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ulli
21st August 2012, 22:44
Amazing story here about a guy called Lingo and the work he did on brain pops.
http://mondovista.com/amygdala/index3.html
RunningDeer
21st August 2012, 22:46
Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4353/annikah.jpg
Wakytweaky's "Annikah", kitty-cat poises and ponders on the yin/yang of things.
ulli
21st August 2012, 22:46
Rahkyt beat me to it. Naughty Rahkyt!
I'll get the next one, I swear....and if I have to ask Paul to help me...
19,000 is mine!
Falcor
21st August 2012, 22:56
Read all your post twice. I think I am missing something from your meaning.
My post was a reflection on how it is possible that someone can be limited by any particular phenomena -with the example being chakras and how it is possible that by allowing ephemeral things like that to become a stumbling block. If I am conveying the idea that this is itself limiting - then I failed.
We are limited by incarnation, we are limited in many ways. It is this limitation that eggs us on to discover the paths to freedom from limitation. However, if we allow ourselves to be tied up in the limitations, we may find it a stumbling block to progress. What is a limitation to some, is learning for another - so its hard to be general about what is what.
I hope that makes my meaning clearer.
Thanks
(nice to see you in the Village BTW ;) )
i do believe the message was clear in your first post. that is, if im actually getting it :P
i had got the impression from your post that you do not believe getting in touch with your chakas is a necessary part of your path. which is perfectly fine, im definitely not going to tell you if it is or it isnt
im only suggesting that by believing this is not a necessary part of your path, your belief will become a limit you have placed on yourself. the conscious mind has a lot of power in creating our reality, shaping our reality, and limiting our reality. and this power grows right along with our level of awareness. since it hasnt happened yet, is that it to say it shouldnt happen, or wont happen, or doesnt need to happen?
if i have misinterpreted or assumed wrong, i apologize :)
yes, we are all limited by karma, our lifes path, our higher self, etc etc. but i do think we could always use our conscious minds a little better in helping us to solve the riddles of infinity. and yes, i do believe the riddle of infinity can be solved if we learn to use the conscious mind more to our advantage. in our search, sometimes we are looking for answers but we havent asked the right questions yet.............or perhaps we still have a belief we have not let go of that gets in our way.
if i told you all that you were unlimited, would you believe it? :)
falcor
ulli
21st August 2012, 22:57
Permaculture in Greece
NextWorldTV
http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/permaculture/regreening-the-landscape-with-fukuokas-permaculture-techniques-in-greece.html
Nanoo Nanoo
21st August 2012, 22:57
Bon jour all
This morning i woke to a lovely brisk air. After meditating i got excited because today is gardening day and i am planting a new rose bush :-)
Then ill be in my shed working on a new induction system for nitromethane top fuel dragsters :-)
Then im off to lunch with the misses and watch a dvd, perhaps curb your enthusiasm, i love larry david, he is so politically corrupt and incorrect. Adorable!
I did some yoga last night, the missus is introducing me to it but i much prefer to hit a punching bag.
I love life and im ( apparently ) spreading infections all over the place so if you dont want to catch it, get your spiritual condoms out!
Nanoo
Nanoo
:-) <3=-O;-)
Eram
21st August 2012, 23:14
Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4353/annikah.jpg
Wakytweaky's "Annikah", kitty-cat poises and ponders on the yin/yang of things.
She loves to poise and ponder about that with her brother Tommy too.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg560/scaled.php?server=560&filename=tommyannika.jpg&res=landing
There must be a picture of them somewhere, where they lie in a perfect yin yang circle, which is their favourite choice of sleeping and when I find it, I will post it here and now.
Eram
21st August 2012, 23:21
Bon jour all
This morning i woke to a lovely brisk air. After meditating i got excited because today is gardening day and i am planting a new rose bush :-)
Then ill be in my shed working on a new induction system for nitromethane top fuel dragsters :-)
Then im off to lunch with the misses and watch a dvd, perhaps curb your enthusiasm, i love larry david, he is so politically corrupt and incorrect. Adorable!
I did some yoga last night, the missus is introducing me to it but i much prefer to hit a punching bag.
I love life and im ( apparently ) spreading infections all over the place so if you dont want to catch it, get your spiritual condoms out!
Nanoo
Nanoo
:-) <3=-O;-)
http://media.patheos.com/Images/CathPT/CathPT_PopeCondoms_pr.jpg
they do exist you know? :cool:
RunningDeer
22nd August 2012, 00:16
Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4353/annikah.jpg
Wakytweaky's "Annikah", kitty-cat poises and ponders on the yin/yang of things.
She loves to poise and ponder about that with her brother Tommy too.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg560/scaled.php?server=560&filename=tommyannika.jpg&res=landing
There must be a picture of them somewhere, where they lie in a perfect yin yang circle, which is their favourite choice of sleeping and when I find it, I will post it here and now.
Little darlings below are copy cats of Tommy and Annika.
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/yin-yang-kittens.JPG
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/heart-kittens.JPG
DeDukshyn
22nd August 2012, 00:47
"It strikes me that most people do not attempt to correct their breathing - I have a basic problem with doing this myself - and is a lot more fundamental than the orderly functioning of the higher energy systems of the body. In most systems of study I have seen it is actually a precursor anyway. The taking of a few "conscious" deep regular breaths before entering into the first stages of meditation is pretty common to all systems; and in my experience essential."
Anchor posted this back there somewhere in a longer post. I just wanted to add that learning to control my breathing, practice practice practice, was one of the greatest things I ever did for myself. It actually changed me, it caused my ego to be less emphasized, it made my thoughts clearer, it made my body healthier. It eventually became automatic, although I have now slipped back to mostly unconscious breathing, but can still get down to 2 breaths / minute during deep meditation for up to 15 minutes sustained -- but its the daily automated controlled breathing I miss (automated controlled? oxymoron of the day ;)). So much practice needed -- so little time ;)
Final point - everyone can change their lives via the breath alone, it's worth the effort.
DeDukshyn
22nd August 2012, 00:51
I wrote a little tidbit to get people thinking a few years back (in fact I wrote quite a lot back then). I just stumbled upon it again on a blog that I started, made one post, then abandoned it completely for three years. Here's the link to my one post there: http://observationssquared.blogspot.ca/2009/01/ive-decided-to-start-my-first-post-off.html
It's a little deep and assumes some basic understandings of some technical metaphysics, but for those who like to tickle their mind feel free to read it.
Dennis Leahy
22nd August 2012, 01:10
Help. My husband is suicidal, and has been for two weeks. I ask for balance, a loving courageous heart, because I am overwhelmed right now. .
Sierra
Asking for the clear light to permeate and heal your husband of all despair and conflict from inside out, for all guardian beings to focus their uplifting love in his direction, that the optimum outcome be realized, and that all be happy, all be at peace with themselves and with each other, that all awaken to this beauty we are and have always been, and will always be, beyond words and notions, brilliant divine shine, supreme omnidirectional radiance, shanti, shanti, om
As I read Bob's invocation, I resonated immediately and it's repetition is added as my prayer. I have no idea how effective I am at getting out of the way and allowing source to move through me, but my intent is strong and my heart chakra feels like a transmitter.
Dennis
modwiz
22nd August 2012, 01:20
Today I caught our cat sleeping in the pear tree pot.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4353/annikah.jpg
Hard to imagine people strangling those lovely animals.
Very cute. Also, a clear sign that there is no pee or poo in the dirt.............yet.
Strangling might then enter the thought process. LOL To be dispelled, of course.
I love cats. I just don't like owning pets. Or people, for that matter.
Tent living is a simple life.
another bob
22nd August 2012, 01:23
...my intent is strong and my heart chakra feels like a transmitter.
Imagine the expansion of our personal and collective vibrational frequency if we regularly and sincerely focused our intent and attention on prayers for each other, rather than on reinforcing conceptual divisions, self-aggrandizement, petty bickering, and perpetual conflict over silly sh*t that ultimately amounts to nothing . . . that to me is the promise of communities like the Village here -- to create the healing protoype in preparation for what's just around the corner, where such communities will be the saving grace of humanity itself.
eaglespirit
22nd August 2012, 02:09
Tent living is a simple life.
Cosmically Simple : )
http://www.theidproject.org/sites/default/files/512px-Cosmic_Heavyweights_in_Free-For-All-_One_of_the_most_complex_galaxy_clusters,_located_about_5.4_billion_light_years_from_Earth._0.jpeg
eaglespirit
22nd August 2012, 02:13
...my intent is strong and my heart chakra feels like a transmitter.
Imagine the expansion of our personal and collective vibrational frequency if we regularly and sincerely focused our intent and attention on prayers for each other, rather than on reinforcing conceptual divisions, self-aggrandizement, petty bickering, and perpetual conflict over silly sh*t that ultimately amounts to nothing . . . that to me is the promise of communities like the Village here -- to create the healing prototype in preparation for what's just around the corner, where such communities will be the saving grace of humanity itself.
We ARE softening that corner's sharpness Here and Now,
Thank You Another Bob...It Is Time For Timeless Blast Off : )
eaglespirit
22nd August 2012, 02:34
Amazing story here about a guy called Lingo and the work he did on brain pops.
http://mondovista.com/amygdala/index3.html
Gotta Love It, Ulli....Thanks for bringing this Here and Now!
Carmody
22nd August 2012, 02:35
Bon jour all
This morning i woke to a lovely brisk air. After meditating i got excited because today is gardening day and i am planting a new rose bush :-)
Then ill be in my shed working on a new induction system for nitromethane top fuel dragsters :-)
Then im off to lunch with the misses and watch a dvd, perhaps curb your enthusiasm, i love larry david, he is so politically corrupt and incorrect. Adorable!
I did some yoga last night, the missus is introducing me to it but i much prefer to hit a punching bag.
I love life and im ( apparently ) spreading infections all over the place so if you dont want to catch it, get your spiritual condoms out!
Nanoo
Nanoo
:-) <3=-O;-)
That's interesting as I once designed some new intake horns for N/A vehicles. It needed a bit of work, but it had the chance of equalizing HP across the range, instead of peaking it.
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 02:36
I'm feeling so much better, thank you all. I have every confidence this is going to smooth itself out in a couple of weeks.
(WCBD, I burst out laughing that your husband was more concerned about me.) :) (Give him a hug for me.)
Sierra lifted on a wave of love
Carmody
22nd August 2012, 02:39
"It strikes me that most people do not attempt to correct their breathing - I have a basic problem with doing this myself - and is a lot more fundamental than the orderly functioning of the higher energy systems of the body. In most systems of study I have seen it is actually a precursor anyway. The taking of a few "conscious" deep regular breaths before entering into the first stages of meditation is pretty common to all systems; and in my experience essential."
Anchor posted this back there somewhere in a longer post. I just wanted to add that learning to control my breathing, practice practice practice, was one of the greatest things I ever did for myself. It actually changed me, it caused my ego to be less emphasized, it made my thoughts clearer, it made my body healthier. It eventually became automatic, although I have now slipped back to mostly unconscious breathing, but can still get down to 2 breaths / minute during deep meditation for up to 15 minutes sustained -- but its the daily automated controlled breathing I miss (automated controlled? oxymoron of the day ;)). So much practice needed -- so little time ;)
Final point - everyone can change their lives via the breath alone, it's worth the effort.
Yes, one does not generally understand how important breathing properly is..until they dedicate themselves enough to immerse in it.
The rest of it is why the cave works so well, with regard to personal elevation and non-integration with the world at large. It isn't selfish, it is merely a requirement, if one attempts to head for the peaks of it all.
1inMany
22nd August 2012, 02:52
What a difficult day. Sometimes new knowledge is imparted in the gentlest of ways, like fairy dust. Other times, there is no way to buffer the blow. I rather think that it would be buffered more if it could be. I have become used to sensing things, feelings or impressions. But turning around and just about mowing someone over, who isn't actually present in the 3D realm, is quite startling. Not like a ghost, but more like someone who is definitely there, but cannot be seen at all. Or all of a sudden hearing a conversation, but not one communicated in words, and understanding it. But the scary part is the realization that I have no clue what's coming next. None. Zippo. Nada. And then what is worse, is that with every moment that passes, the realization is deeper.
It all settles and becomes part of the new me. I feel more love from forces unseen, and some now seen, than I knew existed. And just as the fear and panic release as tears, they are replaced with love and acceptance also with tears.
I don't know why I write this stuff.
I do, however, know why I write this: Much Love :)
ulli
22nd August 2012, 02:53
This is what the sheeple should be doing to the PTB.
Contain them.
http://i.imgur.com/Vn5id.gif
Anchor
22nd August 2012, 02:57
i had got the impression from your post that you do not believe getting in touch with your chakas is a necessary part of your path. which is perfectly fine, im definitely not going to tell you if it is or it isnt
Agree
im only suggesting that by believing this is not a necessary part of your path, your belief will become a limit you have placed on yourself. the conscious mind has a lot of power in creating our reality, shaping our reality, and limiting our reality. and this power grows right along with our level of awareness. since it hasnt happened yet, is that it to say it shouldnt happen, or wont happen, or doesnt need to happen?
I believe I now understand what you are saying. There is no disagreement - I just wanted to make sure.
I understand that I chose "limitation" just as I choose the circumstances of my reality. I understand also that it is my highest desire that everyone be free to make their own choice about the way to exercise their unlimited powers - even if that means to create limitations - however temporary.
I have faith in this concept which is strong enough that I am aware that when things outside of me affect me, then it was by my choice that this happens and for my learning benefit.
We are but endless thought in the infinite mind of all that is. You are one of those thoughts exchanging energy with my thoughts.
We are one, but we are playing a game wherein we are different, where we can exchange energy and share a co-created framework of self-discovery.
You have heard me talk elsewhere of the dance - we all dance around each-other, but we are all the same dancer. We revolve around eachother for the moment. Its a grand and complicated dance in a ballroom made of thought.
From my perspective, as I write, I know I am limited and that this limitation is self-imposed.
I am, if I so desire it, able to alter the parameters of this for myself.
Have I sufficient faith that I can move mountains?
I realize now that I have enough faith to even know that I have any faith at all.
For me this realization was the main "awakening" if you want to call it that and freedom from optional limitation.
I understand that the remainder of my third density experience will be an expansion of faith and an ongoing exchange of energy with those of my other selves that opt to share an illusion.
yes, we are all limited by karma, our lifes path, our higher self, etc etc. but i do think we could always use our conscious minds a little better in helping us to solve the riddles of infinity. and yes, i do believe the riddle of infinity can be solved if we learn to use the conscious mind more to our advantage. in our search, sometimes we are looking for answers but we havent asked the right questions yet.............or perhaps we still have a belief we have not let go of that gets in our way.
Our lower mind cannot understand the unlimited. At best it can be approached through mental gymnastics and abstraction - and leaps of faith, but only approached - because this is the path we walk. It is the higher mind - the mind of the higher self that can start to grasp infinity. The real secret is that it is not necessary to grasp it, because all is one and we are that.
Let our higher selves guide our way, and let us experience limitation in all its glory.
Whatsoever we do is a choice. When you make a choice, you are working with limitations.
We construct this reality in order to do such things.
The denser the illusion, the better it gets and the more that can be achieved therein.
Which is why wanderers like you, me and many here find such rich opportunity to serve in harsh density like the one that we have here.
if i told you all that you were unlimited, would you believe it? :)
Better than that, I know it :)
another bob
22nd August 2012, 02:59
I don't know why I write this stuff.
Don't stop, Sister -- all are served by your exploration!
Blessings!
1inMany
22nd August 2012, 03:00
I don't know why I write this stuff.
Don't stop, Sister -- all are served by your exploration!
Blessings!
Thanks, A-Bob. Love you!
1inMany
22nd August 2012, 03:13
A special thank you, Astrid. I learned something tremendous from you.
In my space, my zone, 8 shadows showed up. Very defined, but they had only two dimensions, like they had no depth. I said, "Oh, I am A light, but not The light. That's over there, by the eclipse, and around the right corner/side." So, they went. And I swear...there was gratitude after?
Now, once upon a time, that would have probably scared the bejeezers out of me. But it was very matter of fact. I owe you, BIGtime, my sweet.
Much Love,
Falcor
22nd August 2012, 03:39
I believe I now understand what you are saying. There is no disagreement - I just wanted to make sure.
I understand that I chose "limitation" just as I choose the circumstances of my reality. I understand also that it is my highest desire that everyone be free to make their own choice about the way to exercise their unlimited powers - even if that means to create limitations - however temporary.
I have faith in this concept which is strong enough that I am aware that when things outside of me affect me, then it was by my choice that this happens and for my learning benefit.
We are but endless thought in the infinite mind of all that is. You are one of those thoughts exchanging energy with my thoughts.
We are one, but we are playing a game wherein we are different, where we can exchange energy and share a co-created framework of self-discovery.
You have heard me talk elsewhere of the dance - we all dance around each-other, but we are all the same dancer. We revolve around eachother for the moment. Its a grand and complicated dance in a ballroom made of thought.
From my perspective, as I write, I know I am limited and that this limitation is self-imposed.
I am, if I so desire it, able to alter the parameters of this for myself.
Have I sufficient faith that I can move mountains?
I realize now that I have enough faith to even know that I have any faith at all.
For me this realization was the main "awakening" if you want to call it that and freedom from optional limitation.
I understand that the remainder of my third density experience will be an expansion of faith and an ongoing exchange of energy with those of my other selves that opt to share an illusion.
yes, we are all limited by karma, our lifes path, our higher self, etc etc. but i do think we could always use our conscious minds a little better in helping us to solve the riddles of infinity. and yes, i do believe the riddle of infinity can be solved if we learn to use the conscious mind more to our advantage. in our search, sometimes we are looking for answers but we havent asked the right questions yet.............or perhaps we still have a belief we have not let go of that gets in our way.
Our lower mind cannot understand the unlimited. At best it can be approached through mental gymnastics and abstraction - and leaps of faith, but only approached - because this is the path we walk. It is the higher mind - the mind of the higher self that can start to grasp infinity. The real secret is that it is not necessary to grasp it, because all is one and we are that.
Let our higher selves guide our way, and let us experience limitation in all its glory.
Whatsoever we do is a choice. When you make a choice, you are working with limitations.
We construct this reality in order to do such things.
The denser the illusion, the better it gets and the more that can be achieved therein.
Which is why wanderers like you, me and many here find such rich opportunity to serve in harsh density like the one that we have here.
if i told you all that you were unlimited, would you believe it? :)
Better than that, I know it :)
thanks john..... i have grown to really appreciate this dance :)
what you speak of faith sounds about how ive recently been feeling and the realization has left me humbled. so much that right now i have nothing more to share, your post was great
much blessings.
RunningDeer
22nd August 2012, 04:20
I'm feeling so much better, thank you all. I have every confidence this is going to smooth itself out in a couple of weeks.
(WCBD, I burst out laughing that your husband was more concerned about me.) :) (Give him a hug for me.)
Sierra lifted on a wave of love
Oops, I'm single. Wolfie is my Yorkie. (His power animal is a wolf.)
But REALLY glad you both are doing better! Wolfie liked the hug you sent along. He's sends this back to you - http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/wet-kiss-smiley.gif?1292867699
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Special/rainbow.jpg
Anchor
22nd August 2012, 04:49
Sierra,
I read back. I read your call. Then I read that you feel better.
However, do we or do we not still have a problem? Are the warning lights still flashing?
If it is felt appropriate, could you share what the supposed root cause of these suicidal feelings are? - no pressure
Has suicide been attempted or merely contemplated?
Is it related to change coming along the tracks like a freight train, towards an otherwise content person does who simply does not want the experience of that change?
Is it related to the despair of one, say who is trapped in a darkened room, hearing creepy sounds, searching for a door or a lightswitch and feeling the challenge impossible?
Is it related to the challenges of meeting a new life each day in a slowly degrading body, one that perhaps is not as efficient as it used to be?
It may of course be none of those things.
I would not have said anything but you only really gave permission to help you and by all accounts it was well met.
What I know, is that he has an asset without which, things would be much harder. That asset is you.
Similarly, for my part, I know that it is Mrs Anchor that ultimately ensures that I can cope with anything - even my own darker moments of pain and dispair and I have had one or two of them.
John..
another bob
22nd August 2012, 05:51
Similarly, for my part, I know that it is Mrs Anchor that ultimately ensures that I can cope with anything - even my own darker moments of pain and dispair and I have had one or two of them..
Je Tsong Khapa, who founded the Gelugpa Sect of Tibetan Buddhism, noted that "A female companion is the basis of accomplishment of liberation." I'd second that emotion. Of course, he was speaking as a male, ensconced in a patriarchal system, but I would suggest it works both ways. Then again, I've heard it said: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bycicle." Whoever said that was probably not much into the supreme and marvelous esoteric tantra, however, and so represents a somewhat provisional pov. Anyway, it's getting on, and I'm being called to the dream chamber by my Beloved, so I'll leave it at that.
:rapture:
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 06:48
Our lower mind cannot understand the unlimited. At best it can be approached through mental gymnastics and abstraction - and leaps of faith, but only approached - because this is the path we walk. It is the higher mind - the mind of the higher self that can start to grasp infinity. The real secret is that it is not necessary to grasp it, because all is one and we are that.
Let our higher selves guide our way, and let us experience limitation in all its glory.
Isn't this the point of why I am here as a human being. To experience this limitation in form. It's perfect :)
Jeanette
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Then again, I've heard it said: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bycicle." Whoever said that was probably not much into the supreme and marvelous esoteric tantra, however, and so represents a somewhat provisional pov.
:rapture:
You speak many wise words, Bob....this being just about the wisest of them all :rofl:
Jeanette
ViralSpiral
22nd August 2012, 09:00
The village has been TRAYS busy!! So wonderful.
More than 18 000 posts.
Holy Brahman doo-doo!!!
My sister and niece came to visit. Girlie time. Twas delicious! A break from interwebzzzzzzz
Ulli, great new stock in the barn
Any candy striped fractal vortexes on the shelves? http://emoticonhq.com/images/ICQ/kiss.jpg
Waky, loved the cat-in-the-pear-tree-pot. Makes for a good Dr Seuss story.
Tent living is a single life.
fyp! :p
Flailing arms reaching out to mighty mediocrity.
Slighted, jaded, wearing thin.
In fact......
perpetual conflict over silly sh*t
In this flailing, when we finally surrender, all one hears is......
A9peZ5WOtL0
And for dahlin' Sierra, if you cant hear it, this is what it looks like
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1318/993139622_94d469e2d7_z.jpg?zz=1
Love ya!
modwiz
22nd August 2012, 09:17
Tent living is a single life.
fyp! :p
Me no know FYP. You changed 'simple' to 'single'. I guess it's that too.
ViralSpiral
22nd August 2012, 09:21
Bon jour all
This morning i woke to a lovely brisk air. After meditating i got excited because today is gardening day and i am planting a new rose bush :-)
Then ill be in my shed working on a new induction system for nitromethane top fuel dragsters :-)
Then im off to lunch with the misses and watch a dvd, perhaps curb your enthusiasm, i love larry david, he is so politically corrupt and incorrect. Adorable!
I did some yoga last night, the missus is introducing me to it but i much prefer to hit a punching bag.
I love life and im ( apparently ) spreading infections all over the place so if you dont want to catch it, get your spiritual condoms out!
Nanoo
Nanoo
:-) <3=-O;-)
Great post! :biggrin1:
Am I wearing it correctly?
http://i45.tinypic.com/334ujw2.jpg
ulli
22nd August 2012, 10:23
Bon jour all
This morning i woke to a lovely brisk air. After meditating i got excited because today is gardening day and i am planting a new rose bush :-)
Then ill be in my shed working on a new induction system for nitromethane top fuel dragsters :-)
Then im off to lunch with the misses and watch a dvd, perhaps curb your enthusiasm, i love larry david, he is so politically corrupt and incorrect. Adorable!
I did some yoga last night, the missus is introducing me to it but i much prefer to hit a punching bag.
I love life and im ( apparently ) spreading infections all over the place so if you dont want to catch it, get your spiritual condoms out!
Nanoo
Nanoo
:-) <3=-O;-)
Great post! :biggrin1:
Am I wearing it correctly?
http://i45.tinypic.com/334ujw2.jpg
Made me laugh. Glad you have come home.
It worries me when you disappear for weeks on end...
without announcing anything. So I've had to imagine
you just sitting there and doodling happily on your next art piece.
How is that coming, btw?
ViralSpiral
22nd August 2012, 11:10
You know that cave that Carmody was talking about? Or Modwiz's tent? That's where I've been. Waxing my surfboard.
Da doodles have been on the back-burner whilst the hamster-wheel has required attention.....
By association, every time I hear/read/type the word back-burner, this song pops up
laPMZCOeCW0
Here another "quickie" I did
ulli
22nd August 2012, 11:52
Look at what has barely missed us here in Barbados...
The worst part is the pale grey/ white area with blue spots inside...that's where the cloud is tallest.
Hope the other islanders can get some protection...and everyone had their leaky roofs fixed in time.
The storm is called Isaac.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcbarir42.gif
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 11:57
I'm feeling so much better, thank you all. I have every confidence this is going to smooth itself out in a couple of weeks.
(WCBD, I burst out laughing that your husband was more concerned about me.) :) (Give him a hug for me.)
Sierra lifted on a wave of love
Oops, I'm single. Wolfie is my Yorkie. (His power animal is a wolf.)
But REALLY glad you both are doing better! Wolfie liked the hug you sent along. He's sends this back to you - http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/wet-kiss-smiley.gif?1292867699
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Special/rainbow.jpg
Dear Sierra, for what it is worth:
After I sent off my prayer wishes, it didn't seem like enough. So You, Hubby, Wolfie and I walked along the river in the State Forest. Hubby says he's more worried about you than he. He also says that today is the peak of this time line. While I sun gazed, and asked as a double and triple check, Hubby and/or Higher One(s) assured inner knowing. Each hour, each day that goes by for the next two weeks, it will right itself.
With Heart and Love,
Paula XO
Ah! MY hubby! Oh good, I was so confused that you suddenly had a hubby (blush). MY hubby is more worried about *me*? Heh ... ?
Ulli says the same thing. The Saturn square birth Saturn energy is fading and will be done in two weeks.
Someone else said the same thing, it would smooth out in two weeks.
Heavens above, this village is synchronous.
Wolfie is fierce. :) I won't tell you what I want to do with Wolfie ... (involves squashing. and kissing tummies. and sickening cooing noises. Wolfie would barf.)
As I got up to get ready for bed, my husband looked up and said, "I feel better." Thank you Village.
Sierra
ViralSpiral
22nd August 2012, 12:21
The storm is called Isaac.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcbarir42.gif
Isaac? Synchronicity. I subscribe to a 'I f*cking love science' thingie-ma-bobby. This was posted 12 hours ago....
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Wot's he sayin'?? As in: The Relativity of Wrong?
phnordy phnaaaar
Posted in same place
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183676_171193159682883_766108166_n.jpg
Science? really? hehe
Aaaaaaanyhoo, my folks celebrate their 55th this year. Instead of d.i.y. awards, they're getting Oscars
So happy the landscape changed Sierra
PurpleLama
22nd August 2012, 12:34
Spirit had other plans, and I will be teaching reiki every wednesday, instead of just twice a month.
I believe I shall put the Village in the basket, for everyone's needs to be included. This will occur in approximately twelve hours from now.
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 12:37
Sierra,
I read back. I read your call. Then I read that you feel better.
However, do we or do we not still have a problem? Are the warning lights still flashing?
If it is felt appropriate, could you share what the supposed root cause of these suicidal feelings are? - no pressure
Has suicide been attempted or merely contemplated?
Is it related to change coming along the tracks like a freight train, towards an otherwise content person does who simply does not want the experience of that change?
Is it related to the despair of one, say who is trapped in a darkened room, hearing creepy sounds, searching for a door or a lightswitch and feeling the challenge impossible?
Is it related to the challenges of meeting a new life each day in a slowly degrading body, one that perhaps is not as efficient as it used to be?
It may of course be none of those things.
I would not have said anything but you only really gave permission to help you and by all accounts it was well met.
What I know, is that he has an asset without which, things would be much harder. That asset is you.
Similarly, for my part, I know that it is Mrs Anchor that ultimately ensures that I can cope with anything - even my own darker moments of pain and dispair and I have had one or two of them.
John..
I think it is "challenge impossible". This feels so weird to talk about this. As if I am breaking a confidence. If my husband ever joins Avalon, I am doomed lol. Just doomed. Not that he would ... He is also adamantly unconscious so the train bearing down may also be part of it.
I just found out yesterday he tried to commit suicide twice a few years ago, while I knew only about one attempt. It was triggered by an abusive boss. Two weeks ago, he was put under the same boss again. It has always been male authority figures that trigger his angst. He had a previous boss that was even worse. He'd come home and burst into tears every night. Since it was his first C++ programming job, he hung in there for exactly one year, before looking for another position.
As you might be figuring out now, his dad was the pits. And his first step-dad was from hell (Ex. held him down, while screaming at him it was his fault for not closing the cage properly, leading to a rabbit's broken leg, and clubbing the rabbit to death in his face, while three years old). He left home when he was 15, because he could see his mother needed her new husband, and there was too much conflict between my husband and her new husband. He supported himself programming, until he was 18, and then joined the army.
My husband is manic depressive. ADD as well. We've been married 24 years now, and it has taken me decades to understand and cope with the cycle. It was much worse when he was younger. He is 50 now, and it seems to have smoothed out. He is chronically depressed as well as dramatically depressed at times, if that makes sense.
Part of the cycle is when he hits bottom is to say he needs therapy. And then he climbs out of the depression and doesn't go. This time, he actually made an appointment. That is a huge change. Oh I hope it is a decent therapist. I only like Reichian breathing therapy myself. (Let go Sierra, let go.)
I think the warning lights have gone off. I think I'd know if it was serious and imminent. The last time he tried to commit suicide, he was in a hotel room, and I paced, cried, prayed for five hours, KNOWING he was trying to kill himself. He finally called at 1:00 AM, and we both simultaneously burst into sobs, when I answered the phone. Came home, cops drama etc. because he had called the suicide hot line while in the hotel.
Sierra
araucaria
22nd August 2012, 12:38
NIce to see a mention of old Asimov on here. I have been wondering for some time why whenever SF is mentioned, no one ever thinks of him. And yet, his Foundation series contains a lot of fascinating stuff – a secret foundation of benevolent mind readers/tweakers, a malevolent mutant same, sophisticated integration of artificial, robotic people indistinguishable from humans, a galactic population large enough for statistical probabilities to apply and, from a basic start-over-from-scratch position (a crumbling empire), be scientifically predictable as part of a great overall plan...
ulli
22nd August 2012, 12:46
Here is my take on the Asimov quote above. On one level I agree with him completely, but there are other layers to the development of democracy.
For a world to go from barbarism to civilization it needs to pass through various stages.
Here is one stage (pre French revolution...gotta start somewhere): public tortures and executions in every village.
Next stage a people's revolution where this time the heads of the elite are being guillotined.
Next stage more monarchs lose their power while the elite start to do their games more and more behind the scenes, away from scrutiny.
Next stage: so-called "democratic" elections leading to dictatorships, first in Europe later in the third world due to people being misled or misinformed.
Next stage: people get more information via the media, now the media itself is being hijacked and becomes the mouthpiece of the elite deceivers. Furthermore, everything is being done to corrupt ordinary people into unhealthy behavior as well as life
styles.
Next stage: along comes the Internet...and for a brief moment this is where truth can still be found.
Next stage: now even the Internet becomes corrupted by the deceivers who place enormous amounts of false info all over the web. People realize that discernment becomes key to survival. Meanwhile life continues to become more and more fragmented, and people of sane mind group together to assist each other in their pursuit of democratic values.
The process reaches its peak when critical mass has been formed and suddenly the consciousness (not the planet) flips over and the suffering masses discover their inner potential and seek the education needed to realize their dreams.
A new generation comes along who is sick of their parents materialism and are determined to clean up the mess.
They return to spiritual values and acknowledge that to be truly democratic they must all participate in the collective process.
This just off the top of my head. Nothing to boast about, and not quite ready for publication, but, hey...this is just a tiny village on the outer edge of civilization. We can see the future far better from this vantage point...
Flash
22nd August 2012, 12:50
Love you here Sierra
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 12:51
Spirit had other plans, and I will be teaching reiki every wednesday, instead of just twice a month.
I believe I shall put the Village in the basket, for everyone's needs to be included. This will occur in approximately twelve hours from now.
Oh heavens, I graphically see a perfect opp to do another story (villagers jostling and squirming, more villagers thudding into the basket) but my mind is blank ...
ulli
22nd August 2012, 12:52
NIce to see a mention of old Asimov on here. I have been wondering for some time why whenever SF is mentioned, no one ever thinks of him. And yet, his Foundation series contains a lot of fascinating stuff – a secret foundation of benevolent mind readers/tweakers, a malevolent mutant same, sophisticated integration of artificial, robotic people indistinguishable from humans, a galactic population large enough for statistical probabilities to apply and, from a basic start-over-from-scratch position (a crumbling empire), be scientifically predictable as part of a great overall plan...
The Foundation trilogy was my foundation....
I had issues with the last book....Gaia being represented by an 18 year old who spoke on behalf of the collective planet, but since reading it I have caught up and with this Village here at the edge of Avalon we are making progress. One for all and all for one.
RunningDeer
22nd August 2012, 12:52
"Dog Aerobics - Crazy Dog Tricks"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y2DBrqw-O8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y2DBrqw-O8
ulli
22nd August 2012, 13:01
Spirit had other plans, and I will be teaching reiki every wednesday, instead of just twice a month.
I believe I shall put the Village in the basket, for everyone's needs to be included. This will occur in approximately twelve hours from now.
This basket case can't wait.
This is going to be fun.
A basket full of basket cases, hehe..
http://www.widewatergallery.com/bb-basket%20case.jpg
PurpleLama
22nd August 2012, 13:03
But what if I told you this girl is 18 years old, now, and just beginning to learn her role on behalf of the planet?
NIce to see a mention of old Asimov on here. I have been wondering for some time why whenever SF is mentioned, no one ever thinks of him. And yet, his Foundation series contains a lot of fascinating stuff – a secret foundation of benevolent mind readers/tweakers, a malevolent mutant same, sophisticated integration of artificial, robotic people indistinguishable from humans, a galactic population large enough for statistical probabilities to apply and, from a basic start-over-from-scratch position (a crumbling empire), be scientifically predictable as part of a great overall plan...
The Foundation trilogy was my foundation....
I had issues with the last book....Gaia being represented by an 18 year old who spoke on behalf of the collective planet, but since reading it I have caught up and with this Village here at the edge of Avalon we are making progress. One for all and all for one.
http://narwhaler.com/img/u4/q/i-want-to-believe-ceiling-cat-U4QOWZ.jpg
benevolentcrow
22nd August 2012, 13:06
Wow! On page 903 already. So much happening in the Village!
Sierra, my heart sends a warm embrace for you and your husband.
Just thought I would post about a dream I had last night. First we were invaded by the military and all of our supplies were confiscated, was told for the good of the whole. More like carpetbagger style. Then we were invading by hostile aliens. We had to hide in the trees, the trees were our protector. It was very strange! Two nights in a row of strange dreams.
Modwiz, I feel a chill in the air! I hope you can add some insulation to that tent of yours. You are somewhere in the North East aren't you. Stay warm!
Purplelama, I would love some of that wonderful reiki energy sent my way. We all need it. I have practiced in the past, I need to again.
Stay dry Ulli, hope the winds change their course.
To all Villagers have a wonderful day!
eaglespirit
22nd August 2012, 13:08
Hi Sierra...this current interview and info may be of interest to You : )
Thought I'd bring it here...it has been discussed in many different ways at Here and Now, imho!
Many Folks around Mother Earth are consciously connecting with Spirit as never, ever before...
and making corrections and re-alignments personally in these turbo-changing-times!
DreamTime Healing
http://www.divshare.com/direct/18378351-441.pdf
http://www.divshare.com/direct/18378353-77a.pdf
Anchor
22nd August 2012, 13:31
I think it is "challenge impossible". This feels so weird to talk about this. As if I am breaking a confidence. If my husband ever joins Avalon, I am doomed lol. Just doomed. Not that he would ... He is also adamantly unconscious so the train bearing down may also be part of it.
I don't want you to betray confidences. I wont be offended if you call a halt to this.
I understand two critical things from your post:
1) C++
2) Crap bosses.
Sadly the sublime joys of creating living programming art in C++ never can outweigh the oppression of a pin-headed twat of a boss that dumps on the most of the degrees of freedom that a programmer actually *requires* to do their job properly and in an aesthetically complete and satisfying manner. The only time I ever achieved the latter was when I was the boss (working freelance) and back when programming was old school and managers had to let us be, because they didn't know anything about what we were doing. They still don't, but they have "best practice" libraries and Harvard research papers and lots of books to inform their ignorant and polarized views on how development should be done.
I can see a vector here for depression. I have suffered EXACTLY the same, except I was free from the other things you mentioned so I was not pushed over the edge.
If I could offer any advice, it would be to encourage him to explore ways in which he can retain measures of control in his work.
These can be unofficial or official; straightforward or devious. The mind of a programmer can come up with all sorts.
For me, how I did this was: I decided to work really hard, pay off my debts and build up what I called a f**k-you fund. It took me a long time, and this was before I knew anything about the end of the world or a zombie apocalypse, Mayans running out of calendar space, Niburu, Alien invasions, Vampire attacks etc - basically all the drama we learned on Avalon.
Once I had my FU fund, I had control back. No boss could touch me after that because I suddenly realized they had NO power. I could just say FU and walk. Mrs Anchor fully supported my freedom to deploy the FU fund without consultation - she agreed to back me without question if I ever quit a job. I never used it, but my attitude changed and I started to acquire more control in the office. Bosses were either scared of me - or had time for me! I was basically ethical, did my work, tried my hardest - but when they were being idiots, I was not afraid to tell them. I always tried to support bosses that supported me.
Back then I did not know about the relationship (that I spoke of in my exchange with falcor a few posts back) between the inner self and the outer experience. Had I known, then perhaps things would have turned out different, perhaps I would have dealt with it all a different way.
I am not presenting the above as a solution. It is just a triggered opinion. As a one time fellow programmer, I think I grasp the root of some of his pain; and so was moved to comment.
I am being also nudged by higher anchor to suggest the usual same-old same-old: that he makes a few diet changes - more raw foods, more water, more sleep etc.
If nothing else, remind him he is not alone. Many others like him are doing the same battles. He is not in any way weird in this regard.
Everything happens for a reason.
John..
ulli
22nd August 2012, 13:42
I decided to work really hard, pay off my debts and build up what I called a f**k-you fund.
I always knew you were a smart cookie, John, but you have just elevated yourself to the level of genius in my eyes.
I just can't understand why there aren't millions out there, sitting on their own FU fund. What an amazing world this would be.
Sierra, I'm now going to share John's letter with your husband using all my telepathic powers. This is IT!!
meeradas
22nd August 2012, 13:42
FU fund
Great idea. Thanks.
Where was that barn again?
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 13:44
As a one time fellow programmer, I think I grasp the root of some of his pain; and so was moved to comment.
I am being also nudged by higher anchor to suggest the usual same-old same-old: that he makes a few diet changes - more raw foods, more water, more sleep etc.
If nothing else, remind him he is not alone. Many others like him are doing the same battles. He is not in any way weird in this regard.
Everything happens for a reason.
John..
Higher Anchor is right on the money. I love the idea of a FU fund. I have learned to back off though. He ah, does the exact opposite when I suggest something. I quit suggesting anything about five years ago, and things are better between us.
He really is a go-it-alone guy. I kind of wonder the reason he is actually going to go see a therapist now, is that I've shut up. So he can hear himself now.
As we all know on Avalon, if you polarize people, you will produce the opposite of what you *say* you want lol.
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 13:51
I decided to work really hard, pay off my debts and build up what I called a f**k-you fund.
I always knew you were a smart cookie, John, but you have just elevated yourself to the level of genius in my eyes.
I just can't understand why there aren't millions out there, sitting on their own FU fund. What an amazing world this would be.
Sierra, I'm now going to share John's letter with your husband using all my telepathic powers. This is IT!!
It is pure genius. :) And it would take a blooming miracle to get my hubby to save a penny (manic-depressives spend money when high. And low.). (Let go Sierra, let go.)
ulli
22nd August 2012, 13:58
FU fund
Great idea. Thanks.
Where was that barn again?
I thought you'd never ask.
Take as much as you can carry in two bare hands, ok?
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ulli
22nd August 2012, 14:03
Here is Meeradas, (never mind he looks like Bill Gates in this picture) scratching his head:
"Where the F**K did all that money come from, all of a sudden....?"
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ViralSpiral
22nd August 2012, 14:12
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/pia16028_watkinsnavdeckNLA_397681736EDR_F0020000AUT_04096M1-br2_160X120.jpg (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=40565)21 Aug 2012 - NASA To Hold Televised Curiosity Rover Media Briefing Aug. 22
NASA will hold a televised news conference at 11:30 a.m. PDT (2:30 p.m. EDT) on Wednesday, Aug. 22, at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., to update media on the progress of its Curiosity rover mission on Mars.
More... (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=40565)
.........
:cantina:
ulli
22nd August 2012, 14:15
I decided to work really hard, pay off my debts and build up what I called a f**k-you fund.
I always knew you were a smart cookie, John, but you have just elevated yourself to the level of genius in my eyes.
I just can't understand why there aren't millions out there, sitting on their own FU fund. What an amazing world this would be.
Sierra, I'm now going to share John's letter with your husband using all my telepathic powers. This is IT!!
It is pure genius. :) And it would take a blooming miracle to get my hubby to save a penny (manic-depressives spend money when high. And low.). (Let go Sierra, let go.)
Hey, maybe he could still go on spending sprees...just make sure he buys stuff he can convert into FU leverage.
Like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superb-AFrican-vulcanite-trade-beads-neckl-antique-SENOUFO-BRONZE-whistle-/400234462619?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2fd53d9b#ht_847wt_1061
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 14:41
For Sierra,
I have come to realise that the deepest suffering of human beings can actually a call from their true nature to awaken. In other words it can be a spiritual problem rather than a mental one and that is why mental (mind) therapies and fixes can be lacking or fail in many cases.
For most of us (those who empathise) there is a natural desire to help or fix when faced with someone with this deep suffering.....but it is not the only way. Being the space that allows the suffering its full expression without any resistance can be tremendously effective. Although this may not be easily understood, it can be true compassion.
I'm posting this to offer a different perspective on this situation in case it may be of help.
Jeff Foster is a spiritual teacher. His awakening was born out of years of depression and suicidal thoughts. Here he writes an essay about a lady he was called on to help, who was at the point of planning her suicide.
DIVINE SUICIDE: Depressive Breakdown as a Call to Awakening
by Jeff Foster, July, 2012
“Take me out to Cypress Hill in my car. And we’ll hear the dead people talk. They do talk there. They chatter like birds on Cypress Hill, but all they say is one word and that one word is “live,” they say “Live, live, live, live, live!’” It’s all they’ve learned, it’s the only advice they can give. Just live. Simple! A very simple instruction…”
- from ‘Orpheus Descending’, Tennessee Williams
I was speaking recently with a woman who was planning her own suicide. She had spent the past few weeks sorting out her finances, paying off her debts, and trying to find foster parents for her young daughter, who would be left motherless after she killed herself. So many people had tried to intervene, but her mind was made up. She was definitely going to die. She had been threatening it for years, but finally it was coming true.
Her friends and family were starting to panic. I agreed to speak with her.
“That’s it. I’m done here. My time on earth is over”, she told me, point blank, at the start of our one-to-one session. Everything had become such a burden to her – her job, her so-called-friends, her failed relationships, her own brilliant but overactive mind, even her beloved daughter. It was all just too much. She was in so much pain, totally drained, fed up and exhausted from trying to help everybody all the time, and never getting anything back. She was the one who gave everything to everyone, but who ever gave anything to her? Where was gratitude? Where was love? Even her young daughter was just “take-take-take” – her demands were incessant. The only way out of this hell was death. Suicide was the logical solution to the problem of living. Her life insurance policy would be generous to her bereaved family.
I let her talk and talk. She had a lot to say, and I said very little. I simply got on her side, saw and felt things the way she did, allowed her to experience what she was experiencing, and allowed her experience to become mine, intimately so. It was easy, since I have known well that place of total exhaustion, that place where “I’ve been trying so hard to save others and have received nothing back”, that desperation to die (or at least to end the burden of living), and also the sense of guilt and terrible sadness that arises from imagining loved ones trying to go on without me.
I stayed close. I did not try to play ‘spiritual teacher’, ‘expert on suicide prevention’ or even ‘therapist’. I certainly did not lecture her about nonduality, the absence of the self, the perfect perfection of perfect awareness, or the non-existence of the ‘I’. We did not get into intellectual discussions about the Absolute and the Relative, the illusion of free will or the ins and outs of Oneness. I did not try to fix her, to mend her, or even to ‘save’ her. I simply listened to her. I wanted to learn from her, not teach her or feed her new beliefs. What was it like, exactly where she was, right now?
I joined the ‘Our Lives Are Exhausting And We Want To Be Free From It All’ Club. We were the exhausted ones, the unloved ones, the ones who nobody appreciated, the ugly ones, the overweight ones, the ones on the verge of collapse, the ones who wanted to die. The ones who nobody understood. I wonder if anyone had ever truly met her there before? I wondered if everyone she had talked to over the years about her desire to die – therapists, friends, family – had just been trying to save her, to fix her, to get her to stay alive and live in the old way, rather than meeting her in her pain and desperation and validating her present-moment experience. Had anyone ever truly met her? Or had they been driven away by her self-pity and anger, or perhaps their own discomfort and frustrated desires to help?
We talked for about three hours. The more we talked, the more I simply stood in her shoes, listening and seeing things from her perspective, being with her without trying to fix her or make her wrong or even right, the more she relaxed and opened up about her true longings and hidden dreams and desires. What became clear was this: Secretly, she did not want to die at all. She knew, deep down, that who she truly is – consciousness itself – cannot die. She knew that only the false can die. Only an image of herself can die. Only dreams can die.
What she really longed for was not physical death, not the death of the body, not the end of breathing, not the cessation of the heartbeat, but the death of the false self, the death of the pretence, the death of falseness and inauthenticity. The second-hand, limited ‘self’ she was pretending to be – the Real Estate queen, the selfless giver, the one who ‘fit in’ with others, the brilliant one with the “16 track mind” as she put it – was utterly false. Her life as it was playing itself out was suffocating her, and until this point, she had only seen death, and foster homes, and life insurance policies, and psychological escape, as the solution.
It soon became clear that this woman, although ‘dying’ on the outside, had a rich, creative inner life that had simply never been given expression. On the inside, she was so very alive, so open to life, so sensitive to everything around her, so “wide angle” as she put it, so “connected to everything and everyone”. She was a force of nature, a wild and free spirit that had totally limited itself over the years, constrained itself to ‘fit in’ to some second-hand idea of what is normal, or right, or proper, or true. She had been living “the wrong life”, so to speak, a dead and deadening life, a life of money and numbers and predictability, and it was crushing this inner explorer, this adventurer, this poet, this visionary, this seer, this spiritual seeker, this big-hearted pilgrim that she was.
The limited self longed to die, and the “Big Self” as she put it, longed to break free. And although this is not my language (I rarely talk about Big Self or Being Aligned With The Universe), I knew that to truly meet her, I had to get into her world, into her language, and stay there, and not flinch for one moment.
The more she felt heard and understood, the more she was met without judgement, the more she relaxed, and the more she started to talk openly about her secret longing to travel, to explore, to ride out into the unknown without a map. She talked with increasing passion about those times in the past where she had felt free and alive and unburdened. There was a longing to return to that simplicity. There was a fire in her, a raging furnace of love that had been suffocated all those years in her attempts to ‘fit in’.
Her suicidal depression had really been a signpost to life! The pain of life-suffocation had appeared to her as the raging desire for death. But it was not really the desire for death, was it? It was the desire for life! For more life! She longed to live, to really live, to no longer suffocate under the weight of the false image. Only one who longed to live could experience such an overwhelming urge to die. She longed with every cell of her body to end the pretence and the falseness and half-lived dreams and to open up to life in all its rawness and beauty – not to die, not to die, but to live in a real way.
What would real, fearless living look like? She had a brilliant mind, and a wide-open heart, all of which had been suffocated and wasted in the business of Real Estate. We started to explore the very realistic possibility of her selling her house and setting off into the unknown with her beloved daughter (“my angel, sent from heaven”). She had always longed to travel to New Zealand, to work there, to build a life there, to live a more simple and truthful existence there, and to expose her daughter to soul-enriching people and landscapes and possibilities. Could her dream become a reality? Was that possible?
She loved her little daughter so much, that was clear. She wanted her daughter to live and flourish and learn truth, that was clear. If she were to put her daughter into a foster home and then kill herself – which had been her plan for years, up until now – she would be teaching limitation to the one she loved more than anything. She would teach something false, something untrue. She would teach closing-off to possibility rather opening up. She would teach death, not life. She would not be teaching the deep truth of herself.
Suicide would be a false teaching, a false way of living and not living, and she knew this in the very depths of her being.
If she did not kill herself, if she let the body live, if instead she killed this inauthentic self, and stopped pretending to be the one she was not, and left this job and this life that was crushing her spirit, and set off into the unknown, and open up to the mysteries of the universe, she may finally become the mother (and sister, and daughter, and friend, and lover) she always longed to be – the one who taught and lived fearlessness, and realness, and life, and never-giving-up, even when exhausted. She would no longer be the ‘exhausted one longing for freedom from all responsibility’. She would be totally, completely, unbelievably responsible in the full sense of the word – able to respond authentically to life, to herself, to her daughter. Able to answer the call that she had been denying for so long.
It was disregarding life’s call that had hurt so much over the years. Life will not be silenced. The longing for death, the certainty of suicide, was really life screaming at her one last time. “LIVE! LIVE!”
Would she listen to its scream, now, at the point where everything was nearly lost?
Suddenly, everything became so clear. There was no longer any choice. She knew what to do. She knew what life was telling her. She had always known. Yes, she was going to kill herself… but not in the way the mind had imagined. She was going to kill her old self, her limited self, her false self. That was the real suicide! That was the call of life! She was going to break up with a life that had become meaningless, empty, and most importantly not right for her and her loved ones – a life that had turned her into something she couldn’t bear – and set out into the unknown, with her beloved daughter, their hearts wide open to possibility. This was not a mental decision. This was not a conclusion based on fear. This was total relief. This was sinking into the deep truth of herself. This was a deep honouring of life. This was deep rest.
Her brilliant ‘mind’ had only been able to conclude ‘death’. It had thought there was a choice between ‘life’ and ‘death’, and it had chosen ‘death’. But what did it know? The truth of her being was saying only one thing: LIVE. The mind would never understand this.
There was no choice but to live.
**
The following morning, I learnt that her adventure had already begun. She was already finding herself boxing things away, making arrangements, selling unwanted possessions, preparing for a new life, a life of freedom and possibility and newness. She was no longer preparing for death, but for more life. It was still suicide, but a divine kind of suicide – the suicide of the false, by the false. She, however, had so much to do, so many plans to make, so much to sort out – much like before – but now she was no longer exhausted, no longer depressed by it all, since finally all of her ‘doing’ was truthful – she was doing what she loved, and she was no longer waiting for others to ‘give back’ to her.
Her relationship with her daughter had shifted overnight. It had become clear: her daughter was not – and had never been – an annoying “block” to her freedom, a drain on her energies, a reason for her suicide. Her daughter was her companion, her fellow traveller, part of this divine suicide! Her daughter was no longer “getting in the way” of the life she longed for – she was now part of that very life. It was no longer “my life” versus “her life” – there was simply life. This life. Our life.
I had not taught this woman anything. I had not really ‘done’ anything at all. I have no clever psychological theories. I had simply listened deeply to her, reminding her of what she had always known, reflecting her own deep truth back at her, so she could actually hear it for once. Out of devastation, out of total breakdown, her truth had been given the space to emerge.
It’s interesting that the word “depressed” is spoken phonetically as “deep rest”. We can view depression not as a mental illness, but on a deeper level, as a profound (and very misunderstood) state of deep rest, entered into when we are completely exhausted by the weight of our own (false) story of ourselves. It is an unconscious loss of interest in the second-hand – a longing to ‘die’ to the false. This longing needs to be honoured, not medicated, meditated or analysed away.
It’s amazing what can evolve naturally when depression and the desire for suicide (which is the desire for the deep rest of yourself) are truly honored, met, embraced, held, and you do not flinch from pain or turn away from it. It’s amazing what can happen when you actively listen to the one in front of you from a loving place of non-judgemental acceptance, trusting the intelligence of life itself, and allowing the divine and loving suicide of awakening to weave its mysterious magic.
From http://www.lifewithoutacentre.com/read/essays-transcripts/divine-suicide-depressive-breakdown-as-a-call-to-awakening/
ViralSpiral
22nd August 2012, 14:53
Thanks for the post Jenci. I am a fan of Jeff's.
My favourite message.... (although those whose clouds seem hugely foreboding, may not see the lighter side of it)
1UuaOye9VyI
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 15:00
Thanks for the post Jenci. I am a fan of Jeff's.
My favourite message.... (although those whose clouds seem hugely foreboding, may not see the lighter side of it)
1UuaOye9VyI
Hi VS, that's also my favourite Jeff Foster video......not that he says much in it ! :)
Jeanette
meeradas
22nd August 2012, 15:26
only in Germoney: http://www.brecorder.com/world/europe/74699-german-customs-demand-500k-for-musicians-violin.html
and Switzerland (http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/startseite/der_flughafen-zoll_gibt_die_millionen-geige_nicht_her-1.5579183)
Top quote: [...] "the violin might be returned if it is regarded as necessary for her job".
Playdo of Ataraxas
22nd August 2012, 15:34
I'll do the same at our weekly circle, too!
Spirit had other plans, and I will be teaching reiki every wednesday, instead of just twice a month.
I believe I shall put the Village in the basket, for everyone's needs to be included. This will occur in approximately twelve hours from now.
eaglespirit
22nd August 2012, 15:56
For Sierra,
I have come to realise that the deepest suffering of human beings can actually a call from their true nature to awaken. In other words it can be a spiritual problem rather than a mental one and that is why mental (mind) therapies and fixes can be lacking or fail in many cases.
For most of us (those who empathise) there is a natural desire to help or fix when faced with someone with this deep suffering.....but it is not the only way. Being the space that allows the suffering its full expression without any resistance can be tremendously effective. Although this may not be easily understood, it can be true compassion.
I'm posting this to offer a different perspective on this situation in case it may be of help.
Jeff Foster is a spiritual teacher. His awakening was born out of years of depression and suicidal thoughts. Here he writes an essay about a lady he was called on to help, who was at the point of planning her suicide.
DIVINE SUICIDE: Depressive Breakdown as a Call to Awakening
by Jeff Foster, July, 2012
“Take me out to Cypress Hill in my car. And we’ll hear the dead people talk. They do talk there. They chatter like birds on Cypress Hill, but all they say is one word and that one word is “live,” they say “Live, live, live, live, live!’” It’s all they’ve learned, it’s the only advice they can give. Just live. Simple! A very simple instruction…”
- from ‘Orpheus Descending’, Tennessee Williams
I was speaking recently with a woman who was planning her own suicide. She had spent the past few weeks sorting out her finances, paying off her debts, and trying to find foster parents for her young daughter, who would be left motherless after she killed herself. So many people had tried to intervene, but her mind was made up. She was definitely going to die. She had been threatening it for years, but finally it was coming true.
Her friends and family were starting to panic. I agreed to speak with her.
“That’s it. I’m done here. My time on earth is over”, she told me, point blank, at the start of our one-to-one session. Everything had become such a burden to her – her job, her so-called-friends, her failed relationships, her own brilliant but overactive mind, even her beloved daughter. It was all just too much. She was in so much pain, totally drained, fed up and exhausted from trying to help everybody all the time, and never getting anything back. She was the one who gave everything to everyone, but who ever gave anything to her? Where was gratitude? Where was love? Even her young daughter was just “take-take-take” – her demands were incessant. The only way out of this hell was death. Suicide was the logical solution to the problem of living. Her life insurance policy would be generous to her bereaved family.
I let her talk and talk. She had a lot to say, and I said very little. I simply got on her side, saw and felt things the way she did, allowed her to experience what she was experiencing, and allowed her experience to become mine, intimately so. It was easy, since I have known well that place of total exhaustion, that place where “I’ve been trying so hard to save others and have received nothing back”, that desperation to die (or at least to end the burden of living), and also the sense of guilt and terrible sadness that arises from imagining loved ones trying to go on without me.
I stayed close. I did not try to play ‘spiritual teacher’, ‘expert on suicide prevention’ or even ‘therapist’. I certainly did not lecture her about nonduality, the absence of the self, the perfect perfection of perfect awareness, or the non-existence of the ‘I’. We did not get into intellectual discussions about the Absolute and the Relative, the illusion of free will or the ins and outs of Oneness. I did not try to fix her, to mend her, or even to ‘save’ her. I simply listened to her. I wanted to learn from her, not teach her or feed her new beliefs. What was it like, exactly where she was, right now?
I joined the ‘Our Lives Are Exhausting And We Want To Be Free From It All’ Club. We were the exhausted ones, the unloved ones, the ones who nobody appreciated, the ugly ones, the overweight ones, the ones on the verge of collapse, the ones who wanted to die. The ones who nobody understood. I wonder if anyone had ever truly met her there before? I wondered if everyone she had talked to over the years about her desire to die – therapists, friends, family – had just been trying to save her, to fix her, to get her to stay alive and live in the old way, rather than meeting her in her pain and desperation and validating her present-moment experience. Had anyone ever truly met her? Or had they been driven away by her self-pity and anger, or perhaps their own discomfort and frustrated desires to help?
We talked for about three hours. The more we talked, the more I simply stood in her shoes, listening and seeing things from her perspective, being with her without trying to fix her or make her wrong or even right, the more she relaxed and opened up about her true longings and hidden dreams and desires. What became clear was this: Secretly, she did not want to die at all. She knew, deep down, that who she truly is – consciousness itself – cannot die. She knew that only the false can die. Only an image of herself can die. Only dreams can die.
What she really longed for was not physical death, not the death of the body, not the end of breathing, not the cessation of the heartbeat, but the death of the false self, the death of the pretence, the death of falseness and inauthenticity. The second-hand, limited ‘self’ she was pretending to be – the Real Estate queen, the selfless giver, the one who ‘fit in’ with others, the brilliant one with the “16 track mind” as she put it – was utterly false. Her life as it was playing itself out was suffocating her, and until this point, she had only seen death, and foster homes, and life insurance policies, and psychological escape, as the solution.
It soon became clear that this woman, although ‘dying’ on the outside, had a rich, creative inner life that had simply never been given expression. On the inside, she was so very alive, so open to life, so sensitive to everything around her, so “wide angle” as she put it, so “connected to everything and everyone”. She was a force of nature, a wild and free spirit that had totally limited itself over the years, constrained itself to ‘fit in’ to some second-hand idea of what is normal, or right, or proper, or true. She had been living “the wrong life”, so to speak, a dead and deadening life, a life of money and numbers and predictability, and it was crushing this inner explorer, this adventurer, this poet, this visionary, this seer, this spiritual seeker, this big-hearted pilgrim that she was.
The limited self longed to die, and the “Big Self” as she put it, longed to break free. And although this is not my language (I rarely talk about Big Self or Being Aligned With The Universe), I knew that to truly meet her, I had to get into her world, into her language, and stay there, and not flinch for one moment.
The more she felt heard and understood, the more she was met without judgement, the more she relaxed, and the more she started to talk openly about her secret longing to travel, to explore, to ride out into the unknown without a map. She talked with increasing passion about those times in the past where she had felt free and alive and unburdened. There was a longing to return to that simplicity. There was a fire in her, a raging furnace of love that had been suffocated all those years in her attempts to ‘fit in’.
Her suicidal depression had really been a signpost to life! The pain of life-suffocation had appeared to her as the raging desire for death. But it was not really the desire for death, was it? It was the desire for life! For more life! She longed to live, to really live, to no longer suffocate under the weight of the false image. Only one who longed to live could experience such an overwhelming urge to die. She longed with every cell of her body to end the pretence and the falseness and half-lived dreams and to open up to life in all its rawness and beauty – not to die, not to die, but to live in a real way.
What would real, fearless living look like? She had a brilliant mind, and a wide-open heart, all of which had been suffocated and wasted in the business of Real Estate. We started to explore the very realistic possibility of her selling her house and setting off into the unknown with her beloved daughter (“my angel, sent from heaven”). She had always longed to travel to New Zealand, to work there, to build a life there, to live a more simple and truthful existence there, and to expose her daughter to soul-enriching people and landscapes and possibilities. Could her dream become a reality? Was that possible?
She loved her little daughter so much, that was clear. She wanted her daughter to live and flourish and learn truth, that was clear. If she were to put her daughter into a foster home and then kill herself – which had been her plan for years, up until now – she would be teaching limitation to the one she loved more than anything. She would teach something false, something untrue. She would teach closing-off to possibility rather opening up. She would teach death, not life. She would not be teaching the deep truth of herself.
Suicide would be a false teaching, a false way of living and not living, and she knew this in the very depths of her being.
If she did not kill herself, if she let the body live, if instead she killed this inauthentic self, and stopped pretending to be the one she was not, and left this job and this life that was crushing her spirit, and set off into the unknown, and open up to the mysteries of the universe, she may finally become the mother (and sister, and daughter, and friend, and lover) she always longed to be – the one who taught and lived fearlessness, and realness, and life, and never-giving-up, even when exhausted. She would no longer be the ‘exhausted one longing for freedom from all responsibility’. She would be totally, completely, unbelievably responsible in the full sense of the word – able to respond authentically to life, to herself, to her daughter. Able to answer the call that she had been denying for so long.
It was disregarding life’s call that had hurt so much over the years. Life will not be silenced. The longing for death, the certainty of suicide, was really life screaming at her one last time. “LIVE! LIVE!”
Would she listen to its scream, now, at the point where everything was nearly lost?
Suddenly, everything became so clear. There was no longer any choice. She knew what to do. She knew what life was telling her. She had always known. Yes, she was going to kill herself… but not in the way the mind had imagined. She was going to kill her old self, her limited self, her false self. That was the real suicide! That was the call of life! She was going to break up with a life that had become meaningless, empty, and most importantly not right for her and her loved ones – a life that had turned her into something she couldn’t bear – and set out into the unknown, with her beloved daughter, their hearts wide open to possibility. This was not a mental decision. This was not a conclusion based on fear. This was total relief. This was sinking into the deep truth of herself. This was a deep honouring of life. This was deep rest.
Her brilliant ‘mind’ had only been able to conclude ‘death’. It had thought there was a choice between ‘life’ and ‘death’, and it had chosen ‘death’. But what did it know? The truth of her being was saying only one thing: LIVE. The mind would never understand this.
There was no choice but to live.
**
The following morning, I learnt that her adventure had already begun. She was already finding herself boxing things away, making arrangements, selling unwanted possessions, preparing for a new life, a life of freedom and possibility and newness. She was no longer preparing for death, but for more life. It was still suicide, but a divine kind of suicide – the suicide of the false, by the false. She, however, had so much to do, so many plans to make, so much to sort out – much like before – but now she was no longer exhausted, no longer depressed by it all, since finally all of her ‘doing’ was truthful – she was doing what she loved, and she was no longer waiting for others to ‘give back’ to her.
Her relationship with her daughter had shifted overnight. It had become clear: her daughter was not – and had never been – an annoying “block” to her freedom, a drain on her energies, a reason for her suicide. Her daughter was her companion, her fellow traveller, part of this divine suicide! Her daughter was no longer “getting in the way” of the life she longed for – she was now part of that very life. It was no longer “my life” versus “her life” – there was simply life. This life. Our life.
I had not taught this woman anything. I had not really ‘done’ anything at all. I have no clever psychological theories. I had simply listened deeply to her, reminding her of what she had always known, reflecting her own deep truth back at her, so she could actually hear it for once. Out of devastation, out of total breakdown, her truth had been given the space to emerge.
It’s interesting that the word “depressed” is spoken phonetically as “deep rest”. We can view depression not as a mental illness, but on a deeper level, as a profound (and very misunderstood) state of deep rest, entered into when we are completely exhausted by the weight of our own (false) story of ourselves. It is an unconscious loss of interest in the second-hand – a longing to ‘die’ to the false. This longing needs to be honoured, not medicated, meditated or analysed away.
It’s amazing what can evolve naturally when depression and the desire for suicide (which is the desire for the deep rest of yourself) are truly honored, met, embraced, held, and you do not flinch from pain or turn away from it. It’s amazing what can happen when you actively listen to the one in front of you from a loving place of non-judgemental acceptance, trusting the intelligence of life itself, and allowing the divine and loving suicide of awakening to weave its mysterious magic.
From http://www.lifewithoutacentre.com/read/essays-transcripts/divine-suicide-depressive-breakdown-as-a-call-to-awakening/
Hi Jenci, Wishing You Well : )
From the first talk of the pdf links I just put up Steve basically says the same things as Your 'Divine Suicide' post for Sierra and Her Husband...it is basically putting a stop to the deep loops we are entrapped in, most unknowingly, until the awareness is allowed to come forward. Jeff allowed the awareness of the woman he discusses to come forward by simply listening to Her unconditionally with His Heart through Spirit, imho.
http://www.divshare.com/direct/18378351-441.pdf
Steve: That’s correct. You see any time at all, you can look at up something in your life and say, ‘I’ve had it, I’ve had enough, that’s it, no more, I don’t want this anymore, thank you.’ Your Spirit is there for you, its there to give you what you want. All its been doing is its been setting up the future for you because you never told it otherwise. You made an agreement so it says, ‘well all right, I can’t make changes, they’re your agreements,’ so it allows it to continue. Once we make that change, or want to make a change, then we have to enfold space‐time. We have to go back into the past, so in the present, we go back to the past, we look at what took place in the past. We then change the past by externalizing the past and replacing it back in time. The moment we place the past back in time, so in the present we change the past, the past and the present sets up the future, and we change the future cycles of time from this moment on. Time will loop itself. It puts you outside time.
I also experienced this personally in January 2007 on that Indian Hill in Dudley, MA. I simply had had enough of the old ways and means after my Son's death and expressed that from my heart openly and verbally to Spirit on that hill...and oh my, did the wonderful happenings start to happen from then on with a helping zap from Sun Spirit
It is an amazing letting go and re-birth of which I feel many are now experiencing in their own ways more than ever.
I feel a whole new 'free' path is opening up for many people now more than ever because they are being led in that direction now more than ever..
Dennis Leahy
22nd August 2012, 15:57
...I think it is "challenge impossible". This feels so weird to talk about this. ...
SierraThanks for the powerful sharing, Sierra.
I know someone who may be able to direct you and your husband to folks dealing with the special cases of ex-military and suicidal ideations. Let me know by PM if you want that info.
For someone whose self-worth took a beating in childhood, joining the military (where they break each soldier down to a worthless piece of meat, then inject a false notion of worth as obedience and loyalty) would finish the job. Please pardon my armchair psychology, but I would find occasion after occasion to genuinely assert positive aspects of his being. I'm sure you do this, but it is what popped into my head. Like an air mattress that has been deflated takes many breaths to reinflate to a state of being whole.
Love ya,
Dennis
ulli
22nd August 2012, 17:58
only in Germoney: http://www.brecorder.com/world/europe/74699-german-customs-demand-500k-for-musicians-violin.html
and Switzerland (http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/startseite/der_flughafen-zoll_gibt_die_millionen-geige_nicht_her-1.5579183)
Top quote: [...] "the violin might be returned if it is regarded as necessary for her job".
Note the wording.....
Carmody
22nd August 2012, 18:16
Then the thing the some psychiatrist might call being 'bipolar'. When one is stuck on the crux of the matter, one can be euphoric in one heartbeat and deathly depressed in the next. the world in two totally different shapes and colors, as a lived impression and experience...from one day to the next. The stepping into freedom and the death of the self..both occurring at the same time.
One problem, as mentioned, is the old world, one that does not want to change and expects and projects the experiencer into being what they where, not the new that is attempting to be. A forced birth. Not at all that separated from the flavour of the experience of the shift of the child to the juvenile..to the adult.
The trick is to understand that the 'adult' stage is not the termination of change and growth in fundamentals, but merely and enforced commonality in descriptive, erupting from a normalization of grouping of parameters from an unaware mass of people calling themselves 'the norm'. And they projecting that into and upon the experiencer.
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 18:27
Wishing you well too, Eaglespirit :)
Jeff allowed the awareness of the woman he discusses to come forward by simply listening to Her unconditionally with His Heart through Spirit, imho.
I agree. Our true nature is space - space which allows everthing to arise and be exactly as it is. Jeff has awakened to this true nature, so he naturally provides that space to others.
In contrast, someone who wants to change a situation creates either grasping or resisting and this will in turn create a restrictive environment for the other person to be in and the chances are that their own Awareness will not be able to come forward or expand in that.
I also experienced this personally in January 2007 on that Indian Hill in Dudley, MA. I simply had had enough of the old ways and means after my Son's death and expressed that from my heart openly and verbally to Spirit on that hill...and oh my, did the wonderful happenings start to happen from then on with a helping zap from Sun Spirit
It is an amazing letting go and re-birth of which I feel many are now experiencing in their own ways more than ever.
My experience too was giving up. I didn't do it voluntarily though, it had to be beaten out of me but surrender got me directly in touch with my true nature.
Let go, let God :) I posted about how it happened here the other day here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=540404&viewfull=1#post540404)
Jeanette
Carmody
22nd August 2012, 18:31
I prefer stay distant from the wording surrender..but to use something more akin to terms like 'stop fighting'. To go neutral. Passive. Zero state. Ground floor. Baseline. Cease. And so on. :)
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 18:50
Jenci, thank you. Maybe the therapist will listen. That is all Reichian therapists do too, listen. It is very very powerful. I listen, but my words are sort of a piece of furniture I think, if that makes sense. I think his walls are up towards me... He wrote a letter to his boss this morning, regarding his stress issues. He is calm and centered. But hugs me fiercely.
Viral Spiral or Can SOMEONE tell me what the two questions are at 2:30 and 5:30 on the video above? I am dying to find out why I am laughing so hard! (Infectious laughter, the best kind.) :)
Dennis, I never put it together like that. Yes, he loves loves loves it when I compliment him. :) And there is so much to compliment him for. I love living with him. This damn depression. I don't think of him as someone torn down and built up, but there is an aspect there perhaps. Well, for sure, it explains his absolute stubborness. Thus far and no farther will I be violated it looks like. I do see him as holding onto some judgement that puts him beyond the pale. a few months ago, we were talking about why I like Avalon so much, and after I got done, he said something to the effect, I don't think I am ready for spirituality, I think if I can obey ... OBEY ****. If I can "be good", I'll be doing good. It broke my heart. He JUDGES himself for being depressed. I know he beats himself up.
The depression affects everything. He'll not work during the week, then say he has to work over the weekend. But ... a lot of times he doesn't work, but he won't allow himself to do anything else but sit and stew.
It wasn't just the military and family, the church is something he cannot abide either. He comes from a very religious family (well his mother and siblings, his father was a freaking pedophile). And he hated the church, the private church school etc. Some of the comments he made about the church showed a horrific misogynistic attitude.
Wow Dennis. Family, religion, education and the military. AND he was bullied severely at school.
Yes, please send me the information Dennis. I have no idea how I'll introduce it (My track record in attempting to introduce door ways sucks).
Miracle time village.
Sierra
Sierra
22nd August 2012, 18:59
Then the thing the some psychiatrist might call being 'bipolar'. When one is stuck on the crux of the matter, one can be euphoric in one heartbeat and deathly depressed in the next. the world in two totally different shapes and colors, as a lived impression and experience...from one day to the next. The stepping into freedom and the death of the self..both occurring at the same time.
One problem, as mentioned, is the old world, one that does not want to change and expects and projects the experiencer into being what they where, not the new that is attempting to be. A forced birth. Not at all that separated from the flavour of the experience of the shift of the child to the juvenile..to the adult.
The trick is to understand that the 'adult' stage is not the termination of change and growth in fundamentals, but merely and enforced commonality in descriptive, erupting from a normalization of grouping of parameters from an unaware mass of people calling themselves 'the norm'. And they projecting that into and upon the experiencer.
Yup. I dread he'll get one of those therapists. Gah. Most of them are like that. So many of them support the milab suppression crap and the normal crap. Who on earth, really wants to be normal? Normal sucks.
RunningDeer
22nd August 2012, 19:25
FU fund
Great idea. Thanks.
Where was that barn again?
I thought you'd never ask.
Take as much as you can carry in two bare hands, ok?
17919
Non-stop deliveries comin' in...
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/money4.GIF
DeDukshyn
22nd August 2012, 19:45
For Sierra mostly:
Without a horrible suicidal depression, I would not be in the place I am today - I think I would still be "lost". During that bout, I tasked "God" (if there was one - I had lost my belief completely) to "Show me a better way, if there even was one". He did, but I had to look for the clues after asking (demanding) - without seeing the clues I would not have recovered. God worked through those around me - though they had no conscious part of it. After a while I saw that the impossible "coincidences" were a sign of some much larger invisible intelligence - this restored my faith in a higher power. From there the process has never stopped to this day - my life has been an impossible string of events, leading me to places that each has relevance to the other, however - all this was dependent on my ability to see the result of what I asked for. How many people wish to win the lottery but never buy a ticket? If you ask for something - it will be given, but maybe not in the way one expects it, thus you need to keep your eyes and mind open - even though that is hard to do when your in the rut of cyclical emotions - it was the key to me receiving that which I had asked for from a place of pure desperation.
Just my personal anecdote for what it is worth. I have been there.
Everything is process ... and process is goal. My 2 cents.
RunningDeer
22nd August 2012, 19:46
Wishing you well too, Eaglespirit :)
Jeff allowed the awareness of the woman he discusses to come forward by simply listening to Her unconditionally with His Heart through Spirit, imho.
I agree. Our true nature is space - space which allows everthing to arise and be exactly as it is. Jeff has awakened to this true nature, so he naturally provides that space to others.
In contrast, someone who wants to change a situation creates either grasping or resisting and this will in turn create a restrictive environment for the other person to be in and the chances are that their own Awareness will not be able to come forward or expand in that.
I also experienced this personally in January 2007 on that Indian Hill in Dudley, MA. I simply had had enough of the old ways and means after my Son's death and expressed that from my heart openly and verbally to Spirit on that hill...and oh my, did the wonderful happenings start to happen from then on with a helping zap from Sun Spirit
It is an amazing letting go and re-birth of which I feel many are now experiencing in their own ways more than ever.
My experience too was giving up. I didn't do it voluntarily though, it had to be beaten out of me but surrender got me directly in touch with my true nature.
Let go, let God :) I posted about how it happened here the other day here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=540404&viewfull=1#post540404)
Jeanette
Hello Jeanette,
One of your many gifts....You inspire. xo
Love,
Paula
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 20:12
Viral Spiral or Can SOMEONE tell me what the two questions are at 2:30 and 5:30 on the video above? I am dying to find out why I am laughing so hard! (Infectious laughter, the best kind.) :)
The man on the right is telling Jeff of a time when he is a spiritual seeker, going to see the teacher Adyashanti and the questions he was asking him.
The questions are "once the ego has gone will there be a flow of the universe manifesting" and "once your ignorance has gone will you know it has gone"
During the seeking it was very important to have the answers to the questions as it was believed that the answers would help to achieve realisation. After self realisation both the questions and the answers are just irrelevant.
My guess is the joke is they are laughing at how the seeker chases the wrong stuff thinking it is important.
Laughter is infectious.....good to hear you are getting some light relief for yourself. :)
Jeanette
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 20:27
On the topic of sun gazing, I have been doing this for a few days, weather permitting.
I started off with a bit of squinting and shielding but yesterday for the first time I was able to look directly at the sun. When I first looked there was just a mass of yellow with the sun vaguely appearing somewhere in the middle of all the rays spreading out but within about 4 seconds of staring, all the yellow haze just disappeared just like someone switched it off and I could see the sun very clearly. It was like looking at the moon. Cool !
I did it again tonight before sunset and exactly the same thing happened. After a few seconds all the rays around the sun cleared and I got a clear view of the sun and the clouds surrounding it which were hidden in the haze before it disappeared.
I'm up to 20 seconds......and just totally amazed by what I have seen !
Jeanette
another bob
22nd August 2012, 20:33
I did it again tonight before sunset and exactly the same thing happened. After a few seconds all the rays around the sun cleared and I got a clear view of the sun and the clouds surrounding it which were hidden in the haze before it disappeared.
I'm up to 20 seconds......and just totally amazed by what I have seen !
http://i47.tinypic.com/28srgk0.jpg
Jenci
22nd August 2012, 20:55
I did it again tonight before sunset and exactly the same thing happened. After a few seconds all the rays around the sun cleared and I got a clear view of the sun and the clouds surrounding it which were hidden in the haze before it disappeared.
I'm up to 20 seconds......and just totally amazed by what I have seen !
http://i47.tinypic.com/28srgk0.jpg
Yes, like that Bob.
I'm like a kid with a new toy ! :cool:
Marianne
22nd August 2012, 22:44
On the topic of sun gazing, I have been doing this for a few days, weather permitting.
I started off with a bit of squinting and shielding but yesterday for the first time I was able to look directly at the sun. When I first looked there was just a mass of yellow with the sun vaguely appearing somewhere in the middle of all the rays spreading out but within about 4 seconds of staring, all the yellow haze just disappeared just like someone switched it off and I could see the sun very clearly. It was like looking at the moon. Cool !
I did it again tonight before sunset and exactly the same thing happened. After a few seconds all the rays around the sun cleared and I got a clear view of the sun and the clouds surrounding it which were hidden in the haze before it disappeared.
I'm up to 20 seconds......and just totally amazed by what I have seen !
Jeanette
Jenci, I've been sun gazing for a few days too and I'm up to ten seconds still. I have noticed streaming rays, with bits of rainbow-ish colors.
I got a picture of the sun through the trees, the view I have in the west at sunset.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7841039992_8a93803783.jpg
DeDukshyn
22nd August 2012, 23:33
On the topic of sun gazing, I have been doing this for a few days, weather permitting.
I started off with a bit of squinting and shielding but yesterday for the first time I was able to look directly at the sun. When I first looked there was just a mass of yellow with the sun vaguely appearing somewhere in the middle of all the rays spreading out but within about 4 seconds of staring, all the yellow haze just disappeared just like someone switched it off and I could see the sun very clearly. It was like looking at the moon. Cool !
I did it again tonight before sunset and exactly the same thing happened. After a few seconds all the rays around the sun cleared and I got a clear view of the sun and the clouds surrounding it which were hidden in the haze before it disappeared.
I'm up to 20 seconds......and just totally amazed by what I have seen !
Jeanette
Jenci, I've been sun gazing for a few days too and I'm up to ten seconds still. I have noticed streaming rays, with bits of rainbow-ish colors.
I got a picture of the sun through the trees, the view I have in the west at sunset.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7841039992_8a93803783.jpg
Hmmm ... I've only done it a handful of times - one I shared on this thread with some communication form the Sun itself, and I was about a minute ... I feel like a pro now! ;) lol!
Although I did try it once when 1) the sun was too high and 2) I was not in the right frame of mind (I think this is very important) -- that session resulted in me nearly blinding myself and feeling like complete crap after. I haven't done it since, but I sure learned that lesson! What a difference compared to the first few times I tried. I think these are two very important factors.
eaglespirit
23rd August 2012, 00:42
Well, here and now...I am on 'nostalgia building lane' doing that garage for my Sister and Brother-in-law...lumber drop tomorrow---in the pilot's seat now, time to frame away. Will share progress pics as progress progresses : )
Am grateful to have this project as it will fuel my next travels : )
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage001.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage004.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage011.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage008.jpg
eaglespirit
23rd August 2012, 00:46
Backfill and Clean-Up... Done Today
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage017.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage018.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage022.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/1Eagle1/garage016.jpg
ulli
23rd August 2012, 00:59
Thanks for sharing these photos, Dan. Looking forward to reports.
Pouring cement tomorrow?
DeDukshyn
23rd August 2012, 01:04
Wow! nice work! Looks great!
eaglespirit
23rd August 2012, 01:17
Thanks for sharing these photos, Dan. Looking forward to reports.
Pouring cement tomorrow?
Hi Ulli...Happy Evening---or whatever time it is at Your locale : )
I will be framing/building off that stone/gravel so as not to muck up the new garage floor...I will pour the slab for the garage in a few weeks.
The new driveway will be reworked and will be asphalt. The excavating contractor, Corey, has been excellent and will probably do the driveway too.
I think You all will like the design...full hip...I did that so as to integrate an overframe roofline without disturbing the upper existing house much...and of course to keep costs in line.
It's kinda fun and funny being on memory lane like this : )
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Hey DeDukshyn...Thanks!
And You do nice work too : )
DeDukshyn
23rd August 2012, 01:28
Eagle -- I used to do cribbing / formwork so I can appreciate the effort!! (thousands of hand ties later ... ;))
And thanks! I think?! <low self esteem?>
eaglespirit
23rd August 2012, 01:33
Wishing you well too, Eaglespirit :)
Jeff allowed the awareness of the woman he discusses to come forward by simply listening to Her unconditionally with His Heart through Spirit, imho.
I agree. Our true nature is space - space which allows everthing to arise and be exactly as it is. Jeff has awakened to this true nature, so he naturally provides that space to others.
In contrast, someone who wants to change a situation creates either grasping or resisting and this will in turn create a restrictive environment for the other person to be in and the chances are that their own Awareness will not be able to come forward or expand in that.
I also experienced this personally in January 2007 on that Indian Hill in Dudley, MA. I simply had had enough of the old ways and means after my Son's death and expressed that from my heart openly and verbally to Spirit on that hill...and oh my, did the wonderful happenings start to happen from then on with a helping zap from Sun Spirit
It is an amazing letting go and re-birth of which I feel many are now experiencing in their own ways more than ever.
My experience too was giving up. I didn't do it voluntarily though, it had to be beaten out of me but surrender got me directly in touch with my true nature.
Let go, let God :) I posted about how it happened here the other day here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=540404&viewfull=1#post540404)
Jeanette
Read Your life-changing experience over there, Jenci !
Powerful and Beautiful, Thank You : )
Carmody
23rd August 2012, 02:26
Yes, that is a really solid base for a garage. That's 'premium house build' quality, not just some slab with a bit of framing added on the edges. That is good enough that it could be converted into house space at a later date. And it isn't going anywhere...so if it was, shall we say.... connected to the house with walls done in plaster or the like, there are notably lower odds that cracking would occur.
I don't know how to do it, but I do know what I'm looking at, and I'm looking at a properly done bit of foundation. Your bigger problem now, I'm guessing, is going to be getting that gravel to settle well enough to lower the number of micro cracks in the slab.
1inMany
23rd August 2012, 02:32
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Carmody
23rd August 2012, 02:33
Modified milk Ingredients.
It's working, this spreading the word thing.
The premium cheese makers have begun to add a note to their cheese ingredient list: "Contains No Modified Milk Ingredients"
Anchor
23rd August 2012, 02:41
Yes, that is a really solid base for a garage. That's 'premium house build' quality, not just some slab with a bit of framing added on the edges. That is good enough that it could be converted into house space at a later date. And it isn't going anywhere...so if it was, shall we say.... connected to the house with walls done in plaster or the like, there are notably lower odds that cracking would occur.
I don't know how to do it, but I do know what I'm looking at, and I'm looking at a properly done bit of foundation. Your bigger problem now, I'm guessing, is going to be getting that gravel to settle well enough to lower the number of micro cracks in the slab.
Basically whack whack whack. In australia everything is built on slabs. When they have to have gravel like that they use a motorized machine with a vibrating base that pounds everything down. When I saw it, I observed it working like a local earthquake, liquefaction and then the gravel finds its proper level and structure.
When the concrete is poured they insert a vibrating rod into the concrete - that is basically the mother of all vibrators - powered by a fourstroke engine! It looks a bit like a weed whacker - and this "liquefies" the concrete so that it penetrates the top levels of the gravel properly and all the bubbles come up to the top fast - also it finds its own level.
Recently I had a slab put down like this on my farm for a new shed. 100mm thick, rebar reinforced concrete - it is amazingly solid.
Only thing is, concrete is so expensive.
eaglespirit
23rd August 2012, 02:46
Yes, that is a really solid base for a garage. That's 'premium house build' quality, not just some slab with a bit of framing added on the edges. That is good enough that it could be converted into house space at a later date. And it isn't going anywhere...so if it was, shall we say.... connected to the house with walls done in plaster or the like, there are notably lower odds that cracking would occur.
I don't know how to do it, but I do know what I'm looking at, and I'm looking at a properly done bit of foundation. Your bigger problem now, I'm guessing, is going to be getting that gravel to settle well enough to lower the number of micro cracks in the slab.
Hi Carmody...Good Evening to You : )
Corey machine compacted the dirt fill under the stone in three stages...did a diligent job.
http://www.fourstarrental.com/gallery/product_780/vib_compactor.jpg
By working on the stone when I build the human traffic will help settle it more too. The slab will be 3000 psi concrete and will have grated steel mesh in it with sand and plastic under it too...and it is locked in by the foundation also....curing out of the sun(building will be up) helps slow things down and watering a few times as it hardens. This is stuff I use to do all the time so I don't want to take up too much Here and Now...but will respond when things are brought up.
I would like to make a note here that in my spiritual journey 'seeing things before they are created' from my years of building experience has been a powerful asset I am grateful for in my journey...it helps me help in many ways when integrated into day to day connections with Others opening up their Own paths of change. : )
.......
....and there's Anchor too : )
Hi Anchor, Good Evening!
There Ya go...more on hand hands on knowledge.
Construction integrated into the Higher Life coming Our way in the now : )
another bob
23rd August 2012, 02:48
Summertime, Obi Wan cools down a cat:
http://i48.tinypic.com/11tq0yr.gif
1inMany
23rd August 2012, 02:56
Thought I would throw in something to soften up the testosterone...muahahahahahahahaha
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Love you guys :)
astrid
23rd August 2012, 05:28
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Anchor
23rd August 2012, 06:05
Thought I would throw in something to soften up the testosterone...muahahahahahahahaha
Nooooo!!
Here is my baby, a Stihl MS660, this one is a 5.7kW weapon of mass destruction. I also have a MS250 (a baby) and some chainsaw loppers and a cordless chainsaw.
http://static.productreview.com.au/pr.products/t/150x150/99497_stihl_ms_660_magnum.jpg
I love my rural farming lifestyle - the opportunities to use ridiculously dangerous machinery are endless :)
Eram
23rd August 2012, 06:19
On the topic of sun gazing, I have been doing this for a few days, weather permitting.
I started off with a bit of squinting and shielding but yesterday for the first time I was able to look directly at the sun. When I first looked there was just a mass of yellow with the sun vaguely appearing somewhere in the middle of all the rays spreading out but within about 4 seconds of staring, all the yellow haze just disappeared just like someone switched it off and I could see the sun very clearly. It was like looking at the moon. Cool !
I did it again tonight before sunset and exactly the same thing happened. After a few seconds all the rays around the sun cleared and I got a clear view of the sun and the clouds surrounding it which were hidden in the haze before it disappeared.
I'm up to 20 seconds......and just totally amazed by what I have seen !
Jeanette
Jenci, I've been sun gazing for a few days too and I'm up to ten seconds still. I have noticed streaming rays, with bits of rainbow-ish colors.
I got a picture of the sun through the trees, the view I have in the west at sunset.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7841039992_8a93803783.jpg
Hmmm ... I've only done it a handful of times - one I shared on this thread with some communication form the Sun itself, and I was about a minute ... I feel like a pro now! ;) lol!
Although I did try it once when 1) the sun was too high and 2) I was not in the right frame of mind (I think this is very important) -- that session resulted in me nearly blinding myself and feeling like complete crap after. I haven't done it since, but I sure learned that lesson! What a difference compared to the first few times I tried. I think these are two very important factors.
It seems that lots of us have picked up on sun gazing.
How nice!
I'm up to 30 seconds now, but it still very powerful stuff for me. No headaches, but the energy that engulfs me afterwards is almost too much to handle. It is so strong that it feels like there is a physical presence in me.. or near me. It even made me turn around a few times yesterday, to see if there was someone there :P
So I decided to do it only in the mornings for now, so that it will not keep me from my sleep at night.
about being in the right frame of mind...
Purple Lama posted a nice ritual (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=541765&viewfull=1#post541765) about it a few days ago.
ViralSpiral
23rd August 2012, 06:54
I prefer stay distant from the wording surrender..but to use something more akin to terms like 'stop fighting'. To go neutral. Passive. Zero state. Ground floor. Baseline. Cease. And so on. :)
Surrender is not about handing over power, or complacency. Its about space, awareness, openness, unconditionality. Semantics of a powerful "doing".
KMWxsELwEkI
Rumi-Ode 314
Those who don't feel this Love
pulling them like a river,
those who don't drink down
like a cup of spring water
or take in sunset like supper,
those who don't want to change,
let them sleep.
This Love is beyond the study of theology,
that old trickery and hypocrisy.
If you want to improve your mind that way
sleep on.
I've given up on my brain.
I've torn the cloth to shreds
and thrown it away.
If you're not completely naked,
wrap your beautiful robe of words
around you,
and sleep.
Eram
23rd August 2012, 08:18
As a one time fellow programmer, I think I grasp the root of some of his pain; and so was moved to comment.
I am being also nudged by higher anchor to suggest the usual same-old same-old: that he makes a few diet changes - more raw foods, more water, more sleep etc.
If nothing else, remind him he is not alone. Many others like him are doing the same battles. He is not in any way weird in this regard.
Everything happens for a reason.
John..
Higher Anchor is right on the money. I love the idea of a FU fund. I have learned to back off though. He ah, does the exact opposite when I suggest something. I quit suggesting anything about five years ago, and things are better between us.
He really is a go-it-alone guy. I kind of wonder the reason he is actually going to go see a therapist now, is that I've shut up. So he can hear himself now.
As we all know on Avalon, if you polarize people, you will produce the opposite of what you *say* you want lol.
Hi sierra,
So happy to hear that the peak of the crisis seems to be behind you two.
I will keep sending you good vibrations for the days to come.
I used to be the same as you describe your husband. When I was pushed to do something, I dug in my heals and would probably do the opposite.
I had two very dominant parents and my reaction to it was to make myself small and get snowed under. Later in life this was my only way to keep some form of feeling independence.
The only way that worked for my loved ones to offer me a direction was to wrap it in lots and lots of love, understanding and then... when I was receptive... it was possible to (very gently) offer a suggestion (maybe even in a way that I was to believe that I thought of it myself).
Creating a environment where I felt safe was most important to be able to even start considering a new direction, offered by someone else.
edit to add:
It was key, that I felt no charge from the other person in that suggestion. Like it was just a neutral offering of a possible way to go, without the other person had a 'clinging to' whatever I did with it.
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 09:14
10:57 am Warsaw, Poland. Bright sunlight shines through the bottom of my blinds as cars make their usually pass on the street outside of my apartment. I'm laying on my sticky leather couch typing on my iPad, but today is a little bit cooler than it has been lately so the leather is nice and smooth. I just had breakfast and now im relaxing listening to the voices of children playing in the distance, noticing how they're voices are bouncing of the buildings that lead up to the playground around the corner. It's calming. I'm smiling...I'm happy. The air is cool and crisp. I'm thankful to have a partner such as my girlfriend, and I'm thankful for the animals that are near me. All of them love me, and I love all of them. I'm contemplating finishing editing the paper I stayed up late writing last night. Contemplating the rest of my day.
Eram
23rd August 2012, 09:25
10:57 am Warsaw, Poland. Bright sunlight shines through the bottom of my blinds as cars make their usually pass on the street outside of my apartment. I'm laying on my sticky leather couch typing on my iPad, but today is a little but cooler than it has been lately so the leather is nice and smooth. I just had breakfast and now im relaxing listening to the voices of children playing in the distance, notching how they're voices are bouncing of the buildings that lead up to the playground around the corner. It's calming. I'm smiling...I'm happy. The air is cool and crisp. I'm thankful to have a partner such as my girlfriend, and I'm thankful for the animals that are near me. All of them love me, and I love all of them. I'm contemplating finishing editing the paper I stayed up late writing last night. Contemplating the rest of my day.
Hi Veritus,
Welcome in the Village (that's how this thread is referred to sometimes).
The sound of children playing has an energy of it's own doesn't it?
uplifting and rejuvenating when not resisted.
When I lived in Amsterdam, my apartment was next to a elementary school and I swear that their laughter and playing sounds have helped me through some difficult times back then.
Have a wonderful time here at Project Avalon!
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 09:48
Hi WackyTweeky :) thanks for welcoming me. This is a nice place. I enjoy the positivity. Much different than other forums.
Yes the sound of children calm me. To me it's a peaceful energy, no matter how rambunctious they are actually are being. When watching children I find myself either smiling or laughing naturally.
In the page before this one you mention alot about frequencies and energy and matter...these are good thoughts to be having. The answers you may provide for yourself may be very liberating in fact. For myself, I started having these same thoughts a while back and in learning them and their truths, according to the truths of my own perception, I've been led down a path that I feel has enlightened me greatly. The person I am today is far different than who I was a year ago. Honestly, the difference amazes me when I reflect on the progression. And now, at this point, it makes me smile for you. It makes me happy to see and know the changes you will endure and the happiness I know you will find in unraveling those truths. As I'm sure you have already found happiness thus far. As I have as well :)
Jenci
23rd August 2012, 09:58
It seems that lots of us have picked up on sun gazing.
How nice!
I'm up to 30 seconds now, but it still very powerful stuff for me. No headaches, but the energy that engulfs me afterwards is almost too much to handle. It is so strong that it feels like there is a physical presence in me.. or near me. It even made me turn around a few times yesterday, to see if there was someone there :P
So I decided to do it only in the mornings for now, so that it will not keep me from my sleep at night.
about being in the right frame of mind...
Purple Lama posted a nice ritual (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=541765&viewfull=1#post541765) about it a few days ago.
It does seem a few of us are into it now.....brings a whole new meaning to the term sun worshipping !.......although I am topping up the tan right now in the garden :)
I woke up late this morning, the luxury of school holidays and it was 7.45am when I got outside. I don't actually see the sunrise/sunset here because of the houses and trees in the way but I try to catch the sun at its lowest. This morning the sun was already higher than where I normally gaze at it and instinct told me not to try.
Maybe later this evening........
Lovely picture Marriane and welcome to PA and the villiage Veritus.
Jeanette
Eram
23rd August 2012, 10:05
This morning the sun was already higher than where I normally gaze at it and instinct told me not to try.
Maybe later this evening........
Jeanette
There are people like my dad who do sun gazing during the day while almost closing their eyes , so they have their eye lashes act as a filter.
Looking at the sun through a tree or using your fingers to block of part of it's light is also used.
It's a solution for when one's agenda or location of living doesn't allow for sun gazing during the hour after sunrise or the hour before sun set.
Jenci
23rd August 2012, 10:21
There are people like my dad who do sun gazing during the day while almost closing their eyes , so they have their eye lashes act as a filter.
Looking at the sun through a tree or using your fingers to block of part of it's light is also used.
It's a solution for when one's agenda or location of living doesn't allow for sun gazing during the hour after sunrise or the hour before sun set.
Thanks, Waky. That's good to bear in mind.
Although I noticed a difference to my first few attempts at squinting at the sun compared to when I started staring at it directly with eyes wide open. As I posted yesterday, this amazing thing happened where everything cleared around the sun giving me a crystal clear view of it.
From what I have been reading, the recommendation is to gradually build up the time to get used to looking at the sun to avoid any damage and that those who have been doing this for some time are able to look at it much higher in the sky.
Jeanette
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 10:31
Thank you for the welcome Jeanette :) I'm glad you brought up sun-gazing...
I've always wanted to ask someone if they see the colors I see when sun-gazing. I've heard and read a lot of info on the subject but not much in terms of what is actually being seen optically during the moments of sun-gazing.
Does anyone else see the sun pulse out in colors? Everytime I have sun-gazed, usually after about 3-5 min, a soft violet starts to grow over the natural color of the sun and then it eventually starts becoming dark violet pulses on a pinkish background. Then the colors begin morphing and sometimes the colors switch. I see all colors really, at different intervals as well. For some really intense colors it depends on the length of sun exposure.
Does anyone else see this?
eaglespirit
23rd August 2012, 10:51
Welcome Veritus....Great to have You joining in Here and Now.
I have lots of hours of wonderful sungazing meditations over these 5 1/2+ years...those color phenomena You mention still experienced now : )
It IS a wonderful and mystic and uplifting connection...everyone just listen to Their Heart and gaze and connect and meditate accordingly : )
Here are a couple pics taken by Friends in Peru in 2010 while I am Connecting at a 'higher' mode...once again understand I have been doing this daily and regularly as a 'primary' connection for many hours...well over 1300 to this day here and now !
Enjoy the Mystic Wonder : )
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/32238_387444825926_4775367_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/41092_10150257486945177_1546963_n.jpg
In the second pic I had been looking at the later morning sun and was having a gratitude prayer with eyes closed after a shamanic ceremony there.
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 11:18
Thank you eaglespirit for your welcome :) I'm glad to be here.
Nice pictures, where are they taken if you don't mind me asking?
Yes, the colors have seemed to naturally become my point of reference when it comes to focus. What I have noticed is that after the pinkish/violet it slowly morphs to like a silvery green/blue. & Sometimes, when I have a lot on my mind, and my focus isn't as strong as I'd like for it to be, when "other" thoughts begin to cloud my clarity the colors will morph back down to the pinkish/violet and its almost as if I have to start all over again. It could be just me, but when I do succeed in prolonging my clarity the colors begin to change and become more vivid, as deeper thoughts of my beingness become more profound.
I'm really curious if anyone else can help me understand these things or if anyone else is experiencing this as sun-gazing is fairly new to me.
Marianne
23rd August 2012, 11:24
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Thanks for posting Tom's Pele Report, Astrid.
Virgo influence. 'No matter what happens, it's OK by me.'
Unconditionally loving whatever happens.
Jenci
23rd August 2012, 11:46
Thank you eaglespirit for your welcome :) I'm glad to be here.
Nice pictures, where are they taken if you don't mind me asking?
Yes, the colors have seemed to naturally become my point of reference when it comes to focus. What I have noticed is that after the pinkish/violet it slowly morphs to like a silvery green/blue. & Sometimes, when I have a lot on my mnd, and my focus isn't as strong as I'd like for it to be, when "other" thoughts begin to cloud my clarity the colors will morph back down to the pinkish/violet and its almost as if I have to start all over again. It could be just me, but when I do succeed in prolonging my clarity the colors begin to change and become more vivid, as deeper thoughts of my beingness become more profound.
I'm really curious if anyone else can help me understand these things or if anyone else is experiencing this as sun-gazing is fairly new to me.
I wonder if this explains it......
From http://solarhealing.com/sungazing/
We have a super computer in our bodies given to us by the nature, which is our brain. HRM (Hira Ratan Manek) calls it the “brainutor”. The brain is more powerful than the most advanced super computer. Each and every human being is gifted with innumerable talents, and infinite inherent powers by nature. Individuals should never underestimate themselves. Everyone is gifted. If we make use of these powers we can take ourselves to great levels. Unfortunately, these infinite inherent powers are programmed in that part of the brain that is largely dormant and goes unused. Even medical science agrees we hardly make use of the brain but about 5-7% – the most brilliant of humans like Albert Einstein is reported to have used only about 32% of their brains.
If we can activate the human brain and awaken these infinite powers inherent in ourselves then we can raise ourselves to higher levels. We can achieve any results we want. In order to operate the brain effectively, it needs to be activated. Being a holistic entity it needs a holistic power supply. Sun energy is the source that powers the brain, which can enter and leave the human body or the brain only through one organ that is the human eye. Eyes are the Sun Energy’s entry door to the human brain. They are also known as the windows of the soul. Recent research has found out that the eye has many functions other than vision. And more information is continuing to be revealed about the functions of the eye. The eyes are complex organs and they have 5 billion parts much more than a spacecraft that has about 6-7 million parts. By this, you can see the immense capacity of the human eye.
HRM asserts that the rainbow is in the eye not in the sky. The seven colors of the sun is only the reflection of what is in the eye. We can create a rainbow anytime we want – go to the garden, just observe below a source of flowing water as the sun moves above. There you will see the rainbow. Eye can receive the entire spectrum of the sunlight. It’s like having a glass window. Eye is the perfect instrument to receive all the colors of the rainbow. Since eyes are delicate parts of the body, we have to use them in such a way that they serve our purposes without getting damaged. Present day teachings and ideas such as don’t look at the sunlight at all --you will damage your eyesight; never go out in the sun as you will get cancer, are causing needless hysteria and paranoia. The more you are away from the nature, the more there is a cause for illness and you will automatically support global corporations. There are definite foolproof ways of getting the benefits of the nature without exposing ourselves to its adverse effects. It is also as intuitive as when the clouds gather we become gloomy. When we see the sun, we feel energetic.
ulli
23rd August 2012, 12:02
Thought I would throw in something to soften up the testosterone...muahahahahahahahaha
Nooooo!!
Here is my baby, a Stihl MS660, this one is a 5.7kW weapon of mass destruction. I also have a MS250 (a baby) and some chainsaw loppers and a cordless chainsaw.
http://static.productreview.com.au/pr.products/t/150x150/99497_stihl_ms_660_magnum.jpg
I love my rural farming lifestyle - the opportunities to use ridiculously dangerous machinery are endless :)
Costa Rica law requires a permit for chainsaw ownership, believe it or not.
One of those ridiculous laws that never gets enforced.
Although, come to think of it, the government is making giant strides in law enforcement,
especially in the construction sector.
Lucrative work for a government employee in Latinoland.
Anyone wants to get rich quick - come to Costa Rica and get a job in law enforcement....
just don't get caught when you are offered those huge bribes...
Jenci
23rd August 2012, 12:21
I found this on sun gazing and it explains exactly what I am noticing a change in appearance at about 4 seconds in (in bold text). Also, for you Waky it says that once a day may be enough.
Jeanette
From http://www.sungazing.com/index.php?p=1_5_How-to-Sungaze
If you chose to embark upon the journey of sungazing, please heed the advice that slow and steady wins the race. I do not recommend this practice to anyone. If the sun seems or feels to bright, well then, don’t look at. If you chose to partake, be very careful, take your time, be cautious, be humble and document your progress.
You can damage your eyes from sungazing, just as you can burn your feet from walking on fire. I have participated in both practices, my feet and my vision are in perfect working order. We are all wired a bit differently; therefore it is impossible to predict how each individual will process the suns brilliant light. If you wish to partake, by all means enjoy the daily practice. Truly embrace the beginning (or ending) of the day. Feel all the joy the sun has to offer…and of course, if it amuses you to wear a purple top hat while sungazing; then by all means, make it a beauty.
Remember this the information here is not set in stone, it is simply one man’s suggestion. In fact, this is my interpretation of a man’s suggestion. Depending on life style and location every person may carve out their own form of sungazing. Understand that because of the many differences to take into consideration, the results will most likely be different as well. And that is ok, whatever experiences you experience are still yours and yours alone.
HRM's Protocol
Depending on the weather and the level of commitment this is only a nine month to a year practice. Once you reach 44 minutes of sungazing you are finished. You should not have the need to stare at the sun any longer, your sungazing is complete.
Sungazing is to be practiced standing bare footed on bare earth.
Without shoes you can stand on sand, gravel, mud, or bare earth. Your bare feet should be in contact with the bare earth. Try to avoid standing on tar, concrete, granite, stone or even on grass (the grass absorbs the solar energy). If you happen to stand on any other surfaces, that is fine, the results may simply be a bit different or arrive a bit slower.
While the sun is low on the horizon the intensity of the rays will be at a minimum.
During this time, the sun's rays are tolerable, and the UV radiation is lower, so the potential of harming your eyes is lower. Use common sense within these parameters, if the sun is too bright and it feels as though it may be burning your eyes, don't stare at it. The best time to learn about your limits is right as the sun rises or a minute or so before it sets. According to HRM the sunrise holds more energy, vitamins and minerals then the sunset. Go figure.
Personally I recommend the sunrise, energetically it is a beautiful balance of yin and yang. You only need the sunrise or the sunset, both may be a bit much. By rushing about you will not find what you are looking for any faster. Be careful and always listen to your body.
To Begin As the sun rises over the horizon simply gaze at the whole glowing ball of light for 10 seconds only. The key is to be relaxed, just like in mediation, let go of all thoughts and become immersed in the moment. Simply, look at it. No stress or strain on the face, facial muscles or eyes. Relax your jaw. Stand at peace, knees bent with your arms at your sides. Let go.
If you choose to get up with the chickens, and try gazing at the rising sun. Stay relaxed and receptive for greater assimilation of the beneficial aspects of the sun's rays.
Try to become aware of what your body is feeling, how is your mental, emotional and physical state as the sun fills every atom, every electron, and every cell in your body. Feel every tissue filled with the regenerative and healing properties that the sunlight imparts on your body. You may notice an amazing increase in your overall energy as well as your physical stamina and positivism. Be aware of how the sunlight actually cleanses and rebuilds the whole of your being, your mind and thoughts, your feelings and your physical body; total rejuvenation. By completely surrendering to the suns greater power, and as the minutes of sungazing increase, the awareness of your energetic being may heighten dramatically.
There is no need to maintain an unblinking, stare. Blink as and when it naturally happens, sort of like watching television. For the first few moments you look into the sun it may be very bright, after about 3-7 seconds of continuous gazing all the brightness generally goes away and you are left staring into a soft ball of pure white light; a beautiful pulsing orb.
Don’t squint. If you feel yourself squinting, relax the muscles in your face and eyes. Let the light in.
The more open and relaxed the muscles are in your body the more oxygen and energy is able to flow within your cells, and then more light will be allowed in.
You have at your disposal an incredible amount of electricity to make things happen in your world. With the aid of sunlight, you can recharge each cell and atom to its full potential.
Increase the time you gaze at the sun by a few seconds each day - say by 5 seconds or so per day, until you are comfortable and relaxed with the entire concept of staring into the sun.
Once you are comfortable with the concept of sungazing feel free to increase gazing time at a constant rate of 10 seconds per day. You may find it helpful to get a watch or employ a friend to keep tabs on your staring time. Subtle slow increments of time are important for allowing for the rods and cones within the anatomical structure of the eye to adapt to the intense levels light.
Increase the sungazing time by 10 seconds each day until you have reached 44 minutes, at which point you should be fully charged. At 44 minutes you are finished with the HRM’s method of sungazing. Depending on weather this may only take nine or ten months.
What to Expect
Sungazing can be used as a tool for tapping into your human potential. Some change will occur to reach these peaks; your perceptions may alter circumstances, you may begin to change from the inside out. Change can be uncomfortable. Nonetheless, when we release our physical and emotional energetic blockages these changes will become trivial relative to the incredible expansiveness of the universe. If at least three months are committed to the sungazing practice (reaching 15 minutes of staring time) some sort of change of your perception of your world will occur.
We are all energetic beings, vibrating at different frequencies, so we should be comfortable with the concept that all of us are different. There may be many different reactions, sensations and experiences. Remember, whatever happens to you is perfect. It is yours and yours only. At every turn there are lessons to be learned. It may be helpful to become objective in your approach to life, awareness may prove to be an essential ingredient. Be positive and open-minded; feel all there is to feel.
Sungazing causes hungers to diminish? There are many theories, all of which include understanding the power of light, and the more subtle mechanisms of the pineal gland, not to mention quantum physics. How is it possible?
Jenci
23rd August 2012, 12:27
Speaking of chainsaws I went to Knebworth House and Gardens on Sunday for a family picnic. They had beautiful carvings out of wood for sale made by chainsaws. Great to watch but very noisy
http://www.knebworthevents.co.uk/knebblog2010/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/carving-demo1-1024x874.jpg
They were building a treehouse - it was up for sale for Ł15,000.:shocked:
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 12:33
Wow! Thank you so much Jeanette :) That sparked an idea in my mind that I'm going to start researching right now. I'm currently reading Walter Russell and his explanations of the universe and how he explains that most of what we understand in science is wrong, or is only half right. He explains that most of our conceptions and perceptions of everything is an illusion, including light. He explains that what we think is light is not actually light but that it's light being illuminated and that light is already present, even in the dark. In fact he explains in scientific detail that all we are, and all that is, is light. Certain pressures and conditions give form to the illusion of matter and to the misconception of light as we think currently think of it. This gives me the thought that what we might be seeing when we "gaze" is not actually light from the sun per se, but the electromagnetic radiation reflection of ourselves in the light that we already are...possibly peering through barriers of dimensional static that govern the dimensions of existence. Our eyes have followed a natural progression of evolution in terms of their function and abilities, but to what end? It seems plausible that they already hold much more capabilities than we currently think they do, and "gazing" may be one form of understanding those abilities and capabilities with a parallel bi-product of understanding and discovering ourselves and our unknown capabilities. I'm sorry if I'm just bleeding out the brain at the moment and blabbering. In any case thanks Jeanette! Its an amazing thing when your able to inspire others by small and simple actions, and I thank you :)
Playdo of Ataraxas
23rd August 2012, 13:54
When I lived in Amsterdam
Hey Waky,
Your post made me nostalgic for the time I lived as a squatter in Den Bosch. I really miss the wonderful, mooi Dutch people, the best cheese in the world, and the beer! I still have great friends in Den Bosch, maybe I'll make it back one day.....
benevolentcrow
23rd August 2012, 14:23
Started a new adventure, a business partnership with both my daughters. We are planning on setting up at a vintage event in October. Lots of preparation.
Should be a lot of fun. Interesting as well, sometime the three of us are not even reading the same book much less being on the same page. Generation gap I suppose.
They have decided to call the new business Revel & Fancy. My ideas of Barnstorming Betty or Tenderly Tarnished were quickly poo pooed!
Hope to be hitting the cash barn soon :) Thanks Ulli for making it available to us all!
They chose the 1893 Chicago Worlds Fair Ferris Wheel as a logo. My years of graphic design experience comes in handy still.
To all of you lovely folks have a good day. Welcome to the new faces!
PurpleLama
23rd August 2012, 14:33
Once again this magician stands in awe and gratitude of the universe, it's pattern of synchronicity never misses a (bass) beat! Seeing the flow, I Am humbled.
"we rejoice in the love light and unity of the one infinite creator
we give thanks for the peace, protection, mercy, and blessing that is being offered to us at this time"
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 15:22
5:13 pm, back home now. Fully belly, grilled cheese always does the trick. Wheels still spinning. The extra photons in the air brightens the buildings outside my window, giving my apartment a nice naturally lit feel even at the setting of the sun. Think I'll gaze for a while, listen to some music, n love on my kitty.
@benevolentcrow, I really like "Revel & Fancy", it's catchy and fits the theme :) good idea and good luck
Mark
23rd August 2012, 16:11
LOL Sorry about the 18000 Ulli, I wasn't even paying attention. A nice, round #! Don't worry, 19000 is right around the corner!
Je Tsong Khapa, who founded the Gelugpa Sect of Tibetan Buddhism, noted that "A female companion is the basis of accomplishment of liberation." I'd second that emotion. Of course, he was speaking as a male, ensconced in a patriarchal system, but I would suggest it works both ways. Then again, I've heard it said: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bycicle." Whoever said that was probably not much into the supreme and marvelous esoteric tantra, however, and so represents a somewhat provisional pov.
So what's the dealy-o with the monks and nuns? Maybe they companion each other through friendship? From the patriarchial view, maybe a female companion is good for someone doing all that meditating and inner searching because she'll make certain he's got food in his belly and that he gets up and washes his a*s when he gets a bit funkalicious and too high up in the clouds.
Liberation or not, a man needs a woman. IMHO.
Ok, back to catching up with the rest of the village ... may be back. Oh, here and now, finally got an e-reader and am no longer shackled to the laptop (imagine that, it was just a few years ago when we were shackled to desktops), just finished DL'ing Bill's e-books, so now I have almost 300 texts to enjoy. That should keep me busy for a couple of months. :)
benevolentcrow
23rd August 2012, 16:22
5:13 pm, back home now. Fully belly, grilled cheese always does the trick. Wheels still spinning. The extra photons in the air brightens the buildings outside my window, giving my apartment a nice naturally lit feel even at the setting of the sun. Think I'll gaze for a while, listen to some music, n love on my kitty.
@benevolentcrow, I really like "Revel & Fancy", it's catchy and fits the theme :) good idea and good luck
Thanks Veritus. The name is growing on me. There are so many cute names out there, Farm & Frills, Rust & Ruffles, Vintage Rabbit, Tarte, Barn House, Urban Chicks, Farmgirls, the list goes on...
My favorite, grilled cheese & tomato soup!
Welcome new friend to the Village, keep the old, one is silver the other gold...
another bob
23rd August 2012, 16:34
LOL Sorry about the 18000 Ulli, I wasn't even paying attention. A nice, round #! Don't worry, 19000 is right around the corner!
Je Tsong Khapa, who founded the Gelugpa Sect of Tibetan Buddhism, noted that "A female companion is the basis of accomplishment of liberation." I'd second that emotion. Of course, he was speaking as a male, ensconced in a patriarchal system, but I would suggest it works both ways. Then again, I've heard it said: "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bycicle." Whoever said that was probably not much into the supreme and marvelous esoteric tantra, however, and so represents a somewhat provisional pov.
So what's the dealy-o with the monks and nuns?
They are preparing themselves in this life so that they can be good spouses in the next -- sort of like the old saying, "Saving yourself for the right one".
Liberation or not, a man needs a woman. IMHO.
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Sierra
23rd August 2012, 16:40
Welcome new friend to the Village, keep the old, one is silver the other gold...
Make new friends, but keep the old
One is silver and the other's gold ...
You wuz a girl scout? :)
Veritus, welcome to the Village.
My husband is doing so well. Going to work today (going as in going downstairs, he goes to work onsite one week out of six).
This is a big deal. :) I just know you had something to do with it. Thank you Village. :grouphug:
Sierra
Playdo of Ataraxas
23rd August 2012, 16:42
Funny synchronicity with all the discussion about sun gazing. My co-worker, who is rather orthodox, came in to work today and said she saw a video last night about, you guessed it, sun gazing and was gonna give it a try! Ha!
Ever heard of a chimera cat. Me neither. Check this out: http://www.geekologie.com/2012/08/pretty-kitty-chimera-cat-is-its-own-frat.php
another bob
23rd August 2012, 16:53
Funny synchronicity with all the discussion about sun gazing...
At the core of my being, there is a light that shines brighter than a thousand suns. When I fall into that radiance, there is no me or you or anything, and yet the whole universe is filled with unspeakable bliss. Within this sun there are many beings performing a puja that we have no fancy name for, and yet its effects can be felt by all birds and bees that happily fly into the light and dissolve there in sheer ecstasy. For just one taste of this joy, angels happily incarnate as various forum members so that they can read about it and remember. In the moment of their remembrance, a great hush falls upon the Village, immediately followed by a rising chant of synchronous praise for the sheer wonder of appearing at all, surrounded as we are by ourselves in our various forms of you and me and everyone simultaneously! Hey Jude!
Mark
23rd August 2012, 16:55
Hi, welcome, Veritus, about the colors:
I often see the violet haze surrounding the sun and if you watch it closely, you will notice that it undulates, moving out and in, growing larger and smaller. If that color changes, it turns into a greenish color and the same thing happens. Sometimes I see an entire rainbow but it's generally around the outer edges of the corona and only lasts a short time. Jenci, after a few seconds of watching, when the brightness abrupty disappears, a disc generally obscures the sun for me, it's the same as when you look at a lightbulb and look away, the after-image is there, so when I look at the sun, when the brightness disappears, it is because the afterimage is over the sun, so the sun itself is obscured by the sun. LOL what's funny is, sometimes, in that darker after-image, i see light holes and lines, much like sunspots or other eruptions. Strange stuff, but certainly interesting and the energy that pulses through the body directly after the gazing can be intense! It's like going to sleep in the sun but concentrated ... a shorter time period but just as intense an effect!
Eaglespirit, it's good to see a pic of you finally! Respect!
Playdo of Ataraxas
23rd August 2012, 17:04
Fun numerical synchronicity on this page. I'm in CST, for what it's worth. Look at Rahkyt's post at the top, posted at 11:11, number 18121. And then BC's following post at 11:22, number 18122. And then later on Rahkyt posted again at 11:55. Fun stuff.
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 19:11
5:13 pm, back home now. Fully belly, grilled cheese always does the trick. Wheels still spinning. The extra photons in the air brightens the buildings outside my window, giving my apartment a nice naturally lit feel even at the setting of the sun. Think I'll gaze for a while, listen to some music, n love on my kitty.
@benevolentcrow, I really like "Revel & Fancy", it's catchy and fits the theme :) good idea and good luck
Thanks Veritus. The name is growing on me. There are so many cute names out there, Farm & Frills, Rust & Ruffles, Vintage Rabbit, Tarte, Barn House, Urban Chicks, Farmgirls, the list goes on...
My favorite, grilled cheese & tomato soup!
Welcome new friend to the Village, keep the old, one is silver the other gold...
Thank you benevolentcrow. Mmm tomato soup, now that's tempting. Well I still think you did well with your daughters, "Revel & Fancy" just has a certain classy ring to it :)
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Welcome new friend to the Village, keep the old, one is silver the other gold...
Make new friends, but keep the old
One is silver and the other's gold ...
You wuz a girl scout? :)
Veritus, welcome to the Village.
My husband is doing so well. Going to work today (going as in going downstairs, he goes to work onsite one week out of six).
This is a big deal. :) I just know you had something to do with it. Thank you Village. :grouphug:
Sierra
Thank you Sierra. It is really nice to be here. Everyone is so nice and welcoming, and helpful. Good luck to you and your family :)
Jenci
23rd August 2012, 19:54
He explains that what we think is light is not actually light but that it's light being illuminated and that light is already present, even in the dark. In fact he explains in scientific detail that all we are, and all that is, is light. Certain pressures and conditions give form to the illusion of matter and to the misconception of light as we think currently think of it. This gives me the thought that what we might be seeing when we "gaze" is not actually light from the sun per se, but the electromagnetic radiation reflection of ourselves in the light that we already are...possibly peering through barriers of dimensional static that govern the dimensions of existence.
There's some interesting thinking there, Veritus. Good to hear another scientific confirmation of what we already know as well :)
Jeanette
Whiskey_Mystic
23rd August 2012, 20:04
I thought this might amuse some of you. Saw it today in the game Simcity Social
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i157/SealJuice/BBGroup.jpg
benevolentcrow
23rd August 2012, 20:17
Welcome new friend to the Village, keep the old, one is silver the other gold...
Make new friends, but keep the old
One is silver and the other's gold ...
You wuz a girl scout? :)
Veritus, welcome to the Village.
My husband is doing so well. Going to work today (going as in going downstairs, he goes to work onsite one week out of six).
This is a big deal. :) I just know you had something to do with it. Thank you Village. :grouphug:
Sierra
Sierra, can't pull the wool over your eyes, yes I was in the girl scouts! So was my daughters. I was also a den mother for my son's cub scout troop. Good clean fun for young kids, no tech products involved. Outdoors, camping, skits, and crafts. Some good things you never forget :)
Eram
23rd August 2012, 20:21
When I lived in Amsterdam
Hey Waky,
Your post made me nostalgic for the time I lived as a squatter in Den Bosch. I really miss the wonderful, mooi Dutch people, the best cheese in the world, and the beer! I still have great friends in Den Bosch, maybe I'll make it back one day.....
Here is some more nostalgia for you Playdo.
http://www.voedingonline.nl/uploaded/IMAGES/Spreekwoorden/kaas.jpg
http://www.getevents.nl/sites/default/files/utrecht%20Hou%20van%20Holland%20boot%201.png
http://www.horziksehoeve.nl/denbosch%20grote%20markt.jpg
I actually lived as squat prevention for some time in Amsterdam :) (means to live in similar circumstances, pay a small monthly fee, but with the agreement with the owner to leave the building when asked for)
Holland is famous for squatting, although new laws are trying to end it... sadly.
Dennis Leahy
23rd August 2012, 21:25
...My husband is doing so well....
This is a big deal. :)
Sierra
This is a BIG smile:
:~)
Dennis
Veritus
23rd August 2012, 21:40
Hi, welcome, Veritus, about the colors:
I often see the violet haze surrounding the sun and if you watch it closely, you will notice that it undulates, moving out and in, growing larger and smaller. If that color changes, it turns into a greenish color and the same thing happens. Sometimes I see an entire rainbow but it's generally around the outer edges of the corona and only lasts a short time. Jenci, after a few seconds of watching, when the brightness abrupty disappears, a disc generally obscures the sun for me, it's the same as when you look at a lightbulb and look away, the after-image is there, so when I look at the sun, when the brightness disappears, it is because the afterimage is over the sun, so the sun itself is obscured by the sun. LOL what's funny is, sometimes, in that darker after-image, i see light holes and lines, much like sunspots or other eruptions. Strange stuff, but certainly interesting and the energy that pulses through the body directly after the gazing can be intense! It's like going to sleep in the sun but concentrated ... a shorter time period but just as intense an effect!
Nice, thanks for the input Rahkyt. And the welcome. But then why does the color seem to depend on my clarity? I've noticed that when I relax myself and my mind I can go all the way to blue on a yellow background, and then sometimes when I distract myself it goes back to green, or if I just lose it altogether, all the way back down to pink. As I said, it could be just me. In any case, I do feel greatful for all the input :)
Sierra
23rd August 2012, 21:40
My husband just went to his first therapy appointment. Regardless of how it goes or what the therapist is like, he is asking for help. He went. He went.
I know, I'm repeating myself. I don't know whether to be terrified or delighted.
Please keep us in your thoughts, intents and prayers.
Sierra (heaving a deep sigh) (on the verge of tears again dammit)
Anchor
23rd August 2012, 22:15
Look after yourself Sierra.
Marianne
23rd August 2012, 22:58
Big squashy hugs to you and Hubby, Sierra. Holding you both in the strong power of Love which always prevails.
Whiskey, that bilderberger thingy is funny. How you are doing at your new job? Hope it's going awesome for you!
Dennis, your BIG smile is the best!
Great pictures, Eaglespirit ... the sun/Peru ones and the garage ones. We'll be looking for regular updates now!
Welcome to the village, Veritus! You've only been here a day, and it feels like you've always been here. Very nice.
Jenci, you inspire me.
benevolentcrow
23rd August 2012, 23:18
My husband just went to his first therapy appointment. Regardless of how it goes or what the therapist is like, he is asking for help. He went. He went.
I know, I'm repeating myself. I don't know whether to be terrified or delighted.
Please keep us in your thoughts, intents and prayers.
Sierra (heaving a deep sigh) (on the verge of tears again dammit)
May God our creator have Amazing Grace for you and your loved ones. Big warm and comforting bear hugs to you!
DeDukshyn
23rd August 2012, 23:27
He explains that what we think is light is not actually light but that it's light being illuminated and that light is already present, even in the dark. In fact he explains in scientific detail that all we are, and all that is, is light. Certain pressures and conditions give form to the illusion of matter and to the misconception of light as we think currently think of it. This gives me the thought that what we might be seeing when we "gaze" is not actually light from the sun per se, but the electromagnetic radiation reflection of ourselves in the light that we already are...possibly peering through barriers of dimensional static that govern the dimensions of existence.
There's some interesting thinking there, Veritus. Good to hear another scientific confirmation of what we already know as well :)
Jeanette
Some (non-physical) beings find it absolutely fascinating that we interpret light as illumination. They see it as a form of communication and information. Third party info - I didn't actually talk to these beings, but if they want to have a chat ... ;) ;)
Also I think, as Veritus was saying, our physical world is manifest from light. Matter is a static form of information.
benevolentcrow
23rd August 2012, 23:28
Someday soon the veil will lift and we all can clearly see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYMLMj-SibU
ulli
23rd August 2012, 23:40
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
ViralSpiral
23rd August 2012, 23:52
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Oh wow!
Holding you in my thoughts Ulli
((hugs))
Marianne
24th August 2012, 00:12
Ulli, sending you Love ... have courage.
Life always changes ... I hope you can or will soon see good things on the horizon. You never know what the Universe has in store for you.
The Ho'oponopono Prayer To Make Things Right
I love you.
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
Thank you.
Veritus
24th August 2012, 00:15
My husband just went to his first therapy appointment. Regardless of how it goes or what the therapist is like, he is asking for help. He went. He went.
I know, I'm repeating myself. I don't know whether to be terrified or delighted.
Please keep us in your thoughts, intents and prayers.
Sierra (heaving a deep sigh) (on the verge of tears again dammit)
If I can offer my humble opinion, alongside my sympathy without knowing the particulars...
you said you don't know whether to be terrified or delighted...
It seems to me that maybe one of the best approaches to this would to be delighted. Be delighted that you still have him in your presence, as well as be delighted in knowing that he must feel the same about you and your presence. Be delighted that the tears you just cried are already in the past and every tear you shed have no choice but to become the waters that help bring you one moment closer to never having to shed those tears again for those reasons. Be delighted that you have something to shed tears about, for they come forth out of love. But most of all, be delighted in knowing that everything is moving in the right direction, no matter the outcome...that the love you have to transcend (whether they be in the form of tears or otherwise) is purely understood by others outside of yourself, even if to help you realize that inside you are ultimately happy.
benevolentcrow
24th August 2012, 00:16
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Hope you feel you have a safety net here in the Village now that you have taken a leap of faith... Wishing the very best for you!
Veritus
24th August 2012, 00:34
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Wow, talk about synchronicity... my girlfriend and I was just talking about how today that same exact thing happened to me a year ago today (well yesterday technically now). I sold my car and all my belongings, moved out of my townhouse, and hopped on a plane in Houston, Texas and left the US. I ended up in Rome, Italy and never looked back. Don't worry, nothing great comes without risk.
ulli
24th August 2012, 00:43
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Wow, talk about synchronicity... my girlfriend and I was just talking about how today that same exact thing happened to me a year ago today (well yesterday technically now). I sold my car and all my belongings, moved out of my townhouse, and hopped on a plane in Houston, Texas and left the US. I ended up in Rome, Italy and never looked back. Don't worry, nothing great comes without risk.
Actually, this is more about risk reduction.
For the last few years I have been living in two countries.
My husband and my cats are in Costa Rica, but my son and grandsons are in Barbados.
Three round trips a year, rent, bills, ...geez...
returning here in January only to be faced by another set of bills, like road tax, car insurance...
and in this economic climate. The kids will have to come to Costa Rica instead.
Hey, they might love the white water rafting...trips are launched daily right there in our property on the Rio Grande.
What was the old saying again, about Mohammed and the mountain?
http://mychinaconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mohammed-to-the-mountain.jpg
astrid
24th August 2012, 00:56
Having issues trying to synch my time with the time that other ppl seem to be on.
Missing classes and generally having many "Mr Bean" moments .
All is ok, its just a well weird phase i am in ,
or should i call it out of phase i am in.
Always good reasons for most things,
so just going with it to see where it leads.
So apologies for my lack of engagement of late,
I'm still here, but just not able to mix with the crowd right now.
Carmody
24th August 2012, 01:03
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Wow, talk about synchronicity... my girlfriend and I was just talking about how today that same exact thing happened to me a year ago today (well yesterday technically now). I sold my car and all my belongings, moved out of my townhouse, and hopped on a plane in Houston, Texas and left the US. I ended up in Rome, Italy and never looked back. Don't worry, nothing great comes without risk.
Actually, this is more about risk reduction.
For the last few years I have been living in two countries.
My husband and my cats are in Costa Rica, but my son and grandsons are in Barbados.
Three round trips a year, rent, bills, ...geez...
returning here in January only to be faced by another set of bills, like road tax, car insurance...
and in this economic climate. The kids will have to come to Costa Rica instead.
Hey, they might love the white water rafting...trips are launched daily right there in our property on the Rio Grande.
What was the old saying again, about Mohammed and the mountain?
http://mychinaconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mohammed-to-the-mountain.jpg
Just before I came into the house, started up the computer..and then went to this thread...in those prior moments, this tune came to mind and on playback in my mind.
I find the synchronicities in coming out in music, most times.
4RDklNBzv5Y
Dennis Leahy
24th August 2012, 01:08
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.Wow, Ulli, that's huge. I trust you are on your perfect path...but that does not discount the emotions you're feeling.
Dennis
ulli
24th August 2012, 01:19
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Wow, talk about synchronicity... my girlfriend and I was just talking about how today that same exact thing happened to me a year ago today (well yesterday technically now). I sold my car and all my belongings, moved out of my townhouse, and hopped on a plane in Houston, Texas and left the US. I ended up in Rome, Italy and never looked back. Don't worry, nothing great comes without risk.
Actually, this is more about risk reduction.
For the last few years I have been living in two countries.
My husband and my cats are in Costa Rica, but my son and grandsons are in Barbados.
Three round trips a year, rent, bills, ...geez...
returning here in January only to be faced by another set of bills, like road tax, car insurance...
and in this economic climate. The kids will have to come to Costa Rica instead.
Hey, they might love the white water rafting...trips are launched daily right there in our property on the Rio Grande.
What was the old saying again, about Mohammed and the mountain?
http://mychinaconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mohammed-to-the-mountain.jpg
Just before I came into the house, started up the computer..and then went to this thread...in those prior moments, this tune came to mind and on playback in my mind.
I find the synchronicities in coming out in music, most times.
4RDklNBzv5Y
I was living in Notting Hill Gate in London went I first visited Barbados. That was in 1974. Had been on business in New York and couldn't face
(there's that word again) returning back to the office in London.
So I thought 'what the hell, why not go to go to the Caribbean for a week?'
Booked a week in Barbados...and at JFK I bought a paperback which I opened on the plane. It was Cats Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut.
And the first sentence I read was about sitting on a plane and flying to the Caribbean island of San Lorenzo.
The synchronicities have never ceased.
Nanoo Nanoo
24th August 2012, 01:20
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Make sure you drink lots of pina colada, i heard it helps :-)
http://m.youtube.com/?reload=4&rdm=m97jn45qa#/watch?feature=plpp&v=IMVir-A2z7c
another bob
24th August 2012, 01:28
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Thank your Guides for the prompt, you'll see why this was a great decision in a relatively short time!
Blessings!
ulli
24th August 2012, 01:30
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.Wow, Ulli, that's huge. I trust you are on your perfect path...but that does not discount the emotions you're feeling.
Dennis
Have you seen The Truman Show, with Jim Carrey?
Where I live here in Barbados reminds me of the place in that movie.
Everything is close by. The island is 21 miles long and 14 miles wide.
My relatives, friends, shopping, are all within 1 mile.
I can drive for 1 month on one tank.
There is a cuteness about this which I shall miss.
It's all so neat and manicured.
Costa Rica is like Jurassic Park.
eaglespirit
24th August 2012, 02:01
Love, Love, Love Ulli : )
Methinks there is tremendous clarity and upward mobility just ahead...
and You are showing the way for oh so many.
What You love about Barbados is what we love about You : )
Playdo of Ataraxas
24th August 2012, 02:18
MMmmmmm Het is lecker! Damn I love cheese! Anyhoo, thanks for the pics, that does bring me back. Schade about the law changes, but I guess squatting has its downside, too. The place I was at was an old High School, and the tenants, some of them, had been there for thirty years. They really had pride for the place, kept it up, and treated it like a real home. I felt very welcome and blessed to be living in their roomy attic crawl space. Ha!
The photo of the Cathedral you posted reminded me of Sint Jans Kathedraal in Den Bosch. There was a pub across from the Church and I spent many hours staring and contemplating it. It really is a fabulous construction. Finally, after many many days, and bierjes, I decided to go inside, and suffice it to say, I was "illuminated." I couldn't believe what I saw when I finally checked out the inner sanctum, and viewed the cieling of the tower. Check it out in the pictures below:
ulli
24th August 2012, 02:18
Love, Love, Love Ulli : )
Methinks there is tremendous clarity and upward mobility just ahead...
and You are showing the way for oh so many.
What You love about Barbados is what we love about You : )
So sweet of you to say that, Eaglespirit.
Meanwhile Costa Rica is raw potential, and we have land there.
14,000m2 by the river and another 10,000m2 on top of the mountain, from where one can see 5 volcanoes.
So the dream is to build cabins, mostly wood and glass...with terraces, modern plumbing, and wifi.
And surrounded by permaculture type gardens.
As long as I'm stuck in Barbados that project will never get off the ground.
benevolentcrow
24th August 2012, 02:30
Love, Love, Love Ulli : )
Methinks there is tremendous clarity and upward mobility just ahead...
and You are showing the way for oh so many.
What You love about Barbados is what we love about You : )
So sweet of you to say that, Eaglespirit.
Meanwhile Costa Rica is raw potential, and we have land there.
14,000m2 by the river and another 10,000m2 on top of the mountain, from where one can see 5 volcanoes.
So the dream is to build cabins, mostly wood and glass...with terraces, modern plumbing, and wifi.
And surrounded by permaculture type gardens.
As long as I'm stuck in Barbados that project will never get off the ground.
What a beautiful dream. I vision it to one day be a reality. Hope the cabins can be rented by Villagers someday! I am good with a power tools if you need a little help my friend!
Playdo of Ataraxas
24th August 2012, 02:35
Incredible idea Ulli! Let me know if you need a skilled carpenter to work for room and board and bananas. My wife is a doula and as long as people need roofs and have babies, we should be able to find work and provide for ourselves anywhere.
Or better said, we should be able to make ourselves useful to a self-sustaining Village. I got a green thumb, too!
Lefty Dave
24th August 2012, 02:41
Made a big decision...selling my car. Giving up the apartment. Pulling out of Barbados.
Tears all day.
Don't post much these days... (I still check PA out daily, though!) but I know you need your friends right now...
Wishin' you the best...plan your work, and work your plan...all will be well..
Money doesn't go very far today...or last very long. Seems to be the controlling factor in most of our lives...wife and i are on SS and have little income from elsewhere...so every time these genius's raise prices...we have to do with less of something... to pay their greed...What we used to make in a week now takes us a month to get! Retirement is for the birds !!
Think of you and fellow "wingmakers" often...still hear from a few...
Sending you my best vibes for a smooth transition ...blessings.
Sierra
24th August 2012, 02:42
Love, Love, Love Ulli : )
Methinks there is tremendous clarity and upward mobility just ahead...
and You are showing the way for oh so many.
What You love about Barbados is what we love about You : )
So sweet of you to say that, Eaglespirit.
Meanwhile Costa Rica is raw potential, and we have land there.
14,000m2 by the river and another 10,000m2 on top of the mountain, from where one can see 5 volcanoes.
So the dream is to build cabins, mostly wood and glass...with terraces, modern plumbing, and wifi.
And surrounded by permaculture type gardens.
As long as I'm stuck in Barbados that project will never get off the ground.
This is a lovely, lovely dream ulli. <passing a Nanoo Nanoo pina colada>
Now we'll be the ones spending our money on round trip tickets (or one way).
Love, love, love, Sierra
<Hearing a whisper, if you build it, they will come ... the Village rolls over, opens one eye, considers moving and consolidation in 3D. Yeah, that would be cool ... sighs in synchrony with the Villagers and goes back to sleep.>
another bob
24th August 2012, 04:41
Retirement is for the birds !!.
On the contrary, though also on Soc. Sec., I love it
(and so do the birds, since they get fed more regularly now).
The key is, want what you already have,
and don't want what you don't have.
It simplifies things considerably!
Eram
24th August 2012, 05:24
7:19 am
Good morning Village,
preparing to leave for the Satsang weekend. Excited!
There is beauty everywhere these days.
Change is in the air in the village.... Ulli, Sierra.
@playdo .. My last pic was Sint Jans Kathedraal in Den Bosch indeed.
meeradas
24th August 2012, 06:18
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/41092_10150257486945177_1546963_n.jpg
What great shot. A classic.
[Only distraction the bottle; otherwise perfect]
Could be from a Roberto Rodriguez movie.
Anchor
24th August 2012, 11:27
I got a sack of recently harvested organic oats delivered this week. I just tried out my Oat Roller and it works.
Rolled 200g makes seems to make a cup of rolled oats - so roughly porridge for 2.
So this sack has enough for over 200 breakfasts - LOL.
I also got a sack of organic spelt grain, now I can test my grain mill.
Now I can make proper fresh organic oat cookies and nice bread.
The spelt is sprout-able, so when I have more time I'll sprout some and juice it.
benevolentcrow
24th August 2012, 12:23
I got a sack of recently harvested organic oats delivered this week. I just tried out my Oat Roller and it works.
Rolled 200g makes seems to make a cup of rolled oats - so roughly porridge for 2.
So this sack has enough for over 200 breakfasts - LOL.
I also got a sack of organic spelt grain, now I can test my grain mill.
Now I can make proper fresh organic oat cookies and nice bread.
The spelt is sprout-able, so when I have more time I'll sprout some and juice it.
Very industrious Anchor, you put me to shame. I hate to admit that I went to Costco and stocked up on all of their organic products this week, LOL Costco has finally started carrying some organics. Organic black beans, soups, whole wheat pasta... Figured I better before prices go through the roof after the drought this summer.
I do plan on dehydrating apples soon and picked up my low to no sugar pectin for my plum preserves. i have lots of green tomatoes, I just hope to get a few reds before the frost is on the pumpkin!
It is Friday off to an estate sale this morning. Life is good and it is great to be alive!!!!
Jenci
24th August 2012, 12:41
Ulli
Wow, that's a really big decision. Tears are to be expected. :hug:
Let us know when the cabins are ready so we can pack our bags. :)
Sierra, good to hear the update on your husband too.
Waky, enjoy your time at satsang.
And thanks to those who have made comments about me. :tea:
I had a conversation with someone yesterday about the alternative media. There comes a point when you have watched all the videos, read all the topics, had the discusssions, looked for the truth, wished it was all different.......that you realise it is about what you do as an individual and how you evolve that really matter.
And when individuals do this and come together with other individuals doing the same in a place like this village, things start to ..................
Thank you to the Village, all of you.:cheer2::cheer2:
Jeanette
Sierra
24th August 2012, 13:01
I got a sack of recently harvested organic oats delivered this week. I just tried out my Oat Roller and it works.
Rolled 200g makes seems to make a cup of rolled oats - so roughly porridge for 2.
So this sack has enough for over 200 breakfasts - LOL.
I also got a sack of organic spelt grain, now I can test my grain mill.
Now I can make proper fresh organic oat cookies and nice bread.
The spelt is sprout-able, so when I have more time I'll sprout some and juice it.
What is an oat roller? And does that mean unrolled oats won't go stale by the 200th breakfast?
1inMany
24th August 2012, 13:14
Good Morning,
Finally got ahold of my laptop. Had to wait til the teenagers were sufficiently distracted, haha. I am so grateful. This past month or so, I have had to trust that my girls are, were, and would be okay. My attention has been elsewhere. And, it turns out, I was right to trust. Oh, I didn't neglect them, but I have been, and continue to be, on a wild ride myself. I see the way it is working out, time wise, and I am in awe...and so grateful. On Monday, they both return to school, with such possibilities ahead. And the universe didn't miss a beat. One week M is with Dad and Em is occupied with acceptable activities independently, and the next week they return to school. Wow. A huge thank you from my heart!
M wants desperately to go to regular classes. She thinks she does, anyway. I am, however, excited beyond belief that she can work at her own pace and finish up a semester's worth of work in a month (probably). She grumbles and complains, but after a tour of her new high school and meeting her teachers yesterday, she came home last night, absconded with my laptop, and did school work. And, she did not have to do that. Wow.
Went to Em's school to pick up her schedule, and the teachers that matter seem to be the best ones. Like Ms. Taylor, who was her teacher for math and homeroom last year, who was her favorite teacher in the world, who will be her math teacher again this year. And her band teacher, who is also a favorite of course, gave her the music last night to practice for Region. Pushing her this year is just what she needs. She is quite talented, but doesn't practice because nothing is really hard. Wow.
It has been awhile since I gave an update on Mike's boss, business deal, etc. As this unfolds, I find myself picking my jaw off the floor periodically. At present, there are six investment groups that have materialized, apparently out of thin air. Two term sheets are in the works, and the original Letter of Intent is still intact. So, boss has committed to sell, in writing, and that is the first Letter of Intent with an Investor in TX. An investment group from California flew here yesterday to meet with Mike et al, and they want to put this deal together, and have said they will have a term sheet to Mike by Monday. Meanwhile, a bank in TX also wants to fund this buy-out, and has promised a term sheet by next Friday. At this moment, it appears Mike et al will be doing a management buyout, and the money will change hands sometime in October. Wow.
It is going to be an awesome few months around here...maybe an awesome year. I hope, I think.
Meanwhile, I am getting used to sharing my personal space with all the gang who have presented themselves. I am not one to be comfortable unless I am alone, but, of course, I was never alone now, was I? So shedding this illusion is difficult in a different way than other aspects of my growth. After the unsettled feeling comes the amazement followed acceptance and then so much gratitude.
I am excited to experience what is next.
Ulli, what a tough, tough decision. My heart is with you on this one.
All My Love,
Jenci
24th August 2012, 13:16
Beautiful pictures drawn with ball point pens :cool:
It may be hard to hard to believe but the pictures below are created using uses standard ballpoint pens bought from places like Staples, eBay, Amazon and, the artist says, any good office supply store.
They're drawn by Portugal-based attorney Samuel Silva, who describes his art as a hobby. However, this is no ordinary hobby - sometimes he works on a piece for up to 50 hours.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192960/Now-thats-doodle-The-incredible-pictures-look-like-photographs-drawn-ball-point-pen.html#ixzz24T9H8MAu
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-2192960-14AB9468000005DC-712_964x853.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-2192960-14AB9445000005DC-771_964x727.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-2192960-14AB9474000005DC-637_964x650.jpg
Sierra
24th August 2012, 13:31
I had a conversation with someone yesterday about the alternative media. There comes a point when you have watched all the videos, read all the topics, had the discusssions, looked for the truth, wished it was all different.......that you realise it is about what you do as an individual and how you evolve that really matter.
And when individuals do this and come together with other individuals doing the same in a place like this village, things start to ..................
Thank you to the Village, all of you.:cheer2::cheer2:
Jeanette
So my husband came home from his first appt., announced he had another appt this morning, and then went downstairs to his mancave to work. Come 7:30 PM he comes upstairs and while we are sharing a pipe, and cooking dinner, says the following:
I told the therapist we had been married 23 years, and she said, "That says a lot right there."
I asked the therapist if she runs into a lot of 7th Day Adventists at the Feather River Hospital, and she said, "Ooooooooh yeah..."
He asks me if I want to go for a walk this morning at 8:00 AM (thank you Anchor, I just *know* you did that one lol)
He announces he is not going to go to work this weekend but do ah ... rude things to me (HEY! So what if I am 63!)
He says (cheerfully) "Now that I am on the upswing I might as well get a lot done ..." (after gatling me (cheerfully) with plans for the next few days lol)
Oh village. That is the first time he has ever acknowledged verbally and cheerfully no less and that there is a positive side and without silence, shame and blame. This is the first time he has spoken of bipolar without ... a charge of hurt and pain.
This is not the therapist. This is David. This is the Village.
Sierra :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 13:40
I've been in the habit for a while, now, (thanks, Zebra) of putting a pinch of celtic sea salt into a bottle of water. It definitely affects the potential of the water, which can be sensed by the change in the texture of the water. Now, we have a reiki circle going, I'm starting back up the habit of putting a case of water in the middle, so when we send energy into the basket, the water gets it, too. The effect on the water, texture wise, is very similar, just without the slightly salty taste. So, last week I got another 5lb bag of salt, and I kept forgetting it at work, where it was delivered, until wednesday, when it occurred to me to put the salt in the reiki circle, too. The effect on the water is now increased dramatically, reiki salt combined with reiki water ends up with a sensation almost like drinking oil instead of water. It's pretty wild.
Much love to all my friends, here and now, whether you need it or not, there is plenty to go around. Seeing as I put the Village in the basket, I wouldn't be the least surprised if the thing wound up manifesting into the 3d.
Dennis Leahy
24th August 2012, 13:50
So my husband came home from his first appt., announced he had another appt this morning, and then went downstairs to his mancave to work. Come 7:30 PM he comes upstairs and while we are sharing a pipe, and cooking dinner, says the following:
I told the therapist we had been married 23 years, and she said, "That says a lot right there."
I asked the therapist if she runs into a lot of 7th Day Adventists at the Feather River Hospital, and she said, "Ooooooooh yeah..."
He asks me if I want to go for a walk this morning at 8:00 AM (thank you Anchor, I just *know* you did that one lol)
He announces he is not going to go to work this weekend but do ah ... rude things to me (HEY! So what if I am 63!)
He says (cheerfully) "Now that I am on the upswing I might as well get a lot done ..." (after gatling me (cheerfully) with plans for the next few days lol)
Oh village. That is the first time he has ever acknowledged verbally and cheerfully no less and that there is a positive side and without silence, shame and blame. This is the first time he has spoken of bipolar without ... a charge of hurt and pain.
This is not the therapist. This is David. This is the Village.
Sierra :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:Wonderful news! Stunning advancement!
Continuing to send love,
Dennis
1inMany
24th August 2012, 14:03
Oh, Sierra, I really, really feel you here. To go from despair to hope is the most delicious surprise! You know where my Hubby was just a few months ago, same as yours. The worry, the helplessness...it feels like it will suffocate you. My heart rejoices with yours! This Village...all of you...Magical...
benevolentcrow
24th August 2012, 14:05
My husbands latest creation using Blender...
Sierra, they seem to be cheering you onward and upward!
1inMany
24th August 2012, 14:06
I've been in the habit for a while, now, (thanks, Zebra) of putting a pinch of celtic sea salt into a bottle of water. It definitely affects the potential of the water, which can be sensed by the change in the texture of the water. Now, we have a reiki circle going, I'm starting back up the habit of putting a case of water in the middle, so when we send energy into the basket, the water gets it, too. The effect on the water, texture wise, is very similar, just without the slightly salty taste. So, last week I got another 5lb bag of salt, and I kept forgetting it at work, where it was delivered, until wednesday, when it occurred to me to put the salt in the reiki circle, too. The effect on the water is now increased dramatically, reiki salt combined with reiki water ends up with a sensation almost like drinking oil instead of water. It's pretty wild.
PL, you speak of the taste and the texture of the water and the salt. But it must do something for you, what does it do? Does it feel different to the body?
1inMany
24th August 2012, 14:19
Sierra, after reading your update again, I have to add something about this business deal process from another standpoint, and I do it to share another level of hope with you.
Remember how I said that I had a hunch, for lack of a better word, that this deal had a lot to do with Hubby being able to do some awakening and growing of his own? Well, there are several deals in the works, right? Choosing the right one will be key for our family, the many families who work for the company, the investors, the boss...it will have an effect on many people. Each deal as pros and cons. (Stay with me here, lol)
So, last night Hubby was telling me about this newest development, about the meeting he had with these two gentlemen from California. And he said to me,
"I really wanted to know who these two guys were. So, I opened my third eye and really looked into their souls. They are good guys. The one is a very helpful kind of soul. He knows that if he helps us to be successful, it translates to success for him as well."
And, Hubby goes on to add that this investment group consists of only these two guys and one more. The investment fund is made up of only personal money from these three guys, and they only choose four deals per year to invest in. They have done three deals this year, and they want this to be their fourth. They are offering the boss' asking price plus $500k to use in development of Hubby's technology. And they will help find key personnel, and pay for them, to make sure this business grows to four times it's current earnings.
You never know, Sierra...your Hubby may now be taking huge steps to an awakening of his own...enjoy this moment fully :)
All My Love,
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 14:23
salts are electrolytes, the help the water to hydrate the body, and the css contains the whole range of trace minerals, and, I suspect, trace amounts of monatomics.
1inMany
24th August 2012, 14:29
salts are electrolytes, the help the water to hydrate the body, and the css contains the whole range of trace minerals, and, I suspect, trace amounts of monatomics.
And, in true PL style, you gave me something new to look up and learn about. Thank you :)
Looking up what the heck monatomic meant, I found this product. I am not selling this product, or even asking about it, but this is the best description of what monatomics will do in the body. Does it sound right?
Etherium Products Energizing Human Potential
Etherium Dietary Supplements are trace elements that contain significant amounts of natural monatomic minerals. They enhance the body’s electromagnetic systems that increase the mind, body, spirit connections. Quite simply; they invigorate the senses and broaden your perceptions. Many experience higher states of consciousness and a spiritual transformation. They are a tool to get you to where you want to be.
Because if this is what the salt and reiki do to water, I'm on it! It can't be as bad as straight vinegar :)
Sierra
24th August 2012, 14:37
You never know, Sierra...your Hubby may now be taking huge steps to an awakening of his own...enjoy this moment fully :)
All My Love,
Woooohoooooooo! <trotting off to make hubby a cup of coffee and get ready for a walk>
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 14:39
you know that feeling you get, when you're really thirsty, and you down some water and you can feel the hydration rushing through the body and out your arms and legs? The salt in the water makes you have that feeling pretty much every time. So many trace elements are absent from the western diet, and minerals are depleted every time you break a sweat, so this brew replaces much. Not to mention the css is very alkaline, so it helps keep the ph of the body from getting too acidic. Which in turn prevents much in the way of sickness. I do caution though, if you get used to the salty taste, the salt water becomes rather addictive, the body craves it.
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 14:43
Link, Please!
salts are electrolytes, the help the water to hydrate the body, and the css contains the whole range of trace minerals, and, I suspect, trace amounts of monatomics.
And, in true PL style, you gave me something new to look up and learn about. Thank you :)
Looking up what the heck monatomic meant, I found this product. I am not selling this product, or even asking about it, but this is the best description of what monatomics will do in the body. Does it sound right?
Etherium Products Energizing Human Potential
Etherium Dietary Supplements are trace elements that contain significant amounts of natural monatomic minerals. They enhance the body’s electromagnetic systems that increase the mind, body, spirit connections. Quite simply; they invigorate the senses and broaden your perceptions. Many experience higher states of consciousness and a spiritual transformation. They are a tool to get you to where you want to be.
Because if this is what the salt and reiki do to water, I'm on it! It can't be as bad as straight vinegar :)
1inMany
24th August 2012, 14:47
https://www.harmonicinnerprizes.com/products/natural-monatomic-minerals/
:)
Playdo of Ataraxas
24th August 2012, 15:09
when it occurred to me to put the salt in the reiki circle, too.
Too funny, dude! I had that same thought and put my bag of Celtic Sea Salt into the Reiki basket for the first time this past Monday.
Nanoo Nanoo
24th August 2012, 15:13
I got a sack of recently harvested organic oats delivered this week. I just tried out my Oat Roller and it works.
F
Rolled 200g makes seems to make a cup of rolled oats - so roughly porridge for 2.
So this sack has enough for over 200 breakfasts - LOL.
I also got a sack of organic spelt grain, now I can test my grain mill.
Now I can make proper fresh organic oat cookies and nice bread.
The spelt is sprout-able, so when I have more time I'll sprout some and juice it.
Aaah a man on the land, im green with envy!
another bob
24th August 2012, 15:45
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/41092_10150257486945177_1546963_n.jpg
What great shot. A classic.
[Only distraction the bottle; otherwise perfect]
Could be from a Roberto Rodriguez movie.
Yep, except the guy holding the flute would be holding a sawed-off shot gun, and replace the water bottle with a 9 mil . . .
RunningDeer
24th August 2012, 15:45
I'm in the process of upgrading the "me". Know that I am with you, in stealth mode. I continue to send balancing energy to assist everyone's free choice to align in mind, body, and spirit.
Blessings of highest and best,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Lighthouses/8.JPG
another bob
24th August 2012, 15:48
Sierra Dear, Thanks so much for sharing the great news!
63, eh? sheesh, that's when it's just gettin' really good!
Blessings!
ThePythonicCow
24th August 2012, 17:32
This is not the therapist. This is David. This is the Village.
And a wee bit'o Sierra, I'll wager :).
DeDukshyn
24th August 2012, 18:50
"Here and Now" quote of the day:
This present moment is the
stargate through which you will leave the prison of
human definition and expand into an awareness of divine
perception. It is the crack between the worlds, not only
the worlds of past and future, but worlds of time and
space, spirit and matter, form and being. It is a timeless
zone, the gateway through which you will again begin to
participate in the adventure of creation.
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 18:52
https://www.harmonicinnerprizes.com/products/natural-monatomic-minerals/
:)
http://www.amazon.com/Etherium-Gold-300-The-Enlightner/dp/B000OO2XIE/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345834264&sr=1-1&keywords=etherium+gold
Jenci
24th August 2012, 19:04
"Here and Now" quote of the day:
This present moment is the
stargate through which you will leave the prison of
human definition and expand into an awareness of divine
perception. It is the crack between the worlds, not only
the worlds of past and future, but worlds of time and
space, spirit and matter, form and being. It is a timeless
zone, the gateway through which you will again begin to
participate in the adventure of creation.
http://upforchangeupforgood.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/we-should-learn-to-live-in-the-present-moment1.jpg?w=497
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 19:05
https://www.harmonicinnerprizes.com/products/natural-monatomic-minerals/
:)
http://www.amazon.com/Etherium-Gold-300-The-Enlightner/dp/B000OO2XIE/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345834264&sr=1-1&keywords=etherium+gold
I ordered some, I will report what results we have. :)
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 19:11
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Jenci
24th August 2012, 19:30
http://peacefulprosperity.com/images/is-it-the-now-yet2.png
Mark
24th August 2012, 19:34
So much good news. So many people's worlds changing, shifting. All is for the better. Blessings and love to the growth, the experience, the sharing, the unity of understanding, compassion and oneness in this human experience. For Sierra's husband, 1inMany's man, WCBD and Astrid's inner alchemy, Waky's progression, Ulli's return home and the inevitable breaking ground on the physical village of our collective dreams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TDfPgd3Kyc
Mark
24th August 2012, 19:47
But then why does the color seem to depend on my clarity? I've noticed that when I relax myself and my mind I can go all the way to blue on a yellow background, and then sometimes when I distract myself it goes back to green, or if I just lose it altogether, all the way back down to pink. As I said, it could be just me.
Well, speaking energetically, the purple is indicative of your sight being closer to the ultraviolet spectrum, which is a higher frequency, while green/yellow is about mid-way between ultra-violet and red, which is at the lower end of the spectrum and a lower frequency. The pink would indicate you've almost reached the lowest frequency range, so, it makes sense that the shift in colors goes along with the depth of the ability to concentrate. I've never really thought of it that way or associated the color shift with that, but it would make sense to me if it were so...
Someday soon the veil will lift and we all can clearly see...
I wonder if what we'll be able to see is that we've just removed our hands from over our own eyes?
The key is, want what you already have,
and don't want what you don't have.
Why have I never read this quote before, but have now seen it twice in the past half hour, once from you and another in the signature of an old friend of a similarly transcendent spiritual nature?
Wait ... I think I know the answer.
another bob
24th August 2012, 20:19
http://peacefulprosperity.com/images/is-it-the-now-yet2.png
Every moment is ever-new, whether or not we are attaching memory-based associations to its appearance, or projecting future-based expectations and desires onto it. In this regard, the only thing that actually remains constant in this life experience is the fact that it is always this moment. One truth remains unassailable, as our whole life unfolds within this moment: it's always Now!
When most people hear slogans like "Be here now", they think that "the present" is only appearing for a short time -- a moment -- and so needs to be grasped onto, in order to avoid "missing it". However, whatever happens to appear in the present moment is perhaps more accurately recognized as simply the manifestation of the present moment, a transient and non-binding expression or modification of Now.
Something comes into the space of Now momentarily and then disappears. Then something else arises and vanishes. What remains is a fundamental ground of Stillness, Vastness, out of which everything is emerging and into which everything is dissolving. This "Stillness" is another name for our own pure Awareness.
Consequently, when we realize what Now really Is - this fundamental ground of our own Awareness in which everything inheres and has its being - then we can naturally relax into the condition of our primordial peace, without the need to manipulate outcomes or create some reason to be apprehensive about the appearance or disappearance of any circumstance, event, or person.
The only challenge about all of this comes when we begin to complicate -- when we cling to and fixate on temporal beliefs, granting some sort of enduring reality to fantasies of interpretation on perception, otherwise known in this case as "past, present, and future". We are timeless awareness, and beyond that, where no words can go, we shine as the radiance of Source Itself, illuminating this all-inclusive moment Now.
Marianne
24th August 2012, 21:03
Remember my friend T who has scoliosis/spinal curvature?
T came into my office and asked if I told my friends online /and had they done something ... I told her I'd put out the request and energy /intent had gone into healing for her. She had a big grin, and told me she thinks it worked!
The miracle village has done it again. She said her x-rays show the curvature is much less severe than it was.
Thank you, to everyone.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cnzGZYUiCfo/T_cM_-3C3eI/AAAAAAAJJ80/LXllCfKyCWk/s1600/positive+attitude+quotes+%284%29.jpg
Playdo of Ataraxas
24th August 2012, 21:12
https://www.harmonicinnerprizes.com/products/natural-monatomic-minerals/
:)
http://www.amazon.com/Etherium-Gold-300-The-Enlightner/dp/B000OO2XIE/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345834264&sr=1-1&keywords=etherium+gold
I ordered some, I will report what results we have. :)
Purple Lama: Podunk Magician, Redneck Wizard, and Volunteer Guinea Pig! I love it, Brother!
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 21:13
Oh, what is more fun than messing around with the body's chemistry? My intuition has yet to lead me wrong, I am stronger and healthier than I have ever been.
https://www.harmonicinnerprizes.com/products/natural-monatomic-minerals/
:)
http://www.amazon.com/Etherium-Gold-300-The-Enlightner/dp/B000OO2XIE/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345834264&sr=1-1&keywords=etherium+gold
I ordered some, I will report what results we have. :)
Purple Lama: Podunk Magician, Redneck Wizard, and Volunteer Guinea Pig! I love it, Brother!
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 21:22
To date, skate liver oil, butter oil, atomidine, celtic sea salt, hemp seed and oil, and apple vinegar with mother have all been added to my diet this year, with dramatic results. I don't know that I have mentioned it on the forum, before, but as Playdo knows, I had the West Nile virus in 2006, and in the wake of that illness I never fully regained my physical strength and stamina, until this year, that is. I honestly think it was the butter oil that put me moving back to where I was before, strength wise, and beyond. Then, taking the atomidine, I lost some of my inherent laziness, some not all, that has put this new found strength to some good use (gardening).
Eram
24th August 2012, 21:35
To date, skate liver oil, butter oil, atomidine, celtic sea salt, hemp seed and oil, and apple vinegar with mother have all been added to my diet this year, with dramatic results. I don't know that I have mentioned it on the forum, before, but as Playdo knows, I had the West Nile virus in 2006, and in the wake of that illness I never fully regained my physical strength and stamina, until this year, that is. I honestly think it was the butter oil that put me moving back to where I was before, strength wise, and beyond. Then, taking the atomidine, I lost some of my inherent laziness, some not all, that has put this new found strength to some good use (gardening).
celtic sea salt ...check!
apple vinegar ...check!
hemp seed oil ...check!
atomidine ... on the to do list!
further:
chlorella
kefir
raw organic honey
Amazing how proper nutrition can restore a faulty health.
Redneck Wizard
:lol:
The picture that came to mind was not on google and the ones that did are not proper to post here ;)
ulli
24th August 2012, 21:41
I always knew that to be dependent on the Village meant to be dependent on Internet and electricity.
This created anxiety in me...
Things are getting better however...I've been sun gazing for quite a while myself, but so far haven't mentioned it.
But more and more of you are now into it and that is great.
This may well be the connecting link between all of us.
Before I used to see the moon like that, but it just doesn't compare...
there is real power in the sun,...
after all, the moon only reflects sunlight, so it's just second hand light.
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 22:00
I get kefir when I can find the flavors I like, strawberry or pomegranate, and I forgot Kombucha, and local raw honey and me are good friends, too. The algae, chlorella, was just recommended to me by a non-avalonian, synchronistically enough, earlier today, by my chemist friend, "Doc", who I consulted while purchasing the etherium gold.
another bob
24th August 2012, 22:00
I always knew that to be dependent on the Village meant to be dependent on Internet and electricity.
This created anxiety in me...
Things are getting better however...I've been sun gazing for quite a while myself, but so far haven't mentioned it.
But more and more of you are now into it and that is great.
This may well be the connecting link between all of us.
Before I used to see the moon like that, but it just doesn't compare...
there is real power in the sun,...
after all, the moon only reflects sunlight, so it's just second hand light.
The moon is a spaceship that can circle the solar system 3 times without us even noticing it has moved! Originally, it carried the Teal'hia here, who then spent the next couple million years turning this rock into a garden, just because they like to cultivate stuff. They don't interfere, just watch and enjoy the show, once all the pieces have been set in motion.
The sun is an amazing being too, but nobody understands it, even if they were to stare at it for a million years. Very few actually go into the sun upon dropping the body, and those that do, aren't talking. Recently, the sun was pregnant and squeezed out a few new planets, but that news wasn't made public on CNN. Some of those planets wander off on big adventures. I wonder if they ever send letters home?
Oh holy mother who is adorned by the golden skies...i bow in reverence to you.....
The one who resides in the center of the lotus that is the universe. i bow in reverence to you....
The one who is brighter than a billion suns. I bow in reverence to you...
G-P66vUArgI
PurpleLama
24th August 2012, 22:03
Very few actually go into the sun upon dropping the body, and those that do, aren't talking.
*cough, cough, cough*
Mmm, excuse me, something caught in my throat, I think.
another bob
24th August 2012, 22:05
Very few actually go into the sun upon dropping the body, and those that do, aren't talking.
*cough, cough, cough*
Mmm, excuse me, something caught in my throat, I think.
Yeah, them hemp seeds can sneak back up on ya!
:-)
1inMany
24th August 2012, 23:32
Hmmm. I am simply no good at being around people who are miserable. More specifically, I cannot stand it when I am around someone who is suffering. Okay, even more specifically, Peanut has called and said she is having a tough time. I have tried and tried to get her to talk about it, but she refuses because she says she will cry more. So, of course, I prod her to find out what's the matter with crying. She gets exasperated with me. Apparently Little One is on his way here, and somehow this will help her. When I heard her say she is getting another tattoo, I knew. Something is breaking her. Dammit, if she would just accept some help then I could do something. *sigh*
M is not letting a moment pass without letting me know how miserable she is out here in the country. Not a moment. *sigh*
I'm just no good at this part of things. It is in my nature to do what I can to help others, give them what they want, and when there is nothing I can do...well, it is just hard.
I'm doing my best to remember, to believe, to be. What would an angel do in this situation? That's what I keep asking myself. I know I need to stay focused and centered. I know I can let the light in, enjoy the company of my group, though they aren't much for words (lol). I just feel like I am holding the scale, and it is constantly out of balance. If I can just get to a place where nothing phases me, well, then...
All My Love, my friends
Dennis Leahy
24th August 2012, 23:38
Was there a Z class solar flare today, or am I just completely out of energy for some more mundane reason?
Dennis Dragonass Leahy
1inMany
24th August 2012, 23:40
Well, thanks a lot, lol, now I had to go and look up kefir. PL, if you like it but can't find the flavors you like, why don't you make some?
http://www.culturesforhealth.com/kefir
It doesn't, um, sound really appetizing though. Soured, effervescent milk? Must be really good for you if you want to drink it...
Love,
Sierra
24th August 2012, 23:51
PL, once you've had Nile Virus, are you immune?
1inMany, an angel would grit their teeth, sit on their hands, and mutter the mantra, "Free will free will free will free will ... " and then they'd say, "I can do nothing let go, I can do nothing let go I can do nothing let go... " and then they'd say, "Where's hubby, let's go for a drink." (just to take a break from the drama ... ) Have M read this thread about stupidity: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48959-I-m-my-own-stupid-The-Paranoia-Feedback-Loop-and-brain-breakdown&p=543618&viewfull=1#post543618
Sierra :)
Anchor
25th August 2012, 00:23
WOW!
I just had porridge made from my home rolled oats. Seriously amazing. We just added water as usual, some raisins a little heating and stirring served with a teaspoon of honey. Same recipie as always
The outcome was CREAMY!
Seriously - I never expected that it would be this good. I should have done this years ago.
What is an oat roller? And does that mean unrolled oats won't go stale by the 200th breakfast?
The oats are oat groats (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-oat-groats.htm) - literally the outcome of the harvesting - the only processing is separating them from the rest of the plant. Essentially seeds at this point. They keep for ages in the correct conditions. I dont know exactly how long, but not as long as wheat, (which can be stored for 20years in an oxygen free environment).
You can eat them like that, but you need to grind them up with your teeth (I believe its called chewing - something they did a lot more of in the olden days :) )
Anyway, you can put them in a machine like this (this is the one I got, and a free plug for the company that imports them to Australia (http://www.skippygrainmills.com.au/hand/campo.htm)):
http://www.skippygrainmills.com.au/hand/Assets/campo.jpg
Turn the handle, and the groats are drawn down and squashed between two stone rollers.
This squ'shes them out flat, breaks them up inside and increases the surface area - but from this point on they start to loose their nutrition because you have broken the seeds protective barriers and exposed the insides to oxygen in a way that they were not before.
This is why rolling them fresh is much better than buying them in a shop where they were rolled months ago.
Its the same deal with flour. The best is to buy the wheat and grind the flour only when you need it.
This solves two problems. Storage - the oats and wheat store for ages - and enhances the nutrition.
Carmody
25th August 2012, 00:52
also, the seed is intact.
You can grow more, out of your stock.
1inMany
25th August 2012, 00:55
1inMany, an angel would grit their teeth, sit on their hands, and mutter the mantra, "Free will free will free will free will ... " and then they'd say, "I can do nothing let go, I can do nothing let go I can do nothing let go... " and then they'd say, "Where's hubby, let's go for a drink." (just to take a break from the drama ... ) Have M read this thread about stupidity: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48959-I-m-my-own-stupid-The-Paranoia-Feedback-Loop-and-brain-breakdown&p=543618&viewfull=1#post543618
Sierra :)
Right! And, thanks for the link...I'm lovin it :)
ulli
25th August 2012, 01:23
This is just too weird....
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Carmody
25th August 2012, 01:50
Very few actually go into the sun upon dropping the body, and those that do, aren't talking.
*cough, cough, cough*
Mmm, excuse me, something caught in my throat, I think.
Yeah, them hemp seeds can sneak back up on ya!
:-)
I've gone to the moon, but no recollection of ever going to the sun. Might have to try that one.
eaglespirit
25th August 2012, 01:54
I wanna go on a space ride with You All... Another Bob, will You Navigate : )
http://starchildglobal.com/starchild/cosmic.jpg
DeDukshyn
25th August 2012, 03:17
I always knew that to be dependent on the Village meant to be dependent on Internet and electricity.
This created anxiety in me...
Things are getting better however...I've been sun gazing for quite a while myself, but so far haven't mentioned it.
But more and more of you are now into it and that is great.
This may well be the connecting link between all of us.
Before I used to see the moon like that, but it just doesn't compare...
there is real power in the sun,...
after all, the moon only reflects sunlight, so it's just second hand light.
The moon is a spaceship that can circle the solar system 3 times without us even noticing it has moved! Originally, it carried the Teal'hia here, who then spent the next couple million years turning this rock into a garden, just because they like to cultivate stuff. They don't interfere, just watch and enjoy the show, once all the pieces have been set in motion.
The sun is an amazing being too, but nobody understands it, even if they were to stare at it for a million years. Very few actually go into the sun upon dropping the body, and those that do, aren't talking. Recently, the sun was pregnant and squeezed out a few new planets, but that news wasn't made public on CNN. Some of those planets wander off on big adventures. I wonder if they ever send letters home?
Oh holy mother who is adorned by the golden skies...i bow in reverence to you.....
The one who resides in the center of the lotus that is the universe. i bow in reverence to you....
The one who is brighter than a billion suns. I bow in reverence to you...
G-P66vUArgI
;-)
Your post made my day!! Stuff I want to say but ego has a tendency to make me sound silly when I do! ;) ;)
Blessings!
Star larvae ... There is a theory ...
Whiskey_Mystic
25th August 2012, 04:07
Whiskey, that bilderberger thingy is funny. How you are doing at your new job? Hope it's going awesome for you!.
It's going well. My first game will be out in January. It has a theme of paranormal investigation, conspiracy, and a large multinational corporation involved with mind control. It might get dumbed down by the time it is published, though.
another bob
25th August 2012, 04:13
I wanna go on a space ride with You All... Another Bob, will You Navigate : )
v5_0iZQ-TuA
55uF_GXxIWI
Nanoo Nanoo
25th August 2012, 05:27
Whiskey, that bilderberger thingy is funny. How you are doing at your new job? Hope it's going awesome for you!.
It's going well. My first game will be out in January. It has a theme of paranormal investigation, conspiracy, and a large multination
al corporation involved with mind control. It might get dumbed down by the time it is published, though.
Bill Murray is a genius :-)
ulli
25th August 2012, 09:10
Whiskey, that bilderberger thingy is funny. How you are doing at your new job? Hope it's going awesome for you!.
It's going well. My first game will be out in January. It has a theme of paranormal investigation, conspiracy, and a large multinational corporation involved with mind control. It might get dumbed down by the time it is published, though.
Your avatar...
Bill Murray in Lost in Translation....
Each time you leave a post I'm reminded of the weirdest synchronicity ever...
I have yet to find an angle that explains what happened there...
It's to do with the Karaoke scene. There are four songs in total, and each one was written by someone I knew personally.
I met quite a few people who were famous, or later became famous, but the ones who would remember me and open their door to me if I were to appear unannounced on their doorstep are all bundled in that scene.
So I'm watching Lost In Translation in a movie theater in Costa Rica....went there with a couple whom I barely knew..my husband was away traveling..and these people didn't know me well enough to really understand my huge surprise which had me nearly walk out to get some air.
So I'm sitting there and on comes Bill Murray and sings "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding"...
The day that song was written I was with its composer, which most people think was Elvis Costello, but that's not true. The song w written by Nick Lowe, and he was my boyfriend at the time he wrote it. I was staying with him that weekend, he lived on a farm with the band of which he was then the lead singer... Brinsley Schwarz. I even met his parents and sister. We broke up when I went to Barbados, that was 1974. Elvis Costello was a friend of Nick's and he went on and made that song famous. Nick himself struggled for years, but only got his financial break after he produced the music for the movie The Bodyguard. He later married the daughter of Johnny Cash, but that marriage went south, for the same reason that I wouldn't commit in the first place...alcoholism.
That same year I was close with Chrissie Hynde, just before she formed the band The Pretenders. We would hang out together, she'd pick me up from my home and we'd go to concerts. At the time she was working for Vivienne Westwood (now famous Paris based fashion designer) and Malcolm MacLaren ( founder of the punk music scene and manager of the Sex Pistols) In the movie the Scarlett Johansson character sings a Chrissie Hynde song.
Then Bill Murray starts another song and I'm getting goosebumps by now. I mean a two-song synchronicity I could understand...but three? This one was a Bryan Ferry song, when he used to be with Roxy Music. I met all members, even sat at a table with Brian Eno, but Bryan Ferry and his ex-wife became quite close friends of mine...who even had me over for their Christmas dinner in Barbados. After I moved to Costa Rica I shut that door behind me, and never even replied to Lucy Ferry's letter.
Then there was apparently another song...by the Sex Pistols, whom I had met late one night after a party in honor of Jimmy Page, which they hosted inside some caves in South London. I was leaving the party by myself, when Malcolm MacLaren came running after me and asked me if I could drop his boys back into town..and I said yes.and thus these four pimply teenage boys crawled into my Alpha Romeo, and I drove them home. One year later they made headlines when they appeared at the 100 Club in Oxford Street as the Sex Pistols.
So all the people whose names I have dropped here and who are associated with the Karaoke scene in Lost in Translation, from which your Avatar originates, were once really close to me. The only exception would be Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics, whom I also knew quite well,...but maybe he has a connection as well which I don't know about. I've also had dinner with Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall (Barbados), with Cat Stevens, ( london) Keith Richards, ( his farm Redlands in West Wittering) all really famous people but I doubt if they would remember me now.
Yet the ones in this movie would.
Can anyone explain this to me? Been schlepping this mystery around with me for years.
ulli
25th August 2012, 09:25
And just after writing the above I read Jacko's post on the Bob Lazar thread and found this
(essentially identical to my post above, in that a surprise is expressed about a bunch of luminaries in one particular spot)
"As Gary and I continued with our speech, we were surprised to see John Lear (son of the inventor of the Lear Jet) enter the room. A little later, the door opened again and here comes George Knapp, KLAS-TV news anchorman. Then about 30 minutes later, we were astonished to see Bob Lazar enter the room, together with his girlfriend. There was no space left for them to be seated. We never expected these individuals to be there. Literally, the entire Little A-le-Inn was filled with so many so-called UFO "luminaries", all in one place. There must have been at least 95 to 110 people there."
ulli
25th August 2012, 10:17
I wanna go on a space ride with You All... Another Bob, will You Navigate : )
v5_0iZQ-TuA
55uF_GXxIWI
Special thanks for these two videos, bob. What a trip!
Full screen and full volume.
Anchor
25th August 2012, 10:25
Can anyone explain this to me? Been schlepping this mystery around with me for years.
My opinion....
You have to think outside the box to get this.
Your higher self is the architect of separateness and forgetting - the veil.
We shove ourselves behind the veil of forgetting so we can be about the learning stuff we came here to do, but every now and then, we find a way to pass a hint to the one who thinks they are individual.
In my opinion, your higher self and perhaps your entire soul group conspired to construct that moment as a signpost for you - and anyone else that can resonate with your telling of it.
Jenci
25th August 2012, 10:30
Can anyone explain this to me? Been schlepping this mystery around with me for years.
My opinion....
You have to think outside the box to get this.
Your higher self, an is the architect of separateness and forgetting - the veil.
We shove ourselves behind the veil of forgetting so we can be about the learning stuff we came here to do, but every now and then, we find a way to pass a hint to the one who thinks they are individual.
In my opinion, your higher self and perhaps your entire soul group conspired to construct that moment as a signpost for you - and anyone else that can resonate with your telling of it.
http://www.dailyinspirationalquotes.in/wp-content/kapson_uploads/daily_quote_images/2012/15-07-2012-03.jpg
ulli
25th August 2012, 10:56
Can anyone explain this to me? Been schlepping this mystery around with me for years.
My opinion....
You have to think outside the box to get this.
Your higher self, an is the architect of separateness and forgetting - the veil.
We shove ourselves behind the veil of forgetting so we can be about the learning stuff we came here to do, but every now and then, we find a way to pass a hint to the one who thinks they are individual.
In my opinion, your higher self and perhaps your entire soul group conspired to construct that moment as a signpost for you - and anyone else that can resonate with your telling of it.
Yeah, soul group is the key here. And maybe I should look into who wrote that screen play, and certainly Sophia Cappola, the director...
Well, Anchor, you should know by now that synchronicities happen to me daily
Most of the time I let myself be guided by them, always trusting that some wonderful being constructed them for me from behind the veil...
But one day I discovered that sometimes they have been to my detriment and I ended up crawling back into the box just to feel less raw and vulnerable.
Turning points came whenever these things happened...and in the end it's all good.
Anyway, thanks for responding...I'm getting glimmers here....
So in 1974 I was getting into a jetset life style, and for several years hung out with the rich and famous. Motivation was the main factor, I have to admit to myself that I wanted money and fame at the time, partially to impress my parents, mainly my father, with my independence.
All that led to an awakening and subsequently to an intensified search for Self.
But what about that particular moment in Costa Rica, in that theater---by that time I was living in the depths of anonymity, a very humble life style, surrounded by people whose only idea of fame was to become a soccer star....
To have my own past jump back at me off of a screen, via Bill Murray,
and now again, here on Avalon..with Whiskey_Mystic rubbing it in with that picture of his Avatar, and even having his own coincidences regarding Bill Murray....so what's with that? Maybe the real Bill Murray will join the Village one day, as well as Chrissie Hynde and Bryan Ferry and Nick Lowe and Sophia Cappola.
Mad Hatter
25th August 2012, 11:11
<retro grade subroutine>
Sorry gentle people... very time poor at the mo whilst trying to fit a two year diploma in advanced network security into 48hrs of class time over the next six months, thus only just catching up on things...
@ PL
Ah , ha! I bet he's got his settings at forty posts per page, and https is perhaps some shorthand for 'secured'. Hmmmm, that could work. I anticipate that MH will perhaps be amused at the confusion, having even Carmody picking up his cap.Full marks (on all counts) and if the pub was still open I'd shout you a round of whatever takes your fancy..
@ Carmody
VizziniHigh Distinction - and thanks for the belly laugh I'll now have to dig that up and watch all of it...
@ uli
Morons have it so easy, don't they?Honourable mention - Since I resemble that remark can I take it then my claim to the title of 'Village idiot' at this point goes unchallenged..!?!!.. :p
<end subroutine>
<resume normal program>
PS UDP Port 456 protocol and security warnings including related ports. :cool:
ulli
25th August 2012, 11:13
Can anyone explain this to me? Been schlepping this mystery around with me for years.
My opinion....
You have to think outside the box to get this.
Your higher self, an is the architect of separateness and forgetting - the veil.
We shove ourselves behind the veil of forgetting so we can be about the learning stuff we came here to do, but every now and then, we find a way to pass a hint to the one who thinks they are individual.
In my opinion, your higher self and perhaps your entire soul group conspired to construct that moment as a signpost for you - and anyone else that can resonate with your telling of it.
http://www.dailyinspirationalquotes.in/wp-content/kapson_uploads/daily_quote_images/2012/15-07-2012-03.jpg
Are you endorsing that statement? How do you feel about it?
To me it's always been the opposite...
a very intimate and personal reminder that God is closer than my own interior.
My job is to decode and find meaning in the message given.
To me there is no question whether there is a creator or not...I'm way past that.
This is about personal relationship to God as revealed through our personal lives...
And how to read the guidance given.
The more intimate the guidance the closer I am to getting IT. The more personal the message
the more trust I can then invest in moving forward. Then there are no worries about deception.
This is one of the reasons why this thread is about each Villager's personal experience, as the mystics that we are...
Albeit with a tumbler of Scotch or rum or ( fill in the dotted line .....) in our hands...
ulli
25th August 2012, 11:20
@ uli
Morons have it so easy, don't they?Honourable mention - Since I resemble that remark can I take it then my claim to the title of 'Village idiot' at this point goes unchallenged..!?!!.. :p
:cool:
What would a Village be without it's idiot???
I will personally see to it that your life is made easy whenever you pass through.
Don't be a stranger, ok? Be an idiot!
Nothing like finding one's true self.
Maria Stade
25th August 2012, 11:38
Dear Avalonian I need your help to protect a place on ths planet.
Please sign
http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Stop_limestone_quarry_to_secure_fresh_water_reserve_and_natural_habitat_for_a_number_of_endangered_s pecies/
:grouphug: To ya all !!
Anchor
25th August 2012, 11:47
Yeah, soul group is the key here.
I concur.
Well, Anchor, you should know by now that synchronicities happen to me daily
I think that they happen to everyone, but only get noticed by those with eyes to see.
But what about that particular moment in Costa Rica, in that theater---by that time I was living in the depths of anonymity, a very humble life style, surrounded by people whose only idea of fame was to become a soccer star....
A seed is/was planted. This one it appears has taken longer to grow than you might first have expected it to.
Eram
25th August 2012, 11:59
Well, Anchor, you should know by now that synchronicities happen to me daily
I think that they happen to everyone, but only get noticed by those with eyes to see.
Since I opened up for my awakening process, the synchronicity's have but vanished and I have great difficulties in keeping my keys close and not lost. I used to be someone who never lost his keys.
Do I panic about it? no
Anchor
25th August 2012, 12:37
Since I opened up for my awakening process, the synchronicity's have but vanished and I have great difficulties in keeping my keys close and not lost. I used to be someone who never lost his keys.
Do I panic about it? no
What is the point of reminders if you already got the message?
eaglespirit
25th August 2012, 12:43
But what about that particular moment in Costa Rica, in that theater---by that time I was living in the depths of anonymity, a very humble life style, surrounded by people whose only idea of fame was to become a soccer star....
To have my own past jump back at me off of a screen, via Bill Murray,
and now again, here on Avalon..with Whiskey_Mystic rubbing it in with that picture of his Avatar, and even having his own coincidences regarding Bill Murray....so what's with that? Maybe the real Bill Murray will join the Village one day, as well as Chrissie Hynde and Bryan Ferry and Nick Lowe and Sophia Cappola.
imho, we are all star celebrities...celestial star celebrities here to do a job in anonymity and humility while integrating as best we may. So many of the famous You shared personal life with have been in my dreams as though I know them personally/intimately in a 'shrug of the shoulders' kind of way. We are right in the middle of the biggest balancing act near and far and are about to see, feel and taste the glory of it all : )
Jenci
25th August 2012, 13:58
Can anyone explain this to me? Been schlepping this mystery around with me for years.
My opinion....
You have to think outside the box to get this.
Your higher self, an is the architect of separateness and forgetting - the veil.
We shove ourselves behind the veil of forgetting so we can be about the learning stuff we came here to do, but every now and then, we find a way to pass a hint to the one who thinks they are individual.
In my opinion, your higher self and perhaps your entire soul group conspired to construct that moment as a signpost for you - and anyone else that can resonate with your telling of it.
http://www.dailyinspirationalquotes.in/wp-content/kapson_uploads/daily_quote_images/2012/15-07-2012-03.jpg
Are you endorsing that statement? How do you feel about it?
To me it's always been the opposite...
a very intimate and personal reminder that God is closer than my own interior.
My job is to decode and find meaning in the message given.
To me there is no question whether there is a creator or not...I'm way past that.
This is about personal relationship to God as revealed through our personal lives...
And how to read the guidance given.
The more intimate the guidance the closer I am to getting IT. The more personal the message
the more trust I can then invest in moving forward. Then there are no worries about deception.
This is one of the reasons why this thread is about each Villager's personal experience, as the mystics that we are...
Albeit with a tumbler of Scotch or rum or ( fill in the dotted line .....) in our hands...
That statement to me is in agreement with what Anchor was saying, that the Higher Self or the soul group was working behind the scenes (veil) in that moment.
There's a paradox that although that may seem distant or separate it is also a very intimate movement or force.
In that sense, it is personally tailored to meet the individual's needs. What I learned from my own personal experience is that very often I have been denied exactly what I want in life. In fact, there are things which most people find very easy to obtain which I have been consistently denied however hard I tried. It took a long time for me to see the bigger picture of how these events in my life were working out. I was always getting exactly what I needed by getting the denial of what I wanted.
Those same blocks and experiences, what I call the core story, still appear in my life the only difference is that now it amuse mes. I get the joke :)
I - as in the bigger me, the Self with a capital S - is manifesting the exact experience that I want, although the little me has not been able to see that before.
Part of that manifestation in this life has been the resistance to that experience. In fact I have resisted the same experience and the very same denials of what I have needed/wanted for more than this lifetime......I get a sense it has been going on for many lifetimes.
So I don't think there are any accidents or coincidences :)
Jeanette
Playdo of Ataraxas
25th August 2012, 13:59
Here and now a great clip from Scientist Michio Kaku: "All kids are born geniuses but are crushed by society: http://www.wimp.com/borngeniuses/
1inMany
25th August 2012, 14:23
Good Morning,
This is the best news I could hope for this morning. Peanut usually poo-poos any help I offer in the way of prayers, good energy vibes, angels, etc., etc. But she finally, finally gave me permission!!!
So, I'm asking, this morning, for everyone's help. At the moment, with Little One running around, it will be impractical for me to reach out to her. I will as soon as I see the opportunity.
In the meantime, she is in turmoil, and I wonder where her thoughts are as her new tattoo is one word, "Live." She is having nightmares every moment she is asleep, reliving past traumas. And she has been separated from the one man she thought she would spend eternity with, it has been a year, but she still cannot heal from that. Little One called him Daddy...This man wanted that. Until one day when he did not any more. Little One remembers, and it is hard for both of them.
At the moment, I do not ask for anything specific, the only thing I know to ask for is whatever she needs. I cannot be any more specific. Compassion, love, healing, and strength come to mind.
Every single prayer, every single light shined her way, every single loving thought...will help.
Thank you, Village.
All my Love,
This, my dearest friends, is my Peanut:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=16249&thumb=1&d=1336744066
PurpleLama
25th August 2012, 14:53
We have permission, Hey!
ulli
25th August 2012, 15:12
We have permission, Hey!
Permission for what? To carry on??
Sometimes, when I look back and see what all of us have been through,
and always bounce back I feel like this Village has passed the test by fire.
The way this house did....looks like it had a shield around it when those fires raged...
http://i.imgur.com/QXlAF.jpg
Carmody
25th August 2012, 15:59
I wanna go on a space ride with You All... Another Bob, will You Navigate : )
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PurpleLama
25th August 2012, 17:06
Permission to help Peanut.
We have permission, Hey!
Permission for what? To carry on??
Sometimes, when I look back and see what all of us have been through,
and always bounce back I feel like this Village has passed the test by fire.
The way this house did....looks like it had a shield around it when those fires raged...
http://i.imgur.com/QXlAF.jpg
Sierra
25th August 2012, 17:33
For Peanut: Thank you Peanut for your permission! We'll do our best to help! You are very brave. :)
Ulli, how weird. I just finished reading the Peter Moon/Preston Nichols book talking about the music industry. I think you were lucky to get out of there alive. And sane. And conscious. Somehow, the source wanted you to witness this and you did. The "why" may not have happened yet ...
Sierra
another bob
25th August 2012, 17:37
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Good Morning,
This is the best news I could hope for this morning.
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ulli
25th August 2012, 17:38
For Peanut: Thank you Peanut for your permission! We'll do our best to help! You are very brave. :)
Ulli, how weird. I just finished reading the Peter Moon/Preston Nichols book talking about the music industry. I think you were lucky to get out of there alive. And sane. And conscious. Somehow, the source wanted you to witness this and you did. The "why" may not have happened yet ...
Sierra
Glad you mentioned the "why" word.
Because synchronicity for it's own sake, as a road sign to another dimension, is no longer sufficient.
I don't like absurd signals...there must be more meaning than this....
More than this
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Sierra
25th August 2012, 17:42
1inMany, an angel would grit their teeth, sit on their hands, and mutter the mantra, "Free will free will free will free will ... " and then they'd say, "I can do nothing let go, I can do nothing let go I can do nothing let go... " and then they'd say, "Where's hubby, let's go for a drink." (just to take a break from the drama ... ) Have M read this thread about stupidity: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48959-I-m-my-own-stupid-The-Paranoia-Feedback-Loop-and-brain-breakdown&p=543618&viewfull=1#post543618
Sierra :)
Right! And, thanks for the link...I'm lovin it :)
You are welcome! It made me think of a certain poster that seems to do nothing BUT whine and complain... (Muffled laughter.) (Oh I am bad.) (And enjoying it.) (Oh I am SO bad ... ) :banplease:
Sierra
1inMany
25th August 2012, 17:47
Apparently, this is how I feel when I get permission...
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Oh, Yeah, I love you guys!
p.s....I'm going to come back when I have a minute so I can catch up! Little One...is...a Busy One!
another bob
25th August 2012, 18:17
..there must be more meaning than this....
It's difficult for the meaning-seeking mind to accept the fact that there is a lot of stuff that it will never be able to figure out.
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