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Dawn
28th September 2011, 04:03
OK debunkers here at Avalon... this was just sent to me and links to 'Press Core' site. Is this yet one more dramatic build up to something that has no truth... or does this information have validity?
Tunnels to at least 13 underground bases being sealed off.
Posted by PC World news Thursday, September 22nd, 2011
At least 13 very powerful underground explosions rocked the United States Midwest in the last 48 hours. They registered as small shallow earthquakes with the USGS. Many of the underground high explosive detonations registered as 2.6 magnitude earthquakes. The U.S. military is said to be sealing off the tunnels so that the Globalists and the U.S. ghost government (Federal Reserve Bankers, FEMA, DHS, CIA) can’t run and hide from what is predicted to occur within 48 hours of September 27, 2011.
Officers in the U.S. military didn’t seem to be aware of Obama and the Globalists’ planned converging on Denver for a DEFCON 1 (nuclear war imminent) “cocked pistol” drill. An email was sent to the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations on September 21, 2011 to alert them to planned false flag nuclear detonations on U.S. soil in the American Midwest. The U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations were the ones who raided Citadel Gun and Safe Store in Las Vegas on August 21, 2011 to recover stolen nuclear warhead detonators. They were the ones who intercepted the transfer of improvised nuclear warheads by the CIA in the tunnels that connected the Deep Underground Military Bases on August 23, 2011. The improvised nuclear bombs (W54 style warheads) were being transfered via those tunnels to Washington DC and New York City when they detonated during a firefight between U.S. military personnel and CIA/DHS/FEMA operatives.
It would appear that the U.S. military had a deadline to meet and has already damaged, destroyed or sealed at least 13 underground tunnels or bases. Perhaps their incentive was the fact that Obama, his shadow government and the Globalists made plans to save their own hides and leave the rest of use to fend for ourselves. Perhaps they investigated and confirmed that another false flag nuclear detonation was imminent and acted accordingly to prevent it.
Short URL: http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4492
Calz
28th September 2011, 04:12
No idea but *IF* the initial story regarding Colorado and Virginia are true then it would make sense to follow.
There are many many underground bases worldwide most connected. If the cabal lost their 2 prime bunkers then there would still be plenty of options given a little time.
math330
28th September 2011, 09:54
My inner skeptic is asking if there's a 'real' news link to any of this?
Is Presscore.ca a reliable news source or is this a constructed story? Seems ok, there's no flashing adverts for gold etc.. but it runs a HAARP headline.
I'm calling bs on this story. More distraction and nonsense.
Calz
28th September 2011, 10:00
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.
The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.
That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.
IMHO
math330
28th September 2011, 10:05
thanks, Calz :)
That's something to look for - nice one. Will have a read today
Maybe it's one scare story too many for me (a la Elenin, a la 9.11.11 etc etc)... another scare-story to distract us from the state of the economy and real, present problems?
Calz
28th September 2011, 10:16
thanks, Calz :)
That's something to look for - nice one. Will have a read today
Maybe it's one scare story too many for me (a la Elenin, a la 9.11.11 etc etc)... another scare-story to distract us from the state of the economy and real, present problems?
Here is a thread with some of the details.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30939-Scientists-Confirm-Fulford-s-Story-Of-Nuclear-Attack--Scientists-now-onto-HAARP..-
The OP title including "nuclear attack confirmed" is not really "confirmed" but shows the seismology graphs and other abnormalities of the "quakes".
math330
28th September 2011, 10:54
Ok, yeah the 'quakes' or whatever they were/are seem real enough - and too shallow to be quakes. Something seems to be afoot, no doubt.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0824/Three-earthquakes-in-three-days.-More-than-coincidence
I still don't see how the leap has been made to '13 tunnels sealed off' and an internal struggle between military and the 'Elites', and on further reading I'm not convinced presscore is particularly reliable (all of the stories link back to the same, unreliable source)
I understand people's desire to get to the bottom of the story but fearmongering (take the 'Dumbs' youtube clip doing the rounds for instance - many of the images aren't military, none are captioned or credited - they could be anything! Dumbs exist, but I doubt we'd get to see any pictures), in my opinion, just helps distract from real issues and keeps people in fear - and thus more malleable.
And, surely, if there was a rebellion with the military against the 'elite' - we'd hear from military personnel involved in it?? What good would keeping your oath be if you're trying to overpower the elites?
Again, not trying to be smart or obtuse, rather just trying to cut through the mountains of cr@p suddenly prevalent within the Alternative Community.
*edit - think we posted at the same time! That thread was the reason I began to question the sources of this story :)
Calz
28th September 2011, 11:00
I hear ya :ear:
This was the only reference to additional sites or tunnels being targeted I have heard.
I live in the midwest and I certainly have not felt or heard of any "explosions" so I have doubts about the additional targets.
Possible ... but we certainly are lacking anything solid to back this article up with.
math330
28th September 2011, 11:05
very possible!
The tunnels story could also be disinfo - maybe there really is something big happening, and while we're all talking about tunnels and not paying attention, 'they' go and do something else behind our backs ;)
Let's wait and see!
:)
jcocks
28th September 2011, 11:16
My gut feeling is that there IS a war going on under our feet, and it is "hotting up", beyond that is anyone's guess until we hear some trustworthy insider info.
daledo
28th September 2011, 14:27
Jagman asked me if I felt the quake in the midwest a few days ago... maybe he can elaborate on when this was in this thread?
Pete
28th September 2011, 15:24
You may not have seen Benjamin Fulford's recent offering, I think there may be some disinformation going on but it would appear that there are some unusual cooperative partnerships going on at the moment and there would appear to be some validity to the claims of destruction of the denver and washington bases.
http://reddragonleo.com/
All I can say is I hope it is happening. But as I have been told recently there's so much going on that maybe you have to let it unwind as it will, we are where we are meant to be and prepared mentally for any eventuality.
bring it on :cool:
HURRITT ENYETO
28th September 2011, 15:36
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.
The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.
That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.
IMHO
Hi Calz,
It is a misconception that quakes that start abruptly are not 'real'.
Just take a look at Randles thread about the volcano and take a look at how sudden those quakes appear.
There are different types of earthquakes, I'm no expert but i think they are called slip or strike quakes, ie very sudden with no build up.
Also the rock strata under Virginia and Colorado is known to transmit the energy of any quake much, much father than normal.
Hurritt
Calz
28th September 2011, 15:48
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.
The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.
That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.
IMHO
Hi Calz,
It is a misconception that quakes that start abruptly are not 'real'.
Just take a look at Randles thread about the volcano and take a look at how sudden those quakes appear.
There are different types of earthquakes, I'm no expert but i think they are called slip or strike quakes, ie very sudden with no build up.
Also the rock strata under Virginia and Colorado is known to transmit the energy of any quake much, much father than normal.
Hurritt
I have been in randles thread from the start.
The quakes there are many dozens per day and have been going on for months starting with mass quantities of "micro quakes".
I am no expert on quakes by any means either and perhaps I will need to look deeper.
That said ... both the Virginia and Colorado quakes had no quakes leading up to them. Most quakes have a few of lesser magnitude building up to the "big one". That is what is unusual ... not the "suddeness" rather the lack of any signs of activity going into the quake.
As mentioned there are other abnormalities as well.
I do appreciate your input.
We all need to cut through the sh*t more than ever now with so much being dumped out there on the net these days.
Cal
norman
28th September 2011, 15:57
No idea but *IF* the initial story regarding Colorado and Virginia are true then it would make sense to follow.
There are many many underground bases worldwide most connected. If the cabal lost their 2 prime bunkers then there would still be plenty of options given a little time.
"IF" this stuff is real, we should expect to find that the people who's first choice sanctuaries are lost, will be making travel plans to new locations.
Perhaps Pine Gap or whatever. Keep your eyes peeled for such signs.
Pete
28th September 2011, 16:03
they need a trip down the "tunnel of love"
Calz
28th September 2011, 16:06
they need a trip down the "tunnel of love"
Well ... you have to appreciate your attitude ... and with such a cute avatar how can we resist???
:bathbaby:
Maia Gabrial
28th September 2011, 16:18
For what's it's worth, I hope it's REALLY true. It would be a downright shame if the troublemakers got to hide while the rest of the population had to face whatever happens on the surface. IMO I'd say seal them ALL! Unless the rest of us can be saved down there, too. No if's, and's or but's about it....
jagman
28th September 2011, 16:26
Jagman asked me if I felt the quake in the midwest a few days ago... maybe he can elaborate on when this was in this thread?
Im not sure how much info I have but there was a 3.8 quake I think thursday last
week in MO. I am not sure where the epicenter was? I felt a slight shaking for a few seconds!
doodah
28th September 2011, 16:41
I live in Virginia. On August 23rd my whole house swayed gently back and forth like a cake on a plate that was moved side to side.
What's missing from this quake story is the stories of peoples' ANIMALS alerting them to the quake. There aren't any of those stories. There are hair-trigger dogs penned up across the road -- not a peep out of them. This suggests to me that there were no pre-shocks for the animals to pick up, and that the nuke graph is probably true. Also, initial reports stated that the depth of the quake was VERY shallow, less than the 3 miles later reported.
Just sayin'...
WyoSeeker
28th September 2011, 17:17
My inner skeptic is asking if there's a 'real' news link to any of this?
Is Presscore.ca a reliable news source or is this a constructed story?
There is an "About" page for them that is pretty informative:
http://presscore.ca/2011/?page_id=2
The new site looks legit. The author of the story is "PC" which is described this way:
"All reports and stories authored as PC annotates PRESS Core submissions from either registered users or through email. Out of fear of reprisal the author(s) has asked to remain anonymous."
No further sources cited in the story to investigate.
math330
28th September 2011, 21:38
thanks Wyo :)
I couldn't find much else about them, just a quote from another site saying they're 'non-profit'... which can only be a good thing I guess
http://www.andrewleunginternationalconsultants.com/new/2011/04/car-that-runs-on-nothing-but-water-unveiled-in-japan.html
I'm thinking the PC byline is 'Presscore'?
Billy
28th September 2011, 21:50
If they need any help digging them out, give me a call :phone:
stegosaur
28th September 2011, 22:41
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.
The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.
That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.
IMHO
A couple of things and please don't take this personally because it's not. But as a geologist there are some blatantly false statements here that must be corrected.
1) Virginia and Colorado are chock full of fault lines. I think people commonly confuse a lack of activity for a complete lack of faults - just because they ain't movin on human time scales doesn't mean they ain't there. Think about it: The rocky mountains formed by literally being thrust up from the ground. Anywhere in the world there are mountains, there are faults, it's as simple as that. Likewise for Virginia and the east coast, again, there you have remnants of the Appalachian and Blue Ridge mountains. Active displacement on faults (i.e. EQs) on the east coast is much less common because it's not currently in an active state of compression like a convergent coastline is such as Chile, Himalayas, Japan etc. Faulting on the east coast was likely the result of isostatic rebound (literally the entire area covered by miles thick ice from the last ice age is slowly rebounding, or moving upwards in response to the melting of the last ice sheet, it just happens on time scales most people never conceive or think on).
2) There is no such thing as a 'buildup' signature in a seismograph before an earthquake. Believe me if there was, it would have already been discovered - this is basically the holy grail of EQ seismology, i.e. being able to predict EQs before they happen. Microcracks are observed and recorded in small-scale lab experiments where cores of rocks are subjected to increasing stress until they fracture, but this process does not scale up to earth-sized (i.e. plate tectonic) spatial scales. I think this misconception occurs because people don't understand how waves travel through the earth. Any type of seismogenic event generates three types of waves: 1) P or Primary Waves, 2) S or Shear/Secondary waves and finally 3) Surface or body/ground roll waves. P waves and S waves move in fundamentally different ways and consequently travel through the earth at different speeds: for a P-wave, particle displacement occurs in the plane of motion while for an S-wave particle displacement occurs perpendicular to wave propagation (i.e. shearing motion). As a quick aside, liquids can't support a shear stress, so S-waves cannot travel through liquids - this is how we know the outer core is liquid. Now, P waves travel faster than S waves, hence the primary/secondary designation. The further away a seismograph is from an epicenter (or the EQ location) the further apart P and S waves will arrive on a Seismograph. What's actually really funny is the article that cites 'a lack of prebuildup' shows a seismograph from Washington and Lee university, which happens to be my alma mater. It's located in Lexington VA (A very beautiful part of the country I might add) but more to the point it's located very close to the epicenter of the DC EQ, so the P and S wave arrival times are smashed together and to the untrained eye, it's impossible to tell one arrival from the other. Now in an EQ, the actual shaking felt isn't from the P wave, the S wave but the body/ground roll wave - which literally propagates as a wave on the earths surface and travels the slowest. Again, because the cited seismograph was so close to the epicenter for the DC EQ again the arrival of three separate waves are all smashed together, giving the illusion of an underground explosion when in fact it's one of the worst examples of cherry picking a data point to support a crackpot theory. I will guarantee that the same seismograph, on the same day, was able to record the three separate wavefronts from the Denver EQ by virtue of being geographically far enough away from the epicenter. Think about it this way, line up a 300 lb man and usain bolt. 1 inch from the starting line, there won't be much separation between the two - but have them run 100 yards and then do you think it will possible to tell who gets there first? You bet. Same idea for P, S and ground waves.
Now, underground nuclear explosions can be differentiated from natural EQs, and this system is setup worldwide - it's complicated and requires the cooperation of seismographs and seismologists from around the world. Frankly it'd be impossible to hide or pass off a nuclear explosion as a natural EQ given the scope of the worldwide network. The Washington and Colorado EQs were natural, there is no conspiracy (this time) and should seriously call into question how legit Fulford and Wilcock are - we can't waste time listening to cranks in trying to figure what is ACTUALLY going on in the world.
Calz
29th September 2011, 01:21
I live in Virginia. On August 23rd my whole house swayed gently back and forth like a cake on a plate that was moved side to side.
What's missing from this quake story is the stories of peoples' ANIMALS alerting them to the quake. There aren't any of those stories. There are hair-trigger dogs penned up across the road -- not a peep out of them. This suggests to me that there were no pre-shocks for the animals to pick up, and that the nuke graph is probably true. Also, initial reports stated that the depth of the quake was VERY shallow, less than the 3 miles later reported.
Just sayin'...
Thank you for adding that.
Yes that is good "circumstantial evidence". Perhaps not yet proof ... but "adding another log on the fire".
Animals *always* know.
Calz
29th September 2011, 01:40
There is somewhat compelling data to suggest the original Virginia and Colorado earthquakes were actually not quakes.
The graghs showing no buildup, the areas not having faultlines and the distance at which some people felt them.
That is not "proof" ... but certainly merits more investigation.
IMHO
A couple of things and please don't take this personally because it's not. But as a geologist there are some blatantly false statements here that must be corrected.
1) Virginia and Colorado are chock full of fault lines. I think people commonly confuse a lack of activity for a complete lack of faults - just because they ain't movin on human time scales doesn't mean they ain't there.
...
Now, underground nuclear explosions can be differentiated from natural EQs, and this system is setup worldwide - it's complicated and requires the cooperation of seismographs and seismologists from around the world. Frankly it'd be impossible to hide or pass off a nuclear explosion as a natural EQ given the scope of the worldwide network. The Washington and Colorado EQs were natural, there is no conspiracy (this time) and should seriously call into question how legit Fulford and Wilcock are - we can't waste time listening to cranks in trying to figure what is ACTUALLY going on in the world.
Excellent.
Thank you for adding that. Nothing personal taken on my behalf anyway.
Coming from the field I would have to defer to your expertise then.
Taurean
29th September 2011, 01:49
Still, If the Dulce massacre was for real, then they managed to keep the lid on that for long enough.
Calz
29th September 2011, 01:54
Dutchsinse's suggestion of the two quakes being on a subduction line made sense as well.
WhiteFeather
29th September 2011, 02:22
Read this Blog By David Wilcock An interview with Benjamin Fulford, it describes, connects some major dots and ties in alot of resourceful info with respect to the DUMBS. Deep Underground Military Bases. A must read Avie's.
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
stegosaur
29th September 2011, 15:02
Glad to hear - I can talk about rocks until I'm blue in the face :-) And I love to teach people about it - it's just that sometimes I worry my 'tone' might not come off as me trying to teach or spread knowledge. (this is why I've always preferred talking face to face)
Calz
29th September 2011, 15:12
Glad to hear - I can talk about rocks until I'm blue in the face :-) And I love to teach people about it - it's just that sometimes I worry my 'tone' might not come off as me trying to teach or spread knowledge. (this is why I've always preferred talking face to face)
Face to face is good ... eye contact and all.
Your reference to many faultlines I have to *assume* would be small ones rather than *major* faultlines to which most of the rest of us would recognize.
As I mentioned in a one-liner post soon after yours, Dutchsinse suggested both quakes were on a subduction zone and thus, even though rare for those two areas, an explanation for why they occured.
Don't remember which of his vids that was in ... but do you concur???
Thanks again for your input.
Cal
RMorgan
29th September 2011, 15:14
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??
Those guys should be feeling like this right now:
- Hey B, what´s up?
- Dude, someone fuc**ed up our bunkers!
- That´s ok dude, I didn´t like the decoration anyway...
- Yeah, me too. To hell with that!
- Ok. So now I will be forced to go to Rio with family, you know...
- Yeah, good idea! I heard they just opened an amazing golf club there...
- Oh! Great! I´ll kick your ass again!!
- Hahaha! Let´s see...
- Hey! Remember that blond intern I told you about?
- Sure!!!
Calz
29th September 2011, 15:24
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??
Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???
For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.
Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.
That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.
RMorgan
29th September 2011, 15:28
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??
Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???
For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.
Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.
That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.
Well, but if a global cataclysmic event is planned by the PTB, they could make their move safely, before it happens. I´m sure they have safe places to hide all over the world.
Calz
29th September 2011, 15:36
PTB/W can do a great deal of mischief and yes they do, in fact, have the technology to destroy Gaia (provided "divine" or "watchers" intervention did not stop it).
Sometimes we give the PTB/W too much credit on their power or abilities.
I expect there are events well beyond their control or else they would not be so manic about building who knows how many bunkers???
If it was a controlled event (by them) that wouldn't be necessary ... as logic would follow.
My own opinion (worth as much as their paper money I suppose) is that the PTB/W have more to fear than the rest of us ...
Maia Gabrial
29th September 2011, 15:38
If they need any help digging them out, give me a call
I have a spoon for you, billyji. Good luck!
Pete
29th September 2011, 15:45
I think all the horror stories are going to turn out to be just that. I think that by sealing the bolt holes the rats are too scared to face whatever plan they may have been planning and now the only recourse for them is to create financial Armageddon.
nearing
29th September 2011, 16:02
TPTW are good as creating crisis, yes. But they are also adept at making the most of a natural catastrophe. It's the later scenario that I think they built their bunkers for and I'd those were blown up, they are sh****ng bricks right about now.
I believe they know something is coming and they built those in prep for it and now they are without a place to hide their hides.
Calz
29th September 2011, 16:09
TPTW are good as creating crisis, yes. But they are also adept at making the most of a natural catastrophe. It's the later scenario that I think they built their bunkers for and I'd those were blown up, they are sh****ng bricks right about now.
I believe they know something is coming and they built those in prep for it and now they are without a place to hide their hides.
Regardless of whether or not any of the bunkers have been blown (by whatever means) I think you are correct in that "they" are in a lot of fear.
They feel they have much to lose ... whereas those who understand the spiritual ballpark know the score ... and have nothing to fear.
"They" are coming to deal with "situations" ***well*** beyond their control and have ***no*** idea how to handle that since they have never had to in the (recent) past.
IMHO
stegosaur
29th September 2011, 22:15
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??
Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???
For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.
Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.
That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.
Howdy, Just wanted to let you know I'll answer your question soon but I've been on a 20 hour work bender. Need to go nap, and take a run. Once I do that, I'll be happy to look at the videos and address the fault question.
Take care.
WhiteFeather
29th September 2011, 22:21
The tides are a changing, TPTW ran out of tricks. Basically they are f.....ked without acheiving an orgasm. Hope this helps peeps. ~Be Love~
Ron Mauer Sr
30th September 2011, 02:44
Pure speculation here, but I wonder how the various levels of TPTW expect to be treated once underground. In return for their lies and deception to us and service to their masters, do they expect to be rewarded with truth and compassion? There may be little further use for those lower level politicians and underlings who have been selling out their fellow humans. Richard Hoagland said the lie is different at every level. Another whistleblower (don't remember who) said "Once underground, no one is safe."
Perhaps this is being harsh, but I wonder if the dark side ET's will corral an underground food supply large enough to last for many banquets.
Maia Gabrial
1st October 2011, 14:32
TPTW are good as creating crisis, yes. But they are also adept at making the most of a natural catastrophe. It's the later scenario that I think they built their bunkers for and I'd those were blown up, they are sh****ng bricks right about now.
I believe they know something is coming and they built those in prep for it and now they are without a place to hide their hides.
I agree with you, nearing. I think they KNOW what's coming and it's scaring the crap out of them. Also, I think none of US have to worry about it because it won't affect us the way it will THEM....That's just my opionion....
nearing
1st October 2011, 17:07
TPTW are good as creating crisis, yes. But they are also adept at making the most of a natural catastrophe. It's the later scenario that I think they built their bunkers for and I'd those were blown up, they are sh****ng bricks right about now.
I believe they know something is coming and they built those in prep for it and now they are without a place to hide their hides.
I agree with you, nearing. I think they KNOW what's coming and it's scaring the crap out of them. Also, I think none of US have to worry about it because it won't affect us the way it will THEM....That's just my opionion....
That's right. They are living with the emotion that they like to instill in us. Sort of backfiring on them, me thinks. ;)
DNA
2nd October 2011, 05:23
Astrid posted this vid folks in Tennesee hearing mysterious booms echoing through the country and valleys.
Since her thread seemed to ask questions that are not offering the specualtion we are here, I didn't think it was of poor manner to post it here rather than thread jack her thread and steer it towards a direction she wasn't intending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gfmAZi5Z88&feature=player_embedded
Could these booms be part of the "tunnel wars" Wilcock and Fullford speculated on?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_area51/tunnels_aliens.gif
Humble Janitor
2nd October 2011, 08:26
Well, this approach seems to be very simplistic and limited to me. Those guys are powerful, so why should they bother with some destroyed bunkers if they can catch their private jets and hide anywhere in the world, anytime they want??
Well ... the theory would go that when/if any global, possibly extinction level event occurs then perhaps air travel would no longer be possible???
For example ... yellowstone (or other supervolcano) blows and not long afterwards the ash cloud will surround the globe.
Taking away the long planned safe havens from any potential earth change events of that magnitude would (again in theory) put the elite on the same playing field as the rest of us.
That would complicate the alleged motives to kill off 90+% of the population.
Well, but if a global cataclysmic event is planned by the PTB, they could make their move safely, before it happens. I´m sure they have safe places to hide all over the world.
I wouldn't call these DUMBs "safe" places because hopefully the ground will open up and swallow these bastards if they even get close to their DUMBs.
They're all animals. There's nothing "elite" about them.
Andre
4th October 2011, 09:03
I read an update on the David Wilcox forum that the Virginia and D.C. explosions were sonic blasts, not nuclear explosions using a completely unknown technology.
My understanding is that this strike was one (elite) faction taking out another faction.
This whole scenario reminds me of something a great master (guru) in India said about 30 years ago. He said,
"In the past, great wars were fought between good and evil. But in your lifetime you will see great wars of evil destroying evil so do not get involved."
Wise words me thinks.
Calz
4th October 2011, 10:29
I got this in an email from a friend. Appears to be an update from the BF site with a comment from DW.
Note - it appears *not* to include the paid portion of BF blog so will include it here.
Notice DW and BF do not agree on all points (and I am sure many avalon members don't agree with either on this issue).
For your discrimination:
Ben Fulford:
The pole-shift in global financial power is almost complete
The process of removing the cabal that has controlled most of the world for the past 300 years is almost complete, according to sources directly involved in the takedown. The takedown is being done by the world's military, police and intelligence agencies. The group being taken down is the Thule Society, Skull&Bones Nazi conglomerate headed by George Bush Senior. This group was trying to start world war 3 in order to reduce the world's population by 85% and start a fascist world government. Instead, they will be bankrupted and put in jail. Evidence of the takedown is now becoming visible for all to see. For example the IMF, supposedly the world's lender of last resort, is saying they have no money to help the Euro. This is publicly available evidence that the post war power structure is ending. The best way to understand what is happening is to take a look at this map:
(more at link for paid subscribers)
http://benjaminfulford.net/2011/10/03/the-pole-shift-in-global-financial-power-is-almost-complete/
Comment by David Wilcock:
I can confirm from my own contacts that very few, if any lives were lost in the destruction of the underground bases. Ben is right. This is another good proof that we're both hearing the same things.
Apparently for 24 hours before there was an explosion in either case, audio recordings that have now been recovered from the bases have the sounds of massive amounts of furniture sliding across the floor and people yelling. It appears that portals were opened up in the bases and they just pulled everything out personnel, equipment and everything in between. There is no "stuff" left in what remains. All the supplies are gone.
However, where my sources disagree with Ben is that they are saying there is no radioactivity. Nukes were NOT used. Instead, it was a 20-fold spontaneous increase in air pressure, after everything had been pulled out for this 24-hour period.
Many of the personnel working in these bases were brought in during the 1970s, and are forbidden to ever walk the surface of the Earth again. This is all part of the update I'm working on for my website, Divine Cosmos, right now.
Ben has people who are closer to the actual negotiations than I'm able to hear from right now, but I do agree with him that it seems we are very close.
The biggest part he's NOT seeing, apparently though, is that most of the old guard in Washington DC and thereabouts is planning on fleeing, en masse, to South America once this all happens. They've been using so many military aircraft to do this in the last three and a half weeks that it is delaying the return of soldiers discharged from Afghanistan. Then, as a good-bye present, they are planning on detonating charges planted in bridges and airstrips all over the country. The governors of each state have the sole control of the detonators so I am told.
They are hoping that this will weaken society enough to create hunger, riots and chaos. I have revealed these plans at my own risk because I believe they can be stopped. The charges were put in place by workers who drilled into the concrete to test its strength, and put "detectors" in there to check on the integrity, the water vapor, et cetera. The "detectors" were then cemented in place. These "detectors" are actually charges that can be detonated remotely, but the workers never knew that.
Apparently, other charges were installed from the beginning of the Eisenhower Interstate System. Small cubbyholes were put in, ostensibly to give a view of the interior, but in reality they were made for these charges to be installed. The plan has been around for a long time and remember, Eisenhower was also made aware of the ET presence, and warned of the rise of the military-industrial complex in his closing speech. At that point he probably already knew about the bridge charges, and that was one of his concerns.
I hope Ben and the people he is working with can anticipate this move and deactivate many, if not all of them, so the rest of the world can merely laugh at me and say I'm full of ****, which is much better than the alternative.
- David Wilcock
Comment by dwilcock on October 4, 2011
*** adding ***
Appears Wilcock will soon be updating his story ...
NOTE SUNDAY 10/2: There have been significant new developments, including good intel that as many as six additional bases were destroyed soon after the first two. A massive new article is underway but may not be out until midweek, due to several important factors at work. Hang in there!]
http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
onawah
7th October 2011, 05:39
MASSIVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS: THURSDAY 10/6 from David Wilcock's site:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
"This week, there have been MASSIVE new developments to this story that have forced another round of serious consultations with our key insiders. Part II is mostly finished, but the story is changing faster than we can write it.
I am not permitted to go into specifics, but I can now comfortably say that in addition to the first 8, MANY additional bases have now had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture.
I know this sounds ridiculous, but this is the situation. Apparently no one has died from any of these incidents. Audio recordings reveal the sounds of furniture sliding all over the place and people yelling for up to 24 hours before it stops.
I also had one of my most trusted sources independently confirm that the Monaco Accords did take place. When I asked why this was never mentioned before, I was told that until I asked the right questions, revealing that I already knew the answers, nothing could be said.
I must admit that since the sources who revealed this latest development to me have demonstrated profound trustworthiness, I was so overwhelmed about the news of the sheer number of bases that have now been affected by this campaign that I burst into tears.
I don't know how long it will take for the results of all this to be public for everyone, but it most definitely appears that the Old World Order are being forced to surrender by the same ETs that have systematically protected us from nuclear holocaust.]"
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
I keep having hilarious slapstick visions of Illuminati and furniture being sucked out of the DUMBs.
I can relax now about this story since it has been "confirmed" there were no nukes used.
Whether ANY of it turns out to be true or not...
I'm enjoying the slapstick fantasies a lot! :clap2: :amen: :lol: :laugh:
Here's someone pulling the lever to suck out the DUMB :lever: LOL!!!
Though I don't imagine those guys are going to be happy campers now if they're really back on the surface.:tsk::pout:
onawah
7th October 2011, 06:04
:bump2::bump2: More DUMB sucking!
Calz
7th October 2011, 11:53
MASSIVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS: THURSDAY 10/6 from David Wilcock's site:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
Thanks for the update.
Quite clearly DW believes this to be the truth.
(or certainly believes in his sources)
FWIW.
eric charles
7th October 2011, 12:38
I realy respect David Wilcock in his research , all his films GREAT WORK , but when it comes to insider news like this I call B.S . He consults/converses with Benjamin Fullford wich in my honest opinion lies through his teeth on a regular basis !
Like ive previously said , when it comes to insider news , it is to be taken with a huge grain of salt , until the whole thing materialises before our eyes , anything is possible , and to listen to everyone on the net is just ludicrous .
Calz
7th October 2011, 12:59
I like thinking outside of the box ... but a multidimensional vacuum cleaner is pushing the envelope :)
Quite the hoot if it was somehow true.
Strange times.
RMorgan
7th October 2011, 13:09
"When I asked why this was never mentioned before, I was told that until I asked the right questions, revealing that I already knew the answers, nothing could be said."
Why all these "insiders" keep behaving like characters from Hollywood movies??
ceetee9
7th October 2011, 13:25
Pure speculation here, but I wonder how the various levels of TPTW expect to be treated once underground. In return for their lies and deception to us and service to their masters, do they expect to be rewarded with truth and compassion? There may be little further use for those lower level politicians and underlings who have been selling out their fellow humans. Richard Hoagland said the lie is different at every level. Another whistleblower (don't remember who) said "Once underground, no one is safe."
Perhaps this is being harsh, but I wonder if the dark side ET's will corral an underground food supply large enough to last for many banquets.Exactly rmauersr! This is the one thing I truly don't understand about those who foolishly believe that by pledging their allegiance to those who have zero respect for anyone or anything that those same psychopath masters will miraculously grow a heart and have compassion or use for them once they are no longer needed. It's truly a no win situation for both the psychopaths and their minions in the end.
¤=[Post Update]=¤
"When I asked why this was never mentioned before, I was told that until I asked the right questions, revealing that I already knew the answers, nothing could be said."
Why all these "insiders" keep behaving like characters from Hollywood movies??Perhaps it's because they are.
WhiteFeather
7th October 2011, 13:53
The DUMBS (deep underground military bases) bases are being destroyed and sealed off, we know this now. But whom are destroying/sealing off these underground bases, I truly believe we are getting some intervention/assistance from our benevolent star friends peeps. This resonates with me without a doubt.
Phil Schneider, a very brave man, recently lost his life due to what appeared to be a military-style execution in January 1996. He was found dead in his apartment with piano wire still wrapped around his neck. According to some sources, he had been brutally tortured repeated before being killed. Phil Schneider was an ex-government engineer who was involved in building underground bases. He was one of three people to survive the 1979 fire fight between the large Greys and U.S. intelligence and military forces at Dulce underground base.
In May 1995, Phil Schneider did a lecture on what he had discovered. Seven months later he was tortured and killed by those for whom he had previously worked. This man's final acts should not go unnoticed...
More Here: http://www.subversiveelement.com/dulceschneider.html
onawah
7th October 2011, 17:54
I think everyone who is following this story is taking it with a huge grain of salt, but DW has more contacts than Ben Fulford and I would imagine, given how much networking he does and the number of whistleblowers and insiders he must know, at least SOME of them must be credible.
The jury will certainly be out on this story for awhile, until some definite proof emerges, but I'm finding it quite fun to entertain the idea that it MIGHT be true.
There is no question that there are ETs who have all sorts of technology we can't even begin to imagine, so I have no qualms about the idea of some sort of air pressure device that could harmlessly force people and objects out of the DUMBs. They can remotely shut down nuclear devices, so why not this?
And we know there is lots of infighting among the various Illuminati factions.
And that there are ETs who are assisting us in the most compassionate, non invasive ways that they can, using persuasion as opposed to force as much as possible.
So I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility that there is some truth in this story.
But we can all pretty much agree that only time will tell.
Sidney
7th October 2011, 18:12
Well September 27, (and 28 and 29) have come and gone, just like many other prophesized dates. Now, they are saying that October 11, is the pole shift, etc, bla bla. These dates come and go, we get scared (or hopeful), then nothing happens, then someone else come up with another doomsday date. We will never know what,where or when,or how, until it actually happens. All we can do is prepare, and try to live our lives the best we can until "death do us part". : )
RMorgan
7th October 2011, 18:22
Well September 27, (and 28 and 29) have come and gone, just like many other prophesized dates. Now, they are saying that October 11, is the pole shift, etc, bla bla. These dates come and go, we get scared (or hopeful), then nothing happens, then someone else come up with another doomsday date. We will never know what,where or when,or how, until it actually happens. All we can do is prepare, and try to live our lives the best we can until "death do us part". : )
I agree, and I must say that a poleshift is something that happens very slowly. It will not happen in just one day, by any means. IF, it happened in just one day, the whole planet would collapse and most part of life on Earth would be extinguished instantly.
Yes. The magnetic poles are moving, but there´s no indication that the complete inversion will happen any time soon.
I´ve been following this subject for a long time. I´ve got some very good compasses here. During the last five years, I´ve been tracking those movements, comparing the compass with fixed positions and references on the horizon, and I must say that the magnetic north has moved, but just a tiny tiny bit, at least by naked eye.
I don´t buy any prediction with a date. A date is just a date, part of an artificial, human made calendar, which is not even accurate.
The North magnetic pole has moved steadily northward at an average rate of 10 kilometers per year since it was first located in 1831:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/NASA_54556main_nmppath2001_med.gif
Again, this is a natural phenomenon, that´s always happened, and will always happen, but it takes a looooong time for the poles to actually shift.
Sidney
7th October 2011, 18:30
Yup, I couldn't agree more!!! : )
Ba-ba-Ra
7th October 2011, 19:35
Well September 27, (and 28 and 29) have come and gone, just like many other prophesized dates. Now, they are saying that October 11, is the pole shift, etc, bla bla. These dates come and go, we get scared (or hopeful), then nothing happens, then someone else come up with another doomsday date. We will never know what,where or when,or how, until it actually happens. All we can do is prepare, and try to live our lives the best we can until "death do us part". : )
I agree, and I must say that a poleshift is something that happens very slowly. It will not happen in just one day, by any means. IF, it happened in just one day, the whole planet would collapse and most part of life on Earth would be extinguished instantly.
Yes. The magnetic poles are moving, but there´s no indication that the complete inversion will happen any time soon.
I´ve been following this subject for a long time. I´ve got some very good compasses here. During the last five years, I´ve been tracking those movements, comparing the compass with fixed positions and references on the horizon, and I must say that the magnetic north has moved, but just a tiny tiny bit, at least by naked eye.
I don´t buy any prediction with a date. A date is just a date, part of an artificial, human made calendar, which is not even accurate.
The North magnetic pole has moved steadily northward at an average rate of 10 kilometers per year since it was first located in 1831:
Yes, But do note that according to NASA website http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/29dec_magneticfield/:
The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating "to 40 km per year,".
This recent acceleration of the pole is IMHO something to take into account.
As for the earthquakes in Denver & Virginia (even though they may be on fault lines) to me they are still highly suspicious as to the synchronistic timing and depth, and the fact that both were in areas where DUMBS have for some years been reported to be. Many ET groups (through channeling) have taken credit for the events. Do I believe them?!?! Do I believe DW or BF?!?!?
However, i still feel something unusual happened in those places - and for the life of me, I can't imagine it was anything bad from the masses perspective, so I'm concluding it was something good. Perhaps just being the eternal optimist. I would like to say time will tell, but history has shown me that this might not be in my earth lifetime.
onawah
10th October 2011, 02:04
It was Teloc, who claims to be in contact with a group known as the Andromedan Council, who said that sonic weapons were used, in the interviews with him conducted by Alfred L. Webre.
It was David Wilcock (after his interview with Ben Fulford, who said that nukes were used) who later stated that other insiders had told him some sort of air pressure device was used.
Fulford said it was one elite faction taking out another.
Teloc said it was benevolent ETs taking out negative ETs, but didn't say anything about humans.
Wilcock in his second report said that possibly benevolent ETs were assisting humans in removing humans and/or negative ETs ( the latter wasn't specified), but was done without harm to them. He said in the second report the bases were not destroyed, but were just emptied.
This was DW's last update from:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
(You can also read the original interview transcript with Fulford at that link)
"NOTE THURSDAY 10/6: MASSIVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS: This week, there have been MASSIVE new developments to this story that have forced another round of serious consultations with our key insiders. Part II is mostly finished, but the story is changing faster than we can write it.
I am not permitted to go into specifics, but I can now comfortably say that in addition to the first 8, MANY additional bases have now had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture.
I know this sounds ridiculous, but this is the situation. Apparently no one has died from any of these incidents. Audio recordings reveal the sounds of furniture sliding all over the place and people yelling for up to 24 hours before it stops.
I also had one of my most trusted sources independently confirm that the Monaco Accords did take place. When I asked why this was never mentioned before, I was told that until I asked the right questions, revealing that I already knew the answers, nothing could be said.
I must admit that since the sources who revealed this latest development to me have demonstrated profound trustworthiness, I was so overwhelmed about the news of the sheer number of bases that have now been affected by this campaign that I burst into tears.
I don't know how long it will take for the results of all this to be public for everyone, but it most definitely appears that the Old World Order are being forced to surrender by the same ETs that have systematically protected us from nuclear holocaust."
This is from Alfred L. Webre's site:
http://www.exopolitics.com/
"“And in the cleanup process down on Earth, various affiliated Andromeda Council races, especially those from Procyon, used highly focused sonic energy beams to bust-up & collapse underground bases including the ones around your nation’s capital leading up to the hills in Virginia, ones in Colorado, and northern New Mexico. Again, these were highly focused, pinpointed, sonic energy beam blasts meant to cripple the tunnel systems & underground bases where the Greys & Reptilians have been hiding. They had been warned many, many times to leave, and didn’t. So, a positive intervention. My contacts called these tunnels & base a “lattice network”. They’re destroyed, collapsed & inoperable... and closed off. These were not nuclear blasts. They said, and I quote: “ we would never used nuclear weapons, we don’t need to. We are far beyond this kind of technology. Moreover, use of nuclear weapons would absolutely endanger the lives of the people on the planet surface. And, even worse, nuclear radiation is poisonous to all humans, to all life on Earth. These were not nuclear weapons but highly focused, pin-pointed, sonic energy beam blasts.”
The Andromeda Council’s goal is to eliminate as many of these remaining ‘rats under the wood pile’ as soon as possible... before your migration & complete immersion into the 4th dimensional area of space. As I’ve mentioned, we are about 90-92% complete in the wrapping up of the ‘cleanup’ phase of the last holdouts of these Grey & Reptilian menaces here on Earth."
Just to be clear...
I read an update on the David Wilcox forum that the Virginia and D.C. explosions were sonic blasts, not nuclear explosions using a completely unknown technology.
My understanding is that this strike was one (elite) faction taking out another faction.
This whole scenario reminds me of something a great master (guru) in India said about 30 years ago. He said,
"In the past, great wars were fought between good and evil. But in your lifetime you will see great wars of evil destroying evil so do not get involved."
Wise words me thinks.
Calz
10th October 2011, 02:12
In the vid below posted by Snowbird, James Horak seems to be on board with the underground base sealings.
It was Teloc, who claims to be in contact with a group known as the Andromedan Council, who said that sonic weapons were used, in the interviews with him conducted by Alfred L. Webre.
It was David Wilcock (after his interview with Ben Fulford, who said that nukes were used) who later stated that other insiders had told him some sort of air pressure device was used.
Fulford said it was one elite faction taking out another.
Teloc said it was benevolent ETs taking out negative ETs, but didn't say anything about humans.
Wilcock in his second report said that possibly benevolent ETs were assisting humans in removing humans and/or negative ETs ( the latter wasn't specified), but was done without harm to them. He said in the second report the bases were not destroyed, but were just emptied.
Just to be clear...
I read an update on the David Wilcox forum that the Virginia and D.C. explosions were sonic blasts, not nuclear explosions using a completely unknown technology.
My understanding is that this strike was one (elite) faction taking out another faction.
This whole scenario reminds me of something a great master (guru) in India said about 30 years ago. He said,
"In the past, great wars were fought between good and evil. But in your lifetime you will see great wars of evil destroying evil so do not get involved."
Wise words me thinks.
It is interesting to read through the varied intelligent responses within threads concerning our status with our off-Earth neighbors. This topic is so huge! And, this topic depends upon the views and interpretations of each poster as to our potential possible cosmic future(s).
IF, those who appear to have intentions of remaining on Earth through the upcoming cosmic shift and transformation or upliftment, very soon find themselves in an upgraded environment with tremendous potential for long-lasting good, will this be enough for you? In other words, what I'm reading from some people, is some sort of rough and tumble desire to remain on the 3D Earth even after the many tumultuous upheavals, to clean it up and make it better than it is because we, humanity have caused all these problems. What IF you folks find yourselves on a much improved Earth environment? Is this a possibility within you? I'm just wondering.
From my understanding, and I am no expert here, there will remain a 3D Earth that has enormous and massive changes. On this 3D Earth, there will remain those humans who have been and still are to this day, stuck in service-to-self mentality. IMO, this is the reason that all of the underground facilities were built and stocked. And, the seed banks. These were to house, feed and perpetuate these service-to-self humans.
Below, James Horak talks about Do You Wish That We Show Up. He also understands that without their help, the people of Earth most likely will not make it through this. Please give your comments.
No Hope without Help
VUngzJM_v70
http://emvsinfo.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00:00:00Z&updated-max=2012-01-01T00:00:00Z&max-results=12
onawah
10th October 2011, 02:37
The way that Mr. Horak talks reminds me so much of Fred Rogers, of the famous childrens' TV show, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.
Such a very strange neighborhood he's showing us in the video, however.
Certainly not one I would want to live in, and I don't think I would care for the neighbors.
I don't hear any kind of facts, however, just a lot of conjecture, and a boast that he had an inkling 5 years ago that Elenin was going to show up now.
He vaguely implies that Elenin had something to do with the alleged ETs who sealed off the underground tunnels--that they arrived on Elenin, is what he is seeming to say.
It seems to me he is working hard to make people believe that he really knows something, but IMHO, and judging from this, he doesn't know much.
We're not all as gullible as Mr. Roger's little neighbors.
I think he will have to do better than that.
Calz
10th October 2011, 06:35
MASSIVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS: THURSDAY 10/6 from David Wilcock's site:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
"This week, there have been MASSIVE new developments to this story that have forced another round of serious consultations with our key insiders. Part II is mostly finished, but the story is changing faster than we can write it.
I am not permitted to go into specifics, but I can now comfortably say that in addition to the first 8, MANY additional bases have now had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture.
I know this sounds ridiculous, but this is the situation. Apparently no one has died from any of these incidents. Audio recordings reveal the sounds of furniture sliding all over the place and people yelling for up to 24 hours before it stops.
I also had one of my most trusted sources independently confirm that the Monaco Accords did take place. When I asked why this was never mentioned before, I was told that until I asked the right questions, revealing that I already knew the answers, nothing could be said.
I must admit that since the sources who revealed this latest development to me have demonstrated profound trustworthiness, I was so overwhelmed about the news of the sheer number of bases that have now been affected by this campaign that I burst into tears.
I don't know how long it will take for the results of all this to be public for everyone, but it most definitely appears that the Old World Order are being forced to surrender by the same ETs that have systematically protected us from nuclear holocaust.]"
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
I keep having hilarious slapstick visions of Illuminati and furniture being sucked out of the DUMBs.
I can relax now about this story since it has been "confirmed" there were no nukes used.
Whether ANY of it turns out to be true or not...
I'm enjoying the slapstick fantasies a lot! :clap2: :amen: :lol: :laugh:
Here's someone pulling the lever to suck out the DUMB :lever: LOL!!!
Though I don't imagine those guys are going to be happy campers now if they're really back on the surface.:tsk::pout:
Short update from DW explaining the delay in the forthcoming article mentioned in the 10/6 update:
NOTE SUNDAY 10/10: I am sorry that I did not get a chance to update this article when I said I would. In the past week I have left home on two different occasions for extremely important meetings, both of which have highly positive ramifications.
These meetings and locations were completely different, but have some commonalities. In the first case I made the decision within 24 hours of when I departed, and in the second case I literally woke up, got the message, made the decision and was on a plane within four hours.
I apologize for being circumspect, but for security reasons I cannot disclose what either of these meetings are about. Suffice it to say that I am still working on the next article and intend to release it ASAP, though the thrust of the new info is in the above updates.]
http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
onawah
10th October 2011, 07:03
There's a new article which I copied in the post here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32226-Fall-of-the-Illuminati-Appears-Near&p=328604#post328604
but it's very insubstantial as far as any new information goes, and includes quite a lot of rehashed channeled info.
Hopefully David Wilcock will have something more soon.
It does sound like he is working on it.
onawah
12th October 2011, 06:58
This was posted on another thread, but I'd like to keep this one updated.
http://stevebeckow.com/2011/10/benjamin-fulford-update-10-11-11/
Benjamin Fulford Update 10-11-11
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com
2011 October 11
by Pat Donworth
When the Asians decided to wage financial war against the criminal cabal that has taken over the West and was plotting unprecedented genocide, the cabalists were warned that it would just be a matter of time before they faced lynch mobs in their own countries. That time is fast approaching. The non-stop protests against the cabalists in the US and the impending doom of the Euro are just the visible part of a global movement to remove these parasitic scum from the body politic of the West. The invisible part involves control of codes and high tech “black screens,” that are used to manage the international financial system. Here multiple sources say that bank accounts meant for the use of humanity as a whole but taken over by private interests will be seized. As a part of this move, the control of the US dollar will be taken away from the privately owned Washington D.C. Corporation and moved to Switzerland. There it will be managed by the nations of the earth. Given these circumstances, the United States would be well advised to create a new greenback for their own use.
The latest twist in this financial war is the news that David Eisenhower, the son of president Eisenhower, has been a key front man for the cabal within the Bank of International Settlements.
Eisenhower has illegally placed 10 Kennedy bonds he does not own into something known as a “trading program.” “Trading programs” are an esoteric financial scam set up by Henry Kissinger. They basically are fake “mirror accounts” of real funds that are used to recycle public money into private hands. The private individuals accessing money this way have no legal right to it. Thus Eisenhower is using bonds issued in the name of the US government for private purposes even though he has no legal right to do so. Another word for such activity is fraud.
Through these “programs,” money that was meant to be used for humanity as a whole was thus instead hijacked by private interests such as the Rothschilds, the Bushes etc.
The people in on this scam include the Bushes, the Clintons, the Obamas, Alan Greenspan and the other usual suspects.
The nations of the world have now been notified about this scam. One consequence of this is that the government of Ireland has been asking bankers who are trying to force the Irish to pay huge amounts of “debt,” to prove the bankers had the legal right to create this debt in the first place. They do not.
Greece is now contemplating a similar move. This same legal maneuver would eliminate much of the US private and public debt as well.
Legal action against these high level fraudsters may begin late this week or early next week. At stake in one lawsuit is control of funds worth $371 trillion. This money was pooled after World War 2 by the non-aligned nations and meant to be spent on the development of Africa and Asia but was instead hijacked by the above-mentioned gangsters.
The Rothschilds have already contacted the White Dragon Society and are suing for peace. A WDS representative has been repeatedly invited to Geneva to meet with Rothschild family leaders to work out a deal. So far, no meeting has been agreed to.
Japanese power brokers under Rockefeller/Bush proxy former Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone have also contacted the WDS and are trying to make a deal via the head of one of Japan’s public security agencies.
The White Dragon Society is no longer in a position to make a deal with these people. The situation is now being handled by various national police and security agencies. That means a lot of people who might have earlier been able to get away with appearing before a South African style truth and reconciliation committee will instead end up in jail. That is unless the mobs get them first.
The exposure of this high level financial crime will fundamentally change how the planet is run. The flow of money will used for the development of the planet instead of the enrichment of oligarchs.
The IMF no longer has money because they no longer have permission to access the pooled funds of the nations of the world. In fact, any treaty rights they had expired in 1994 and were not renewed.
Since the IMF no longer has access to most of the world’s pooled money, they will no longer be able to subject nations to their brutal and destructive “structural adjustment programs.”
Instead, existing global agencies like the IMF, the UN, the World Bank, the BIS etc. will either be abolished or revamped. Some new agencies may also appear.
A Russian contact has told the WDS they now support their proposal for an international economic planning agency. The US agency and pentagon patriots have also given qualified support to this proposal. So have the Japanese and other national authorities.
This yet to be created agency is now expected to get initial funding of $11 trillion to use to finance a campaign to end poverty and stop environmental destruction. It will be meritocratically staffed and open to full media scrutiny.
Victory for humanity is close at hand.
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