Here and Now...What's Happening?

[ulli]

It's funny. For most of my life, including now, I have considered long nails decadent and a reasonable declaration of uselessness, although it is the garish fake ones that I am mainly talking about. I guess it would depend on ones definition of useful.


Here is another view, especially since you will be giving massages for the next six months.
One of the many masseuses I've had in my life..her name was Maureen...and she had this nail fetish big time.
But it worked, because when she massaged my head her long finger nails scratched me on occasion in the most delicious way, and when I was face down on the table her toe nails with their miniature art provided me with visual entertainment.

I highly recommend that you use the same tools for your work this summer. Your clients will appreciate it.

[Ernie Nemeth]

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[ulli]

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Thanks Ernie. If I want to watch this video I have to get on a plane and fly across the border.
Not in my country, is what it says.

[PurpleLama]

Last nights dream was a long journey through several realities and the denizens thereof were friendly and encouraging, everywhere I went a few were cognizent of my destination.

The final scene was an old, odd building containing a strange piece of iron machinery spouting fire from various places, what my waking mind wants to call a forge. A very old, very tough man was operating the machine, and I knew it was soon my time to assist him, so I thought of changing from the white robe and sandals to some heavy, insulated pants and heavy boots so I, too, could walk on the machine and do what he was doing. As I went to leave, I got stuck in the dewberry bushes, brambles, as I had made my way opposite the door in all my observation of the old man and the machine. To get over most of them, I manifested a white board, about 4 by 6 feet, over the top of the brambles, and was navigating over the last bit, only a foot or so thick, and I was getting hung up just a little and the old man came to my assistance. I started to stop him because it really wasn't much sticking into me, but I could see he really wanted to help, so I let him, and while he gingerly removed the vine covered with stickers from one arm, I spied some of the ripened fruit (dewberry is a type of blackberry) and I was glad. I knew, as soon as I returned more appropriately attired that I was going to be munching on some delicious, dark purple fruit.

Now I think I'll check the dewberry growing on the side of my porch, IRL, and pick me a piece or two, here and now.

[PurpleLama]

Of course, checking the dewberry outside, there were two pieces of fruit identical to that in the dream. Tasty! Now to see how fast I can get ready for work.

I'm late, I'm late, for a very important date!

[modwiz]

Getting ready to move into my tent today. Next posts will be from my tent. Hope there is no issue with connectivity.

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Same page? I might settle for the same book!


Are you a lesser person through this compromise? I ask this not as a judgement, rather to gain a deeper understanding.
My relationship foibles are well documented in the various stages of my being, and not...... :ohwell:



If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. --Henry David Thoreau

No, I am not.

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It's funny. For most of my life, including now, I have considered long nails decadent and a reasonable declaration of uselessness, although it is the garish fake ones that I am mainly talking about. I guess it would depend on ones definition of useful.


Here is another view, especially since you will be giving massages for the next six months.
One of the many masseuses I've had in my life..her name was Maureen...and she had this nail fetish big time.
But it worked, because when she massaged my head her long finger nails scratched me on occasion in the most delicious way, and when I was face down on the table her toe nails with their miniature art provided me with visual entertainment.

I highly recommend that you use the same tools for your work this summer. Your clients will appreciate it.

Be careful not to bite that tongue in your cheek.

[Carmody]

Good morning

Watching a movie 700 times? Are there new discoveries each time?



mindstate-entrainment-autohypnotic.

Build your own new mind. DIY, as always. Retrieve the old, combine, refresh, step through a doorway, however one wishes to phrase it.

(only one part of what was going on, multi-tasking, as always) :p

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[another bob]

(only one part of what was going on, multi-tasking, as always)

thought of you when I came across this study:

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/decision-to-entangle-effects-results-of-measurements-taken-beforehand.ars

:yo:

[eaglespirit]

Waiting for catholic mass to start with my cousin Brian(we were a bit mischievous together growing up)...just as the priest begins mass at the altar we stand up and head out the door...the priest yells to us, "Where do you think you are going?"...I reply, "We have business to take care of!"....and say "God Bless You!" to him aloud so the whole church can hear...and out we went while everyone watched in silence.

.......
...ready to help Modwiz move his furnishings into the tent, He should be arriving any time : )
Gonna be Great Connecting Here and Now in the Now Here!!!

[another bob]

Hubble images ... only a drop in the bucket ... so very many more ...

Thanks Calz! For some reason, viewing these cosmic sights, the following music came up for me:

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[Guest]

Bright clear day on the mtn. A soft cool Spring breeze is blowing.
Slept hard last night do not remember any of my dreams.

Taking White Tail to his appt. to have his bandage removed. He's feeling
a lot better -being a rascal.
All goes well this next week he will get to be with
his sister. Have had to keep them separated during his healing process
and she has been a little lonely and wondering what is going on.
They have had a few visits but they just can't play together. Splitting my time up
between the 2 of them....


I really do not like acrylic nails.... and I have small old Irish washer woman hands -false nails look silly.
A lot of my time is spent out in the forest, cutting, splitting, stacking wood and working in the yard; they
would only get in the way.

modwiz no worries, I couldn't even get my head wrapped around a visual....

Have a beautiful day

Love

Nora

[ulli]

But this is not.

One of my absolute favorite people in how he works and what he does.

Christian Kyriacou- Earth Spirit Architect
Equine Space Healer
Speaking with the Soul of a Building
Architectural & Environmental Psychology, Alchemical Design, Harmonics, Bio Geomancy,
Genetic Architecture TM, Sacred Geometry, Sacred Sound, Energy Weaving, Geomancy,
Vastu & Feng Shui Consultations, Metaphysical & Forensic Architecture, Vibrational Healing,
Healing Sick Buildings, Re-Ensouling a building.
And dowser..

Here is one of his talks, the subject matter fits right in to the village.

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Astrid, this guy is great. Thank you for posting his talk.

[ulli]

duplicate is below...struggling here, fixing quotes. Determined not to disturb the mods.

[ulli]

It's funny. For most of my life, including now, I have considered long nails decadent and a reasonable declaration of uselessness, although it is the garish fake ones that I am mainly talking about. I guess it would depend on ones definition of useful.


Here is another view, especially since you will be giving massages for the next six months.
One of the many masseuses I've had in my life..her name was Maureen...and she had this nail fetish big time.
But it worked, because when she massaged my head her long finger nails scratched me on occasion in the most delicious way, and when I was face down on the table her toe nails with their miniature art provided me with visual entertainment.

I highly recommend that you use the same tools for your work this summer. Your clients will appreciate it.

Be careful not to bite that tongue in your cheek.


Quite right, not sure what is sorer, my tongue or my cheek.

Yet, at another level I was quite serious.
Maybe the fashion drama queen in me glimpsed a parallel universe where all massage therapists, male and female,
will be required to dress up for the occasion.

[astrid]

Glad you loved Christian I also have 3 podcasts from
him that are very important listening especially
when it comes to non duality . Some real ahh ha
moments in them . I will link them later, they are on
the BSD site -( British society of dowsers )
I would get this guy to consult on designing a
house for sure his buildings would really
sing

[Ernie Nemeth]

I am no fan of high heels either. Even for going to bed, which is the only logical explanation for them to me. I am obviously not referring to sleep.

No insults meant to any ladies here who do such things. Besides, how can you take someone who says things like this seriously?


People take you seriously??? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs916747.gif

http://www.funny-potato.com/images/clothes/shoes/confortables-shoes.jpg


Oooo! That tickled my foot fetish, big time.

[eaglespirit]

Bye the bye...that catholic 'defiant' prior post of mine was from a dream last nite. Meant to put that in there.
...
Got Modwiz all moved in...going to be a fun summer 'connecting' here and now and Here and Now both physically and by the internet to raise the Spirit to wonderful heights and rhythms in these awesome accelerated changing times : )

[Carmody]

(only one part of what was going on, multi-tasking, as always)

thought of you when I came across this study:

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/04/decision-to-entangle-effects-results-of-measurements-taken-beforehand.ars

:yo:

great study, BTW!

[astrid]

16000

LOve this

[astrid]

I guess i better add a language warning on this one.....

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NO mincing words here but totally on the money

No other way but to deal with your CRAP !!

[Heather2017]

Much love, dear Villagers. Also, much respect for those who can integrate male and female energies within themselves. Plus David Bowie is awesome. :cool:

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[Heather2017]

I admit I love the funky 70s natural funk. :biggrin:

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Had to laugh at the comment about Mungo Jerry being Wolverine when he was young and calm.

[Heather2017]

My first electronica love:

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C'mon, you know you like it.

[modwiz]

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It's funny. For most of my life, including now, I have considered long nails decadent and a reasonable declaration of uselessness, although it is the garish fake ones that I am mainly talking about. I guess it would depend on ones definition of useful.


Here is another view, especially since you will be giving massages for the next six months.
One of the many masseuses I've had in my life..her name was Maureen...and she had this nail fetish big time.
But it worked, because when she massaged my head her long finger nails scratched me on occasion in the most delicious way, and when I was face down on the table her toe nails with their miniature art provided me with visual entertainment.

I highly recommend that you use the same tools for your work this summer. Your clients will appreciate it.

Be careful not to bite that tongue in your cheek.


Quite right, not sure what is sorer, my tongue or my cheek.

Yet, at another level I was quite serious.
Maybe the fashion drama queen in me glimpsed a parallel universe where all massage therapists, male and female,
will be required to dress up for the occasion.

Well, here and now I am in my tent with my nice and speedy wi-fi connection. Dress up for the occasion? I believe anyone who actually works for a living should always where labor appropriate garb. When I was moving in I dressed like in very pedestrian working clothes. Now, I can move back to my tunics and capes.

For my sake, your parallel universe feels nice and safe for me, since parallel lines never meet.

[cloudno7]

I eat a potato it goes to my brain, now who is thinking potato or me? I breathe air and it goes in and to various parts and “I” am working/Living. What happens if I stop eating/breathing/etc.? I won’t survive?

Sperm & egg combines, the first cell say Stem cell. Then mother starts eating various things and the atoms start cling on to the first cell and the cell gets bigger and bigger. Now it becomes “Me/I”, now who am I? The things mother ate? Or Me! Who am i???????????????

Just because atoms are so small doesn’t mean they are insignificant. Some one tell where does soul comes into all this :(

[ViralSpiral]

Here and now, sitting at one of my favourite spots: The Bryanston Organic market.

Latte and quiche. Whoop!!!!!

Glad you're settled Mod. Chortled at your response. My question was more....... If not on same page, same book - is it not a useless appendage? :p

I also laughed at Ullis comment. How we all play our roles perfectly ;)

All is as it should be.

Love y'all

[Guest]

I eat a potato it goes to my brain, now who is thinking potato or me? I breathe air and it goes in and to various parts and “I” am working/Living. What happens if I stop eating/breathing/etc.? I won’t survive?

Sperm & egg combines, the first cell say Stem cell. Then mother starts eating various things and the atoms start cling on to the first cell and the cell gets bigger and bigger. Now it becomes “Me/I”, now who am I? The things mother ate? Or Me! Who am i???????????????

Just because atoms are so small doesn’t mean they are insignificant. Some one tell where does soul comes into all this :(

When you take your first breath.

Love

Nora

[Carmody]

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[ulli]

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My first electronica love:

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C'mon, you know you like it.

I like all the songs you share, Heather. All of them also come with powerful memories attached.
Those were heady years for me.
I worked hard and I played hard. Now I work softly and I play softly.
I have become a softie.

[Lisab]

Excellent videos Astrid. Really helpful thanks.

Last night I dreamt of a pond, frogspawn and frogs. My little boy and I were sitting next to the pond, cuddling in the sunshine, watching the frogs, some of which were clamouring up a tree and back down again and into the pond. Round and round they went, while we watched laughing and relaxing. A man was watching us and smiling. I just looked up dream meaning and got this..
This reveals to you the deeply unconscious psychobiological life processes, which transformed you from a tadpole/sperm, into an air breathing frog/adult - therefore the process of life in general and its wisdom. The enormous information such symbols hold if you explore them gives them their power. They lead you to a meeting with what you find difficult or repulsive in life and yourself, which if you can accept transforms into personal potential and power - the frog into the prince story.
It is often a form of love that transforms the dark sides of yourself, the toad or beast, into something which is life enhancing. The frog may also depict a sub-personality, an aspect of your character that is usually unconscious, but occasionally shows itself in behaviour.

The frog has also been associated with the power of resurrection and renewal.

As writing this I also remembered the part of my dream where the man was smiling. He was actually looking on sort of longingly and saying to himself I wish i'd had that with my mother as a child.

Ive also had major breakthroughs' with my little ones dad recently (my biggest trigger and mirror!), regarding money. I shall reveal more later! Feng Shuing my Self and house today!!!

[Calz]

I guess i better add a language warning on this one.....

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NO mincing words here but totally on the money

No other way but to deal with your CRAP !!


Hey astrid ... rock on (as usual). :neo:

I took the liberty of posting this vid at the Pub as it seemed like good discussion material.

Hope you don't mind :thank_you2:

[eaglespirit]

Oooooooo Myyyyyy....
Astrid's 'shadow' ---deal with your sh----t video brought back re-living memories of my night at 'lightning rock' in CT near the Nipmuc Reservation in 1/'07...film of re-cap at 11, hehe.
Thank You.... as he smiles at his shadow.
Get in there and let it ALLLLLL out : ) : ) : )

[Calz]

This guy is good ... never heard of him before astrid posted that vid.

Good stuff http://www.pic4ever.com/images/meditationf.gif


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[ulli]

Astrid, I must confess I found the shadow video a bit irritating.
Not because of his language, but because of the preachy and forceful tone.
It would hinder anyone's awakening, is what I fear.
Been doing integration work for years and years, from Gestalt therapy,
to astrological shadow work, to taking full responsibility that whatever life hands
me comes from my own subconscious.
Maybe I'm not yet humble enough to accept truth from people who present
it as if they had invented it themselves.

[Lisab]

Yeah me too. I like him. Wouldnt mind looking into more of his stuff.

[Calz]

Astrid, I must confess I found the shadow video a bit irritating.
Not because of his language, but because of the preachy and forceful tone.
It would hinder anyone's awakening, is what I fear.
Been doing integration work for years and years, from Gestalt therapy,
to astrological shadow work, to taking full responsibility that whatever life hands
me comes from my own subconscious.
Maybe I'm not yet humble enough to accept truth from people who present
it as if they had invented it themselves.

Thanks for your input ulli :thank_you2:

If you have the time (and interest) check out the other one from the same source immediately before your post as that would seem to speak to what you mention to a degree. How to not interfere and let others play their "games".

Interesting speaker (imho).

Cal

[Lisab]

Ooops posted the same time as Ulli. His other vids dont seem preachy. I think he was just trying to get his point across a bit hardcore style maybe, in the first one.

[ulli]

Astrid, I must confess I found the shadow video a bit irritating.
Not because of his language, but because of the preachy and forceful tone.
It would hinder anyone's awakening, is what I fear.
Been doing integration work for years and years, from Gestalt therapy,
to astrological shadow work, to taking full responsibility that whatever life hands
me comes from my own subconscious.
Maybe I'm not yet humble enough to accept truth from people who present
it as if they had invented it themselves.

Thanks for your input ulli :thank_you2:

If you have the time (and interest) check out the other one from the same source immediately before your post as that would seem to speak to what you mention to a degree. How to not interfere and let others play their "games".

Interesting speaker (imho).

Cal

That's ok, Calz. Talking of interest, and interesting, I'm always on the look-out for new discoveries, or at least fresh presentation of the old eternal truths.
I was only sharing what my personal reaction to his video was, and am currently engaged in facing my competetive shadow, who is saying ' I have said it better myself, many times, just didn't bother to make a video at the time, prefering to work behind the scenes.

[ulli]

Ok, here is more from my shadow. It LOVES the big ego trip.
It loves standing in front of 200 drooling women with a microphone in my hand; women who are spell-bound by by my voice and wisdom and stage presence...it loves TV studios and the bright lights and being invited to talk shows. Giving interviews.
Tell me., how is the best way to deal with such a shadow, knowing full well where such a path will lead.

[another bob]

Ok, here is more from my shadow. It LOVES the big ego trip.
It loves standing in front of 200 drooling women with a microphone in my hand; women who are spell-bound by by my voice and wisdom and stage presence...it loves TV studios and the bright lights and being invited to talk shows. Giving interviews.
Tell me., how is the best way to deal with such a shadow, knowing full well where such a path will lead.


Hiya Ulli!

If I may, there is nothing wrong with enjoying your life, and the emotions that arise in the midst of your experiences. However, granting the so-called "shadow" some kind of "entity" status does create a problem. The ego is an activity, not an entity. As soon as we take it to be who we are, we have created an internal conflict, an inner division. There is us, and then there's this shadowy ego character that requires being dealt with through various strategies and schemes.

What we're really talking about here is emotions, such as a certain joy arising from performing before others. Emotions are simply downloaded programs that enable us to more fully enjoy this juicy human experience. There is nothing wrong with them, and they certainly do not need to be a source of internal conflict. The only problem (entanglement) comes when we cling to some and avoid others, thus creating a sense of a separate and enduring self, a "me", a fragile critter attempting to survive in a world of other toothy selves.

This imaginary creation invariably turns out to be a major source of suffering, which is why some folks are (mistakenly) down on emotions. However, emotions themselves were never the problem, just the fixation of identity in any of them, to the point of construing some sort of fictional and independent self-image.

On the other hand, when they arise as they will, we do not need to grant them any enduring reality, but just recognize them for what they are -- temporary modifications of consciousness, with no inherent substantiality. They are not us, they are not who we are, and they do not constitute evidence for any actual self.

The same goes for thought, perception, sensation, and even consciousness. See through them, watch them rise and dissolve, revealing themselves for what they are. Let them be just that, without trying to add or substract anything from them. Any experience that comes to us is a gift, but not to hoard, not to serve as a basis for fantasy conclusions -- just to experience. Period.

Having recognized the ephemeral nature of all experience -- whether it be in the form of emotion, thought, perception, sensation, or consciousness -- we can relax. When we relax, we are freed of all associated binding yadda, such as fear, stress, annoyance, and moodiness. Having been thus liberated from said binding yadda, we can say, "Released!", and move on to the next scene in the movie.



Self-arising wisdom is the base.
The five negative emotions are manifested energy.
Seeing emotions as mistaken is an error.
Letting them be in their nature is the method
To find the non-dual state of Liberation.
Overcoming hope and fear is the result.

From Wonders of the Natural Mind by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche

[ulli]

Ok, here is more from my shadow. It LOVES the big ego trip.
It loves standing in front of 200 drooling women with a microphone in my hand; women who are spell-bound by by my voice and wisdom and stage presence...it loves TV studios and the bright lights and being invited to talk shows. Giving interviews.
Tell me., how is the best way to deal with such a shadow, knowing full well where such a path will lead.


Hiya Ulli!

If I may, there is nothing wrong with enjoying your life, and the emotions that arise in the midst of your experiences. However, granting the so-called "shadow" some kind of "entity" status does create a problem. The ego is an activity, not an entity. As soon as we take it to be who we are, we have created an internal conflict, an inner division. There is us, and then there's this shadowy ego character that requires being dealt with through various strategies and schemes.

What we're really talking about here is emotions, such as a certain joy arising from performing before others. Emotions are simply downloaded programs that enable us to more fully enjoy this juicy human experience. There is nothing wrong with them, and they certainly do not need to be a source of internal conflict. The only problem (entanglement) comes when we cling to some and avoid others, thus creating a sense of a separate and enduring self, a "me", a fragile critter attempting to survive in a world of other toothy selves.

This imaginary creation invariably turns out to be a major source of suffering, which is why some folks are (mistakenly) down on emotions. However, emotions themselves were never the problem, just the fixation of identity in any of them, to the point of construing some sort of fictional and independent self-image.

On the other hand, when they arise as they will, we do not need to grant them any enduring reality, but just recognize them for what they are -- temporary modifications of consciousness, with no inherent substantiality. They are not us, they are not who we are, and they do not constitute evidence for any actual self.

The same goes for thought, perception, sensation, and even consciousness. See through them, watch them rise and dissolve, revealing themselves for what they are. Let them be just that, without trying to add or substract anything from them. Any experience that comes to us is a gift, but not to hoard, not to serve as a basis for fantasy conclusions -- just to experience. Period.

Having recognized the ephemeral nature of all experience -- whether it be in the form of emotion, thought, perception, sensation, or consciousness -- we can relax. When we relax, we are freed of all associated binding yadda, such as fear, stress, annoyance, and moodiness. Having been thus liberated from said binding yadda, we can say, "Released!", and move on to the next scene in the movie.



Self-arising wisdom is the base.
The five negative emotions are manifested energy.
Seeing emotions as mistaken is an error.
Letting them be in their nature is the method
To find the non-dual state of Liberation.
Overcoming hope and fear is the result.

From Wonders of the Natural Mind by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche

Thanks for your response, oh youthful yet another bob. Love the picture, by the way.
From what you were telling me all these bobs are one, or none?

Yes, there is fear in me. This fear is not of an entity as such, but of suffering a host of confused and chaotic swirling emotions, like waters leading to a whirlpool. They hinder my normal functioning. I learnt such lessons years ago when people's demands of my continued performance became annoying.
To be a functioning human I need to be on good terms with my environment, as well as my community. So I like to set limits, knowing the limits of my emotiomal capacity.

Prominence status divides me from my audience, creates an unequal positioning of neediness, their need is to be fed information, entertainment, predigested thoughts, mine as being the feeder is the need of vanity, to receive adoration energies in return....like wow, they are loving me, wow, I am really expressing myself here.....do I want that?

What I want is to be an equal member of a group of empowered beings such as we have here at this thread.
No other heroes but ourselves.

[another bob]

Thanks for your response, oh youthful yet another bob. Love the picture, by the way.
From what you were telling me all these bobs are one, or none?

They are drops in a waterfall.



Yes, there is fear in me. This fear is not of an entity as such, but of suffering a host of confused and chaotic swirling emotions, like waters leading to a whirlpool. They hinder my normal functioning.

Yes, this is what I was getting at, when I spoke about being in conflict with ourselves, because we like some parts of the dream but not other parts. On the other hand, we could just accept it all, love it all, even the confusion and frustration, and so regain our inherent wholeness, our natural innocence.



To be a functioning human I need to be on good terms with my environment, as well as my community. So I like to set limits, knowing the limits of my emotiomal capacity.

What would happen if you let go of all your prerequisites to be happy and confortable? What would it be like to plunge into the Unknown without some set of pre-conceived parameters? Scary at first, eh, but in persistence, there is a vast freedom awaiting.



Prominence status divides me from my audience, creates an unequal positioning of neediness, their need is to be fed information, entertainment, predigested thoughts, mine as being the feeder is the need of vanity, to receive adoration energies in return....like wow, they are loving me, wow, I am really expressing myself here.....do I want that?

Can you see how this idea of prominence is your own creation, to which you have granted a certain reality? What would happen if you simply withdrew the substance of that projection, and instead just performed your show without adding any ideas like "prominence" to it?



What I want is to be an equal member of a group of empowered beings such as we have here at this thread.
No other heroes but ourselves.

What would it be like if, instead of seeing some imbalance in the relationship at your performances, you just allowed in your intention an equal status to be the pre-existing case already?

:yo:

[ulli]

Thanks for your response, oh youthful yet another bob. Love the picture, by the way.
From what you were telling me all these bobs are one, or none?

They are drops in a waterfall.



Yes, there is fear in me. This fear is not of an entity as such, but of suffering a host of confused and chaotic swirling emotions, like waters leading to a whirlpool. They hinder my normal functioning.

Yes, this is what I was getting at, when I spoke about being in conflict with ourselves, because we like some parts of the dream but not other parts. On the other hand, we could just accept it all, love it all, even the confusion and frustration, and so regain our inherent wholeness, our natural innocence.



To be a functioning human I need to be on good terms with my environment, as well as my community. So I like to set limits, knowing the limits of my emotiomal capacity.

What would happen if you let go of all your prerequisites to be happy and confortable? What would it be like to plunge into the Unknown without some set of pre-conceived parameters? Scary at first, eh, but in persistence, there is a vast freedom awaiting.



Prominence status divides me from my audience, creates an unequal positioning of neediness, their need is to be fed information, entertainment, predigested thoughts, mine as being the feeder is the need of vanity, to receive adoration energies in return....like wow, they are loving me, wow, I am really expressing myself here.....do I want that?

Can you see how this idea of prominence is your own creation, to which you have granted a certain reality? What would happen if you simply withdrew the substance of that projection, and instead just performed your show without adding any ideas like "prominence" to it?



What I want is to be an equal member of a group of empowered beings such as we have here at this thread.
No other heroes but ourselves.

What would it be like if, instead of seeing some imbalance in the relationship at your performances, you just allowed in your intention an equal status to be the pre-existing case already?

:yo:


Good challenging stuff there, Bob.
Been experimenting with all those issues for years, and still take plunges into unknown
areas on a regualr basis, living a dual life with a home in two countries.
The choice is made now. Family come first.
Money second.
Fame and recognition last. I know, I know- these are mere concepts.
But we ARE on a discussion forum and can't do away with concepts when expressing ourselves here.
What goes on in private contemplationi is another matter and can't be transmitted in exact replicas.

Back to where this conversation began, namely my emo reaction to someone stating in a preachy tone what to me and many others is already obvious...
He might succeed with his agenda. I wish him luck.
The collective will awaken, one individual at a time. Some will respond to his style, no doubt about it. If his motive is guru vanity I'll have no part. Nor can anyone make me go there.

[another bob]

Back to where this conversation began, namely my emo reaction to someone stating in a preachy tone what to me and many others is already obvious...
He might succeed with his agenda. I wish him luck.
The collective will awaken, one individual at a time. Some will respond to his style, no doubt about it. If his motive is guru vanity I'll have no part. Nor can anyone make me go there.

I hear ya, Sister!

Back around 2003, I wanted to introduce my Beloved to some of the Advaita-flavored nondual teachings that had once inspired me, and so I would take her to Berkeley on Sundays to see a popular teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area, named Adyashanti, with whom I'd felt some resonance. He is popular because he's a good talker, and speaks from a wise place. Now he has a bunch of U-tubes you can watch.

At any rate, after a few such lectures, we were sitting there one Sunday, and in the middle of the lecture, we both suddenly turned to each other and burst out laughing, having come to the simultaneous recognition that we didn't need to be sitting there listening to someone tell us what we've already known, and so we got up and walked out, found a nearby cafe where we enjoyed a good breakfast, laughing the whole time.

Never been to a preacher since that day.

:yo:

[another bob]

K1p8XOli9rQ

I appreciate your taste in music choices, having enjoyed many of the tunes you've introduced. Thanks!

[ulli]

Back to where this conversation began, namely my emo reaction to someone stating in a preachy tone what to me and many others is already obvious...
He might succeed with his agenda. I wish him luck.
The collective will awaken, one individual at a time. Some will respond to his style, no doubt about it. If his motive is guru vanity I'll have no part. Nor can anyone make me go there.

I hear ya, Sister!

Back around 2003, I wanted to introduce my Beloved to some of the Advaita-flavored nondual teachings that had once inspired me, and so I would take her to Berkeley on Sundays to see a popular teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area, named Adyashanti, with whom I'd felt some resonance. He is popular because he's a good talker, and speaks from a wise place. Now he has a bunch of U-tubes you can watch.

At any rate, after a few such lectures, we were sitting there one Sunday, and in the middle of the lecture, we both suddenly turned to each other and burst out laughing, having come to the simultaneous recognition that we didn't need to be sitting there listening to someone tell us what we've already known, and so we got up and walked out, found a nearby cafe where we enjoyed a good breakfast, laughing the whole time.

Never been to a preacher since that day.

:yo:


Exactly my point. And good for you!

[eaglespirit]

Don't Worry Be Happy...in the middle of the stream, lovin' it all : )

[PurpleLama]

Sometimes the universe is preachy and forceful in it's tone. It's the strength that arises from shadow work, which indeed is integration of "other" aspects of psyche, which leads to the acceptance of the value of the contents without judgement of the container. I spoke to this in the pub, but that post was more "out there" than usual. The ego says I might delete it. The real self says Harumph, maybe not. Naught but shadow lies in between, for what is it reall but the part of self that remains unseen. We are, and we are a lot of things.

[Debra]

Awesome discussion on here folks .. thank you xxx

[Debra]

Hi, may I have a few more words to share with you village folk here ?

I am struck by Ulli´s understanding of her emotions or shadows compared with Bob´s understanding - well my interpretation - that they are not to be treated as separate entities but as programs we download to experience the human journey.

Two things come up for me. Firstly, Ulli talks about her performative self and playing out the *neediness to be acknowledged* and that this is something that continues to replay - I hope I am on the right path here Ulli in my interpretation.

Anyway, the thought comes to me - especially as Ulli talks about her life *in the performance field* - that we have come to accept that playing out life on a *stage* engages in the elements of drama. Where emotions are brought into the light and others are hidden - however, in their hiding, they are felt as well.

One of the key elements of drama is tension, and perhaps this is why we experience inner conflict and can feel like we are fragmenting into a thousand pieces, at times. Tension between people, and also between conflicting emotions within ourselves.

In real life as well, we are attracted to these fields of emotions - or shadows - and somehow they give us a pay off in some ways, and that is making meaning of our human condition, and possibly reaching for a sense of who we are.

As we perform ourselves into existence, so do we engage in the drama, and somehow this also feeds an addiction to emotional programs - I would add - to those that brings us pain as much as joy and the spectrum of emotions in between.

I am no psychologist, but I have a background in the performing arts, which of course has interfaced hugely with the social sciences - but also crosses into the metaphysical sciences as well as a way to connect with truth and ideally, what we refer to as a being state

So, in letting go of the emotional programs - at some nexus of understanding - which Bob implies in his explanation, we can get there. But sustaining that, ah, that is the question.

I have always valued drama but I am kind of now a little suspicious, because it is also a tool that we have come to use and admire - but it also keeps us on the merry go round. Consciously or not, I play right into drama in real life as much as I do on a stage.

Why? it´s because I am addicted to my emotional programming, I think.

Yes, I love my emotions, I once said to a woman who told me she was autistic - who informed me that she did not experience emotions the way I did. She said that she felt sorry for me.

Wow, I will never forget that. I am a few years down the track from that conversation .. and a few healing programs behind me as well. Still on the path, I hope, but I am more conscious and somewhat a little more relaxed with myself and those pesky programs that come up to bite me on the bottom :)

Rising above the emotional charge - when it is too much - is a practice. And I toil on - one step forwards and two steps backwards. And so it goes ..

UtgXus3eiII

[another bob]

Hi, may I have a few more words to share with you village folk here ?

An excellent inquiry, Dear Z!

I really appreciate this kind of exploration, and know that it will serve you as it proceeds, besides offering contemplative nourishment for us all here.

One note, about the autistic friend who claims she felt sorry for you because of your emotional life: on what basis is she able to make the contrasting judgment, if she was without the feeling capacity herself to make such a comparison?

And yes, it is a challenge to always be free of clinging, but eventually, with sincere effort, a naturally spontaneous rhythm develops, whereby we can appreciate the experience of emotion, without feeling the need to hold on or avoid, and so permit them to be just what they are, no more and no less.

:yo:

[astrid]

Yes I suspected that video might be a tad polarizing also why I loved it .
I knew it would get a shadow talk discussion going .
Any shadow in the open is a shadow able to be examined, even the topic
itself is hard to get people to look at .
I remember the first time I ever heard the term i didn't get it , I was all like
" Me have a shadow ?? Noooooooo " Rofl !!!!
Even being all love and light can be your shadow . One of my big ones ,
coming from all that Christian programming was to ignore my own needs
and be addicted to helping others at the expense of ever expressing my own .
It sounds very STO doesn't It ?? But it's actually not because of my underlying
intent- which was to HIDE from myself.
A total hatred of myself and absolute fear of being honest and facing all my
deep wounds was part of my shadow. So I just threw myself into fixing
everyone else .
Now that is a sneaky shadow and it took some digging out .
I finally knew I had dealt with it for the most part when i became
detached to the outcomes of ppl getting "better" .
When you are detached they are more likely to grow, when you
are attached you are also entangled up in their lives as their "stuff"
has a function for you.
It's a hard hitting lesson when you realize that you are enabling because
you are getting a " fix"yourself from their drama. As your own life unpacked
is nothing but a black hole of emptiness , ouch .

I knew the hard hitting style of that clip would piss some people off, but
again that's how it works in the universe. When you are continuing to
resist dealing with the same issue ultimately the messages and the way
"upstairs" tries to get through becomes like being smacked in the head
with a wet fish .
Sometimes turning up the "volume" is the only way people listen .

For me it the lesson in the end came down to choosing between men that
wanted to kill me or facing my sh!t, my life, and actually even realizing
that i had a life. That was how hard it was to get through the " be nice "
programming. I when i finally got it, as in I heard the message,
the whole game stopped and in Truman Show style and I saw behind the
curtain . I could even hear all my higher helpers clapping and cheering, lol .

For me that was the point my life here began, up to
that point I was just living everyone else's .

[ulli]

Hi, may I have a few more words to share with you village folk here ?

I am struck by Ulli´s understanding of her emotions or shadows compared with Bob´s understanding - well my interpretation - that they are not to be treated as separate entities but as programs we download to experience the human journey.

Two things come up for me. Firstly, Ulli talks about her performative self and playing out the *neediness to be acknowledged* and that this is something that continues to replay - I hope I am on the right path here Ulli in my interpretation.

Anyway, the thought comes to me - especially as Ulli talks about her life *in the performance field* - that we have come to accept that playing out life on a *stage* engages in the elements of drama. Where emotions are brought into the light and others are hidden - however, in their hiding, they are felt as well.

One of the key elements of drama is tension, and perhaps this is why we experience inner conflict and can feel like we are fragmenting into a thousand pieces, at times. Tension between people, and also between conflicting emotions within ourselves.

In real life as well, we are attracted to these fields of emotions - or shadows - and somehow they give us a pay off in some ways, and that is making meaning of our human condition, and possibly reaching for a sense of who we are.

As we perform ourselves into existence, so do we engage in the drama, and somehow this also feeds an addiction to emotional programs - I would add - to those that brings us pain as much as joy and the spectrum of emotions in between.

I am no psychologist, but I have a background in the performing arts, which of course has interfaced hugely with the social sciences - but also crosses into the metaphysical sciences as well as a way to connect with truth and ideally, what we refer to as a being state

So, in letting go of the emotional programs - at some nexus of understanding - which Bob implies in his explanation, we can get there. But sustaining that, ah, that is the question.

I have always valued drama but I am kind of now a little suspicious, because it is also a tool that we have come to use and admire - but it also keeps us on the merry go round. Consciously or not, I play right into drama in real life as much as I do on a stage.

Why? it´s because I am addicted to my emotional programming, I think.

Yes, I love my emotions, I once said to a woman who told me she was autistic - who informed me that she did not experience emotions the way I did. She said that she felt sorry for me.

Wow, I will never forget that. I am a few years down the track from that conversation .. and a few healing programs behind me as well. Still on the path, I hope, but I am more conscious and somewhat a little more relaxed with myself and those pesky programs that come up to bite me on the bottom :)

Rising above the emotional charge - when it is too much - is a practice. And I toil on - one step forwards and two steps backwards. And so it goes ..

UtgXus3eiII

Thanks for sharing. You understand me, and I'm glad. Yet there is more to it, as far as I'm concerned.
I operate by the principle 'as above, so below', and vice versa. In other words, the more conflict can be resolved at the individual level the more it can be resolved at the collective level. In order to restore inner balance and harmony I only have to give up some of my emotional addictions.
Yes, drama can definitely be an addiction. It's better to feel important than empty, and the applause from an audience gives a momentary sense of being real.
But there is also the simpler need to teach and instruct others, as a group, not for drama purpose but to maintain a sense of self based on knowingness, which can also be a sign of a narcissistic motive.

Only when all ambitions to create a sense of self have been relinquished can one get on with living in a pure and simple and honest manner. Then moments of being a teacher and being a pupil follow one another in rapid sequence and everyone gets a chance to have a shot at both.
Stage and auditorium are artificial constructs, symbols of a divided environment.

I prefer a circle of armchairs around a campfire- well, a few love seats and even sofas are also allowed.
That's what has always worked best for the various Ullis, giving all fragments an equal chance, including the shadowy ones.
Now handing the talking pole to whoever wants it next.

[ulli]

Hi, may I have a few more words to share with you village folk here ?

An excellent inquiry, Dear Z!

I really appreciate this kind of exploration, and know that it will serve you as it proceeds, besides offering contemplative nourishment for us all here.

One note, about the autistic friend who claims she felt sorry for you because of your emotional life: on what basis is she able to make the contrasting judgment, if she was without the feeling capacity herself to make such a comparison?

And yes, it is a challenge to always be free of clinging, but eventually, with sincere effort, a naturally spontaneous rhythm develops, whereby we can appreciate the experience of emotion, without feeling the need to hold on or avoid, and so permit them to be just what they are, no more and no less.

:yo:

This needed to be placed on a stage:
eventually, with sincere effort, a naturally spontaneous rhythm develops, whereby we can appreciate the experience of emotion, without feeling the need to hold on or avoid, and so permit them to be just what they are, no more and no less.

[ulli]

I knew the hard hitting style of that clip would piss some
people off, but again thats how it works in te universe
When you are continuing to resist dealing with the same
issue ultimately the messages and the way upstairs
tries to get through becomes like being smacked with
a wet fish . Sometimes turning up the volume is the
only way people listen .
For me it was a case of choosing between men that
wanted to kill me or facing my sh!t. That was how hard
it was to get through the " be nice " programming.
I when i finally got it, as in I heard the message,
the whole game stopped and in Truman show style
I saw behind the curtain . I could even hear all my
higher helpers clapping and cheering, lol .

For me that was the point my life here began, up to
that point I was just living everyone else's .


Glad you are up and joining in the discussion. Great post, by the way.
But I must ask you to read my post again...
since I was the only person who had objections it was me who was creating polarity here, but for a different reason than the one you stated.

His hard-hitting style was not my issue with him,
but his presentation as if he had invented the concept. Not even Liz Greene whose book about the shadow side of each astrological sign which she wrote in the seventies omitted giving Carl Gustav Jung some credit.
Foul language has really never been an issue for me, I know when it is appropriate and when not.
I just wanted to clarify that. My issue with his style was his self-appointed guru odour.

Which I then duely addressed as coming from my own shadow.

Had it been his hard hitting style, I would have presented everyone here with an example of my own hard-hitting
inner preacher which used to be of the fire and brimstone kind, me being Capricorn with Leo rising and Pluto on the Ascendant, if you know what I mean....

[Debra]

One note, about the autistic friend who claims she felt sorry for you because of your emotional life: on what basis is she able to make the contrasting judgment, if she was without the feeling capacity herself to make such a comparison?
:yo:

I know this sounds crazy Bob but she brought me to a moment of looking at my own minefield - which I was deep in at the time. And here I saw this human that was so - together! At least, she appeared that way, and was in the running at that time for 'a business woman of the year' award.

I was envious :) No, really, she gave me pause for me to consider that taking the emotional autobahn so often was perhaps not doing me too many favours.

But I agree with you here .. this is a great way of putting it:
..it is a challenge to always be free of clinging, but eventually, with sincere effort, a naturally spontaneous rhythm develops, whereby we can appreciate the experience of emotion, without feeling the need to hold on or avoid, and so permit them to be just what they are, no more and no less.

Thanks Bob
:thank_you2:

[Guest]

Going through some of my own layers (in the awake state & dream state) here and now ewee...and sometimes painful.
and one of my programs -where it originated from I'm not exactly sure- I have discovered a long the way is not to feel my own feelings or go into them and let them go. I really worked hard at a putting a face on everything... I didn't even know I was doing it. My ego was in control and I was shutting myself off from the SunLight of Spirit, my own Spirit and everybody else's Spirit.
Finding out that control is an illusion was/is a big one for me too.



Once in a while I read Rahkyt's blogs he has some inspiring and insightful things to say.



http://rahkyt.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/interbeing-alex-grey.jpg?w=194&h=192
Those recognized moments of Oneness still happen – more and more these days – and the thought of those moments, events, snapshots of Life that led directly to this instant juxapose in meaning, providing an underlying and resonant vibration of Purpose to the clarity of the Now. They are accessible if I need them, but I rarely do anymore. The aftermath of kenshō (http://rahkyt.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/practical-enlightenment-the-aftermath-of-kensho/) is qualitatively different from what comes before and the acceptance and re-training of ego is a gradual process within which many pitfalls lurk. Direct experience assures progress as certain knowledge dispels ignorance and continued inner-work clarifies discernment and logos resonation within both the physical and ethereal realms.
My life experience is a composite of all of our experiences. There is nothing I have been through that you cannot go through and there is much I have been through that you have also. We are One within this bio-energetic reality (http://rahkyt.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/the-bio-energetic-reality-what-you-need-to-know/) and that means our experience in this lifetime along with all others binds us experientially as spiritual and material family. The family of humanity and the greater family of pure consciousness.
Pain and heartache are certain, while desire remains. Laughter and peace are as well. But between all lies the middle path of acceptance, of openness, of being intensely aware of what, where and who we are, and accepting all that comes to us with a giving and loving heart that knows no boundaries of possibility, seeking resonance and reflection in each other and the world and cosmos that hold us each close, whispering sweet lullabys of yearning and transcendence, soothing our souls as we rush headlong into the Abyss.
http://rahkyt.wordpress.com/

Love

Nora

[another bob]

But between all lies the middle path of acceptance, of openness, of being intensely aware of what, where and who we are, and accepting all that comes to us with a giving and loving heart that knows no boundaries of possibility, seeking resonance and reflection in each other and the world and cosmos that hold us each close, whispering sweet lullabys of yearning and transcendence, soothing our souls as we rush headlong into the Abyss.
http://rahkyt.wordpress.com/



QtzLKmMHrkg

[Debra]

..
I operate by the principle 'as above, so below', and vice versa. In other words, the more conflict can be resolved at the individual level the more it can be resolved at the collective level. In order to restore inner balance and harmony I only have to give up some of my emotional addictions.
Yes, drama can definitely be an addiction. It's better to feel important than empty, and the applause from an audience gives a momentary sense of being real.
But there is also the simpler need to teach and instruct others, as a group, not for drama purpose but to maintain a sense of self based on knowingness, which can also be a sign of a narcissistic motive.


Nice Ulli, I agree .. working on yourself is still the necessary nut to crack - then it is hopefully the 100 monkeys effect - to help bring into manifestation a more harmonious society.

Thanks, Z

[ulli]

Forums are just great for shadow work, especially for people who live alone and don't get regular ego knocks from others
like family members who they share their intimate space with.

In a forum setting the troll character provides great shadow work opportunities as do the moderators, depending where one's main issues lie.
Hey, why not go all the way, and identify the collective shadow...
Drug companies and government cover-ups. Even alien races.

http://mimiandeunice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ME_314_AllergicReaction2.png

[Debra]

..
But there is also the simpler need to teach and instruct others, as a group, not for drama purpose but to maintain a sense of self based on knowingness, which can also be a sign of a narcissistic motive.


POST UPDATE

Ulli,
I wanted to add, that it can also be a challenge to facilitate this kind of growth in others, using drama as a reflective process and tool for change. To manage your own emotions in this engagement - how to stay removed - and be in service of the other. Or in some way, are we still enabling an arrangement by which way we can continue connecting with a drama - albeit in a supposedly objective way?

Just a thought ..

[ulli]

..
But there is also the simpler need to teach and instruct others, as a group, not for drama purpose but to maintain a sense of self based on knowingness, which can also be a sign of a narcissistic motive.


POST UPDATE

Ulli,
I wanted to add, that it can also be a challenge to facilitate this kind of growth in others, using drama as a reflective process and tool for change. To manage your own emotions in this engagement - how to stay removed - and be in service of the other. Or in some way, are we still enabling an arrangement by which way we can continue connecting with a drama - albeit in a supposedly objective way?

Just a thought ..

Anything can be useful, especially drama, as it is most effective. Drama is perfect.
The younger the audience the more success is guaranteed as they will have those programs running all their lives.

What must be remembered, however,
is that one is an active myth maker.
All of our teachings and philosophies are myth based.
May the best mythology win.
We are all going to live witin our deeds.
Whatever is thrown out there will grow.
If a teacher's consciousness and motive is not pure then
his audience will never beome empowered to the degree
where they can function on their own,
but will be fowever trapped in student mode, and will be
forever searching for inspiration from outside themselves.

I love the fact that there are so many competing mythologies out there
as they can keep a truth seeker looking long enough until the big realization dawns,
namely that of one's own gifts being the true source of real guidance.

[astrid]

Yes Ulli, i did understand what you were talking about there,
and i noticed the tone also, but i thought the message was
more than worthy of a post regardless. I'm also probably
immune to preachy tones, I'm the preacher's daughter
don't forget, i just turn off that part, lol .

This is such a timely subject for me, as right now I'm wading in
the shadow swamp myself, and this time around its been a
fascinating trip. Because I'm working via the Shamanic playpen
it's being expressed to me in the most rich and colorful metaphoric
language. Whereas before i was just dealing with the emotions.

So its pretty freaking cool. Yesterday for example, when i was wading in the
swamp in a journey, i found an old rusted bicycle, one i had when i was a kid.
Now this is interesting, for me it "read" as being a time when i "lost my wheels",
and its even more interesting as i bought a brand new bike a few years ago and i have
rode it like once or twice, it's sitting out rusting under a tarp outside, which is a real shame.
So here is a case where its a metaphor that is also repeated as the same message in ordinary reality
in a literal sense.
And as I'm typing and recognizing this as a message, I'm getting tons of tingles and shivers that I'm
getting it, I'm listening. So this whole issue of fishing out a rusted old bike from the swap, comes
with it all the parts of me that have been lost along side it.

The thing is, i was ALWAYS on a bike or a scooter as a kid, even well into my 20s i still
rode, i loved it, it was my main means of escape from all the crap at home, i would just take off,
and go on all sorts of adventures. I guess it got replaced by the car, but somehow so did that adventurous
spirit in a way. SO that one image of a rusted old bike has now given me a whole story of self to
unpack and re discover.

And i have just answered also a question i had regarding why i haven't been able to journey much
of late. It's because the processing is so incredibly important, that we need time to sit with things,
before starting potentially a whole new " topic" . I think i heard Stan Graf say that once, of the
psycodelic experiences, there are three stages. The preparation, the experience itself,
and the processing. If you don't process and then integrate what you have learnt it
is an incomplete cycle. And in reality we all have load and loads of incomplete cycles
running all at the same time, which keeps us chasing our tails and never getting anywhere.
Less is for sure more in so many ways.

So to circle back to the topic, shadow work, when you really get into it,
its absolutely rich and revealing, i must say every time i do it with any
depth I really have massive growth spurts.

[Guest]

But between all lies the middle path of acceptance, of openness, of being intensely aware of what, where and who we are, and accepting all that comes to us with a giving and loving heart that knows no boundaries of possibility, seeking resonance and reflection in each other and the world and cosmos that hold us each close, whispering sweet lullabys of yearning and transcendence, soothing our souls as we rush headlong into the Abyss.
http://rahkyt.wordpress.com/



QtzLKmMHrkg

Thank you for Rasa....
Haven't heard that in a while.

There are some recurring themes of late in my life... full circle themes in a way.
One of them is this is all an illusion but then I think of the "illusion" lately, and then
i'm in the Abyss. Then I have a thought or a feeling and then I am in the illusion....

Love

Nora

[ulli]

Oh Astrid I wouldn't have missed that video for the world...
was only sharing my own inner response to it, and usd it as an opportunity for shadow work.
I'm sorry if I came across as overly critical.
I would hate it if my potential response could intimidate or stifle anyone's self expression.

[astrid]

And yes we absolutely should honor the great Carl Jung on this one,
this was one thing he did get a firm grasp of. His work totally cemented the
beginnings of my waking up in this life time, no question.
My father had stacks of Jung books and i was always drawn to them.

I think my Father's library was one of my big saviors, i was never allowed in there,
but i was always sneaking books in an out and reading them by torch light when everyone else was asleep.

No wonder i could never get up to go to school, lol.

@ Ulli its all good, my communication is a bit off right now , as I'm very
deep in my own work, no excuses, but it just means dealing with 3D is
harder, the left brain stuff its a struggle, and my sensitivity is very high.

But i will keep sharing as long as everyone can forgive my crappy spelling
and atrocious use of the king's english, lol.

Hugs

[ulli]

This is the only problem: amnesia.

http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/MimiEunice_07.png

[astrid]

Yes and also this paradox of living both in a duality and as a being of oneness,
i always get this sense of being a pendulum swinging from polarities,
but always connected to that one point in the center.
I guess a fitting metaphor for a double Libran dowser.

Of late i have been finding the perfect marriage in Shamanism and Dowsing,
and even finding more people that work in similar ways.
Like Christian Kyriacou, who i posted a few pages back, and interestingly enough
he is also non - dualistic in his philosophy.
I will post up those three pod casts they were very very good.
Soon.

[astrid]

Its also interesting to note that the writing down of said experiences very much
unpacks more of the story. Just trying to hold things in your head all the time
only really means that things are not fully laid out, well for me anyways.

I went through a stage were i could not write things down, for fear they would
get read, and misused in some way. My Mother used to go through all my things,
my mail, my journals, listen to my phone calls, yes i know, kind of not cool.
When i first joined PA i was terrified of posting , and look at me now, i can't
shut up, lol.
Behaviors designed to help us survive one thing can and do continue on
as patterns even long after the thing we were fighting against no longer exists.
That's what PTSD is, basically. So yeah, the fact i could not write even in my
own journal - when i lived alone, had to be something that was resolved.
And for sure PA has been instrumental in that healing for me, even just that
vehicle to express in a semi- public way is a blessing.

[Heather2017]

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[astrid]

Ok.. i was going to try and figure out how to put up the
mp3s, but i don't have the patience right now.

Go to this link http://www.britishdowsers.org/podcast/archive/2011.shtml

and click on
"AiD 032: Christian Kyriacou - the House Whisperer
8 December 2011 " you will get the first one downloaded.
There are a few sound issues, but its well worth a listen.

And again here,
http://www.britishdowsers.org/podcast/index.shtml
scroll down and you will find parts 2 and 3 from Christian. AiD 033 and 034.


And by the way, even for non- dowsers some of those podcasts are excellent,
some really great interviews with some amazing people doing their best efforts
at making a difference..

[another bob]

There are some recurring themes of late in my life... full circle themes in a way.
One of them is this is all an illusion but then I think of the "illusion" lately, and then
i'm in the Abyss. Then I have a thought or a feeling and then I am in the illusion....

Love

Nora

Yes, Sister, there seems to be a stretch when we sort flip flop back and forth -- an intermediate zone. Then one day somehow we notice that there is no more flip flopping, there is just what is, and we don't know what that is, and it doesn't matter, because the war with ourselves is over, and at the heart, there is peace.

:yo:

[astrid]

Now for me, today.
I'm actually going to, for a change, take the rusty bike metaphor literally and
rescue my 3D land bike from the weather and get it working again.
It will be perfect for riding to the gym.

[eaglespirit]

Forums are just great for shadow work, especially for people who live alone and don't get regular ego knocks from others
like family members who they share their intimate space with.

In a forum setting the troll character provides great shadow work opportunities as do the moderators, depending where one's main issues lie.
Hey, why not go all the way, and identify the collective shadow...
Drug companies and government cover-ups. Even alien races.

http://mimiandeunice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ME_314_AllergicReaction2.png


That's what we're doing : )

[ViralSpiral]

Awesome sharing, thank you.
I stay with my parents when in South Africa. No teachers, trolls or soy sauce required for shadows to show up uninvited ;)
I welcome them (well not all really, if honest - however I can never find the off button on demand) and acknowledge that I still have a looooong and winding road ahead.

[astrid]

I still can't believe i joined the gym, oh well,
this time it has a very different intent than in my
20s and 30s. And i must say it feels pretty freaking
awesome to be getting back into some hardcore physical
work. I think it will help me on so many other levels.
As long i can manage the other crap that goes with gyms,
i will be fine. And today i was the ONLY person in there,
bloody great, i say to that, in my best Aussie accent.

I just found a film that Christian made on a Feng Shui Tour of China
that will be my afternoon viewing. Loving this man's work, and how he combines
so many disciplines into the one practice. It's good to know that there are other
crazies out there, working more broadly.
He's giving me hope and encouragement to continue on with my ever
increasing cocktail of modalities.

[ulli]

..
I operate by the principle 'as above, so below', and vice versa. In other words, the more conflict can be resolved at the individual level the more it can be resolved at the collective level. In order to restore inner balance and harmony I only have to give up some of my emotional addictions.
Yes, drama can definitely be an addiction. It's better to feel important than empty, and the applause from an audience gives a momentary sense of being real.
But there is also the simpler need to teach and instruct others, as a group, not for drama purpose but to maintain a sense of self based on knowingness, which can also be a sign of a narcissistic motive.


Nice Ulli, I agree .. working on yourself is still the necessary nut to crack - then it is hopefully the 100 monkeys effect - to help bring into manifestation a more harmonious society.

Thanks, Z

This made me think a bit.
Is the hundredth monkey effect connected to the 'As above, so below' law?
As a convinced student of astrology I must say definitely No.
In the Hundredth Monkey we still dealing with linear time, or sequential unfolding.
With the other law we are talking about a simulaneous effect.
Some same energy that has parallel influence.
If it weren't so then astrological predictions could never work
as one would never be able to set a time frame for calculating critical mass,
which is basically what the 100th monkey law is about.

[ulli]

Awesome sharing, thank you.
I stay with my parents when in South Africa. No teachers, trolls or soy sauce required for shadows to show up uninvited ;)
I welcome them (well not all really, if honest - however I can never find the off button on demand) and acknowledge that I still have a looooong and winding road ahead.


This is where astrology comes in handy. The study of planetary activity inside of the self.

How do thoughts arise? And how are thoughts connected to subsequent emotions and actions?
Gurdjieff used to use the image of a movie projector.
To see what really happens one slows it down
and watches each frame- one by one.

Then the self can be seen in it's totality and self creation is possible, up to a point, of course.
Before you know it it has changed yet again.

But at least one can change some habitual patterns which are counterproductive in
attaining one's real goals.
Then the long road suddenly shrinks under one's feet and one single step is all that's needed to arrive.

[eaglespirit]

Awesome sharing, thank you.
I stay with my parents when in South Africa. No teachers, trolls or soy sauce required for shadows to show up uninvited ;)
I welcome them (well not all really, if honest - however I can never find the off button on demand) and acknowledge that I still have a looooong and winding road ahead.


This is where astrology comes in handy. The study of planetary activity inside of the self.

How do thoughts arise? And how are thoughts connected to subsequent emotions and actions?
Gurdjieff used to use the image of a movie projector.
To see what really happens one slows it down
and watches each frame- one by one.

Then the self can be seen in it's totality and self creation is possible, up to a point, of course.
Before you know it it has changed yet again.

But at least one can change some habitual patterns which are counterproductive in
attaining one's real goals.
Then the long road suddenly shrinks under one's feet and one single step is all that's needed to arrive.

Toltec "Command of the Eagle"...accessible to All : )

[Calz]

Oh Astrid I wouldn't have missed that video for the world...
was only sharing my own inner response to it, and usd it as an opportunity for shadow work.
I'm sorry if I came across as overly critical.
I would hate it if my potential response could intimidate or stifle anyone's self expression.

Just getting back after a day with the family. Quite a chunk to go through here (and now).

Only a moment now ... just touching on a couple minor things.

ulli, my reaction to your initial response (culminating I guess with this post) would be to offer consideration to those less traveled on this beaten path. It can come off as "spiritual elitism" although I know that wasn't your intent. When someone is reading along and wondering "what's it all about" and takes interest in a post or video to have it followed with a (paraphrasing) "Oh everybody knows that ... so 40 years ago" that can, in fact, have a dampening effect on others.

Perhaps you are used to those who post here (and now) and forget that for every member who posts there are 7 or 8 who lurk (which is fine but should be kept in mind when chosing our words for those that *do* post).

Particularly for a subject that is not easy to face up to as in this one.

Perhaps people heard about this ## years ago and have avoided diving into it even if they were aware.

Perhaps an "in your face" video such as the one astrid posted is just the ticket to get them "over the hump."


My 2cents worth ... and you know me well enough that it isn't meant in the least as criticism.


One other thing popped into my (looney tunes) mind skimming through all this was astrid's bike metaphor.

Last week was the 100 year anniversary of World War 1 and there was a very interesting story that surfaced that I had not heard of before (perhaps others had).


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrwiy8AXqj1qh72u1o1_500.jpg

It's on Vashon Island, in Puget Sound, Washington State. It is real, not photoshopped. It is locally famous. Berkeley Breathed wove a story around this very bicycle in his delightful illustrated book "Red Ranger Came Calling". It's still a big mystery how the bike ended up there. It's been there for decades. Trees do not grow upward from the base of the trunk, they grow from the tips of the topmost branches. Trunks expand outward, not upward, so that if, for example, someone carved a name at eye level on the bark, that name would stay at eye level for the life of the tree. Someone had to have climbed up there on a ladder or something to place the bike there, decades ago, probably in the late 1940's or early 1950's (NOT 1914). I'm fairly sure it was placed there as a practical joke. I suspect a small handful of locals may know the secret--but if so, it's a carefully kept secret. There are many theories...

[ulli]

This is the thing with shadow work, when done in a public setting...we bring the initial, and unprocessed first reaction out in the open.
That's what I did, but not as a reaction, as in knee-jerk, but as an act of honestly offering my own inner processes,
and that's what Calz did, maybe, too.
The actual work can only be done by the individual.

But if you iare now claiming that (imaginary or real ) others might see me as a "spiritual elitist"
when in fact this whole thread testifies that I am not, I would need to ask you, Calz,
where did that idea come from?
Is it a judgment of me based on an assumption of what imaginary others might think?
Or could it be a projection on your part?

[Calz]

This is the thing with shadow work, when done in a public setting...we bring the initial, and unprocessed first reaction out in the open.
That's what I did, but not as a reaction, as in knee-jerk, but as an act of honestly offering my own inner processes,
and that's what Calz did, maybe, too.
The actual work can only be done by the individual.

But if you iare now claiming that (imaginary or real ) others might see me as a "spiritual elitist"
when in fact this whole thread testifies that I am not, I would need to ask you, Calz,
where did that idea come from?
Is it a judgment of me based on an assumption of what imaginary others might think?
Or could it be a projection on your part?

I was simply responding to this:


I would hate it if my potential response could intimidate or stifle anyone's self expression.

Sorry if it came across as anything other ...

:wave:

[ulli]

One more thought:
If my initial unprocessed response to the shadow guy video, which I offered as such,
brings out Calzie's inner judge, which he also acknowledged as such, that is fair enough,
but if that inner judge then leaves me with the tag of "spiritual elitist" pinned to my back,
which he even printed in bold letters,
I need to appeal to his sense of fairness....

Because there are several processes going on here....which is also to show why group shadow work can be so tricky.
Calzie, admit it, you were momentarily identified with the lurkers here and what they might be thinking, more than your own inner core. But you did express your inner core, too, because you have known me for quite a while and know that I am no elitist. So I thank you for that.
But to examine my own motives with the eye of fairness....
Was it out of arrogance that I reacted?
That I have known about this stuff before?
Or was it that I firmly believe that gurus who set themselves up as public guides should cleanse themselves of all
traces of vanity and ego first?

[Calz]

One more thought:
If my initial unprocessed response to the shadow guy video, which I offered as such,
brings out Calzie's inner judge, which he also acknowledged as such, that is fair enough,
but if that inner judge then leaves me with the tag of "spiritual elitist" pinned to my back,
which he even printed in bold letters,
I need to appeal to his sense of fairness....

Because there are several processes going on here....which is also to show why group shadow work can be so tricky.
Calzie, admit it, you were momentarily identified with the lurkers here and what they might be thinking, more than your own inner core. But you did express your inner core, too, because you have known me for quite a while and know that I am no elitist. So I thank you for that.
But to examine my own motives with the eye of fairness....
Was it out of arrogance that I reacted?
That I have known about this stuff before?
Or was it that I firmly believe that gurus who set themselves up as public guides should cleanse themselves of all
traces of vanity and ego first?


I was looking at the post in isolation.

It was not *intended* in any manner whatsover as a "judgement" of you:


It can come off as "spiritual elitism" although I know that wasn't your intent.

My normal formatting uses bold with quotes.


I was trying to add to a wonderful conversation waking up with a cup of coffee.

I meant *no* harm as I thought I made clear ... whether I was projecting stuff or identifying myself subconsiously as a lurker is beyond my humble means.

I leave it to you deep thinkers to ponder.

Once again ... *SORRY* ... if my post was taken on a more personal basis than it was intended.

Guess I will (further) reduce my posts to images and jokes.

[ulli]

Please carry on the debate. But I love your storehouse of pictures, so maybe you can do both.
I had no intention to ruin your breakfast.
My obsession with clarity is a German trait and an astrological trait, but is not meant as punitive.
Just want to have things clear, that's all.

I think it is healthy to express adverse reactions to gurus and preachers. Most of the time I try not to be critical.
But when it comes to clergy and gurus I can become quite merciless.

The famous British shrink R.D. Laing retired early because he felt that communities needed to deal with their stuff without the interference of professionals.
Face to face is much healthier.


Come 'ere

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110808154913/glee/images/c/cd/Vanity_Smurf_Hug.jpg

[Calz]

Fair enough http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shake2.gif

http://www.maurilioamorim.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/partnership-1024x640.jpg

[ulli]

Fair enough http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shake2.gif

http://www.maurilioamorim.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/partnership-1024x640.jpg


Don't mean to be picky, but can't we at least be dressed for the occasion?

http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/queen-handshake.jpg

[Calz]

Don't mean to be picky, but can't we at least be dressed for the occasion?



Naw ...

[setting up modwiz for another fig leaf image ... don't tell anyone :gossip: ]

[ulli]

Don't mean to be picky, but can't we at least be dressed for the occasion?



Naw ...

[setting up modwiz for another fig leaf image ... don't tell anyone :gossip: ]


As you wish. But I ain't doing any handshakes in the nude. Pouting....

http://fareastcynic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/smurfette_by_sygnin.jpeg

[Calz]

Don't mean to be picky, but can't we at least be dressed for the occasion?



Naw ...

[setting up modwiz for another fig leaf image ... don't tell anyone :gossip: ]


As you wish. But I ain't doing any handshakes in the nude. Pouting....

http://fareastcynic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/smurfette_by_sygnin.jpeg


ummm ... well yes ... errr ... if you say ... ummm ... talkin' to me you are???

http://www.bizarrebytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Astonished_Yoda_by_rakufordevian.jpg


Yes ... yes ... surrender I do ...

Take it any more I cannot ...


http://www.loveablekitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/surrender.jpg

[ulli]

Hmmmm....my favorite shadow!
Shall we dance?

[Lisab]

D5E5TjkDvU0

[christian]

You cannot make this up...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582810_10150795179318416_300760038415_9712806_2071896477_n.jpg

http://rt.com/news/egypt-sex-dead-wife-054/

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

You cannot make this up...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582810_10150795179318416_300760038415_9712806_2071896477_n.jpg

http://rt.com/news/egypt-sex-dead-wife-054/

Why do they also have to take the fun out of things by making them legal?

[Carmody]

Back to where this conversation began, namely my emo reaction to someone stating in a preachy tone what to me and many others is already obvious...
He might succeed with his agenda. I wish him luck.
The collective will awaken, one individual at a time. Some will respond to his style, no doubt about it. If his motive is guru vanity I'll have no part. Nor can anyone make me go there.

I hear ya, Sister!

Back around 2003, I wanted to introduce my Beloved to some of the Advaita-flavored nondual teachings that had once inspired me, and so I would take her to Berkeley on Sundays to see a popular teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area, named Adyashanti, with whom I'd felt some resonance. He is popular because he's a good talker, and speaks from a wise place. Now he has a bunch of U-tubes you can watch.

At any rate, after a few such lectures, we were sitting there one Sunday, and in the middle of the lecture, we both suddenly turned to each other and burst out laughing, having come to the simultaneous recognition that we didn't need to be sitting there listening to someone tell us what we've already known, and so we got up and walked out, found a nearby cafe where we enjoyed a good breakfast, laughing the whole time.

Never been to a preacher since that day.

:yo:


Exactly my point. And good for you!

Likewise, when two people are confronting each other in some given scenario..and they simultaneously shoot each other, I shrug and say, 'oh well, that could have turned out better'.

I might get some further reactionary responses for such comment. Which, in fact, could have turned out better....and so on.

[Carmody]

Ok, here is more from my shadow. It LOVES the big ego trip.
It loves standing in front of 200 drooling women with a microphone in my hand; women who are spell-bound by by my voice and wisdom and stage presence...it loves TV studios and the bright lights and being invited to talk shows. Giving interviews.
Tell me., how is the best way to deal with such a shadow, knowing full well where such a path will lead.

I've been in that scenario as well, and I'm good with the crowd and the microphone. I can even recapture the dreamers (attention span) and the stragglers in the crowd. one can even play the game, a relatively serious one, of floating the dual layered comments that awaken the interest of those who have gone to a different level. and so on. What particular use that skill may be, I'm still not clear on.

[another bob]

I might get some further reactionary responses for such comment. Which, in fact, could have turned out better....and so on.


http://i45.tinypic.com/x7tzp.jpg

[ulli]

You cannot make this up...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582810_10150795179318416_300760038415_9712806_2071896477_n.jpg

http://rt.com/news/egypt-sex-dead-wife-054/

Why do they also have to take the fun out of things by making them legal?

Here is my question:

Before this became legal, what was law enforcement like in such a case?

[Carmody]

This looks like it is somehow tied to that psychotic 'honour killing' crap.

[ulli]

In the underbelly of all the various cultures I have encountered there can be found quite a number of disgusting customs.
A head mistress of a Barbados High School once told me that there was an unusually high incidence of teenage girls with syphilis.
It turned out there was a belief that the only cure for syphilis was intercourse with a virgin
and the only virgin a syphilis sufferer could find was his own 12 year old daughter.
So how about if everyone could consider a move to developing countries and start educating the people?
I've done my share and getting tired now. It all seems so hopeless.
What a planet!

[astrid]

IytNBm8WA1c

[mojo]

thanks for sharing so many wonderful "here and now things" my life is certainly enriched because of it.

_JqliHUhlmQ

[astrid]

My here and now, working at processing so much that has happened in the last 2 weeks.
And i have been invited to a Jazz club tonight to watch a daughter of a friend play in her first outside
school event, she plays the Sax. I thought if perfect to get some chill out time from the intensity that has been
my world of late.

Yes i get that here it can be taken that I'm preaching to the choir, but its more just that I'm aware of the
larger audience also and that everyone has their own "doorways" that require different keys to unlock.
Anyways, I have a busy week this week, so most likely not have time to post for a while.

Blessing to all

[Guest]

Strong powerful winds blustered and blew through the mountain today. And what a day.
Quiet clear night in the forest. The sea mists that came in for the past 2 nights
have moved out of the mountains. Clear starry night.
We are having warmer days and nights....

Have been listening to some Peter Gabriel.

N2cdP14Idyw

Love

Nora

[meeradas]

So how about if everyone could consider a move to developing countries and start educating the people?
I've done my share and getting tired now. It all seems so hopeless.
What a planet!

No 'educative measure' will bear sane fruit in this [nut-]case;
whaddayawannado, hand them a... banana??

The planet is quite alright (i know you know).


I am beginning to like the zombie (wife) idea in this regard. :eyebrows: :biggrin1:

[astrid]

Waiting for a train
Also listening to Peter Gabriell
Digging the dirt

[modwiz]

In the underbelly of all the various cultures I have encountered there can be found quite a number of disgusting customs.
A head mistress of a Barbados High School once told me that there was an unusually high incidence of teenage girls with syphilis.
It turned out there was a belief that the only cure for syphilis was intercourse with a virgin
and the only virgin a syphilis sufferer could find was his own 12 year old daughter.
So how about if everyone could consider a move to developing countries and start educating the people?
I've done my share and getting tired now. It all seems so hopeless.
What a planet!

My take on this kind of 'custom' is, "Please cut the sh!t'". This is not a custom, this is an excuse for what is clearly inappropriate behavior. Someone got away with making this up. He, (I'm sure it was a he) went for the big lie. Other men liked what they heard, agreed, and a custom is born.

It is hard to respect a custom so clearly conceived with evil intent. It is hard for people to make a stand and call nonsense for what it is when they are too embroiled in their own dysfuntions and the strange work around excuses they will make up. It is like, "don't call me on my bullsh!t and I won't call you on yours." So the men and women do a sick dance together.

Yes Ulli, living on planet yahoo can get annoying. Poor Gaia, followed by the Archons making little demons of Her children. So many are so weak. You can see why Lucifer made the bet. What a bunch of f**k-ups.

[ulli]

In the underbelly of all the various cultures I have encountered there can be found quite a number of disgusting customs.
A head mistress of a Barbados High School once told me that there was an unusually high incidence of teenage girls with syphilis.
It turned out there was a belief that the only cure for syphilis was intercourse with a virgin
and the only virgin a syphilis sufferer could find was his own 12 year old daughter.
So how about if everyone could consider a move to developing countries and start educating the people?
I've done my share and getting tired now. It all seems so hopeless.
What a planet!

My take on this kind of 'custom' is, "Please cut the f**king sh!t'". This is not a custom, this is an excuse for what is clearly inappropriate behavior. Someone got away with making this up. He, (I'm sure it was a he) went for the big lie. Other men liked what they heard, agreed, and a custom is born.

It is hard to respect a custom so clearly conceived with evil intent. It is hard for people to make a stand and call nonsense for what it is when they are too embroiled in their own dysfuntions and the strange work around excuses they will make up. It is like, "don't call me on my bullsh!t and I won't call you on yours." So the men and women do a sick dance together.

Yes Ulli, living on planet yahoo can get annoying. Poor Gaia, followed by the Archons making little demons of Her children. So many are so weak. You can see why Lucifer made the bet. What a bunch of f**k-ups.

Sharing this made me feel bad and yet better. The secret of unburdening, yet there is the guilt about having passed it on to untold others.

[Rainbowbrite]

I understand that Ulli - but as Astrid said, people have many different keys required to open many different doors. The fact that you did share this may well help someone to wake up from their personal nightmare, whatever that may be. Personally, i'm all for exposing truth, no matter how fetid and rancid it is. It's always improved for getting an airing out...

Modwiz, i couldn't agree more!

I live in a 'socially deprived' area of the UK and i'm increasingly fed up of going round and round on this merry-go-round, worn out with paddling against the stream! So many people in my locale seem to be utterly closed minded to growth, truth and healthy change. I'm a big people watcher and you can see their self perpetuating cyles. And feel the pain. I wish there was a tin foil hat that would cut this out! But that would be sticking my head firmly in the sand - so onwards it is! My aim this year is to do more work in the community.

On the upside my shadow work is going well - processing so much and releasing more, my internal chatter is quieting a little too. I read a comment on a thread here that one person's inner work helps everyone, i think it was Anchor who said it. This really touched me! So i'm sharing it again for members and guests here.

I'm feeling creative and a little introspective today in my here and now, so i'm going to play my lovely new Dan Moi that arrived over the weekend and also play my Didj. Then i think i'll do some crafting and baking...

Wishing you all here in the village the very best of days :)

[eaglespirit]

Reminded of years ago, late teens, waiting tables on the Cape...after hours at the bar with the chef(owners son) and others talking of someone not present in a condescending and demeaning way playing the weaknesses of the missing party to the hilt...I had just walked up and one of the waitresses sitting apart from the revelers that were laughing at others and tearing them down...She shouted from Her spot away from it all and said "I do not think that is funny at all...and a matter of fact your conversation is making me sick"...I walked over to her and said 'way to go'...someone has to put a say into the slime and say their piece and put a halt to it. There was dead silence at the bar when She spoke up for She was a very quiet and well-liked Young Lady and hard worker. We said good night and left together.

[Rainbowbrite]

This is a photo of my youngests contribution to the yearly decorated egg competition (from last year), he did have a little help - i'm really not certain who enjoyed making it more!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15793&thumb=1&d=1335178276

Sometimes i feel like Bilbo, setting out on the journey - i've been on this crazy journey of awakening for a couple of decades now, but i'm always in 'beginners mind' :) Sometimes i wish i was more like Gandalf all the time...

The year previous to that was Star Wars - Return of the Eggi, sadly, no photos of that one!

[Calz]

This is a photo of my youngests contribution to the yearly decorated egg competition (from last year), he did have a little help - i'm really not certain who enjoyed making it more!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15793&thumb=1&d=1335178276

Sometimes i feel like Bilbo, setting out on the journey - i've been on this crazy journey of awakening for a couple of decades now, but i'm always in 'beginners mind' :) Sometimes i wish i was more like Gandalf all the time...

Very cool. Kids make it all worthwhile ... at least for me ... at least most of the time ... :juggle:




The year previous to that was Star Wars - Return of the Eggi, sadly, no photos of that one!


Very good year it was ... one photo saved I have ...


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wGr8njEWjtI/TLPg6y-S5OI/AAAAAAAANYs/HNEs5NlViv8/s1600/sage_82+yoda+pumpkin.jpg

[Rainbowbrite]

Reminded of years ago, late teens, waiting tables on the Cape...after hours at the bar with the chef(owners son) and others talking of someone not present in a condescending and demeaning way playing the weaknesses of the missing party to the hilt...I had just walked up and one of the waitresses sitting apart from the revelers that were laughing at others and tearing them down...She shouted from Her spot away from it all and said "I do not think that is funny at all...and a matter of fact your conversation is making me sick"...I walked over to her and said 'way to go'...someone has to put a say into the slime and say their piece and put a halt to it. There was dead silence at the bar when She spoke up for She was a very quiet and well-liked Young Lady and hard worker. We said good night and left together.

I love stories like this! Thank you eaglespirit, for brightening my day ♥ :)

[Rainbowbrite]

Very cool. Kids make it all worthwhile ... at least for me ... at least most of the time ... :juggle:

LOL, they do, usually :) And thanks! We had great fun making it!

I've learnt a lot from my children, like how raising teenagers is like trying to nail jelly to a tree hehehe... All worth it in the end - i'm sure!

Your pumpkin Yoda, fantastic it is :)

[Calz]

Very cool. Kids make it all worthwhile ... at least for me ... at least most of the time ... :juggle:

LOL, they do, usually :) And thanks! We had great fun making it!

I've learnt a lot from my children, like how raising teenagers is like trying to nail jelly to a tree hehehe... All worth it in the end - i'm sure!

Your pumpkin Yoda, fantastic it is :)

My oldest is 15 so having "fun" with the driving thing ...

Thank you ... my mistake ... found another from that year I have ...


http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/geek_pumpkin_2007.jpg

[Rainbowbrite]

Calz... pictures of pumpkins you have found... amazing they are...

Here's one of mine from last year:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15791&thumb=1&d=1335178073

I was aiming for a 'hoary old man' sort of look...

[astrid]

Well successful venture out of my cave
Was fun seeing all the kids from this performing
arts school doing their jazz thing .
So much talent very inspiring indeed .
Now back on train heading home to my dogs

It's odd though as I could swear I'm going in the
opposite direction and yes I'm on the correct train
Strange my bearings are all twisted
Maybe that's what a room full of ppl and not much
air does to me these days

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!
Odd things happening. The oddest: I have a modern phone that recently decided to stop working properly so I switched back to my ancient flip-phone from maybe three years ago. Turned off my modern phone and left it on my bookshelf above my desk. Last night I was watching a movie and at one point there was a harmonic buildup in the sound field almost loud enough to hurt my ears - and my turned off, modern phone...turned itself back on! Don't know why but I immediately went into panic mode and without thinking I smashed it to bits against the wall, removed the memory card and battery, snapped the Sim card in half and tossed the lot in the garbage.
Then I did some meditation to recenter, lit a candle and later laughed about the whole thing.
Now I'm wondering if any of this has anything to do with my current reading material: The Second Ring of Power by Carlos Castenanda and The 12th Planet by Sitchin...
Anyways, glad to see all is still well here, in the village.
Blessings to all.
Hugs,
Ernie

[ulli]

Reminded of years ago, late teens, waiting tables on the Cape...after hours at the bar with the chef(owners son) and others talking of someone not present in a condescending and demeaning way playing the weaknesses of the missing party to the hilt...I had just walked up and one of the waitresses sitting apart from the revelers that were laughing at others and tearing them down...She shouted from Her spot away from it all and said "I do not think that is funny at all...and a matter of fact your conversation is making me sick"...I walked over to her and said 'way to go'...someone has to put a say into the slime and say their piece and put a halt to it. There was dead silence at the bar when She spoke up for She was a very quiet and well-liked Young Lady and hard worker. We said good night and left together.

Gossiping and backbiting have both positive and negative functions.
Of course, in the long term it is always negative as it is such a divisive
pursuit and in the end will lead to someone's felings getting hurt.

But while it happens, when no consequences have to be considered,
it creates feelings of intimacy between the various parties and that is
why it will always continue to happen.

Even though I finally outgrew my own love for gossip there are still moments
in conversations with my husband where we might dissect a family member
who's behaviour is particularly mystifying to us.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!


Hiya Ernie, sorry you're not feeling good brother. But it's not the fickle weather, it's because you cursed yourself.http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44094-Still-Drinking-Coca-Cola-Watch-this&p=475200#post475200

[ulli]

Well successful venture out of my cave
Was fun seeing all the kids from this performing
arts school doing their jazz thing .
So much talent very inspiring indeed .
Now back on train heading home to my dogs

It's odd though as I could swear I'm going in the
opposite direction and yes I'm on the correct train
Strange my bearings are all twisted
Maybe that's what a room full of ppl and not much
air does to me these days

Getting disoriented or lost is a Pisces thing, and of course, also 12th house thing, and a Neptune thing.
So even if a person does not have any Pisces in their chart a prominent Neptune will have the same effect, also having planets in the 12th house, which I know you do.

Which means that this issue will continue to flare up periodically.
Being able to journey in other dimensions is the positive side of this.

[ulli]

Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!
Odd things happening. The oddest: I have a modern phone that recently decided to stop working properly so I switched back to my ancient flip-phone from maybe three years ago. Turned off my modern phone and left it on my bookshelf above my desk. Last night I was watching a movie and at one point there was a harmonic buildup in the sound field almost loud enough to hurt my ears - and my turned off, modern phone...turned itself back on! Don't know why but I immediately went into panic mode and without thinking I smashed it to bits against the wall, removed the memory card and battery, snapped the Sim card in half and tossed the lot in the garbage.
Then I did some meditation to recenter, lit a candle and later laughed about the whole thing.
Now I'm wondering if any of this has anything to do with my current reading material: The Second Ring of Power by Carlos Castenanda and The 12th Planet by Sitchin...
Anyways, glad to see all is still well here, in the village.
Blessings to all.
Hugs,
Ernie

This Village can help even with a cold, Ernie.
Sending healing energies now.

I must say, I'm a bit concerned about you smashing a good phone, though.


***After re-reading I saw the situation more clearly....the noise factor made you do it.
Now I can sympathize.

[1inMany]

Hi All,

I can report absolutely beautiful weather from my little slice of heaven. It's warm and breezy. Today is Em's 13th birthday. Big year for MamaBear, 21, 16 and 13. Wow. Difficulty staying in the here and now. I can hear the birds cheerily and busily chirping, see the trees dancing when the wind comes through, smell the freshly cut hay in the pasture nearby. But I can't tell you that helps me to feel grounded here, participatory. Mostly I feel detached and observatory (haha). I thought all the yard work I have been doing since last Wednesday would help with that, but actually it didn't even help a little bit. I've planted lots and lots of flowers...petunias, calla and day lillies, geraniums...oh, and I now have a strawberry plant! I usually have a green thumb when it comes to flowery things, but pretty much everything else dies in my care. Making a concerted effort.

Since my little spot is not too zen, it is more a Serenity Garden. It is so nice outside, I could sit there and do absolutely nothing but recover from the busy-busy-busy surrounding me. Probably would do me a world of good, but I'm anxious today for some reason.

Em woke me up in the middle of the night because M has apparently gotten a stomach bug. Have her Phenergan and a cold cloth :( Hope that doesn't run through us all like wildfire...sort of a toss up whether it will. I will have to be careful and keep her hydrated because of her lithium...

Wonderful sharing while I was away from the Village, though how can one truly ever be away...

Much Love to you all,

[ulli]

I've been looking at different threads recently.
And even though many deal with the Drake materials nearly all of them only show differences of opinions between the participants.
There are many talented OPs (opening posters?) yet I feel nearly all of them need to learn
how to manage the interruptions that invariably appear on their threads,
often breaking the continuity of healthy flow of discussions towards a conclusion which would then hopefully unite more individuals into cohesive communities.

I see this thread still as the best example of how to get around the various issues...and the figures speak for themselves...over 300,000 views....
yet even though there are still quite a few moments of busy participation I feel the original vision I had needs to be refreshed.
Not necessarily at this thread alone, but all over Avalon.
I would love to know if others here see this too.

The big questions like "what is life on earth all about?" and "what is Avalon about?"
have created a gathering here of people (all over the web) who have broken away from MSM
memes, and are exploring highly complex and infinite multiverse truths.

Yet if we want to be really effective in easing a worldwide transformation process along, thus avoiding wide-spread trauma,
which I believe can only happen when a sufficiently large group of individuals has succeeded in transforming themselves,
then I think a bit more focus on unity is needed.

We know the PTB out there use occult practices and have highly evolved minds, and so they have the edge.
But what about their hearts?
What we here at the Here and Now Village have is a commitment to a more spiritual approach,
one where minds and hearts can operate in unison.
Having bright members in our core group has created a critical mass that brought us lots of attention,
but a large part of that was an entertainment factor.
I would love to keep this momentum going, not for my sake or entertainment's sake but for the sake of the ideals that most here at Avalon share.
What is needed is more solid memes, to get the alternative community onto the same page.

Not everyone has discovered yet that the law of attraction is real, or that the energetic universe responds to calls from even the least of us,
but when they do then the next step is to start working with our own myth-making capacities and create a more unified vision of everyone's utopian world.

*****From Wikipedia:
A meme ( /ˈmiːm/; meem)[1]) is "an idea, behavior or style that spreads from person to person within a culture."[2] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols or practices, which can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals or other imitable phenomena. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate and respond to selective pressures.

[1inMany]

Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!
Odd things happening. The oddest: I have a modern phone that recently decided to stop working properly so I switched back to my ancient flip-phone from maybe three years ago. Turned off my modern phone and left it on my bookshelf above my desk. Last night I was watching a movie and at one point there was a harmonic buildup in the sound field almost loud enough to hurt my ears - and my turned off, modern phone...turned itself back on! Don't know why but I immediately went into panic mode and without thinking I smashed it to bits against the wall, removed the memory card and battery, snapped the Sim card in half and tossed the lot in the garbage.
Then I did some meditation to recenter, lit a candle and later laughed about the whole thing.
Now I'm wondering if any of this has anything to do with my current reading material: The Second Ring of Power by Carlos Castenanda and The 12th Planet by Sitchin...
Anyways, glad to see all is still well here, in the village.
Blessings to all.
Hugs,
Ernie

Ernie, this reminds me of our smoke detector thing...about 6 months after we moved into our house (in the hood), the smoke detectors began beeping one at a time once in a while. We assumed it was time to replace the batteries in them, so Mike started one by one removing the batteries as each alarm let us know. One particular smoke alarm was attached to the cathedral ceiling and no one could reach it, so he basically had to knock it down. We couldn't figure out how to get it back up there, so we just left the battery out and set it atop a free-standing cabinet we have. Next day, we kept hearing another intermittent beep, but for the life of us could not locate another smoke alarm. Eventually we discovered it was the one with no battery beeping. We were sort of, um, surprised by this, so we both stood staring at it for the longest time. That attracted the kids like bees to honey, they heard it and then we had the problem of not wanting to turn the lights off, not being able to sleep etc lol. We told the kids it was my mom, their Grandma, saying hi. We told them she just wanted us to know she still loves us and is with us. I thought that would be so comforting, but actually the girls asked if I could tell her to stop it. Lol...

anyway, just reminded me...

[Guest]

Woke up to another beautiful Spring day in the forest and a lot of noisy little birds singing.
White Tail is on the front porch taking a sun bath.
Have some errands to run today and buy a few new tools for the yard.
I have to trim the trees to a height of 3 to 6 ft. above ground and trim down any tall grasses.
The fire dept. and forestry dept. requires what is called defensible space
around properties for 300ft. It's a hefty fine if you don't.
It's an old growth forest -a lot of beautiful very old trees, and survived 2 of the San Diego fires.

I am in agreement with you guys about "sick customs" turned my stomach and steam came out of ears.
here is another one that's been around for eons & many, many women die from it.

Information on Female Genital Mutilation
There is an estimated 135 million girls and women that have gone through this procedure with an additional 2 million a year at risk. This procedure is practiced in Africa (28 countries), Middle East, parts of Asia as well as in North America, Latin America, and as well as in Europe. It is now believed that the practice originated in Africa and is a cultural practice. Follow this link (http://www.religioustolerance.org.fem_cirm.html/) to see some indicators supporting this conclusion.
http://wolvesdreams.tripod.com/FGM.html

Here is a link also to support women
https://give.womenforwomen.org/donate/index.htm?wfw=donatesrch&utm_source=google_paid&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=search

Love

Nora

(https://give.womenforwomen.org/donate/index.htm?wfw=donatesrch&utm_source=google_paid&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=search)

[ulli]

Thanks Nora, this one has be to wiped out once and forever, like Smallpox...gone gone gone.

Here is the movie about the brave African model Waris Dirie who brought this ghastly reality to the attention of the world, via Elle Magazine.

She was discovered by the late great Terence Donovan...


la5apMluzA8

[Ernie Nemeth]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!
Hiya Ernie, sorry you're not feeling good brother. But it's not the fickle weather, it's because you cursed yourself. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...200#post475200


Totally agree with you, Fred!
But listen to what is written between your lines. What you are saying, and I believe this is the consensus view, is that I cannot keep myself healthy but I can make myself sick!
What I was trying to convey in that thread was what is possible - I knew it could backfire. And it almost did. But I'm alright now because: I DO NOT GET SICK!

[Calz]

I know there are a few west coasters here.

Already started a thread (based on a post from Dutchsinse distributed by Gilliland) but calling attention to something that may or may not be quite important.


-vc8Z4oV4Fk

[ulli]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!
Hiya Ernie, sorry you're not feeling good brother. But it's not the fickle weather, it's because you cursed yourself. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...200#post475200


Totally agree with you, Fred!
But listen to what is written between your lines. What you are saying, and I believe this is the consensus view, is that I cannot keep myself healthy but I can make myself sick!
What I was trying to convey in that thread was what is possible - I knew it could backfire. And it almost did. But I'm alright now because: I DO NOT GET SICK!

Well, Ernie I wouldn't call it the consensus view. Maybe not even Fred's view.
A lot of illnesses are psycho-somatic, or self inflicted. That's for sure.
But when one studies the Placebo Effect one can see that health can also be attained via a person's beliefs.

But just like it takes a bit more effort to build a house than demolish it,
so equally getting sanity established and maintained may also be a bit harder.

But that's where group work comes in handy... a concerted effort to help an individual to get to a full-blasting state of health more quickly.

[PurpleLama]

I know there are a few west coasters here.

Already started a thread (based on a post from Dutchsinse distributed by Gilliland) but calling attention to something that may or may not be quite important.


-vc8Z4oV4Fk


Just before this occurred, I ordered a few bottles of Atomidine, which is an Edgar Cayce supplement known to protect the body from the effects from the ingestion of isotopes. All because a little birdie told me to, in my meditation. Gotta remember to go back and thank that little birdie.

Atomidine is available through www.caycecures.com and through the A.R.E.

[Calz]

I know there are a few west coasters here.

Already started a thread (based on a post from Dutchsinse distributed by Gilliland) but calling attention to something that may or may not be quite important.


-vc8Z4oV4Fk


Just before this occurred, I ordered a few bottles of Atomidine, which is an Edgar Cayce supplement known to protect the body from the effects from the ingestion of isotopes. All because a little birdie told me to, in my meditation. Gotta remember to go back and thank that little birdie.

Atomidine is available through www.caycecures.com and through the A.R.E.

Your little birdie sounds like a good 2nd source and perhaps this is something to take seriously (amidst all the nonsense).

[Guest]

Thanks Nora, this one has be to wiped out once and forever, like Smallpox...gone gone gone.

Here is the movie about the brave African model Waris Dirie who brought this ghastly reality to the attention of the world, via Elle Magazine.

She was discovered by the late great Terence Donovan...


la5apMluzA8

From the Somali desert to the world’s catwalks. When Waris Dirie’s DESERT FLOWER appeared in 1998, the world was shocked. The former supermodel tells her breathtaking life story, describing her incredible journey from a nomadic life in the deserts of Somalia to the world’s most famous catwalks. This was a dream and a nightmare at the same time. In New York, at the peak of her career, she tells in an interview of the practice of female genital mutilation that she had to suffer when she was five. Waris Dirie decides to end her life as a model and dedicate her life to fighting this archaic ritual.
http://www.desertflowerfoundation.org/en/desert-flower-the-movie/

Thank you Ulli,

Put on my list of must watch and read the book.

I was not aware of Female Genital Mutilation until my late 20's early 30's when a discussion opened up
among some friends of mine from a Tibetan meditation group. It was another one of those awakening moments
for me. Based on the fact that I was an ignorant American and that I was living in my perceived "safe American life."

Love

Nora

[modwiz]

This is a photo of my youngests contribution to the yearly decorated egg competition (from last year), he did have a little help - i'm really not certain who enjoyed making it more!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=15793&thumb=1&d=1335178276

Sometimes i feel like Bilbo, setting out on the journey - i've been on this crazy journey of awakening for a couple of decades now, but i'm always in 'beginners mind' :) Sometimes i wish i was more like Gandalf all the time...

The year previous to that was Star Wars - Return of the Eggi, sadly, no photos of that one!

It is my guess that Gandalf thought Bilbo had a very good life. I am of the belief that it is good mental health to never want to be anyone other than oneself, especially since that really is the only option. However, being inspired to emulate our version of a path someone else blazed first, or before us, is altogether wholesome, IMO.

[Lisab]

Well successful venture out of my cave
Was fun seeing all the kids from this performing
arts school doing their jazz thing .
So much talent very inspiring indeed .
Now back on train heading home to my dogs

It's odd though as I could swear I'm going in the
opposite direction and yes I'm on the correct train
Strange my bearings are all twisted
Maybe that's what a room full of ppl and not much
air does to me these days

Getting disoriented or lost is a Pisces thing, and of course, also 12th house thing, and a Neptune thing.
So even if a person does not have any Pisces in their chart a prominent Neptune will have the same effect, also having planets in the 12th house, which I know you do.

Which means that this issue will continue to flare up periodically.
Being able to journey in other dimensions is the positive side of this.

Lol getting lost is a Pisces thing. Yep that's so me. No sense of direction! I think I career through life with a sort of a "GET OUT OF THE WAY, I CANT CONTROL THIS THING"! A few years ago I left a party early and decided to make my way to the taxi rank. The area I was in was just outside my hometown. It was about 11pm. I took a wrong turn and the next thing I know Im wandering around a green, leafy subourb thinking "wow its so pretty here, I want to live here so much". I wandered for HOURS in my wedge shoes but totally oblivious to the pain. It was summer, a full moon and the stars were out. I was lovin it. I felt so peaceful and at ease.
Finally I saw a taxi dropping some pissed, merry revellers back from town and I jumped in. It was 3am! I couldnt believe it and neither could the taxi driver, when I told him my story. I was miles from my friends house that I'd left. But it all worked out for me in the end. Years later, I met my little ones dad, and he's from that same area. So here I now live, not with him anymore, but renting a great little house. My rent is even cheaper than in town, unusual for this area and my landlord is great. My little one goes to an excellent school and my eldest has agreat life here. The universe was obviously listening to me that night!

[Samsara]

I'm back home from a training weekend near Montréal. The training was over my expectations and I have now a better view of what I want to do next in this life. I've met very interesting and loving people whom I will get to see again. The instructor has gone to Omega many times and talked very fondly of the work being done there, so the Village was with me all the time.

Since I was close to my sister's place, I went for a visit yesterday evening and this morning. It had been over 12 years since I went to see her at her home. I was genuinely happy to be there. We had a great time together and I told her I would go back sometime this summer. I thank the villagers who have helped me go through one tough layer of pain, so that I can now see the greater picture in my relationship with my sister. It is still a work in progress, but peace has found its way and the healing is happening.

POd8n0HSp9E

[giovonni]

From my new Eceti friend ~ C A L M

the future is now ~ from this point on ... anything and everything is possible ... :dance3:

:cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQITWbAaDx0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQITWbAaDx0

[Belle]

Trying to catch up with the forum, I just ran across the thread on Sean Penn and his continuing relief efforts Haiti...found here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44410-Sean-Penn-does-not-give-up-still-camped-out-in-Haiti-helping-a-country-rebuild

I'm still a bit choked up. While the politicians played their political games, one man stood up and made/continues to make a difference in the lives of the people displaced by the earthquake in Haiti over two years ago.

Never underestimate the power of one.

Imagine if each one of us did one thing daily to help just one person in our own communities...no matter how small it may seem at the time...what a difference we could make.

[Carmody]

Thanks Nora, this one has be to wiped out once and forever, like Smallpox...gone gone gone.

Here is the movie about the brave African model Waris Dirie who brought this ghastly reality to the attention of the world, via Elle Magazine.

She was discovered by the late great Terence Donovan...


la5apMluzA8

From the Somali desert to the world’s catwalks. When Waris Dirie’s DESERT FLOWER appeared in 1998, the world was shocked. The former supermodel tells her breathtaking life story, describing her incredible journey from a nomadic life in the deserts of Somalia to the world’s most famous catwalks. This was a dream and a nightmare at the same time. In New York, at the peak of her career, she tells in an interview of the practice of female genital mutilation that she had to suffer when she was five. Waris Dirie decides to end her life as a model and dedicate her life to fighting this archaic ritual.
http://www.desertflowerfoundation.org/en/desert-flower-the-movie/

Thank you Ulli,

Put on my list of must watch and read the book.

I was not aware of Female Genital Mutilation until my late 20's early 30's when a discussion opened up
among some friends of mine from a Tibetan meditation group. It was another one of those awakening moments
for me. Based on the fact that I was an ignorant American and that I was living in my perceived "safe American life."

Love

Nora

male genital mutilation is exceedingly common and needs to be made illegal, with severe (ie, real) penalties.

[another bob]

No 'educative measure' will bear sane fruit in this [nut-]case;
whaddayawannado, hand them a... banana??

The planet is quite alright (i know you know).


I am beginning to like the zombie (wife) idea in this regard. :eyebrows: :biggrin1:


http://i49.tinypic.com/1tr7kh.jpg

[Guest]

Thanks Nora, this one has be to wiped out once and forever, like Smallpox...gone gone gone.

Here is the movie about the brave African model Waris Dirie who brought this ghastly reality to the attention of the world, via Elle Magazine.

She was discovered by the late great Terence Donovan...


la5apMluzA8

From the Somali desert to the world’s catwalks. When Waris Dirie’s DESERT FLOWER appeared in 1998, the world was shocked. The former supermodel tells her breathtaking life story, describing her incredible journey from a nomadic life in the deserts of Somalia to the world’s most famous catwalks. This was a dream and a nightmare at the same time. In New York, at the peak of her career, she tells in an interview of the practice of female genital mutilation that she had to suffer when she was five. Waris Dirie decides to end her life as a model and dedicate her life to fighting this archaic ritual.
http://www.desertflowerfoundation.org/en/desert-flower-the-movie/

Thank you Ulli,

Put on my list of must watch and read the book.

I was not aware of Female Genital Mutilation until my late 20's early 30's when a discussion opened up
among some friends of mine from a Tibetan meditation group. It was another one of those awakening moments
for me. Based on the fact that I was an ignorant American and that I was living in my perceived "safe American life."

Love

Nora

male genital mutilation is exceedingly common and needs to be made illegal, with severe (ie, real) penalties.

The below article contains maps of regions where male circumcision/mutilation is performed in rituals and by the medical profession.

Circumcision only gained the status of being a "hygienic operation" in relatively recent times, although the most recent and best medical evidence has in fact shown that routine circumcision has neither short nor long-term hygienic benefits; indeed, it has mild to severe negative psychological and physiological effects. Particularly in the bush, under less than sanitary conditions, the circumcised boy infant or child would have been at greater risk than the uncircumcised boy. The most severe male genital mutilation, a form of skinstripping, was practiced along the Red Sea coast in Arabia and Yemen, at least into the 1800s. Here, in an endurance ritual performed on a potential marriage candidate, skin was flayed from the entire penile shaft as well as from a region of the pubis. The community blessing would only be bestowed upon the young man who could refrain from expressing emotion during the event (DeMeo 1986)
http://www.noharmm.org/geography.htm

Love

Nora

[Carmody]

doing this to a youth warps the mind. It causes a block to occur regarding connection to the spiritual and the parental situation. It also causes a block that disallows this issue to be cleared and it is is deeply involved in the formation of the mind. Severe pain, a month of urinating into an open wound, right at birth, when the wiring is forming.

So the root emotional stance is one of psychological disconnect, fear, and thus violence in later life and a limited intellect. It is also, traditionally in Jewish religion, done at the 7 day mark, so that, astrologically speaking, the formative emotions are 'square' (90 degrees off) to the original emotional astrological imprint.

it also causes permanent and continual penile erotic stimulation at a low level,and thus the imprint after the damage is done to the mind, with regard to emotional and spiritual blocks, then the mind forms around the idea of overt sexuality. since the normal aspect of the sheath on the head of the penis is missing, then extreme levels of sexual simulation are required to reach sexual satisfaction.

After careful analysis, I come to the conclusion that this was a purposeful and direct design to skew humanity as much as possible and to put an emotionally unrealized, low intellect, violent, and unable to reach the maximum spiritual plane... male.... in charge of the human condition. That this was specifically designed as a destructive device and method.

This is probably, one of, if not the biggest challenges in front of humanity at this time, regarding a thing that needs be outlawed. At the very least it is a contender, it is on the table... for being one of the most important subjects and issues in front of us.

To put it bluntly, it is bigger than the idea of the government educating your children.

Every person whom I've spoken with, who has had their male child circumcised, has reported that there was a time in early youth (before the age of 5, approx) where the child ended up constantly holding their penis, due to stimulation and pain.

[eaglespirit]

...and on and on and on

Transmute, Transform, Transcend...Together, One by One by One

[ViralSpiral]

Another glorious, sunny day (24 degrees C in Autumn!!) in Johannesburg.
Connections with old friends, tanking positive vibes, has been very welcome as my days ahead are still fraught with uncertainty....
Spending quality time with my aging parents has also been a gift. Yesterday we went to the movies to see Best exotic Marigold Hotel.
What a delightful film. Intellectual snobs have been critical of this gem calling it contrived, predictable and cliche'ed. I moon them, cos I LOVED IT. A stellar cast with profound moments and little wake-up calls.

dDY89LYxK0w


I grew up in a country where cultural customs (many bizarre and cruel) abound.
When AIDS became prevalent, sangomas called for white babies to create antidotes. Sleeping with child virgins was also recommended. The white man was called the devil for attempting to implement the use of condoms, accusing 'educators' of trying to stem their family growth. We have come a long way, but it's all far from over. The president is of course famous for saying he can wash AIDS away during a shower.

In the meantime, it was announced on the news today that gasoline is to go up another 28c!!!
The commentator said he will now have to push his car to the work.

Today is "Workers Day". We are reminded of our frailty and dependance. Yet the essence behind my fingerprint is free.

On and on and on...... :)

[ViralSpiral]

Since I was close to my sister's place, I went for a visit yesterday evening and this morning.  It had been over 12 years since I went to see her at her home.  I was genuinely happy to be there.  We had a great time together and I told her I would go back sometime this summer.  I thank the villagers who have helped me go through one tough layer of pain, so that I can now see the greater picture in my relationship with my sister.  It is still a work in progress, but peace has found its way and the healing is happening.


 

This is SUCH good news!!!
I am prodded to ask for 'help' too. Calz's hot poker stick pushed me over the precipice ;) (love ya!)
It's hard for me to reach out, something I am still learning. 
Decisions at boardroom level are beyond my control and should the pendulum knock me off of my perch, may my heart remain calm in the storm. The tourism industry is hugely affected by the economic landscape and cutting costs (and corners) becomes part of the harvest. 



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[modwiz]

Gentle rains tickle the tarp over my tent with the special song they sing. I love life in my tent and community. I am really enjoying Eaglespirit being here in this special place at this special time. It is interesting to be able to discuss the Avalon topics du jour face to face with nobody interjecting an 'enlightened viewpoint to the contrary.

Ulli, your idea of creating memes is one I have had for some time, so seeing you put it out there made me happy. Creating a meaningful one would make us all happy, methinks. Memes are powerful affirmations, whether for good or ill. Time for some positive and paradigm shifting ones.

[ViralSpiral]

Gentle rains tickle the tarp over my tent with the special song they sing. I love life in my tent and community. I am really enjoying Eaglespirit being here in this special place at this special time. It is interesting to be able to discuss the Avalon topics du jour face to face with nobody interjecting an 'enlightened viewpoint to the contrary.

Ulli, your idea of creating memes is one I have had for some time, so seeing you put it out there made me happy. Creating a meaningful one would make us all happy, methinks. Memes are powerful affirmations, whether for good or ill. Time for some positive and paradigm shifting ones.


Love the idea of living in a tent
Love the trickle of rain
Love that you get to spend time with another villager
Love positive memes
Love love

http://babblogue.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/6a00c22521f1bdf21900e398f6cb3c0005.jpg

[meeradas]

Just realized that i've got nothing to say.

[ViralSpiral]

Just realized that i've got nothing to say.


At all?
Grateful for your presence then

[Calz]

Just realized that i've got nothing to say.


Cool.

We have a new nominee for the *Most Love From the Village Award*.

Now all we need is about 20 more "thank yous" and the trophy will go to meeradas :humble:

[meeradas]

Thank you. Sincerely.
Cal: No space for trophies left!

K9dLKJGh-Zg

[Ernie Nemeth]

Wish I had said nothing...
Sipping my Neo Citron.
Damn

[Calz]

Wish I had said nothing...
Sipping my Neo Citron.
Damn


... about this?:


Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Hi everyone.
My here and now: Feeling sick for the first time in five years - it's the fickle weather, you see. I am in the process of stopping it from becoming a full blown cold, so no work today. I do not get sick, is my motto, especially today!
Hiya Ernie, sorry you're not feeling good brother. But it's not the fickle weather, it's because you cursed yourself. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...200#post475200


Totally agree with you, Fred!
But listen to what is written between your lines. What you are saying, and I believe this is the consensus view, is that I cannot keep myself healthy but I can make myself sick!
What I was trying to convey in that thread was what is possible - I knew it could backfire. And it almost did. But I'm alright now because: I DO NOT GET SICK!


I hope that means you are feeling better :nod:

[eaglespirit]

The Dreamscape is Showing Itself Through the Heartbeat of Higher Love...
May It Touch All Around and Abound...from the Here and Now!

Gifted a Wizard-Ware Coat of Nature Last Nite...
a Humble Nod of Gratitude, It Shall be Worn with Heartfelt Harmony : )

[ulli]

Lol getting lost is a Pisces thing. Yep that's so me. No sense of direction! I think I career through life with a sort of a "GET OUT OF THE WAY, I CANT CONTROL THIS THING"! A few years ago I left a party early and decided to make my way to the taxi rank. The area I was in was just outside my hometown. It was about 11pm. I took a wrong turn and the next thing I know Im wandering around a green, leafy subourb thinking "wow its so pretty here, I want to live here so much". I wandered for HOURS in my wedge shoes but totally oblivious to the pain. It was summer, a full moon and the stars were out. I was lovin it. I felt so peaceful and at ease.
Finally I saw a taxi dropping some pissed, merry revellers back from town and I jumped in. It was 3am! I couldnt believe it and neither could the taxi driver, when I told him my story. I was miles from my friends house that I'd left. But it all worked out for me in the end. Years later, I met my little ones dad, and he's from that same area. So here I now live, not with him anymore, but renting a great little house. My rent is even cheaper than in town, unusual for this area and my landlord is great. My little one goes to an excellent school and my eldest has agreat life here. The universe was obviously listening to me that night!

I meant to tell you how much I loved your story. After saying that thing about Pisces and that they have no sense of direction I had thought about it and wanted to correct myself.
Truth is that Pisces can have a better sense of direction than any other sign as they have one foot in the other dimension.
But since 4D is a mixture of good and bad spirits there is one lesson to be learnt, which is watch out for bad company.

[Samsara]

I'll be delivering sollicitation letters to a couple of Garden Centers today. The garden work is starting this week. Exciting times.

Happy Beltane !

[ulli]

I guess I'm still stuck in shadow work mode. Collective shadow, not personal.
Not sure which of the two is healthier.
As an As above, so belower I should just stick with the work on self,
as that would automatically have an effect on the whole.

But what do you guys make of this web page?
There are expats right here in Costa Rica who started a Baptist church and are spreading those teachings.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427

[PurpleLama]

That website is a total spoof. It is a fictional church in a fictional town. It's funny as hell (pun intended) for a fully recovered fundamentalist christian, IMO.

[astrid]

Fascinating interview - KC with remote viewer Courtney Brown

5n5CccCbvkY

Looks like he will be coming back again,
so much more to talk about

[astrid]

Ok on that note it's sleep time for me
Class in the morning after a week off
which feels more like a month given all that
I have been wading through. So interested
to view myself in reflection gained through working
in a group, should be insightful . Hopefully I get
enough zzzzzzs..... mind very busy after watching that
RV interview .

[ulli]

That website is a total spoof. It is a fictional church in a fictional town. It's funny as hell (pun intended) for a fully recovered fundamentalist christian, IMO.

When I saw the picture of the car I knew it had to be a spoof.
Thanks for clarifying. Will sleep better now.

[Calz]

Will sleep better now.



Huh???

What's that??? :sleep:

[ulli]

Will sleep better now.



Huh???

What's that??? :sleep:

Sweet dreams Papa Calz.

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af92/xoxosos100/Sleeping_Papa_Smurf.gif

[PurpleLama]

Took my first dose of Atomidine, a few hours ago, and I must say the results are, um, entertaining. I actually feel slightly intoxicated, giddy, even. So this is what treating iodine deficency feels like. I will definitely be getting used to this, having all the glands working better than ever.

[Carmody]

Polarizing study:

Highly religious people are less motivated by compassion than are non-believers

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-04-highly-religious-people-compassion-non-believers.html#firstCmt

"Love thy neighbor" is preached from many a pulpit. But new research from the University of California, Berkeley, suggests that the highly religious are less motivated by compassion when helping a stranger than are atheists, agnostics and less religious people.

In three experiments, social scientists found that compassion consistently drove less religious people to be more generous. For highly religious people, however, compassion was largely unrelated to how generous they were, according to the findings which are published in the July issue of the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science.

The results challenge a widespread assumption that acts of generosity and charity are largely driven by feelings of empathy and compassion, researchers said. In the study, the link between compassion and generosity was found to be stronger for those who identified as being non-religious or less religious.

"Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not," said UC Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer, a co-author of the study. "The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."

Compassion is defined in the study as an emotion felt when people see the suffering of others which then motivates them to help, often at a personal risk or cost.

While the study examined the link between religion, compassion and generosity, it did not directly examine the reasons for why highly religious people are less compelled by compassion to help others. However, researchers hypothesize that deeply religious people may be more strongly guided by a sense of moral obligation than their more non-religious counterparts.

"We hypothesized that religion would change how compassion impacts generous behavior," said study lead author Laura Saslow, who conducted the research as a doctoral student at UC Berkeley.

Saslow, who is now a postdoctoral scholar at UC San Francisco, said she was inspired to examine this question after an altruistic, nonreligious friend lamented that he had only donated to earthquake recovery efforts in Haiti after watching an emotionally stirring video of a woman being saved from the rubble, not because of a logical understanding that help was needed.

(more at link)

[PurpleLama]

Pagans are the nicest people I know.

[Calz]

Pagans are the nicest people I know.

In full agreement ... yet it keeps getting me in trouble with my wife as I continue to stay awake past my "bedtime" and hence sleep until last minute time for work missing out on family time ...

*sigh*

I love my family ... and I love you all ...

:juggle:

[Carmody]

Apologies for my over the top communique on circumcision.

I purposely stated it that way so the issue becomes uncomfortable so it can be looked at for what it is. My words may seem harsh, but not only do they have the ring of truth but they are essentially true.

Like a person born with a disability that affects and shifts their entire being...the same is true with circumcision. It is not seen or understood as to the depths of it's affects as it is as deeply intertwined with the given being, as is humanly possible.

It is very difficult to see a mask that is so deeply imbedded that it is part of the given person on all levels. After the ego issue, this is probably the biggest issue, within the given male who has been circumcised.

It is also exceedingly difficult to look at as the chemically derived neural separation from the incident (that came from the incident itself) makes it even harder to reach. think of, for example, the difficulty of reviewing the visual/mental recollection of lets say, your entire family being slaughtered in front of you. That kind of internal level of recall and issue clearing difficulty. And more.

Actually more difficult by a good margin. We are talking about a situation that is below conscious thought by about as big a factor is is possible to imagine.

This kind of situation is launched out of the hind-brain, which is the connective tissue for all developed response (of any kind, in all directions, in and out) and consciousness. And that is a body response emotional animal response/directive/fundamental-design, thus reaching it or realizing it from the conscious mind is exceedingly difficult, at best.

To change directions a bit, I will say that such a thing CAN be found and dealt with. the upside is that it left a mark, a signpost. A break point in the system. By that marker, it can be found.

Changing it's effects in the conscious mind in the 'now' state, means going back and re-living it, over and over again, so one can process it, and try to change the wiring. this can be tricky as the mind retains and uses all of the given extant channels it has developed over the years. realization and understanding can come, but it takes time to repair the damage and it will never be complete, with regard to any form of total erasure. But.. there would be a change found. A positive one.

a positive thing that can be taken away is that they say that the first time a child understands that they are alone in the world, that is when the intellect begins. Thus, in some cases, this circumcision may fire the beginnings of the intellect. However I'm not sure the twists involved can offset any given value perceived.

When you think about it, the given above combined aspect, may have been the whole point. To awaken potential for intellect, along with the emotional drive twists.

[modwiz]

The Dreamscape is Showing Itself Through the Heartbeat of Higher Love...
May It Touch All Around and Abound...from the Here and Now!

Gifted a Wizard-Ware Coat of Nature Last Nite...
a Humble Nod of Gratitude, It Shall be Worn with Heartfelt Harmony : )

I call it WizardWear. That is a name I composed for a line of clothing, if there was the way and will to make such a thing happen.

I like that you and I never uttered the phrase and yet you knew the phonics of it.

[Calz]

Apologies for my over the top communique on circumcision.



You have brought more truth to this forum than anyone ...

why apologize???

[Guest]

Beltane Bealtane in Irish Gaelic


16049


Celebrating the Seasons
Also known as May Eve, May Day, and Walpurgis Night, happens at the beginning of May. It celebrates the height of Spring and the flowering of life. The Goddess manifests as the May Queen and Flora. The God emerges as the May King and Jack in the Green. The danced Maypole represents Their unity, with the pole itself being the God and the ribbons that encompass it, the Goddess. Colors are the Rainbow spectrum. Beltane is a festival of flowers, fertility, sensuality, and delight.
Prepare a May basket by filling it with flowers and goodwill and then give it to someone in need of healing and caring, such as a shut-in or elderly friend. Form a wreath of freshly picked flowers, wear it in your hair, and feel yourself radiating joy and beauty. Dress in bright colors. Dance the Maypole and feel yourself balancing the Divine Female and Male within. On May Eve, bless your garden in the old way by making love with your lover in it. Make a wish as you jump a bonfire or candle flame for good luck. Welcome in the May at dawn with singing and dancing.


Beltane Customs

Sacred Time
Going A-Maying & Bringing in the May -- Merry-making and Nature communion. * Midpoint between Spring Equinox and Summer Solstice. * In Pagan Rome, Floralia, from April 27-May 3 was the festival of the Flower Goddess Flora and the flowering of Springtime. On May 1, offerings were made to Bona Dea (as Mother Earth), the Lares (household guardian spirits), and Maia (Goddess of Increase) from whom May gets its name. * Roman Catholic traditions of crowning statues of Mary with flowers on May 1 have Roman Pagan roots. * Marks the second half of the Celtic Year; one of the four Celtic Fire Festivals. Complement to Samhain, it is a time of divination and communion with Fairy Folk/Nature Spirits. * Pastoral tradition of turning sheep, cows, other livestock out to pasture. * In Pagan Scandinavia, mock battles between Winter and Summer were enacted at this time. * Building on older tradition of this time being a holiday for the masses, in the twentieth century, May Day has been a workers' holiday in many places. * Some say that Mother's Day, in the USA, Mexico, and elsewhere has Pagan roots.

Maypole

Forms include pole, tree, bush, cross; communal or household; permanent or annual. * In Germany, Fir tree was cut on May Eve by young unmarried men, branches removed, decorated, put up in village square, & guarded all night until dance occurred on May Day. * In England, permanent Maypoles were erected on village greens * In some villages, there also were smaller Maypoles in the yards of households. * Maypole ribbondances, with two circles interweaving; around decorated bush/tree, clockwise circle dances.

Flowers & Greenwood

16050 Gathering and exchange of Flowers and Greens on May Eve, pre-dawn May Day, Beltane. * Decorating homes, barns, and other buildings with Green budding branches, including Hawthorn. * Making and wearing of garland wreaths of Flowers and/or Greens. * May Baskets were given or placed secretly on doorsteps to friends, shut-ins, lovers, others. * May Bowl was punch (wine or non-alcoholic) made of Sweet Woodruff blossoms.

Beltane Fires

Traditionally, sacred woods kindled by spark from flint or by friction -- in Irish Gaelic, the Beltane Fire has been called teine eigin (fire from rubbing sticks). * Jump over the Beltane Fire, move through it, or dance clockwise around it. * Livestock was driven through it or between two fires for purification and fertility blessings. * In ancient times Druid priests kindled it at sacred places; later times, Christian priests kindled it in fields near the church after peforming a Christian church service. * Rowan twigs were carried around the fire three times, then hung over hearths to bless homes. * In the past, Beltane community fire purification customs included symbolic sacrifice of effigy knobs on the Beltane Cake (of barley) to the fire, or, in medieval times, mock sacrifice of Beltane Carline (Hag) who received blackened piece of Beltane Cake; Maypoles in Spain were each topped with a male effigy which was later burned. Contemporary Pagans burn sacred wood and dried herbs as offerings in their Beltane fires.

May Waters

Rolling in May Eve dew or washing face in pre-dawn May Day dew for health, luck, beauty. * Getting head and hair wet in Beltane rain to bless the head. * Blessing springs, ponds, other sacred waters with flowers, garlands, ribbons, other offerings. * Collecting sacred waters and scrying in sacred springs, wells, ponds, other waters.
http://www.circlesanctuary.org/pholidays/beltane.htm


Beltane

Find this year's date in the multifaith calendar (http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/tools/calendar/faith.shtml?pagan)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/paganism/holydays/images/spring-summer.jpg Beltane is a Celtic word which means 'fires of Bel' (Bel was a Celtic deity). It is a fire festival that celebrates of the coming of summer and the fertility of the coming year.
Celtic festivals often tied in with the needs of the community. In spring time, at the beginning of the farming calendar, everybody would be hoping for a fruitful year for their families and fields.
Beltane rituals would often include courting: for example, young men and women collecting blossoms in the woods and lighting fires in the evening. These rituals would often lead to matches and marriages, either immediately in the coming summer or autumn.
Other festivities involved fire which was thought to cleanse, purify and increase fertility. Cattle were often passed between two fires and the properties of the flame and the smoke were seen to ensure the fertility of the herd.
Today Pagans believe that at Beltane the God (to whom the Goddess gave birth at the Winter Solstice) achieves the strength and maturity to court and become lover to the Goddess. So although what happens in the fields has lost its significance for most Pagans today, the creation of fertility is still an important issue.
Emma Restall Orr, a modern day Druid, speaks of the 'fertility of our personal creativity'. (Spirits of the Sacred Grove, pub. Thorsons, 1998, pg.110). She is referring to the need for active and creative lives. We need fertile minds for our work, our families and our interests.
Fire is still the most important element of most Beltane celebrations and there are many traditions associated with it. It is seen to have purifying qualities which cleanse and revitalise. People leap over the Beltane fire to bring good fortune, fertility (of mind, body and spirit) and happiness through the coming year.
Although Beltane is the most overtly sexual festival, Pagans rarely use sex in their rituals although rituals often imply sex and fertility. The tradition of dancing round the maypole contains sexual imagary and is still very popular with modern Pagans.
The largest Beltane celebrations in the UK are held in Edinburgh. Fires are lit at night and festivities carry on until dawn. All around the UK fires are lit and private celebrations are held amongst covens and groves (groups of Pagans) to mark the start of the summer.



Edinburgh traditions

Beltane in Edinburgh

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/paganism/holydays/images/whitewoman.jpg White Woman performer © (http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/copyright.shtml#unknown) Every year on 30th April on Calton Hill in Edinburgh thousands of people come together for a huge celebration to mark the coming of summer. The evening begins with a procession to the top of the hill led by people dressed as the May Queen and the Green Man (ancient God and Goddess figures representing fertility and growth).
The May Queen crowns the Green Man, in a ritual similar to that carried out by Wiccan Pagans (who follow a structured set of rituals). The winter ends when the Green Man's winter costume is taken from him and he is revealed in his spring costume. A wild dance takes place and the Green Man and the May Queen are married.
The main element of any Beltane celebration is fire. On Calton Hill torchbearers carry purifying flames and fire arches are used to represent the gateways between the earthly world and the spirit world.
Most of the imagery used in the costumes and rituals comes from the Celts and from Scottish folklore. Other influences come from indeginous people world wide. For instance, the symbol of Ogun, the Yoruba god of iron, can be seen on the faces of some of the performers, and the Geisha traditions of Japan are evident in the dress of the White Women (assistants of the May Queen). Due to the ecclectic nature of the celebrations, Edinburgh's Beltane is not recognised as a religious ritual by many practising Pagans.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/paganism/holydays/images/firearch.jpg Fire arch © (http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/copyright.shtml#unknown)

The blue paint of the Blue Men refers to the woad used by Celtic warriors.
The May Queen's male consort is the Green Man, sometimes called the May King, Jack-in-the-Green, Robin Hood or the woodland faery Puck.
The Red Men represent mischief makers, Pan-like figures who live for the moment without a care in the world or inhibitions.
The White Woman and her handmaidens protect the May Queen and attend to her later in the evening. They are the order and discipline in the face of the Red Men's chaos.
Torch Bearers are an important, trusted group. Dressed from head to foot in black, with blacked out faces, their hair covered, they are protected from fire and other elements. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/paganism/holydays/beltane_1.shtml



Love

Nora

[modwiz]

Apologies for my over the top communique on circumcision.

I purposely stated it that way so the issue becomes uncomfortable so it can be looked at for what it is. My words may seem harsh, but not only do they have the ring of truth but they are essentially true.

Like a person born with a disability that affects and shifts their entire being...the same is true with circumcision. It is not seen or understood as to the depths of it's affects as it is as deeply intertwined with the given being, as is humanly possible.

It is very difficult to see a mask that is so deeply imbedded that is is part of the given person on all levels. After the ego issue, this is probably the biggest issue, within the given male who has been circumcised.

It is also exceedingly difficult to look at as the chemically derived neural separation from the incident (that came from the incident itself) makes it even harder to reach. think of, for example, the difficulty of reviewing the visual/mental recollection of lets say, your entire family being slaughtered in front of you. That kind of internal level of recall and issue clearing difficulty. And more.

Actually more difficult by a good margin. We are talking about a situation that is below conscious thought by about as big a factor is is possible to imagine.

This kind of situation is launched out of the hind-brain, which is the connective tissue for all developed response (of any kind, in all directions, in and out) and consciousness. And that is a body response emotional animal response/directive/fundamental-design, thus reaching it or realizing it from the conscious mind is exceedingly difficult, at best.

Please, Carmody, do not circumcise your statements.

[ulli]

Pagans are the nicest people I know.

In full agreement ... yet it keeps getting me in trouble with my wife as I continue to stay awake past my "bedtime" and hence sleep until last minute time for work missing out on family time ...

*sigh*
P
I love my family ... and I love you all ...

:juggle:


We'll have to ask eaglespirit to tone down his love love love :) :) :) cry.
If Calz picks up any more balls they will all end up on the floor.

[ulli]

Polarizing study:

Highly religious people are less motivated by compassion than are non-believers

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-04-highly-religious-people-compassion-non-believers.html#firstCmt

"Love thy neighbor" is preached from many a pulpit. But new research from the University of California, Berkeley, suggests that the highly religious are less motivated by compassion when helping a stranger than are atheists, agnostics and less religious people.

In three experiments, social scientists found that compassion consistently drove less religious people to be more generous. For highly religious people, however, compassion was largely unrelated to how generous they were, according to the findings which are published in the July issue of the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science.

The results challenge a widespread assumption that acts of generosity and charity are largely driven by feelings of empathy and compassion, researchers said. In the study, the link between compassion and generosity was found to be stronger for those who identified as being non-religious or less religious.

"Overall, we find that for less religious people, the strength of their emotional connection to another person is critical to whether they will help that person or not," said UC Berkeley social psychologist Robb Willer, a co-author of the study. "The more religious, on the other hand, may ground their generosity less in emotion, and more in other factors such as doctrine, a communal identity, or reputational concerns."

Compassion is defined in the study as an emotion felt when people see the suffering of others which then motivates them to help, often at a personal risk or cost.

While the study examined the link between religion, compassion and generosity, it did not directly examine the reasons for why highly religious people are less compelled by compassion to help others. However, researchers hypothesize that deeply religious people may be more strongly guided by a sense of moral obligation than their more non-religious counterparts.

"We hypothesized that religion would change how compassion impacts generous behavior," said study lead author Laura Saslow, who conducted the research as a doctoral student at UC Berkeley.

Saslow, who is now a postdoctoral scholar at UC San Francisco, said she was inspired to examine this question after an altruistic, nonreligious friend lamented that he had only donated to earthquake recovery efforts in Haiti after watching an emotionally stirring video of a woman being saved from the rubble, not because of a logical understanding that help was needed.

(more at link)

This is quite thought provoking.
Just like circumcision messes with deep levels of a person's being so does religious instruction.
And I doubt if children who are raised by atheist parents or cultures can really escape feeling obligated by some code of ethics.

On the other hand, the independent exploration of one's feeling world might still reveal shocking surprises such as being helpful to undeserving vampirical deceiver types and at other times ignoring situations which genuinely warrant an altruistic response.

And for someone like me who is now living in a developing country it is easy to become overwhelmed by the neediness of one's environment and end up totally confused, with no clue where to begin.
As an obvious foreigner I am a target for sob stories the moment I show my face in public.
Here being blonde spells money and free rides.

[araucaria]

Fascinating interview - KC with remote viewer Courtney Brown

5n5CccCbvkY

Looks like he will be coming back again,
so much more to talk about

Thank you so much for this video.

It sounded very like Brian O'Leary with... Kerry :)

[ulli]

One more thing about the developing world:
when looking at it like this
I find it is best left undeveloped.
I took this picture on Sunday when we went for a drive and had lunch by the side of this lake in a hotel called Casa Turire.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16056&thumb=1&d=1335904849

[ulli]

Another sky picture, same day, an hour earlier, different exposure

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16057&thumb=1&d=1335906327

[dan33]

Wow! Nora. I'll print the BELTAINE post.

Thanks!

[dan33]

The Dreamscape is Showing Itself Through the Heartbeat of Higher Love...
May It Touch All Around and Abound...from the Here and Now!

Gifted a Wizard-Ware Coat of Nature Last Nite...
a Humble Nod of Gratitude, It Shall be Worn with Heartfelt Harmony : )

I always read Eaglespirit's messages as a child watching cloud's shapes.

One cloud, one letter (ha, ha..forget about it)

[dan33]

That website is a total spoof. It is a fictional church in a fictional town. It's funny as hell (pun intended) for a fully recovered fundamentalist christian, IMO.

When I saw the picture of the car I knew it had to be a spoof.
Thanks for clarifying. Will sleep better now.

PURPLELAMA drives a Bugatti in an initiation ceremony.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSFX9vrwJf8&list=HL1335905631&feature=mh_lolz

[Guest]

The Dreamscape is Showing Itself Through the Heartbeat of Higher Love...
May It Touch All Around and Abound...from the Here and Now!

Gifted a Wizard-Ware Coat of Nature Last Nite...
a Humble Nod of Gratitude, It Shall be Worn with Heartfelt Harmony : )

I always read Eaglespirit's messages as a child watching cloud's shapes.

One cloud, one letter (ha, ha..forget about it)

Eaglespirit always comes swooping in at the right moments.


Love

Nora

[astrid]

I can vouch for that study
being the preachers daughter I
can reel off many examples of this in action.
One of the most traumatic and confusing for me
was when one of my brothers friends was thrown
out of home . He was at our house with my brother
and at the time I was making lunch an omelette
This kid , Phil was watching me he was starving hadn't
eaten in days . So I asked him if he wanted me to make
him one and of course he agreed . Half way through the
process my father walked into the kitchen and Phil
was thrown out the front door and the omelette pan and all
was thrown out he back door . I was sent to my room.

This event sticks in my head as soon after I left home
myself in total disgust I could no longer call these ppl
my family and that my home . Truth be known I had
already long " divorced" them but this was the final
straw . This is why the road back to spirit was such a
hard one as tangled up in my neuro pathways with the
concepts of god was always some degree of trauma,
confusion and hypocrisy .
They were so worried about keeping up appearances
that they totally forgot any core teachings of the Christ
Basically for my father the church was a place he could
hide behind and express his out of control ego .
And in the church there are many many justifications
for wheeding control and abusing power,
and he found and used most of them .

[ulli]

I can vouch for that study
being the preachers daughter I
can reel off many examples of this in action.
One of the most traumatic and confusing for me
was when one of my brothers friends was thrown
out of home . He was at our house with my brother
and at the time I was making lunch an omelette
This kid , Phil was watching me he was starving hadn't
eaten in days . So I asked him if he wanted me to make
him one and of course he agreed . Half way through the
process my father walked into the kitchen and Phil
was thrown out the front door and the omelette pan and all
was thrown out he back door . I was sent to my room.

This event sticks in my head as soon after I left home
myself in total disgust I could no longer call these ppl
my family and that my home . Truth be known I had
already long " divorced" them but this was the final
straw . This is why the road back to spirit was such a
hard one as tangled up in my neuro pathways with the
concepts of god was always some degree of trauma,
confusion and hypocrisy .
They were so worried about keeping up appearances
that they totally forgot any core teachings of the Christ
Basically for my father the church was a place he could
hide behind and express his out of control ego .
And in the church there are many many justifications
for wheeding control and abusing power,
and he found and used most of them .

So you were doing the Christian thing yet he saw a different situation...
possibly he perceived his daughter flirting with some neighborhood kid under his roof without his permission.
Seems to me that his over-reaction was a sign of a sense of powerlessness which made him grasp for authority and control.

My father once had a similar overreaction when I was 18...and had let our dog off the chain.
Our dog was always running around free and I couldn't understand why he was suddenly chained.
No one had told me that he had developed a bad hunting habit, and was going after some neighbor's chickens and killing them.
As soon as I freed him he was off, straight up the hill to where those neighbors lived.
I knew then I was in trouble.
When I got back my father had torn up every single Beatle poster I had on the walls of my room.
I was shocked, but probably not as shocked as he was once I left for London a few weeks later...arranged by my mother.
I never returned to Germany other than brief visits. Every time I did I got sick,
and once in 1994 even had a life-threatening appendicitis and ended up in hospital.
Have you ever had a chance to remind him of that incident?

I never did have a chance to address the issue, although I saw my father a few more times.
Each time I saw him he had become more convinced that there was a major conspiracy by the US to destroy the classical German heritage.
He died in 1980, around the time I first saw the 11:11 on clocks, and soon after I started to get informed about ET and cover-up.
Hmm....

[MariaDine]

Insomnia makes me find pearls of wisdom ...lol;):rolleyes::cool:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11wsj5tWuUM&feature=channel&list=UL

[eaglespirit]

The Dreamscape is Showing Itself Through the Heartbeat of Higher Love...
May It Touch All Around and Abound...from the Here and Now!

Gifted a Wizard-Ware Coat of Nature Last Nite...
a Humble Nod of Gratitude, It Shall be Worn with Heartfelt Harmony : )

I call it WizardWear. That is a name I composed for a line of clothing, if there was the way and will to make such a thing happen.

I like that you and I never uttered the phrase and yet you knew the phonics of it.

Them Thar Higher-Knowing Channels are interesting, aren't they Modwiz and All? : )
Methinks they Be flowing and connecting stronger each day now, now, now!!!

[MariaDine]

ANOTHER VIEW ...ON 2012 ! ....another pearl of wisdom to take in the heart...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJqLEcgdsk&feature=autoplay&list=ULUUElS9nMfYo&playnext=2


Uploaded by invisiblechildreninc on Mar 5, 2012

KONY 2012 is a film and campaign by Invisible Children that aims to make Joseph Kony famous, not to celebrate him, but to raise support for his arrest and set a precedent for international justice.

HOW TO HELP:
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DIRECTOR: Jason Russell LEAD EDITOR: Kathryn Lang EDITORS: Kevin Trout, Jay Salbert, Jesse Eslinger LEAD ANIMATOR: Chad Clendinen ANIMATOR: Jesse Eslinger 3-D MODELING: Victor Soto VISUAL EFFECTS: Chris Hop WRITERS: Jason Russell, Jedidiah Jenkins, Kathryn Lang, Danica Russell, Ben Keesey, Azy Groth PRODUCERS: Kimmy Vandivort, Heather Longerbeam, Chad Clendinen, Noelle Jouglet ORIGINAL SCORES: Joel P. West SOUND MIX: Stephen Grubbs, Mark Friedgen, Smart Post Sound COLOR: Damian Pelphrey, Company 3 CINEMATOGRAPHY: Jason Russell, Bobby Bailey, Laren Poole, Gavin Kelly, Chad Clendinen, Kevin Trout, Jay Salbert, Shannon Lynch PRODUCTION ASSISTANT: Jaime Landsverk LEAD DESIGNER: Tyler Fordham DESIGNERS: Chadwick Gantes, Stephen Witmer

[ulli]

ANOTHER VIEW ...ON 2012 ! ....another pearl of wisdom to take in the heart...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJqLEcgdsk&feature=autoplay&list=ULUUElS9nMfYo&playnext=2


Uploaded by invisiblechildreninc on Mar 5, 2012

KONY 2012 is a film and campaign by Invisible Children that aims to make Joseph Kony famous, not to celebrate him, but to raise support for his arrest and set a precedent for international justice.

HOW TO HELP:
Join TRI or Donate to Invisible Children: http://bit.ly/yp5Ffv
Purchase KONY 2012 products: http://invisiblechildrenstore.myshopify.com/
Sign the Pledge: http://www.causes.com/causes/227-invisible-children



FOR MEDIA INQUIRES ONLY: Monica Vigo pr@invisiblechildren.com

DIRECTOR: Jason Russell LEAD EDITOR: Kathryn Lang EDITORS: Kevin Trout, Jay Salbert, Jesse Eslinger LEAD ANIMATOR: Chad Clendinen ANIMATOR: Jesse Eslinger 3-D MODELING: Victor Soto VISUAL EFFECTS: Chris Hop WRITERS: Jason Russell, Jedidiah Jenkins, Kathryn Lang, Danica Russell, Ben Keesey, Azy Groth PRODUCERS: Kimmy Vandivort, Heather Longerbeam, Chad Clendinen, Noelle Jouglet ORIGINAL SCORES: Joel P. West SOUND MIX: Stephen Grubbs, Mark Friedgen, Smart Post Sound COLOR: Damian Pelphrey, Company 3 CINEMATOGRAPHY: Jason Russell, Bobby Bailey, Laren Poole, Gavin Kelly, Chad Clendinen, Kevin Trout, Jay Salbert, Shannon Lynch PRODUCTION ASSISTANT: Jaime Landsverk LEAD DESIGNER: Tyler Fordham DESIGNERS: Chadwick Gantes, Stephen Witmer

Thanks Maria.
But perhaps you need to see this movie as well to get a deeper idea of the agenda behind it all.
Not everything is what it seems to be.
Most people figured in no time that this movie was a fake, and the director went nuts after realizing he had failed.
I think he is still hospitalized after running naked through the streets of San Diego.


JSSVEQp2DSU

[astrid]

It's amazing how one phone call can suddenly turn your
peaceful world upside down.

Requesting healing thoughts of calm so i can work out
how to process what has just happened,
right now I'm shaking all over.

Thanks to all

[Carmody]

Insomnia makes me find pearls of wisdom ...lol;):rolleyes::cool:

+90% of the time, I cannot get to sleep until I've had a new thought, a new understanding.

Ok. I'll admit the real figure. Near 100% of the time, not 90%.


Driven.

[tenacity1]

They were so worried about keeping up appearances
that they totally forgot any core teachings of the Christ
Basically for my father the church was a place he could
hide behind and express his out of control ego .
And in the church there are many many justifications
for wheeding control and abusing power,
and he found and used most of them .

Astrid.. your post gave me the perfect opening to make my first post. Like you I grew up in a family that did not practice what they preached. Very early on, I began to feel that I was different than they were. I could not embrace their bigotry nor could I see "God" as this entity one put in a box.
Left home very early and found my path through years of wandering. Now, at 55, I feel that we do pick our families for the lessons they bring us. Took me many years to get here. the point is the journey and what learning is to be gained, not an destination. I feel blessed to have been invited here and hope you will all be patient with me, I am not very techno aware. Nor am I feeling quite able to truly jump in and post a great deal yet till I get my "Avalon legs" .I prefer the garden to technology and I am outside most of the day:wave: this time of year.. Look forward to reading more before I post again. I am posting from 2, 500 up a mtn , it's a beautiful half moon which makes the front garden glow,It's late..I think I hear my pillow call. Peace be with you all

[Guest]

It's amazing how one phone call can suddenly turn your
peaceful world upside down.

Requesting healing thoughts of calm so i can work out
how to process what has just happened,
right now I'm shaking all over.

Thanks to all

Prayers of Love to you Astrid.


Love

Nora

[ulli]

They were so worried about keeping up appearances
that they totally forgot any core teachings of the Christ
Basically for my father the church was a place he could
hide behind and express his out of control ego .
And in the church there are many many justifications
for wheeding control and abusing power,
and he found and used most of them .

Astrid.. your post gave me the perfect opening to make my first post. Like you I grew up in a family that did not practice what they preached. Very early on, I began to feel that I was different than they were. I could not embrace their bigotry nor could I see "God" as this entity one put in a box.
Left home very early and found my path through years of wandering. Now, at 55, I feel that we do pick our families for the lessons they bring us. Took me many years to get here. the point is the journey and what learning is to be gained, not an destination. I feel blessed to have been invited here and hope you will all be patient with me, I am not very techno aware. Nor am I feeling quite able to truly jump in and post a great deal yet till I get my "Avalon legs" .I prefer the garden to technology and I am outside most of the day:wave: this time of year.. Look forward to reading more before I post again. I am posting from 2, 500 up a mtn , it's a beautiful half moon which makes the front garden glow,It's late..I think I hear my pillow call. Peace be with you all


Welcome to the Here and Now Village, Tenacity.
Your name will inspire us, I can feel it already.

[tenacity1]

Thank you Ulli. Now if I can just find my way back to that page where Bill was speaking of Charles/Atticus etc..*L* Nice to be here amongst folks who value open minded civil discourse



Astrid I've no idea what had you rattled because I am still reading threads. However, I just want to say.. good energy and best wishes to you and may it resolve well for you.

[ulli]

When I get anxious I go to an online Bahai site and just randomly plunge in to read Baha'u'llah's writings.
Just went to this page and found much that was comforting:

http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/GWB/gwb-14.html

Methinks that thou hast halted and movest not upon My Tablet.
Could the brightness of the Divine Countenance have bewildered thee,
or the idle talk of the froward filled thee with grief and paralyzed thy movement?
Take heed lest anything deter thee from extolling the greatness of this Day—
the Day whereon the Finger of majesty and power hath opened the seal of the Wine of Reunion,
and called all who are in the heavens and all who are on the earth.

Preferrest thou to tarry when the breeze announcing the Day of God hath already breathed over thee,
or art thou of them that are shut out as by a veil from Him?
No veil whatever have I allowed, O Lord of all names and Creator of the heavens,
to shut me from the recognition of the glories of Thy Day—
the Day which is the lamp of guidance unto the whole world,
and the sign of the Ancient of Days unto all them that dwell therein.
My silence is by reason of the veils that have blinded Thy creatures’ eyes to Thee,
and my muteness is because of the impediments that have hindered Thy people from recognizing Thy truth.

[ThePythonicCow]

duplicate is below...struggling here, fixing quotes. Determined not to disturb the mods.

Don't worry too much about quote formatting upsetting the mods :).

The forum software does not make it easy to format Quoted material in the optimum way and I routinely fix Quote formatting as I read the forum, almost without conscious effort. There was even one time where some member had directly issued a nasty insult to me, by name, and I had fixed the Quote formatting, but not noticed or moderated the insult. This confused the other mods, who figured I must have read the insult (they could see that I edited it) and chosen not to act for some obscure reason. I had not read it .. just improved its formatting. A typical Quote formatting fix takes me about 12 to 18 seconds.

:) :cow: :)

[ulli]

duplicate is below...struggling here, fixing quotes. Determined not to disturb the mods.

Don't worry too much about quote formatting upsetting the mods :).

The forum software does not make it easy to format Quoted material in the optimum way and I routinely fix Quote formatting as I read the forum, almost without conscious effort. There was even one time where some member had directly issued a nasty insult to me, by name, and I had fixed the Quote formatting, but not noticed or moderated the insult. This confused the other mods, who figured I must have read the insult (they could see that I edited it) and chosen not to act for some obscure reason. I had not read it .. just improved its formatting. A typical Quote formatting fix takes me about 12 to 18 seconds.

:) :cow: :)

Maybe the reason not to act was not quite as obscure as you make it seem, Paul.
I understand cows have leathery skin.

[ulli]

Thank you Ulli. Now if I can just find my way back to that page where Bill was speaking of Charles/Atticus etc..*L*
Nice to be here amongst folks who value open minded civil discourse



The Charles/Atticus saga seems aeons ago, and perhaps is not worth foregoing the power that the Here and Now has to offer.
Just a suggestion.
It did seem pretty real at the time, though.

[markoid]

It's amazing how one phone call can suddenly turn your
peaceful world upside down.

Requesting healing thoughts of calm so i can work out
how to process what has just happened,
right now I'm shaking all over.

Thanks to all
Done dear Astrid.. hope it helped. 'Saw' Louis at the end, give him a big old hug from me.

Love to everyone in the village from the invisible man :)

[meeradas]

Max resilience to Astrid from here.

[modwiz]

I want to share what is my belief to be very special photos. I found two flowers growing in a Juniper tree. Although usually called Red Cedar, it is not a true Cedar belonging in the Juniperus genus instead of the Cedrus genus for true cedars. With the technical silliness out of the way let me show you. What appears to be a rising Moon is one of the pics, is just that.

Here is how they looked as I found them.
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Here are two pics of the one on the left:
1606116062

These are pics of the one on the right, with the Moon in one of them:
1606416063

Despite there being many trees of this variety on the property I could find no other flowers. I have never seen this kind of flower on a Red Cedar before. It is very special, if only for me.

Click on them for enhanced detail.

[Calz]

From Stewie "the morph" ...

______________


Spiritual Healing—Your Second Chance
Posted on May 1, 2012 by Stuart Wilde


I’ve learned a lot about spiritual healing, it’s a radiant blue and purple light that goes beyond disease and emotions, and people’s karma. It’s bigger than karma because it’s a form of forgiveness.

16066
Bolts of the Celestial Light


It is as if the digital-fractal hard drive of your soul is suddenly re-set, no matter what has gone before. Like as if, your debts and credit cards are suddenly wiped to zero.

Over the years when I saw the light and the celestial beings, I prayed for a second chance for all of us humans. I was shown three things:


1) You have to make an act of contrition and be genuinely sorry for your sins and previous darkness. You have to look at all that darkness and be fully aware of your part in it. You have to own it not deny it.

2) You have to be open to receive the light and to embrace a new softer future.

3) You have to replace any current feelings of spite, hatred, anger, self-importance, ego-trips and emotional upsets and dishonesty with love—breath love at the humans each and every day.


If you embrace these ideas the second chance will be granted. Stuart Wilde

http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/05/spiritual-healing-your-second-chance/

[markoid]

From Stewie "the morph" ...

______________


Spiritual Healing—Your Second Chance
Posted on May 1, 2012 by Stuart Wilde


I’ve learned a lot about spiritual healing, it’s a radiant blue and purple light that goes beyond disease and emotions, and people’s karma. It’s bigger than karma because it’s a form of forgiveness.

16066
Bolts of the Celestial Light


It is as if the digital-fractal hard drive of your soul is suddenly re-set, no matter what has gone before. Like as if, your debts and credit cards are suddenly wiped to zero.

Over the years when I saw the light and the celestial beings, I prayed for a second chance for all of us humans. I was shown three things:


1) You have to make an act of contrition and be genuinely sorry for your sins and previous darkness. You have to look at all that darkness and be fully aware of your part in it. You have to own it not deny it.

2) You have to be open to receive the light and to embrace a new softer future.

3) You have to replace any current feelings of spite, hatred, anger, self-importance, ego-trips and emotional upsets and dishonesty with love—breath love at the humans each and every day.


If you embrace these ideas the second chance will be granted. Stuart Wilde

http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/05/spiritual-healing-your-second-chance/

I don't always resonate with Stewart's words, but this landed and nested beautifully inside... thanks Calz.

[meeradas]

I have never seen this kind of flower on a Red Cedar before.

I have never seen this kind of flower anywhere.

Even found the term 'flower' curious, looking at these things.

Didn't they feel a little weird to you, too?

[modwiz]

I have never seen this kind of flower on a Red Cedar before.

I have never seen this kind of flower anywhere.

Even found the term 'flower' curious, looking at these things.

Didn't they feel a little weird to you, too?

Yes they did. Perhaps I should 'clip' one of them.

What is your hunch about them?

[pickle]

I want to share what is my belief to be very special photos. I found two flowers growing in a Juniper tree. Although usually called Red Cedar, it is not a true Cedar belonging in the Juniperus genus instead of the Cedrus genus for true cedars. With the technical silliness out of the way let me show you. What appears to be a rising Moon is one of the pics, is just that.....................

Thanks for the great pics Modwiz, I thought of how fungus grows out of some trees so did a piccy search for it, looks like it might be this............ found at http://www.gpnc.org/eastern.htm (about half way down the page, with picture similar to yours).

"Often you will find a hard brown growth on the branches that can vary in size from a grape to a walnut. This is a fungus called the Cedar-Apple Rust. [Gymnosporangium juniperi-virginianae] In spring, when the first warm rains fall, these structures sprout orange spaghetti-like fingers as they prepare to release their spores. The spores float through the air until (if they are very lucky) they land on an apple tree, where they make orange spots on the leaves and fruits. Orchard growers don't appreciate this much, but it ordinarily does little harm to the apple trees."

Hope that helps, watch your apples ;-)


Peace,

Pickle

[ViralSpiral]

Wow, how oddly beautiful.
Found this (http://blog.sciencemusings.com/2007/05/vital-dust.html) whilst looking up "cedar fruit"

'the tentacled fruiting bodies of cedar apple rust, caused by the fungus Gymnosporangium jumiperi-virginianae'

[ViralSpiral]

Boooooo to yellow curved froo-its ;):p:cool::hug:


Anyhoot, another odd-ism.
Three clocks have stopped.
My dads alarm, my moms car clock and her Hattich quartz clock.
Somewhere I documented my anomaly with time. Association is with some-one leaving earth plane.

Looking forward to hearing Tom's pele report .....

[modwiz]

I want to share what is my belief to be very special photos. I found two flowers growing in a Juniper tree. Although usually called Red Cedar, it is not a true Cedar belonging in the Juniperus genus instead of the Cedrus genus for true cedars. With the technical silliness out of the way let me show you. What appears to be a rising Moon is one of the pics, is just that.....................

Thanks for the great pics Modwiz, I thought of how fungus grows out of some trees so did a piccy search for it, looks like it might be this............ found at http://www.gpnc.org/eastern.htm (about half way down the page, with picture similar to yours).

"Often you will find a hard brown growth on the branches that can vary in size from a grape to a walnut. This is a fungus called the Cedar-Apple Rust. [Gymnosporangium juniperi-virginianae] In spring, when the first warm rains fall, these structures sprout orange spaghetti-like fingers as they prepare to release their spores. The spores float through the air until (if they are very lucky) they land on an apple tree, where they make orange spots on the leaves and fruits. Orchard growers don't appreciate this much, but it ordinarily does little harm to the apple trees."

Hope that helps, watch your apples ;-)


Peace,

Pickle

Thank you much. I think we have an identification.

You too, VS.

[astrid]

Ok here's the deal,
this morning i was informed that my landlords are
moving back and i have to move out.

I'm sorry for the earlier dramatics, but moving is a pretty big deal for me.
i have only just now settled after the last shift over a year ago.
I have 60 days, and i also have a study trip planned booked and paid for during
this time. And I'm still determined to go.

I am slowly piecing myself back together and seeing how this will turn out for the best,
i just have to remind myself that at times like this, we do have an advantage, well other times too.
Having faith and the understanding that all is exactly perfect, goes along way.

Tonight i started the process my making sure my bins that are due to go out tonight are
full with anything i can find that is no longer needed or useful to me.
I need to find a house and sign a lease within the next three weeks, then i will move
after i come back from my trip. So much change of late its making me dizzy.
I guess i had better get used to it being the new normal

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and blessings, its very much appreciated

[pickle]

Here and now... crying with laughter... this is just doing the rounds in the office, just beautiful!:
Here's Linky if my embed doesn't ;-) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9239257/Couple-together-for-72-years-give-grandson-five-tips-to-surviving-marriage.html

jlJgFiZapj4


I've never seen everyone here laughing at the same time, how refreshing!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Totally feel for you Astrid. Wishing you luck, strength and clarity.

Calz, Neo Citron is a type of cold medicine.

Ulli, did some math on that vid about anti-Kony2012. He only lists half the money. Very rough figuring (calculator battery dead, had to do it long hand) but about 4.5 million unaccounted for.

Modwiz, I've seen that growth on cedars before. I thought they were its flowers....

Hi Tenacity.

[Samsara]

Here and now... crying with laughter... this is just doing the rounds in the office, just beautiful!:
Here's Linky if my embed doesn't ;-) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9239257/Couple-together-for-72-years-give-grandson-five-tips-to-surviving-marriage.html

jlJgFiZapj4


I've never seen everyone here laughing at the same time, how refreshing!

I love this ! 72 years together ?!? It always amazes me when I hear of a couple being together for that long.

@ Astrid - may you find the perfect house and your move be as smooth as can be.

Peace be with you All.

[astrid]

Starting to see the higher purpose in this shock
move and now also the previous hints of it coming
but I didn't twig

More dropping attachments - I was only saying this
morning now happy I was here and how much I loved
this house but getting too comfortable is.not exactly
growth conjusive . At this point I have to keep
moving and opening up to new possibilities and ideas
Nothing like moving house to remove your safety nets

[Carmody]

I want to share what is my belief to be very special photos. I found two flowers growing in a Juniper tree. Although usually called Red Cedar, it is not a true Cedar belonging in the Juniperus genus instead of the Cedrus genus for true cedars. With the technical silliness out of the way let me show you. What appears to be a rising Moon is one of the pics, is just that.

Here is how they looked as I found them.
16065

Here are two pics of the one on the left:
1606116062

These are pics of the one on the right, with the Moon in one of them:
1606416063

Despite there being many trees of this variety on the property I could find no other flowers. I have never seen this kind of flower on a Red Cedar before. It is very special, if only for me.

Click on them for enhanced detail.

There is something very interesting bout that particular type of flower, or bloom. it is a transplant that is literally a separate flower or rootless plant that grows on other plants, in this case..trees. My vague recollection of association... is either medicinal or alchemical.

It has to do with electrostatic charge or energy levels being very high. (ridiculously high) Ie, don't simply ever touch them.... if looking to harvest them.

There is a very specific handling technique in the gathering and preparation/use. That handling techniques are required to not damage their 'value' or operational parameters, regarding what you are trying to get from the interaction.

Point is, that you are looking at an organism that literally goes to the point in nature where the energy levels are the highest, in order for the given plant to begin it's growth, and mature. It is functioning in the highest energy level natural environment that it can, and thus it's 'organized' level of vibration will be very high.

This is the only recollection component of this interesting plant/organism that I have, at this moment, but it might be enough to find the trail of the thing.

Another bit coming back, is that this might be the highest level of 'alchemical' goodness that is possible, outside of finished alchemical preparations. My thinking is that I vaguely remember, last year, after reading about them..to be on the look out for them...but of course...it faded.

[mojo]

Interest in nature and protecting/preserving/conserving has always been important on the forum, even though we also talk about many other subjects. When do humans loose the disconnect and turn a blind eye and pollute/ destroy our beautiful planet? I have been conditioned like many others but am learning... you can teach an old dog new tricks.

[tenacity1]

Ulli.. everyone has the right to look into things as they see fit. I saw the the "Charles" video awhile back . While I immediately thought he was "Cointel Pro" and a pawn in a game, many of the things he said validated my intuition. Also, as background it was worth reading some of it. Plus, when you're doing the insomnia boogie, reading is one sure way to make the eyelids droop.



It's a strange spring when the weather has predicted 87 degrees in Aville, NC..up here on the mtn it won't get that hot. We've got elevation and breezes.. are there any other gardeners here? My first clue that things had gone pear shaped on the planet was watching our mammal population on our firmer place dwindle.

[ulli]

Ulli.. everyone has the right to look into things as they see fit. I saw the the "Charles" video awhile back . While I immediately thought he was "Cointel Pro" and a pawn in a game, many of the things he said validated my intuition. Also, as background it was worth reading some of it. Plus, when you're doing the insomnia boogie, reading is one sure way to make the eyelids droop.



It's a strange spring when the weather has predicted 87 degrees in Aville, NC..up here on the mtn it won't get that hot. We've got elevation and breezes.. are there any other gardeners here? My first clue that things had gone pear shaped on the planet was watching our mammal population on our firmer place dwindle.

Didn't mean it like that...I say things in jest sometimes.
There are still many divided opinions here about Charles, who's real name is Steve.
It is a huge story and he affected many lives, which was his intention.
He is an action man, and when spiritual awakening happens
some of the habits of wanting to interfere with others lives need to be put on hold.
There is a fine line between doing something to change the world for the better and being a predator.
Being a predator will only add to the burden of Karma.

My here and now...total silence except for the odd birdie chirping.
Even the river has gone quiet as there has been little rain.
My energy is still low. This connects to what I just wrote. Energy levels always go up when in action mode...
question is where to start.
Maybe I could do some weeding in my garden, speaking of gardening.
I also wish I could teleport to Australia and help Astrid with her house hunting.

Mars still in Virgo, right on my Saturn right now. Feels like a ton of wet blankets. Mars in Virgo requires energy (Mars)
spent on cleaning, putting order, attending to detail, healing- all of which are Virgo activities.

[Guest]

Today is a garden day -have to make sure the yard is fire proof. Which means no tall grasses within 300 ft. of any structures.
Lucky me the weather is perfect for yard work and being outside.
A sea mist is layering the valley which provides some protection from the sun and a soothing atmosphere.
It smells so good -makes me want to go to the ocean and go surfing or paddle boarding.....

One of my rose bushes is having a hard time. I did the same things with it as I did all of the other roses.
Couldn't understand why this one always looked like it was half alive. Then today while giving it a little "juice"
and water the ground around part of it started to sink and a hole opened up. Mole hole. This means I will need
to transplant it into a large pot and hopefully this will save it.

Astrid, I'm sure you will find the perfect place for you & Louis and it will all come together for you in a positive way.
Wishing everything goes smoothly for you.


Love,

Nora

[tenacity1]

ULLI tis cool text doesn't have vocal intonation and the body language one has in face to face.. I felt he was predator from day one.. I didn't like him and saw him as a huge manipulator of good people. That said I do think some of his statement of plans was true but for me his motivations stunk from the get go.. I should explain.. I became very intuitive after I broke my back.. before that I was big time physical.. camping etc ..if it was outdoor I did it. Breaking my back forced me to go within and learn to trust my gut above all else.

Sorry to hear your river needs rain.. we in western NC have had much of late

[Carmody]

Mars still in Virgo, right on my Saturn right now. Feels like a ton of wet blankets. Mars in Virgo requires energy (Mars)
spent on cleaning, putting order, attending to detail, healing- all of which are Virgo activities.


(Carmody goes and looks at skies and transits) No wonder I'm getting such a powerful itch. The firehose is turning on again.

made me think of marainne's song 'what's the hurry?', from broken english, with the line 'here it comes again'.

What's the worry, what's the hurry,
Do you hear me, do you fear me ?
You've got the message, you read the story,
You want the power, you need the glory.

Clocks break, time goes by,
Hot sake along the fly,
She laughs on a spin,
He laughs, turns you in.

What's the panic, where's the static,
Do you see me, could you meet me ?
I heard the rumour, you've got my number,
But now I see you run for cover.

So you thought you had it made,
Ain't it easy to be afraid,
Feel the pressure, take the bait,
Here it comes again.

Clock breaks, time goes by,
Hot sake along the fly,
She laughs on a spin,
He laughs, turns you in.

(Can't be found on yootoob, such a shame)

[Carmody]

I'm also thinking about going invisible as some forum member have, regarding the ability of others to see if I am on line or not or in any given thread.

[PurpleLama]

I went back into ninja stealth mode, again, a few weeks back.

[Lisab]

Here and now getting ready for my trip to London tomorrow. Catching the 12noon train, one change. Pray I dont get lost please lol xxx!!

Astrid Im holding space for you. Looks like Spirit's got plans for you but I know you know that and will cope well.

The forums been hard for me the last couple of days. I'l share again. New earth is a state of mind, I reckon.

Looking forward to meeting up with fellow Avs. I will be letting them know, how much Ive grown since joining Avalon, but especially so in the Village (and that we're NOT a clique!). Believe it or not, Lisa's quite chatty in the flesh!!! Love you all so much x

[ulli]

Mars still in Virgo, right on my Saturn right now. Feels like a ton of wet blankets. Mars in Virgo requires energy (Mars)
spent on cleaning, putting order, attending to detail, healing- all of which are Virgo activities.


(Carmody goes and looks at skies and transits) No wonder I'm getting such a powerful itch. The firehose is turning on again.

made me think of marainne's song 'what's the hurry?', from broken english, with the line 'here it comes again'.

What's the worry, what's the hurry,
Do you hear me, do you fear me ?
You've got the message, you read the story,
You want the power, you need the glory.

Clocks break, time goes by,
Hot sake along the fly,
She laughs on a spin,
He laughs, turns you in.

What's the panic, where's the static,
Do you see me, could you meet me ?
I heard the rumour, you've got my number,
But now I see you run for cover.

So you thought you had it made,
Ain't it easy to be afraid,
Feel the pressure, take the bait,
Here it comes again.

Clock breaks, time goes by,
Hot sake along the fly,
She laughs on a spin,
He laughs, turns you in.

(Can't be found on yootoob, such a shame)

Met Marianne Faithful twice. The first time was in 1968. I was at the country house of Keith Richard. Marianne was the only person who was kind to me, so we chatted a bit on the sofa.
I was terribly young and shy beyond belief. Had been instructed not to open my mouth before I got there. That was not easy, but it was feared I might act uncool around the two big stones Keith and Mick and embarrass everyone.
The second time was in 1977....by this time I had come up in the world. Was about to open my first retail shop in London and Chelita my neighbour had invited me over. Marianne was there, and both were high on drugs, stuff that I wouldn't touch even when it was offered for free. Chelita was hoping I would give her a job. This was when both of them were hitting rock bottom. Marianne actually lived in the street for a couple of years. She was so out of it her eyeballs had roled out of sight, only leaving the white. I let myself out the door. Not my scene. Chelita didn't forgive me for not giving her a chance.
I was happy years later when I was already living in Costa Rica to see Marianne was all cleaned up and was performing again.
She had lots of depth.

[Lisab]

I love a good rock autobiography and Marianne's is up there with my faves. Love Broken English so much. Definatly one of my favourite albums.

[ulli]

Just went looking for stuff on Chelita and found Mickey Finn's blog (TRex) She was his girlfriend in the sixties.
Chelita died in Barbados in 2000, and I frequently run into her mother Connie now while shopping.
It's not easy, surviving a child.
http://www.myspace.com/finneymick/blog/483222703

** correction, I was misinformed...she died in Marrakesh.

[eaglespirit]

Starting to see the higher purpose in this shock
move and now also the previous hints of it coming
but I didn't twig

More dropping attachments - I was only saying this
morning now happy I was here and how much I loved
this house but getting too comfortable is.not exactly
growth conjusive . At this point I have to keep
moving and opening up to new possibilities and ideas
Nothing like moving house to remove your safety nets

C'mon to the U S of A, Astrid...Your Spirit will Enhance SPIRIT wherever You may Be ;)

[eaglespirit]

I want to share what is my belief to be very special photos. I found two flowers growing in a Juniper tree. Although usually called Red Cedar, it is not a true Cedar belonging in the Juniperus genus instead of the Cedrus genus for true cedars. With the technical silliness out of the way let me show you. What appears to be a rising Moon is one of the pics, is just that.

Here is how they looked as I found them.
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Here are two pics of the one on the left:
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These are pics of the one on the right, with the Moon in one of them:
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Despite there being many trees of this variety on the property I could find no other flowers. I have never seen this kind of flower on a Red Cedar before. It is very special, if only for me.

Click on them for enhanced detail.

There is something very interesting bout that particular type of flower, or bloom. it is a transplant that is literally a separate flower or rootless plant that grows on other plants, in this case..trees. My vague recollection of association... is either medicinal or alchemical.

It has to do with electrostatic charge or energy levels being very high. (ridiculously high) Ie, don't simply ever touch them.... if looking to harvest them.

There is a very specific handling technique in the gathering and preparation/use. That handling techniques are required to not damage their 'value' or operational parameters, regarding what you are trying to get from the interaction.

Point is, that you are looking at an organism that literally goes to the point in nature where the energy levels are the highest, in order for the given plant to begin it's growth, and mature. It is functioning in the highest energy level natural environment that it can, and thus it's 'organized' level of vibration will be very high.

This is the only recollection component of this interesting plant/organism that I have, at this moment, but it might be enough to find the trail of the thing.

Another bit coming back, is that this might be the highest level of 'alchemical' goodness that is possible, outside of finished alchemical preparations. My thinking is that I vaguely remember, last year, after reading about them..to be on the look out for them...but of course...it faded.

It is functioning in the highest energy level natural environment that it can, and thus it's 'organized' level of vibration will be very high

"Felt" the 'vibration' matter in that matter when looking at Modwiz's pics and being right here right now in the area...interesting and wonderful and telling for me in these times of UPgrade : )

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Playdo-san likes to keep his ninjas boots on at all times.....

Here and now, large, thunderous storms are creeping up from the south. The rain is good for the garden, but the wind and lightning are another story. I have an enormous pecan tree that looms over the house, it is at least 75 years old. It was struck by lightning two years ago, and is dead as a doornail. I am trying to save up enough money to pay someone to fell it before a storm brings it down. I'd do it myself, but I rather enjoy my life. No need to make a hasty exit from this incarnation yet!

Thanks for your posts on circumcision, Carmody. I have thought most often about that. Your statements affirm my intuition about how that has personally affected me. My biggest grudge against it is that I wish I'd have had a voice/choice in the matter. I am not Jewish, just born white middle class in a state that has the poorest medical practices and health education, and I was circumcised. There is a huge disconnect here, the way this is being done, without thought or objection. It's just "what you do" because a doctor says so. The same goes with birth: the c-section rates today have skyrocketed, which is incredible considering that the majority of them are elective inductions/c-sections. I was born by c-section, circumcised, and wasn't breastfed. So, there is hope for those who were not born naturally, under the influence of narcotics, who had their genitals mutilated, did not receive colostrum and later their mother's milk, and my mother smoked like a chimney during pregnancy, Merit Menthol Lights 120's. I believe that if the practices surrounding birth changed paradigms, and mothers were educated about what they and their children really need, many of the world's issues would be solved at birth. Just as people speak of the Federal Reserve needing to be dismantled, along with the CFR, BIS, UN, etc...., so must ACOG (American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists) and and the AMA (American Medical Association). Let's put health first for a change.

[Carmody]

I went back into ninja stealth mode, again, a few weeks back.

I'm all stealth now. Old things, they be.

[Carmody]

1irTlHasgIs

[modwiz]

Well, bless my staff. They have a sort of Butterbeer here. No froth or butter, but very butterscotchy. Makes me think of that witch, Hermione. She was a plucky lass.

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[modwiz]

I want to share what is my belief to be very special photos. I found two flowers growing in a Juniper tree. Although usually called Red Cedar, it is not a true Cedar belonging in the Juniperus genus instead of the Cedrus genus for true cedars. With the technical silliness out of the way let me show you. What appears to be a rising Moon is one of the pics, is just that.

Here is how they looked as I found them.
16065

Here are two pics of the one on the left:
1606116062

These are pics of the one on the right, with the Moon in one of them:
1606416063

Despite there being many trees of this variety on the property I could find no other flowers. I have never seen this kind of flower on a Red Cedar before. It is very special, if only for me.

Click on them for enhanced detail.

There is something very interesting bout that particular type of flower, or bloom. it is a transplant that is literally a separate flower or rootless plant that grows on other plants, in this case..trees. My vague recollection of association... is either medicinal or alchemical.

It has to do with electrostatic charge or energy levels being very high. (ridiculously high) Ie, don't simply ever touch them.... if looking to harvest them.

There is a very specific handling technique in the gathering and preparation/use. That handling techniques are required to not damage their 'value' or operational parameters, regarding what you are trying to get from the interaction.

Point is, that you are looking at an organism that literally goes to the point in nature where the energy levels are the highest, in order for the given plant to begin it's growth, and mature. It is functioning in the highest energy level natural environment that it can, and thus it's 'organized' level of vibration will be very high.

This is the only recollection component of this interesting plant/organism that I have, at this moment, but it might be enough to find the trail of the thing.

Another bit coming back, is that this might be the highest level of 'alchemical' goodness that is possible, outside of finished alchemical preparations. My thinking is that I vaguely remember, last year, after reading about them..to be on the look out for them...but of course...it faded.

There have been vortical energies here for all the years I have been working here (4). I have stayed for six months at a time for the last 3 years. This year the energies are almost overwhelming and are making me feel lightly intoxicated since my arrival last Friday night. Dreams are intense and start form eyes closing until opening. I will have to be diligent about their content. This is a habit I have never developed. I am willing to work hard, but avoid any unnecessary assignments.

As stated in my last sentence of my pic post, these two 'flower fungi' exuded a special 'story' to me. My dreams confirm that something is about to break, and the potential for complete paradigm shifting for the good is what the story is. It will be neither clean, nor effortless though. Our talk is going to find myriad opportunities to walk.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Well, bless my staff. They have a sort of Butterbeer here. No froth or butter, but very butterscotchy. Makes me think of that witch, Hermione. She was a plucky lass.

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Trust you to have a staff :P So do I lol... might have to try making some butterbeer myself ;-)

[Guest]

I'm trying to lighten my mood.

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Love

Nora

[ViralSpiral]

Lol Nora. Worked for me ;)

Interesting song choice by Carmody about broken clocks... considering 3 stopped yesterday. Let's see where that goes.

Lisa, how I wished I was hopping on the noon train with you. Please give the pie and duck a hug from me. Ta

Am thinking of another bob, as Maizie undergoes surgery.
You too Astrid and Ulli. Meeredas? Seems we are all facing challenges.

Am off to face the dragon.

Toodle pip

[niki]

(*please forgive for my cussing words...it's just that I'm being VERY honest with my feelings & thoughts today when posting this!..*)

seriously, when will all of this start to REALLY HAPPEN?

damn....you don't know how I'm sooo f*cking tired of waiting SO damn long for the REAL, RADICAL CHANGES to happen!
this world is so f*cked-up, and I'm becoming such a misanthropy and can't relate to society anymore these days!..

I hate NOT the planet, but the real-world and its 'mundane, dry' , bloody money/profits-seeking vultures, and ignorant SOCIETY these days!..

[ulli]

There was heavy rain in the mountains during the afternoon and the river is now roaring. Rocks are clonking together, rolling along in the force of the water.

[Calz]

I went back into ninja stealth mode, again, a few weeks back.

I have become so detached from the forum at large that I switched first time ever a couple days ago ...

Since I have no urge to use my weapons ... no need to decloak ...


http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_1230/subcat_1898/star-trek-hillios-bird-of-prey-painting.jpg

[PurpleLama]

I've been deleting about 80% of the posts I write, here lately. Keeping quiet, just a sharpening that sword.

Bob, part of my heart is with you, I hope you have it on you, my friend.

[ulli]

I've been deleting about 80% of the posts I write, here lately. Keeping quiet, just a sharpening that sword.

Bob, part of my heart is with you, I hope you have it on you, my friend.


Where is Bob?
And Lama is sharpening his sword?
Getting ready for war?

[Calz]

I've been deleting about 80% of the posts I write, here lately. Keeping quiet, just a sharpening that sword.

Bob, part of my heart is with you, I hope you have it on you, my friend.


Where is Bob?
And Lama is sharpening his sword?
Getting ready for war?

@ another bob


I'll be sitting in the hospital tomorrow while Mazie undergoes emergency surgery,

Obviously any healing, prayers or thoughts would be helpful.

[tenacity1]

I hear you ULLI and understand. Hi Ernie and all


It's gonna be a beautiful day with the full moon coming. I'm on this.."I will not back down from my positive stance despite insomnia and despite the energies spinning around us. I'm gonna be grateful and happy and live in the LIght and never quit.. I wish that good energy for you all here

[pickle]

I've been deleting about 80% of the posts I write, here lately. Keeping quiet, just a sharpening that sword.

Bob, part of my heart is with you, I hope you have it on you, my friend.


Where is Bob?
And Lama is sharpening his sword?
Getting ready for war?

@ another bob


I'll be sitting in the hospital tomorrow while Mazie undergoes emergency surgery,

Obviously any healing, prayers or thoughts would be helpful.

Thanks for this Calz.

@Another Bob, my thoughts are with you and yours, all love.

Peace,

John

[RunningDeer]

What is your hunch about them?
First impression, fright because of the movie in the 1950's called, "The Blob". Second impression, healing medicine for coming air/earth changes. Left with, feeling of hope in that adaptation continues on all levels.

Thanks, modwiz :wave:

[RunningDeer]

I've been deleting about 80% of the posts I write, here lately. Keeping quiet, just a sharpening that sword.

This is helpful for me to read, PL. I find myself writing posts and not posting them. Too, words I think and read escape. That part I'm liking because I'm going back to sitting without purpose to see what comes up.

[ulli]

I've been deleting about 80% of the posts I write, here lately. Keeping quiet, just a sharpening that sword.

Bob, part of my heart is with you, I hope you have it on you, my friend.


Where is Bob?
And Lama is sharpening his sword?
Getting ready for war?

@ another bob


I'll be sitting in the hospital tomorrow while Mazie undergoes emergency surgery,

Obviously any healing, prayers or thoughts would be helpful.

Is this today?
Bob and Mazie, may all go well for you.
Wishing for a swift recovery.
Hope other Villagers are around to add their energy.

[ulli]

I hear you ULLI and understand. Hi Ernie and all


It's gonna be a beautiful day with the full moon coming. I'm on this.."I will not back down from my positive stance despite insomnia and despite the energies spinning around us. I'm gonna be grateful and happy and live in the LIght and never quit.. I wish that good energy for you all here


After reading more of the other forum threads yesterday I felt myself being affected by some of the negativity.
I'm one of the first to say to people to inform themselves, but when the information can't be verified, is based on speculation, and is consistently painting a dark and gloomy picture then all I can do is dig into my own positive thinking reserves.
To be self empowered means to feel energy bubbling from that infinite internal source and the gas pedal is positive thought.
So, thanks, tenacity1, for contributing your fuel.
One person alone only represents the power of one.
Two united represent the power of four,
three united represent the power of nine.

[PurpleLama]

There has been an ongoing force trying to draw us out and reveal ourselves for what we really are at a point where it would be exceedingly irresponsible to do so. Personally, I feel like I'm high enough on the list, already. The observers are compiling their notes, these days, it seems. Therefore we should be more careful where we are visible. I apologize for the vagueness of this reply, just this wizard's humble opinion.

Stock up on kelp/iodine products, and start taking them if you haven't. Eat the hand harvested sea salt, or the himalayan sea salt, for we need our conductivity most of all, here and meow.

[Calz]

Is this today?




Yes.

He posted that yesterday evening (usa time). He was also supposed to have gotten his test results back but he didn't mention that in the short post.