View Full Version : An Orweliian state imposing its will? or our chance to say - NO!The new Biometric Law
Limor Wolf
29th September 2011, 11:05
Dear Avalon members,Two years ago while going through the Swine flu 'drama' ,A new law has been quietly introduced to the citizens of Israel,it was written "Big Brother" all over it.I mailed it than to Project Camelot and unfortunetly today it came to fruitation and it is about to be implemented at the start of this November.
I believe that Israel is only the first western country to be piloted with such a thing and according to the Agenda other countries might follow...Therefore,I feel it is important for all of us to observe and pay attention to how this situation unfolds and what kind of reaction it provokes from the Population who is steeped in deep sleep..
http://crisisboom.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/face-recognition.jpg?w=400&h=350
This is what I wrote-
"Many things are happening now that been talked about in the last years. still,standing face to face in real time with the problems can be a somewhat cause for concern.
Only last week I learned that we "saved up" some time on the compulsury vaccinations (see below), but as from this week citizens of israel are standing infront of yet another threat .
It is well known that its going to start in one country and will go over to be enforced in the United states,Europe and all over the world. so it is a threat for us all.
here are the details:( translated from the petition calling the people to stand against the law).
The "law of biometric database" had passed in the Israeli parlament(knesset) for the first time in 29.10.2008 after it already passed the government confirmation in august 2008. According to the law (that was suggested by MP Meir Sheetrit ) any citizen who will refuse giving its fingerprints and to take a computerized photographs of their face will be liable to spend one year in prison.
The formal reason been given to us was that its the best way to defeat criminality and stealing identities
There is already a lot of evidence that shows that the biometric database law is one step closer towords a comprehensive supervision of the states through a microchip that will be implemented in the citizens.
This law is treating us as potenial criminals and give up on our privecy and basic freedom,
Also,the law instructs on establishing a database of all the citizens of israel that will include Biometric data on every and each person.
This database suppose to be used for the purpose of the police and security forces.
No other western democratic country in the world own such a datebase on its citizens. experience all over the world shows that databases that were formed for a specific purpose,have been utilized for other uses as well.
We need to remember with honor the rights that were given to us to exist as liberated free human beings,and that each and every one of us is a wonderful and exceptional creature of nature and this amazing creation we are all part of.
We need to object as a critical mass that will hand cuffs the hands of the law Initiators and prevent the law to be carried out."
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As I said at the beggining of this post,the reason I mention it now is that as from this November (2011) the society will be asked to give its finger prints and Biometric composite portrait,first as a pilot (voluntarily) and after two years it will be obligatory to all.
Transportation cards for public transportation,will also be personalized to the passenger and no more paper tickets.You want a ride...let us know who you are,and where do you intend to go.
I am interested to hear your thoughts and feelings and I would love to hear any good advice of what would YOU do if you had to face it yourselves..
Your Practical as well as spirituall perceptions are more than welcome :)
http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/opponents-israeli-biometric-law-its-step-true-police-state
http://biometricsecuritysoftware.com/biometrics/despite-objections-israel-gets-biometric-database/
http://www.jpost.com/HealthAndSci-Tech/InternetAndTechnology/Article.aspx?id=149360
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132468#.ToR3pOz0eza
Many blessings to you all
~*&^~*&^
Limor
Lord Sidious
29th September 2011, 11:18
I will have to think about this one Limor.
As you said to me before, Israel isn't like other places, what would work elsewhere, might not work there.
Limor Wolf
29th September 2011, 15:04
Thanks for your offer Lord Sidious (by pm) to check if there are any exemptions for religious people,but unfortunetly I dont seem to find the law in English.However,from what I could see when reading the proposal for the law in hebrew and from the law itself,is that they intend to have corrections for any exempts given before.
"According to the proposed settlement, ID card, passport and the biometric database would include fingerprints of both index fingers and image features of the resident ( Eliminating the exemption that can be used for various populations regarding providing and integrating a photo ID card)"
And from the law itself -
"Amendment for population Registry Law 14 - Registry Act Section 25 the words: "To every document will be attached a photograph of the cardholder, except for woman who declared they can not pose for religious reasons" are deleted and replaced with "Each form will include biometric facial image of the certificate owner"
They also made amendments to the law on pasports and to the law of 'freedom of Information',and Orderd Cancellation Exemption from providing photographs to census for Muslim and Druze women
How easy it is to change the law according to their agenda - delete and rewrite!
I am afraid that this time,it is only Non-cooperation with the law that might be the solution,and for that,there need to be enough of the citizens that understand and refuse.
Lord Sidious
29th September 2011, 15:15
Ok, well I will have to think about this further then Limor.
There are ways, but without the background knowledge, it would be dumb to try it.
Mmmmm.
dima
29th September 2011, 17:13
Hey, they already give us biometric passports with all our data inside..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_passport
And as I remember when I applied for a passport, they took my fingerprints of both index fingers electronically, and a photo specially to be processed electronically.
So its already here..
Lord Sidious
29th September 2011, 17:28
Hey, they already give us biometric passports with all our data inside..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_passport
And as I remember when I applied for a passport, they took my fingerprints of both index fingers electronically, and a photo specially to be processed electronically.
So its already here..
Limor is in Israel and you are in Hellas, so not the same place.
Limor Wolf
29th September 2011, 17:47
Hello Dima,I wasn't aware that you HAD to give your Biometric details and profile in Greece! are you required to do this for ID as well? is there any way to avoid from doing so?,are you in risk to go to jail if you do not cooperate?what is the general attitude about it? and my last question,If I may :) How do you personally feel about it? Cheers.
Calz
29th September 2011, 17:52
In several countries (at least in parts) they are taking dna samples for simple random traffic stops.
You know where that goes ...
Limor Wolf
29th September 2011, 17:59
Yes I know Calz,this is why I am raising this,I would rather give up my human costume than live here as a slave.but I will stay as long as I need and will do anything that in my small power to make this plan fail.Btw,in what countries do they take DNA samples in traffic stops? any links?..
teddyc1
4th October 2011, 10:09
Riiight... so, to prevent stolen identities... the state wants to steal it first! Or else!
This has got NWO written all over it.
Lord Sidious
4th October 2011, 15:51
Riiight... so, to prevent stolen identities... the state wants to steal it first! Or else!
This has got NWO written all over it.
Funny thing is, they create the identity in the first place.
13th Warrior
4th October 2011, 16:16
FYI; If you have a facebook account with a single photo of yourself or a tagged photo of you by someone else on facebook then they already have you in the facial recognition software database.
Limor Wolf
10th October 2011, 17:35
Jonathan Klinger,an Attorney and an activist against the Biometric database law says:
"The question that comes to mind is how we, as citizens, could protest against the biometric identification and the biometric database. The state is going to try as hard as it can to persuade us to provide it with our fingerprints; the bureaucrats and clerks in the ministry of interior are obliged, by the national order, to offer every Israeli the option of joining the pilot. Yes, in the same way that your grocery store clerk is obliged to offer you to join their value club, so does the clerk in the ministry of interior have to offer you to join the experiment.
However, one of the criteria by which the pilot will be judged is the number of people that opted not to join the database, as a percentage of the entire population. These people must be us."
I agree.
I am working at the Airport.they tried twice to take my fingerprints,and it would'nt work...security took both my fingers,the index one and the thumb,and both times the scan has failed.As much as I am thankful for my good fortune (..),I will not count on it in the future and I decided not to cooperate whan the law will be compulsory,and to distribute as much information about it to others.
What would YOU do in this situation? to give or not to give...that is the question
Limor
seko
10th October 2011, 19:04
I got my new passport and they took my fingerprints of my index fingers. They have all my details. It's very hard not to be part of the system if you live in a society or do what everybody else is doing( work or business) the only thing that you can do to not get your details in the system is not to be living in a city or a having a job or a business.
What else can you do???
Limor Wolf
10th October 2011, 20:17
Seko,would'nt you say that by non-complying we have a chance to put a stop to the system's darconian rules and NWO agenda? David Icke calls it - 'a quiet non-cooperation'.All the on- going protests around the world right now hardly bring any results,and it takes a lot of energy,also keeping in mind that people are getting killed.
I once read an article by Paul Bondarovski- the former editor of the "Dot Connector" magazine,I thought this is briliiant:
"The world doesn't belong to any group, or groups, of persons. It belongs to individuals, to each and every one of us. More and more people realize it, and this breakthrough of self-consciousness was for me the biggest change that has happened to the world in 2009, and that keeps on happening.
Bilderbergers, Trilateralists, Illuminati, and other "bad guys," don't really do much, if anything. The real "evildoers" are not them. They are making plans and decisions, giving out instructions and orders, but it's not them who turn these plans and decisions into actions — it's us, me and you.
"What if they gave a war, and no one came?" sang Pattie Lockard. Would soldiers keep on killing each other in a battlefield if they realized that "following orders" doesn't dispense them from personal responsibility for what they're doing? How would it feel for millions of bank employees if they realized that working for a theft-based banking system makes every one of them a thief? The same goes for otherwise "peaceful" scientists, engineers and workers of the military-industrial complex, of the Big Pharma, and lots of other industries of mass destruction. They're lulling their conscience by telling themselves that their "little job" is harmless and even virtuous by itself, and that it's not their fault if the "bad guys" use it to commit crimes."
I absolutly recommend to read the reast of it -
http://www.thedotconnector.org/mag/index.php?_a=viewDoc&docId=16
And that leaves us with the question of giving the details,yes or no...But I guess its a personal decision at the end of the day.
seko
10th October 2011, 20:41
Seko,would'nt you say that by non-complying we have a chance to put a stop to the system's darconian rules and NWO agenda? David Icke calls it - 'a quiet non-cooperation'.All the on- going protests around the world right now hardly bring any results,and it takes a lot of energy,also keeping in mind that people are getting killed.
I once read an article by Paul Bondarovski- the former editor of the "Dot Connector" magazine,I thought this is briliiant:
I agree with no compling
"The world doesn't belong to any group, or groups, of persons. It belongs to individuals, to each and every one of us. More and more people realize it, and this breakthrough of self-consciousness was for me the biggest change that has happened to the world in 2009, and that keeps on happening.
Bilderbergers, Trilateralists, Illuminati, and other "bad guys," don't really do much, if anything. The real "evildoers" are not them. They are making plans and decisions, giving out instructions and orders, but it's not them who turn these plans and decisions into actions — it's us, me and you.
"What if they gave a war, and no one came?" sang Pattie Lockard. Would soldiers keep on killing each other in a battlefield if they realized that "following orders" doesn't dispense them from personal responsibility for what they're doing? How would it feel for millions of bank employees if they realized that working for a theft-based banking system makes every one of them a thief? The same goes for otherwise "peaceful" scientists, engineers and workers of the military-industrial complex, of the Big Pharma, and lots of other industries of mass destruction. They're lulling their conscience by telling themselves that their "little job" is harmless and even virtuous by itself, and that it's not their fault if the "bad guys" use it to commit crimes."
I absolutly recommend to read the reast of it -
http://www.thedotconnector.org/mag/index.php?_a=viewDoc&docId=16
And that leaves us with the question of giving the details,yes or no...But I guess its a personal decision at the end of the day.
Hi Limor,
I agree with no complying, that's the best answer. No violence. No protesting on the streets and risk of getting caught in something that you don't need.
For example, I like to travel....I need a passport!!?? That's the only way for me to travel, legally and the safest, but of course I will give into the system, they have all my details. I don't comply with many things, but still need money. People and business have to comply with the government. You need to give all of your details in order for you to get paid.(Social security number, D.O.B., names of family members etc etc...) It is crazy what we need to give in order to live your life.
The best that I can do now, is not to live a materialistic life, I don't have a TV, radio, I work in a small company, in a small town(on the beach) I hardly drink. Learning how to grow my own food, but still have to pay rent and gasoline. I think am getting there, but still need a lot more to learn if I wish not to participate with the government and be as sufficient as I can.
Limor Wolf
10th October 2011, 20:56
I understand what you are saying,however,the biggest mistake,and I mean the BIGGEST mistake that the NWO people and entities had done is to base everything on the people themselvs.so its only a bit of understanding from the society side and pooooff! here their global agenda and slavery plans went down the toilet.I definitely know what you're talking about,otherwise I would not ask for advice here (thank you by the way ),mind you,this is more than simply giving our details.it is also providing our Biometric profile wich is unique only to us,also a request for iris scan not so far in the future,and all those details are going to be kept for 'security' purposes,meaning,right in the hands of the near future global government.
A senior Interpol person ,who I suspect has a first hand connection with the illuminati has revealed to me that "they intend to put chips under our skins" and there is 'nothing that we can do about it'.he does not surf the internet,he knows it from first or second hand.
Isn't it about time that we learn to say no! afterwords,it might be too late.
seko
10th October 2011, 21:16
I understand what you are saying,however,the biggest mistake,and I mean the BIGGEST mistake that the NWO people and entities had done is to base everything on the people themselvs.so its only a bit of understanding from the society side and pooooff! here their global agenda and slavery plans went down the toilet.I definitely know what you're talking about,otherwise I would not ask for advice here (thank you by the way ),mind you,this is more than simply giving our details.it is also providing our Biometric profile wich is unique only to us,also a request for iris scan not so far in the future,and all those details are going to be kept for 'security' purposes,meaning,right in the hands of the near future global government.
A senior Interpol person ,who I suspect has a first hand connection with the illuminati has revealed to me that "they intend to put chips under our skins" and there is 'nothing that we can do about it'.he does not surf the internet,he knows it from first or second hand.
Isn't it about time that we learn to say no! afterwards,it might be too late.
I couldn't agree more with you Limor. That I wouldn't do, no chip under my skin, no way!! We need to find a way of getting what you need to live your life and not getting a chip implanted under your skin. I guess that would be the end of our freedom. I tried telling people what is going on and they agree with me, but they don't want to change the way they live, they live in fear and we can't help them, they have to help themselves.
Limor Wolf
4th November 2011, 23:22
The Israeli military has ordered an unlimited amount of RFID radio chips from PositiveID Corporation.According to an article on Market Watch PositiveID Corporation Company announcing the deal, is a company specialized in producing miniature RFID radio chips the size of a grain of rice for implanting under the skin and the goal of sending and receiving radio information.
to read more:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/positiveid-corporation-receives-verichip-order-for-use-with-israeli-military-2011-10-11
And another very important news worth to open a thread of its own -
Yesterday came the news that the FDA, and the Food and Drug Committee of the U.S, the most powerful and influential body for approval of drugs and food products, has confirmed an electronic chip implantation (VeriChip) in humans.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/#.TrIwCbJVW21
Limor Wolf
7th November 2011, 18:39
Here is a lighter side of how our life would look (in potential,not an option for me) when all our personal details are stored in a database computure.(again,the lighter side,there are much more horifying scenarios):
ORDERING PIZZA (http://www.aclu.org/ordering-pizza)
Snowbird
8th November 2011, 00:47
Here is a lighter side of how our life would look (in potential,not an option for me) when all our personal details are stored in a database computure.(again,the lighter side,there are much more horifying scenarios):
ORDERING PIZZA (http://www.aclu.org/ordering-pizza)
Yes, this is the dark reality. Thank you Limor for posting this information and continuing to bring it to the attention of those who have recently awakened to the dark reality.
We need to post and bump these types of dark subjects because there are people awakening each and every day who are looking for the source of their pain. Here on PA, they will quickly find it.
Limor Wolf
9th November 2011, 00:01
Hello Snowbird,Thank you for your words. this 'dark' reality is part of our daily life and part of OUR creation,and untill we look it deep in the eyes,right into the pupils it will continue to grab us and never let go.
Things are advancing fast. Another news item in the papers today: a new kind of tax is now planned to take place by the Israeli government via the Department of Transportation (Remember - it starts in one place and spread to other countries),first it will be experimented for three years and will request the participation of only a couple of thousands of people.
The experiment, which is expected to last three years,is based,according to the Ministry of Transportation on a simple idea:
Every car participating will be installed with detection system,enabling to accurately track its location at any given moment.this will enable to check the length of the drive and its exact geographic location. according to this data,every car and driver will be obligated to pay the new tax considering the length and characteristics of the travel...
It is also mentioned that the Netherlands and British governments are considering implementing the same tax,wich is,again, determined - according to characteristics such as time, space, driving range and type of vehicles. For example, one who would drive during rush hour in crowded city centers, will be required to pay a high price compared to those who do not drive during rush hour or less dense places.
As explained,Every car will be installed with a detection system to keep track of all travels taken by car.
So far,people complain about the intention to add to the tax burden, none are paying attention or responding against the fact that everyone will soon be followed at any given time outside their home.
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