Here and Now...What's Happening?

[RunningDeer]

Thanks for that post, WCBD. I'm really feeling these effects today, and so are many others around here. Doing the extra water and Omega 3 thing.

I mentioned earlier about the unscheduled power naps. I have a lot of energy in the morning, so I make sure I get in a walk and/or Tai Chi and all the other stuff. The article helped me understand the swings from loss of appetite to grazing. Grrrr. It’s frustrating because I’m doing a lot of good things but wipe out some of the progress with poor food choices.

I’m committed to clearing out the physical body in new ways. So I’m nearing the end of my second round of the gallbladder and liver flush. And in one week, it marks the milestone of 90 days of drinking a gallon/4 liters of distilled water a day. (I add liquid minerals to the water.)

So, I’m thinkin’ that these actions steps, lessen solar flare symptoms. Even if it's only a 'sugar pill', it still a net gain in healthy life choices.


So it's June now, and I've just done my 5th liver flush!

Ilie Pandia inspired me to do the liver and gallbladder detox (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-&p=516811&viewfull=1#post516811). And in Paul’s post #52, link to a quick read and instructions called, "The Amazing Liver & Gallbladder Flush (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0976571501/ref=cm_sw_su_dp)"

Andrew Norton Webber w' Lisa Harrison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_msWtSljFQw) “Distill Water for Health and Awakening” - Don’t be put off in the first 16 minutes. It opens up to the distill water health benefits.

This is the original site called, "Distill Water for Health and Awakening (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44959-Distilled-water-for-health-and-awakening...)".

[Dennis Leahy]

Marianne, Does post 16957 have an image? I see no image, no broken link symbol...

Dennis
{edit} Browser: Firefox 14.0.1, on Windoze.

Hi Dennis,
Yes that post has two food pictures, the red bowl of salad and white baking dish of vegetables. Can you see them in the reply posts?
I wonder if it has to do with how I posted them ... I will try a couple of different things later ... I'm at work now.
Thanks. :)
Nope, no pictures. You'll have to describe them to me. See if you can make me drool on the keyboard. :~)

Dennis

[Dennis Leahy]

Just back from my second trip to the garden today - no rain in a while, lotsa watering needed. Our growing season is later than much of the Northern Hemisphere, and we just ate the first 'SunGold' tomato and the first sweet pepper. Lettuce, kale and a few herbs were the first tidbits.

Now, I need one of WhiteCrowBlackDeer's power naps, but it's off to Kundalini Yoga class. Hope the instructor can wake me after shavasana. :~)

Dennis

[Kristin]

Maybe we could ask the mods to allow a non-public access Garage sale thread,
where Avalon members who are hitting on hard times can put up pictures of stuff they want to sell,
and then negotiate via PM. If they have a Paypal account it might work.

So you mean like an Avalon ebay but more private and closed? Hmmm. Interesting thought... we'll talk about that.

[benevolentcrow]

Maybe we could ask the mods to allow a non-public access Garage sale thread,
where Avalon members who are hitting on hard times can put up pictures of stuff they want to sell,
and then negotiate via PM. If they have a Paypal account it might work.

So you mean like an Avalon ebay but more private and closed? Hmmm. Interesting thought... we'll talk about that.

I like that idea too! Although most of the things I am trying to sell are on my Etsy page already.

Since doing the Ho-oponopono a few post back I have sold 4 things. It works!! I will keep Ho-oponopono-ing, if anyone would like to send the sales fairy my way again, it would be much appreciated! Thanks Villagers! A great roost the Here and Now...What's Happening!!

[ulli]

Maybe we could ask the mods to allow a non-public access Garage sale thread,
where Avalon members who are hitting on hard times can put up pictures of stuff they want to sell,
and then negotiate via PM. If they have a Paypal account it might work.

So you mean like an Avalon ebay but more private and closed? Hmmm. Interesting thought... we'll talk about that.

You are the first person to respond to this idea. And I had forgotten all about it already.

Actually, it was not meant to be an auction...just more like a garage sale where members can browse pictures of stuff
other members want to get rid of.
More like Craigslist than Ebay.

The negotiation then is between them and has to take place via PM or E-mail.
Also the selling part is between them, as well as the shipping.
Not Avalon's problem, so people would do it at their own risk.

Important part is that nobody starts cluttering up the threads with their garage sale items.
In other words, no advertising.

But if anybody wants to sell their old copy of The Day After Roswell....
we will all know where to look.

If a member then doesn't ship the item after having received the money this could of course damage
their reputation as a member in good standing of the Avalon community.

But maybe not a good idea...
Since you and I are the only ones in 5000+ members who even gave it a thought....

[Marianne]

Marianne, Does post 16957 have an image? I see no image, no broken link symbol...

Dennis
{edit} Browser: Firefox 14.0.1, on Windoze.

Hi Dennis,
Yes that post has two food pictures, the red bowl of salad and white baking dish of vegetables. Can you see them in the reply posts?
I wonder if it has to do with how I posted them ... I will try a couple of different things later ... I'm at work now.
Thanks. :)
Nope, no pictures. You'll have to describe them to me. See if you can make me drool on the keyboard. :~)

Dennis

ok, let's see if this works:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7117/7640225612_c883b90ba7.jpg
Baked Veggies (in case the photos don't come through, cover up your keyboard, here it comes: bok choy, celery leaves, sweet potato, carrot, cauliflower, yellow crookneck squash, red cabbage, and onion. I usually put garlic in but didn't have any for this. All drizzled with good quality olive oil, good shakes of pink Himalayan salt and coarse ground black pepper... covered and baked slowly, turns out roasted to a sweetness and rich flavor you don't get with steaming or other methods)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7249/7640222884_b9273f80bb.jpg
Tomato Artichoke Salad (home grown garden tomatoes, artichoke hearts, yellow bell pepper, English cucumber, Greek olives, and parsley with garlic vinaigrette dressing)

Can you see 'em now?

Your garden sounds good ... I've never had a sungold tomato but have seen the variety in a seed catalog. Enjoy the harvest.

[Kristin]

Maybe we could ask the mods to allow a non-public access Garage sale thread,
where Avalon members who are hitting on hard times can put up pictures of stuff they want to sell,
and then negotiate via PM. If they have a Paypal account it might work.

So you mean like an Avalon ebay but more private and closed? Hmmm. Interesting thought... we'll talk about that.


You are the first person to respond to this idea. And I had forgotten all about it already.

Actually, it was not meant to be an auction...just more like a garage sale where members can browse pictures of stuff
other members want to get rid of.
More like Craigslist than Ebay.

The negotiation then is between them and has to take place via PM or E-mail.
Also the selling part is between them, as well as the shipping.
Not Avalon's problem, so people would do it at their own risk.

Important part is that nobody starts cluttering up the threads with their garage sale items.
In other words, no advertising.

But if anybody wants to sell their old copy of The Day After Roswell....
we will all know where to look.

If a member then doesn't ship the item after having received the money this could of course damage
their reputation as a member in good standing of the Avalon community.

But maybe not a good idea...
Since you and I are the only ones in 5000+ members who even gave it a thought....

We're discussing the possibility and all the ups and downs of such a thought experiment. Any type of thoughts that anyone would add in this direction are appreciated.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[another bob]

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[benevolentcrow]

Amazing Another Bob!!! Just beautiful photographs!

[DeDukshyn]

Thanks for the baked veggies details Marianne .. I was just about to ask you for that recipe then saw you just posted it, another synch! ;) ;) looks wonderful!

[Dennis Leahy]

ok, let's see if this works:
...
Can you see 'em now?

Your garden sounds good ... I've never had a sungold tomato but have seen the variety in a seed catalog. Enjoy the harvest.

I can see 'em, and almost taste 'em! That looks deeeeelicious.

Sungold tomatoes are very sweet. Halved and dried (dehydrator), they are almost candy. They make great salsa fresca too.

Dennis

[astrid]

This is cool...
How to make a rocket stove

www.flickr.com/photos/turukhtan/7274658732/in/photostream/

http://milkwood.net/2011/06/14/rocket-stove-roundup/

http://plantingmilkwood.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/screen-shot-2011-06-12-at-7-17-39-pm.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_stove

more.... a rocket shower, love this one.
a hot shower is for sure one of my must haves..

http://plantingmilkwood.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/3420481892_e1a4b4c736.jpg

http://milkwood.net/2009/07/12/the_rocket_powered_shower/

[astrid]

I will be offline for a few days, i have to clean up a current mess that
needs crossing attention. Poor Louis has had to "nurse" a deceased child
involved for the past few days, and penny just dropped when i had a visit from the rest of the group over night.
Bit of a DUH moment, but you get that.
Hopefully it will be a smooth process for all concerned.
No jokes here, far from it.
Enough said

[Guest]

Eaglespirit came flying by today
said he was working a lot and
not spending much time on the
computer lately. Said to say hi
to all in the village.


Love

Nora

[Anchor]

Old footage of 1950's housewife on LSD (for research!)

I wandered across this 8m 46s video on the internetz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGf2loLAwVE

Particularly struck by her comments from 1m 54s onward


"Its here... cant you feel it?"

Later

"I've never seen such infinite beauty"

Very interesting debate after as well... plz watch it all.

[ulli]

Old footage of 1950's housewife on LSD (for research!)

I wandered across this 8m 46s video on the internetz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGf2loLAwVE

Particularly struck by her comments from 1m 54s onward


"Its here... cant you feel it?"

Later

"I've never seen such infinite beauty"

Very interesting debate after as well... plz watch it all.


Link not visible on iPhones and iPads. So here it is:

iGf2loLAwVE

[Fred Steeves]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGf2loLAwVE


That was a trip down memory lane.

[Anchor]

That was a trip down memory lane.

Oooooh yes it was ;)

BTDTGTT

[ulli]

That was a trip down memory lane.

Oooooh yes it was ;)

BTDTGTT


Without LSD I would never have discovered the Here and Now.
Nor the ability to tune in without the help of substances, because that became my next obsession...
Raise my consciousness level.

Initially it was really quite rough on my psychological state.
There I was, just like that woman in the video- seeing "heaven",
only to come crashing down a few hours later when the effect had faded.
And those crashes lasted for days...they were horrible...
until then I had not known what depression really was.

And sometimes I wonder if that was the real reason that it got banned....
to protect people from the fallout of having to adjust to the ugliness of 3D after each trip.

I was also a poor student, and had to struggle to survive.
and didn't want to bother my parents for money. Those were hard times.

But it worked out for me, and I now consider myself one of the pioneers of how to live with a foot in either world.
To the materialists I can say 'you don't have to lose out if you loosen up just a bit
and try and get a glimpse of those other realities',
and to the spiritual who say money is evil, I can say that money is energy,
and managing it to one's own advantage can give one more freedom and power.
How it is used when it starts to flow in, in larger and larger sums,
that's when the good and evil aspects of it enter.

[benevolentcrow]

So true.

Quote of the day: Do not worry about how you will make it all work. Just focus on how you feel and go towards those things that bring forth joy. When you are living in your joy, the Universe is living joyfully through you. When you are living a life of fear, the Universe is dying and becoming smaller. Remember you are a child of the Universe and everything the Universe provides is abundant. The sun shines rays of joy, the bird sings a song of joy, the tree joyfully grows to provide shade and keep the air clean. Everything has a purpose and when we are living in our joyful purpose we will be supported because the Universe loves joy. It takes a little bit of time to go from fear to joy, but if you stay steady and keep the course you will at last come to see that your joy can be your reality. Trust in promise of joy, it is your birthright........Jackson Kiddard

[dan33]

Hi! Thanks to everybody.
Hugo is back home. The analysis are ok. The Doctor thiks it's anorexia. We have to wait two or three days for the results of the remaining analysis.
I'm sure we'll play football-soccer on the corridor today. :)

Love, Daniel.


Hugs and kisses from Hugo and Inés

[dan33]

SPIELBERG, TRUFFAUT & ME. Close Encounters of the Third Kind. An Actor's Diary by BOB BALABAN

"Spielberg leads Truffaut and Lance and me over to a Cadillac limousine. He puts Lance in the driver's seat and Truffaut and me in the back seat and tells us to rehearse the scene. Truffaut is to give me a copy of a dirty book and have me translate a couple of pages into English:
'Her firm young breast heaved with excitement as she slipped off her wooly sweater. Her nipples were as hard, pink and round as bubblegum'. We all laugh. My character is supposed to be embarrassed. Spielberg tells me to practically yell the lines. Spielberg is right - it definitely is more embarrassing to translate porn at the top of my lungs"

This scene was cut from the final print. :)

I was reading this paragraph at the Hospital room , and laughing. So, Hugo became to laugh too.
.
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[dan33]

SPIELBERG, TRUFFAUT & ME. Close Encounters of the Third Kind. An Actor's Diary by BOB BALABAN

'Steven (Spielberg) has been receiving reports of a guy who is running around L.A. pretending to be him. He's been getting people to pay for his dinners, and has been giving Steven a generally bad name. Steven is upset, so he takes an ad in The Hollywood Reporter: 'To the gullible and defenselees: The man walking the streets of Los Angeles is not Steven Spielberg. Steven Spielberg is in Alabama, making Close Encounters of the Third Kind. At least do not allow this sad fraud to make you pay for dinner. This year, Steven Spielberg can afford a meal'

[Guest]

I've never experienced LSD.

Have been reading about the Hawaiian Huna

Thought I would share some of their precepts from the book Huna, by Serge Kahili King

The world is what you think it is; There are no limits; Energy flows where attention goes; Now is the moment of power; To love is to be happy with; All power comes from within; Effectiveness is the measure of truth

I knew a dean of a school, he was Native American (I forget which nation) and a SunDancer. He used to post these sayings in the main hallway of the school. One of them was "Balance being with doing."


Love

Nora

[astrid]

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[astrid]

i also watched this yesterday

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I love how Lars Von Trier finds beauty in all things,
i always loved his films, and this is no exception.

Hes kind of Danish version of Kubrick in many ways.

[Marianne]

Daniel, prayers and besos for Hugo, from my heart. So good that you are there to help him laugh.

WCBD, did you get your copy of 'Stalking the Wild Pendulum' yet? I'd be interested to know what you think about it. It's one of the few such books I can understand.
Here's a bit I've soaked up so far.
"I am attempting in this book to build a model of the universe that will satisfy the need for a comprehensive picture of 'what our existence is all about.' In other words, a holistic model that encompasses not only the physical, observable universe that is our immediate environment and the distance universe observed by our astronomers but also other 'realities' as well. Normally, we do not consider the emotional, mental and intuitive components of our beings as 'realities.' I will try to persuade you that they are. The phenomena that we call 'unexplained,' like psychokineses (the moving of an object with the power of the mind), telepathy, out-of-body phenomena, clairvoyance, etc., can all be explained once we know the general underlying principles governing them."
--Itzhak Bentov

I hope everyone is well and happy ... and recovered from any T-square angst. I'm still pinging a bit from Leo moon but expect to be back to normal (whatever that is) soon.

It's a beautiful day, though still hot and humid. Somehow it feels so quiet and is forcing me into a meditative space, making me look at things I've tucked away. Shadow stuff, always good for me to dive into, but I put it off until I must.

Love to all,
JB

[astrid]

Ahh thats what it is, the Leo moon
I have been finding that i have certain energies that have been going sideways into shadow expressions,
and yeah they have been Leo in flavour, good insight there.

Now to figure out why they are veering off rather than going straight and expressing as the more pure archetypes.
Interesting times.

[astrid]

Nora, Interesting i have a friend that has just returned from a Sun Dance

[Guest]

Nora, Interesting i have a friend that has just returned from a Sun Dance

There are many from late June to late September in several of the states and a couple in Mexico.

Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, Montana, South Dakota and North Dakota; there may be
more in other states but I'm not sure.

Back in the 70's when the Native American Religious Freedom Act went through there were only two Sun Dances.


Love

Nora

[RunningDeer]

Daniel, prayers and besos for Hugo, from my heart. So good that you are there to help him laugh.

WCBD, did you get your copy of 'Stalking the Wild Pendulum' yet? I'd be interested to know what you think about it. It's one of the few such books I can understand.
Here's a bit I've soaked up so far.
"I am attempting in this book to build a model of the universe that will satisfy the need for a comprehensive picture of 'what our existence is all about.' In other words, a holistic model that encompasses not only the physical, observable universe that is our immediate environment and the distance universe observed by our astronomers but also other 'realities' as well. Normally, we do not consider the emotional, mental and intuitive components of our beings as 'realities.' I will try to persuade you that they are. The phenomena that we call 'unexplained,' like psychokineses (the moving of an object with the power of the mind), telepathy, out-of-body phenomena, clairvoyance, etc., can all be explained once we know the general underlying principles governing them."
--Itzhak Bentov

Love to all,
JB

Yes, Marianne, I'm only on page 6 of the intro. I got the book a couple of days ago. I'm dividing my time between that and these:

“Falling into Grace”, by: Adyashanti
“Wake Up and Roar,” by: Papaji
“Our Universal Journey,” by: George Kavassilas
“The Mastery of Love,” by: Don Miguel Ruiz

It's an easy read. I'm getting stuck on taking notes and writing in the margins as things come up. Which means it's a great book. I'm liking that right off the bat Itzhak Bentov promises that it's not technical book.

Listening to vids while I finish my last night of liver detox (Yuck part coming in an hour, olive oil and grapefruit juice, glug-glug-glug. Shivers.). This afternoon I experienced the worst chills of fire throughout my whole body, right down to the bones. Shivered under the covers, tried to use Tai Chi principles of relaxation of muscles so energy will flow where it needed too. Thankful, I fell asleep for 45 minutes. Arms and hands are still hot, hot and tingly and achy. Hard to say if it's the sun thingy or detox. Maybe both.

:wave: & Love to All...

[WhiteFeather]

Evening Peeps from the East, Just A little cat humor for thine eyes to feast.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-U7MR4buFk&feature=related

[Guest]

Here is a site which has a moon calendar.
The time is set for Pacific Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Saving

Site link: http://www.moontracks.com/

Direct link to calendar: http://www.moontracks.com/cgi-bin/astrology-calendar.pl
at the top of the calendar is a link to adjust for the time zone.

Love

Nora

[benevolentcrow]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

[meeradas]

Had to borrow this from RMorgan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47799-Check-out-this-amazing-guitarrist-&p=527438#top), so all props to him.

Antoine Dufour's Sound Pictures

NAfCcyWUIwI


Here' s Antoine's website: http://www.antoinedufourmusic.com/

Really good stuff... this guy is playing his strings on my heart.

[Eram]

Hi! Thanks to everybody.
Hugo is back home. The analysis are ok. The Doctor thiks it's anorexia. We have to wait two or three days for the results of the remaining analysis.
I'm sure we'll play football-soccer on the corridor today. :)

Love, Daniel.


Hugs and kisses from Hugo and Inés

Thank you for the update Dan.
I guess his life is not immediate danger then? Though 10 kg drop in weight is much for a 12 year old.
All the best wishes for the times to come for you and your loved ones.

I have two funny things to mention:
first one is that I'm still exercising with astral travel. I do it in the daytime these days and today I was laying on the sofa and heard the washing machine doing it's work and couldn't help but to think: Oh no... it's program is almost finished and then it will start peeping and I hate that. It will ruin my efforts today. Funny thing is, that the peeper (were I'm a little neurotic about) never peeped when the machine stopped it's program (the peeper will continue until I push the power button, so there is no mistake here). Same thing yesterday!
The next program I used for the washing machine... the peeper did it again, so it isn't broke. There is someone helping me :)

Second: In the past days, there have been flies sitting down on me. arms, head, feet... everything. They mostly won't fly away when I try to pick them of. I can just take them with my fingers.... weird! Like there is a message in there. And before you start thinking the obvious... I have been taking my showers :P

Have a lovely day all!

[WhiteFeather]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

Awesome Picture.....Now that brought a tear to my left sided male brain, which of late has been receiving female energies trying to open up the right side. Psssss dont tell anyone please.

[ulli]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

Awesome Picture.....Now that brought a tear to my left sided male brain, which of late has been receiving female energies trying to open up the right side. Psssss dont tell anyone please.

Lucky you.
Even though I am female I also have a left sided dominant male brain, and so far have had only a few moments when all is 100% in balance.
Married to a ride sided female brain man, hehe...
which takes the role reversal marriage to new heights. While he is fussing in the kitchen I'm either in the garden or on the computer.
Yet neither of us have idiosyncrasies, like cross-dressing, nor do we have bi- or homosexual tendencies.
I suspect he was a lesbian in a past life and I was a gay man. It was he who taught me to really make peace with my mother.
I still felt guilt pangs when I saw that picture of mother and daughter.

http://ask-samknoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/19/left-brain-vs-right-brain/right-brain-left-brain-fnl-598x441.jpg

[meeradas]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

Awesome Picture.....Now that brought a tear to my left sided male brain, which of late has been receiving female energies trying to open up the right side. Psssss dont tell anyone please.

Lucky you.

A true story about a family [picture]:

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yeah, one should take it whilst everyone is around...

---

Here's sth that one needs both hemispheres (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30612-The-Heavy-Metal-Music-Thread&p=527573#post527573)for - for both creation, and consumption

[Taurean]

How ironic that on the eve of the Games, Channel 4 is screening H G Wells classic " The First Men In the Moon "


World government

His ( HGW ) most consistent political ideal was the World State. He stated in his autobiography that from 1900 onward he considered a World State inevitable. He envisioned the state to be a planned society that would advance science, end nationalism, and allow people to progress by merit rather than birth. In 1932, he told Young Liberals at the University of Oxford that progressive leaders must become liberal fascists or enlightened Nazis in order to implement their ideas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells

[Mark]

i also watched this yesterday

wzD0U841LRM

I love how Lars Von Trier finds beauty in all things,
i always loved his films, and this is no exception.

Hes kind of Danish version of Kubrick in many ways.

It was a beautiful movie, Astrid, I agree completely. My only disappointment with it was the main protagonist's view on extraterrestrial life in the universe. It was indeed beautifully shot and conceived.

What strange days we are living.

A sky full of chemtrails yesterday left us up here in Quebec with cloudy skies today. It was the first time I've seen such a concentration of them since I've been up here. I was a bit disappointed, as I'd held out some sort of hope for the rebellious nature of the Quebecois, thinking maybe they wouldn't subject their folks to chemtrails. I didn't take the below pic but it's what the sky looked like up here yesterday morning:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17544&d=1343315246

But with the sun doing it's thing so awesomely these days and the drought-like conditions up here, maybe they just wanted some rain, as that being a side-effect of more cloud cover, I guess.

I've also never tried anything hallucinogenic stronger than shrooms. Those didn't even really seem hallucinogenic to me either as they just seemed to make nature seem closer and everything had a greater clarity to it. That vid on the lady taking shrooms was revelatory as was Ulli's experience and subsequent life changes. Hope everybody's enjoying their day!

[RunningDeer]

I want!

Going to the Barn House Vintage Market next Saturday, can't wait. In Battleground Washington, with my two daughters! An overnight with the girls, they are leaving the kids at home with Dad!

There will be no heavy thoughts, just rustic, chippy paint, lace, upscale recycled, reused industrial, barn, country, retro, creative, farmhouse, cool, pretty stuff!

Barn House Vintage Market...pretty soon.... Enjoy the visit with your daughters, Benevolent Crow. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bliss.gif

[dan33]

THE DISENCHANTED by BUDD SCHULBERG.

(A Masterpiece on modern Literature. Anthony Burgess)

Here it is the description of a party in the '20s.

The band medleyed into Jeannine and someone said isn't that Blanche Mehaffey over there and somebody said don't you think Dolores Del Rio is the most beautiful woman in Hollywood and someone said no, dolores Costello and somebody said the trumpet player is cute and somebody said you and trumpet players and somebody said i heard a cute one in the commissary the other day and somebody said i had a cute one in my dressing room the other day and somebody said for the fifth time that evening Won't it be great when we have Smith for President so we can get liquor get back and somebody said I wish they'd play Sweethearts on Parade and somebody said where were you, dopey, they just did and somebody said I love champagne but it doesn't love me and somebody look at her talking babytalk why you know what we call her on the lot the human pincushion and somemody said she hasen't got any morals I mean she doesn't even try to hide what she does and somebody said Great Just the Greatest Thing Since the Ten Commandments and somebody said wich ones God's or DeMilles's and of course somebody said you better not let C.B. hear you giving him second billing and somebody said for the sixht time that evening Pardon me while i go into my strange innertube and somebody said for the sixteenth time........

[benevolentcrow]

I want!

Going to the Barn House Vintage Market next Saturday, can't wait. In Battleground Washington, with my two daughters! An overnight with the girls, they are leaving the kids at home with Dad!

There will be no heavy thoughts, just rustic, chippy paint, lace, upscale recycled, reused industrial, barn, country, retro, creative, farmhouse, cool, pretty stuff!

Barn House Vintage Market...pretty soon.... Enjoy the visit with your daughters, Benevolent Crow. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bliss.gif

Thank you so much! Sometimes hitting that thanks button is not enough, we need a genuine HUG button!

[dan33]

i also watched this yesterday

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I love how Lars Von Trier finds beauty in all things,
i always loved his films, and this is no exception.

Hes kind of Danish version of Kubrick in many ways.

Highly anticipated ... but I could not get into the movie. There is a very Similar movie. I can not remeber the title. Another Earth on the sky, an alternative Earth.

and while i'm writting this i'm having a deja vu of that moment.

I dream last night with panters or female lions. Playing with them. Sometimes is scary. It's not a cat bitting your arm (little pet ) is someone who weighs 200 kilos. No jokes. Be calm. :) Buff!!!

[benevolentcrow]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

Awesome Picture.....Now that brought a tear to my left sided male brain, which of late has been receiving female energies trying to open up the right side. Psssss dont tell anyone please.

As I said to WCBD the thanks button is so inefficient! Come on Mod's hows about a XOXOXO button!

[RunningDeer]

I want!

Going to the Barn House Vintage Market next Saturday, can't wait. In Battleground Washington, with my two daughters! An overnight with the girls, they are leaving the kids at home with Dad!

There will be no heavy thoughts, just rustic, chippy paint, lace, upscale recycled, reused industrial, barn, country, retro, creative, farmhouse, cool, pretty stuff!

Barn House Vintage Market...pretty soon.... Enjoy the visit with your daughters, Benevolent Crow. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bliss.gif

Thank you so much! Sometimes hitting that thanks button is not enough, we need a genuine HUG button!

Time with family... Pricless. Big hug back. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/grouphugg.gif

[benevolentcrow]

My comment for the day! Although I don't own a gun, I sometimes wish I did and I would like the right to purchase one if I felt the need strongly enough! My brother-in-law once showed me how to use a shot gun and it kick me on my butt and I had a bruised shoulder. I thought no!

[Mark]

Highly anticipated ... but I could not get into the movie. There is a very Similar movie. I can not remeber the title. Another Earth on the sky, an alternative Earth.

and while i'm writting this i'm having a deja vu of that moment.

I saw Another Earth too. It's a similar idea, in that another giant planet is headed toward Earth, but a whole different treatment of it. I liked that movie also, thought it was very clever, especially the ending. Made you think, what if something like that really happened? Another planet with another copy of you showed up that had been hidden on the other side of the Sun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8hEwMMDtFY

[ulli]

Hubby is arriving tonight. All the family will be together for at least three weeks. YAY!

[dan33]

Highly anticipated ... but I could not get into the movie. There is a very Similar movie. I can not remeber the title. Another Earth on the sky, an alternative Earth.

and while i'm writting this i'm having a deja vu of that moment.

I saw Another Earth too. It's a similar idea, in that another giant planet is headed toward Earth, but a whole different treatment of it. I liked that movie also, thought it was very clever, especially the ending. Made you think, what if something like that really happened? Another planet with another copy of you showed up that had been hidden on the other side of the Sun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8hEwMMDtFY

Thanks Rahkyt.

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[RunningDeer]

Hubby is arriving tonight. All the family will be together for at least three weeks. YAY!


YAY! Family time!
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/plush-puppies.JPG

[Marianne]

I drew a tarot card today. 4 of cups.

http://www.nodntap.net/tarot/images/4_of_cups.jpg

Here is Jan Shepherd's take on it. Just thought I'd share.

The Four of Cups

The Lord of Luxury … is a card with a sting in the tail. Whilst it indicates a great deal of loving affection surrounding us, it also warns that we stand the very real possibility of committing a great sin - that of taking love for granted.

One thing you might have noticed in life is the strange way in which we value the love of people we feel deeply affectionate toward more highly than the love of people we are less attracted to. From my perspective this is an odd, and rather unkind attitude to have.

Love is a mighty and precious emotion. It both creates and destroys with ease. That some-one loves us is a priceless gift from the Universe. Whether we necessarily reciprocate in quite the same way is totally irrelevant. This person's love exists in isolation of our judgement of its importance.

So on a day ruled by the Lord of Pleasure, count the loving feelings that people hold for you. Treasure each and every one of these as the inestimable compliment and treasure it is. Do not stand in judgement. Rather, take a harder look at the people who offer you love, where you may not have sought it. And adjust your view of that love until you respect its worth, even though you may not return it.

Do not fall into the trap of doing things because somebody loves you..simply hold their feelings in the high regard they deserve. And be very grateful and glad to be loved... There are a great many people out there who never experience the warmth of being held dear and special. And that is a very lonely experience.

And if, for the time, you feel as though you are one of those people who is not loved and held dear, then use this day to seek out at least one place where there is an abundance of love, and go to it … everybody deserves to feel that they are not completely alone.

Jan Shepherd
angelpaths.com

Lots of love to us all,
Marianne

[mojo]

Here's a simple message and perhaps we can all benefit from hearing it again. With love,
-mojo

61YN_7pG37M

[Guest]

Awakened to a Falcon screeching from a tree this morning.
Another very clear, beautiful hot day on the mountain -3 days in
a row and the rays from the sun were intense.
Watched the moon rising up over the mountains as the sun was going down.
Surreal.

Enjoying a cool, quiet still evening in the forest.



Love

Nora

[meeradas]

Just got this via email:

"The text used for the narration of “Passing Through” is part of a speech Serbian scientist and inventor Nicola Tesla delivered in 1893 at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. Though today less known than figures like Edison and Einstein, Tesla was more or less the father of much of our modern technology, since he among other things developed the foundations of the European electrical system based on alternating currents and the principles of wireless radio communication.
At the time he was deeply influenced by the Austrian physicist and philosopher Ernst Mach, believing that the world should be conceived as a whole where everything is interconnected influencing each other. And that energy is a force that runs through everything be it inorganic matter, organisms or human consciousness. According to this line of thought every single action has universal consequences, not unlike what the father of modern chaos theory Edward Lorenz in the 1960’s termed ‘the butterfly effect’."


http://vimeo.com/44193401

[Eram]

This is a cross posting from the 'Adventures Beyond the Body (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47841-Adventures-Beyond-the-Body&p=528004#post528004)' thread that another Bob started.
The discussion is going stray to a topic that feels significant i.m.o. for many other people, so I thought to bring this discussion here to.
Maybe we can become aware of this mechanism and learn how to work with this properly.







[...]

Eventually most of the novelty of the extreme pleasure one experiences when flying (and all the more intensely when one does so formlessly, or, even better, universally, e.g. through timelessness) wore off. After two years I became primarily interested in how to bring in resources from higher dimensions down into the world my physical body was in, to help cure or solve my problems or those of other people, or to dissolve away negative energies. I became much more interested in going out of body while awake in my everyday world, and cleaning that up psychologically/energetically.

Why? Because we are living lives in this physical world, and we need to learn to master everything about that world. I found I was sometimes too naïve or impractical, because all the astral traveling was keeping my consciousness too much “in the clouds”. ...
The human body is itself an incredible gateway to many higher dimensions .... I guess these days I prefer [getting deeply in touch with the body] to astral travel, because it works better and quicker, at least in my experience.



May I ask what you mean when you say this... bringing in resources into the physical world?


Hi Wakytweaky,

What I eventually discovered was that there are certain groups of fifth-dimensional beings whom I guess I would call healing angels, for lack of any better term. What happened was that I eventually learnt how to get them to remove certain negative energies from myself or from other individuals -- but only when the individual in question had completed a (for lack of any better term) psychotherapeutic breakthrough in some area. Basically, once a person has been truly healed of some negative or debilitating energy, that energy itself usually has a little consciousness and life of its own, and seeks to attach itself to some other unfortunate person or living creature -- unless that energy gets "airlifted", so to speak, into a more positive dimension than this one. (In the Gospels Jesus is described as casting out evil spirits and in one case then sending some that had been cast out into a herd of pigs, rather than people. I suspect Jesus would have known how to send said evil spirits to a higher dimension, but probably the author of that part of that Gospel didn't know to do this.)

[snip]

Thank you,

This feels like important information.

I know of a few people who are dealing with situations where they overcome stuck energy, or darkness if you will and find themselves in a situation where people close to them seem to have adopted this very energy.
This includes myself too.
I am in the middle of a process of... in loss of better words, cleaning myself of lots of stuck energy and there have been many moments that at the same time, my girlfriend started showing the psychological symptoms that I just got rid of. How do I learn to send this energy away to a place it can no longer do any harm?


And astrid wrote this in the thread of 'Faster EFT'. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47726-Faster-EFT-by-Robert-Smith)
Is this the same thing that you talk about there Astrid?
Could you tell us more about this principle and how we can send these energies to the right place?
I feel this is very important information that we all need to know.




Yep i can vouch for EFT, it works and fast.

Rob Smiths version i liked better as the original one was
a bit too long winded for me. After a while you can train
your body to just use one point , and shorten it even more.
That's what i did anyways, but that's just me, i like to take tools
and then make them my own in some way.

The only thing i would add to his work, knowing what i know
now, is a transmuting step. Too many practitioners teach to release
your "stuff" just into the ethers.. and its a big problem.
IMO anyways..

[ulli]

I used EFT during a business crisis six years go and it helped me stay calm.
It was the typical conman-crying-poor situation, and I fell into it.
But I learnt a lot and EFT helped me process the shocking truth of having been conned.
Haven't been using it since, but there has been no need to.

[benevolentcrow]

Hello Villagers.

I am asking for a miracle for my cousin's grand son. I just know how I would feel if I were in her place.

Jacob is two and has be diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia, going through heavy chemo, radiation right now and a bone marrow transplant soon. So scary and sad to see such a cute little guy go through this.

If you can find it in your beautiful hearts to send out the healing energy for Jacob, I would be grateful.

Thanks, Villagers

Carolyn

[Marianne]

Dearest Carolyn, I am sending healing love to little Jacob. I see him in the steadfast energy of Love, stronger than any other force I know.

All love,
Marianne

[RunningDeer]

I purchased an eBook, "The Amazing Liver & Gallbladder Flush," by: Moritz, Andreas. I was so impressed by the information covered and his clear writing style that I checked out other books. "Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation" has the same information as the first book mentioned and TONS more topics. Though pricey, I went ahead and purchased a hard copy today.

I found a free pdf of the book. After spending several hours reading, I decided it was worth a hard copy because with pdf books you can't highlight or make notes. Here's the freebie:"Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation" (http://j.b5z.net/i/u/7000617/f/Timeless_Secrets_of_Health_and_Rejuvenation_NOV_2007_eBook.pdf)

[another bob]

Could you tell us more about this principle and how we can send these energies to the right place?
I feel this is very important information that we all need to know.

Focused intention is all-powerful. In other words, you can create "the right place", since there actually is no objective place other than that which you yourself manifest by your attention and intention. For example, one person taught me to visualize a pool of golden white light about three feet above my head, from which I draw down healing energy, and in return, send back discharged toxicity. Based on the reality I grant such a visualization, it works very well. Now, is there really such a pool above my head? What accounts for the appearance of anything, might be a better question. What grants the power of perception itself? What sees, what feels, what dreams? You see, it all comes back to "What/who am I?"

:yo:

[1inMany]

Good day/night all,

So much, just so much. Sleeping at night and not taking naps. Motivation strikes to clear out old clutter around the house. It feels good inside when I have the external less chaotic.

Calm is settling over me for a change. I like that change. I know the ebb and flow will come, but enjoying the moment.

Feeling quieter.

Love you all,

[Eram]

Focused intention is all-powerful. In other words, you can create "the right place", since there actually is no objective place other than that which you yourself manifest by your attention and intention. For example, one person taught me to visualize a pool of golden white light about three feet above my head, from which I draw down healing energy, and in return, send back discharged toxicity. Based on the reality I grant such a visualization, it works very well. Now, is there really such a pool above my head? What accounts for the appearance of anything, might be a better question. What grants the power of perception itself? What sees, what feels, what dreams? You see, it all comes back to "What/who am I?"

:yo:

Thank you Bob.

Ok.. I can certainly see where this can be of use. For instance if one is doing a focused effort to transform or get rid of stuck energy in one way or the other.
But how would you suggest to apply this when one uses the techniques from Eckhart Tolle.... let everything come to surface, release identification, look at it like one would look at a passing cabriolet with a married couple in it that waves at you and you take of your hat for them ;). This happens in a random order and all the way during the day. It is transforming and releasing stuck energies, but I wouldn't know at which point I have to imagine this energy to be send to the light.
I mean... this technique is transforming, but I find it hard to determin when exactly energy is transformed or released from me, so I can send it somewhere.

Anyway... I told this to my girlfriend (Laperle) and she immediately turned inward and asked all these energies to leave her and fly to the light.... and they did! :)

I think I will just create some sort of ever going open channel that directs these energies to the light then eh? See how that works.
Unless I run into a more proper tool.



I'll do my best for jacob Benevolent crow! love and light!

[Marianne]

Ah, Waky, I didn't know Laperle is your gf ... how lovely that you're both here!

WCBD, thanks so much for the link to that book; I have been pondering ordering it, so I'll take a look for sure.

One, just wondering where you are and what you're doing ... I see now, you're all chilled out over there! Love to you and your family.

AB, have missed your wisdom, very glad to see you. I've been feeling the need lately to dive deeper and figure some things out, so appreciate you all the more. Love to Mazie.

I'm at work, have to go, but sending love to all who posted in the pages back.

JB

[PurpleLama]

We are visiting Playdo this weekend. It's so much fun hanging out with all the little ones swarming around the yard. We send our love to the Here and Now, the Village.

[Jenci]

But how would you suggest to apply this when one uses the techniques from Eckhart Tolle.... let everything come to surface, release identification, look at it like one would look at a passing cabriolet with a married couple in it that waves at you and you take of your hat for them ;).



Hi Waky

I would guess that Tolle would say that the real transformation will happen when you stop trying to change the experience and make it better.

The trapped energies are just you. It's a gift from you, to you, to realise who you are :)


Yes you can direct these energies away but really I would suggest you question where the desire to do so is coming from.

My experience leads me to believe that the sooner you allow what needs to happen happen, then this process of transforming takes on a whole new momentum.






In the end one just rides the wave because one realises that this is how this works

~ Jon Bernie


Jeanette

[benevolentcrow]

Today's mental holiday destination. Everyone is welcome to join me here for a cocktail & swim...

[Eram]

But how would you suggest to apply this when one uses the techniques from Eckhart Tolle.... let everything come to surface, release identification, look at it like one would look at a passing cabriolet with a married couple in it that waves at you and you take of your hat for them ;).

Hi Waky

I would guess that Tolle would say that the real transformation will happen when you stop trying to change the experience and make it better.

The trapped energies are just you. It's a gift from you, to you, to realise who you are :)


Yes you can direct these energies away but really I would suggest you question where the desire to do so is coming from.

My experience leads me to believe that the sooner you allow what needs to happen happen, then this process of transforming takes on a whole new momentum.






In the end one just rides the wave because one realises that this is how this works

~ Jon Bernie


Jeanette


I am not sure that we are on the same page here Jenci.

Does my description of what I do give you the feeling that I am trying to change an experience?
That is not what I feel is happening.
When I do what I say in the piece of text that you quoted, would that not exactly be what Eckhart is teaching?

[Guest]

Hello Villagers.

I am asking for a miracle for my cousin's grand son. I just know how I would feel if I were in her place.

Jacob is two and has be diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia, going through heavy chemo, radiation right now and a bone marrow transplant soon. So scary and sad to see such a cute little guy go through this.

If you can find it in your beautiful hearts to send out the healing energy for Jacob, I would be grateful.

Thanks, Villagers

Carolyn


Loving healing prayers to Jacob and to the family and strength, blessings & much Soulfulness.


Love

Nora

[another bob]

I wouldn't know at which point I have to imagine this energy to be send to the light.
I mean... this technique is transforming, but I find it hard to determin when exactly energy is transformed or released from me, so I can send it somewhere.


Inhale, exhale. Nothing more complicated than that.



Anyway... I told this to my girlfriend (Laperle) and she immediately turned inward and asked all these energies to leave her and fly to the light.... and they did! :)

Yes, always remember, you are a powerful immortal being!

Blessings to you both!

[Jenci]

But how would you suggest to apply this when one uses the techniques from Eckhart Tolle.... let everything come to surface, release identification, look at it like one would look at a passing cabriolet with a married couple in it that waves at you and you take of your hat for them ;).

Hi Waky

I would guess that Tolle would say that the real transformation will happen when you stop trying to change the experience and make it better.

The trapped energies are just you. It's a gift from you, to you, to realise who you are :)


Yes you can direct these energies away but really I would suggest you question where the desire to do so is coming from.

My experience leads me to believe that the sooner you allow what needs to happen happen, then this process of transforming takes on a whole new momentum.






In the end one just rides the wave because one realises that this is how this works

~ Jon Bernie


Jeanette


I am not sure that we are on the same page here Jenci.

Does my description of what I do give you the feeling that I am trying to change an experience?
That is not what I feel is happening.
When I do what I say in the piece of text that you quoted, would that not exactly be what Eckhart is teaching?

Yes, Waky in that piece of text of Tolle you quoted, that is exactly what he is teaching but I was responding to these comments you made which read to me a desire to change the current experience which is not what he is teaching.



How do I learn to send this energy away to a place it can no longer do any harm?



Could you tell us more about this principle and how we can send these energies to the right place?



For instance if one is doing a focused effort to transform or get rid of stuck energy in one way or the other.


We may not be on different pages, I could just be picking up on some very subtle differences :)


Jeanette

[Eram]

Yes, Waky in that piece of text of Tolle you quoted, that is exactly what he is teaching but I was responding to these comments you made which read to me a desire to change the current experience which is not what he is teaching.



How do I learn to send this energy away to a place it can no longer do any harm?



Could you tell us more about this principle and how we can send these energies to the right place?



For instance if one is doing a focused effort to transform or get rid of stuck energy in one way or the other.


We may not be on different pages, I could just be picking up on some very subtle differences :)


Jeanette

Thank you Jenci. Point taken. :)

Confusion still there though...

This is what happens:
In the course of the last 4 months, I Have been exercising with this and there are behaviours that are changing.
Now all of a sudden, my girlfriend start to have some of these behaviours, which she never had before in her life... and we have been talking about this as in... what is going on here?

Traineehuman in the thread from another bob said this:

Basically, once a person has been truly healed of some negative or debilitating energy, that energy itself usually has a little consciousness and life of its own, and seeks to attach itself to some other unfortunate person or living creature -- unless that energy gets "airlifted", so to speak, into a more positive dimension than this one.

these quotes from me are referring to this mechanism that Traineehuman is talking about and which we are maybe experiencing here.

So... In that context, I still don't know how to make cheese of what you say :)
Unless you mean to say that I can just relax into this and don't try to avoid that some energy travels from me to a person close to me?

[ulli]

Hello Villagers.

I am asking for a miracle for my cousin's grand son. I just know how I would feel if I were in her place.

Jacob is two and has be diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia, going through heavy chemo, radiation right now and a bone marrow transplant soon. So scary and sad to see such a cute little guy go through this.

If you can find it in your beautiful hearts to send out the healing energy for Jacob, I would be grateful.

Thanks, Villagers

Carolyn

When these illnesses befall someone as young as that then the lessons are most likely designed
for the parents and extended family members.
Maybe it is just so that your knowledge can be transmitted to your cousin's family. Or maybe the family needs to become more united.
I will most certainly visualize little Jacob returning to full health and hope that whoever read your post will do the same.

[eaglespirit]

Eagle Prayers sent for Jacob!

Hello Here and Nowers...caught up a bit here...beautiful sharings and ongoing upwardness : )

Presently have done repairs and weatherproofing on the Farm on the Sunset Hill for Kenny in CT and am staying there in a trailer for now.

Am doing work on my Nieces and Nephew-in-laws home and also prep work for the 2 car garage for my Sister and Brother-in-law...should have a permit next week for that work and away we goooo...will try to post pics of progress here.

Great to be visiting Family and re-connecting with all there Kids...I have 3 Sisters and 2 Brothers and Husbands and Wives and Nieces and Nephews all pretty much near by.

Looks like I may be heading to Michigan in the fall and possibly back to Peru...Urubamba, to help out with my Friends from Michigan home they are finishing-up in Peru.

Love, Love, Love!!!

[dan33]

I drew a tarot card today. 4 of cups.

http://www.nodntap.net/tarot/images/4_of_cups.jpg

Here is Jan Shepherd's take on it. Just thought I'd share.

The Four of Cups

The Lord of Luxury … is a card with a sting in the tail. Whilst it indicates a great deal of loving affection surrounding us, it also warns that we stand the very real possibility of committing a great sin - that of taking love for granted.

One thing you might have noticed in life is the strange way in which we value the love of people we feel deeply affectionate toward more highly than the love of people we are less attracted to. From my perspective this is an odd, and rather unkind attitude to have.

Love is a mighty and precious emotion. It both creates and destroys with ease. That some-one loves us is a priceless gift from the Universe. Whether we necessarily reciprocate in quite the same way is totally irrelevant. This person's love exists in isolation of our judgement of its importance.

So on a day ruled by the Lord of Pleasure, count the loving feelings that people hold for you. Treasure each and every one of these as the inestimable compliment and treasure it is. Do not stand in judgement. Rather, take a harder look at the people who offer you love, where you may not have sought it. And adjust your view of that love until you respect its worth, even though you may not return it.

Do not fall into the trap of doing things because somebody loves you..simply hold their feelings in the high regard they deserve. And be very grateful and glad to be loved... There are a great many people out there who never experience the warmth of being held dear and special. And that is a very lonely experience.

And if, for the time, you feel as though you are one of those people who is not loved and held dear, then use this day to seek out at least one place where there is an abundance of love, and go to it … everybody deserves to feel that they are not completely alone.

Jan Shepherd
angelpaths.com

Lots of love to us all,
Marianne

4 of Cups. PLACER . Pleasure .

It's enough, i can't with the next. little like, and the great makes angry.
Moon in Cancer.
Activity: 12 to 21 of July.

Pleasure requires the full participation of the senses, mind and acceptance of our ethical code.
Avoid excess.

[dan33]

Hubby is arriving tonight. All the family will be together for at least three weeks. YAY!


YAY! Family time!
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/plush-puppies.JPG

0XGSxeFUwkY

[RunningDeer]

Daniel, I've got this movie. Love it! We are the Creator's of our Universe...




Hubby is arriving tonight. All the family will be together for at least three weeks. YAY!


YAY! Family time!
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/plush-puppies.JPG

0XGSxeFUwkY

[noxon medem]

..
-

watching the olympics, peaceful competition, and fair ..

thinking of this :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5Cvz4PnZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5Cvz4PnZw
( Bruce Springsteen - War (Live 1988) )

&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk
( "War" by Edwin Starr (Original Video - 1969) )

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPqsDU0j2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPqsDU0j2I
( Electric Light Orchestra - Mr Blue Sky )

be well

:)

:fish2:

..
-

[Jenci]

So... In that context, I still don't know how to make cheese of what you say :)
Unless you mean to say that I can just relax into this and don't try to avoid that some energy travels from me to a person close to me?

Yes, just relax into this. :nod:

Your trapped energies are just all your stuff, it's just "you" but it is like a gift from you, to you, to get you to wake up. This transformation of this stuff is an energetic component of your awakening.

Realisation of what we truly are at an intellectual level is one thing but embodiment of that realisation is another. It physically affects the body and at times can be unpleasant.....this is just how it works.


Utlimately you will be guided to do what is right for you but along the way all information and perspectives can be useful, so I will offer this one.


Why would your gift of awakening not be passed on to someone close to you, for them to have the same gift?


I say relax into this but it is not easy. For myself the decision is already made that I will be allow for any experience that needs to arise even if it is unpleasant but to watch that happen to someone close to me is another thing altogether.

The desire to intervene and help them and save them from their experience is strong. I've thought about using my "special powers" to manifest a different experience for them but something far stronger than my desire holds me steadfastly as just a space which just allows the process to happen.

Every time it happens it breaks my heart as I watch the suffering and yet in that heartbreak I feel the joy of knowing the simplicity of all of this is the human experience happening as it should.


In other words, all is well :)

[Eram]

Why would your gift of awakening not be passed on to someone close to you, for them to have the same gift?

I say relax into this but it is not easy. For myself the decision is already made that I will be allow for any experience that needs to arise even if it is unpleasant but to watch that happen to someone close to me is another thing altogether.


Thank you Jenci.

The power of your logic is so strong, yet my emotions are in combat with this logic.
There will be some chewing on this on my behalf.

There is an incredible freedom to experience when I make an imaginary creation of this scenario.....hmmm

[another bob]

Every time it happens it breaks my heart as I watch the suffering and yet in that heartbreak I feel the joy of knowing the simplicity of all of this is the human experience happening as it should

Yes, that is the Big View!

To allow our vision to get this large is so very wonderful and liberating!

Thank you, Sister!

[ulli]

Hubby is arriving tonight. All the family will be together for at least three weeks. YAY!


YAY! Family time!
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/plush-puppies.JPG

0XGSxeFUwkY

My son the artist did not like the ending of the AI movie, so he started on his own version and did it as a comic.
Here is one of the drawings:
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And here is a picture of the doggie we rescued:
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[ulli]

Everything I have ever read by Barbara Hand Clow has resonated with me
so when I heard this interview with Zany Mystic I felt I needed to share it.

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[Kindred]

Just got this via email:

"The text used for the narration of “Passing Through” is part of a speech Serbian scientist and inventor Nicola Tesla delivered in 1893 at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. Though today less known than figures like Edison and Einstein, Tesla was more or less the father of much of our modern technology, since he among other things developed the foundations of the European electrical system based on alternating currents and the principles of wireless radio communication.
At the time he was deeply influenced by the Austrian physicist and philosopher Ernst Mach, believing that the world should be conceived as a whole where everything is interconnected influencing each other. And that energy is a force that runs through everything be it inorganic matter, organisms or human consciousness. According to this line of thought every single action has universal consequences, not unlike what the father of modern chaos theory Edward Lorenz in the 1960’s termed ‘the butterfly effect’."


http://vimeo.com/44193401

I had read this once, a fair time ago, and it resonated with me tremendously.

It Still Does.

Nicola Tesla was a Great Human Being who was disenfranchised by those who originally supported him, all for the $.

When he proved that everything he had made possible could be had for NO $, they 'disposed' of and ignored him.

He was FAR ahead of his time, and this excerpt proves that statement, in multiple ways.

Thank you meeradas!

[ulli]

Since we couldn't get the opening on any of our cable channels in Barbados we resorted to Youtube, and found Mr. Bean

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Wow, they just blocked it. Nothing can be free anymore.

[David Trd1]

11.20 am,tucked up in my campervan in beautiful bushland,listening to birdsong,plotting some good food,a day of tea,research and peace...oh and now i`m smiling again.

[WhiteFeather]

Ulli.. I love Barbara Hand Clows work as well. Wanishi. I often listen to Bringers of the Dawn by Barbara Marciniak as she reads me a wonderful and relaxing bed time wonderous story. Very comforting to say the least.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g5FE3lwSz4

[ulli]

There are some good hints on self observation at this web page.
http://www.gurdjieff-internet.com/article_details.php?ID=242&W=44
One example:
The effort of self-observation not only gives you new information, reveals ways of seeing that were unknown before, but most especially paves the way for a new, deeper, Self to be born. This watchfulness or vigilance -- as long as it remains independent of features, moods, etc -- will generate a recovery of your essential nature which is buried beneath acquired personality. Further, it will lead to the conscious presence of your spiritual nature

[ulli]

Here is the I Am The Walrus song done Walrus style:

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[Jenci]

Here is the I Am The Walrus song done Walrus style:

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Love it, Ulli. It's beautiful.......not at all ugly as it may appear on first sight :)

[1inMany]

Good Morning,

On Facebook, which we use to keep track of our children and grandchildren across the states, I subscribe to the thoughts of Return of the Divine Feminine. This morning as I read, this resonates with me very strongly. It has less to do with Divine Feminine than it does my own spiritual process. This, my friends, is exactly what is happening with me, Here and Now.


The Return of the Divine Feminine
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Our body thirsts for Spirit to inhabit its vessel. The Soul longs for inner-peace, fulfillment and Bliss. The Spirit knows to fully inhabit our physical form, but our mind is not so sure and at times thinks it knows what is going on, yet lives a life that does not reflect it, or its highest potential.

Our emotions often feel too weighed down by past guilt, regrets or wounds and afflictions, which leads us to focus on our hopes and fears, more than what we are capable of creating right here and right NOW...

When we allow Spirit, the Universal Love, Light & Wisdom from our higher self to come in, the body starts to shift and the Soul begins to celebrate the attainment of that which it seeks more than anything else.

The person then begins to notice a purging and a deep process start to happen, as ones mind expands into realms and dimensions far higher than this one and the emotions begin a purification process...

It is important to allow Nature to take its course, rather than fight it unconsciously because of programmings, feelings of unworthiness, ignorance, fear or pre-occupation with Ego.

All of these things exist behind disease, symptoms, mental problems, being led astray and depression. They are what causes us to put up walls, obstacles and barriers and it is what is responsible for the endless dramas, or crisis in our lives.

It is better to focus on facing all of that head on, to then allow the real substance to inhabit its form... It requires forgiveness, compassion, humor, permission to release, and an open mind towards radically shifting perspectives...

As the true Spirit begins to come in, its intelligence knows exactly what to do. We are very adaptable creatures. Humans have an amazing will to survive if they are not pre-occupied with the lower aspects of the ego, mind and emotional body.

We are adjusting to and transmuting the energetics of radiation, chemtrails and heavy metals and insulting belief systems that undermine the union of the M/F and our ability to exist as a healthy global family, in integrity and service to others.

Simply allow your mind to remember what is most important. This is an amazing and necessary transformation process, that lifts one out of any traps, dangers or timelines that are built on enslavement and control.

Allow Spirit to come in - call it back and any lost fragments of the soul, as it has been waiting for us to fulfill its deepest longing. We must kick out and evict anything that resists its presence and the real self from fully inhabiting the physical form.

Love yourself and remember you are the TEMPLE and the greater Being, who gets to initiate this. Any aspect of you that is cynical, doesn't feel up to it, or doesn't believe it - remember that is not the wisdom and truth of who you are, but a part of you that needs the unconditional love of your higher self.

Integrate and gather all aspects into wholeness - nothing in us wants to live in separation and fragments... Let your heart be the meeting point and have an inner - reunion of all the many faces, aspects of higher and lower self, Right and Left Brain, M/F energies…


Much Love,

[ulli]

Right at the end of the whistle he seems to say: "hey, how did I do?"
But she ignored that - simply firing off the next command.
Which he then instantly obeyed.

So are we going to see a new wave of household pets....the walrus fad?

[Jenci]

Why would your gift of awakening not be passed on to someone close to you, for them to have the same gift?

I say relax into this but it is not easy. For myself the decision is already made that I will be allow for any experience that needs to arise even if it is unpleasant but to watch that happen to someone close to me is another thing altogether.


Thank you Jenci.

The power of your logic is so strong, yet my emotions are in combat with this logic.
There will be some chewing on this on my behalf.

There is an incredible freedom to experience when I make an imaginary creation of this scenario.....hmmm

Hi Waky,

There will be conflict. The thoughts and emotions - the mind/ego - doesn't give up easily. One thing that I have discovered in all of this seeking for answers is that there is an amazing amount of information available, particularly with this website. It's diverse and often very contradictory. We have many people sharing their knowledge and experience in different fields of spiritual subjects and that is great. We've got books and videos here doing the same. All of this serves to open us up to infinite possibilities of what we truly are way beyond what our limited conditioned selves would consider reality.

As we process this information it can be confusing particularly as we try to work out which way to go or who is telling us the correct version. So we may go with what resonates with us and then with what works for us because that then validates its authenticity and this is good and may be all we need in this life as our experience.

The way that I see it is all these pieces of information I receive on spirituality are like small pieces of a large jigsaw puzzle. What I have found for me, and I just speak personally for myself, is that when I grasp one of these pieces of information and think 'this is it' then I get stuck. So what I have learned to do is not grasp any of the individual pieces but rather just let the information flow in, neither grasping or disregarding it. I've stopped trying to make sense of it all and in doing that I have found that, in time, the pieces tend to slot into place by themselves and when they do that they reveal a much bigger picture.

The irony in all of this spiritual seeking which I actually find very amusing is that the spiritual journey has been about me discovering that I am the eternal and yet the realisation is that although I realise that and I thought that realisation of that was the purpose of this life, I now realise it's not.

It has become apparent that the purpose of this incarnation for me is to just experience this - the nitty gritty, down to earth, human experience. Rather than being a human realising I am a spiritual being, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

The quote I made of Jon Bernie's earlier "In the end one rides the wave because one realises this is how it works" is apt for me. I'm riding the wave of this human experience and letting it take me rather than me taking it where I think it should go.


I'll post this here to offer this perspective on looking at where the desire to changes things is coming from. It's from an audio dialogue with Adyashanti called Leaping Beyond Fear.



Questioner - My question is – there is only Oneness but Oneness has bothered to manifest, so as long as we are bothering to live in this relative aspect, there are things that one could have... or be... or do in that and I am in a push/pull between thinking that I don’t care about that at all and all I want is the Oneness as it is the highest.... but on the other hand I do work, I do have bills to pay, I do have a husband, I do have a child, desires in the field and they say that acting from the level of Oneness, that one can, through the power of thought manifest the reality that you want?

Adyashanti – It’s not that the Oneness manifested, it’s that the Oneness and the manifestation are One. It’s like the palm of your hand and the back of your hand. One doesn’t manifest the other. They are the same thing. They always both exist. It’s not that one creates the other. It’s a part of one whole; manifest and unmanifest.

Q – I do get that. It’s just that one can spend one’s time doing anything.....?

A – You can spend your time doing whatever you want. What I mean by that is that I don’t care what someone spends their time doing. It doesn’t matter. I don’t see that reality cares what one spends their time doing.

We spend our time doing exactly whatever our consciousness has evolved to do. So if what we are interested in, is the pursuit of happiness through manifestation of the life we want to live and we actually believe it, then that is what we will do.......

...It won’t work....It’s true you can learn to manifest the life you want to live. If you get good at it you can manifest damn near anything you want without lifting much of a finger.

If you really learn the physics behind it, it’s not that complicated. The only difference is you are doing it through manifestation instead of money. I can manifest a Ferrari or I could go out and work hard, get a job to buy one.

If you know the tricks of manifestation you could pretty much manifest it if you know how to do it. It will just show up somehow. But the underlying mindset is the same; I will be happier if I manifest the life I want to live.

I would say that whether you are doing it through money or manifesting it is still coming through the same illusory desire – which is when I have everything I want that will make me happy. You see, it is actually one of the greatest falsities of life on this planet because the same underlying desires and illusions are often always in operation.

Why do you want to manifest in your life?

Q – because I think that if I didn’t have to do all these things, I could devote my time to being spiritual.

A – Oh wonderful, I am so glad you don’t have all the time to devote yourself to being spiritual!! [laugh] because then you just end up creating a spiritual ego. And that is no more real than an unspiritual ego. In fact it is a lot harder to deal with because it looks true.

I understand what you are saying, it is a very common question. I would suggest that the life you have, as it is, is a perfect manifestation of Spirit already and the idea that you have to do something, invest a great amount of time, become a spiritual person to be able to realise that everything is One....the problem is that Oneness isn’t spiritual at all. It has nothing to do with spirituality.

Spirituality is what we create when we don’t realise Oneness. It’s a fog, it’s a hue that we like to exist in. Right.....we become spiritual people. It’s this higher fantasy life.

With Oneness, it’s one. It’s the pre-existing garbage disposal under your sink. It’s your husband, it’s your wife, it’s your kids, it’s the diapers you change when your kids are growing up, it’s the coffee you drink in the morning, it’s the red shirt you are wearing, it’s the tennis shoes you have on, it’s your heart beating.....everything is already the One.

It is not an exclusivity thing. Can if take on that hue? Yes.....but don’t think that this is it. Or that this is even the path to it. You see, your life is actually perfect. All of our lives are actually set up and are already displays of the Universal. What else could they possibly be?

Q – So say someone wanted to attend one of your retreats and they have no money ?

A – Then try to get a scholarship.

Q – Oh ok.

A – Or do even one step better and go “who says I have got to go to a retreat to realise anything?” Get rid of that thought pattern. Jetison that one, it may save you a few bucks ! [laughter]

....As if there is more truth on a retreat than there is here! Or there is in your backyard. As if !

You see these are actually the hidden ideas that we get and then we tend to live our ideas out, but our ideas are an expression of un-unity – that unity is more here, or here or here.....but how could that possibly apply to unity? That there is more or less here, here or here?

It’s our ideas that make it seem this way. Oneness is One wherever you happen to be. It is a display of the God that everybody is seeking.

Q - ...and it will take care of letting others know that it is? So even the desire to offer a teaching, a benediction to other people so that they experience that, in the state of Oneness, Oneness takes care of it itself?

A – I don’t know why I do this [teach]. Truly....I don’t know why. I really have no idea why.

[Eram]

Thank you Jenci,

It's always a great joy to read your posts.

As a matter of fact it's a great joy to read every ones posts here on PA, even the ones I don't enjoy at all, for they too have insights to offer :)
The whirlpool of info and dis info has led me to the realisation that indeed there is no such thing as a truth.
There are only ideas.
I fully agree when you say that one gets stuck when one thinks he finally got the right info to go with. I also observe that I still do this sometimes, but that's OK. I also have many moments were I recognize this and let it go.

You know?

My girlfriend and the children went away to Holland for a few days to visit their grandparents and for the first time in a long time, I had the days for myself. How easy to find inner peace and stillness then.... What a bliss.
When they came back, I immediately understood that this bliss was only working in the absence of the daily family life and that there must have been an illusion attached to that bliss.
I like what Adyashanti has to say about this.

[ulli]

Waky,
Solitude is great when it gives one a break. No matter how much we love our loved ones, especially kids, they always provide situations that mean we are pushed into uncomfortable corners, where we might feel irritation. This can then trigger more feelings, like hey, I'm not really as patient a person as I thought I was.
So the ego has to admit that it was deluding itself. So that is then a moment of truth, this discovery that our self image is greater than our human nature, and that reality adjustments keep bringing us back down to earth.
I found that parents' expectations and even exaggerated praise are often the cause of these inflated self images.
But reality being what it is will make sure that sh!t happens, and so we discover our humanity.
When we can laugh at ourselves, and no longer worry what some imaginary inner voice of mom and dad and peers might have to say, that is when a true breakthrough in our battle with ego has come to pass.

[Jenci]

Thank you Jenci,

It's always a great joy to read your posts.

As a matter of fact it's a great joy to read every ones posts here on PA, even the ones I don't enjoy at all, for they too have insights to offer :)
The whirlpool of info and dis info has led me to the realisation that indeed there is no such thing as a truth.
There are only ideas.
I fully agree when you say that one gets stuck when one thinks he finally got the right info to go with. I also observe that I still do this sometimes, but that's OK. I also have many moments were I recognize this and let it go.

You know?

My girlfriend and the children went away to Holland for a few days to visit their grandparents and for the first time in a long time, I had the days for myself. How easy to find inner peace and stillness then.... What a bliss.
When they came back, I immediately understood that this bliss was only working in the absence of the daily family life and that there must have been an illusion attached to that bliss.
I like what Adyashanti has to say about this.


Thank you Waky. Myself I have needed a lot of solitude over the last two and a half years but I have also found that the peace and bliss found in that solitude is not "it". The true peace is found in the midst of the noise, the pain, the distrations, the frustrations etc and for that, it seems I need other people to push my buttons, lol.

You have made a great discovery there today :)


It's cooler today than it has been but we still have some sun and my wisteria is flowering for the second time this season. Beautiful.
Jeanette

[Guest]

Hey 1inMany I really like the Thoughts from the Divine Feminine and so very true.

Watched a friends 4 month old boy yesterday. Cute sweet baby. She is a new mom.
Baby had a lot of tummy time -he was tired last night and so was I.

Enjoying a good cup of coffee with the big oak tree I sit with every morning, rain or shine.
Beautiful cool clear sunny morning in the forest.


Love

Nora

[RunningDeer]

And here is a picture of the doggie we rescued.
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Calz/TangoHappyBirthday_1.jpg
Tango


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Calz/Tango.jpg

[Ernie Nemeth]

I'm working my as off. Regular 9 to 5 and now more side jobs than I can handle. I'm gonna make myself sick if I don't slow down - I feel it coming....

It is not hard to see that this job has done wonders for me, and it seems like work will not run out with this company for a few years. These last two months has improved my stamina and overall muscular strength. The extreme heat has caused me to sweat for ten hours a day and my body took the opportunity to excrete a great deal of toxins that have built up over the years.

This experience reminds me of the time I stopped driving. That time I was forced to carry my tools and materials on my back to survive and my legs and back got very strong. So much so that now I can bound up the stairs of the condo we're building even better than the twenty year olds can (and I am a thirty year smoker, but you'd never know it). I started this job with the sorest muscles, I'll admit, but I used meditation (every morning) to soothe, strengthen and rejuvinate my muscles and joints - I actually can rid myself of any pain in less than twenty minutes of meditation.

Perhaps the most significant change has been my ability to keep my emotions in check (most times at least) and to foster a positive mental attitude in general. I do not approve of work in this world because of the overcurrent of exploitation that often rides along with it. I do not like being used as a slave, and nothing really has changed in that area - only my attitude toward it. The job is secondary, my work is primary. And I have a whole group of unsuspecting innocents to administer to.

Without much effort on my part, except to always be helpful and understanding (my nickname at work is "Ernesto, The Great"), my coworkers have learned that I have knowledge in many areas beyond electrical and have come asking for my opinion on many issues. Some of these are: the current financial situation, how to cancel all debt, the Freeman movement, spiritual advancement and experiences, even dream analysis (which I'm not that good with, since I don't like to dream, but by opening myself to the Source I can offer bits of wisdom), ongoing political wranglings, and world events from the perspective of truth as apposed to the spin of propaganda, etc.

I'm not saying I have created converts, I am saying I have sown the seed of truth, which is my purpose. And here's the rub - whenever I start on one of these topics I always think of my friends here and try to emulate as much as possible your understandings and advanced wisdom, which I like to think I share to some degree. So thanks for that. I will never forget all you wonderful people - even when I'm worked to the bone and cannot find the energy or time to keep up with all the goings on in the here and now.

And my attitude? What has changed? Well, that's easy. I used to and still do hate this modern world. But what I have realized is that I LOVE LIFE! I love this life. I love the tremendous potential that from time to time peeps through this human construct. I love the children, and the innocent adults, and the trees and flowers and birds. I love the sun and the moon and the stars. I love this earth, our mother. I just love the natural world! I'm in love with life! I wish we could live in a world where I could love our society as well - and that is my purpose. To use truth to plant the seeds of a future world where I can honestly say - I love this modern world and everything in it. That is my dream and my ambition and my goal. I have no other.

I march into the future with no fear and full of the verve that is the signature of all life.

hugs

[another bob]

So what I have learned to do is not grasp any of the individual pieces but rather just let the information flow in, neither grasping or disregarding it. I've stopped trying to make sense of it all and in doing that I have found that, in time, the pieces tend to slot into place by themselves and when they do that they reveal a much bigger picture.

The irony in all of this spiritual seeking which I actually find very amusing is that the spiritual journey has been about me discovering that I am the eternal and yet the realisation is that although I realise that and I thought that realisation of that was the purpose of this life, I now realise it's not.

It has become apparent that the purpose of this incarnation for me is to just experience this - the nitty gritty, down to earth, human experience. Rather than being a human realising I am a spiritual being, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.


Great post, Sister! Some fundamental wisdom, Thank you!



"Spirituality is what we create when we don’t realise Oneness. It’s a fog, it’s a hue that we like to exist in. Right.....we become spiritual people. It’s this higher fantasy life."

Excellent! Could be offered at every forum thread here about "What is the right spiritual path?"



Adyashanti – Or do even one step better and go “who says I have got to go to a retreat to realise anything?” Get rid of that thought pattern. Jetison that one, it may save you a few bucks ! [laughter]

....As if there is more truth on a retreat than there is here! Or there is in your backyard. As if !


I've mentioned before that, when I moved from the East Coast back to California in 2000, I used to attend Adya's gatherings, based on a friend's introduction. At the time, there were only about a dozen folks or so who'd show up in Palo Alto, so it was rather intimate and cozy, with a lot of opportunity for sharing perspectives and so forth.

Over time, his reputation as a good speaker grew, and a community began gathering around him, and so he eventually moved his show to a bigger venue in Berkeley, and it became rather formalized, with several hundred attendees, and a woman stationed at a table by the entrance selling tapes and asking for a $10 "donation" to get in. I didn't mind paying, but once, just for research purposes, I told the woman I didn't have the $10 to "donate". She said I couldn't get in then, so I raised a bit of rukus about false claims and they let me pass.

At any rate, once I was re-united with Mazie again, I took her with me for the Sunday Satsangs, and we had a lot of laughs in the process. After a few months of attendance, including one retreat, we were sitting in the audience one Sunday morning, and both of us had the simultaneous realization that we didn't need to be there at all. We looked at each other, began laughing, and then both of us spurted out at the same time, "We can do this at home!"

We then got up and walked out in the middle of the show, went to a nearby restaurant for a nice breakfast, and have never been to anything like that again, or bothered with any teachers' road shows.

:yo:

[Mark]

We then got up and walked out in the middle of the show, went to a nearby restaurant for a nice breakfast, and have never been to anything like that again, or bothered with any teachers' road shows.

An enlightened perspective, that. Adya and others do great work for many, but at a certain point, you realize that you "already know all this", have access to the same sources they have access to, and the need for that kind of validation is no longer necessary.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Yes, I've held this same notion throughout my journeys. Even in the midst of a retreat I'd have this "detached" part of myself that would reserve judgement.

I respect a master and learn what I can but my path is my own and rituals, I've experienced, often tarnish the radiance of any truth.

Authority is always with the self, through direct connection with the Source. My truth is unique on account of my unique perspective.

Could that be another way of saying, all is holy?

Everywhere and everything is holy, marked with the divine stamp of creation.

[Mark]

Yes, I've held this same notion throughout my journeys. Even in the midst of a retreat I'd have this "detached" part of myself that would reserve judgement.

I respect a master and learn what I can but my path is my own and rituals, I've experienced, often tarnish the radiance of any truth.

Authority is always with the self, through direct connection with the Source. My truth is unique on account of my unique perspective.

Could that be another way of saying, all is holy?

Everywhere and everything is holy, marked with the divine stamp of creation.

I think so, Mr. Nemeth. I still watch Adya, Tolle and others. I nod and agree with their points, I recognize their experiences as my own. The space these individuals have reached is not a space that is unreachable for many, if the work is done, or not done, depending upon where you are at in your own personal evolutionary growth.

In that light, the perspective you put forth is also enlightened: "All is holy".

My impression of the matter also agrees with yours, in that it is indeed all good, or all is well. No matter where anybody is or what they are experiencing, it is exactly what they are supposed to be doing, they are exactly where they are supposed to be, in that moment. Where we are is where we have "brought ourselves" by our thoughts, words and actions, so how can we be anyplace else besides where we are supposed to be?

The extreme aspect of this perspective is when bad things happen. Lost jobs, lost relationships, mistakes, regrets. Are they supposed to have happened exactly the way they did? Is there really a lesson involved?

In the pain of the moment and even longer, it's easy to resist the idea that everything has meaning and what we go through is meant to happen. But, hopefully, we all arrive at a space in our lives where we can look back on whatever happened and recognize how it took us from one space and place to another and that we actually did learn something about ourselves and the world by going through it, no matter how negative or traumatic we perceived it to be at the time.

Through time and with the necessary growth, it becomes possible to make that space between the lesson and the understanding lesser and lesser. Eventually, one reaches a space where peace and equinimity reign, as all experiences are understood for what they are in the Now moment of living them. At that point, there is no barrier, no separation between the experience and the experiencer.

That is when the absolute recognition that all is holy can indeed be internalized and lived 100% of the time.

[Jenci]

So what I have learned to do is not grasp any of the individual pieces but rather just let the information flow in, neither grasping or disregarding it. I've stopped trying to make sense of it all and in doing that I have found that, in time, the pieces tend to slot into place by themselves and when they do that they reveal a much bigger picture.

The irony in all of this spiritual seeking which I actually find very amusing is that the spiritual journey has been about me discovering that I am the eternal and yet the realisation is that although I realise that and I thought that realisation of that was the purpose of this life, I now realise it's not.

It has become apparent that the purpose of this incarnation for me is to just experience this - the nitty gritty, down to earth, human experience. Rather than being a human realising I am a spiritual being, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.


Great post, Sister! Some fundamental wisdom, Thank you!



"Spirituality is what we create when we don’t realise Oneness. It’s a fog, it’s a hue that we like to exist in. Right.....we become spiritual people. It’s this higher fantasy life."

Excellent! Could be offered at every forum thread here about "What is the right spiritual path?"



Adyashanti – Or do even one step better and go “who says I have got to go to a retreat to realise anything?” Get rid of that thought pattern. Jetison that one, it may save you a few bucks ! [laughter]

....As if there is more truth on a retreat than there is here! Or there is in your backyard. As if !


I've mentioned before that, when I moved from the East Coast back to California in 2000, I used to attend Adya's gatherings, based on a friend's introduction. At the time, there were only about a dozen folks or so who'd show up in Palo Alto, so it was rather intimate and cozy, with a lot of opportunity for sharing perspectives and so forth.

Over time, his reputation as a good speaker grew, and a community began gathering around him, and so he eventually moved his show to a bigger venue in Berkeley, and it became rather formalized, with several hundred attendees, and a woman stationed at a table by the entrance selling tapes and asking for a $10 "donation" to get in. I didn't mind paying, but once, just for research purposes, I told the woman I didn't have the $10 to "donate". She said I couldn't get in then, so I raised a bit of rukus about false claims and they let me pass.

At any rate, once I was re-united with Mazie again, I took her with me for the Sunday Satsangs, and we had a lot of laughs in the process. After a few months of attendance, including one retreat, we were sitting in the audience one Sunday morning, and both of us had the simultaneous realization that we didn't need to be there at all. We looked at each other, began laughing, and then both of us spurted out at the same time, "We can do this at home!"

We then got up and walked out in the middle of the show, went to a nearby restaurant for a nice breakfast, and have never been to anything like that again, or bothered with any teachers' road shows.

:yo:


That's a great story, Bob. There was a time I would have been very jealous that you were so close and able to get to see Adya. At the beginning of 2011 I found out he was making his first trip to London. So I checked his website frequently looking for the details and as soon as they were up I booked my place. I was really excited but had many months to wait.

Anyway the day finally came in August and I went off to London for the day. When I got to the building there was a huge queue outside and I got to speak to people in the line who were equally as excited and looking forward to the day.

So we go into the hall and all the seats are full and then Adya walks in and starts us off with a meditation for 30 minutes. Then he began speaking and immediately the thought came to me "what am I doing here?".

In all waiting for the event to take place the person who needed to go had fallen away.

I laughed to myself.

I even bought a signed copy of his Falling into Grace book. A year later it is still unread. :)

[another bob]

I even bought a signed copy of his Falling into Grace book. A year later it is still unread. :)

A great story too, Sister!

I know that, here in the States, Amazon will buy back books, even if they didn't originally come from them. You could sell them the book back and then buy a popsicle-making kit -- they're cool! :-)

[Mark]

I know that, here in the States, Amazon will buy back books, even if they didn't originally come from them. You could sell them the book back and then buy a popsicle-making kit -- they're cool! :-)

Now THAT is money well spent!

Although I'm supposed to be giving up sugar, I suppose you could use natural juices instead!

Sira and I have started doing Crossfit (http://cavemanstrong.com/), a workout program and chain of gyms across the US and Canada that emphasizes "ol skool" workouts, a lot of heavy weights, sprinting, rope climbing, pull ups.

As a result of that, we are now on the Paleo-diet (http://paleodietlifestyle.com/), which I find benign enough, as the only real changes to what I already do is no grains, no processed foods and no sugars outside of fruit. The past two years of being with her have totally changed my diet anyway, so this is just another progression. Taken with the 3-times a week jogging, 2-4 kilometers each outing, it's been really good getting back in shape after so long being a couch potato. Still a ways to go to gently rehabilitate my body, but it is nice to go in the closet and wear clothes that you haven't been able to wear in, oh, way too long to admit in public!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17567&d=1343506048

[another bob]

Still a ways to go to gently rehabilitate my body, but it is nice to go in the closet and wear clothes that you haven't been able to wear in, oh, way too long to admit in public!

Well Brother, that was my problem too. Mazie loves to bake, which is fine for her, given that she is down to 99 lbs. and needs to gain. It's just that the stuff she bakes is so good it's easy to eat too much, so I was adding more weight than I needed to survive Bill's coming hypothesis. Consequently, she bought some popsicle kits and now she purees mangos, strawberries, blueberries, cherries and limes, pineapple, peaches, and whatever other fresh fruits are available, and creates yummy frozen treats that totally satisfy the craving.


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[Carmody]

Yes, I've held this same notion throughout my journeys. Even in the midst of a retreat I'd have this "detached" part of myself that would reserve judgement.

I respect a master and learn what I can but my path is my own and rituals, I've experienced, often tarnish the radiance of any truth.

Authority is always with the self, through direct connection with the Source. My truth is unique on account of my unique perspective.

Could that be another way of saying, all is holy?

Everywhere and everything is holy, marked with the divine stamp of creation.

with a centered perspective, one might say that, yes. But, a bit less evolution would have one assigning too much worth to the self.

Which brings me to the point of my post. I just realized why I don't like much of what is in country music.

Too much of it's underlying character.....is Narcissistic.

[another bob]

I just realized why I don't like much of what is in country music.

Too much of it's underlying character.....is Narcissistic.


True of most pop music, though there are always exceptions:



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[RunningDeer]

We then got up and walked out in the middle of the show, went to a nearby restaurant for a nice breakfast, and have never been to anything like that again, or bothered with any teachers' road shows.

An enlightened perspective, that. Adya and others do great work for many, but at a certain point, you realize that you "already know all this", have access to the same sources they have access to, and the need for that kind of validation is no longer necessary.

Rahkyt, digging your new picture and my apologies to your lady friend if i've offended.
Tee, hee. :focus:

[another bob]

OK, one more . . . maybe y'all can come up with another . . .


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[Mark]

Rahkyt, digging your new picture and my apologies to your lady friend if i've offended.
Tee, hee. :focus:

LOL TY WCBD, Sira plays around and says she's not going to let me go outside alone anymore in a month or two but I say it'll be deep Fall then and we'll all be wearing long clothes then anyway so it's ok.

These crossfit cult members we're in with now - and some DO consider it a cult because they're so hardcore about their training - have amazing bodies. Not too bulky, not to striated or cut, just right.

We're just tryin' to 'get back right' again and reflect the best form that we can considering our ages and health.

Tai-chi looks fun too! :cool:

[astrid]

Weird.
Of late i write these long posts and then delete them,
not sure what's going on with that.

[Marianne]

Of late i write these long posts and then delete them,

Astrid! I wish you would post them. :)

[benevolentcrow]

I was besotted and smitten at the Barn House Vintage Event! Amazing stuff!
There were probably a thousand people in line to get in. One of the top 5 Vintage Events in the Country! Too Cool! So much fun!

[Eram]

True of most pop music, though there are always exceptions:



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I absolutely looove country music when it's written and played with positive intend.
This song brought tears to my eyes.

I reminded me of the time that I lived in LA for 3 months.
Don't have much nice to say about LA, but we (The girl with whom I was then and me) did a tour through Arizona, Utah, Nevada and California (San Fransisco,Berkely), which was the nicest trip ever.
We rented a car (a real American gas slurper) and played country music all the way.

There is so much to tell about the US these days. The land of the corrupted souls, nest of the illuminati etc etc, but my experiences from that trip showed me a completely other perspective.
The people we met during that trip had so much positiveness in them. They where curious to who we where and what we had to tell. They showed friendliness, offered help when needed. Ahh... that was a good trip.
There's so much positiveness in the US. People who have a free spirit. Willing to explore and create!
There is a huge gap between what you can read about the US in the media (alternative and mass)... the picture that arises about the people there, and what you experience when you travel there these days.
I wish that there will be opportunity to do such a voyage once again sometimes.

edit to add:

here is one talented girl from Holland

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[another bob]

There's so much positiveness in the US. People who have a free spirit. Willing to explore and create!
There is a huge gap between what you can read about the US in the media (alternative and mass)... the picture that arises about the people there, and what you experience when you travel there these days.
I wish that there will be opportunity to do such a voyage once again sometimes.

Glad you had a chance to meet the people, Brother! I've been back and forth across this land, and all over the globe in my time, and I generally found that people everywhere are pretty much the same -- they all want to love and be loved, to be free and happy, and they are basically good and generous. Politics and religion divide people, unfortunately, and make them believe stupid lies about themselves and each other, as well as about the nature of existence.

Some say that humans are just sneaky and dangerous animals, but that is not so, since most have a light being soul within them that just needs to step up and take responsibility for the human's behavior. If the humans allow this "Higher Self" to guide them, all the greed, envy, hatred, fear, and intolerance would be rendered obsolete. I guess it just takes time for folks to understand this, and until then, there will continue to be suffering.

The suffering itself will eventually motivate people to snap out of the false gods' spells and dark enchantments, and find out who and what they really are. In the meantime, since we're on the subject of country music, here's a lullabye for those weary of the struggle:



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[astrid]

Of late i write these long posts and then delete them,

Astrid! I wish you would post them. :)

Believe me you don't, lol

I'm still trying to formulate the energetics into a pattern/ shape that is recognizable, and can then be
translated into human-ish linguistics.
Yes i know, I'm talking gibberish, but that's why i have been deleting things,
I re read it and seriously i have no idea WTF I'm going on about, lol.

sign of the times maybe.
I mean normally it's a struggle for me to articulate to others, now it seems i can't
even communicate coherently to myself, lol.

Quite possibly, the dimension I'm working in/with/ through, right now has some unfamiliar patterns,
so its a bit like having to learn a new language, or something.
Dunno.

It's interesting not knowing things though,
i kind of like that feeling of free falling , i must say.,.

[Eram]

[snip]
I'm still trying to formulate the energetics into a pattern/ shape that is recognizable, and can then be
translated into human-ish linguistics.
Yes i know, I'm talking gibberish, but that's why i have been deleting things,
I re read it and seriously i have no idea WTF I'm going on about, lol.
[snip
It's interesting not knowing things though,
i kind of like that feeling of free falling , i must say.,.

A feeling I know all too well Astrid.
I have a condition (I always forget the name for it) where I see pictures to whatever I'm thinking about, but the pictures seem to have no relation what so ever to what I'm thinking.
For instance: When the potatoes in the over are done, I see them in my mind with pointy spikes sticking out of them. Or all the days of the week have a specific colour to them etc.
When I'm searching myself for what is going on in me, I can see all the patterns and different energy flows. For me it's easy to remember, but when I try to explain to someone else what I just discovered, I find it very hard to put it into words.

But... I just started experimenting with something called the body talk system (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47234-Body-Talk-System).
It is a tapping procedure which is supposed to let the different lobes of the brain converge and start working better together.
I've been doing this for a about 10 days now and I'm really blown away with the results.
Memory improves, fears are reduced, thinking capacity improves and more.

When I talked to my dad on the phone a few days back, he asked me if I perhaps swallowed a library ... need I say more?

Well.. not that I believe that you would need it Astrid... just wanted to share about this with whomever it may be of interest to.

[ulli]

Thanks for that link, Waky. I would have missed the Body Talk thread if you had not brought it here.
This stuff could benefit everyone I know.

[RunningDeer]

Steve Rother shares encouraging topics such as: energy wave metaphor, humanity’s heart vibration is rising therefore assisting on Mother Earth changes, Higher Self, feeling empathy for others on the planet, free choice to leave planet, human love vs. Love, fear based emotions, conditional love, etc.

PS Full disclosure - Steve channels what he calls "The Group". It’s too uplifting not to share just because it’s channeled. If it doesn’t resonate in the heart, please toss.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKi6yrXwL_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKi6yrXwL_4

All that in the first 9 minutes. Excuse me....and while I go listen to the rest. (just couldn't wait to pass along.) :wave:

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/Deer-popcorn.GIF

“Ascension in the past has meant someone who passes on and raises into heaven’, it now means something totally different. It is an enlightenment vibration measurement where the biological human is able to hold the entire vibration and energy of his entity.”

The information from the vid rings true on many levels for me. When I see from the greater perspective rather than from the literal word, a lot unfolds. I've been able to leave "stuff" behind that through reflection, meditation, and therapies, and self-help books could not begin to unravel.

I know ALL is within. 100% within. For me, hearing outside information are triggers (gifts) to what is already known but forgotten. That's how I view the few channel folks that I listen too.

[benevolentcrow]

Thanks for that link, Waky. I would have missed the Body Talk thread if you had not brought it here.
This stuff could benefit everyone I know.

Body talk is one of the few Dr's visits I have had over the last few years. Sid and Amber Wolf who both have PhDs and work with Lee Carrol (Kryon) switched from conventional medicine to alternative medicine and body talk is one form they practice. Benefited greatly from the experience!

WCBD thanks for the link to Steve Rother, I have listened to him for years and have lost touch with his program as of late. Glad to listen to him again.

http://www.lightworker.com/

[Mark]

Steve Rother shares encouraging topics such as: energy wave metaphor, humanity’s heart vibration is rising therefore assisting on Mother Earth changes, Higher Self, feeling empathy for others on the planet, free choice to leave planet, human love vs. Love, fear based emotions, conditional love, etc.

All the most important stuff. Everybody talking about these things takes on the higher vibratory nature of the topics.

I find it so much more important to represent positivity rather than negativity. To see the best and highest potentiality rather than the worst and lowest.

Even in the face of ignorance.

I don't know much about "Kryon", but the topics mentioned are certainly worthy of attention.

[RunningDeer]

"The Tar Pit," by: Lee Carroll http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/biker-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Imagine yourself, along with many other human beings, in a tar pit covered with tar, dirty from head to foot, unable to move quickly from place to place because the tar is so thick. As you plod from place to place, you become used to this condition, and year after year your life is lived in this fashion along with others. Like gravity of the planet, the encumbrance of the tar is simply accepted - a fact of life for all. This is your imagined state (you image that's just how it is).

Suddenly but quietly, you are offered a gift from God. It's a "magic" tool that cleans your body and keeps it clean even while you are in the tar! Like an energy field, it actually repels the tar as you walk through it. You accept the gift and the work that must go with it, and you begin to learn how to use it. Slowly you change. To others you are beginning to stand out, you are different - fresh and clean, while they are moving around you, still in the dark tar. You begin to realize how you have co-created this for yourself, but you also realize that it was a very personal gift, so you say nothing.

Now, do you think the others around you will ignore you as you walk freely without the tar touching you or encumbering your feet? They will watch the tar touch your body and never soil you. What do you think will happen? Ah! Watch! THEY are about to change! The first thing that will happen is that wherever you walk, there will be space, for they will clear the way for you. The second thing that will happen is that they will ask you how such a thing is possible. And when they find the "magic" tool from God, each of them will begin using it for themselves, and more humans will also be "clean" - each person creating for him or herself personally, just as you did for yourself.

As you silently continue your life over a period of time, look at what is happening to those around you! More than half will be "clean" and unencumbered by the tar. Stop and think about what has really happened. You have not evangelized your gift or asked any of these people to change for you, and yet they changed anyway. This is how the result of just the one creates for the many!

http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bye-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)




Steve Rother shares encouraging topics such as: energy wave metaphor, humanity’s heart vibration is rising therefore assisting on Mother Earth changes, Higher Self, feeling empathy for others on the planet, free choice to leave planet, human love vs. Love, fear based emotions, conditional love, etc.

All the most important stuff. Everybody talking about these things takes on the higher vibratory nature of the topics.

I find it so much more important to represent positivity rather than negativity. To see the best and highest potentiality rather than the worst and lowest.

Even in the face of ignorance.

I don't know much about "Kryon", but the topics mentioned are certainly worthy of attention.

[CD7]

Here and Now im testing...testing my post :) Was having posting problems and unable to post...

[CD7]

LOL my Big mouth is back online!.......Bread and circuses...bread and circuses


Love to everyone and the best to all going through their challenges :love:

[Mark]

As you silently continue your life over a period of time, look at what is happening to those around you! More than half will be "clean" and unencumbered by the tar. Stop and think about what has really happened. You have not evangelized your gift or asked any of these people to change for you, and yet they changed anyway. This is how the result of just the one creates for the many!

OK, WCBD, you didn't comment along with this but you used my quote so I'm guessing you are understanding where I am right now mentally because you've been paying attention. THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. Or the top, whichever is better. That story is exactly what I needed to read right this moment. I want to say so much but I'll leave it at that. Bless ...

[ulli]

Costa Rica and Panama are being hit by severe weather right now. There have been three days of heavy rain and our valley is cut off by landslides. There are two cat sitters living in our home and they are not used to living next to a roaring river, and they say they are scared right now. But our cats are dry, staying indoors and sleeping all day.
There is more heavy rain on the way, and it looks like Panama City is feeling the brunt at this moment.

[Marianne]

Costa Rica and Panama are being hit by severe weather right now. There have been three days of heavy rain and our valley is cut off by landslides. There are two cat sitters living in our home and they are not used to living next to a roaring river, and they say they are scared right now. But our cats are dry, staying indoors and sleeping all day.
There is more heavy rain on the way, and it looks like Panama City is feeling the brunt at this moment.

Calming prayers of peace and safety to Costa Rica and Panama.

[astrid]

Feeling Blah tonight, my dogs are also being odd,
Ozzie wanted double dinner tonight and now hes all clingy,
I wonder what's around the corner?

[Ernie Nemeth]

I remember an early grade school buddy, Peter was his name if I recall correctly. He was the first to fascinate me with his, to me at the time, esoteric (or beyond my imagining) knowledge. This one day he introduced me to the tesseract. He drew a representation of a four dimensional object, a hypercube. Remember, we were like ten or eleven years old. First he drew the four dimensional hypercube, or tesseract, and it looked like a jumble of intersecting lines - gibberish to my eyes. Then he drew another diagram where he unfolded the tessearact into its three dimensional components - six cubes. Still, my eyes and my young brain didn't get it. So he unfolded one of the components into the two dimensional "cross" of six squares that represents the three dimensional cube.

I remember the intellectual fire that exploded in my mind as I grasped this notion. A four dimensional object rendered in three dimensions on a two dimensional medium! It literally blew my mind...

Been having "tesseract" synchronicities of late is why I'm ruminating... The unfolding of a higher dimensional reality upon a lower dimension of reality.
Could this be what is going on, what we are feeling and witnessing around us?

(The video made me think of it when the guy said the water recedes before a tsunami. Just like I imagine an unfolding would require a moment or period of receding impressions from the old paradigm before the new reality washes over the awareness and renders the old to the abyss of forgotten half-truths.)

Just a thought...

edit: found this utube vid about it that's kind of interesting.

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sorry to edit again - took a while to access the correct memory train - my schoolmate's name is Denis Fletcher.

[Lettherebelight]

Feeling Blah tonight, my dogs are also being odd,
Ozzie wanted double dinner tonight and now hes all clingy,
I wonder what's around the corner?

Thanks for this post, Astrid! For some reason, it tickled a funny bone and I laughed out loud. Hope you and doggies are well!

[RunningDeer]

Feeling Blah tonight, my dogs are also being odd,
Ozzie wanted double dinner tonight and now hes all clingy,
I wonder what's around the corner?

Wolfie acted strangely yesterday, too. He kept wanting to go out as if he was guarding his little worn out patch of grass. He let out little growls of fierceness just in case anyone was there to catch it. And he wandered the few rooms we live in occasionally barking and jabbing at the dog in the mirror hidden in the corner.

Rahkyt, I've been following the "WTF!!! Racist emoticon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47916-WTF----Racist-emoticon&p=529489#post529489)" thread. I checked this morning and another three pages added.


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[RunningDeer]

(The video made me think of it when the guy said the water recedes before a tsunami. Just like I imagine an unfolding would require a moment or period of receding impressions from the old paradigm before the new reality washes over the awareness and renders the old to the abyss of forgotten half-truths.)

Just a thought...

edit: found this utube vid about it that's kind of interesting.

9DoSqeJNG74

Enjoyed this vid, Ernie. He reminds me of this teenager's vid. http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)
I did like that metaphor of the water receding by Steve Rother. It was an 'ah-ha understanding'.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I

[Carmody]

fear, regarding memory function and response - two types (fooled again and won't get fooled again). (http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-07-reveals-mental.html)

[Mark]

Rahkyt, I've been following the "WTF!!! Racist emoticon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47916-WTF----Racist-emoticon&p=529489#post529489)" thread. I checked this morning and another three pages added.

Some of the responses on those 3 pages are actually pretty thoughtful, while others are unfortunate but indicative of where people are, so, I suppose, it's all good. I've presented an alternative viewpoint for people to take or leave. Our participation in PA is a public record. Everything we write is there for the world to see and reflective of who we are at the moment. I respect people's differences but sometimes the amount of self-righteousness and confidence people display while supporting beliefs based upon a lack of compassion or knowledge of the facts is astounding. Being ignorant of many things myself, I try to communicate in an understanding manner. I hope it is successful and that those who are reading in anonymity get what they can by being exposed to both sides of the discussion.

[ViralSpiral]

Won't get fooled again.



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May.......

http://allthemanswers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/penguin-gif.gif

[Calz]

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[ViralSpiral]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2ngu52r.jpg

[Calz]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-lil-red-riding-cat.jpg

[Carmody]

Won't get fooled again.


May.......

http://allthemanswers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/penguin-gif.gif

The article's research does show that one of the, if not the most important components of the 'PTB' getting what they want is the the direct need to remain firmly out of the spotlight, out of the discussion, and to remain as hidden as possible.

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Like the mechanisms of money (finances) and politics, the depiction in the video, of war, is one of disconnection to the origins of the issue, disconnection to the mechanics of the machine. Interestingly enough, soldiers are trained (or desired to be) in this specific way. To be unaware of the greater picture, with regard to being capable of performing their desired function.

Which brings one to the statement or saying that the "father of public relations" (more like 'father of propaganda'), Edward Bernays, was known for saying... 'Don't be Stupid' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays)

[ulli]

Ulli hugging her favorite bears:
(lookie, this one even has a spiral on the back)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xpx4nyYjE1w/TahYPwbHAXI/AAAAAAAAByg/0n-x6aS5t6c/s1600/Bear+Hug.jpg

welcome welcome you are.....

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[another bob]

Misdirection:


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Won't get fooled again.



Ixnay and a disciple once went camping in the Lumenurium Desert, and after a day of exploring, found a suitable camp spot, set up their tent, enjoyed a modest meal and some star gazing, and finally turned in for the night.

Some hours later, Ixnay woke the disciple.

"My Friend, look up at the sky now and tell me what you see."

The disciple replied: "I see a wondrous celestial display filled with millions of stars."

"What does that tell you?" asked Ixnay.

The disciple pondered for a minute.

"Astronomically speaking, it tells me that there are countless galaxies and trillions of stars, circled by planets more numerous than we can hope to measure.

Astrologically, it tells me that Saturn is in Libra, which could be a time for taking relationships more seriously.

Time wise, it appears to be approximately a quarter past three, but then again, time is a relative mental construct with no inherent reality, save for that which we grant it, based on our own particular subjective filters and conditioning.

Theologically, it might be inferred that Yah the Lord Creator is all powerful and we are small and insignificant in contrast, and consequently could not even begin to fathom the Divine Plan that has brought forth this magnificent manifestation.

Meteorologically, it seems we will have a beautiful day tomorrow, with clear skies and pleasant temperatures.

Beyond all of that, I am finally beginning to recognize that these perceptions, and even our very appearance here, are nothing but random, transitory, and non-binding modifications of consciousness Itself.

Moreover, they are inherently without meaning, except for the meaning we may arbitrarily attribute to them -- again, based on dreamy fantasies of interpretation.”

Ixnay listened, but remained silent.

Finally, the disciple asked, "What does it tell you, Master?"

Ixnay first looked up, then to the left, then to the right, then back to the disciple, and then, laughing, replied:

"It tells me that someone has stolen our tent!"


:yo:

[Calz]

Yeah well someone has to keep up with Bob ...


http://www.funnypictures24.com/fp/funny_animated_pictures/funny_animated_picture_86.gif

[ViralSpiral]

The article's research does show that one of the, if not the most important components of the 'PTB' getting what they want is the the direct need to remain firmly out of the spotlight, out of the discussion, and to remain as hidden as possible.


Unfortunately, this music is not available in Lala-land :(

Yes, thanks for the article Carmody. I recently listened to a doccie on consciousness (I think it was Sam Harris) in which he mentions that we "sense" fear a few seconds before it happens. Scared meeee :happy:



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[Calz]

There are ways of putting them in the "spotlight" ...


http://awesomefail.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/law-enforcement-fail.jpg

[RunningDeer]

“I respect people's differences but sometimes the amount of self-righteousness and confidence people display while supporting beliefs based upon a lack of compassion or knowledge of the facts is astounding.”

Hi Rahkyt,

It was a loss for the students, staff and administration where you taught, but we gained a teacher in the greater arena. Gifted with compassion, patience, and knowledge is a recipe for others to awaken.

There are times where I’ve watch myself spiral into silence and sadness and numbness because of someone’s false perceptions. One of the things I am learning from you is the “grace under fire”. So I’ll use this opportunity to say thank you.http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/big-smile2-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)




Rahkyt, I've been following the "WTF!!! Racist emoticon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47916-WTF----Racist-emoticon&p=529489#post529489)" thread. I checked this morning and another three pages added.

Some of the responses on those 3 pages are actually pretty thoughtful, while others are unfortunate but indicative of where people are, so, I suppose, it's all good. I've presented an alternative viewpoint for people to take or leave. Our participation in PA is a public record. Everything we write is there for the world to see and reflective of who we are at the moment. I respect people's differences but sometimes the amount of self-righteousness and confidence people display while supporting beliefs based upon a lack of compassion or knowledge of the facts is astounding. Being ignorant of many things myself, I try to communicate in an understanding manner. I hope it is successful and that those who are reading in anonymity get what they can by being exposed to both sides of the discussion.

[RunningDeer]

There are ways of putting them in the "spotlight" ...


http://awesomefail.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/law-enforcement-fail.jpg

It took me a few seconds, but I got it. The scarf man must be on that one gallon a day distilled water program. Hey, when ya gotta go, ya gotta go. Just saying' http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/yapyapyap-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)



"Is that him? "
"Yup, yup, shhh!"
"He's back?"
"Leave'em alone. Leave'em alone!"
"Go fetch his slippers, will ya."
"Hi Calz." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/wet-kiss-smiley.gif?1292867699


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/duckling-climbing-sidewalk.JPG

[Guest]

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs8/PRE/i/2005/346/5/8/Blue_Spirals_by_iTab.jpg

Rahkyt,

Appreciate who you are.

Recently spent 2 weeks on a Native American Indian reservation in the Northern Plains participating in ceremonies, all of it was in good prayer for all beings of the Cosmos and for our precious earth, with many mixed blood and full blood Native Americans. I'm a mixed blood. Spirit definitely carried me through it all.
My ideal for me is to do my best to walk my life like tthat in every present moment.

For the first 15 years of my life many, many beliefs systems were imposed/indoctrinated/brain washed on me by family and those in my immediate environment. It drove me nuts.

One of the groups in my immediate environment was the Western KKK. They were all very, very wealthy. Started and invested in large corporations.... no tattoos and I never heard one reference to or racial slurs -not ever. But this is what they did do.... anyone who was not what they considered, as pure, was treated as a none entity -non-existent.

I was pre-teen early teen when I first discovered this and began my journey into deprogramming my-self. It began with the question, "if human beings have a Soul and a Spirit how can they be a none entity?" Silently.
When I was able to I got as far far away as I could.

Our beautiful earth and the Cosmos are so full of many many highly intelligent, Soulful diverse beings sometimes it takes my breath away.

We are all related

Love

Nora

[astrid]

Magpies calling in the dawn here and now
But seriously need more sleep
Was hit overnight by a wave of sadness
that is sweetly lingering on
Had a few warnings already that it's time
soon to dance again with the shadow
Looking forward to what that may reveal
The light has become dim of late and that
contrast always has its own way of adding
brilliance

Too much light without any darkness is
such a bore not to mention dishonest

Besides which so many luminous treasures
are stashed in the shadow closet anyone
that borks at this work is missing out
big time

[RunningDeer]

It's the squiggly dance for ViralSpiral! http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bubble-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/20052777.GIF


http://i50.tinypic.com/2ngu52r.jpg

[Carmody]

Magpies calling in the dawn here and now
But seriously need more sleep
Was hit overnight by a wave of sadness
that is sweetly lingering on
Had a few warnings already that it's time
soon to dance again with the shadow
Looking forward to what that may reveal
The light has become dim of late and that
contrast always has its own way of adding
brilliance

Too much light without any darkness is
such a bore not to mention dishonest

Besides which so many luminous treasures
are stashed in the shadow closet anyone
that borks at this work is missing out
big time


Yes, the is a form of a wall there, that is tied to given situation. One can get too entrenched in their given knowing, and find it slipping from the ability to know and be in every moment..to being a rote action, a repeated mantra that slowly distances itself from the depths of how one should be 'in situ'. Kinda like a lesson that within the scope of the idea of being immersed in 'time'... there is no perfect answer.

Which is why I keep flashing between the two. As in, there is no falling from grace, that is a concept bound by the very issue of distance in and from knowing. Time and distance being related in a 3d world with a temporal flow. (differential in all components, big and small, macro and quantum)

Which is part of why I chose the route of being in the pain of others, besides the skill residing in me of being able to help in those moments, at that time.

[another bob]

....there is no falling from grace, that is a concept bound by the very issue of distance in and from knowing. Time and distance being related in a 3d world with a temporal flow.


VdKM_RJXmKM

[astrid]

Yes trying too hard to stay on ones path it becomes it's
own form of getting lost
In the mundane
Which comes with tying to maintain overly a form of control
over the mess, which may look and feel all good for a time
Until you realize how tightly packaged up things are becoming
At which time there is nothing like a match and a can of kerosene
Lol

[Jenci]

Yes trying too hard to stay on ones path it becomes it's
own form of getting lost
In the mundane
Which comes with tying to maintain overly a form of control
over the mess, which may look and feel all good for a time
Until you realize how tightly packaged up things are becoming
At which time there is nothing like a match and a can of kerosene
Lol


That's great, Astrid and I'm with you on this one.

Sometimes I find myself doing the most stupid of things and question "why am I doing this?"

And then I get my arse kicked......and I know why I am doing it ;)


Jeanette

[Carmody]

Yes trying too hard to stay on ones path it becomes it's
own form of getting lost
In the mundane
Which comes with tying to maintain overly a form of control
over the mess, which may look and feel all good for a time
Until you realize how tightly packaged up things are becoming
At which time there is nothing like a match and a can of kerosene
Lol

It is the differences which build us. We cannot exist without them.

[WhiteFeather]

Evening from The East, Stopping in With Love and Peace.....
Good to see Calz's keyboard strokes on this thread......
Hey Calz.....Bring back some goodies....after you tuck Grandma in bed.....

Hope all is well in your vortex!

A. Bob where do you find such awesome music videos.....Wanishi

Great Story Nora, I would love to experience what you did someday, sounds like Bliss......My Great Grandfather was A HalfBreed American Indian he lived in Texas.....And Indeed We are all related!

Some Native Flute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETvFnLg0hXU&feature=related



Peace

~W.f.

[Guest]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17538&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1343270545

benevolentcrow

very touching, i'm sorry you lost your mom.

My mom and I hit a lot of turbulence in the road over the years, but became friends and had a good relationship.

A few years ago she sent me one of those little inspirational notes in a birthday card. While cleaning out some boxes, I found the note about a week before my birthday (smiled to myself). When I read your above post made me think of the message inside of the note thought I would share it with you.


Daughter,

today and always,
please know that I see you.
I see the path you've made
that's all your own.
I see the many unique
talents and gifts you have to share.
I see your brilliance, your enthusiasm,
and how deeply you care
and hurt sometimes.
I see your hard-earned wisdom,
your soft pure innocence,
your courage and compassion,
your unconditional goodness.
I see what a difference
you make in this world,
and I hope you know
how very much I love you,
and how proud I'll always be
to have a daughter
as wonderful as you.



Love

Nora

[RunningDeer]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17538&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1343270545

benevolentcrow

very touching, i'm sorry you lost your mom.

My mom and I hit a lot of turbulence in the road over the years, but became friends and had a good relationship.

A few years ago she sent me one of those little inspirational notes in a birthday card. While cleaning out some boxes, I found the note about a week before my birthday (smiled to myself). When I read your above post made me think of the message inside of the note thought I would share it with you.


Daughter,

today and always,
please know that I see you.
I see the path you've made
that's all your own.
I see the many unique
talents and gifts you have to share.
I see your brilliance, your enthusiasm,
and how deeply you care
and hurt sometimes.
I see your hard-earned wisdom,
your soft pure innocence,
your courage and compassion,
your unconditional goodness.
I see what a difference
you make in this world,
and I hope you know
how very much I love you,
and how proud I'll always be
to have a daughter
as wonderful as you.



Love

Nora



Nora, thanks for sharing this beautiful poetry and description of you. For your Mom to share these thoughts of you... just blows me away. It's tender, nurturing, damn priceless! You are fortunate!

[benevolentcrow]

I only wish I could have had a photo taken like this before my Mother passed away. So touching and beautiful...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17538&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1343270545

benevolentcrow

very touching, i'm sorry you lost your mom.

My mom and I hit a lot of turbulence in the road over the years, but became friends and had a good relationship.

A few years ago she sent me one of those little inspirational notes in a birthday card. While cleaning out some boxes, I found the note about a week before my birthday (smiled to myself). When I read your above post made me think of the message inside of the note thought I would share it with you.


Daughter,

today and always,
please know that I see you.
I see the path you've made
that's all your own.
I see the many unique
talents and gifts you have to share.
I see your brilliance, your enthusiasm,
and how deeply you care
and hurt sometimes.
I see your hard-earned wisdom,
your soft pure innocence,
your courage and compassion,
your unconditional goodness.
I see what a difference
you make in this world,
and I hope you know
how very much I love you,
and how proud I'll always be
to have a daughter
as wonderful as you.



Love

Nora



Thank you so much Nora. Today has been a good day in the Village. I am ever so grateful to have such wonderful friends to hang out with! Much love!

[benevolentcrow]

As a child of the 60's Today I feel like we are half a million strong!

For those of you that are younger, a term from Woodstock!

A peaceful love-in at Project Avalon! Far Out! or as we would say back in Indiana "Farm Out"

Peace, love and happiness to you all!

[RunningDeer]

"Hippie Quotes"


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Calz/hippie-quotes.jpg

Make love, not war. 
~ Don't let the man keep you down.
~ 

Hell no, we won't go. 
~ 

Never trust the man. 
~ 

Give peace a chance. 
~ Power to the People. 
~ 

Drop acid not bombs. 
~ 

Live and let live. 
~ 

Bring it home, daddy-o. 
~ 

Outtasight! 
~ Right on. 
~ 

Groovy 
~ 

Go with the flow. 
~ Far out, man. 
~ 

Heavy (adjective) 
~ 

Jump the lines, man! 
~ 

F*ck the establishment.


As a child of the 60's Today I feel like we are half a million strong!

For those of you that are younger, a term from Woodstock!

A peaceful love-in at Project Avalon! Far Out! or as we would say back in Indiana "Farm Out"

Peace, love and happiness to you all!

[Calz]

"Hippie Quotes"


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Calz/hippie-quotes.jpg




Okay ... I'll "bite" ... :hippie:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ckBlasgNSzg/SpHkEq5YHxI/AAAAAAAAOM4/hnpmPdhGjGE/s400/Hippy+Dog.jpg

http://blog.planetinfo.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/monkeyhippie-funny-photos-and-funniest-images.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SXhQqHh6qKk/SKKHcWLSP8I/AAAAAAAABDY/i4xa3RYmhqY/s400/monkey-tribal-funny-monkey-pictures-05.jpg

http://www.funnyanimalpictures.tk/wp-content/uploads/pictures/funny-sheep-74.jpg

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=22229857

http://www.togsfordogsandcatstoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hippie-dogs-2-174205_5.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Hey, Dude. Like groovy Polaroids, man. Peace out.



"Hippie Quotes"


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Calz/hippie-quotes.jpg




Okay ... I'll "bite" ... :hippie:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ckBlasgNSzg/SpHkEq5YHxI/AAAAAAAAOM4/hnpmPdhGjGE/s400/Hippy+Dog.jpg

[astrid]

Great day in the garden planting out peas and lettuces,
very soothing for the questing soul.

Calz and Spiral both, great to see you back posting again,
now where is that dastardly wizard??

[another bob]

The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun). I've been tracking it, and these days it resembles more the self-sufficient recluse movement of early Chinese Taoism, crossed with Native American Shamanism. You won't find it in the MSM, or even much in the so-called Alt. community (which is now heavily infested). There are still signs that I find here at this oasis we call Avalon, little streams that could eventually connect and join into a river of life to nourish the arid landscape of materialistic desperation and religious provincialism. That is the true revolution -- consciousness itself becoming fully self-aware in form.

I was lucky enough to be in San Francisco in the early to mid-60s, and was in awe of the potential I witnessed, only to be dismayed as I watched it get ripped off by the same forces that have fractured, divided, and pretty much conquered the current elements of an alternative possibility. It was never about drugs and sex and rock 'n roll, or anti-establishment politics. That was all a bunch of BS infused by very clever manipulation, to cast a huge smoke cloud (no pun) over a movement in consciousness that was indeed truly threatening, because if people were to awaken on a mass scale to their true identity and power as immortal spiritual beings, the whole oppressive architecture so carefully constructed over centuries by the dark ones would be relegated to a swift obsolescence.

It can still happen. It's in the hands of each one of us.

:yo:

[ViralSpiral]

Good morning, good evening across the nation and around the world © (George Noory - Coast to Coast AM) :biggrin1:


Thanks Astrid. Break was necessary. Those walls....... I had them. Hurdled them.
Energies were very strong (still are). It has been raining A LOT, which also affects the psyche.
Finally the sun, she shines...
I feel for those who are experiencing drought.

Sadly I missed playing in the carefree 60's, instead this is what we boogied to a little later on:

SKdVq_vNAAI


Oh man, those toit pants :bounce:


And this was the slow song choice, when we innocently shuffled around the dance floor, hugging each other, not really understanding what the song meanings were. Not that its any clearer now :cool:


9Q7Vr3yQYWQ


I miss MW too! Bring your guitar. Lets have a sing-along around the campfire! We need to be dancing on the lei lines, laughing at the silliness of it all.

I LOVED the chicken coop. I want (not need). My favourite colour too!

[ViralSpiral]

The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun).

True dat. If only the irreverence for the flag and rebellion against war had brought out the true Age of Aquarius - true fellowship of humankind.


NaAC9vDFozc



Another "work in progress" - both literally and figuratively.

[astrid]

Oh yes.. the rain here, has been unrelenting and it has a way , if fall into that space,
of drawing out long forgotten sadness. I must say i have always loved winter for support it
brings to be introspective, it can be the most valuable time, and also the most miserable,
depending on how much you surrender to the process, that is natures way every year.
As i type this I'm looking out to the leafless trees, the Ash and the Silver Birch.
Still both standing strong and sacred, even though they are without the covering of their canopies.
A reminder that it's not only natural to withdraw energies within, it's imperative in order to weather
storms and re-emerge in spring with a new burst of growth.

Also a good reminder that everything is totally perfect.

[Jenci]

Reading the Acknowledgements thread and I was thinking it was nice to be reading about what was right around here at Avalon, rather than what was wrong. And I have been guilty myself of making the list of things wrong around here!...but then the story of my life was always making the wrong list and it has been a hard habit to break.

I welcome the energy in the gratitude and it has inspired me to check out some posts of those who have been thanked who I am not so familiar with.

Anyway, it brought to mind the story I had heard once about the Babemba tribe.




“In the Babemba tribe of South Africa, when a person acts irresponsibly or unjustly, he is placed in the center of the village, alone and unfettered.

All work ceases, and every man, woman, and child in the village gathers in a large circle around the accused individual. Then each person in the tribe speaks to the accused, one at a time, each recalling the good things the person in the center of the circle has done in his lifetime.

Every incident, every experience that can be recalled with any detail and accuracy, is recounted. All his positive attributes, good deeds, strengths, and kindnesses are recited carefully and at length.

This tribal ceremony often lasts for several days. At the end,the tribal circle is broken, a joyous celebration takes place, and the person is symbolically and literally welcomed back into the tribe.” ~Original source unknown


http://www.jennifertill.com/2012/02/24/babemba-tribe-a-model-of-justice/



http://www.jennifertill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sfcookie.jpg



Jeanette

[astrid]

I couldn't resist this one....

17613

[astrid]

Missed your Spirals, Spiral,
keep them coming...

I'm planning to build a spiral labyrinth in my back yard this spring,
that will have ceremonial uses. I can't wait to build it,
i might even incorporate a herb garden into it for all my medicinal plants.

[ulli]

The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun). I've been tracking it, and these days it resembles more the self-sufficient recluse movement of early Chinese Taoism, crossed with Native American Shamanism. You won't find it in the MSM, or even much in the so-called Alt. community (which is now heavily infested). There are still signs that I find here at this oasis we call Avalon, little streams that could eventually connect and join into a river of life to nourish the arid landscape of materialistic desperation and religious provincialism. That is the true revolution -- consciousness itself becoming fully self-aware in form.

I was lucky enough to be in San Francisco in the early to mid-60s, and was in awe of the potential I witnessed, only to be dismayed as I watched it get ripped off by the same forces that have fractured, divided, and pretty much conquered the current elements of an alternative possibility. It was never about drugs and sex and rock 'n roll, or anti-establishment politics. That was all a bunch of BS infused by very clever manipulation, to cast a huge smoke cloud (no pun) over a movement in consciousness that was indeed truly threatening, because if people were to awaken on a mass scale to their true identity and power as immortal spiritual beings, the whole oppressive architecture so carefully constructed over centuries by the dark ones would be relegated to a swift obsolescence.

It can still happen. It's in the hands of each one of us.

:yo:

A lot of good analysis here, Bob. I agree about the MSM...not ever has there been a hippie character written into a sitcom.
But their impact will still be lasting, it just takes longer to manifest such a culture change.
Right now things are a bit lop-sided, which means that soon everything will return to balance. Come on, man, life is freakin' awesome!!! We have the Internet; and who made all the software but aging hippies....

[ulli]

I couldn't resist this one....

17613

Astrid, this picture needs to go on the acknowledgement thread. There, I said it!
In fact, I would suggest that anyone who felt left out even if for a brief moment, should put up one of those homemade cartoons of themselves.
With a gold medal around their necks.

[another bob]

Reading the Acknowledgements thread and I was thinking it was nice to be reading about what was right around here at Avalon, rather than what was wrong. And I have been guilty myself of making the list of things wrong around here!...but then the story of my life was always making the wrong list and it has been a hard habit to break.

I welcome the energy in the gratitude and it has inspired me to check out some posts of those who have been thanked who I am not so familiar with.

Anyway, it brought to mind the story I had heard once about the Babemba tribe.




“In the Babemba tribe of South Africa, when a person acts irresponsibly or unjustly, he is placed in the center of the village, alone and unfettered.

All work ceases, and every man, woman, and child in the village gathers in a large circle around the accused individual. Then each person in the tribe speaks to the accused, one at a time, each recalling the good things the person in the center of the circle has done in his lifetime.

Every incident, every experience that can be recalled with any detail and accuracy, is recounted. All his positive attributes, good deeds, strengths, and kindnesses are recited carefully and at length.

This tribal ceremony often lasts for several days. At the end,the tribal circle is broken, a joyous celebration takes place, and the person is symbolically and literally welcomed back into the tribe.” ~Original source unknown


http://www.jennifertill.com/2012/02/24/babemba-tribe-a-model-of-justice/



http://www.jennifertill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sfcookie.jpg



Jeanette

Thanks, Sister -- excellent example of enlightened behavior on a communal basis!

Praise is the cure for the emotional contraction at the core of most conflict and alienation.

I am so grateful for the Acknowledgement Thread,coming as it does at a very ripe moment.

Blessings to all!

[another bob]

We have the Internet; and who made all the software but aging hippies....

And a special Thank You to you, Sister, who has taken this tool and helped create a Village of awakening brothers and sisters!


http://i45.tinypic.com/vqhapz.gif

[ulli]

Thanks another Bob.
But waking up is not the only thing that needs doing. There is work to be done,
and I call it 'surfing the waves' at the level of the individual and 'sailing the ship of Gaia' at the level of the collective.
It's actually work that can be fun as well.

Controlling one's mood swings at the level of the individual,
and weather control at the level of the collective.
And this term 'weather control' can even refer to restoring power to the people of India,
as it does to dispersing clouds in the mid Atlantic before they can become hurricanes
(as the one just east of Barbados right now)
Please HELP!!!!
...by the way, thank you everyone for restoring sunshine to Costa Rica....
now THAT I have to call a JOB WELL DONE...and with such SWIFTNESS!!
You guys are THE BEST.

[another bob]

...waking up is not the only thing that needs doing. There is work to be done....

Indeed, and herein lies a paradox: "waking up" implies the recognition that such awareness must be embodied, or incarnated, in the way we act and behave with each other in the world of space and time. That is what "functioning" is all about. Insight must be grounded in functioning, otherwise, it stays in the head, rather than making its way to the heart and gut.

At the same time, "waking up" also yields the recognition that "there is nothing to do", or more to the point, there is no doer. This is the difficult part of realization -- to discard the sense of doership, let go, and "let God". It's the very sense of personal doership that sabotages even profound "spiritual" experiences, where the mind adds a "me and mine" to the functioning, re-inforcing the sense of a separate and enduring self.

Real spiritual maturity begins to dawn when we are willing to question our most cherished beliefs, assumptions, and presumed identities. When our love of Truth is such that even our most closely held notions and concepts about the nature of ourselves and existence can be submitted to honest and probing inquiry then we become "available".

Until then, we typically drift along in a dreamy sense of un-inspected security, at the mercy of whatever conditioning filters are operative in the body/mind (based upon prior association and interpretation of perception). In Buddhism, for example, this is called The Wheel, and it spins us through innumerable dreamy births and deaths unceasingly until the fabric of the dream itself begins to wear thin, and then there is the possibility of Seeing.

Of course, in the dream there are worlds to be saved, people at war, all manner of catastrophes and delights, and an unlimited number of seeming advances and retreats, and the wheel keeps on spinning, and the Dreamer keeps dreaming, and sometimes we seem to float above our dream bodies into some subtler variation on the dream, and fly through dream tunnels into majestic and comforting realms of light and beauty, or into perpetual hell realms of misery and despair, but never once stopping to wonder:

"Is this TRUE?"

Never once stopping to pull aside the curtain and unveil the Wizard at last, because the nature of Oz is so seductive, and those poppy fields are so very potent, and the last thing anybody really wants is to Awaken, despite all protests to the contrary, for to Awaken entails walking off that cliff and flinging oneself into the Unknown, and that is a terrifying prospect indeed, and so we remain asleep, cuddled up in the comfortable blankets of illusion, and somewhere in the remote distance there is a Call, but in our accumulated congestion of dreaminess it is so easy to dismiss, until one day the truth can no longer be ignored, and the sunlight just floods through our little bedroom windows, stripping all the blankets off and exposing our nakedness, and then we are really in for it!

:yo:

[1inMany]

Hello, Villagers.

Thought I would try, yet one more time, to verbalize what has been happening here. and now. Things are happening so quickly and so rapid-fire that I can barely catch my breath or let a new realization settle before another one comes along. Memories are surfacing, and I don't mean from childhood 3D. Inner knowings are exploding, my being expanding, my gifts are beginning to surface, who I am is...sort of...making appearances.

That's all that will come out right now.

What an experience.

Love you all,

[Ivanhoe]

ABob, re your post #17168,
I agree whole heartedly.
My own start on this path was in 1970 with a wonderful group of people who gathered every weekend and discussed very topic under the sun. There could be 2-3 people or 30 there, it didn't matter.
All views were examined. No one was made to feel small or insignificant, no matter what topic you brought up.
It was about growing and understanding,...and love.
We called our meeting place Rivendell.
They hold a special place in my heart, much like this place.:tea:

[Carmody]

The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun). I've been tracking it, and these days it resembles more the self-sufficient recluse movement of early Chinese Taoism, crossed with Native American Shamanism. You won't find it in the MSM, or even much in the so-called Alt. community (which is now heavily infested). There are still signs that I find here at this oasis we call Avalon, little streams that could eventually connect and join into a river of life to nourish the arid landscape of materialistic desperation and religious provincialism. That is the true revolution -- consciousness itself becoming fully self-aware in form.

I was lucky enough to be in San Francisco in the early to mid-60s, and was in awe of the potential I witnessed, only to be dismayed as I watched it get ripped off by the same forces that have fractured, divided, and pretty much conquered the current elements of an alternative possibility. It was never about drugs and sex and rock 'n roll, or anti-establishment politics. That was all a bunch of BS infused by very clever manipulation, to cast a huge smoke cloud (no pun) over a movement in consciousness that was indeed truly threatening, because if people were to awaken on a mass scale to their true identity and power as immortal spiritual beings, the whole oppressive architecture so carefully constructed over centuries by the dark ones would be relegated to a swift obsolescence.

It can still happen. It's in the hands of each one of us.

:yo:

Two films cover some aspects of this:

The century of the self,

prTarrgvkjo

And

The American ruling Class:

http://vimeo.com/46181665

This second one..as listings go..this is the FIRST time I've seen the film available publicly, see it while you can. Interviews with the oligarchy directly, and their direct comments about what a ruling class is and that it exists. Including a direct question and answer on this, with Jim Baker. (the young guy asking this directly to Jim, has got this look on his face...'please don't kill me') The thing about the group of the 60's (as a direct question) being directly defeated is tackled head on. Within the first 10 minutes of the film, you've already got the direct reply of Kurt Vonnegut and Walter Cronkite, on this subject of a grouped and self aware-self interest oligarchy. Within 15 minutes you've got the direct answer from the head of the New York Times.

Walter Cronkite, for example, directly states that we need more people who are just and fair minded to join up, as he feels it is necessary for this to happen, for any form of democracy to survive. The unspoken part is the thing of a slipping into fascism which can then and will further slide into totalitarianism and/or despotism, for history shows that fascism is invariably only an intermediary step toward a bloodbath of those natures.

The problem being is that fascism is good at co-opting other forces and movements, in order to protect and cloak itself. When you understand that, you will come to the conclusion that fascism is a motion toward, a complex dance step toward the inevitable of a bloodbath. That it is a coordinated stage of a plan, nothing more. That fascism is not a final condition, it is too unbalanced for that to be a reality. Fascism is a 'motion toward' -- not a final state.

The vast majority of the western world is now in the stage of fascism, so let that be your warning. To be clear, the short form of the encyclopedic definition of fascism, is: when corporate (money/finances) entities collude with the governing bodies in ways that are against the will of the public.

Which is what we have now, in the western world. Depending on the given country, different stages of this exist. Some are closer to the finality of closing the doors on freedoms, some are less.

[ulli]

when corporate (money/finances) entities collude with the governing bodies in ways that are against the will of the public.


division of Church and State was the remedy that allowed democracy to come into being,
but now the pendulum has gone too far the other way....
and what is needed is a division of Bank and State.

[another bob]

The American ruling Class:

http://vimeo.com/46181665

This second one..as listings go..this is the FIRST time I've seen the film available publicly, see it while you can. Interviews with the oligarchy directly, and their direct comments about what a ruling class is and that it exists. Including a direct question and answer on this, with Jim Baker. (the young guy asking this directly to Jim, has got this look on his face...'please don't kill me') The thing about the group of the 60's (as a direct question) being directly defeated is tackled head on. Within the first 10 minutes of the film, you've already got the direct reply of Kurt Vonnegut and Walter Cronkite, on this subject of a grouped and self aware-self interest oligarchy. Within 15 minutes you've got the direct answer from the head of the New York Times.

Walter Cronkite, for example, directly states that we need more people who are just and fair minded to join up, as he feels it is necessary for this to happen, for any form of democracy to survive. The unspoken part is the thing of a slipping into fascism which can then and will further slide into totalitarianism and/or despotism, for history shows that fascism is invariably only an intermediary step toward a bloodbath of those natures.

The problem being is that fascism is good at co-opting other forces and movements, in order to protect and cloak itself. When you understand that, you will come to the conclusion that fascism is a motion toward, a complex dance step toward the inevitable of a bloodbath. That it is a coordinated stage of a plan, nothing more. That fascism is not a final condition, it is too unbalanced for that to be a reality. Fascism is a 'motion toward' -- not a final state.

The vast majority of the western world is now in the stage of fascism, so let that be your warning. To be clear, the short form of the encyclopedic definition of fascism, is: when corporate (money/finances) entities collude with the governing bodies in ways that are against the will of the public.

Which is what we have now, in the western world. Depending on the given country, different stages of this exist. Some are closer to the finality of closing the doors on freedoms, some are less.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention -- a very thoughtful exploration!

At various times in my life, I've been exposed to both polarities. In the course of my professional career, for example, I had the opportunity to get a good look at particular segment of the de facto ruling class, and my impression was one of spiritual bankruptcy. Moreover, this metaphysical state was accompanied in most instances by a physical manifestation, characterized by a lack of Chi.

I thought that the movie Zardoz did a very good job at portraying the ultimate fate of the elite. Worth watching, for those who never saw it, or even those who may want to revisit a rather prophetic examination of the potential endgame.

[benevolentcrow]

Just had to share. I believe! Hope it gets your creative juice flowing.

Bob Ross has since passed away, his happy little trees live on!

Love this Re-Mix!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLO7tCdBVrA&feature=player_embedded

[Jenci]

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/563/cache/juvenile-alpha-wolves_56396_990x742.jpg

source http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/juvenile-alpha-wolves/


Thoughts when I see this picture. I see the peace in the eyes of the wolf on the right, the silent, still peace which is always there even when caught in the tiger's mouth.

Or the wolf was a model in a previous incarnation and just somehow managed to nail the look for the photographer :laugh:


Jeanette

[dan33]

Hi Village!
Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

Thanks to all!

[benevolentcrow]

Hi Village!
Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

Thanks to all!

Now you know what it is and it sounds treatable! You can move forward in the right direction! Best of luck to Hugo and thanks for the update Dan. Blessing to you and yours!

[dan33]

I'm working my as off. Regular 9 to 5 and now more side jobs than I can handle. I'm gonna make myself sick if I don't slow down - I feel it coming....

It is not hard to see that this job has done wonders for me, and it seems like work will not run out with this company for a few years. These last two months has improved my stamina and overall muscular strength. The extreme heat has caused me to sweat for ten hours a day and my body took the opportunity to excrete a great deal of toxins that have built up over the years.

This experience reminds me of the time I stopped driving. That time I was forced to carry my tools and materials on my back to survive and my legs and back got very strong. So much so that now I can bound up the stairs of the condo we're building even better than the twenty year olds can (and I am a thirty year smoker, but you'd never know it). I started this job with the sorest muscles, I'll admit, but I used meditation (every morning) to soothe, strengthen and rejuvinate my muscles and joints - I actually can rid myself of any pain in less than twenty minutes of meditation.

Perhaps the most significant change has been my ability to keep my emotions in check (most times at least) and to foster a positive mental attitude in general. I do not approve of work in this world because of the overcurrent of exploitation that often rides along with it. I do not like being used as a slave, and nothing really has changed in that area - only my attitude toward it. The job is secondary, my work is primary. And I have a whole group of unsuspecting innocents to administer to.

Without much effort on my part, except to always be helpful and understanding (my nickname at work is "Ernesto, The Great"), my coworkers have learned that I have knowledge in many areas beyond electrical and have come asking for my opinion on many issues. Some of these are: the current financial situation, how to cancel all debt, the Freeman movement, spiritual advancement and experiences, even dream analysis (which I'm not that good with, since I don't like to dream, but by opening myself to the Source I can offer bits of wisdom), ongoing political wranglings, and world events from the perspective of truth as apposed to the spin of propaganda, etc.

I'm not saying I have created converts, I am saying I have sown the seed of truth, which is my purpose. And here's the rub - whenever I start on one of these topics I always think of my friends here and try to emulate as much as possible your understandings and advanced wisdom, which I like to think I share to some degree. So thanks for that. I will never forget all you wonderful people - even when I'm worked to the bone and cannot find the energy or time to keep up with all the goings on in the here and now.

And my attitude? What has changed? Well, that's easy. I used to and still do hate this modern world. But what I have realized is that I LOVE LIFE! I love this life. I love the tremendous potential that from time to time peeps through this human construct. I love the children, and the innocent adults, and the trees and flowers and birds. I love the sun and the moon and the stars. I love this earth, our mother. I just love the natural world! I'm in love with life! I wish we could live in a world where I could love our society as well - and that is my purpose. To use truth to plant the seeds of a future world where I can honestly say - I love this modern world and everything in it. That is my dream and my ambition and my goal. I have no other.

I march into the future with no fear and full of the verve that is the signature of all life.

hugs

Grande, grande...Great.

"ERNESTO, THE GREAT" ! :)

[Eram]

The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun). I've been tracking it, and these days it resembles more the self-sufficient recluse movement of early Chinese Taoism, crossed with Native American Shamanism. You won't find it in the MSM, or even much in the so-called Alt. community (which is now heavily infested). There are still signs that I find here at this oasis we call Avalon, little streams that could eventually connect and join into a river of life to nourish the arid landscape of materialistic desperation and religious provincialism. That is the true revolution -- consciousness itself becoming fully self-aware in form.

I was lucky enough to be in San Francisco in the early to mid-60s, and was in awe of the potential I witnessed, only to be dismayed as I watched it get ripped off by the same forces that have fractured, divided, and pretty much conquered the current elements of an alternative possibility. It was never about drugs and sex and rock 'n roll, or anti-establishment politics. That was all a bunch of BS infused by very clever manipulation, to cast a huge smoke cloud (no pun) over a movement in consciousness that was indeed truly threatening, because if people were to awaken on a mass scale to their true identity and power as immortal spiritual beings, the whole oppressive architecture so carefully constructed over centuries by the dark ones would be relegated to a swift obsolescence.

It can still happen. It's in the hands of each one of us.

:yo:

When I read this, I think that my parents must have been part of this movement that went underground eventually. Here in the Netherlands there was the movement of the PROVO's mostly in Amsterdam. My parents weren't part of that, but they were some sort of hippies (without the drugs, sex and rock'n roll part) and they started one of the first whole sale food shops in the Netherlands (Utrecht). Happy memories, playing in that shop and smelling the exotic flavours of the food that was being prepared there. The idea of healthy food in that time was somewhat Neanderthal like, so there would have been a few people that broke their teeth on what was offered as lunch haha.

Uplifting to read how you set the record straight on this one Bob.


edit to add:

Viral & Calz :wave: Nice to see you here again!

[Jenci]

This must be a Wanderer :)


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/7/31/184750/default/v4/8532322-1-1-942x530.jpg




A runaway tabby cat has survived a 2,000-mile journey from Turkey to Kent hidden in a lorry.

The six-week-old kitten used one of her nine lives to survive the gruelling road journey which began in the Turkish capital, Ankara.

The tabby, named Yonda, was only discovered nine days later when workers from logistics company Davies Turner emptied the delivery trailer at a depot in Dartford.

Another cat was also found on board, but was seriously ill and died.

Yonda has now been sent to the Animal Inn near Deal, Kent, where she will spend six months in quarantine.

Cats Protection, in Croydon, south London, plans to rehouse the feline and has launched an appeal for funds to pay for her quarantine costs.

Heather McCann, of Cats Protection, said: "Yonda has had quite a journey.

"She was apparently very timid and frightened at first, but thanks to the vigilance and kindness of everyone at Davies Turner, she is now doing well in the comfort of the Animal Inn.

http://news.sky.com/story/967295/puss-in-boot-stowaway-cat-turns-up-in-kent

[dan33]

..
-

watching the olympics, peaceful competition, and fair ..

thinking of this :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5Cvz4PnZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5Cvz4PnZw
( Bruce Springsteen - War (Live 1988) )

&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk
( "War" by Edwin Starr (Original Video - 1969) )

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPqsDU0j2I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPqsDU0j2I
( Electric Light Orchestra - Mr Blue Sky )

be well

:)

:fish2:

..
-

I really go crazy about this theme in the eighties.

8bY2gc3SsFM

What sounds better, the music or the needle?

nvGLOgkw3NA

[Eram]

There is still doubt in me sometimes, as to the appliance of the exercises offered bye Eckhart. I have a history of suppressing my feelings and emotions. I was an am very good at that.
So, when I let 'everything that is, to be' , and it happens very rapid and quickly (emotions rising and going), I get confused sometimes..... is this a trick from the subconscious, where I'm still suppressing, or is this the real deal?
As I was driving to the Netherlands yesterday to collect my son who was staying with his grandparents, pondering about this.... I didn't ask for a sign, but I got one nonetheless.

Doing 125 km/h (80 mph) where 80 km/h (50 mph) was allowed, thinking about the techniques (Forgot to notice that the highway was slowing down the speed limit in 2 stages), there was a patrol car entering in the rear view mirror pulling up behind me.
I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

So I became at peace with the situation and was even slightly interested to what this experience would be like, welcoming it almost.
The officer didn't pull me over, but steered his car next to mine and as we looked at each other, he nodded at me and drove of.

What exactly prevented the officer to pull me over and take my drivers licence, is food for speculation of course, but it is easy to speculate that my attitude influenced the course of the event energetically.

:high5:


edit to add:


Hi Village!
Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

Thanks to all!

So this is good news then?
Now you know what is going on, and it is treatable.

all the best energy your way Dan and Hugo!

[Flash]

I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

:high5:


edit to add:

[QUOTE=dan33;530337]Hi Village!
Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

Thanks to all!

Just a little comment, Walkytweaky, if it can be helpful, but it seem to me that you are not mentioning emotions here, but what you are telling yourself during or before the emotions arise. This, to me, seems different from emotions.

For example, I would tell myself "Oh my Gosh, my daughter's father is still in a tweaked (lol) mood, he will be difficult to handle" then the emotion arising from it is either fear, disapointment or anger. It does help for me to name the emotion directly, because it is often the first thing I feel, even if my mind has been running amock with little develish sentences for a while beforehand.

And what I tell/told myself will impact on what is happening in the given situation in terms or emotions. For example, if I replace the sentence by "Oh, (take off my Gosh to take off the intensity) "Oh, my daughter's father seems (not is) in a tweaked mood, what will I do to handle it?" you see, it change the perspective and my emotions are then may be still disapointment, then bits of sadness for the situation, then a feeling of empowerment because I can do something

I realised a while ago that to change the situation and the emotion, I would have to change what I tell myseif, my selftalk. I also realised that if the emotions arising are not clearly named, they will bottle up instead of changing, and the overall work will be kind of wasted.

I hope this help.

So, walkytweaky, what were the emotion going with the self talk?;)

[RunningDeer]

Hi Village!
Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

Thanks to all!

Yeah! to Hugo, Inés, and Daniel. http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/gathering-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)
If memory serves, just a month's worth of meds will rid that story. Thanks for the update. :wave:

[Jenci]

There is still doubt in me sometimes, as to the appliance of the exercises offered bye Eckhart. I have a history of suppressing my feelings and emotions. I was an am very good at that.
So, when I let 'everything that is, to be' , and it happens very rapid and quickly (emotions rising and going)

Hi Waky,


Most often that's exactly how it happens. Feelings arise and move within seconds, although I am reluctant to say that usually because it can lead to the seeking to process a feeling very quickly and as soon as you are seeking to do that, you are not allowing the feeling just to be and arise as how it needs to.

When you start to see how feelings move in this space of allowing, you will wonder why you ever spent a lifetime (lifetimes) resisting or grasping them.






I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.
This is good, shows that your awareness is expanding and in that you are able to be aware of much more detail and sensitivity.

I would say though that these were feelings with a story attached to them. The story is the thought which is describing the feeling which is arising in the body and this occurs in the mind and if you are paying attention to why you are feeling like this, then you are giving your mind attention as well as the feeling. If you can get to the place where all attention is on the feeling, this will be most helpful. So, if the story arises which says "I am feeling like this because", then just acknowlege it as a thought in the mind and shift your attention back to the feeling.

Our feelings don't cause us suffering, it's the story attached to them.

You can use your attention with precision to focus directly on the feeling just as you would if you were in a room where you were aware things were going on but you had a very precise task to do like thread a needle; your surroundings would fade as your attention zoomed in on the eye of the needle.

A feeling is energy. Attention is energy. Energy moves energy so expect the feeling may move and you may need to move your attention where it goes. It is only your mind that tells you that you are limited to your body and therefore holds the feeling (energy) inside. When you stop paying attention to the mind and being led by it, then the energy can freely move around the whole of you - everywhere.


This is powerful, transformational work. :)


Jeanette

[RunningDeer]

Doing 125 km/h (80 mph) where 80 km/h (50 mph) was allowed, thinking about the techniques (Forgot to notice that the highway was slowing down the speed limit in 2 stages), there was a patrol car entering in the rear view mirror pulling up behind me.
I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

So I became at peace with the situation and was even slightly interested to what this experience would be like, welcoming it almost.
The officer didn't pull me over, but steered his car next to mine and as we looked at each other, he nodded at me and drove of.

What exactly prevented the officer to pull me over and take my drivers licence, is food for speculation of course, but it is easy to speculate that my attitude influenced the course of the event energetically.

I'll take a stab at it. http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

You were unplugged from the 3D world of cause and effect. The willingness to let go of the illusionary physical world to watch from the greater perspective allowed the officer to be on his way.

(You were not the experience or experiencer. You were the watcher of experiencing.) .http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/big-smile2-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)


UPDATE: I didn't realize that Flash and Jenci had already posted. Going back up to read. :wave:

[Eram]

I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

:high5:


edit to add:

[QUOTE=dan33;530337]Hi Village!
Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

Thanks to all!

Just a little comment, Walkytweaky, if it can be helpful, but it seem to me that you are not mentioning emotions here, but what you are telling yourself during or before the emotions arise. This, to me, seems different from emotions.

For example, I would tell myself "Oh my Gosh, my daughter's father is still in a tweaked (lol) mood, he will be difficult to handle" then the emotion arising from it is either fear, disapointment or anger. It does help for me to name the emotion directly, because it is often the first thing I feel, even if my mind has been running amock with little develish sentences for a while beforehand.

And what I tell/told myself will impact on what is happening in the given situation in terms or emotions. For example, if I replace the sentence by "Oh, (take off my Gosh to take off the intensity) "Oh, my daughter's father seems (not is) in a tweaked mood, what will I do to handle it?" you see, it change the perspective and my emotions are then may be still disapointment, then bits of sadness for the situation, then a feeling of empowerment because I can do something

I realised a while ago that to change the situation and the emotion, I would have to change what I tell myseif, my selftalk. I also realised that if the emotions arising are not clearly named, they will bottle up instead of changing, and the overall work will be kind of wasted.

I hope this help.

So, walkytweaky, what were the emotion going with the self talk?;)

Thank You FLash,

It's true that I'm not sure to what exactly happens and what to call the different stages of the process.

To point it back at what happened with the speeding and the patrol officer:
I felt and spark (physical sensation of energy) that was coming from somewhere in the gut or stomach, rising up to the chest and head, becoming a picture of what will maybe happen (thought or just a mental picture?) and this is accompanied with a feeling of building fear and panic (emotion?).
It might be that I'm telling myself: Oops, I'm busted etc..., but I experience it as a mental picture mostly and I merely tried to give words to it.
So what is it... telling myself something, mental picture, thoughts? I get confused about these things :)


If I'm correct, what you are talking about is a form of NLP (neuro linguistic programming) which is a technique that is aiming to change the experience that you are having.
What I talk about is a technique that is aiming to allow all that presents itself to us (thoughts, feelings and emotions) to be there, without judging it or identifying with it. Just let it flow through us and allowing it free passage as one would with a bird flying bye.
How we play with this are different techniques if I'm not mistaken.

I recently talked to someone here on the forum who practices both techniques at the same time actually and he teaches it to friends and family with success.
I still have my reservations about this for myself, but it seems to be working for others.

[Eram]

There is still doubt in me sometimes, as to the appliance of the exercises offered bye Eckhart. I have a history of suppressing my feelings and emotions. I was an am very good at that.
So, when I let 'everything that is, to be' , and it happens very rapid and quickly (emotions rising and going)

Hi Waky,


Most often that's exactly how it happens. Feelings arise and move within seconds, although I am reluctant to say that usually because it can lead to the seeking to process a feeling very quickly and as soon as you are seeking to do that, you are not allowing the feeling just to be and arise as how it needs to.

When you start to see how feelings move in this space of allowing, you will wonder why you ever spent a lifetime (lifetimes) resisting or grasping them.






I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.
This is good, shows that your awareness is expanding and in that you are able to be aware of much more detail and sensitivity.

I would say though that these were feelings with a story attached to them. The story is the thought which is describing the feeling which is arising in the body and this occurs in the mind and if you are paying attention to why you are feeling like this, then you are giving your mind attention as well as the feeling. If you can get to the place where all attention is on the feeling, this will be most helpful. So, if the story arises which says "I am feeling like this because", then just acknowlege it as a thought in the mind and shift your attention back to the feeling.

Our feelings don't cause us suffering, it's the story attached to them.

You can use your attention with precision to focus directly on the feeling just as you would if you were in a room where you were aware things were going on but you had a very precise task to do like thread a needle; your surroundings would fade as your attention zoomed in on the eye of the needle.

A feeling is energy. Attention is energy. Energy moves energy so expect the feeling may move and you may need to move your attention where it goes. It is only your mind that tells you that you are limited to your body and therefore holds the feeling (energy) inside. When you stop paying attention to the mind and being led by it, then the energy can freely move around the whole of you - everywhere.


This is powerful, transformational work. :)


Jeanette

Ohhh Jenci,

What are you doing to me.
You get me all confused again :faint2:

Well.. food for reflection actually.
This is very useful to me... like always.


I would say though that these were feelings with a story attached to them. The story is the thought which is describing the feeling which is arising in the body and this occurs in the mind and if you are paying attention to why you are feeling like this, then you are giving your mind attention as well as the feeling. If you can get to the place where all attention is on the feeling, this will be most helpful. So, if the story arises which says "I am feeling like this because", then just acknowlege it as a thought in the mind and shift your attention back to the feeling.

This here might be just the thing I have to master and at the same time, it just might be one of the hardest things to do for me.
I am such a dweller of the mind...
But I do know now what the difference is.


When you start to see how feelings move in this space of allowing, you will wonder why you ever spent a lifetime (lifetimes) resisting or grasping them.

exactly! sometimes it looks so absurd to me that I have put so much energy in resistance in the past. I mean... I really stretched this game to it's limits I guess. That's why the story of the two wolves feels so important to me now. I was already aware of many things in me, but I fed the wrong wolf with my attempts to wrestle the diagnosed behaviours and self images out of me. This went on for about 20 years...
I can not begin to tell how releaving it feels that I'm finally start to do the things in a way that works.




I'll take a stab at it.

You were unplugged from the 3D world of cause and effect. The willingness to let go of the illusionary physical world to watch from the greater perspective allowed the officer to be on his way.

(You were not the experience or experiencer. You were the watcher of experiencing.) .

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QHGjBoUutpw/TIzdo9m-uLI/AAAAAAAAAFE/zGIqeHMTS04/s320/unplugged.jpg

jeej :o

[RunningDeer]

Doing 125 km/h (80 mph) where 80 km/h (50 mph) was allowed, thinking about the techniques (Forgot to notice that the highway was slowing down the speed limit in 2 stages), there was a patrol car entering in the rear view mirror pulling up behind me.
I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

So I became at peace with the situation and was even slightly interested to what this experience would be like, welcoming it almost.
The officer didn't pull me over, but steered his car next to mine and as we looked at each other, he nodded at me and drove of.

What exactly prevented the officer to pull me over and take my drivers licence, is food for speculation of course, but it is easy to speculate that my attitude influenced the course of the event energetically.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QHGjBoUutpw/TIzdo9m-uLI/AAAAAAAAAFE/zGIqeHMTS04/s320/unplugged.jpg

jeej :o

Love that picture!

You were unplugged from the 3D world of cause and effect. The willingness to let go of the illusionary physical world to watch from the greater perspective allowed the officer to be on his way.

(You were not the experience or experiencer. You were the watcher of experiencing.)

UPATE:

This is something I practice: http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/fish-1-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/fish-2-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

experiencer=experience=experiencing= (all one in the same)
Take no credit as the doer or action of doer or result of the doer.


I've added this before, but it demonstrate the above:

In 2005, Jim, my brother was building his home. I helped from time to time. This one day he was adding plywood to the roof. He was in a foul mood. It was hot, and he was tired. Rather than be around the ranting, I asked for another job. He had me pick up the excess straps of 2x4’s and plywood around the property.

I had been practicing how to move “out of time”, where I'd watch the body do it’s work in a rhythmic flow. No emotional attachment to the job or the result. I reported back to Jim. He couldn’t believe the job was done, but he could see the huge pile of wood. Jim had only laid two sheets of plywood. And as I write this I want to say maybe three sheets because it seems impossible for those two events to match up in a 3D world. He asked how I could've gotten so much done. My response was that I got out of my own way. The body worked while a part of me watched on. Jim asked no more questions, and I knew to not to offer. My family knows I have “strange” beliefs and our worlds are far apart. (no pun intended)

[RunningDeer]

5 year comparison of absorption of solar events from July 31, 2007 -July 31, 2012.
The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/Rio.html)

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Calz/5D_kitty.JPG

July 31, 2012

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July 31, 2011

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July 31, 2010

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July 31, 2009

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July 31, 2008

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July 31, 2007

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[Guest]

Lughnasdh
originally Bron Trogain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/islandblogging//blogs/000081/images/untitledgh.jpg




http://www.leyline.org/cra/articles/lughnasadh.html
From Kathleen Dupree comes an eloquent essay on the origins of this feast. She includes a little-known and poignant myth of Lugh's foster mother, the daughter of an older race, the Fir Bolg, conquered by the younger Tuatha De Dannan gods of Ireland:
...Lughnasadh is named for Lugh, the Celtic deity who presides over the arts and sciences. According to Celtic legend, Lugh decreed that a commemorative feast be held each year at the beginning of the harvest season to honor his foster mother, Tailtiu. Tailtiu was the royal Lady of the Fir Bolg. After the defeat of her people by the Tuatha De Dannan, she was obliged by them to clear a vast forest for the purpose of planting grain. She died of exhaustion in the attempt. The legend states that she was buried beneath a great mound named for her, at the spot where the first feast of Lughnasadh was held in Ireland, the hill of Tailte. At this gathering were held games and contests of skill as well as a great feast made up of the first fruits of the summer harvest.... ...As years passed, traditions surrounding the feast at Tailte began to solidify into events and ceremonial activities designed to celebrate not only Tailtiu and the bounty of the harvest that her original sacrifice provided but also to honor the work and sacrifice of human beings as they strove to provide sustenance for their families and community....
...With the coming of Christianity to the Celtic lands, the old festival of Lughnasadh took on Christian symbolism. Loaves of bread were baked from the first of the harvested grain and placed on the church altar on the first Sunday of August. The Christianized name for the feast of Lughnasadh is Lammas which means "loaf mass".... [Note: too many sites vanish from the web without notice -- that's why I offer long passages from some pages, "just in case."]

http://www.mythinglinks.org/Lammas.html


Aquarius Full Moon, August 1-2, 2012


We are the guardians of His Beauty.
We are the protectors
Of the Sun.

There is only one reason
We have followed God into this world:

To encourage laughter, freedom, dance
And love. ~ Hafiz



Our high summer full Moon falls on the old Celtic cross-quarter day of Lammas -- the first harvest. What have we harvested this year? What are the first fruits of our labors? It's always good to look back and see what we've accomplished -- it's often different than our expectations but also more than expected.

http://commenti.kataweb.it/commenti/multimedia/718261/2009/12/31/image/304241.jpg


Since the full Moon makes us aware of what we've planted at the previous new Moon, go back two weeks ago and remember what you intended for this month. You might remember that instead of the previous new Moon being the Leo New Moon, it was the Cancer New Moon. Cancer is concerned with our emotional body, the very concrete things in life which nurture us. Usually it's family as a container or land and a home which ground you. Having a secure emotional body helps us feel safe and less prone to fear, more creative and less likely to be bored, more loving and less likely to be alone.


The Aquarius/Leo Full Moon makes us aware of how much love and inner security we feel so we can create. Leo's gifts are an innate sense of Self/authenticity, a generous heart and an ability to lead. Aquarius asks us to consider the community, generate new ideas and allow everyone their freedom. What a mix! How generous can you be with allowing someone else the freedom of their beliefs? How can you be a leader in your community? What new paradigms does the Self (your authentic spiritual Being) open up for you and others? There is such a possibility for creativity during this Full Moon!


All the planets except for Pluto in Capricorn (Earth) and Neptune/Chiron in Pisces (Water) are in the Air and Fire elements. Air and Fire speak to possibilities and new awareness and creativity. Air moves and changes things; Air is the breath of Life. Fire burns in the forge of creativity and the fire circle of warmth as well as in the wilderness of destruction. Air and Fire need each other to grow, either for good or ill.
In the Fire trine, we have Uranus in Aries, the Sun and Mercury retrograde in Leo and the North Node of the Moon in Sagittarius. Aries fire is wild and new, powerful and bold. With Uranus there, we are stirred up to become more than our small, petty egos. We are called to Archetypal purpose. Leo's fire is centered and controlled, steady and available for use. With Sun and Mercury (the Mind) there, we can use our will for creative possibilities. The fire of Sagittarius wants to spread out, seeking goals with purpose and principle. The North Node turns the collective consciousness toward a common purpose. There's a lot of creative potential in this fire trine. How will you use it?


In the Air trine, we have Jupiter, Venus, Ceres, Vesta and the South Node of the Moon in Gemini, Mars and Saturn in Libra and the Moon in Aquarius. Gemini deals with the dissemination of information and learning to use both the intuitive and practical Minds together. With Jupiter aligned with so many of the feminine energies in Gemini, we can either have an overload of irrelevant information, or we can successfully unite both sides of the brain -- by asking our imaginations to tell us what is actually happening and then by asking our rational minds what to do about it.
Libra deals with partnerships, justice and the Arts. It is an action-oriented Air energy, constantly trying to strike the balance between opposites. Saturn has been moving through Libra for over two years now and will finish up its stay in November 2012. Saturn says pay attention and your relationships will be fair and just, equal and responsible. Mars brings some energy to relationships, so watch out for little nudges and tweeks from others -- perhaps they just want more attention. Aquarius deals with our collective Mind, both the collective consciousness and the Higher Archetypal Mind. The Moon there will open us to new ideas for our collective future that will nurture all of us.


With the Sun channeling the Fire trine opposite the Moon channeling the Air trine, this full Moon can be a perfect time to give your ideas, your art and your passion a test-drive in the collective consciousness. With the Internet's ability to reach the whole world, who knows what like-minded group of people you'll meet and share with. Use your Leo's natural generosity and openness to gather with like-minded people to share your creative vision.

http://www.opednews.com/populum/uploaded/rsz_aquariusfullmoon2012wriab1-331-20120728-168.jpg
Aquarius Full Moon 2012 by Cathy Pagano/Kepler (http://www.wisdom-of-astrology.com)


The Sabian Symbol for the Sun at 11* Leo is: Children play on a swing hanging from the branches of a huge oak tree. This image suggests that we have to "become children again' -- (engage our imaginations) and hang and play, suspended on the great old traditions that have sustained us. For example, if we look at our traditional ideals about the American Revolution, how can we play with our part in a continuing revolution of Freedom and evolution of Human Consciousness?
The Sabian Symbol for the Moon at 11* Aquarius is: During a silent hour, a man receives a new inspiration which may change his life. When our ego-consciousness quiets down and we listen inside, we can receive life-changing messages. We just have to believe in them, which doesn't mean mindlessly following a message that goes against your deepest moral values. When a message comes to us that is centered in our personal values -- not in the cultural values of state and church -- then listen, for I've seen those messages change people's lives. Sometimes these messages come to us in dreams and visions -- so learn symbolic language to understand what messages are trying to come through.
From the green forests, rocky farmlands and watery shores of Rhode Island, may your harvests be fruitful!
Blessed Be!

http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Cosmic-Story-Aquarius-by-Cathy-Lynn-Pagano-120728-104.html







Love


Nora

[Flash]

[QUOTE=Wakytweaky;530374]

I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

Just a little comment, Walkytweaky, if it can be helpful, but it seem to me that you are not mentioning emotions here, but what you are telling yourself during or before the emotions arise. This, to me, seems different from emotions.

For example, I would tell myself "Oh my Gosh, my daughter's father is still in a tweaked (lol) mood, he will be difficult to handle" then the emotion arising from it is either fear, disapointment or anger. It does help for me to name the emotion directly, because it is often the first thing I feel, even if my mind has been running amock with little develish sentences for a while beforehand.

And what I tell/told myself will impact on what is happening in the given situation in terms or emotions. For example, if I replace the sentence by "Oh, (take off my Gosh to take off the intensity) "Oh, my daughter's father seems (not is) in a tweaked mood, what will I do to handle it?" you see, it change the perspective and my emotions are then may be still disapointment, then bits of sadness for the situation, then a feeling of empowerment because I can do something

I realised a while ago that to change the situation and the emotion, I would have to change what I tell myseif, my selftalk. I also realised that if the emotions arising are not clearly named, they will bottle up instead of changing, and the overall work will be kind of wasted.

I hope this help.

So, walkytweaky, what were the emotion going with the self talk?;)

Thank You FLash,

It's true that I'm not sure to what exactly happens and what to call the different stages of the process.

To point it back at what happened with the speeding and the patrol officer:
I felt and spark (physical sensation of energy) that was coming from somewhere in the gut or stomach, rising up to the chest and head, becoming a picture of what will maybe happen (thought or just a mental picture?) and this is accompanied with a feeling of building fear and panic (emotion?).
It might be that I'm telling myself: Oops, I'm busted etc..., but I experience it as a mental picture mostly and I merely tried to give words to it.
So what is it... telling myself something, mental picture, thoughts? I get confused about these things :)


If I'm correct, what you are talking about is a form of NLP (neuro linguistic programming) which is a technique that is aiming to change the experience that you are having.
What I talk about is a technique that is aiming to allow all that presents itself to us (thoughts, feelings and emotions) to be there, without judging it or identifying with it. Just let it flow through us and allowing it free passage as one would with a bird flying bye.
How we play with this are different techniques if I'm not mistaken.

I recently talked to someone here on the forum who practices both techniques at the same time actually and he teaches it to friends and family with success.
I still have my reservations about this for myself, but it seems to be working for others.

My intended little comment is getting larger.

Felt a spark with accompanying feeling of fear: emotions yes
Telling myself, mental picture: automatic unconscious thought based most probably on previous experience, yes

NLP aiming at changing the experience: you are right on that, NLP can be used to changed the emotional experience, and it is the example I gave - my mistake.
Because NLP could also be used only to become aware of what is going on, without changing the experience, in this case we would only look at the first sentence and check it out in my example.
Allowing the emotion to be there without judging, meaning accepting and living the experience in the moment, is great. Knowing in the moment that what we live is an emotion and that the mental abilities can block it by putting words/images on it is, in my idea, essential.
Then, if we want to change it for any reason, we could go to the next step.

My point is, that by naming what is lived (verbal or visual thoughts and emotions), or by realising what is lived, we become more conscious and less of an automaton. First step to becoming the observer and the experimenter at once (at the same time).

The next step could be, if we desire, the creator step. Changing the experience of the experiencer and the observation of the observer. Creating our own reality, then creating our own collective reality for what we would deem better. You can, at this place, start the baby step by changing your mind talk or picture right when it emerges. The experience will change automatically and the overall energy going with it.

I found a video that seems quite interesting on these aspect, if you have the time to put for it. Some points of interest:

1. It is from Google talks, and I just learn that google is actively involved in studying the neurological system of human on their premises and is sharing their findings (at least some ) with the public. I am pretty sure of how they will use the web with those findings. Bit scary.
2. At minute 14.56 the video describes the different steps that emotions go through in a normal being:

a) A description of everything known that has an impact on emotions and the changes in them, positive or negative, that you are conscious of it or not.
b) The step for emotions regulations (those are mostly automatic), thinking a certain way changes the meaning/interpretation (here becoming an observer is interesting)
c) The shift of attention towards the stressor of away from it are two possible behaviors having an impact
d) Appraisal of the situation
e) Cognitive reappraisal leading to intepretation
f) How do I view how my mind works (here we are full fledge in the observer).

Lots of time we do not even get consciously past step C, so my point is to become more conscious of the process, this will lead to stronger being less potentially influenced by the outside world. And become creator of positively oriented environment for the well being of all.

The subsequent part resume:
Emotion reactivity (limbic system) ---- Regulating (Cortical System) -- Modulation of intensity and interpreting mediated through our view itself and our language usage.

Minute 22.18 describes waht emotional intelligence is in comparison with not having emotions/not living them (blocking). It mentions that greater emotional intelligence correlates, in the brain itself, with lesser need for control (the control parts of the brain do not light up as much).

So yes, your desire to live the emotions and let go are in direct correlation in the brain.

What I find interesting is that all those steps above do correspond as well with what spiritual masters have been describing for ages, for beginners on the path.

At minute 32.54 they talk about compassion and capacity to care, love and compassion are a necessity, not a luxury because without them humanity cannot survive.

Would the tide be turning around and away from the psychopaths?????


Miinute 41.16: meditation protect the gray matter from decaying with aging, scientifically proven WOW

Minute 52.08: Creswell study on emotion labelling in MRI: labelling help to reduce amygdalia activity, it modifies the brain. Emotion expression is helpful if skillfully done but can also backfire. This is why I was mentioning labelling, not expressing necessarily.

Google sponsor talk and research at Standford University:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShDYA3NFVs&feature=related

edit: Cannot embed the video and I have no idea why. The other problem I have is when I want to put an emoticon on the line, it shows up at the top of the whole post. I have to copy paste to have it at the right place.

[Mark]

Thanks WCBD and Nora. Dan, a diagnosis leads to treatment. Now y'all can find the natural and holistic alternative to whatever the docs prescribe! LOL j/k, I'm sure you will all come to the best decision about what is best for the young man going forward. My parents weren't hippies but I was, look at that collar!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17616&d=1343795623

I even had a brown leather vest with fringes on it! I kept that thing till it only had 3 or 4 fringes left on it!

WCBD, everything happens for a reason, doesn't it ... leaving the system was hard. Losing everything was devastating. But it taught me how to be. Reminded me, rather. At some level, I was happy it was all gone. I still have very little. But when more comes into my life, I will know exactly what it is worth.

Nora, your experience sounds wonderful. For over a year before I left Texas in 2010 I was doing sweatlodges in the Apache and Mexican styles at least twice a month. I miss them so much. I'm in Canada now, just a quarter mile from these folks:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seDGT4cxhk0

I may have the opportunity to interact on a close basis with them soon. I'm hoping. I miss the darkness, the grandmothers and the fire and the feeling of coming out of the lodge into the cool dark. Bless.

[Calz]

My parents weren't hippies but I was, look at that collar!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17616&d=1343795623




Nice :)

I am shamefully admitting to having a photo from high school where I was wearing a gold medallion :shocked:

No I won't digitize and share it ... burning it much more appropriate ...


http://www.fanciedress.co.uk/images/99675_p.jpg


Not me but you get the idea :doh:


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[Anchor]

Hi all - been busy.

I just had a "moment" over on another forum and I like what my HS(?) bought me.

I was in a thread on another (Law Of One based) forum talking about the way in which the Tarot was used in the Law Of One where in Ra says of the Tarot:

http://lawofone.info/results.php?s=76&v=e&sc=1&ss=1#6


Ra:I am Ra. The origin of this system of study and divination is twofold: firstly, there is that influence which, coming in a distorted fashion from those who were priests attempting to teach the Law of One in Egypt, gave form to the understanding, if you will pardon the misnomer, which they had received. These forms were then made a regular portion of the learn/teachings of an initiate. The second influence is that of those entities in the lands you call Ur, Chaldea, and Mesopotamia who, from old, had received the, shall we say, data for which they called having to do with the heavens. Thusly we find two methods of divination being melded into one with uneven results; the, as you call it, astrology and the form being combined to suggest what you might call the correspondences which are typical of the distortions you may see as attempts to view archetypes.

All these "distortions" could be considered off putting for someone looking for answers in the study of Tarot, and I was considering this when my moment happened.

I then wrote this:


I think the core of Ra's message here is the ever present necessity for discernment.
There are no accuracy guarantees.
The tarot are tools for exploration, a structured approach to a vast spectrum of knowledge after the fashion of a well organized teaching curriculum.
What you explore and what you find will be different compared with each other self on the same exploration, we all walk a different path no matter how we walk it and no matter what structured approaches we follow.
The path, as with the truth, is both within us and therefore in all. We are that - for all is one.
We all know this intellectually, yet we do not grasp it.

Half of that language does not appear to me to be mine - it is right out the law of one style.

It was not like when I channel my higher self, but there was a lot of similarity.

[ViralSpiral]

I think the core of Ra's message here is the ever present necessity for discernment.
There are no accuracy guarantees.
The tarot are tools for exploration, a structured approach to a vast spectrum of knowledge after the fashion of a well organized teaching curriculum.
What you explore and what you find will be different compared with each other self on the same exploration, we all walk a different path no matter how we walk it and no matter what structured approaches we follow.
The path, as with the truth, is both within us and therefore in all. We are that - for all is one.
We all know this intellectually, yet we do not grasp it.





LOVED this!!

You should have "moments" more often :)

[ViralSpiral]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17616&d=1343795623




Awww bless!! What a fine keeper of peace you have become. So glad you're here!
I have never tried a sweat-lodge. I should. There's much to be sweated out! :o

[ViralSpiral]

We are the guardians of His Beauty.
We are the protectors
Of the Sun.

There is only one reason
We have followed God into this world:

To encourage laughter, freedom, dance
And love. ~ Hafiz


Nora


How is it that so few words can turn the taps? Are they happy tears? Sad? Some kind of longing?
Cant be the moon, its only a balloon :rolleyes:
There has been much talk about "free will". It takes conscious effort to wake up and be in a good mood and given a choice, I would prefer to dance. Our feelings and emotions are energy, and as such are meant to move.


http://www.9newz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/3947959607.jpg

http://www.crystalinks.com/whirlingdancers.gif

[meeradas]

just in case

[meeradas]

just found this:

Cat Mayor (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-17/news/32717871_1_honorary-mayor-alaska-town-mayoral-election)

[good choice]

[1inMany]

These odd and strange things...I never know what's coming, ya know? I mean, really, it's 3:45am - usually my best sleeping. This morning, though, I awoke right after 1am. I was sleeping like a baby, restful and peaceful and so soundly. Sometime around 1:00 I started to rouse, and thought it must be after 7am because I felt like I had slept all night. Except for this itching. No bites, no bugs, no reason to itch. The bottom of my feet, my head, my ears, my eyelashes even itch. No new laundry or body soap, no new foods introduced, no reason to itch. I have searched for hives, none. It's the weirdest thing. It's an inside itch, ever had one of those? Like I'm allergic to something, but it is in my bloodstream. I have decided it must be another stage in this...development...I'm going through. My body must be releasing more toxins. I think it is wonderful they are being released, because then they will be gone. Well, at least this round will be gone. I've already gone through my digestive and respiratory systems...and as irritating as it is to itch on every square inch of my body, I prefer the itch to those.

I can't decide why I am hesitant to share these days. Not one of you have expressed concern regarding my sanity until now, on the contrary you have all encouraged me to continue allowing Me to express Myself through me. I don't know what I would have done if I had not found you all when I did to tell you the truth. There was not one single person in my life in whom I would have confided the revelations I have had in the past 6 months or so. I'm not sure if it is fear that is keeping me from further sharing of my here and now, my amazing ride from "Little Ole Me" to "Holy Crap!" I think that as each day passes, each insight comes to me, each layer of the onion is peeled away, what I am seeing and understanding and knowing is so unbelievable and so unreal and so incredible that to any other group of people I might sound crazy. I know I would. Here and Now, though, this Village has kept me sane. Why am I having such a hard time here? Grrrr.

I doubt I will be able to sleep, but the itching has subsided to only once every few minutes instead of constantly, so I will try.

Much Love, my online family :)

i believe

[ViralSpiral]

Not one of you have expressed concern regarding my sanity until now,


This made me laugh out really loud. I certainly aint gonna question your lucidity.
I, after-all, am at a village tea-party


http://rlv.zcache.com/the_mad_hatter_asks_alice_why_be_normal_sticker-p217011802283684913bah05_400.jpg

Having a hard time is what you get for being awake :p

[Calz]

I, after-all, am at a village tea-party




http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/funny-celebrity-pictures-why-be-normal-wheres-the-fun-in-that.jpg

[ViralSpiral]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn240/horsesrules12/The_Mad_Hatter.jpg

[Jenci]

Ohhh Jenci,

What are you doing to me.
You get me all confused again :faint2:

Well.. food for reflection actually.
This is very useful to me... like always.



Confusion is very good :nod:

The nature of mind is that it is needs to make sense, organise, solve problems. Very often we find that we only get to the point of surrendering the mind when it is so confused it cannot work it out.


The reality is that "you" are not confused, your mind is. But you are not your mind, yet the mind cannot understand this, because this is beyond it, therefore beyond its understanding.


There are plenty of techniques to use, all adding to the confusion but to simplify, techniques fall into two catergories

(A) those which involve the use of the mind

(B) those which don't use the mind and therefore take the person to the place beyond the mind (connection with source, HS, spirit, whatever you want to call it)

Some people find that techniques which involve the mind, category (A) can be very effective. The mind can be trained and tamed and the person doing it can end up with a very pleasant and comfortable life because of it but I could compare this to a dog who gets trained to perform tricks and behave, it's great, it's happy.... but it is not free.


The mind is a veil which obscures the true self so to have direct experience of the true self/source/HS you need to go beyond the mind and in transcending it, the veil gets lifted.

A mind trained with mental techniques is still a veil which obscures the source/HS. Now the mind may tell a story that because it has evolved to behave in certain ways, that this is now the connection with the source/HS but this is just a story that it tells and if one story is believed, then a thousand will be believed.

In some ways this "spiritual mind/ego" can be more problematic than the prior misbehaving mind/ego because life has got better and it believes that it has reached the source/HS when, in fact, it is preventing that connection by its new spiritual/well behaved identity.


Eckhart's techniques fall into the category of going beyond the mind, category (B) and they are good techniques although the mind can co-opt the technique and make it its own. I have come across people practising his techniques but they have ended up with a mind/ego trying to get into the "Now" which creates the spiritual mind/ego which thinks it has reached home when it hasn't.

Personally I found his techniques as a good introduction but then needed to supplement with other teachings, perhaps more heavyweight, which were finer tuned to pick up the subtleties of when the mind was coming in to do the work.

One question that I have found which has helped me many times is "What do I really want?" and I have used this question by asking it and taking it within.

Invariably I find that to have what I really want, I have to do the thing I don't want to do. The contemplation of this question alone has destroyed many of my mind's delusions about what techniques and paths to follow.


Thank you for sharing your exploration to the Self. It's humbling and inspiring to read. :)
Jeanette

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5 year comparison of absorption of solar events from July 31, 2007 -July 31, 2012.
The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/Rio.html)


So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette

[Anchor]

I think the core of Ra's message here is the ever present necessity for discernment.
There are no accuracy guarantees.
The tarot are tools for exploration, a structured approach to a vast spectrum of knowledge after the fashion of a well organized teaching curriculum.
What you explore and what you find will be different compared with each other self on the same exploration, we all walk a different path no matter how we walk it and no matter what structured approaches we follow.
The path, as with the truth, is both within us and therefore in all. We are that - for all is one.
We all know this intellectually, yet we do not grasp it.





LOVED this!!

You should have "moments" more often :)

Thanks....

This gives one something else to ponder - if we are not all one, then were are we in the scheme of things? I just do not think its possible.

http://i.imgur.com/q1r3N.jpg

[RunningDeer]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette
It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

[ulli]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette
It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Should I google The Pauler? Anything to do with Paul, the moderator?

[Jenci]

Ohhh Jenci,

What are you doing to me.
You get me all confused again :faint2:

Well.. food for reflection actually.
This is very useful to me... like always.



Confusion is very good :nod:

The nature of mind is that it is needs to make sense, organise, solve problems. Very often we find that we only get to the point of surrendering the mind when it is so confused it cannot work it out.


The reality is that "you" are not confused, your mind is. But you are not your mind, yet the mind cannot understand this, because this is beyond it, therefore beyond its understanding.


There are plenty of techniques to use, all adding to the confusion but to simplify, techniques fall into two catergories

(A) those which involve the use of the mind

(B) those which don't use the mind and therefore take the person to the place beyond the mind (connection with source, HS, spirit, whatever you want to call it)

Some people find that techniques which involve the mind, category (A) can be very effective. The mind can be trained and tamed and the person doing it can end up with a very pleasant and comfortable life because of it but I could compare this to a dog who gets trained to perform tricks and behave, it's great, it's happy.... but it is not free.


The mind is a veil which obscures the true self so to have direct experience of the true self/source/HS you need to go beyond the mind and in transcending it, the veil gets lifted.

A mind trained with mental techniques is still a veil which obscures the source/HS. Now the mind may tell a story that because it has evolved to behave in certain ways, that this is now the connection with the source/HS but this is just a story that it tells and if one story is believed, then a thousand will be believed.

In some ways this "spiritual mind/ego" can be more problematic than the prior misbehaving mind/ego because life has got better and it believes that it has reached the source/HS when, in fact, it is preventing that connection by its new spiritual/well behaved identity.


Eckhart's techniques fall into the category of going beyond the mind, category (B) and they are good techniques although the mind can co-opt the technique and make it its own. I have come across people practising his techniques but they have ended up with a mind/ego trying to get into the "Now" which creates the spiritual mind/ego which thinks it has reached home when it hasn't.

Personally I found his techniques as a good introduction but then needed to supplement with other teachings, perhaps more heavyweight, which were finer tuned to pick up the subtleties of when the mind was coming in to do the work.

One question that I have found which has helped me many times is "What do I really want?" and I have used this question by asking it and taking it within.

Invariably I find that to have what I really want, I have to do the thing I don't want to do. The contemplation of this question alone has destroyed many of my mind's delusions about what techniques and paths to follow.


Thank you for sharing your exploration to the Self. It's humbling and inspiring to read. :)
Jeanette




How's this for synchronicity, I have just been watching the video of Mooji that ljwheat put up in this thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45788-WHO-IS-IT--silent-watcher---knowing-the-knower---seeing-the-see-er--Spirit&p=530587#post530587 and I hear him making the distinction between the two types of techniques I was referring to.




In this video we get to see how the spiritual teacher enables the student to deepen their inquiry to go beyond the mind. It's a long video but the first segment shows a man who has been on the spiritual journey but is now finding that emotions and trauma from the past have been bubbling up to the point of it becoming unbearable. This emotional suffering is very common in the spiritual journey.

Begin the video at 5 minutes.

Notice at 10.50 how Mooji asks the question to the man, "Who suffers?". Notice how he stresses again "Who?" This is a question the mind can never understand so the mind dismisses it and the man carries on. Watch in the exchange how Mooji sees this and stops the man by telling him to slow down and then he redirects him back to the question of "Who?"

This inquiry into the identity of the "I" that cannot take the pain, is a technique in category (B) which goes beyond the mind.

At 13.12 Mooji also states the difference between the two categories of techniques.

He says "The therapist will look at what you cannot take any longer but I will look at who cannot take it"

Looking at what you cannot take is delving into the mind (A) whereas looking at who cannot take it (B), it something that the mind cannot understand, therefore if the inquiry of "who" is pursued, it will take you beyond the mind.


Mooji goes on to say at around 14.00:

"Unquestioned identity is speaking and as long as the identity remains intact, its suffering will remain.

This can stop now. What must stop now?...a delusion. A wrong identity can stop today. But it has to be clear and it has to be genuine. These things cannot be transcended by merely intellectual reasoning. It has to be an in-seeing, an insight"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtos5qHh7D8&feature=player_embedded#!


source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtos5qHh7D8&feature=player_embedded#!

[Jenci]

This gives one something else to ponder - if we are not all one, then were are we in the scheme of things? I just do not think its possible.

http://i.imgur.com/q1r3N.jpg


Thanks John, for putting me in my place :lol:


Jeanette

[Jenci]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette
It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)


My son said to me this morning "Mum, this solar flare is a fake. I'm just angry because I want to be angry"

How's that for honesty ;)

[RunningDeer]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette

It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

UPDATE: DOUBLE POST. I didn't know this was uploaded. I went and downloaded a different browser because mine keeps crashing when I'm on forum. Grrr.

FYI: This post will be delete by the big guys.

===

[Mod-edit: nah -- then I'd have to delete the replies as well -- seems ok the way it is :). -Paul.]

[ulli]

just in case

I wonder if it blinks from one Now to the next?

[Jenci]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette

It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

UPDATE: DOUBLE POST. I didn't know this was uploaded. I went and downloaded a different browser because mine keeps crashing when I'm on forum. Grrr.


The forum was down for a few minutes.

[Mark]

LOL Calz! Scan the pic! We wanna see!



Awww bless!! What a fine keeper of peace you have become. So glad you're here!
I have never tried a sweat-lodge. I should. There's much to be sweated out! :o

Thank you VS! Yes, there is much to be sweated out. LOL I'm sure everybody remembers the unfortunate circumstances surrounding James Ray and the sweat lodge deaths (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-18/sweat-lodge-sentencing/51298530/1) he was responsible for.

For that and other reasons, if you decide to do sweats, I highly recommend that you do so with someone whose tradition it is, not someone who has built a lodge in their backyard or who is "selling spirituality" in this manner. All I know about the case above is what I read online about it but from what I could tell he viewed sweats as some sort of endurance-concentration thing, which it so is not.

Whoever leads the lodge must be a true shaman. Must have the ability to see and communicate with the tecanchilas, the spirits. Must have the ability to read people psychically and tell what is going on with them, that way they know going into the sweat what can potentially happen. My Apache friend who used to lead some of the sweats I was involved in would carefully place people according to the 4 directions and the strength of the individuals. If new people would come, he would place them between certain other people because once that flap closes and the darkness begins, the grandmothers are glowing and the water is poured? Anything can happen. People lose their minds. It's best to have someone there who knows how to deal with such things.

It's not a physical exercise, it is a spiritual one. You learn who you are at core within the lodge because you come face to face with yourself under extreme duress that is, simultaneously, comforting and freeing at the same time. You must be totally in the Now moment.

A wonderful tool for self-realization that I highly recommend.

[RunningDeer]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette

It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

UPDATE: DOUBLE POST. I didn't know this was uploaded. I went and downloaded a different browser because mine keeps crashing when I'm on forum. Grrr.


The forum was down for a few minutes.

Oh. man. THANK YOU! I run a small business out of my apartment and I thought it was my browser. Whew! That explains why I could still upload files for the school.

[RunningDeer]

So from those graphs, this year more than the other years !.....that's my interpretation in simple non-graph language, lol

Jeanette
It's a graphic acknowledgement that says to me, "No, you are not crazy. Yes, that wacko energy you are feeling IS real. And that wacko energy is not 'the Pauler'." http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/bottle-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Should I google The Pauler? Anything to do with Paul, the moderator?

Just playing with "my name". Pauler=Paula with RI accent. Example: idea=idear:moil:

Just for the heck of it I googled, "The Pauler". There are sites. Go figure. :wave:

[ViralSpiral]

LOL Calz! Scan the pic! We wanna see!





I agree. Strongly! :)




For that and other reasons, if you decide to do sweats, I highly recommend that you do so with someone whose tradition it is, not someone who has built a lodge in their backyard or who is "selling spirituality" in this manner. All I know about the case above is what I read online about it but from what I could tell he viewed sweats as some sort of endurance-concentration thing, which it so is not.

Whoever leads the lodge must be a true shaman. Must have the ability to see and communicate with the tecanchilas, the spirits. Must have the ability to read people psychically and tell what is going on with them, that way they know going into the sweat what can potentially happen. My Apache friend who used to lead some of the sweats I was involved in would carefully place people according to the 4 directions and the strength of the individuals. If new people would come, he would place them between certain other people because once that flap closes and the darkness begins, the grandmothers are glowing and the water is poured? Anything can happen. People lose their minds. It's best to have someone there who knows how to deal with such things.

It's not a physical exercise, it is a spiritual one. You learn who you are at core within the lodge because you come face to face with yourself under extreme duress that is, simultaneously, comforting and freeing at the same time. You must be totally in the Now moment.

A wonderful tool for self-realization that I highly recommend.


Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. So no worries :cool:
I have read a lot about the lodges and even looked around my area. Too many Germans http://usefulshortcuts.com/imgs/skype-basic/emoticon-0136-giggle.png

[ulli]

This morning's NextworldTV was quite good...it's about sharing a room in one's home with world travelers. This could hurt the Holiday Inns of this world.

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/new-economy/air-b--b-sharing-economy.html

[Mark]

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. So no worries :cool:
I have read a lot about the lodges and even looked around my area. Too many Germans

LOL

Well, the kind of "losing of the mind" I am talking about is when the water is poured and the steam rises, hits the top of the lodge and billows directly onto the top of your head and the rest of your body and the temperature reaches up to 110 degrees Fahrenheit, and every iota of your being is screaming to you, GEEEEEEET OOUUUUUUUUUUTTTT!

But it's not just you. It's also the negative entities inside of you, who come screaming out of your body and can and will enter into others in near proximity unless there is someone leading the sweat who is trained in the ceremonies and chants and medicines to use in order to release them from the lodge and the ceremonial circle the lodge is within.

Apparently there is a European sweating (http://www.maartenelout.com/com/european-sweat-lodge-roots.html) tradition too!

Here's another one (http://www.northernshamanism.org/shamanic-techniques/altered-state/fire-and-water-sauna-purification.html) that looks interesting, maybe if you're in Northern Europe you can follow up on these!

[ViralSpiral]

if you're in Northern Europe


Munich *cough* . http://www.4livemessenger.com/emoticons/emoticon_%20%28121%29.gif

Yes, I do realise what you meant.
In May I went for a quiet waddle through the wilderness with a few people. Was meant to be a 5 - 7 km gentle walk. Turned into a 20km heated (40 degrees Celsius) struggle, as my head whistled like a kettle. I too was screaming at our guide: GEEEEEEET OOUUUUUUUUUUTTTT!
The GPS's batteries had gone flat. We were lost. Whats wrong with ye old compass, 'eh??
Anyhoo, free sweat-lodge, right there. Under G*ds gorgeous canopy. The demons nearly took him out at the knee-caps!

[ulli]

Look at what is coming our way right now. Barbados is that tiny little island in the top left corner and the 'blob' has a 60 % chance of being upgraded to a hurricane at any moment.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcsasec6ir404.gifhttp://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcsasec6ir404.gif

[Mark]

Goodness, Ulli! Seek shelter! ! ! !

Ah that's great, VS, I went to Munich for an Oktoberfest once when I was a soldier stationed in Kaiserslautern back in the late 80s. Great city! ! !

[Carmody]

Ohhh Jenci,

What are you doing to me.
You get me all confused again :faint2:

Well.. food for reflection actually.
This is very useful to me... like always.



Confusion is very good :nod:

The nature of mind is that it is needs to make sense, organise, solve problems. Very often we find that we only get to the point of surrendering the mind when it is so confused it cannot work it out.


The reality is that "you" are not confused, your mind is. But you are not your mind, yet the mind cannot understand this, because this is beyond it, therefore beyond its understanding.


There are plenty of techniques to use, all adding to the confusion but to simplify, techniques fall into two catergories

(A) those which involve the use of the mind

(B) those which don't use the mind and therefore take the person to the place beyond the mind (connection with source, HS, spirit, whatever you want to call it)

Some people find that techniques which involve the mind, category (A) can be very effective. The mind can be trained and tamed and the person doing it can end up with a very pleasant and comfortable life because of it but I could compare this to a dog who gets trained to perform tricks and behave, it's great, it's happy.... but it is not free.


The mind is a veil which obscures the true self so to have direct experience of the true self/source/HS you need to go beyond the mind and in transcending it, the veil gets lifted.

A mind trained with mental techniques is still a veil which obscures the source/HS. Now the mind may tell a story that because it has evolved to behave in certain ways, that this is now the connection with the source/HS but this is just a story that it tells and if one story is believed, then a thousand will be believed.

In some ways this "spiritual mind/ego" can be more problematic than the prior misbehaving mind/ego because life has got better and it believes that it has reached the source/HS when, in fact, it is preventing that connection by its new spiritual/well behaved identity.


Eckhart's techniques fall into the category of going beyond the mind, category (B) and they are good techniques although the mind can co-opt the technique and make it its own. I have come across people practising his techniques but they have ended up with a mind/ego trying to get into the "Now" which creates the spiritual mind/ego which thinks it has reached home when it hasn't.

Personally I found his techniques as a good introduction but then needed to supplement with other teachings, perhaps more heavyweight, which were finer tuned to pick up the subtleties of when the mind was coming in to do the work.

One question that I have found which has helped me many times is "What do I really want?" and I have used this question by asking it and taking it within.

Invariably I find that to have what I really want, I have to do the thing I don't want to do. The contemplation of this question alone has destroyed many of my mind's delusions about what techniques and paths to follow.


Thank you for sharing your exploration to the Self. It's humbling and inspiring to read. :)
Jeanette




How's this for synchronicity, I have just been watching the video of Mooji that ljwheat put up in this thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45788-WHO-IS-IT--silent-watcher---knowing-the-knower---seeing-the-see-er--Spirit&p=530587#post530587 and I hear him making the distinction between the two types of techniques I was referring to.




In this video we get to see how the spiritual teacher enables the student to deepen their inquiry to go beyond the mind. It's a long video but the first segment shows a man who has been on the spiritual journey but is now finding that emotions and trauma from the past have been bubbling up to the point of it becoming unbearable. This emotional suffering is very common in the spiritual journey.

Begin the video at 5 minutes.

Notice at 10.50 how Mooji asks the question to the man, "Who suffers?". Notice how he stresses again "Who?" This is a question the mind can never understand so the mind dismisses it and the man carries on. Watch in the exchange how Mooji sees this and stops the man by telling him to slow down and then he redirects him back to the question of "Who?"

This inquiry into the identity of the "I" that cannot take the pain, is a technique in category (B) which goes beyond the mind.

At 13.12 Mooji also states the difference between the two categories of techniques.

He says "The therapist will look at what you cannot take any longer but I will look at who cannot take it"

Looking at what you cannot take is delving into the mind (A) whereas looking at who cannot take it (B), it something that the mind cannot understand, therefore if the inquiry of "who" is pursued, it will take you beyond the mind.


Mooji goes on to say at around 14.00:

"Unquestioned identity is speaking and as long as the identity remains intact, its suffering will remain.

This can stop now. What must stop now?...a delusion. A wrong identity can stop today. But it has to be clear and it has to be genuine. These things cannot be transcended by merely intellectual reasoning. It has to be an in-seeing, an insight"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtos5qHh7D8&feature=player_embedded#!


source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtos5qHh7D8&feature=player_embedded#!

This is a difficult path as the I we tend to identify is a situation where the interpreter/translator is being mistaken as being the being itself. Where the I is the signature I/0 (Input/output) of the body's interface. It has no real intellect but it does have emotions and it does have the fear of death and dissolution.

one could say that this tenacity and misidentification is a critical function to have in place in order to have the body and the occupant fully connected to one another, until that moment when the body dies,and the occupant is on their own again, regarding interface with this 3d world.

The drawback is that unless this critical difference in knowing is clearly navigated by the occupant, they will remain in the animal state where the interface of the body and it's controls will dominate the experience of being incarnated.

the issues is to calm the body at the same time one finds a way to detach from the bond...ever so slightly. To re-address the fundamental of the point of integration into what one might call the real adult stage or state.

In a consensus reality system where the vast majority are still in this unknowing juvenile state, this pressure and lack of illuminated reflection can cause a difficulty in realizing this more elevated state of correct human adulthood.

This is something that people should learn to navigate as children, not as confused and befuddled juvenile/adults, who have built up decades of established baggage that should not be there, which is impeding their way and progress in this matter.

'To learn as children?', you ask? I say yes, likely so...for the given occupant has a clear head, and then the child's impudent impetus would be tamed and calmed at the point of actual mental formation. Where it should be done, in my estimation. Perhaps I am wrong in that, but it sure would be an interesting outcome, to say the least.

[RunningDeer]

Sharing Economy I love this. “Access is more powerful than ownership.” So many, many great ideas from this vid.

Air B&B - YouTube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaOFuW011G8&feature=player_embedded) count is 1,437,538. I’ll just create a link and leave the vid off. It’s about sharing home space. But larger concept is perfect solution to keeping resources to a minimum, and bringing the community together through resource sharing.

My secret wish "was" to have a cart with an umbrella and make big pots of macrobiotic stew. Donations accepted. People would come to share stories of the day. And more people would set up their umbrella carts. We'd be the "Community of Umbrella Carts on Wednesdays".

My "hidden agenda" was two fold: nurture their bodies & pass along a new way of seeing the world. Go ahead...I'll pause while you laugh. It's okay, in fact, I'm doing it right now.

I see now that is not up to me to heal their bodies. And my knowledge base is upgrading so fast that I'm afraid the information I'd share is outdated in weeks, day, and hours. It's a "good news bad news" thing. Ah, duality makes the world go round and round. Whew, just for a little while longer.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Calz/images.JPG


This morning's NextworldTV was quite good...it's about sharing a room in one's home with world travelers. This could hurt the Holiday Inns of this world.

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/new-economy/air-b--b-sharing-economy.html

[ulli]

This is something that people should learn to navigate as children, not as confused and befuddled juvenile/adults, who have built up decades of established baggage that should not be there, which is impeding their way and progress in this matter.

'To learn as children?', you ask? I say yes, likely so...for the given occupant has a clear head, and then the child's impudent impetus would be tamed and calmed at the point of actual mental formation. Where it should be done, in my estimation. Perhaps I am wrong in that, but it sure would be an interesting outcome, to say the least.


This is why I would love for my grandsons to get the training that is demonstrated in Christian's new thread.

B2DXdFYDXCk

[RunningDeer]

just in case

Just so you'll know, meeradas, love this! I'm keeping it and gave it a 'make over'. Dear Here and Nowers...someday, you may see this again. Just sayin'.

Calz, I kid-nabbed-the-pic. Ally McBeal, great show.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/Now_watch.JPG

[Calz]

LOL Calz! Scan the pic! We wanna see!




OMG - now even Admin Dude is asking me to do shadow work :scared:


Hold that thought (until you forget about it) and accept some "hippy era music".

If I already posted it in this thread (600 pages ago) then forgive me as an old hippy with burned out brain cells ... I simply cannot remember ...


4mCKLt7A6sA


... and for any other old timers out there who appreciate growing old gracefully ...


9XWmwvT8bCw

[RunningDeer]

"A Recipes for a Confusion Stew"

Unfinished objectives: to overlay I AM + I am experiencer + moving into new Mother Earth + dimensions + http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/delete2-smiley.gif?1292867581 + http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/yapyapyap-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Unfinished ideas:
Reconcile the 3D, organic, carbon based individual experiencer that lives the day-to-day is awakening to a part of everything all moving as one holographic Whole, ie., 4D, crystaline based DNA into 5D, energenic essence body of I Am experiencing. Blah, blah, blah. Ultimately it’s Allness/Absolute without driven in form of problem, action, solution, but just Silence, Grace of All...Blah, blah, blah...

I mean no disrespect. It's frustrating. I've dropped out of the world. I've spent years in study. More hours in study than I'd want to admit. I am more confused than when I walked out the door of my classroom in 2004. Where is was a safe, comfy salary and secure job. But, I'd do it all over again, just in a balanced way.

3D = material, mind, ego, self
4D = less material, awareness of Higher Self perception more than physical
5D =

Unfinished Graphic: depicts layers of WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Realization: for now, trash it all and be okay with ‘I am what I am’, that is 'I AMing'.

Note to self from Self - Give yourself permission to revisit or chuck it. Go play.

UPDATE: Ah, ha moment... Why am I trying to make sense of and dovetail illusionary concepts?


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Lighthouses/I_AM.JPG

[Dennis Leahy]

Ulli, please stay safe!

As for the idea of sharing a space with world travelers, I used to live in Southern California, right next to the longest pier on the West coast. One day, I met a couple of guys with backpacks and "foreign accents." (I don't really remember, maybe Croatia or Romania?) After maybe a half hour of conversation, my girlfriend and I invited them to stay with us. They were amazed, but accepted. And we had a few lovely days of hosting them, allowing them to explore the area using our place as base camp - and they expanded our horizons. Not the same as the video on Air B&B, because it was not for money, but it was my one experience of sharing that the video reminded me of.

Third wave of the internet: connecting together off-line. For the past 5 (or 6?) years, as many stringed musical instrument makers as possible - who all met on an on-line guitar maker's forum - get together in the woods in northern Minnesota. We call it "Stringfest." We have had a couple of Canadians, and US citizens come in from as far as Arizona, Washington, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Vermont (and closer States.) I hope sometime to meet with some of the folks from Avalon in person too. It's an obvious statement, but it is amazing how much more fun it is to meet face-to-face and eye-to-eye than words typed into a computer.

A nice tune written and performed by one of the Stringfest regulars. The guitar I built and call "Angelina" is mentioned in the song. I mention this so that when you hear, "Dennis, won't you pass me Angelina" you won't think it's a orgy. :~)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkFiVEbkxw

Dennis

[ulli]

"A Recipes for a Confusion Stew"

Unfinished objectives: to overlay I AM + I am experiencer + moving into new Mother Earth + dimensions + http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/delete2-smiley.gif?1292867581 + http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/yapyapyap-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

Unfinished ideas:
Reconcile the 3D, organic, carbon based individual experiencer that lives the day-to-day is awakening to a part of everything all moving as one holographic Whole, ie., 4D, crystaline based DNA into 5D, energenic essence body of I Am experiencing. Blah, blah, blah. Ultimately it’s Allness/Absolute without driven in form of problem, action, solution, but just Silence, Grace of All...Blah, blah, blah...

I mean no disrespect. It's frustrating. I've dropped out of the world. I've spent years in study. More hours in study than I'd want to admit. I am more confused than when I walked out the door of my classroom in 2004. Where is was a safe, comfy salary and secure job. But, I'd do it all over again, just in a balanced way.

3D = material, mind, ego, self
4D = less material, awareness of Higher Self perception more than physical
5D =

Unfinished Graphic: depicts layers of WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Realization: for now, trash it all and be okay with ‘I am what I am’, that is 'I AMing'.

Note to self from Self - Give yourself permission to revisit or chuck it. Go play.

UPDATE: Ah, ha moment... Why am I trying to make sense of and dovetail illusionary concepts?


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Your picture just gave me an idea, WCBD, since I have been looking at various satellite pictures of circles like that.
At this moment a lot of people here in Barbados are becoming increasingly nervous
about that circular cloud which has been forming to the east of us and is approaching us in a straight line.
By the time it reaches us it may well be a major hurricane.

So I was wondering if you could use your program to make lots of tiny circles, all breaking away from the big one,
and make the whole system move towards the top of the page, in other words, towards the north.... the mid Atlantic, where it will do less harm.
Please, please??

[ViralSpiral]

Be safe Ulli. Glad you're all together!

This is for MW......


SWEEET?!?!



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[Calz]

This is for MW......


SWEEET?!?!



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Yes I have some curmudgeony words for that white wizard ... messing with eagles???

[Carmody]

time for a recap:

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[ulli]

Not sure what everyone has been doing but it's becoming a birdie now.
That beak is a bit strange but the body reminds me of a hummingbird.

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[RunningDeer]

Ulli's Sunshine
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Not sure what everyone has been doing but it's becoming a birdie now.
That beak is a bit strange but the body reminds me of a hummingbird.

[astrid]

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Thanks again Tom

[ulli]

Our Village has had 500,699 views.
Soon we will attract corporate advertisers.
Just kidding.

Love your sunshine picture WCBD,
but find those clouds still a bit big,
and some are too close to land.
Gosh, this makes me sound so picky....