"most executions ever"

[HORIZONS]

Just think what this mindset in the White House would do :wacko:


Rick Perry holds the record for most executions ever for a governor, presiding over 235 executions. At NBC’s Republican presidential debate in early September, he said he "never struggled" with the thought of an innocent person being executed in Texas.

Perry vetoed a bill that would have exonerated the mentally retarded and juveniles from the death penalty. The governor also fought with the Bush Administration on the case of 51 Mexicans placed on death row, and battled with the Obama cabinet and Mexican officials over the status of Humberto Leal Jr., before signing off on his execution in early July.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/16/supreme-court-halts-execution-of-texas-inmate/

[Davidallany]

It's a curse to be asleep while having power over who lives and dies.

[Ellisa]

This is barbarism and nothing else. It is wrong to kill, even if the executed person is him/herself a killer. Quite apart from the possibility of a mistake the practice of legally killing people is primitive and degrading. In this particular case the appallingly long wait of the person designated to be killed is really a bizarre form of torture. And then there are all the truly awful details of the sort of ceremony that has now grown up around an execution- such as The Last Meal, The Last Words etc. What do we become as the result of such barbaric actions? It really would make more sense to hire the local football stadium and invite the 'good' people to come and watch the death. Or at least put it on Prime Time TV.

As you may imagine I am against the death penalty and I don't think it is ever right to kill!

[shadowstalker]

This is barbarism and nothing else. It is wrong to kill, even if the executed person is him/herself a killer. Quite apart from the possibility of a mistake the practice of legally killing people is primitive and degrading. In this particular case the appallingly long wait of the person designated to be killed is really a bizarre form of torture. And then there is all the truly awful details of the ceremony that has now grown up around an execution- such as The Last Meal, The Last Words etc. What do we become as the result of such barbaric actions? It really would make more sense to hire the local football stadium and invite the 'good' people to come and watch the death. Or at least put it on Prime Time TV.

As you may imagine I am against the death penalty and I don't think it is ever right to kill!
I Agree...
the death penalty certainly doesn't slow down a killer, and it certainly isn't a true deterrent.

[HORIZONS]

This is barbarism and nothing else. It is wrong to kill, even if the executed person is him/herself a killer. Quite apart from the possibility of a mistake the practice of legally killing people is primitive and degrading. In this particular case the appallingly long wait of the person designated to be killed is really a bizarre form of torture. And then there are all the truly awful details of the sort of ceremony that has now grown up around an execution- such as The Last Meal, The Last Words etc. What do we become as the result of such barbaric actions? It really would make more sense to hire the local football stadium and invite the 'good' people to come and watch the death. Or at least put it on Prime Time TV.

As you may imagine I am against the death penalty and I don't think it is ever right to kill!

Yes Ellisa, I agree with you - this belief from the Old Testament Jewish Law of "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth" is a fire that destroys life, and as you say is barbaric and needs to be eliminated from our society.

[NancyV]

The death penalty, if it were fast and if those who receive it are truly guilty of their crimes, is more compassionate than a life sentence in prison, in my opinion. Since there is no death of the soul, a person who receives the death penalty simply goes on to whatever experiences their vibrational frequency leads them to after physical death. If I really wanted someone to suffer I would sentence them to life in prison because I think it is much more cruel than death.

I did think the execution in Georgia yesterday of Troy Davis should have been postponed. There were too many questions about his possible innocence and too many changes with witnesses recanting since his conviction. That trial may not have been handled correctly. I don't know if he was guilty or not but I think there is a chance he was not guilty. At least now he is in an exciting place and having whatever adventures his soul is drawn to......and he is more free.

As you can tell I am pro death penalty. Killing is a fact of life and always has been. All animals, including human animals, kill to survive, whether it is their own or another species. We kill in defense, in offense and for food. That's not going to change any time soon here on the 3D earth plane.

[fifi]

A few days ago I saw this on CNN, and this phrase caught my attention - "A SHAPE-SHIFTING POLITICAL ANIMAL" - is Perry a reptilian?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-ESoHdAB5k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-ESoHdAB5k

[panopticon]

This is barbarism and nothing else. It is wrong to kill, even if the executed person is him/herself a killer. Quite apart from the possibility of a mistake the practice of legally killing people is primitive and degrading. In this particular case the appallingly long wait of the person designated to be killed is really a bizarre form of torture. And then there are all the truly awful details of the sort of ceremony that has now grown up around an execution- such as The Last Meal, The Last Words etc. What do we become as the result of such barbaric actions? It really would make more sense to hire the local football stadium and invite the 'good' people to come and watch the death. Or at least put it on Prime Time TV.
As you may imagine I am against the death penalty and I don't think it is ever right to kill!

G'day Ellisa,

I agree with you. I don't view that the taking of another's life, the ultimate in ritualised societal dominance on the individual, is either positive or good. As shadowstalker points out it is not an effective deterrent and this can be easily seen in Australian murder rate statistics over the last century. Logic would say that since capital punishment is a deterrence to murder then since its abolition the rate would have increased. This is not the case (http://www.aic.gov.au/en/publications/current%20series/tandi/1-20/tandi03/view%20paper.aspx). I view no matter how it is parcelled, the taking of a life is always murder.

I'm glad to live in a country that does not have a murder sentence.

I'm sorry to disagree with you on this one NancyV.
This form of sanction does nothing for the individuals concerned beyond retribution (which is "an eye for an eye" rhetoric).
To say that the individual will "go to a better place" creates a scary precedent.
This means that it is possible to say that all those poor people, sick people (however they are defined and by whom), elderly, or any group looked at, could be executed merely because the dominant culture disagrees with their individual assertions as to health, innocence, etc., because they will go to a better place (which is scarily close to "we know what's best for them").
In other words when an individuals rights are removed we should all be careful in reviewing why this has been done and what it might mean in years to come (think 7thh generation). In the taking of a life, being the ultimate sanction, I would say this applies doubly.

Finally I would say that Winston Churchill made an excellent point when he said that the civilisation of a society can be judged by the way it treats its prisoners. Couldn't agree more.

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

Sources:
http://www.aic.gov.au/
http://www.aic.gov.au/en/publications/current%20series/tandi/1-20/tandi03/view%20paper.aspx

[Ellisa]

NancyV said of Troy Davis----"At least now he is in an exciting place and having whatever adventures his soul is drawn to......and he is more free."

Is it possible that if you believe that there is life after death it is possible to be more supportive of the death penalty?

[Unified Serenity]

Ann Coulter has a very interesting column now on the issue of the death penalty and the facts regarding the recent completion of that sentence on a man convicted of shooting a police officer in cold blood. She shows the lies the media tells about the case. The interesting facts in it, and does it all in a fairly concise commentary.

COP-KILLER IS MEDIA'S LATEST BABY SEAL
(http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-09-21.html)

"That's what Troy Davis did in August 1989. Davis is the media's current baby seal of death row.

After a two-week trial with 34 witnesses for the state and six witnesses for the defense, the jury of seven blacks and five whites took less than two hours to convict Davis of Officer Mark MacPhail's murder, as well as various other crimes. Two days later, the jury sentenced Davis to death. "

read article for whole commentary

[Lord Sidious]

The reason that most governments, especially the states and commonwealth of australia don't execute prisoners anymore and the ones that do keep them on death row so long, is that they are so valuable.
They are assets to be traded as securities.
You can buy the prisoner bonds through the us district court.
I had the forms once, but due to a pc crash, I lost em.

[RMorgan]

235 assassinations as a governor...Imagine if this guy becomes president...

[ktlight]

This is barbarism and nothing else. It is wrong to kill, even if the executed person is him/herself a killer. Quite apart from the possibility of a mistake the practice of legally killing people is primitive and degrading. In this particular case the appallingly long wait of the person designated to be killed is really a bizarre form of torture. And then there is all the truly awful details of the ceremony that has now grown up around an execution- such as The Last Meal, The Last Words etc. What do we become as the result of such barbaric actions? It really would make more sense to hire the local football stadium and invite the 'good' people to come and watch the death. Or at least put it on Prime Time TV.

As you may imagine I am against the death penalty and I don't think it is ever right to kill!
I Agree...
the death penalty certainly doesn't slow down a killer, and it certainly isn't a true deterrent.

And it deprives him/her, if the person is truly guilty of the crime, to realise the wrong that has been done, which is the beginning of coming to terms with it.

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This is barbarism and nothing else. It is wrong to kill, even if the executed person is him/herself a killer. Quite apart from the possibility of a mistake the practice of legally killing people is primitive and degrading. In this particular case the appallingly long wait of the person designated to be killed is really a bizarre form of torture. And then there are all the truly awful details of the sort of ceremony that has now grown up around an execution- such as The Last Meal, The Last Words etc. What do we become as the result of such barbaric actions? It really would make more sense to hire the local football stadium and invite the 'good' people to come and watch the death. Or at least put it on Prime Time TV.

As you may imagine I am against the death penalty and I don't think it is ever right to kill!

Yes Ellisa, I agree with you - this belief from the Old Testament Jewish Law of "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth" is a fire that destroys life, and as you say is barbaric and needs to be eliminated from our society.

And eliminated from the culture/mindset.

[ktlight]

The reason that most governments, especially the states and commonwealth of australia don't execute prisoners anymore and the ones that do keep them on death row so long, is that they are so valuable.
They are assets to be traded as securities.
You can buy the prisoner bonds through the us district court.
I had the forms once, but due to a pc crash, I lost em.

I found this on the internet.

"the investor is, the 144 holders. They have a rule called the 144 holder. The rule is that they can't sell private investment securities that are not registered. The rule prohibits them from selling the prison bonds. They have to wait 6 months before they can sell a certain quantity of private securities without being registered, selling them as private securities. Basically there are 8 people on the board of directors of CCA (Corrections Corporation of America)-Joseph E. Russell, the top holder, and John M Ferguson. Russell owns 64,000 shares of CCA stock which is worth about $70 million. Ferguson owns 34,000 shares valued at about $37 million."

source http://educate-yourself.org/cn/prisonersfundamerica03oct04.shtml

[Lord Sidious]

The reason that most governments, especially the states and commonwealth of australia don't execute prisoners anymore and the ones that do keep them on death row so long, is that they are so valuable.
They are assets to be traded as securities.
You can buy the prisoner bonds through the us district court.
I had the forms once, but due to a pc crash, I lost em.

I found this on the internet.

"the investor is, the 144 holders. They have a rule called the 144 holder. The rule is that they can't sell private investment securities that are not registered. The rule prohibits them from selling the prison bonds. They have to wait 6 months before they can sell a certain quantity of private securities without being registered, selling them as private securities. Basically there are 8 people on the board of directors of CCA (Corrections Corporation of America)-Joseph E. Russell, the top holder, and John M Ferguson. Russell owns 64,000 shares of CCA stock which is worth about $70 million. Ferguson owns 34,000 shares valued at about $37 million."

source http://educate-yourself.org/cn/prisonersfundamerica03oct04.shtml

That is what I am talking about, yeah.

[ceetee9]

Just think what this mindset in the White House would do :wacko:


Rick Perry holds the record for most executions ever for a governor, presiding over 235 executions. At NBC’s Republican presidential debate in early September, he said he "never struggled" with the thought of an innocent person being executed in Texas.

Perry vetoed a bill that would have exonerated the mentally retarded and juveniles from the death penalty. The governor also fought with the Bush Administration on the case of 51 Mexicans placed on death row, and battled with the Obama cabinet and Mexican officials over the status of Humberto Leal Jr., before signing off on his execution in early July.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/16/supreme-court-halts-execution-of-texas-inmate/
What I don't understand is how anyone can look at someone like Rick Perry, who is against abortions--ostensibly because they "believe in the sanctity of life," but then have no problem killing people in prison as legalized state-sanctioned murder, or in foreign countries based on nothing more than the government telling them it is "their patriotic duty" to do so. This ability for a person to justify murder in some cases and not in others when they claim to believe in the sanctity of life--particularly when it is allegedly based on strict religious beliefs--boggles the mind. To me Mr. Perry, and those of his ilk, are hypocrites of the worst kind, so is it really so surprising that he is being groomed to be the next President of the United States?

[panopticon]

G'day all,

I agree with Lord Sidious in that one reason governments increase prison populations could be the "prisoner bonds", much as the use of life insurance (sometime referred to as "dead peasant insurance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate-owned_life_insurance)") is used by employers on their employees (including the military on its service personnel).

As we all well know, there are always multiple layers to the "Money, Control, Power" dynamics.

In one respect there is the social control dynamic, which I was referring to above, that enforces and normalises the system of control while reducing individual rights.
This normalising (or socialisation) modifies the way people see the world and relate to it after being "educated" by the various instruments (parents, media, schools, peer group, work, language, religion, etc).

As Lord Sidious points out the "Money" that can be made by creating a form of credit derivative bond is an important factor. This could be easily justified to the average middle class family as a means of financing the prison system. Of course this is the "spin" used to keep everyone "looking over there" while prison size increases and financial returns increase.

Then there is the "Power" that involves the use and control of the usual form of legitimate coercion exercised by the State on its citizens: The "legal" system (Police, Judiciary and "Corrections").

There are heaps of other layers like:

The spiritual/esoteric rituals that control and incarceration can produce.
The ritualised murder of inmates (as stated above "last words", "last meal", the count down to execution, hope of the call for release amongst a mess of others).
The cattle control of inmates, and staff, gives power to the jailing group and produces a type of jail culture (in many instances based on subservience).

There are so many and I was only responding to the obvious social control issues that capital punishment re-enforces.

Here is a page (http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/11/07/news/how-illuminati-are-trading-prisoners-like-cattle/) that might be of interest on prisoner bonds and a link to check the Court Case/CUSIP and trading info. To quote:

What they are doing is selling stock in the prison system by selling the prisoners’ accounts as securities through the securities exchange. They are making huge amounts of money off it. They privatize the prisoners’ accounts and bring all these investors in and what they are doing is underwriting all these prisoner’s accounts (bonds). This is after the surety company guarantees the bonds. Then they are underwritten through an investment bank or banker. Then they are put out on the market and resold to the public.

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate-owned_life_insurance
http://deadpeasantinsurance.com/
http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/11/07/news/how-illuminati-are-trading-prisoners-like-cattle/

[Lord Sidious]

Thanks for the input, see you on Gallifrey later on.

[firstlook]

The death penalty, if it were fast and if those who receive it are truly guilty of their crimes, is more compassionate than a life sentence in prison, in my opinion. Since there is no death of the soul, a person who receives the death penalty simply goes on to whatever experiences their vibrational frequency leads them to after physical death. If I really wanted someone to suffer I would sentence them to life in prison because I think it is much more cruel than death.

I did think the execution in Georgia yesterday of Troy Davis should have been postponed. There were too many questions about his possible innocence and too many changes with witnesses recanting since his conviction. That trial may not have been handled correctly. I don't know if he was guilty or not but I think there is a chance he was not guilty. At least now he is in an exciting place and having whatever adventures his soul is drawn to......and he is more free.

As you can tell I am pro death penalty. Killing is a fact of life and always has been. All animals, including human animals, kill to survive, whether it is their own or another species. We kill in defense, in offense and for food. That's not going to change any time soon here on the 3D earth plane.

Fear. Thats why the death penalty exists. People know its not a deterrent but it helps people cope with the fear. Revenge isn't actually about facts or even effectiveness. Its really just for perception of feeling safe. Your right when you say People will do this. Look at Religion.

As for its more compassionate....well that really depends on of the convicted wants to be executed or not. Right?

All in All The Death Penalty is an exercise in giving individual power away to outside ideals and problems that feed a primal need of solidarity of function.

Peace :)

[firstlook]

The reason that most governments, especially the states and commonwealth of australia don't execute prisoners anymore and the ones that do keep them on death row so long, is that they are so valuable.
They are assets to be traded as securities.
You can buy the prisoner bonds through the us district court.
I had the forms once, but due to a pc crash, I lost em.

This is also a big issue. Prisons for profits and their push for more laws based on nothing but money is something people need to come to grips with. At least in my country.

[Lord Sidious]

The reason that most governments, especially the states and commonwealth of australia don't execute prisoners anymore and the ones that do keep them on death row so long, is that they are so valuable.
They are assets to be traded as securities.
You can buy the prisoner bonds through the us district court.
I had the forms once, but due to a pc crash, I lost em.

This is also a big issue. Prisons for profits and their push for more laws based on nothing but money is something people need to come to grips with. At least in my country.

Not just in your corporation, in all of the western corporations.

[firstlook]

The reason that most governments, especially the states and commonwealth of australia don't execute prisoners anymore and the ones that do keep them on death row so long, is that they are so valuable.
They are assets to be traded as securities.
You can buy the prisoner bonds through the us district court.
I had the forms once, but due to a pc crash, I lost em.

This is also a big issue. Prisons for profits and their push for more laws based on nothing but money is something people need to come to grips with. At least in my country.

Not just in your corporation, in all of the western corporations.

I haven't researched it but I would imagine that is indeed the case.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

[HORIZONS]

Texas drops special last meal for death row inmates


The hefty last meal ordered but not eaten by an executed Texas inmate brought a complaint from a state senator and the end Thursday to the practice of special menus.
Sen. John Whitmire, chairman of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, wrote Thursday that he opposed the practice of providing a last meal of choice to the condemned.
"It is extremely inappropriate to give a person sentenced to death such a privilege. One which the perpetrator did not provide to their victim," Whitmire wrote.
The Democrat, who represents Houston and parts of north Harris County, said "enough is enough" after Lawrence Russell Brewer ordered two chicken fried steaks smothered in gravy with sliced onions, a triple-meat bacon cheeseburger, a cheese omelet with other ingredients, a large bowl of fried okra with ketchup, three fajitas, a pint of Blue Bell ice cream and a pound of barbecue with a half-loaf of white bread.
The meal request also included a slab of peanut butter fudge with crushed peanuts, a pizza and three root beers. Brewer declined to eat the last meal Wednesday, said Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesman Jason Clark.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/22/justice/texas-last-meal/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[Mark]

Perry is being used to scare the bejesus out of the political center and left. I think he's being put forth to polarize the field and that Jeb Bush is going to be trotted out before the public sometime early next year as a more moderate candidate. Bush Dynasty Part III. Can you imagine??

[Unified Serenity]

Perry is being used to scare the bejesus out of the political center and left. I think he's being put forth to polarize the field and that Jeb Bush is going to be trotted out before the public sometime early next year as a more moderate candidate. Bush Dynasty Part III. Can you imagine??

That is a horrendous idea and really makes me almost forget that I am trying to get over my intense dislike of everything Bush clan. Jeb is a snake.

[meeradas]

Bush Dynasty Part III. Can you imagine??

OMG. What an effin' nightmare.
No, i won't.

[Guest]

i cannot imagine him in office and all i can say is here we go again. thank you for the thread

Nora

we are all related

[NancyV]

What I don't understand is how anyone can look at someone like Rick Perry, who is against abortions--ostensibly because they "believe in the sanctity of life," but then have no problem killing people in prison as legalized state-sanctioned murder, or in foreign countries based on nothing more than the government telling them it is "their patriotic duty" to do so. This ability for a person to justify murder in some cases and not in others when they claim to believe in the sanctity of life--particularly when it is allegedly based on strict religious beliefs--boggles the mind. To me Mr. Perry, and those of his ilk, are hypocrites of the worst kind, so is it really so surprising that he is being groomed to be the next President of the United States?
Many conservatives who believe in the "sanctity of life" do not find it at all hypocritical to kill certain dangerous people for the greater good of society, to protect others from their evil. Yet they still believe that killing a fetus is murder because a fetus has committed no violent crime.

I find it more hypocritical that many who are against the death penalty often have no hesitation or qualms about killing an unborn baby. Then they have the gall to criticize those who believe in the death penalty for evil acts but not for innocent babies.

I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me about anything. I often disagree with myself! I used to be against the death penalty but had an abortion before I knew more about how the soul attaches itself to a fetus and enters it at a fairly early point in the pregnancy. Now I am personally in favor of the death penalty but not in favor of abortions, although I am pro choice for those who wish to kill their unborn babies.

Rick Perry has a lot of things about him that are extremely non appealing to me and he is most assuredly bought and paid for as are probably all politicians. It's always a choice for me of the lesser of the two evils who are running for president. In the next election I would vote for anyone who was running against Obama (if I even vote). Of course I don't think the next President will be a lot better but I can't imagine anyone being worse than Obama. Obama has even surpassed Carter for an innefective and harmful presidency. Bush was pretty bad too but I think Obama is much more dangerous for this country.

[Corncrake]

A little light relief from Andy Borowitz:

http://www.borowitzreport.com/2011/09/22/canada-to-build-twentyfoot-fence-if-perry-elected/

[zenith]

Rick Perry holds the record for most executions ever for a governor, presiding over 235 executions.
At NBC’s Republican presidential debate in early September, he said he "never struggled" with the thought
of an innocent person being executed in Texas. As of January 2011, 266 people previously convicted of serious crimes in the US had been exonerated by
DNA evidence since 1989. Almost all of the convictions related to some form of sexual assault and
approximately 25% involved murder.

Source- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_Project

[jackovesk]

Just think what this mindset in the White House would do :wacko:


Rick Perry holds the record for most executions ever for a governor, presiding over 235 executions. At NBC’s Republican presidential debate in early September, he said he "never struggled" with the thought of an innocent person being executed in Texas.

Perry vetoed a bill that would have exonerated the mentally retarded and juveniles from the death penalty. The governor also fought with the Bush Administration on the case of 51 Mexicans placed on death row, and battled with the Obama cabinet and Mexican officials over the status of Humberto Leal Jr., before signing off on his execution in early July.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/16/supreme-court-halts-execution-of-texas-inmate/

Thanks Horizons,

Sorry I just can't get this out of my head:

Rick Perry reminds me of Humphrey B. Bear (Australian Joke) for some Clown in a Suit..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCqENoN620&feature=related

Americans wonder Why other Countries have 'Little or No Respect' when they continue to 'Serve Up & Support' a talking 'Bobble-Head' like Rick Perry..!

How can ANY Level-Head Human take 'The Talking Puppet' Rick Perry seriously, it really is starting to make my stomach churn, to the point where we should all just roll-over and accept our NWO Serfdom..!

Rick Perry is about as Texas http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1269833214092&id=3e10927207e3ae3f2a40a5bae6f32584&url=http%3a%2f%2fts2.mm.bing.net%2fimages%2fthumbn ail.aspx%3fq%3d1201529560507%26id%3d06cd815bedee41 8bd2d6bb876b9f23d4 as Janet Napolitano http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1265992605817&id=68d850b53e8669948d315543da8fd095&url=http%3a%2f%2fangrywhitedude.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads2%2f2010%2f12%2fjanet-napolitano.jpg is a former Miss World Contestant..!

Or perhaps its the other way round..? Rick Perry is the former Miss World Contestant & Janet Napolitano is a real Texan..?

[Lord Sidious]

Jackonugget, you are making the assumption that these people are actually elected.
With vote rigging going on, you don't know who is who.
And I wouldn't point the finger at any nation when the leaders of australia have been so bad for so long.

[gigha]

Are not all politicians just that.. politicians

g

[shamanseeker]

But who are we to decide that he should go to that better place and tear him away from his loved ones before his time here on earth should end? And what about his wife, parents if they are alive, don't know if he had children. I read that he died because he insisted on his innocence and that there was no real proof of his guilt. A white man, apparently, had been released before him in Georgia even though he had admitted to killing. What kind of justice is this? Our govt in Britain (which is also full of 'criminals' of the worst sort by the way) has talked about bringing the death sentence back and I hope to God that this will not happen. After DNA testing became common they discovered that most people who had been murdered by the state in Britain were in fact not guilty, and surprisingly most of those who had even confessed to those murders!!! I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people rotting away in prisons around the world who are nothing but scapegoats (and often they are black) and the real perpetrators of the crimes they are paying for are walking around free.

[Atlas]

Killing is a fact of life and always has been. [...] That's not going to change any time soon here on the 3D earth plane.
I disagree. "Four countries expunged the death penalty from their law books for good so that today, more than half of all countries in the world have turned their backs on this cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment." (source (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/research/2016/04/death-sentences-executions-2015/))


And it deprives him/her, if the person is truly guilty of the crime, to realise the wrong that has been done, which is the beginning of coming to terms with it.
Agreed.


THE FOUNDATION OF JUSTICE IS A RESPECT FOR HUMAN DIGNITY… UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE IS CAPITAL PUNISHMENT ACCEPTABLE
Period.

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