Death,Death,Death,Death,Death,And............whats next.??

[<8>]

Hi Guys..


Oboy am i on thin-ice this time...And i want too make it perfectly clear...This has nothing to do with suicide whatsoever.!!
I will try to explain to the best of my ability, i am so curious about death, that i'm certain even my old self would not really approve.

Nevertheless i seem to be at this stage on my journey, and if i self analyze myself, i really believe this is progress.
I am curious and looking forward for the unknown, if this was a year ago, i would get chills all over deep-diving in this subject.

And even though you and me can talk about death at some level, i bet 99% get that uncomfortable feeling when you really think about your own death.
Thats why i think i made progress, i really like to get your take on whats next after this life.
If you like to talk about GOD and angels thats fine, but if you like too go deeper or maybe more practical are the word i am looking for.

For example, many talk about how we are here on earth to learn, so that means you have to report back in when you are done here.
If one whants too lean on the NDE info, you get a life review and that seem logical, but what's the plan after that?

If you look at the OBE info, there are dead people all over the next reality, but they seem to mingel with people who are are dreaming from our reality.
And many of the dead over there dont seem to understand they passed over, when OBE people confront them about them beeing dead.

What does all this mean..???
I really dont whant to wright too much, and i realize we got limited information about this.
What's your take on what's next after this life, maybe you got a piece of information you feel is really important for you..??

[thunder24]

What does all this mean..???
I really dont whant to wright too much, and i realize we got limited information about this.
What's your take on what's next after this life, maybe you got a piece of information you feel is really important for you..??

change....

peace

[<8>]

What does all this mean..???
I really dont whant to wright too much, and i realize we got limited information about this.
What's your take on what's next after this life, maybe you got a piece of information you feel is really important for you..??

change....

peace


Let's hope so..:)

[loc333]

I have been close to death so many times, I have seen the positives of still being alive and no negatives.... it's not about yourself, it's about helping others, if you can.

[Bright Garlick]

These are great existential questions we all must face. I have cancer and look forward to death but not now, when I am ready.
I believe we exist over there as we do here - with the same level of awareness. If you experience your death now and complete letting go of all attachments - you are free to be truly aware in death - or else you are drawn back to craving and a yearning for new life.

For me personally a really big shock came when I learned that I was created by entities that also created this world. All my ideas about god changed after I realized that this was true.

I also became familiar with 1 Buddhist masters phrase - Illness is just a label, Death is just a concept. This helped me to understand conditioning and that we are the body and more than the body.

If we realize peace in this life, we have peace afterwards. If we are tormented now, it is highly likely that we will be tormented for some time after - so better to sort our self out now.

I also learned how to embrace self and non self and accept a total dissolution of all that I am - you might say 'the possibility of returning to source or returning to the void'.

Good luck on the journey !!!!

Bright. :washing:

[apokalypse]

Raymond Moody talk about Death Experiences on Coast to Coast from human non-exopolitics prespective... http://www.youtube.com/user/MrSuperpotatotomato#p/c/290945576F5BC3D2/2/uCp8i6l_S80

[Lily de Cuir]

deleted....sorry, changed my mind about replying.

[Sierra]

Heh. Depends on how aware you are. You can be certain I will be building it into my next contract to be aware of all my previous lives, how to contact the akashic record and to be able to OBE. That it, if I was so unaware this life, that I must come back.

Course, should we shift, coming back would be a joy. Let's aim for that timeline, where it is SO nice here, we don't mind coming back.

[ktlight]

These are great existential questions we all must face. I have cancer and look forward to death but not now, when I am ready.
Bright. :washing:

Have you tried organic maple syrup and barking soda to get your body into an alkaline situation?

[christian]

I feel very comfortable with the fact, that my body is a mortal vessel, it puts things in perspective.

Don Juan Matus says, our own death is always right next to us, he is our best advisor and will only enter once your body's energy field allows him to creep in. It's just another way of saying 'memento mori' - remember, that you will die.

I don't worry about what happens at some other time than now. I'll maybe read the Tibetan Book of the Dead at some time, when I feel like leaving, I thought to myself, but maybe things change in the meantime anyways.

[Tony]

So called death.

The Tibetan Book of the Dead, is very instructive, but it needs a commentary to go with it.
It instructs two types of student, one who has realised the nature of mind and the other Vajrayana students who practise with a deity.

It is read to a dying practitioner who is familiar with this text, having practised throughout their lives. It is also read aloud when the person has died. If they have practised then they can hear!

For ordinary beings the whole process flashes by without notice, as in life, so in death. For people I know, I read to them and explain the process for up to 49 days. That is the period said for the 'Bardo' to last.

The reading serves as a reminder. It reminds the practitioner how to recognise their true nature, and how to recognise the lights and deities. If this is missed, then how to choose the next incarnation.

Does it work? One cannot tell, but the intention and honesty is very important.

Kind regards
Tony

[Fred Steeves]

Hi <8>, I guess I don't really even see death as death per say any more, just a different frequency of existance. There's nothing mystical about it, just most of us don't remember, consciously anyway. Try thinking about it this way: How many hundreds, probably thousands of at the time very important events have happened in our lives that over the years we've just totally forgotten about, consciously that is, just like it never happened. Then one day we're thumbing through some old pictures and it's like "Wow, I forgot all about that day, how cool!" There was never anything mysterious about that "day", or any of the forgotten others. We had the experience, it was duly registered in our DNA makeup, we moved on to other "things", and eventually it was "forgotten".

We've all been here PLENTY of times, and I DO look forward to thumbing through all those "old pictures", all at once probably.:) But, if you trust that you're always just where you need to be, then right HERE is where we're supposed to be; Physically, mentally, and spiritually. We're in the process of taking one of those "pictures" now, quite possibly the most memorable one yet. We don't want to be the dorky kid in the class photo gazing off to the side somewhere. :ohwell:

Here's one more take: What if it is indeed true that we ARE amongst the luckiest souls in the universe to be incarnated here now in this time, and there IS a scramble just to even come in as a miscarriage to be part of it...Hmmmm...

Cheers,
Fred

[<8>]

I get reminded in some periods every day of death, thanks to my condition as diabetic (insulin injections daily)
For you who dont know your blood suger levels, the blood suger level are normal around 4-6 after 1 hour eating anything. When you eat the blood suger can go up to +10 thats normal (we are not robots)
But when the blood suger level goes down under lev "4" thats when you get a bit closer to death, so how can i tell you guys who dont have this..hmmm

You know when you have been out having fun all night and you dring alcohol, and at the late hours you grab something to eat. Some of you might have notice you are a bit shaky, its the alcohol who
brings the blood suger down. The body needs fuel to raise the blood suger level, so how low was your blood suger level at this point. Well a normal person never pas "3" if you ask me.
Why!!?? well there are many symptoms really, but when you pas "3" and getting closer to "2" in blood suger, the light all around you are getting brighter.

When you hit level "2" or lower in blood suger, a computer or tv screen get bright as the sun and you cant see nothing more then light, how hard you try to make out whats on the screen.
Now you have past level "2" and you are on the way down to level "1" in blood suger, you know if you look in to the sun and you get small sun spots.
I don't recommend this, but if you happend to get sun spots, try to study them, they are beautiful. And they appear all over when you look around at this stage.

Now we are down at one and we might even just pas level "1" Now everything are so bright around you, you cant even see where you are walking.
And the sun spots are taking new shapes and get stronger the edge of the shape burn like fire, and the brightest yet are the shape of the number "8"
Its so beautiful you want to dive right in to it and just float away, i am not sure at what level one dies of this or you brain fries.

I have personally been at lev 0,8...and i really dont think there is away back after 0,5 in blood suger level...

All this take years of experience to not panic and study this, My first time at 2,8 in blood suger level i called for ambulance..<---nuub..:P

Soo even when i wrote in a thread here on Avalon i was close to drowning once and one time i was down at 32C after spending time in a winter river..
I am really closer to death right at home every day..

P.s ..I use suger to bring up by blood suger level and i know exactly how much i need to take...and i got this at age 30.. so i can compare with a normal life quiet good..:)


AND NEVER PLAY AROUND WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Samsara]

P.s ..I use suger to bring up by blood suger level and i know exactly how much i need to take...and i got this at age 30.. so i can compare with a normal life quiet good..:)


AND NEVER PLAY AROUND WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, never play around with this ... there are so many complications with diabetes that can hinder your life.

Take care of yourself 8

[ktlight]

<8>, please read this link: http://www.mmsanswers.org/index.php?option=com_wiwalphalisting&view=wiwalphalisting&cat_id=1:diseases&Itemid=2&start_index=D&end_index=

[<8>]

P.s ..I use suger to bring up by blood suger level and i know exactly how much i need to take...and i got this at age 30.. so i can compare with a normal life quiet good..:)


AND NEVER PLAY AROUND WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, never play around with this ... there are so many complications with diabetes that can hinder your life.

Take care of yourself 8


Thanks Samsara...

But the:

complications

"Dont" come from low blood suger, they come from high blood suger levels over along period...:)

thanks for the concern though....:)

[<8>]

<8>, please read this link: http://www.mmsanswers.org/index.php?option=com_wiwalphalisting&view=wiwalphalisting&cat_id=1:diseases&Itemid=2&start_index=D&end_index=

Thanks Ktlight..:)

I have lookt at Bills video with Jim..But i did not know it workt on Diabetes to..

I guess i have to try it now..:)

[ktlight]

<8>, please read this link: http://www.mmsanswers.org/index.php?option=com_wiwalphalisting&view=wiwalphalisting&cat_id=1:diseases&Itemid=2&start_index=D&end_index=

Thanks Ktlight..:)

I have lookt at Bills video with Jim..But i did not know it workt on Diabetes to..

I guess i have to try it now..:)

Good luck and good health. Let us know how you get on.

[DNA]

Basically there are two places you can wind up as far as I know.

If you listen to your dead loved ones, relatives and over all rightous care takers, you end up experiencing what Pam Reynolds exprerienced.
What makes Pam's story the universal go to move for folks who don't believe in an after life is the unique circumstances of her near death experience.

Pam had a brain anyrism that was about to burst in her inner brain. The only operation that gave her a remote chance of survival was one that entailed the doctors to literally kill her, drain her body of blood and lower her body temperture recreating the same death like circumstances that occure when some one drowns in an icy pool.

The argument against NDE's is that the event that unfolds is a reaction taking place inside your brain.
But, Pam's brain was flatlined, and this is documented, so no data could have been processed in the organic portion of her consciousness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNbdUEqDB-k

The other place would be in the fourth dimension.
You don't wanna end up there.
It is the abode of astral parasites and things that must suck the god given life force from the living in order to sustain themselves.
I discuss these unsavory things here Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Beings (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21614-Parasitic-Non-Organic-Multidimensional-Beings)

[Tony]

To simplify on how to approach death.
I have asked this question many times, and the answer is to rest in ones natural state. Then at the moment of body death, ones mind is said to be 9 times clearer, and it is easier to fully recognise ones true nature and become enlightened. It is called the meeting of mother and child, the moment of clear light. There are other occasions after death when realisation is possible.

For people like us, beginner and average practitioners. Remembering compassion for all sentient beings and wishing them well is very powerful. In doing so, one is coming at the natural state from the other direction. Because one is concerned for others, at that moment there is no thought of self and clinging. Either the clear light will be recognised or it will help with a higher rebirth. That is the path of compassion.

There is also the path of devotion, to whatever higher power or deity you supplicate to. This is very powerful. It also takes away the thoughts of self, and places it on something that one considers higher.

Tony