Tirelessly updating Avalon on the El Hierro eruption. [Archive] - Page 3

randles

30th September 2011, 09:20

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/
"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 30/09/2011 (07:17 pm)
MOVING TOWARD THE SOUTH OF THE ISLAND

The magma is moving away from population centers and is located in the sea
Slight decrease in the magnitude of earthquakes this Friday, September 30, which already have been 22 earthquakes in 5 hours.

SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (30.09.2011. 7:17 pm)

The magma moves south of the island, at the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, and is located in the sea, as announced on Thursday the president of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Alpidio Armas, CEO Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Santana and the minister island of the same area, María del Carmen Morales.

The island of El Hierro has recorded 22 earthquakes between 00:12 and 05:46 hours on Friday, September 30, all located at a depth of between 15 and 17 kilometers deep and with intensities between 1.7 and 3.1 degrees magnitude on the Richter scale, which indicates a slight improvement compared to the earthquakes recorded on Thursday at the same times.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) IRON DAILY collected by the last earthquake on the island found (and published on the website of IGN) has occurred at 05:46 GMT (6:46 hours canaria), in the south of the island, and has reached 1.7 magnitude on the Richter scale. The last earthquake occurred at a depth of 16 kilometers."

Hervé

30th September 2011, 09:21

Good morning randles!

Anything new in your center of the world?

I noticed they haven't updated their seismograms for the last hour or so. Usually that means they are busy computing something more complicated than usual...?

randles

30th September 2011, 09:21

Oi Amzer Zo !! Is it possible to use a heat seeking satelite to see how hot Polly is and where she is centred ??

Hervé

30th September 2011, 09:31

[...]

The magma moves south of the island, at the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, and is located in the sea, as announced on Thursday ...
[...]

It seems like Polly is watching her oven, baking a new little annex island to the El Hierro family... :jester:

randles

30th September 2011, 09:35

All is quiet here, there is too much 'sea fog' on the horizon, cannot see anything other than the tops of the Islands poking out from the sea...
maybe they are calibrating their newly installed seimagraphs into the south..
and if so... this could make for some very interesting read outs..

Good morning randles!

Anything new in your center of the world?

I noticed they haven't updated their seismograms for the last hour or so. Usually that means they are busy computing something more complicated than usual...?

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Oh Goody..... fancy a Jet Ski Safari out there to watch the birth ??? :)

[...]

The magma moves south of the island, at the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, and is located in the sea, as announced on Thursday ...
[...]

It seems like Polly is watching her oven, baking a new little annex island to the El Hierro family... :jester:

Hervé

30th September 2011, 09:38

Oi Amzer Zo !! Is it possible to use a heat seeking satelite to see how hot Polly is and where she is centred ??

Not sure about that, at least for public use... black ops ones must alredy have all the data.

So, with our meager means, you can take the red dots in posts # 502-503 and get an idea of where the magma is expanding and cracking its way through; from the older green tremors to the less recent blue dots to the most recent red ones.

randles

30th September 2011, 09:43

Never say Never..
There is always a way...Smartie Pants :)

Oi Amzer Zo !! Is it possible to use a heat seeking satelite to see how hot Polly is and where she is centred ??

Not sure about that, at least for public use... black ops ones must alredy have all the data.

So, with our meager means, you can take the red dots in posts # 502-503 and get an idea of where the magma is expanding and cracking its way through; from the older green tremors to the less recent blue dots to the most recent red ones.

Hervé

30th September 2011, 09:48

randles

30th September 2011, 09:49

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/

3.2 registered 28 min ago

Good morning randles!

Anything new in your center of the world?

I noticed they haven't updated their seismograms for the last hour or so. Usually that means they are busy computing something more complicated than usual...?

Hervé

30th September 2011, 09:57

Never say Never..
There is always a way...Smartie Pants :)
[...]

Well, if you have some juju stuff to hand ... sure, go ahead and find out!

Think of all the disappointed people learning about a new island which should be coming out to the south of El hierro in about X hours Y minutes and Z.zzz seconds... screaming: "What! No tsunami?! Who are you kidding?!"

randles

30th September 2011, 10:03

Look at Polly Now... what a big girl she is becoming...makes me proud :)

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

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That should take care of the Doom and Gloomers, and make them take off their ambiguous glasses...hopefully them will go outside and look at what a beautiful World we live on,,, an every changing world... :)

Never say Never..
There is always a way...Smartie Pants :)
[...]

Well, if you have some juju stuff to hand ... sure, go ahead and find out!

Think of all the disappointed people learning about a new island which should be coming out to the south of El hierro in about X hours Y minutes and Z.zzz seconds... screaming: "What! No tsunami?! Who are you kidding?!"

Ian Gordon

30th September 2011, 10:05

New island.........new time share opportunities get your scratch cards now !!! Hotest properties in Canary Islands ;)

randles

30th September 2011, 10:10

What do you fancy then..
Quarter Share,
Fixed Week
Floating
or the good old 'buy back' :)

don't take too long to think about it...Business Plan in progress :)
New island.........new time share opportunities get your scratch cards now !!! Hotest properties in Canary Islands ;)

randles

30th September 2011, 10:18

Just issued on pdf as of today by ign.es

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Resumen_diario_El_Hierro.pdf

"I
SUMMARY OF THE ACTIVITY IN VOLCANIC EARTHQUAKE-IRON
September 30, 2011
What has happened
Until 29 September, the volcano monitoring network of 24 monitoring of the Institute
National Geographic, and has been located since last July 17, 8771 earthquakes, with
epicenters both north and south of the NW ridge and depths between 10 and 14 km. The
number of events felt by the population is 50, with intensities II, III and IV on the scale
M.S.K. The magnitude greater than this number reached a value of 3.8 on the Richter scale.
This phenomenon is accompanied by seismic surface deformations, which until
far have reached 35 mm.
Last week (23-29 Oct). 1127 earthquakes have been located. In this period have been felt
the following 44 events with their respective intensities:
2011/09/24 21:24:52 IV
2011/09/24 23:52:18 III
2011/09/25 00:24:59 II
2011/09/27 8:04:05 II
2011/09/27 8:16:28 II
2011/09/27 8:43:27 II
2011/09/27 9:32:15 III
2011/09/27 9:37:26 II
2011/09/27 12:31:38 II-III
2011/09/27 14:38:48 III-IV
2011/09/27 15:44:14 IV
2011/09/27 17:02:59 III-IV
2011/09/27 17:10:34 III-IV
2011/09/27 19:37:06 Direction
2011/09/27 21:33:44 II-III
2011/09/27 22:23:56 III
2011/09/27 22:37:06 III-IV
2011/09/27 22:45:12 II-III
2011/09/27 22:50:50 II-III
2011/09/27 22:56:40 II-III
2011/09/27 23:05:18 II
2011/09/28 2:01:18 II
2011/09/28 5:00:59 III
2011/09/28 7:10:34 III
2011/09/28 7:51:24 II
2011/09/28 9:47:39 III
2011/09/28 13:16:37 II
2011/09/28 13:30:36 II
2011/09/28 15:01:31 II
2011/09/28 15:38:01 II
2011/09/28 16:47:31 III-IV
2011/09/28 17:33:25 II-III
2011/09/28 17:36:08 III-IV
2011/09/28 17:47:37 II
2011/09/28 20:07:26 II
2011/09/28 22:52:59 III-IV
2011/09/29 00:35:17 III
2011/09/29 4:28:46 II
2011/09/29 4:31:40 II
2011/09/29 4:43:08 III
2011/09/29 4:56:25 II-III
2011/09/29 9:12:04 III-IV
2011/09/29 14:42:53 III
2011/09/29 19:30:11 III
During the September 29 senses the number of events was 8, all of magnitude
greater or equal to 3.0 on the Richter scale."

Ian Gordon

30th September 2011, 10:21

Dont I get a free gift which I can pick up at the airport, and all the coke I can drink as long as I give you a cheque and my bank details !! :whoo:

Hervé

30th September 2011, 10:25

Look at Polly Now... what a big girl she is becoming...makes me proud :)

[...]]

A very smooth operatress... no too big hiccups... very progressive, continuous cracking/fracking of the ground despite increasing the energy release... it must be quite something for the pros on the ground to watch unfold such an unprecedented event that hasn't been so closely monitored even in Hawaii or Iceland... I am almost jealous!

randles

30th September 2011, 10:28

Not any more !!!!!
Now we shall just be requiring a simple sample of your DNA followed by a 'chip and No Pin' inserted under the skin of your left hand....
That should sort out the Direct Debits and your Anual Maintenance Payments :)
Dont I get a free gift which I can pick up at the airport, and all the coke I can drink as long as I give you a cheque and my bank details !! :whoo:

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Keep your arms and legs inside the car at all times, put on your 5D glasses,,,,, and enjoy the ride :)
UOTE=Amzer Zo;321761]
Look at Polly Now... what a big girl she is becoming...makes me proud :)

[...]]

A very smooth operatress... no too big hiccups... very progressive, continuous cracking/fracking of the ground despite increasing the energy release... it must be quite something for the pros on the ground to watch unfold such an unprecedented event that hasn't been so closely monitored even in Hawaii or Iceland... I am almost jealous![/QUOTE]

Ian Gordon

30th September 2011, 10:33

Thanks ok then, for a nasty moment I thought it read Anal maintence payments.......the thought brought a tear to my eye!!!...............i will go and get my coat..:behindsofa:

That should sort out the Direct Debits and your Anual Maintenance Payments

randles

30th September 2011, 10:45

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3650:los-terremotos-bajan-de-intensidad&catid=5&Itemid=43

"Lower intensity earthquakes
Written by Editor Friday, September 30, 2011 9:54 PDF

Tonight low intensity have been recorded 35 earthquakes from noon until nine o'clock. As indicated by the IGN intensities have decreased and there is no indication any of the nocturnal episodes as felt by the population.

The last earthquake NTMs sense three degrees occurred yesterday afternoon at 20:30 hours and had an intensity of 3.7 degrees. This morning an earthquake just over 3 degrees, occurred at 04:08 minutes and you reach 3 at 08:11 am. The depths are between 15 and 16 kilometers. IGN mark as the last earthquake felt a movement of 1.8 occurred at nine o'clock.

This display highlights the technical clarifications that have been doing in recent days to point out that earthquakes at this stage will be most felt by the population despite being of lower intensity so everything is within normal this phase of yellow alert is maintained."

randles

30th September 2011, 11:31

LAUGHING !!! THE LATEST DOOM AND GLOOM UPLOAD...

Run for the hills !!! Little 'ol Polly is coming to get 'ya :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9yPCiZhW5M

randles

30th September 2011, 11:44

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3651:esto-si-es-alarmismo&catid=5&Itemid=43

"Esto sí es alarmismo
Escrito por Redacción Viernes, 30 de Septiembre de 2011 12:20"

"his really is scaremongering

lying mass-destruction weapon with this headline: "The Canary Islands government radio alert to all operators of the El Hierro volcanic eruption imminent within 12 kilometers of the island," the digital newspaper eldigitaldecanarias.net (based off of the Iron) yesterday managed to alarm the entire population of the island. The article was published at 10:48 hours claimed that "scientists believe that in the next few hours can produce a 99%".

At four in the afternoon while there was a meeting between experts and those responsible for Government Security and Emergency Canario, distressed and alarmed people waiting for the confirmation of information or denial of such a state of alarm and impending change that assumption and yellow to red traffic light.

After that meeting the Canary Islands Government issued a press release in which the executive insisted canary "that the residents of El Hierro must trust in the authorities, stay calm and keep informed through the media, on the official source of the Canary Islands Government and the institutions that belong to the Plan. In this sense, flatly denied the information published in online environments in which concerned an imminent eruption. "

This ambiguity requires clarification. Since the drafting of the Digital Iron working days we offer our readers a thorough and accurate information refusing to publish information from unofficial sources and could cause further concern among a population living for the first time in centuries the possibility of a volcanic eruption and felt earthquakes and tremors with which it seems will have to live for a time impossible to determine. It is not correct, although fairly common among politicians and media who would benefit from the ambiguity, not to mention the paper causing the alarm when it is well known, and leave in the same bag the rest of the digital press the Canary Islands.

What newspaper was made yesterday that alarmism and what they are doing today other means to not specifying the source of this misinformation is lax in most cases and other opportunistic."

Hervé

30th September 2011, 11:56

LAUGHING !!! THE LATEST DOOM AND GLOOM UPLOAD...

Run for the hills !!! Little 'ol Polly is coming to get 'ya :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9yPCiZhW5M
Lumps together everything including the kitchen sink... doesn't have a clue of what's going on and confusing location... definite propaganda!

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3651:esto-si-es-alarmismo&catid=5&Itemid=43

"Esto sí es alarmismo
Escrito por Redacción Viernes, 30 de Septiembre de 2011 12:20"

"his really is scaremongering

lying mass-destruction weapon with this headline: "The Canary Islands government radio alert to all operators of the El Hierro volcanic eruption imminent within 12 kilometers of the island," the digital newspaper eldigitaldecanarias.net (based off of the Iron) yesterday managed to alarm the entire population of the island. The article was published at 10:48 hours claimed that "scientists believe that in the next few hours can produce a 99%".

At four in the afternoon while there was a meeting between experts and those responsible for Government Security and Emergency Canario, distressed and alarmed people waiting for the confirmation of information or denial of such a state of alarm and impending change that assumption and yellow to red traffic light.

After that meeting the Canary Islands Government issued a press release in which the executive insisted canary "that the residents of El Hierro must trust in the authorities, stay calm and keep informed through the media, on the official source of the Canary Islands Government and the institutions that belong to the Plan. In this sense, flatly denied the information published in online environments in which concerned an imminent eruption. "

This ambiguity requires clarification. Since the drafting of the Digital Iron working days we offer our readers a thorough and accurate information refusing to publish information from unofficial sources and could cause further concern among a population living for the first time in centuries the possibility of a volcanic eruption and felt earthquakes and tremors with which it seems will have to live for a time impossible to determine. It is not correct, although fairly common among politicians and media who would benefit from the ambiguity, not to mention the paper causing the alarm when it is well known, and leave in the same bag the rest of the digital press the Canary Islands.

What newspaper was made yesterday that alarmism and what they are doing today other means to not specifying the source of this misinformation is lax in most cases and other opportunistic."

Unless the tremors and quakes start to show a shallow depth for their occurrences... no immediate eruption can be predicted... so, for once the "authorities" are well counselled by their scientific team.

randles

30th September 2011, 12:02

Watching the shipping lanes... movement of cargo, and other vessels are still moving freely...
Watching to see what happens IF there is an eruption underwater.. :)

Calz

30th September 2011, 12:03

Finally getting more attention ...

Volcano threat sparks evacuation in Canaries

Police evacuated residents and tourists from the foot of a volcano on Spain's Canary Islands after a series of earthquakes raised fears of an eruption.

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Canary Islands: Frontera from San Andres in El Hierro, where residents and tourists are being evacuated over volcano fears
12:47AM BST 29 Sep 2011

With the Pico de Malpaso mountain spitting rocks intermittently and a growing rumbling underground, authorities made emergency preparations on Wednesday in case the volcano blows its top on the Atlantic island of El Hierro.

"I have never felt shaking like it," said Herminio Barrera, 25, a mechanic in the town of La Frontera. "I notice it especially at night. We can also hear a rumbling and sounds from deep down."

A municipal official who asked not to be named told AFP that 53 residents and tourists had been evacuated to protect them from the occasional flying volcanic rock and the defence ministry said it was preparing emergency shelter for 2,000 people.

"I am staying calm but there are people who are more worried, particularly those with children," Mr Barrera told AFP. "We are very close to the mountain. My father-in-law left yesterday."

The Canary Islands regional government said it was in a state of pre-alert and was stocking drinking water and medical supplies, but officials played down any risk of a disaster.

"We will not have to evacuate the island," population 11,000, said the head of the island's local council, Alpidio Armas. "The number of tremors has increased, but most of them are in the sea."

The municipal official said the authorities did not expect an "imminent eruption" and the island's official risk alert for the 1,500-metre (4,9200-foot) peak remained on yellow, or intermediate.

The national defence ministry said it had sent 31 military personnel to the island to help with the evacuation and Defence Minister Carme Chacon was heading there to inspect the emergency preparations.

The Spanish National Geographic Institute has recorded 8,000 tremors since July 19, most of them too small to be felt, but they have been growing in intensity. One recorded overnight on Wednesday reached 3.4 magnitude.

"We have not seen this kind of movement with such frequency on El Hierro since records began" more than a century ago, said a spokeswoman for the Canary Islands government, Ana Vidal.

The last volcanic eruption on the Canary Islands was on nearby La Palma in 1971, she said.

The evacuation disrupted the holidays of a number of tourists, including Tuengen Maier, 62, from Germany, who said he and his wife would spend the rest of their holiday on nearby Tenerife.

"We were having some wine yesterday evening when the Civil Guard told us to leave the house because we were too close to the mountain," he told AFP by telephone on Wednesday.

"We are just going to pick up our luggage this morning. This is too dangerous. We cannot stay."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/8795750/Volcano-threat-sparks-evacuation-in-Canaries.html

randles

30th September 2011, 12:06

Yeah !!!!
NO DOOM AND GLOOM HERE HUH ??
Just giving out the FACTS ..... There is enough speculation rife at the moment to keep the Sheeple nervous..
Keep up the Good Work Amzer Zo :)

LAUGHING !!! THE LATEST DOOM AND GLOOM UPLOAD...

Run for the hills !!! Little 'ol Polly is coming to get 'ya :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9yPCiZhW5M
Lumps together everything including the kitchen sink... doesn't have a clue of what's going on and confusing location... definite propaganda!

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3651:esto-si-es-alarmismo&catid=5&Itemid=43

"Esto sí es alarmismo
Escrito por Redacción Viernes, 30 de Septiembre de 2011 12:20"

"his really is scaremongering

lying mass-destruction weapon with this headline: "The Canary Islands government radio alert to all operators of the El Hierro volcanic eruption imminent within 12 kilometers of the island," the digital newspaper eldigitaldecanarias.net (based off of the Iron) yesterday managed to alarm the entire population of the island. The article was published at 10:48 hours claimed that "scientists believe that in the next few hours can produce a 99%".

At four in the afternoon while there was a meeting between experts and those responsible for Government Security and Emergency Canario, distressed and alarmed people waiting for the confirmation of information or denial of such a state of alarm and impending change that assumption and yellow to red traffic light.

After that meeting the Canary Islands Government issued a press release in which the executive insisted canary "that the residents of El Hierro must trust in the authorities, stay calm and keep informed through the media, on the official source of the Canary Islands Government and the institutions that belong to the Plan. In this sense, flatly denied the information published in online environments in which concerned an imminent eruption. "

This ambiguity requires clarification. Since the drafting of the Digital Iron working days we offer our readers a thorough and accurate information refusing to publish information from unofficial sources and could cause further concern among a population living for the first time in centuries the possibility of a volcanic eruption and felt earthquakes and tremors with which it seems will have to live for a time impossible to determine. It is not correct, although fairly common among politicians and media who would benefit from the ambiguity, not to mention the paper causing the alarm when it is well known, and leave in the same bag the rest of the digital press the Canary Islands.

What newspaper was made yesterday that alarmism and what they are doing today other means to not specifying the source of this misinformation is lax in most cases and other opportunistic."

Unless the tremors and quakes start to show a shallow depth for their occurrences... no immediate eruption can be predicted... so, for once the "authorities" are well counselled by their scientific team.

Anna

30th September 2011, 12:18

Yes, I agree Randles, many thanks to Amzer Zo and Calz Avaretard, they keep the information clear, level-headed and show also their loving support.
Meanwhile you are still in my daily thoughts,

hug from Anna

Hervé

30th September 2011, 12:22

Finally getting more attention ...

... a series of earthquakes raised fears of an eruption. [/B]

[...]With the Pico de Malpaso mountain spitting rocks intermittently and a growing rumbling underground, authorities made emergency preparations on Wednesday in case the volcano blows its top on the Atlantic island of El Hierro.

... evacuated to protect them from the occasional flying volcanic rock and the defence ministry said it was preparing emergency shelter for 2,000 people.

... the Civil Guard told us to leave the house because we were too close to the mountain," he told AFP by telephone on Wednesday.

[...]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/8795750/Volcano-threat-sparks-evacuation-in-Canaries.html

For the love of fear porn... the rocks "spat" off the mountain are the one shaken loose from the tremors... but that doesn't convey too much the idea of an eruption, right? But a mountain blowing off its top sure does!

"Flying volcanic rocks," now, that's an eruption, right? Rocks loosen out off their setting and tumbling down the mountain side because somebody stepped on them... nop! Not good enough to drive the explosive eruption idea... please, rewrite or find yourself another job!

randles

30th September 2011, 12:27

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/333(51).JPG&Width=517&Height=308&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 30/9/2011
THIS FRIDAY

El Hierro lives of its quietest days since the start of the seismic crisis''''
The inhabitants of the island of El Hierro experience one day with the least number of earthquakes senses.
However, the El-Marl Julan Las Calmas has recorded 67 earthquakes so far, but none felt by the population, according to IGN.

The island of El Hierro has recorded 67 earthquakes between 00:12 and 10:45 hours (GMT time which includes the IGN), this Friday, September 30, all located at a depth of between 15 and 18 kilometers deep and with magnitudes between 1.7 and 3.2 degrees on the Richter scale.

Although the south of the island (The-Sea Julan The Calm), where magma has moved, has recorded two movements of a magnitude 3.0 and magnitude 3.2, Web will not collect National Geographic Institute who have been felt by the population, hence the apparent calm feeling of the islanders live today.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) IRON DAILY collected by the last earthquake on the island found (and published on the website of IGN) has occurred at 10:45 GMT (11:45 hours canaria), in the south of the island, and reached magnitude 2.5 degrees on the Richter scale. The last earthquake occurred at a depth of 16 km and at sea."

crested-duck

30th September 2011, 12:41

Good morning randles, thanks for the info and I'm still pulling with you !

randles

30th September 2011, 13:07

Oh dear,....Polly spitting huh ?
:rolleyes:

Finally getting more attention ...

... a series of earthquakes raised fears of an eruption. [/B]

[...]With the Pico de Malpaso mountain spitting rocks intermittently and a growing rumbling underground, authorities made emergency preparations on Wednesday in case the volcano blows its top on the Atlantic island of El Hierro.

... evacuated to protect them from the occasional flying volcanic rock and the defence ministry said it was preparing emergency shelter for 2,000 people.

... the Civil Guard told us to leave the house because we were too close to the mountain," he told AFP by telephone on Wednesday.

[...]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/8795750/Volcano-threat-sparks-evacuation-in-Canaries.html

For the love of fear porn... the rocks "spat" off the mountain are the one shaken loose from the tremors... but that doesn't convey too much the idea of an eruption, right? But a mountain blowing off its top sure does!

"Flying volcanic rocks," now, that's an eruption, right? Rocks loosen out off their setting and tumbling down the mountain side because somebody stepped on them... nop! Not good enough to drive the explosive eruption idea... please, rewrite or find yourself another job!

Hervé

30th September 2011, 13:10

I may be wrong but it seems that Polly is going to rest her head after all those hiccups and go for a snooze... might even be an all weekend long snooze?

Hervé

30th September 2011, 13:18

Oh dear,....Polly spitting huh ?
:rolleyes:[...]

Nah! Slandering rumors. She's a better education than to dare spit in public... but out to sea and out of public eyes... I would hate to be in the trajectory... :brushteeth:

randles

30th September 2011, 13:33

Heres hoping !!!
But wait !!!...Oh no !!!!................ What will all the doomers and gloomers do without their Polly fix. ??
Polly deserves to rest for a while,.....that will be all the Love and Light out there that is calming her down :)
I may be wrong but it seems that Polly is going to rest her head after all those hiccups and go for a snooze... might even be an all weekend long snooze?

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Agreed !! Polly is way more educated than that...after all ..shes almost part of the family..
All we need to do now is teach her table manners :)

Oh dear,....Polly spitting huh ?
:rolleyes:[...]

Nah! Slandering rumors. She's a better education than to dare spit in public... but out to sea and out of public eyes... I would hate to be in the trajectory... :brushteeth:

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Pretty Polly !!

http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

RMorgan

30th September 2011, 14:02

Be careful Randles. Things usually get really calm before the storm.

jcocks

30th September 2011, 15:18

I had a dream last night where I was shown an island or islands close to a major continent. There was an air of urgency about the image I got, and I had the definite feeling of "war" to go with the image...

Not sure where the island was, but thought I'd post as it was quite vivid. I thought it could also have something to do with california....but really not sure.... Maybe there's more to the earthquake swarm than meets the eye?

randles

30th September 2011, 15:53

Your right, ............sometimes they do...and...........sometimes they don't :) Things are either 'Certain' or they are 'Uncertain'.

We hear it most days, mainly through MSM, using the word quite frequently.. e.g. 'We live in Uncertain Times' , 'Its an Uncertain World'.... The meaning of 'Certain' ?

The word Certain has 7 senses :

"1. definite but not specified or identified
2. having or feeling no doubt or uncertainty; confident and assured
3. established beyond doubt or question; definitely known
4. certain to occur; destined or inevitable
5. established irrevocably
6. reliable in operation or effect
7. exercising or taking care great enough to bring assurance"

All of which, more or less....give or take.....dictate to, and irrigate our perceptions and emotions. And I find it difficult to dance That dance.

So, although I will be careful :) I am also mindful not to sit on the sidelines of 'Certainty or Not as the case may be'....because....I am along for the ride :cool:
I know that Polly was not born back in July, Polly has been with Us for Thousands of years, moving away underneath the surface, having adventures along the way. These Islands are Age Old. Age Old. And WE are not ! If only We could all take away feelings of Fear, and Anxieties of what may or may not be with Mother Nature, we would be able to lay a blanket on the ground, break open the picnic hamper and watch her at her very best. Be it Mountains, or Sea, fields of Daisies, or.....adventures like the one we are sharing with Polly. I am proud of the way that the Community here have sent Love, and Prayers, and Hope, and Smiles, and Laughter.....Not to me....It was never meant for Me...It was sent to the Islands and the Souls that live here. 'Good' or 'Bad' Souls all received your light and blessings. It was welcomed and absorbed :)
If we do see Polly work her magic here and pour out another little Isla, perhaps it could by Our little Avalonia.. who knows ?
Its just that our 'History' only goes 'back so far',,,, and even in 2011..We are still trying to 'connect the dots'

The People of El Hierro has shown great Strength of Mind, It makes me Proud to live amongst these Islands !!

And anyway...If Knowledge is Power...... Where did all the Knowledge go ?

Be careful Randles. Things usually get really calm before the storm.

Pete

30th September 2011, 16:07

hey Randles
I just read this and when it spoke of exponential increase in light, I thought this message will cheer you up and allow you to see Polly as just a graph of how we are globally adjusting to the coming change. this will resolve itself because we do not accept it.
Read and enjoy
hugs

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/09/30/salusa-30-september-2011/

Hervé

30th September 2011, 16:11

Oooops... spoke too fast... Polly just woke up... see top of page 26 this thread.

To go along with the protracted meandering of Polly under these islands:

10163

randles

30th September 2011, 16:42

Oooooooooooooooooohhhhh !!!

But what does that mean ???

Please translate for Blonde People,,, :confused:
Oooops... spoke too fast... Polly just woke up... see top of page 26 this thread.

To go along with the protracted meandering of Polly under these islands:

10163

¤=[Post Update]=¤

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"The Pevolca confirm that earthquakes are located in the sea''which means less risk to the population''
It keeps the yellow light on El Hierro and tunnels remain closed Roquille.

SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es. Valverde (09.30.2011. 17:30 pm)

The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, confirmed Friday that the seismic situation in the island of El Hierro remains "stationary state". Santana explained that the island will continue to pre-emergency phase, volcanic yellow light, as he said "not yet ripe for return to a green light phase," he said.

He added that according to the data recorded by the National Geographic Institute (IGN), during last night reached the maximum magnitude of earthquakes was 3.2 compared to 3.8 of the previous day.

He reported that the trend in recent days that the epicenters are located in the Sea of Calm, which means less risk to the public.

Juan Santana, who was accompanied by the Minister of Safety and Emergency Cabildo de El Hierro, Maria del Carmen Morales, said the tunnels will be closed as a precaution Roquille until further notice risk of landslides. Similarly, those who continue relocated in recent days were forced to leave their homes because they are unaware of the security conditions necessary for them to return.

In this sense, Santana added that continued coordination between regional administrations, insular state and carrying out the work under the Plan. To do this, continue the meetings between the group leaders to coordinate action and have ready the means of prevention.

From the Canary Islands Government insists that the residents of El Hierro must trust in the authorities, stay calm and keep informed through the media, on the official source of the Canary Islands Government and the institutions that belong to the Plan.

It also reiterates the recommendations on seismic risk, because even decrease the magnitude of the intensity of events can make them more noticeable by the population."

Ravenlocke

30th September 2011, 16:47

Hi Randles,
this is my first post and I just want to add my well wishes and prayers for you, your family and all the islanders living in your part of the world. What you're going through I cannot imagine (even though I have been reading all this), but my heart goes out to you.
Raven

Hervé

30th September 2011, 16:53

Oooooooooooooooooohhhhh !!!

But what does that mean ???

Please translate for Blonde People,,, :confused:

[...]

10164

It's all VERY complicated, etc, etc... nah! It just shows when these islands were generated as indicated by the figures in bold characters in millions of years... see? VERY complicated... I bet a YouTuber is going to managed to turn that into something even more complicated and scary?

The older these islands are, the more they suffered weathering (erosion) and therefore the less high they are. Tenerife and El Teide are not old enough to have gone post erosional stage (in spite of what they say on that diagram).

randles

30th September 2011, 16:57

So where is Polly going............
The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, confirmed Friday that the seismic situation in the island of El Hierro remains "stationary state". Santana explained that the island will continue to pre-emergency phase, volcanic yellow light, as he said "not yet ripe for return to a green light phase," he said.
.....

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

Hervé

30th September 2011, 17:02

So where is Polly going............
The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, confirmed Friday that the seismic situation in the island of El Hierro remains "stationary state". Santana explained that the island will continue to pre-emergency phase, volcanic yellow light, as he said "not yet ripe for return to a green light phase," he said.
.....
[...]

I think she just turned around on her other side during her snooze.

The tremors are stacking onto each other and forming a trend that's less steep than before.

randles

30th September 2011, 17:11

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php/home/el-hierro/item/134-la-direcci%C3%B3n-del-pevolca-mantiene-la-situaci%C3%B3n-de-sem%C3%A1foro-amarillo

"The address remains the case PEVOLCA yellow light

Posted by Press Release
Friday, September 30, 2011 15:33"

http://elhierrodigital.es/media/k2/items/cache/62fb5f1024529266c6e71c0c0c9ddb3c_XL.jpg

[B][I]"The movements are located in the Sea of Calm

The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, announced at noon today that although the evolution of the earthquake on the island of El Hierro is maintained at steady state, pre-emergency phase will continue, light yellow volcanic as not yet ripe for a return to green light phase. He added that according to the data recorded by the National Geographic Institute (IGN), during last night reached the maximum magnitude of earthquakes was 3.2 compared to 3.8 of the previous day.

He reported that the trend in recent days that the epicenters are located in the Sea of Calm, which means less risk to the public.

With regard to preventive measures taken by the Steering Committee of the Specific Plan for Civil Protection and Emergency Services Volcanic Risk-PEVOLCA, which also involved the president of the Cabildo, Alpidio Armas, said the tunnels will be closed for Roquille caution until further notice for risk of landslides. Similarly, those who continue relocated in recent days were forced to leave their homes because they are unaware of the security conditions necessary for them to return.

In this sense, Juan Manuel Santana added that continued coordination between regional administrations, insular state and carrying out the work under the Plan. To do this, continue the meetings between the group leaders to coordinate action and have ready the means of prevention.

From the Canary Islands Government insists that the residents of El Hierro must trust in the authorities, stay calm and keep informed through the media, on the official source of the Canary Islands Government and the institutions that belong to the Plan.

It also reiterates the recommendations on seismic risk, because even decrease the magnitude of the intensity of events can make them more noticeable by the population.

randles

30th September 2011, 17:20

ign.es is showing 3 other quakes "Atlantico Canrias" in last 24 hours

30/09/2011 11:46:40 27.5327 -18.2859 33 2.4 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS
30/09/2011 06:01:24 27.5603 -18.1796 27 1.9 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS
29/09/2011 22:55:26 27.5801 -18.1292 1.9 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS

Plus, for some strange reason this is day no. 2 of RSOE EDIS clinging on tight to a marker mappie for http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EQ-20110824-32077-SPI....... I know I keep flagging that one up,,, but I have got an itch :)

QUOTE=Amzer Zo;321998]
So where is Polly going............
The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, confirmed Friday that the seismic situation in the island of El Hierro remains "stationary state". Santana explained that the island will continue to pre-emergency phase, volcanic yellow light, as he said "not yet ripe for return to a green light phase," he said.
.....
[...]

I think she just turned around on her other side during her snooze.

The tremors are stacking onto each other and forming a trend that's less steep than before.[/QUOTE]

randles

30th September 2011, 17:24

So......if Polly nodded off for a moment, you know, had a Siesta,,,and then she is accumlating but not on a trend of incline,......
....where oh where would the compounded energy from stacking be most dense,,....

So where is Polly going............
The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, confirmed Friday that the seismic situation in the island of El Hierro remains "stationary state". Santana explained that the island will continue to pre-emergency phase, volcanic yellow light, as he said "not yet ripe for return to a green light phase," he said.
.....
[...]

I think she just turned around on her other side during her snooze.

The tremors are stacking onto each other and forming a trend that's less steep than before.

randles

30th September 2011, 17:51

Registered daily count of 70...

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

¤=[Post Update]=¤

.............hardly stationary....

randles

30th September 2011, 18:02

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php/home/frontera/item/130-muchas-personas-se-marchan-voluntariamente-de-frontera

"Yesterday during the day the planes of El Hierro to Tenerife were almost full. Its occupants were mostly children and elderly people who usually live in family Frontera but somewhere else in the islands, which have decided to visit for a few days at least until it becomes clear a little of the seismic crisis Iron.

Upon arriving at Tenerife, in small circles while waiting for luggage, almost everyone commented the same, the unpleasant sensation of feeling the ground shake and their homes with the movements of the last days. Anxiety, dizziness, and restlessness. "No one understands what happens until you do not live a tremor in your own skin," said a grandmother of Los Mocanes he decided to spend a few days at his home in Santa Cruz with his grandson.

"Frontier has been virtually empty," a trader said this morning Tigaday center. "Many of those home Valverde have moved there to sleep especially if they work in the capital of the island." "The tunnel closed to isolate us back much of the rest of the island, if we add the earthquakes as they have felt from six in the morning, no wonder that people are still here who do not no choice. " "The precaution against what might happen has caused many parents have sent their children with relatives outside the island, which is not understood is that without these movements tunnel and classes resume."

"But the funny, sad and disappointing is that the mayor of this village call for calm, to fill his mouth to say that nothing happens, allow or ask who knows, the resumption of classes and then be him who do not send your child to school. In this that each draw their own conclusions ...". Then another circle was formed in the middle of the street. This time the comments were Alpos deception of the authorities: "We are telling him everything, hiding information because they want us to be scared but I tremble whenever I need to run the earth," said a neighbor. "Lucky that my wife and my children have gone on the boat this morning because this is going to get ugly," he said one of the neighbors gathered there. "I sleep tonight I feel more relaxed without the concern of my wife and my daughter to wake up by an earthquake, are better at my sister in Valverde" concluded one of them."

¤=[Post Update]=¤

This post I just found on the above website..
I posted this because the LAST PARAGRAPH WAS "Últimos modificados en 30/09/2011 - 15:47 "

The last Paragraph..

avid

30th September 2011, 18:07

Dear Randles - I've been watching this thread for days, and the 'spin' into the MSM full of doom and despondency. You actually live in Tenerife - NOT El Hierro - so you have always been relatively safe (apart from your initial panic due to family etc). I understand your concerns, and your 'light-heartedness' - but really this is not about your take on 'Polly' (which I find is 'making fun' of the dear peoples' concerns on El Hierro) but it is YOU who is capitalising on this natural drama, we know you are beautiful, you are in love with your husband, and you have 2 daughters, and a cherished dog. Please no more 'Polly' asides thanks, as you are definitely not in the line of any 'fire' where you live at the moment. Glibness is not funny in this situation - however we do appreciate the FACTS. Many many thanks for those, and for your supporter in all of this Amzer - much gratitude:-)
Avid :-)

randles

30th September 2011, 18:43

Hello and Good afteroon !!

Glibness... I must admit, I had to look that one up.. Glibness

Noun 1. glibness - a kind of fluent easy superficiality; "the glibness of a high-pressure salesman"
slickness
shallowness, superficiality - lack of depth of knowledge or thought or feeling

I think that you Fail to understand the reason for this thread, the previous seperate thread.
This thread was started the day that I KNEW that this was going to be announced in the quietest of terms amongst the Islands here. There was Never any indication made by me that I lived on anything Other than the South of Tenerife, where I have lived in a Canarian Community, living Their ways, speaking Their Language, putting My Children through a Canarian Education. If you were to ask my Children if they spoke Spanish: they would say NO !! We speak Canarian. In essence this is our Home. This is where We Live. And unless You have lived in such circumstances for any extended length of time then You would truly understand the Connection that all of the Islands have, and unless you embraced it and emersed yourself in it, You would have No Idea or concept of how to even grasp the way they are Bonded together.

I stated this thread here, just to flag it up again, and it rolled from there. Polly was a name that was offered up by a fellow supporter of Avalon. This was done to rename the graph and make it more Fearless. The name was derived from POLYCEPHALY, the condition of having Two Heads.. We (all contributors to FACTS and INFORMATION) were publishing information at such a rate for people INTERESTED in the events of what was being KEPT OUT of the MSM, that the heading 'long green snakey thing' for each header was too long, so Poly took over.
NOBODY on this Thread. LEAST myself, make fun of this situation. Do You Understand that at all ?
The Human Soul has to sometimes take on so much inner strength from itsself, that it is amazing the courage one can find, regardless of What Your thoughts are of my Geographical LOCATION from El Hierro to Tenerife. This is where I live, so perhaps you might want to take morning coffee with me and the canarians here in Tenerife with worried looks about their faces, knowing that children are being sent Here to be with families. Whether I am in the line of 'fire' or not / and I assume You mean spitting rocks....it would appear that you need to take a step back and look at the snowball effect it will have for these Islands, including Tenerife, at ALL levels.
As for your comments of my looks, my Husband, my Children and my dog,, All, I can say to that, is that it has been a very long time since I have listened to such an outburst and would not like to think that you are thinking bad thoughts.,
I have openly and privately thanked all contibutors to this thread, and in that statement, I too thank you for yours, as we are all entitled to our opinion. Whether it by Right, Wrong, or Otherwise,
Have a beautiful evening,

Randles

Dear Randles - I've been watching this thread for days, and the 'spin' into the MSM full of doom and despondency. You actually live in Tenerife - NOT El Hierro - so you have always been relatively safe (apart from your initial panic due to family etc). I understand your concerns, and your 'light-heartedness' - but really this is not about your take on 'Polly' (which I find is 'making fun' of the dear peoples' concerns on El Hierro) but it is YOU who is capitalising on this natural drama, we know you are beautiful, you are in love with your husband, and you have 2 daughters, and a cherished dog. Please no more 'Polly' asides thanks, as you are definitely not in the line of any 'fire' where you live at the moment. Glibness is not funny in this situation - however we do appreciate the FACTS. Many many thanks for those, and for your supporter in all of this Amzer - much gratitude:-)
Avid :-)

Hervé

30th September 2011, 18:48

ign.es is showing 3 other quakes "Atlantico Canrias" in last 24 hours

30/09/2011 11:46:40 27.5327 -18.2859 33 2.4 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS
30/09/2011 06:01:24 27.5603 -18.1796 27 1.9 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS
29/09/2011 22:55:26 27.5801 -18.1292 1.9 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS

Go back to this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=321578&viewfull=1#post321578 (post # 497 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=321578&viewfull=1#post321578)) where I explain how to locate the particular longitudes and latitudes to get an idea of where those are located.

Plus, for some strange reason this is day no. 2 of RSOE EDIS clinging on tight to a marker mappie for http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EQ-20110824-32077-SPI....... I know I keep flagging that one up,,, but I have got an itch :)

[...]
The tremors are stacking onto each other and forming a trend that's less steep than before.

No idea why they keep showing that one except to show potential EQ area. Other than that, it's another glitch in their program.

As for the stacking of tremors on the graph, it's where Polly is more black than green; and since there is less energy going out with the tremors (most now in the 2+ range) there are no gaps between tremors (also the graph scale has been seriously compressed in the last few days). If a gap appears on that new scale, that would mean a 3.5-4.0 EQ.

randles

30th September 2011, 19:06

Okay so when I went back and took a look..

you said "... something's off with RSOE EDIS data acquisition and plotting programs."

Why would they be so out of sync...

ign.es is showing 3 other quakes "Atlantico Canrias" in last 24 hours

30/09/2011 11:46:40 27.5327 -18.2859 33 2.4 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS
30/09/2011 06:01:24 27.5603 -18.1796 27 1.9 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS
29/09/2011 22:55:26 27.5801 -18.1292 1.9 mbLg ATLÁNTICO-CANARIAS

Go back to this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=321578&viewfull=1#post321578 (post # 497 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=321578&viewfull=1#post321578)) where I explain how to locate the particular longitudes and latitudes to get an idea of where those are located.

Plus, for some strange reason this is day no. 2 of RSOE EDIS clinging on tight to a marker mappie for http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=EQ-20110824-32077-SPI....... I know I keep flagging that one up,,, but I have got an itch :)

[...]
The tremors are stacking onto each other and forming a trend that's less steep than before.

No idea why they keep showing that one except to show potential EQ area. Other than that, it's another glitch in their program.

As for the stacking of tremors on the graph, it's where Polly is more black than green; and since there is less energy going out with the tremors (most now in the 2+ range) there are no gaps between tremors (also the graph scale has been seriously compressed in the last few days). If a gap appears on that new scale, that would mean a 3.5-4.0 EQ.

avid

30th September 2011, 19:16

Hervé

30th September 2011, 19:16

Registered daily count of 70...

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

¤=[Post Update]=¤

.............hardly stationary....

If you compare the red bar with its corresponding total (black) bar, you would notice that now the % is decreasing due to the orange bar (1.5 < tremors < 2.0) increasing. My guess is that they take "stationary" as meaning "not getting worse" which it was getting when the red bars appeared to be reaching up to total amount of quakes.

Thinking of it, this might have been an effect of that "super-new-moon" which is now over. Apparently, the moon has such effect on anything closely behaving like liquids...

randles

30th September 2011, 19:17

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/321(23).JPG&Width=392&Height=307&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 30/09/2011 (19:35 pm)
According to the IGN

El Hierro is convex 3.5 centimeters from the crisis began
The pressure of the magma in the basement of El Hierro has not only meant that the island has been shaking more than 8,600 times since mid-July, but has also domed, literally, the island's 3.5 inches.

Agencies, Valverde (09.30.2011. 19:35 pm)

The pressure of the magma in the basement of El Hierro has not only meant that the island has been shaking more than 8,600 times since mid-July, but has also domed, literally, the island's 3.5 inches, according to data released on Friday National Geographic Institute (IGN).

Until the morning of Friday, September 30, 8613 El Hierro has experienced earthquakes, of which only 36 have been felt by the population. Your maximum magnitude to date has been 3.8 degrees on the Richter scale and intensity (a parameter that measures how different the tremors are seen on the surface) was 4 on a scale of 1 to 10.

As he explained on Friday the director of the Geophysical Center at Canary IGN, María José Blanco, the GPS stations that have monitored the time the island have found that the ground has curved 35 mm, 10 in the last ten days.

This deformation of the ground-imperceptible to the eye, has occurred because the area east of the island is moving to the northeast and the far West is moving to the Northwest.

In the words of the responsible IGN teams deployed on the ground, the youngest of the Canary Islands, in geological terms, is convex as a result of this episode.

The data collected by the various research stations spread over El Hierro indicate that seismic activity has been submitted in the last hours and is lower than the one that occurred last Tuesday, when the increase in frequency and intensity of tremors vacate several houses located in areas at risk of falling rocks in Frontera.

In addition, the focus of deep earthquakes follows a significant, about 12 kilometers, and has not changed in recent days. Especially that scientists control parameter, because if the epicenter of earthquakes show a tendency to become increasingly superficial, it could be announcing next eruption.

For now, that scenario is not contemplated and the light volcanic risk remains at yellow (intermediate).

In addition, the seismic focus continues to move toward the Sea of Calm in the south of the island seems to have shifted to where the magma pressure, so an eruption to occur, it is possible that this could be underwater.

Only on the day on Thursday, there were 148 earthquakes in El Hierro, eight of them felt by the population. Its maximum magnitude was 3.8 degrees and reached its peak intensity on level 4."

Hervé

30th September 2011, 19:24

Thanks for your explanation Randles :-) I am not thinking bad thoughts - just stating the obvious! I admire your stoicism, and the untiring devotion to the islanders and the FACTS. I look forward to your commentary immensely, but please leave the 'burping Polly' asides out - as it's confusing and unless one has been familiar with the entire thread, it is confusing and questions your 'legitimacy' to a new reader. The MSM obviously read Avalon ;-)
Hi Avid!

I think that anyone should read threads in their entirety as that avoids redundancies and endless repeats of the same things for those taking the train of thoughts at the end without having any clues of what's going on and therefore posting on a whim.

Other than that I am glad you appreciate facts over flimsy visions.

randles

30th September 2011, 19:31

Now that you have familiarised Yourself with the Thread, and have now read it properly and feel less confused. Perhaps you would like to make a choice of whether or not to continue to read,. This event unfolding and the informaiton and research that it takes will hopefully encourage you to look at this from the outside in. Even You, regardless of Your geograhical location have the ability to also reach out and help, even if it just in your prayers for the Islands.
Nothing is ever as it seems Avid. Nothing.
A newbie, also learns as they go along, and they can make their own minds up.
The MSM will only have selective vision regardless of what is posted on Any Forum.
Perhaps you might start to use your stating the obvious ability energy that you have in abundance and channel it into helping us out here, instead of shouting it out from the sidelines.
Any help that you can provide would be appreciated, even if it is only to send nice thoughts :)

Thanks for your explanation Randles :-) I am not thinking bad thoughts - just stating the obvious! I admire your stoicism, and the untiring devotion to the islanders and the FACTS. I look forward to your commentary immensely, but please leave the 'burping Polly' asides out - as it's confusing and unless one has been familiar with the entire thread, it is confusing and questions your 'legitimacy' to a new reader. The MSM obviously read Avalon ;-)

Hervé

30th September 2011, 19:33

ViralSpiral

30th September 2011, 19:37

Please excuse the intermission........ I am glad to see one of my new smileys put to good use Amzer ;)

I love all the updates. Keep 'em coming!

randles

30th September 2011, 19:42

So could it be possible that the travelling of the earthquakes to the south are a result of there being no where else for Polly's lava to go, in so much as it has bulged to it max and is now still moving into empty cracks or chambers....in a southerly direction ?

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/321(23).JPG&Width=392&Height=307&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0
[B][I]
"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 30/09/2011 (19:35 pm)
According to the IGN

El Hierro is convex 3.5 centimeters from the crisis began
The pressure of the magma in the basement of El Hierro has not only meant that the island has been shaking more than 8,600 times since mid-July, but has also domed, literally, the island's 3.5 inches.

[...]

There we go again: from one sentence to the next we get an exageration from centimeters to inches... :bigfish:confusing everything and anything!

My take is that, after more than 8000 tremors, the island having been bulging by only 3.5 centimeters is quite a feat!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Its a bit quirky here tonight though :rolleyes:
Please excuse the intermission........ I am glad to see one of my new smileys put to good use Amzer ;)

I love all the updates. Keep 'em coming!

avid

30th September 2011, 19:59

I have always been familiar with the thread Randles, and am not confused. I am just saying that a 'newbie' (unlike me who has been a member for a very long time) may get confused! I am sending you all my 'pozzi vibes' as always. Of course I shall continue to read and hopefully be able to make any comment, or contribute positively. I take your comment
"Perhaps you might start to use your stating the obvious ability energy that you have in abundance and channel it into helping us out here, instead of shouting it out from the sidelines. as a wee bit of a 'put-down' - however, it is what it is, cannot be refuted, I have no ability more than others in 'stating the obvious', and anyone daring to question/state an opinion on this forum should never be 'sidelined'. I shall continue to read with interest all your facts. Thank you
Avid

Hervé

30th September 2011, 20:04

So could it be possible that the travelling of the earthquakes to the south are a result of there being no where else for Polly's lava to go, in so much as it has bulged to it max and is now still moving into empty cracks or chambers....in a southerly direction ?

[...]
There we go again: from one sentence to the next we get an exageration from centimeters to inches... :bigfish:confusing everything and anything!

My take is that, after more than 8000 tremors, the island having been bulging by only 3.5 centimeters is quite a feat![COLOR="red"]

That's a possibility if the first injection of magma gelled/solidified; but I have no data on that and I am not good at all at reading Spanish.

All I know for sure, from the increase in CO2 and other gas emissions off the gound, is that there was something coming up underneath. No idea if that is still in progress or migrated towards the sea as well?

randles

30th September 2011, 20:22

I found this, if it is any help..

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/sociedad/Escuchamos/rugidos/mar/elpepisoc/20110929elpepisoc_4/Tes

"We hear rumblings beneath the sea"

The divers of La Restinga, south of El Hierro, know that something abnormal happens. "Some days ago we were about 30 meters when we heard a strange noise. Trrrrrrrrrrr. So for a few seconds. As if the rock broke. Rumblings were heard under the sea. It is very rare," says Beatriz Delgado Cánovas, a geographer in Madrid that three years ago came to the island quedarse.orma indirect measure subsurface fever).
.
Are the growing tremors of El Hierro, well over 8,000, which increased in intensity since last Friday. Encouraged by the scientists analyzing the seismic-volcanic crisis, divers are now searching for signs of exhaust gas and measure the water temperature. So far, no abnormal signs.

Joseba, a leading Bilbao two years as a monitor of diving on the island, says that in about 45 minutes yesterday dip seven times heard the roar. "It sounds as if a ship was making a strange maneuver just above you. It is reassuring that the fish are very placid. In one of those times we were shooting a number and did not move. It was awesome," he says. Joseba added that yesterday the temperature in the Sea of Calm was 24 degrees, "normal at this time."

The testimony of the divers, one of the activities of growing tourist interest in the island are a unique test of how El Hierro daily note escalating tremors.

Not only increases the number of earthquakes and their intensity, but the island has been expanded in some areas about four inches and the flow of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the subsoil has tripled in two months, although still far from levels rash (CO2 escapes from the magma and measure how much it is an indirect way to measure fever subsoil).

So could it be possible that the travelling of the earthquakes to the south are a result of there being no where else for Polly's lava to go, in so much as it has bulged to it max and is now still moving into empty cracks or chambers....in a southerly direction ?

[...]
There we go again: from one sentence to the next we get an exageration from centimeters to inches... :bigfish:confusing everything and anything!

My take is that, after more than 8000 tremors, the island having been bulging by only 3.5 centimeters is quite a feat![COLOR="red"]

That's a possibility if the first injection of magma gelled/solidified; but I have no data on that and I am not good at all at reading Spanish.

All I know for sure, from the increase in CO2 and other gas emissions off the gound, is that there was something coming up underneath. No idea if that is still in progress or migrated towards the sea as well?

Hervé

30th September 2011, 20:36

I found this, if it is any help..

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/sociedad/Escuchamos/rugidos/mar/elpepisoc/20110929elpepisoc_4/Tes

"We hear rumblings beneath the sea"

The divers of La Restinga, south of El Hierro, know that something abnormal happens. "Some days ago we were about 30 meters when we heard a strange noise. Trrrrrrrrrrr. So for a few seconds. As if the rock broke. Rumblings were heard under the sea. It is very rare," says Beatriz Delgado Cánovas, a geographer in Madrid that three years ago came to the island quedarse.orma indirect measure subsurface fever).
.
Are the growing tremors of El Hierro, well over 8,000, which increased in intensity since last Friday. Encouraged by the scientists analyzing the seismic-volcanic crisis, divers are now searching for signs of exhaust gas and measure the water temperature. So far, no abnormal signs.

Joseba, a leading Bilbao two years as a monitor of diving on the island, says that in about 45 minutes yesterday dip seven times heard the roar. "It sounds as if a ship was making a strange maneuver just above you. It is reassuring that the fish are very placid. In one of those times we were shooting a number and did not move. It was awesome," he says. Joseba added that yesterday the temperature in the Sea of Calm was 24 degrees, "normal at this time."

The testimony of the divers, one of the activities of growing tourist interest in the island are a unique test of how El Hierro daily note escalating tremors.

Not only increases the number of earthquakes and their intensity, but the island has been expanded in some areas about four inches and the flow of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the subsoil has tripled in two months, although still far from levels rash (CO2 escapes from the magma and measure how much it is an indirect way to measure fever subsoil).

[...]All I can make out is that it's still active underneath the island and that gas emissions haven't yet started on the sea floor.

That's something to keep an eye on as well. :wacko:

randles

30th September 2011, 20:37

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/67(27).jpg&Width=360&Height=198&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 30/09/2011 (15:14 pm)
BY THE COLLEGE OF GEOLOGISTS

IRIN, Valverde / Madrid (09.30.2011. 15:14 pm)

President of the Bar Association of Geologists (ICOG), Luis Suarez, claims to government, national and regional consensus on the Canary Islands that volcanological creation of the Institute of the Canary Islands (IVC) for monitoring and continuous study of volcanic islands, not only in times of crisis volcanological.

Thus, told Europa Press, recalled that the implementation of the volcanological Institute of the Canary Islands (ICV) was agreed in 2005 by resolution of the Senate and the Parliament of the Canary Islands and has insisted that this is a "priority".

Therefore expected that the crisis in El Hierro will serve to expedite "definitely" the creation of the Institute, due to its "importance in the study and monitoring of volcanic activity in the Canary Islands."

Also, the representative of the geologists, considered "necessary" a particular volcanic geological model and for interpreting the data being taken because of the seismic crisis on the island of El Hierro.

Suarez has warned that scientists are taking data from the seismic network but they are not being tested in connection with a geological model "consistent" with geological and geophysical knowledge, both crust and the geological structure of the island of El Hierro.

Also explained that with this model, you can analyze the data you are recording both seismic and geochemical and surface displacement, which would allow a "better monitoring of magmatic processes" taking place, and therefore power make a more accurate estimate of the situation in El Hierro.

Thus, the geological model considers that integrate disciplines such as volcanology, tectonics, geophysics, geological mapping, hydrogeology, geochemistry, seismology, engineering geology, marine geology and oceanography.

ICOG president has criticized the National Geographic Institute (IGN), the body responsible in volcanology, as well as external scientific advice to geological issues, "there is no permanent geologist" present in all professional services volcano monitoring the world.

In their view, it is "surprising" that having a volcanic crisis, do not take into account the necessary cooperation of the Geological Survey of Spain (IGME), because it is an "eminently geological geology paradigm itself as science ".

randles

30th September 2011, 20:46

Goodnight Avalon :)

With a Total count of 8845 Registered so far, and a daily count of 75.. I wish us all sweet dreams. :)

Polly is hopefully going to calm down, run out of energy and hopefully go back to sleep
http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

Hervé

30th September 2011, 22:12

Found the data for last week:

http://www.avcan.org/varios/guayotas/20110921ElHierro_es.jpg

The displacements shown are in meters.

Spirithorse

30th September 2011, 22:14

Hi randles,

I've been following your thread for some time now and I want to thank you and the many others for all your efforts in getting this crucial information out.
I haven't posted here as I thought I had nothing to contribute (but you and the people on the islands have been in my thoughts a lot).

I have a subscription to the ECETI newsletter, James Gilliland, and El Hierro was the subject there as well.
This morning came another related newsletter and I wonder what you think of this...?
I can't get my head around this one...

Sardar
Stolen equipment to monitor the volcano Cumbre Vieja
Posted on September 11, 2011 by PPRNNews
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Image via Wikipedia

www.LaOpinion.es

September 1, 2011

<This was translated from Spanish via Google Translate-J >

Nemesio Perez argues that the "vandalism" endangers the surveillance program
that the group performs at La Palma for 15 years.

The Technological Institute of Renewable Energies (ITER), an agency of the
Cabildo of Tenerife, yesterday denounced the "theft of scientific
instrumentation of the permanent geochemical stations placed on the island
of La Palma in January 2000, for the Cumbre Vieja volcano monitoring."

This station was on a geochemical record of continuous emission of volcanic
gases not visible to the naked eye, over the past 12 years. Specifically, it
is the diffuse emission of carbon dioxide (CO2), an important parameter for
volcano monitoring. This geochemistry station was located in the northwest
flank of Pico Birigoyo and its cost is about 35,000 euros.

According to sources of ITER, the stolen computer is strange "because it is
an instrument that does not generate interest beyond the scientific." He
adds that the most common of those up the surveillance system, "the
photovoltaic panel and battery have been precisely those not of the season."

Monitoring of the diffuse emission of carbon dioxide (CO2), both in
continuous-through geochemical stations are lost, as in
non-continuous-through of scientific periodicals such as those performed
annually in the volcano ITER – are very useful for monitoring volcanoes.

The statement said there are several reasons behind this important and,
between them, could highlight the following: The gases are the driving force
of volcanic eruptions, the CO2 is the second major component of volcanic
gases after water vapor and is very slightly soluble in the molten
silicitados (magma) favoring this gas escape with its ease of volcanic
systems in depth.

The combination of these factors makes diffuse CO2 emission significant
changes in many volcanic systems is one of the first warning signals about
changes in volcanic activity.

The director of the Department of Environment ITER, Nemesio Perez, "this act
of vandalism, as well as non-renewal of agreement with the Cabildo Insular
de La Palma for the monitoring of Cumbre Vieja volcano threatens the volcano
monitoring program that volcanological ITER group has been performing in La
Palma for the past 15 years. "

However, since ITER is expressed gratitude "for the firm support that
society has given this project 15 years old, from the assignment of space to
place equipment, to facilities to obtain permits and logistics." In
addition, Perez appealed to the cause of this damage can be returned to this
instrumentation aimed at monitoring the volcano Cumbre Vieja, the most
active of the Canary Islands.

Hervé

30th September 2011, 22:34

For those interested in the location of any of the tremors since July, checkout this animation page, similar to the one existing for Christchurch and Fukushima.

http://www.avcan.org/?m=Animacion

tessie999

1st October 2011, 01:25

Randles,,,,, Thank you for all your updates... It seems some info is finally being forth coming in the mainstream .. I heard Mitch Batros on Coast to Coast 9-29-11 give his current knowledge of El Hierro. It was mentioned on the Today show as well as our local news ( Massachusetts ).
We are sending all the islands, peace and calmming energy . Shungo my friend !

Hervé

1st October 2011, 02:45

Strongest EQs for the day (max was 3.6):

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-01_00-01.jpg

For the day:
http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-01.jpg

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

Dramatic change of scale, compressing the earlier graph to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

White Rabbit

1st October 2011, 04:31

ah randles.... I believe I have the solution to get polly to listen.... Polly asks "am I doing a good thing? Should I keep doing it??" And we all need to play the answer over and over again until Polly gets the idea... (omg please let this link work... ) http://youtu.be/oKI-tD0L18A (and in case it doesn't I will try to embed it too?) It is definitely worth watching.... lmao!!!!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oKI-tD0L18A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

randles

1st October 2011, 08:32

Good Morning Avalon :)

Compare Polly's compression Graph as issued by ign.es this morning to the one Amzer Zo posted earlier

Good Morning Polly, and easy does it !!

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

There are 55 Registered this morning so far..

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

With a total of 8984 Registered to date as of 08.16 am this morning

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

At the moment there is NOTHING coming out of El Hierro via the Press....
I will keep you updated..

Have a lovely day :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

That is so funny :)

Oh NO NO No No No No,,.,. !!:)

randles

1st October 2011, 09:18

There is a very interesting Aritcle bby Jon Frimann from Iceland, as to El Hierro

http://www.jonfr.com/volcano/?p=1563

randles

1st October 2011, 09:40

Just in,..

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php/inicio/el-hierro/item/143-el-hierro-registra-10-terremotos-de-m%C3%A1s-de-tres-grados-en-dos-horas-y-media

http://elhierrodigital.es/media/k2/items/cache/a9ccd7cd1c4267a50c67ac0bd7180172_XL.jpg

"El Hierro records 10 earthquakes of more than three degrees in two hours

Posted by Editor
Saturday, October 1, 2011 09:0

The most intense episodes began at 1:25 am and ended at 3:55 minutes and was mostly felt by the population. In total, from 0:00 am to 9:00 pm this October 1 IGN posted a total of 47 earthquakes on the island of El Hierro.

The first episode strong 3.5 degrees took place at 1.25, three minutes later at 1:28 was another 3.4 degrees. At 1:37 there was a tremor of 3.4 and ten minutes later at 1:47 the island earthquake vibrated with greater intensity of the night, which reached 3.6 degrees and was held to 14 kilometers deep. IGN does not record any of them make sense but there are several people who have turned to the writing of this digital noting "that this evening have been more than ever" and adding "and what they say is away at sea" .

randles

1st October 2011, 10:42

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LVkR4HPq6qM/TZ7vWHxEMjI/AAAAAAAAAAw/YAR2b4vnn8Q/s1600/6324341.jpg

http://www.elpais.com/fotografia/sociedad/Lagarto/gigante/elpfotsoc/20110930elpepisoc_3/Ies/

"Emergency evacuation of giant lizard

The giant lizard of El Hierro is a species with bad luck. It reappeared in 2001, after being considered extinct. But in 2007, a flood inundated the breeding center and killed to 187 copies, the work of five years to save the species endemic to the island. Now the center is threatened by landslides and those responsible for the Cabildo de El Hierro finalize the transfer of nearly 259 specimens that are bred there.

The lizard (Gallotia simony) are cared for and played on a steep slope with obvious potential for detachment. Now may be the earthquake, but the rains came. The biologist Miguel Angel Rodriguez, one of the leaders of Reproduction and Research Center for the Giant Lizard, explains that the species is endemic to El Hierro and can measure about 75 inches (if you keep the tail intact, something impossible in captivity) . The fate of the reptiles in case of evacuation is kept secret, but first be saved to the females. The new center that the council began building to prevent another case like the flood is not yet finished.

The lizard is one of the most endangered reptiles in the world and is listed as endangered. Although it has been re-introductions in three places on the island and the population grows, there is only about 400 copies in libertad.máximo reached in the series of nearly 9,000 microseismicity that began last July."

ulli

1st October 2011, 10:50

I was WONDERING what this Hierro business was all about, coming from a metaphysical angle.
Duh!!!
Of course!!!!
It's about the battle against the REPTILIANS!!!
Thanks for clarifying that, Randles.

And they must be scared. Their skin isn't thick enough for the hellish heat of lava. But look at the efforts being made to save them.
Hmmmm.....

randles

1st October 2011, 10:54

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"COMPANY - 10/01/2011 (11:27 pm)

El Hierro 59 earthquakes recorded on Friday, seven more than 3 degrees"

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/44444(15).JPG&Width=448&Height=268&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.1.2011. 11:27 pm)

The island of El Hierro has recorded 59 earthquakes between 00:00:21 and 08:42 pm (which includes the IGN GMT) on Saturday October 1, 2011, all located at a depth of between 15 and 18 km deep and with magnitudes between 1.5 and 3.4 magnitude on the Richter scale.

The area south of the island (El Mar de las Julan Calmas), where magma has shifted, posted at 00:28 and 00:37 hours on Friday, two earthquakes felt by the population, both magnitude 3.4. The tremors were detected at 15 and 12 miles deep, according to the National Geographic Institute.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, of the 59 earthquakes recorded on Friday in El Hierro, we have detected a magnitude of 3.6 (0047 hours and 14 kilometers), one of 3.5 (at 00 : 25 and 14 kilometers) an earthquake of 3.4 degrees (2:32 pm to 13 kilometers) a 3.3 (00:50, 14 kilometers), one of 3.2 (also 00:57 14 km), three earthquakes of 3.0 (between 1:55 and 2:55 am and 15 and 14 kilometers deep).

The last earthquake on the island found (and published on the website of IGN) has occurred at 08:42 GMT (9:42 hours canaria), in the south of the island, and reached 1.9 degrees of magnitude on the Richter scale. The last earthquake occurred at a depth of 15 kilometers and at sea."

ViralSpiral

1st October 2011, 10:56

Have to say, made me chuckle......

But in 2007, a flood inundated the breeding center and killed to 187 copies
and
The fate of the reptiles in case of evacuation is kept secret
or
The lizard is one of the most endangered?

They are looking in the wrong place.... they are all underground

http://hankfans.com/images/smilies/th_thsunglasses2.gif

Have a great day Randles!

randles

1st October 2011, 10:56

YOU always make me smile Ulli !!
Have a beautiful day :)
I was WONDERING what this Hierro business was all about, coming from a metaphysical angle.
Duh!!!
Of course!!!!
It's about the battle against the REPTILIANS!!!
Thanks for clarifying that, Randles.

And they must be scared. Their skin isn't thick enough for the hellish heat of lava. But look at the efforts being made to save them.
Hmmmm.....

randles

1st October 2011, 11:00

Shooooobedoooooo !!!!
If the females get saved first.,... looks like the boys are looking out for theselves !!
Maybe Polly is the Mama of all copies ;)
Have to say, made me chuckle......

But in 2007, a flood inundated the breeding center and killed to 187 copies
and
The fate of the reptiles in case of evacuation is kept secret
or
The lizard is one of the most endangered?

They are looking in the wrong place.... they are all underground

http://hankfans.com/images/smilies/th_thsunglasses2.gif

Have a great day Randles!

ulli

1st October 2011, 11:12

Seriously though, drawing parallels is my favorite pasttime. As an astrologer I try to advise people who have anger management issues to let their displeasure ( hidden energy) show a little more.
That way they can avoid a major outburst as nothing or little is repressed.
The sign of Scorpio is associated with volcanoes: deep hidden energies are at work, in other words, the subconscious.
Or subterranean.
If El Hierro can keep this activity steady it will constantly release it's pressures and thus avoid a major blow.
This is the way to manage the transition period to the new world.
Remaining aware, in charge, but avoiding drastic measures.
Drastic can become trauma, and trauma scars don't go away.

So using the gardening image from the gardener in the movie Being There:
It's better to sprinkle your garden on a regular basis, rather than throw the plants a bucket full of water once a month.

randles

1st October 2011, 11:32

9000 Offically Registered .. Counting 71 Registered so far today.

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

ulli

1st October 2011, 11:46

Shooooobedoooooo !!!!
If the females get saved first.,... looks like the boys are looking out for theselves !!
Maybe Polly is the Mama of all copies ;)
Have to say, made me chuckle......

But in 2007, a flood inundated the breeding center and killed to 187 copies
and
The fate of the reptiles in case of evacuation is kept secret
or
The lizard is one of the most endangered?

They are looking in the wrong place.... they are all underground

[IMG]http://hankfans.com/images/smilies/th_thsunglasses2.gif[/IMG

Have a great day Randles!

How about if those "copies" that get rescued get adopted by Avalonians.
I want one, I want one.

I'd probably paint leopard spots on my copy right away.

randles

1st October 2011, 13:47

Polly is on the move again...3.3 just Registered out to sea

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

Total count Registered 79

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

randles

1st October 2011, 13:52

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 10/01/2011 (14:42 pm)
FROM 17 JULY TO SEPTEMBER 30

El Hierro and 55 felt earthquakes of 8862 so far resgitrados
IGN has detected a total of 8862 earthquakes until September 30 which had a magnitude greater magnitude of 3.8 on the Richter scale."

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (10.01.2011. 14:42 pm)

El Hierro shakes and will continue for the moment, a situation that obliges the government of the Canary Islands to maintain the status of yellow light, as recommended by scientists at IGN. Although the authorities in every public appearance, strongly encourage people calm "and we must learn to live with earthquakes", the truth is that the inhabitants of the areas where there are as many earthquakes are fearful of such dance magnitudes.

Until 30 September, the volcano monitoring network monitoring 24 hours of National Geographic Institute (IGN), recorded and located since last July 17, 8862 earthquakes, with epicenters both north and south of the NW ridge depths between 10 and 15 km. The number of events felt by the population is 55, with intensities II, III and IV in the MSK scale The magnitude greater than this number reached a value of 3.8 on the Richter scale, according to the ING.

In recent days, scientists at the National Geographic Institute (IGN), official organ for volcano monitoring have detected a shift of the phenomenon south of the island on the Sea of calms. Until this trend is confirmed by the scientists themselves, the Government will keep the yellow light, recommending that people watch for official communications and to implement measures for self-distributed, and that are still producing earthquakes.

This phenomenon is accompanied by surface deformations, which so far have reached 35 mm.

In the last week, from 24 to 30 September 1054 earthquakes have been located."

Pete

1st October 2011, 14:53

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/latest-interview-inelia-benz-with-lisa-harrison-thanks-to-arka-for-the-heads-up-on-this/#comment-5039

Randles Just to explain the concept of non agreement, listen to Inelia Benz listen about 0.40 minutes along. If you allow yourself to be scared and engage the problem or entity you are acknowledging their existence and you are giving your acceptance or agreement to be scared and affected by it.

so simply, control your fear and do not give your agreement,

Pete

randles

1st October 2011, 17:45

It looks as if the earthquakes are keeping their trend of moving South... :)

http://www.01.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

Although there have been 92 Registered so far today, the Sun is shining, the Sky is Blue and hopefully Polly is moving to pastures new where she can rest and sleep again.
Thank you all for your conscious love and light for these Islands !

Ruby L.

1st October 2011, 18:09

Thank you, Randles, for having brought the situation to our attention, and for keeping up to date.
Though we've never met, you, your daughter and all the beautiful beings of the Canary Islands are in my thoughts everyday.

Thank you, too, for your determination, courage, and for being the shining soulstar that you are.
Here's continuing to send you all the good vibes and positivity your way!

Post Update:

Lol! Just looked back at your post 581, the face off between the image of your dog avatar and the lizard is making me giggle. Especially with your "I'm watching you!!!!", and the lizard is looking as if it's been caught red-handed. :lol:

Loved the interepretations, Ulli!

Hervé

1st October 2011, 19:37

3D plot of the tremors showing the progession of the magma towards the South of El Hierro:

10207
10208 10210 10211 10212
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/pencil.png

randles

1st October 2011, 19:57

You are pure Genius at its best Amzer Zo !!

Thanks to You, You have been amazing at putting everything into 'context' /laymans terms for all of US here. For that I am eternally grateful. Events like these happen each day,,, and very rarely... AND YOU SAID IT ...something like.... never before have we been given the opportunity to watch something like this ufold....however it was,, You are oh so very right.

Thank You Amzer Zo, You are one rare individual.

Randles :)

randles

1st October 2011, 20:19

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/noticia/7688982/No+cesan+los+sismos+en+El+Hierro

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/content/maincontent/286.$plit/C_4_maincontent_400165644_mediumimage.jpg

"About 15 miles down the island's southwest
"Do not stop the earthquakes in El Hierro"
"The islanders make normal life"
01.10.11 | 18:04 h. Telecinco News / AGENCIES

The volcano monitoring network monitoring 24 hours of National Geographic Institute (IGN) has recorded a new earthquake on the island of El Hierro has exceeded three orders of magnitude on the Richter scale. Last night one of the earthquakes could be felt in the capital, Valverde, but the only fear that the islanders have is "to stop the earthquakes because that means there can be a strong earthquake." Pedro Quintero told by a resident on the island to telecinco.es informative website.

To stop the earthquakes is the only fear with the islanders PHOTO: REUTERS

Last night he was the latest move in the capital of El Hierro, Valverde. "In the Gulf to some friends of mine have fallen are the vessels of the kitchen but nothing serious. There is a minority of frightened people but the rest do your normal life." It's shown strong El Hierro Pedro Quintero and birth.

The problem, says Peter, "is that there are no earthquakes, because they accumulate and can cause gas that has a larger earthquake." The important thing is that it will release energy steadily. "In addition the center is moving away and sometimes not you hear of earthquakes," said Paul Quintero, a resident of Valverde.

"When we proceeded to evictions was not for fear of an eruption but landslides." A few years ago, heavy rains caused landslides that swept away the Lizard and now something has happened. "It was as a preventive measure."

The epicenter to the sea

The earthquake of 3.3 degrees and with an epicenter in the sea, has occurred at 12.46 hours at about 15 km depth southwest of the island.

This latest quake is in addition to 62 who have registered on Saturday from 00.00 hours, eleven of them with a magnitude greater than 3 degrees on the Richter scale. The major quake occurred at 00.47 hours, reaching 3.6 degrees.

In recent days, scientists from IGN, the official organ for volcano monitoring have detected a shift of the phenomenon south of the island, on the Sea of calms. Until this trend is confirmed by the scientists themselves, the Government will keep the yellow light, recommending that people watch for official communications and to implement measures for self-distributed, and that are still producing earthquakes."

Hervé

1st October 2011, 20:49

My bet is that Polly is gonna snooze till late in the evening and wake up around the same time as last night... as the people on El Hierro are saying, it's when the EQs stop that their scare graph start climbing.

Franny

1st October 2011, 21:45

Thanks randles for all your hard work on this at a difficult time for you all on the islands. I have been in similar situations and can understand the feeling of wondering what will happen next.

randles

1st October 2011, 22:04

Thank you !!
I hope what will happen next is that Polly will find somewhere roomy elsewhere and go to sleep, and wonder about Mother Earth herself, at her very best, could she really create a new Island. New Land created infront of our very eyes. But unlike You or I, Mother Nature does not need 'planning permission' from the Local Council for an extension :)
Just like the Islanders of El Hierro and many other areas new to these events in our World, we will all have to adapt and learn to understand Her changes and learn to live with them, instead of Fearing them and or predicting them or indeed future events to keep us Fearful of our own future.

Once you let go of fear, its a wonderful feeling
:)

Thanks randles for all your hard work on this at a difficult time for you all on the islands. I have been in similar situations and can understand the feeling of wondering what will happen next.

randles

1st October 2011, 22:20

Goodnight Avalon :)

The total todate Registered is 9024 as of 21.24 GMT

The Registered total for the day so far is..95

El Hierro is still enjoying the colour Yellow, and it looks as if Polly is settling down for the night,

Sweet dreams Avalon !!

Hervé

1st October 2011, 23:01

Latest for the hour:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-02_16-17.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-02.jpg
Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

Dramatic change of scale, compressing the earlier graph to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

Hervé

1st October 2011, 23:12

I have been rumaging amongst dusty old papers and guess what I found:

10216 10217

What these pictures show is that there isn't much left of El Hierro to generate a major collapse... local landslides, yes, but not enough for a large tsunami.

10219

Hervé

1st October 2011, 23:57

Then, I found this:

10218

Now, that's a very interesting one, once you start to make sense of what the sinusoidal curve represents... it's the sea level at El Hierro during the last two glaciation periods.

This diagram, then, shows when the major collapses at El Hierro occurred with respect to REAL CLIMATE CHANGES. And it happened TWICE! No room left to coincidence.

My bet is that these major collapses happened because it started raining again...

No matter what kind of earthquakes which shook El Hierro before that, they didn't manage to trigger any major landslides... only when the weather began to change.

Now, THAT is interesting... in my opinion anyway.

Terra

2nd October 2011, 09:04

I think you may be right Amzer Zo. Just went and watched an old Horizon documentary (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1703031945653817029) to double check. According to a study (http://wet.kuleuven.be/wetenschapinbreedbeeld/lesmateriaal_geologie/wardday-lapalmatsunami.pdf) done by Simon Day (http://www.abuhrc.org/newsmedia/Pages/affiliate_view.aspx?affiliate=25), the rock isnt permeable so water is held there in a series of dams within the lava holes and pressure builds. Water will not do it alone, heat is what is needed as the secondary factor, as the heat rises the water expands and pressure builds even further, possibly bringing about a collapse. Please note the study done was on the other island of Le Parma, not the smaller one, click on the links above.

The megatsunami scenario is based upon half a trillion tonnes of rock slipping violently.

I do not mean to be alarmist, just backing you up on the water theory. I have a good feeling about whats going on thanks to Randles daily updates, but I really don't know owt and am just following. I started looking into possible worse case scenarios for my family about 5 years ago, this was potentially the most realistic of all of them according to my research on floods. They really cannot tell when it will happen, between here and then could be far off, or it could be tommorow. ...and sorry Randles, I don't like disturbing your smiles, I love your positive attitude and think it is inspiring to us all.

randles

2nd October 2011, 09:09

Oh !!

I now have a great deal of difficulty for thinking without going off on a tangent here....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Map_of_1746._Longitudines_numeratae_a_Primo_Meridiano_per_Insula_Ferri.jpg

from 1746, Jean de Bethencorte...
my tangent is not on topic....
It supports,,, Bambaches, Underground tunnel -pre existing- and man made during WWII, Franco (El Hierro was a Prison Island)

Maybe for another thread....

Good Morning Avalon !!
The Sun is Not shining, and it look like rain :)
Oh Goody :)

Then, I found this:

10218

Now, that's a very interesting one, once you start to make sense of what the sinusoidal curve represents... it's the sea level at El Hierro during the last two glaciation periods.

This diagram, then, shows when the major collapses at El Hierro occurred with respect to REAL CLIMATE CHANGES. And it happened TWICE! No room left to coincidence.

My bet is that these major collapses happened because it started raining again...

No matter what kind of earthquakes which shook El Hierro before that, they didn't manage to trigger any major landslides... only when the weather began to change.

Now, THAT is interesting... in my opinion anyway.

randles

2nd October 2011, 09:28

Good Morning !! and Thank You !!

"Worst possible case scenarios " are a Grrrrrreeat place to start, because we are automatically 'pulled' there by our Greatest Human Instinct....Survival..
But I promise You... It gets better from there on in.
We use it in every day life..
What would be the worse case scenario in..

Being Best Man at a Wedding ??... Forgetting the Ring, or having Gas at the critical moment :)
Going to the Works' Christmas Party.... and three other people wearing that 'same dress'
Watching our beautiful wifes give birth to our Children....only to 'pass out' at the most memoriable moment :)

I am Not making light of the situation. Truly I am not...
Its just that Life is for 5 minutes. Just 5 minutes, and when you look back,,, 3 minutes have already gone...tick tock tick tock...

Dust yourself off of your worries, take that leap of faith, and enjoy the moment.

And your right !! Rock is Not permeable....that is why here in the Mountains of Tenerife, we actually use some of our empty Mountains to STORE water in... cool huh ??
La Palma is what it is. Other than El Hierro, it was the most recently active of these Islands, and as such evoked attention during the aftermath of its activity in 1971... 'Scientific' understanding is continually expanding, but unfortunately, Simon Days documentary, as exemplary as it is, has been used as a seed to literally water our Fear or What/Maybe.. moreso since we all have 'information' at our fingertips due to the evolution and revolution of the Internet. Its how we choose to use that knowledge that is the true test of our strength

Relax, enjoy the day... and I hope that you have a beautiful Sunday with your family :)

I think you may be right Amzer Zo. Just went and watched an old Horizon documentary (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1703031945653817029) to double check. According to a study (http://wet.kuleuven.be/wetenschapinbreedbeeld/lesmateriaal_geologie/wardday-lapalmatsunami.pdf) done by Simon Day (http://www.abuhrc.org/newsmedia/Pages/affiliate_view.aspx?affiliate=25), the rock isnt permeable so water is held there in a series of dams within the lava holes and pressure builds. Water will not do it alone, heat is what is needed as the secondary factor, as the heat rises the water expands and pressure builds even further, possibly bringing about a collapse. Please note the study done was on the other island of Le Parma, not the smaller one, click on the links above.

The megatsunami scenario is based upon half a trillion tonnes of rock slipping violently.

I do not mean to be alarmist, just backing you up on the water theory. I have a good feeling about whats going on thanks to Randles daily updates, but I really don't know owt and am just following. I started looking into possible worse case scenarios for my family about 5 years ago, this was potentially the most realistic of all of them according to my research on floods. They really cannot tell when it will happen, between here and then could be far off, or it could be tommorow. ...and sorry Randles, I don't like disturbing your smiles, I love your positive attitude and think it is inspiring to us all.

randles

2nd October 2011, 09:32

Polly has been noticeably quiter since midnight, producing just 29 Registered very low magnitude shaking.. Good Polly !!
The running Registered total to date is...

9073

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

Have a beautiful day Avalon :)

randles

2nd October 2011, 10:33

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php/inicio/frontera/item/145-la-crisis-s%C3%ADsmica-ahoga-a-frontera

"The seismic crisis strangles Frontera"

http://elhierrodigital.es/media/k2/items/cache/464131a32be92db1eb03bd70266fdd38_XL.jpg

"If even a few months ago talked about how the economic crisis was affecting the island of El Hierro and how the disastrous policy of promoting tourism and the high cost of airline tickets and boat had withdrawn the increase in visitors from the Canary Islands seventh island, now the seismic crisis has drowned Frontera, its merchants and the tourism sector and non-hosted stay.

The shops, bars, restaurants, apartments and hotels in the city the few are empty and as this wording has been informed the owners of hotels and apartments do not have one reservation: "There has been canceled, the reality is we did not have, nor are we expected clients or for today or for the next few weeks and if we rush or months. "

Frontera entrepreneurs say that there have been several factors that the municipality is dead and you have to cash them in overcoming specific measures and one by one if they are to many services, some even basic necessities are still in the area offering of the island which has a larger population.

The main and the other is rotating the economic crisis, marked on an island in which over any public work in a municipality where there is tourism promotion, and which must be added within the crisis seismic displacement of many citizens north with family and friends, temporary or permanent place of many people at the onset of earthquakes ways, the end of the tunnel, which has meant that the rest of the people living in the island was Border no longer go to the supermarket to buy the restaurant for dinner, coffee and a ride on the weekends ...

Given this situation at the border, not merely the fear that an earthquake occurs five degrees of intensity, but also the fear of many employers of failing to meet its debts and be forced to close their businesses and the fear that Current public representatives not to try and help create supportive policies to help overcome this state really exceptional confidence in this municipality, the most urgent and necessary repair of the tunnel that is giving notice of deterioration and disrepair long before the onset of earthquakes senses. This alone would be the first of many actions needed to cure its choking Frontera today. The concern is that these actions are not dependent on direct effort of entrepreneurs, but also require the involvement of several island management areas outside the true reality and efficient solutions that this town needs."

randles

2nd October 2011, 10:37

Please read again....

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/business/global/20iht-rbogisle.html

"€65 million, or $87 million, hydro-wind project with a €35 million government grant. It is 60 percent owned by the island government, 30 percent by the Spanish utility Endesa, and 10 percent by the Canary Institute of Technology. "

randles

2nd October 2011, 10:41

and here is the latest Update via the Press in El Hierro http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (10.02.2011. 11:12 pm)

The island of El Hierro has recorded only six earthquakes between 1:54 and 6:29 pm (GMT which includes the IGN), this Sunday, October 2, 2011, all located at a depth of between 10 and 15 km deep and with magnitudes between 1.5 and 2.2 magnitude on the Richter scale.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, from 6 earthquakes recorded on Sunday in El Hierro, the largest was of 2.2 magnitude (at 3:39 and 14 kilometers) an earthquake of 3.4 degrees (03:39 hours and 14 kilometers).

The last earthquake on the island found (and published on the website of IGN) has occurred at 6:29 GMT (7:29 hours canaria), in the south of the island, and reached 1.6 degrees of magnitude on the Richter scale. The last earthquake occurred at a depth of 13 kilometers and at sea."

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 12:13

Well. it seems that El Hierro seismographs have been on strike since 7 am... here one from La Gomera:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/EGOM/imagenes_sismica/DIA/EGOM_2011-10-02.jpg

randles

2nd October 2011, 12:24

Pollly,..is showing as leveling off...

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

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http://www.emergenciaselhierro.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=220:situacion-sismica-anomala-en-el-hierro&catid=114:pagina-principal&Itemid=53 is still showing Yellow.

randles

2nd October 2011, 12:34

"'La crisis volcánica se ha afrontado con la máxima tranquilidad''"

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/5(121).jpg&Width=635&Height=216,807142857143&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"The president of the Canary Islands, Paulino Rivero, has ensured that the regional government has faced the El Hierro volcanic crisis "with the peace of mind" and said "but you can not have moderation." Canary Paulino Rivero said that since 2009 has a plan for intervention in situations of seismic risk is that which has been activated.

Although there is no data that provide the high-risk situations, earthquakes that are occurring require preventive measures, said the regional president.

"Where there is more peace on the island of El Hierro and the islanders," although the situation has generated great excitement in the media, said Rivero, for whom the steering committee and scientific committee are doing well "reasonably well.

The advent of the Minister Carmen Chacon to the island with the device of the Military Emergency Unit (UME) caused discomfort this week in the vicinity of the regional executive chairman, according to the sources acknowledged.

Rivero had no plans to travel to El Hierro to learn about the situation of the island, but the announcement that the Cabinet representative José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero came to the area forced him to change his schedule. However, the two attended the meeting on Pevolca, the emergency committee to protect the population and follow the volcanic process in El Hierro."

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.... I liked this bit the best :rolleyes:

The advent of the Minister Carmen Chacon to the island with the device of the Military Emergency Unit (UME) caused discomfort this week in the vicinity of the regional executive chairman, according to the sources acknowledged.

Rivero had no plans to travel to El Hierro to learn about the situation of the island, but the announcement that the Cabinet representative José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero came to the area forced him to change his schedule. However, the two attended the meeting on Pevolca, the emergency committee to protect the population and follow the volcanic process in El Hierro.

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 13:46

Those ones at La Gomera were recorded at La Palma as well:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/EHIG/imagenes_sismica/DIA/EHIG_2011-10-02.jpg

randles

2nd October 2011, 14:26

:) Would somebody please help ign.es install their equipment or contribute towards the electricity bill :)

sygh

2nd October 2011, 14:49

randles

2nd October 2011, 16:23

An email forwarded to me from a business here in Tenerife, adjacent to my shop..

This is an email that was sent to the Proprietors Parents, after booking a cruise...

It was forwarded to me..

and it goes..

"victorio locutorio victorialocutorio@!!!!!!!!!.com to me

show details 17:19 (2 minutes ago)

The Spanish government have issued a yellow alert following an increased level of persistent seismic activity, described as an "earthquake swarm". The epicentre is on the island of El Hierro - the smallest of the Canary Islands, to the west of Tenerife and Gran Canaria. The island, popular with tourists, has seen over 8,000 tremors in two months, 150 since yesterday and experts fear an eruption could happen imminently.

Around 10,000 people live on the 108-square mile island and 53 people have been evacuated from their homes so far following landslide fears. However, a mass emergency evacuation is now possible with the army on standby for helping out in such an event and residents preparing to flee.

The British Foreign Office advises: "The local government authorities have raised the risk level of a volcanic eruption from green to yellow and taken preventative measures in case of a volcanic disruption, deploying extra resources from the military and emergency services to the island. Local authorities are also on stand-by to effect an evacuation should this become necessary."

Fortunately, no cruise ships are due to call at El Hierro, but there are several scheduled to call at neighbouring islands over the next few weeks.

Ships visiting include Independence of the Seas, Adventure of the Seas and Mariner of the Seas, Silver Spirit, Ventura, Queen Mary 2, Costa Deliziosa, MSC Melody, HAL's Ryndam and Boudicca, Black Watch and Balmoral.

A volcanic eruption has not taken place on any of the Canary Islands since Las Palmas in 1971 but an expert has warned that an eruption on El Hierro could take place in, “days, weeks or months,” according to Tom Worden of the Mail Online. Juan Carlos Carrecedo said, “There is a ball of magma rising to the surface producing a series of ruptures which generate seismic activity. We don’t know if that ball of magma will break through the crust and cause an eruption.”

A spokeswoman for Royal Caribbean said: "We are currently monitoring the volcanic activity on El Hierro to ensure guests enjoy a safe and comfortable cruise. At this time, Independence of the Seas and Adventure of the Seas are still scheduled to make all of their ports of calls. The safety of our guests and crew is always our foremost concern."

randles

2nd October 2011, 16:28

Nice to see http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/HIERRO.html looking lively again !!

With 52 Registered for the day, it certainly looks as if Polly is off on her way :)

randles

2nd October 2011, 16:32

http://elhierrodigital.es/index.php/inicio/el-hierro/item/147-el-ign-confirma-que-ayer-se-produjeron-tres-sismos-sentidos

"IGN confirmed that there were three earthquakes felt yesterday "

Publicado por Redacción
Domingo, 02 Octubre 2011 15:25

The Canary Islands government maintains the status of yellow light

The volcano monitoring network monitoring 24 hours of National Geographic Institute (IGN) has confirmed this morning that yesterday, October 1, there were only three felt earthquakes in El Hierro, in the early hours of Friday to Saturday, with a magnitude greater or as 3.0 on the Richter scale. The intensity III was the first, the second has not been able to quantify, and the third, fourth.

As you may recall, scientists at IGN, the official organ for volcano monitoring have detected a shift of the phenomenon south of the island on the Sea of calms. Until this trend is confirmed by the scientists themselves, the Government will keep the yellow light, recommending that people watch for official communications and to implement measures for self-distributed.

IGN has registered and located since last July 17, 9045 earthquakes, with epicenters both north and south of the NW ridge and depths between 10 and 15 km. The number of events felt by the population is 59, with intensities II, III and IV in the MSK scale The magnitude greater than this number reached a value of 3.8 on the Richter scale.

This phenomenon is accompanied by surface deformations, which so far have reached 35 mm.

In the last week of September 25 to October 1, 1129 earthquakes were located. In this period have been felt the next 51 events with their respective intensities"

randles

2nd October 2011, 16:40

http://www.canarias7.es/articulo.cfm?id=231537

Click the link to watch the video :)

http://www.canarias7.es/fotos/o/1109/231537-1p.jpg
http://www.canarias7.es/fotos/o/1109/231537-2p.jpg

"Diving for the epicenter

If anything stands out things El Hierro is the quality of its seabed. The port of La Restinga, south of the island is the hub of sporting activity each year brings thousands of tourists and supporting an industry that has become a staple for the El Hierro. But the fact that the epicenter of most of the earthquakes that have occurred in recent days is the so-called Sea of calms and deemed that the volcanic eruption likely to develop in this protected area, has done much damage to those living in the sport.

One is Iñaki Cayon, owner of the dive center El Hierro, the oldest of the island, and which has seen in recent days has received "16 cancellations from people who are going to go diving, but seeing the TV news have been scared and decided to stay home. I think it has generated a disproportionate public alarm and creating a mess that does not fit with what is really happening ", he snapped as he walked with Iñaki your boat into the sea of calmness, diving area for excellence in the island of El iron. "Let's go to the epicenter," exclaimed one of eight divers arrived from Barcelona, Zaragoza and the Basque Country, which challenged the initial fear get in the water right in the place where earthquakes have been more persistent. But after nearly an hour of immersion, these athletes left the water with a smile from ear to ear to have enjoyed "a luxury funds and over with the gift of feeling the occasional undersea quake," explained Iñaki Cayon."

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 16:40

Back to active...

Strongest EQs for the day (3.3-3.7):

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-02_19-20.jpg

For the day:
http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-02.jpg

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

Dramatic change of scale, compressing the earlier graph to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

randles

2nd October 2011, 16:51

Thank You Amzer Zo !!..
Polly feeling much better after her snooze then..

P.S. Its back blinking away !!! Volcan...is under engine power and heading towards where it is registered,,... 19 hours moored....and now shes off !!
Just saying..

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Correction...I cannot confirm where it is heading...watching the lanes..

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 17:03

"Diving for the epicenter

... with the gift of feeling the occasional undersea quake," explained Iñaki Cayon."[/I][/B]

That's quite a PR reversal! Good for them!

randles

2nd October 2011, 17:40

Moored again ... !

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 17:46

Moored again ... !
I guess many are either on standby are on "qui vive."

randles

2nd October 2011, 18:09

74 Registered,,, and Polly is still moving..

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

randles

2nd October 2011, 18:18

Here we go....

Just in !!

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"We are more confident''that the epicenter of a possible eruption at sea''

"According Alpidio Arms,''now the magma is located in the Sea of Calm, outward, and is becoming further and deeper.''
The archaeological treasure of El Julan, endangered by the risk of a possible volcanic eruption."

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/212345.jpg&Width=635&Height=230,1875&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (10.02.2011. 19:03 pm)

The president of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Alpidio Armas, Saturday was more optimistic about the earthquakes and that "we are increasingly confident that the epicenter of a possible volcanic eruption at sea, which does not represent danger to people, "he said.

Armas made the remarks during a visit with the press Tacorón area, closest to the epicenter of the seismic activity.

According Alpidio Arms, "now the magma is located in the Sea of Calm, outward, and is becoming further and deeper," he said.

THE Julan IN DANGER

On the other hand, the president of the Cabildo El Hierro, reported that the insular institution bring to the island, "ASAP," a team recording three-dimensional images to film prints of the pre-Hispanic Julan, given the risk that are totally or partially destroyed by a possible volcanic eruption in the area where they are located, called the Calm Sea, where are the epicenters of all earthquakes in recent days.

"Both of the prints as on the giant lizards have asked a technical report to specialists, and have said that no Aboriginal heritage or physical ability to protect human collateral, it would be a very important media delivery, but we can write images, so that if they suffer damage ashes were and know how to play "the president said Hierro."

sygh

2nd October 2011, 18:35

A period of adjustment, just as the doctor ordered.

However, that does bring up the problem of a possible Tsunami. I wasn't thinking about that. In the best case scenerio, a plain old volcanic erruption would be called for. A crack in the earth's surface where the lava could escape under the sea.

sygh

2nd October 2011, 18:39

:) Would somebody please help ign.es install their equipment or contribute towards the electricity bill :)

randles? In a heartbeat.

randles

2nd October 2011, 18:44

You are so kind :)

:) Would somebody please help ign.es install their equipment or contribute towards the electricity bill :)

randles? In a heartbeat.

Jake

2nd October 2011, 18:48

i am completely impressed by your strength and courage, randles. keep up the good work! We are blessed to have you here... i am inspired by your actions in a time where it would be easy to panic... we all benefit from your example! never let anyone tell you other wise!

randles

2nd October 2011, 18:49

Underway and heading to Los Cristianos.... eta 23.30

Moored again ... !
I guess many are either on standby are on "qui vive."

randles

2nd October 2011, 20:09

Thank you Jake.

ALL of the members of Avalon have been hugely supportive, working collectively as this event has unfolded.
A Huge Thank You to all, Most of All to Amzer Zo whom without his support the technicalities would not have been under stood.
Caltz too !! You are a Star..crested duck, sygh, operator, ulli.....the list is endless., Endless !!
The List is endless. Your community is Outstanding Jake, and of that I am sure that You are proud too !!
Thank you for your kind words :)
i am completely impressed by your strength and courage, randles. keep up the good work! We are blessed to have you here... i am inspired by your actions in a time where it would be easy to panic... we all benefit from your example! never let anyone tell you other wise!

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3.7 19.39

Pollys moving again !!

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

randles

2nd October 2011, 20:15

Ferries are NOT using the designated lanes....
Ferries from Valvedere to Tenerife are using the quickest point from A - B

randles

2nd October 2011, 20:32

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 10/02/2011 (21:06 pm)

The ING detects an earthquake of 3.7 magnitude felt by the population"

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/1101585.JPG&Width=369&Height=336&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

"The island of El Hierro has counted up to 19:39 hours (20:39 hours canaria) this Sunday, October 2 A total of 54 earthquakes, all located at a depth of between 10 and 15 km depth and magnitude between 1.5 and 3.7 magnitude on the Richter scale.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, of the 54 earthquakes recorded on Sunday in El Hierro, the largest was of 3.7 magnitude and was felt by the population. This earthquake was detected in the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas at 19:39 GMT which includes the IGN (20:39 hours canaria), and occurred at 15 km depth.

With this, and earthquakes are two ways this Sunday in El Hierro, the first 3.1 and the last of 3.7 magnitude on the Richter scale. Also, at 19:30 pm (20:30 hours canaria), has detected a tremor of 3.3 degrees, although ING does not collect that has been felt by the population.

The last earthquake felt, of magnitude 3.7, occurred also in the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, at a depth of 15 kilometers and at sea."

randles

2nd October 2011, 21:08

I AM REALLY SORRY ABOUT THE QUALITY !!!

But this is the best I can do to SHOW you that the Ferries are NOT using the shipping lanes from Valvadere to Los Cristianos.
I just feel that you Need to know this,
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiAt7QGCvM

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 21:18

Ferries are NOT using the designated lanes....
Ferries from Valvedere to Tenerife are using the quickest point from A - B

I AM REALLY SORRY ABOUT THE QUALITY !!!

But this is the best I can do to SHOW you that the Ferries are NOT using the shipping lanes from Valvadere to Los Cristianos.
I just feel that you Need to know this,
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiAt7QGCvM

Seems they quit the touristic route to make the trip in a hurry...

randles

2nd October 2011, 21:24

Seems like they have alot of Tourists to be 'Ferrying' around on regular runs over and above and in addition to their published timetable..in the late night...

Ferries are NOT using the designated lanes....
Ferries from Valvedere to Tenerife are using the quickest point from A - B

I AM REALLY SORRY ABOUT THE QUALITY !!!

But this is the best I can do to SHOW you that the Ferries are NOT using the shipping lanes from Valvadere to Los Cristianos.
I just feel that you Need to know this,
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiAt7QGCvM

Seems they quit the touristic route to make the trip in a hurry...

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 21:53

Seems like they have alot of Tourists to be 'Ferrying' around on regular runs over and above and in addition to their published timetable..in the late night...

What's the saying... "out of sight... "?

randles

2nd October 2011, 21:56

Amzer Zo...check out the airspace...you know where to find it, tell me what you don;t see....:)

Seems like they have alot of Tourists to be 'Ferrying' around on regular runs over and above and in addition to their published timetable..in the late night...

What's the saying... "out of sight... "?

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 21:57

El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?

randles

2nd October 2011, 22:00

Come on Sygh...... sort it out !! Fill the meter please,...I have some change lying around somewhere....
El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 22:16

Amzer Zo...check out the airspace...you know where to find it, tell me what you don;t see....:)[...]

I see planes landing and taking off but I don't see no route/lanes... What am I missing?

Hervé

2nd October 2011, 22:24

Strongest EQ for the day (3.7):

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-03_12-13.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-03.jpg

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

Dramatic change of scale, compressing the earlier graph to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

randles

2nd October 2011, 22:34

Its just quiet. Tenerife is even quiet on the streets.
I checked the departures from UK destinations for holidaymakers to...and there are about 4 coming here from tomorrow morning. Looks like the Tourist are gong to Corfu and Ibiza :p

Amzer Zo...check out the airspace...you know where to find it, tell me what you don;t see....:)[...]

I see planes landing and taking off but I don't see no route/lanes... What am I missing?

randles

2nd October 2011, 22:40

Goodnight Avalon :)

9138 Registered so far, and 93 for the day.

I will leave you with this... http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_update_read&edis_id=EQ-20110824-32077-SPI&uid=11480 Which is RSOE EDIS update

:)

sygh

3rd October 2011, 01:10

El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?
HAhahahahaha!!! I wrote a post dated check.

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 01:17

El Hierro seismographs have been off line for a while now, same for La gomera and La Palma... Sygh? Did you pay that bill?
HAhahahahaha!!! I wrote a post dated check.

Thank you, it seems that got it working again on the promise of making good... :tea:

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 02:58

Summary for the early morning:

Evento------Fecha--------(GMT)*----Lat. --------Long. --Prof.--Mag.------------Loc.-------------Info

1101657--03/10/2011--00:04:40--27.6358-- -18.0698-----18 ---1.7 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101657','2');)

1101674--03/10/2011--00:18:09--27.6580-- -18.0621-----16 ---2.1 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101674','2');)

1101677--03/10/2011--00:28:00--27.6444-- -18.0628-----16 ---1.8 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101677','2');)

1101678--03/10/2011--00:32:32--27.6375-- -18.0615-----14 ---2.4 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101678','2');)

1101682--03/10/2011--00:48:25--27.6547-- -18.0573-----15 ---1.6 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101682','2');)

1101683--03/10/2011--00:58:15--27.6316-- -18.0570-----15 ---2.5 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101683','2');)

1101693--03/10/2011--01:15:19--27.6298-- -18.0522-----15 ---2.4 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:abrirEventoVolc2('1101693','2');)

1101686--03/10/2011--02:17:50--27.6425-- -18.0479-----13 ---2.9 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101686','2');)

1101692--03/10/2011--02:11:54--27.6229-- -18.0600-----16 ---3.5 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101692','2');)

1101713--03/10/2011--02:33:15--27.6151-- -18.0584-----16 ---2.3 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101713','2');)

1101710--03/10/2011--02:34:47--27.6262-- -18.0609-----14 ---3.4 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101710','2');)

1101714--03/10/2011--02:35:36--27.6236-- -18.0558-----15 ---3.2 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101714','2');)

1101716--03/10/2011--02:36:09--27.6274-- -18.0516-----15 ---3.1 ----SW FRONTERA.IHI--[+] (http://javascript:abrirEventoVolc2('1101716','2');)

See post # 645 for the seismograms.

sygh

3rd October 2011, 03:04

We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 03:23

We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.

That would be good for the island.

What would need to happen first is that some of the magma chamber (ball of magma) escapes to the surface which is not yet happening since that chamber seems to be progressing southward as the days go by.

Hence, if any lava flow to occur on the sea floor, it would be further and further at sea where the oceanic crust is thinner.

With the red dots pinpointing the location of the most recent EQs both with respect to surface (top diagram) and depth (bottom part) one can get an idea of the southward migration of the chamber:

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pNSHKGo6mQh_O_Fbex_hJYKnnWFuAaKSxf8QjM9JCiwU0r2may-sELci4TyKAlszdWLzZa32lSCU/Image-2011-10-1-17h3mn39.jpg?psid=1

If IGN could generate a North-South section instead of an East-West... that would be perfect!

sygh

3rd October 2011, 03:47

We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.

That would be good for the island.

What would need to happen first is that some of the magma chamber (ball of magma) escapes to the surface which is not yet happening since that chamber seems to be progressing southward as the days go by.

Hence, if any lava flow to occur on the sea floor, it would be further and further at sea where the oceanic crust is thinner.

With the red dots pinpointing the location of the most recent EQs both with respect to surface (top diagram) and depth (bottom part) one can get an idea of the southward migration of the chamber:

http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

Yes, that was what I was looking for, I wanted to see the southward progression. I'm thinking of the flow of lava underground, continuing south, and not into the ocean just yet. Would rather see an opening crevasse, a fissure. An elongated vent. Randles made reference to a graph that showed the sea levels during the glacial periods so there should be some fissures. The topography is uneven enough and there have definitely been enough earth tremmors and quakes to cause a fissure. We'll know, if it travels a little farther south.

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 05:06

The Canary Islands are presumably the results of the activity of a hot spot (aka Mantle Plume) coming from deep within the Earth mantle and melting the above wandering crust in much the same way that a blow torch would melt and cut through a sheet of metal, excepted that in this case the blow torch is considered fixed and it's the sheet of metal that's moving over it.

This mechanism is also what created Hawaii and adjacent islands:

10224

The recent ages determined for the islands of the Canary indicate a similar wandering as in Hawaii:

10225

Another known famous hot spot is Iceland; and what's happening there can give one an idea of what may, or may not, happen to El Hierro Sea of Calm in our life time:

jZdeavURhk8

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 05:22

[...]
Randles made reference to a graph that showed the sea levels during the glacial periods so there should be some fissures. The topography is uneven enough and there have definitely been enough earth tremmors and quakes to cause a fissure. We'll know, if it travels a little farther south.

The sea level diagram I posted a while back:

10226

Was there to demonstrate that the major landslides which occured from El Hierro collapsing had little to do with earth quakes as the determining factor but rather with a major climate change: from utterly dry and cold to warm and presumably wet.

That happened twice in a row: major landslide at the end of a major glaciation.

Therefore it can be extrapolated that the next major collapse of El Hierro (although currently there isn't much left of it to generate a major collapse) is likely to occur at the end of the next glaciation period!

To answer your concern, for the moment, the magma hasn't followed any of these pre-existing cracks and fissures upward; only laterally.

randles

3rd October 2011, 07:44

Smooth Flow....Natural movement of flow..
Goodmorning :)
We could really use an oversite. Would like to see this seizmic disturbance travel further out to sea, if possible. Not thinking ball of lava, as announced, thinking flow. Let it flow.

randles

3rd October 2011, 07:54

Superstar !!
I think that it is wonderful that we are able to 'track' this event, and watch in amazement as Polly moves on encouraged by the conscious light of Avalonians here, willing her On Her Way, to a safer passage.
This is something that has been able to be done here on Avalon, with Education, Focus and the Support of You !!
Thank You Amzer Zo :)

[...]
Randles made reference to a graph that showed the sea levels during the glacial periods so there should be some fissures. The topography is uneven enough and there have definitely been enough earth tremmors and quakes to cause a fissure. We'll know, if it travels a little farther south.

The sea level diagram I posted a while back:

10226

Was there to demonstrate that the major landslides which occured from El Hierro collapsing had little to do with earth quakes as the determining factor but rather with a major climate change: from utterly dry and cold to warm and presumably wet.

That happened twice in a row: major landslide at the end of a major glaciation.

Therefore it can be extrapolated that the next major collapse of El Hierro (although currently there isn't much left of it to generate a major collapse) is likely to occur at the end of the next glaciation period!

To answer your concern, for the moment, the magma hasn't followed any of these pre-existing cracks and fissures upward; only laterally.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Good Morning Avalon :)
The Coffee Pot is on, the skies are breaking blue from the clouds..it is going to be a beautiful day !
GOOD MORNING !!

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 08:20

Good morning randles!

Seems like the acitvity has quieted down quite a bit... so, it may be a quiet day to prepare for a night partying again?

randles

3rd October 2011, 09:12

Good Morning Amzer Zo !!
Heres hoping for many quiet day :)
Good morning randles!

Seems like the acitvity has quieted down quite a bit... so, it may be a quiet day to prepare for a night partying again?

randles

3rd October 2011, 09:21

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"ESPECIAL CRISIS SÍSMICA - 3/10/2011 (06:30 horas)
ESTE LUNES, 3 DE OCTUBRE"

"El Hierro recorded 31 earthquakes, one of 3.4 degrees"

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (10.03.2011. 06:30 hours)

The island of El Hierro has counted up to 04:19 hours (5:19 hours canaria) this Monday, October 3 a total of 31 earthquakes, all located at a depth of between 13 and 18 km depth and magnitude between 1.5 and 3.5 magnitude on the Richter scale.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, of the 31 earthquakes recorded on Monday in El Hierro, the largest was a 3.5 magnitude, although not collect IGN page that has been felt by the population . However, it stands as perceived by the inhabitants of El Hierro detected the quake at 02:34 (03:34 hours canaria), of 3.4 magnitude on the Richter scale. This earthquake was located in the direction of the zone-Julan The Calm Sea, 14 kilometers deep.

With this, there are now five earthquakes greater than 3 degrees recorded by IGN this Monday, October 3, but only one has been felt by the population, according to data from the Geographic.

The last earthquake felt, of magnitude 3.7, occurred also in the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, at a depth of 15 kilometers and at sea."

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 09:23

Nice little clouds over there at La Frontera... beautiful day!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Busiest hour of the day (3.1; 3.5; 3.4; 3.2; 3.1):

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-03_02-03.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-03.jpg

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

Dramatic change of scale, compressing the earlier graph to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 09:50

All right, I am off for now, enjoy the day!

randles

3rd October 2011, 10:09

Thank nyou Amzer Zo, Thank You for Everything ! :cool:
All right, I am off for now, enjoy the day!

randles

3rd October 2011, 10:23

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/cabildo(82).JPG&Width=448&Height=336&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

EUROPA PRESS, S / C Tenerife (10/03/2011)
The president of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Alpidio Armas, has said that the Military Emergency Unit (UME) will remain in El Hierro "the time it takes" to "guarantee peace, power and communication services", due to seismic crisis.

Thus, in statements given to RNE collected by Europa Press, Armas has also indicated that the State Committee for Coordination of Civil Protection for Volcanic Risk "explicitly continue to meet to discuss this crisis."

It has also encouraged citizens to visit the island "with confidence because there is no problem." In this regard, he recalled that life and property in El Hierro "no risk" and "the peace that reigns in the daily work of its people." "The island is still running in a relaxed and normal," he assured.

Finally, he warned that the volcanic crisis is affecting tourism in the island of Hierro, since "have appreciated a drop in tourism activities typical of the region." Specifically, he indicated that "activities such as scuba diving and hiking, which generate the island economy, have suffered several cancellations on reservations because of this crisis."

With Regards to the above article about it affecting Tourism, El Hierro is a beautiul Island, as are ALL the Islands here....Come on !!!! The lava is flowing to the Sea, there is NOTHING to fear... I do pray that this turns around QUICKLY for the Islanders ther....Go to El Hierro, take a walk and feel like you are sitting on the edge of the 'World, there is nothing like it ;)

Muzz

3rd October 2011, 11:39

Hi randles

If you havent already seen it check this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31381-Heads-Up&p=324017&viewfull=1#post324017) out.

randles

3rd October 2011, 16:18

Hello Muzz !!! Thank You for the link.
I have sat here staring at this white screen for more than 5 minutes. So many things running through my mind to say to you,
So I can only speak from the Heart. But please understand that I can only speak for ME.

I cannot allow my psyche to 'buy into it'. I believe in Self Fullfilling Prophecies, and in essence, despite calling on the Universe for direction and wishes, I am always aware that 'beware what you wish for, because it just might come true'. I believe, that this kind of event can be 'attracted', just like the power of the mind can roll a cage or bend a spoon or fork.
I live each day, sunsets and sunrises, doing just what all of us do here...I do the best that I can in My job to create the money that life requires to provide My children and loved ones with food to eat, a roof over our heads and a warm bed to sleep in, in the dark of night; and all the while I kiss and I hug and fill them with love each and every moment of the day.
I love My life. I am at peace with myself. For the first time in 43 years, I can look at myself and think 'you didgood girl'.
At the start of Summer I took up Paragliding, and I love it. Running off a Mountain, flying like a bird, rising into the cloud to dance across the Mountain tops, catching the Thermals and then stepping onto the ground. Freedom. My Husband hates me to do it, because he is afraid. For Me. For him. If something should happen, the way he sees it and Says it 'what is life without you'... and so, I made him a promise (grimicing) that I would 'stop now' until he gets home. And I wait for My Husband so that we can fly free. Together.
Throughout my journey of life, I have found that the only thing that 'fills' me, is unconditional love, and inside ME, I have No Room for thoughts of Tsunamis, Destruction, Fear,...... Don;'t get me wrong, thanks to this thread, I understood WHAT a 'bug out bag' was. I understood from a huge array of Avalonians, that came together as 'Oneness' that it IS possible to send Healing Love and Healing Thoughts.
At times, it has made me stand before my Family here at Avalon and feel Oh So very Humble. Your compounded knowledge, Your communication, Your Oneness is something that sets You all apart from the rest.
Here I Fit. Here I feel at Home.

A 7-10 day prediction in that thread of Cumbre Vieje falling into the Sea...For me ?? Is just that.. A prediction. If it hasn't happened yet. Then it probably won't. I use the word probably in the context of....whatever probability we 'pull' from our consciousness dictates the next branch of probabilities along the way and so on...

My Husband is a reliable source for me. And regardless of the information passing to and fro...I count sunsets and sunrises, just the way I always have. Time is speeding up and the years pass all a little too quickly for me, for all of us...and so I am happy to count.
If this is Mother Nature, and she is growing, and bending and stretching; and we are 'stuck' as a Collective unable to adjust, in Denial, Afraid who to trust or what to believe any more, then we have to learn to grow and bend and stretch with her.
If there Is ANY truth in the thread that you shared, then I would Hope that our Creators do Not take Pity on them should this event occur.
I thank you for the link. From the bottom of my heart I thank you for the link. Please share anything else that you have, because regardless of how that makes Me feel inside, We should never stop listening and learning, asking,,,regardless of whether or not it is what we want to Hear.
Thank You Muzz. Thank You !

Hi randles

If you havent already seen it check this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31381-Heads-Up&p=324017&viewfull=1#post324017) out.

randles

3rd October 2011, 16:31

El Hierro has been more or less the same activity today, with a 3.7 being Registered at 12.48 today.
The Daily Registered count is at 68.
The Total Registered count is 9256

The Earthquakes are continuining to move South

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

randles

3rd October 2011, 16:37

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"The probability of a volcanic eruption remains low"

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioelElHierro.es, Valverde (03.10.2011. 16:03 pm)

The probability of a volcanic eruption on the island of El Hierro is low, while maintaining the alert, according to the conclusions of the meeting of the State Committee on Coordination of Civil Protection Volcanic Risk, which took place this Monday, October 3, at the headquarters of the Ministry of Interior, headed by Undersecretary of the Department, Pilar Gallego.

Committee members have discussed the current situation, forecasts and state media available to intervene if necessary.

The meeting was attended by the Director General of Civil Protection and Emergency Department, Victoria Maria Eugenia Sanchez along with the Government in Tenerife Subdelegado and the Director General of Security and Emergency Canarian Government.

The members of this Committee representing the Department of Infrastructure and Tracking for Crisis Presidency of the Government, the Directorate General for Defence Policy and Military Emergency Unit of the Ministry of Defence, General Directorate of Police and Civil Guard and the Traffic Department of the Interior Ministry, the Directorate General of Public Health and Health Affairs of the Ministry of Health, Social Policy and Equality, the Directorates General of Merchant Marine, Civil Aviation and the National Geographic Institute of the Ministry of Development, the Institute Geological Survey of Spain and the State Agency Council for Scientific Research from the Ministry of Science and Innovation, and the State Meteorological Agency of the Ministry of Environment and Rural and Marine Affairs.

EVOLUTION OF SEISMIC AND ACTION SERIES

The purpose of the meeting was to analyze the evolution of the seismic series in El Hierro and the measures taken under the Special Plan of Civil Protection and Emergency Response for Volcanic Risk in the Community of the Canary Islands (Pevolca), the study of needs and assets and capabilities of the General Administration of the State in the framework of the Coordination and Support Plans.

During these days, has been following the developments with a view to adopting appropriate measures and, if the means available.

After the recorded seismic activity and testing of various parameters and reports issued by the working group of the National Geographic Institute (IGN) and the Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas (CSIC) in its meeting on September 23 at the Cabildo El Hierro, the Technical Committee Volcanic Emergency Management and the Scientific Assessment and Monitoring of Volcanic Phenomena of the Emergency Plan to volcanic risk in the Autonomous Community of Canary Islands (Pevolca) decided to move from situation to situation yellow green According to the criteria defined in Pevolca.

On September 27, increased seismic activity and there was the evacuation of 53 people in the municipality of La Frontera risk of detachment, keeping the yellow level of risk level.

According to information provided by the IGN, the seismicity has increased in magnitude and depth, has moved south of the island of El Hierro, and much of its activity has been located in the sea. Because of its location, earthquakes are felt less in the island and landslides have fallen so much of the evacuees have returned to their homes.

During the past weekend (September 30 - October 2), the activity has fallen considerably. However, on Monday October 3, returned to pick up.

EVALUATION OF STATE MEDIA

Emergency Military Unit (UME) keeps deployed on the island about fifty of effective communications and 17 vehicles, buses for transporting people, ambulances, etc.. It has established a command post in the headquarters of control Anatolio Fuentes.

The Directorate General of Merchant Marine and Salvage has become a media planning and response times of their maritime and air units, for an evacuation if necessary.

Also, as a preventive measure, the General Directorate for Civil Protection and Emergency has been conducting communications exercises between the islands, among the more than 200 members of the Emergency Radio Network (REMER).

The Delegation of the Canarian Government has updated the inventory of media and state resources, ready to intervene if necessary and in support of the Autonomous Community.

ACTION PLANNING AND PROTOCOLS

When it affects the existing capacities in the Coordination and Support Plans to volcanic hazards in our country, the Basic Guideline of Civil Protection Planning volcanic risk, by agreement of the Council of Ministers of 19 January 1996, provides the following plans for coordination and support provided by the State Plan, Evacuation Plan, Plan of supply, shelter and social assistance, Plan of action on the volcanic agent Coordination Plan Information in emergencies.

From an operational standpoint, the above plans and how coordination and support actions might correspond to the Central Government would be complementary to the proceedings under the Special Plan for Civil Protection and Emergency Response for Volcanic Risk Autonomous Community Canarias (Pevolca) and everything that could define and establish the territorial council of El Hierro."

randles

3rd October 2011, 17:53

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"The deformation of El Hierro is about 40 mm"

ESPECIAL CRISIS SÍSMICA - 3/10/2011 (17:41 horas)

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHIerro.es, Valverde (10.03.2011. 17:41 pm)

The director of the National Geographic Institute (IGN) de Canarias, María José Blanco, said Monday in Valverde that the deformation of the island of El Hierro "this time round in the 40 mm".

Blanco, who was speaking after a meeting with scientists and authorities held in the council island El Hierro, the earthquake "continue to register below 10 km while maintaining the same release of energy from seismic series that began on the island" he said.

Maria Jose Blanco also indicated that the tremors are located 6 miles from the coast of El Julan, in the Sea of Calm, "so no changes to the previous weeks," he added.

Also, White reported that the National Geographic Institute (IGN) has increased the number of control stations, "with the aim of increasing seismic monitoring on the southern fringe of the island."

randles

3rd October 2011, 17:57

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"SERGIO GUTIERREZ, DiarioElHierro.es, Valverde (10.03.2011. 18:27 pm)

The area of El-Mar Julan Las Calmas Monday is being shaken more intense than other days. Of the 91 earthquakes recorded until 16:12 GMT (17:12 hours canaria), and 7 have been felt by the population of La Restinga, El Golfo, El Pinar and Isora, as confirmed to DAILY IRON people who have seen the earthquakes.

Of all felt earthquakes, the most watched series occurred in the early hours of Monday with a sense every minute earthquake, recorded at 3:34, 3:35 and 3:36 hours Canary and magnitudes of 3.4, 3.2 and 3.1 degrees respectively.

The shock so far has been the 3.7-magnitude on the Richter scale and intensity IV on the MSK scale, which was detected at 12:48 GMT (13:48 hours canaria), 12 km deep , although this does not reflect IGN shaking has been felt by the population.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, seven earthquakes were way on Monday between 2.9 and 3.4 magnitude on the Richter scale and 10 and 14 kilometers deep. To date, ING has identified eight earthquakes above magnitude 3 and one of 3.0 magnitude on the Richter scale."

randles

3rd October 2011, 20:23

An early Goodnight from me :)
ign.es has not updated for a couple of hours or so.

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

71 are registered so far for the day, and it would seem that Pollys energy is still moving South. Good news !! :)

Goodnight Avalon, Sweet dreams :)

Hervé

3rd October 2011, 23:14

Hi randles

If you havent already seen it check this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31381-Heads-Up&p=324017&viewfull=1#post324017) out.

Hi Muzz!

See, this is what we are trying to disentangle and clarify here:

"Most urgent is John Moore's report from his contact that a volcano
on the Canary Islands is about to erupt in about seven to ten days.
Geologists agree that if the Cumbre Vieja volcano erupts, its resulting
landslide will surely generate a tsunami that will kill many millions
of people along the East Coast of the Americas, from Canada, down
over the United States, the Caribbean Islands, and down through
Central and South America."

John Moore is a good guy but he has got his data completely confused: the volcano that may erupt is El Hierro, not the Cumbre Vieja. With the switcheroo, there goes :bigfish: switching from El Hierro to Cumbre Vieja...

Then, even with the Cumbre Vieja, there is the matter of how fast a slide of its flank can take place... anything more than instant and there goes the doom & gloom propaganda down the drain!

Simply because the catastrophic model used wouldn't work anymore if the slide takes an hour or more to complete.

Even if Cumbre Vieja erupts as it did very recently -- without one of its flanks sliding more than 4 meters; that is, like a house, it settled better on its foundations -- a full slide is not a necessary result.

One can go down very dark rabbit holes with "ifs," but what's the actual reality?

That's what we are attempting to establish in this thread.

Hervé

4th October 2011, 00:34

* Edit *

Updating graphs and webcam snapshot for Oct. 4th moved to next page (34).

Hervé

4th October 2011, 01:46

Always, always, always... follow the @#&%^! money:

When the original research was published in 2001 [two geologists (Day and McGuire) hypothesised that during a future eruption, the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja), with a mass of approximately 1.5 x1015 kg, could slide into the ocean. This could then potentially generate a giant wave which they termed a “megatsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatsunami)” around 650–900 m high in the region of the islands], the Spanish press and scientists were heavily critical of the way it was reported. El País noted that the research group was entirely funded by an insurance company, something entirely ignored by the British press.

". it is hypothetical and moreover improbable, and the model would not have passed the stage of an elegant theoretical exercise if the authors had not spent a week publically airing it before publishing it tomorrow in a specialised journal. Why so much interest in publicising it? The explanation perhaps lies in the fact that the research centre is funded by an insurance company, concerned with natural catastrophes ".

Thanks to Stegosaur (http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31381-Heads-Up&p=324227&viewfull=1#post324227) for discovering the article the above is excerpted from: http://www.iberianature.com/material/megatsunami.html

Said article where I found I am not alone in my assessment of Cumbre Vieja:

Latest from BBC 29 October 2004
Tidal wave threat 'over-hyped'
The risk of a landslide in the Canary Islands causing a tidal wave (tsunami) able to devastate America's east coast is vastly overstated.

That is the view of marine geologists studying ancient landslides in the area.
In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.

This contradicts previous warnings that an Isle of Man-sized chunk of land could fall off the island of La Palma into the sea, causing a mega-tsunami.
Full article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3963563.stm)

Operator

4th October 2011, 03:56

B.t.w. John Moore can be hired as a consultant on disaster prevention. He changed the title from

Global Warming: What The Government Isn't Telling You
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to

Planet-x what the Government is not telling you[Guest John Moore.wmv
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So maybe he has to make first his own mind up before he tells others what to think .... ;)

Hervé

4th October 2011, 08:05

Hmmmm... vested interest then...

randles

4th October 2011, 09:37

Good Morning Avalon :)

It would appear that Pollys shaking energy is on a steady decline as she moves futher South..

This is a header note provided by http://www.02.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/sismoListadoTerremotos.do?zona=1&cantidad_dias=10 this morning

"As originally recorded earthquakes on the island of El Hierro have had their epicenter in the term Frontera, has continued under this name in order not to change the name of the seismic series, although the nearest coastal municipality the current submarine epicenters is El Pinar".

¤=[Post Update]=¤

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

"AHI-CC suggests that students can sleep in the Frontier school residence Valverde

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.4.2011. 0700 hours)

The directors of AHI-CC at the Cabildo de El Hierro have filed a motion in which the Corporation proposes El Hierro Frontera students have a place in the school residence Valverde''to avoid the disorder and the increased delay time ''because at the end of the tunnel in Los Roquille, forcing them to raise capital to El Hierro by the former route of the summit, longer stroke.

According to islanders nationalists explain in a note, "after the end of the tunnel by the Los Roquille problems encountered within the same, a fact that has caused since last Thursday, September 29, will remain closed until the date without a certain expectation of when it will proceed with its opening, causing the diversion of vehicular traffic on H1 road known as the Summit, "he explained.

In this sense, AHI-CC proposes to the full that "to avoid the disorder and the increased delay time resident students leading to bachelor's Border and vocational training offered at Valverde, who number approximately 42 users school bus, who daily suffer this setback, with the usual problem of organization for families "are subject to the interest of the families of the border, the possibility of reopening the Valverde dormitory during school days, in order to avoid unnecessary travel by the H1 and the usual time and cost savings for transport users and their families, "they say."

sygh

4th October 2011, 09:38

randles

4th October 2011, 09:41

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/04/2011)

The island of El Hierro has recorded up to 7:28 GMT (08:28 hours canaria) this Tuesday, October 4 out of 25 earthquakes, two of them felt by the population.

The two tremors perceived by the people of Frontera, El Pinar and La Restinga, of 3.3 and 2.9 magnitude on the scale of Riotcher, there were, the first one at 05:50 GMT (06:58 hours canaria), and the second quake, at 06:05 GMT (07:05 hours canaria), in the El-Mar Julan Las Calmas, and 13 and 14 km deep, respectively. The largest movement of 3.6 magnitude, occurred at 2:10 GMT (3:10 hours canaria), although no records that IGN has been felt.

The rest of recorded earthquakes were located on Tuesday located at a depth of between 14 and 18 kilometers deep and with magnitudes between 1.6 and 3.6 magnitude on the Richter scale.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, of the 25 earthquakes recorded on Tuesday in El Hierro, the last to occur was of 1.8 magnitude in the south of the island at a depth of 14 kilometers and at sea."

Hervé

4th October 2011, 09:54

Thank you Amzer Zo, that was a fantastic lesson. I'd like to see an island being born, wouldn't you? A bit further south, for obvious reasons. With the earth's crust moving above this fixed hot spot, is there anything to be concluded as to distance traveled from the last episode (El Hierro) and the possible new area of venting? What about any involvement coming from our magnetic field, or the influence it would have with its fluxuation?

A southern extension of El Hierro is what is now being expected if the magma ever reaches the surface.

As far as the displacement that occurred since El Hierro formed, I have no idea since Africa and its passive margin has been butting against Europe and started to go underneath it. Form the current activity, it doesn't appear that there has been much migration.

randles

4th October 2011, 09:58

Here is a reminder from CANARIAS7....about the La Palma Eruption, and the information and misinformation, historically and otherwise....

http://www.canarias7.es/articulo.cfm?id=231936

"The eruption of Teneguía: uncertainty before, tranquility and tourism after"

"Traductor
The eruption of the volcano Teneguía, La Palma, occurred in the fall of 1971 and was preceded by a period of uncertainty in the population, the large number of earthquakes there, and became an unforgettable memory for the palm and an event that brought tourism to the island.

People were scared before the eruption, the succession of earthquakes caused the palm sometimes have to go out of their houses, and there were even those who slept in tents, reminiscent of Juan Jose Santos Efe, a neighbor who lived Fuencaliente first-person event.

Intense tremors, earthquakes strong enough and cracked houses caused the scare people, especially given the uncertainty of where the volcano erupt, says Juan Jose Santos.

However, when the October 26 Teneguía erupted on the island people attended breathed a quiet and unforgettable event of your memories, day and night there was a parade of people to see the volcano.

It was a typical rash, which produced a few low-lying volcanic cones and a series of lava that fell into the sea. Once started the eruption was a major attraction for the island, told Efe volcanologist Juan Carlos Carracedo CSIC.

Teneguía was the last eruption occurred in Spain and caused the deaths of two people, a photographer and a fisherman who got too close and went into a place where they died from lack of oxygen, recalls the volcanologist.

There was a lot of misinformation, many people make the mistake of getting too close to the volcano and the lava, and ignoring the presence of hazardous gases, laments Juan Jose Santos.

When times were Teneguía erupted and there were no existing instruments for measuring earthquakes and provide for a possible eruption.

The only information that was obtained by chance came as the American Information Agency (USIA) observed a large number of earthquakes, which were not perceived by the population, with a series of hydrophones that were installed in the south of La Palma monitor the passage of Soviet submarines, describes Carracedo.

The National Geographic Institute (IGN) documents fourteen episodes of eruptions took place in Spain since the fifteenth century, all in the Canaries.

To find the last eruption before Teneguía have to go back to 1949 and placed in the volcanoes of Nambroque, Peach and Llano del Banco, also in La Palma.

The first eruption in Spain than there is photographic documentation and geological studies was between 18 to November 27, 1909, when the volcano erupted Chinyero Tenerife.

And the first of which is recorded in the Geographical Institute at the volcano occurred or Burnt Mountain Tacande La Palma, although no damage data and the date is set, so vague, between 1430 and 1440.

Is even more inaccurate the second reference made by IGN, an eruption that occurred between 24 and 25 August 1492 in the Canary Islands and was seen by Christopher Columbus."

Hervé

4th October 2011, 10:00

Strongest EQ for the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-04_02-03.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-04.jpg
Edit: the big,fat red one at 2:10 am above, was a 3.6

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

The continuously changing scale keeps compressing the earlier graphs to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from Las Puntas de La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

Refresh your browser page to get the latest graphs and picture.

Hervé

4th October 2011, 11:25

Following the count of EQs as shown by the red bars (>2.0) there seem to be a subsiding of the overall activity, provided the trend continues:

http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

As for the location of the most recent EQs (red dots), they remain in the Julan Sea of Calm:

http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

Refresh your browser page to get the latest numbers and positions.

randles

4th October 2011, 11:38

http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 4/10/2011

"Telefónica ensure vital communications in El Hierro if necessary

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/04/2011)

Telefónica has launched its contingency plan to ensure the functioning of vital telecommunications services in the Island of Hierro to a possible volcanic eruption. The operator, aware of the importance of telecommunications to the island population and the El Hierro in particular, has developed this package early enough and according to Platec (Plan territorial emergency civil protection Autonomous Islands), reported in a note.

The contingency plan includes an array of technical and human resources so far unprecedented on the island. Over one hundred people from different departments of the company have been activated and are acting now to ensure the island telecommunications services, giving priority to emergency communications and media security, and monitoring of large infrastructures.

Telefónica territorial leaders have maintained permanent contact to coordinate efforts to develop, both responsible for the Cabildo Insular de El Hierro, as with the General Directorate of Security and Emergency and the Directorate General of Telecommunications, Government of the Canaries.

With the launch, as a preventive of this Contingency Plan, which is another example of the company's commitment to the Canary Islands, where it has 850 employees with 2,000 other partner companies, Telefónica is anticipating one more time to act with greater speed, quality and efficacy, if it was necessary to safeguard telecommunications in the island of El Hierro and from there to the outside.

The contingency plan includes volcanic risk the likely scenarios and its impact on Telefónica plant in all its services and consists of 8 actions:

1 .- Convening of the Emergency Committee, to coordinate the technical and human resources necessary to secure communications.

2 .- Enabling Territorial Coordination team. To establish a channel of direct communication and coordination with the Security and Emergency Administration of the Canary Islands, being located in person a partner of Telefonica in the CECOES Tenerife and one in the Cecoi of El Hierro, actions contained within the Territorial Emergency Plan for Protection Civil Canary Islands (Platec) as "basic services".

3 .- Implementation of actions to ensure communications in case of submarine cable cut-La Gomera El Hierro FIG. Works have been developed to safeguard communications, emergency services, fixed telephony, mobile telephony, internet, other circuit carriers and private circuits for customers. For what it is necessary to operate in different transport systems via radio signal with alternate routes for La Palma and La Gomera.

4 .- Make sure the power supply using portable generators and batteries. They ensure all call centers, in addition to mobile telephony base stations called strategic, placing mobile generators for those that do not have stationary group, ensuring power and cooling to the equipment. They have traveled to the island 12 emergency generators and a large capacity generator that could power of the population if necessary.

5 .- They have evolved from the work necessary to increase the current capacity of mobile communication. He has managed the adaptation of work needed to increase the communication capacity of base stations, prioritizing and Guarazoca Frontera, since at that point will focus the helm of the EMU and the forward command post of Security and Emergency WFP.

6 .- endowments have increased current spares of all technologies: access, data transport, mobile and submarine cable and emergency cable outside plant optical fiber as both copper.

7 .- They move to the island of El Hierro emergency communications elements, consisting of:

1 Transportable Mobile Unit: 140/280 able to transmit simultaneous communications in 2G and 3G or satellite radio respectively.

2 ethernet STM1 transportable radio links.

9 Units INMARSAT. Portable equipment for establishing voice communications via satellite.

6 Units ipsative. Equipment capable of establishing a bidirectional link of 2 Mbps satellite channel that allows a 2Mb ADSL plus two simultaneous voice communications.

2 Units MiniLink PHD + Ethernet. 32x2 radio link.

8 .- Transfer of a specialized team. Moves to the island of El Hierro a team that specializes in emergency communications equipment will operate to safeguard mobile and fixed communications.

This team is composed of a total of 25 people from El Hierro, Tenerife and national emergency logistics base, specializing in broadcast, radio, switching, energy, outside plant and wireless service.

Technicians carry out prevention work in previous communications to a possible volcanic event and continue their performance during the same in the unlikely event it is activated."

Hervé

4th October 2011, 12:02

CO2 ground emissions:

http://www.avcan.org/varios/guayotas/20111002ElHierro_es.jpg

randles

4th October 2011, 12:12

Hey Amzer Zo..... following your "follow the money" post :)

I cant help but be pulled back to the PIONEERING RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECT on El Hierro.

Here are some videos from DEUTSCHE WELLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX_Y4qdL8no&feature=player_embedded#!

.....
Spain: El Hierro - An Ecological Paradise | European Journal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_MXoyii-bU&feature=relmfu

"GLOBALISATION...a perspective of Cristina Ferro"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDlsfzypoA

Hervé

4th October 2011, 12:22

Hi randles, I'm gonna have to have a look at it later; not getting any dots connected right now... so, I am off for now.

Enjoy the current quiet and your day!

Guest

4th October 2011, 16:29

Good Morning Randles-

Wondering around PA this morning having a good cup of cafe' thought I would stop by and say hallo:wave: and give you and your puppy a cyber air hug:grouphug:

Wishing you a beautiful day

Nora

we are all related

randles

4th October 2011, 17:34

I shall leave you for today with the peace of mind of seeing a wonderous movement of energy to the South...

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

Red Skywalker

4th October 2011, 17:53

Telefónica ensure vital communications in El Hierro if necessary

Don't forget Ham radio amateurs when all communications are down.
In Europe there are always HAM radio amateurs listening on the 40, 20 ,17,and 15 meter bands. These bands are suitable for reaching all of Europe from the Canaries.
If more HAM radio emergency frequencies are known, we can listen more specific.
(40 meter: 7.0 - 7.2 Mhz, 20 meter: 14.0 - 14.35 Mhz, 17 meter: 18.0 18.168 Mhz, 15 meter: 21.0 - 21.45 Mhz)

HAM radio amateur,

Red Skywalker
(I don't reveal my ham radio call-sign, staying a little bit longer anonymous:painkiller:)

applejax

4th October 2011, 21:41

Hi randles,

finally got around to your thread...just praying that everyone in the island is safe and sound. :) take care

<3 applejax

Hervé

5th October 2011, 00:19

Strongest tremor for the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-05_19-20.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-05.jpg

Refresh your browser to get the latest traces

The continuously changing scale keeps compressing the earlier graphs to the bottom!
http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/energia_HIERRO.jpg

How it's looking like now from Las Puntas de La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

Refresh your browser page to get the latest graphs and picture.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Following the count of EQs as shown by the red bars (>2.0) there definitely is a subsiding of the overall activity, provided the trend continues:

http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/histograma_HIERRO_2011.jpg

As for the location of the most recent EQs (red dots), they remain in the Julan Sea of Calm:

http://www.02.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/Eventos_HIERRO_2011.jpg

Refresh your browser page to get the latest numbers and positions.

sygh

5th October 2011, 04:12

Amzer Zo,
It looks like this is just about as far south as poly plans to travel.

Randles, I don't think the wind/hydro hybrid power plant is a cause for concern, or related to the EQ associated with volcanic activity. By far this is the best most efficient alternative energy project I have seen to date. It makes me want to have an extinct volcano in my back yard.

Scientists are telling us we will hit peak oil by 2020, give or take a couple of years. You are well aware production won't halt, nor does it mean we won't have natural gas, hydro, or nuclear power, etc... but the cost will rise significantly. Best for all to be prepared for that, hype or no hype. With power, El Hierro will do well toward being able to support herself. No one should want to stop this project from coming to fruition. The oilers will get plenty of money, and for a longer period of time.

Am going to a meeting later on this evening at North Carolina State University to discuss wind power here, off our coast. We have the wind for it.

Hervé

5th October 2011, 06:02

Amzer Zo,
It looks like this is just about as far south as poly plans to travel.

[...]

It sure looks that way... now moving sideways like a kingcrab...

Pete

5th October 2011, 10:39

haven't posted for a while but have been observing thread, just want to say I'm thinking of you all and I sense a calmness now. what will be will be.
hugs Pete

Hervé

5th October 2011, 11:01

It is indeed cooling down now... until the next time.

By comparison, there is the recent (Tuesday) example of the Anak Krakatau erupting after 6000 to 7000 tremors PER DAY:

Anak Krakatau, a volcanic island in the Sunda Strait between the islands of Java and Sumatra in Indonesia, erupted on Tuesday ...

[...]

The Indonesian Volcanology and Geology Disaster Mitigation Centre reported that an estimated 6,000-7,000 volcanic earthquakes were recorded daily during the weekend and on Monday. Daily earthquake totals usually do not exceed 100-200

From: http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/anak-krakatau-child-of-krakatoa-erupts/40655.html

That gives a rough idea as to when the situation can be called critical at El Hierro; if it ever gets there.

Hervé

6th October 2011, 00:30

News of the day past from: http://www.emergenciaselhierro.org/

October 5, 2011

INFORMATION NOTE

The Canary Islands government requests that the Geological Survey assess the risk of landslides in El Hierro
• Today was held in Madrid the State Committee for Coordination of Civil Protection for Volcanic Risk

The Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana, has asked this morning in Madrid at the meeting of the State Committee for the Coordination of Civil Protection for Volcanic Risk, the Geological Survey assess the risk of landslides in El Hierro.

In this regard, the Secretary of Interior, Pilar Gallego, who chaired the meeting, instructed the Government Delegation in the Canary Islands to convene a meeting in the coming days to address this issue, which is of vital importance to the inhabitants of the Island .

As you may recall the risk of landslides is the main effect they are having earthquakes that affect El Hierro, especially since September 24 when it increased its intensity.

In this vein, the president of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Alpidio Armas, after a meeting with island, in Valverde, said "the situation has not changed and remain the preventive measures taken."

Evolution of the phenomenon

In recent days, scientists from IGN, the official organ for volcano monitoring have detected a shift of the phenomenon south of the island on the Sea of calms. Until this trend is confirmed by the scientists themselves, the Government will keep the yellow light, recommending that people watch for official communications and to implement measures for self-distributed.

The latest official summary of activity reflected the ground deformation has exceeded 35 mm and that yesterday, October 2, there were two earthquakes way, both of magnitude greater than or equal to three, one at 12:31: 11 hours and a second at 19:39:49 hours.

Hervé

6th October 2011, 00:56

From: http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/1102635.JPG&Width=508&Height=241&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0

Map where you can see the earthquake felt on Wednesday, a 2.8 magnitude

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 5/10/2011
OF THE 18 HOUR DETECTED UNTIL 11:35 CANARIA

El Hierro has only been feeling an earthquake so far

The island of El Hierro has counted up to 10:35 GMT (11:35 hours canaria) this Wednesday, October 5 A total of 18 earthquakes, one felt by the population, according to the latest update of the National Geographic Institute (IGN).

Hervé

6th October 2011, 01:06

From: http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/321(24).jpg&Width=635&Height=295,671875&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0
Alpidio Armas and Maria Carmen Morales after the meeting this Wednesday. Gelmert Finol / www.diarioelhierro.es (http://www.diarioelhierro.es).

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 10/05/2011 (16:42 pm)
LOCATION IS CAUSING THE DETACHMENTS

The council commissioned a new study on the hillside adjacent to the tunnel will remain closed

Alpidio Armas explained that there are no studies to ensure that the structure of the tunnel and the hillside's Roquille contiguous withstand an earthquake of magnitude 4,''something that could occur in the coming days.''

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.5.2011. 16:41 pm)
The president of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Alpidio Armas, Valverde said on Wednesday it has commissioned a new study to determine the status of the adjacent hillside outside Los Roquille tunnel, where landslides have occurred and has constant caused the closure of the same on other occasions before the seismic swarm was detected that affects the island as a result of volcanic activity on the island

For that reason,''and the lack of guarantees,''the tunnel will be closed to traffic, confirmed Armas.

The chairman of the council, who accompanied the Minister of Safety and Emergency Cabildo de El Hierro, Maria del Carmen Morales, was speaking to the media after the meeting in the capital of El Hierro between technicians emergency device displaced volcanic risk the island, the Spanish Geological and Mining Institute (IGME) and Vice President of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Atilano Morales and El Hierro technical institution.

EARTHQUAKE of magnitude 4

Alpidio Armas explained, in this sense that "there are no studies that lead them to ensure that the structure of the tunnel and the hillside The next Roquille withstand an earthquake of magnitude 4 on the Richter scale," something which she said - on the basis of data provided by the scientific committee, "could occur in the coming days," he said.

For its part, the Minister of Safety and Emergency Cabildo de El Hierro, Maria del Carmen Morales, found that "already has repaired the detachment occurred in previous days inside Roquille, replacing the affected area," he said.

In this regard, reports that after the rains that occurred on the island, in the day yesterday (Tuesday), "there was a detachment of material on the outside of the tunnel, which according to the magnitudes of the movements being recorded earthquake in El Hierro can not guarantee the safety of tunnels Roquille right now, "he said.

TUNNEL STUDY OF THE INTERIOR

Following the meeting held on Wednesday, has commissioned a study of the tunnel and the hillside study update contiguous to it the Spanish Geological and Mining Institute (IGME) dated July 2010, study it took about a week to be completed and which will release the strategy to use in terms of possible solutions and actions taken to resolve the closure of this important infrastructure, which causes inconvenience to many residents and businesses of this region El Hierro in the economy and daily life in the same.

Hervé

6th October 2011, 01:11

From: http://www.diarioelhierro.com/

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/1102874.JPG&Width=515&Height=406&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0
IGN map which includes the last earthquake of 3.1 degrees, felt by the population

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 10/05/2011 (21:25 pm)
S OF REGISTERED UNTIL 33 HOURS OF THIS WEDNESDAY 20:54

El Hierro recorded two earthquakes way so far

Earthquakes El Hierro felt by the population, were of 2.9 and 3.1 magnitude on the Richter scale, both located in the south of the island and 15 and 12 km deep, respectively.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.5.2011. 21:35 pm)
The island of El Hierro has counted up to 19:54 GMT (20:54 hours canaria) this Wednesday, October 5, a total of 33 earthquakes, two of them felt by the population, according to the latest update of the National Geographic Institute (IGN).

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, earthquakes felt by the population El Hierro, were of 2.9 and 3.1 magnitude on the Richter scale. The first one was detected at 16:23 GMT (17:23 hours canaria), in the south of the island and about 15 kilometers deep.

The second tremor felt by the islanders, of 3.1 magnitude on the Richter scale, occurred at 19:54 GMT (20:54 hours canaria), in the El-Mar Julan The Calm and 12 kilometers from depth.

From 1:13 GMT (2:13 hours canaria), until 19:54 GMT (20:54 hours canaria), have detected a total of 33 earthquakes, with seismic situation which is less than in days past. All earthquakes recorded so far have been between 1.6 and 3.1 magnitude.

All earthquakes were located in the El-Mar Julan of calms and between 13 and 16 kilometers deep.

Hervé

6th October 2011, 01:20

Strongest EQs for the day (3.3):

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-06_23-24.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-06.jpg

Cumulative of the energy released for the day:

10307

Locations and depth of occurence for the day:

10308

Hervé

6th October 2011, 01:30

And we still have the faceless yellow semaphore:

http://www.emergenciaselhierro.org/images/stories/Semaforo_Volcanico/gif_semaforico/Semaforo_Volcanico_title.png
http://www.emergenciaselhierro.org/images/stories/Semaforo_Volcanico/gif_semaforico/Semaf_Amarillo.png
Esté ATENTO las comunicaciones de las Autoridades de Protección Civil

Hervé

6th October 2011, 04:08

Nothing has been updated since midnight... excepted here: http://www.01.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaListadoTerremotos.do?zona=2&cantidad_dias=10

Hervé

6th October 2011, 07:25

7 hours later and still no updates???

* Edit *
Thare wa ga... 7 1/2 hours later!

:cheer2: for the maintenance team at El Hierro! :cheer2:

Hervé

6th October 2011, 08:28

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Map with the last earthquake of 2.8 degrees, recorded at 06:43 hours

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 6/10/2011
THIS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6

El Hierro 10 earthquakes recorded on Thursday, the biggest of 3.2 degrees

One of the tremors reached 3.2 degrees of magnitude while the IGN does not record it as having been felt.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/06/2011)
The island of El Hierro has counted up to 05:43 GMT (06:43 hours canaria) this Thursday, October 6 a total of 10 earthquakes, according to the latest update of the National Geographic Institute (IGN).

Earthquakes have been between 1.5 and 3.2 magnitude on the Richter scale. Indeed, the largest of them (3.2 degrees) the IGN does not record on its website that it has been felt by the population of the island. This earthquake occurred at 05:03 GMT (06:03 hours canaria) in the El-Mar Julan Las Calm, 15 miles deep.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, of the 10 earthquakes recorded so far this Thursday, the last to occur was at 06:43 hours canaria, of magnitude 2.8 degrees on the southern the island at a depth of 12 kilometers at sea. All earthquakes were located in the El-Mar Julan of calms and between 13 and 16 kilometers deep.

Hervé

6th October 2011, 08:57

Some official finally telling it like we have been saying it on this thread: :dance:

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Emilio Carreno, director of the National Seismic Network of IGN. Photo: Europa Press TV

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 6/10/2011

The National Geographic Institute does not think it will produce a volcanic eruption in El Hierro.

The director of the National Seismic Network National Geographic Institute, Emilio Carreno, explained that if there were a submarine eruption ,''people may not even know ''of it occuring.''

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/06/2011)
The National Geographic Institute has seen "no indication that there will be a volcanic eruption on the island of El Hierro after the earthquakes of recent days, but believes that it is an option that "can not be ruled out."

Speaking to Europa Press TV, the director of the National Seismic Network National Geographic Institute, Emilio Carreno, explained that if there were a rash "could be underwater," hence people may "not even be aware of its existence. "

In this vein, he added that since the National Geographic Institute in collaboration with the CSIC are studying "behavior patterns of other cases similar to El Hierro in other parts of the world."

Thus, stressed that the historical experience on the island reveals that at the end of the eighteenth century "there were a series of earthquakes felt by the population" but added that it is in doubt if at that time "there was a volcanic eruption."

Nevertheless the expert considered that in case there were a volcanic eruption in El Hierro, the consequences "would not be very worrisome" because it would be a "slow" process .

Finally, Carreno explained that currently "the level of the magnitudes of the earthquakes, does not exceed 2.8 degrees [average]," and stressed that the depth of these "remains stable."

Hervé

6th October 2011, 10:05

In this vein, he added that, since, the National Geographic Institute in collaboration with the CSIC are studying "behavior patterns of other cases similar to El Hierro in other parts of the world."

These would be Hawaii (see: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=323834&viewfull=1#post323834), the recent eruption at the Anak Krakatau (see: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=325414&viewfull=1#post325414) as well as what's happened and happening in Iceland (see: http://www.clickgreen.org.uk/news/international-news/122604-earthquake-swarm-after-officials-confirm-eruption-at-iceland-volcano-katla.html).

There is also the Nabro volcano in Ethiopia which has some similarity to the Iceland volcanic environment.

Hervé

6th October 2011, 11:26

Glad to see that Polly is taking longer siestas :sleep: between ascensions.... :P

randles

6th October 2011, 11:28

YOU are wonderful !!!
Take care my friend...
Glad to see that Polly is taking longer siestas :sleep: between ascensions.... :P

Hervé

6th October 2011, 11:34

YOU are wonderful !!!
Take care my friend...
Glad to see that Polly is taking longer siestas :sleep: between ascensions.... :P

Thanks! Same to you!

I was starting to feel weird not being watched anymore....:wave:

ViralSpiral

6th October 2011, 12:36

Where has Randles gone?

Hervé

6th October 2011, 12:49

Where has Randles gone?

Hi ViralSpiral!

I don't have an answer to your question but I can speculate that it falls under the rubrique of "C'est la vie!"

ViralSpiral

6th October 2011, 12:55

Gosh. Oh, okay then. Cheeeeeeeeerio

Amzer, thank you!

xx

Hervé

7th October 2011, 00:54

Strongest so far: 3.6 @ 02:30 am:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-07_02-03.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-07.jpg
Edit: Moved auto-updating graghs to top of next page

Hervé

7th October 2011, 01:30

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Picture of the plenary session on Thursday afternoon. Gelmert Finol / www.diarioelhierro.es (http://www.diarioelhierro.es).

Town Council - 6/10/2011

The closure of the tunnel economically asphyxiating La Frontera led to a unanimous declaration of a state of emergency.

The City of La Frontera has just declared emergency, social and economic, after the resolution was passed unanimously by all political forces of the local corporation in an extraordinary plenary session held urgently on Thursday.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.6.2011. 21:21 pm)
The City of La Frontera has just declared a social and economic emergency, after the resolution passed unanimously by all political forces of the local corporation in an extraordinary plenary session held urgently on Thursday. The proposal was submitted by the Association Herreño Independent (AHI) and was approved unanimously.

Tunnel closure of Los Roquille, main route between Valverde and Frontera, shutting down the socio-economic development lifeline of this El Hierro region, has been one of the main points discussed during the plenary session.

In this regard, the mayor of La Frontera, David Cabrera de Leon, in his speech at the plenary session said that "there is no technical report required to maintain the tunnel closed to traffic The Roquille." Cabrera de Leon added that "the road to the summit is not safe for traffic and its users," he said.

For his part, Councillor PSC-PSOE, Carlos Andres Acosta, who was called to order twice during the plenary asking that the proposal be read by the secretary of the Corporation, called for "clarity" to the government group (AHI -PP) and its mayor, while requesting that the necessary explanations to ask from the Government of the Canary Islands before the end of the tunnel.

Acosta proposed, in this sense, submit a proposal "to hold accountable the promoters of the work and the construction company of the same and are the ones who explain how structural conditions was performed in Los Roquille tunnel," said the mayor.

Also, the mayor of Frontera Union (UF), Pedro Luis Casañas, criticized the "political use" of the situation and recalled that the situation faced by the residents of La Frontera due to this closure, "is not isolated, as are repeated from the tunnel opening, landslides on the slopes, the presence of stones in the road, falling within gumitado and even the fans of the same, something usual, "criticized Casañas.

For his part, Mayor David Cabrera de Leon, said that "the important thing is that this decision has been made with the consensus of all political forces," he said.

The mayor said that "with the declaration of emergency social and economic in the municipality, is to seek the cooperation of the institutions of higher rank as the Cabildo de El Hierro, Canary Islands Government and the State, to an exceptional situation occuring in the island and has particularly affected the municipality of Frontera and the economic decline that has been generated due to the closure of tunnel Roquille ", said the mayor.

Hervé

7th October 2011, 01:42

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SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 6/10/2011
It is feared that an earthquake of magnitude 4 INDUCE DETACHMENTS

Technical studies are initiated to assess the reopening of the tunnel Roquille

The direction of the Civil Protection Plan Volcanic Risk of Canary Islands (Pevolca) wait for the results of studies of Geological and Mining Institute (IGME) and the Ministry of Public Works of the autonomous government on the structure of the tunnel, to assess the restoration of normalcy in the road.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/06/2011)
The direction of the Civil Protection Plan Volcanic Risk of Canary Islands (Pevolca) wait for the results of studies of Geological and Mining Institute (IGME) and the Ministry of Public Works of the autonomous government on the structure of the tunnel, to assess the restoration of normalcy in the road.

In this sense, through sub-delegation of the Government of Spain has requested a geotechnical study on the incidence of earthquakes in the outer slopes of Los Roquille tunnel and a technical report, which has already begun work the Department of Public Works, on the structure of the tunnel, to the Government of the Canaries in a statement.

In this sense the direction of the Civil Protection Plan will assess the information provided by these studies, which give information on the actual situation of the infrastructure and the outer slope, as well as the actions, if any, were necessary to ensure safety users.

The realization of these new reports is one of the decisions taken on Thursday at a workshop held at the Cabildo de El Hierro, also attended by the island authorities, the municipalities affected, the deputy of the Government, scientific Geological and Mining Institute and the National Geographic Institute of the Canary Islands technicians, in order to make possible the opening of this important means of communication for the Island

During the meeting, the National Geographic Institute scientists did not rule out the possibility that earthquakes can reach magnitude 4 on the Richter scale which could trigger new landslides in the area.

As you may recall, this tunnel was closed on September 27, by the direction of the Plan, the high risk of landslides in the area according to reports taken by the experts of the National Geographic Institute, Center for Scientific Research and Geological and Mining, with increasing frequency seismic intensity affecting the island of El Hierro since last July 17.

Hervé

7th October 2011, 02:01

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M ª José Blanco, next to Maria del Carmen Morales, during her last appearance before the media. Gelmert Finol / www.diarioelhierro.es (http://www.diarioelhierro.es).

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 6/10/2011
According to the IGN

The depth of earthquakes is maintained at over 10 kilometers

Migration of seismic activity up, ''would be promptly communicated to the authorities because it could be one of the indications that something might be triggered in a relatively short period.''

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/06/2011)
The earthquakes that are occurring on the island of El Hierro in the last days (between 1.5 and 3.8 magnitude on the Richter scale),have remained 'stable' so far in their depth location between 10 and 19 kilometers.

One of the clearest signs of a possible volcanic eruption of magma from depth would be the closer to the surface, the more likely to occur.

Indeed, this week, the director of the National Geographic Institute (IGN) in the Canary Islands, María José Blanco, during her appearance before the media in Valverde, said: "Migration of seismic activity up, would be communicated quickly to authorities because it could be one of the indications that something might be triggered in a relatively short period," she said.

However, Blanco said that "earthquakes located in the south of the island of El Hierro are maintaining the same rate of energy release."

As for earthquakes being felt, the director of IGN in the Canaries, María José Blanco, said that "many are not reflected as received because the population has made a seismic event as something ordinary and does not report it," she said.

However, Blanco qualified that, "although they report, often there is not enough information to make an assessment as to the number on the scale MS, which is what we use," she added.

Also, Maria Jose Blanco said that the distortion still have the same variation, "in the last week has been about 4 millimeters of deformation and, therefore, the strain accumulated since the beginning of the series, July 17, is in about 40 millimeters," she said.

The director of the Canary Islands IGN said that "earthquakes are still located at depths greater than 10 kilometers, which is what we have always said, and in the area of the sea of calm," she said.

25 EARTHQUAKES OF MORE THAN 3 DEGREES OF 1 TO 5 OCTOBER

Meanwhile, according to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, 1 to October 5 there have been a total of 25 earthquakes above magnitude 3 on the Richter scale (the largest of 3.7 degrees ) and 10 earthquakes of magnitude 3.

Hervé

7th October 2011, 02:47

Me think these officials must be reading this thread... on the other hand, it's also "common" sense. :P

Hervé

7th October 2011, 04:08

9627 events (tremors + EQs) and counting... last shown on the graphs at this moment is the 3.6

Also... this thread passed the 26,000 viewers mark... thanks for visiting! :wave:

Hervé

7th October 2011, 05:19

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Armas Alpidio to resolve the tourism situation in the island

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 6/10/2011
DUE TO EARTHQUAKES

The council works to reverse the tourist cancellations after the crisis

The president of the Cabildo, Alpidio Armas, acknowledges that there has been a decline in tourism and there have been some cancellations,''if the economic situation was bad, now is pretty bad,''he admitted.

EUROPA PRESS, Valverde (10/06/2011)
The president of the Cabildo de El Hierro, Alpidio Armas, reported Thursday that the island Corporation is trying to "reverse" the tourism situation following the earthquake-volcanic crisis endured over the past few months causing some cancellations.

Armas told Europa Press that "there has been a decline in tourism and there have been some cancellations." "If the economic situation was bad, now is pretty bad," admitted the president.

Given this, Armas has insisted he is trying to reverse the situation and promote the island. "We want people to come because nothing happens and it is beautiful. It remains with all its attractions," he argued

ViralSpiral

7th October 2011, 05:25

9627 events (tremors + EQs) and counting... last shown on the graphs at this moment is the 3.6

Also... this thread passed the 26,000 viewers mark... thanks for visiting! :wave:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/CommentCrazyGirl/Smileys%20Hello%20Wave/greet013.gif

thank you.......

Hervé

7th October 2011, 05:27

Strongest for the day: 3.8-3.7-3.2-3.6-3.4 from 22:00 to 23:00 :

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For the day:

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Edit: Moved auto-updating graphs to post below.

Hervé

7th October 2011, 08:11

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ING map which includes the last earthquake on the island
SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 7/10/2011
HOURS UNTIL 6:44 THIS FRIDAY

El Hierro counted 30 earthquakes on Friday, the largest of magnitude 3.6

The island of El Hierro has recorded up to 6:31 GMT (7:31 hours canaria), this Friday, October 7, a total of 30 earthquakes of between 1.6 and 3.6 magnitude on the Richter scale, according the last update of the National Geographic Institute (IGN).

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.7.2011. Update at 08:30 pm)
The island of El Hierro has recorded up to 6:31 GMT (7:31 hours canaria), this Friday, October 7, a total of 30 earthquakes of between 1.6 and 3.6 magnitude on the Richter scale, according the last update of the National Geographic Institute (IGN).

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) collected by DAILY IRON, two quakes have exceeded magnitude 3, but IGN has not yrt collected any testimony that it has been felt by the population.

The first tremors of 3.1 magnitude, occurred at 2:19 GMT (03:19 hours canaria) in the area of the Sea of Calm at a depth of 11 kilometers.

The second earthquake, of 3.6 magnitude on the Richter scale was detected at 02:30 GMT (03:30 hours canaria), also in the south of the island and 14 km deep. In both cases, IGN has no record that it has been felt by the population of El Hierro.

From 00:09 GMT (1:09 hours canaria), until 6:31 GMT (7:31 hours canaria), have detected a total of 30 earthquakes in the island of El Hierro, all located in the El Julan-Sea of calms and between 9 and 20 kilometers deep.

The last earthquake which includes the IGN after the latest update to its website, of 2.6 magnitude on the Richter scale, occurred at 7:34 hours canaria, in the south of the island and 15 kilometers deep.

Hervé

7th October 2011, 13:10

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Juan Carlos Carracedo

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 7/10/2011

Carracedo:''If there is no new magma injection, it will end up cooling down'' [at depth].

The renowned volcanologist estimated that the lava running through the bowels of the island of El Hierro, ''has all the earmarks of being parked without coming to the surface and cause an eruption.''

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/07/2011)
Volcanologist, Juan Carlos Carracedo, notes that "the magma is forming a mushroom head, so if there is no new injections, it will settle without breaking the cooled crust." Carracedo, speaking to the Canarias 7 newspaper, added that the magma "has all the earmarks of being parked without coming to the surface and cause an eruption."

The volcanologist said that's the conclusion he's left with after analyzing the parameters recorded by the teams from IGN doing a thorough and detailed monitoring of the seismic crisis, although the whole process, until the termination of the episode, may take months, he said.

"You can not yet speak of volcanic episode until it hits the surface," he inferred. Carracero added that "the current crisis is being managed better than in 2004 in Tenerife, but to manage better than then is very easy, because that was an absolute disaster," he said.

The director of the IGN in the Canaries, María José Blanco, as reported by Canarias 7, said the geological indicators remain "with the same patterns and identical scenarios" in the north and south of the island of El Hierro, especially in the Sea of Calm "with a branch that is close to La Restinga." "The ground deformation has not changed and is remaining around 40 millimeters," noted Blanco.

For his part, head of seismology at IGN Tenerife, Manuel Moreno, said that "the situation is practically the same, but a little more steady." Earthquakes, individually, are located south, about four kilometers west of La Restinga, "hence they are less felt by the population," he concluded

Hervé

8th October 2011, 01:58

Strongest for the day: 4.3 at 20:34:
Edit: Upgraded to 4.4 (Oct. 9)
Edit: Downgraded to 4.0 (Oct.10)

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-08_20-21.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-08.jpg

Bumped auto-updating graphs to top of next page.

Hervé

8th October 2011, 03:12

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SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 7/10/2011
EARTHQUAKE 4 or 4.5-magnitude MAY OCCUR

Scientists do not guarantee that the tunnel can support an earthquake of magnitude 4

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/07/2011)
The Minister of Safety and Emergency Cabildo de El Hierro, Maria del Carmen Morales, confirmed Friday to the DAILY IRON that the Roquille tunnel will be closed to traffic, ''because scientists do not guarantee that the structure can support an earthquake of magnitude 4 or 4.5, which could occur in the coming days,'' said the counselor.

"We do not know how much the tunnel can endure , because scientists do not know this information, we can not reopen to traffic because we could have a problem when an earthquake occurs," said the counselor.

Also, Maria del Carmen Morales added, "the other side is that the technicians who have come from IGME believe there are risks of slides now or later, when it rains; because there are many loose rocks as noted in their reports," stressed the minister and, "based on these reports, the Canary Islands Government, for safety reasons, has decided to keep the tunnel closed," she said.

Morales has imparted, however, that since the closure, all involved including the Cabildo de El Hierro have done everything possible to try to find solutions to this problem, but scientists still insist that the problem is an earthquake of a significant magnitude and we do not know what can be allowed inside the tunnel, that is not a safe way; she added that "these same movements cause landslides on the slopes, not only at La Frontera but elsewhere," she said.

Hervé

8th October 2011, 03:47

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SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 7/10/2011
SEPTEMBER 30 TO OCTOBER 6

El Hierro sum 858 earthquakes in the last week, mostly at sea

During this period, 60 events have been felt, as reported by the Directorate General of Security and Emergency Canary Islands Government.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10/07/2011)
The 24 hours volcano monitoring network monitoring of National Geographic Institute (IGN), has recorded in the last week - from September 30 to October 6 - a total of 858 earthquakes, most of them in the sea southwest of the island.

During this period, 60 events have been felt, as reported by the Directorate General of Security and Emergency Canary Islands Government. Also on Thursday, 8 earthquakes were felt in El Hierro, 5 of them of magnitude greater or equal to 3.0 on the Richter scale.

Since last July 17, IGN has registered and located 9639 earthquakes, with epicenters both north and south of the NW ridge and depths between 10 and 15 km. The number of events felt by the population is 114, with intensities II, III and IV in the EMS-98 scale.

The greater magnitude recorded reached a value of 3.8 on the Richter scale. This magmatic phenomenon is accompanied by surface deformations, which so far have not exceeded 40mm [less than 2"].

Hervé

8th October 2011, 10:17

As for landslides, some don't even need any earthquake:

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Caught on camera at North CliffS, Cornwall, Britain.

Calz

8th October 2011, 14:23

In *no* way suggesting this is about to happen ... but found this to be of interest.

Scientific paper reveals massive historic Tenerife volcano flank collapse

Last update: October 6, 2011 at 10:57 am by By Armand Vervaeck

Written by Dave Petley

Dave Petley is the Wilson Professor of Hazard and Risk in the Department of Geography at Durham University in the United Kingdom. His blog provides a commentary on landslide events occurring worldwide, including the landslides themselves, latest research, and conferences and meetings.

This post provides a brief review of a new paper that describes a newly discovered catastrophic landslide deposit in Tenerife.

One of the most intriguing but poorly understood landslide types is that of the volcanic flank collapse. In a volcanic flank collapse, the side of a volcano fails, usually catastrophically, generating a landslide. These slides can be really big – tens or even hundreds of cubic kilometers – and they can travel huge distances along the sea floor. Such failures grabbed attention a few years ago due to the potential (overstated, in my opinion) for generating a catastrophic tsunami.

However, we understand such phenomena really poorly. There are a number of reasons for this, principally that:

a. They occur rarely (globally about one in every 25 years on average), so actually recording one is a challenge

b. the remains tend to lie in a very dispersed state on the floor of the deep ocean. Fieldwork at 4 km water depth remains difficult, even if you are really good at holding your breath.

However, it is one particular aspect of these landslides that remains elusive, but is crucially important. This is the trigger of the collapse event (i.e. of the landslide itself). Numerous mechanisms have been proposed, including sea level change, climate change, hydrothermal pressure, intrusion of volcanic material, and various others. It has proven very difficult to ascertain the importance of each of these. This is an important question if we are to reliably estimate the hazard associated with future potential collapses.

In a paper published in Geology this month, Harris et al. 2011 report a very interesting find on the island of Tenerife, one of the Canary Islands. This is the remains of an ancient collapse event on the south-eastern part of Cañadas volcano. The landslide deposit, which is up to 50 metres thick, has been mapped across a large area – 90 square kilometres – and this is just the onshore component of the mass, which may extend another 50 km offshore. The deposit consists of a classic debris avalanche material, with large (typically up to 12 m long axis), shattered blocks in a highly disrupted, unsorted matrix. This is typical of a highly energetic, very large collapse event. Intriguingly, in the upper part of the deposit some fluviolacustrine (water/lake) sediments are found in the remains of hollows, indicating that in the aftermath of the landslide shallow lakes formed on the surface, presumably as a result of blockages created by the landslide. Associated with the landslide deposit are the remains of pyroclastic flows.

This is really interesting in itself, but the very well-preserved deposit allows both highly precise dating and a reconstruction of the events that occurred. The dating yields a date of about 733,000 years ago, with an error of just 3,000 years. So, the sequence of events is interpreted as being:

- An eruption event, termed the Helecho eruption started in the form of an explosive event that showered ash and then pyroclastic material across the local area;

- A dome grew on the volcano;

- This dome collapsed catastrophically, generating a landslide that travelled 17 km to the shoreline, and then probably much further in the ocean;

- Subsequent eruptions draped further pyroclastic, and then pumice, deposits on the surface of the landslide, and rainwater collected in hummocks to form small lakes;

So, in this case the volcanic flank collapse was triggered by a large, explosive volcanic eruption. Interestingly, the authors note that the landslide collapse left a gap in the rim of the caldera which subsequently channeled pyroclastic deposits to the south-east.

Of course this paper does not solve the question of what triggers volcanic flank collapses, but it is an important data point that validates one of the most likely mechanisms. It also provides a great opportunity to study these landslides in detail, which should give us a much greater insight into the dynamics of these immense mass movements.

Reference
Harris, P.D, Branney, M.J., & Storey, M. (2011). Large eruption-triggered ocean-island landslide at Tenerife: Onshore record and long-term effects on hazardous pyroclastic dispersal Geology, 39 (10), 951-954 : 10.1130/G31994.1

http://earthquake-report.com/2011/10/06/scientific-paper-reveals-massive-historic-tenerife-volcano-flank-collapse/

Hervé

8th October 2011, 15:39

Thanks Calz, good find!

Glad to see he is also of the opinion that the generation of a "megatsunami" is an exageration.

However, what bugs me is this:

[...]
So, in this case the volcanic flank collapse was triggered by a large, explosive volcanic eruption.

[...]

??????????

Of course this paper does not solve the question of what triggers volcanic flank collapses...

[...]

... For it seems that at least in the case of Tenerife, these researchers established it was an explosive eruption, whereas for El Hierro the collapses appeared to be connected to ice age endings (see post #655 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-After-tirelessly-updating-Avalon-for-weeks...it-s-official-evacuation-is-in-progress&p=323851&viewfull=1#post323851))... I guess I just answered my own question...:doh:

Hervé

8th October 2011, 16:45

Surface bulging (in millimeters):

http://www.irishweatheronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ELHIERRO_GPS_FRON-HI03.jpg

Hervé

9th October 2011, 01:22

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/1103959(1).jpg&Width=407&Height=200&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0
IGN map where you can see the area where the magnitude 4.3 quake was recorded.

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 08/10/2011 (22:22 hours. Update at 23:30 pm)
THIS IS THE GREATEST MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE REGISTERED SO FAR

El Hierro recorded an earthquake of 4.3 magnitude widely felt by the population

The quake occurred at 20:34 GMT (21:34 hours Canary Islands) on Saturday in the southwest of El Pinar at a depth of 13 kilometers. This Saturday, El Hierro has registered a total of 52 earthquakes of between 1.5 and 4.3 magnitude on the Richter scale.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES (08.10.2011. 22:22 horas.Información updated at 23:30 pm)
The National Geographic Institute (IGN) has recorded at 20:34 hours GMT (21:34 hours canaria) an earthquake of 4.3 magnitude on the Richter scale, the biggest shock of those produced so far on the island of El Iron from the seismic crisis began on 17 July. The quake was widely felt in several population centers of the island.

Although initially it was rated as a 4.4 magnitude earthquake (as collected by DAILY IRON from the IGN published data ), at the last update of the Institute's Web page, it was lowered to a 4.3 magnitude on the Richter scale and III intensity scale EMS 98.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN), as gathered by DAILY IRON and could be subject to change, the tremor occurred southwest of El Pinar and 13 kilometers deep.

In this earthquake, the largest magnitude of those produced on the island until now, there are two earthquakes felt by the population El Hierro this Saturday, October 8. The first, of 3.5 magnitude on the Richter scale, occurred at 08:00 GMT (09:00 hours canaria), also in the southwest of El Pinar and 16 kilometers deep.

This Saturday, El Hierro has registered a total of 52 earthquakes of between 1.5 and 4.3 magnitude on the Richter scale.

Hervé

9th October 2011, 02:32

9898 events (tremors + EQs) and counting... last shown on the graphs at this moment is the 4.3 (downgraded to 4.0 on Oct. 10)

Also... this thread passed the 27,000 viewers mark... thanks for visiting! :wave:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/CommentCrazyGirl/Smileys%20Hello%20Wave/greet013.gif

thank you.......

Hervé

9th October 2011, 03:05

RSOE EDIS seems out to lunch as far as the 4.3 EQ location goes:

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Hervé

9th October 2011, 03:18

Current hour:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-09_07-08.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-09.jpg

Moved graphs to top of next page

Hervé

9th October 2011, 04:00

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/1111(54).JPG&Width=512&Height=343&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0
La Restinga

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 08/10/2011 (08:54 pm)
THIS SATURDAY are already accounted for 40 EARTHQUAKES

El Hierro is still shaking and fear earthquakes above magnitude 4

Only for Friday, 7 earthquakes were felt, tremors have now moved to the southwest of El Pinar. La Restinga gets increasingly stronger shocks which are felt, as reported to DAILY IRON by locals.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.8.2011. 8:54 pm. Update at 09:20 pm)
Seismic activity on the island of El Hierro is relentless. Since the beginning of the seismic crisis, on July 17, the bowels of the Isla del Meridiano are shaking nonstop. The inhabitants of cities, like La Restinga, El Golfo or El Pinar, suffer daily earthquakes that make their homes shake , a situation that's increasingly uneasy and being looked at with the fear of a possible increase in the magnitude of earthquakes.

In the village of La Restinga alone, the inhabitants perception is that earthquakes are becoming more intense and last longer as the DAILY IRON was told by local residents that on Friday night and early hours of Saturday, October 8; the village has been incessantly shaken by earthquakes.

The magma is now located in the southwest of El Pinar, and it seems to be more on the land near the sea, where it is located so far (as seen in the maps themselves the National Geographic Institute). However, earthquakes continue to be detected at more than 10 kilometers deep.

According to the National Geographic Institute (IGN) as gathered by DAILY IRON and subject to change, for Friday, October 7, the southwest of El Pinar had a total of eight earthquakes that were felt, between 2.5 and 3.6 degrees magnitude on the Richter scale and between 11 and 17 kilometers deep.

Also, IGN recorded on Friday, earthquakes with intensities I, II and III in the EMS98 scale. These movements, which were not reported as felt, were of 3.1, 3.6, 2.6, 2.8 and 2.9 magnitude on the Richter scale.

40 EARTHQUAKES THIS SATURDAY

According to the IGN polled by DAILY IRON, until 5:47 GMT (6:47 hours canaria), the southwest of El Pinar has been shaken by 40 earthquakes of between 1.7 and 3.2 magnitude on the Richter scale and at depths ranging between 11 and 16 kilometers.

That is, the island of El Hierro is still disturbed by incessant tremors that could increase in magnitude (up to 4.5 degrees) as early as this Friday according to Cabildo de El Hierro's own Minister of Safety and Emergency , Maria del Carmen Morales.

Meanwhile, the inhabitants of El Hierro have no choice but to learn to live with earthquakes, as if they were part of their lives.

truthseekerdan

9th October 2011, 04:50

Found this very interesting new video...

dzz0quFN0wo

sygh

9th October 2011, 04:57

Hervé

9th October 2011, 05:40

Found this very interesting new video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzz0quFN0wo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzz0quFN0wo[/QUOTE)

Interesting, eh?

Dan, it would help to read the thread before posting... there are enough doom & gloom propaganda threads about this subject already going.

Anyway, the fellow talking to Deagle in your posted video is John Moore, and as stated earlier on this thread:

Hi randles

If you havent already seen it check this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31381-Heads-Up&p=324017&viewfull=1#post324017) out.

Hi Muzz!

See, this is what we are trying to disentangle and clarify here:

"Most urgent is John Moore's report from his contact that a volcano
on the Canary Islands is about to erupt in about seven to ten days.
Geologists agree that if the Cumbre Vieja volcano erupts, its resulting
landslide will surely generate a tsunami that will kill many millions
of people along the East Coast of the Americas, from Canada, down
over the United States, the Caribbean Islands, and down through
Central and South America."

John Moore is a good guy but he has got his data completely confused: the volcano that may erupt is El Hierro, not the Cumbre Vieja. With the switcheroo, there goes :bigfish: switching from El Hierro to Cumbre Vieja...

Then, even with the Cumbre Vieja, there is the matter of how fast a slide of its flank can take place... anything more than instant and there goes the doom & gloom propaganda down the drain!

Simply because the catastrophic model used wouldn't work anymore if the slide takes an hour or more to complete.

Even if Cumbre Vieja erupts as it did very recently -- without one of its flanks sliding more than 4 meters; that is, like a house, it settled better on its foundations -- a full slide is not a necessary result.

One can go down very dark rabbit holes with "ifs," but what's the actual reality?

That's what we are attempting to establish in this thread.

Always, always, always... follow the @#&%^! money:

When the original research was published in 2001 [two geologists (Day and McGuire) hypothesised that during a future eruption, the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja), with a mass of approximately 1.5 x1015 kg, could slide into the ocean. This could then potentially generate a giant wave which they termed a “megatsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatsunami)” around 650–900 m high in the region of the islands], the Spanish press and scientists were heavily critical of the way it was reported. El País noted that the research group was entirely funded by an insurance company, something entirely ignored by the British press.

". it is hypothetical and moreover improbable, and the model would not have passed the stage of an elegant theoretical exercise if the authors had not spent a week publically airing it before publishing it tomorrow in a specialised journal. Why so much interest in publicising it? The explanation perhaps lies in the fact that the research centre is funded by an insurance company, concerned with natural catastrophes ".

Thanks to Stegosaur (http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31381-Heads-Up&p=324227&viewfull=1#post324227) for discovering the article the above is excerpted from: http://www.iberianature.com/material/megatsunami.html

Said article where I found I am not alone in my assessment of Cumbre Vieja:

Latest from BBC 29 October 2004
Tidal wave threat 'over-hyped'
The risk of a landslide in the Canary Islands causing a tidal wave (tsunami) able to devastate America's east coast is vastly overstated.

That is the view of marine geologists studying ancient landslides in the area.
In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.

This contradicts previous warnings that an Isle of Man-sized chunk of land could fall off the island of La Palma into the sea, causing a mega-tsunami.
Full article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3963563.stm)

B.t.w. John Moore can be hired as a consultant on disaster prevention. He changed the title from

Global Warming: What The Government Isn't Telling You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drRMw_e9pN4

to

Planet-x what the Government is not telling you[Guest John Moore.wmv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crU9sM5QTUk

So maybe he has to make first his own mind up before he tells others what to think .... ;)

In *no* way suggesting this is about to happen ... but found this to be of interest.

Scientific paper reveals massive historic Tenerife volcano flank collapse

Last update: October 6, 2011 at 10:57 am by By Armand Vervaeck

Written by Dave Petley

Dave Petley is the Wilson Professor of Hazard and Risk in the Department of Geography at Durham University in the United Kingdom. His blog provides a commentary on landslide events occurring worldwide, including the landslides themselves, latest research, and conferences and meetings.

This post provides a brief review of a new paper that describes a newly discovered catastrophic landslide deposit in Tenerife.

One of the most intriguing but poorly understood landslide types is that of the volcanic flank collapse. In a volcanic flank collapse, the side of a volcano fails, usually catastrophically, generating a landslide. These slides can be really big – tens or even hundreds of cubic kilometers – and they can travel huge distances along the sea floor. Such failures grabbed attention a few years ago due to the potential (overstated, in my opinion) for generating a catastrophic tsunami.

[...]

Reference
Harris, P.D, Branney, M.J., & Storey, M. (2011). Large eruption-triggered ocean-island landslide at Tenerife: Onshore record and long-term effects on hazardous pyroclastic dispersal Geology, 39 (10), 951-954 : 10.1130/G31994.1

http://earthquake-report.com/2011/10/06/scientific-paper-reveals-massive-historic-tenerife-volcano-flank-collapse/

Hervé

9th October 2011, 07:09

That's quite a hiccup Polly had in between long snoozes...

The cumulative graph, as its scale keeps being confined to the alloted frame of the picture, will only show significant gaps/jumps in energy release with EQs ≥ 3.5.

Lower magnitude EQs just get telescoped together in the serpentine track.

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The jump in energy released is due to a 4.4 EQ

Hervé

9th October 2011, 07:14

Strongest for the day (3.6):

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/HORA/CHIE_2011-10-09_14-15.jpg

For the day:

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA/CHIE_2011-10-09.jpg

Latest traces for the day

The continuously changing scales keeps compressing the earlier graphs to the bottom and to the left!

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How it's looking like now from Las Puntas de La Frontera:

http://laspuntas.myipcamera.com:1024/img/snapshot.cgi?size=3&quality=1?

Latest graphs and picture.

Following the count of EQs as shown by the red bars(≥ 2.0) there definitely is a subsiding of the overall activity as the trend continues:

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As for the location of the most recent EQs (red dots) for the day, they shifted sideways towards La Restinga / El Pinar:

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Latest numbers and positions for the day.

Hervé

9th October 2011, 08:23

http://www.diarioelhierro.es/aspjpg/send_binary.asp?Path=D:\wadhoo01\/imagen/26496/4444(40).JPG&Width=590&Height=227&Interpolation=1&sharpen=0&sharpenvalue=&Rotate=0
IGN map showing where the 4.3 earthquake was felt.

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 10/09/2011 (08:17 pm)
DUE TO EARTHQUAKE OF MAGNITUDE 4.3 degrees

The Canary Islands government called for Serenity

This earthquake has not produced injury but there have been landslides on the road to La Restinga Tacorón, which has been partially blocked, and the outer slopes of Los Roquille tunnel.

ING has pointed out that data on the earthquake that occurred at 21.37 hours local time, are ''still tentative.'' The 112 has received thirteen CECOES calls from islanders of the three municipalities .

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.9.2011. 8:17 pm)
The Canary Islands government, through the leadership of the Civil Protection Plan Volcanic Risk, has appealed to the serenity of the population of El Hierro after the occurrence of an earthquake of magnitude 4.3 the largest reported so far, a mile from the coast of El Pinar, which has been felt throughout the Island and was detected at 13 km depth.

These data about the earthquake that occurred at 21.37 local time, have been confirmed by the National Geographic Institute at the address of the Plan; noting that they "are still tentative" in a statement from the Government .

This earthquake has not produced injury but there have been landslides on the road to La Restinga Tacorón, which has been partially blocked, and on the outer slopes of Los Roquille tunnel.

The 1-1-2 CECOES has received 13 calls from islanders of three municipalities.
It has recommended to the people, be attentive to official statements and take protective action as to seek shelter under strong structures or to not leave a building until the end of the ground motion.[?]

Edit: upgraded to 4.4 on IGN listing on Oct. 9

Edit: downgraded to 4.0 on IGN listing on Oct. 10

Revere

9th October 2011, 13:39

Still sending all the possitive energies I can every time I think of your Islands.

If anyone is interesting in helping on this level?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/group.php?groupid=30 The "Global Intention Group" (The GIG)

Peace,
-R-

Hervé

9th October 2011, 14:59

SEISMIC CRISIS SPECIAL - 10/09/2011 (11:45 pm)
THE VOLCANIC SEMAPHORE REMAINS AT YELLOW

The Pevolca meets Monday in El Hierro after Saturday's earthquake

With the 4.3 magnitude earthquake, only small landslides occurred on the road from La Restinga to Tacorón without causing injury.

DIARIOELHIERRO.ES, writing (10.9.2011. 11:45 am)
The direction of the Civil Protection Plan Volcanic Risk (Pevolca) will convene a meeting to discuss the evolution of the earthquakes in El Hierro. The meeting will take place in the Cabildo El Hierro, Canary Islands, as stated in a release by the Government this Sunday.

The executive reminds people that the volcanic situation at El Hierro is under a yellow light and the ground motions are typical of the volcanic preemergence phase in which we live.

Also, people should be aware of the warnings from the authorities and follow proper protective action against earthquakes.

The National Geographic Institute (IGN), official organ for volcano monitoring, has confirmed this morning to the direction of the Civil Protection Plan Volcanic Risk (Pevolca) that a quake which occurred at 21.37 pm on Saturday, had a magnitude of 4.3 , the highest recorded since last July 17.

It is reminded that this earthquake from last night did not cause personal injury only landslides on the road from La Restinga to Tacorón . The Center for Emergency and Security Coordinator of the Canary Islands did not receive any calls from the island after 12 pm.