The Real Story Behind Aliens_ Ufos_ Demons_ Illuminati & Satanism.

[normam2]

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First I would like to say that i do believe there is a balance that being good/evil, ying/yang . Also as anyone in this forum I have learn to keep my mind open to every bit of information that could shed more light into our reality and what it really encompasses. This video regardless of it many flaws , touches on the subject of demonic forces and tides it to alien which bring another set of possibilities and of course a different outlook (quite different from both AVALON and CAMELOT) as to what could very well be going on.
BEWARE to those that are easily spooked out , this video can get darn creepy LOL

[truth4me]

this is the real deal stuff....remember what was said" the devil's greatist trick is to convince us he isn't real". We are to "smart" to think there is no devil but we do want to believe in aliens. Now our government leaders follow or at the least the top ones follow the luciferian doctrine . Now if they do that shouldn't that tell us that maybe God is real? IMHO that's where spirituality comes into play. Now we know the bible has truth and lies mixed. The key is figuring out what is truth what is the lies....God does dwell within us thats the ticket in my book......

[shadowstalker]

Thank you for helping write the first few paragraphs in my new book guys....

I do not support the idea of a devil or god.
To me they are catch phrases for folks who are believers in the religiouse tones and fears.

Jesus himself said that we are the gods and that we had forgotten this. He also said that we can do what he can do even better if we so chose to do so. And that religion had been lying to us to keep us from knowing and using these gifts that we are born with. And to keep us from freewill choices.
Jesus never scarificed himself, it was a lesson in knowledge,wisdom and manifestation.

For how can one sacrifice something that could never be truly lost, he proved it by dying and coming back to show us that we can do the same,(he also stated that reincarnations do exist) there are many stories even in reacent times of folks dying and coming back mere hours after being declaired dead, sometimes even days after being declared dead. And some even come back with gifts they never new they had and then used later on in life.

I do however believe in lower frequency spirits who try to cliam to be demons/devils/gods to claim power over the fearful to soak up the energy forces of the victoms. these beings will lie/cheat/steall to gain what they will, just like any other selfish human being.

I can not support a so called god that gives high praise to gold either,
The church/man put that in the books for financial reasons, to gain money from the masses.
The GOLDEN TICKET
YOUR SOUL
In order to get into heaven you must give up your soul and give it to god and praise only him.
Jesus himself stated that the true heaven and hell is within you, that you yourself are in daily creation of it,

But the church took that and then added later and then twisted it to gain whatever power it must.
The Bible contrudicts itself on so many levels its not even funny, in fact, at times it is down right confusing for some.

[truth4me]

Thank you for helping write the first few paragraphs in my new book guys....

I do not support the idea of a devil or god.
To me they are catch phrases for folks who are believers in the religiouse tones and fears.

Jesus himself said that we are the gods and that we had forgotten this. He also said that we can do what he can do even better if we so chose to do so. And that religion had been lying to us to keep us from knowing and using these gifts that we are born with. And to keep us from freewill choices.
Jesus never scarificed himself, it was a lesson in knowledge,wisdom and manifestation.

For how can one sacrifice something that could never be truly lost, he proved it by dying and coming back to show us that we can do the same,(he also stated that reincarnations do exist) there are many stories even in reacent times of folks dying and coming back mere hours after being declaired dead, sometimes even days after being declared dead. And some even come back with gifts they never new they had and then used later on in life.

I do however believe in lower frequency spirits who try to cliam to be demons/devils/gods to claim power over the fearful to soak up the energy forces of the victoms. these beings will lie/cheat/steall to gain what they will, just like any other selfish human being.

I can not support a so called god that gives high praise to gold either,
The church/man put that in the books for financial reasons, to gain money from the masses.
The GOLDEN TICKET
YOUR SOUL
In order to get into heaven you must give up your soul and give it to god and praise only him.
Jesus himself stated that the true heaven and hell is within you, that you yourself are in daily creation of it,

But the church took that and then added later and then twisted it to gain whatever power it must.
The Bible contrudicts itself on so many levels its not even funny, in fact, at times it is down right confusing for some.A question.Do you believe Jesus was real ? If you do believe that he was real then why do you believe he was real?

[shadowstalker]

A rose by any other name.
It's the spiritual teachings that make sense to me, not the purposed person per-se I cant help the fact that the church posed him in the bible. I bow down before NO GOD/MAN.

I know this answer will MAKE NO SENSE, but what can I say, for most it doesn't any way, at least for most folks.

[Anno]

You guys might find this thread of help. LINK (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30551-Our-current-predicament-Archons-elite-black-magic-11-11-11-and-our-destiny--)

Gnostics, Aliens are Demons, etc. I have the video loading away and look forward to being creeped out. Seeing as it's Sunday night and there's no Horror Movies on tv for some reason. Ty Normam! =]

[humanalien]

Jesus himself said that we are the gods and that we had forgotten this. He also said that we can do what he can do even better if we so chose to do so. And that religion had been lying to us to keep us from knowing and using these gifts that we are born with. And to keep us from freewill choices.


Could you tell us where to find this in the bible? I've never seen it
before or maybe i read over it.

Thanks

[shadowstalker]

Jesus himself said that we are the gods and that we had forgotten this. He also said that we can do what he can do even better if we so chose to do so. And that religion had been lying to us to keep us from knowing and using these gifts that we are born with. And to keep us from freewill choices.


Could you tell us where to find this in the bible? I've never seen it
before or maybe i read over it.

Thanks
I was paraphrasing form A VERSION of the bible I saw ages ago But can't seem to find any longer I am still in search of it again, I have also noticed that the bible keeps changing every 20 plus years.

[Sierra]

From: http://www.thebicyclingguitarist.net/philosophy/ye_are_gods.htm

John Chapter 10, verses 30-36 (KJV)
10:30 I and [my] Father are one.
10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

The King James Version of the Bible has “the” in italics before “Son of God” in verse 36. This is not for emphasis as some may think, but shows words interpolated by the translators. In this case, they were mistaken. The original Greek does NOT have an article before “Son of God,” which in Greek is equivalent to having an indefinite article. In the original Greek of this scripture, Jesus did NOT say he is the Son of God; he said I am a Son of God. He also quoted Psalm 82 that says “Ye are gods.”

John Chapter 14, verse 12 (KJV)
14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. HE WILL DO EVEN GREATER THINGS THAN THESE, because I am going to the Father.

Jesus says the ordinary humans he left behind (who, according to traditional Christian mythology, are NOT divine as he is) will do greater things than Jesus did. I put those words in all-caps to emphasize them.

From: http://www.sacred-texts.com/the/iu/iu000.htm

"Despite their apparent Polytheism, the ancients--those of the educated class at all events--were entirely monotheistical; and this, too, ages upon ages before the days of Moses. In the Ebers Papyrus this fact is shown conclusively in the following words, translated from the first four lines of Plate I.: "I came from Heliopolis with the great ones from Het-aat, the Lords of Protection, the masters of eternity and salvation. I came from Sais with the Mother-goddesses, who extended to me protection. The Lord of the Universe told me how to free the gods from all murderous diseases." Eminent men were called gods by the ancients. The deification of mortal men and supposititious gods is no more a proof against their monotheism than the monument-building of modern Christians, who erect statues to their heroes, is proof of their polytheism. Americans of the present century would consider it absurd in their posterity 3,000 years hence to classify them as idolaters for having built statues to their god Washington.

... The merit of Champollion as an Egyptologist none will question. He declares that everything demonstrates the ancient Egyptians to have been profoundly monotheistical. The accuracy of the writings of the mysterious Hermes Trismegistus, whose antiquity runs back into the night of time, is corroborated by him to their minutest details. Ennemoser also says: "Into Egypt and the East went Herodotus, Thales, Parmenides, Empedocles, Orpheus, and Pythagoras, to instruct themselves in Natural Philosophy and Theology." There, too, Moses acquired his wisdom, and Jesus passed the earlier years of his life.

Thither gathered the students of all countries before Alexandria was founded. "How comes it," Ennemoser goes on to say, "that so little has become known of these mysteries? through so many ages and amongst so many different times and people? The answer is that it is owing to the universally strict silence of the initiated. Another cause may be found in the destruction and total loss of all the written memorials of the secret knowledge of the remotest antiquity." Numa's books, described by Livy, consisting of treatises upon natural philosophy, were found in his tomb; but they were not allowed to be made known, lest they should reveal the most secret mysteries of the state religion. The senate and the tribune of the people determined that the books themselves should be burned, which was done in public. *

Magic was considered a divine science which led to a participation in the attributes of Divinity itself. "It unveils the operations of nature," says Philo Judaeus, "and leads to the contemplation of celestial powers." ** In later periods its abuse and degeneration into sorcery made it an object of general abhorrence. We must therefore deal with it only as it was in the remote past, during those ages when every true religion was based on a knowledge of the occult powers of nature. It was not the sacerdotal class in ancient Persia that established magic, as it is commonly thought, but the Magi, who derive their name from it. The Mobeds, priests of the Parsis--the ancient Ghebers--are named, even at the present day, Magoi, in the dialect of the Pehlvi. *** Magic appeared in the world with the earlier races of men. Cassien mentions a treatise, well-known in the fourth and fifth centuries, which was accredited to Ham, the son of Noah, who in his turn was reputed to have received it from Jared, the fourth generation from Seth, the son of Adam. ****

Moses was indebted for his knowledge to the mother of the Egyptian princess, Thermuthis, who saved him from the waters of the Nile. The wife of Pharaoh, ***** Batria, was an initiate herself, and the Jews owe to her the possession of their prophet, "learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and mighty in words and deeds." ****** Justin Martyr, giving as his authority Trogus Pompeius, shows Joseph as having acquired a great knowledge in magical arts with the high priests of Egypt. *******

The ancients knew more concerning certain sciences than our modern savants have yet discovered. Reluctant as many are to confess as much, it has been acknowledged by more than one scientist. "The degree of scientific knowledge existing in an early period of society was much greater than the moderns are willing to admit"; says Dr. A. Todd Thomson, the editor of Occult Sciences, by Salverte; "but," he adds, "it was confined to the temples, carefully veiled from the eyes of the people and opposed only to the priesthood."

So .... it seems we are gods who have been denied all knowledge of our godhood historically speaking, unless we were one of those in power in the priesthood.

Not much has changed.

Sierra :wave:

[shadowstalker]

I knew i saw it some place, thanks for finding it for me.

[Anno]

At about 1hr 6mins in they mention the info I linked to earlier in the thread. The source was a radio show caller and there are some omissions.

1. They didn't carry out Crowley's ritual they carried out their own altered variation. Crowley's was called something like Alamantra, theirs was called Babylon.

2. I heard it was in New York not Area 51.

3. It comes across like Parsons did it on his own but he didn't, it was in partnership with L Ron Hubbard.

The thing to remember is that this happened 1 year before the UFO/Alien thing kicked off properly. Yet, it hardly ever gets mentioned, even by the alternative. In Occult Folklore it's a pretty widely known fact.

Check out the thread I linked to earlier (it's very small) and the site I link to in that thread if you want to know more. =]

My only other comment on the video is that it seems to make out that only these Illuminati and their rituals can contact these spirits/aliens. That is absurdly untrue and suggests an agenda in the film maker. Still good info though!

[king anthony]

...John Chapter 10, verses 30-36 (KJV)
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken... ...John Chapter 14, verse 12 (KJV) 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. HE WILL DO EVEN GREATER THINGS THAN THESE, because I am going to the Father...


...Eminent men were called gods by the ancients... ...Magic was considered a divine science which led to a participation in the attributes of Divinity itself. "It unveils the operations of nature," says Philo Judaeus, "and leads to the contemplation of celestial powers."... ...the fourth generation from Seth, the son of Adam... ...Moses was indebted for his knowledge to the mother of the Egyptian princess, Thermuthis, who saved him from the waters of the Nile... ...The ancients knew more concerning certain sciences than our modern savants have yet discovered... ...Dr. A. Todd Thomson, the editor of Occult Sciences, by Salverte; "but," he adds, "it was confined to the temples, carefully veiled from the eyes of the people and opposed only to the priesthood."...

So... it seems we are gods who have been denied all knowledge of our godhood historically speaking, unless we were one of those in power in the priesthood.


Well "put together" Sierra! So, was that left or right brain (inside joke). The following is a brief, which is in support of the quoted poster.

If I may add [rhetorical questions]; who was it that, according the Christian Holy Book, "empowered" human beings with such - the creator species ("God") or another species ("god")!? Which of the species became slightly agitated when the "resource" was given an opportunity!? If the believed messiah and prophets of the Christian Holy Book had "gifts", from whom were the "gifts" given from!? So who is it that some/many think they worship - do they even know or have understanding!?



Genesis 3:4-5
(4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

KJV

Genesis 3:13-17
(13) ...the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. (14) And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (15) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (16) Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. (17) And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the...

Even within the fragmented "faith", one can piece together a small piece of the "big picture". I do not tell what it is in full or imply anything. However, I do promote that those who seek - seek what the ancients knew for clarification and understanding of what is.

Furthermore I say, be wary when one speaks; "I will pray for you" for it is unknown, even by them, who they truly pray to. Permission is always needed for prayer to be so, for if permission is not given (directly expressed) then it shall not be and will fall on the lips of the one who spoke as "undesired deeds" - for "those others" ("gods", nonhuman species, ETs) being prayed to (for example, one asking of something) will not be pleased.

Fact/truth has been mixed with much fiction both by chance and design by "the few" (ruling class, elite), by each (individual), all (the collective/population) and by "those others"; faiths, beliefs and such offer feel-good (only) and false empowerment. For human beings to regain what was given, regardless by whom and why, they must learn to crawl before they learn to walk - to be free from any bondage great or small (from any species), one/many must learn to be sovereign here and now.

For clarity, my brief words are not directed to the one "faith" being referenced - but all such "faiths". Well done post Sierra.

[Sierra]

this is the real deal stuff....remember what was said" the devil's greatist trick is to convince us he isn't real". We are to "smart" to think there is no devil but we do want to believe in aliens. Now our government leaders follow or at the least the top ones follow the luciferian doctrine . Now if they do that shouldn't that tell us that maybe God is real? IMHO that's where spirituality comes into play. Now we know the bible has truth and lies mixed. The key is figuring out what is truth what is the lies....God does dwell within us thats the ticket in my book......

1st Corinthians 3:16, various versions (such a nice verse and definitely the TRUTH!!! This one snuck by ...):

New International Version (©1984)
Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?

New Living Translation (©2007)
Don't you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?

English Standard Version (©2001)
Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

International Standard Version (©2008)
You know that you are God's sanctuary and that God's Spirit lives in you, don't you?

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Don't you know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?

King James Bible
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

American King James Version
Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

American Standard Version
Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Bible in Basic English
Do you not see that you are God's holy house, and that the Spirit of God has his place in you?

Douay-Rheims Bible
Know you not, that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you ?

Darby Bible Translation
Do ye not know that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

English Revised Version
Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Webster's Bible Translation
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Weymouth New Testament
Do you not know that you are God's Sanctuary, and that the Spirit of God has His home within you?

World English Bible
Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?

Young's Literal Translation
have ye not known that ye are a sanctuary of God, and the Spirit of God doth dwell in you?

I think God and spirit are the same, I think God or what ... the concept hmmm... language. OK, let me try again. I think God/Source/Spirit/One Mind/Light/Us and We are One. Oh shoot. Language just doesn't work. We may be currently incased in flesh and therefore a small tiny part of We as the *I* ... is conscious down here and *feels* separate, but that is an untruth.

I think we all are literally one with US when we're not temporarily separated by flesh into separate entities. I think that spark, that fire inside us is the same fire of God, if I may use the word God, as used by the three most common monotheisms. There is a saint that says (Thank you Oliver S.), our hands are God's hands here on earth and I tend to agree, it is the only place we'll find God. In our hands. In our selves. There is no where else to look. But within. Therefore, since we are God, the more we are aware of this, the more responsible we are. The more empowered we are. The more magical we are. We become gods when we ignite. Looking forward to it.

Sierra :wave:

[normam2]

I guess i should have also stated why i posted this video and how I got to it. On KERRY'S BLOG she posted a link named Moon Rising (Full Disclosure Version) by Jose Escamilla where they talked about the moon and so forth . The thing that later caught my eye on the the link for the video I posted was the reference to those white looking almost ghostly looking things flying in the skin that were thought to be alien but in this video are portrayed as evil entities that almost look ghostly. In KERRY"S video these things are said to be linked to possible space elevators and their shape (which is almost an italic V) is the logo for most if not all space agency programs all over the world . Talk about the ILLUMINATI and their obsession with symbolism, eh? I dont know I guess is interesting how people have different take on the same anomaly yet i WOULD NOT I repeat I WOULD NOT put it pass them to be channeling extremely evil entities and allowing them to come into our own physical planet to spread fear and hate or whatever is they what here. My mother has had personal encounter with evil entities and so have my aunts for longs periods of times which to this day only brought by accident since the fear they felt and still do is very real to them . Those evil things are very real to them .

[Seikou-Kishi]

Thank you for helping write the first few paragraphs in my new book guys....


I trust they're getting royalties? ;-)

[Anno]

[...]In KERRY"S video these things are said to be linked to possible space elevators and their shape (which is almost an italic V) is the logo for most if not all space agency programs all over the world .[...]

I just watched the original video about the coloured in Moon and space V's. Is there a thread on it here? I can think of more of those shapes in use outside of official space agencies that are connected to aliens/demons.

[Amysenthia]

Thanks for posting this video. I never get tired of watching and being reminded of the truth behind the rulers of this mess. I would just like to post a comment to those that watch and become confused about what is the truth. You must first find that place within yourself that comes from source. Then you can discern the truth. There are extraterrestrials and there are demons that just as they can "appear in any form", can appear as extraterrestrials. This does not mean that extraterrestrials don't exist. Also, If you watch the video at about 1:44 the quote is given that reads "they are spiritual in nature and not allowed to harm human beings". I then have to ask if "God" is not real what is keeping them from harming humans??? This to me is again makes the point that the "Source of all, God" is both light and dark, good and evil, and allows all things to make the choices as to what to experience in their own perceptions. However, there have been universal laws put in place that even the most advanced technologies cannot overcome. My discernment tells me that "God" is watching and allowing all of this to play out to see if the common man will wake up in time to save the planet. If we do not we will all both good and evil be eventually absorbed back into source where it all started anyway. When you know this you must also know that you must not fear the Illuminati. It is this fear, that there is something that they can take from you that gives them power. These beings feed on the vibrational energy that fear/adrenaline/anger/hatred creates. Know that their plans will never happen. They are not factoring so many things in. Just as there are evil entities aiding them, there are good entities working to make sure that their plans do not come to fruition. The most important things we can do as individuals is to wake up everyday learning to live with love in our hearts, with an attitude of service to one another, and know that we are each our own unique version of the source of all that is.

[king anthony]

There are extraterrestrials and there are demons that just as they can "appear in any form", can appear as extraterrestrials.

I say, "no"; at least one species I know that has the ability to project can also "cloud perception", meaning they can appear to be such things as spirits, a bush walking across a lawn or an animal - they are either "in view" or close by. Belief systems and mysticisms, based on the lack of understanding by chance or design, have imposed such concepts (as above) over "time". Whether one wishes to accept that another may know this (through knowledge and understanding) is choice. Inline with keeping to the one the truth in aid of human beings, those who cannot accept should not perpetuate what is now in this civilization. My words are firm and I stand behind them and risk losing more favor with the many - I mean not to offend but rather to be clear with my words in aid.

[Dawn]

It took me a day and a half to find the time to see this video all the way through. I have highly developed psychic perception and I'd like to comment based on my own personal observations. But before I do, it is obvious to me that the film maker has a bias. I am always suspicious of anything with dramatic music in the background to create tension and strong emotions in the viewer. And this movie has that in spades, it also twists the truth in at least a couple of incidents I knew about, so I know there is more of this type of thing in the movie that I did not catch... Just FYI.

Now, about my personal observations. I am glad to see this information being presented because the conclusions are correct. Those in power have been corrupted by that power and have made 'agreements' in order to hold it... these agreements include the use of their bodies by disembodied spirits. I can see them. In fact, I am convinced that is why more people are not psychic, because what you see when you are psychic is very hard to bear at first. And, I am sure the demons are there from generation to generation and do not really care which body they share as long as that person makes a good trans-medium for them. True psychics rarely discuss this because most people just aren't ready to hear it, and the teacher never teaches unless the student brings up the topic first or asks the right question.

And, about the little 'ufos' that are filmed all over the placed. They annoy or inhabit almost all humans. The only defenses against them that I have found are:
1) To remain in joy and love as much as possible
2) To be willing to be aware of them
3) When you see them, to also love them... they seem to have no defense against the frequency of love. And if it is true that they are lower dimensional or lower frequency... then they appreciate experiencing love. In fact they often change character and can move on with a little help from someone who truly does not judge them.

I have seen some really scary demons in my life. And they have taken many shapes and forms. In the Avalon thread that was started yesterday there is a film of a few that recognized and consulted by the Dali Llama (I think the name of that thread is '400 Year Old Secret Revealed'). I had to learn not to flinch when I see or interact with them, or they would be a real problem for me. They feed on fear and love it when someone sees them as having more power than they have. One thing I have come to recognize is that they resonate with the frequency of FEAR. So, when you are around they you experience this frequency. You experience FEAR. Most people believe they are afraid, which is an unsafe position for them to take around an entity or 'demon' because it dis-empowers them. Realizing that your awareness is simply picking up their frequency is very empowering and allows you to feel FEAR while remaining in the energy of love yourself.

I see demons coming in and out of people all the time, and those people are unaware of it. It happens especially to people who use drugs or alcohol. In fact, bars are a bad place to hang out for that reason.

I'd like to recommend a 3 volume set of books which is an easy read (kind of fun actually). In order to help me become neutral about demons I was told to read these books and they really helped. These books are written for teenagers, so they are easy reading for an adult. However, don't be put off by the casual and fictional nature of them... as far as I can tell they are dead on!!! The books are the
Bartimaeus 3-book boxed set (Bartimaeus Trilogy) by Jonathan Stroud (Sep 14, 2010)

Have fun exploring this topic, and if it is new to you and you feel frightened feel free to PM me. They have always been there, becoming aware of them doesn't really change anything. It is still, at the root, all ONE ( or all GOD), just as Jesus said. This means the demons or ufos are also THAT (GOD) in a different form from us.

[Corncrake]

Hi Abundant Traveler - I agree with you on this 'I am always suspicious of anything with dramatic music in the background to create tension and strong emotions in the viewer' and viewed the material presented with perhaps more discernment than usual. Not being psychic I tend to be wary anyway as I believe many of my reactions to situations are not due to intuition but thought association. For example, if I am in a place that reminds me of a scary movie like the Blair Witch Report, or in an historic building where I know there have been many deaths, I may feel uncomfortable. I rarely remember dreams or nightmares where you might be expected to encounter demons. Having over the years known people who have 'messed around' with ouija boards and black magic with seriously nasty results I view the subject with caution. On a more upbeat note I highly recommend the Bartimaeus Trilogy - dark but very funny!

[king anthony]

I say, it is social conditioning (and "time") that has made things the way they are, in this civilization; falsehoods being hung on to, deceptions being perpetuated, all are correct because no one really knows, everyone is entitled to {insert here} and so forth. Cannot most see what is feeds their own egos, is for the comfort of feel good only - the obvious, what is right before their eyes. I say, the potential and abilities of most, "the few" and some of "those others" have done well in order to maintain the cycle that has been.

[Anno]

It took me a day and a half to find the time to see this video all the way through. I have highly developed psychic perception and I'd like to comment based on my own personal observations. But before I do, it is obvious to me that the film maker has a bias. I am always suspicious of anything with dramatic music in the background to create tension and strong emotions in the viewer. And this movie has that in spades, it also twists the truth in at least a couple of incidents I knew about, so I know there is more of this type of thing in the movie that I did not catch... Just FYI.

Now, about my personal observations. I am glad to see this information being presented because the conclusions are correct. Those in power have been corrupted by that power and have made 'agreements' in order to hold it... these agreements include the use of their bodies by disembodied spirits. I can see them. In fact, I am convinced that is why more people are not psychic, because what you see when you are psychic is very hard to bear at first. And, I am sure the demons are there from generation to generation and do not really care which body they share as long as that person makes a good trans-medium for them. True psychics rarely discuss this because most people just aren't ready to hear it, and the teacher never teaches unless the student brings up the topic first or asks the right question.

And, about the little 'ufos' that are filmed all over the placed. They annoy or inhabit almost all humans. The only defenses against them that I have found are:
1) To remain in joy and love as much as possible
2) To be willing to be aware of them
3) When you see them, to also love them... they seem to have no defense against the frequency of love. And if it is true that they are lower dimensional or lower frequency... then they appreciate experiencing love. In fact they often change character and can move on with a little help from someone who truly does not judge them.

I have seen some really scary demons in my life. And they have taken many shapes and forms. In the Avalon thread that was started yesterday there is a film of a few that recognized and consulted by the Dali Llama (I think the name of that thread is '400 Year Old Secret Revealed'). I had to learn not to flinch when I see or interact with them, or they would be a real problem for me. They feed on fear and love it when someone sees them as having more power than they have. One thing I have come to recognize is that they resonate with the frequency of FEAR. So, when you are around they you experience this frequency. You experience FEAR. Most people believe they are afraid, which is an unsafe position for them to take around an entity or 'demon' because it dis-empowers them. Realizing that your awareness is simply picking up their frequency is very empowering and allows you to feel FEAR while remaining in the energy of love yourself.

I see demons coming in and out of people all the time, and those people are unaware of it. It happens especially to people who use drugs or alcohol. In fact, bars are a bad place to hang out for that reason.

I'd like to recommend a 3 volume set of books which is an easy read (kind of fun actually). In order to help me become neutral about demons I was told to read these books and they really helped. These books are written for teenagers, so they are easy reading for an adult. However, don't be put off by the casual and fictional nature of them... as far as I can tell they are dead on!!! The books are the
Bartimaeus 3-book boxed set (Bartimaeus Trilogy) by Jonathan Stroud (Sep 14, 2010)

Have fun exploring this topic, and if it is new to you and you feel frightened feel free to PM me. They have always been there, becoming aware of them doesn't really change anything. It is still, at the root, all ONE ( or all GOD), just as Jesus said. This means the demons or ufos are also THAT (GOD) in a different form from us.

I think that is one of the most valuable posts on this forum. =]

[Jake]

I remember coming to the same understanding about aliens and demons when I was about 13 years old. After a couple of personal experiences that were ET related, I read the King James version of the Bible. The descriptions of demons and extra sensory experiences in the Bible shocked me. I was convinced that the denizens that had visited me were the same that were mentioned in the Bible. Reading the Bible again, the second time, had me even more convinced. I had come to the same conclusions as the video when I was 13 years old.

So is it the demons posing as aliens,, or was it aliens posing as demons. I have since then, moved past any solid belief or faith in the Bible, yet I still know about the denizens. I have noticed (and special thanx to David Icke) that many, if not, ALL other ancient cultures have their legends of the same creatures. This phenomenon seems to meet us at our own level,,, and there seems to always be deception. A pure evil alien race, like this, would surely be able to take over earth quite easily and without our being able to do anything about it. So why all of the deception? And why the need to enslave human kind? If concepts like slavery, genocide, war, starvation etc,,, were taught to us by these denizens,,, then,,,, WHY?? For the glorification of some God somewhere??? My personal opinion is that these denizens are self serving. And NOT unto any kind of God. The GOD structure was more than likely introduced as another human control. ie,,, religion, and the need to glorify one deity or another. They are self serving, and they vampire our energy!!! Everything else is deception. They are exceedingly good at what they do. They harvest the energies at these 'Lucifarian' gatherings,,, the same way that they harvest them at the Churches. It is the same thing to me.

The video is awesome,,, but,,, It is biased. It attempts to sum up the entirety of this phenomenon by going back to the Bible for the explanation,,, and it is a much bigger story than that...

IMOHO!!! I promise you that when I first met these bastards,,, there was not jesus or god or satan or lucifer,,,,, It was ME and three little DENIZENS. The goal is to get you to surrender your power!!!! Any way they can!!!!

[TargeT]

So is it the demons posing as aliens,, or was it aliens posing as demons. I have since then, moved past any solid belief or faith in the Bible, yet I still know about the denizens. I have noticed (and special thanx to David Icke) that many, if not, ALL other ancient cultures have their legends of the same creatures. This phenomenon seems to meet us at our own level,,, and there seems to always be deception. ....

. The goal is to get you to surrender your power!!!! Any way they can!!!!

This is the conclusion I came to through exhaustive research, I wish I had an esoteric experience like so many others seem to have had.. I think this proccess would be a lot easier to .. well proccess.. haha

I think it sclear that its (lets keep using the term) demons, or perhaps extra dimentional vampires? clearly they cannot influence us with any real power directly, but they have longevity on their side...

I think vampires, demons, all these things are "hyped up" a lot,, Look at the EXTRA ORDINARY amount of effort it takes to keep us where we are.. litteraly every aspect of life continues the deception, the levels of deception are so exceptionally complex.

to me this means 1 of two things... either we are THAT powerfull, or they are THAT weak (its probably a mix of the two, but I'm going to lean to "weak" for them..)

now, do they feed off emotion (literally? like vampires?) I kind of thinkso.. why else put us "through our paces"; maybe its more like a heroin addict? they want what we have maybe? are we just a drug to them? (obviously I have a lot of questions..)

I pay a lot of attention to holywood, I like to see what we are "supose to be thinking"... so far i see a lot of "externalising power" I see a lot of "the dark forces are SO POWERFUL that you should TREMBLE IN FEAR... until the external savior comes, then rejoice! all is won (but your not the external power.. so untill its here keep trembling).

I think this is the geatest deception.. us thinking we need god, or we need poilice or we need the NWO or government or WHATEVER instead of looking to our selfs.

anyway.. I think this is the crux of the reality problem and I'm glad to see threads like this out here :)