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Anno
19th September 2011, 19:09
A while ago I saw Derren Brown use an arcade game in a pub to hypnotise someone. It was a Zombie Shootemup and once under, the guy was taken to a set where the game became real. Then Derren sent him to sleep and put him back infront of the game. He thought his real experience was just his attention being "sucked in" to the game.

There is such a push for HD and 3D TVs with higher and higher resolutions and faster and faster digital signals connecting them. One of the theories for this is to make hypnosis and programming easier.

What if they are programming people so that at some point they could activate the programming turning everyone who's watched TV in to an MK Zombie? It would be a very efficient way of making us wipe eachother out.

Those immune from the programming would be left to fend for themselves.

The main benefit of this idea is that there is no need to use any kind of biological, chemical, nuclear or even conventional weapons. No hazardous waste to clean up when it's done.

Maia Gabrial
19th September 2011, 19:15
Good point, Anno. It gets more diabolical all the time.

shadowstalker
19th September 2011, 19:15
HD and 3D TVs not for me but my DAUGHTER HAS ONE HER HUSBAND GAVE HER, but we rarely watch TV, it's just a small one.
I hate those huge one that they have out now nearly the size of a living-room, they scare me, you can't escape them, and they do weird things, my kid sister has one of those big ones, you know trying to keep up with the jones crap.

I can deal with a small tv, but those big ones got to go.
I refuse to get the 3d no matter how kewl they look, the moment they started making digital boxes for cable and supposedly made it a law to use only those I knew something was up.

Peace of Mind
19th September 2011, 19:16
They have been using TV to manipulate the masses for years. Just about everything people do and talk about is inspired by the dumb down tool called television.

Peace

ulli
19th September 2011, 19:23
Anno, don't give them ideas...

<8>
19th September 2011, 19:32
Anno, don't give them ideas...


Sorry Ulli, i think the microchip they have started to put in humans are just for that. And more ofc....:(

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 19:44
I honestly feel a zombie threat would be more of a rage type contagion easy to create it a bio weapons lab somewhere think 28days later...

Anno
19th September 2011, 19:46
Anno, don't give them ideas...

TPTB or the Avalonians? =]


They have been using TV to manipulate the masses for years. Just about everything people do and talk about is inspired by the dumb down tool called television.

Peace

Think about all those kids playing war based computer games. There's a whole generation out there that understand basic military tactics. If we had an African style situation and someone gave them guns, they could wipe most of us out quite easily. The trauma of the reality would kick in the zen calm found whilst playing the game and responding to patterns of movement/action. What about that film that's out where a group of kids fight off aliens?

Each generation has it's own programming. The elderly will sit in the chairs by the radio til they starve to death, convinced 'someone will come'.

The ones just below them will want to help but will suffer a shortage of knowledge and manpower because the ones below them will be sat on a gridlocked motorway with their suv's and spoilt children.

The international gangs that have been taking root in the UK/US/AU over the last few years, along with the homegrown ones will take over with all the computer trained kids.

We could be turned into Africa within a couple of weeks if everything got shut off. This is why I have a swiss army knife and stout shoes. =]

Oh and let's not forget the Religious and all those in various kinds of 'protective custody'.

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 19:49
Zombie apocalypse survival guide published by US government.
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/863758-zombie-apocalypse-survival-guide-published-by-us-government

<8>
19th September 2011, 19:51
zombie apocalypse survival guide published by us government.
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/863758-zombie-apocalypse-survival-guide-published-by-us-government


o.m.g.....:(

winston smith1971
19th September 2011, 19:52
HAARP & Mind Control?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6-5F4G4l6g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6-5F4G4l6g
Is this why everybody is so angry these days...

Anno
19th September 2011, 19:55
Zombie apocalypse survival guide published by US government.
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/863758-zombie-apocalypse-survival-guide-published-by-us-government

They're supposed to be making a movie out of the Max Brooks 'Zombie Survival Guide'. Hillarious book, definitely worth downloading. I mean, paying for. From a shop.

ulli
19th September 2011, 20:01
Anno, don't give them ideas...


Sorry Ulli, i think the microchip they have started to put in humans are just for that. And more ofc....:(

Are you sure they have already started?

Peace of Mind
19th September 2011, 20:10
They have been using TV to manipulate the masses for years. Just about everything people do and talk about is inspired by the dumb down tool called television.

Peace
Think about all those kids playing war based computer games. There's a whole generation out there that understand basic military tactics. If we had an African style situation and someone gave them guns, they could wipe most of us out quite easily. The trauma of the reality would kick in the zen calm found whilst playing the game and responding to patterns of movement/action. What about that film that's out where a group of kids fight off aliens?

Each generation has it's own programming. The elderly will sit in the chairs by the radio til they starve to death, convinced 'someone will come'.

The ones just below them will want to help but will suffer a shortage of knowledge and manpower because the ones below them will be sat on a gridlocked motorway with their suv's and spoilt children.

The international gangs that have been taking root in the UK/US/AU over the last few years, along with the homegrown ones will take over with all the computer trained kids.

We could be turned into Africa within a couple of weeks if everything got shut off. This is why I have a swiss army knife and stout shoes. =]

Oh and let's not forget the Religious and all those in various kinds of 'protective custody'.

It seems like war base games are the hottest games out there. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if the military was using them to train and desensitize the youngins. Just the other day I overheard some teens/ kids on the train talking about these games. I couldn’t help but to shake my head when they started discussion (in detail) war tactics, gun attachments and command posts upgrades. So young, so patriotic. But they have absolutely no idea of how NOT fun war really is. I guess these games real purpose is to encourage recruitment…as a great many of military personal are gamers and fans of war action flicks...not to mention other forms of propaganda.

Peace

<8>
19th September 2011, 20:25
Anno, don't give them ideas...


Sorry Ulli, i think the microchip they have started to put in humans are just for that. And more ofc....:(

Are you sure they have already started?

Well not in a mass scale, but there are alot of information out on the net about this. They are not hiding it, if that's what your thinking.
They are actually promoting microchipping as safety reason, for your loved ones, For example the company can help you find your kid if it is lost.
If you are are older and might not have a clear mind, a doctor can get all the info he/she needs through the chip. Or if you are unconscious thru an accident, and so on.

There are voluntaries they show on video, who takes this chip smiling, giv it a few years and we all got the mark as they say in the good bible..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzewWpktidY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzewWpktidY

aceninja
19th September 2011, 20:35
Any medium they come up with will ALWAYS be a tool. You can always use that tool for your own purpose. If your enemy buys bigger bullets, you better buy bigger armor, and bigger guns that can shoot your enemies' bullets. That's how I look at it. Don't blame technology for the application it is being used for.

With that same large TV that can hypnotize you, you can use the same thing to program a positive message to counteract anything negative.

Violet
19th September 2011, 20:51
A while ago I saw Derren Brown use an arcade game in a pub to hypnotise someone. It was a Zombie Shootemup and once under, the guy was taken to a set where the game became real. Then Derren sent him to sleep and put him back infront of the game. He thought his real experience was just his attention being "sucked in" to the game.

There is such a push for HD and 3D TVs with higher and higher resolutions and faster and faster digital signals connecting them. One of the theories for this is to make hypnosis and programming easier.

What if they are programming people so that at some point they could activate the programming turning everyone who's watched TV in to an MK Zombie? It would be a very efficient way of making us wipe eachother out.

Those immune from the programming would be left to fend for themselves.

The main benefit of this idea is that there is no need to use any kind of biological, chemical, nuclear or even conventional weapons. No hazardous waste to clean up when it's done.

We could go very far with what-if...I'm not such a fan of it, really.

Anno
19th September 2011, 23:38
[...]With that same large TV that can hypnotize you, you can use the same thing to program a positive message to counteract anything negative.

What happens when your idea of positive disagrees with part of your audience? Hypothetically speaking. Would you force it on a minority for the sake of the majority if you believe it was for the best?


[...]I'm not such a fan of it, really.

Thank you for updating your personal preferences.

Heyoka_11
20th September 2011, 00:35
There is such a push for HD and 3D TVs with higher and higher resolutions and faster and faster digital signals connecting them. One of the theories for this is to make hypnosis and programming easier.

G'day Anno,

If I can throw back to your original post, I think the point you are making is an extremely valid one. The line between fantasy and reality is becoming far too blurred, especially for young children who are at ang age where the two states can exist side by side. These technologies, there is little doubt in my mind, represent a far more efficienct method of delivery for desensitisation and detachment.

Having said that, it is not the technology itself that is diaboloical in nature, rather it is their potential use. Isn't that always the case?

I dare say that sooner or later I will get one of those 3D monster screens. But it will only be when 2001 A Space Odyssey is available in 3D. We need to be very careful of what we are sticking in front of our faces these days.

Carmody
20th September 2011, 00:58
Anno, don't give them ideas...

TPTB or the Avalonians? =]


They have been using TV to manipulate the masses for years. Just about everything people do and talk about is inspired by the dumb down tool called television.

Peace

Think about all those kids playing war based computer games. There's a whole generation out there that understand basic military tactics. If we had an African style situation and someone gave them guns, they could wipe most of us out quite easily. The trauma of the reality would kick in the zen calm found whilst playing the game and responding to patterns of movement/action. What about that film that's out where a group of kids fight off aliens?

Each generation has it's own programming. The elderly will sit in the chairs by the radio til they starve to death, convinced 'someone will come'.

The ones just below them will want to help but will suffer a shortage of knowledge and manpower because the ones below them will be sat on a gridlocked motorway with their suv's and spoilt children.

The international gangs that have been taking root in the UK/US/AU over the last few years, along with the homegrown ones will take over with all the computer trained kids.

We could be turned into Africa within a couple of weeks if everything got shut off. This is why I have a swiss army knife and stout shoes. =]

Oh and let's not forget the Religious and all those in various kinds of 'protective custody'.

What about that film that's out where a group of kids fight off aliens?

Ender's Game, by Orson Scott Card

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game

I guess they're making a movie out of it.

Good book.

Also see: 'The Last Starfighter'. (both released near the same time, IIRC, Starfighter being a 'rip off' of "Ender's game", IIRC)

WhiteFeather
20th September 2011, 01:14
Ahhhh The Tell Lie Vision Program Well it is a program, telling lies isn't it?. Shut it off ASAP. Read a book, look outside the window, or just make love. Not necessarily in that order. LoL

TigaHawk
20th September 2011, 01:36
speaking of zombies! I've been happily running around killing them for the past few hours!! http://www.deadislandgame.com/

This one is based on a real life virus native to the region (i have no clue where Banoi is, but its close enough to Australia that i should know!) - Something the natives that pratice cannibilism get. Government started messing with it, infected a monkey, monkey gets out.... you know the rest...

Navy has the island surrounded and noone is to get on/off the island, etc.




(plz dont hate me for being a computer nerd :P)



We have a TV - but its rarely used. It's to the point where the add breaks go for the same ammount of time that the TV show does (its about 5mins of TV show 5mins of adds at the moment, no joke) - hense why its not watched. Other than the add problem, there's nothing good on TV to watch anyway. Hense we have the TV, but its not connected to the arial to recieve TV :P


Speaking of zombie adds.... how's this one for raising an eyebrow or two in regards to programming/zombification.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN4sYPmQAJk

(We have a TV at work, the other workmate watches it, i'll watch the stuff at 3am like touched by an angel or the news but thats about it - where i noticed this add and thought omfg what the heck)

DeDukshyn
20th September 2011, 02:50
A while ago I saw Derren Brown use an arcade game in a pub to hypnotise someone. It was a Zombie Shootemup and once under, the guy was taken to a set where the game became real. Then Derren sent him to sleep and put him back infront of the game. He thought his real experience was just his attention being "sucked in" to the game.

There is such a push for HD and 3D TVs with higher and higher resolutions and faster and faster digital signals connecting them. One of the theories for this is to make hypnosis and programming easier.

What if they are programming people so that at some point they could activate the programming turning everyone who's watched TV in to an MK Zombie? It would be a very efficient way of making us wipe eachother out.

Those immune from the programming would be left to fend for themselves.

The main benefit of this idea is that there is no need to use any kind of biological, chemical, nuclear or even conventional weapons. No hazardous waste to clean up when it's done.

Er ... that already happened .. now were trying to get everyone to "wake up" ;)

mosquito
20th September 2011, 03:05
This is already happeneing to some degree. There are certain trigger words which are used to provoke a certain response in the population. The most effective one over the past 10 years has of course been ...

terrorist. Others include paedophile and communist.

By using these words in legislation, the ptb can virtually guarantee that no-one will raise any objections to what they're doing. By announcing on the "news" that a person is being investigated on suspicion of xxxx, the viewers will predictably have an emotional response, and the person in question will remain tarnished indefinitely.

The next stage is to program people to react violently, which is arguably also well under way.

Anno
22nd September 2011, 13:19
[...]What about that film that's out where a group of kids fight off aliens?[...]

That's largely responsible for the kids who live near me adopting that fake streets accent. I actually told one off the other week. He was about 12 years old and stood in the street going, "wot u sayin blaaaad".

One thing I've noticed recently is the idea of Humans as a weapon. In Farscape the human is literally the weapon and also in Fifth Element. When I thought about it, the human is always the vehicle for destroying 'the aliens'. Farscape is absolutely full of the symbolism and topics we talk about and I've even seen contactees saying the characters look like the real aliens.


This is already happeneing to some degree. There are certain trigger words which are used to provoke a certain response in the population. The most effective one over the past 10 years has of course been ...

terrorist. Others include paedophile and communist.

By using these words in legislation, the ptb can virtually guarantee that no-one will raise any objections to what they're doing. By announcing on the "news" that a person is being investigated on suspicion of xxxx, the viewers will predictably have an emotional response, and the person in question will remain tarnished indefinitely.

The next stage is to program people to react violently, which is arguably also well under way.

I believe that's what happened with the 'riots' in the UK. It was basically a load of kids that would normally have been dealt with by the police. Because the word 'Riot' was used, Health and Safety kicked in and the normal Police were then unable to act. They had to wait until 'Riot Trained' Police came. By which point it was all over the media and lots of other kids donned the mantle of 'rioter' and went loot some trainers. The public were also watching by this point and the politicians were on the phones so the Police were pretty much ****ed.

If you want to know what it's really like for the Police and how they're just as sick of it all as us you can check out Inspector Gadgets blog. He's an anonymous Whistleblower still on the inside. LINK (http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/)

Operator
22nd September 2011, 14:29
I got a visit yesterday from a befriended entrepreneur who runs, amongst other things, a local supermarket.

He said that there is a new kind of illness: Everything that has a display will distract people. It has come to the
point where he has to order his personnel to hand in phones and other electronic gadgets. Otherwise the work
will not get done.

In the same line of thinking I have to agree that the very existence alone of these things becomes frightening.
My kids already arrived at the point to declare you insane if you oppose them to buy this crap.

So don't mind the displays ... they are zombies already and can get dangerous if you 'threaten' them to
go 'cold turkey' if you take their gadgets away.

Anno
22nd September 2011, 16:58
[...]He said that there is a new kind of illness: Everything that has a display will distract people.[...]

I have an iPod Touch and I noticed that when you lock the screen and you get a blank black screen, it is a perfectly made scrying mirror. Plasma TV's are exactly the same. Aside from the portable devices that people seem to want to look at every 5 seconds there's also the computer monitors at work, home and school. Instead of divining their own subconscious, users are divining a false collective consciousness created by the Media in the same way Priests have done all through time.

The following is particularly pertinent.



Television Archetype

As different spirits animate and hold sacred other technological devices, the television god keeps us all linked through world news and reports. We can see things across the world, as in a crystal ball, only we have our choice of many pictures. Most fortune-tellers only give you one. This energy, however, and those working with it -broadcasters, network executives, and public-access talk-show hosts- control what we see.

I am always wary of the manifestations of this form.

They are like the psychopomp, the great trickster gods, tricking us into a new world through a tiny screen, making us think that we are there, that these people are real, and that their lives matter to us when they really do not.

They are entertainment. The trick is to remember that.

The static of the defunct television channel or the sign-off signal noise can be a sacred hymn to these powers, and another substitute for the traditional shamanic drums and rattles.


That's from 'City Magick: Urban Rituals, Spells and Shamanism' by Christopher Penczak.

Most of us here remember the movie Poltergeist and the spirits coming through the TV. The Simpsons have done it, as have Famiy Guy. As a meme it's widely spread. They've just switched off the signals in the UK and everyone is on digital instead. No more white noise.

'The Spirit Box' of internet fame works on white noise on the radio which is slowly being replaced by DAB.

The main thing I try to remember is that all Tele technology came from Spiritualists. Tele meaning at a distance. A Tele-vision is literally a scrying glass. Tele-phone. Tele-pathy. Tele-kinesis.

Once digital is completely in place and analogue devices fade away, that white noise and static won't be available to us. There will just be the official signal and if you don't have the right equipment you don't get it.

It is deeply symbolic of us being closed off from the true collective unconscious and programmed in to a 'fake shared reality'. That is what The Matrix really is.

Carmody
22nd September 2011, 17:33
I got a visit yesterday from a befriended entrepreneur who runs, amongst other things, a local supermarket.

He said that there is a new kind of illness: Everything that has a display will distract people. It has come to the
point where he has to order his personnel to hand in phones and other electronic gadgets. Otherwise the work
will not get done.

In the same line of thinking I have to agree that the very existence alone of these things becomes frightening.
My kids already arrived at the point to declare you insane if you oppose them to buy this crap.

So don't mind the displays ... they are zombies already and can get dangerous if you 'threaten' them to
go 'cold turkey' if you take their gadgets away.

That is why I dumped the television. The action or motion of the devices, the moving images..it enchants us it entrains us. It fools the bodily system into thinking that action is being done that life is taking place.

We still have not developed an internal defense/detection mechanism against the idea of visuals lying to the human system. Whereas with words, sounds, we've been dealing with sonic/aural malfeasance for thousands of years.

I removed all televised media and such for many years, in order to re-balance my self back onto ACTION or ACTING mode, from a mode of being sedentary and having the ACT or MOTION occurring on the visual device.

The younger the people are when they get these devices into their lives, the more literally they are entrained into inaction and simple observation.

They may as well be an actual turnip at that point.

GET RID OF YOUR TELEVISION. AVOID TELEVISION AT ALL COSTS.

Do this for at least 3-6 months, at a minimum. Not ONE SECOND of Television, otherwise it is like a hypnotic reinforcement. Even a few minutes of it can erase weeks to months of advancement, advancement back into being a thinking and ACTING individual.

It really is that simple.

Let me put it to you this way: The Elites will have nothing to do with television. Nothing - nothing at all.

They're not that foolish.

Recall Dolores Cannon's comment about the point that not one person in the given study could prevent themselves from going into a hypnotic state within 30 seconds of viewing a television.

Not one.

Not one single individual...Could make it past 30 seconds, without collapsing into the hypnotic-receptive programming mental state.

Are you getting this?

Anno
22nd September 2011, 18:19
I thought I'd share the next section in the book I quoted above, seeing as we're on the interwebs. For those unfamiliar with such things it's a book for the CyberMages and TechnoShamans. Applying traditional techniques and principles to the modern urban environment.

Ever since the Internet arrived there have been several magic(k)al groups exploring it as a 'realm'. The Chaos Magicians did most of it but then they kind of imploded in on themselves.


Computer Archetypes

The technology nets continue to grow around us. We have alluded to a spirit presence in wires, electrical lines, phone lines and television waves.
The Internet is the best example of a living presence in the world communication system. Many science fiction writers have already come up with AIs -aritificial intelligences- getting loose on the Internet and trying to exterminate humans to make way for better computers. These plot lines are going to be very popular in the movies for the next few years.

I think silicon life-forms, beyond crystal and rock devas, will eventually be a reality. We had better make friends with our creations quickly, and hope that they do no do to us what we have done to our own Mother, Earth.
The great fear we have when we watch not-too-distant science fiction like Blade Runner is that the android will rise up and supplant the human.

Some spirits in the Web or on the Internet are akin to spider totems, weaving and walking the strands of information, decoding endless series of zeroes and ones. Like the spider, they are creative and intelligent, and may hold the center, the universal axis mundi, linking us together. We have to be careful not to get caught in the web, because computer archetypes, like spiders, can be carniverous and may mercilessly suck you in. On-line and chat-room addictions may be the first step.

The book was published 10 years ago in 2001. We've come a long way since then.