The Transference of Consciousness in Organ Donation and Falun Gong?

[mahalall]

I was recently in a conversation with a tissue/organ transplant coordinator. I was seeking her view on the transference of consciousness via organs/tissue from donor to recipient. (Evidence has established that 25% of American heart recipients receive the thought structure of donor and evidence is mounting that consciousness could be associated with the mitochondria within cells).
Her reply was,
"Oh yes we are fully aware of this, it's only higher intellect that is transferred"

Reflecting on the implications of this, ones attention is drawn to the plight of Falun Gong practitioners.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong

A question arises, are chinese health authorities fully aware of the consciousness implications of their practice?
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[modwiz]

There are some people who will never run out of money but they are running out of time. It seems that the kind of sociopathic behavior that often accompanies the extremely wealthy has a corrosive effect on the major life sustaining organs. Go figure, there can't possibly be any correlation here. Can there?

Anyway, when you have something, organs, that have a market with unlimited funds there will certainly be a will and a way to see those market needs are met.

I did not watch the video. I read this stuff all over the place. Grim opening frame showing there too.

[meeradas]

One word: Hellish.

[mahalall]

Thanks Meeradas, without the slightest of consent any form of harvesting is hell.

A Fulan Gong prespective
There exists a black kind of substance that we call "karma" and Buddhism calls "sinful karma." These black and white substances exist simultaneously. What kind of relationship do these two substances have? We obtain that de through suffering, enduring setbacks, and doing good deeds; the black substance is accrued by committing bad deeds and doing wrong things or bullying people. Nowadays, some people are not only bent solely on profit, but they even go so far as committing all evils. They will do all kinds of evil things for money, and they will also commit murder, pay someone to kill, practice homosexuality, and abuse drugs.http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/lecture1.html

Rousing the dragon to murder and then sacrificing yourself to change the mind of the dragon wow!

[MiguelQ]

Isis not watched the vid.
But I have a person I know that was cold and so on... And the new heart make that person totally different. The way of being changed.really its like its not the same person...

[jade]

I had a liver transplant 6 years ago.. I became extremely ill very quickly and was told I needed the transplant as I fell into a coma so had no time to consider the morality or karmic implications before it happened. When I woke up 10 days or so after the transplant i found it very difficult to adjust.. I wasn't told anything about my donor at the time as I just wasn't ready to know. What I did know was that the energy felt different and that it was definitely a male organ (I'm female) - I told family my donor was a young guy who had died suddenly in a car accident and it turned out that was true.

I read everything I could find on the subject when I got out of hospital and was amazed at how many websites popped up offering transplants to order, typical fee $500,000 for a liver transplant, with surgical teams traveling to you... sick. I can tell you quite honestly that i would not want to live knowing someone would have had to die. I can't believe that there are people out there that would..

I have reached acceptance now and have nothing but love and gratitude to my donor and his family. I've vowed to make this life count for him

[jade]

Also.. I know that heart transplants are different to all other organ transplantation. I remember reading of a study where they theorized that the heart had it's own consciousness in addition to the brain, as they found that the heart responded a fraction of a second quicker than the brain to external stimuli. Maybe this explains the transference of consciousness to heart transplant recipients.

.. I read elsewhere that the soul doesn't leave the body instantly, but is still connected by the silver chord for a few hours after death. Has anyone else heard this or does anyone have any thoughts on the ethics of transplanting organs?

[mahalall]

Thanks jade, i'm pleased for your health after the transplant.

Thankfully the majority of us can only imagine what it must be like to have an acutely failing organ, to be dependent on daily medical interventions and to be waiting anxiously for any telephone call that may be from an organ transplant team. (and many us can only aspire to the generosity of giving our organs through free will)
One should be very wary of buying an organ as many countries surprisingly don't have a high level of infection screening.

My personal ethical dilemma in relation to organ donation is maintaining the life of a dead person in order to give time for the organ donation team to coordinate themselves.

[Tibouchine]

Researchers have already been succesfully growing new organs from stemcells.
This will be the method to come for substituting failing organs. They use the
stemcells of the person with organ failure, so no rejction reaction will occur.
No lavish medication to avoid rejection reaction will be necessary.

I wonder why this therapy isn't already available to every person who needs
a new organ. Maybe the researchers still need some time to test the method.
Or maybe the transplant and pharmaceutical industry just don't want to lose their
ample source of income. Could be the same as with free energy.

Regarding the transferring from the consciousness of the organ donor
to the receiver via transplantation, there's an excellent book, written
by the Paul Pearsall, PhD.: The Heart's Code. He's a psychologist
specialising in heart transplant patients and tells some amazing
stories about how people changed their thinking and behaviour
or remembered experiences of the donor after the heart transplant.

Pearsall proofs scientifically that the heart is able to think and to
remember and that it is so much more powerful in radiating
electromagnetic waves than the brain. He sees the heart as the seat
of the mind and the altruistic soul and offers a more scientfiic perspective
on what was well known in the global wisdom traditions.

[Lord Sidious]

Researchers have already been succesfully growing new organs from stemcells.
This will be the method to come for substituting failing organs. They use the
stemcells of the person with organ failure, so no rejction reaction will occur.
No lavish medication to avoid rejection reaction will be necessary.

I wonder why this therapy isn't already available to every person who needs
a new organ. Maybe the researchers still need some time to test the method.
Or maybe the transplant and pharmaceutical industry just don't want to lose their
ample source of income. Could be the same as with free energy.

Regarding the transferring from the consciousness of the organ donor
to the receiver via transplantation, there's an excellent book, written
by the Paul Pearsall, PhD.: The Heart's Code. He's a psychologist
specialising in heart transplant patients and tells some amazing
stories about how people changed their thinking and behaviour
or remembered experiences of the donor after the heart transplant.

Pearsall proofs scientifically that the heart is able to think and to
remember and that it is so much more powerful in radiating
electromagnetic waves than the brain. He sees the heart as the seat
of the mind and the altruistic soul and offers a more scientfiic perspective
on what was well known in the global wisdom traditions.

This isn't a procedure that ''they'' want us to have access to, it is for ''them'' so that they live longer.
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