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Dennis Leahy
15th September 2011, 05:17
I am copying and pasting the following from my friend Jeff Prager's Facebook Note. I think of Jeff as a one-man 9/11 research army, absolutely determined to discover every bit of information possible about the crimes of 9/11, and he would quickly remind you that there were multiple crimes, (including major financial crimes), not just the murders and the towers and even the pretext for wars. I have attempted to show Jeff's commentary in INDIGO colored text. Jeff believes Richard Gage is a gatekeeper, and my gut is that Gage is deflecting evidence he sees as extraneous to the core case of 9/11 building demolition. If my gut is correct, and if all of Jeff's research is correct, then Gage has blinders on, attempting to focus on the case he believes is critical to open the eyes of the majority of American citizens (which is theoretically where the pressure of a new investigation would come from.) If my gut is wrong, then Gage is the lead of the 9/11 truth limited hangout - attempting to help hide the nuclear nature of the building demolitions as well as the immense financial crimes.

Enough commentary from me, the following is plenty long enough, but I'm certain that those with a burning desire to know the truth about 9/11 will read all of this. Links to Jeff's excellent (and free) e-books are at the end.

-Dennis

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With all of the research I've done on 911 (links below), and that would be research not done by others, ever, from what I've seen and I've read EVERYTHING ever written on this subject, this testimony makes perfect sense, relates directly to my findings and supports all of my various assertions. So to me, it's staggering, but unless you've read my books it may not be as obviously astonishing.


Photographer hired to be accomplice to 911 murders
On the tenth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 New York City mass murder, a Little Rock, Arkansas architectural photographer, Tom-Scott Gordon provided what is possibly the most important testimony evidencing 911 was orchestrated by U.S. officials who indirectly hired him to unwittingly help plan the attack nine years before the operation was activated. Since then, Gordon became a targeted individual by U.S. officials and a leading 911 Truth group dismissed his testimony.

"As soon as I learned the North Tower had been hit, all I could think of was that I had personally seen the faces of those directly in charge of this operation,” Gordon said this weekend in an exclusive interview with the Examiner.

Exclusivity of this interview was not from Gordon hiding for ten years nor pleading the Fifth Amendment.

Despite threatening warnings, having been followed from city to city, having his homes broken into, and having his files ransacked while he was out of his homes, Gordon has made numerous attempts, including during the past two weeks, to provide his important testimony proving 911 was orchestrated by U.S. officials and he helped ensure that the plan succeeded.

Gordon believes his information is not meant to be exposed since he has been silenced.

WTC Building 7 demolition preparations, 1986
"I'm eyewitness to the WTC Building 7 being built in 1986-87, 'topped-out' and then, with heavy FBI security presence, covertly 'reinforced,"' Gordon stated.



"In building construction, 'topping out' is a ceremony held after the last beam is placed at top of a building. The term may also refer to overall completion of the building's structure, or an intermediate point, such as when the roof is dried in. A topping out ceremony is usually held to commemorate the event. (Wikipedia)

"Architects for 911 Truth do not want to investigate this, even though it shows years of architectural planning went into 911," Gordon told Dupré.

*** (as I've claimed MANY times previously, A&E911 is a US government front to keep the truth under wraps. That truth being the Forensic Financials and the Nuclear Demolition outlined carefully in my books below. NO ONE in the 911 truth movement has EVER provided the forensic financial analysis that I have. No One. And No One has ever analyzed the nuclear decay paths like I have. EVERYONE knows the buildings came down by controlled demolition and A&E 911 is simply designed to keep the financial records sealed and to keep you informed about controlled demolition via energetic compounds, again, something anyone with a slight heartbeat knows. What NO ONE knows is that this was a nuclear demolition and THESE are the secrets that are being kept from the world. They provide NOTHING NEW and keep everyone hoping for a new investigation which will NEVER HAPPEN.)


"Building 7 was perfectly sound," he said. "Building 7 was simply a 'land bank,' because they knew it did not match their future development plans for the overall complex. The steel framing was ostensibly required to be 'rebuilt' immediately after it was built."

"Officials at a Skillings engineers' meeting I attended in 1987 warned some 200 people who oversaw the rebuilding of Building 7 to remain silent about what they knew," Gordon said.

Skillings was the lead structural engineering firm involved with the World Trade Center.

Architects for 911 Truth head, Richard Gage told Dupré in a telephone conversation Monday that he had spoken to Gordon months ago but his information will not appear on the organization's website.

"We are only using forensic evidence," he said, adding that he welcomed another conversation with Gordon.

Twin Towers demolition planning, 1987
The Twin Towers were overdue for demolition by September 11, 2001 according to Gordon, saying his supervisors had advised their staff of this.

Being a professional photographer and having written on his resume, "SAIC graduate," Emery Roth selected Gordon to photograph the Twin Towers in May through June, 1987.

Obtaining subsequent training under architectural photographers Julius Shulman and Otto Baitz enabled Gordon to work nationwide as a free-lance specialist for over 20 years.

"While working with the original WTC architects in May of 1986, Barry Yanku assigned me to shoot, one-point elevations of all the buildings surrounding the WTC Complex over a two-month period, a very unusual assignment to say the least," he told Dupré.

"I was suspicious as to why they'd chosen me instead of their regular photographers, Ezra Stoller and Norman McGrath."

Upon moving back to Denver from New York City in 1991, answers to Gordon's questions were revealed. In Denver, he had submitted a job-application to Brown & Root’s Colorado office and had a brief introductory meeting there.

“Brown & Root then called me back for an 'urgent and mandatory meeting,' not to award me the assignment I'd sought to photograph, a huge new refinery in south Texas," Gordon said.

Gordon was met at that conference by what he said were six to eight men in black suits, only one of whom he had met a few days earlier.

"They accused me of essentially working as an impostor,” he said. "When I explained 'SAIC' is 'School Art Institute of Chicago,' they all went silent.

Gordon said that he challenged the men's right to hassle him, simply because he had "zero credit history, zero points on my license, and zero arrests.”

"Suddenly, their dark glasses went up and everyone was stammering in embarrassment as they fled for the exits."

"Later, I realized they probably selected me for the photography job because they thought I graduated from the technical division of School of the Americas, the 'military terror training facility at Fort Benning,'" Gordon said, when in fact, he graduated from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago where he studied traditional photography materials and techniques.

"Any thorough background check could have easily resolved any mystery about my experience and education."

When Emery Roth & Associates gave to Gordon the WTC assignment, their firm was about one-sixth its previous size, he said, adding, "Their expensive, nearly empty, uptown New York office might have offended any future client-prospects."

"From my experience, the most suspicious of their activities was the sudden appearance of a brand new, highly accurate, aluminum/steel, 7’9” scale model of the Twin Tower curtain wall," Gordon told the Examiner.

"That expensive scale model sat proudly in the architect’s WTC library conference room where I'd spent nearly a full week before studying the exhaustive photography archives of the WTC properties."

"By all appearances, the firm was nearly broke, so why had they commissioned such an elaborate model so many years after the buildings were complete? 'Maybe for permanent display at MOMA?' I thought, seizing that rare opportunity to touch it."

Minutes later, Gordon's boss, Mr. Yanku arrived for work that crisp Spring morning.

"He was visibly shaken to find me in presence of that sculpture. Showing outrage, he claimed the model was 'explicitly to have been returned to storage by Monday morning!'

"Suddenly, he broke into an unseasonal sweat. He then went to make a phone call," Gordon said.

“'Fine, I’ll just go to the restroom,' I said, shielding my right finger tips that were beginning to burn from a caustic gooey material applied to the inside of the spandrel panels. But soap and water accelerated the corrosive, or acidic reaction."

"Today, I contend that it was this caustic aggregate material which probably allowed the specially constructed airplanes to penetrate the building so easily."

According to Gordon, everyone associated with two firms that had been involved with the WTC, Emery Roth architects and Skillings Associates, P.C. knew the entire group of WTC buildings had outlived their usefulness due to the extraordinary expense of "keeping them alive."
In 1996, Emery Roth architectural firm ceased to operate, apparently due to financial distress.

"By the time those firms disbanded, everyone in both the architecture and engineering teams also knew someone was willing to pay a lot of money to make this knowledge-base disappear. Not having a salaried position when they disbanded, I wasn’t 'offered a promotion, and a job in Seattle,' like their full-time employees."

"My testimony explains that detailed plans to implode the Twin Towers were completed by 1987," Gordon said.

"My photo partner, Bill Charles, and I watched as Building #7 was being ‘wired’ by a secondary team after the steel framing was first completed."

Threats after knowing buildings were scheduled for demolition
Gordon said that for years after 1987, his house and apartment were rifled "evidently looking for his negatives and job log-book."

"For several months after I finished the job in New York, two men tailed my girlfriend, Natasha Grotenhaus and me around New York City. She had many more opportunities to see their faces, 'probably because they generally approached from my rear,' as she had said."

As Targeted Individuals would relate, Gordon said he was never directly confronted by the two people stalking him in New York, but he "was incredibly shaken" when he "saw them featured on the cover of TV Technology News.

"The photograph was the same two men who had been shadowing me, standing atop the WTC rubble." he said. *** See: "Capturing History at Ground Zero," Hendrik, M., TV Technology News, November 28, 2001 at the link here:
http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/14268

The two men, FEMA’s Denver-based Region 8 Deputy Public Affairs Officer Jim Chestnutt and Public Affairs Officer Kurt Sonnenfeld, had been assigned the job of photographing the WTC after the mass murders there according to TV Technology News.


"No camera crews were inside the closed-off perimeter Sept. 13 when Region 8’s head of public affairs for disasters Ed Conley arrived. He asked Chestnutt and later Sonnenfeld to capture everything possible on video," reported TV Technology News.

"When FEMA was shopping for cameras we did research about what we wanted and picked the ones that seemed best for use in external and internal video consumption," says Chestnutt. "I liked the new digital technology that allowed us to get professional-quality equipment at a lower price and because digital footage could be worked on a computer. We would be able to work out of a hotel at a disaster, edit pictures and send them from a laptop."

The only crew at Ground Zero were Chestnut, Sonnenfeld plus two still photographers, Andrea Booher and Michael Rieger. (TV Technology News)

Gordon recounted, "Some six to eight months later, they showed up with one of my ASMP photography associates at a large open house ‘homecoming’ party Natasha and I held shortly after returning home to Denver. Natasha easily made positive ID, and alerted me to pay close attention to them, which we did."

"They left within minutes," Gordon said.

Later, Gordon confronted the pair when again, they appeared out of the blue at Haidar’s Studios in Los Angeles.

"I asked Jim Chestnut point-blank; 'Why were you two assigned to shadow me in New York, Denver and now, here in LA?'”

"Chestnut said, 'This interview is over,' while Kurt Sonnenfeld turned for the door and they both quickly left.

After 911, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) quickly developed an early explanation of the collapses, that had become known as the "pancake" theory. It completed its WTC performance study in May 2002, declaring the "WTC design had been sound, and attributed the collapses wholly to extraordinary factors beyond the control of the builders."

Gordon believes the most important thing he saw on the job was the FBI clearing out every important record in Skilling's offices in Tower 1 in 1989.

He said that the most important thing he heard during that period was, "The exterior joinery of the WTC buildings has weakened significantly."

What Gordon witnessed differs to thousands of other 911 information bits and evidence. According to him, however, not one other person from either of the firms involved has spoken out much less testified. Furthermore, not one of the 911 independent researchers or groups was directly involved with the WTC buildings as Gordon was he says.

Asked why he thought people are disinterested in his testimony, Gordon said, "I've only named a few of the other 200 or so direct witnesses in former writings. None of them have dared respond to my allegations, or threatened to "sue me for liable."

"Eventually, most eye-witness accounts need to be vetted in a Federal Court Room."

Legally, if any judge was to read this, this alone would command a trial according to federal statute.

My books, free downloads, are incredibly accurate and just as astonishing and I name ALL of the people involved in this vast, massive crime.

As each day passes the data compiled in my books gains more and more credibility and traction. For that I'm extraordinarily happy!


The Office Of Naval Intelligence, The Eldorado Task Force, The Securities and Exchange Commission, Cantor-Fitzgerald, The Federal Reserve, The US Treasury, The Bank Of New York, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Nugan Hand Bank, The Bush Crime Family and the Global Bankers. A forensic financial study in criminal global finance and the events of 911.
http://www.box.net/shared/4vbu1tkq32


Vast Global Financial Fraud, gold market manipulation and what Dick Cheney and George Bush actually did while in the White House.
http://www.box.net/shared/yghazdjnmd


After 911: Connecting the SubPrime Crisis directly to the same people.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16017306/Book%20II%20Complete.pdf


"Dust" - the short version
The Physics, Mathematics & Chemistry of 911 using USGS Scanning Electron Microscopy on 35 sample locations from lower Manhattan.
http://www.box.net/shared/hf1eev4jvv



"Dust" - the full version
Part 1:
http://www.box.net/shared/9duecajohk

Part 2:
http://www.box.net/shared/h81kjfkvg9

Part 3:
http://www.box.net/shared/td6593g25y



Peace, although that's hardly likely.

truth4me
15th September 2011, 05:43
I won't forget 9/11 and yes it bogus big time. I 'm letting it go though. I've said a prayer for the victims and a prayer for the people involved "who's evil actions caused it".

ThePythonicCow
15th September 2011, 06:14
Kurt SonnenfeldAn article about Kurt Sonnenfeld: 9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public (http://www.silviacattori.net/article864.html).

Something is not adding up for me here, Dennis. I can't tell if Kurt Sonnenfeld is a "good" guy or a "bad' guy (honest, or part of the cover up.) I had him on the "good" side, but Prager's words make him seem part of the dark side.

I am aware of roughly four proposals to explain the collapse of the WTC towers on 9/11:

Destruction by fire and building pancaking (the "official story")
Destruction by controlled demolition and conventional explosives such as thermite (the dominant "9/11 Truth" scenario)
Destruction by thermonuclear demolition , with variants by Jeff Prager and Dimitri Khalezov
Destruction by directed free energy, by Judy Wood.

Presently I am undecided between variants 3 (thermonuclear) and 4 (directed energy), and leaning toward 4.

Dennis Leahy
15th September 2011, 06:14
I won't forget 9/11 and yes it bogus big time. I 'm letting it go though. I've said a prayer for the victims and a prayer for the people involved "who's evil actions caused it".
I can understand your position, and respect it, but for me, it would be like a man just raped your daughter and killed your spouse, you're sure he'll kill again, and you just allow him to walk away.

There's a reason there is no statute of limitations on murder cases, and these perpetrators have killed more than one million people, with no end in sight.

I do believe there is a time for forgiveness, so that we do not carry the karmic baggage with us, but the people responsible need to be caught so we know who it is we are trying to forgive, and to give them the chance to ask for spiritual clemency (if they want it. If they truly are sociopaths/psychopaths, I don't think they possess the emotional/spiritual circuitry to even want clemency, as it would mean that they feel guilt.)

For me, this is an extraordinary crime in scope and duration, and I believe that it is important to literally try for the rest of our lives, if necessary, to identify and stop the criminals.

Dennis

Corncrake
15th September 2011, 06:34
Thanks for sharing this extraordinary information. It is 7.30am here and I should not be on the computer so will follow the links later.

Dennis Leahy
15th September 2011, 07:08
Kurt SonnenfeldAn article about Kurt Sonnenfeld: 9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public (http://www.silviacattori.net/article864.html).

Something is not adding up for me here, Dennis. I can't tell if Kurt Sonnenfeld is a "good" guy or a "bad' guy (honest, or part of the cover up.) I had him on the "good" side, but Prager's words make him seem part of the dark side.

I am aware of roughly four proposals to explain the collapse of the WTC towers on 9/11:

Destruction by fire and building pancaking (the "official story")
Destruction by controlled demolition and conventional explosives such as thermite (the dominant "9/11 Truth" scenario)
Destruction by thermonuclear demolition , with variants by Jeff Prager and Dimitri Khalezov
Destruction by directed free energy, by Judy Wood.

Presently I am undecided between variants 3 (thermonuclear) and 4 (directed energy), and leaning toward 4.

Paul, I did a lousy job with nested quotes, but have fixed them now. It was not apparent from my post that Jeff was quoting an article.

In either of your options 3 and 4 listed above, the MO is (AFAIK) unprecedented. USGS samples of the dust do show levels of radioactive isotopes that are out of character, i.e., not just background levels, and not in levels that have other rational explanation (as some have tried to suggest with things like the phosphors on CRT monitors.) So, score one point for nuclear.

Whether it was nuclear or directed energy (almost undoubtedly also using a combination of thermite and some conventional explosives that we hear in the videos) the method was brand-new or at least something never used in public view before (such as an upwardly directed mini-nuke buried in each basement and softball sized micro-nukes on strategic floors), or if an energy beam weapon was used, well, ... who knows what that would look like.

Based on the aerial pulverization to dust, and the relatively small pile of metal debris (especially the towers) I am convinced more than thermite was used. Based on the visible, top-down, floor-by-floor, outward explosions in the towers, I have a hard time envisioning a directed beam weapon on the exterior of the building, so it would probably have to have been individual devices on nearly every floor radiating energy. Not impossible, but difficult to wrap my head around an energy weapon that imploded building 7 and exploded buildings 1&2.

Dennis (2 am here, and I need some sleep)

Calz
15th September 2011, 07:38
Destruction by thermonuclear demolition , with variants by Jeff Prager and Dimitri Khalezov
Destruction by directed free energy, by Judy Wood.

Presently I am undecided between variants 3 (thermonuclear) and 4 (directed energy), and leaning toward 4.

I am with you Paul.

Judy Wood's massive array of photos tell a story to those with eyes to see. Could even be a combination of the two.

jcocks
15th September 2011, 08:17
I won't forget 9/11 and yes it bogus big time. I 'm letting it go though. I've said a prayer for the victims and a prayer for the people involved "who's evil actions caused it".
I can understand your position, and respect it, but for me, it would be like a man just raped your daughter and killed your spouse, you're sure he'll kill again, and you just allow him to walk away.

There's a reason there is no statute of limitations on murder cases, and these perpetrators have killed more than one million people, with no end in sight.

I do believe there is a time for forgiveness, so that we do not carry the karmic baggage with us, but the people responsible need to be caught so we know who it is we are trying to forgive, and to give them the chance to ask for spiritual clemency (if they want it. If they truly are sociopaths/psychopaths, I don't think they possess the emotional/spiritual circuitry to even want clemency, as it would mean that they feel guilt.)

For me, this is an extraordinary crime in scope and duration, and I believe that it is important to literally try for the rest of our lives, if necessary, to identify and stop the criminals.

Dennis

Just a thought : Have you considered for a moment, what would happen if the truth about 911 were to come out in MSM........ Do you, in your heart of hearts, believe that would be in the best interests of America *AT THIS TIME*.... ?

I've come to my conclusions, but would like to see what you guys think so will wait for some discussion before I let them be known..

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th September 2011, 08:42
Wow Dennis. Your 9/11 threads are really really intersting. Keep them coming. Intersting info.

Dennis Leahy
15th September 2011, 15:12
Just a thought : Have you considered for a moment, what would happen if the truth about 911 were to come out in MSM........ Do you, in your heart of hearts, believe that would be in the best interests of America *AT THIS TIME*.... ?

I've come to my conclusions, but would like to see what you guys think so will wait for some discussion before I let them be known..

Hmmmmmmm. the phrase "in the best interests of America" is a deeply disturbing phrase to me. That phrase has been used countless times to justify wars, death, environmental and infrastructural destruction, imperial thrust, resource theft, assassinations and governmental overthrows, stripping nations of their sovereignty, financial debt slavery, and subservient status of all those "lucky" enough to have survived the onslaught of hell that America brought to their country.

"The best interests of America" is subjective. For those of us that are trying to be grounded in truth and compassion, the best interests of America are, first of all, trumped by Universal truths, and the needs of humanity. The real, honest, and true interests of America, the only real chance for a redemption for America, will most certainly be fostered by the bare naked truth about 9/11.

Corporations, banks, and the military/intelligence/"defense" industries have a completely different concept of what the phrase "the best interests of America" means, and their leaders - believing in an Ameri-centric planetary dominion and manifest destiny group-think - could probably pass a polygraph when asked if the subjugation and exploitation of the entire planet is in the best interests of America. Their logic is sick and twisted, sociopathic and greed-driven.

"At this time" the Ameri-centric corporations, banks, and the military/intelligence/"defense" industries are planning the next 12 moves on the 3-D chessboard called planet Earth. For all of the people who are considered as "pawns" and are utterly expendable without raising the heart rate of the sociopathic chess masters one beat per minute, yes, exposing and stopping the sociopaths "at this time" is the only chance these people will ever get.

Dennis
p.s. If possible, I think it would be good not to stray too far away from the topic (as I just did in answering your question), and examine this new evidence of 9/11 disclosure. One of these disclosures will be "the final straw" or will trigger "the 100th monkey effect" - maybe it will be this disclosure.

aranuk
15th September 2011, 16:37
I agree with you Dennis in most of what you say here. The most important thing in the world as far as I am concerned is the exposure to the entire population of the planet of these criminals. We, as in the human race, should not loosen our bite here as we have these criminals by the balls. They are grimacing like hell at the moment I suspect. I watched the Judy Wood interview with Mel Fabrigas I think his name was and she has got some really important evidence. I must order her book today. The WTC crime was well planned in advance in my view. Only the American citizens can press for a proper investigation. However an investigation very soon would in my opinion be too early as the REAL FACTS may take a few more weeks, months or years to make a certain watertight case. Who knows that it wasn't only one method used? It may have been a combination of 2, 3, 4 or even a fifth factor that hasn't been discovered yet. For sure it was well planned and carried out because no one yet knows what the heck really went on. So we must all try and find out. I think the exposure of the 911 crime of the century is the best thing we can do with our time here.

Stan

Carmody
15th September 2011, 16:55
If the 'plan' is shown to be with a deeper history then that just takes attempts to fathom the truth of the matter in to a darker corner with more difficult to process avenues for discussion. It takes it further from being possible for the general member of the public -to understand.

Further, if I read some of the above information correctly:

Besides, planting anything into a system, into a metal body of a few giant buildings... in 1987 ....is about as unlikely as can be.

The article will not dissuade realists who understand such things but it can distract others who might not know better.

Basically, you simply can't implant some bizarre 1987 technology into a building for disposal/explosion/collapse purposes, and expect it to be fully operational, fully functional... and without discovery....in 2001.

Dennis Leahy
15th September 2011, 18:11
Hi Carmody,
I could not understand your first sentence. Can you explain what you mean by this:

If the 'plan' is shown to be with a deeper history then that just takes attempts to fathom the truth of the matter in to a darker corner with more difficult to process avenues for discussion.
I also don't know why it would be difficult to understand: a photographer says he witnessed demolition wiring and or devices being incorporated into WTC 7, and believes he witnessed the architects modeling/testing a caustic substance to paint on the metal to purposely weaken its structural integrity.


...Besides, planting anything into a system, into a metal body of a few giant buildings... in 1987 ....is about as unlikely as can be.

The article will not dissuade realists who understand such things but it can distract others who might not know better.

Basically, you simply can't implant some bizarre 1987 technology into a building for disposal/explosion/collapse purposes, and expect it to be fully operational, fully functional... and without discovery....in 2001.
Every single modern building we have ever been in has wiring, pipes, and conduit inside the walls - completely hidden from all eyes. Later, those in the know can break through small sections of wall and tap into wires, make or break connections, add pipe or faucets or outlets. Why would it be difficult to believe that wiring in walls could go without discovery for years?

It is true that old-fashioned TNT does become more and more unstable over the course of time (because of chemical changes), but it will still blow up decades later. Old unexploded land mines continue to explode decades later. The US military, black-ops divisions of military intelligence, (and even commercial demolition firms) certainly had explosives and or cutter charges (thermate, thermite, or similar) in 1987 that would stay stable until 2001 (14 years.)

To me, what I find most significant in the disclosure is that specific people and specific architectural firms are "named"/implicated. Based on human nature, this is likely how the big picture of the conspiracies of 9/11 will unravel - when specific people get named, and start trying to explain their way out of the lies, and end up implicating others in an attempt to cover their own ass.

Those that have read Wade Frazier's account of Dennis Lee's experiences with the US justice system will know why I personally feel that we will not get 9/11 justice - even if there are major disclosures and people are arraigned and go to trial - until and unless we completely overhaul the US justice system (or at least dismiss the lifetime appointed gatekeepers/federal judges.) That is one reason The Reset Button document included a major judicial overhaul for the US, in a constitutional amendment and a law (at first blush, about election reform.)

Dennis

ceetee9
15th September 2011, 18:23
Just a thought : Have you considered for a moment, what would happen if the truth about 911 were to come out in MSM........ Do you, in your heart of hearts, believe that would be in the best interests of America *AT THIS TIME*.... ?

I've come to my conclusions, but would like to see what you guys think so will wait for some discussion before I let them be known..

Hmmmmmmm. the phrase "in the best interests of America" is a deeply disturbing phrase to me. That phrase has been used countless times to justify wars, death, environmental and infrastructural destruction, imperial thrust, resource theft, assassinations and governmental overthrows, stripping nations of their sovereignty, financial debt slavery, and subservient status of all those "lucky" enough to have survived the onslaught of hell that America brought to their country.

"The best interests of America" is subjective. For those of us that are trying to be grounded in truth and compassion, the best interests of America are, first of all, trumped by Universal truths, and the needs of humanity. The real, honest, and true interests of America, the only real chance for a redemption for America, will most certainly be fostered by the bare naked truth about 9/11.

Corporations, banks, and the military/intelligence/"defense" industries have a completely different concept of what the phrase "the best interests of America" means, and their leaders - believing in an Ameri-centric planetary dominion and manifest destiny group-think - could probably pass a polygraph when asked if the subjugation and exploitation of the entire planet is in the best interests of America. Their logic is sick and twisted, sociopathic and greed-driven.

"At this time" the Ameri-centric corporations, banks, and the military/intelligence/"defense" industries are planning the next 12 moves on the 3-D chessboard called planet Earth. For all of the people who are considered as "pawns" and are utterly expendable without raising the heart rate of the sociopathic chess masters one beat per minute, yes, exposing and stopping the sociopaths "at this time" is the only chance these people will ever get.

Dennis
p.s. If possible, I think it would be good not to stray too far away from the topic (as I just did in answering your question), and examine this new evidence of 9/11 disclosure. One of these disclosures will be "the final straw" or will trigger "the 100th monkey effect" - maybe it will be this disclosure.
Well stated Dennis! I absolutely agree with you (for what it's worth).

EYES WIDE OPEN
15th September 2011, 18:30
Just did a quick google for the author of the 9/11 photographer bit. It seems she and Ian R. Crane (I think he is a NWO researcher?) are both tied up in some kind of law suite?
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2011/09/07/ian-r-crane-named-co-defendant-in-lawsui

Not had time to read up on the full story. Thought I would post it to get your thoughts or maybe somebody who is up to speed on this could explain?