Here and Now...What's Happening?

[ulli]

Playdoooooo!!!!!! Playdo is back, folks!!!!!!!!! Hugs, hugs, hugs.!

But wait a minute...that video up there, isn't that the one where all those sweet little mice get eaten?

[Carmody]

......just cuz' I have to make a post on page 888.



Thanks Bob! It was most refreshing to be a recluse from the interwebs. But I had to come back down from the mountain.....

Isn't that always the problem? :p


In this rank, the bodhisattva of indomitable spirit turns the Dharma-wheel of the non-duality of brightness and darkness. He stands in the midst of the filth of the world, "his head covered with dust and his face streaked with dirt." He moves through the confusion of sound and sensual pleasure, buffeted this way and buffeted that. He is like the fire-blooming lotus, that, on encountering the flames, becomes still brighter in color and purer in fragrance". He enters the market place with empty hands," yet others receive benefit from him. This is what is called to be on the road, yet not to have left the house; to have left the house, yet not to be on the road." Is he an ordinary man? Is he a sage? The evil ones and the heretics cannot discern him. Even the buddhas and the patriarchs cannot lay their hands upon him. Were anyone to try to indicate his mind, [it would be no more there than] the horns of a rabbit or the hairs of a tortoise that have gone beyond the farthest mountain.

Still, he must not consider this state to be his final resting-place. Therefore it is said, "Such a man has in and of himself a heaven-soaring spirit." What must he do in the end? He must know that there is one more rank, the rank of " Unity Attained."

Unity Attained:

Who dares to equal him
Who falls into neither being nor non-being!
All men want to leave
The current of ordinary life,
But he, after all, comes back
To sit among the coals and ashes.

The Master's verse-comment says:

How many times has Tokuun, the idle old gimlet,
Not come down from the Marvelous Peak!
He hires foolish wise men to bring snow,
And he and they together fill up the well.

The student who wishes to pass through Tozan's rank of "Unity Attained" should first study this verse.

Yes, the moment, the life, the motion of the Juxtaposition..and the bridge.

Without ...it there would be no path.

I've said before that I seem to be an enlightenment junkie. I'm aware of the monkey see, monkey do effect. So I run though the revolving door of enlightenment, from misery to elevation, like so many up and downs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snb5729vZe0") on an amusement park ride.

[dan33]

"Often, I have decided to include in a film a scene in which a man tries to tell a story to a friend, but he forgets a word of four generally a very simple word: car, street, guard ... The man stammers, hesitates, gestures, looks pathetic eqivalencias until the friend was furious, gives him a slap and leaves."

My Last Sigh. Luis Buñuel Biography.

Con frecuencia, yo he pensado introducir en una película una escena en la que un hombre trata de contar una historia a un amigo; pero él olvida una palabra de cada cuatro, generalmente, una palabra muy simple: coche, calle, guardia... El hombre farfulla,titubea, gesticula, busca eqivalencias patéticas, hasta que el amigo, furioso, le da un bofetón y se va.

Mi Ultimo Suspiro. Biografía de Luis Buñuel.



I always laugh with this simple scene.
"Small is Beatiful". Small/Simple. I heard on a very popular scientific program "REDES" years ago and i can't forget it. The interviwer was talking about enviroment and cities .

http://www.rtve.es/television/redes/

[Carmody]

Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Thus our entire overall global situation, as it is and how it sits, is, for the larger part of any potential outcomes an unstoppable forced move.

This..as a force...against humanity's unwillingness (immovable mass) to let go of the animal parts of duality existence.

Die (physically).... or ... change. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48695-Tesla-Technology-and-the-New-Super-Weapons)

Those are the real choices and options that are in front of humanity at this time.

Realizing this, thus becomes a critical point in the individual and the collective sense.

[PurpleLama]

Yep, I gotta take a hit off that one, too.

Glad to see ol' Playdo here and now. I tried to cut my finger off a little while ago, removing the one of the blades on the saw. Lots of backspacing occurred during the typing of this message, woulda been easier on my phone, fo sho.
......just cuz' I have to make a post on page 888.



Thanks Bob! It was most refreshing to be a recluse from the interwebs. But I had to come back down from the mountain.....

Isn't that always the problem? :p

[Mark]

Thanks Bob, for making me search for the 5 ranks.

Thanks Carmody, for explicating the personal and global dilemma so concisely.

I'm finding it very difficult to comment on anything these days past a line or three, generally of little note. Or even to write articles. Everything that comes out seems to have to do with higher consciousness. I may start on another topic, but it always comes back to that.

It must be lonely up the slopes of that mountain or something. WB, Playdo ...

[Guest]

me too Ulli..... 11:11 has been occurring so often and variants...8:11....etc... or 111, 222, 444 and now seeing 12:12's..... Late at night glow in dark 11:11's sometimes make me jump...LOL

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Love


Nora

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Playdoooooo!!!!!! Playdo is back, folks!!!!!!!!! Hugs, hugs, hugs.!

But wait a minute...that video up there, isn't that the one where all those sweet little mice get eaten?

Thanks Ulli! The truth is that I ran out of money and needed to visit the Village bank. Ha! ;) Yea, that video is rather disturbing, though the song is rather nice. I had no idea frogs/toads even ate critters like that. Who knew. That's honestly why I was so surprised to see the mouse on the frog in Bob's picture. Synchronistically, I came across the video and Bob's post during the same day. Business as usual, all is connected! Thanks for the welcome, Ulli!

[Carmody]

Thanks Bob, for making me search for the 5 ranks.

Thanks Carmody, for explicating the personal and global dilemma so concisely.

I'm finding it very difficult to comment on anything these days past a line or three, generally of little note. Or even to write articles. Everything that comes out seems to have to do with higher consciousness. I may start on another topic, but it always comes back to that.

It must be lonely up the slopes of that mountain or something. WB, Playdo ...

Self explains self. Being 'is', and so on. Thus the emotions and actions required end up being 'precisely so' for the situation at hand.

The juxtaposition of knowing and not knowing. The surety and the fear. A sense of loss and a sense of being.

And it all mixes up in your tum-tum-tummy. :p

[ulli]

Playdoooooo!!!!!! Playdo is back, folks!!!!!!!!! Hugs, hugs, hugs.!

But wait a minute...that video up there, isn't that the one where all those sweet little mice get eaten?

Thanks Ulli! The truth is that I ran out of money and needed to visit the Village bank. Ha! ;) Yea, that video is rather disturbing, though the song is rather nice. I had no idea frogs/toads even ate critters like that. Who knew. That's honestly why I was so surprised to see the mouse on the frog in Bob's picture. Synchronistically, I came across the video and Bob's post during the same day. Business as usual, all is connected! Thanks for the welcome, Ulli!

...the first thought that came to my mind was that you were hungry up there....that, or bored.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2851771/sn/2060661357/name/Flat+Top+Guru.jpg

[RunningDeer]

What does one say on page 444 of this thread?

When I was a cub scout, my "pack" number was 444.

By birthday was 4/4/54 (ten years late?)

The zipcode I grew up in starts with 44, as did my phone number.

My social security number has a 444 sequence in it

...all of this came to mind one day, about thirty-five years ago, when a stranger I had never met approached me and said that he was directed to speak to me. He said that if he was accurate, that the number "44" would already be significant in my life. According to him, there were 44 beings - in spirit form - that were assembled to help the study group. The group, "Fellowship of Friends" was studying the work of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and others, and wondered if I would be interested to attend meetings. I only attended one (I had made up my mind that I refused to pay for any philosophical/spiritual material, and they wanted money), but afterwords I did read some of the writings of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky.)

So there. hahahahhaa Here and Now the thread page 444 triggered this memory for me!

Dennis


“Master Numbers: Cycles of Divine Order,” by: Faith Javane

pgs. 101-102 for Master Number 44

“...Behavior must include forgiveness and practicing the Golden Rule at all times. Our ordinary will is raised to a more powerful will if the source of fait is opened within us. We realize we are working under a higher authority, and as this happens, our entire lives change, as do concepts of value. We ask ourself: “What really is of value?” This kind of knowledge must be understood: we must realize that it is a change of will, and also a change of what we really love enough to “lose our lives” for. This the type of living that prepares us for

ADEPTSHIP
1,4,5,7,2,1,8,9,7 = 44

The double 4 gives reason as the directing link to higher wisdom, and offers the potential for synthesizing the mundane and the spiritual for best results in action and leadership. Master number 44 individuals are resourceful and have complete strength and mental dominion over their activities. They understand financial values, but would work more toward the attainment of spiritual progress. The number 44 is a symbol that demands great self-control and discipline, one which brings with it a heavy burden and the possibility of becoming a world influence through conforming to the immutable laws of the Cosmic Order.

A growing consciousness is the purpose of human life, and the highest consciousness is the goal of human life. This growth goes forward and upward, spiral by spiral, form us as mere creatures to fully conscious Christed beings. Mast number 44 people may attain this level of wholeness by controlled energy, thus enhancing their vitality and in turn activating the nerve centers in the brain. The creative energy retained within body enables these people to attain mastery and to become illuminates. The Divine creative energy may be used either physically, mundanely, or for the highest creative ideal of Godliness....”


“Numerology and the Divine Triangle,” by: Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker - pg. 20

Life Lesson/birthdate
4+4+1954 = 8+19=27/9

9 - “You should be the universal lover of humanity, patient, kind and understanding. You are at the peak of life’s expression, and must turn and show others the way. You seen to receive wisdom from above; thus you know that the true way of happiness is in service to others. You are the marrying type, strong in passion and compassion. You easily acquire money or wealth, and know how to preserve it. You are never petty but deal in broad concepts and can attain success in the face of difficulties. You are here to show others the way, through your breadth of thinking. You can choose from many professions; education and medicine are the most usual. You may become an orator, writer or lecturer with equal ease. Communication, foreign service, statesmanship and leadership positions are easily within your capacity.

[ulli]

another reason to go up the mountain, and come back down again. Numbers.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2851771/sn/1037965492/name/n_a


P.S. I could have sworn Playdo posted that mouse killer video before, on this thread....
am I going nuts? I don't have time for figuring deja vus.

[Dennis Leahy]

Well, Dennis, I went back to page 444 and found it excellent.
I forgot to say I have my Avalon forum software set to display 40 posts per page, so "your mileage may vary."

I can't remember what the default setting is for the number of posts on a page. What page number is this to you?

Dennis

[PurpleLama]

another reason to go up the mountain, and come back down again. Numbers.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2851771/sn/1037965492/name/n_a


P.S. I could have sworn Playdo posted that mouse killer video before, on this thread....
am I going nuts? I don't have time for figuring deja vus.

Nope, not nuts, except it was me who posted the video.

[ThePythonicCow]

I forgot to say I have my Avalon forum software set to display 40 posts per page, so "your mileage may vary."

I can't remember what the default setting is for the number of posts on a page. What page number is this to you?

This is page 889 for me. I'm at 20 posts per page; not sure if that's the default, but might be.

[PurpleLama]

I forgot to say I have my Avalon forum software set to display 40 posts per page, so "your mileage may vary."

I can't remember what the default setting is for the number of posts on a page. What page number is this to you?

This is page 889 for me. I'm at 20 posts per page; not sure if that's the default, but might be.

20 is the default.

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif into :cheers: ?

[Dennis Leahy]

What does one say on page 444 of this thread?

When I was a cub scout, my "pack" number was 444.

By birthday was 4/4/54 (ten years late?)

The zipcode I grew up in starts with 44, as did my phone number.

My social security number has a 444 sequence in it

...all of this came to mind one day, about thirty-five years ago, when a stranger I had never met approached me and said that he was directed to speak to me. He said that if he was accurate, that the number "44" would already be significant in my life. According to him, there were 44 beings - in spirit form - that were assembled to help the study group. The group, "Fellowship of Friends" was studying the work of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and others, and wondered if I would be interested to attend meetings. I only attended one (I had made up my mind that I refused to pay for any philosophical/spiritual material, and they wanted money), but afterwords I did read some of the writings of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky.)

So there. hahahahhaa Here and Now the thread page 444 triggered this memory for me!

Dennis


“Master Numbers: Cycles of Divine Order,” by: Faith Javane

pgs. 101-102 for Master Number 44

“...Behavior must include forgiveness and practicing the Golden Rule at all times. Our ordinary will is raised to a more powerful will if the source of fait is opened within us. We realize we are working under a higher authority, and as this happens, our entire lives change, as do concepts of value. We ask ourself: “What really is of value?” This kind of knowledge must be understood: we must realize that it is a change of will, and also a change of what we really love enough to “lose our lives” for. This the type of living that prepares us for

ADEPTSHIP
1,4,5,7,2,1,8,9,7 = 44

The double 4 gives reason as the directing link to higher wisdom, and offers the potential for synthesizing the mundane and the spiritual for best results in action and leadership. Master number 44 individuals are resourceful and have complete strength and mental dominion over their activities. They understand financial values, but would work more toward the attainment of spiritual progress. The number 44 is a symbol that demands great self-control and discipline, one which brings with it a heavy burden and the possibility of becoming a world influence through conforming to the immutable laws of the Cosmic Order.

A growing consciousness is the purpose of human life, and the highest consciousness is the goal of human life. This growth goes forward and upward, spiral by spiral, form us as mere creatures to fully conscious Christed beings. Mast number 44 people may attain this level of wholeness by controlled energy, thus enhancing their vitality and in turn activating the nerve centers in the brain. The creative energy retained within body enables these people to attain mastery and to become illuminates. The Divine creative energy may be used either physically, mundanely, or for the highest creative ideal of Godliness....”


“Numerology and the Divine Triangle,” by: Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker - pg. 20

Life Lesson/birthdate
4+4+1954 = 8+19=27/9

9 - “You should be the universal lover of humanity, patient, kind and understanding. You are at the peak of life’s expression, and must turn and show others the way. You seen to receive wisdom from above; thus you know that the true way of happiness is in service to others. You are the marrying type, strong in passion and compassion. You easily acquire money or wealth, and know how to preserve it. You are never petty but deal in broad concepts and can attain success in the face of difficulties. You are here to show others the way, through your breadth of thinking. You can choose from many professions; education and medicine are the most usual. You may become an orator, writer or lecturer with equal ease. Communication, foreign service, statesmanship and leadership positions are easily within your capacity.
Wow, Paula, that's a lot to aspire to. Whew!

OK, now what do I do on the second day?

hehehehehhehehheheheheheh har har har

:~} <-----(impish grin)

Dennis

[another bob]

I tried to cut my finger off a little while ago, removing the one of the blades on the saw.

Yes, as usual in these days of synchronicity, I was just sawing too. I had to take out a big over-grown Fotinia that was threatening to root into my septic tank.

Still got all 10 digits, best of luck on yours!

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Thanks Bob, for making me search for the 5 ranks.

Good stuff, huh!

Btw, love your new avatar!

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Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Absolutely right, and Thanks for noting it -- let's hope more and more recognize that!

[Mark]

Self explains self. Being 'is', and so on. Thus the emotions and actions required end up being 'precisely so' for the situation at hand.

The juxtaposition of knowing and not knowing. The surety and the fear. A sense of loss and a sense of being.

And it all mixes up in your tum-tum-tummy. :p

LOL

yeh ... y'all explain it all so well there is left little to say. but i like not having to explain sometimes and it's beyond amazing to be in such company.

Ulli, not cheez whizzzzzzz, but pizzzaaaaaaaa! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Good stuff, huh!

Btw, love your new avatar!

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[Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

Good stuff alright ... it's nice to be able to see what the traditions of the ages have to say about this state of existence. I don't consider myself a Buddhist even though I find that it best expresses my experiences thus far along the road in an experiential manner and as a legacy going back thousands of years ... regarding the idea of enlightenment and technology, the idea reminds me uncomfortably of Jacques Fresco and his Venus Project and his society run by Scientists/Technocrats ... there are other ideas about what enlightenment is and how to achieve it out there, including some that are downright scary and twisted in the things people do to manifest that supposed state of being ... anybody can say it ... to institutionalize it ... might not have the best results, given "human nature" ...

Yeh thanks, me and the boy, just did a quick photoshop filter thing ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17863&d=1345238678

[ThePythonicCow]

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif into :cheers: ?
Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer :cheers:

Done :).

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Methinks that's happened before.......

[RunningDeer]

What does one say on page 444 And that number thing, Dennis, no one has it as much as I, although my numbers are not 444.
They are a variation of 17, 9, 19. These three numbers appear on forms, telefone numbers, car numbers,
Anywhere where spirit wants to send me signals. Not to forget the constant barrage of 11:11, 1:11, 2:22, 7:11, 9:11, 9:17, 7:19 on my clocks.
Been like this since I had my first awakening in 1977.
Then got into Gurdjieff and Ouspensky....so now that you shared your number thingy I'm having a guess that Gurdjieff's soul group is behind all the synchronicities.
Plus he himself also mentioned them quite often. Just like those Jmes Redfield books.
Interesting...hmmm....


me too Ulli..... 11:11 has been occurring so often and variants...8:11....etc... or 111, 222, 444 and now seeing 12:12's..... Late at night glow in dark 11:11's sometimes make me jump...LOL

Love
Nora


"Master Numbers: Cycles of Divine Order," by Faith Javane
"Numerology and The Divine Triangle," by Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker

I believe that we are all in the process of becoming the Master Number 11.

Master Number Eleven, pgs. 82-83 & 84

“Master numbers accentuate the meanings of the single digits, and for that reason they are considered to be the most powerful vibrations. They symbolize the expansion of consciousness through a series of steps or illuminations as growth takes place, until the ultimate of Christ Consciousness is attained...”

“When the forces of Eleven become fully operative in people, they have the power to change their environments, to create new conditions, to build new bodies and new lives, all in harmony with the Divine Image in whose likeness they were fashioned in the beginning. Ministers, reformers, and charity workers come under this vibration, as do teachers, speakers, writers, promoters, and leaders, in public service.

If these individual use their master numbers to glorify themselves, however, they will experience loss and unhappiness. The Eleven is a very difficult vibration to handle; therefore, these people must be eternally watchful of their conduct. The rewards for fine performance are great, however, “the ends are well worth the means.” The Great Work is the transmutation of mater into spirit. Then the spirit behind and within matter will be truly activated. Infinite consciousness remains constant wherever it manifests.

Eleven combines the learner, number 1 (conscious mind) beside the number 1 of higher consciousness. These people think of themselves as individuals, as ‘1s’ who have learned independence, leadership, and the qualities of aggressiveness necessary to cope with the world. Now, as 11s, or double 1s, they find the I AM beside them. Perhaps it is here that we learn of “I AM THAT I AM.”

We begin to realize that in an 11 incarnation we will be tested as to how well we can make our lives express more oneness with our Creator. “God, as first cause, said, Let there be Light, and there was Light.” (Genesis 1:3)

We should be inspired to “go, and do likewise,” to try to create more LIght in the world that we inhabit as physical beings. “The things I do, ye may do also.” (John 14:12)

The qualities of unity and universality become manifest in developing 11 individuals. They can no longer remain apart, but must give of their Light to the world. An Eleven develops soul powers through graciously and lovingly giving selfless service wherever it is needed....”

“...The number 11 stands for the self and the Christ-Self, as a polarity within as One, though embodied in the flesh. A new birth has occurred in our hearts as a ‘seed’ of immortality; we envision a brighter horizon...”

[dan33]

......just cuz' I have to make a post on page 888.



Thanks Bob! It was most refreshing to be a recluse from the interwebs. But I had to come back down from the mountain.....

Isn't that always the problem? :p


In this rank, the bodhisattva of indomitable spirit turns the Dharma-wheel of the non-duality of brightness and darkness. He stands in the midst of the filth of the world, "his head covered with dust and his face streaked with dirt." He moves through the confusion of sound and sensual pleasure, buffeted this way and buffeted that. He is like the fire-blooming lotus, that, on encountering the flames, becomes still brighter in color and purer in fragrance". He enters the market place with empty hands," yet others receive benefit from him. This is what is called to be on the road, yet not to have left the house; to have left the house, yet not to be on the road." Is he an ordinary man? Is he a sage? The evil ones and the heretics cannot discern him. Even the buddhas and the patriarchs cannot lay their hands upon him. Were anyone to try to indicate his mind, [it would be no more there than] the horns of a rabbit or the hairs of a tortoise that have gone beyond the farthest mountain.

Still, he must not consider this state to be his final resting-place. Therefore it is said, "Such a man has in and of himself a heaven-soaring spirit." What must he do in the end? He must know that there is one more rank, the rank of " Unity Attained."

Unity Attained:

Who dares to equal him
Who falls into neither being nor non-being!
All men want to leave
The current of ordinary life,
But he, after all, comes back
To sit among the coals and ashes.

The Master's verse-comment says:

How many times has Tokuun, the idle old gimlet,
Not come down from the Marvelous Peak!
He hires foolish wise men to bring snow,
And he and they together fill up the well.

The student who wishes to pass through Tozan's rank of "Unity Attained" should first study this verse.

Yes, the moment, the life, the motion of the Juxtaposition..and the bridge.

Without ...it there would be no path.

I've said before that I seem to be an enlightenment junkie. I'm aware of the monkey see, monkey do effect. So I run though the revolving door of enlightenment, from misery to elevation, like so many up and downs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snb5729vZe0") on an amusement park ride.

Hounds of Love is a TOP Long Play.

pllRW9wETzw


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Welcome Playdo!!!

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[ulli]

I tried to cut my finger off a little while ago, removing the one of the blades on the saw.

Yes, as usual in these days of synchronicity, I was just sawing too. I had to take out a big over-grown Fotinia that was threatening to root into my septic tank.

Still got all 10 digits, best of luck on yours!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Thanks Bob, for making me search for the 5 ranks.

Good stuff, huh!

Btw, love your new avatar!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Absolutely right, and Thanks for noting it -- let's hope more and more recognize that!


I disagree.
Technology breaks down all the time...
the only solution then is to push your inner lightbulb switch...
and voila!
People discover their inner genius.
The next thing is the biggest Aha! ever.
This happens all the time. In the eighties I hardly knew anyone who was enlightened.
Now I meet lots of really enlightened folks, all the time. Astonishing, the number.

Technology began when they made the first tools...
No, wait...when they speeded up travel, after the horse....
No, wait...when they made the first calculator....

[Eram]

Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Thus our entire overall global situation, as it is and how it sits, is, for the larger part of any potential outcomes an unstoppable forced move.

This..as a force...against humanity's unwillingness (immovable mass) to let go of the animal parts of duality existence.

Die (physically).... or ... change. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48695-Tesla-Technology-and-the-New-Super-Weapons)

Those are the real choices and options that are in front of humanity at this time.

Realizing this, thus becomes a critical point in the individual and the collective sense.


Why would people need to use technology when we can achieve all the same without technology?
The use of technology only reduces our ability to do the same thing internally.

Look at GPS in our cars... more and more people have no idea where they are when driving around. Or calculators... whenever theu make their entrance in the classroom, children rapidly loose their ability to do the maths in their heads.

How would our world look like when we live our lives without technology and we are all enlightened?
Wouldn't that be paradise?

[another bob]

Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

~Albert Einstein


Without wisdom, that is . . .

[RunningDeer]

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif into :cheers: ?
Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer :cheers:

Done :).

Dearest Paul,

"Weak moment" my a$$. http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/yapyapyap-smiley.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

You are a very kind, cuddly :cow:

............Going, going, gone..........................................:car:

[RunningDeer]

Welcome back, Playdo :wave:


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Animals/baby-turtle-eats-strawberry.jpg

[ulli]

Probably the only way that humanity, as we think it might evolve into being..is going to have a potential path that moves in directions that we now (our physical idealizations at this time) would like it to...well..humanity is going to or should engage the idea of enlightenment first, technology AFTER. If at all.... regarding the technology... as after enlightenment the technology is most seriously a non-question.

All that technology before enlightenment is almost certainly a perfect death sentence for humanity.

Thus our entire overall global situation, as it is and how it sits, is, for the larger part of any potential outcomes an unstoppable forced move.

This..as a force...against humanity's unwillingness (immovable mass) to let go of the animal parts of duality existence.

Die (physically).... or ... change. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48695-Tesla-Technology-and-the-New-Super-Weapons)

Those are the real choices and options that are in front of humanity at this time.

Realizing this, thus becomes a critical point in the individual and the collective sense.


Why would people need to use technology when we can achieve all the same without technology?
The use of technology only reduces our ability to do the same thing internally.

Look at GPS in our cars... more and more people have no idea where they are when driving around. Or calculators... whenever theu make their entrance in the classroom, children rapidly loose their ability to do the maths in their heads.

How would our world look like when we live our lives without technology and we are all enlightened?
Wouldn't that be paradise?

Challenge time. Show me how you would make the first step...
leave technology behind and leave Europe and come to Central America
and live in the wilderness with 200 varieties of ants and spiders the way I have chosen to do.
Then let the lack of technology guide you towards enlightenment.
Agreed, the chaotic conditions can definitely provide the odd glimpse of other dimensions...
usually when you least expect it...
Enlightenment happens when you suddenly get a relief experience right after extremely harsh deprivation...
spirit to the rescue.

I nearly forgot to ask how do you define technology.
Just to clarify: the image below is NOT what I envision for the future.

http://alswebpage.netfirms.com/jaksbit/Dark%20Heresy/techpriest.jpg

[another bob]

Enlightenment happens when you suddenly get a relief experience right after extremely harsh deprivation...
spirit to the rescue.

"One enlightened thought and one is a buddha, one foolish thought and one is an ordinary being."
~Hui Neng

In other words, there are, strictly speaking, no enlightened people, there are only enlightened acts, enlightenment being a quality, or element, rather than an entity.

Pema Chodron, the well-respected Tibetan Buddhist teacher, once said that she had never had this sudden and profound experience of opening that we hear so much about. She said that sometimes when her students would tell her about there own amazing and powerful experiences of opening, she would actually feel a little jealous. But she noticed that only a day or two after these profound experiences those students were once again right back where they had been before, in the midst of the same old confusion and trouble.

[PurpleLama]

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif into :cheers: ?
Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer :cheers:

Done :).

You totally rock, my friend! I can't wait to show Fred!

[RunningDeer]

Oops, on second thought this post is not needed.... It's just my garbage in, garbage out. I just hate it when I do that... :cheers:

[ulli]

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif into :cheers: ?
Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer :cheers:

Done :).

You totally rock, my friend! I can't wait to show Fred!

Ok, call him over. This calls for a party.

:cantina:
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

There's tea and coffee as well, for those who don't want beer.

:tea:

[ulli]

Or calculators... whenever theu make their entrance in the classroom, children rapidly loose their ability to do the maths in their heads.

How would our world look like when we live our lives without technology and we are all enlightened?
Wouldn't that be paradise?

I took a workshop with my Reiki Master on “Robert A. Monroe’s hemispheric synchronization, or Hemi-Sync”. Which is for whole-brain state where the left and right hemispheres are working together for optimal condition for improving human performance.

I recognize that both parts working together is important. Schools do not (did not). They make/made kids memorize and puke back information. So with that said, just one thing I differ on: calculators. When used in conjunction with skill building, they are invaluable for those that have blocks for a number of organic reasons.

Speaking up for the kids that have trouble with multiplication tables and such, calculators have allowed them to free up their memory minds and creatively come up with some damn good math solutions and creative inventions. Who knows, maybe they’ll go on to design beautiful landmarks.

IMHO - Sometimes tools light up the genius in our kids. Give’s them a chance to thrive and see how incredible they really are.

- Left brain memory, spit back info...garbage in, garbage out.
- Right brain creative activity...them’s is where their jewels shine.

(Last two sentences are an extreme opinion when I first began the post. Yes, balance is important.)

It is really all about balance. Left brain has had a lot of bad rap lately, especially in New Age circles.
And right brain by itself can be so irrational at times that truth and justice suffer.
Either hemisphere is capable of dogma,
and of wrong doing and hurting others.
The more balanced a person is the clearer their perception of the various layers of reality.

[RunningDeer]

Or calculators... whenever theu make their entrance in the classroom, children rapidly loose their ability to do the maths in their heads.

How would our world look like when we live our lives without technology and we are all enlightened?
Wouldn't that be paradise?

I took a workshop with my Reiki Master on “Robert A. Monroe’s hemispheric synchronization, or Hemi-Sync”. Which is for whole-brain state where the left and right hemispheres are working together for optimal condition for improving human performance.

I recognize that both parts working together is important. Schools do not (did not). They make/made kids memorize and puke back information. So with that said, just one thing I differ on: calculators. When used in conjunction with skill building, they are invaluable for those that have blocks for a number of organic reasons.

Speaking up for the kids that have trouble with multiplication tables and such, calculators have allowed them to free up their memory minds and creatively come up with some damn good math solutions and creative inventions. Who knows, maybe they’ll go on to design beautiful landmarks.

IMHO - Sometimes tools light up the genius in our kids. Give’s them a chance to thrive and see how incredible they really are.

- Left brain memory, spit back info...garbage in, garbage out.
- Right brain creative activity...them’s is where their jewels shine.

(Last two sentences are an extreme opinion when I first began the post. Yes, balance is important.)

It is really all about balance. Left brain has had a lot of bad rap lately, especially in New Age circles.
And right brain by itself can be so irrational at times that truth and justice suffer.
Either hemisphere is capable of dogma,
and of wrong doing and hurting others.
The more balanced a person is the clearer their perception of the various layers of reality.

I agree 100% that's why I added about I took a workshop on hemispheric synchronization. It is also what Tai Chi is about. Both sides used, until transcended. Movement, actions, focus, thought & no-thought, then all done on it's own. :wave:

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Its 930 am here

i have been up for about 4 hoours and after my morning meditation i watched my favorite scene from Pulp Fiction .


now i am dedating nuts and dates

I am also very excited about my life. I am enjoying it with every breath and on my mission to help others. this is a very rewarding process for me.

later today i will pick up my mountain bike from service and go for a ride in the forrest !

pece be unto you

Nanoo

[ulli]

Welcome to this community, Nanoo Nanoo. Your love for life is appreciated, and even infectuous.
Enjoy the ride...and if you sense any presences it's most likely some of us Villagers...
we have this habit of toddling along with one another.

[1inMany]

My goodness, the Village is buzzing with activity! How wonderful :) Welcome back, Playdo :) Welcome to nanoo (oh, didn't you just love that show!) Rahkyt, that boy of yours is beeyoooooteeful! I could eat him up, bet those cheeks don't get enough sugars lol.

Wow, look at all this. I think I jumped time or something, because I swear I never left and yet all this happened right under my nose.

I think I will have to sleep with one eye open from now on, just so I don't miss anything...

Much Love :)

[1inMany]

I think I'm turning a corner, finally, with all this physical sh!t I've been experiencing. PL and Marianne have turned me into an addict. I've ordered some Lavender essential oil for this anxiety, and finally some atomidine. Once I got to looking around online, I ended up with a wish list a mile long. After a quick dash into the Village Barn, all this wonderful stuff will be on my porch! As long as MamaDog doesn't eat it all before I get to it. Hmph.

The item of the day is Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with mother. Now, I will tell you up front, I do not know what "the mother" is, and after shaking the bottle for 5 minutes to get the crud in the bottom all mixed in...I will not ask. And that sh!t tastes nasty straight. I was so desperate to feel better, I really did try it. Holey Moley! I'll take the persimmon juice any day.

However, he did tell me about the salad dressing, with the local honey I have, and I'm addicted. I was so excited to try the salad dressing, that in the store I bought 2 bags of Organic salad-y looking stuff to put it on. Oh yes, I'm on a roll now! I'm not sure what all is in this, either, but it looked colorful and healthy. I recognize broccoli bits. I recognize bits of carrots. But the rest? Um...there's a bunch of leafy stuff, and the red/purple leaves are bitter. Blick. But the strips of white stuff and the springy light green stuff are yummy! I ate this HUGE bowl of salad, which is what I am calling it because that is a familiar word, and my stomach felt amazing! I might have eaten a tad too much because there was a little salad dressing in the bottom and I couldn't get to it without adding some more green stuff. NO TUMMY TROUBLE! Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!! And then, a couple of hours later, I was hungry again! Like a real, normal person! I wonder if a person can eat too much of this-here healthy grub.

No more crackers here! :wizard:

I'm wondering...what else could I eat with this dressing on it...fruit loops? Nah. Grape Nuts? Maybe! Um...Toast? Oooh, that might soak up more of it! Okay, that's weird. Maybe chicken or something. I don't know, but I swear I'm addicted.

Oh, the wisdom and experience you all have...I'd like to tap into it for a while. Of course, my brain would explode, but I think PL might know something I could ingest that would prevent that...

Love you All!!!

[Dennis Leahy]

Hey Paul, while we've got you on the line, any chance of turning this http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif into :cheers: ?
Ooook ... you caught me at a weak moment ... bills to be paid sitting in a stack beside my computer :cheers:

Done :).
Hi Paul,

Did you have to do an UPDATE query on the database, changing every instance of :whatever-it-was: to :cheerz: (misspelled on purpose so the forum software won't interpret it)

...or, did you simply add it in as a new emoticon?

Dennis

[PurpleLama]

I've been sending you a psychic invitation to come participate in this thread, here, for about a week, just to see it it would work, and here you are! Welcome, welcome, something tells me you are just as weird as me, which is a high compliment in my reality.


Its 930 am here

i have been up for about 4 hoours and after my morning meditation i watched my favorite scene from Pulp Fiction .


now i am dedating nuts and dates

I am also very excited about my life. I am enjoying it with every breath and on my mission to help others. this is a very rewarding process for me.

later today i will pick up my mountain bike from service and go for a ride in the forrest !

pece be unto you

Nanoo

[ThePythonicCow]

...or, did you simply add it in as a new emoticon?
Simply added it as a new emoticon.

Each time a page is rendered, the emoticon names, such as :cheers:, are evaluated to whatever is their current graphical image, if any. By "rendered", I meant converted to HTML on the server, in order to send it over the web to some user's web browser.

[astrid]

http://cdn.fairfaxregional.com.au/preview/c1200x678/storypad-3A7iN83cZd5H3JXq9xN6NkC/b13eda09-b86f-4b37-95a2-112bbdfff560.JPG

wild weather here right now, even snow.

A Wattle tree in my backyard lost its footing in the wet over night and is down.
I'm trying to work out how to save it, as its a haven for so many birds,
besides that its a tree... and we don't have enough of these sacred beings.

Will need to call in some troops as its quite large and to lift in on my own
will be a bit risky

[Carmody]

The technology i speak of is the ability to manipulate space/time/matter/dimensions/reality.

That, enacted, without some basic and strong evolution/enlightenment (ie, powerfully aware, even in the weaker moments), is a dangerous thing. Very much so.

I've been watching closely, and most definitely, the components required to make or design room temperature superconductors are now in the public realm, with respect to announcements in the past 3-4 months on cutting edge physics.

All the pieces are on the table.

At the same time, those individual pieces are moving forward, in their own ways.

All that remains, is that someone realize this, and put the pieces together.

The problem is that this solution of room temperature superconductors does not in any way bring enlightenment moments to the individuals involved. Within those components of knowing how to make such things, is the possibility of much, much more.

I've personally known the basics of how to make Room temperature superconductors for about 15 years, but never bothered to try and follow through, due to the complexity of getting to a physical proof.

Sometimes I'm bothered by this inability to 'go there' and actually do it, and then aggrandize myself in some manner..... and at other times - I could not give a tinker's damn. It's a darn big coin, and it has two sides.

In the final analysis, it is but a mere doorway into a world of change that has hundreds of doors into that space, each appearing to be slightly different but all connected to the same space -As the single door leads to all the others.

For it is but a few concepts away from the current scientific cutting edge..and they ARE 'getting it'....right now.

There will be no real 'before-after' moment that can or will be identifiable, but after, and during...the pace will quicken.

When I speak about the basics of this technology, the problem is that it unfolds into the potentials for so many ugly aspects, as the single understanding opens all doors, like Pandora's box, in and on the dimensional manipulation/integration level.

A certain maturity of psyche and spirit is required to negotiate that particular curve or unfolding.

It could happen through many different doors and methods. The crack of this change or opening could be coming from just about anywhere, but there are a few places for it to 'begin' from as processes go, that are not desirable. Weaponry is not one that is desirable. The further away from weaponizing that this opening could be starting from, the better.

The problem has always been is that it moves into an area of complexity of unfolding that is well nigh incalculably complex, and end points (to stability) are not readily calculable.

Since it is a factor of a mind set and a mental position that is all that is stopping people from realizing this technology (of fundamental mechanical manipulation of all reality functions on all levels), the problem is that the unfolding is still..in the best of terms..far too close to weaponization....IF there is little to no enlightenment in the people involved in such direct motions and actions.

The story in the backdrop, from all whispered accounts, is that the worst case scenario, to some extent..did indeed happen. Weaponization first.

And those accounts seem to be indicating that others have appeared on the scene and engaged those humans who are involved. Which if true, might be one of the only things holding this human race together.

Now, the entire group of humans is finally hovering on this same threshold, in the more public collective sense.

[modwiz]

Husband frantically calls hotel management from his hotel room:

"Please come fast I'm having an argument with my wife and she says she will jump out the window of your hotel."

The manager responded: "Sir that's a personal matter."

Husband says: "Idiot, the window won't open! That's a maintenance matter!"

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I've been sending you a psychic invitation to come participate in this thread, here, for about a week, just to see it it would work, and here you are! Welcome, welcome, something tells me you are just as weird as me, which is a high compliment in my reality.


Its 930 am here

i have been up for about 4 hoours and after my morning meditation i watched my favorite scene from Pulp Fiction .


now i am dedating nuts and dates

I am also very excited about my life. I am enjoying it with every breath and on my mission to help others. this is a very rewarding process for me.

later today i will pick up my mountain bike from service and go for a ride in the forrest !

pece be unto you

Nanoo

Aaaah so that was you! I kept looking at the thread and thought i should come and comment and today i was inspired :-)

Thank you and yes being thought of as weird totally makes my day, and spreding infections too :-) lovely way to spend a day

Huggsss

Nanoo Nanoo

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Speaking of technology, I found this video linked from Whitley Strieber's website, Unknown Country, of a video compiled from photos taken by the Mars Curiosity Rover camera. It shows anomalous objects in the Martian sky. Interesting, but not making speculation.

http://www.unknowncountry.com/out-there/interesting-objects-sky-mars

Technology is as technology does. I am not sure what that statement means, but it was fun stating it. Which also means that Forrest Gump was smarter than I am.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

For Calz, if you are out there........

The artist behind the XKCD comic: http://xkcd.com/

has a new weekly post on Tuesdays called What If: http://what-if.xkcd.com/

where he answers hypothetical scientific questions sent in by readers. My favorite post so far poses this question: How much force can Yoda output?

Find the very astute answer here: http://what-if.xkcd.com/3/

Cheers!

[Dennis Leahy]

The technology i speak of is the ability to manipulate space/time/matter/dimensions/reality.

That, enacted, without some basic and strong evolution/enlightenment (ie, powerfully aware, even in the weaker moments), is a dangerous thing. Very much so.

I've been watching closely, and most definitely, the components required to make or design room temperature superconductors are now in the public realm, ...

...

When I speak about the basics of this technology, the problem is that it unfolds into the potentials for so many ugly aspects, as the single understanding opens all doors, like Pandora's box, in and on the dimensional manipulation/integration level.

...
Is "room temperature superconductors" an umbrella term that would include LENR and and zero point energy extraction devices? Or, are you talking about different technologies altogether (that have the capability of messing with time/space)?

99 out of 100 humans are not sociopathic. Sociopaths tend to move up the ladder to the top in corporations, government, and military. So, we can make a good guess that sociopaths currently control ALL advanced energy-related technology. It is already in the "wrong hands." I am not fearful of the other 99% of us ripping holes in space-time with our home zero point energy generator.

I suppose there is a possibility that photovoltaic cells could have a leap of a dozen magnitudes and that we could possibly provide clean power for the 10 to 20 billion of us there will be in a few decades or a century, but from what I have read, the solar/photovoltaic technology has a very very low probability of ever finding materials that would cause that breakthrough. So, I remain hopeful that zero-point energy extraction devices are going to be the future of energy (even if it is over the dead bodies of oil corporation executives/owners.) So, I embrace that technological unveiling, even with its inherent risks. Sociopaths will not lose all power when zero point energy is unleashed, but they will lose most of it, and that offsets most of the risk, in my mind.

Dennis

[Eram]

The technology i speak of is the ability to manipulate space/time/matter/dimensions/reality.

That, enacted, without some basic and strong evolution/enlightenment (ie, powerfully aware, even in the weaker moments), is a dangerous thing. Very much so.



The Astral planes are thought responsive and so is our 3D world when you study it closely.
If Mozes has split the oceans and Jesus turned water into whine and walked on water, it's easy to see that we can manipulate matter with our awareness.
If this is true, then there is no limit to what we can do from within.
I say that everything that we can achieve with technology, can also be achieved from within, and without technology.

The absence of technology is a perfect way to ensure that spiritual ripeness and the ability to manipulate matter go hand in hand wouldn't it?

I have not yet seen a technology that didn't create separateness and other problems with it's existence.


When we're on the subject: What do you all think about dolphins and whales?
They certainly do not use technology and they are also not responsible for all that is out of whack on this planet. There is plenty of indication to be found that these creatures are as conscious as men, if not more.

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[astrid]

Ok... operation save the tree, is under way,
i spoke to an aborist who said that sometimes tress that fall like that
can happily keep growing, but it depends.
So i have cut it back to have more of a fighting chance,
and how it was fallen, over my veggie garden like that, means if it
survives i can actually use it as a frame for a green house in autumn.
So as often happens, it might be a very happy accident.

[Eram]

I've been sending you a psychic invitation to come participate in this thread, here, for about a week, just to see it it would work, and here you are! Welcome, welcome, something tells me you are just as weird as me, which is a high compliment in my reality.


Its 930 am here

i have been up for about 4 hoours and after my morning meditation i watched my favorite scene from Pulp Fiction .


now i am dedating nuts and dates

I am also very excited about my life. I am enjoying it with every breath and on my mission to help others. this is a very rewarding process for me.

later today i will pick up my mountain bike from service and go for a ride in the forrest !

pece be unto you

Nanoo

awww.... and there I was, mistaking you for one of the few sane people.
You never can tell can you?

[Calz]

http://www.funnycatpix.com/_pics/Sunglasses_Cat459.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9WTlP08LEg

[lookbeyond]

:cool:as a cucumber!

[Calz]

Sorry ... most definitely not "here and now" rather slipping into the past ... but great feel for "hippy daze" and I don't often post from home any more (where I can post music).

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[Jenci]

On the subject of technology and enlightment.......


Mooji at 4.30 minutes, shattering some illusions about people thinking that that they can create a harmonious world ....

"While we have the notion of individuality and right and wrong and morals and immorals and these kinds of things we are going to be in a struggle and we cannot help.

We cannot come together as a people. We cannot. It has never happened before. That the human beings, so to speak or the human expression of consciousnessness, through their own endeavour based on the notion that they are individualities or individual nations different from each other, have the power, the capacity, the love, the understanding.....to use their powers to come together to create a harmonious world. It has never happened. It has never happened.



I'll leave you to watch the video for what he does say can help though.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yk0ANlMmgI


source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yk0ANlMmgI

[ulli]

Sorry ... most definitely not "here and now" rather slipping into the past ... but great feel for "hippy daze"

Truly groovy, Baby! Those were indeed the daze, when life was still simple and one could judge the cool people by the length of their hair and the establishment by their uptight facial expression. And the only people preparing for the end of the world were the Jehova's Witnesses.

[ulli]

On the subject of technology and enlightment.......


Mooji at 4.30 minutes, shattering some illusions about people thinking that that they can create a harmonious world ....

"While we have the notion of individuality and right and wrong and morals and immorals and these kinds of things we are going to be in a struggle and we cannot help.

We cannot come together as a people. We cannot. It has never happened before. That the human beings, so to speak or the human expression of consciousnessness, through their own endeavour based on the notion that they are individualities or individual nations different from each other, have the power, the capacity, the love, the understanding.....to use their powers to come together to create a harmonious world. It has never happened. It has never happened.



I'll leave you to watch the video for what he does say can help though.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yk0ANlMmgI


source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yk0ANlMmgI

After having been an active member of Bahai communities I could never return to a "one man- many disciples" paradigm.
That's what church was about. Listening to gurus monologues is no different. The group thing is in my bones, but without clergy. Leadership coming from the grassroots.
Even though there have been many attempts to go back to the top- down model with an elite doing the bidding, if one looks at the progress of the last hundred years of the unification of mankind there are definitely stirrings in the right direction. The spread of the English language worldwide is contributing to unification, so is music.

I just watched this video of a New Zealand Bahai conference and again felt my spirit stirring, and the "unity in diversity" call coming through loud and clear. I'm so glad for YouTube because I can watch the unification progress from a safe distance where no one can put me on the spot about participation...which was always my biggest problem, me being too rebellious by nature.
This video shows the celebration of human diversity as well as people's willingness to unite, even though it is under the banner of an Iranian religion, the Bahai Faith.

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[Jenci]

I'm going to sound really old here but it is great to see young people waking up !

Just watched this video.....loved it. Sun gazing is not something I have ever done though


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXGbI4QsMg&feature=player_embedded

[Dennis Leahy]

...Mooji at 4.30 minutes, shattering some illusions about people thinking that that they can create a harmonious world ....
{raising hand} I'm kinda guilty of holding that delusion, but I am aiming for a less disharmonious world, rather than a harmonious world.

Although I do get the point (at least intellectually) that divided the Buddhist schools into Mahayana and Hinayana (very simplistically stated, Hinayana being the school that says you can only enlighten yourself so just work on yourself), I would feel that I have abandoned my post if I were not working toward harmonious world (even knowing it cannot be totally be achieved) by disassembling disharmonious systems and replacing them (if a system needs to be) with less disharmonious systems.

Dennis

[Marianne]

Good morning Villagers and all,

One, your post the last page over cracked me up. I'm glad you're feeling better.

Here's another salad dressing that's healthy and tasty,
-- flax oil (the kind in the refrigerated case, with a cold-press date on it of less than three months)
-- ume plum vinegar (it's not really vinegar, more of a salty brine that's had ume plums infused in it)
Put it into the flax oil by drops, tasting to see how much you like. I do about 6:1 flax oil to ume.

Drizzle it on salad greens, raw veggies, steamed veggies, rice or pasta or potatoes, or grains like quinoa, millet, etc.

I got a headache Thursday night, I think from switching modes/food from vacation back to the work world. Trying to get back to eating better and think I took it too fast. This body doesn't switch as easily as it used to! But today is lovely, I have a local grown watermelon I'm about to juice. It was rainy this morning but the sun is starting to shine now.

My heart is full with love for you all.

Today I have to spend lots of time making soap. The botanical garden has sold all they bought from me, and they want more. It takes 3 weeks to cure. Perhaps I have a block against success -- I should've had some ready but I fiddled along and didn't.

I hope each one of us finds love today. If you don't, here's some from me ...

Love,
JB

[RunningDeer]

On the subject of technology and enlightment.......


Mooji at 4.30 minutes, shattering some illusions about people thinking that that they can create a harmonious world ....

"While we have the notion of individuality and right and wrong and morals and immorals and these kinds of things we are going to be in a struggle and we cannot help.

We cannot come together as a people. We cannot. It has never happened before. That the human beings, so to speak or the human expression of consciousnessness, through their own endeavour based on the notion that they are individualities or individual nations different from each other, have the power, the capacity, the love, the understanding.....to use their powers to come together to create a harmonious world. It has never happened. It has never happened.



I'll leave you to watch the video for what he does say can help though.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yk0ANlMmgI


source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yk0ANlMmgI

Thanks for the Mooji vid. Like all his others and books, he says it so simply. Note to self: Schedule more Mooji time. And more letting go of Paula-ness. (again, again, again)

[Carmody]

Good morning Villagers and all,

One, your post the last page over cracked me up. I'm glad you're feeling better.

Here's another salad dressing that's healthy and tasty,
-- flax oil (the kind in the refrigerated case, with a cold-press date on it of less than three months)
-- ume plum vinegar (it's not really vinegar, more of a salty brine that's had ume plums infused in it)
Put it into the flax oil by drops, tasting to see how much you like. I do about 6:1 flax oil to ume.

Drizzle it on salad greens, raw veggies, steamed veggies, rice or pasta or potatoes, or grains like quinoa, millet, etc.

I got a headache Thursday night, I think from switching modes/food from vacation back to the work world. Trying to get back to eating better and think I took it too fast. This body doesn't switch as easily as it used to! But today is lovely, I have a local grown watermelon I'm about to juice. It was rainy this morning but the sun is starting to shine now.

My heart is full with love for you all.

Today I have to spend lots of time making soap. The botanical garden has sold all they bought from me, and they want more. It takes 3 weeks to cure. Perhaps I have a block against success -- I should've had some ready but I fiddled along and didn't.

I hope each one of us finds love today. If you don't, here's some from me ...

Love,
JB

commercial tip: slight hunger in the clients (lack of supply-temporary), that occurs for some given reason..is more effective than overt abundance.

[RunningDeer]

Speaking of technology, I found this video linked from Whitley Strieber's website, Unknown Country, of a video compiled from photos taken by the Mars Curiosity Rover camera. It shows anomalous objects in the Martian sky. Interesting, but not making speculation.

http://www.unknowncountry.com/out-there/interesting-objects-sky-mars

Technology is as technology does. I am not sure what that statement means, but it was fun stating it. Which also means that Forrest Gump was smarter than I am.

"Which also means that Forrest Gump was smarter than I am."

Add me to the list. Forrest Gump is Buddha. Nothing, and no one to forgive because he hasn't judge any one or any of his life experiences. Both are cool dudes.

These are for you, Ataraxas. Note: no GMO'S in preparation, only high quality ingredients.


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[Mark]

What would this world be if there were no ignorant people? If there were no selfish people? If there were no people at different levels of being, of knowledge, of experience? If there were no jealousy? If there were no anger? If there were no hatred?

What need would we have to be here? That would be some form of uni-mind collectivity, I think. The wars are a part of being here on this planet. A part of the separateness that we cultivate so doggedly.

Mooji said that he doesn't assign any special place to children, that they are just little people. Imagine if you come from that place of uni-mind collectivity, then you find yourself within a warm, watery place where you are within someone, feeling their emotions, hearing their voice, then you are thrust from that protection out into a cold, bright world and from then on, everyone around you is trying to make you more independent, more separate. Some mothers don't want to breast feed, parents don't want the child in the bed with them, then they don't want them in the room with them. We teach our children to eat on their own, to sit on their own, then to crawl alone, then to walk alone. Everything we do increases individuality, which is necessary to be here, to a certain degree.

A side effect of that grows to be separateness in society, depending upon how well that society institutionalizes community and collectivity. Some societies are better known for that. Societies where the elders are respected, where community is held to be one of the highest forms of human expression, where family is sacrosanct, where tradition and responsibility based upon a more egalitarian and spiritual understanding of what we are and why we are here is held as common knowledge. Pyramidal societies are the anti-thesis of that.

No matter the state of the society, individual consciousness remains an individual choice. Mooji spoke of the "living spirit" that both Buddha and Christ taught of. Not everyone is going to choose it and even though the institutions of society can be democratized and larger and larger agglomerations of power and control can and will form and evolve, as long as the diversity of the human experience remains the rule rather than the exception ignorant and hateful people will still find their way to power, societies will range between light and dark, atrocities will still happen, tears will still fall, laughter will rise and silent glades of natural beauty will still birth wonder in the hearts of the awakened.

[Marianne]

commercial tip: slight hunger in the clients (lack of supply-temporary), that occurs for some given reason..is more effective than overt abundance.
LOL ... Carmody, does that mean you think I'm eating a whole watermelon today? Thanks for the giggle, it's so nice after feeling bad.
I'm juicing it cause it's too darn big to fit in the refrigerator! And no one in the house will help me eat it. It was a gift, this HUGE melon. I buy smaller ones usually. I'll freeze the juice, I know that's not the best nutritionally but it's better than wasting it.

Is that TMI? Sorry.

Thanks for the tip, it's good advice ... I do like the feeling of being hungry, and try to balance it with my occasional low blood sugar from not eating/not eating the right thing.

[Mark]

Here's a really cool reading that made my day. LOL It kind of does fit in with my experience, I've had a free and well-favored existence and any karma I've experienced has been clearly related to my own previous actions in this lifetime.

Numerology Reading for Karmic Accumulation (http://www.cherrysage.com/numerology.shtml)

Zero Karmic Accumulation

The Karmic Accumulation number is found by taking all the missing numbers in the name and then adding them together. What does it mean when no numbers are missing in the name at birth? Just because there are no numbers missing in your name does not mean there is no karma at all for you to deal with in this life. Yes, karma exists!

None of us would likely have chosen to incarnate presently if there was not some karmic imbalance in our evolution. As a general rule, a name with no missing number suggests a dharmic lifetime rather than one which is heavily karmic.

What is a dharmic lifetime? This means roughly that rather than having to spend so much time straightening out past imbalance, the individual will be able to concentrate more upon the furtherance of evolution and soul growth by opening new avenues of unfoldment and work; so zero is a karmic plus for the THINKING person.

This is a plateau period of one's evolution; you have to consciously make a choice as to how you wish to progress in consciousness. This is not as easy as it appears, because there is little push from within, and fewer specific needs to fulfill. You do not have the missing numbers to provide a focus or impetus for specific action. Unknowingly, one can begin to drift and lose control of destiny. If no effect is directed purposefully to your growth, then in subsequent lifetimes new missing numbers could occur and your wheel of karma would spin along through new cycles. With this combination, the individual has the chance to decide and accomplish what he/she feels from the soul to be most significant for unfoldment action. Use it fruitfully.

If there are no other areas of imbalance indicated in your chart, you may have in this life a unique opportunity to balance all patterns and experiences contained in the symbolism of the numbers. As a soul approaches cosmic consciousness, the need to incarnate will be completed. Much depends on your ability to master the traits of each number.

This is a life pattern where personality shortcomings must truly be brought into conscious focus and harmonized. You have a tremendous depth of awareness and take life events with a purposeful responsibility. A distinct sort of detachment and impersonal feelings pervades your attitude toward life; it is literally as if you have been through it all before and have begun to tire of earthly routine. It is difficult for you to sustain a prolonged interest or enthusiasm for mundane activities because the soul cries out to be free of this dimension, to move along in its destiny. All of a sudden, the sobering thought may overwhelm you - what a task it is to finish up the demands of this earthly plane.

You can be suspicious, critical, and moody. These qualities must now be transmitted into ones of optimism, hope and a trusting faith in higher guidance. Your logical procedure is to generalize by bringing the overview of wholeness down to each small part. When an adversary starts to pick at the details of your structure, you become uneasy and at times defenseless. Because of your expansive outlook and understanding of so many viewpoints toward life, it is easy for you to switch views or to succumb to another’s viewpoint for the sake of harmony even though you still disagree. Let this ambiguity work for you.

Motivation is an ingredient that often haunts you for there seem to be so many things you could do; yet, it is hard to decide. Be careful that your desire for release from this plane does not lead you into escapist behavior.

If you have not discovered your heart’s desire, the deeper teachings of metaphysical and related studies will be of great guidance and comfort. Learn to give thanks for all that comes to you and visualize the perfection in yourself, others, and each situation that arises in your life. You are closer than ever to the possibility of attaining that perfect goal.

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks for the tip, it's good advice ... I do like the feeling of being hungry, and try to balance it with my occasional low blood sugar from not eating/not eating the right thing.
I'm guessing Carmody had the soap making business in mind ... but I can't tell if Marianne is guessing the same thing and being sly, or if I'm "out to lunch".

[Marianne]

Thanks for the tip, it's good advice ... I do like the feeling of being hungry, and try to balance it with my occasional low blood sugar from not eating/not eating the right thing.
I'm guessing Carmody had the soap making business in mind ... but I can't tell if Marianne is guessing the same thing and being sly, or if I'm "out to lunch".

Paul, I'm the one who's out to lunch! Anyway, it made me laugh.

Just when I thought I knew what Carmody was saying ...

[RunningDeer]

I'm going to sound really old here but it is great to see young people waking up !

Just watched this video.....loved it. Sun gazing is not something I have ever done though.

Thanks Jeanette, this sun gazing vid I watched a bit ago by Lisa Harrison. I always look forward to her interviews.

As for sun gazing myself, I tried, but it's not regular enough. On my walks, I keep my sunglass off for a little while. I've got blue-green eyes, so there's sensitivity to light. (so I've read, hard to know any different)

And there's the vanity thing, if I'm squinting, then I'm adding to the map that's writing itself onto my face.http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

Discussed in the first 4-5 minutes:

- How there’s a campaign to prevent us from receiving the sun’s energy to receive sun physically, emotional, mentally, and spiritually.
- How Lisa experiences wisdom and clarity from sun gazing.
- Four simple things to participate in the ascension process you do need anything more than: what you get from the sun, connecting to Mother Earth, connecting to your heart and being yourself.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j54ccEW0yv0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j54ccEW0yv0



What do you all think about dolphins and whales?
They certainly do not use technology and they are also not responsible for all that is out of whack on this planet. There is plenty of indication to be found that these creatures are as conscious as men, if not more.


Great dolphins vids, Wakytweaky. By the vid #3, it summed up my thoughts on dolphins. They have higher consciousness like us, if not more so (dare I say) from what I see in the human species as a whole these days. This is based on my personal list of what’s important for a loving community: supportive and compassionate. Dolphins make great teachers and are here for that purpose.

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[Mark]

As for sun gazing myself, I tried, but it's not regular enough. On my walks, I keep my sunglass off for a little while. I've got blue-green eyes, so there's sensitivity to light. (so I've read, hard to know any different)

And there's the vanity thing, if I'm squinting, then I'm adding to the map that's writing itself onto my face.

I like to sun-gaze. I started doing it with my lady Sira over a year ago. We would sit out on the back porch in the evenings and watch when the sun was nearing the horizon. We quickly found out there was a big difference in how we each were able to do it.

She has light blue eyes, I have dark brown. She can watch the sun when it is late in the evening and close to sunset, I can watch it generally from late afternoon to sunset. When we go out during the day she complains of her eyes hurting if she doesn't wear sunglasses and she can't look at the sky at all. Sometimes I find it hard to look if it is a particularly bright day but it's not near impossible to look at it, as it seems to be for her.

You can always get dark contacts! Walk around with black eyes! LOL

[RunningDeer]

As for sun gazing myself, I tried, but it's not regular enough. On my walks, I keep my sunglass off for a little while. I've got blue-green eyes, so there's sensitivity to light. (so I've read, hard to know any different)

And there's the vanity thing, if I'm squinting, then I'm adding to the map that's writing itself onto my face.

I like to sun-gaze. I started doing it with my lady Sira over a year ago. We would sit out on the back porch in the evenings and watch when the sun was nearing the horizon. We quickly found out there was a big difference in how we each were able to do it.

She has light blue eyes, I have dark brown. She can watch the sun when it is late in the evening and close to sunset, I can watch it generally from late afternoon to sunset. When we go out during the day she complains of her eyes hurting if she doesn't wear sunglasses and she can't look at the sky at all. Sometimes I find it hard to look if it is a particularly bright day but it's not near impossible to look at it, as it seems to be for her.

You can always get dark contacts! Walk around with black eyes! LOL

The tree line blocks out the sun by 3:00 pm. Good news/bad news less summer heat, but no sun set gazing. I try in the mornings, but my body or I should say Wolfie, my dog, says rise and shine after sun rise. So it's about 7:00 am when the sun is filtered between the pine trees. I use them as my organic glasses. Tee.

"You can always get dark contacts! Walk around with black eyes!" - Will dark circles do?

On a more serious note, by appealing to the individual's vanity, it's a good way to obstruct sun filtration for the pineal gland and heightened knowing. Grrrr, to the power of advertising. Promote contact lenses and lens replacement surgery over framed glasses. Can't leave out brainwashing of pop fashion, large framed sunglasses are vogue; be like a 'movie-star'. People with blue or green eyes tend to be more sensitive to sunlight, I bought in to the polarized lens.

Until I learned about sun gazing, I had reflective tint on my apartment windows for privacy and sun protection. (I still left some on.) Lastly, most vehicle at least in the US have tinted windows, if only slightly.

What can I say? Time to waky-waky...http://r24.imgfast.net/users/2411/23/55/04/smiles/262321.gif

[Guest]

Everybody remember this

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This movie came out in 2010... I missed it. Found it while looking for "The Gods Must Be Crazy."

Author on water wars discovers a 30,000 year old secret on climate change adaptation. Book Trailer of "Heart of Dryness" by James Workman. A true story of how the last Bushmen of Botswana were expelled from their land, in the name of development and diamonds. "The tribal David's triumph over the Governmental Goilath is riveting" PUBLISHERS WEEKLY. An amazing story from amazing people, in the heart of an amazing jewel of our planet.

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On sun gazing.... places where there are "no-fly" zones and do not have a heavy military or psy-ops presence are like being in an entirely different plain.... I have spent a lot of time sun-gazing in some of these areas -much easier on the eyes and there is a (significantly marginal difference) in the disruption of the human energy bodies and on the physiological system.


Love


Nora

[dan33]

the night of the hunter
From 1:28 to 2:12
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the gods may be crazy :) ha,ha. thanks Nora

[dan33]

Happy Birthday Bob (Redford) and Happy Unbirthday to the Another Bob. :)

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Great March for the Village.
Many people think that Marchs is for Dogs. NO. Over our history, CATS have composed the best marches. True. The only dog ​​that is a good musician is White Tail.

Materpiece theme music. A BRIDGE TOO FAR.
From 2:30.

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[Guest]

Great March for the Village.
Many people think that Marchs is for Dogs. NO. Over our history, CATS have composed the best marches. True. The only dog ​​that is a good musician is White Tail.


You are funny dan33,

From the play Cats Jellicle Cats

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Love


Nora

[eaglespirit]

Hmmm....Someone mention sungazing...Cccooooollll !!!
HeHeHe, from the walking- talking- breathing- heart-beating sun guy : )
http://wellnessuncovered.com/joomla/images/stories/sun_gazing.jpg

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Mmmmmm yummy.... Chocolate hearts, thanks WCBD!


These are for you, Ataraxas. Note: no GMO'S in preparation, only high quality ingredients.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/hearts_choco.JPG

As for sungazing, I remember, as a child, my parents and elders telling me not to stare at the sun, but I never listened. I would do it for a while and then close my eyes and just watch the colored images dance behind my eyelids and wonder what in the world was I looking at. For a kid, I was perplexed at seeing things while my eyes were closed. A paradox I still can't figure out. Regardless, still looking at that Fat Old Sun mornings and evenings when I can catch it!

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[Carmody]

The technology i speak of is the ability to manipulate space/time/matter/dimensions/reality.

That, enacted, without some basic and strong evolution/enlightenment (ie, powerfully aware, even in the weaker moments), is a dangerous thing. Very much so.

I've been watching closely, and most definitely, the components required to make or design room temperature superconductors are now in the public realm, ...

...

When I speak about the basics of this technology, the problem is that it unfolds into the potentials for so many ugly aspects, as the single understanding opens all doors, like Pandora's box, in and on the dimensional manipulation/integration level.

...
Is "room temperature superconductors" an umbrella term that would include LENR and and zero point energy extraction devices? Or, are you talking about different technologies altogether (that have the capability of messing with time/space)?

99 out of 100 humans are not sociopathic. Sociopaths tend to move up the ladder to the top in corporations, government, and military. So, we can make a good guess that sociopaths currently control ALL advanced energy-related technology. It is already in the "wrong hands." I am not fearful of the other 99% of us ripping holes in space-time with our home zero point energy generator.

I suppose there is a possibility that photovoltaic cells could have a leap of a dozen magnitudes and that we could possibly provide clean power for the 10 to 20 billion of us there will be in a few decades or a century, but from what I have read, the solar/photovoltaic technology has a very very low probability of ever finding materials that would cause that breakthrough. So, I remain hopeful that zero-point energy extraction devices are going to be the future of energy (even if it is over the dead bodies of oil corporation executives/owners.) So, I embrace that technological unveiling, even with its inherent risks. Sociopaths will not lose all power when zero point energy is unleashed, but they will lose most of it, and that offsets most of the risk, in my mind.

Dennis

someone told me a while back ....that if one wanted to create scalar waves, they could try pulse feeding a solar cell.............(use it as a transmitter)

As for the rest, regarding the greater majority of humanity not being sociopaths, yes, that is indeed true.

The problem is the simpler aspects of moments of anger. Wife leaves, husband tracks her down and kills her, the kids, and himself.

Now, if something more potent was available.

Religious fanaticism?

The problem is access, ability, simplicity of design and modification of said 'gear'.

One of the problems is building/designing/selling a 'mystery' device. That is not a solution, either.

In the same breath, I'm talking about the potential of making anti-matter type devices that would only register as plastic, if tested or transported and scanned.

This is what I mean, by all doors open.

A third type of electron orbital was just found, for example. This may end up explaining things like brown's gas, which is considered impossible. This leads right to the Nazi bell and 'Xerum X525'. (brown's gas is in an altered electron orbital state and co-joining that is not considered by mainstream science to be possible. Yet, when all known rules and math/physics is applied to the suggested model of this third rail of electron orbital joining, the math/physics and the brown's gas physical properties all agree to perfection. It very likely that it is the '3rd state' that the Nature article is speaking on. If this is the case... it is beyond suggestion, it is already done)

http://www.nature.com/news/stars-draw-atoms-closer-together-1.11045

Except that now we don't need the bell to make such things. Or any other form of matter or alloy. Just a certain trick....and a bit of understanding of the mechanism.

Making any element on the table of elements may indeed be possible, with the right seed material. This I give extremely high possibility, to the point that I say it is a done deal.

So the story of 'reptilians' connected to gold... gets a giant dunking - which it so richly deserves.


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Here. I'll double solar cell efficiency for you.

The discharge curve of a solar cell is not linear.

No load vs full load.

NL voltage on a 12V cell could be as high as 18V? Or more?

Now, when the load is connected, it drops at the speed of a discharge curve on a capacitor, to a minor degree.

But when the load is disconnected, it bounces back to the NL level...at FTL levels and speeds. Scalar.

Thus...use a pulse discharge method in the MHZ range on a solar cell, and the efficiency (power into load, over time) should be doubled.

Except you have a problem, with the solar cell at that point. Ever heard of a black body radiator? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation)

It is very likely the solar cell would them become a MHZ oriented scalar radiator, in the same way that a black body radiator exists (http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html?zenid=g7qq0mjufk61bhof94bavem3m2). (FTL dimensional/'dark matter' integrator) So one has the energetic solution they desire to some degree..but a twist..a problem. Something akin to an orgone generator of an unknown nature. Innocent seeming desire, fantastic seeming result......and an unknown level of potent results on and in a plane of awareness that we cannot directly perceive with our 5 senses.

Thus, I say that it is possible to double the efficiency of solar cells, easily so.

However, the mess it creates is far bigger.

So I scrapped it - hopefully it can be seen why.

Now, all we need is a few idiots, with some solar cells... and a signal generator/amplifier or two.

[another bob]

Our species has a long way to go, just to get to square one:


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A follow-up article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/15/bosnia-sex-trafficking-whistleblower

Has the UN learned lessons of Bosnian sex slavery revealed in Rachel Weisz film?

The Whistleblower is a shocking film that reveals how Balkan peacekeepers turned a blind eye to kidnapping, torture and rape. But these abuses still go on.


We do not see the torture inflicted on one girl for trying to flee her captors, but we see the tears of her fellow slaves forced to watch. We see the iron bar tossed on to the cellar floor when the punishment is over, and we know what has happened.

The Whistleblower spares you little. It is a film about that most depraved of crimes: trafficking women for enslaved sex, rape and even murder.

As a dramatised portrayal of reality, however, The Whistleblower is "a day at the beach compared to what happened in real life", says its director, Larysa Kondracki. "We show what is just about permissible to show. We couldn't possibly include the three-week desensitisation period, when they burn the girls in particular places. We couldn't really capture the hopelessness of life these women are subjected to."

Starring Rachel Weisz, The Whistleblower, released tomorrow on DVD, is the most searing drama-documentary of recent years and has won many prizes. But more important than the accolades is that everything in the film is true. The film deals with enslavement and rape in Bosnia, not during wartime 20 years ago but during the peace. Worse, not only were the enslaved women's "clients" soldiers and police officers – so too were the traffickers, protected at the top of the United Nations operation in Bosnia.

Such was the crisis sparked by the ensuing film last year that the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, was obliged in October to stage a special screening and to pledge action. But now it emerges that senior UN officials tried to belittle the film and play it down, while the whistleblower herself warns that, for all the UN's professed resolve, "unfortunately, the widespread horror is already there. This is not going to be simple or a quick fix."

Moreover, the UN has shut down effective anti-trafficking initiatives by its own gender affairs chief in Bosnia.

Kathryn Bolkovac, from Nebraska, was sacked by Dyncorp of Virginia, to which peacekeeping police work in Bosnia had been outsourced; her employer claimed she had filed erroneous time-sheets, but was challenged by Bolkovac and overruled by a British employment tribunal in 2002.

Speaking to the Observer last week, Bolkovac said: "The thing that stood out about these cases in Bosnia, and cases that have been reported in other [UN] mission areas, is … that police and humanitarian workers were frequently involved in not only the facilitation of forced sexual abuse, and the use of children and young women in brothels, but in many instances became involved in the trade by racketeering, bribery and outright falsifying of documents as part of a broader criminal syndicate."

Bolkovac volunteered for Bosnia's peacekeeping force in the late 1990s, working on domestic abuse cases, which brought her into contact with the leading UN officer for gender issues, Madeleine Rees, played by Vanessa Redgrave in the film.

"I went to work with large numbers of women who had been the victims of rape during the war," said Rees. "But I ended up working as much with women who were being trafficked and raped by soldiers and police officers sent to keep the peace." Bolkovac uncovered a network of brothels and bars at which kidnapped women were enslaved to "service" peacekeepers. "This was a difficult time in my life," said Bolkovac. "Not being able to know who to trust when you are working with police officers and UN officials … It was clear that the protection of the 'good old boys' club' was a first priority."

As Bolkovac took her concerns up the chain of command, she was blocked; her work was sabotaged, her life threatened. She had two allies: Rees, and a supportive Dutch colleague who became her husband. Rees had been working with wartime rape survivors and law enforcement officers to confront the abuse rackets. Their approach was "based on protection and welfare of victims, providing advice, immunity that was not conditional on them giving evidence, visas to remain and possible asylum", she said. But their success triggered international intervention that sought to refocus on prosecution and repatriation, "ignoring the autonomy of the women themselves". The prosecutions were to be of local criminals only – UN employees enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

"Countries get rated by the US Trafficking in Persons report on their records in dealing with trafficking," said Rees, "for which you need to show results. If you don't prosecute or repatriate enough people, your rating is downgraded, thereby your financial support. So when there were raids, the girls would be shipped home to Ukraine or wherever, probably to be retrafficked. It was a repatriation factory, run by people who had an anti-immigration approach, and didn't want women to try to get into western Europe – no focus on the system or rights of the women. Our approach, by contrast, was slow and beginning to work, so it had to be killed off."

After Bolkovac was fired, she noted that, although Dyncorp was an American company, her contract was "governed under the laws of England". Rees put Bolkovac in touch with a lawyer she knew in Birmingham, Karen Bailey.

"It was a straightforward protected disclosure case," said Bailey. "The issues were huge, and we were up against a vast company. But it wasn't a complex case." On 2 August 2002, the tribunal ruled unanimously that Bolkovac's boss "had a knife in the applicant and was determined that she be removed from her role as gender monitor".

"What they found quite clearly," said Bailey, "was that she was dismissed because she raised the issue of trafficking. The tribunal did not suggest that there was anything inaccurate about the issues she was raising."

In April 2003, Dyncorp dropped its appeal against the verdict, and three days later announced an award by the US state department for a contract to police Iraq.

Kondracki had been waiting for a story like Bolkovac's to come her way. "I wanted to make a film about this theme very badly – but no one wants to watch a film of an enslaved girl being raped for two hours," she said. "Then along came Kathy's story, and a form in which this theme had not been done."

The film is a fictionalised dramatisation of Bolkovac's time in Bosnia, in which the protagonist is employed by a company called "DemocraCorp", and the names of her real-life superiors are changed. Bolkovac also wrote a memoir, in parallel with the film, in which the characters and company are given their real names.

Before the film was released, Dyncorp confirmed that "a handful of individuals were terminated" after inquiries by the army criminal investigative command. The company said Bolkovac's "allegations" had been "aggressively and responsibly addressed".

The company quotes a US army investigating agent as saying: "Neither Dyncorp nor its employees were involved." To which Rees comments: "Dyncorp say there is this investigation, but who has seen it? There was a UN oversight office report on Bosnia, which found there had been trafficking. Kathy won her case, and Dyncorp has not appealed."

In a more recent internal memo obtained by Bolkovac and the Observer, the renamed Dyncorp International denied that any employees were involved in trafficking and explained to employees: "Our goal is to reach out to you proactively with the facts before you hear about them elsewhere … We strongly disagree with Ms Bolkovac's assertions surrounding the circumstances of her dismissal, and with a British employment tribunal that ruled in her favour in 2002."

The film also put the UN under acute scrutiny. An internal UN memo, which was leaked to Kondracki, reports senior officials arguing "that the UN should be proactive and condemn unacceptable practices in Bosnia".

Others, however, "thought that … public screening of the movie at the UN, to be followed by a frank discussion is counterproductive. They preferred downplaying the film."

Bolkovac and Rees were not invited to attend the UN's October screening until six days beforehand (Bolkovac could not make it because her son's wedding was taking place the same day). Kondracki told the UN leadership: "I'd like to say that this screening and panel will lead to genuine discussion and thought about the UN's involvement in sex trafficking and other crimes. I'd like to say that, but I do worry. I know we are going to hear a lot about what has been done since the time depicted in this film, but rhetoric only goes so far. The situation has escalated."

Rees was also fired from her UN post, ostensibly for poor performance, but she won her case at a UN disputes tribunal. She went on to become general secretary of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, the international women's rights organisation for social justice and against militarisation, founded during the first world war.

Reflecting on The Whistleblower, Rees said: "It's not enough for the UN to say, 'There are a few rotten apples that need to be got rid of.' They have to understand that this outrageous practice is endemic in the male hegemony of a militarised environment – it's part of locker-room bravado and the high levels of testosterone in fighting armies.

"These crimes are perpetrated by individual men who rape and torture girls on mission, then go home to their wives. And it'll carry on until there's a knock at the door and they find themselves getting arrested in front of the wife and kids."

[Jenci]

Hmmm....Someone mention sungazing...Cccooooollll !!!
HeHeHe, from the walking- talking- breathing- heart-beating sun guy : )
http://wellnessuncovered.com/joomla/images/stories/sun_gazing.jpg


I tried it for the first time this morning. It's a beautiful day, no clouds.

I took a chair outside the front of the house and sat on the drive as it is the only place I can see the sun as it rises over the houses - what will the neighbours think :lol:


Any fear I had went quickly when I realised that I will stop looking when I have had enough. I enjoyed it, sometimes looking at it and sometimes just squinting in the direction of it....and then I knew I had had enough.

Well I still seem to have my eyesight so I think I might try it again tonight if the sky stays clear.

Jeanette

[bluestflame]

this whole " diplomatic immunity" racket needs another look

[ulli]

Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

~Albert Einstein


Without wisdom, that is . . .

Saw a good line earlier

Wisdom without action is just as bad as action without wisdom.
(or words to that effect)
Anyone here feel themselves addressed?

[RunningDeer]

Hmmm....Someone mention sungazing...Cccooooollll !!!
HeHeHe, from the walking- talking- breathing- heart-beating sun guy : )
http://wellnessuncovered.com/joomla/images/stories/sun_gazing.jpg


I tried it for the first time this morning. It's a beautiful day, no clouds.

I took a chair outside the front of the house and sat on the drive as it is the only place I can see the sun as it rises over the houses - what will the neighbours think :lol:

Any fear I had went quickly when I realised that I will stop looking when I have had enough. I enjoyed it, sometimes looking at it and sometimes just squinting in the direction of it....and then I knew I had had enough.

Well I still seem to have my eyesight so I think I might try it again tonight if the sky stays clear.

Jeanette

Hi Jeanette,
Swoosh...
One of the things that I like about the vid you introduced is you don't have to question whether it's disinformation or not. He demonstrates directly that it is safe. I also like the wisdom he shares.

I'm using my hands to filter for nano seconds that seem too intense, and alternating my eyes until I alleviate the fear program. Glad you posted!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXGbI4QsMg&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXGbI4QsMg&feature=player_embedded

[Marianne]

Coffee Owls

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/431514_416767925035654_834795400_n.jpg

Loved the sun gazing video. I am going to try it next time we have a sunrise not hidden by clouds and rain. :)

Happy Sunday.

[Eram]

OK Here and Nowers...asking for suggestions, advice, personal experience please.

My oldest Daughter has Hashimoto's Disease (hypothyroidism) and it is coming on strong with Her lately...in this disease the immune system attacks/degenerates the thyroid.

We will be getting some MMS and I have taken note of Onawah's "aloe vera" gel drink in prior post, thank you.

Thank You beforehand to anyone that is familiar with this and has knowledge to offer : )

I am looking at natural remedies online also.

While we're on the subject of sun gazing...

This is an account that I ran into while searching info about it.


[... When I first began Sun Gazing in 2005, I lived on the beach in San Diego, and got up to 25 minutes - I felt the best physically and mentally in years, and had phenomenal physical strength (I was 59 yo). I moved to Colorado, and encountered trees and snow, so I ended my gazing at 30 minutes. My physical and mental health totally deteriorated in Colorado! Artificial light did not "do it" for me! There I was finally diagnosed with lifelong, mis-diagnosed Celiac Disease that has destroyed my ability to absorb B vitamins and lipids from my foods.

6 years later, I have moved to Arizona - the land of the sun - and have started up Sun Gazing again. I had to stay on 5 SECONDS for an entire week until I could add another 5 SECONDS per day! Then I began to add the normal 10 seconds/day, and I am up to 2 minutes of gazing -NOT STARING - into the new sun each morning.

I cannot begin to tell you how "whole" I now feel! My endocrine system is coming back into balance, even at this beginning stage! I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, which is primarily a disorder of the ADRENAL glands, which severely unbalances the thyroid and sex hormones, the endocrine triad. When it is cloudy, I go outside and practice my gazing, but I do not add more time after - I only add time after finishing the SUN gazing, and ONLY if I feel that I can move on to more time! HRM and others who successfully practice REAL Sun Gazing write and tell, over and over, that it is up to the individual to feel comfortable with this practice, to slowly add 5-10 seconds per day, and to STOP if it does not feel right; that it is a SPIRITUAL practice that will OPEN up a person to using the other parts of their brain that lie dormant; that it is about SLOWLY releasing the emotional content stored within us, cleansing, revitalizing with the energy of the sun, and becoming a whole new person. It is not a race, not a fad, not something to take on as a whim. ...]

source (http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/sun_gazing.html)

I have some problems with the adrenal glands, or so it seems and I'm going to try sun gazing too.
I have a good feeling about it.

[another bob]

Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

~Albert Einstein


Without wisdom, that is . . .

Saw a good line earlier

Wisdom without action is just as bad as action without wisdom.

View & Conduct

“There were two aspects for practitioners. The first is to develop a spacious mind or view - limitless, open, free, and released. Secondly, one's physical actions with body, speech and mind must be perfect - ethical down to the minuetest detail. In the beginning, the latter is very important and then as one's view gradually develops, conduct takes care of itself automatically without effort, just by merely having the profound view. Conduct is the ideal of loving kindness and compassion towards all beings equally. Without conduct, the highest view can be harmful because people think they have the view and that everything will be alright without paying attention to conduct. But they are only thinking that; it is not a true realization, so their reasoning is faulty. Patrul Rinpoche said that if someone says to you that they have the view but they don't show loving kindness - you should stuff their mouths with the sh*t of one hundred towns. So we don't emphasize only the view and neglect behavior; but also the opposite is incorrect - not trying to understand the view but examining conduct. If you practice only virtuous conduct for hundreds of aeons, enlightenment is never reached. We also need the wisdom of the view - pure buddha mind view. If you only practice only from the outer point of view - you are like a chicken -- you are a bird, but you can't fly; but if you practice conduct and view, you are like a soaring garuda and everything unfolds very quickly in a single lifetime.”

~Tharchin Rinpoche


“To lose the conduct in the view means that the view, which is emptiness, is superimposed upon all one's actions. One might say "Good is empty, evil is also empty, everything is emptiness, so what does it matter." Then one becomes uncaring & frivolous & doesn't discriminate between help & harm, good & evil. That is losing the conduct in the view. Please be careful to avoid this mistake!

The other extreme is to lose the view in the conduct, to only think in terms of good & evil, what is virtuous & unvirtuous. It is through the view that one is liberated. If you lose the view in the conduct, you will never have the opportunity to be free.

Padmasambhava said: "Though the view should be as vast as the sky, keep your conduct as fine as barley flour." Don't confuse one with the other. When training in the view, you can be as unbiased, as impartial, as vast, immense, & unlimited as the sky. Your behaviour, on the other hand, should be as careful as possible in discriminating what is beneficial or harmful, what is good or evil. One can combine the view & conduct, but don't mix them or lose one in the other. That is very important.

'View like the sky' means that nothing is held onto in any way whatsoever. You are not stuck anywhere at all. In other words, there is no discrimination as to what to accept & what to reject; no line is drawn separating one thing from another. 'Conduct as fine as barley flour' means that there is good & evil, & one needs to differentiate between the two. Give up negative deeds; practice the Dharma. In your behaviour, in your conduct, it is necessary to accept & reject."

~The View & the Conduct
"As It Is: Vol. II" by Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche

[Jenci]

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Hi Jeanette,
Swoosh...
One of the things that I like about the vid you introduced is you don't have to question whether it's disinformation or not. He demonstrates directly that it is safe. I also like the wisdom he shares.

I'm using my hands to filter for nano seconds that seem too intense, and alternating my eyes until I alleviate the fear program. Glad you posted!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXGbI4QsMg&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXGbI4QsMg&feature=player_embedded

Hi Paula

I loved his wisdom too.....and also the presentation. It was very fresh !

When I sat outside to try sun gazing this morning, I noticed the fear arise just as I was about to look up -" how will I know when I have had enough?" but immediately after, there was the knowing, I would just know when to stop.

I used my hands too, some of the time.

...and when I came back indoors with my eyesight still intact, I thought to myself "that's another thing they have lied to us about!"


Jeanette

[Carmody]

”but if you practice conduct and view, you are like a soaring garuda and everything unfolds very quickly in a single lifetime.”

This is what i went after.

and it came, rather quickly.

however, the preparatory (lay up-set up, etc) time to get to that period, was a meandering intended and attended path that took 30 years to come into being. All of that time, was preparation of the mind to accept the coming period of doing both.

I set my life up so it was a gauntlet with but one path that was viable, to the mind and body's ideas on reality and thinking. thus instead of simply trying..I combined that with making the doorway very very narrow and built in only one way.

I found that some key components were acceptance, dedication, and action in those areas. Areas of simplifying life so the corners and moments to be negotiated where small enough and few enough that the process of seeing the way could be found and moved forward.

Then it happened.....very very fast.

Another's path will be different, of course. Similar destination, different bit of meandering.

[Carmody]

speaking about the Sun.

Unusual, or unexpected results in observations.

Results that have no answer. Results that are far too perfect for even science to deal with or understand.

The Sun's almost perfectly round shape baffles scientists

The sun is nearly the roundest object ever measured. If scaled to the size of a beach ball, it would be so round that the difference between the widest and narrow diameters would be much less than the width of a human hair.


The sun rotates every 28 days, and because it doesn't have a solid surface, it should be slightly flattened. This tiny flattening has been studied with many instruments for almost 50 years to learn about the sun's rotation, especially the rotation below its surface, which we can't see directly.

Now Jeff Kuhn and Isabelle Scholl (Institute for Astronomy, University of Hawaii at Manoa), Rock Bush (Stanford University), and Marcelo Emilio (Universidade Estadual de Ponta Grossa, Brazil) have used the Helioseismic and Magnetic Imager (HMI) onboard the Solar Dynamics Observatory satellite to obtain what they believe is the definitive -- and baffling -- answer.

Because there is no atmosphere in space to distort the solar image, they were able to use HMI's exquisite image sensitivity to measure the solar shape with unprecedented accuracy. The results indicate that if the Sun were shrunk to a ball one meter in diameter, its equatorial diameter would be only 17 millionths of a meter larger than the diameter through its North-South pole, which is its rotation axis.

http://phys.org/news/2012-08-sun-perfectly-baffles-scientists.html

(at a 1M diameter, the error is 1/17,000th of a millimeter from being a perfect sphere)

[another bob]

I set my life up so it was a gauntlet with but one path that was viable, to the mind and body's ideas on reality and thinking. thus instead of simply trying..I combined that with making the doorway very very narrow and built in only one way.

Yes, that's the only way to go -- follow one thing through to the very end. The problem these days is that the aspirant is bombarded by all sorts of methods, schemes, teachers, and techniques, so that they cobble together a little of this and a little of that, and end up with indigestion, and more confused than when they started. At some point, if fortunate, they become disgusted with the whole "spiritual" search, and interestingly enough, that's when real progress can happen.

[RunningDeer]

”but if you practice conduct and view, you are like a soaring garuda and everything unfolds very quickly in a single lifetime.”

This is what i went after.

and it came, rather quickly.

however, the predatory (lay up-set up, etc) time to get to that period, was a meandering intended and attended path that took 30 years to come into being. All of that time, was preparation of the mind to accept the coming period of doing both.

I set my life up so it was a gauntlet with but one path that was viable, to the mind and body's ideas on reality and thinking. thus instead of simply trying..I combined that with making the doorway very very narrow and built in only one way.

I found that some key components were acceptance, dedication, and action in those areas. Areas of simplifying life so the corners and moments to be negotiated where small enough and few enough that the process of seeing the way could be found and moved forward.

Then it happened.....very very fast.

Another's path will be different, of course. Similar destination, different bit of meandering.


"I combined that with making the doorway very very narrow and built in only one way."

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Bryce/57.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Bryce/136-1.jpg

[Carmody]

That's supposed to be 'preparatory', not predatory. However Freudian the slip was, regarding being a predator to the self, to the ego/body... that was interested in alternative routes of freedom. I did indeed stalk myself and trip my own feet and trip my own life into singular, narrowed pathways. People would always ask, 'What the hell are you doing? You have such potential!"

When you are drowning, the limbs always flail about. The trick is to not get absorbed in thinking that the flailing limbs are somehow you.

[RunningDeer]

I set my life up so it was a gauntlet with but one path that was viable, to the mind and body's ideas on reality and thinking. thus instead of simply trying..I combined that with making the doorway very very narrow and built in only one way.

Yes, that's the only way to go -- follow one thing through to the very end. The problem these days is that the aspirant is bombarded by all sorts of methods, schemes, teachers, and techniques, so that they cobble together a little of this and a little of that, and end up with indigestion, and more confused than when they started. At some point, if fortunate, they become disgusted with the whole "spiritual" search, and interestingly enough, that's when real progress can happen.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Thank_You/54.jpg

[Dennis Leahy]

The technology i speak of is the ability to manipulate space/time/matter/dimensions/reality.

That, enacted, without some basic and strong evolution/enlightenment (ie, powerfully aware, even in the weaker moments), is a dangerous thing. Very much so.

I've been watching closely, and most definitely, the components required to make or design room temperature superconductors are now in the public realm, ...

...

When I speak about the basics of this technology, the problem is that it unfolds into the potentials for so many ugly aspects, as the single understanding opens all doors, like Pandora's box, in and on the dimensional manipulation/integration level.

...
Is "room temperature superconductors" an umbrella term that would include LENR and and zero point energy extraction devices? Or, are you talking about different technologies altogether (that have the capability of messing with time/space)?

99 out of 100 humans are not sociopathic. Sociopaths tend to move up the ladder to the top in corporations, government, and military. So, we can make a good guess that sociopaths currently control ALL advanced energy-related technology. It is already in the "wrong hands." I am not fearful of the other 99% of us ripping holes in space-time with our home zero point energy generator.

I suppose there is a possibility that photovoltaic cells could have a leap of a dozen magnitudes and that we could possibly provide clean power for the 10 to 20 billion of us there will be in a few decades or a century, but from what I have read, the solar/photovoltaic technology has a very very low probability of ever finding materials that would cause that breakthrough. So, I remain hopeful that zero-point energy extraction devices are going to be the future of energy (even if it is over the dead bodies of oil corporation executives/owners.) So, I embrace that technological unveiling, even with its inherent risks. Sociopaths will not lose all power when zero point energy is unleashed, but they will lose most of it, and that offsets most of the risk, in my mind.

Dennis

someone told me a while back ....that if one wanted to create scalar waves, they could try pulse feeding a solar cell.............(use it as a transmitter)

As for the rest, regarding the greater majority of humanity not being sociopaths, yes, that is indeed true.

The problem is the simpler aspects of moments of anger. Wife leaves, husband tracks her down and kills her, the kids, and himself.

Now, if something more potent was available.

Religious fanaticism?

The problem is access, ability, simplicity of design and modification of said 'gear'.

One of the problems is building/designing/selling a 'mystery' device. That is not a solution, either.

In the same breath, I'm talking about the potential of making anti-matter type devices that would only register as plastic, if tested or transported and scanned.

This is what I mean, by all doors open.

A third type of electron orbital was just found, for example. This may end up explaining things like brown's gas, which is considered impossible. This leads right to the Nazi bell and 'Xerum X525'. (brown's gas is in an altered electron orbital state and co-joining that is not considered by mainstream science to be possible. Yet, when all known rules and math/physics is applied to the suggested model of this third rail of electron orbital joining, the math/physics and the brown's gas physical properties all agree to perfection. It very likely that it is the '3rd state' that the Nature article is speaking on. If this is the case... it is beyond suggestion, it is already done)

http://www.nature.com/news/stars-draw-atoms-closer-together-1.11045

Except that now we don't need the bell to make such things. Or any other form of matter or alloy. Just a certain trick....and a bit of understanding of the mechanism.

Making any element on the table of elements may indeed be possible, with the right seed material. This I give extremely high possibility, to the point that I say it is a done deal.

So the story of 'reptilians' connected to gold... gets a giant dunking - which it so richly deserves.


~~~~~~~~~~

Here. I'll double solar cell efficiency for you.

The discharge curve of a solar cell is not linear.

No load vs full load.

NL voltage on a 12V cell could be as high as 18V? Or more?

Now, when the load is connected, it drops at the speed of a discharge curve on a capacitor, to a minor degree.

But when the load is disconnected, it bounces back to the NL level...at FTL levels and speeds. Scalar.

Thus...use a pulse discharge method in the MHZ range on a solar cell, and the efficiency (power into load, over time) should be doubled.

Except you have a problem, with the solar cell at that point. Ever heard of a black body radiator? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation)

It is very likely the solar cell would them become a MHZ oriented scalar radiator, in the same way that a black body radiator exists (http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html?zenid=g7qq0mjufk61bhof94bavem3m2). (FTL dimensional/'dark matter' integrator) So one has the energetic solution they desire to some degree..but a twist..a problem. Something akin to an orgone generator of an unknown nature. Innocent seeming desire, fantastic seeming result......and an unknown level of potent results on and in a plane of awareness that we cannot directly perceive with our 5 senses.

Thus, I say that it is possible to double the efficiency of solar cells, easily so.

However, the mess it creates is far bigger.

So I scrapped it - hopefully it can be seen why.

Now, all we need is a few idiots, with some solar cells... and a signal generator/amplifier or two. More homework for me...

Thanks, Carmody! (I think.)

:~)

Dennis

[another bob]

Speaking of humans, a local man was just caught trying to start a fire less than a mile away from us. If he had not been spotted, it's possible we'd be refugees by now, given the ripe conditions for rapidly-spreading forest fires now:

http://www.paradisepost.com/ci_21346087/paradise-man-arrested-arson-charge?source=rss_viewed

[ulli]

Speaking of humans, a local man was just caught trying to start a fire less than a mile away from us. If he had not been spotted, it's possible we'd be refugees by now, given the ripe conditions for rapidly-spreading forest fires now:

http://www.paradisepost.com/ci_21346087/paradise-man-arrested-arson-charge?source=rss_viewed

Well, you can thank your lucky stars, bob.
But don't you think that with a name like "Paradise" your town could be asking for trouble?
All extremes have a tendency to flip-flop into the opposite.
Just think how many people there are these days who believe in hell but refuse to believe in paradise.

My local municipal capital in Costa Rica is called Paraiso, which is Spanish for Paradise,
and it took them only a few decades to turn it into hell.

[ulli]

Ok, I've got one more joke which I MUST unload,
even though it's totally off topic Here and Now.

http://static.neatorama.com/images/2009-09/bizarro-atheist-cafe.jpg

[Dennis Leahy]

I set my life up so it was a gauntlet with but one path that was viable, to the mind and body's ideas on reality and thinking. thus instead of simply trying..I combined that with making the doorway very very narrow and built in only one way.

Yes, that's the only way to go -- follow one thing through to the very end. The problem these days is that the aspirant is bombarded by all sorts of methods, schemes, teachers, and techniques, so that they cobble together a little of this and a little of that, and end up with indigestion, and more confused than when they started. At some point, if fortunate, they become disgusted with the whole "spiritual" search, and interestingly enough, that's when real progress can happen.

Strumming my pain with his fingers,
singing my life with his words,
killing me softly with his song,
killing me softly with his song,
telling my whole life with his words,
killing me softly with his song

dennis

[Jake]

Hello, Ulli, and all.. I got a new truck, new job, new place to lay my wee head!!! Things are looking up. I miss you all, just wanted to say that before I disappeared for a couple of months. Cheers to all.

I am off to create my reality... Be back soon enough... Jake.

[Dennis Leahy]

Hello, Ulli, and all.. I got a new truck, new job, new place to lay my wee head!!! Things are looking up. I miss you all, just wanted to say that before I disappeared for a couple of months. Cheers to all.

I am off to create my reality... Be back soon enough... Jake.
Lova ya, bro! Stay healthy and have an eventful journey.

Until next time...

Dennis

[ulli]

~~~~~~~~~~
More homework for me...

Thanks, Carmody! (I think.)

:~)

Dennis

Why not keep it simple, Dennis?
The mystery machine that makes complex energy packets from zero is a woman.
Any woman.
She is a man-maker.
Plus she can replicate herself and make more man-makers.

[RunningDeer]

Hello, Ulli, and all.. I got a new truck, new job, new place to lay my wee head!!! Things are looking up. I miss you all, just wanted to say that before I disappeared for a couple of months. Cheers to all.

I am off to create my reality... Be back soon enough... Jake.


Have a blast creating your reality, Jake! Cool...
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Thank_You/4.jpg

[ulli]

Hello, Ulli, and all.. I got a new truck, new job, new place to lay my wee head!!! Things are looking up. I miss you all, just wanted to say that before I disappeared for a couple of months. Cheers to all.

I am off to create my reality... Be back soon enough... Jake.

Knowing you you will never leave, hehe....
Also, don't forget you have friends here who can assist you.
Lot's of OBE travelers in the Village Inn....

[another bob]

Well, you can thank your lucky stars, bob.

Indeed, I was just Thanking the kind folks who watch over us, Sister! We've been blessed more times than I can count. Another recent example: Mazie had three teeth removed last week, and instead of that turning into another trip to the ER, she woke up almost totally pain-free the next morning! If you knew how things typically go when it comes to medical interventions like the dental surgery, you'd appreciate the miraculous aspect of her current experience. I do know that there was an "intervention" this time, and so my continued gratitude for that!



But don't you think that with a name like "Paradise" your town could be asking for trouble?

In this realm, we don't need to ask for it, it's a standard clause in the contract! LOL!

[Carmody]

Why not keep it simple, Dennis?
The mystery machine that makes complex energy packets from zero is a woman.
Any woman.
She is a man-maker.
Plus she can replicate herself and make more man-makers.

Yes, when in my teens, age 16 (while drunk and high), I was having a conversation with my friend's sister, who was pregnant. I said something like, "why do you get to create life, to bring life into the world..when I get to shape things by tearing down, by burning, slashing, destroying to shape and make? Males cannot create new, in this ideal sense and reality that you get to... they move into destruction as a form of creation. And I don't like it, or want that path."

[another bob]

Hello, Ulli, and all.. I got a new truck, new job, new place to lay my wee head!!! Things are looking up. I miss you all, just wanted to say that before I disappeared for a couple of months. Cheers to all.

I am off to create my reality... Be back soon enough... Jake.


Have a blast creating your reality, Jake! Cool...
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Thank_You/4.jpg


http://i50.tinypic.com/vh3nzb.jpg

[ulli]

Why not keep it simple, Dennis?
The mystery machine that makes complex energy packets from zero is a woman.
Any woman.
She is a man-maker.
Plus she can replicate herself and make more man-makers.

Yes, when in my teens, age 16 (while drunk and high), I was having a conversation with my friend's sister, who was pregnant. I said something like, "why do you get to create life, to bring life into the world..when I get to shape things by tearing down, by burning, slashing, destroying to shape and make? Males cannot create new, in this ideal sense and reality that you get to... they move into destruction as a form of creation. And I don't like it, or want that path."

When they fall in love they can discover their true potential, which is to feather the nest.
Help pay for this. Without women they'd still be in the caves.

http://media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com/upload/85005511686110219_VUzkbAkW_f.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Mooji speaks for 11 seconds in a span of 1:20. The silence is as powerful the as his words. (perhaps, even more so for some)

"Everyone is ... "



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdc5Ur38IV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdc5Ur38IV8

[Dennis Leahy]

Right here, right now... sipping the first bottle from the first batch of kombucha I have made. "To your health!" :cheers:

Dennis

[Jenci]

Mooji speaks for 11 seconds in a span of 1:20. The silence is as powerful the as his words. (perhaps, even more so for some)

"Everyone is ... "




I'm always moved when I watch teachers speak from the silence, rather than the mind. I see their words arise spontaneously from that place. To me, it has a different movement and flavour to words spoken from the mind.


reminds me of ......."It's the silence between the notes which makes the music"



Jeanette

[another bob]

Without women they'd still be in the caves.


It takes two to tango (more or less) . . . .

http://i50.tinypic.com/6dxp39.jpg


Speaking about paying for crap (er, household acoutrements), there was an unusually large number of people standing in lines at the local K-mart today. I suspect the subliminal herd mind-control transmissions have been amped up recently . . .

I go there as a cultural anthropologist, while Mazie finds stuff for me to pay for, so that I don't have the burden of an excess bank balance when the grid goes down...

:yo:

[ulli]

Without women they'd still be in the caves.


It takes two to tango (more or less) . . . .

http://i50.tinypic.com/6dxp39.jpg


Speaking about paying for crap (er, household acoutrements), there was an unusually large number of people standing in lines at the local K-mart today. I suspect the subliminal herd mind-control transmissions have been amped up recently . . .

I go there as a cultural anthropologist, while Mazie finds stuff for me to pay for, so that I don't have the burden of an excess bank balance when the grid goes down...

:yo:

Ask Mazie if she wants assistance. Finding the right store, I mean.
Although according to the website www.peopleofwalmart.com Wal-mart is a far better option for your cultural anthropology pursuits.
Happy her dentist did a good job, too, and she is healing well.

[another bob]

Ask Mazie if she wants assistance. Finding the right store, I mean.

Well, I got her a lap top recently, and she discovered Amazon Prime (which accounts for the mysterious accumulations on my credit card, and the people showing up at our door-step regularly bearing . . .ummm. . .gifts.



Happy her dentist did a good job, too, and she is healing well.

Thanks, she's now back to making popsicles. Recently, she's been mixing yogurt with the fruit and then freezing them. My favorite is Blueberry. We had to buy a spare freezer, so she could use the refrigerator's freezer to house all her variations.


http://i45.tinypic.com/14vln3n.jpg



http://i46.tinypic.com/mvtdzo.jpg

[Eram]

Right here, right now... sipping the first bottle from the first batch of kombucha I have made. "To your health!" :cheers:

Dennis

That is so cool Dennis. :cheers: indeed!

It is one of my dreams to make kombucha myself one time.

[PurpleLama]

General comments:

I freakin love me some Kombucha.

And

What's so bad about living in caves?

[another bob]

What's so bad about living in caves?

I read that Webster's Dictionary recently added "man cave" to its selections, so I looked up the term, and found this:

"A man cave, sometimes a mantuary[1] or manspace,[2] is a male sanctuary,[3] such as a specially equipped garage,[4] spare bedroom,[3] media room,[5] den,[6] or basement.[6][7] It is not a cave but rather a metaphor describing a room inside the house, such as the basement or garage or attic or office, or outside the house such as a wood shed or tool room, where "guys can do as they please" without fear of upsetting any female sensibility about house decor or design.[8] Paula Aymer of Tufts University calls it the "last bastion of masculinity".[8]

While a wife may have substantial authority over a whole house in terms of design and decoration, she generally has no say about what gets "mounted on the walls" of a man's personal space.[8] Since it may be accepted that a woman has input on the decoration of the rest of the house, a man cave or man space is in some sense a reaction to feminine domestic power.[8]

Man caves have multiple purposes: they're a place to be alone, to be away from women and from female sensibilities, to indulge in hobbies, and to hang out with male friends and/or lesbians, who may also maintain spaces similar to a man cave. It is, loosely, a male-only space to retreat to,[9] Man Caves,[10] watch sports matches,[11] or play video games.[6] According to psychiatrist and author Scott Haltzman, it is important for a man to have a place to call his own, referring to a male area to which to retreat. Some psychologists claim that a man cave can provide refuge from stressful surroundings and be beneficial to marriage.[1] Rules are relaxed; it is a place where other people's sensibilities about standards of cleanliness are not necessarily observed; as one man said, "You spill a beer there or leave a hamburger overnight, who cares?"[2]

To read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_cave

[eaglespirit]

OK Here and Nowers...asking for suggestions, advice, personal experience please.

My oldest Daughter has Hashimoto's Disease (hypothyroidism) and it is coming on strong with Her lately...in this disease the immune system attacks/degenerates the thyroid.

We will be getting some MMS and I have taken note of Onawah's "aloe vera" gel drink in prior post, thank you.

Thank You beforehand to anyone that is familiar with this and has knowledge to offer : )

I am looking at natural remedies online also.

While we're on the subject of sun gazing...

This is an account that I ran into while searching info about it.


[... When I first began Sun Gazing in 2005, I lived on the beach in San Diego, and got up to 25 minutes - I felt the best physically and mentally in years, and had phenomenal physical strength (I was 59 yo). I moved to Colorado, and encountered trees and snow, so I ended my gazing at 30 minutes. My physical and mental health totally deteriorated in Colorado! Artificial light did not "do it" for me! There I was finally diagnosed with lifelong, mis-diagnosed Celiac Disease that has destroyed my ability to absorb B vitamins and lipids from my foods.

6 years later, I have moved to Arizona - the land of the sun - and have started up Sun Gazing again. I had to stay on 5 SECONDS for an entire week until I could add another 5 SECONDS per day! Then I began to add the normal 10 seconds/day, and I am up to 2 minutes of gazing -NOT STARING - into the new sun each morning.

I cannot begin to tell you how "whole" I now feel! My endocrine system is coming back into balance, even at this beginning stage! I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, which is primarily a disorder of the ADRENAL glands, which severely unbalances the thyroid and sex hormones, the endocrine triad. When it is cloudy, I go outside and practice my gazing, but I do not add more time after - I only add time after finishing the SUN gazing, and ONLY if I feel that I can move on to more time! HRM and others who successfully practice REAL Sun Gazing write and tell, over and over, that it is up to the individual to feel comfortable with this practice, to slowly add 5-10 seconds per day, and to STOP if it does not feel right; that it is a SPIRITUAL practice that will OPEN up a person to using the other parts of their brain that lie dormant; that it is about SLOWLY releasing the emotional content stored within us, cleansing, revitalizing with the energy of the sun, and becoming a whole new person. It is not a race, not a fad, not something to take on as a whim. ...]

source (http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/sun_gazing.html)

I have some problems with the adrenal glands, or so it seems and I'm going to try sun gazing too.
I have a good feeling about it.

Thank You on that Wakytweaky...I have never pushed or pulled Tara to Sungaze Meditate...She is fully aware of my path in a very Personal Way...She gets out in Nature regularly and the Sun too...but She does not meditate with it but will probably spend some time with me while I do it before I leave this area...we shall see : )
Thank You again for this post and sharing : )

[eaglespirit]

Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

~Albert Einstein


Without wisdom, that is . . .

Saw a good line earlier

Wisdom without action is just as bad as action without wisdom.

View & Conduct

“There were two aspects for practitioners. The first is to develop a spacious mind or view - limitless, open, free, and released. Secondly, one's physical actions with body, speech and mind must be perfect - ethical down to the minuetest detail. In the beginning, the latter is very important and then as one's view gradually develops, conduct takes care of itself automatically without effort, just by merely having the profound view. Conduct is the ideal of loving kindness and compassion towards all beings equally. Without conduct, the highest view can be harmful because people think they have the view and that everything will be alright without paying attention to conduct. But they are only thinking that; it is not a true realization, so their reasoning is faulty. Patrul Rinpoche said that if someone says to you that they have the view but they don't show loving kindness - you should stuff their mouths with the sh*t of one hundred towns. So we don't emphasize only the view and neglect behavior; but also the opposite is incorrect - not trying to understand the view but examining conduct. If you practice only virtuous conduct for hundreds of aeons, enlightenment is never reached. We also need the wisdom of the view - pure buddha mind view. If you only practice only from the outer point of view - you are like a chicken -- you are a bird, but you can't fly; but if you practice conduct and view, you are like a soaring garuda and everything unfolds very quickly in a single lifetime.”

~Tharchin Rinpoche


“To lose the conduct in the view means that the view, which is emptiness, is superimposed upon all one's actions. One might say "Good is empty, evil is also empty, everything is emptiness, so what does it matter." Then one becomes uncaring & frivolous & doesn't discriminate between help & harm, good & evil. That is losing the conduct in the view. Please be careful to avoid this mistake!

The other extreme is to lose the view in the conduct, to only think in terms of good & evil, what is virtuous & unvirtuous. It is through the view that one is liberated. If you lose the view in the conduct, you will never have the opportunity to be free.

Padmasambhava said: "Though the view should be as vast as the sky, keep your conduct as fine as barley flour." Don't confuse one with the other. When training in the view, you can be as unbiased, as impartial, as vast, immense, & unlimited as the sky. Your behaviour, on the other hand, should be as careful as possible in discriminating what is beneficial or harmful, what is good or evil. One can combine the view & conduct, but don't mix them or lose one in the other. That is very important.

'View like the sky' means that nothing is held onto in any way whatsoever. You are not stuck anywhere at all. In other words, there is no discrimination as to what to accept & what to reject; no line is drawn separating one thing from another. 'Conduct as fine as barley flour' means that there is good & evil, & one needs to differentiate between the two. Give up negative deeds; practice the Dharma. In your behaviour, in your conduct, it is necessary to accept & reject."

~The View & the Conduct
"As It Is: Vol. II" by Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche

Thanks Another Bob,

Limitless Purity : )

[PurpleLama]

I am grandly fortunate, we have a man/woman cave. No division anywhere, it's the whole house.

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Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.

~Albert Einstein


Without wisdom, that is . . .

Saw a good line earlier

Wisdom without action is just as bad as action without wisdom.

View & Conduct

“There were two aspects for practitioners. The first is to develop a spacious mind or view - limitless, open, free, and released. Secondly, one's physical actions with body, speech and mind must be perfect - ethical down to the minuetest detail. In the beginning, the latter is very important and then as one's view gradually develops, conduct takes care of itself automatically without effort, just by merely having the profound view. Conduct is the ideal of loving kindness and compassion towards all beings equally. Without conduct, the highest view can be harmful because people think they have the view and that everything will be alright without paying attention to conduct. But they are only thinking that; it is not a true realization, so their reasoning is faulty. Patrul Rinpoche said that if someone says to you that they have the view but they don't show loving kindness - you should stuff their mouths with the sh*t of one hundred towns. So we don't emphasize only the view and neglect behavior; but also the opposite is incorrect - not trying to understand the view but examining conduct. If you practice only virtuous conduct for hundreds of aeons, enlightenment is never reached. We also need the wisdom of the view - pure buddha mind view. If you only practice only from the outer point of view - you are like a chicken -- you are a bird, but you can't fly; but if you practice conduct and view, you are like a soaring garuda and everything unfolds very quickly in a single lifetime.”

~Tharchin Rinpoche


“To lose the conduct in the view means that the view, which is emptiness, is superimposed upon all one's actions. One might say "Good is empty, evil is also empty, everything is emptiness, so what does it matter." Then one becomes uncaring & frivolous & doesn't discriminate between help & harm, good & evil. That is losing the conduct in the view. Please be careful to avoid this mistake!

The other extreme is to lose the view in the conduct, to only think in terms of good & evil, what is virtuous & unvirtuous. It is through the view that one is liberated. If you lose the view in the conduct, you will never have the opportunity to be free.

Padmasambhava said: "Though the view should be as vast as the sky, keep your conduct as fine as barley flour." Don't confuse one with the other. When training in the view, you can be as unbiased, as impartial, as vast, immense, & unlimited as the sky. Your behaviour, on the other hand, should be as careful as possible in discriminating what is beneficial or harmful, what is good or evil. One can combine the view & conduct, but don't mix them or lose one in the other. That is very important.

'View like the sky' means that nothing is held onto in any way whatsoever. You are not stuck anywhere at all. In other words, there is no discrimination as to what to accept & what to reject; no line is drawn separating one thing from another. 'Conduct as fine as barley flour' means that there is good & evil, & one needs to differentiate between the two. Give up negative deeds; practice the Dharma. In your behaviour, in your conduct, it is necessary to accept & reject."

~The View & the Conduct
"As It Is: Vol. II" by Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche

Thanks Another Bob,

Limitless Purity : )

Yep. :ufo:

[ulli]

This one is for you PurpleLama
(Don't tell the mods about the bad language part)
http://i.imgur.com/podQ4.jpg

[ulli]

...and this one is really really awesome:

(and so Avalonian)

http://i.imgur.com/lH9AF.jpg

[Calz]

(Don't tell the mods about the bad language part)




http://www.presentermedia.com/files/animsp/00005000/5581/paranoid_spy_anim_md_wm.gif

[ulli]

(Don't tell the mods about the bad language part)




http://www.presentermedia.com/files/animsp/00005000/5581/paranoid_spy_anim_md_wm.gif



Ooooooh...I LOVE masked strangers who can be discreet.
And he even has a DOGGIE!!!!

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgqOcuKy4w0VnjBtdp40J-YbRBJSjulIB9fSexr6u9alTvGD2h

[1inMany]

Hi all,

Em and I went to the city one last time yesterday, came back today. Learned my lesson last time with that long stay. I don't think I'll be going back for awhile, it is too chaotic. Finally found Em a pair of boots, and they are true shtkickers, yep. They are real by-god Texas boots. Man, am I glad that is done. Used to love retail therapy, now I simply loathe it.

If we had not had an appointment to get her hair cut, we would not have gone. Devin went out to play with his friends at 7 or 8am, and wasn't back by 2pm. He has never done that before. Scared us to death. He did not come back before we left. The whole time we were gone, we were worried sick. You could tell it in everyone's faces... We were all thinking the same thing...about the coyotes, or water mocassins...and Devin with only a couple of back teeth...all gums he his.

Came back today, and he was in the yard. Just fine. No injuries. I just about flipped, though, because he and MamaDog brought home another freaking dog! What is going on??? This new dog is HUGE. He has the strangest eyes. They are golden brown with a blue outer ring, and one is half covered with white. I wonder if he is partly blind, or if he has an eye issue. He is sweet enough, eegads, flinches when we pet him so he has probably been shoo-ed away quite a bit. And these dogs...grrrr...would not eat out of the bowls. We had to hand feed them. Okay, enough!!! Heavens to Betsy, how many dogs are we going to end up with? If they would get into the car, I might take them to the shelter since it is a no-kill shelter. But they are not even close to being trained, trust me here. They would probably eat the inside of the car.

It's dark outside, and warm. Sitting by the fan on the porch, and it is peaceful. Taking a deep breath.....and.....exhaling....

Much Love,

[1inMany]

Why can't these dogs come with really cool names like Ishtar and Isis and White Tail? We have Devin, Mama, and Mr. Cuddlepants.

*sigh*

[Calz]

Why can't these dogs come with really cool names like Ishtar and Isis and White Tail? We have Devin, Mama, and Mr. Cuddlepants.

*sigh*

I dunno ... Mr. Cuddlepants kinda works for me ...


http://knksfamilyboxers.com/images/1122493601_boxer_dog_standing_outside_doggie_door_lg_nwm_1_.gif

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Lately, I have begun a greater understanding of astrology, among other various topics, via Joseph Farrell during his interviews on the Byte Show with GeorgeAnne Hughes. This interview is form 2008, I gather. No commercials, just dialogue. Superb material that I recommend for everyone. I know that many of you, Ulli and Carmody, et al, in particular, have this knowledge under the belt already. However, this is an area at which I am a novice. From what I have listened to, it jives right long with the Law Of One verbiage on astrology. Cool stuff!

He goes in to detail about astrology in several episodes but the one I just listened to is in this episode starting around the 36 minute mark. E2bH9FBb8fw

There are 14 episodes in the series and I highly recommend this for everyone. J. Farrell"s research resonates with me , backed by research and even his speculation blows my mind. Check the entire series out.

[RunningDeer]

how many dogs are we going to end up with?

Much Love,

Pretty soon you'll have enough for free transportation if you ever relocate to Alaska. And they'll make warm, cuddly blankets up there, too. http://forums.newtorrents.info/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif

[Dennis Leahy]

Right here, right now... sipping the first bottle from the first batch of kombucha I have made. "To your health!" :cheers:

Dennis

That is so cool Dennis. :cheers: indeed!

It is one of my dreams to make kombucha myself one time.


...I freakin love me some Kombucha.

I was not difficult to make (though it did take more than 2 weeks to ferment), but it had a surprise side benefit:

It relaxed my concerns/"fears" about food poisoning from food left out of refrigeration.

I have never really had a problem eating fresh produce right out of the garden, without washing it. Hey, what's a little bug footprints, bug saliva and bug poop gonna hurt, right? But, probably from growing up in a medical household, I have always been meticulous and picky about food that sat around for too long, unrefrigerated. I don't think I've ever really stopped to examine that this is leftover baggage from my childhood, but now I'm sure it is. Anything in the gray zone of "questionable" immediately was relegated to the compost pile.

To ferment kombucha, a cheesecloth is draped over a gallon jar (or other suitable ceramic or glass crock or vessel) and the cheesecloth is secured with a rubber band. Day after day, the blend of sweet tea, bacteria, and yeast sits and the living components consume the sugar... and breathe. Normally, after the first day, and certainly the second day, I would never have eaten any food left open to the air. On about day 3 or 4, I started to really examine this old, learned behavior.

I bought a book, The Art of Fermentation (http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Fermentation-Exploration-Essential/dp/160358286X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345425503&sr=8-1&keywords=the+art+of+fermentation), after examining the book at a friend's house. This was an important part of the process for me, because I had never fermented anything. Beer and wine fermentation is a relatively closed process in comparison, and I have never liked sauerkraut, so I stayed away from the mysterious crocks a few friends had in their kitchens. I asked no questions, and remained ignorant.

After a week, once the film floating on top of the liquid started to appear to be integrating into either an alien life form, a small Frisbee, or a SCOBY (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCOBY) (Symbiotic Colony of Bacteria and Yeast), I relaxed a bit, seeing that the process was progressing just as had been described to me. A few days later, I sneaked a straw around the SCOBY, plugged the end of the straw with a fingertip, and drew out a few milliliters of the amber liquid. I sipped the fermented potion... ...and...did...not...immediately...die. I took this as a good sign.

Nor did I die in the ensuing hours. Hours became days, and at approximately the two week mark - that's 14 days of a liquid being in contact with air, 14 days of watching a film form and turn into a rubbery life-raft in the jar - I plunged the straw in, extracted liquid, and gulped it with no trepidation, certain that this would not be my "last call", my final quench. It tasted like... kombucha!

The book is a feast of information, not just a recipe book or even a how-to guide (this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAX9HngwN8) video was a nice how-to-guide) as much as it is an introduction to the history and concepts behind the various fermentation processes. It helped me to have a mindset breakthrough. Might just come in handy if I ever have to do and 'dumpster-diving' - that's where the fermented foods are, because others haven't caught-on yet.

:~)

Dennis

[PurpleLama]

The kombucha I love comes in a bottle, the brand name Synergy, and the flavor is called Trilogy, and it makes my toes curl just thinking about it.

It sounds like 1inmany is starting to collect dogs like I collect cats.

I really love that "More genies!"

[Dennis Leahy]

The kombucha I love comes in a bottle, the brand name Synergy, and the flavor is called Trilogy, and it makes my toes curl just thinking about it.The kombucha I love comes in a bottle ($3.59), the brand name Synergy, and the flavor is called Gingerberry (a tiny bit of ginger juice and a shot of blueberry juice in the kombucha), and it shoots 10,000 volts of lightning up my spine just thinking about it.

I'll have to try Trilogy!
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/babyfootx.gif

I actually juiced some fresh, organic ginger and got some blueberry juice and tried to duplicate this favored elixir on my first try. Mine had a teeny bit too much ginger, a teeny bit too much blueberry juice, and less carbonation. I hope to get closer next time, but I'm not terribly far off. It cost me about $0.85 to $0.90 a bottle to make (mostly because pure blueberry juice is so expensive.) I wanted to get the price down to the range where I can drink a bottle a day.

=====================

Hey astrologers:
I have not had my chart done for 40 years. I no longer have it, and besides, that's a long time ago, not sure how much changes as you have charts done again, later. Who is someone that you'd recommend?

Dennis

[meeradas]

The trick is to not get absorbed in thinking that the flailing limbs are somehow you.

Oh yeah...

In fact, that seems to be the sole issue.

[Calz]

http://img.webme.com/pic/p/pamela-siddell/nat96.gif

http://images.wookmark.com/20220_water-flame-animated-image.gif

http://www.the-universal-link.com/scenery-animated.gif

[Hermite]

Hey, Dennis. Here is an astrologer I really like: http://www.starself.com/

If you just want your chart drawn up, here is a very good free one: http://www.alabe.com/freechart/

Cheers!

[astrid]

Been on the edge of something for a couple of weeks now,
and i keep pulling back when i get to that free falling space.
So working on building the courage to surrender completely.

Also interesting timing, is the return of my very first mentor/ teacher from
nearly a decade ago, totally out of the blue. He is one of those appears and disappears types.
He is a very complex character and we had and even more complex relationship, so i have mixed
feelings of his return, but still, me being me, I'm so deliciously curious. I never had known his true
identity either, which knowing all that i have learned, I'm finding myself much less trusting.

Very interesting times..

[Marianne]

Love and blessings to you, Astrid, as you find courage.

Thanks Playdo, for the Joseph Farrell video. I'm interested in that as well.

I'm hoping for a clear morning, so I can begin sun gazing.

Ulli, I adore this photo. Think it's my new wallpaper.

http://i.imgur.com/lH9AF.jpg

[Swan]

I'm always moved when I watch teachers speak from the silence, rather than the mind. I see their words arise spontaneously from that place. To me, it has a different movement and flavour to words spoken from the mind.


reminds me of ......."It's the silence between the notes which makes the music"



Jeanette

Silence has been very much on my mind.

I find it very difficult to communicate truthfully with words.

I used to work as a radio journalist, freelance, and loved the silences between the words spoken. The silence held the story.

I loved listening to peoples silences.

I saw this on TV the other day. This is how I used to feel. I miss this form of communication.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKw7LuEqUVs

[PurpleLama]

At the end of my dreams, which I've just awoken from, ulli was taking lotusblossom and my self through some hilly residential streets in this tiny car, to her house. A song began playing on the radio, and she began singing along, and then my wife sings the next part, all the while I'm listening and watching the scenery pass by outside. As we approach her house and the song ends, ulli speaks to the meaning and synchronicity that this song holds for her, and I say to her, it is very meaningful to me as well, but in a different way, which is synchronicity itself, and she looks at me and says "oh, really?" and then turns up the little hill into her driveway, and I wake up.

I hadn't seen this photo posted recently, but yesterday I was going through all the pics I have saved, and I picked this very image to be my new wall paper, in fact. Speaking of synchronicity.
Love and blessings to you, Astrid, as you find courage.

Thanks Playdo, for the Joseph Farrell video. I'm interested in that as well.

I'm hoping for a clear morning, so I can begin sun gazing.

Ulli, I adore this photo. Think it's my new wallpaper.

http://i.imgur.com/lH9AF.jpg

[ulli]

At the end of my dreams, which I've just awoken from, ulli was taking lotusblossom and my self through some hilly residential streets in this tiny car, to her house. A song began playing on the radio, and she began singing along, and then my wife sings the next part, all the while I'm listening and watching the scenery pass by outside. As we approach her house and the song ends, ulli speaks to the meaning and synchronicity that this song holds for her, and I say to her, it is very meaningful to me as well, but in a different way, which is synchronicity itself, and she looks at me and says "oh, really?" and then turns up the little hill into her driveway, and I wake up.

I hadn't seen this photo posted recently, but yesterday I was going through all the pics I have saved, and I picked this very image to be my new wall paper, in fact. Speaking of synchronicity.

Oh, really???????

(OMG I just got the sign I prayed for last night....at this very moment....the word popped up right here on this iPad as a typo....
I was hitting the space bar and one letter above it, then the spell checker somehow did the rest.
And right there was the name of the spirit guide I was looking for.....I was stunned...wow!!!!!!!)

[PurpleLama]

Falling Synchronicity Area

Hard Hats Must Be Worn At All Times

[ulli]

The word that appeared instead of the three dots that is my custom to use was
bab

Easy to do if you hit the space bar and the letter b by accident. However to me the meaning became clear in one instant.
last night I had asked spirit to give me a sign as to who my personal spirit guide might be. I was half expecting the answer to be my mother ( she had passed away in 2006, but her presence has been noted on various occasions)
I was not expecting any of the names associated with the Baha'is as the members consider me a dissident....
in a similar vein as Bill Ryan is considered a dissident by the Church of Scientology. I have not been to a single Bahai event since 2001. I must say, I had forgotten all about the Bab, who was only the herald, having announced the advent of Baha'u'llah.
The Bab marked the greatest turning point in my life when I read a book titled Thief in the Night which was written by a TV producer and dealt with his own journey of discovering the Bab. Here is what was going on in the nineteenth century, when he appeared in Persia:

"The boldness of the Báb’s proclamation--which imparted a vision of an entirely new society--stirred intense fear within religious and secular establishments.

Consequently, persecution of the Bábís quickly developed and thousands of the Báb’s followers were put to death in a horrific series of massacres.

A number of Western observers testified to the extraordinary moral courage evinced by the Bábís in the face of this onslaught. European intellectuals such as Ernest Renan, Leo Tolstoy, Sarah Bernhardt and the Comte de Gobineau were deeply affected by this spiritual drama that had unfolded in what was regarded as a darkened land.

The nobility of the Báb’s life and teachings and the heroism of His followers became a frequent topic of conversation in the salons of Europe.

The story of Táhirih, the great poet and Bábí heroine, who declared to her persecutors,

“You can kill me as soon as you like, but you cannot stop the emancipation of women,”

traveled as far and as quickly as the story of the Báb Himself

[1inMany]

Oh, Village...I love you so.

Such a wonderful gathering, this.

Really big mental head slap this morning. I am so oblivious...I am the Queen of Oblivion. Yep. Of course we have a lot of dogs...and of course they materialize out of thin air - or come from far, far away...Mama is a girl. She is a drop off or a stray or whatever she is, so she has not had vet visits...thus, no shots, no SPAYING...And the gray dog across the street is a boy dog...and a drop off or stray...and this HUGE dog that showed up last night - Mr. Cuddlepants - is a boy dog...and a drop off or a stray...I cannot BELIEVE how long it took me to get the hint.

*sigh*

I believe puppies will be forthcoming.

:/

Ulli, we need a barn full of dogfood, please...and I'm starting research on names (lol), not that Em would let me use any cool names, but hey it's worth a shot...

Love,

p.s. Dennis, Ulli, PL, Calz, and WCBD thanks for the inner chuckles...

p.s. p.s. Do I really not have enough to do?

[PurpleLama]

FWIW, I think, ulli, you may be guide you are looking for, in that Spirit may intend for you to be the Messenger for this time. Take that as you will, please do not fear the implication. Something tells me that the insights that led to you being dissident in your church or whatever may indeed be led by the one spirit. The internet is a marvelous device for the dissemenation of knowledge, and for anonymity.

[ulli]

Oh, Village...I love you so.

Such a wonderful gathering, this.

Really big mental head slap this morning. I am so oblivious...I am the Queen of Oblivion. Yep. Of course we have a lot of dogs...and of course they materialize out of thin air - or come from far, far away...Mama is a girl. She is a drop off or a stray or whatever she is, so she has not had vet visits...thus, no shots, no SPAYING...And the gray dog across the street is a boy dog...and a drop off or stray...and this HUGE dog that showed up last night - Mr. Cuddlepants - is a boy dog...and a drop off or a stray...I cannot BELIEVE how long it took me to get the hint.

*sigh*

I believe puppies will be forthcoming.

:/

Ulli, we need a barn full of dogfood, please...and I'm starting research on names (lol), not that Em would let me use any cool names, but hey it's worth a shot...

Love,

p.s. Dennis, Ulli, PL, Calz, and WCBD thanks for the inner chuckles...

p.s. p.s. Do I really not have enough to do?

Sorry if this is not enough, but it's a start...
I'll get that barn fully stocked in no time...


http://www.perkinspetandcountrystore.co.uk/uploads/images/dog%20food.JPG

[ulli]

Listening to Joseph P. Farrell's Interview about astrology, which was posted by Astrid last night.
Very interesting.
He makes a decent attempt at explaining how astrological patterns are made by templates...
as Carmody has also insinuated on various occasions.

Hey, look how the words ATTEMPT and TEMPLATE relate to each other.

[benevolentcrow]

There was a buzz in the village this weekend, hard to keep up. Lots of interesting post from what I feel old friends. Have a wonderful week villagers.

[ulli]

FWIW, I think, ulli, you may be guide you are looking for, in that Spirit may intend for you to be the Messenger for this time. Take that as you will, please do not fear the implication. Something tells me that the insights that led to you being dissident in your church or whatever may indeed be led by the one spirit. The internet is a marvelous device for the dissemenation of knowledge, and for anonymity.

I have no one with whom I can discuss my doubts, although I was on several forums for Bahai dissidents.
The problem there was that most of those members were dissidents for different reasons. Mostly because they were homosexuals and there were endless arguments about
how to interpret Bahaullahs position on homosexuality. In his writings he had only referred to the enslavement of boys for sexual reasons...
which he condemned, saying, My pen comes to a screeching halt at the mere thought.....or words to that effect....

I came from the angle that both the Bab and Bahaullah were channels who had used the automatic writing method.
On those forums there was no one there who agreed with me or had ever studied psychic phenomena like I had.
So the only Bahai I can relate to in some meaningful way today is Dr. Steven Greer.
But he never tries to reconcile Bahai prophecy with todays political events. He just follows his Disclosure path.

My path is quite different; it has to do with the formation of independent communities. Which is what I am attempting to do here.
By independent I mean independent from all wordily influences.
Only our inner spirit, from the inside out, guiding us, and that means watching out that this is not the same spirits that guide the elite.
And therein lies the real clincher...

[PurpleLama]

I did not say before, ulli, the song you were singing was a beautiful, holy scripture, in another language, but in the dream I understood every word, and the feeling of the song was of Holy Presence, Reverence and Love. I would use the analogy of the Bride of Christ, one who is betrothed to Creator, very much a song of feminine love in relation to God, hence your mild surprise an how I, too, found the song to be so profoundly meaningful, such a blessing to me being connected to and included in the very context of the verse. Lb and I very much have the alchemical wedding, and with her singing between us, she was like a living conduit of that Holy Spirit going whoosh whoosh back and forth within the vehicle, and yes, it was very cramped in that front seat.

[Carmody]

The trick is to not get absorbed in thinking that the flailing limbs are somehow you.

Oh yeah...

In fact, that seems to be the sole issue.

This is why I pointedly pushed myself into it. To get me 'over myself'.

Not recommended unless one is going into it in a fully knowing type state as the body will fight back with all it's got. Up to and including any kind of imaginary or fabricated missive that your conscious mind could ever come up with and a guarantee of the 'toppers' (Peak moments and situations) being beyond conscious knowing..as this is coming from the place the conscious mind launches itself from. (as an in/out formative filter/mechanism)

[RunningDeer]

I’ve listened to the vid twice now since yesterday, probably will another time. Lots of covered. Lisa Harrison has just as much to offer as her guest Kelly La Sha. Kelly offers an ebook called, “Liquid Mirror,” at IPad for $1.99. Much of what is covered is review, but sometimes with a bit of a twist. So, it’s worth a listen. I had to work hard at getting past the few minutes in the beginning about abduction when she was young. I’m glad I didn’t click off.

One helpful example was a shift in perspective about the Druvalo, the MerkaBa and ascension. I’ve read three of his books and then it all faded to unimportant status. Another example is how on the forum some people are drawn to threads and express ideas and teachings, i.e, I AM vs. ET's. Don't let these two example dissuade you from having a listen. There's lots more.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T6WyCCGcls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T6WyCCGcls

[PurpleLama]

The dream prior to that, I was in this space age garage, examining vehicles to purchase, and I examined in detail this one particular, solid white and incredibly sleek "car" that I informed the attendants I intended to procure, and was told that it was not quite complete, but in just a few hours would be ready. They were in the process of removing the black tires and replacing them with these triangular tread like things that had white belts wound around three smaller wheels.

Before that I had in another dream the experience of blowing my nose, which was duplicated down to the tiniest detal about forty five minutes after I woke up, this morning.

So, I figure, my new "car" should be ready any ole time, now.

[ulli]

I did not say before, ulli, the song you were singing was a beautiful, holy scripture, in another language, but in the dream I understood every word, and the feeling of the song was of Holy Presence, Reverence and Love. I would use the analogy of the Bride of Christ, one who is betrothed to Creator, very much a song of feminine love in relation to God, hence your mild surprise an how I, too, found the song to be so profoundly meaningful, such a blessing to me being connected to and included in the very context of the verse. Lb and I very much have the alchemical wedding, and with her singing between us, she was like a living conduit of that Holy Spirit going whoosh whoosh back and forth within the vehicle, and yes, it was very cramped in that front seat.

Interesting. I have experienced that sublime energy many times. I always teared up at Bahai meetings, although as time went by it was from the disappointment in the people themselves, that they could take something so sublime and then corrupt it.

The essence of the Bahai is called Progressive Revelation...
it is taken as a given that the seeker had already done his yoga classes (Hinduism),
done his consciousness raising and ego-overcoming, (Buddhism)
done his lessons in self-sacrifice for the greater body, (Christianity),
done his collective herd religion (like Islam which took him from fierce Bedouin desert nomad to Rumi and Sufism)
and now the final step is the small community, freed from blood relationships, but even crossing all racial barriers.
and accepting all of humanity into the home for cookies.
Small intimate communities, like the early Christians, where the love is so powerful that at the end no one even remembers which coat was theirs,
or which pair of shoes...when it is time to leave the place.
And with such an attitude the synchronicities multiply to the point that they can no longer be computed...
that is the desired goal for humanity. To be as one soul....united in love for Source...

[1inMany]

Sitting here feeling unsettled. I have now put a patch on a broken relationship. I do not particularly want a relationship with this person, but neither do I want anything broken around me. My little sister's face has been popping into my head for a couple of weeks. What she did, the way she behaved, her manipulative nature...these things still hurt sometimes. But the healing is happening naturally, uncomfortable as all healing is. I love her, but I do not like her. I do not want to be her friend, we do not have anything in common. I reached out though, and told her that regardless of any past situations/events, I love her. And that although I was angry for a long time, I realized (at some point) that things happen for a reason. And what she did caused a lot of good things to happen. I guess this was important to say, or important for her to hear. I haven't heard back from her, and I know I will, but familial relationships are complicated. I have 3 older brothers, 2 sisters...and then 4 more from my Dad's later marriage. I have no intention of going to each one and starting up a conversation, but I am searching to see if I bear any ill will.

This is nothing compared to what I've worked through in my lifetime. Small potatoes. But...still potatoes. This must be the source of my blah mood.

Love you all,

[Carmody]

The dream prior to that, I was in this space age garage, examining vehicles to purchase, and I examined in detail this one particular, solid white and incredibly sleek "car" that I informed the attendants I intended to procure, and was told that it was not quite complete, but in just a few hours would be ready. They were in the process of removing the black tires and replacing them with these triangular tread like things that had white belts wound around three smaller wheels.

Before that I had in another dream the experience of blowing my nose, which was duplicated down to the tiniest detail about forty five minutes after I woke up, this morning.

So, I figure, my new "car" should be ready any ole time, now.

yes..with wheels like that, though, it is going to be moving over hard terrain. slowly. Awesome vehicle, tough job ahead.

[1inMany]

Triangles...Triangular...Hmm. Over the weekend, I made a ball with some light to show someone who is close to my heart. He put his hand between my hands, right in the middle of the ball. He says, "It's not really a ball. It's triangular. It is vibrating like this (woh, woh, woh with his hand making waves)."

So I start thinking.

Haven't gotten anywhere yet, but it's on the tip of my tongue....

[1inMany]

Energy is vibration. Matter is energy is vibration. Shapes, geometric shapes... Might they be different frequencies of vibration? So there might be a relationship between...frequencies and shapes...and energy and matter.......

[another bob]

Energy is vibration. Matter is energy is vibration. Shapes, geometric shapes... Might they be different frequencies of vibration? So there might be a relationship between...frequencies and shapes...and energy and matter.......

http://feelingtoinfinity.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/as-we-think/


:yo:

[1inMany]

But...an octave. Eight sounds. Piano sounds=vibrations of strings. Voice sounds=vibration of vocal cords. Eight sounds, repeated and repeated, lower octaves, higher octaves but Eight sounds.

Sounds, vibration, energy.

Damn. I know there is something in here...

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Energy is vibration. Matter is energy is vibration. Shapes, geometric shapes... Might they be different frequencies of vibration? So there might be a relationship between...frequencies and shapes...and energy and matter.......

http://feelingtoinfinity.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/as-we-think/

:yo:

Yeah, the floor's about to drop from underneath my feet.

[PurpleLama]

The templates that Ferrell spoke of in the interviews that Playdo posted, and the interpretations dovetailing with astrology, they dovetail with your triangular energy ball, too, 1.

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When the floor drops from beneath your feel, then the only choice left is to fall, or to spread your wings and fly.

[another bob]

[/COLOR]When the floor drops from beneath your feel, then the only choice left is to fall, or to spread your wings and fly.

The way of love is not
a subtle argument.

The door there
is devastation.

Birds make great sky-circles
of their freedom.

How do they learn it?

They fall, and falling,
they are given wings.

-- Rumi

[1inMany]

Carmody said there are 8 components...8 notes...
But there are 7 chakras, some report 7 heavens...
I must have gotten off track. (pulling another chunk of hair out...)

Oh, now I have developed a neurotic twitch in my right eye...the side I see beyond sight with...a sure sign of insanity...I must be close to something! Ha!



wait...there are definitely octaves outside what the human ear can detect. Crickets and birds not only make the music, they are the music being made. The shapes manifested...Other universes MUST exist outside this human comprehension...

[Eram]

Anyone here up for a riddle to sink his/hers teeth in?

* When I lay in the sun for a period of more then an hour.... I get a headache from the neck up.
* When I use vitamin D3 in a high dosage (2000 IU or more).... I get a headache from the neck up. ( vitamin D3 is made internal when sun bathing)
* When I spent some time with my dad (who is a sun gazer and feels a deep friendship for the sun).... I get the same headache.

Yesterday I did my first time sun gazing. For 10 seconds with open eyes, 30 minutes before sunset.... headache and energy bouncing around like a gummy ball all night and keeping me up until 4 am.
Well.... I am certainly sold as for the power of sun gazing, but I would also like to know what's going on with my reaction to the sun, direct or indirect.

I was born in a time that my parents and especially my father was a member of the Rosicrucian's (Lecturium, not the AMOR (which is the occult branche)). Their teachings say that living on the earth is a horrible but necessary 'in between' face for the evolution of the soul and is to be overcome as soon as possible through enlightenment and ascension. My father was quit a fanatic in those days.
I must have copied the blue print of his posture toward life in those days and it made me into someone who withdraw from life here and now as much as I possibly could. To me it resulted in a life that is opposite to being enlightened as in my experience of life was like a water hose that was squeezed fully. I didn't want to be here and now.
Almost a year ago I decided that I had enough of it and that I was ready to walk the walk that was necessary to get me to the point of un-squeezing the water hose.
I came a long way in that year but there are things that I am stuck in and this is one of them.

It might have something to do with not being grounded. I noticed this with the Chi-stretching as well. My knees and ankles seem to be blocked in the chi flow and when doing this stretching, the unlocked chi wants to flow upward in stead of down. Bearcow gave me a few pointers to work on that.

So.. with the sun.. when it's energy comes in me I can feel it's power. It touches the heart and gives an abundance in life force, but I seem to be unable to canalise this. My body doesn't seem to know how to process this input of energy and it bounces around like crazy.

I feel that the problems with the sun energy and the chi stretching are touching the very core of the self created barriers for experience life as I should and I would appreciate any help to get me to understand what's going on and how to overcome this.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BZBr2GeCQUM/TjaWt9NRMwI/AAAAAAAACec/x9C7ZDm2qLs/s320/zon.jpg

[ulli]

Freudian Slip, a la Romney

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c48.0.403.403/p403x403/64632_10150700571251083_228991957_n.jpg

[ulli]

Carmody said there are 8 components...8 notes...
But there are 7 chakras, some report 7 heavens...
I must have gotten off track. (pulling another chunk of hair out...)

Oh, now I have developed a neurotic twitch in my right eye...the side I see beyond sight with...a sure sign of insanity...I must be close to something! Ha!



wait...there are definitely octaves outside what the human ear can detect. Crickets and birds not only make the music, they are the music being made. The shapes manifested...Other universes MUST exist outside this human comprehension...

The eight note, the high C, as actually already the first note of the next octave.
So even though an octave sounds like eight, it is technically seven.

[Dennis Leahy]

Carmody said there are 8 components...8 notes...
But there are 7 chakras,... I've been instructed (kundalina yoga) that there are at least 8 chakras, and "bodies" beyond that. There are 7 chakras "within" the body; the 8th chakra is your aura.

Dennis

[Marianne]

I have an energy healing request. My friend T has had a spinal curvature all her life and has been in pain most days. She had hope for a surgical procedure to alleviate the curvature and hopefully the pain, but found out today that it's too risky and may not help the problem. She's feeling low.

I told her there are other reasons for hope besides surgery. She is thinking she'll go with osteopathic manipulation and that seems a good choice to relieve pain.

I'm asking friends here on the forum to send her healing energy to help her condition and help her see a reason to believe in something more than the physical aspects she can see. She said okay to this.

Thanks so much,
Marianne

[Sierra]

The essence of the Bahai is called Progressive Revelation...
it is taken as a given that the seeker had already done his yoga classes (Hinduism),
done his consciousness raising and ego-overcoming, (Buddhism)
done his lessons in self-sacrifice for the greater body, (Christianity),
done his collective herd religion (like Islam which took him from fierce Bedouin desert nomad to Rumi and Sufism)
and now the final step is the small community, freed from blood relationships, but even crossing all racial barriers.
and accepting all of humanity into the home for cookies.
Small intimate communities, like the early Christians, where the love is so powerful that at the end no one even remembers which coat was theirs,
or which pair of shoes...when it is time to leave the place.
And with such an attitude the synchronicities multiply to the point that they can no longer be computed...
that is the desired goal for humanity. To be as one soul....united in love for Source...

I love this, just love this. There is a time and place for everything and everyone.

Sierra

[ulli]

?????????????????????????????




Wakytweaky
This is the last time I will call you by this name.
It is a baby talk name.
You have been tweaked enough, and you are now awake.
Don't do anything other than basic breathing, eating, grooming, sleeping, raising kids, working.
Drop all that stuff.
You will feel so much more relaxed, I guarantee it
You have just grown up.

One step and you'll see you can walk. It is overdue.
The headache is nothing other than indigestion, from absorbing endless spiritual info...
as the eternal seeker and student...absorbing, absorbing.

Here is my homework for you. Start teaching. Even if it sounds preachy at first.
Or even if it comes out a bit uncertain at first, but start.

Edit out what you consider less important, and stay with what is really important, to YOU, and grab your inner authority and start telling people what you believe and know to be true. Ask them what they need, or tune in to what you perceive to be their needs and try to help connect them with whatever it is they need.

Choose an identity that is YOU!! Trust in yourself,
please, overtake that father of yours and don't look back....don't even project any authority at the Village....
YOU have something that is unique, that is YOU, that no one else has or knows,
and start to build on that. The Villagers can back you up, when it gets really tough, but for now practice what you know.
On your family, your kids, your neighbors, anyone you meet.
Watch what happens.

[Guest]

Hi Wakytweaky,

Acupressure is gentle, there are different methods Jin Shin Jitsu is one of the more gentle types of acupressure and you can learn to do it yourself. It uses mostly vertical meridian points and some diagonal (cross over) points as well.
Find someone who is a master in the art to work with you.
Here is a link
http://www.acupressure.com/
Tui Na (twee na) and Shiatsu can be quite harsh & rigorous, especially in the beginning. Shiatsu is the more gentle technique of the two.

All Acupressure Massage techniques (http://www.acupressure.com/articles/acupressure_massage_techniques.htm), methods and styles use the same ancient acupressure trigger points. They vary in using different rhythms and pressures for stimulating the acupressure points, using not only the fingers, but also the hands, arms, legs and even feet. Some styles also incorporate other healing techniques. Shiatsu Therapy (http://www.acupressure.com/applications/shiatsu_therapy.htm), the traditional Japanese form of acupressure, can be quite vigorous, with deep pressure applied to each point for three to five seconds. In Jin Shin Acupressure (http://www.acupressure.com/applications/jinShin.htm), at least two points are gently held for a minute or more. This style also uses the Extra Meridians or Extraordinary Vessels, which balance the meridians. Tuina Chinese Massage (http://www.acupressure.com/applications/tuina_chinese_massage.htm) and Thai Massage stimulate the Qi ("key") healing energy using acupressure hand movements, full body stretches, and Chinese massage techniques.

Here is a link in the Netherlands region http://www.baysider.com/Business/Acupressure_Massage_Therapy/Info/


Love

Nora

[Rocky_Shorz]

just wanted to add...

what are you doing laying in the sun right now?

this is coming in now, if you are like me, you felt the 33 flares that happened in 24 hours and each one rocked you...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c2small.gif

[ulli]

The essence of the Bahai is called Progressive Revelation...
it is taken as a given that the seeker had already done his yoga classes (Hinduism),
done his consciousness raising and ego-overcoming, (Buddhism)
done his lessons in self-sacrifice for the greater body, (Christianity),
done his collective herd religion (like Islam which took him from fierce Bedouin desert nomad to Rumi and Sufism)
and now the final step is the small community, freed from blood relationships, but even crossing all racial barriers.
and accepting all of humanity into the home for cookies.
Small intimate communities, like the early Christians, where the love is so powerful that at the end no one even remembers which coat was theirs,
or which pair of shoes...when it is time to leave the place.
And with such an attitude the synchronicities multiply to the point that they can no longer be computed...
that is the desired goal for humanity. To be as one soul....united in love for Source...

I love this, just love this. There is a time and place for everything and everyone.

Sierra

You just want to exchange cookie recipes, don't you?
But that's what the unification of mankind boils down to in the end.
Especially the interracial stuff....so many African Americans had jobs because of quota legislation,
and PC meant that whites had to drop their racial prejudice and get along with the brothers...
but after work they each went home to their own neighborhoods.

Only in the Bahai homes was there any real integration of native Americans, Caucasians, Hispanics, African Americans and Asians.
And it was endless potluck meals, endless parties, called Feasts, in different homes, and all the talk was about hey, what's in these cookies? (pasta dish, curry, cake) and how did you make this lemonade?
Amazing diversity. And I miss that.

[ulli]

I have an energy healing request. My friend T has had a spinal curvature all her life and has been in pain most days. She had hope for a surgical procedure to alleviate the curvature and hopefully the pain, but found out today that it's too risky and may not help the problem. She's feeling low.

I told her there are other reasons for hope besides surgery. She is thinking she'll go with osteopathic manipulation and that seems a good choice to relieve pain.

I'm asking friends here on the forum to send her healing energy to help her condition and help her see a reason to believe in something more than the physical aspects she can see. She said okay to this.

Thanks so much,
Marianne

Sending her massages and stretches in a hot tub.

[Eram]

just wanted to add...

what are you doing laying in the sun right now?

this is coming in now, if you are like me, you felt the 33 flares that happened in 24 hours and each one rocked you...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c2small.gif


LOL

Will you believe that I was having similar thoughts when I was tossing and turning in my bed and thought of your posts about the sun in the 'what's up' thread :P


Thanks for the kick in the but Ulli.
I'll take it to heart, but will a new attitude take the strange reactions to the sun away?
I know I have to many balls in the air :juggle:.
I feel a bit like a kid in a candy store now that I finally seek to bring balance in my energies and I should take it down a few nudges.

Thanks for the accupressure links Nora. I will look into them.

@ marianne... I will send the best vibrations suitable to your friend.

[Jenci]

Anyone here up for a riddle to sink his/hers teeth in?

* When I lay in the sun for a period of more then an hour.... I get a headache from the neck up.
* When I use vitamin D3 in a high dosage (2000 IU or more).... I get a headache from the neck up. ( vitamin D3 is made internal when sun bathing)
* When I spent some time with my dad (who is a sun gazer and feels a deep friendship for the sun).... I get the same headache.

Yesterday I did my first time sun gazing. For 10 seconds with open eyes, 30 minutes before sunset.... headache and energy bouncing around like a gummy ball all night and keeping me up until 4 am.
Well.... I am certainly sold as for the power of sun gazing, but I would also like to know what's going on with my reaction to the sun, direct or indirect.

I was born in a time that my parents and especially my father was a member of the Rosicrucian's (Lecturium, not the AMOR (which is the occult branche)). Their teachings say that living on the earth is a horrible but necessary 'in between' face for the evolution of the soul and is to be overcome as soon as possible through enlightenment and ascension. My father was quit a fanatic in those days.
I must have copied the blue print of his posture toward life in those days and it made me into someone who withdraw from life here and now as much as I possibly could. To me it resulted in a life that is opposite to being enlightened as in my experience of life was like a water hose that was squeezed fully. I didn't want to be here and now.
Almost a year ago I decided that I had enough of it and that I was ready to walk the walk that was necessary to get me to the point of un-squeezing the water hose.
I came a long way in that year but there are things that I am stuck in and this is one of them.

It might have something to do with not being grounded. I noticed this with the Chi-stretching as well. My knees and ankles seem to be blocked in the chi flow and when doing this stretching, the unlocked chi wants to flow upward in stead of down. Bearcow gave me a few pointers to work on that.

So.. with the sun.. when it's energy comes in me I can feel it's power. It touches the heart and gives an abundance in life force, but I seem to be unable to canalise this. My body doesn't seem to know how to process this input of energy and it bounces around like crazy.

I feel that the problems with the sun energy and the chi stretching are touching the very core of the self created barriers for experience life as I should and I would appreciate any help to get me to understand what's going on and how to overcome this.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BZBr2GeCQUM/TjaWt9NRMwI/AAAAAAAACec/x9C7ZDm2qLs/s320/zon.jpg

Hi Waky,

The mind will always be fascinated with the comings and goings and there will always be a problem to solve or something to make sense of....the mind will never be satisfied.

But something perceives all of this. Whatever happens, shift your attention back to what perceives all of it. Investigate it - does this Awareness need to make sense of what is going on?


Jeanette

[Marianne]

I have an energy healing request. My friend T has had a spinal curvature all her life and has been in pain most days. She had hope for a surgical procedure to alleviate the curvature and hopefully the pain, but found out today that it's too risky and may not help the problem. She's feeling low.

I told her there are other reasons for hope besides surgery. She is thinking she'll go with osteopathic manipulation and that seems a good choice to relieve pain.

I'm asking friends here on the forum to send her healing energy to help her condition and help her see a reason to believe in something more than the physical aspects she can see. She said okay to this.

Thanks so much,
Marianne

Sending her massages and stretches in a hot tub.

Oh, that's so nice Ulli, massage and hot tub stretches ... I think we all could use that. Visualizing it here and now.

I got some good feedback about Quantum Touch ... I'm off to investigate and buy a workshop DVD and learn/teach something new. It's a win-win for more than just my friend.

I want cookie recipes too! I agree about potlucks, a good first step toward friendship when you don't yet know what you have in common but are willng to find out.

Rocky, I tossed and turned last night too. Then when I finally got to sleep I got a cat's face in mine, wanting to go out. I got maybe 4 hours of intermittent sleep. I'm reminded of Dawn's breatherarian thread, where she talked about needing only 1.5 hours sleep each night.

What do you do when you have so much extra time? Except last night was different, I was tired this morning. Got my wind though and am energized now because I have so much work to do today. Then why am I sitting on Avalon, you ask?

Love,
JB

Thanks Waky for the good vibes.
Jenci, I learn something from your posts, thanks.

[ulli]

[QUOTE=Rocky_Shorz;541694]
Thanks for the kick in the but Ulli.
I'll take it to heart, but will a new attitude take the strange reactions to the sun away?
.

Sun flares and migraines are related, there is no doubt. I first heard that from an astronomer who discovered the correlation between his wife's migraines and solar flares during the seventies.
Then I discovered I had the same issue.
But since about a year ago I have had no more migraines, even if I eat cheese. Earlier on I thought I would have that problem for life, and could not imagine being pain free.
I don't know what I'm doing right, but my guess is that it has something to do with this Village.

[Eram]

Sun flares and migraines are related, there is no doubt. I first heard that from an astronomer who discovered the correlation between his wife's migraines and solar flares during the seventies.
Then I discovered I had the same issue.
But since about a year ago I have had no more migraines, even if I eat cheese. Earlier on I thought I would have that problem for life, and could not imagine being pain free.
I don't know what I'm doing right, but my guess is that it has something to do with this Village.


Wait a minute.... what? wait!

do you say ..... eating cheese and getting migraines from the sun?
Is that what you say?

So if I take away the kilo of cheese I eat every week... then.. maybe :pound:

[another bob]

..I would appreciate any help to get me to understand what's going on and how to overcome this.

Hello my Friend!

You appear to be at the stage where one is fascinated to the point of intoxication with their own process. This is why it is helpful to have a qualified guide with whom you have developed a close working relationship. Short of that, both Ulli and Jeanette have offered excellent advice. Beware of making this whole adventure into an entertaining distraction, which is exactly what mind tends to do, so that it won't really have to bother with the prospect of its own demise (a fate implicit in actual awakening). Instead, it can co-opt any liberating experience and make it part of an interesting new identity, with all sorts of angles, like the effects of sun on the solar meridiens, the message behind bodily discomforts like headaches, and so on and so forth, ad infinitem, all the while avoiding the crux of the matter, which is the absolute nothingness of your self images.

:yo:

edit to add a little Zen story:

Zuigan was an awakened practitioner in the last century.

He was known to call out to himself every day: `Master.'

Then he answered himself: `Yes, sir.'

And after that he added: `Become sober.'

Again he answered: `Yes, sir.'

`And after that,' he continued, `do not be deceived by others.'

`Yes, sir; yes, sir,' he answered.

[another bob]

Carmody said there are 8 components...8 notes...
But there are 7 chakras,... I've been instructed (kundalina yoga) that there are at least 8 chakras, and "bodies" beyond that. There are 7 chakras "within" the body; the 8th chakra is your aura.

Dennis

Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

[Eram]

..I would appreciate any help to get me to understand what's going on and how to overcome this.

Hello my Friend!

You appear to be at the stage where one is fascinated to the point of intoxication with their own process. This is why it is helpful to have a qualified guide with whom you have developed a close working relationship. Short of that, both Ulli and Jeanette have offered excellent advice. Beware of making this whole adventure into an entertaining distraction, which is exactly what mind tends to do, so that it won't really have to bother with the prospect of its own demise (a fate implicit in actual awakening). Instead, it can co-opt any liberating experience and make it part of an interesting new identity, with all sorts of angles, like the effects of sun on the solar meridiens, the message behind bodily discomforts like headaches, and so on and so forth, ad infinitem, all the while avoiding the crux of the matter, which is the absolute nothingness of your self images.

:yo:

edit to add a little Zen story:

Zuigan was an awakened practitioner in the last century.

He was known to call out to himself every day: `Master.'

Then he answered himself: `Yes, sir.'

And after that he added: `Become sober.'

Again he answered: `Yes, sir.'

`And after that,' he continued, `do not be deceived by others.'

`Yes, sir; yes, sir,' he answered.


24th of August .... Satsang with prajnaparamita (http://www.prajnaparamita.nl/homeenglish/homeen.htm). I hope to get hooked up there.
My search here in Belgium has been fruitless so far.

It's so weird to understand what you and Jenci talk about, yet to be almost unable to resist these side tracks.

The powers to play with are getting stronger and so are the dangers eh?

[Sierra]

24th of August .... Satsang with prajnaparamita (http://www.prajnaparamita.nl/homeenglish/homeen.htm). I hope to get hooked up there.
My search here in Belgium has been fruitless so far.

It's so weird to understand what you and Jenci talk about, yet to be almost unable to resist these side tracks.

The powers to play with are getting stronger and so are the dangers eh?

Good luck WT!

[another bob]

24th of August .... Satsang with prajnaparamita (http://www.prajnaparamita.nl/homeenglish/homeen.htm). I hope to get hooked up there.

Cool! Shes sounds wise, but will you be able to develop a relationship, or just attend a lecture? Someone needs to watch you closely to see what you're up to, at least in the beginning stages of sadhana. That's the value of a personal relationship. Admittedly, it's rare these days, but it's really the most advantageous situation if one can find it. Otherwise, you've got the Village here, which ain't too shabby, and also your Beloved! A good mate can usually see through our pretense, LOL!



It's so weird to understand what you and Jenci talk about, yet to be almost unable to resist these side tracks.

The powers to play with are getting stronger and so are the dangers eh?

The tendency of the individual soul to see itself as a separate entity causes suffering in us. This ego stops at nothing to achieve its goal of maintaining a separate and all powerful existence. Even sages and seers are constantly being challenged by this encroaching ego and need to keep a watchful eye on all their motives at all times.

~Bhagavan Nityananda

[greybeard]

There is much misunderstanding re K
I had a spontaneous awakening 18 years ago then spent time on the ashram of the author of this book the later Dr Goels
Chris
This may help.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/kundalini-liberating-force-discourses-questions-and-answers-and-views-IDK142/


Preface

Salutations to the Mother Kundalini the Divine Cosmic Energy! You are present in every existing being. You are the supreme knowledge, maya, intellect, memory and delusion. O Devi! You are the mind, the sky, the air, the fire, the water and the earth. Nothing is outside You. You are the Shakti of Shiva. Your Own blissful conscious form gives the shape of the world.

Kundalini Yoga is the most archaic form of spiritual sadhana practiced by Indian sages and saints to achieve Oneness with the Supreme Reality. Kundalini, the serpent power or mystic fire, is the primordial energy that lies sleeping or in dormant state at the base of the spinal column in all human beings. It is also the cosmic power in individual bodies. It is the spiritual potential of cosmic power. It has no form. But the mind has to follow a particular form in its initial stage. From this grosss form, one can easily understand the subtle formless Kundalini. Prana, ahamkar, buddhi, indriya, mind, nerves and all the five gross elements are all products of Kundalini.

Thats a brief paste-- the rest is on the link.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Yo ho ho folks! Previously I gave the link for the Joseph Farrell interviews on youtube. Youtube loads waaaaaaay to slow, and if you have spotty internet connection as I do, the loading stops and you have to reload ad infinitum. Well, here and now I just discovered (I'm always slow to the draw) that the 16 cosmic war interviews, and many many more including interviews with other people, are available in mp3 format at GeorgeAnne Hughes' website: www.thebyteshow.com

FYI,
Playdo

[another bob]

There is much misunderstanding re K....

Thanks Chris!

Here's another view, from Ramana Maharshi, about K (for those who have no interest, kindly excuse the elaboration):

Kundalini
From The Teachings of
Sri Ramana Maharshi
Edited by David Godman

Question: Will concentration on Chakras quieten the mind?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Fixing their minds on psychic centres such as the Sahasrara (the thousand petalled lotus Chakra), yogis remain any lengths of time without awareness of their bodies. As long as this state continues, they appear to be immersed in some kind of joy. But when the mind, which has become tranquil emerges and becomes active again it resumes its worldly thoughts. It is therefore necessary to train it with the help of practices like Dhyana (meditation) whenever it becomes externalised. It will then attain a state in which there is neither subsistence nor emergence.

Question: It is said that the Sakti manifests itself in five phases, ten phases, a hundred phases and a thousand phases. Which is true?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Sakti has only one phase. If it is said to manifest itself in several phases, it is only a way of speaking. The Sakti is only one.

Question: How to churn up the Nadis (psychic nerves) so that the Kundalini may go up the Sushumna?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Though the Yogi may have his methods of breath control for his object, the Jnani’s method is only that of enquiry. When by this method the mind is merged in the Self, the Sakti or Kundalini, which is not apart from the Self, rises automatically.
The Yogis attach the highest importance to sending the Kundalini up to the Sahasrara, the brain centre or the thousand petalled lotus. They point out the scriptural statement that the life current enters the body through the fontanelle and argue that, Viyoga (separation) having come about that way, yoga (union) must also be effected in the reverse way. Therefore, they say, we must, by yoga practice, gather up the Pranas (vital force) and enter the fontanelle for the consummation of yoga. The Jnanis on the other hand point out that the yogi assumes the existence of the body and its separateness from the Self. Only if this standpoint of separateness is adopted can the yogi advise effort for reunion by the practice of yoga.

In fact the body is in the mind which has the brain for its seat. That the brain functions by light borrowed from another source is admitted by the yogis themselves in their fontanelle theory. The Jnani further argues: if the light is borrowed it must come from its native source. Go to the source direct and do not depend on borrowed sources. That source is the Heart, the Self.

The Self does not come from anywhere else and enter the body through the crown of the head. It is as it is, ever sparkling, ever steady, unmoving and unchanging. The individual confines himself to the limits of the changeful body or of the mind which derives its existence from the unchanging Self. All that is necessary is to give up this mistaken identity, and that done, the ever shining Self will be seen to be the single non-dual reality.
If one concentrates on the Sahasrara there is no doubt that the ecstasy of Samadhi ensues. The Vasanas, that is the latent mental tendencies, are not however destroyed. The yogi is therefore bound to wake up from the Samadhi because release from bondage has not yet been accomplished. He must still try to eradicate the Vasanas inherent in him so that they cease to disturb the peace of his Samadhi. So he passes down from the Sahasrara to the Heart through what is called the Jivanadi, which is only a continuation of the Sushumna. The Sushumna is thus a curve. It starts from the lowest Chakra, rises through the spinal cord to the brain and from there bends down and ends in the Heart. When the yogi has reached the Heart, the Samadhi becomes permanent. Thus we see that the Heart is the final centre.

[Note: Commentary by David Godman: Sri Ramana Maharshi never advised his devotees to parctise Kundalini Yoga since he regarded it as being both potentially dangerous and unnecessary. He accepted the existence of the Kundalini power and the Chakras but he said that even if the Kundalini reached the Sahsrara it would not result in realisation. For final realisation, he said, the Kundalini must go beyond the Sahasrara, down another Nadi (psychic nerve) he called Amritanadi (also called the Paranadi or Jivanadi) and into the Heart-centre on the right hand side of the chest. Since he maintained that self-enquiry would automatically send the Kundalini to the Heart-centre, he taught that separate yoga exercises were unnecessary.

The practitioners of Kundalini Yoga concentrate on psychic centres (Chakras) in the body in order to generate a spiritual power they call Kundalini. The aim of this practice is to force the Kundalini up the psychic channel (the Sushumna) which runs from the base of the spine to the brain. The Kundalini Yogi believes that when this power reaches the Sahasrara (the highest Chakra located in the brain), Self-realisation will result.
Sri Ramana Maharshi taught that the Self is reached by the search for the origin of the ego and by diving into the Heart. This is the direct method of Self-realisation. One who adopts it need not worry about Nadis, the brain centre (Sahasrara), the Sushumna, the Paranadi, the Kundalini, Pranayama or the six centres (Chakras).

[Eram]

Cool! Shes sounds wise, but will you be able to develop a relationship, or just attend a lecture?

I just go there with an open intention. I'll bring my search for a teacher to the conversation with the people there ans see what happens.
This woman travels the world as far as I know and I don't anticipate that she will be my teacher.

[greybeard]

Hi Bob
I did not do anything but meditation K just awoke.
Adyashanti in one of his interviews (Spontaneous awakening Sounds True) said that K awakening can be a precursor to enlightenment and continue after that state in order for the body to "harmonise" my word. K energy happened within him for years before and after enlightenment.
Seems that the body needs to go through this change in order to house the raised energy of the in-dweller.
The nervous system needs to be strengthened or it would fry--- smiling.

Ps Dr Goels said that Self Enquiry was important and that the tongue was best kept to the roof of the mouth when meditating to encourage the K energy to move down to the heart cave

Chris

[another bob]

Hi Bob
I did not do anything but meditation K just awoke.
Adyashanti in one of his interviews (Spontaneous awakening Sounds True) said that K awakening can be a precursor to enlightenment and continue after that state in order for the body to "harmonise" my word. K energy happened within him for years before and after enlightenment.
Seems that the body needs to go through this change in order to house the raised energy of the in-dweller.
The nervous system needs to be strengthened or it would fry--- smiling.

Chris

Thanks for your comments, Chris!

Nisargadatta said that he never had any K, and yet I consider him among the great sages and one of the only truly liberated people I have ever encountered. On the other hand, I studied with Baba Muktananda, considered the top K master and a Siddha, until he was outed for sex with young girls.

I have experienced plenty of K, but recognized it as nothing, just dream phenomena, that have no impact on the core contraction, the sense of separate self -- "me and mine". Moreover, I have witnessed hundreds of folks up close and personal over the years involved with chasing K phenomena, and not one would I consider at all awake, but for the most part, even more confused than the ordinary person who never heard of K.

[PurpleLama]

Dang, it took me forever to find this old post, to bring it back, here and now. The topic of sungazing has been coming back up, so here we go:
@eaglespirit

the solar element is very important. Several times you've mentioned it, and I've always gotten side tracked before responding. A few years ago I was hanging out with hermes and he taught me to form the caduces within the body.

first you focus on the sun. Then, with the inbreath, you breath in the light through the forehead. It helps if you have actual sunlight, but with practice visualization works too. Ok, so you breathe in the sun, and pull the light down the front of the body, to the root, where it turns and goes up the spine, reaching the top of the head where it exits the body and returns to the sun.

second, once the flow is established, start collecting light from the flow into the root to form the sun *inside you at the base chakra*, the flow upwards is not diminished as it is an infinite source and with the collection the intake is increased as well, the balance here is important, upon the completion of the sun in the root move the attention to the heart center and repeat the process forming a second sun in the heart, then a third time forming the sun in the head.

thirdly, the perspective is made where the lower sun drops below, this being the connection to earth, and the higher sun moves up to be the sun above, which it is in truth, while you stay with the central sun, which is also true, and the most profound, and yet the three are one and you, yet they are a staff whereby earth connects to heaven

fourth, the hands are put together before the heart and the light of that sun is poured into the hands and out the fingers which are pointed beneath the chin aimed to the center of the head, where is seen the pinecone of light, and you see the pine cone within the head, and seen together with the entire self within the pinecone at the same time, holding both, what is within you are within and what you are is also that which is without

with the completion of the prior step, the fifth and last step happens almost automatically, as the within/without finds the balance, the inward downward flow begins to move in a circular fashion, becoming a downward spiral and the movement reaches the root and spins then the other way spiraling back upward, forming the caduces as exits the head, forming a double helix, or torsion field.

I practiced this several times a day for a few years after I was given it in '08. Progressively the steps became more and more habit until I was pretty much doing the whole thing instantly, and now I can't even stop it every time the sun shines on my face.

anyway, this has been a source of great help and healing, and most of all, Fun.

[greybeard]

Hi Bob
I did not do anything but meditation K just awoke.
Adyashanti in one of his interviews (Spontaneous awakening Sounds True) said that K awakening can be a precursor to enlightenment and continue after that state in order for the body to "harmonise" my word. K energy happened within him for years before and after enlightenment.
Seems that the body needs to go through this change in order to house the raised energy of the in-dweller.
The nervous system needs to be strengthened or it would fry--- smiling.

Chris

Thanks for your comments, Chris!

Nisargadatta said that he never had any K, and yet I consider him among the great sages and one of the only truly liberated people I have ever encountered. On the other hand, I studied with Baba Muktananda, considered the top K master and a Siddha, until he was outed for sex with young girls.

I have experienced plenty of K, but recognized it as nothing, just dream phenomena, that have no impact on the core contraction, the sense of separate self -- "me and mine". Moreover, I have witnessed hundreds of folks up close and personal over the years involved with chasing K phenomena, and not one would I consider at all awake, but for the most part, even more confused than the ordinary person who never heard of K.

Hi Bob
Agree that chasing K awakening is a very "me" thing to do.
I dont.
On Dr Goels ashram I did have an extended period of bliss and other "experiences" but I know that which comes and goes is not it.
However the mind is virtually silent and you know what Ramana said about that.
K awakening has been a blessing for me for many reasons.

Chris

[another bob]

K awakening has been a blessing for me for many reasons.

Happy to hear that, Brother!

I suppose my main point is that fascination with internal yogic phenomena can be, and usually are, nothing but a distraction.

I'll leave it at that.

Blessings!

[Eram]

Dang, it took me forever to find this old post, to bring it back, here and now. The topic of sungazing has been coming back up, so here we go:
@eaglespirit

the solar element is very important. Several times you've mentioned it, and I've always gotten side tracked before responding. A few years ago I was hanging out with hermes and he taught me to form the caduces within the body.

first you focus on the sun. Then, with the inbreath, you breath in the light through the forehead. It helps if you have actual sunlight, but with practice visualization works too. Ok, so you breathe in the sun, and pull the light down the front of the body, to the root, where it turns and goes up the spine, reaching the top of the head where it exits the body and returns to the sun.

second, once the flow is established, start collecting light from the flow into the root to form the sun *inside you at the base chakra*, the flow upwards is not diminished as it is an infinite source and with the collection the intake is increased as well, the balance here is important, upon the completion of the sun in the root move the attention to the heart center and repeat the process forming a second sun in the heart, then a third time forming the sun in the head.

thirdly, the perspective is made where the lower sun drops below, this being the connection to earth, and the higher sun moves up to be the sun above, which it is in truth, while you stay with the central sun, which is also true, and the most profound, and yet the three are one and you, yet they are a staff whereby earth connects to heaven

fourth, the hands are put together before the heart and the light of that sun is poured into the hands and out the fingers which are pointed beneath the chin aimed to the center of the head, where is seen the pinecone of light, and you see the pine cone within the head, and seen together with the entire self within the pinecone at the same time, holding both, what is within you are within and what you are is also that which is without

with the completion of the prior step, the fifth and last step happens almost automatically, as the within/without finds the balance, the inward downward flow begins to move in a circular fashion, becoming a downward spiral and the movement reaches the root and spins then the other way spiraling back upward, forming the caduces as exits the head, forming a double helix, or torsion field.

I practiced this several times a day for a few years after I was given it in '08. Progressively the steps became more and more habit until I was pretty much doing the whole thing instantly, and now I can't even stop it every time the sun shines on my face.

anyway, this has been a source of great help and healing, and most of all, Fun.


bookmark this one!

[astrid]

yes, its amazing how fast your body learns a new technique,
our lower minds think we have to go through the motions every time,
but in actuality we don't. .. The mind body spirit complex is so infinitely
intelligent that often we only have to do something a few times, and it
becomes a knowing.

Lately i have been working on some very deep inner processing and watching to
see the changes manifesting into the mundane. To my surprise they are already
showing up in small and big ways. I have been freeing up a few routines that i had
developed just to make life a bit more simple, especially in the mornings, but i found that
i was misguided there. That double libran need that i have for things to be comfortable
has to be challenged, as it's within that space of feeling not quite right, that evolution really
rushes ahead. Life is messy, learn to love the mess, is what i get.

In the here and now making bread this morning.
Thought i would use up some organic oats that i have sitting around, so making
oat and linseed bread using my San Fran starter. Just about to shape the loaves.

love to all
Life is just fine, messes and all

[1inMany]

Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

I see what you mean. I was working through my thought process...energy/vibrations/sounds creating thoughts/matter. And it seems like, in my odd mind, the chakras might be the destination of the energy that is being sent into the body.

Of course, I'm over that thought process now...onward and upward, ho!

Much Love,

¤=[Post Update]=¤


... it's within that space of feeling not quite right, that evolution really
rushes ahead.

Oh, Astrid, thank you, thank you, thank you!

Much Love,

¤=[Post Update]=¤


GeorgeAnne Hughes' website: www.thebyteshow.com

Oh, goodie :) I'll byte....

Much Love,

[1inMany]

Wow. I made a trip outside the Village today. Lots of fireworks. I am tempted...but will share here, where my intentions are not usually (ever) misunderstood.

I've taken and given classes and workshops on many facets of person-to-person and group dynamics. There are lots of things that come into play when human beings, we, communicate with each other...things like different generations, personalities, communication styles, cultural differences, life experiences, religious beliefs. In my opinion and experience, I am responsible for what I project. I am at least partly responsible for how that comes across to people. I could argue I am more responsible than the other party, but I will not here. I am simply saying that if I am cold, and I offend someone, the responsible action is that I go to that individual and ask questions. Sometimes, the other party will not have been offended by me but reacting more to an internal stimulus. Sometimes, I will hear that I have been cold. In the event that I hear I have been cold to several people, I have a choice. I may well choose to continue to communicate in a cold manner, but now I have knowledge of how that effects other people. I may choose to work on my cold communication style and soften it in order to be a more effective communicator. Either choice is fine, really, no judgment here. But there are consequences, positive and negative, to both styles.

Going back into my shell, now.

Have a wonderful evening, Village, full of love and compassion for each other.

Off I go, sprinkling Much Love...

http://www.free-animations.co.uk/angels/images/angel_2.gif


p.s. oh, crap, I'm not saying anyone is cold, I used "cold" because that is probably the only thing I have never been accused of...

oh, and, um, personally, I do so admire the mods here. Agree with 'em, disagree with 'em, but mod is a volunteer position. I was a mod....once....

oh, crap, and I am not kissing up...I don't play games. Well, unless they involve Superman or something....

[Dennis Leahy]

Good luck WT!

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i54/5/5/22/frabz-You-hooked-up-with-that-many-chaldean-girls-say-mariam-bro-c06ee0.jpg
This one sailed straight over my head. Of course I could Gaagle it, but I'm betting there is a cultural reference in either a TV show or some book that I am unfamiliar with.

Dennis

[Sierra]

Good luck WT!

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i54/5/5/22/frabz-You-hooked-up-with-that-many-chaldean-girls-say-mariam-bro-c06ee0.jpg
This one sailed straight over my head. Of course I could Gaagle it, but I'm betting there is a cultural reference in either a TV show or some book that I am unfamiliar with.

Dennis

That wuz dumb ... (though the line about Chaldean girls made me laugh)
Sorry, no brains left today.
Here is a better one.

[another bob]

Good luck WT!

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i54/5/5/22/frabz-You-hooked-up-with-that-many-chaldean-girls-say-mariam-bro-c06ee0.jpg
This one sailed straight over my head. Of course I could Gaagle it, but I'm betting there is a cultural reference in either a TV show or some book that I am unfamiliar with.

Dennis

That wuz dumb ... (though the line about Chaldean girls made me laugh)
Sorry, no brains left today.
Here is a better one.


http://i46.tinypic.com/i5rls3.gif

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Had a great Reiki circle tonight! The circle is maturing with the participants moving through the attunements and helping with the proceedings. One person in particular is exceptionally gifted energetically. PL, you know to whom I am referring. Anyhow he related a recent dream that blew me away, and the image he relayed truly resonated with me, and now I thankfully can't get the image out of my mind.

He was visited by what he called a "Guide", and was shown a large bowl with water in it. The guide told him that we humans are the bowl, the vessel, the crucible, and the water is the Source (his words). I felt the whooosh whooosh when he said that and immediately identified the water as the Source, the One, the consciousness. What a great image that I have never held before. The body as the bowl and the water as the soul. And it's funny, too, that the body consists primarily of water!

Cheers all! May you go forth in the limitless love and light of the One true infinite creation!

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Well, I posted the same post twice, so instead of deleting it, I might as well erase it and post something else.

I came across a new daily comic called the Saturday Morning breakfast cereal. Here's the link:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/

If you are a cat person, and I know there are many of you on Avalon, check out today's comic. I am not pasting it because of lewd but funny language.

[1inMany]

Listening to Farrell. Started with 13, Playdo, the one you posted. I'm about halfway through and sync doesn't even come close to describing what I'm feeling here...Holy Sh*t

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Yea, I hear you 1NMany. There are 16 nearly two hour episodes. Each one is thought-provoking, and NO commercials!

Here is an interesting article and video showcasing Bonobos using stone tools with a very high competence. I have to admit, it saddened me to see the Bonobos in their confined enclosures, as they were being studied. This is not in the wild. You have to go to the link to see the video: http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blogspot.com/2012/08/bonobo-stone-tools-as-competent-as.html

That makes me think of a favorite song, the Kink's "I'm An Ape Man": eEep67akIn4

Also, I really dig Ray's Dobro!

[ulli]

Well, I posted the same post twice, so instead of deleting it, I might as well erase it and post something else.

I came across a new daily comic called the Saturday Morning breakfast cereal. Here's the link:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/

If you are a cat person, and I know there are many of you on Avalon, check out today's comic. I am not pasting it because of lewd but funny language.

...and there I was, thinking " floobicratican" was the 'lewd but funny language' you were referring to, until I saw that today was yesterday...

[ulli]

Yea, I hear you 1NMany. There are 16 nearly two hour episodes. Each one is thought-provoking, and NO commercials!

Here is an interesting article and video showcasing Bonobos using stone tools with a very high competence. I have to admit, it saddened me to see the Bonobos in their confined enclosures, as they were being studied. This is not in the wild. You have to go to the link to see the video: http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blogspot.com/2012/08/bonobo-stone-tools-as-competent-as.html

That makes me think of a favorite song, the Kink's "I'm An Ape Man": eEep67akIn4

Also, I really dig Ray's Dobro!


You are right, the Bonobos are not living in the wild.
But if that saddens you, hey...think of how they can now develop
considering that they are protected from such wild(er)ness.

Maybe even become aware of their captors and start pleading with them for their freedom.

Or start fighting amongst each other, with some of them wanting to remove the enclosure
while others insist it stays, since they see it as a protective shield.

And before you know it, some of them will have formed a forum and call it Project Avalon...hehe...

[Swan]

Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

Thank you AB!

A couple of years ago I had a session with an energy healer. She was very good, and very expensive.

She checked my chakras, and none of them were functioning properly except my crown chakra which was spinning strongly.

She was quite worried and suggested I regulary " clean " my chakras. Since " Only my spirituality was holding me together".

Well maybe she was right, but my feeling at the time was; everything is as it should be...

A short time after, my spiritual experiences deepened.

[PurpleLama]

The chakras are as unreal, or as real, as the body itself. See? We have various glands throughout the body that are the physical conduits for these energy centers, and the energies are only so strong as these glands are healthy. The point that bob is making, I think, is that when one disassociates from phenomena into the pure awareness of what we really are, which is pure awareness, well, awareness doesn't need for chakras any more than it needs for any other element. If one is working with another person in some mode of healing, knowledge of chakras and the experience of working with them is a basic element of many of these modalities.

[Eram]

Tonight I dreamed that I was a sun and the focus was on shining, emitting light and now I get it.
I have to fully engage in life and be there without holding back and now I feel or see how to do it.

Almost like Ulli said, but with the slightly difference that it is not about 'teaching' per se, but about totally be where I am, without boundaries.

headache and 'bouncing energies' are gone now :)

[Jenci]

Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

Thank you AB!

A couple of years ago I had a session with an energy healer. She was very good, and very expensive.

She checked my chakras, and none of them were functioning properly except my crown chakra which was spinning strongly.

She was quite worried and suggested I regulary " clean " my chakras. Since " Only my spirituality was holding me together".

Well maybe she was right, but my feeling at the time was; everything is as it should be...

A short time after, my spiritual experiences deepened.


Prior to my awakening I had no knowledge of chakras and it has not been something I have felt any strong inclination to explore, so for me they have played no significance in this process.


I got this link the other day on chakras by someone offering a different perspective than the norm on chakras

http://www.fw-indigo-adults.com/pages/SecretBehindChakras.html



Jeanette

[ulli]

Tonight I dreamed that I was a sun and the focus was on shining, emitting light and now I get it.
I have to fully engage in life and be there without holding back and now I feel or see how to do it.

Almost like Ulli said, but with the slightly difference that it is not about 'teaching' per se, but about totally be where I am, without boundaries.

headache and 'bouncing energies' are gone now :)

This is the prayer I taught my son to say every morning and night.

Oh God, guide me and protect me.
Illumine the lamp of my heart
And make of me a brilliant star.
Thou are the mighty and the powerful.


And congratulations on getting such great guidance via a dream.
How cool is that?

[ulli]

Prior to my awakening I had no knowledge of chakras and it has not been something I have felt any strong inclination to explore, so for me they have played no significance in this process.


I got this link the other day on chakras by someone offering a different perspective than the norm on chakras

http://www.fw-indigo-adults.com/pages/SecretBehindChakras.html



Jeanette

Thanks so much for that link, Jeanette. I really welcome that info,
because now a lot of stuff is beginning to make more sense.
Like Waky I have been stuffing myself with knowledge, including New Age knowledge
and not all of it s good for my spiritual health.
Let's see how I fare with this over a period of time.

Here is a quote from the site for those you are not link openers. Let's all be aware of energy vampires.

"In order to understand how the Chakras have been manipulated we collectively need to understand how the manipulation of mind, body and soul works, which is very simple. I can describe this in one word, and that is "COMPARTMENTALIZATION!" This is the preferred methodology of EV's (Energy Vampires) in order to control, manipulate and withdraw energy from external sources. These EV's, which are from all dimensions and realms, use this technique. So the best way to steal a human being's energy is to compartmentalize it. How this was done was by dividing the core into different segments in the body and outside of the body. A lower vibrational entity cannot access a human being's core because of the ultra high frequencies, so the best way to access this pure energy is to use the Chakra system. Having said that, I believe we are all involved in an internal battle. We feel something is wrong internally however we do not know what it is, I think this battle is the fight to keep the Chakras at bay. This is the battle, and the solution for me was to shutdown my Chakras, and totally remove them from my etheric bodies. Prior to me undertaking this huge unique task, I had been experiencing a time in my life where, for no apparent reason, I was feeling dispirited and I just didn't know why. After shutting down my Chakras I have been experiencing remarkable ways of coping with everyday feelings. I believe this recent unearthing will have a profound effect collectively as we come closer to achieving our mission here."

[ulli]

I just received a call from a dear friend of mine who is struggling because business has been so bad.
And this morning when he arrived at his shop he found a dead cat.
It had been placed on his doorstep, strangled, with the cord still around it's neck.
I feel terrible for him...he is a cat lover, and was not even aware that he could have enemies.
Maybe PurpleLama has some advice...please send energies to him.

[Anchor]

Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

Total agreement. Gonna re-post something I wrote on The One Truth forum a couple of days ago on a thread about how the way in which chakras have been used to confuse people (imo)

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I have no proof of the statements I make here. It is what I believe to be true.

Chakras are real and they are part of our energy system while incarnate. You do not have much of a choice about that at this point. We chose to incarnate into this world with this system of archetypal structures including the structure of our biochemical bodies and our "higher" energy systems and the resonant structures that keep them co-located.

Chakras only become a problem or a stumbling block on your path when you make them into one!

OMG my chakras!

For most people, they function as silently, naturally and as unconsciously as breathing. With breathing, one can by act of will learn to control breath and temporarily wrestle control from the bodies autonomous programming. In this way, by various methods, one can control energy flow in the body. This may even include the chakra system (and there are many many chakras - most of the time elementary literature concentrates on the spinally aligned ones) - and this is probably enough as the others take their cues from the main ones - so if you are going to work with you chakra system directly, you may as well pick the main ones.

Many people are not aware that they have chakras in their hands - but these were the first ones I became aware of in my early forays into healing. At least if you have seen Barbara Brennan's book you know otherwise - chakras in the hands, chakras in the feet, chakras in the joints - there are lots and lots of chakras. To the those that can see these, we are lit up like well decorated Christmas trees !

Is it important? I don't think so.

Is it a valid path of experience and spiritual discovery? Yes, I think so, but not for me.

It strikes me that most people do not attempt to correct their breathing - I have a basic problem with doing this myself - and is a lot more fundamental than the orderly functioning of the higher energy systems of the body. In most systems of study I have seen it is actually a precursor anyway. The taking of a few "conscious" deep regular breaths before entering into the first stages of meditation is pretty common to all systems; and in my experience essential.

I never did anything to any of my other chakras :) They exist, but for me it is only an intellectual concept.

Things like this can become exponentially complex, with layers of concepts to challenge the mind of the seeker and tempt with the promise of "accelerated pathways" "easy progress" "shortcuts through the maze". Super disciplined people - the kind who can balance and build stacks of coins on their edge - can do these things, but can anyone, can busy westerners?

Is it practical?

Does it matter?

Is the status of your chakras a stumbling block?

Is the status of your lungs and body any worse of a stumbling block?

What about the mind and the way it operates ?

What about the heart - as an energy center ?

The common thread to all these sciences and practices is meditation. The day someone writes a thread that suggests that meditation is a big psy-ops program that is designed to feed vampires is the day I will know with total authority that misleading bollocks is being spoken! For this thread - can we be as generally certain? I dont really know. For me they are real, but I don't worry about them. I am sure that chakras are important but only for those for whom they are important, and in this way they are important both as potential tools for progress and expansion or potential stumbling blocks. For those for whom they are not important they are not stumbling blocks.
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[astrid]

That dead cat reeks of sorcery to me
Will your friend give the ok for a clean up ??
Or at least a diagnostic ??

I don't like the feel of this at all

[Jenci]

Satsang with prajnaparamita[/URL]. I hope to get hooked up there.
My search here in Belgium has been fruitless so far.

It's so weird to understand what you and Jenci talk about, yet to be almost unable to resist these side tracks.

The powers to play with are getting stronger and so are the dangers eh?

Hi Waky,

Your honesty in what is going on will serve you well in this process.

The mind/ego is not able to resist the side tracks and distractions because without them it has to die its death - and it will avoid death at all costs!!

This is why it takes disclipline to watch what the mind/ego does and to bring Awareness to it, in self-enquiry. I think I have said to you before, eventually the enquiry will stop because you will just be aware that what is going on is the mind/ego but in the meantime all these circumstances you find yourself in are perfect opportunties to enquire as to who/what is interested in what is going on.

Having said that you can get to the point where enquiry stops, there are still a couple of situations where I can get caught up into believing my mind still and they are when I am physically feeling unwell and concerned with the physical appearance of my body.

I have Multiple Sclerosis so ill health is the norm for me but these days most of the time I pay no attention to it but when I have a very bad day physically it has the power to pull me back into the story of Jeanette and how difficult it is to do basic tasks.

Yesterday was one of those days (solar flares make it worse) and all I wanted to do was crawl into bed and sleep but that's not possible with a child to take care of. Getting pulled back into believing my mind and its story is now very uncomfortable for me but in situations like this where I physically have the sensation that I am the body, I have to make an extra effort to do enquiry to free the indentification with the body.

It only takes a couple of questions to realise that I cannot find a person who is suffering from ill health. I can find a body but not a person and in the results of that enquiry the "suffering" dissolves, yet I am aware that the condition of the body continues.

The other situation which will have the power to pull me back unconscious into body/mind identification is my physical appearance.

At the moment it is my hair. It is currently blonde but was very bright red for those who remember my previous avatar. My hair has been pushed to its limits with chemicals and bleach and it has had enough. I need to dye it brown and grow out the coloured hair but my mind likes the blonde and wants to keep it. I've spent many, many hours of thought over this.

Yesterday while I was laid up in bed, I spent about an hour watching Youtube videos of people dying their blonde back to brown. If all this story about my hair is boring you, trust me it bores me silly too !

The obsessive ,compulsive, grasping of the mind is very unpleasant.....and it is hanging on even though my hair is breaking off :lol: I have an urge to take out the clippers and just shave all my hair off so I don't have to think about it any more.

But really that is not the solution because the mind will just grasp something else 'physical' so it can maintain its identification with the person called Jeanette. It's lost so many of its attachments, so it will cling on for dear life to anything it can.

The compulsions are part of the process. Bypassing or avoiding them by trying to reason with the mind will not free body/mind identification; it will just set up camp elsewhere. I have learned that these distractions and obsessions of the mind at the Grace that I need. What is key is Awareness and bringing that Awareness into the compulsion with no resisting of the compulsion as it is given free expression.

I love this quote from Jon Bernie, it's says how I feel about it, although riding the wave is pariticularly pleasant

In the end one rides the wave because one knows that this is how the process works ~ Jon Bernie.



I'm glad you have booked up for the satsang. I would just suggest you keep relaxed and open about what or who it will lead you to. I agree with what Bob says that having someone to show you where you are deluding yourself is good as there are many places to get stuck on this process and develop a spiritual ego, rather than awaken from it.

In the early days I was desperate for a teacher and ended up going to a non-duality meeting in London. I was really pinning my hopes on finding someone there who knew what I was going through. I felt terribly isolated, lonely and lost, trying to make sense of all the things that were happening.

I found the meeting no help at all and I couldn't find anyone there and I left the building crying. I walked to the station, crying. I got on the train crying. I came home, I was still crying.

Do you know what I learned in the end? I got exactly what I needed and by getting out of the way and letting life provide, I've realised that this process works quicker.


Jeanette

[Sierra]

Jenci,

Thank you big time for that link. Now I can ignore my chakras without feeling guilty about it ... :) I've always focused on the heart.

I have a Tibetan Buddhist friend who taught me to shut down my solar plexus chakra if I am in a dysfunctional situation, picking up garbage that does not belong to me. It works, most definitely.

The heart is the heart of the matter lol.

Ulli, I'm so sorry to hear what happened to your friend. I am assuming since you brought it up, that the Village can help?

Sierra

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

I thought the same thing, Astrid. Ulli, that's definitely PurpleLama territory. I'm sure he'll chime in when he has the opportunity to do so.

For a really great viusualtization of the torsion field generator that is our DNA, check out today's APOD:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

OjPcT1uUZiE

[Eram]

Thank you for the elaborate post Jeanette.
There is something that I have difficulty understanding with and I will get back on that when I have more time.

Will you make a new avatar when you decide to shave it all? :)


Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4353/annikah.jpg

Hard to imagine people strangling those lovely animals.
I hope your friends find some answers Ulli.

[meeradas]

Jenci, excellent last post [and no shaving please].
Waky, excellent new avatar.
We're scorching towards 18K, and it won't be me.
Peace=you.

[PurpleLama]

Sorcery was my immediate thought, as well. Astrid as the pro in this department, it's her advice/assistance I would seek, were something of this nature directed toward me. My experience with hoo doo and voo doo mostly stem from a few serious practitioners I am fortunate enough to be friends with.

[ulli]

In the early days I was desperate for a teacher and ended up going to a non-duality meeting in London. I was really pinning my hopes on finding someone there who knew what I was going through. I felt terribly isolated, lonely and lost, trying to make sense of all the things that were happening.

I found the meeting no help at all and I couldn't find anyone there and I left the building crying. I walked to the station, crying. I got on the train crying. I came home, I was still crying.

Do you know what I learned in the end? I got exactly what I needed and by getting out of the way and letting life provide, I've realised that this process works quicker.


Jeanette

WOW,
This triggered memories of being a seeker in London.
The group thing there didn't work for me at all, and the only fruitful teaching sessions I ever had
were one on one with a teacher. I had a great Gurdjieff teacher, a wise old man, and will be forever indebted to him.
He also had group gatherings in his large house off High Street Kensington, but never allowed me to participate. I could not understand why not, especially since the Gurdjieff teachings were all about group stuff. But now I can see why he kept me away.

Yet I was always longing for a group...knowing deep inside that group/team formation and participation was the message of this age.
So once I arrived in Barbados in 1982 I found my first group, the Self Realization Fellowship, based on Yogananda's teachings.
I had recently read 'Autobiography of a Yogi' and was guided straight there..
It was a meditation group, all the members were male professionals, doctors and lawyers, and I was the only female and besides, the only white person there.
So every Sunday evening at 5 pm I attended a one-hour meditation, with no social chit chat allowed. I left when I found the Bahais- at least there was a more diverse group, even though whites were still the minority. But there were children, women, rich and poor, young and old.

Humans have had endless instructions for thousands of years on how to find balance as an individual, but none really on social integration.
For a group to function it has to avoid the extremes of uniformity at the one hand and selfish insistence on eccentricity on the other.
Not demand that a person gave up their individuality, yet look at whatever would benefit the whole group.
Because only the individual has a connection to Source, through their heart.
An organization that demands that individuals give up their sovereignty becomes diabolical in the end.

Bahaullah said it, even though you are not reminded of that in Bahai circles these days:

O SON OF SPIRIT!
My first counsel is this:
Possess a pure, kindly and radiant heart,
that thine may be a sovereignty
ancient, imperishable and everlasting.

[PurpleLama]

as for chakras, I would get behind what anchor has to say a lot faster than I would the article posted earlier.

[another bob]

The mind/ego is not able to resist the side tracks and distractions because without them it has to die its death - and it will avoid death at all costs!!

This is why it takes disclipline to watch what the mind/ego does and to bring Awareness to it, in self-enquiry. I think I have said to you before, eventually the enquiry will stop because you will just be aware that what is going on is the mind/ego but in the meantime all these circumstances you find yourself in are perfect opportunties to enquire as to who/what is interested in what is going on.


Continued gratitude for your sharing of hard-won wisdom, and for your courage, honesty, and compassion, Sister!

[Falcor]

I have no proof of the statements I make here. It is what I believe to be true.

Chakras are real and they are part of our energy system while incarnate. You do not have much of a choice about that at this point. We chose to incarnate into this world with this system of archetypal structures including the structure of our biochemical bodies and our "higher" energy systems and the resonant structures that keep them co-located.

Chakras only become a problem or a stumbling block on your path when you make them into one!

OMG my chakras!

For most people, they function as silently, naturally and as unconsciously as breathing. With breathing, one can by act of will learn to control breath and temporarily wrestle control from the bodies autonomous programming. In this way, by various methods, one can control energy flow in the body. This may even include the chakra system (and there are many many chakras - most of the time elementary literature concentrates on the spinally aligned ones) - and this is probably enough as the others take their cues from the main ones - so if you are going to work with you chakra system directly, you may as well pick the main ones.

Many people are not aware that they have chakras in their hands - but these were the first ones I became aware of in my early forays into healing. At least if you have seen Barbara Brennan's book you know otherwise - chakras in the hands, chakras in the feet, chakras in the joints - there are lots and lots of chakras. To the those that can see these, we are lit up like well decorated Christmas trees !

Is it important? I don't think so.

Is it a valid path of experience and spiritual discovery? Yes, I think so, but not for me.

It strikes me that most people do not attempt to correct their breathing - I have a basic problem with doing this myself - and is a lot more fundamental than the orderly functioning of the higher energy systems of the body. In most systems of study I have seen it is actually a precursor anyway. The taking of a few "conscious" deep regular breaths before entering into the first stages of meditation is pretty common to all systems; and in my experience essential.

I never did anything to any of my other chakras :) They exist, but for me it is only an intellectual concept.

Things like this can become exponentially complex, with layers of concepts to challenge the mind of the seeker and tempt with the promise of "accelerated pathways" "easy progress" "shortcuts through the maze". Super disciplined people - the kind who can balance and build stacks of coins on their edge - can do these things, but can anyone, can busy westerners?

Is it practical?

Does it matter?

Is the status of your chakras a stumbling block?

Is the status of your lungs and body any worse of a stumbling block?

What about the mind and the way it operates ?

What about the heart - as an energy center ?

The common thread to all these sciences and practices is meditation. The day someone writes a thread that suggests that meditation is a big psy-ops program that is designed to feed vampires is the day I will know with total authority that misleading bollocks is being spoken! For this thread - can we be as generally certain? I dont really know. For me they are real, but I don't worry about them. I am sure that chakras are important but only for those for whom they are important, and in this way they are important both as potential tools for progress and expansion or potential stumbling blocks. For those for whom they are not important they are not stumbling blocks.
--

thank you for your post. i would like to think your post has made me well aware of your perspective. but i would like to humbly suggest that perhaps you have placed a limit on yourself with your beliefs, for your belief seems to reflect your experience. there are many stumbling blocks on the way, the mind also being one of them. im certainly not suggesting i have all the answers, but i will share some brief food for thought.

the gnostic teachings are geared toward the study of the archetypes of our universe. it is taught in the tree of life, astrology, and egyptian ways of initiation that in all manifestations, everything on earth is linked by the four elements. there is nothing on this earth that has not manifested in this way, otherwise manifestation would not be possible at all. you are made of fire, water, air and earth. fire representing the fatherly, the will, consciousness, pride etc. water representing feelings and emotion, air representing intellect and reason, earth representing motherly, birth to life, change, material plane..... blah blah..... yes, it goes much deeper....

point being. in these studies, true self realization is not to simply become aware that 'i am'. im sure everyone on this forum who has come to this realization has also realized that it has not become a permanent state. true self realization is to become conscious of these forces within ourselves and the world around us. when we become conscious of the our full manifested nature, only then are we conscious enough to control these forces, and fully able to manifest our god consciousness into this world. as above, so below. we are taught that all is one, the umanifest and the manifest. so.....if we arent enlightened here, how are we to be enlightened there?

the attempt to 'know thyself' through the distortions of intellect and reason is only to use 1/4 of your being. our intellect is a great tool, but the moment you use it, it also puts you one step away from experiencing and feeling. to understand our energy and feelings simply cannot be done by the intellect. the intellect is too quick to assume it knows what were feeling, to label our feelings, to judge our feelings. one must learn to sit and feel their own energy from beyond the mind. this is to utilize the watery aspects that are manifested into your very being to your advantage! you will find that anything you place your conscious awareness on changes. life is energy in motion, and 'god' is in that experience. i believe there is much to be learned there, should you choose to take that path.

at the end of the day i acknowledge we are all here to have a unique experience and a unique way back home. in the meantime, i think it is wise to not put limits on ourselves by believing in something that would put a limit on our experience. we are all unlimited, and limited only by that which we consciously choose to be.

much love
falcor

[Jenci]

Thank you for the elaborate post Jeanette.
There is something that I have difficulty understanding with and I will get back on that when I have more time.

Will you make a new avatar when you decide to shave it all? :)


Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4353/annikah.jpg

Hard to imagine people strangling those lovely animals.
I hope your friends find some answers Ulli.

There will be no shaving of the hair :) ....but it does go to show the lengths the mind will go to to alleviate its suffering.

The loss of fear in this process does not happen in the linear fashion one would expect. I have lost the fear of death. I mean, why would I be frightened of death when I know that I was never born anyway, so can't die.

But fear of a bad hair day ??:scared:

That's still here. Don't ask me how this works ;)


I love the pic of your cat.
Jeanette

[ulli]

Here and Now...
I don't want to mess with the conversation going on in another room
so I'm expressing it here:
'As above- so below' is one of my main mottos.
So I see this universe as an infinite number of fractals,
with the smaller and larger ones connected to each other via vortexes.

Each fractal is like a room in a house and the corridors, or doorways, are the vortexes.
Connecting links.
Each room has different objects, each fulfilling a purpose, yet different in size and importance.
A bedroom has a bed, but also a variety of tables, storage area, lights, curtains for privacy....
anyway, none of these objects are equal, yet they each fulfill a function.
Ok Im rambling. Bear with me.

Here is another fractal: the human body, or vehicle.
From a medical standpoint there are different parts, each with their function.
Heart , brain, eyes, hands, and also more dispensable parts, like the appendix, hair, toe nails.
So there are different purposes and levels of importance.
A cell in an eye is higher in rank than a cell in a toe nail.
There is no absolute equality, no two cells are ever the same.

So let's say Avalon is a fractal, like a mini universe. Let's compare it to the human body for a moment...
Which part does Bill play, and his moderator team?
Anyone who is fixed on the idea of total equality will put Bill in here as an equal,
and challenge him on every decision he makes.
And some do so regardless of the issues involved...
Simply as an excercise to take up battle with authority.
I guess their faulty self image demands it, which functions on the foundation of
self importance.
Keeping their mouths shut would be seen as betraying
their fixed idea of absolute equal partnership.
No respect for the chain of command at all.
What's with that?
For intelligent people to have such perverse notions.
Yes, to me it looks perverse. Why don't they just leave?
What are their motives?
I think it's because there is a hidden paradox...
A basic misunderstanding regarding hierarchy and levels of higher and lower order.

Bill is the heart of Avalon, and is bending over backwards to accommodate everyone
for the sake of fairness and equality. But as the founder member he can draw the line and say,
Ok, I'll be fair, but only up to a point. At that point the damaging energy needs to be flushed down a vortex to the next lower denser fractal where it belongs, due to it's own frequency of vibration. That's following higher cosmic laws.
He is doing his job at maintaining the fractal and thus keeps the vortexes, those that lead to the higher as well as the lower fractals, unblocked.
Which is how it should be if balance is to be maintained.

[Mark]

I've noticed that as well, Ulli, regarding the challenges based upon ego.

So much to comment on ...

... been sleeping terribly the last couple of nights, guess it has to do with the solar flares, as everyone is commenting on. It's been noticeable because previous to that my slumber has been quite peaceful, which is surprising as I am a lifelong insomniac. These must have been some flares.

Been doing my sun-gazing the last couple of days, continuing to remark upon the quality of light, it is so brilliant, those who say we are under a new sun have to be on to something because it certainly feels different.

Too much knowledge, too many books, too much thinking. I've read and read and read and contemplated and synthesized information for 25 years pertaining to spirituality and mysticism. I have a head full of organizations and hiearchies and entities and powers and principalities and in the end, none of it matters. It is the stuff of dreams. The silence matters. The stillness. That which is our original and final resting state, the beginning and the end. Not even the discussions matter, case in point, this one regarding chakras.

I was in that discussion with Anchor at ToT and my contribution is in alignment with l. mysticah's. We are first and foremost energy bodies with no chakras. Chakras are foreign installations designed to make it easier for ultradimensionals to partake of their favorite human energy flavors. If the human body has been bio-engineered as so many have said, our genetics painstakingly chosen by entities who themselves may have been guided by higher dimensional entities, it only makes sense if that is so. I'm not a fan of Georgi Stankov past the point that he speaks in detail about the light body process and the unification of the chakra system as a condition of individual spiritual evolution.

That interview with Kelly La Sha was great. She raised a lot of important points that are overlooked. She talked about the importance of getting control of your emotions and dealing with your issues in order to clear yourself and how that is a fundamental thing to do before you can even think about moving higher in any sort of ascension process. She talked about how all of the ascension timelines and possibilities that everyone is talking about, from moving up to 5D to a shift in earths, higher vs catastrophic, to pole shifts and earth changes, may have more to do with different soul groups than one overall reality that everyone must experience. One soul group may have access to one type of future scenario, another may have access to another type. She and Lisa had a good discussion about this possibility. Definitely worth the time listening to it ...

Jenci, I think a bald head would be quite a nice look for you. I think you could get away with it. Or, maybe just leaving a shock of brown hair at the top and front. :)

[meeradas]

But fear of a bad hair day ??:scared:

That's still here. Don't ask me how this works ;)

Amazing, ridiculous; isn't it. What a rascal.

[1inMany]

It isn't real? Well, what is real? This is some kind of game? Who is having the fun? A line of Angels on my right, a monk-looking dude on my left. Are they real? My child clinking a glass with a spoon. Is that real? I have hurt my shoulder. Is that real? I'm supposed to be completely embedded here, or was at some point. And feeling angry is somehow ungrateful. Is the anger real? Or is the appearance of being ungrateful real? Now, I'm supposed to let go of every single thing I have ever known. I'm trying here, ok? Is this effort real? Is it not enough? Is this fear real? I am to embrace what is real. Jump off the edge and fly in the real. Are these wings real? What I can see is not real, but if I see it in another sense it is real. I have thrown out just about everything I have held as sacred at some point. What is left? I'm doing the best I can, here. The energy, that is real. The light is real. How can that be real when it is used for that which is not real? How can what is not real use what is real, or why? If this world is not real, how can other things real be infused?

:frusty:

Please pass the tissue...

[RunningDeer]

The chakras are as unreal, or as real, as the body itself. See? We have various glands throughout the body that are the physical conduits for these energy centers, and the energies are only so strong as these glands are healthy. The point that bob is making, I think, is that when one disassociates from phenomena into the pure awareness of what we really are, which is pure awareness, well, awareness doesn't need for chakras any more than it needs for any other element. If one is working with another person in some mode of healing, knowledge of chakras and the experience of working with them is a basic element of many of these modalities.

- PL, yes, yes! Brilliant!

- Ulli, delicious fractal post.

- Rahkyt, I watched the Kelly La Sha twice. I'm planning on one more go, and I downloaded her eBook yesterday and read one chapter.


"...I am sure that chakras are important but only for those for whom they are important, and in this way they are important both as potential tools for progress and expansion or potential stumbling blocks. For those for whom they are not important they are not stumbling blocks."

- Anchor, yes, yes!

- For those interested in chakras: “Vibrational Medicine,” by Richard Gerber is a good source.

[ulli]

It isn't real? Well, what is real? This is some kind of game? Who is having the fun? A line of Angels on my right, Obey One on my left. Are they real? My child clinking a glass with a spoon. Is that real? I have hurt my shoulder. Is that real? I'm supposed to be completely embedded here, or was at some point. And feeling angry is somehow ungrateful. Is the anger real? Or is the appearance of being ungrateful real? Now, I'm supposed to let go of every single thing I have ever known. I'm trying here, ok? Is this effort real? Is it not enough? Is this fear real? I am to embrace what is real. Jump off the edge and fly in the real. Are these wings real? What I can see is not real, but if I see it in another sense it is real. I have thrown out just about everything I have held as sacred at some point. What is left? I'm doing the best I can, here. The energy, that is real. The light is real. How can that be real when it is used for that which is not real? How can what is not real use what is real, or why? If this world is not real, how can other things real be infused?

:frusty:

Please pass the tissue...


Life is REAL only then, when I AM.
Google it.

[Sierra]

Help. My husband is suicidal, and has been for two weeks. I ask for balance, a loving courageous heart, because I am overwhelmed right now.

What a beautiful cat WT. :)

I need to breathe. Breathe.

Sierra

[Carmody]

Yes, moving from Leo time (Sun, Ego, pride, to shine, etc), into Virgo time (completion, harvest, logic, idealistic, etc).

[wynderer]

Sierra -- i don't usually post on this thread -- but saw your name there -- i read somewhere on the net --??? -- that many are becoming suicidal right now -- not referring to the suicides of the farmers in India, & of some of no-more-money people in Greece, etc

Stephanie Relfe wrote an article re suicide triggers being installed if someone w/'missing time' etc begins to wake up -- these are the group i read about -- i may be way off here in my association w/your husband w/this sort of last-ditch programming -- my prayers for him whatever the source/cause --

wyn

[Sierra]

Sierra -- i don't usually post on this thread -- but saw your name there -- i read somewhere on the net --??? -- that many are becoming suicidal right now -- not referring to the suicides of the farmers in India, & of some of no-more-money people in Greece, etc

Stephanie Relfe wrote an article re suicide triggers being installed if someone w/'missing time' etc begins to wake up -- these are the group i read about -- i may be way off here in my association w/your husband w/this sort of last-ditch programming -- my prayers for him whatever the source/cause --

wyn

Thank you wyn. (hug) I think my father had a suicide trigger that kicked in at 53. He was tortured (electro-shocked) in the military, I know that much.

I do not think this is the case with my husband though, no missing time, and I know this because we are together constantly. :)

Sierra

[another bob]

Help. My husband is suicidal, and has been for two weeks. I ask for balance, a loving courageous heart, because I am overwhelmed right now.

What a beautiful cat WT. :)

I need to breathe. Breathe.

Sierra

Asking for the clear light to permeate and heal your husband of all despair and conflict from inside out, for all guardian beings to focus their uplifting love in his direction, that the optimum outcome be realized, and that all be happy, all be at peace with themselves and with each other, that all awaken to this beauty we are and have always been, and will always be, beyond words and notions, brilliant divine shine, supreme omnidirectional radiance, shanti, shanti, om

[Marianne]

Sierra dearest, sending love your way and holding both of you in my heart for healing as it needs to happen.

[Eram]

Hi sierra,

I send you and your husband all my love and peace.

[RunningDeer]

I send conscious intentions of high frequency energy,
and only the highest and the best for Hubby and you, Sierra.

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[Guest]

Dearest Sierra,

Oh blessed be how hard this must be for you.

Loving Prayers of the Life Source to your husband.


Love

Nora

[ViralSpiral]

My dearest Sierra



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♥

[Belle]

May peace and calm be yours, Sierra. Find the eye of the storm and remain there. Trust your inner self to guide you through this difficult time...silence when it's needed and words when meant to be spoken will be given to you...follow its lead.

Prayers for your husband in this time of pain. If he can just hold on, this too shall pass.

Blessings and love, from one who has been where you are now.

[ulli]

Sierra

I told you the Village would rise to the occasion...my goodness!!!
Incredible... Such a great response from everyone.
Love, Love, Love

[Sierra]

Weeping at y'all. Thank you so much. Ulli has given me the Bahai prayer for husbands, and made me aware of what is happening in his chart. And what to watch out for coming up. I know what I need to do. I can do this.

I pray for awareness for when stuff comes up, I catch it and act from the heart of love and wisdom.

Love you my Village.

Sierra

[Jenci]

Weeping at y'all. Thank you so much. Ulli has given me the Bahai prayer for husbands, and made me aware of what is happening in his chart. And what to watch out for coming up. I know what I need to do. I can do this.

I pray for awareness for when stuff comes up, I catch it and act from the heart of love and wisdom.

Love you my Village.

Sierra


:grouphug:

[RunningDeer]

Weeping at y'all.

Dear Sierra, for what it is worth:

After I sent off my prayer wishes, it didn't seem like enough. So You, Hubby, Wolfie and I walked along the river in the State Forest. Hubby says he's more worried about you than he. He also says that today is the peak of this time line. While I sun gazed, and asked as a double and triple check, Hubby and/or Higher One(s) assured inner knowing. Each hour, each day that goes by for the next two weeks, it will right itself.

With Heart and Love,
Paula XO

[eaglespirit]

Healing Love Loop from Spirit...Looping in on You and Yours, Sierra!

[Anchor]

thank you for your post. i would like to think your post has made me well aware of your perspective. but i would like to humbly suggest that perhaps you have placed a limit on yourself with your beliefs, for your belief seems to reflect your experience. there are many stumbling blocks on the way, the mind also being one of them. im certainly not suggesting i have all the answers, but i will share some brief food for thought.

Read all your post twice. I think I am missing something from your meaning.

My post was a reflection on how it is possible that someone can be limited by any particular phenomena -with the example being chakras and how it is possible that by allowing ephemeral things like that to become a stumbling block. If I am conveying the idea that this is itself limiting - then I failed.

We are limited by incarnation, we are limited in many ways. It is this limitation that eggs us on to discover the paths to freedom from limitation. However, if we allow ourselves to be tied up in the limitations, we may find it a stumbling block to progress. What is a limitation to some, is learning for another - so its hard to be general about what is what.

I hope that makes my meaning clearer.

Thanks

(nice to see you in the Village BTW ;) )

[ulli]

Here is an update on the cat story. I drove to my friends shop this afternoon and he showed me where the dead cat had been before he had it removed by the garbage collectors.
Then he showed me the tape it had had around its neck...yellow plasic ribbon that is normally used by police and road workers.
So I pieced the events together.
They had quite a lot of that ribbon nearby where they had dug up the road.
So I concluded that most likely the cat had been run over by a car, and some pedestrian wanted to move it out of the road, yet did not want to touch it.
So they took some of the ribbon from the construction area and tied it around it's neck and dragged it to my friends yard by his door. I'm sticking by my version. Less drama and more feasible.
Still, the whole incident can be perceived as an omen, especially since the ribbon said the word "caution".
My friend is currently in the process of negotiating a business deal, and spirit is signaling him to be cautious.
A totally different spin, right?
Anyway, thanks everyone for your energy.

[Mark]

blessings, sierra ...