The Lawful Bank

[ktlight]

Welcome to the Lawful Bank web site.

The lawful Bank provides a gateway to ‘The Alternative Monetary System’ (TAMS) - a new and independent monetary and banking system owned and controlled by its users/members. The objective of TAMS is to take back control of the money supply for the benefit of the people of the nations that choose to use it... and by so doing, reassert the sovereign right of the people to self-governance - for a nation cannot truly govern itself unless it is in full control of the means by which its money is created.

That most nations around the world do not control their own money supply is not well known – but it should be - and it is our intention therefore to educate as many people as possible about this issue and explain its significance in terms of the impact it has on our freedoms.

If we all did this then bye bye rothchilds banking. We can create our own police force and our own courts, or is this just a dream?

http://www.lawfulbank.com/

[king anthony]

...If we all did this then bye bye rothchilds banking. We can create our own police force and our own courts, or is this just a dream?

I say, does not water fill the spot in the lake where one scoops some out for thirst!? It has been, with success that human beings have lived (and can do again) without such things as police, government and currency (what is now is the Roman Empire), while still becoming something great as a species; accomplishing much good. Why take away that which is not needed (toxic, unnatural and destructive) to replace it with another that is similar/same - to chance what is now to be again!?

[risveglio]

I signed up to learn more. Sounds better than getting walls, dogs, and guns.

I am not sure I understand the dislike for currency. Currency, in its PURE form, is a way to make bartering easier. If the shoe maker wants cheese but the farmer doesn't need shoes but he could use a new suit, currency (silver, gold, paper, tulips), were just created so the shoe maker did not need to hunt down the tailor.

[king anthony]

...Currency, in its PURE form, is a way to make bartering easier...

I say, the words above are still within what has been imposed; it imposes fear - the fear of someone doing more or less then another, the fear of having and not having, the fear of ownership of "deed" and that which is in hand. The barter system and currency come from the same root and one has made the other possible.

People need to think in terms of "contribution and benefit" to and of the collective. What this means is each contributes to the collective and not worry who does more or less - for even if one contributes once, it may be that of great value. The accomplishments of the collective are for all and all have equal access to these things - without condition. This alone is the motivator to strive for better and more (more not based on greed).

Motivation from competition is a less effective way for "progress", as it makes the mind, body and "soul" ill - as it drains away the "life force" and (positive) emotions of each. Contribution and benefit allows each to be themselves and contribute what they can, when they can and how they can. Example, the true basis of Natural Law is "all things have the right to life"; this includes aiding others and benefiting from others (the collective).

Have not people climbed mountains simply for personal achievement and not fame or wealth!? Has not the human species, like any other, survived "time" not for glory or profit!? Have not "the few" imposed the things that are now for control with no regard for the "big picture" of "life"!? One may say these words not be true - I say, why are people not able to eat or have a place to sleep, right now as you read these words, while they sit between a food market and house!?

I say, the words "currency in its pure form" has no value, for these words are the words of one who is still within what is.

[risveglio]

I just disagree. Too many people take advantage of the collective. Better that each individual shine bright, on his or her own and use there success, however it is measured to teach others how to shine. The idea of a "collective" is dangerous, at least while we are in a 3D world.

[king anthony]

I just disagree...The idea of a "collective" is dangerous, at least while we are in a 3D world.

I say, the limits of one should not be the standard of many. The collective is a "group or groups", it is the "some or many" (people/human beings), it is the "population" - where is the danger when this is human nature to be united. The collective is dangerous, as it has been, when such concepts as currency is introduced.

To shine alone is to remain alone, without others and human beings are flesh and blood in the one reality that is; and in this one reality human beings have need of each other. I say, it is human arrogance/ego that has need to be more - then what they are. However, giving benefit to the 3D belief system to make a point - how can those who have such feel good thoughts make plan to "move on" when they cannot make it right here and now - unless it is to escape their own limits of here and now.

[Spirithorse]

Welcome to the Lawful Bank web site.

The lawful Bank provides a gateway to ‘The Alternative Monetary System’ (TAMS) - a new and independent monetary and banking system owned and controlled by its users/members. The objective of TAMS is to take back control of the money supply for the benefit of the people of the nations that choose to use it... and by so doing, reassert the sovereign right of the people to self-governance - for a nation cannot truly govern itself unless it is in full control of the means by which its money is created.

That most nations around the world do not control their own money supply is not well known – but it should be - and it is our intention therefore to educate as many people as possible about this issue and explain its significance in terms of the impact it has on our freedoms.

If we all did this then bye bye rothchilds banking. We can create our own police force and our own courts, or is this just a dream?

http://www.lawfulbank.com/
Hi ktligth,

Well, you were quicker than me - I just finished watching the video on David Icke's Headline page and I found it very intriguing, so intriguing that I thought of starting a thread with it.
Now many of us know the Lawful rebellion, but few (I suppose) know the Lawful bank, (I didn't).
It's so encouraging to see that there are real alternatives out there and concepts that benefit the people, not the elite few.

Thanks for posting.

[king anthony]

...real alternatives out there and concepts...

I say, it only appears the said things are.

[starsha]

I signed up to learn more. Sounds better than getting walls, dogs, and guns.

I am not sure I understand the dislike for currency. Currency, in its PURE form, is a way to make bartering easier. If the shoe maker wants cheese but the farmer doesn't need shoes but he could use a new suit, currency (silver, gold, paper, tulips), were just created so the shoe maker did not need to hunt down the tailor.


I agree with what you are saying about the pure form of currency. Currency could be simply a way of measuring, like a ruler or a measuring cup, and without the corruption it is simply that. If currency was simply a way to measure, with the right motives it could be used for something collectively positive.

But the reality is there is corruption now. There is no pure form of currency, right now, because it is being used with the motive of control and manipulation behind it.

For something to be pure there needs to be pure motives behind it. On planet earth, right now, the motive behind currency is not pure. That’s the reality. So now what are we going to do about it?


king anthony said ... To shine alone is to remain alone, without others and human beings are flesh and blood in the one reality that is; and in this one reality human beings have need of each other. I say, it is human arrogance/ego that has need to be more - then what they are. However, giving benefit to the 3D belief system to make a point - how can those who have such feel good thoughts make plan to "move on" when they cannot make it right here and now - unless it is to escape their own limits of here and now.

I couldn’t agree more about this. Seeking for ‘better’ and ‘more’ can so often be used as a way to deny what is happening right in front of you. I am not saying that it is a bad thing to have hope for a better future, but there is a fine line between hope for a better future and denial of what IS right NOW. I guess each one of us needs to make that call for them self. For me it comes down to facing up to what is here (even if I don’t like it) and walking through it consciously. You can’t make changes for yourself (or the collective) if you are not aware of what is going on around you. IMO.

[starsha]

People need to think in terms of "contribution and benefit" to and of the collective. What this means is each contributes to the collective and not worry who does more or less - for even if one contributes once, it may be that of great value. The accomplishments of the collective are for all and all have equal access to these things - without condition. This alone is the motivator to strive for better and more (more not based on greed).



well said ... and i think this is the answer to the question "what are we going to do about it?" :)

[norman]

They'll send NATO bombers in to flatten it, and give the 'rebels' a packet of sweets while they load up the cash.

[Snowbird]

I say, this is a step in the right direction.

I like this Hayes guy! He's got knowledge to back up his claims and guts to present them. :thumb:

[king anthony]

I say, this is a step in the right direction...

No it is not - and my words are not opinion, faith, belief, theory and such.

[risveglio]

I just disagree...The idea of a "collective" is dangerous, at least while we are in a 3D world.

I say, the limits of one should not be the standard of many. The collective is a "group or groups", it is the "some or many" (people/human beings), it is the "population" - where is the danger when this is human nature to be united. The collective is dangerous, as it has been, when such concepts as currency is introduced.

To shine alone is to remain alone, without others and human beings are flesh and blood in the one reality that is; and in this one reality human beings have need of each other. I say, it is human arrogance/ego that has need to be more - then what they are. However, giving benefit to the 3D belief system to make a point - how can those who have such feel good thoughts make plan to "move on" when they cannot make it right here and now - unless it is to escape their own limits of here and now.

We are humans still, this is still earth, there are always going to be people out to do harm, to take advantage to one up another with our without currency. Without currency they will do it with land, water, or food. I am either misunderstanding you or strongly disagree. I distrust the collective.

[king anthony]

I am either misunderstanding you or strongly disagree.

Both are correct as well as other "elements" not mentioned.

[risveglio]

I am either misunderstanding you or strongly disagree.

Both are correct as well as other "elements" not mentioned.

Since you seem so certain, can you please share with me what those elements are?

[Snowbird]

King Anthony-People need to think in terms of "contribution and benefit" to and of the collective. What this means is each contributes to the collective and not worry who does more or less - for even if one contributes once, it may be that of great value. The accomplishments of the collective are for all and all have equal access to these things - without condition. This alone is the motivator to strive for better and more (more not based on greed).

I agree with your statement above, but I also know that the vast majority is not at all ready for this. What you have stated, will one day become reality, but not for quite a while.

We on PA may very well be able to live with this type of contributionism, but those who are locked into the current system will not support this or understand the reason for this, for some time into the future.

Until that time, my statement stands. It's a step in the right direction and not the end-all, be-all. :wave:

[king anthony]

Since you seem so certain, can you please share with me what those elements are?

What you are asking for is for me to highlight your limitations, thus putting me in a negative spotlight - I will not impose this unnecessary burden, by allowing the limits of one to be my problem.


To All - a general statement

In the spirit of aiding I will highlight by way of examples - in brief, what many people fail to include or consider with most any topic, including this one.

In general; historical facts on (ancient) civilizations and currency - applying sociology and psychology as it relates to topic and human nature - excluding bias from thought and in-depth understanding overall - awareness of how things have been, are now and will be - and in closing, applying experience with the monetary system, such as how it works, debt recovery programs using litigation and so on.

It is clear, that the some/many (people) do not incorporate the said examples, stated in brief. I say, the masses must learn how to apply critical thinking, (basic) logic, (reading) compression, research skills, true empowerment with facts/truths (and not mythology, beliefs systems and such), not be dependent on others or codependent with those who now "rule" (while working together for progress, peace and happiness) - if the human species truly wishes for a better tomorrow.

[king anthony]

...What you have stated, will one day become reality, but not for quite a while. ...will not support this or understand the reason for this, for some time into the future.

I say, your overall statement implies "time" is needed, this imposes that "time" is in abundance. It is true that human beings need change to be introduced slightly over a period of "time", lest the change be met with resistance. However, the leap in change can be done in "a moment" with the upcoming generations (for they have not been "conditioned" as deep). These two methods have been used by "the few" (the ruling class/elite) with success.

When will the next generation have the need to learn a better way and rely on a better why if it is never introduced as it should be. It is far too easy to say, "someday", for it diverts the issues of today thus personal accountability and self-reliance is avoided.

[cloud9]

...Currency, in its PURE form, is a way to make bartering easier...

I say, the words above are still within what has been imposed; it imposes fear - the fear of someone doing more or less then another, the fear of having and not having, the fear of ownership of "deed" and that which is in hand. The barter system and currency come from the same root and one has made the other possible.

People need to think in terms of "contribution and benefit" to and of the collective. What this means is each contributes to the collective and not worry who does more or less - for even if one contributes once, it may be that of great value. The accomplishments of the collective are for all and all have equal access to these things - without condition. This alone is the motivator to strive for better and more (more not based on greed).

Motivation from competition is a less effective way for "progress", as it makes the mind, body and "soul" ill - as it drains away the "life force" and (positive) emotions of each. Contribution and benefit allows each to be themselves and contribute what they can, when they can and how they can. Example, the true basis of Natural Law is "all things have the right to life"; this includes aiding others and benefiting from others (the collective).

Have not people climbed mountains simply for personal achievement and not fame or wealth!? Has not the human species, like any other, survived "time" not for glory or profit!? Have not "the few" imposed the things that are now for control with no regard for the "big picture" of "life"!? One may say these words not be true - I say, why are people not able to eat or have a place to sleep, right now as you read these words, while they sit between a food market and house!?

I say, the words "currency in its pure form" has no value, for these words are the words of one who is still within what is.

The idea is very appealing but...

there are many tasks that are not exactly "fun" to do as getting rid of the garbage, agriculture and many hard physical jobs that I really don't think people voluntarily would do this; I know it sounds really good but I see it as almost impossible...

[starsha]

This is probably going to be a controversial statement, but I am going to say it anyway.

I think that there is too much aversion to so called ‘negative’ emotions these days. When a person looks at the state of the world and feels angry or even outraged there is a conditioned reaction that says ‘I should not feel that.’ And then the anger is repressed, and nothing is done about the situation at hand. Anger is the appropriate response, and is often the very push needed to get something tangible done.

I am not condoning being blinded by our emotions, and going into blind reactions with out thinking them through, but this whole positive thinking movement can honestly be just another way to bury our head in the sand and not do anything. (I am not pointing a finger at anyone here; I just mean this as a general statement)

If we can learn how to deal with challenging feelings, instead of denying or avoiding them and develop resilience to them, they can just be simply seen as they are. When you are comfortable feeling anger in your own body, and can see it for what it is, then it can actually be a positive motivator for healthy change.

This way whatever emotion is present, it can be dealt with and faced head on and it doesn’t have to cloud our perception of what is really going on in the world. As long as we don’t like to feel negativity there is going to be escapism and wishful thinking.

Honestly I think it is going to take some serious balls to change the things that are happening in our world. I don’t think it can be wished away with positive thinking or micro managing other people to stay positive. i think we may need to be willing to get our hands a little dirty in order to really make a difference.

Maybe i am wrong about this, and if i have offended anyone i apologize. I hope this statement doesn’t get me kicked out of here … I mean no disrespect to anyone, just felt like this needed to be said.

[risveglio]

Since you seem so certain, can you please share with me what those elements are?

What you are asking for is for me to highlight your limitations, thus putting me in a negative spotlight - I will not impose this unnecessary burden, by allowing the limits of one to be my problem.

Ah, because the KING knows all and can tell us what is right or wrong and what my limitations are because he has none?

I say, nobody KNOWS because once someone KNOWS, everything will fail to exist as we "see" it.

[Lord Sidious]

Since you seem so certain, can you please share with me what those elements are?

What you are asking for is for me to highlight your limitations, thus putting me in a negative spotlight - I will not impose this unnecessary burden, by allowing the limits of one to be my problem.

Ah, because the KING knows all and can tell us what is right or wrong and what my limitations are because he has none?

I say, nobody KNOWS because once someone KNOWS, everything will fail to exist as we "see" it.

I think you might find he meant that if he points out to you what he considers your limitations, he would get a post back like you just made.

[Charlie Pecos]

We are coming out of a long cold cosmic winter in the human spirit. Spring is beginning to show signs of it's return in the human consciousness. Everyone here is right, from a certain perspective relevant and unique to it's own understanding. The time is approaching when much of what is common in this world will become uncommon.

[Snowbird]

...What you have stated, will one day become reality, but not for quite a while. ...will not support this or understand the reason for this, for some time into the future.

I say, your overall statement implies "time" is needed, this imposes that "time" is in abundance. It is true that human beings need change to be introduced slightly over a period of "time", lest the change be met with resistance. However, the leap in change can be done in "a moment" with the upcoming generations (for they have not been "conditioned" as deep). These two methods have been used by "the few" (the ruling class/elite) with success.

When will the next generation have the need to learn a better way and rely on a better why if it is never introduced as it should be. It is far too easy to say, "someday", for it diverts the issues of today thus personal accountability and self-reliance is avoided.

I'm not arguing with you King Anthony. I just have more to say.

Again, I agree with you. However, I am simply being realistic. Are you planning to encourage an enforced immediate changeover that removes and erases everyones' retirement funds and investments and plans for the future? Because by the sound of your posts, it appears as though force will become the operative word. Force, is the one thing that I would never want to see happen to those around me or experience it myself. Quite frankly, I prefer choice.

I absolutely agree with Michael Tellinger's approach to a massive changeover to contributionism. I'm ready, but the majority of my neighbors are not ready.

So, now what? :high5:

[king anthony]

...but I see it as almost impossible...

Better to know one's limits then contribute improperly, for "awareness and growth" is not from doing what is easy but rather that which is not.


Ah, because the KING knows all and can tell us what is right or wrong and what my limitations are because he has none?

I say, nobody KNOWS because once someone KNOWS, everything will fail to exist as we "see" it.

I say, I have not spoken of your limitations for your own words speak more clear then anyone could. It is arrogance and ego that does not allow one to accept that another may know something more, gained understanding, have experience and be willing to share. I wish you well on your journey. Cheers!!!


... Are you planning to encourage an enforced immediate changeover that removes and erases everyones' retirement funds and investments and plans for the future? Because by the sound of your posts, it appears as though force will become the operative word. Force, is the one thing that I would never want to see happen to those around me or experience it myself.

I say, I have never implied or stated "force". In fact, I have promoted the opposite; I have said time and time again not to change or takeaway that which does not belong, to simply not consent to what is and to walk away. However, self-preservation prevails and if "the few" or "their" minions use force then one should do what is in their best interest (as "they" have done). Choice can only truly be made when one can make an informed decision and options are available.

[risveglio]

...but I see it as almost impossible...

Better to know one's limits then contribute improperly, for "awareness and growth" is not from doing what is easy but rather that which is not.


Ah, because the KING knows all and can tell us what is right or wrong and what my limitations are because he has none?

I say, nobody KNOWS because once someone KNOWS, everything will fail to exist as we "see" it.

I say, I have not spoken of your limitations for your own words speak more clear then anyone could. It is arrogance and ego that does not allow one to accept that another may know something more, gained understanding, have experience and be willing to share. I wish you well on your journe

It appears to me that you are the arrogant one with the inflated ego KING. your
tone leaves a vile taste in my mouth

[Dawn]

In my dream we (all of humanity, that is) suddenly wake up and are connected with total consciousness to the whole of creation, including all of the knowledge and understanding garnered through the many lifetimes that have been lived..... Well this is a nice thought, but if it happens it will NOT be due to anything I can do now.

So, as an awake human on the planet, I shall begin in the reality where I find myself. And this idea sounds like a good first step. If it does not occur then it will be because not enough people back it, or because a different possibility appears in consciousness.

I like this idea much better than the present reality where 'the masses' are all being victimized and bled dry by the 'elite'.

This idea incorporates the idea of abundance, rather than scarcity. Which means, it begins to take apart the present victim/perpetrator reality at it's roots.

[starsha]

...but I see it as almost impossible...

Better to know one's limits then contribute improperly, for "awareness and growth" is not from doing what is easy but rather that which is not.


Ah, because the KING knows all and can tell us what is right or wrong and what my limitations are because he has none?

I say, nobody KNOWS because once someone KNOWS, everything will fail to exist as we "see" it.

I say, I have not spoken of your limitations for your own words speak more clear then anyone could. It is arrogance and ego that does not allow one to accept that another may know something more, gained understanding, have experience and be willing to share. I wish you well on your journe

It appears to me that you are the arrogant one with the inflated ego KING. your
tone leaves a vile taste in my mouth

I think what King Anthony is getting at is that it can be very challenging to address your own limitations. It's humbling and difficult to see the areas in ourselves where we fall short, and to accept the areas within our personality that may need some improvement. I think he meant to state this in a way that simply points it out to people, and i think his motive is to help out. I personally didn't get the tone from him that you felt Risveglio, i got a tone from him that was straight forward and direct.

It can be hard to communicate in text only where you can not see the person's facial expressions or body language, and so it's easy to assume that you know where a person is coming from, when that is not where they are at. This makes is easy to make assumptions, or to project (the things in you that you don't want to accept) onto the person posting. it's a lot easier to say 'that person is the problem' than to really face head on what you are actually feeling (or avoiding to feel).

[king anthony]

...knowledge and understanding garnered through the many lifetimes that have been lived..... ...it will NOT be due to anything I can do now... So, as an awake human on the planet...

I say, none are more unaware ("asleep") then those who believe they are aware ("awake") - for to say "there is nothing I can do now", based on a belief system (of feel good) is an escape from themselves.


It appears to me that you are the arrogant one with the inflated ego KING. your tone leaves a vile taste in my mouth

I say, it truly appears you have missed the point of my words. Again, I say I wish you well on your journey - meaning, I will not address your words anymore.

[DarMar]

lawful bank :D
sounds to me like: "does anybody know some serial killer which turned to be babysitter? i need someone to keep my baby while i work"

[king anthony]

Click the title of the thread to go there "Courts Afraid of Us Now & Lawful Bank - Roger Hayes British Constitution Group (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31719-Courts-Afraid-of-Us-Now-Lawful-Bank-Roger-Hayes-British-Constitution-Group)" - by, ktlight.

[king anthony]

I think you might find he meant that if he points out to you what he considers your limitations, he would get a post back like you just made.

Thank you.


...Everyone here is right...

I say, this is the very false empowerment that has been imposed, as if there is more then one truth/fact. For this thought, does many things, including keeping the masses divided and never concluding unity in thought.


I'm not arguing with you King Anthony. I just have more to say.

We are not arguing at all. :)


...I am not condoning being blinded by our emotions, and going into blind reactions with out thinking them through, but this whole positive thinking movement can honestly be just another way to bury our head in the sand and not do anything...

Well said.


It can be hard to communicate in text only...

Text, video, voice or in person - the challenge is common as the social conditioning is in most.


...i need someone to keep my baby while i work...

Bok! I think Charles Mason may be released soon... maybe not. Ja ne znati.


To All - a general statement

We are having an open discussion and in discussion there cannot be restraints imposed, such as "feelings" - lest nothing be accomplished.

[starsha]

It can be hard to communicate in text only...

Text, video, voice or in person - the challenge is common as the social conditioning is in most.



Agreed yes, and most people just jump from social conditioning into spiritual conditioning. It is much trickier than it seems to really see beyond the confines of conditioning.

[sandy]

Even taboo's about feelings may be social conditioning>>>>>>>>>>as their frequencies may have more truth than one can comprehend, thus must be felt versus analyzed!

[king anthony]

...as their frequencies may have more truth than one can comprehend, thus must be felt versus analyzed!

Is not the above an example of the below!?


Agreed yes, and most people just jump from social conditioning into spiritual conditioning. It is much trickier than it seems to really see beyond the confines of conditioning.