thought/message that arose within me just a short while ago. The synchronicity of coming to here and now and finding Calz' post is goose bump producing.

"For thousands of years we have always been looking back into our lives, often imagining what might have been. Now it is time to imagine the future and what will be".

Through forgiveness of self and others the past can be emptied of most of its regrets, ever calling our attention to what has been, and free us to finally create what comes next.

I'd like to add something further here...
There used to be a pecking order, about who was most knowledgeable or who had the most experiences...
This has become moot, too....
When I learnt to accept the possibility of trillions of inhabited planets I knew we would never again have geography lessons the way we did long ago. The entire mind structure of the past will shift in light of this great information explosion.
Who is going to map all of this, let alone, process it all?
Information explosion means minds will get blown, too.
How to have your mind blown and still function as a contributing cell in the vast body of an infinite universe is going to be
the new challenge. But maybe it's not even a challenge but a natural settling into what one had secretly been waiting for. It's now going to be about knowing your own mandate and knowing your place..
The book that really made me click was "Trillion" by Mark Kimmel. A former businessman who was mentioned in Who's Who for many years and then dropped out, like Joe Firmage...anyone remember him? All these people had ET experiences which changed their lives.

[SomaSmith]

How to have your mind blown and still function as a contributing cell in the vast body of an infinite universe is going to be
the new challenge. But maybe it's not even a challenge but a natural settling into what one had secretly been waiting for. It's now going to be about knowing your own mandate and knowing your place..

Upon reading that I feel as though I only have a small sense of what it implies and that alone is enough to fill me with exuberance!

Thank you Ulli!

[ulli]

One man's exuberance begets exuberance for the whole Village.
Thank you for that special morsel of energy.

[benevolentcrow]

This made me laugh out loud this morning! Poor pup just sits there with food on his head. Silly, yes we all need silly in our lives! I love this dog!!!

http://foodonmydog.tumblr.com/

[modwiz]

But maybe it's not even a challenge but a natural settling into what one had secretly been waiting for. It's now going to be about knowing your own mandate and knowing your place..


Knowing one's own mandate will be a challenge for any who have not made the move into abundance consciousness as well as sovereignty and integrity yet. Also being fluid enough to know how a mandate can shift situationally. I still love the completely new paradigm it represents and the holographic concept/idea behind it. Thank you for that gem, Ulli.

[eaglespirit]

Mega-interesting-intense-uplifting-motivating times We are In...the ebb and flows are forming a rainbow pathway straight to the stars : )

[Guest]

Beautiful clear sunny morning on the mtn.

All of you are a gift in my life.

Love

Nora

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Greetings to all villagers. Here is my contribution to the joy and bliss of our community. In sharing the happiness of kittens, I wish you well and a very bright and happy day wearing appropriate sunwear!

While blizzards may rage outside our cottages, warmth can always be found within our own hearts.

Love you! Wish my kids behaved this nicely (in the video not in the village of late ; ) Love and healing to all... xoxoxox

_5MG57jDJJ4

[CD7]

TIME PLZ STTTOOPPPP!!! I just want TO BE!!!! :lazy2:

[Patrikas]

Well.......curiosity finally gets the cat,

there are lots of things id like to say so ill start here ,ive been aware of this thread for a while and have popped in from time to time when i recognise someones name in a post or the message catches my eye..i,ve been here on avalon long enough to know a little of whos who n all that,
and i must say that even tho i have not been a big part of the social thing here on avalon ,i feel that i know some of you at least a little , if u know what i mean

Ive had a little more time on my hands just recently had a rather hard fall on the ice last week so it put me out of action for a bit ,a little sore in the ribs but it,ll come good soon enuff. so i had a lil more time to see what has been happening here

Anyways.i just like to say this ...whats happening here in this thread is really kool and i just wanna say that the energy that surrounds this thread is good because u all make it that way and even when theres a hiccup ....lol .....action is taken in a good way to repair fix clear things up and move on into the new now ........i could not be anywherein the world and not validate good action and good intent .....creators blessings to each of yas

[David Trd1]

cant sleep,warm and cosy laying in my campervan somewhere in tasmania in the wee hours,sipping on a cuppa,listening to the sounds of the night:)

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Cloudy and overcast, cool and windy, rain threatening in the Mizzippi. These incessant chemtrails are getting old. I want my blue sky back. Anyhoo, it's Friday and I ain't gonna let that or anything else keep me down. Res ipsa loquitur.

"And now, now that the week is gone......." Here's a song of mine to be shared called Seven Times. Have a good day, y'all!

http://k004.kiwi6.com/hotlink/6khineso5s/10_seven_times.mp3

[Carmody]

One who has the courage to fight the demons of ego and self in truth tend to become very grateful to have others come along and help shine light on what we have trouble seeing in ourselves. That's what I mean by eating the poo sandwich. My pet term for shadow work, if you will. We are seeing a medicine woman helping one she herself sees as having the potential of having the real love and light shine through. Yucky vegetables kids hate to eat are the same foods that give the most health and vitality and medicine that tastes like sh!t makes you well again. Calz and eagle were my first "friends" on this website, and I see some of what she sees in calz, so I see where she's coming from. I hope, when emotions are smoother, he'll go back over her posts and extract what I did. I found much of what was said to be helpful, and really that goes for all participants. "and when die and they lay me to rest, I'm goin to the place that's the best"

Hey, dead "PurpleLama"! *waves*

Here and now, wondering if the life review will contain interactions on avalon.

I can't explain, but when carmody played dragging the line, it's like this was the next song on the station.

lmOY97g-RWc

There is a reason it was the next song on the station.

you got it exactly right.

That is due to the 'great book of misheard lyrics'.

when I first heard the song 'draggin' the line'..i thought I heard "hitchin' a ride"..and i never bothered to investigate the rest of the lyrics. so..tree huggers, sun, rain, snow, all good, bummin' around the world.

Hippies. Those damned Hippies.

And when Nora spoke of the thoughts by natives... regarding 'don't look into the light'... it made me think of that tune..with the misheard lyrics.

As if those damn hippies had incarnated here so they could take a ride. basically.. crowding out the natives and overpacking the planet....to come here for some grand finale form of a 'into the sky' version of a Dead concert.

The next thought was that they could wear one of those shirts from the "Restaurant at the end of the Universe', (Douglas Adams book) similar to the concert t-shirts from 'Disaster Area', which used the power of a sun and flipped continents over at crescendos. They said "I survived the 'Disaster Area' concert on Signus XXI" or whatever. Except they could wear T-shirts saying 'I wuz on Earth when they Blew sh!t up". Just like some damn hippie with life stories about their acid trips and all that Patchouli..

So..to get the T-shirt, they had to crowd the planet and then die when things went poofy.

Just a bit of humour...... but that is what I was thinking when I posted the song. They would then go to that 'spirit in the sky'.

but more seriously...IF the stories by some about how if one (alien, etc) dies here, they are STUCK HERE, is true..then no-one would bother to incarnate here..until things where near the end point of such a 'mechanistic limit'. We hear about how a given alien, dying here, is stuck here, regarding repeat lives.

And if a wave from the galactic core (a confluence of energetic effects) is what allows folks to leave if they wish, well, then more might come to experience this earth, shortly before that point. so..the librarian/workers/fixers/Indiana-Jones types would be the ones who stick around and have been here for the long term, making this place. Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers. the kind that come for the end, to dip their toes in the waters, so to speak, but do not desire to eat the same meal for such a large number of lives as some others might.

My most recent reading on the subject came from 'the source field investigations', regarding a mention of Dr. Stevenson (http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html) (pg 81-83), who spent 40 years investigating and corelating reincarnation proofing data...and had about 3000 cases in his files.

[Patrikas]

cant sleep,warm and cosy laying in my campervan somewhere in tasmania in the wee hours,sipping on a cuppa,listening to the sounds of the night:)

if we ever moved back to oz .....it would probably be to tas ...

[ViralSpiral]

Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers.

If life gives you lemons.... :)

My first intro into this world was Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss. Even without verifiable proof, it was pretty convincing. Easier, obliviously, if one has the propensity for such things.
Serendipity just sent me another book via pdf, from WhiteFeather. Dolores Cannons' Keepers of the Garden - about 'et's" on earth.
If I could look into your eyes Carmody.....

http://www.millerfilm.com/spacelinks/wink_emoticon.bmp

[Calz]

Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers.

If life gives you lemons.... :)



Please save a few for my fast ... :nono:


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[Ernie Nemeth]

All things are relative.

because

We are all related. (or retarded, no big diff)

[Carmody]

Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers.

If life gives you lemons.... :)

My first intro into this world was Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss. Even without verifiable proof, it was pretty convincing. Easier, obliviously, if one has the propensity for such things.
Serendipity just sent me another book via pdf, from WhiteFeather. Dolores Cannons' Keepers of the Garden - about 'et's" on earth.
If I could look into your eyes Carmody.....

http://www.millerfilm.com/spacelinks/wink_emoticon.bmp

regarding 'pop stands'. It's a reference to leaving a place in haste and with a slight emphasis. A colorful US based English line of "let's blow this pop stand", and they spin off in a cloud of hen sh!t and small rocks, in their big american muscle car (as they left the farm)(chickens flying about as they tried to get out of the way of the noise and dust/rocks). AKA backwoods boys having some fun.

[Ernie Nemeth]

In my silly little world, the problem comes down to a question of authority. How does the chain of command, the line of cause and effect, get activated? Is it body/mind/spirit or spirit/mind/body?

Does affecting the body sweep repurcusions down the line of authority to the mind and spirit? Or is it the spirit that begins the chain that ends with the body? If it is the body, then we are in an untenable position because the body is subject to empirical laws over which it has no control. If the spirit is the creator of experience then we are left with a fall back position from which there is always hope, always a possibility of a miracle - a change of heart and beliefs.

We did not create ourselves. That is the biggest clue. So take heart, miracles are real - they are your birthright.
And the body goes where the mind leads and the spirit beckons.
All things are possible - even the impossible.
And that is good news indeed!

Love,
Ernie

[ViralSpiral]

Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers.

If life gives you lemons.... :)

My first intro into this world was Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss. Even without verifiable proof, it was pretty convincing. Easier, obliviously, if one has the propensity for such things.
Serendipity just sent me another book via pdf, from WhiteFeather. Dolores Cannons' Keepers of the Garden - about 'et's" on earth.
If I could look into your eyes Carmody.....

http://www.millerfilm.com/spacelinks/wink_emoticon.bmp

regarding 'pop stands'. It's a reference to leaving a place in haste and with a slight emphasis. A colorful US based English line of "let's blow this pop stand", and they spin off in a cloud of hen sh!t and small rocks, in their big american muscle car (as they left the farm)(chickens flying about as they tried to get out of the way of the noise and dust/rocks). AKA backwoods boys having some fun.



Chortle, I did know what you meant. This colourful language even reached the shores of sunny South Africa

[modwiz]

Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers.

If life gives you lemons.... :)

My first intro into this world was Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss. Even without verifiable proof, it was pretty convincing. Easier, obliviously, if one has the propensity for such things.
Serendipity just sent me another book via pdf, from WhiteFeather. Dolores Cannons' Keepers of the Garden - about 'et's" on earth.
If I could look into your eyes Carmody.....

http://www.millerfilm.com/spacelinks/wink_emoticon.bmp

regarding 'pop stands'. It's a reference to leaving a place in haste and with a slight emphasis. A colorful US based English line of "let's blow this pop stand", and they spin off in a cloud of hen sh!t and small rocks, in their big american muscle car (as they left the farm)(chickens flying about as they tried to get out of the way of the noise and dust/rocks). AKA backwoods boys having some fun.

Your phrase brought a humorous recollection I have, Carmody. I once was out with some of my band members on a beach off of Long Island NY. It was Fire Island. We had taken the ferry to one part of the Island but decided to walk the beach for a few miles and take a different ferry off. Fire Island has a part of it that is almost exclusively gay and that is the part we had walked to. We were thirsty after our walk and popped into a bar. All men and all gay. Of course, no biggie, we had out refreshment and were ignored, being both 'out-of-towners' and straight. When I had realized it was time to leave I said in voice loud enough to be heard by anyone in the quiet bar, "OK. Let's blow this joint". The whole bar suddenly looked up and at me. My impish smile conveyed that I was 'just turning a phrase'. Yeah right!

My coyote medicine having some fun.

[Carmody]

I was never quite this crazy, I had a bit more respect for my life than this. But it was close. I mean, I had just come off a life where I was a slave and beaten all the time and died having done the same thing every day, for near 40 years. Vive la différence! Before that I was living an adrenaline drenched life, from being in the civil war, so some tension release was inevitable, but along the lines of life threatening adrenaline rides. It was...predictable. High levels of capacity for fulfillment of emotional pressure, in some ways, followed by total constriction. Then I got out....


This...... was very dangerous. See where the car lands and the speeds involved. One simple mistake of any kind.....

3zKSs2vH01Q

[Ernie Nemeth]

Reminds me of a joke about a bar stool in a gay bar and a courteous offer from one of the patrons to another.

Not really appropriate though, me thinks...

[Guest]

Here and now, just dropped my two fur family members off to the kennels,
:cry:

The good news is they were both SO happy,
i told them they were going to the PARK so
by the time we got there they were so excited,
I'm sure they will be fine and have a ball,
me on the other hand :cry:

Big weekend now to prepare for,
later peoples.


Thinking of you in a good way Astrid

And as we turn another page....

traveling today for about 5 hrs

Have a beautiful day

Love

Nora

[Heather2017]

Greetings, lovely Villagers. Here and now, it's a beautiful, sunny day in Phoenix.

Dad's visiting from Virginia, and we're both surviving nicely. We've never spent this much time together before, but we've become a lot closer since we lost Mom. Also, he's a mellower guy now that he's 88. He let me take him to get a haircut and get rid of the combover. Then I showed him how to keep it from sticking up all over the place with a little product. He's a good sport.

Went to see My Mother's Italian, My Father's Jewish & I'm in Therapy! (http://www.herbergertheater.org/my_mothers_italian_my_fathers_jewish_im_therapy) last night. Some corny jokes but still a lot of fun, especially since Dad's Jewish. It's a one-man show, and the guy must have a lot of energy for the days he does it twice (cue joke from Modwiz ;o)).

Managed to get essential housework done before Dad arrived. Becoming more aware of what my issues are. Boy, do I overthink and get anxious about minor stuff sometimes. 3D tasks come more naturally to some than others...

Thanks for being a wonderful group of diverse people from all over the world who remind us that we're all related. :biggrin:

Love,
Heather

[benevolentcrow]

Another chilly but beautiful sunny day in the North West. Mount Rainier in all of it's glory. Watching my Grand Daughter, what a joy. Just learning to walk. Note, never will need to use botox on these lips. Pleasingly plump as is!

[dan33]

Bad day. I've heard that several of my childhood friends have died. All about cancer. 1, 2, 3 ... There is no only one family. There is another family going back lifetimes ago. Talked to Chitina, her mother, this morning... all the beautiful past coming right now. I miss Carolina, who grew up together. Blessed be...

We have no one family, ....we are all realted.....

Thanks to all, and Nora

[Carmody]

Another chilly but beautiful sunny day in the North West. Mount Rainier in all of it's glory. Watching my Grand Daughter, what a joy. Just learning to walk. Note, never will need to use botox on these lips. Pleasingly plump as is!

She's making me think of one of the classic drawn image of Steve Tyler. (Aerosmith)

[benevolentcrow]

Bad day. I've heard that several of my childhood friends have died. All about cancer. 1, 2, 3 ... There is no only one family. There is another family going back lifetimes ago. Talked to Chitina, her mother, this morning... all the beautiful past coming right now. I miss Carolina, who grew up together. Blessed be...

We have no one family, ....we are all realted.....

Thanks to all, and Nora

Hope brighter days are ahead...

[dan33]

I was never quite this crazy, I had a bit more respect for my life than this. But it was close. I mean, I had just come off a life where I was a slave and beaten all the time and died having done the same thing every day, for near 40 years. Vive la différence! Before that I was living an adrenaline drenched life, from being in the civil war, so some tension release was inevitable, but along the lines of life threatening adrenaline rides. It was...predictable. High levels of capacity for fulfillment of emotional pressure, in some ways, followed by total constriction. Then I got out....


This...... was very dangerous. See where the car lands and the speeds involved. One simple mistake of any kind.....

3zKSs2vH01Q


I'm sure this was the stunts tests for French Connection.

:)

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Bad day. I've heard that several of my childhood friends have died. All about cancer. 1, 2, 3 ... There is no only one family. There is another family going back lifetimes ago. Talked to Chitina, her mother, this morning... all the beautiful past coming right now. I miss Carolina, who grew up together. Blessed be...

We have no one family, ....we are all realted.....

Thanks to all, and Nora

Hope brighter days are ahead...

Sure :) Thanks.

[Belle]

So thankful for this thread and especially to Ulli for creating the space we call the Village.

This week I have been bringing what I've learned about being part of a community Here and Now to real life. Thank you all.

Funeral 1 on Monday morning, mother of a friend; funeral 2 yesterday morning, father of another friend; wake tonight and funeral 3 tomorrow morning, the daughter of another different friend.

Yesterday 11 of us piled into two vehicles to make the hour and a quarter trip to Quincy for the funeral of our friends father. One of us sang, I played the organ and piano...everyone participated in some way in the celebration of his life. The joy on Frank's face seeing us all there was priceless. He couldn't believe we would come all that way to support him in his loss and was so grateful. The trips back and forth turned out to be so fun...we all ended up feeling so much closer, with discussions about forming a community of sorts that imo is rare in real life. For a loner like me, it was a rare but wonderful experience.

Tonight is a challenge...my friends daughter committed suicide. I've never been very good at this kind of thing. Part of me wants to come up with some kind of excuse not to go to the wake... the wiser part of me knows how important it is to support one another at such a time. I keep remembering that it is not the platitudes one spouts at a time like this that matters (which I am absolutely horrible at)...it is in the being there, in the sharing of space that allows room for spirit to work that we are called to be for one another. And hugs that speak louder than anything that can be said.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Without you and what I've learned here, I would not have had the strength to willingly, lovingly walk into the lions den of grief and be with them in the Here and Now.

Love you all.

[dan33]

Another chilly but beautiful sunny day in the North West. Mount Rainier in all of it's glory. Watching my Grand Daughter, what a joy. Just learning to walk. Note, never will need to use botox on these lips. Pleasingly plump as is!

I send her a Kiss!!! :)

[christian]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402045_266032933464406_103384269729274_694303_1377418056_n.jpg

[dan33]

So thankful for this thread and especially to Ulli for creating the space we call the Village.

This week I have been bringing what I've learned about being part of a community Here and Now to real life. Thank you all.

Funeral 1 on Monday morning, mother of a friend; funeral 2 yesterday morning, father of another friend; wake tonight and funeral 3, the daughter of another different friend.

Yesterday 11 of us piled into two vehicles to make the hour and a quarter trip to Quincy for the funeral of our friends father. One of us sang, I played the organ and piano...everyone participated in some way in the celebration of his life. The joy on Frank's face seeing us all there was priceless. He couldn't believe we would come all that way to support him in his loss and was so grateful. The trips back and forth turned out to be so fun...we all ended up feeling so much closer, with discussions about forming a community of sorts that imo is rare in real life. For a loner like me, it was a rare but wonderful experience.

Tonight is a challenge...my friends daughter committed suicide. I've never been very good at this kind of thing. Part of me wants to come up with some kind of excuse not to go to the wake... the wiser part of me knows how important it is to support one another at such a time. I keep remembering that it is not the platitudes one spouts at a time like this that matters (which I am absolutely horrible at)...it is in the being there, in the sharing of space that allows room for spirit to work that we are called to be for one another. And hugs that speak louder than anything that can be said.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Without you and what I've learned here, I would not have had the strength to willingly, lovingly walk into the lions den of grief and be with them in the Here and Now.

Love you all.

Hugs and kisses to you Belle. An unexpected storm.

[Belle]

..........

The joke is on me. I was so hoping that at least one state would legalize cannabis that I fell for chiquetet's joke. It would mean so much to so many people in pain if it were true.

[dan33]

SLAP SHOT :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40e61PoonyU&feature=related

[ulli]

In my silly little world, the problem comes down to a question of authority. How does the chain of command, the line of cause and effect, get activated? Is it body/mind/spirit or spirit/mind/body?

Does affecting the body sweep repurcusions down the line of authority to the mind and spirit? Or is it the spirit that begins the chain that ends with the body? If it is the body, then we are in an untenable position because the body is subject to empirical laws over which it has no control. If the spirit is the creator of experience then we are left with a fall back position from which there is always hope, always a possibility of a miracle - a change of heart and beliefs.

We did not create ourselves. That is the biggest clue. So take heart, miracles are real - they are your birthright.
And the body goes where the mind leads and the spirit beckons.
All things are possible - even the impossible.
And that is good news indeed!

Love,
Ernie

I have problems with repeating myself, but sometimes it is ok, I guess.
Back to the metaphor of the 19th century taxi. A horse in front of a wodden carriage and it's coachman, all being approached by a potential passenger who needs a ride.
This passenger instructs the coachman, then gets into the carriage.
The coachman takes his position high up in front and slaps the horse to start moving.
Here you have it all...the carriage is the physical body,
the horse represents the emotions and instinct, the coachman the intellect,
and the passenger is the spirit of man.
Take this and play with it for a while.
The bottom line is the journey, and this is the journey of life itself.
Carriage, horse and coachman, all three are there to serve the passenger to make that journey possible.

If the horse is either too weak, or too willful, the journey will be disappointing,
like in the case of the coachman not taking care of the horse, nor carriage.
Both are under his command; they are his responsibility.

If he falls asleep the horse may stop, or run off, and the journey ends in disaster.
It is easy for him to forget about the passenger after a while,
since he is sitting inside the carriage, nearly hidden from view.
Also the coachman, being high up, might get distracted and while passing through some town want to do his own private errands.
Anyway, this can also be applied to cultures, where one can see evidence of horse, coachman and carriage not being in harmony.
The main thing of this metaphor is the message of the order of command.
Never to forget it must first be the passenger, then an obedient coachman, then his faithful horse, which keeps the whole show rolling.
If the coachman is useless sometimes the passenger might be able to get through to the horse directly, but that is not the ideal scenario.
Enjoy, especially useful to anyone who gives spiritual classes to kids and youth.

[ulli]

So thankful for this thread and especially to Ulli for creating the space we call the Village.

This week I have been bringing what I've learned about being part of a community Here and Now to real life. Thank you all.

Funeral 1 on Monday morning, mother of a friend; funeral 2 yesterday morning, father of another friend; wake tonight and funeral 3 tomorrow morning, the daughter of another different friend.

Yesterday 11 of us piled into two vehicles to make the hour and a quarter trip to Quincy for the funeral of our friends father. One of us sang, I played the organ and piano...everyone participated in some way in the celebration of his life. The joy on Frank's face seeing us all there was priceless. He couldn't believe we would come all that way to support him in his loss and was so grateful. The trips back and forth turned out to be so fun...we all ended up feeling so much closer, with discussions about forming a community of sorts that imo is rare in real life. For a loner like me, it was a rare but wonderful experience.

Tonight is a challenge...my friends daughter committed suicide. I've never been very good at this kind of thing. Part of me wants to come up with some kind of excuse not to go to the wake... the wiser part of me knows how important it is to support one another at such a time. I keep remembering that it is not the platitudes one spouts at a time like this that matters (which I am absolutely horrible at)...it is in the being there, in the sharing of space that allows room for spirit to work that we are called to be for one another. And hugs that speak louder than anything that can be said.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Without you and what I've learned here, I would not have had the strength to willingly, lovingly walk into the lions den of grief and be with them in the Here and Now.

Love you all.

Belle, and Dan33
This is rough, it makes one question the relationship between one's body and spirit. We get so used to being in the same body that losing it, and what's more, to some hole in the ground, stirs up powerful feelings.
I just had a sad funeral experience myself.

You mentioned Quincy. I spent some time in Payson, which is near there. You do mean Quincy, Il?

[ulli]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402045_266032933464406_103384269729274_694303_1377418056_n.jpg

This is great news. I can now come back as a bird, flying high, and never have to consciously inhale.

[dan33]

Reminds me of a joke about a bar stool in a gay bar and a courteous offer from one of the patrons to another.

Not really appropriate though, me thinks...

Hi Ernie.
Let me tell you. :) I was a little bit DOWN ten years ago. My girlfriend had just "dissaparead".
So i said to me... Go ahead with...wathever. I don't n mind at all.
Life project?... f... the life ....
One day i entered in a gay bar.... the screens were showing a man... dressed like a police man... dressed in leather... with an erection.
The image was so stunning that i said.... Can i have a Gin Tonic?.... very serious.
and the bar tender said. Sure!

ha, ha... i was very "ill" in those times.

Look at the past and laugh. :)

[Belle]

I'm in Massachusetts, Ulli. I'm sorry, I should have been clearer...Quincy, Massachusetts.

Loss of the body of someone you love is difficult...they are no longer there to give a hug to or sit and talk over a cuppa and biscuits. The spirit, however, remains...and can remain closeby in my experience. I've had more than a few experiences with spirits...from taps on the head to hearing clearly "s h u t u p" from behind me, and more.

Life is not ended with the death of the body...it is simply changed.

My difficulty is with the grief of others. It is easy for me to feel and take on another's emotions, and I must remain constantly vigilant against it.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

SLAP SHOT :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40e61PoonyU&feature=related

Dan, if Slapshot is the best hockey movie ever made, then Warren Zevon's song, "Hit Somebody" is the best ever hockey song! If you haven't heard it, check it out. Also, below is an article that Hunter S. Thopmson wrote about Zevon's composition of "Hit Somebody".

I was 13 when my father tipped the doorman a $20 at Hal and Mal's in downtown Jackson where Zevon was playing. It was the first and only time I saw him live. He had just left Little Rock, Arkansas, where one of his twelve-string acoustics was stolen form his tour bus, and he was royally pissed off. I was entranced the entire show. He was such a huge talent, and also very enigmatic. Anyhow, to bring some point to this, Zevon died of cancer in 2003. I am sorry to hear of your losses, Dan.

ufEtQcisrgg

Champions Roy and Warren Zevon
By Hunter S. Thompson
Page 2 columnist
http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1206003

Warren Zevon arrived at my house on Saturday and said he was in the mood to write a few songs about Hockey. "Thank God you're home," he said. "I had to drive all night to get out of Utah without being locked up. What's wrong with those people?"

"What people?" I asked him.

"The ones over in Utah," he said nervously. "They've been following me ever since Salt Lake City. They pulled me over at some kind of police checkpoint and accused me of being a Sex Offender -- I was terrified. They even had a picture of me."
"Nonsense," I said. "They're doing that to a lot of people, these days. They're rounding up the Bigamists before the Olympics start. They don't want to be embarrassed in the eyes of the world again."

Warren seemed far too frantic to do any serious song-writing, so I tried to calm him down with some of the fresh Jimson tea I'd brewed up for the Holiday. I knew he was a rabid hockey fan, so I told him we could watch the Stanley Cup game of TV pretty soon.
"Excellent," he said. "I have come to Love professional hockey. I watch it all the time on TV -- especially the Stanley Cup playoffs."

Patrick Roy's performance in the 2001 Stanley Cup Finals was one to worship.
"Well," I replied with a smile, "tonight is our lucky night. Game 1 is coming up on ESPN very soon. We will drink some more of this Tea and get ourselves Prepared for it."

"Bless you, Doc," he said. "We can Watch the game together, and then write a song about it." He paused momentarily and reached again for the teapot.... "This is very exciting," he said eagerly. " I can hardly wait to see Patrick Roy in action. He is one of my personal heroes. Roy is the finest athlete in Sports now. I worship him."

I nodded, but said nothing. There was a far-away look in his eyes now, and he spoke in an oddly Dreamy voice. I could see that he had forgotten all about his troubles in Utah, and now he was jabbering happily....
When the phone rang he ignored me and picked it up before I could get to it. "Patrick Roy fan club," he said. "Zevon speaking. We are ready for the game, here -- are you ready?" He laughed. "Are you a Bigamist? What? Don't lie to me, you yellow-bellied pervert!" Then he laughed again, and hung up.

"That will teach those Bigamists a lesson," he chuckled. "That fool will never call back!"
I jerked the phone away from him and told him to calm down. "You're starting to act weird," I told him. "Get a grip on yourself."

The game was the most dominating display of big time hockey either of us had ever seen. The Avalanche humiliated the favored defending champion N.J. Devils.
Patrick Roy got his shutout and "could have beaten N.J. all by himself," Zevon boasted. "He made midgets of us all. I will never forget this game. Our song will be called 'You're a Whole Different Person When You're Afraid.' "

Which proved to be true, when we played it back on his new-age Hugo machine 40 hours later.
Zevon is famous for his ability to stay awake for as long as it takes -- often for 85 or 90 straight hours. "I wrote 'Hit Somebody in 75 hours,' " he said, "and look what happened to that one."
Indeed. It rocketed to the top of the charts and was hailed as "the finest song ever written about hockey" by Rolling Stone and "Songs of the Rich and Famous."

Warren Zevon is as adept at songwriting as he is with a .44 magnum.
Warren Zevon is a poet. He has written more classics than any other musician of our time, with the possible exception of Bob Dylan. ... He is also a crack shot with a .44 magnum and an expert on lacrosse -- which we also watched while we worked. He went wild when Princeton beat Syracuse for the NCAA Championship on Sunday.

He disappeared in the middle of the night, still without sleep -- saying he was headed to Indianapolis to write a song with Colts owner James Irsay, who just returned from buying Kerouac's original manuscript of "On The Road" for $2.43 million at Christie's Auction House in New York. Irsay is another one of Warren's heroes.
Warren is a profoundly mysterious man, and I have learned not to argue with him, about hockey or anything else. He is a dangerous drinker, and a whole different person when he's afraid.

HST

[Lisab]

Playdo I am a huge Zevon fan and have been playing Excitable Boy the album lots lately. Thank you. Love him! Johnny Depp wants make the movie of his life apparently. He was never big here in the Uk, my dad loved him. I've introduced his music to alot of my friends.

Back on phone, sorry folks. Scrappy postin's probably!x

[eaglespirit]

The few hours of cloudless light before sunset are getting more phenomenal each day...
I came home on the main thoroughfare heading west...
the traffic was at a crawl, for no other reason than the penetrating sunlight!

I feel it is going to increase in intensity and brightness through this year in such a way that anyone with any feelings---even if they have been somewhat dormant, are going to be enthralled by the natural world around and above them.
Heightening of the senses is going to take on a whole new meaning and energy!

[dan33]

:) Thanks to Terence Stamp, for make me laugh.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yLiGbJLWi8

[dan33]

SLAP SHOT :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40e61PoonyU&feature=related

Dan, if Slapshot is the best hockey movie ever made, then Warren Zevon's song, "Hit Somebody" is the best ever hockey song! If you haven't heard it, check it out. Also, below is an article that Hunter S. Thopmson wrote about Zevon's composition of "Hit Somebody".

I was 13 when my father tipped the doorman a $20 at Hal and Mal's in downtown Jackson where Zevon was playing. It was the first and only time I saw him live. He had just left Little Rock, Arkansas, where one of his twelve-string acoustics was stolen form his tour bus, and he was royally pissed off. I was entranced the entire show. He was such a huge talent, and also very enigmatic. Anyhow, to bring some point to this, Zevon died of cancer in 2003. I am sorry to hear of your losses, Dan.

ufEtQcisrgg

Champions Roy and Warren Zevon
By Hunter S. Thompson
Page 2 columnist
http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1206003

Warren Zevon arrived at my house on Saturday and said he was in the mood to write a few songs about Hockey. "Thank God you're home," he said. "I had to drive all night to get out of Utah without being locked up. What's wrong with those people?"

"What people?" I asked him.

"The ones over in Utah," he said nervously. "They've been following me ever since Salt Lake City. They pulled me over at some kind of police checkpoint and accused me of being a Sex Offender -- I was terrified. They even had a picture of me."
"Nonsense," I said. "They're doing that to a lot of people, these days. They're rounding up the Bigamists before the Olympics start. They don't want to be embarrassed in the eyes of the world again."

Warren seemed far too frantic to do any serious song-writing, so I tried to calm him down with some of the fresh Jimson tea I'd brewed up for the Holiday. I knew he was a rabid hockey fan, so I told him we could watch the Stanley Cup game of TV pretty soon.
"Excellent," he said. "I have come to Love professional hockey. I watch it all the time on TV -- especially the Stanley Cup playoffs."

Patrick Roy's performance in the 2001 Stanley Cup Finals was one to worship.
"Well," I replied with a smile, "tonight is our lucky night. Game 1 is coming up on ESPN very soon. We will drink some more of this Tea and get ourselves Prepared for it."

"Bless you, Doc," he said. "We can Watch the game together, and then write a song about it." He paused momentarily and reached again for the teapot.... "This is very exciting," he said eagerly. " I can hardly wait to see Patrick Roy in action. He is one of my personal heroes. Roy is the finest athlete in Sports now. I worship him."

I nodded, but said nothing. There was a far-away look in his eyes now, and he spoke in an oddly Dreamy voice. I could see that he had forgotten all about his troubles in Utah, and now he was jabbering happily....
When the phone rang he ignored me and picked it up before I could get to it. "Patrick Roy fan club," he said. "Zevon speaking. We are ready for the game, here -- are you ready?" He laughed. "Are you a Bigamist? What? Don't lie to me, you yellow-bellied pervert!" Then he laughed again, and hung up.

"That will teach those Bigamists a lesson," he chuckled. "That fool will never call back!"
I jerked the phone away from him and told him to calm down. "You're starting to act weird," I told him. "Get a grip on yourself."

The game was the most dominating display of big time hockey either of us had ever seen. The Avalanche humiliated the favored defending champion N.J. Devils.
Patrick Roy got his shutout and "could have beaten N.J. all by himself," Zevon boasted. "He made midgets of us all. I will never forget this game. Our song will be called 'You're a Whole Different Person When You're Afraid.' "

Which proved to be true, when we played it back on his new-age Hugo machine 40 hours later.
Zevon is famous for his ability to stay awake for as long as it takes -- often for 85 or 90 straight hours. "I wrote 'Hit Somebody in 75 hours,' " he said, "and look what happened to that one."
Indeed. It rocketed to the top of the charts and was hailed as "the finest song ever written about hockey" by Rolling Stone and "Songs of the Rich and Famous."

Warren Zevon is as adept at songwriting as he is with a .44 magnum.
Warren Zevon is a poet. He has written more classics than any other musician of our time, with the possible exception of Bob Dylan. ... He is also a crack shot with a .44 magnum and an expert on lacrosse -- which we also watched while we worked. He went wild when Princeton beat Syracuse for the NCAA Championship on Sunday.

He disappeared in the middle of the night, still without sleep -- saying he was headed to Indianapolis to write a song with Colts owner James Irsay, who just returned from buying Kerouac's original manuscript of "On The Road" for $2.43 million at Christie's Auction House in New York. Irsay is another one of Warren's heroes.
Warren is a profoundly mysterious man, and I have learned not to argue with him, about hockey or anything else. He is a dangerous drinker, and a whole different person when he's afraid.

HST

Buff... thanks playdo, ..indeed.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

@ work, all clients warm inside, minus 14 celcius locally here, watching Equilibrium, great movie,with a nice cup of piping hot tea and a roll of cookies, i'll be just fine for tonight;)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Bad day. I've heard that several of my childhood friends have died. All about cancer. 1, 2, 3 ... There is no only one family. There is another family going back lifetimes ago. Talked to Chitina, her mother, this morning... all the beautiful past coming right now. I miss Carolina, who grew up together. Blessed be...

We have no one family, ....we are all realted.....

Thanks to all, and Nora

Strenght to you and your loved ones Dan, you take care of yourself now, this is important.

[Cottage Rose]

In my silly little world, the problem comes down to a question of authority. How does the chain of command, the line of cause and effect, get activated? Is it body/mind/spirit or spirit/mind/body?

Does affecting the body sweep repurcusions down the line of authority to the mind and spirit? Or is it the spirit that begins the chain that ends with the body? If it is the body, then we are in an untenable position because the body is subject to empirical laws over which it has no control. If the spirit is the creator of experience then we are left with a fall back position from which there is always hope, always a possibility of a miracle - a change of heart and beliefs.

We did not create ourselves. That is the biggest clue. So take heart, miracles are real - they are your birthright.
And the body goes where the mind leads and the spirit beckons.
All things are possible - even the impossible.
And that is good news indeed!

Love,
Ernie

I have problems with repeating myself, but sometimes it is ok, I guess.
Back to the metaphor of the 19th century taxi. A horse in front of a wodden carriage and it's coachman, all being approached by a potential passenger who needs a ride.
This passenger instructs the coachman, then gets into the carriage.
The coachman takes his position high up in front and slaps the horse to start moving.
Here you have it all...the carriage is the physical body,
the horse represents the emotions and instinct, the coachman the intellect,
and the passenger is the spirit of man.
Take this and play with it for a while.
The bottom line is the journey, and this is the journey of life itself.
Carriage, horse and coachman, all three are there to serve the passenger to make that journey possible.

If the horse is either too weak, or too willful, the journey will be disappointing,
like in the case of the coachman not taking care of the horse, nor carriage.
Both are under his command; they are his responsibility.

If he falls asleep the horse may stop, or run off, and the journey ends in disaster.
It is easy for him to forget about the passenger after a while,
since he is sitting inside the carriage, nearly hidden from view.
Also the coachman, being high up, might get distracted and while passing through some town want to do his own private errands.
Anyway, this can also be applied to cultures, where one can see evidence of horse, coachman and carriage not being in harmony.
The main thing of this metaphor is the message of the order of command.
Never to forget it must first be the passenger, then an obedient coachman, then his faithful horse, which keeps the whole show rolling.
If the coachman is useless sometimes the passenger might be able to get through to the horse directly, but that is not the ideal scenario.
Enjoy, especially useful to anyone who gives spiritual classes to kids and youth.

This analogy is beautiful, except there is another player not mentioned in this story. Perhaps 5% of a human mind is used for conscious activity...the intellect. The other 95% contains subconscious programing. Developing an alpha/theta state communication link between the conscious and subconscious minds is necessary to alter our subconscious belief system. Children walk around in alpha/theta. We all struggle with subconscious programming received during early childhood years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGi8KFraN-U

Dr. Bruce Lipton, Cellular Biologist... Author of Biology of Belief
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lipton


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDtWANbqdIU




What are Brainwaves?

Electroencephalography (EEG) is a study of changing electrical potential of the brain. The apparatus used to measure this electric potential of the brain is called electroencephalograph, and the tracing or the printout of the measured brainwave forms is electroencephalogram.

Frequency is the number of complete repetitive waves that occur in a given unit of time. Frequency is measured in Hertz (Hz) or cycles per second (cps). According to their frequency brainwaves are divided into 4 main groups, also referred to as "brain states"
EEG
Brainwave Sample
Brainwave
Frequency
State of Consciousness

Beta
14 - 40 cps
Fully Awake and Alert
Generally associated with left-brain thinking activity - conscious mind


Alpha
8 - 13 cps
Relaxed, Daydreaming
Generally associated with right-brain
thinking activity - subconscious mind
- a key state for "relaxation"


Theta
4 - 7 cps
Deeply Relaxed, Dreaming
Generally associated with right-brain
thinking activity - deeper subconscious to superconscious
Access to insights, bursts of creative ideas - a key state for "reality creation" through vivid imagery


Delta
0.5 - 3.5 cps
Dreamless
Generally associated with no thinking
- unconscious / superconscious
Access to non-physical states of existence - a key state for healing, "regeneration" and "rejuvenation"

Some research has been done associated with the activities and benefits of other brainwave frequencies, such as Super Beta, Gamma, etc.

The lower your brainwave cps, the more is your awareness turned toward your subjective experience, toward your inner world and the more effectively are you able to use the power of your mind to create changes in your body. With each lower state you become more fully aligned with the source of power within you, with your unconscious, or if you prefer, with that part of you that is greater than you (your body).

Generally in Beta state, your attention is focused outward. In alpha it begins to turn inward, and in theta and delta it goes further and further inward. The deeper you go, the more effectively are you able to enter your subconscious.

You can imagine that at the borderline between Beta and Alpha States is a doorway to your subconscious mind, and the doorway consists of what is hypnosis referred to as your "critical faculty".

And you can imagine that at the borderline between Alpha and Theta states is a doorway to your superconscious mind, where you begin to gain access to your "supernatural abilities", which for most people manifest as bursts of insight. The more time you spend in this state, even if you're not intentionally attempting to create a change, the more of these "abilities" begin to become part of you - you may simply notice that the time-lag between what you think and it's manifestation in your outer world becomes shorter and shorter.

And you can imagine that at the borderline that at the borderline between Theta and Delta, you're beginning to say "good-bye" to your physical experience of the world, as you're getting altogether into experiencing yourself as non-physical being. Here your body is only a thought in your mind. If you are able to maintain your consciousness at this level, you can effect instant changes in the outer world. In this state, you can transcend the "laws of the physical world" because you're not bound by them any more.

Whenever you think, you expand energy. In deep, dreamless Delta state, where your mind is fully resting, your body has the best opportunity to regenerate.

With meditative practice and self-hypnosis, you develop ability to remain conscious while getting progressively into deeper and deeper states. For example, a person without any mind training will tend to fall asleep when getting into theta state, while a person who has undergone some form of meditative mind-training will be able to be very deeply relaxed, yet conscious. The more you are able to remain conscious while in deeper states of mind, the less sleep will your require.


(Note: Hi Ulli. :grouphug: You, and those in the village probably already know the above, but I wrote it wondering if your post had anything to do with my pm of yesterday offering the self-hypnosis mp3 along with a friendly hand to hold while waiting.)

[1inMany]

Here and Now...it is very odd how one can be both exhausted and invigorated at the same time. Def a change for me. Spent the day in the country, cleaning and cleaning and cleaning. Didn't have time to unpack anything yet, so back to the city for the night. Hubby says my aura is shiny gold, like the metal. Hmmm. Hasn't been like that in a while. Ulli, I think you are right...again. This country move may well be a vortex. I knew you were right when you said that, but you are even more right this evening lol.

I had an epiphany of sorts today. I look to those who have gifts that I am not experiencing right now, and I think ...well, maybe I will be able to see auras one day (for example), or I might be able to focus my energies toward someone in need, or maybe I will this or that. My epiphany is that maybe I won't. It occurred to me that it's okay if I never do. It might not be a case of work yet to be done on my part, or a matter of which area I should pursue. Maybe...there is something I give that I do not recognize in myself. My magic is to be. That's kind of a weird epiphany, isn't it? lol

My Love is with you all...with those who are grieving or struggling, to those of you who are in such different places spiritually, to all of you who are caring...and sharing from the depths of your souls.

[Marianne]

1, you 'be' in a wonderful way!

My love to all the village as well ... hugs and good wishes for everyone.

Marianne

[ulli]

;)
Here and Now...it is very odd how one can be both exhausted and invigorated at the same time. Def a change for me. Spent the day in the country, cleaning and cleaning and cleaning. Didn't have time to unpack anything yet, so back to the city for the night. Hubby says my aura is shiny gold, like the metal. Hmmm. Hasn't been like that in a while. Ulli, I think you are right...again. This country move may well be a vortex. I knew you were right when you said that, but you are even more right this evening lol.

I had an epiphany of sorts today. I look to those who have gifts that I am not experiencing right now, and I think ...well, maybe I will be able to see auras one day (for example), or I might be able to focus my energies toward someone in need, or maybe I will this or that. My epiphany is that maybe I won't. It occurred to me that it's okay if I never do. It might not be a case of work yet to be done on my part, or a matter of which area I should pursue. Maybe...there is something I give that I do not recognize in myself. My magic is to be. That's kind of a weird epiphany, isn't it? lol

My Love is with you all...with those who are grieving or struggling, to those of you who are in such different places spiritually, to all of you who are caring...and sharing from the depths of your souls.

I had that epiphany myself and felt liberated ever since. When you can feel that special calmness that comes from just being there and going with the flow then life starts to become very rich. Magical, even.
I have a new passport now. That was quite an experience. Not only the amazingly thick traffic in town but the unbelievable security measures that have been put in place at that Embassy since ten years ago.
All of this newness gave today a vortex-like quality, for me as well. The new me entering the little ol' lady stage of life...my new passport picture testifies to that. Ah well, it is what it is. Take good care of your loved ones, everyone, even if they can't see the big picture yet. Or maybe, because they can't see it yet.

[modwiz]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402045_266032933464406_103384269729274_694303_1377418056_n.jpg

I had to go and check a news site to realize this was humor. It works either way, LOL.

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..........

The joke is on me. I was so hoping that at least one state would legalize cannabis that I fell for chiquetet's joke. It would mean so much to so many people in pain if it were true.

I fell for it too. I'm ready for miracles.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Just found this for Dan33, Belle and all those suffering losses. Hope this helps sooth your wounds. We are each going through these losses although they take many forms and measures. Besides this post, I wanted to post my favorite "End of Suffering" video once again. For all of us who are so tired of duality and 3D BS ~ we will get the most wonderful gift on Valentine's Day this year. Stay tuned as the 5th dimension is now within reach and this is cause for great celebrations! With so much love!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39977-Becoming-Fluent-in-the-Language-of-Transition-and-Loss-D.-L.-Zeta&p=419329#post419329




http://vimeo.com/6518109

[Patrikas]

Perhaps the rEVOLOUTION is catching on ...

CS9OO0S5w2k

[ViralSpiral]

Just found this for Dan33, Belle and all those suffering losses. Hope this helps sooth your wounds. We are each going through these losses although they take many forms and measures. Besides this post, I wanted to post my favorite "End of Suffering" video once again. For all of us who are so tired of duality and 3D BS ~ we will get the most wonderful gift on Valentine's Day this year. Stay tuned as the 5th dimension is now within reach and this is cause for great celebrations! With so much love!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39977-Becoming-Fluent-in-the-Language-of-Transition-and-Loss-D.-L.-Zeta&p=419329#post419329




http://vimeo.com/6518109


Thank you Darla

Big screen and head-phones..... that resonated deeply. Every cell vibrated.
I ♥ Thich Nath Hanh


Good morning villagers. I had a VERY good nights sleep. Not for weeks/months have I slept so soundly. I did not even move......book and glasses in same place :)

I am grateful

[modwiz]

Perhaps the rEVOLOUTION is catching on ...

CS9OO0S5w2k

Yeah! We could hold meetings at the RAMROD club pictured behind the group.

[Guest]

Belle and dan33 ouch, sorry for your losses. Really cool that you were there for their families.

Hey Dan I like it -we are all realted

Love

Nora

[astrid]

Belle and Dan my thoughts are with you both .
Sometimes its hard to finding the right words
I especially know this one. But making it known that
you are there speaks volumes.
I will add you both to my prayers tonight

[astrid]

Day one of workshop over with
was fun and worth doing.
But still I'm struggling being in the city
I had a mini melt down toward the end of the
day that I'm still processing . It's all good , just me
being really hard on myself and over sensitive to
being in a group . Will work on grounding and processing
tonight so I'm fresh for tomorrow .
Worried about Louis too, he won't eat in the kennels.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Perhaps the rEVOLOUTION is catching on ...

CS9OO0S5w2k

Yeah! We could hold meetings at the RAMROD club pictured behind the group.

Stop being that sharp Mod, that observation just scared the crap outta me.:p

Just when getting used to the village peoples humor, eighties mustaches show up.

May the Schwartz be with us for all eternity

[modwiz]

I do not support the Dem/Repub. political game they are just catch basins for basic emotions. I did find this video from Gilad Atzmon's site amusing, The voice of the narrator is right out of South Park. I do caution our Southern USA Villagers that there may be some tricky comments made here about that region of our country. The video title is, "How Stupid Are republicans?". I post this for humor. No political statement is being made in the posting of this video. Stupid is as stupid does, not what IQ scores are.

F9GMwlx2XxA

[meeradas]

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The wiz fixed his, so this is
another obsolete post of mine.

[ViralSpiral]

How are you feeling Meeredas?

[ViralSpiral]

I do not support the Dem/Repub. political game they are just catch basins for basic emotions. I did find this video from Gilad Atzmon's site amusing, The voice of the narrator is right out of South Park. I do caution our Southern USA Villagers that there may be some tricky comments made here about that region of our country. The video title is, "How Stupid Are republicans?". I post this for humor. No political statement is being made in the posting of this video. Stupid is as stupid does, not what IQ scores are.

F9GMwlx2XxA

http://ababneh.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/spot.png

[meeradas]

How are you feeling Meeredas?

This (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39834-Have-you-been-tired-lately&p=418539#post418539) shall serve as the only appropriate answer.
Good night y'all.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I do not support the Dem/Repub. political game they are just catch basins for basic emotions. I did find this video from Gilad Atzmon's site amusing, The voice of the narrator is right out of South Park. I do caution our Southern USA Villagers that there may be some tricky comments made here about that region of our country. The video title is, "How Stupid Are republicans?". I post this for humor. No political statement is being made in the posting of this video. Stupid is as stupid does, not what IQ scores are.

F9GMwlx2XxA

No fun intended here but are those presented iq number samples a current factual representation ?

I am not from the states so i would have not as good information on that as you do.

[ViralSpiral]

How are you feeling Meeredas?

This (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39834-Have-you-been-tired-lately&p=418539#post418539) shall serve as the only appropriate answer.
Good night y'all.

Let this one be a good one


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs18/f/2007/158/e/6/Hug_emoticon_by_smiekie.gif

[modwiz]

No fun intended here but are those presented iq number samples a current factual representation ?

I am not from the states so i would have not as good information on that as you do.

Could be 10 years old by now, don't know and don't care. I thought the sarcastic remarks by the narrator were funny.

[PurpleLama]

Meerdas, for you:

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[eaglespirit]

...expressing my silent Condolences openly to Belle and Dan33 and all the Good People in Your Lives affected by the Passings.

I may be making some New Connections with this wonderful place of Peace that is in transition...
felt it important to share with My Family 'Here and Now' and the Village Love Rhythms.

http://www.peaceabbey.org/about/
http://www.peaceabbey.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/oval-gandhi.jpg

[Belle]

Thank you all for your condolences and support. Loss is a part of life. Grief is a necessary process. Sharing the journey lightens the load, and makes easier the path to joyful memories of a life well lived.

And thank you, eaglespirit, for the reminder of the peace abbey...haven't been there in more than a few years. Started bringing my children there when we first moved to Mass. in the early 80's, and now my daughter brings her children there. The energy is amazing.

It reminds me of another place I've spent quite a bit of time...The Gutherie Center at the Old Trinity Church in Great Barrington. When he could still walk, my son would try out his original music at the "hootenanny" they hold most Thursday nights. The support, acceptance and encouragement was wonderful to behold.

http://guthriecenter.org/


Philosophy
We respect the rich heritage that our Jewish, Buddhist, Christian, Hindu and Moslem ancestors have handed down over the centuries. We anguish with traditional peoples everywhere whose ways of life are disappearing in the modern world. We struggle with them to preserve their own ways when they are threatened such as in Tibet or here in North America. Our teachers are from many paths and many traditions.

And following in the present day traditions of service and compassion as exemplified by Ma Jaya Sati Bhagavati, Neem Karoli Baba, Swami Nityananda and others, the activities at the Trinity Church are flexibly designed to serve the ongoing needs of the local and international community.

On the door entering the church Ma wrote:
One God – Many Forms
One River – Many Streams
One People – Many Faces
One Mother – Many Children

Ma, an internationally respected spiritual teacher, presided over the opening night celebrations as the center was re-consecrated to the service for which it was originally intended – Service to God and to all sentient beings.

[eaglespirit]

Good Morning Belle...was going to pm You but Your post prompted me to share right here.

Felt Your Energy Connection in regard to the Peace Abbey as I was taking steps to follow through with the possibility of going there and having a meeting and experiencing the grounds and buildings and people ...this door was opened by my Spiritual Friends in Uxbridge.

Much more to the story but You were and are in the Spiritual 'music' of it all : ) Thank You!

[Belle]

Good morning, eaglespirit.

If you haven't been to the Peace Abbey yet, you are in for a real treat. It causes my heart to open wide and experience the Oneness of all. A truly "magical" place...as tho' not of space and time.

[ulli]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.
Somehow I need to access that fountain of eternal youth that is supposedly within me, I just can't seem to find the tap.
If old furniture can be made to look pretty why not me?

http://hgtv.sndimg.com/HGTV/2004/01/26/dct2004_chest_lg.jpg

[modwiz]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.
Somehow I need to access that fountain of eternal youth that is supposedly within me, I just can't seem to find the tap.
If old furniture can be made to look pretty why not me?

http://hgtv.sndimg.com/HGTV/2004/01/26/dct2004_chest_lg.jpg

Don't worry about the eternal youth part, you will still be pretty. I have skyped with you in all kinds of light. Be confident and stand up straight. Posture helps tremendously.

On a similar note: Whilst perusing my photos during the day I put a bunch up I saw a lot that captured me in a most flattering light. I could allow myself to rue that certain 'powers' have been lost to me, but that would be silly. I am a much better person now than then, so it seems that being who I am now comes with looking like I do now. I'll take who I am now over how I looked then. I won't agonize over the 'if I could only combine that body with this spirit' mindfark either.

Just have a good Buddha-field and help people upgrade their DNA.

[benevolentcrow]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.
Somehow I need to access that fountain of eternal youth that is supposedly within me, I just can't seem to find the tap.
If old furniture can be made to look pretty why not me?

http://hgtv.sndimg.com/HGTV/2004/01/26/dct2004_chest_lg.jpg

Don't worry about the eternal youth part, you will still be pretty. I have skyped with you in all kinds of light. Be confident and stand up straight. Posture helps tremendously.

On a similar note: Whilst perusing my photos during the day I put a bunch up I saw a lot that captured me in a most flattering light. I could allow myself to rue that certain 'powers' have been lost to me, but that would be silly. I am a much better person now than then, so it seems that being who I am now comes with looking like I do now. I'll take who I am now over how I looked then. I won't agonize over the 'if I could only combine that body with this spirit' mindfark either.

Just have a good Buddha-field and help people upgrade their DNA.

I absolutely love this post! I sometimes walk by the looking glass and wonder who is that! Then sometimes I look in the mirror I like my well worn face and I deserve every wrinkle and wear it proudly! I wonder what is yet to come. My mother is 89 this year and is extremely frail, and was wondering do I want to go there. Then I was watching Betty White's 90th birthday celebration, alive and vibrant. I remember her being quoted as saying “Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding” Humor I think is the solution to growing older!! Ulli, that piece of furniture is beautiful, did you refinish it? Modwiz you are a dear heart!! Love to you both and all of the villagers out there. Have a great Saturday. Going to be another beautiful day today!

[ulli]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.
Somehow I need to access that fountain of eternal youth that is supposedly within me, I just can't seem to find the tap.
If old furniture can be made to look pretty why not me?



Don't worry about the eternal youth part, you will still be pretty. I have skyped with you in all kinds of light. Be confident and stand up straight. Posture helps tremendously.

On a similar note: Whilst perusing my photos during the day I put a bunch up I saw a lot that captured me in a most flattering light. I could allow myself to rue that certain 'powers' have been lost to me, but that would be silly. I am a much better person now than then, so it seems that being who I am now comes with looking like I do now. I'll take who I am now over how I looked then. I won't agonize over the 'if I could only combine that body with this spirit' mindfark either.

Just have a good Buddha-field and help people upgrade their DNA.

I absolutely love this post! I sometimes walk by the looking glass and wonder who is that! Then sometimes I look in the mirror I like my well worn face and I deserve every wrinkle and wear it proudly! I wonder what is yet to come. My mother is 89 this year and is extremely frail, and was wondering do I want to go there. Then I was watching Betty White's 90th birthday celebration, alive and vibrant. I remember her being quoted as saying “Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding” Humor I think is the solution to growing older!! Ulli, that piece of furniture is beautiful, did you refinish it? Modwiz you are a dear heart!! Love to you both and all of the villagers out there. Have a great Saturday. Going to be another beautiful day today!

Hello Crow,
I wish I had done. I found the picture this morning on the HGTV website. House and Garden TV.
I used to fix up old pieces but on this one they did a better job than I ever did.
Astrid also is skilled in this kind of work.

Modwiz' answer will reach a lot of us older birds and put balm on hurt feelings. He is good like that.
I will walk tall today when I make my entrance at the party.
Sunny here, and warming up slowly.

[astrid]

Ulli funny you should speak of this "face we show the world"
topic .Sometimes when I venture out my dormant ex fashionista
self springs out and starts carrying on about how I have an
image to uphold, at which I laughed and said oh yes which one
would that be ? At which point it calms down and stops
trying to tell me what to wear , lol
I found I really interesting recently when I went out vintage
clothes shopping and I couldn't work out what I liked .
My tastes have really changed . My preferred color palate
before was more muted now it's very clear clean colors
I thought that so interesting given the colors we wear and
are drawn to can be an indication of what we need for
our healing and or what chakras we are mostly expressing
through. I remember once I was doing up this house,
I was going a period of shadow work and had an
episode of depression. When I went back and did a rental
inspection some time after on said house I couldn't believe
how dull and dark it seemed . I thought that was fascinating .

I used to dress, and still do more masculine, but lately
I have this feminine aspect trying to find her voice but
she's still unsure if it's safe to come out .

In one of the journeys we did in class today, when
we were paired up with .a stranger I asked the question,
" what do I need most right now to focus on "
My partner who didn't know me at all came back with
Images of music , dancing fun and feminine clothes ,
I had to laugh . The night before I had half my wardrobe
out trying to work out which aspects to express to the
world . There is one area of shamanic work that uses masks
and mask making as a healing tool, I guess in a way we do that
with how we dress and the face we decide to present to the world
it's an interesting subject .
Of course a whole industry is born around selling us masks to get
us to " feel better" temporarily or course , until we get the credit
card bill , lol
But when we look at this from a development
angle and a letting aspects and archetypes express and
play out it can be loads of fun and very healing exercise
I guess why as children we like to play dress ups, and
Why adults when given " license " to do so as in a costume
or cross dressing party can have so much of a blast
doing it . We get shuffled onto this very narrow " bandwidth"
of social acceptibility so often we don't get to express
other aspects . So these aspects Instead come out in our
projections onto others .
For sure this year for me is going to be bringing forward
some lost aspects, and it's been a long time coming .

[Lisab]

Walk tall ulli, your lovely, you'll be fine. Have a wonderful night.

[Patrikas]

Perhaps the rEVOLOUTION is catching on ...

CS9OO0S5w2k

Yeah! We could hold meetings at the RAMROD club pictured behind the group.

Not sure if this is NY prolly u guys would know

Wonder what the foods like M W ?

And would that be a "Staff" meeting ........;)

[Mike]

Then we are set up for an extra +6 billion (pop stand) lemonade buyers.

If life gives you lemons.... :)

My first intro into this world was Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss. Even without verifiable proof, it was pretty convincing. Easier, obliviously, if one has the propensity for such things.
Serendipity just sent me another book via pdf, from WhiteFeather. Dolores Cannons' Keepers of the Garden - about 'et's" on earth.
If I could look into your eyes Carmody.....

http://www.millerfilm.com/spacelinks/wink_emoticon.bmp

regarding 'pop stands'. It's a reference to leaving a place in haste and with a slight emphasis. A colorful US based English line of "let's blow this pop stand", and they spin off in a cloud of hen sh!t and small rocks, in their big american muscle car (as they left the farm)(chickens flying about as they tried to get out of the way of the noise and dust/rocks). AKA backwoods boys having some fun.

Your phrase brought a humorous recollection I have, Carmody. I once was out with some of my band members on a beach off of Long Island NY. It was Fire Island. We had taken the ferry to one part of the Island but decided to walk the beach for a few miles and take a different ferry off. Fire Island has a part of it that is almost exclusively gay and that is the part we had walked to. We were thirsty after our walk and popped into a bar. All men and all gay. Of course, no biggie, we had out refreshment and were ignored, being both 'out-of-towners' and straight. When I had realized it was time to leave I said in voice loud enough to be heard by anyone in the quiet bar, "OK. Let's blow this joint". The whole bar suddenly looked up and at me. My impish smile conveyed that I was 'just turning a phrase'. Yeah right!

My coyote medicine having some fun.


that story is hilarious. reminds me an experience i had at a sporting good store when i was about 18 or 19...

i was working on this particular day, and a young boy was with his father in the archery section when i approached them from behind. the father was scolding the youngster for touching all the archery equipment. i rested my hand on the boy's shoulder and told him to be careful, finishing with, "you could poke your eye out with that thing."

the father turned around. the guy was wearing an eye patch.

[Mike]

i've got another one...

was visiting my friend in Long Beach, CA, and stopped in a cafe for decaf tea. i had the distinct feeling that i was being watched, but chalked it up to paranoia. i sat by myself and read the paper, finishing my tea after about 20mins or so.

i made my way to the trash, and by now i was certain i was being stared at. it was blatant. wtf is going on here, i thought.

i exited the place and started back to my buddy's condo when i overheard this guy on the outdoor patio compliment my ass. i finally put 2n2 together and scurried away, feeling a wee bit uncomfortable. it was so awkward that i felt compelled to dip into the nearest place to get away from this guy's eyes, so i did, taking a quick left into an as yet unidentified store.

turns out it was a gay novelty shop. the first thing i saw was a dildo the size of a fire hydrant. i was horrified. not because i'm some sort of homophobe, but because i felt i was really giving the wrong impression here;)

as i exited the store this guy was standing outside, an ear to ear grin plastered on his face. it seems he felt he found a love match. i brushed past him and practically sprinted down the sidewalk LOL

on my way back to my friend's place i walked past the cafe and wondered how on earth i could have missed the the gigantic rainbow flag flapping in the wind out front. between the gay cafe and the novelty store, i was unknowingly making an inaccurate announcement about myself that put me in quite the awkward spot. anyway, needless to say i became a much better observer after that.

[ulli]

Ulli funny you should speak of this "face we show the world"
topic .Sometimes when I venture out my dormant ex fashionista
self springs out and starts carrying on about how I have an
image to uphold, at which I laughed and said oh yes which one
would that be ? At which point it calms down and stops
trying to tell me what to wear , lol
I found I really interesting recently when I went out vintage
clothes shopping and I couldn't work out what I liked .
My tastes have really changed . My preferred color palate
before was more muted now it's very clear clean colors
I thought that so interesting given the colors we wear and
are drawn to can be an indication of what we need for
our healing and or what chakras we are mostly expressing
through. I remember once I was doing up this house,
I was going a period of shadow work and had an
episode of depression. When I went back and did a rental
inspection some time after on said house I couldn't believe
how dull and dark it seemed . I thought that was fascinating .

I used to dress, and still do more masculine, but lately
I have this feminine aspect trying to find her voice but
she's still unsure if it's safe to come out .

In one of the journeys we did in class today, when
we were paired up with .a stranger I asked the question,
" what do I need most right now to focus on "
My partner who didn't know me at all came back with
Images of music , dancing fun and feminine clothes ,
I had to laugh . The night before I had half my wardrobe
out trying to work out which aspects to express to the
world . There is one area of shamanic work that uses masks
and mask making as a healing tool, I guess in a way we do that
with how we dress and the face we decide to present to the world
it's an interesting subject .
Of course a whole industry is born around selling us masks to get
us to " feel better" temporarily or course , until we get the credit
card bill , lol
But when we look at this from a development
angle and a letting aspects and archetypes express and
play out it can be loads of fun and very healing exercise
I guess why as children we like to play dress ups, and
Why adults when given " license " to do so as in a costume
or cross dressing party can have so much of a blast
doing it . We get shuffled onto this very narrow " bandwidth"
of social acceptibility so often we don't get to express
other aspects . So these aspects Instead come out in our
projections onto others .
For sure this year for me is going to be bringing forward
some lost aspects, and it's been a long time coming .

Thanks for sharing that. I have always been aware of whatever we put on being a mask.
It's always a costume of disguise.
After all, the most honest way of dressing would be the birthday suit. Any extra layer, and decisions have to be made. Adapting to temperature, culture, and finally self expression.
I had a friend who when asked why he was wearing a sleeveless vest he said he couldn't find anything else that was clean.
Fact was I later discovered he relished in his Marlon Brando 'Street Car Named Desire' look. It's ok, to do that...but what a clever way to hide vanity.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3005/5761225392_72442a8648_z.jpg



Each collection I ever designed was aimed at the perfect balance of functionality and comfort, as well as attractiveness. After that there was a color range from which customers could choose.
If I ever put anything garish in the shop it was done with the aim to guide them to what was wearable.

[ViralSpiral]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.


Just a little lipstick Ulli, you'll be fine






YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!

http://www.smileystar.com/emoticons/msn-love-emoticons/lipstick.gif

[ulli]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.


Just a little lipstick Ulli, you'll be fine






YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!

http://www.smileystar.com/emoticons/msn-love-emoticons/lipstick.gif


That won't keep me warm, Dahling!!!

[ulli]

Has anyone noticed- a rainbow icon has appeared in front of the Avalon URL recently.
No wonder the subject matter has shifted around here....

P.S. Chinasky, were have you been? ...been missing you....

[ViralSpiral]

Have to go to a birthday party today and want to look pretty.


Just a little lipstick Ulli, you'll be fine






YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!!

http://www.smileystar.com/emoticons/msn-love-emoticons/lipstick.gif


That won't keep me warm, Dahling!!!

Then dance! If you show me your wardrobe, I'll dress ya! ;)

Yes I see the rainbow.


In the meantime.... young Marlon...... HUBBA HUBBA!!!!

[ulli]

that story is hilarious. reminds me an experience i had at a sporting good store when i was about 18 or 19...

i was working on this particular day, and a young boy was with his father in the archery section when i approached them from behind. the father was scolding the youngster for touching all the archery equipment. i rested my hand on the boy's shoulder and told him to be careful, finishing with, "you could poke your eye out with that thing."

the father turned around. the guy was wearing an eye patch.


I wish I'd been there to see your expression.


http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/77/65/43166577/photos/Graphs/funny-graphs-eye-patch.jpg

[ViralSpiral]

Is its a night-time-dancing-kinda-party?

Mood music

SbyAZQ45uww

[dan33]

Just found this for Dan33, Belle and all those suffering losses. Hope this helps sooth your wounds. We are each going through these losses although they take many forms and measures. Besides this post, I wanted to post my favorite "End of Suffering" video once again. For all of us who are so tired of duality and 3D BS ~ we will get the most wonderful gift on Valentine's Day this year. Stay tuned as the 5th dimension is now within reach and this is cause for great celebrations! With so much love!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39977-Becoming-Fluent-in-the-Language-of-Transition-and-Loss-D.-L.-Zeta&p=419329#post419329




http://vimeo.com/6518109


Thanks, Darla. :)

[dan33]

[QUOTE=dan33;419037]SLAP SHOT :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40e61PoonyU&feature=related

Dan, if Slapshot is the best hockey movie ever made, then Warren Zevon's song, "Hit Somebody" is the best ever hockey song! If you haven't heard it, check it out. Also, below is an article that Hunter S. Thopmson wrote about Zevon's composition of "Hit Somebody".

I was 13 when my father tipped the doorman a $20 at Hal and Mal's in downtown Jackson where Zevon was playing. It was the first and only time I saw him live. He had just left Little Rock, Arkansas, where one of his twelve-string acoustics was stolen form his tour bus, and he was royally pissed off. I was entranced the entire show. He was such a huge talent, and also very enigmatic. Anyhow, to bring some point to this, Zevon died of cancer in 2003. I am sorry to hear of your losses, Dan.

ufEtQcisrgg

Champions Roy and Warren Zevon
By Hunter S. Thompson
Page 2 columnist
http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1206003

Warren Zevon arrived at my house on Saturday and said he was in the mood to write a few songs about Hockey. "Thank God you're home," he said. "I had to drive all night to get out of Utah without being locked up. What's wrong with those people?"

"What people?" I asked him.

"The ones over in Utah," he said nervously. "They've been following me ever since Salt Lake City. They pulled me over at some kind of police checkpoint and accused me of being a Sex Offender -- I was terrified. They even had a picture of me."
"Nonsense," I said. "They're doing that to a lot of people, these days. They're rounding up the Bigamists before the Olympics start. They don't want to be embarrassed in the eyes of the world again."

Warren seemed far too frantic to do any serious song-writing, so I tried to calm him down with some of the fresh Jimson tea I'd brewed up for the Holiday. I knew he was a rabid hockey fan, so I told him we could watch the Stanley Cup game of TV pretty soon.
"Excellent," he said. "I have come to Love professional hockey. I watch it all the time on TV -- especially the Stanley Cup playoffs."

Patrick Roy's performance in the 2001 Stanley Cup Finals was one to worship.
"Well," I replied with a smile, "tonight is our lucky night. Game 1 is coming up on ESPN very soon. We will drink some more of this Tea and get ourselves Prepared for it."

"Bless you, Doc," he said. "We can Watch the game together, and then write a song about it." He paused momentarily and reached again for the teapot.... "This is very exciting," he said eagerly. " I can hardly wait to see Patrick Roy in action. He is one of my personal heroes. Roy is the finest athlete in Sports now. I worship him."

I nodded, but said nothing. There was a far-away look in his eyes now, and he spoke in an oddly Dreamy voice. I could see that he had forgotten all about his troubles in Utah, and now he was jabbering happily....
When the phone rang he ignored me and picked it up before I could get to it. "Patrick Roy fan club," he said. "Zevon speaking. We are ready for the game, here -- are you ready?" He laughed. "Are you a Bigamist? What? Don't lie to me, you yellow-bellied pervert!" Then he laughed again, and hung up.

"That will teach those Bigamists a lesson," he chuckled. "That fool will never call back!"
I jerked the phone away from him and told him to calm down. "You're starting to act weird," I told him. "Get a grip on yourself."

The game was the most dominating display of big time hockey either of us had ever seen. The Avalanche humiliated the favored defending champion N.J. Devils.
Patrick Roy got his shutout and "could have beaten N.J. all by himself," Zevon boasted. "He made midgets of us all. I will never forget this game. Our song will be called 'You're a Whole Different Person When You're Afraid.' "

Which proved to be true, when we played it back on his new-age Hugo machine 40 hours later.
Zevon is famous for his ability to stay awake for as long as it takes -- often for 85 or 90 straight hours. "I wrote 'Hit Somebody in 75 hours,' " he said, "and look what happened to that one."
Indeed. It rocketed to the top of the charts and was hailed as "the finest song ever written about hockey" by Rolling Stone and "Songs of the Rich and Famous."

Warren Zevon is as adept at songwriting as he is with a .44 magnum.
Warren Zevon is a poet. He has written more classics than any other musician of our time, with the possible exception of Bob Dylan. ... He is also a crack shot with a .44 magnum and an expert on lacrosse -- which we also watched while we worked. He went wild when Princeton beat Syracuse for the NCAA Championship on Sunday.

He disappeared in the middle of the night, still without sleep -- saying he was headed to Indianapolis to write a song with Colts owner James Irsay, who just returned from buying Kerouac's original manuscript of "On The Road" for $2.43 million at Christie's Auction House in New York. Irsay is another one of Warren's heroes.
Warren is a profoundly mysterious man, and I have learned not to argue with him, about hockey or anything else. He is a dangerous drinker, and a whole different person when he's afraid.

HST

Hi Playdo (The Dinosaur Whisperer), here is a gem from the movie. Excellent Paul Newman and a lesson to how to not enter in a fight. I always laugh.

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...and thanks to the village for yesterday support.

PS: I have to translate the dream "dreamed" last night.

[lake]

Seem to have stumbled on a site which has all the info on animal health ref virus's around the world but not as I can find in the USA.

Not sure that I should be there but didn't hack it, just fell on it?

To change pages you need to change the reportid=11586 id, in the address line, so from 11586 to 11587 etc

Few items:
UK has had Schmallenberg virus confirmed since 23.01.2012 http://web.oie.int/wahis/public.php?page=single_report&pop=1&reportid=11539

Australia has now its first case of avian H5 http://web.oie.int/wahis/public.php?page=single_report&pop=1&reportid=11554

Israel has a MAJOR problem with Newcaslte virus millions of birds culled, no cure, http://web.oie.int/wahis/public.php?page=single_report&pop=1&reportid=11071

Russia, India, China the list goes on and on... many many problems, millions destroyed.
Just take the 9 million oysters destroyed, http://web.oie.int/wahis/public.php?page=single_report&pop=1&reportid=9527 or the fact of salmon found to have virus's but were sold and I quote
This population had been slaughtered for human consumption by the time definitive laboratory results for ISA virus were available this is 175000 fish! http://web.oie.int/wahis/public.php?page=single_report&pop=1&reportid=7717

I cant go through all this my self and once its known that anyone can just go in there, it will be stopped!
So what do you think?

Edit:

Have not posted a thread for this as want us if possible to get as much information from it as possible befor its closed!

[dan33]

Last night I had a dream. I met at her house Ulli. Big house, columns, roman style may be ... roman baths. Ulli was extremely tanned. She shows me the house. Then, we go upstairs With Two cildren to met the Healer (Ulli has a photo of This man on her bedroom, black and white. I
He has a black beard).
We met the healer. His eyes are very strange and powerful. They are white With The Tree of Life (Sephiroth) image in each.
Then Becomes the very intense part. I feel His hands. A lot of energy, it's like a psychic surgeon .... I penetrates the body ... the energetic body ... and maybe beyond. Very Intense.
I do not remember anything more.

The Tree of Life, an image.
The 22 paths of the Tree has a correspondence with each 22 Major Arcana of the Tarot.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tq12_eNGN-A/TLlsAAfrsMI/AAAAAAAAAas/2PICqntLc4I/s1600/Tree%2520of%2520Life.jpg

[dan33]

Ulli, have a great party. You're wonderful in 3d and in dreams. :)

[Carmody]

Finally found the Gary Larson illustration that I feel 'epitomizes' the entire forum, in some ways. I've been looking for it, trying to find it on line, for years.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0vtutqT9g1qz7s3bo1_500.png

[CD7]

Hahahahhahaha, hilarious

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I just been sent this video.

Can anyone confirm if there is any truth in this pleas?



Troops on the streets in Santa Monica ? Possible nuke dirty bomb soon for L.A. ?

U7BlnRKKYNk

[ViralSpiral]

I just been sent this video.

Can anyone confirm if there is any truth in this pleas?



Troops on the streets in Santa Monica ? Possible nuke dirty bomb soon for L.A. ?

U7BlnRKKYNk


Welcome :)

Suggestion: Start a thread?

[modwiz]

I just been sent this video.

Can anyone confirm if there is any truth in this pleas?



Troops on the streets in Santa Monica ? Possible nuke dirty bomb soon for L.A. ?

U7BlnRKKYNk

That video is to well produced for what it purports to be, a distraught citizen making a quick video on their cell phone or web-cam. The logos and music were too slick. I think it is psy-ops to try and make the plebes nervous. Psychopaths enjoy messing with people.

Just my American opinion. Albeit, I am no average American. I can find Armenia on a map, LOL.

[Mike]

Has anyone noticed- a rainbow icon has appeared in front of the Avalon URL recently.
No wonder the subject matter has shifted around here....

P.S. Chinasky, were have you been? ...been missing you....


miss you too Ulli;)

i've actually been trying to write a book. it's something i've wanted to do for some time, and now i'm finally doing it. funny, i always thought i'd just sit down and it would all just come pouring out of me...doesn't work that way! LOL. i've scrapped 3 or 4 drafts now. it's maddening. maddening and fulfilling all at the same time.

between that and work and all the rest of it, i just don't have a ton of time these days. i expect to be busy with this project for a while, but i'll definitely be stopping in to say hello now and again. this place - this thread in particular - is energetically refreshing. did you ever think it would go for 437 pgs!?!....and counting;)

[ViralSpiral]

WOW Chinaski! Good luck!

Don't forget the deadline:- Dec. 21, 2012

;)

[Mike]

WOW Chinaski! Good luck!

Don't forget the deadline:- Dec. 21, 2012

;)

LOL! thanks for the reminder v.spiral!

actually, you know what got me started? (rhetorical question;)) there was this guy, this inspirational speaker/writer or something, on 'Coast' who has some workshop with the premise being - what if you only had 1 yr to live? what would you do?

he interviewed people on their death bed and asked what they would have done different. 1 of the the biggest regrets was wasting time, which wasn't surprising to me because i've worked with the terminally ill and have heard them say similar things. anyway, listening to the guy helped me find my inspiration.

wish i could remember his name???

so the Dec 21rst thing does hold a little relevance to me...ironically and perhaps a little creepily lol

[PurpleLama]

Ha, chinaski, love the new signature but I miss the ugly mug (avatar).

[Mark]

happy writing chinaski! i'm about 70 pages into mine and keep getting distracted by new gurus and trips to neptune. i need to focus.
:tea:

[ViralSpiral]

WOW Chinaski! Good luck!

Don't forget the deadline:- Dec. 21, 2012

;)

LOL! thanks for the reminder v.spiral!

actually, you know what got me started? (rhetorical question;)) there was this guy, this inspirational speaker/writer or something, on 'Coast' who has some workshop with the premise being - what if you only had 1 yr to live? what would you do?

he interviewed people on their death bed and asked what they would have done different. 1 of the the biggest regrets was wasting time, which wasn't surprising to me because i've worked with the terminally ill and have heard them say similar things. anyway, listening to the guy helped me find my inspiration.

wish i could remember his name???

so the Dec 21rst thing does hold a little relevance to me...ironically and perhaps a little creepily lol

And you know what else is synchronistic?
I listened to that interview too. It was done on the 21.12.2011. Was it Clint Arthur?

2ATrh_ABaj8


There is no such thing as coincidence


♥

[onawah]

That's great, Chinaski.
You've inspired me. Thanks.
I started working on my life story about 2 years ago, but it's been gathering dust for a while now.
I really do want to finish it.
There is too much to distract on the Net.
But I'm feeling like the major things that have been distracting me are going to wind down this year.
It feels like a good time to get to work again.
We could start a thread in the Express Yourself subforum and have a writer's support group.
Avalon is one of the few places where I think I wouldn't be viewed as TOO weird if I posted some excerpts here!



Has anyone noticed- a rainbow icon has appeared in front of the Avalon URL recently.
No wonder the subject matter has shifted around here....

P.S. Chinasky, were have you been? ...been missing you....


miss you too Ulli;)

i've actually been trying to write a book. it's something i've wanted to do for some time, and now i'm finally doing it. funny, i always thought i'd just sit down and it would all just come pouring out of me...doesn't work that way! LOL. i've scrapped 3 or 4 drafts now. it's maddening. maddening and fulfilling all at the same time.

between that and work and all the rest of it, i just don't have a ton of time these days. i expect to be busy with this project for a while, but i'll definitely be stopping in to say hello now and again. this place - this thread in particular - is energetically refreshing. did you ever think it would go for 437 pgs!?!....and counting;)

[Mike]

Ha, chinaski, love the new signature but I miss the ugly mug (avatar).

yeah, Bukowski is an ugly bastard but i always found the guy oddly handsome (in a very very unconventioanl way lol)

i'll bring him back eventually, in some shape or form.

[onawah]

Those not familiar with Bukowski might be intrigued.
I saw a couple of documentaries about him, and they are high on my list of favorite docs.
Not for the squeamish, though.

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[ViralSpiral]

happy writing chinaski! i'm about 70 pages into mine and keep getting distracted by new gurus and trips to neptune. i need to focus.
:tea:


Good luck to you too Rahkyt! When complete, please don't forget the donate button ;)


Seriously, I'll buy it!

[Mike]

ViralSpiral thanks for posting this! yes, very synchronistic. and very cool, too. great to hear this again.

@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me;) like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

@Onawah, you have quite a story to tell! i order you to write it!!! lol. i recall a few of your posts detailing your most interesting life experiences, health challenges, adversity etc...i was really moved by it. would be a shame if it wasn't put down on paper! do it!

[onawah]

Thanks Chinaski.
I guess I'll have to start that writer's thread now, and walk my talk.
Hope to see you there.

[Mike]

Thanks Chinaski.
I guess I'll have to start that writer's thread now, and walk my talk.
Hope to see you there.

i think it's a great idea!

[ulli]

Thanks Chinaski.
I guess I'll have to start that writer's thread now, and walk my talk.
Hope to see you there.

i think it's a great idea!

So do I. By the time every book that was started in the last few months rolls off the printing press there will be no one left who is able to read a book from cover to cover.
Even long posts will pose a challenge.
2012 will be the year where all communication will become reduced to slogans. After that, telepathy.

[Carmody]

Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

[Mike]

Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

a what-o-logy?

is that when you write sequel after sequel until you reach 10 or 12 books or something???

you frequently leave me feeling so ignorant, Carmody;)

[Mike]

Thanks Chinaski.
I guess I'll have to start that writer's thread now, and walk my talk.
Hope to see you there.

i think it's a great idea!

So do I. By the time every book that was started in the last few months rolls off the printing press there will be no one left who is able to read a book from cover to cover.
Even long posts will pose a challenge.
2012 will be the year where all communication will become reduced to slogans. After that, telepathy.

so sad though, don't ya think?

i love holding a book in my hands, smelling the pages and the ink, adjusting to the rhythyms of the author and getting into the story.

there is no denying that it is the text era; and i fear the extinction of the book is near, but i'm gonna go ahead and write the damn thing anyway...

[Mark]

Seriously, I'll buy it!

Heheh. You get a special donate email. :thumb:


@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me;) like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

I hear you. A difficult proposition, have you ever published before? Do you have non-fiction or fiction that you've written previously or is this your first work, if I may ask?


i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

The world as it currently stands, some of the issues we are facing as a world, from my unique perspective as a perpetual outsider. I'm hoping some folks will relate. It has been difficult to pinpoint my "spiritual tribe", as it were, but maybe this effort will help me, at least, to sort of codify exactly where I am in relation to it all and hopefully clarify some stuff for others who are confused as well. I figure it's time, it's been a decade since I published a full book last.

[modwiz]

Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

a what-o-logy?

is that when you write sequel after sequel until you reach 10 or 12 books or something???

you frequently leave me feeling so ignorant, Carmody;)

Since a trilogy is three books, my guess is a decalogy is 10. This is different than a defecalogy which is just writing a lot of crap.

[Mike]

Seriously, I'll buy it!

Heheh. You get a special donate email. :thumb:


@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me;) like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

I hear you. A difficult proposition, have you ever published before? Do you have non-fiction or fiction that you've written previously or is this your first work, if I may ask?


i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

The world as it currently stands, some of the issues we are facing as a world, from my unique perspective as a perpetual outsider. I'm hoping some folks will relate. It has been difficult to pinpoint my "spiritual tribe", as it were, but maybe this effort will help me, at least, to sort of codify exactly where I am in relation to it all and hopefully clarify some stuff for others who are confused as well. I figure it's time, it's been a decade since I published a full book last.

i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

it's not too bad, better than most of the defacology i read at bookstores, libraries etc...but still needs work.

p.s. Modwiz, thanks for the lovely addition to my vocabulary - defacology - i'll be using it frequently, with your kind permission, never forgetting to give you the credit, of course;)

[Calz]

After a near non-existent winter ... getting over a foot of snow dumped on us today (here and now).

No work or school today so it's all good :smow:

Here is a shot of me with my boys at my "outdoor power spot" (for you shamanic types) in a nearby nature preserve. Not too much shows in this one but it is a magnificent spot with a large tree surrounded by mid-sized pines. In the summertime it is just like a tent in that you can sit next to the large tree and the rest of the world is nearly invisible even though only about a city block from some housing.

I love it ... can't wait for warmer weather.

Yeah ... that's right ... I am a "tree hugger" :lol:

:hug:

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[modwiz]

Seriously, I'll buy it!

Heheh. You get a special donate email. :thumb:


@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me;) like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

I hear you. A difficult proposition, have you ever published before? Do you have non-fiction or fiction that you've written previously or is this your first work, if I may ask?


i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

The world as it currently stands, some of the issues we are facing as a world, from my unique perspective as a perpetual outsider. I'm hoping some folks will relate. It has been difficult to pinpoint my "spiritual tribe", as it were, but maybe this effort will help me, at least, to sort of codify exactly where I am in relation to it all and hopefully clarify some stuff for others who are confused as well. I figure it's time, it's been a decade since I published a full book last.

i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

it's not too bad, better than most of the defacology i read at bookstores, libraries etc...but still needs work.

p.s. Modwiz, thanks for the lovely addition to my vocabulary - defacology - i'll be using it frequently, with your kind permission, never forgetting to give you the credit, of course;)

You can use the term, just spell it right! It's defecalogy. E, after the F, and A, after the C.

[Mark]

i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

I see. Well your style of writing here in the forum is quite accessible. If you write your prose like this then I'd say your voice was clear, concise and to the point. As they used to drill into us in grad school, you have to publish, Publish, PUBLISH! LOL

Get your stuff out there online, journals, even a blog. Get some "objective" feedback. Writer's groups are good also to get confidence up and also to get some good feedback on your work. I was in one for about 4 years when I was writing my first novel back in the late 90s. Gotta be careful though if you go that route, smaller groups are better than large ones. The big ones have "personalities" who will eat a body alive and spit out the bones after cracking them with their teeth for the marrow.

[Calz]

Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

a what-o-logy?

is that when you write sequel after sequel until you reach 10 or 12 books or something???

you frequently leave me feeling so ignorant, Carmody;)

Since a trilogy is three books, my guess is a decalogy is 10. This is different than a defecalogy which is just writing a lot of crap.


Huh ... I always figured it was a once a decade inspiration to pick back up on a book started in college.

Lasts about one day and then is forgotten about thanks to the flashy thingie.


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[Calz]

happy writing chinaski! i'm about 70 pages into mine and keep getting distracted by new gurus and trips to neptune. i need to focus.
:tea:


Good luck to you too Rahkyt! When complete, please don't forget the donate button ;)


Seriously, I'll buy it!




How much are donate buttons going for these days??? :noidea:

Was thinking about putting one on my profile page to raise a little jing :smokin:


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