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winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 18:18
A Plot line from the books/tv series Red Dwarf"A civilization of cat-people rose and fell on Red Dwarf in the 3,000,000 years between its leaving Earth and the time the radiation reached a low enough level that Lister could safely be let out of stasis. Like most civilizations, this one had its own religion and the episode Waiting for God gives quite a strong message on religion in general. Just stuff to think about.

The supreme deity in their religion is Cloister. Legend has it that Cloister was frozen in time to save Frankenstein, the Holy Mother of the cat-people. He would eventually return and lead the cat-people to Fushal the Promised Land. After arriving at Fushal, the cats will be able to partake of all manner of hotdog and donut and they would wear hats of great majesty, though they be made of colored cardboard and have humorous arrows through the top. At least, that's what legend says. This is actually their interpretation of Lister's plan to open a hotdog and donut diner stand on Fiji, but three million years of retelling the tale warped the names and events beyond recognition.

Most of the cats on Red Dwarf died in Holy Wars fought between the two factions -- those who thought the hats should be red and those who thought the hats should be blue. Daft, especially since, according to Lister, they were supposed to be green. The cats not killed in Holy Wars built two arks, one for red-hats and one for blue-hats, and they left Red Dwarf in search of Fushal. They used a star chart Cloister supposedly left for Frankenstein. The sacred writings read "Seven socks. One shirt." Unfortunately, Lister had lined Frankenstein's basket with his laundry list. So one ark crashed into a comet, and the other flew onward forever.

Lister was most disturbed, though, when he learned they actually made things up about him. He was supposed to have given them Five Sacred Laws (not quite the Pentabarf but just as loony), one of which is "It is a sin to be cool." Of these five, Lister claimed to have broken four of them, and would have broken the fifth but there are no sheep on board.

When Lister emerged from stasis, all the cats were gone except for two. When the arks left Red Dwarf, they left the sick and the lame to die. Of the sick and lame, there was a cripple (Cat's mother) and an idiot (Cat's father, who later chewed off his own foot). There was no trace of them by the time Lister emerged from his 3,000,000 year stint in non-existence. Only Cat and a blind-old priest who'd lost his faith. Lister was able to restore the old man's faith by pretending to be Cloister and promising him A+ status on Fushal, where he'd get his own room and patio and barbecue grill. He performed a "miracle" by restoring his hat (Cat put it on instead of burning it like the old man asked), and the old priest exclaimed "This is the happiest day of my li--" and then fell over dead.

Lister was upset at finding out the cat-people used religion as an excuse for them to be extremely crappy to each other, and I'm sure there is a moral in here somewhere."
Does this ring any bells...sounds a lot like the organized religions on Earth...;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWhRAn-fXHU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWhRAn-fXHU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQCT9PNIaw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQCT9PNIaw&feature=related

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 18:32
There is a Man in the Skywho controls everything... From the invention of lying...
The Ten Commandments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0c_-I2cLbo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0c_-I2cLbo&feature=related

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 19:46
Life of Brian - Blessed are the cheesemakers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xLUEMj6cwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xLUEMj6cwA

Cidersomerset
19th September 2011, 20:43
Hi Robbie......'Blessed Are All The Posties'

Well I've just come from the meaning of life thread and Darwinism to 'blessed are the big noses'

I get your point religion can be made by anything out of the ordinary especially in primitive cultures as per
'Ancient Alien' Theory.............Just like Montezuma thought Cortez was Quetzalcoatl .....A great white bearded
god and hesitated to his motives at horrendous cost to the whole South American Culture.


Billy connelly sums up organised religion.

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Cidersomerset
19th September 2011, 20:52
Even relitively recently indiginious peoples not used to technology thought planes flown by US personel in WW11were 'Gods'. That gave them food and goods ,when they were on their islands
and when they left. The confused people built replica's of the planes hoping the 'Gods' would return with Food and goods.

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Its easy to see how things like the Nasca lines and all the Astronaughts figures and paintings, are representations of alien gods to me its 'bleeden' obvious..

Why is it not to mainstream scientists and archeaologists ????

Cheer Steve..

The sad thing is how these proud people are encourged to kneel before another make believe god and take communion...

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 20:59
Hi Robbie......'Blessed Are All The Posties'

Well I've just come of the meaning of life thread and Darwinism to 'blessed are the big noses'

I get your point religion can be made by anything out of the ordinary especially in primitive cultures as per
'Ancient Alien' Theory.............Just like Montezuma thought Cortez was Quetzalcoatl .....A great white bearded
god and hesitated to his motives at horrendous cost to the whole South American Culture.


Billy connelly sums up organised religion.

nS_4OopJuYI
Blessed are the Posties' they who shall deliver the sacred birthday card which containeth the holy five pound note...Amen LOL yeah you got it mate religion is a control mechanism there may be a creator but not the Anthropomorphised God we have rammed down our throats. As a fellow RC you know what i mean, we are gods the wonderful creators as ION would say we just have to find the instruction manual and then we can manipulate reality LOL..

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 21:04
Billy Connelly Rules!!!!

Cidersomerset
19th September 2011, 21:12
Heres Dave Allen talking about his first day at cathelic school...the nunns were very scary.....

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Scary Nunns

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very funny but eerily true....

winston smith1971
20th September 2011, 13:51
Steve, Dave Allen is a genius his routine brought back memories!!!