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Calz
22nd September 2011, 16:18
This is good.
Mostly about the american economy but also about the society as a whole.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOshw4kIGR4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOshw4kIGR4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRvjufH29vE&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRvjufH29vE&feature=relmfu
58andfixed
23rd September 2011, 04:21
We are the problem.
Here is more to add to the pile of coherent observations.
"A Short History of Progress"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Short_History_of_Progress
".. a non-fiction book and lecture series by Ronald Wright about societal collapse."
"The lectures were delivered as a series of five speeches, each taking place in different cities across Canada as part of the 2004 Massey Lectures which was broadcast on the CBC Radio program, Ideas."
"Where do we come from? "
"What are we?"
"Where are we going?"
"Wright uses the term "progress trap" to refer to innovations that create new problems for which the society is unable or unwilling to solve, or inadvertently create conditions that are worse than what existed before the innovation."
"Easter Island and Sumer."
"Both flourished, but collapsed as a result of resource depletion; both were able to visually see their land being eroded but were unwilling to reform."
"In the fourth chapter, "Pyramid Schemes", the fates of the Roman and Mayan civilizations are compared; both peaked with centralized empires but ended with power being diffused to their periphery as the center collapsed and ultra-conservative leader refused reformations."
"Things are moving so fast that inaction itself is one of the biggest mistakes."
- 58
ktlight
26th November 2011, 12:46
"The riots on Black Friday (again this year too) over cheap Chinese slave goods is the single best example of how incredibly dumbed down our society has bcome. The masses are now too stupid to even recognize that their country has been gutted by bankster and corporate criminals, and they are now too fat and ignorant to stand with us, the informed, to fight back. If we are screwed beyond repair, this is to a large extent why."
fOshw4kIGR4
WRvjufH29vE
Calz
26th November 2011, 13:01
Deja vu ... yet again :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30975-The-Madness-of-a-Lost-Society&highlight=madness+of+a+lost+society
Providence
26th November 2011, 14:39
What is it going to take for the people to wake up, damn!
Maia Gabrial
26th November 2011, 14:56
These videos has me wondering if there's hope for humanity....Hopefully, the majority aren't part of this. I've tried to distance myself from this kind of stuff....
The second video has me wondering what TPTW will feel about themselves when they'll be forever remembered throughout history as "The Idiot Leaders"....
Lord Sidious
26th November 2011, 15:13
What is it going to take for the people to wake up, damn!
Maybe a good boot in the nu................oops.
Love and light.
Yeah, that is what I meant. :o
Cartomancer
26th November 2011, 18:21
Great point here. In the last ten years or so as I got older I noticed all of this and it made me sick. At first I thought this was some kind of generational misunderstanding. I felt like the old codger with his pants up to his chest cussing the kids for speeding through the neighborhood. "Slow down, this is a neighborhood!"
As time went on I realized the younger generation had forgotten or never been taught all about history and what had even happened just ten years ago. None of these people stampeding through the doors of Best Buy could tell what the name of their state capitol is much less the capitol of their own country and don't care. The United States has been slowly destroyed since the murder of President Kennedy. It has been a slow intentional degradation of all of our love and energy to the point that it is now a dog eat dog world and has been designed that way. None of these idiots can pull their psyche above the next purchase of an Ipad, video game, etc. What a bunch of unthinking hominids we have become. They have turned our economy into a place where the only job you can get is in the service sector. We are all supposed to make a living serving each other food and cleaning each others carpets w/out producing any real tangible goods. At the same time our educational system has intentioanalyy been degraded to the point where no one knows or cares what is going on.
The people who engineered all this and continue to support it need to be sent to re-education camps and rehabilitated to human beings.
I said this four years ago:
We all need to stop buying anything but food. All of this crap would change within two months if we all just refused to play. Use the barter system and grow your own food. Develop a local trade network with all your friends etc.
Deborah (ahamkara)
26th November 2011, 23:29
It is easy to judge - but I think that selfish, boorish behavior has always been with us. With the proliferation of technology, we simply have more video "evidence". This is not anything exceptionally sinister. In the Middle Ages, whole towns and villages turned out to watch and revel in bloody corporal punishments and small children were brought to observe "witches" being burned at the stake. ...there will always be examples of ignorant, deluded people who are easily influenced and controled.
jcocks
27th November 2011, 07:52
...there will always be examples of ignorant, deluded people who are easily influenced and controled.
And you don't exactly have to go looking too far either :( Sometimes I wonder if said "examples" are actually the majority of people, rather than being in the minority, like I would like to believe.....
Cidersomerset
27th November 2011, 10:33
Thanks Calz two precise vids....We know this has been set up . Western society has been set up to fail for the last 30 years . Corporate industry sees no borders
they were vary open about it years ago....By moving industry to ever cheaper labour third world countries , and creating false consumer markets based on credit
it was obvious it was set up to fail.....
Its the modern equivalent of the 'rape' of Africa in the 19/20th centuries and still going on today . Now I have no problem of the redistribution of wealth around the
world to bring the poorer countries up to a level enjoyed here in west and other places. But the problem is it is corporate led, The criminal 5% who own 95%
of the worlds wealth....This cannot be sustained and somethig must give , the trouble the elite are always one step ahead and are still making fortunes by
buying up assets to proffit from later...Its so obvious and our polititions know it , but we seem to be frozen like rabbits in a car headlights.....Panicked frightened
but not daring to move....
http://ih0.redbubble.net/work.371315.6.flat,550x550,075,f.rabbit-in-your-headlights-card.jpg
Of coure many polititions come from the elite or are beholdent to them especially in the US thru the corporate lobby system and do their bidding by passing legislation bennificial to one group or another as payback for electoral backing.So when they leave politics or lose their seat, there is always nice jobs for the boys and now girls in the corporate hierachy ......
Calz
27th November 2011, 10:45
but we seem to be frozen like rabbits in a car headlights.....Panicked frightened
but not daring to move....
Looks can be deceiving.
As we speak Fulford's ninja bunnies are being deployed ...
11587
Cidersomerset
27th November 2011, 10:57
Brilliant ...have look on the Hobbit thread page two , Onawah put up a housing project to build your own Hobbit hole for $5000 dollars
Would cure the world housing problems all over the world with modifacations.......IF Our Rulers Were Human !!!!....
http://ciracar.com/build-a-house-for-less-than-5000
BUNNY POWER !!!!
xLX_6WwXFUI
Nothing lasts forever we must change the rampant consumerism allowed to run amok.......
Calz
27th November 2011, 11:12
.......IF Our Rulers Were Human !!!!....
BUNNY POWER !!!!
Therein lies the rub ...
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jorr lundstrom
27th November 2011, 11:53
I think I know how Black Elk felt when he had his great vision and realized that the
Indian nation had to go down and they all had to walk the Black road. If anyone of
us are alive in five years we must have witnessed scenes we couldnt imagine in our
wildest imaginations. Good luck all humans and get ready for the bumpiest ride ever.
Take care of your near and dear.
Cidersomerset
27th November 2011, 12:28
I was'nt going there but you have tempted .......'RABBIT HOOD '
Will save us from these blue blooded..Varments....
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Silly I know...Steve
Cidersomerset
27th November 2011, 13:15
Thanks Jorr just listened to part one & two....paints a vivid picture of plains Indian life,Black elks vision as a 9 year old boy on the brink of death, the hunt and how it brought life to the people and the respect given to the weak in the society, in the days of plenty, before another apocolypse hit a way of life!! ...The courtship ritual story is funny , the lovesick bucks spent many hours sneaking around camp trying to capture the heart of the girl he loves, the same marriage courtship nonsence is the same in most cultures. eventually he tried to get his love by kidknapping her, which failed miserably.Plan B was to be painted up as'''''' .........Part 3 vivid accounts of the battles of the RoseBudd and Battle of the Little Big Horn....From various young braves who fought in the battles..
EQ8eQCKiewA
Limor Wolf
27th November 2011, 15:00
About a year ago I wrote an article expressing this 'problematics' of the 'madness of lost society( it was published by the Israeli website - "different truth project" (http://www.emetaheret.org.il/2011/01/03/%D7%93%D7%99%D7%96%D7%9C-%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%AA%D7%94%D7%99%D7%95-%D7%98%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9D/) ,and was directed to the public :
"What is required to take potential creatures like us,aka people,With an active mind and a lot more than that - an ability for adjudication and consideration, with a thorough analysis capability,a Comprehension,an intuitive ability and within it our power to invent and to create ...
And turn us into robots who assiduously fill our role?
And what is our role, you ask? Well, among other things, to provide hours of productive work,to inflate the pockets of corporate banks and pharmaceutical companies,to pay an exaggerated taxes,to raise the next robot generation,to participate in wars and so on.
Sometimes it seems so much easier and convenient to direct the population to right or left or in any direction that they wish to lead us,When the population is in a state of heavy drowsiness and therefore, how shall we say, the discretion and choices when it comes to our lives are not to the best of our judgment.
And how convenient it is to let someone else decide ...
Stupefying surrounds us from every direction.
We get messages through television, commercials and music,they show us how to 'straighten with the line' and not to be too much of an independent thinkers.
In schools,colleges and academia,yes, but only on the condition that we do not break boundaries or lines of thought that are 'ain't accaptable'.
If we carefully examine what is happening around us,we will find that over time there was another leap forward,and we are reinforced by more and more messages that encourage our human nature to be small, narrow and separated other than strong, blooming and united.
Take a Look, for example,at this TV advertisment, at least it is telling us the truth ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m71m-LBqFQ&feature=player_embedded#!
If you ask almost any citizen on the globe, they will tell you that,yes, social corruption is growing, and human freedom is shrinking, the governments are losing touch with the citizen...
But how come that not so many of us pay attention to another social phenomenon
that would lead us to very unpleasant places - the phenomenon wich is known as 'Automatic pilot'.
We watch what is put for us on television,eat what is sold to us on supermarkets,dress as we are dictated,recite what we hear,and think the way we are guided to.
We are human sheep.
It is convenient for us that someone else decides.
But,is it truley?
It seems as if they want to distract us from any original capacity of an independent and diverse mind,from everything that might be useful and can potentialy free us from a life of slavery and survival.
And we ... we are cooperating.
If you still believe that Mind control is just a kind of 'conspiracy theory' or a random social conditioning,please watch the following interview:
Yuri Bezmenov,a former KGB agent, will be happy to tell you how it is possible to change thought forms and behaviors of people depending on the desired outcome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk&feature=player_embedded
"But brainwashing occur elsewhere,in Russia,the United States,certainly not in our country (Israel) ...? "
The world is global ...
Let's take a look around us and listen to what most of the people like to talk about,what are the things that are important or interesting to us ..
What type of messagas do we get through advertisments,that we dont really pay attention to.
A small example of this is the existing display at the enterence of the 'duty free' in Tel -aviv airport (as of to this time of writing) of the jeans company 'Diesel' :
http://art8amby.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/diesel-be-stupid-fw-2010-mikus-lasmanis.jpg?w=400&h=300 http://favim.com/mini/201105/21/balls-be-stupid-camera-campain-cool-diesel-51737.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeHZtPSNfwI&feature=player_embedded
BE STUPID.
IT IS COOL TO BE STUPID
We Let others do the work for us, the work wich is our life,And it is very noticeable where it all goes, the nose is going towards the ground and not towards the sky.
Would it not be desirable,at some point,that we will take hold of the wheel in our hands and tilt its direction? Since our true nature as individuals and as humanity is to evolve and not to regress.
Confucius,a wise man said:
"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. "
The question is, which of the three we will chose to walk and what will be at the end of it?"
~*&^~*&
Limor
Cidersomerset
27th November 2011, 18:37
just finished listening to all six parts of Black Elks speaks and it is a fascinating history of the sioux and their tragic mistreatment by greedy misguided so called
civilised people..There were good and bad on both sides and the plains Indian way of life was about to come to a sad end from The Little big Horn to Wounded knee..
Black Elks had many adventures and left this account to balance the many white stories of pioneers and savage redskins ....Much misunderstanding in a clash of cultures
that were miles apart. The Wa****o's Europeans wanted to buy land from the native people , who did not reconise the selling of the 'sacred Hoop' of the world,,,,
very interresting to hear his story...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E-q0qgLXsMs/TooQ1azKB7I/AAAAAAAABD8/NcZspU6NooA/s1600/BlackElk.jpg
http://about.spyritual.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/David-Icke-192_685335e.jpg
Thats strange the computor is cencoring Wa****o's must mean something bad in Souix...Steve
Davy
27th November 2011, 19:01
This is an excellent example of really how asleep and ignorant the masses are,,,, Only when pure hell breaks loose will some wake up and even then some are so brainwashed and clueless it seems nothing may help! Sad indeed!! When I seem to Have a glimmering Peace of hope in Humanity, I look at how self centered our society really is! The reality of the greed of America is Quite Shocking and Sickening!
Limor Wolf
28th November 2011, 00:07
I agree Davy,I have never felt part of our society when it came to shopping,celebreties,passion for objects or a special fondness for brands..But it was not brought into my mind the deliberate depth of the mind control and brainwashing that we experience as society.Therefore,I try and keep a little hope that an eye opening for the public will occure,at least for some .The Pioneers pulls the rest. At least,lets hope so...
Maia Gabrial
28th November 2011, 00:08
It is easy to judge - but I think that selfish, boorish behavior has always been with us. With the proliferation of technology, we simply have more video "evidence". This is not anything exceptionally sinister. In the Middle Ages, whole towns and villages turned out to watch and revel in bloody corporal punishments and small children were brought to observe "witches" being burned at the stake. ...there will always be examples of ignorant, deluded people who are easily influenced and controled.
You know Ahamkara, I wondered the same thing about people relishing all the bloody hangings/beheadings back in the olden days. They'd make a picnic of it....Or cheer as if it were the best thing to happen in the world....So gross.
In "The Illuminati Formula for Creating Undetectable Mindcontrolled Slaves" there was a link in there called "The New World Order" that talked about guillotines being transported by the Military around the country. Now, what do you think that might be about since none of us are supposed to know about them? After learning about this, I saw visions of Americans acting just like the French did during the beheadings of Marie Antoinette and other aristocrats....I forget what that time period was called, but I'm sure many will know what I'm referring to...Everything that's happening now seems to mirror that time period....Is this the madness TPTW want for us? God, I hope not....
Ellisa
28th November 2011, 00:41
Mass panic has always ben part of human nature. Slick 'rulers ' have always used moments of mass celebration or outrage as a means to manipulate. The Romans used massive displays at their amphitheatres and massive parades to celebrate victories etc. Marie Antoinette knew what she was doing when she suggested the populace should eat cake, however the populace unleashed a mass event of their own. The recent riots in England were an example of mass panicky behaviour as well as protest and just plain looting. Our 'rulers' know what we must be kept quiet and happy, with controlled outbreaks allowed with state-sanctioned celebrations such as New Year's Eve, Sports finals etc allowing some harmless noise and celebration and some harmless bonding with each other in a safe place. I think the sales fall into this category. Plans will be made, positions staked out and the bargains will be hunted.
The frenzy at the sales is a calculated event in a society such as the US where the prize is cheap enough for all to aspire to own it. Also if a purchase requires some conflict so much the better. This latter is what is so wrong.
No one should feel the need to own so something so desperately that they are willing to hurt another person to buy it. I bet the TV and news were full of ads for "things" to buy which will make you feel good, and happy to be alive again. But it's not new--- just that now we see it straight away on the news that night. However in our capitalistic societies we really cannot blame people who stampede into a store to try to purchase their own piece of fulfilment.
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