Different perspective on alien theories - Velon ET threat to humanity

[xion]

Hi all !

I'd like to share this 2 part video interview that I came across.

Chris Thomas gets his info from akashic records and he wrote several interesting books (The Journey Home, The Fool’s First Steps, The Planet Earth, Universe’s Experiment, The Universal Soul, The Human Soul, Project Human Extinction).
I find his info more interesting than most of the stuff floating over the net especially the transition part that we are all so eager waiting for.
Its a 2 hour long interview but its worth watching. Even if you don't agree with all what his saying its gives you different perspective on alien theories.

Here is a short summary of the interview:
"Author and Healer Chris Thomas is unique in his data about a VELON ET presence on earth, and has detailed their history in his recent books. He details the true Human Plan, and Humanity's vital role in the universe, and the involvement with many other ETs over many years.
The latest, Project for Human Extinction, details how the Eliite and Illuminiati were taken over by a small number of Annunaki and Hathor Velon ETs about 300 years ago.
He discusses this and other matters, in this interview. His comments are highly controversial, as he slams many channelers as being specifically "conned" by these Velon ETs.
Highly controversial, and unique data."

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/user/TheQuantumShell?feature=mhee#p/c/CDE742D7CC17D090/0/6Zf7scVDQ1g

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/user/TheQuantumShell?feature=mhee#p/c/CDE742D7CC17D090/1/m-RSwTihJQ0

[passiglight]

nice one xion will watch later,many thanks

[xion]

I'd like to heard some thoughts from you people on this info.

So far, reading from all over the net people are taking things for granted like we all know what happened 13.000 years ago. That we were created by Anunnaki, or grays, or whatever, and that we should trust them. That we know how to ascend, and that we know that the time of ascension is now. What do we actually know about ascension? How does it actually work? Did anyone you know ascended and told you he ascended and he came back to told us how to do it? We only know some stories about people being somewhere, but they don't know where they have been, only that it was great, and those stories are NDE not ascension.

Something that is impossible is the date that a lot of people are waiting for. There is no date! There are changes coming, and the change began some time ago, and the things will be changing until we are all changed. Then and only then I can see progress toward mass ascension. Its insane to think that only people who started to work or have been working on themselves will be able to ascend and the rest of the populous will be left behind.

What if all this was planted to delude us. To sidetrack us with dis-info. To move us of our planet.
We created this world, this reality we live in, this mess, its up to us to clean it. Until we do so I don't see any ascension. To me it looks like we are looking for a shortcut to leave the mess behind and all our people. And we say we are all part of some unity. To me its hypocritical to talk about unity and then talking about people being left behind.

Every story has two sides.

If we are being open to all that is out there, than this is also worth checking.

[vibrations]

I am not very comfortable with this info. Let's say in Croatian "nesto lose mirise". But thank you anyway.

[<8>]

Hi Xion....

I listen to this two now, thanks ..

One thing that stands out a bit is, thats the British government and the monarchy there, have no part of the illuminati or there are a few who have been duped later on.
No really good connection if i got him right..

Well thats is one of the few connections we do have, that they used the royalbloodlines and workt there way to control America as we se it to day, many of the US presidents have a direct bloodlines to them..

One of the things i do like was, stay here on earth and empower yourself, complete your soul if you will....

The rest are prety much like other people are talking about, give or take...

Thanks though i liked it...:)

[apokalypse]

i have been hearing different aliens create or involve in human creation. from what i see is the word create/creation misused more likely manipulate or modify human. we all are God creations as living soul/spirits.

[DarMar]

Hi, zemljace! :)

Through years of digging and interested to watch alot of various theories over various places i got some insight into this theme.
I would very agree with this statement:
What if all this was planted to delude us. To sidetrack us with dis-info.
But i would exclude 'What' part out of it.
Every being has its own battle and own path and story of earth has nothing with earthly global plan, but rather universal global plan, which
backtracks us on beginning where every one has its own path. that one is kinda complicated in same time as its not so much complicated.
That kind of point of view would make this guy alot credible in same time as hes talking nonsense.
It is like one person loves to dance and he feels his soul and refresh his mind with state of dancing, the other ones feels uncomfortable while dancing.. would it be right to want them to dance? and telling them that they will feel wonderful while doing that even if thats far from truth?

I met people which was harrased by ghosts, and yet there was persons which never seen one in whole life.
Also there was people which was blaiming masons for their poor state, and yet there are ones which was fully in control of their lives.
Which one is truth?
I would say both!
This guy is pretty calm and he seems to know what he talk about i would dare to say, yes it is his truth. Is it mine truth...well its far from it :)
Problem i see in this is rather simple, while one can get to answers from self he rather googles for answer and after credible talking he wonders.. is that a truth?
Usually what happens is he fills with data he cannot comprehend and there it starts... but where it ends? usually nowhere.. one can die of old age searching and never knowing why HE incarnated on this plane.
Thats why i agree with idea of implanting deluding idea.
If 'they' are in control, and what we hear on youtube is secret hidden knowledge, why are we able to hear it? why are they allowed to speak amd stay arround?
My answer would be again rather simple :)
The more you got your brain filled with truth versions, the harder you can get to your own. Its that simple.
When Tesla as young man talked about AC/DC power at colledge he got laughed from professors, but he didnt allowed them to get his mind 'straight' and if he got humble in that moment and did accept not their truth, he would never made what he actually did made.
And one of problems of today's world is just that fact that people are imitating his neighbours behaviour and learned to behave in same way.. principles of good behaviour, bonton, do this dont do that and similar stuff...
Cause of that they feel unhappy but hardly they will find out that because they dont listen to their spirit, rather accepting point of view from other persons which btw. has completely different point of view and perspective.
Give bible to just 10 persons and after reading every single one of them will interpret it in his own way and that one is factual truth :)
Also the reason that on earth are such many versions of history is also the same, because there is no real one version of history, and thats why we can hear alot interpretations of past times.
You can take thousands of baloons and let them to float in air, there is no one pair of them which will float in same way, there are not two identically same flowers grown in world...well when air filled rubber cant have same behaviour what makes us think that complicated being like human will act or think the same.
And that one is important fact same as that one that THOUGHT is creator of universe arround us, and we are responsible for our thoughts.
Thats why is mind pollution like youtube and google and insta news in act today as super cool fun thing.. the more you pollute mind with statements that doesn't compile the harder will mind compile correct answer to simple question.

[The Truth Is In There]

I'd like to heard some thoughts from you people on this info.

So far, reading from all over the net people are taking things for granted like we all know what happened 13.000 years ago. That we were created by Anunnaki, or grays, or whatever, and that we should trust them. That we know how to ascend, and that we know that the time of ascension is now. What do we actually know about ascension? How does it actually work? Did anyone you know ascended and told you he ascended and he came back to told us how to do it? We only know some stories about people being somewhere, but they don't know where they have been, only that it was great, and those stories are NDE not ascension.

Something that is impossible is the date that a lot of people are waiting for. There is no date! There are changes coming, and the change began some time ago, and the things will be changing until we are all changed. Then and only then I can see progress toward mass ascension. Its insane to think that only people who started to work or have been working on themselves will be able to ascend and the rest of the populous will be left behind.

What if all this was planted to delude us. To sidetrack us with dis-info. To move us of our planet.
We created this world, this reality we live in, this mess, its up to us to clean it. Until we do so I don't see any ascension. To me it looks like we are looking for a shortcut to leave the mess behind and all our people. And we say we are all part of some unity. To me its hypocritical to talk about unity and then talking about people being left behind.

Every story has two sides.

If we are being open to all that is out there, than this is also worth checking.

of course there is a date. try to disprove the fact that consciousness expands and that we're very close to the point when it expands into infinity. that will happen on a specific date and what is ascension if it isn't infinite expansion of consciousness?

[xion]

To answer what I meant about the date is that when that "date" comes, nothing magical will happen, its just a date. What is more important than a date is the process of ascension when we open our conscious awareness to comprehending the truth about ourselves and all of creation.

There is nothing to disprove about consciousness expanding. Consciousness or awareness can be infinite if you let it. Expansion of consciousness depends on your knowledge and understanding, how do you perceive your surroundings, feelings, how much you are aware of yourself, how much you are in control of your mind. If you limit yourself then your consciousness is limited even if it expands into infinity and beyond.

One thing I don't understand where you said that ascension is infinite expansion of consciousness. You need to clarify that for me couse I lost you there.

[The Truth Is In There]

To answer what I meant about the date is that when that "date" comes, nothing magical will happen, its just a date. What is more important than a date is the process of ascension when we open our conscious awareness to comprehending the truth about ourselves and all of creation.

There is nothing to disprove about consciousness expanding. Consciousness or awareness can be infinite if you let it. Expansion of consciousness depends on your knowledge and understanding, how do you perceive your surroundings, feelings, how much you are aware of yourself, how much you are in control of your mind. If you limit yourself then your consciousness is limited even if it expands into infinity and beyond.

One thing I don't understand where you said that ascension is infinite expansion of consciousness. You need to clarify that for me couse I lost you there.

ok i just finished the two videos. first off, this interview is among the best and most useful i have ever seen. most of what he says makes total sense.

the only thing where i believe he's wrong is also the only part where he stumbled a bit, the mayan calendar end date of dec 21, 2012. he KNOWS that the important date is oct 28, 2011 but because the 2012 date is so much talked about he tries to give some significance to it. but that date is insignificant because at the moment of infinite expansion of consciousness, or as he'd say it, the moment we take 100% of our soul into our bodies, "time" will disappear. so there won't be any 2012 date because at that moment we'll realize that time is an illusion. in the interview he acknowledges that there is a date and that date is "at the end of 2011".

consciousness or awareness can NOT be infinite simply "if you let it", otherwise everyone would just do it and we'd all be ascended beings already. this whole process works on a timetable and that timetable is laid out in the mayan calendar and explained by carl johan calleman. yes, there are human beings who realized their full potential before the "end date" but that required a lot of spiritual work on their part, often lifetimes of work, because they were basically trying to swim faster than the stream that carries all of us. what happens at the "end date" is that for all those who choose to realize their full potential, to "ascend" or to "bring their whole soul into the human form" this process will become infinitely easier because the expansion of consciousness is naturally reaching infinity and all it takes at that moment is the will (free will!) to do it.

but that won't happen for everyone because of free will. billions of people on earth are still completely unaware of their higher selves and all related things and those who don't choose to expand their consciousness at the moment when it is the easiest won't "ascend", they'll not "bring their entire soul into the human form" and they'll go through another period of basic 3rd dimensional existence in order to grow and to learn.

[Nortreb]

Thanks xion! This was a very interesting piece to bounce off of the discernment meter! ;)

[xion]

First of all thx for opening up and for your thoughts and time to write them ;)

OK, lets do this dates to the death :)
We are on the same page here but I see that we interpret things differently.
The end of Mayan calendar I see as the end of one era. The wheel will make its 360 and that will mark the end and the beginning of another era. In that other era, as Mayans see, we will "start" living, or starting to comprehend the truth about ourselves and all of creation on mass level. (I hope).
What I agree with you and I HOPE it is truth, (although we can't be sure, because this is the first time we will experience it) is that we will have easier way of understanding things and that will help us to to move forward.
Again I say this will be a process that will take time, (but less time that we had before) and not some switch that will happen that will light us up and off we go.

Imagine this for a sec. How would you know about this date if we didn't found that calendar. What you're saying is that all mankind would be "doomed" for a lack of a better word.
Also what about the children being born, or very young people how don't know about the calendar, or the dates. You can't just say they are born in wrong place in the right time. Some people didn't even heard of Mayas. Don't have TV, net, etc. We are all in this together.
If we are going down that road you're saying then all people of earth will be left behind, because there are no more than 150mil of people that are "awaken" if so (maybe I even exaggerated the number, perhaps even less). If there were more we would see change on our planet and not this greedy, corrupt, warmongering society we live in.

On the consciousness, the exact point is that its simple, but people can't let things happen to them. We are all always occupied with something. Most of them don't know how to let it happen. We don't work on ourselves on spiritual level, because all this what we are talking about here is spiritual. Soulwork, lightwork, whatever you want to call it. Most of people don't even know how to grasp that concept.

We can open a thread on consciousness and get some more people in :)

[Hughe]

Thanks a lot.



The latest, Project for Human Extinction, details how the Eliite and Illuminiati were taken over by a small number of Annunaki and Hathor Velon ETs about 300 years ago.
He discusses this and other matters, in this interview. His comments are highly controversial, as he slams many channelers as being specifically "conned" by these Velon ETs.
Highly controversial, and unique data."

I watched Part 2 before Part 1 accidentally.

It seems his claim of manipulation of modern humans is wild right out of the Sci-Fi novel. Velon sent few individuals to thousands years ago and triggered a historic event that changed the flow of timeline of entire human race which would have favored Velon's at 300 years ago.

The plot is familiar to the Wingmakers material.

If so Velon was successful to outsmart and kicked out all the alien factions that existed way before the Sumerian civilization within 300 years. I agree with his aspect of ascension but other stories of human history are doubtful.

To rewrite the history of entire race is impossible IMHO. It will be great if other capable psychics like him access the Akashic data and validate his claims.

[Aquai]

Thanks alot for this it was a great interview :) :) :)

[Nortreb]

First of all thx for opening up and for your thoughts and time to write them ;)

OK, lets do this dates to the death :)
We are on the same page here but I see that we interpret things differently.
The end of Mayan calendar I see as the end of one era. The wheel will make its 360 and that will mark the end and the beginning of another era. In that other era, as Mayans see, we will "start" living, or starting to comprehend the truth about ourselves and all of creation on mass level. (I hope).
What I agree with you and I HOPE it is truth, (although we can't be sure, because this is the first time we will experience it) is that we will have easier way of understanding things and that will help us to to move forward.
Again I say this will be a process that will take time, (but less time that we had before) and not some switch that will happen that will light us up and off we go.

Imagine this for a sec. How would you know about this date if we didn't found that calendar. What you're saying is that all mankind would be "doomed" for a lack of a better word.
Also what about the children being born, or very young people how don't know about the calendar, or the dates. You can't just say they are born in wrong place in the right time. Some people didn't even heard of Mayas. Don't have TV, net, etc. We are all in this together.
If we are going down that road you're saying then all people of earth will be left behind, because there are no more than 150mil of people that are "awaken" if so (maybe I even exaggerated the number, perhaps even less). If there were more we would see change on our planet and not this greedy, corrupt, warmongering society we live in.

On the consciousness, the exact point is that its simple, but people can't let things happen to them. We are all always occupied with something. Most of them don't know how to let it happen. We don't work on ourselves on spiritual level, because all this what we are talking about here is spiritual. Soulwork, lightwork, whatever you want to call it. Most of people don't even know how to grasp that concept.

We can open a thread on consciousness and get some more people in :)

There is an very striking vibe to this thread along with the videos.

We are all unique and different. IMHO this is what makes the experience of individual consciousness and this is stimulating the interesting vibe all over the planet. What it is? I do not know? When is something going to happen? I do not know but maybe it is happening at this moment as we are exchanging views of this experiment. Did we have a chance to do this 20 or 30 years ago to interact in this way? It is sort of the inmates are talking to each other now! Ut oh! :mod:

Everyone including those who are so-called not aware of the latest old news and everything is experiencing this grand experiment on this planet at this time including the Velon/Archons in their own unique way. The vibe is prime. That is why the Foolish powers are running scared.

IMHO, a thread on Consciousness would be real cool as long as it excludes regurgitated quotes from books. Everyone has something to express in their experiences called Life. IMHO quoting someone else is what they(Foolish powers) have programed into our minds. We are not repeaters. We are becoming because now we are engaging Consciousness which resonates at a higher vibration. :cool:

[The Truth Is In There]

The end of Mayan calendar I see as the end of one era. The wheel will make its 360 and that will mark the end and the beginning of another era. In that other era, as Mayans see, we will "start" living, or starting to comprehend the truth about ourselves and all of creation on mass level. (I hope).
What I agree with you and I HOPE it is truth, (although we can't be sure, because this is the first time we will experience it) is that we will have easier way of understanding things and that will help us to to move forward.
Again I say this will be a process that will take time, (but less time that we had before) and not some switch that will happen that will light us up and off we go.

Imagine this for a sec. How would you know about this date if we didn't found that calendar.

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On the consciousness, the exact point is that its simple, but people can't let things happen to them. We are all always occupied with something. Most of them don't know how to let it happen. We don't work on ourselves on spiritual level, because all this what we are talking about here is spiritual. Soulwork, lightwork, whatever you want to call it. Most of people don't even know how to grasp that concept.

We can open a thread on consciousness and get some more people in :)

see, this is where i believe you're both wrong. this is not just the end of an era and the beginning of a new one in terms of a small cycle such as the long count (5125 years) or even the precessional cycle (which the maya never mentioned anywhere according to calleman, so it's not significant to them).

anyway, chris seems to think it's of a cyclic nature and so do you but that's not the case because we deal with the 16.4 billion years "cycle" of the expansion of consciousness and that isn't really a cycle because it has no beginning and no end, it's infinite like consciousness or the universe itself! and on october 28th consciousness supposedly expands into infinity, something it has NEVER done before so it can't possibly be compared to any cycle and it can't possibly be a cyclical event that is repeated every now and then because, as explained before, it's not a cycle, it's expanding since forever and on oct 28th it reaches a point where it expands so fast that it reaches infinity on that day. i've already explained my point of view about this to death in a few other threads so i won't go into more detail here.

however, there's something else where i don't agree with him. i've watched two more interviews yesterday and read a pdf file and he always mentiones that around the year 2000 earth raised her vibration from 7.56hz to 3.5khz along with everything on earth except us humans. well, that's impossible because if something like that happened everything would disappear before our very eyes and we'd float in space and die instantly.

what may have happened is that earth realized or imagined (and thus created) another physical body at that frequency but it exists parallel to ours here with the low vibration. then what happens at the point of ascension is that those who are ready to ascend raise their vibration to that 3.5khz level - by bringing their full soul energy into the body, to us chris' words - and at that point these people will disappear at the lower vibrational level.

this is what many sources describe as the splitting of the two earths and i believe it will happen during the famous "three days of darkness". chris mentioned that about 3 million people on earth have already reached that level but we don't see them. fine, but not because they live in remote regions, no - because they vibrate at a higher level and so they're invisible to us, and we to them. if you have a radio receiver and turn it from 7.56hz to 3.5kz you don't receive the 7.56hz channel anymore and it's the same with the "two earths". earth is multidimensional just like we are, only we have our focus on the 7.56hz right now and after ascension it will probably be at that 3.5khz level.

regarding the "process taking time", do you realize that it has taken time all along, since thousands of years? at some point it won't take any longer, it simply happens, and when should that be if not at the moment of infinite expansion? afterwards time doesn't exist anymore, you exist in the now, at one with all-that-is, and you'll be able to move your focus to any point in time and space and experience it.


What you're saying is that all mankind would be "doomed" for a lack of a better word.
Also what about the children being born, or very young people how don't know about the calendar, or the dates. You can't just say they are born in wrong place in the right time. Some people didn't even heard of Mayas. Don't have TV, net, etc. We are all in this together.
If we are going down that road you're saying then all people of earth will be left behind, because there are no more than 150mil of people that are "awaken" if so (maybe I even exaggerated the number, perhaps even less). If there were more we would see change on our planet and not this greedy, corrupt, warmongering society we live in.

you view this from a "3d body" perspective, not from the perspective of your soul/higher self. chris addressed this too, somewhere in the interviews. if you're ready your higher self will take care of the rest and give you the clues you need, lead you to the information and help you to get ready. if somebody incarnated into the body of some person who for whatever reason couldn't obtain the necessary information or do the necessary work that just means that this person wasn't about to get ready in the first place and knew it (from a higher perspective). remember, everything exists now - your birth, your death, all of your lives on earth and everywhere in the universe and the higher self has complete control. you're just one aspect of it and because you don't have a direct connection right now you believe that you're not in control of your destiny.

chris also talks about people waiting to be taken away from earth by "negative" ETs. well, if that happens then it means it's an experience they need and their higher selves agreed to it, otherwise it would not happen. it's as simple as that. if we make mistakes it's in order to learn something we need to learn and nothing ever happens without our higher selves' consent.