OMG Something Massive Hit Our Sun!

[Realeyes]

Oh My God, something Massive hit our Sun!?!

This is my first ever thread, please be gentle, I would love to know your opinions on this. I have watched this several times and do not know what to think about this, and keep saying OMG with my jaw dropped. :confused:

This happened 1st October 2011


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKwEYieMGw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKwEYieMGw&feature=player_embedded

[Davidallany]

Wow, this thing must have been really big to have that much effects on the Sun.

[MorningSong]

Yes, realeyes, this "comet" was massive compare to other sungrazing comets I have seen in the past few years. Spaceweather.com claims that the comet was only discovered on Friday and had not been "named" by official agencies.....yeah.

Lasco 2 and 3 had been frozen on Sept 30 so as of yesterday, it would not upload the photograms. There were some fortunate souls who knew how to get the info and posted it on YT. I posted a couple others over at the "Sun Stuff" What's Up!" thread.

Now, today, if you go to the SOHO latest images page, you can then go to the movie theater and see more images, although some are still missing.

It appears that the huge CME that erupted after the comet impacted is from the back-side of the sun and will not be geo-effective, but other CME's around that time are Earth-bound. I base my opinion of data that is publically available, so I may be in error..... only time (and surely not NASA) will tell.

I also say "heads up" for strong EQs for the next few days.... I have documented that often sun-grazing comets are followed by such earthly things.

[ViralSpiral]

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/smiles/smiles_57.gif



I captured an image of it



http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2011/c2/20111001/20111001_1700_c2_512.jpg

[finally there!!!]

That's amazing thanks for showing us!!!

Maybe that's why the sun is splitting the trees here in Ireland. I have never seen the weather so good here for this time of year,but who's complaining? certainly not me,I'm off to the beach in October in Ireland:cool:

Love and Respect

[Pete]

At the beginning of the vid there was another huge ejection before the comet in question came into view.

[Violet]

That's amazing thanks for showing us!!!

Maybe that's why the sun is splitting the trees here in Ireland. I have never seen the weather so good here for this time of year,but who's complaining? certainly not me,I'm off to the beach in October in Ireland:cool:

Love and Respect

Same here in Belgium. 27°C and it's been like this since for over a week now. Saturday we've even had 28°C in some village and that day made October the hottest October ever.
Wednesday has predicted rain.

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At the beginning of the vid there was another huge ejection before the comet in question came into view.

Isn't that just regular sun explosions.

[pyrangello]

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction,Newtons law-HMMMMMMMMM!

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

I found this short video...


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I do feel very fortunate to be able to witness this.
Last year I would never have dreamt of seeing comets flying into the sun. Truly amazing.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hm.... that appeared to be massive! How could such a big bright object not be detected sooner!? That's very strange...

Another strange thing is that the explosion is on the other side of the hit... the Sun seems pretty quiet on the side with the "comet".

[Lisab]

Absolutely amazing thankyou Realeyes.x

[Tarka the Duck]

I read this on the space weather site:

COMET AND CME: A comet discovered by amateur astronomers on Friday, Sept. 30th, disintegrated in spectacular fashion the very next day when it plunged into the sun. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the comet's last hours. The end was punctuated by an unexpected explosion; click on the image to set the scene in motion:

Watch the movie again. The timing of the CME so soon after the comet dove into the sun suggests a link. But what? There is no known mechanism for comets to trigger solar explosions. Before 2011 most solar physicists would have discounted the events of Oct. 1st as pure coincidence--and pure coincidence is still the most likely explanation. Earlier this year, however, the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) watched another sungrazer disintegrate in the sun's atmosphere. On July 5, 2011, the unnamed comet appeared to interact with plasma and magnetic fields in its surroundings as it fell apart. Could a puny comet cause a magnetic instability that might propagate and blossom into a impressive CME? The question is not so crazy as it once seemed to be.

[AMystic3434]

I dont know what happened. But Im very skeptical of these ameture astromonists who claim they got everything all figured out like these guys dutch and terrell. I think they are mainly just spreading fear that is not true. And all these people that believe them are just being mislead. Very bad to do that to people.

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

I dont know what happened. But Im very skeptical of these ameture astromonists who claim they got everything all figured out like these guys dutch and terrell. I think they are mainly just spreading fear that is not true. And all these people that believe them are just being mislead. Very bad to do that to people.

I feel no fear.
Just observing.
I am grateful for all the information, it is up to the individual to be discerning with the information presented.
Imagine if no one did anything, we would never be lucky enough to witness such an event happening.

[Realeyes]

Thanks everyone for your comments, I so appreciate this. :grouphug:

I am wondering if it is normal for a comet's tail to be so BIG? My mind boggles as to why this was only spotted last Friday - did it just suddenly 'appear' from nowhere? :confused:

Has anyone got any idea as to 'how' big this is/was? Also, a rough guess to how fast it was travelling? :target:

And..... spinning right out of the normal box of thought - is there any possibility that this wasn't a 'comet' but something 'else' like some top secret ET technology???? Something that could dissapate the Sun's flares away from Earth, sort of like discharging a battery - but only a tempory thing?
Or could this be something even bigger and that a Space War is going on??? :alien:

I am a very curious novice, I don't know much at all about this subject, so please pardon my ignorance - yet 'something' did happen; 'whatever' it is/was - it was Massive and the Sun seemed to responsed immediately IMHO. ;)

[AMystic3434]

I dont know what happened. But Im very skeptical of these ameture astromonists who claim they got everything all figured out like these guys dutch and terrell. I think they are mainly just spreading fear that is not true. And all these people that believe them are just being mislead. Very bad to do that to people.

I feel no fear.
Just observing.
I am grateful for all the information, it is up to the individual to be discerning with the information presented.
Imagine if no one did anything, we would never be lucky enough to witness such an event happening.

all Im saying is these guys probably have no idea what they are talking about and what they are looking at but they think they got it figured out. Its a delusion. If what they are talking about is true I would expect expert astronomists to come forward with this very important information. Im not talking about Nasa or main stream. Not all experts work for the government Im sure there are independent agencies or something. I wouldnt be surprised if they were just trying to get as much hits on there youtube channell as possible, im sure they have there own personal reason for that. I doubt them.

[Cjay]

It's hard to believe something that big didn't get discovered sooner. It must have been a very big magnet to cause such a massive CME. It reminds me of when a watermelon is shot, the far side gets blown out.

[MiguelQ]

Its sooo hot here in portugal, something like 30ºC in October? Never was like this...

[WhiteFeather]

Looks real to me. Its good to see Dutchsinse back. Thanks for This Awesome Post.

[Realeyes]

It is official that this is the hottest start to October ever in the UK.
Today in the UK it is 29 degrees, yesterday was even hotter 30+ degrees.
Just read the weather forecast and they are saying 'snow' expected for the end of the week! Crazy! :crazy:

[MorningSong]

@AMystic3434: You wrote: "Not all experts work for the government Im sure there are independent agencies or something."

Not all experts have PhD's hanging on their walls and most expert PhDs are slaves of the system, bound to silence. Could you find those non-governative sources you wish to see here? Why do you hackle the messengers? Do you not have eyes to see and ears to hear? Yes? Then do with what you wish with the information in your own mind, in your own life. I prefer to be as informed as I possibly can to avoid the fear and appreciate the joint effort here at Avalon.

PS: About crazy weather, yes, it is still very unseasonally hot (mid 20's C to low 30's C daytime temps) here in the Alps, and yes, the weather reports say that this coming weekend, temperature will be dropping to lows about 7° C with rain on it's way..... which sometimes also means snow.

[Ilie Pandia]

It reminds me of when a watermelon is shot, the far side gets blown out.

Yes, because the bullet goes through the melon and the forces blow out the back... but if that comet would have gone through the Sun and out the other side we would not have this conversation :biggrin:

[Ilie Pandia]

I dont know what happened. But Im very skeptical of these ameture astromonists who claim they got everything all figured out like these guys dutch and terrell. I think they are mainly just spreading fear that is not true. And all these people that believe them are just being mislead. Very bad to do that to people.

Hello,

It is of course your choice to be skeptical of any information you find. However Dutch does not claim he has everything figured out and he is not "mainly spreading fear that is not true". That was a generalization that was uncalled for.

I don't always agree with Dutch but he has a level head, he presents the data as he finds it (and with well documented links), and without the creepy background music you find on most Youtube so called "reports"!

I'd welcome Dutch's report style here at Avalon.

[Davidallany]

Yes, because the bullet goes through the melon and the forces blow out the back... but if that comet would have gone through the Sun and out the other side we would not have this conversation
If the Sun can be utilized as a star gate for interstellar travel, then this video could be our first glimpse of that. The object could have travel great distances upon entering the gate, it could have spent 20 of our years somewhere out there, before re-entering our solar system.

[Operator]

Yes, because the bullet goes through the melon and the forces blow out the back... but if that comet would have gone through the Sun and out the other side we would not have this conversation
If the Sun can be utilized as a star gate for interstellar travel, then this video could be our first glimpse of that. The object could have travel great distances upon entering the gate, it could have spent 20 of our years somewhere out there, before re-entering our solar system.

Same thought here ... we assume the sun is a huge massive and solid object but how do we know that's correct ?
For starters the surface temperature is said to be lower than the outside sphere. There is a hollow earth theory so
why not a hollow sun theory too ? And after all isn't the sun another variant of a gas giant ?

So yeah, let's open up our minds and see what's new under the sun (pun intended) ! ;)

[the trojan]

Yes, because the bullet goes through the melon and the forces blow out the back... but if that comet would have gone through the Sun and out the other side we would not have this conversation
If the Sun can be utilized as a star gate for interstellar travel, then this video could be our first glimpse of that. The object could have travel great distances upon entering the gate, it could have spent 20 of our years somewhere out there, before re-entering our solar system.

anything is possible,we humans just dont know.
although some profess the opposite.

[Realeyes]

Yes, because the bullet goes through the melon and the forces blow out the back... but if that comet would have gone through the Sun and out the other side we would not have this conversation
If the Sun can be utilized as a star gate for interstellar travel, then this video could be our first glimpse of that. The object could have travel great distances upon entering the gate, it could have spent 20 of our years somewhere out there, before re-entering our solar system.

Same thought here ... we assume the sun is a huge massive and solid object but how do we know that's correct ?
For starters the surface temperature is said to be lower than the outside sphere. There is a hollow earth theory so
why not a hollow sun theory too ? And after all isn't the sun another variant of a gas giant ?

So yeah, let's open up our minds and see what's new under the sun (pun intended) ! ;)

I so love these out of the box thoughts - please keep them coming!

Operator I love your pun "Let's open up our minds and see what's new under the sun!" Absolutely Brilliant!!! :cool:

[ulli]

About the sun being hollow at the center:

Some years ago I came across the electric sun theory, and am pretty convinced now that things are different from what "white" science tells us.

Here is a website where this is being discussed in more detail.

http://www.electric-cosmos.org/sun.htm

Sunspots and Coronal Holes
In a plasma, both the dimensions and the voltages of the anode tufts depend on the current density at that location (near the anode). The tufts appear and/or disappear, as needed, to maintain a certain required relationship between +ion and electron numbers in the total current. This property of anode tuft plasmas was discovered, quantified, and reported by Irving Langmuir over fifty years ago.
In the Electric Sun model, as with any plasma discharge, tufting disappears wherever the flux of incoming electrons impinging onto a given area of the Sun's surface is not sufficiently strong to require the shielding produced by the plasma double layer. At any such location, the anode tufting collapses and we can see down to the actual anode surface of the Sun. Since there is no arc discharge occurring in these locations, they appear darker than the surrounding area and are termed "sunspots". Of course, if a tremendous amount of energy were being produced in the Sun's interior, the spot should be brighter and hotter than the surrounding photosphere. The fact that sunspots are dark and cool strongly supports the contention that very little, if anything, is going on in the Sun's interior.

[Davidallany]

anything is possible,we humans just dont know.
although some profess the opposite.

How do you know that humans do not know, aren't you professing to know that we humans do not know? What if some humans do know? It is obvious that I do not know that's why I theorize, and it seems that you don't know. But that doesn't mean all humans don't know.

[Peace of Mind]

When I stare into the sun it looks like a giant hole in the sky. I've always thought of it as a Star gate and not just some giant ball of gas burning endlessly in space....where space is also said to have no oxygen.

Peace

[Davidallany]

If memory serves, I think John Lear stated in a Camelot project interview that the Sun isn't even hot and that its an electro magnetic body, and the heat felt on Earth is due to the microwaves emitted from the bright orb.

[Lifebringer]

Thanks Dutch.
Remarkable that our space centers and observation didn't say a word.

[777]

In the words of Eddie Vedder: "There's a trapdoor in the sun.......immortality"

I strongly believe this to be true.

[Guest]

Uh, would like to say -has been unusually hot here in SoCal and dry with a cloud cover sometimes. SoCal is expecting drops in temperature and rain by midweek and possibly snow in the higher elevations.

Nora

we are all related

[randles]

Here in Tenerife too. Hot Humid, No air....
Its sooo hot here in portugal, something like 30ºC in October? Never was like this...

[randles]

Thank You for this post !!
I was amazed, the sun just simply absorbed it, and then..I don't know what it was, but ..Wow !
Amazing, Beautiful ....Pure energy in Motion

:)

[ulli]

In the words of Eddie Vedder: "There's a trapdoor in the sun.......immortality"

I strongly believe this to be true.


Remind's me of Gurdjieff's Ray of Creation.
He states the majority of people who go with the general flow end up becoming biosphere food for the moon.
Those who want to become free must struggle in the opposite direction, towards the level of the sun, then galactic, finally the Absolute.

Here is a diagram found on the web (Wikipedia...Ray of Creation):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Bodiesrayofcreation.JPG

[777]

In the words of Eddie Vedder: "There's a trapdoor in the sun.......immortality"

I strongly believe this to be true.


Remind's me of Gurdjieff's Ray of Creation.
He states the majority of people who go with the general flow end up becoming biosphere food for the moon.
Those who want to become free must struggle in the opposite direction, towards the level of the sun, then galactic, finally the Absolute.

Here is a diagram found on the web (Wikipedia...Ray of Creation):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Bodiesrayofcreation.JPG

That resonates well with me Ulli. I've never seen it before yet it's massively familiar (always a good sign!). Thanks for sharing.

[Sidney]

Maybe its just me, but there is something terribly deliberate about this event. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it just sorta looks like a "Ready,Aim, Fire", and "BullsEye!!!!"

[Realeyes]

My hubby has a warped sense of humour at times. He just said to me after watching the video link again - "Well the president or the prime minister will be needing to make an announcement, that 'terrorists' are now shooting at our Sun" - LOL - I LMAO!

He always knows how to see things in a light heart.

Sorry if this offends anyone, I don't mean to - but just had to share for those with a tempory warped sense of humour. ;)

[passiglight]

I wonder who has the most to gain by poking the stick in the fire,,,,,,,,,,,

If you know who i have in mind then you'll know,"they" have always said" it will come from the sun"

Right on schedule then,,,,,,,,,

The first of many i shouldn't wonder,,,,,,,,,

See him,,,,,,we do

[the trojan]

rgeardless of how the sun reacted....
WHAT THE **** WAS THAT THING THAT HIT THE SUN,IT WAS ALMOST THE SIZE OF THE SUN IF NOT BIGGER EVEN THOUGH THINNER AND SLIGHTLY LESS WIDE ,BUT LONGER.....hold on I just started giggling at myself............okay.. I NEED AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT WAS,AND I DONT CARE IF IT CAME FROM THE BACK OR THE FRONT OR WHEREVER..WHAT WAS THAT CATALYST.

AND I HAVE MY TRUNKS OUT FOR TWO DAYS FROM NOW WHEN IT WILL BE HEATWAVE TIME AGAIN.
OOOPS still shouting!

[Realeyes]

I wonder who has the most to gain by poking the stick in the fire,,,,,,,,,,,

If you know who i have in mind then you'll know,"they" have always said" it will come from the sun"

Right on schedule then,,,,,,,,,

The first of many i shouldn't wonder,,,,,,,,,

See him,,,,,,we do

Hi Passiglight,
I am obviously a bit thick here; what you say could mean numerous things - could you be more specific?
Thanks

[ulli]

In the words of Eddie Vedder: "There's a trapdoor in the sun.......immortality"

I strongly believe this to be true.


Remind's me of Gurdjieff's Ray of Creation.
He states the majority of people who go with the general flow end up becoming biosphere food for the moon.
Those who want to become free must struggle in the opposite direction, towards the level of the sun, then galactic, finally the Absolute.

Here is a diagram found on the web (Wikipedia...Ray of Creation):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Bodiesrayofcreation.JPG

That resonates well with me Ulli. I've never seen it before yet it's massively familiar (always a good sign!). Thanks for sharing.

It's much more ancient than Gurdjieff, of course.
He blended Alchemy, Hermetics, Tibetan, Sumerian, Kabbalah, Sufism, mystery school knowledge.
The notes are the octaves, corresponding to the numbers, which represent the number of laws that each world corresponds to.
With each higher world, the corresponding laws become half of what they were before.
Hence freedoms are gained.
The trick is finding out what is needed to gain entrance to those worlds.

[Realeyes]

rgeardless of how the sun reacted....
WHAT THE **** WAS THAT THING THAT HIT THE SUN,IT WAS ALMOST THE SIZE OF THE SUN IF NOT BIGGER EVEN THOUGH THINNER AND SLIGHTLY LESS WIDE ,BUT LONGER.....hold on I just started giggling at myself............okay.. I NEED AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT WAS,AND I DONT CARE IF IT CAME FROM THE BACK OR THE FRONT OR WHEREVER..WHAT WAS THAT CATALYST.

AND I HAVE MY TRUNKS OUT FOR TWO DAYS FROM NOW WHEN IT WILL BE HEATWAVE TIME AGAIN.
OOOPS still shouting!

LMAO! Thanks....you would get on well with my hubby!

I too want to know what the **** was that, that hit the Sun! I asked earlier if comet tails could be 'that' big....

[MorningSong]

I found these photograms....quite interesting. I guess they are the "negatives" of the Lasco2 photograms or something.

The shape of the "comet" can be seen in a different perspective....looks like it broke away into 2 pieces before impact....pretty neat to ponder on.

Here's just one of the photograms:

http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/seeds/realtime/2011/10/det_png/20111001_1624_seeds.png



http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/seeds/dailymkmovie.php?cme=20111001&r

[passiglight]

2 points i'd like to draw attention to there Ulli,,,,

your partial quote above,," Ray of Creation. " So on the money,,,your frequency is sooo high,,,,,

You have it ,,,in a group of 3 ,,,,,DNA,, Soul,,, Vehicle,,,,,,

all about to metamorph,

cosmic love energy








In the words of Eddie Vedder: "There's a trapdoor in the sun.......immortality"

I strongly believe this to be true.


Remind's me of Gurdjieff's Ray of Creation.
He states the majority of people who go with the general flow end up becoming biosphere food for the moon.
Those who want to become free must struggle in the opposite direction, towards the level of the sun, then galactic, finally the Absolute.

Here is a diagram found on the web (Wikipedia...Ray of Creation):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Bodiesrayofcreation.JPG

That resonates well with me Ulli. I've never seen it before yet it's massively familiar (always a good sign!). Thanks for sharing.

It's much more ancient than Gurdjieff, of course.
He blended Alchemy, Hermetics, Tibetan, Sumerian, Kabbalah, Sufism, mystery school knowledge.
The notes are the octaves, corresponding to the numbers, which represent the number of laws that each world corresponds to.
With each higher world, the corresponding laws become half of what they were before.
Hence freedoms are gained.
The trick is finding out what is needed to gain entrance to those worlds.

[DevilPigeon]

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Could it be that the universe that we observe, along with the interactions within, is a larger-scale version of human conception? Or rather, to flip it, that human conception is a smaller-scale version of the interactions of the larger-scale universe? Using that analogy, comets would be (or contain) "the seed of life".

On a possible tangent, I've also got a sense that time is very different depending on scale - eg we mere mortals looking out at the vastness of the universe see events happening at a snails crawl, yet i get the impression that if we were looking "in" on the universe from an outside viewpoint, then universe-scale events would happen on a much shorter timescale. Almost as if time is relative to the size of the observer against the size of the observed.

[gooty64]

A FIRE tonado just torched my barn here in the midwest! The vortex was a half mile wide with glowing meteor rocks whirling around the red hot core of the funnel. The cow never had a chance!

[ulli]

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Could it be that the universe that we observe, along with the interactions within, is a larger-scale version of human conception? Or rather, to flip it, that human conception is a smaller-scale version of the interactions of the larger-scale universe? Using that analogy, comets would be (or contain) "the seed of life".

On a possible tangent, I've also got a sense that time is very different depending on scale - eg we mere mortals looking out at the vastness of the universe see events happening at a snails crawl, yet i get the impression that if we were looking "in" on the universe from an outside viewpoint, then universe-scale events would happen on a much shorter timescale. Almost as if time is relative to the size of the observer against the size of the observed.

Bingo, devil of the pidgeons.
I now name you DevilEagle!

[MorningSong]

gooty64, are you serious or are you joking?

[Violet]

Is there a way we can trace the course of this unknown comet to its origins?

Looks like a very powerful thing to

1) reach the sun in the first place
2) cause that effect

Can a simple rock do something like that?

[NeoEmc2]

Yes, because the bullet goes through the melon and the forces blow out the back... but if that comet would have gone through the Sun and out the other side we would not have this conversation
If the Sun can be utilized as a star gate for interstellar travel, then this video could be our first glimpse of that. The object could have travel great distances upon entering the gate, it could have spent 20 of our years somewhere out there, before re-entering our solar system.

this reminds me of the modern version of the move Lost in Space. There is a scene in the beginning of the movie where they have no choice but to plunge their ship directly into the sun with the intention of coming out the other side. When they do this they end up in an uncharted area of space - hence why they get lost.

Here's the clip - one of the best scenes IMO

o9-CTryNALU

[vibrations]

Guys, this explanation seams to me quite reasonable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5K0OvkgPTg&feature=feedu

The sun is pretty hot stuff, so I would say that the theory about the vaporising the comet is not so strange. And there were no flare connected with this event.

[Sidney]

A FIRE tonado just torched my barn here in the midwest! The vortex was a half mile wide with glowing meteor rocks whirling around the red hot core of the funnel. The cow never had a chance!

OMG, really? Where are you located?

[Sidney]

I have watched this a bunch of times, (thank you morningsong for posting the dual view), in slo motion, and It almost looks like it "went in" one side and "out" the other. I mean if you take an arrow, and shoot it through a round object, you would get pretty much the same effect .

Ok, so Theoretically, there have been ufos,crafts, flying in and out of the sun, lots of folks have witnessed this with the SOHO cameras/videos. So Lets just say (theoretically) that a species of intelligence, live inside the sun, and (theoretically) they are at war with "someone", and we have just witnessed (theoretically) a huge bombardment.

Knowing everything that we know, (and don't know), and given the amount of missing footage from the daily SOHO videos lately, who knows what the heck is going on up there. I know its far-fetched, but, seriously, watch that even over and over in slow motion, add some imagination, and its really not all that far-fetched.

Am I saying this is what occurred?? No, but my gut instinct tells me this aint no ordinary comet!!!!!:flame::flame::flame:

[Sidney]

Guys, this explanation seams to me quite reasonable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5K0OvkgPTg&feature=feedu

The sun is pretty hot stuff, so I would say that the theory about the vaporising the comet is not so strange. And there were no flare connected with this event.

This is just one persons hypothesis, I personally am not buying it. Thats just my opinion, for what it's worth. Cheers

[777]

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Could it be that the universe that we observe, along with the interactions within, is a larger-scale version of human conception? Or rather, to flip it, that human conception is a smaller-scale version of the interactions of the larger-scale universe? Using that analogy, comets would be (or contain) "the seed of life".

On a possible tangent, I've also got a sense that time is very different depending on scale - eg we mere mortals looking out at the vastness of the universe see events happening at a snails crawl, yet i get the impression that if we were looking "in" on the universe from an outside viewpoint, then universe-scale events would happen on a much shorter timescale. Almost as if time is relative to the size of the observer against the size of the observed.

Bingo, devil of the pidgeons.
I now name you DevilEagle!

I second that! I don't think I've agreed with a post on here more emphatically than this one.

[vibrations]

off course, as you say, just one personally opinion. Where is the truth in all this mess, who knows. As I saw a lot of absolutelly strange object entering and coming out of the sun, the size of various Earths, in this case, I am closer to the vaporizing theory, but iot's also just my thinking.

[Maia Gabrial]

There's something missing in this short video. There was a white object moving above the sun that even the impact made move. Honestly, I don't know what that object is....So, I could be wrong about it, but still it is missing in this one....

[gooty64]

A FIRE tonado just torched my barn here in the midwest! The vortex was a half mile wide with glowing meteor rocks whirling around the red hot core of the funnel. The cow never had a chance!

OMG, really? Where are you located?

Sorry, I was just spazzing -out! I guess the people that were posting hot weather notices were getting to me. OMG, it's a few degrees above normal-it must be the solar flare!

[kersley]

forget about the comet, it's gone now. but what about that other object passing above?
What was it? it looks to me that someone or something was aiming at that passing object but the sun got in the way..
Why are you all laughing? it is possible.. ps the last few days it's been really hot for this time of year. what's going on?

[Sidney]

A FIRE tonado just torched my barn here in the midwest! The vortex was a half mile wide with glowing meteor rocks whirling around the red hot core of the funnel. The cow never had a chance!

OMG, really? Where are you located?

Sorry, I was just spazzing -out! I guess the people that were posting hot weather notices were getting to me. OMG, it's a few degrees above normal-it must be the solar flare!


LMAO:flame::flame::flame:

[Ontarioguy]

Kersley, I aint laughing...no way! Because it has been overly dry and sunny almost every day here too where I live. And as I have said a few weeks ago, it is out of "character" for here. Bigtime! There has been hardly any rainy days all summer throughout July and August, and then to boot it is continuing on into the fall here. Hardly any rainy days. As wonderful as it is, it concerns me in that it is very out of the ordinary for here. I believe we hit a record temperature just last thursday here. And then I just saw that sunshine and above normal temperatures are predicted here the rest of this week. I almost have to wonder if all the "cloud making" and weather manipulating persons have left their posts and gone into hiding in some bunker or something?? Haha.

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Hi there starchild111, it is more than a few degrees above normal here....and I know it sounds repetitious, but ya'd have to have lived here all your life to understand what I mean by it. I promise not to mention it any more though....hahaha :p . Honest :rolleyes:

[Sidney]

Kersley, I aint laughing...no way! Because it has been overly dry and sunny almost every day here too where I live. And as I have said a few weeks ago, it is out of "character" for here. Bigtime! There has been hardly any rainy days all summer throughout July and August, and then to boot it is continuing on into the fall here. Hardly any rainy days. As wonderful as it is, it concerns me in that it is very out of the ordinary for here. I believe we hit a record temperature just last thursday here. And then I just saw that sunshine and above normal temperatures are predicted here the rest of this week. I almost have to wonder if all the "cloud making" and weather manipulating persons have left their posts and gone into hiding in some bunker or something?? Haha.

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Hi there starchild111, it is more than a few degrees above normal here....and I know it sounds repetitious, but ya'd have to have lived here all your life to understand what I mean by it. I promise not to mention it any more though....hahaha :p . Honest :rolleyes:

I totally believe you. Its been unseasonably warm here too. Could go swimming but the pool is closed. LOL

[Ammit]

This was a fantastic video and thread to watch. I dont know if it was a comet, meteor, a missile or even the USS Enterprise taking a short cut at warp. All I know is that it`s very hot here in the UK and it seems around the world too. I have still got plants in my garden that would have been finished ages ago compared to other years.

I am sat here writing this as I have tried to sleep but cannot as it is soo hot, but, I can see from my fixed compass in my garden that north has moved ( more to the east now ), and the sun is setting way off mark ( more to the south ), again compared to last year.

Ammit

[Sidney]

forget about the comet, it's gone now. but what about that other object passing above?
What was it? it looks to me that someone or something was aiming at that passing object but the sun got in the way..
Why are you all laughing? it is possible.. ps the last few days it's been really hot for this time of year. what's going on?

Odd that that object is visible only for a second. There is a line through it as the planets have when passing. I dont know enough about the celestial bodies to even guess, maybe someone with experience and know how can figure out what is is.

[RMorgan]

It´s mercury.

[Pete]

I am sat here writing this as I have tried to sleep but cannot as it is soo hot, but, I can see from my fixed compass in my garden that north has moved ( more to the east now ), and the sun is setting way off mark ( more to the south ), again compared to last year.

Ammit[/QUOTE]

I think this is a very important observation, I am no astronomer or even an enthusiast, but I believe polar shift generally happens almost imperceptibly. It also seems to me that the moon and sun are tracking across the sky differently.

Is there a way to check this?

[Realeyes]

Well.... I am still scratching my head this end as to ‘what’ actually happened to our Sun on the 1st of October. I am still unclear ‘if’ this was just an unusual (massive) comet that decided to do something out of the ‘norm’ and strike our Sun creating a spectacular display. My intuitiveness is saying there is a Bigger story to all of this. The fact that it was only spotted just a day before is very suspect....let alone all the other unanswered questions that naturally arise.

I still haven’t forgotten the Sun temporarily blacking out this Spring – that I personally witnessed and there were no crystal clear explanations to this event either. There also seems to be a lot of wild unexplained phenomena occurring in the last number of years with plasma spacecraft, planetoid craft etc being seen around our Sun and Earth. Something is brewing; I feel it deep inside of me - many feel this. If the Sun is a Stargate, then it is getting very busy!

I am sure there are secret black operatives and government specialised scientists etc reading this post? I warmly invite you to share a few lines as to what you may know or understand about these unprecedented events that have been occurring with our Sun. There are many of us here on Avalon who has a passionate hunger to Know the real truth; we have open minds, great discernment, a light heart and an inquisitive mind and spiritual desire to know more. ;)

[Realeyes]

After a night of contemplating, I have a personal theory I would like to share – Could this extraordinary event be partly explained with ‘Energy Fields’ or ‘Magnetic Fields’???? I will explain.

As I am understanding this puzzle so far from reading these posts and web searching, there seems to be the scientific understanding that Comets will naturally break up as they get closer to the Sun – thus making it near impossible to actually ‘strike’ the Sun.... Mmmm... ‘IF’ this is true then the solar flare that occurred immediately afterwards was simply a rare coincidence. ?????..., IMHO I sense science has much more to learn on this subject.

Speaking for myself, I have the human habit of perceiving reality physical and solid, where a ‘strike’ would be physical contact to something else that is also physical, i.e. I physically bumped into a tree. But what if I expanded upon this thought and put into the equation the magnetic fields or energy fields that surround all physical things? This would mean ‘contact’ or ‘engagement’ would happen when their individual ‘fields’ met. So in this analogy, my energy fields and the tree’s energy fields engaged ‘before’ the physical part of us made contact. Could this be what we are seeing with this ‘comet’ and the Sun flare; was this an inertia of ‘fields’ colliding? IF so, then the comet’s fields was the ‘cause’ for the Sun’s ‘reaction’ = Solar Flare.

Do you remember this? Another comet (May 10th 2011) heads towards the Sun with an immediate Solar flare released (reaction).

“SOHO (NASA-ESA Solar & Heliospheric Observatory) watched as a fairly bright comet drove towards the Sun in a white streak and was not seen again after its close encounter (May 10-11, 2011). The comet, probably part of the Kreutz family of comets, was discovered by amateur astronomer Sergey Shurpakov. In this coronagraph the Sun (represented by a white circle) is blocked by the red occulting disk so that the faint structures in the Sun's corona can be discerned. Interestingly, a coronal mass ejection blasted out to the right just as the comet is approaching the Sun. Scientists, however, have yet to find a convincing physical connection between sun-grazing comets and coronal mass ejections. In fact, analysis of this CME using images from the Solar Dynamics Observatory shows that the CME erupted before the comet came close enough to the solar surface to interact with strong magnetic fields.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nJlsp0BXBlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nJlsp0BXBlE

PS. I am also not sure if the event on the 1st Oct was a ‘comet’ its length was enormous; but that’s another puzzle for another time.

[Poly Hedra]

This article today and this thread seems to a case of synchronicity for me so I thought I would share. Mainstream media talking about a CME.
Report from the BBC about how to find your way without technology.

"It's not every week that a massive solar flare knocks out the GPS network, but all it takes is a flat battery or a mechanical fault to hobble your automated orientation aids."


source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15125287

[RedeZra]

'vintageozarks' posted this comment one week ago in response to this youtube clip




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Today at 4:45 pm CST in Galmey Missouri 65779 low in the northern sky (we had a beautiful blue sky day) I saw what I will go to my death believing to be Comet Elenin go by. It was the most beautiful thing I ever saw. I went by so fast from east to west that I barely had time to call for my husband to come and look and it was gone. It was about the size of twenty airlines and had a tail about 100x longer than the comet core. All of it showed up as pure white. It was traveling extremely fast

vintageozarks

[whenyournex2me]

cool... :)

[Sidney]

Hi vintage ozarks, thank you for posting this vid. I was wondering, you had stated that it was moving very fast, but in this video the "second sun" or whatever you want to call it, is pretty much stationary. I am wondering if the video is of Nibiru, and what you was was Elenin, or perhaps vice versa. Any thoughts on this guys??

[DeDukshyn]

I dont know what happened. But Im very skeptical of these ameture astromonists who claim they got everything all figured out like these guys dutch and terrell. I think they are mainly just spreading fear that is not true. And all these people that believe them are just being mislead. Very bad to do that to people.

That's why some of us checked for other sources and found that indeed it was a comet hitting the sun, and verified by independent parties. Whether the Comet caused the CME or not is still being debated.

I am no longer very "skeptical" of things because I have methods for determine confidence levels in that which I experience and am exposed to. A single source of 3rd party info is almost useless without something substantial to back it up (ie scientific evidence, multiple corroborations, theory based on advanced science at least, etc). This is likely why so many people are so afraid of conspiracy theories or are hardcore skeptics -- those people likely can't discern reality from fantasy very well so for them it is always "safer" to not believe anything, but if something looks far out, it may need just a closer look. 9/11 "looked" to be perpetrated by Al Queda goons, but closer examinations reveals that was impossible - and this will one day be known as "fact" as opposed to "conspiracy theory".

[Ontarioguy]

I can recall Viking I believe it was who posted back in May of a site about Lord Ra-El who claimed responsibility for the HUGE Tornado in Joplin Missouri. Well I see now that Lord Ra El is still at it, and is now claiming responsibility for this HUGE Solar Flare activity. And uses current events to tie in with what is going on and why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dKzFQ30VHFY

[DeDukshyn]

I can recall Viking I believe it was who posted back in May of a site about Lord Ra-El who claimed responsibility for the HUGE Tornado in Joplin Missouri. Well I see now that Lord Ra El is still at it, and is now claiming responsibility for this HUGE Solar Flare activity. And uses current events to tie in with what is going on and why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dKzFQ30VHFY

I think anyone calling them self "Lord" something, must have a certain level of ego to do that - the kind of level that screams (I'm a Farce!). Even Jesus didn't consider himself king or lord of anything. Son of man is what he called himself.

[RedeZra]

Hi vintage ozarks, thank you for posting this vid. I was wondering, you had stated that it was moving very fast, but in this video the "second sun" or whatever you want to call it, is pretty much stationary. I am wondering if the video is of Nibiru, and what you was was Elenin, or perhaps vice versa. Any thoughts on this guys??

hi there starchild

this vid is just one of many filming an anomaly with the sun which could very well show a pretty big planet

that is not supposed to be there

but can be spotted nonetheless


still it should not come as a surprise if we are in a binary system that one of it's outer planets might come a little close to our home here on earth


i didn't see the comet shoot by but this guy 'vintageozarks' posted that comment beneath the vid ; )

[Realeyes]

Here is what Nassim Haramein has to say about the Earth size 'ships' travelling into our Sun - Are we witnessing an E.T. Portal??? Could this be what is really happening with our Sun??? ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YX1qSN1dwUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YX1qSN1dwUI