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kathymarie
16th September 2011, 13:17
Here is a compelling video of footage of "what" hit the Pentagon on 9/11...

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Davidallany
16th September 2011, 13:19
This is huge, who filmed this?

kathymarie
16th September 2011, 13:49
It was uploaded to youtube by gpduf...the footage is CNN stock footage....if you read comments it appears some believe the footage may be cut and spliced but I don't think so. I remember seeing this footage and similar comments shortly after the attack then I couldn't find it when I searched for it. I think similar footage and conclusions were drawn in the film "Loose Change"...but it has been awhile since I saw that film as well. I did just order a copy of it as well as a copy of "September Clues"....

ulli
16th September 2011, 13:53
While I am certain that the Pentagon was not hit by a plane I have some problem with rhat video.
That picture of that whole is not taken at the Pentagon.

kathymarie
16th September 2011, 13:58
What are you basing your info on, Ulli? Just curious... because I trust your judgments and information. However, the HOLE showing on the evening news on 9/11 looked remarkably circular...that's the first thing I noticed and wondered if the wings of an airplane had been sheared off why weren't they right up against the building. Additionally, that first days footage showed very little debris or damage to the grounds.

EYES WIDE OPEN
16th September 2011, 14:02
This video is fake. It is some stock footage of the Pentagon. Search '35mm Stock Footage of Washington DC aerials also availabe in High Definition' on google video. Also, if you look at the point of impact, it is in the wrong spot. Look at photos and video from that day. The impact happened on the other side of that helipad (the white square).
Also, that missile with the AA design is photoshopped. Anorthe hoax exposed.
Save your money - dont by Sept clues. It filled with BAD research. Just trying to save you money. watch it on the web for free instead.

ulli
16th September 2011, 14:09
I'd have to do some research to come up with picture to compare side by side.
As I said the general evidence points to a missile. Not even the lawn in front of the building showed damage.
I was one of those who saw the first plane stuck in the WTC and knew intuitively that it was an inside job so I'm long converted.
When Bush wiggled his way into the White House as had been predicted already in 1998 he would it was clear that there was a plan in place to finish what his dad had started with the gulf war 10 years earlier. When he appointed his cabinet it became even more obvious. It was a war cabinet.
I just think there is already enough evidence out there, that shows clearly what happened at the pentagon. Did you see that movie "in plane sight"?

TigaHawk
16th September 2011, 15:17
I am confuzed as to why people believed in the first place that a jumbo jet would make an impact hole of a missile in the side of a building, instead of causing it to collapse entirely on that size if a real plane had of hit it due to the wings and body + tail all impacting the wall as well.

Oouthere
16th September 2011, 15:20
When you compare the "official" released video and this one, they do not match. The flames of the parking lot video roll over the building, this one does not.

EYES WIDE OPEN
16th September 2011, 18:33
Exactly. Well spotted. Too many fake videos around.

EYES WIDE OPEN
16th September 2011, 18:46
photos of wreckage and bodies
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/conclusions/index.html

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Can this be moved to the 9/11 sub-forum?

Bollinger
16th September 2011, 19:15
I'd have to do some research to come up with picture to compare side by side.
As I said the general evidence points to a missile. Not even the lawn in front of the building showed damage.
I was one of those who saw the first plane stuck in the WTC and knew intuitively that it was an inside job so I'm long converted.
When Bush wiggled his way into the White House as had been predicted already in 1998 he would it was clear that there was a plan in place to finish what his dad had started with the gulf war 10 years earlier. When he appointed his cabinet it became even more obvious. It was a war cabinet.
I just think there is already enough evidence out there, that shows clearly what happened at the pentagon. Did you see that movie "in plane sight"?

Absolutely correct. There is simply far too much evidence, real tangible evidence surrounding all of the events of 9/11 that make mince meat out of the official version. Just imagine how the alternative community would look if they came up with what is in the official version and mainstream media actually reported the truth. However, there is a great psychological barrier that the majority of people simply won't or can't get over. First of all it is the irrational belief that their government cannot do such a thing. The second is that the media reinforces that view and utterly dismisses any notion of an alternative viewpoint because that is their primary purpose.

Once you have these two powerful forces in place it is virtually impossible to see through it unless you're prepared to call a spade a spade and follow the evidence, the motive, all that has transpired since and all who benefited. But for most people it is simply a bridge too far and they prefer to live in ignorance and denial. I often tell people to just take a small peek at what is being said. No. It's a waste of time they say. No, you're mad, they bark. They come to these conclusions in seconds. That is what we're faced with.

Those who look at things objectively and reach a completely different conclusion from the official version, be they academics, engineers, fire authorities, demolition experts; to those who label themselves patriots, none of it matters.

Even in a majority of 70%, a lie is still a lie.

EYES WIDE OPEN
16th September 2011, 19:19
IMO it was not a missile. There are bodies and engine parts.

The real question I think is not what hit it, but that it was allowed to hit it. The most secure airspace in America was hit when the whole world already knew that it was under attack.

Andre
19th September 2011, 13:14
IMO it was not a missile. There are bodies and engine parts. The real question I think is not what hit it, but that it was allowed to hit it. The most secure airspace in America was hit when the whole world already knew that it was under attack.

Are you for real? Are you saying you actually believe a plane hit the Pentagon? Forget the fake videos. You only have to look at "official" footage of the hole in the Pentagon to know that it was not a plane. And no marks on the grass? A few bits and pieces on the ground. No luggage, wing parts, seats, fuselage, undercarriage? Who are you Eyes Wide Shut?

Ontarioguy
19th September 2011, 14:10
I like what what "eyes wide open" said....."The real question I think is not what hit it, but that it was allowed to hit it" However, if it was in his opinion, not a missile, and not a plane, then what was the object the crashed into the building? Or ummm was there NO object at all...and just faked imagery of an object streaking toward the building.....along with an explosive inside that went off and did the damage ?? hmmm????

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2011, 20:12
IMO it was not a missile. There are bodies and engine parts. The real question I think is not what hit it, but that it was allowed to hit it. The most secure airspace in America was hit when the whole world already knew that it was under attack.

Are you for real? Are you saying you actually believe a plane hit the Pentagon? Forget the fake videos. You only have to look at "official" footage of the hole in the Pentagon to know that it was not a plane. And no marks on the grass? A few bits and pieces on the ground. No luggage, wing parts, seats, fuselage, undercarriage? Who are you Eyes Wide Shut?

What do you mean who am I? What do you mean "Am I for real?". What are you suggesting? Care to explain? Thanks.

I call it as I see it. I already pointed out two doctored videos in the last 2 weeks that many people bought into without a second thought.

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photos of wreckage and bodies
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html

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Here is an earlier post.

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2011, 20:22
if you have an open mind regarding the Pentagon then please read this.
http://stj911.org/legge/Legge_Chandler_NOC_Refutation.html

It is to be hoped that those who have been puzzled by the apparently contradictory assertions surrounding the Pentagon attack, will now see that it is appropriate to withdraw support for the divisive notion that no plane hit the Pentagon.

This issue is one of the most divisive in the truth movement. I have swayed both ways in the last few years but after much reading, feel that a plane did hit the pentagon. The evidenceis far far stronger for this than that of a missile.
I feel the videos that are being withheld are being done so to distract the truth movemnt and keep the redundant debate regarding the Penatgon going for ever which will achieve nothing.

Billy
19th September 2011, 20:38
I watched this video documentary in 2009, Intervews with locals and police witnesses on the ground at the time of the so called attack.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o#

WhiteFeather
19th September 2011, 20:45
Interesting!

EYES WIDE OPEN
19th September 2011, 21:03
CIT who produced that video have a track record of attacking those that don't agree with them and manipulating evidence. Please dont just take my word for it. Research it yourself. :) Richard Gage withdrew his support of them (like any good and unbiased scientist should) once he realised their methods were poor.

TigaHawk
20th September 2011, 01:45
Wouldent/couldent the bodies have been from people inside the building at the time?

Did they not also drop bodies/parts at the site where they claim the people on the plane rebelled and took it down themselves? Yet the "crash site" looks like someone dug a ditch and threw around metal scraps and lit a few fires.

chancy
20th September 2011, 02:25
Good Day everyone:
I find that there's alot of bickering amongst everyone in regards to 911. It seems that most everyone believes it's an inside job but to prove who the inside people were appears to not matter since nothing would happen to them even if they were caught.
As far as that dreadful day in September of 2001 which changed eveyones life whether they wanted it changed or not I submit this video. I am not sure if it's legit or fake but this General gives compelling evidence that a plane did not hit the Pentagon.
I have a friend who was at the pentagon on 911 and he never saw a plane............That's all I know..........All I can offer is lots of questions......
Enjoy the video
Chancy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E

Spellbound
20th September 2011, 02:32
Personally, I don't think a plane hit the Pentagon. In Plane Sight is an excellent documentary that spells out exactly why it wasn't a plane (the roof was fully intact for a half hour following the hit and the height of the tail of the plane simply could not have fit through the hole...never mind the wing-span). If you look at the desks in the offices that were blown open due to the hit...you can actually see pages of books that aren't even charred (let alone burned)....for which a commercial jet full of jet fuel would certainly have destroyed. The most compelling evidense for me is the circular hole and the lack of plane debris (compared to many other photos of plane collisions, the Pentagon has absolutely no debris resembling a plane....nevermind the luggage or body parts or what-have-you). As I usually say to anyone debating the Pentagon hit....show me the plane!!

However, the flipside of this arguement that I can never fully understand....if it wasn't a commercial jet that hit the Pentagon....what happened to the jet?? There were 64 people on Flight 77 (including Barbara Olson) that disappeared that day. If they didn't fly into the Pentagon...what happened to them??

Dave - Toronto

EYES WIDE OPEN
20th September 2011, 08:03
The main pervayors of the no plane theories are all guilty of sensationalism and lack of critical thinking. Their videos are very clever and manipulative. They fooled me for a while.
The "In Plane Site" doc got top billing in the Popular Mechanics attack hit piece a few years back and they used its ill-founded claims to smear the entire 9/11 Truth community. It was like shooting fish in a barrel becuase that film is filled with errors. This is why this kind of information needs to be exposed for what it is.
Namely MISinformation. Its these easy targets that are used to smear the rest if the movement. The 9/11 truth movment needs to realise this.

The CIT group who produced the films, PentaCon and National Security Alert are far worse however.
One of the main defects of the PentaCon is that it only considers four eyewitness statements—ignoring a very large body of eyewitness statements and previous research into the testimony.
Citing only evidence that is favorable to one side as if no contrary evidence exists is known as SPECIAL PLEADING and is EXACTLY THE SAME THING THOSE THAT WROTE THE WORK OF FICTION THAT IS THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT ARE GUILTY OF TOO.
Why have double standards?

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I am going to write a post about what I consider to be mis-information within the movement that will address documenatries and individuals within the movement. It will be a long post so give me some time.

Cidersomerset
25th September 2011, 20:04
I have just put this interview on another thread , but in part of it Webster Tarpley explains how in 2007 the Neo cons tried to cause a false flag event by using a rogue B52 loaded with cruise missiles

to attack Iran, interesting if true would also confirm they had access to cruise missiles to hit the Pentagon...

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The other bit that is hard to believe is the clean hole left by the 'plane' !! and the roof was still intact for while after the strike, and look at the lack of smoke and furniture damage !!!!

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Cheers Steve..

Lord Sidious
25th September 2011, 20:11
I have just put this interview on another thread , but in part of it Webster Tarpley explains how in 2007 the Neo cons tried to cause a false flag event by using a rogue B52 loaded with cruise missiles

to attack Iran, interesting if true would also confirm they had access to cruise missiles to hit the Pentagon...

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Cheers Steve..

Just about to hit the sack, is that the one that left Louisiana with live tomahawks on board and went missing?
They had a genuine broken arrow event over that and that was about that time.
They claimed that they lost one, then said it was a mistake, it wasn't loaded in Louisiana.
As if we would believe that they had some type of counting error with a live tomahawk.

Cidersomerset
25th September 2011, 20:17
Totally out the box, could a missile be cloaked in hologram tech to make it look like a plane ??? That maybe a step to far ..LOL

Lord Sidious
25th September 2011, 20:21
Totally out the box, could a missile be cloaked in hologram tech to make it look like a plane ??? That maybe a step to far ..LOL

Whilst that is possible, I would ask if it is probable?
I would think not, nugget.
Sorry. :p

Cidersomerset
25th September 2011, 20:26
Your probably right Sid, I watched Fringe earlier on, great stuff probably getting a little carried away with parrallel worlds, cybernetic humans and 'time watchers' LOL......Have a good kip....Cheers Steve

Cidersomerset
25th September 2011, 20:38
I know this clip has been played before, but it is significant that as the reporter said he had a close up inspection and there was no significant sign of any plane hitting the Pentagon !!!!!!!! and if it did disintergrate in one big explosion why is all the furniture and books and computors in remakably good condition !!!

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Cidersomerset
25th September 2011, 22:07
Hi a few nice Freudian slips............9/11 commisioner lets slip the missile hit the Pentagon and Rumsfeldts slip about shooting down the plane in Pensylvania

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Which ties in with Bills audio interview with Elizebeth Nelson about flight 93...

http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles/audio/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93.mp3

Cidersomerset
25th September 2011, 22:43
This is something Muzz put up a couple of weeks ago that nobody seemed to have noticed and is very telling .In the run up to 9/11 there were many drills covering the exact scenarios of

the the attacks they set up on the day....46 drills somebody in the military was very well prepared for 9/11

http://tarpley.net/docs/drills_of_911.pdf

Andre
26th September 2011, 00:45
It is to be hoped that those who have been puzzled by the apparently contradictory assertions surrounding the Pentagon attack, will now see that it is appropriate to withdraw support for the divisive notion that no plane hit the Pentagon. This issue is one of the most divisive in the truth movement. I have swayed both ways in the last few years but after much reading, feel that a plane did hit the pentagon. The evidence is far far stronger for this than that of a missile. I feel the videos that are being withheld are being done so to distract the truth movemnt and keep the redundant debate regarding the Penatgon going for ever which will achieve nothing.

OK, Eyes Wide Shut, please explain to us how this could be a plane? As far as I am concerned, at this point, the official photos of the impact zone clearly reveal that the "foot print" is not that of a commercial plane. You do not have to look further if the visual evidence is overwhelming. The enormous plane engines and wings are completely missing from the impact zone. And please don't insult my intelligence by asserting that only the front of the fuselage hit the building and that the plane suddenly (?) stopped short of the building. That is impossible given the angle and speed at impact. However, since you seem to be convinced that it was a plane, please explain this photo to me in an intelligent manner. I am intrigued. (At this stage, I will state that I am not interested in video opinions or witness footage that can be fabricated). Explain the photo in a convincing manner and I will then investigate further. Fair enough?

http://publicintelligence.net/911-pentagon-damage-high-resolution-aerial-photos/

KiwiElf
26th September 2011, 01:25
Some witnesses claim they did see a small white jet hit the Pentagon.

The "engine parts" in the debris field have been proven to have NOT come from a 757 - ANY 757. Period. (in "Loose Change" and "In Plane Site" and goodness knows how many articles and YouTube vids). And I should emphasize that only ONE engine was found: a 757 has two. Whatever engine was in the debris did not come from a Boeing 757, Pratt & Whitney or Rolls Royce engine of any description nor was it an APU (Auxilliary Power Unit).

The central hub wheel of the turbine and shattered diffuser casing shown in the debris were identified as a JT8D Turbojet (as opposed to Turbofan) coming from a now obsolete Airforce A3 Sky Warrior jet, the only operational versions of which are stored at Van Nuys, Hughs Aircraft/Raytheon in California. (I don't think I need to mention that Raytheon have frequently been cited as being involved in numerous Black Ops)

Either a jet of this size or a cruise missile would account for the relatively small impact hole (the fuselage of a 757 would NOT fit into this hole), and the fact that it went through 3 layers of reinforced concrete walls.

Even if an aircraft of 757 proportions could have been crashed into the Pentagon as per the "official story", the tail section should have been relatively intact, impact marks of the wings should be visible (they aren't) and the engines, which are 9ft in diameter and weigh 6 tons each should be the biggest chunks as they would have impacted the ground first and sheered off - that's what they are designed to do. Once again, jet fuel alone does not burn hot enough to melt titanium (let alone "vaporise" it as per the "official story").

The wheel hub found in the debris belongs to various smaller military type jet fighters - also does not match a 757.

And what was in the big box, hidden by a blue tarp, being removed from the debris field?

If you want to see some comparisons I refer you to search for photos of the impact site of the Air New Zealand Fllight DC-10 which struck Mt Erebus back in Nov 1979. This aircraft hit the side of a snowy mountain at similar speeds (ie cruise speed). The tail section was almost entirely intact. The next biggest pieces were the engines and parts of the fuselage.

The surveillance video which was eventually shown of the Pentagon explosion also shows a slim white streak before the explosion. Play it frame by frame. No plane.

KiwiElf
26th September 2011, 02:14
Totally out the box, could a missile be cloaked in hologram tech to make it look like a plane ??? That maybe a step to far ..LOL

No, it's not :) If,... and I do say IF,.. the holographic theory turns out to be correct for the impacts at the WTC hold up.
You now need to jump your research out of 9/11 and go into Black Ops and developments which have been made in this field (supposedly).
A holographic emitter is allegedly small enough to placed in a compact car, the car can be "disguised" to look like pretty much anything but does have limitations as to range, ie the image may appear to break up at certain angles and distances. It can also be rendered completely "invisible".

When you're researching something like this, be open to everything that is suggested, whether or not you agree with it. It keeps you unbiased and objective at least. That means you have to "hop around" many different areas of research; black ops, UFOs (ummm the ones made right here with your tax dollars) and advanced technologies. May I recommend Darla Ken Jensen Pearce's post here and the many references contained within it.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30260-Anti-Gravity-and-Secret-Space-Program

Cidersomerset
26th September 2011, 09:15
I agree KiwiElf and I'm certainly open to most things if John Lear, Andrew Basiago ,Gary Mc kinnon among others testomonies are correct there are all manner of ways they could have brought down the towers. The capsule under the planes that hit the tower are they missiles ? remote control tech ? allthough I would have thought auto pilot would have done the trick, was it holographic ommiters ? pod full of extra explosives ?
Its great to speculate and I think there must have been something extra, as well as possibly nano thermite, that the towers disintergrated to dust. So I am definately openminded !!!

Strange pod on belly of plane
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Hologram tech ???
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Reporter saw no plane , could the news footage be fake...
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Eye witnes said he saw it all no plane, a bomb !
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There is plenty to speculate about as we all know, probably to much !!! it could be any of these or a combination, or something more exotic, just not a cia asset sitting in a cave.!!11

EYES WIDE OPEN
27th September 2011, 17:13
It is to be hoped that those who have been puzzled by the apparently contradictory assertions surrounding the Pentagon attack, will now see that it is appropriate to withdraw support for the divisive notion that no plane hit the Pentagon. This issue is one of the most divisive in the truth movement. I have swayed both ways in the last few years but after much reading, feel that a plane did hit the pentagon. The evidence is far far stronger for this than that of a missile. I feel the videos that are being withheld are being done so to distract the truth movemnt and keep the redundant debate regarding the Penatgon going for ever which will achieve nothing.

OK, Eyes Wide Shut, please explain to us how this could be a plane? As far as I am concerned, at this point, the official photos of the impact zone clearly reveal that the "foot print" is not that of a commercial plane. You do not have to look further if the visual evidence is overwhelming. The enormous plane engines and wings are completely missing from the impact zone. And please don't insult my intelligence by asserting that only the front of the fuselage hit the building and that the plane suddenly (?) stopped short of the building. That is impossible given the angle and speed at impact. However, since you seem to be convinced that it was a plane, please explain this photo to me in an intelligent manner. I am intrigued. (At this stage, I will state that I am not interested in video opinions or witness footage that can be fabricated). Explain the photo in a convincing manner and I will then investigate further. Fair enough?

http://publicintelligence.net/911-pentagon-damage-high-resolution-aerial-photos/

I have injured my right hand so typing is painful. Give me time and I will try and answer your points. :)

KiwiElf
27th September 2011, 23:41
"Also, that missile with the AA design is photoshopped. Anorthe hoax exposed."

EWO is correct about this. This image (and many others) comes from the Orion Conspiracy website, but the artist is perhaps "hinting" in the right direction, as many of the other pics on this site do, plus a great little movie: a modern-day "Alternative 3" and well-worth a look. But I will say this: Don't throw the baby out with bathwater! SOME of the images on the Orion site are Photoshopped and some are not.

http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/

WhiteFeather
28th September 2011, 00:02
Hi a few nice Freudian slips............9/11 commisioner lets slip the missile hit the Pentagon and Rumsfeldts slip about shooting down the plane in Pensylvania

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Which ties in with Bills audio interview with Elizebeth Nelson about flight 93...

http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles/audio/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93.mp3

He did just say missile didnt he?

aquamarine
19th December 2011, 20:14
hello everybody this is my first time posting, blessed be to all xxxx imho i think everybody here is right !!!!!! what if this is what happened....... highjackers flying to pentagon, jets are scrambled but extremely late in getting in the air, catch up with the plane just before it hits the pentagon, and shoot a missile at it and both hit the pentagon. hmmmm ???????

buckminster fuller
19th December 2011, 20:36
Building 7 falling is enough in itself to prove the 911 scam anyway...

toad
19th December 2011, 21:57
Hi a few nice Freudian slips............9/11 commisioner lets slip the missile hit the Pentagon and Rumsfeldts slip about shooting down the plane in Pensylvania

o3LJXoXpAHE

Which ties in with Bills audio interview with Elizebeth Nelson about flight 93...

http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles/audio/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93.mp3

This is silly, do I really have to explain why someone might consider a plane used to destroy or cause harm to others is refereed to as a missile? Are we really going to take out of context statements made by firemen loitering around saying its 'as if' such and such a thing happened? Is this the kind of evidence we're really going to discuss?

That original footage is a horrible fake, the contrast isnt even right, it looks terrible. There are far better theories to be entertaining here, why are we arguing about whether or not a plane was used, or if explosions were used, or anything else. These 9/11 theories have gotten so horrible abstract, it distracts us from the who and the why.

I think I've said similar things in similar threads, but I'll say it again; Alot of these theories give the US gov't far too much credit, we all know they suck at doing anything right and without mistakes. Whenever you perpetrate a highly orchestrated plan you'll want to do it with the least amount of people involved to lesson the chance of any leaks, esp a plan as sensitive as this. You'll also want to include as lil variables as possible to lesson the chance of any kind of error. I personally believe a plane hit the Pentagon, planes hit the towers, etc.. But they were motived to do so by some malicious characters within the US gov't, of which allowed it to happen. There are far too many anomalies surrounding that day that support this.

Camilo
14th January 2013, 22:36
http://youtu.be/5cFewUG3rSY (3 min. video)

"Suppressed video released 10 years
after 9/11 attacks in the United States
clearly shows the Pentagon attack was
a Cruise type missile, either a Tomahawk
or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by
former officer of the Soviet nuclear
intelligence, Dimitri Khalezov.

"The little explosions which have been
circled in the video clearly point out that
"there is no huge jet" hammering into the
Pentagon, Khalezov explains."

PurpleLama
14th January 2013, 22:55
5cFewUG3rSY

DreamsInDigital
14th January 2013, 23:09
It was a Calcm AG 80 Missile fired from a Submarine off Shore. I believe it was either a German or Israeli Sub. The Missile was painted to look like an AA Airplane.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
14th January 2013, 23:44
THANK YOU for having the courage to keep this alive!

GD Bush and Cheney >:C

Slorri
14th January 2013, 23:55
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

TargeT
15th January 2013, 00:48
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

that is a very busy air traffic area, there very well could have been.


the quality of that video is so terrible it's useless really.

WhiteFeather
15th January 2013, 01:37
Thanks Op for the video.......There are more security cameras in a Walmart at any given day, than there was at The Pentagon. This should incite some curiousity and suspicion in itself. I heard it was a granite bunker buster. I could be wrong. Anywhoo I did see that photo shoot of Donald "The Duck" Rumsfeld as he helped carry out an injured citizen. See image below. So I took out a huge can of bathroom deodorizer. Couldnt bare the stench of the fresh bullsh!t eminating from this false flag event. I wasnt fooled and this program failed. Karmas a bitch I often say. Donnie Boy Osmond may have to come back as a rectal suppository in his next incarnation. Oh What a sh!tty way to incarnate back to this planet again.


http://statter911.com/files/2011/09/Donald-Rumsfeld-on-September-11.jpg

Click here for image of rectal suppository being inserted (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZiKCIawjFRo/TG_7EQaYOgI/AAAAAAAAAu4/rsuD8Cn8Il8/s1600/suppository_treatment.jpg)

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foreverfan
15th January 2013, 01:49
Democrats and Republicans... two sides of the same evil coin.

Operator
15th January 2013, 02:14
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

Good perception. Circumstances could add info to a situation.



that is a very busy air traffic area, there very well could have been.


Yeah but one with a camera, which is rolling on the right time and pointed in the right direction?
I don't know the exact situation but I assume there is a wide no-fly zone around the pentagon,
especially to prevent observation from the air close-by.


the quality of that video is so terrible it's useless really.

Yes it is bad but maybe not useless. It is so bad that it is even difficult to establish without
a doubt that this is indeed live footage near the pentagon on that date.
If that can be established in another way then the footage is clear enough to prove that the
size of the projectile is far smaller than a jet aircraft.

WhiteFeather
15th January 2013, 02:40
The 1st rap song i actually liked. Sorry if im deviating a little from the thread topic. I think i might have attention deficit disorder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11FCYvFZk9Y

WhiteFeather
15th January 2013, 02:53
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

that is a very busy air traffic area, there very well could have been.


the quality of that video is so terrible it's useless really.

I know the video sucks terribly as you stated, i agree...... but does that look like a 747.

DreamsInDigital
15th January 2013, 02:58
You can see the photos at this link here of the exact missile that hit the Pentagon. Painted to look like an AA Airplane.
http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/html/11_09_2001.html

Whiskey_Mystic
15th January 2013, 03:10
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

that is a very busy air traffic area, there very well could have been.


the quality of that video is so terrible it's useless really.

I know the video sucks terribly as you stated, i agree...... but does that look like a 747.

I think the point is that the video won't convince anyone of anything. Probably nothing will.

Operator
15th January 2013, 03:52
I think the point is that the video won't convince anyone of anything. Probably nothing will.

You're right. We don't need the video, this photo is not blurry and gives more certainty about location and circumstances.

http://911review.org/_webimages/noplane/hole4_3.JPG

Everyone still believing that a jet airliner went through this hole needs a whole series of checkups (eyes, mental health, basic physics exam etc.).
And I know from close experience that some people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that authorities would do these
things to their own people or would at least cooperate in covering it up.

I lived very close to this place, south east of Amsterdam ... in 1992

http://www.refdag.nl/polopoly_fs/2012_10_03_bin1_1bij_bijlmerramp3_3_fc_web_1_680041!image/1851149107.jpg

This is what it looked like when a 747 from El Al tumbled out of the sky ...

Tangri
15th January 2013, 04:52
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

In Intelligence world there is unwritten rules. You have to obey the orders for that time, and accept that as a operative you are expendable for your superiors. In other hand for insurance for your future, you need a escape pot or reserves . It could be recording what you were doing. It could be save your loved ones.

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You can see the photos at this link here of the exact missile that hit the Pentagon. Painted to look like an AA Airplane.
http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/html/11_09_2001.html

This is for members only link
How can I obtain code if I can not access the video

Ok I obtained it
Anyone can use it but I would recommend to watch movie first.

Code is Orion99

Vitalux
15th January 2013, 05:05
Thanks Op for the video.......There are more security cameras in a Walmart at any given day, than there was at The Pentagon. This should incite some curiousity and suspicion in itself. I heard it was a granite bunker buster. I could be wrong. Anywhoo I did see that photo shoot of Donald "The Duck" Rumsfeld as he helped carry out an injured citizen. See image below. So I took out a huge can of bathroom deodorizer. Couldnt bare the stench of the fresh bullsh!t eminating from this false flag event. I wasnt fooled and this program failed. Karmas a bitch I often say. Donnie Boy Osmond may have to come back as a rectal suppository in his next incarnation. Oh What a sh!tty way to incarnate back to this planet again.




Thank you for having the intestinal fortitude to call a spade a spade.
It takes a good man to stand up and lead with truth.

There will always be a vast majority that will refuse to awaken to the truth, due to the nature of the human intellect here in this dimension,
but I guess that is the way it must have been designed.

I thought about this for years, and have come to the conclusion that the real enemy is our own ignorance on a mass scale.

By the way, last month I had a shaman from Brazil visit me and give me a drink of ayahuasca.
During my dream quest, I met an Indian Spirit guide.
During our talk in his tepee I asked him, "if Indians knew and understood that life was so spiritual and they could create reality if they thought about it intently enough, why
did they let the White Man genocide so many first people, and decimate their land."

The Indian spirit guide, looked a bit irate, as he turned and walked out the Tepee and said, " White Man was too stupid to understand that it's just illusion"

Hip Hipnotist
15th January 2013, 05:18
That video looks like it should have been shot from a helicopter.
Is there any report of a helicopter being there at that moment?

that is a very busy air traffic area, there very well could have been.


the quality of that video is so terrible it's useless really.

I know the video sucks terribly as you stated, i agree...... but does that look like a 747.

The 'supposed' aircraft that 'supposedly' hit the structure was a 757, not 747.

You say tomatos, I say tomotos.

The 'fact' is no aircraft hit the pentagon.

It's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by engineers, professional pilots ( of which I was one ) and on, and on, and on.

Another 'fact' is more Americans than you would think realize no aircraft was involved but don't give a rat's behind because McDonalds is still serving quarter pounders, big screen tv's are getting bigger, America's Got Talent will run for another 14 years, Oprah is about to get Lance Armstrong to 'spill the beans', Jody Foster is gay, there are millions of Xmas gifts still to be returned to Wal-Mart and on, and on, and on.

ThePythonicCow
15th January 2013, 05:41
"Suppressed video released 10 years
after 9/11 attacks in the United States
clearly shows the Pentagon attack was
a Cruise type missile, either a Tomahawk
or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by
former officer of the Soviet nuclear
intelligence, Dimitri Khalezov.
What looks to be the same video was posted a year ago in another thread; so I merged the two threads.


Can this be moved to the 9/11 sub-forum?

Done ... just a year late :).

Tangri
15th January 2013, 06:33
"Suppressed video released 10 years
after 9/11 attacks in the United States
clearly shows the Pentagon attack was
a Cruise type missile, either a Tomahawk
or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by
former officer of the Soviet nuclear
intelligence, Dimitri Khalezov.
What looks to be the same video was posted a year ago in another thread; so I merged the two threads.


Can this be moved to the 9/11 sub-forum?

Done ... just a year late :).

Now you are going to upset Jackovesk and he will swear you at PMs