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Luke
16th June 2010, 13:39
Many people feel something is not right with this world. There are many theories about what and why is wrong, and there is multitude of threads in the forum about those things. What worries me is that there is tendency to compartmentalize stuff on case by case basis, so often things and their effects are mixed.

What I like to share is general insight about patterns existing in our society, in attempt to explain "the big picture".

There are two main patterns that are currently in existence: pyramidal (left) and circular/spherical (right)
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Typical example of first structure is state, typical example of second one is well working community
Main difference is that pyramidal structure have well-defined levels and "up" direction; spherical system is nested - larger spheres include smaller ones and there is infinite number (or close to infinite) of outward vectors.

In "Pyramidal" society there is one "top dog" that consumes most of available energy, gathering it from all other levels. The higher the level, the more "free" energy is available, though large part of it need to be transfered "up". Base of the pyramid is where all available energy is produced, higher levels just transform it.
This is how the state works: bottom are actual taxpayers, that create wealth, which is then siphoned to upper tranches : local, regional and national, state-sponsored enterprises and unions with "politically connected bussinessmen" near the top. Wealth (energy) is usually transferred by means of looting (actual physical force or threat of using it in case one who is looted do not surrender his/hers energy) Rarer occurrence is "mooching" that is energy extortion by pity. In our current society, it's foten that victim of either scheme is brainwashed into thinking, that such surrender is for his/hers own good.
Governing principle of pyramidal pattern is entropy, with energy output dimnishing due system ineffectiveness ( lack of capital, laws barring activities or possession of materials etc.)
Most of the world as wee see it works in pyramidal fashion.

Sphere is more tricky to understand.
It starts with smallest sphere. Every next sphere contains all spheres from lower levels. Raising from one sphere to next one means raising one's own energy output (productivity, shared knowledge, acquired skills). Doing so often allows more energy flow into system (innovation, if spread, raises productivity, allowing more people to raise their own energy level, and so on). There is no top dog, leader or ruler, only ones with greater set of skills and/or knowledge (or any other energy form)

Critical to both patterns is information. In pyramidal one, there is no real communication: information is always distorted in a way that would give the source most (in terms of energy acquired OR fear lowered). In spherical pattern communication is universal, though it's contents are limited to a level it originates and levels above it, due lower levels lack of capability do decode communication. It's all in accordance with principle that communication is only possible among equals

And how this all relates to Avalon?
Existence of PTB's/PTW's depends on humans following the pyramidal pattern. It's by creation of spherical societies, their power base can be nullified.
Seeing how given event, movement or idea shapes energy gives powerful tool to discern information.

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suggested further reading:
Ken Wilber, "Integral" series -> http://www.kenwilber.com
R.A. Wilson, R. Shea "Illuminatus!" (http://www.amazon.com/Illuminatus-Trilogy-Pyramid-Golden-Leviathan/dp/0440539811/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276695516&sr=8-1) (a "leisure" novel, but many powerful ideas lie hidden inside)

Grizzom
16th June 2010, 18:32
Wilber has been categorized as New Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age) due to his emphasis on a transpersonal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpersonal) view[/URL], and more recently, as a philosopher. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber#cite_note-26)
Wilber is credited with popularizing, if not inventing, the field of Integral Thought, broadening the appeal of a "perennial philosophy" to a much wider audience. Cultural figures as varied as Bill Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton), Al Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber#cite_note-28), Deepak Chopra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepak_Chopra), and musician Billy Corgan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Corgan) have mentioned his influence.

I think Ken is on to something but he has some evil fans! ( Bill Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton), [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore"]Al Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber#cite_note-28) )

I don't hold it against him and look forward to reading his stuff.

Thanks for posting this. ;)

Luke
18th June 2010, 10:30
Amazing "coincidence" kicks in: Today I read this : What Do BP And The Banks Have In Common? The Era Of Corporate Anarchy (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-what-do-bp-and-banks-have-common-era-corporate-anarchy)
I tried to visualize energy pattern involved.
What I got:
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As always, all hidden in plain sight.
Anarchistic/ nested sphere structure sitting on top the pyramid. Base/fringe capabilities means ability to suck energy from pyramid, yet all parties involved are on common ground. No power center (contrary to soooo many theories) just bunch of "powers" constantly competing with each other, at some times some single power "point" emerge but is ground down by new emergent ones.(Say , Redshield vs Rock-a-feller)

Rules of "top" game are quite different than those "mere mortals" need to obey

The most "advanced" players secure most "output" from base. Yet there is no "nerve center" that can be destroyed. Eliminating one player just makes place for expansion of another.
All parties involved in "top game" are interested in keeping the supporting structure intact, though some more advanced ones might see benefit in broading power base.
Makes sense to me, If in twisted, crazy, "inhuman" way.

EDIT: I'd like to add I consider anarchist myself. It' simply most efficient way of human interaction. Sanctity of the contract and respect to other people involved are only prerequisites to it for work.
Yet I'm violently opposed to such scheme as "eye on top of pyramid" . Sure It's cool to be in top game, nothing to worry about, money or else. But price of those supporting such "olympus" is unacceptable. As all sacrifice, no matter the form.

Luke
7th September 2010, 19:10
First: supplement to graphs above:
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In the pyramidal pattern, there are "laws" of sort governing one's position in the pecking order.
We, mundanes, are led to believe that this has to do with money. Nope. (Monopoly) Money is for punks at our level to fight for. If you get beyond base (i.e you steal this first 0.3 billion) money are just numbers.
Real coin of the realm is "Pull".
Pull means what you can obtain making few phonecalls. It encompasses things like blackmail capability, muscle/threats, favors, gratitude, family connections, organization connections (labour unions, ACORN, AIPAC etc.), media connections, "experts", "artists", pet politicians, pet academicians and the like.

Point of "pull" is obtaining things, like laws that suits you, court verdict you like, arson in concurrent firm, delaying debt auction: all that constitutes non-mundane life. The pull one person has is in constant flow, as circumstances do change: pet politicians or experts are discredited, people die etc. So precise point on the pyramid is changing, and competition is ruthless.

Thus one of the most important thing any aristocrat is engaged with is gathering intelligence and broadening "pull" base. To gather intelligence, public events are great. They show attitude one man has against the others, who is who, vassal or lord. In many ways it resembles territorial/pack behaviour of some animals. That is why at some level foundations, charity events and the like are so important. You meet new people, you learn things about people, you see how perceptions of status are changing.

From our, mundane, standpoint, politics often does not make sense. We think those guys should do things for their own survival. Point is, they are, but in cloak and dagger world of aristocracy "survival" might not necessarily means re-election or creating stable economical environment. What matter is getting out alive from situation, where needs of people having pull collide. And vectors of pull constantly change.
And by people, I do not necessarily mean humans born on earth.

Thus is the world of aristocracy of pull.

(Originally, term was coined by Ayn Rand, as far as I know.)

wynderer
7th September 2010, 20:45
First: supplement to graphs above:
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In the pyramidal pattern, there are "laws" of sort governing one's position in the pecking order.
We, mundanes, are led to believe that this has to do with money. Nope. (Monopoly) Money is for punks at our level to fight for. If you get beyond base (i.e you steal this first 0.3 billion) money are just numbers.
Real coin of the realm is "Pull".
Pull means what you can obtain making few phonecalls. It encompasses things like blackmail capability, muscle/threats, favors, gratitude, family connections, organization connections (labour unions, ACORN, AIPAC etc.), media connections, "experts", "artists", pet politicians, pet academicians and the like.

Point of "pull" is obtaining things, like laws that suits you, court verdict you like, arson in concurrent firm, delaying debt auction: all that constitutes non-mundane life. The pull one person has is in constant flow, as circumstances do change: pet politicians or experts are discredited, people die etc. So precise point on the pyramid is changing, and competition is ruthless.

Thus one of the most important thing any aristocrat is engaged with is gathering intelligence and broadening "pull" base. To gather intelligence, public events are great. They show attitude one man has against the others, who is who, vassal or lord. In many ways it resembles territorial/pack behaviour of some animals. That is why at some level foundations, charity events and the like are so important. You meet new people, you learn things about people, you see how perceptions of status are changing.

From our, mundane, standpoint, politics often does not make sense. We think those guys should do things for their own survival. Point is, they are, but in cloak and dagger world of aristocracy "survival" might not necessarily means re-election or creating stable economical environment. What matter is getting out alive from situation, where needs of people having pull collide. And vectors of pull constantly change.
And by people, I do not necessarily mean humans born on earth.

Thus is the world of aristocracy of pull.


(Originally, term was coined by Ayn Rand, as far as I know.)

bummer -- i have so little pull, i'm probably all the way on the push side

edina
4th February 2011, 14:07
Hi Luke, thanks for linking this in the latest Charles material Q & A discussion, this social modelling structure, the sphere, and/or holographic, I think they are very interrelated, and are important to understand.

I don't know if anyone has ever noticed but the pyramid structure is actually a representation of the empty space in a torus. I'm inclined to think that when the collective consciousness understands that the pyramid is a section the larger toroid and that this larger toroid structure (aka spherical) is holographic, ergo present everywhere, and in in all structures, then the way the pyramid works in our lives completely shifts. We're still trying to make either/or choices, and pictures in our minds, I suspect it is and/and, one being a portion of the more encompassing pattern.

Gees, I imagine I'm about as clear as dark expresso right now.

Let me know what you think. I've appreciated your insights across the Avalon Forum. thanks, e