Asking assistance for metaphysical sacred geometry ideas [Archive]

Red Skywalker

30th September 2011, 19:22

It all started after seeing ‘The Quest for Lost Civilizations’ by Graham Hancock on Discovery Channel in 1990 or so. Now I was open for the book: ‘The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Live’ Part 1 by Drunvalo Melchizedek which was released in the year 2000, I think. After a long year waiting, his Part 2 book was released. One thing I learned was that the mentioned sacred geometry in these books should be studied in 3D. Circles should be spheres. I am a technician and I also thought that this could be the structure of the ‘Aether’. I knew aether because I am a licensed Ham radio-amateur since 1983. Without license, illegal amateurs are called aetherpirates. Anyway, my interests shifted twenty years ago from mainstream electronics, physics and astronomy to alternative ideas. I started to find more about Nikola Tesla and his mysteries. Nikola Tesla is the man who gave us our electric power supply. So for me as electronics technician that was also a good start. I studied everything I could find on sacred geometry, lost civilizations, theories of everything, Einstein and Hawking, channeling, out of body experiences (Robert Monroe), all the books of Seth by Jane Roberts and aliens. Then I found the conspiracy theories, yep, via Project Camelot, starting with Ralph Ring’s interview. At that point I understood that I was probably dealing with parts of a hidden and secret science, meanly based on sacred geometry. I began to see more of this ‘science’ and tried to reconstruct it with the aid of 3D modeling software (3D Max and Ulead COOL 3D Studio). This gave me more and more understandings. I tried to write these understandings down, but get stuck on some things I still cannot figure out.

My request to Avalon members is to assist me with some of my troubles. But before that can happen, I have to explain what my combined findings and ideas are so far. This may lead to educational discussions and more understandings for me and many other people. I have answers on many questions, but these answers are not quite understandable without a basic framework. I did post some answers, but these are just lose ends. I have suggested to write a book with Avalon members together (link HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31035-Amazement-As-Speed-Of-Light-Is-Broken-Was-Einstein-Wrong&p=316127#post316127)). I don’t know where it will lead us and if, IF such a book is published, either as a free E-book and/or paid printed version, who gets the credits? Keep that in mind and just let’s go step by step.

I have some restrictions in the story we could make: we will not refer to any religions for the spiritual part of the story, or try to prove mainstream science is wrong; the science math works very accurate. We just tell and explain as logical as it is, without using advanced mathematics. The math can be added later on, or referred to, if at all needed. Our story should be only the framework, understandable for an as big as possible audience. More advanced books can be written by people who are also working in this field.

Are you ready for yet another sacred geometry theory you can participate in?
This thread can give you more understandings of scared geometry based theories like the ones of Nassim Haramein, Dan Winter, Garrett Lisi and others.

I will start with the first step in my next posting, hopefully in a couple of days...
I cannot do it right now. First I have to translate the things I already have. That’s a lot of work and I also have to translate text in some pictures I made.
Please, have a little patience with me because I have very little time. That's also a reason why I didn't write a book already.

I am part of you, and you are part of me.
(Albeit just one neuron of the billions in our brain)

Red Skywalker

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/compilation.jpg

I hope I started this thread at the right place in the forum. If not I am open for suggestions.

noprophet

30th September 2011, 19:31

I like where your coming from with all this. I'm about half way through Drunvalo's first book.

I'll have my eye on this thread.

Red Skywalker

2nd October 2011, 11:43

Let's see what this does:

Most people have heard of the Big Bang. From some sudden explosion out of nothing our universe came into existence. Or ‘something’ created the universe. But what was the cause of the explosion or where came that ‘something’ from? Whatever, it looks like our universe had a beginning. Because nobody knows what the real cause was of that beginning, I concentrated myself to the ‘nothingness’ which must hold the clue for the Beginning. That gave me more possibilities because ‘nothingness’ can be an equilibrium like zero. This equilibrium can exist between opposite forces. Think of a tug of war between two equal parties. At the moment the two parties aren’t equal, something can happen. From nothing a force can appear which has the strength of the difference between the two strong forces. Another way to explain is this: 0 = +1 -1, were zero is nothing or equilibrium, +1 are the forces of our reality and –1 is a new common force that compensates all our reality forces.
Now I had only to construct a force field with these opposing forces which are completely in equilibrium with each other. But it should also have the possibility to get out of equilibrium to give me a Beginning. Where to look for such forces to create an equilibrium force field? I had to try to imagine what was before the Beginning. There couldn’t be any heat or energy source, so it was COLD. Absolutely Cold, minus 273,15 degrees Celsius. And that to infinity. Nothing can move or even exist. If we look at the properties of coldness in our universe, we see that energy travels from warm to cold, coldness slows down or Absorbs all energy. In our universe there is no place where it’s absolutely cold, there is always the so called background microwave radiation which gives a temperature of about 2 degrees Celsius above the absolute zero point. The background microwave radiation is a leftover of the Big Bang according to astronomy. But behind that I imagined an absolutely cold space. An infinite frozen space that absorbs anything, so nothing can exist there. Now I had a force, Absorption Force. This is the –1 common force from the above 0 = +1 –1 and the force ‘before’ a Big Bang or better, Beginning.
I imagined our universe as in a huge deep freezer:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/blackfreezer.jpg

The walls of the deep freezer absorb all possible energy from inside to ‘outside’ which is infinite and so can never be heated up. The endless coldness absorption force on the outside of the deep freezer creates exactly the conditions for the Beginning of our universe on the inside of the deep freezer. This idea is not new, it’s known as the Black Body Concept. A so called Black Body is an object that absorbs everything and radiates it back as electromagnetic energy of which Light is part of. Like the astronomical Black Hole. I only flips this thing inside out, or our universe is within a infinite Black Hole. Afraid of falling into a black hole? Don’t worry, we are already inside and have ever been! That’s why we exist. Now we have a framework of force to play with and a very useful tool will be Sacred geometry. Sacred Geometry consists of shockwaves of the Absorption coldness force and is formed according to ‘The Best Sphere Packing’. That is a mathematical manner to put as many oranges as possible into a box without squeezing them. I have talked about another necessary tool: Infinity.

Infinity will be the next subject of my story.

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/genesis1.jpg

Sacred Geometry

Micro shockwaves in a force field of Absorption force forming droplets of ‘Momenticles’ from which empty space, time, matter and live origins. Can you see this is a cube?

The editable developing Word document can be downloaded HERE (home.kpn.nl/chip/forumdocs/Light.doc)

Red Skywalker

161803398

6th October 2011, 08:30

This guy, Derek, from Wales, knows everything (well, a lot)...if its possible to understand him: http://www.skhane.com/

Red Skywalker

9th October 2011, 17:56

This guy, Derek, from Wales, knows everything (well, a lot)...if its possible to understand him: http://www.skhane.com/

Yes, he connects many numerical things. However, mathematicians can do that too and in a undoubtful logic way. They are also looking for an understanding of the universe and their universal language is math.

Just as you stated: "if its possible to understand him",
I am trying to figure out a way for an explanation so as many people can understand.
That's one thing I started this thread, I need feedback.

Another important thing is: many forum-users throw bits and pieces of information to each other without trying to build the whole picture. Which might be more then sum of the pieces, so they stay stuck. I am attempting to build such a whole picture.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

9th October 2011, 18:28

Still my ideas explaining before I will get stuck. Try to think with me :hat:

2. Infinity

If we try to imagine an infinite empty space, then it will dazzle us. It’s bigger then our universe, it will always be bigger. If we look around us, no matter where we look, space seems to surround us in a spherical manner. Now imagine an infinite big sphere. You can’t.
I have the following solution:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Cirkel_oneindig.jpg

At 1 in the above picture we have a small circle or sphere. At 2 in the above picture the circle or sphere is somewhat bigger. We see the blue line is a little bit more straightened compared to the smaller circle at number 1. If I want to make an infinite big circle or sphere I have to exaggerate the straightening of the blue line by making it completely straight, see number 3 in the above picture. Now we see another phenomena: at number 3 there is no center as compared to number 1 and 2. What does that mean? If we take the microwave background radiation of our universe as the blue line of number 1 and 2, then our universe is the only universe surrounded by an infinite empty space. But see number 3, no center. Where is our universe in infinity? There are two possibilities:

1. Our universe is not infinite, but where is it in infinity and why acts it as just one single and unique object in a infinite empty space?
2. Our universe is not infinite, but there are infinite universes as a Multiversum.

Let’s workout number 3 of the above picture in 3D:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Kubus4_5.jpg

At number 4 I’ve added a mirrored version of number 3. This gives multiple ‘centers’ or universes. But the world is not flat, so I made from a flat square a three-dimensional cube at number 5.
That is why I putted our universe in a cubic deep freezer. I see a cube as a representation of an infinite sphere. What do we have more? We have the Absorption Force due to absolute coldness, see the previous chapter. I haven’t put the direction of the absorption force in the above pictures, but the yellowish lines represent the absorption force. If we look at one of the many ‘centers’, the black dots, then the ever present absorption force works as follows on that dot:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Absorppunt_simpel.jpg

But if I try to put this picture in the cube of number 5, then at the red dots we get opposing directions:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Orde1B.jpg

The red dots acts as absorbing points or objects which can’t exist in the infinite empty space. How to organize the direction of the absorption force to make it fit into the cube? If we are in infinite space, how can we define a direction? We can only do that if we are a point. We are pulled apart in any direction, to the left of us, to the right, up, down, back and front. That’s what we see as the green dots in the above pictures and here again:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Absorp_mensje.jpg

My solution is as follows, forget the point. It gives us directions for the absorption force which don’t logically fit onto a cube. There’s another way. We have to use that way if we want to understand why multiple universes came into existence from infinite nothingness. So first we are going to an understanding of the infinite nothingness before we can create our universe.

Absorption Force in a cubic infinite space will be chapter 3.

The editable developing Word document can be downloaded HERE (home.kpn.nl/chip/forumdocs/Light.doc)
This also contains the next and previous chapters.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

19th October 2011, 19:50

3. Absorption Force

If we put ourselves in place of the point and could look around within the infinite frozen space, thus the nothingness before the Big bang, we can’t see what direction we are looking to. It’s in every direction the same, absolutely dark and empty:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/eye1.jpg

Also you wouldn’t notice any movement you make (in what direction?), but the absorption force does work on you from the six directions. You would explode into any direction because there is the pulling absorption force from one side of infinity and also the pulling absorption force from the other side of infinity:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Nulpunt1.jpg

How to determine what is one side and the other side in infinity? In the above picture I show two opposite directions of the absorption force. I can only show these two directions if we use the black dot as reference point: a pulling force to the left of the point and a pulling force to the right of the point.

What happens if I remove the black dot? We get both directions at the same time:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Nullijn1.jpg

A pulling force from one infinite side and from the other infinite side. In between we find black lines in stead of dots. These lines are lines of equilibrium space between the two opposing pulling forces. Of course we must do this too in all six directions:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/AbsorpCombi.jpg

We have come to a point before the beginning of our universe, but also at a point far into the future where our universe doesn’t exist anymore! In the far, far future all the stars are burned up, even all atoms and particles are vaporized. There is no more radiation, like light. The conditions before the beginning of the universe and at far end of the universe are the same: cold, dark, empty and broken space, see the black lines in the above picture.
Because before the beginning of the universe is the same as after the end of the universe, there is also no TIME. The only thing in between these two extreme points of time seems to be a Multiversum, including our universe with TIME. Our universe started with TIME. Something had to cause TIME to begin our Universe. What is TIME? TIME is Change. The one and only thing that can change in the nothingness is the absorption force. It can and will increase stronger and stronger to infinity until the lines of equilibrium are gone:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Geenkruising.jpg
Absorption Force at infinite frozen space before the beginning and after the end of our universe. It’s the negative energetic counterpart of all that can exist, has existed and will exist.

This increasing means the yellow and blue lines of force will get closer and closer. But what does ‘closer’ or SIZE mean in infinity? Till now we looked at an infinite big space, although with strange coldness properties. Is there a limit for the smallest possible space? Yes, that limit is when there is no equilibrium space at all. How can we visualize that? I found the following clue in the picture I showed earlier:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/InOutgoing2.jpg

Look what happens when we connect the yellow lines, see the white diamond shape. This can be done with the blue lines too.

I explored that diamond shape more:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/OmkeerCombi.jpg
Here we see how the absorption force-directions interchange. We have to work in three dimensions which gives us more possibilities and understanding.

It’s complex, but think on stretching a rubber band till it snaps. Only there will be no snapping of the force field-lines The snapping is what will trigger the sacred geometry field. We will get two force-fields which will interact and vibrate.

If anyone can simplify this, I’ll be glad to see.
Are there questions so far?

I’ll continue this chapter next time. (can take a week again).

The editable developing Word document can be downloaded HERE (home.kpn.nl/chip/forumdocs/Light.doc)
This also contains the next and previous chapters.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

9th November 2011, 20:35

Ernie Nemeth

9th November 2011, 20:54

Hi Red.

I'm sorry I've been away for a while. Your thread is very interesting. I have some trepidation about this topic, however. A series of coincidences stopped my own research into this field. I won't lie, I was devastated. I fell from grace, you could say. I went back to my old life of drugs and partying. But it does not hold the fascination it used to have for me. I find it boring and a sort of slow death. I do not want to waste away, living a life with no meaning. So, here I am again, at it again. Maybe now I'm ready. We'll see, I guess.

I stopped reading Drunvalo's second book at the part where I'm supposed to construct the 3D tetra-hedron. It's still here above my desk on the shelf. It looks like a crumpled piece of paper. But in a silly way, I'm scared to finish it. I've had numerous warnings about this avenue of investigation. But I rarely heed such warnings. So maybe I'll put that tetra-hedron together soon and continue with the book. Like other suppressed information, sacred geometry is dangerous in the wrong hands. There is much power here...

Give me a bit of time to get a grip on where you're coming from, then I'll try to help, if I can.

VaughnB

9th November 2011, 21:18

Red,
I've published a couple pieces from the work of Jiva and Juliet Carter online in this forum relative to SACRED GEOMETRY. Their work is based upon the use of sacred geometry through ceremony to create both a visual and auditory resonance with our DNA.

The end result is that our chakras become aligned, an increase functionality within our endocrine system enabling better health, clarity of thought and the opportunity to perceive our true selves. This connection between the physical, our body, and our soul covenant.

The end result for some has been a catharsis of sorts, manifesting in physical changes from dizziness, and headaches to outright vomiting. The release stems often from old archetypes imbedded deep inside our subconscious of fear, guilt and shame. Others that are more grounded have little if any reaction at all, but are more clear of thought and on purpose with their lives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-9fqLNqj8RU
There a link below to a blog in my salutation and I'll place two others here for your reference.

www.thetemplateorg.com (http://soulintegrationnow.blogspot.com/)
http://soulintegrationnow.blogspot.com/

Ernie Nemeth

10th November 2011, 01:11

VaugnB:
The end result for some has been a catharsis of sorts, manifesting in physical changes from dizziness, and headaches to outright vomiting. The release stems often from old archetypes imbedded deep inside our subconscious of fear, guilt and shame.

Interesting. I've been swirling around for a few months now, off balance and nauseous, with old stuff coming up I'd thought I'd dealt with long ago. The old stuff seems to be merging with the new stuff and becoming the same old stuff. Hard to explain but it's annoying as heck. Like usual, I stuck my nose where it didn't belong (perhaps?) and now there's no way out but throughout. I mean without a thorough investigation into this area.

I think back at my own thoughts about the creation sequence, Red, and I find that by extrapolation, the state before the universe existed must have exhibited the state of the universe the moment of its creation. For instance your "freezer" is not empty as you propose at the outset. Instead, it is more full than after the universe is inserted. This is because of the "forces" you hypothosize exist there to begin with.
The forces, in fact, could not exist without the universe. They are the transitional aspects of reality; the universe is its states. This transition/state interchange or interplay is reality.
I guess what I'm trying to say is: "Where is God?" The source, by definition, is the basis of reality - the cause. No box can confine it and no order of inter-related phenomena can define it.
But in the language of God, in the geometry, there are hidden truths. There is a connection to all things, both seen and unseen. And that connection is the sacred geometry, from which all life, all realities, sprung forth.

Does that help? Now that the state and the transition are separate, there is nothing. But when you merge these two a miracle occurs, the multiverse is born. So, then, what existed before the universe? From our perspective, nothing. From God's, the state and the transition (in my book I called this the monopole/nopole duality). This viewpoint we would call "totality". That means that nothing is everything, in the absence of something.

Out of this incomprehensible morass comes sacred geometry and from within the void, with but a gentle swirl, the slightest flourish, creation unwound like a ball of yarn on the loom. A matrix so simple yet replete with unique designs so intricate and precise it remains beyond comprehension that the parts do no true justice to the whole. This is the skein of reality, the substrate of experience and the seat of true power.

Bo Atkinson

10th November 2011, 12:06

Red, thanks for illustrating your geometric approach to metaphysics. I appreciate seeing your concepts. I think it is lovely to share and discuss inspired geometry. The internet has surely allowed this , if one can avoid that slippery slope of centralized control, (where one entity manages all content and style of presentation on one site). I would much more trust a proposition that key words be used to sort of unify a discussion on multiple, individualized websites. Yet for those wanting a place to more directly inspire one another, i say great, go for it, let us know. My hesitations are as follows:

The term metaphysics has collected countless interpretations and biases as potent terms do. The term "sacred geometry" has not appealed to me due to so many mis-used belief systems-- Which assert various monopolies, by use of the term 'sacred'. Perhaps a term like "inspired geometry" connotes the individuality of the geometer, (but is too general). There are a wealth of links one can follow on search engines, plugging in any term of the moment. I happen to like (the popular) search sites and link sites which primarily present images or vids as search results.

I can't say i'm an inspired fan of the big names in this field, but rather just one of many who would share geometric ideas. VaugnB's posted video is, i think is a fine example of one view of "the whole of reality", presented with inspired geometry and choreography. Further illustrating that there are countless styles, uses, directions, aspects, symbols, tastes, cultures, etc... Thanks V, thanks all.

Red Skywalker

11th November 2011, 19:53

Hi,

Welcome back into sacred geometry, Ernie :o. I was once a hemp smoker, but it gave me headaches after a while. Now I use winamp with the milkdrop visualization plugin in combination with the downbeat/ambient stream of www.divbyzero.de (http://www.divbyzero.de). Less destructive and full with geometry. It took me six years and reading over and over again the two books of Drunvalo. It's a lot of info given by and through him. Now I understand that it was just a small part of the whole information.

About the next post of Wavydome:

The term metaphysics has collected countless interpretations and biases as potent terms do. The term "sacred geometry" has not appealed to me due to so many mis-used belief systems-- Which assert various monopolies, by use of the term 'sacred'. Perhaps a term like "inspired geometry" connotes the individuality of the geometer, (but is too general). There are a wealth of links one can follow on search engines, plugging in any term of the moment. I happen to like (the popular) search sites and link sites which primarily present images or vids as search results.

I completely agree! My suggestion is this: Secret Geometry. If anyone has better ideas, we'll hear or if my suggestion or a better suggestion comes up that resonates then I'll change that in the story. For now I'll use my own suggestion.

So working with Secret Geometry in 3D helps a lot in understanding the various shapes. I too worked in the early days with physical models, but so much work. Working with a cheap 3D modeling program was, after getting the hang of it, so much easier and many times faster.
I use Ulead Cool 3D studio, a 30 day trail version can be found HERE (http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=us-Ulead/UleadProcessLayout&lc=en&ppg=CorelCorp/Trials/Login&pid=1175263345631&cid=1204918456470). The program has it's limitations; you can not make spirals for instance. These I had to create with a very expensive program from Discreet 3D MAX. But strangely enough I had a friend working for Discreet :cool:
it is a very complex program so most things I made with the Ulead program. The following pictures may show more insides of the Secret Geometry:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/cubegeom.jpg

I make these very fast, this picture took me less then two hours. It's one object, but I can turn things on or of, turn the whole thing anyway I like, etc. One simple geometric secret is seen in picture 6 and 7. Picture 8 must be watched with red/blue glasses for a real 3D view. Take a cube, add diagonals on each side and remove the cube. There you go.
This I could not find on Internet, but it's known somewhere, of course. For the rest of the pictures, just watch them. These will be explained later on.

The forces, in fact, could not exist without the universe. They are the transitional aspects of reality; the universe is its states. This transition/state interchange or interplay is reality.

Secret Geometry is like string in equilibrium, but once you plug the string, it'll vibrate. The universe folds inside and out, -1 (geometry) 0 (consiousness, now experiencing) and +1 (reality), or something like that. It's more complicated in the end. I agree with your vision, it has the same ideas but both our ideas must be translated from one to the other. It's all three-dimensional vibrations and these create geometric shapes (I can make an animation of how 3D vibrations create shapes) which only can be seen and experienced by an Observer. Guess who was the first Observer. Not god, please no religion, it was you and me and all other living things. Thus everything. But how can this be possible? It is and I'll try to explain further on in the story, although I am stuck at that last point. This is the reason I am trying to seek the dynamics inside Secret Geometry. I had to start with a logical sounding force, Absorption Force from absolute zero coldness. Experiments around absolute zero temperatures give Bose Einstein condensates and even explosions, so I choose that. However it can be any kind of force that acts as an absorption force. It could be from an empty memory-bank of an alien supercomputer, or the yearning mind of some lonely entity, etc. Whatever fits you best. I'll come to that as I (we) progress with the story.

Till so far, there is so much more to tell!

Red Skywalker

Ernie Nemeth

15th November 2011, 18:50

I look forward to your further explanations.

Red Skywalker

15th November 2011, 18:53

Hello VaughnB,

Finally found the time to watch the video you posted. It is the university version of the geometry knowledge. Many things mentioned in the video, like holographic, fractal, 'being the universe', are in compliance with the story I am trying to tell. But for most people the video is too far away to be really understood without a basic framework. You first have to learn to read before you can understand a book. The knowledge as explained in the video comes in my story at page 1000 or later :p
For myself the video was very interesting to see (again) the possibilities of working with geometries on a higher level of understanding.

Red Skywalker

Zampano

15th November 2011, 19:05

holy god...I have to keep that thread in my mind until I am ready for it

WhiteFeather

15th November 2011, 19:33

Awesome Thread Skywalker, Thanks for this! When you get a chance check out Charles Gilchrist's Youtube Channel here if you haven't already! http://www.youtube.com/user/CGimaging

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOqg5bPZ0HE&feature=channel_video_title

I myself can draw the Metatron's Sphere With 1 Quarter, That's My Favorite Of The Sacred's.

[CENTER]Enclosed are the platonic solids, a key to sacred geometry.

http://www.ba.infn.it/~now/now2008/gif/polyhedra.gif

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ob2lSL8uwkI/TJKkC8AIXmI/AAAAAAAAA-Q/7o448dJpkiA/s1600/platonic_solids1.jpg

From my spiritual awakening back in 2010 i was guided to Sacred Geometry from My Spirit Guides i believe and became fascinated with them.

Check This Out As Well! How to draw The Flower Of Life!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHvXUNeYGs0
Thanks for this thread, i will try and add some input as well.

How to draw the seed of life!
http://www.geometrycode.com/free/seed-of-life-pattern-construction-using-compass/

http://dcsymbols.com/journey/treebook3.htm

Red Skywalker

23rd November 2011, 20:16

Enclosed are the platonic solids, a key to sacred geometry.

Thanks WhiteFeather. I didn't know this video about Metatron's Cube. I found very usefull information in it about the higher platonic solids. I had some trouble with the dodecahedron and icosahedron.
Now I know why :rolleyes:.

I still apologize for the long times between my reactions, but I've not much time. I am studying at this moment also 'free'-energy devices, even experimenting with one: the Starcoil. A dutch link is HERE (http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1586:sterspoel-overunity-systeem-de-joulethief-13-en-de-watergas-motor&catid=45:nulpuntenergie-themagroep&Itemid=72). I am also studying mister Mehran Tavakoli Keshe, see The Keshe Foundation (http://www.keshefoundation.com/nl/). This man is very interesting, but if he had used the geometries, he would have a much better understanding of the forces he's trying to harness. I red his book: "The origin of our universe". Expensive (Euro 40,- for a pocket, but what the hack :o ) If you enter his website, you first have to click on a banner stating that you respect his ideas, or something like that. But imo his ideas are still quite 'primitive'. They are still based on traditional scientific philosophies. If he really demonstrates his discoveries, it can lead to very interesting things. So far I haven't seen anything, except the price of a free-energy device rising from Euro 5000,- for a 3-4 Kw unit to
Euro 20000,- for the same device a couple of months later. :wof:

That raises an eyebrow.

Anyway, these things and the normal work-job, family and other social contacts (real ones, not via Internet) taking my time.

So, talking about time, when did it start? I have the first point in the infinite frozen space. It's not just one point, there are infinite other points which will interact with each other via a shockwave-sphere around it. These points are special: they are reference points for size, direction and movement. Because the absolute coldness, they are fixed in time, size and motion. Anything else, the other points and absorption force, moves and/or vibrates around such a point. That is why it is called a zero-point. I am working on the next part of my story, but I have multiple ways to go on. I have to explore these before I come up with a possible next part.

One way to go on is with vibrations. Why and how do they occur? Without explanation I show just somethings:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/packing1.jpg

This is what we have in the story so far, but there is something called 'The Best Sphere Packing' which looks like this:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/packing2.jpg

Because of the cube like properties of an infinite sphere, it is possible that the vibrations I am looking for consist of the vibrating between these two states.
That's is one part I am exploring. Another is the Fuller Cube, which can be seen in the picture below with an idea of the vibrations:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/BasicVibe.gif

How will this develop further? It could be that the first sphere I am trying to construct in infinite frozen space is filled with noise. Noise of random vibrations between the outward pulling force of the absorption force and it's counterpart the inward pulling force... Don't know yet, but I am working everyday in my mind on it. I have ideas, though this latest noise-idea isn't a new one of me, but maybe I can work it this time out.

I have given some thoughts for the next part, hopefully I will be able to orignize the lose ends :shocked:

Glad you are with me,

till next time

Eagle

23rd November 2011, 20:24

If you are wondering about sacred geometry look up info on the Inca Cross and you will find a whole new world

buckminster fuller

24th November 2011, 01:18

3. Absorption Force

If we put ourselves in place of the point and could look around within the infinite frozen space, thus the nothingness before the Big bang, we can’t see what direction we are looking to. It’s in every direction the same, absolutely dark and empty:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/eye1.jpg

Also you wouldn’t notice any movement you make (in what direction?), but the absorption force does work on you from the six directions. You would explode into any direction because there is the pulling absorption force from one side of infinity and also the pulling absorption force from the other side of infinity:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Nulpunt1.jpg

How to determine what is one side and the other side in infinity? In the above picture I show two opposite directions of the absorption force. I can only show these two directions if we use the black dot as reference point: a pulling force to the left of the point and a pulling force to the right of the point.

What happens if I remove the black dot? We get both directions at the same time:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Nullijn1.jpg

A pulling force from one infinite side and from the other infinite side. In between we find black lines in stead of dots. These lines are lines of equilibrium space between the two opposing pulling forces. Of course we must do this too in all six directions:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/AbsorpCombi.jpg

We have come to a point before the beginning of our universe, but also at a point far into the future where our universe doesn’t exist anymore! In the far, far future all the stars are burned up, even all atoms and particles are vaporized. There is no more radiation, like light. The conditions before the beginning of the universe and at far end of the universe are the same: cold, dark, empty and broken space, see the black lines in the above picture.
Because before the beginning of the universe is the same as after the end of the universe, there is also no TIME. The only thing in between these two extreme points of time seems to be a Multiversum, including our universe with TIME. Our universe started with TIME. Something had to cause TIME to begin our Universe. What is TIME? TIME is Change. The one and only thing that can change in the nothingness is the absorption force. It can and will increase stronger and stronger to infinity until the lines of equilibrium are gone:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/Geenkruising.jpg
Absorption Force at infinite frozen space before the beginning and after the end of our universe. It’s the negative energetic counterpart of all that can exist, has existed and will exist.

This increasing means the yellow and blue lines of force will get closer and closer. But what does ‘closer’ or SIZE mean in infinity? Till now we looked at an infinite big space, although with strange coldness properties. Is there a limit for the smallest possible space? Yes, that limit is when there is no equilibrium space at all. How can we visualize that? I found the following clue in the picture I showed earlier:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/InOutgoing2.jpg

Look what happens when we connect the yellow lines, see the white diamond shape. This can be done with the blue lines too.

I explored that diamond shape more:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/OmkeerCombi.jpg
Here we see how the absorption force-directions interchange. We have to work in three dimensions which gives us more possibilities and understanding.

It’s complex, but think on stretching a rubber band till it snaps. Only there will be no snapping of the force field-lines The snapping is what will trigger the sacred geometry field. We will get two force-fields which will interact and vibrate.

If anyone can simplify this, I’ll be glad to see.
Are there questions so far?

I’ll continue this chapter next time. (can take a week again).

An editable Word document can be downloaded HERE (home.kpn.nl/chip/forumdocs/Light_Aforce_3.doc)
This also contains the previous chapters.

Red Skywalker

movwZd36kyI

An old tv show where Itzhak Bentov's ventures into the world of meditation are explained by him and his wife (he was dead at the time of the show)

It is in 10 parts.. follow up on youtube.. :)

The reason I'm pointing to this material is because your view on absorption forces and their role in "big bang" like events are 100% corroborated by what he explains.
His wife draws something that strangely resembles the above rendering you made.

Saw this a long time ago, glad I found it back. I encourage everyone who haven't seen it to have a go at it, it was one of many triggers for me.

Enjoy !

Red Skywalker

24th November 2011, 17:13

YES, Itzak Bentov, I almost was forgotten him. Of course I have his book: "Stalking the Wild Pendulum" and the dutch version: "Fysica van de Metafysica", isbn: 90-75636-10-5, publisher: Petiet, Tiel (http://www.uitgeverij-petiet.nl/). Update: It's no longer available!

I also found the full length video on you tube:

-uUY0dPE-is

His book is standing next to my books of Drunvalo.
But I was not aware of the video's, so many thanks!

If Itzak had known of the geometries, what would the world be now?...

UPDATE: He was almost to it! See the very last part of the video at 1:32:40

So sad he was on American Airlines Flight 191 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191)

This is what we are doing here: combining all the knowledge parts as much as possible together.

WhiteFeather

24th November 2011, 17:30

Hey Red: Pane Andov - Aka Mr. Astralwalker mentions on his interview The Idea Of Using The Flower Of Life Structure To Protect Mother Earth by actually activating it In Ones self or Chakra System. Interesting, and please keep an open mind here, If You Will! Watch all 8 parts when you get a chance. I believe this is why i was led to Sacred Geometry by my spirit guides in the first phases of awakening 2 years ago, utilizing this method to help shield/protect Mother Earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3q9qSq5We8&feature=related

WhiteFeather

25th November 2011, 15:47

Sacred: Geometry Theory Of Everything! Watch This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5DlXFzj0SE&feature=channel_video_title

Red Skywalker

25th November 2011, 20:27

Great video's WhiteFeather, especial the last one. It's clear that when you dive into sacred geometry, you dive into a world filled with possibilities on math, physics, astronomy, cosmology. It's precise as Itzhak Bentov says, every answer found on your questions, gives you the opportunity to ask new questions.

I have viewed the video of Itzhak Bentov. It was one big feast of recognition, I had to stop after one hour, i didn't want to eat the whole pie at once! :hungry: I have the book, but the video was far more clearer to me. This maybe also due to my studies of secret geometry. I've dusted of my copy of "stalking the wild pendulum" to read it again.

I recommend everybody who is visiting this thread to completely view Itzhak Bentov's video.
I will use many of his views and theories in the story. I can't help it, he was a technical engineer with a nuts and bolds view. I am too a technician, though not an engineer, as Ben as he normally was called, but a little bit lower in evolution: the electronics maintenance guy.
But I have the same nuts and bolds view as Itzhak Bentov, thus Ben, and came to the same conclusions as Ben.
Ben's video is save, I downloaded it, made a dvd of it and send copies to my friends. It's no use to delete it from YouTube anymore. Sorry about copyrights, the info of the video supersedes this. It's for the benefit of all humans, the Earth and beyond. And the video is old, so are the rights still valid? Surely, i guess... but I think Ben would have appreciated that his knowledge is widespread.

Why sacred geometry? Because this is the ultimate vibrational level from which all arises. I started with this level to go down to the lower states, but Ben started at the lower states and worked his way up. Very interesting. I think he and me were both connecting to consciousness level 8 - 9, intuitive knowledge, see his video.
I am at the left side of the bell-curve and Ben was at the right side of the bell-curve, again see his video.

Ok, the 5% thinking is done, now it's time for the 95% hard work to get a new section to the story. I don't need more info on the spiritual side, we aren't there yet. First the nuts and bolts.:nerd:

Talking about the nuts and bolts, I found this video which may gives a better understanding of the nothingness of what I called the infinite frozen space:

http://bcove.me/vaz6s7lq

No embedded player, so just click on the link, wait for the advertising finally ends and the video starts.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

1st December 2011, 18:30

I am now working on the continuation of the story. So far we have a point at infinite frozen space. We have also seen that this point is of one of many points, all of them are beginnings, or 'big bangs' of universes, combined to a multiverse.
The next steps are to explain how one such point becomes a sphere, what the mechanics are inside that sphere and how multiple spheres act and react on each other to become the conscious sacred geometry space/time field.
After I was pointed to Itzhak Bentov, I looked around if there where more researchers who's knowledge I could use for the story. Because the point I created is part of an implosion, I googled "implosion mechanics". Scarry business because the famous 'atom bomb' works on implosion so I was in the eyes of security services searching for the construction of such a damned thing.

But one name took my attention: Walter Russell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell)
On THIS (http://www.feandft.com/18%20Sacred%20Geometry.htm) website I found an intriguing picture:

http://www.feandft.com/sphere_in_a_cube_atom_walter_russell_style.gif (http://www.feandft.com/18%20Sacred%20Geometry.htm)

and on that website is more.

I needed more :lock1: and found a legal download site for his book "The Secret of Light".
You can (legal) download it from HERE (http://www.archive.org/details/WalterRussellTheSecretOfLight).

This book dates back as far as 1947! READ it for study purposes.
It's no use to delete it, I have downloaded it and secured it.

I have read big parts now, but his religious viewpoint does not resonate with me.
However the more mechanical part of the story, which starts at page 120 in the pdf, has still my great interest because of the similarities with my mechanical story.

Why didn't Itzhak had no knowledge of this?? I think these two forgotten researchers DID know of each others works, the rest will be speculation, but we can fill in the cabs for our selfs. :suspicious:

I didn't want to let you wait too long, so let's get further educated. I think we have now an idea in what direction we are heading and this is just the nuts and bolts. What if we enter the spiritual side and combine the nuts and bolts with it?

The editable developing Word document of my/our story can be downloaded HERE (home.kpn.nl/chip/forumdocs/Light.doc)

Red Skywalker, sometimes I wonder where I am working on, how deep is this rabbithole??

Red Skywalker

15th January 2012, 12:23

Hello, it took a while due to the December month.

During searching more pieces of the puzzle I found the movie "Thrive 2011" released on 11-11-11. A 'Zeitgeist'-like documentary movie. At the beginning of the movie is an animation which holds more information on sacred geometry (Nassim Haramein) and solutions for continuing my simplified version.
The rest of the movie is very interesting and debatable, but not for this topic.

* UPDATE * I have removed further info about this movie.
For more info, see Avalon topic: "THRIVE, The Full Movie" HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34727-THRIVE-...The-Full-Movie.&p=355654&highlight=thrive#post355654).

Back to my topic:
The following picture I made on 15 march 2011 can be seen in the beginning of the movie, the 8 torus:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/8torus.jpg

It's one frame from an animation:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/8torus.gif

I will explain why this happens and what the consequences will be.

I'll continue with my way of telling the story to get the whole picture clear for as many people. Working as much time I have on the story, but I have still very little time. Wish I could do more...

If there are questions, please let me know.

Red Skywalker

percival tyro

15th January 2012, 16:37

Hi RSW, Chaos can only engender chaos so I presume that there must have been an intelligence with an aspiration, who created principles as first laws and potentialities. Could’ve held them together at a 0 or starting point. All the plans for creation drawn up inside. I venture the plans would have been for the chicken and the starting point the egg. Eureka!!! LOL. When I was in my teens I read a book called the meaning and philosophy of numbers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7AyNFpJ6DA

Red Skywalker

15th January 2012, 17:35

Hi RSW, Chaos can only engender chaos

Interesting that's not true. You may study the so called mathematical Chaos-Theory.
In chaos there can be spontaneous areas of order without the need for some intelligent 'mind' source. Such a source still has to have an origin.

I see many people still want something like a 'god' or 'creator'. Please, the godlike energy is the empty space! It's organized, sacred geometry, empty space is the equilibrium between two forces. That's why it's a triple unity: -1 (my frozen space) +1 (our reality) = 0 (empty space with potential energy, released when out of balance to +1 or -1)

Empty space is special and gives the freedom of manifestation with time and thus movement. Any intelligence within empty space comes from the structure of the empty space itself and thus from 'god'. The structure of empty space is the sacred geometry, that's why it's called sacred.
All things that are manifested in empty space are living and have some form of intelligence. That includes even a rock, an atom, the sun, Earth itself. All together it forms the intelligence of that 'god' which equals the structured empty space.

'god' is great, yeah, just look how much empty space we can see. But it's empty so empty space must fill itself with beings that are the intelligence of the empty space, thus 'god'. It does so by implosion, causing the point. The point from which the structure of empty space turns itself 'inside out.'

Look at the end of the Izthak Benthof video earlier posted. IT IS YOU WHO IS THE 'GOD'.
YOU are the creator of yourself and your universe from the very beginning. YOU have made a long journey from the first light particle to the being you are now. And lots more journeys are ahead, while ever developing yourself, not only as a human, but up to a very great light being.

But you are not empty space thus not 'god', but we all are part of empty space, thus part of 'god' :rolleyes:

You are me and I am you, say the maya's.

I can't discuss this issue further. Please open your mind, but religion is very hard to discuss with those who want to hang on.

Now you may understand why I restrict myself to a nuts and bolds explanation.

Red Skywalker.

percival tyro

15th January 2012, 19:32

I don't recall using the word God or religion. Anyway let's hope the Hadron Collider doesn't spoil our party, Clean slates can prove expensive! I'm upgrading my spirograph just in case.

Red Skywalker

4th February 2012, 19:21

I don't recall using the word God or religion.

No?

I presume that there must have been an intelligence with an aspiration, who created principles as first laws and potentialities

Indeed, you are not using the word god or religion, however you mentioned something that can be interpreted as very similar to these words.

That's why I gave the previous answer :p

I'm upgrading my spirograph just in case.

That's a start, but try to do it in (virtual) 3D: circles should be spheres and squares should be cubes.
It'll help you more to better understandings of the structure of empty space and the dynamics within that structure which are the cause of Time and consciousness.

Red Skywalker

CD7

4th February 2012, 19:45

percival tyro

5th February 2012, 15:10

Hi Red Skywalker, thank you for reinterpretation of my post. How are you redefining "sacred"at the present time.

Red Skywalker

10th February 2012, 18:01

Problem with the host of my pictures is solved.

The link to the latest version of the edible worddocument of the story is here:

Download latest version 'Light.doc'. (http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumdocs/light.doc)

If that doesn't work for some reason, you may try this link:

HERE (https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=69bfa56e064a02b2&resid=69BFA56E064A02B2!156&parid=69BFA56E064A02B2!131)

This alternative link can be broken when a newer version of the document is posted.
For the moment it's working.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

12th February 2012, 09:05

Hummm i have not studied sacred geometry in this way...looking at it outside, but have had deep experiences in meditation where i see and FEEL the spin of geometry within. I actually visualize a being with two batons. The batons are spinning as well as the "body" of the individual. Seeing and feeling this is powerful and can make me shake inside in a way that im "feeling" what im visualizing. Like im spinning in geometric patterns. Sacred geometry is very much apart of us. So not sure if this has any bearing on your ideas...thought id throw it out there :)

Although I made a mechanical explanation so far, it will lead to a science whereby hard physics and spirituality are both intertwined. That's why these ideas are making it so fascinating for me!
I also meditate, though just about 3 times a week, but very deep to explore and ask questions if I enter this:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/meditation1.jpg

For me this is a very real experience which connects me to real physical forces. I can ask questions or just explore. But I also have to be careful because often I get so much information. Later on I process this information by making pictures of the geometrics and exploring the dynamics of it.
Mostly I can do just a small part, can't handle all at once :juggle:

That's in very short the way I am working. It's a combination of exploring my inside and down to Earth hard thinking. It's not like channeling, there are no voices or entities, I just roam around.

And that seems to be exactly what you also describes!

Answers on my questions are given as animations, like the ones in the previous posts. I have to find out myself what the meanings of them are by recreating them.

In the early years (some twenty years ago), I had no idea what I saw. But after discovering the sacred geometry and more understanding of scientific physics and cosmology, it became clear to me what I am dealing with. Now I try to order it all to a logical explanation story.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

12th February 2012, 09:19

Hi Red Skywalker, thank you for reinterpretation of my post. How are you redefining "sacred"at the present time.

Sacred has no meaning to me. For me 'sacred' is just a name used by those who are still entangled in the old religious ideas. Redefining it is of no use. In a previous post of this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31614-Asking-assistance-for-metaphysical-sacred-geometry-ideas&p=353559&viewfull=1#post353559) I suggested to use 'Secret Geometry'. Secret because of the hidden nature of this geometry and the secret abuse (conspiracies, etc.) of the science behind it.

Red Skywalker

RunningDeer

14th February 2012, 23:07

As you may have noticed, next part isn't there yet. I tried to continue, but this is now a point were I got stuck. So, suggestions are welcome. In the mean time, I'm still puzzling on the next stage of this story. :help: The thread is not dead! Although, it seems not a subject many people have interest in. Or just do not have ideas. But keep thinking for yourself, be an Einstein or Tesla. Don't be lazy and don't just except other 'guru's'. Make your own real truth and wonder about what you created yourself! :eyebrows:

Red Skywalker your ability to think in visual dimensions, and spacial relationships are light-years beyond me. I'm waiting for a great big download to happen. Until then, I've "marked the thread". I have a great appreciation for all that you are sharing. No doubt you are assisting those with the thinking skill set that you so readily possess.
Sincerely,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Red Skywalker

20th April 2012, 17:37

Since I started this thread, my time to work on it is very much reduced. Other work that has nothing to do with my subject takes all my time. Why? Maybe some viewer can give me a clue.
Anyway, I found this small video which I like to share:

jPkX0iOVX18

All I have told so far is just a snowflake on a huge iceberg, it's only the earliest beginning. But it seems the rest has still to be waiting to be released. If the time is there, I think I'll get the opportunity to tell more. It's just very frustrating and I wish I could give you a major download. Someday it will be there.

Red Skywalker

donk

20th April 2012, 17:52

Red Skywalker

21st April 2012, 19:41

I like Nassim Haramein's ideas and stories...it is important to not get caught in the traps of mainstream science/math where causality is ignored. I really agree with his ideas that anything the current models can't explain get plugged up with some abstract "constant" or label (dark matter, strong force, big bang, gravity & matter...for that matter :p), so this leaves out a huuuuge gap in the models.

I am not a fan of Nassim. He presents ideas as if he himself has found them. Drunvalo had same ideas, but at least ten years earlier. Also Nassim doesn't seem to understand the bottom of why there is a geometrical forcefield. But this is not about Nassim, he does his job and although he charges a lot of money for his presentations ( he once was in my town, I could meet him for 400,- Euro ... ), he helps and stimulates people to think in a more right direction.

Talking about models, the dark matter model has to be reconsidered, see HERE (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hqd2eW2cX6-HPG313C4hFhPqbUxA?docId=CNG.cc51b8b1149b3724b3f352a005a19262.371).
Maybe I could give them a hint, but

1. 'they' won't listen and
2. I am not qualified and able to give a complete scientific and mathematical explanation so number 1. applies again.

Everybody knows there is still a lot to explore, but the way of thinking has to be changed, or call it consciousness. That is just what I try to do here.

I concentrated myself to the ‘nothingness’ which must hold the clue for the Beginning. That gave me more possibilities because ‘nothingness’ can be an equilibrium like zero. This equilibrium can exist between opposite forces.

My thoughts were that this is a trap. There is no zero, and the problem with "normal" physics is that it is all thought experiments done in a vacuum (nothingness), which has never been observed in reality (to my knowledge anyway). So mainstream physics can only show patterns/probabilities/expected behaviors of matter or whatever, so is very useful on our 3d level or scale or perspecitive of the infinite or whatever you want to call it, but I think in order to contribute a truly "new" idea on this topic it is important not to fall in these in traps--aka keep it "reality" based as much as possible and try to shy away from "models" or "hypotheticals". If it is real and/or relevant, shouldn't we be able to describe it practically, with provable, observable data?

About 'zero', zero exists (my opinion, Donk may not accept that, he/she may explain why zero doesn't exist). Zero does not occupy space. it's an infinite small turning and equilibrium point. I know, 'zero' cannot be on itself, thus I had to create it with opposing forces which resulted in an infinite number of 'zeropoints'. Mainstream physics indeed does not work with this idea and does not see that the vacuum is a geometrical combination of forces from which the zero-points are created.

Many observable data for which at this moment no explanation can be given (see for example the above dark matter link), can just be the observable proof for a new theory. Another example can be found HERE (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html).
Such things can be understood and explained with the help of the understanding of what sacred geometry is.

To keep it short, here some of my ideas where I am working to:

We live in a infinite, analogue and natural supercomputer, the sacred geometry-field. You are the processor, a zero-point as an unique observation reference-point in time and space, but not just the only one. You are connected with other processors, like braincells.
It's a neural network supercomputer we are (in).

Everything we observe is made of vibrational electrical and magnetic forces. Though these forces may have other properties in other universes or programs in the infinite supercomputer. They only appear in our universe as electrical (the straight lines in the sacred geometry) and magnetic (the rounded spirals in the sacred geometry).

Time in the sacred geometry field does not exist, its all a three dimensional standing or scalar wave.

Time is only experienced when moving through that field as an observer. If you take a film, it consists of separate still pictures; no time. If you move along the film you see the motion and thus the time. But you have to be in sync, move with the right shutter-speed. I have more about this (later, later..), it makes also clear what dimensions are.

The observer is a program of the supercomputer itself. It moves from big to small (matter, E=MC2 an acceleration formula) and from small to big (mind, evolution).

Have more, but are still loose ends.

May this brief info helped you in getting new questions and opinions.

Red Skywalker

donk

21st April 2012, 21:35

I am not a fan of Nassim. He presents ideas as if he himself has found them. Drunvalo had same ideas, but at least ten years earlier.

I hear ya...thanks for input and ill check him out.

As to zero--my thoughts on that were inspired by your description of it, it seems it only exists relative to "things that do exist" by the what you said (then reinforced), I'll have to think on this, let you know if I figure out way to articulate it.

Gracias!

Red Skywalker

22nd April 2012, 13:04

I am not a fan of Nassim. He presents ideas as if he himself has found them. Drunvalo had same ideas, but at least ten years earlier.

I hear ya...thanks for input and ill check him out.

For me personally, I like Garrett Lisi (http://garrettlisi.com/) more. You can check him out too, to see another viewpoint. :p

it seems it only exists relative to "things that do exist" by the what you said (then reinforced),

That's exactly what I meant. I have added some lines to my story to explain it more clearer:

I concentrated myself to the ‘nothingness’ which must hold the clue for the Beginning. That gave me more possibilities because ‘nothingness’ can be an equilibrium like zero. This equilibrium can exist between opposite forces. Think of a tug of war between two equal parties. At the moment the two parties aren’t equal, something can happen. From nothing a force can appear which has the strength of the difference between the two strong forces. Another way to explain is this: 0 = +1 -1, were zero is nothing or equilibrium, +1 are the forces of our reality and –1 is a new common force that compensates all our reality forces.
Now I had only to construct a force field with these opposing forces which are completely in equilibrium with each other. But it should also have the possibility to get out of equilibrium to give me a Beginning. Where to look for such forces to create an equilibrium force field? I had to try to imagine what was before the Beginning. There couldn’t be any heat or energy source, so it was COLD. Absolutely Cold, minus 273,15 degrees Celsius. And that to infinity. Nothing can move or even exist. If we look at the properties of coldness in our universe, we see that energy travels from warm to cold, coldness slows down or Absorbs all energy. In our universe there is no place where it’s absolutely cold, there is always the so called background microwave radiation which gives a temperature of about 2 degrees Celsius above the absolute zero point. The background microwave radiation is a leftover of the Big Bang according to astronomy. But behind that I imagined an absolutely cold space. An infinite frozen space that absorbs anything, so nothing can exist there. Now I had a force, Absorption Force. This is the –1 common force from the above 0 = +1 –1 and the force ‘before’ a Big Bang or better, Beginning.

The 0 = +1 -1 can be visualized as a vibration. Going UP +1, Stop 0, Going DOWN -1. But in the infinite geometry field, there is only 'growing bigger' and 'growing smaller'. This 'growing' can only be relative to an infinite small point or infinite big 'space'. The infinite small point is the 'zero', however it can also be the infinite big empty space. The picture shows two circles, a shrinking black circle and a growing white circle. At position 3 they meet, zero. This, by the way, is equal to the Buckmister Fuller cube of equlibrium in my story. Maybe the symbol '0' has something to do with this ;)

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/CirkelsInOut.jpg

The green circle at position 3 is like a shock wave, a scalar wave. Here are more examples:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/ruistorus.jpg

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/ADIspheressimpel.jpg

3D vibration, an explosion combined with implosion, forever and always has been vibrating

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/forumpics/demos/Metatron.jpg

Here are more stages visible, it's called 'Metatron'.

We tend to think our 3D reality has three dimensions, but you can define a forth dimension. Nope, not Time, but SIZE.

This post is somekind of preview of the next chapter in my story. I have to work it further out, when I have the time for it.

Red Skywalker

donk

4th May 2012, 21:25

I will check out Lisi, and think more on what you are saying. I appreciate it, look forward to that next chapter.

Rantaak

5th May 2012, 15:57

I saw Metatron's cube in a vision once, having no idea what it was. It formed like a crystalline blue snowflake in the blackness of my vision. Then I had a mild seizure and felt my amygdala modulate itself, probably reversing an imbalance caused by PTSD. Then about a week later, I was reading one of Drunvalo's books and there it was, staring at me on the page! I nearly fell out of the bed I was laying in.

Keep going, Red. :hippie:

Red Skywalker

12th October 2012, 20:16

I have been quit for a long time because I am preparing a presentation of these ideas. It's in a non-english language, but I'll later on translate it. When ready it will be available for download and maybe a youtube video will be made.
The presentation will be on 22-11-2012.
So after that, I can work it out for a bigger audience.
However, the timing will be somewere in the next year, if nothing happens at 21-12-2012 :rolleyes:
Be patient and keep educating yourselfs.
All is allready somewere on the net.

Red Skywalker

Red Skywalker

17th March 2013, 10:56

Great, we survived 2012. My 2013 presentation is available in Dutch language. An English version will be available as soon as I translated it. However time goes by with increasing understanding. So here is the latest version 2015 as made public.
(If you cannot read this language, you just may like the pictures)

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/download/Werkbestand-2014.pdf

Read this before the older presentation of 2013. But the 2013 gives an overview what is coming ahead in this latest version.

Back in 2013:

http://home.kpn.nl/chip/download/LezingHans.pdf

Downloadlinks:

Latest version
(http://home.kpn.nl/chip/download/Werkbestand-2014.pdf)
Presentation 2013
(http://home.kpn.nl/chip/download/Lezinghans.pdf)

Both can be found on my (still Dutch) webpage: http://home.kpn.nl/chip

If you want to know my real name and emailadres, you'll find it in the pdf.

An English translation would be great. I tried myself, but o boy what a work!
If there are folks who want to help, I would appriciate that very much.