Help For Family

[risveglio]

I am posting here because I am just not sure what to do next and figured some healing can not hurt. I have a family member who is diagnosed bipolar and is in the beginning of her manic stage. Now her manic stages are a bit different than other bipolar people I have met and she appears to lose all control and almost become a different person. This causes a strong divide because even though we know she is sick, her actions are usually painful to anyone that "knows" she is manic or gets in her way. It causes anger, sadness and an overwhelming feeling of helplessness.

I am not really sure what to ask for, healing for her would obviously be great but I don't want to be greedy. Some sort of protection for where this illness takes her would be helpful. Also protection to stay in peace for all of us that cross her path would be of great help too. I know I need to stay on top of it, when this time comes I feel intense pressure, worrying about what she may do to herself, someone I love or myself. Also worrying if I will be able to control my own anger when she is doing harm.

I don't know, I am rambling, I just feel a bit lost.

[crosby]

risveglio, my thoughts and prayers are with you at this trying time. dealing with depression in all of its' phases is very difficult. my best to you and your family. much strength too you now.
warmest regards, corson

[MorgaineFallen]

Oh, such a tricky situation!
It is paiful for all parts when the periods come.

I will send you all warm thoughts and calm. I hope this will be a short episode.
Lots of HUGS!

[Marianne]

Risveglio,

I'm sorry to hear about these issues in your family. I will continue to think on it, but the first thing that came to me is to use M.A.P. (Medical Assistance Program) which is explained in a book of the same name (M.A.P.) by Machaelle Wright.

Here is her website (Perelandra Center for Nature Research):
http://www.perelandra-ltd.com/

Here's the page for M.A.P.
http://www.perelandra-ltd.com/Search.aspx?k=MAP

This is a form of energy medicine that can have physical effects. I have used it for many years. It may seem a little 'out there' when you first read about it, but I can tell you that, in my experience, it's of the highest calibre. It's useful for emotional issues, physical issues, spiritual issues, and mental issues. There is a thread on Avalon where a few people have posted about it. I'll post again when I find it, so you can pop over to it and have a look.

Please PM if you need some help learning this, or have questions, or just want to talk.

All love,
Marianne

PS: mods, I hope it is ok to put up a link to this website -- she does sell stuff, but has a lot of free info too. If you need to take it down, please go ahead -- anyone who wants info can PM me. :) Thanks.

[Marianne]

Here is the MAP thread -- it was started by Snowbird.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19058-MAP-Medical-Assistance-Program&p=279511&highlight=perelandra#post279511

[Samsara]

These are very troubling moments for you and your family. Dealing with this type of suffering is very hard for all involved. I hear you. Worrying will not change a thing. Not worrying either. It is as it is. Be kind to yourself, respect your limits, do what you can.

May you find peace within among the chaos.

[Mark]

I agree with Samsara, respect your limits, do what you can when you can. We each have to live our lives and deal with the hand we are dealt. The best way you can support your family member (sister?) is to do what you can to help her reach her highest potentiality in every moment. That may mean you holding back sometimes when your heart yearns to take on her burden, but it is hers to carry, as it is her fate. Since she did not ask for it, I will not send her energy. As you have, I send to you to awaken the potentiality to manifest your highest outcome in each instance when you feel that your responses might not be in everyone's best interest.

[Dawn]

Wow... tough. Focus on yourself and what you can do to stay balanced. Self love is so important. Sending you some good ju-ju right now.

[Heyoka_11]

Hi risveglio,

Oh do I know how trying these episodes can be, having a family member who is a paranoid schizophrenic. When he enters a psychotic episode, the effect on all around can be utterly devastating.

My wish for you and the other members of your family is that you receive the strength that you need to cope with her illness.

Much Love,

Tony.

[risveglio]

Today was pretty peaceful and I got some great advice. Whatever you guys did worked on this day. Thank you all and to those that sent me great advice in private.

[shadowstalker]

Love/healing/harmony vibes sent to you and yours

[TraineeHuman]

Unfortunately, Risvegllio, you have to keep working hard to make sure you keep yourself protected. You say the manic family member's actions are usually painful when she's in one of her phases. Well, as someone with a professional background in both social work and psychology, let me suggest the following. You need to work hard to find some way to consciously create strong "padding" that will keep you from feeling that pain, or despondency or whatever. If you don't do that consciously, and to the extent that you don't, you will sub-consciously create "padding" within yourself that dulls you or kills your confidence in all parts of your life and not just those involving this person.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Wishing you and your family all well :)

Have you considered this could be some diet issue (gluten, lack of iodine, aspartame etc.) maybe your family member reached her intake threshhold? Do skiping meals reduce manic phase occurence?
This could be also some parasite. They can literary hijack animals brains and command them to do some freaking things. If animals can be affected humans can be too. A special blood test for parasites should detect some abnormlities. These are just some aditional posibilities to look at... All will be well :)

[mahalall]

My thoughts are with you.

[risveglio]

Unfortunately, Risvegllio, you have to keep working hard to make sure you keep yourself protected. You say the manic family member's actions are usually painful when she's in one of her phases. Well, as someone with a professional background in both social work and psychology, let me suggest the following. You need to work hard to find some way to consciously create strong "padding" that will keep you from feeling that pain, or despondency or whatever. If you don't do that consciously, and to the extent that you don't, you will sub-consciously create "padding" within yourself that dulls you or kills your confidence in all parts of your life and not just those involving this person.

I think this has happened to me and other family members in the past which is one of the reasons why I am looking for help ahead of time. Though much better off now, I still have not found the same zest for life I had before these episodes began.


Wishing you and your family all well :)

Have you considered this could be some diet issue (gluten, lack of iodine, aspartame etc.) maybe your family member reached her intake threshhold? Do skiping meals reduce manic phase occurence?
This could be also some parasite. They can literary hijack animals brains and command them to do some freaking things. If animals can be affected humans can be too. A special blood test for parasites should detect some abnormlities. These are just some aditional posibilities to look at... All will be well :)

Well, when she is not manic she is very health conscience and does avoid gluten, but when the mania hits, for whatever reason, she throws everything out the window. Unhealthy eating, not taking her meds, smoking, drinking, whatever can keep her on her high.

[WhiteFeather]

Focus your great intentions of peace and healing towards her as consciousness is everything. I will do the same for her in my thoughts here. For we can comfort, heal people through the source field of consciousness. So be it. My thoughts are with your family as we think.

[Fred Steeves]

Focus your great intentions of peace and healing towards her as consciousness is everything. I will do the same for her in my thoughts here. For we can comfort, heal people through the source field of consciousness. So be it. My thoughts are with your family as we think.

Hi risveglio, WhiteFeather summed up my thoughts towards you and your loved ones in this long term distress much better than I could have, so please consider the exact same from me.:)

Cheers,
Fred

[Sidney]

I believe the increased solar activity can aggravate emotional/mental disorders. I dont have a disorder, or mental illness, but I have to say when these solar flares/cme's occur, my moods are greatly affected. Are you keeping track of the episodes on a calendar to track any patterns? That may be a good idea, then if there is a pattern, be it menstrual cycles, lunar cycles, or solar activity, she can be prepared ahead of time, and become aware that she needs to make a point to take her meds etc.
I am sending positive energy your way. And keep in mind you are not alone, alot of ppl are having full swing drama in their lives at this time. Blessings

[Czarek]

restore the gut flora, clear the toxins.

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
http://www.doctor-natasha.com/

[Rainbowbrite]

Supportive energy coming your way :) Thank you for reaching out, everyone here has given you really good advice. It's tough dealing with any sort of illness in the family, however this can be especially hard - thinking of you and let us know how things are.

Brightest Blessings to All - Rain

[TraineeHuman]

Since you asked, Risveglio, let me try to describe to you how I’ve managed to deal with some similar situations to yours with complete success. Let me use a situation in my own family as an example. It so happened that my stepfather was a paranoid schizophrenic – though I didn’t work out that he was that until after he had died. Basically, he had some strongly held beliefs that I was a “loser” in certain ways, and a disappointment. The way I got him to change his tune was as follows. Firstly, I made it very clear that there was no chance of my ever agreeing with his view of me, even in part. Moreover, various others who knew me as well as him, including my mother, held a different, and very positive, view of me. So he was wasting everyone’s time even voicing any of his negative beliefs about me. I made that very, very clear to him.

Secondly, with enormous certainty and authority I pointed out that he was missing out on all the joys of having a more positive relationship with me. He was denying all the natural affection that was there between us. I emphasized that that was far more important than what he had been putting his attention on. In the end, it didn’t matter whether he was right or wrong in his critical judgments and accusations towards me. These were trivial things compared to what really mattered underneath everything else. That was the affection. If he had lost touch with that, then he wasn’t living his life rightly, and needed to get back to what was really natural, to putting first things first. That was the only way to get his life right. I insisted that he agree that from then on, when he met me he would give me a hug, and strive to stay with the positivity that came from that. No more unimportant nonsense. Life is all about getting back to feeling good inside.

Amazingly, from that time on he was interested only in hearing more about how I had been successful or done positive things. In retrospect, I would have to say that cured him of his schizophrenia of many years. And all through simply getting him to get back to what’s really important. (Admittedly, that was combined with making it clear to him that nobody other than himself was willing to believe any of his complaints about me.) Keep defusing the complaints by strongly insisting on positive communication only. It works.

[seko]

Lots of love to you and your sister and a big group hug for both of you.

Maybe listening to her may help.

Also having a cat or a dog in the house. Animals are amazing.:grouphug:

[risveglio]

Thanks for all the advice. Listening is not really an option, trying to be rational is not really an option. The best I can do from what I can tell is just make sure she is not doing any real harm. Right now it is just a bunch of odd emails to family and friends and some really strange things around the house but nothing that I can be rational about. She is also spending all her money on useless items, luckily she does not have a lot of money, but in the past this has led to theft. As a lot of the great advice on here has stated the only thing I can really control is myself, not letting my temper go. It is very strange but it is not something I have not been through before, it is just this time there is less family around to assist.

[risveglio]

Today was a rough one but she said something today during one of our conversations, that she and my brother are yokas? She does a lot of strange things and says words that are so confusing. When I tried to show her what she was doing, I asked her when my sister was coming back and she shook her head and said that she could not be my sister, she is not a women, she is a man and then she walked away mumbling Italian.

Anyway, my sister, when at peace is an amazing person. Very smart and far kinder than I could ever be. She is far more researched when it comes to a lot of the spiritual topics on this forum. She would probably be a better Avalonian(ite) than I am.

Does it make any sense for me to try to read into what she is doing? Anyone know what she may mean by her and my brother being Yokas?

[Nanoo Nanoo]

restore the gut flora, clear the toxins.

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
http://www.doctor-natasha.com/



Ditto !


and try B Complex vitamins .. Lots of them ! and a Magnesium Suppliment to calm the mind :)


have a lok at this guys videos ,,, ultimately he is selling suppliments but he does go into great detail on how to beat these illnesses .. as Czarek cleverly points out .. look at the gut .. it may have toxins that are causing her to react this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUWL1o2hSrs&NR=1


All the best with it :)

N

[risveglio]

restore the gut flora, clear the toxins.

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
http://www.doctor-natasha.com/



Ditto !


and try B Complex vitamins .. Lots of them ! and a Magnesium Suppliment to calm the mind :)


have a lok at this guys videos ,,, ultimately he is selling suppliments but he does go into great detail on how to beat these illnesses .. as Czarek cleverly points out .. look at the gut .. it may have toxins that are causing her to react this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUWL1o2hSrs&NR=1


All the best with it :)

N

This is great but in the state she is in now, there is no way I can get her to do anything. To take pills, to sleep, to not make weird potions with any liquid she can get her hand on.

[aranuk]

Sending you and yours healing thoughts risveglio////////////////////// My grand son is afflicted with bi-polar disorder since 4 yrs ago and with medication he is doing better and giving my wife and I a wee break. I know it can be unbearable at times. Chin up.

Stan