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Patrikas
4th October 2011, 03:28
This is worth taking a look at
http://www.adyaclarity.biz/
NancyV
4th October 2011, 20:43
If Adya Clarity does even half of what it is said to do it will be amazing! A few days ago I ran across this info and subsequently watched several videos and read a lot about the purifying effects of Adya Clarity on water and within the body. Some of the testimonials I saw and read said it did the following for them after just a short time of using it:
cured arthritis
cleared up bad complexion
dissolved kidney and gall stones
reversed pain
cleared up foggy thinking
started growing hair back for bald man
eliminated all parasites
cured candida
eliminates all tartar on teeth
reverses receding gum line
helps eyesight improve
protects from radiation
There were many more, too many to mention. I thought it was worth a try so I ordered some yesterday and should get it within a week. If it's as amazing as some say it is I'll post again with any positive results.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqd9B066kTk&feature=related
ThePythonicCow
4th October 2011, 23:20
Thanks, NancyV, for providing some commentary on the link in the first post. With just the first link, I might have gone scurrying to the Forum Guidelines (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/faq.php?faq=avalonguidelines#faq_membershipguidelines) to quote the part about "naked links" or some such. It is better for the one poster to provide a summary of the content of linked material, than to send a hundred readers each off to determine that.
But you post handles that nicely - thanks!
If the stuff is good let us know, though I am guessing that good water mineralization will take more than a few weeks to have noticeable affect.
Patrikas
4th October 2011, 23:51
Hi nancy,
i only came across it two days ago via a webinar link i came across so i booked a seat so to speak and watched it then spent 4 hours or so browsing around the net for info about the mineral and various other things related to black mica or "Biotite " i have really good feeling about this product and will be ordering some for our faimily too..stay well
Patrikas
5th October 2011, 00:01
Paul,
after watching the webinar and researching it round the net it got pretty late and i had work in the morning and was actually prettty excited to share it here.....i thought the thread title was pretty self explanatory ,and my comments were" exactly"what" i felt.....this product will do wonders for decalcifycation of the body as well as many other wonderfull things ........its a gift from the earth to everyone ........stay well
Avocadess
5th October 2011, 00:03
I've been using Adya Clarity for over a year. I really can't say what it does or does not "cure," but I do believe that it truly does make the water good to drink -- and mineralizes. Black Mica is said to do the same thing, but they both present so differently I haven't been able to discern the real difference between the two, although I believe they are two forms of the same thing. I don't know if the video above shows it, but I have also seen videos where entire lakes, etc. have been cleaned with the black mica or Adya Clarity.
Sierra
5th October 2011, 00:20
I've been using Adya Clarity for over a year. I really can't say what it does or does not "cure," but I do believe that it truly does make the water good to drink -- and mineralizes. Black Mica is said to do the same thing, but they both present so differently I haven't been able to discern the real difference between the two, although I believe they are two forms of the same thing. I don't know if the video above shows it, but I have also seen videos where entire lakes, etc. have been cleaned with the black mica or Adya Clarity.
I'm hoping, if I were to ask, that you are in magnificent health, no pain, and that is why you can't really tell whether the Adya Clarity is working, and therefore it *is* working?
I'm going to try it for arthritis. I'll let y'all know if it makes a difference!
NancyV
5th October 2011, 05:34
I've been using Adya Clarity for over a year. I really can't say what it does or does not "cure," but I do believe that it truly does make the water good to drink -- and mineralizes. Black Mica is said to do the same thing, but they both present so differently I haven't been able to discern the real difference between the two, although I believe they are two forms of the same thing. I don't know if the video above shows it, but I have also seen videos where entire lakes, etc. have been cleaned with the black mica or Adya Clarity.
It MUST be working cause you look pretty darn GOOD and you're really GLOWING!!
Nancy :)
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5th October 2011, 08:48
I've been using Adya Clarity for over a year. I really can't say what it does or does not "cure," but I do believe that it truly does make the water good to drink -- and mineralizes. Black Mica is said to do the same thing, but they both present so differently I haven't been able to discern the real difference between the two, although I believe they are two forms of the same thing. I don't know if the video above shows it, but I have also seen videos where entire lakes, etc. have been cleaned with the black mica or Adya Clarity.
It MUST be working cause you look pretty darn GOOD and you're really GLOWING!!
Nancy :)
Hello Avocadess:thumb:
I've got an advanced Japanese waterionizer device from Enagic but wouldn't mind adding this to my water! Where can i order it???
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NancyV
6th October 2011, 18:41
Here is a video testimonial from a 65 year old man who had great results with Adya Clarity. He also talks about results from a few friends he gave it to:
My order was shipped today so I'm looking forward to trying it out as soon as it arrives.
I ordered from: http://www.therawfoodworld.com/
This site also carries it: http://www.rawlife.com/store/home.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_TvDCdSWwqw#!
onawah
28th October 2011, 18:56
NaturalNews issues consumer alert about Adya Clarity, imported as battery acid and sold for internal consumption
by Mike Adams, Oct 28, 2011
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034005_Adya_Clarity_consumer_alert.html#ixzz1c6VptLDA
(NaturalNews) A product called Adya Clarity has been sweeping across the natural health community in the last year or so. It has been sold with recommendations for internal use -- taking "super shots" -- and often accompanied by wide-ranging claims that it treats cancer, kidney stones, hormone regulation, arthritis, and that it removes radiation and heavy metals.
Because so many readers have been asking me about Adya Clarity, I decided to look further into the issue. I was aided by some timely tips that came my way which I began to check out as an investigative journalist. What I found -- much of which is detailed in this report -- absolutely shocked me. But what do YOU think? Read my report and decide for yourself.
Unsubstantiated health claims
The claims that Adya Clarity is good for treating kidney stones, hair loss, arthritis and even cancer are, I discovered, entirely unsubstantiated for this product. There is simply no reliable clinical evidence supporting Adya Clarity to be safe or effective for any health condition whatsoever. Furthermore, there are many facets of this story that have raised red flags in my mind as the editor of NaturalNews.
For starters, Adya Clarity is primarily composed of sulfuric acid, iron sulfate and aluminum sulfate. Before being diluted and bottled, Adya Clarity starts out as Themarox, a mineral deposit mined in Japan just a few dozen miles away from Fukushima. This Themarox has a very acid pH value, near 0.5. In this state, aluminum sulfate is present in a concentration of 10.9 grams per liter, according to our research.
To make Adya Clarity, Themarox is diluted at roughly 10:1, raising the pH and diluting the sulfuric acid. Once bottled, Adya Clarity contains the following concentrations of metals and minerals, according to its label:
Iron: 2,000 PPM
Magnesium: 400 PPM
Calcium: 250 PPM
Potassium: 200 PPM
Manganese: 20 PPM
... and so on.
Do you see what's missing from this list? The aluminum sulfate. By my calculations, given that the aluminum sulfate starts out at 10.9 grams per liter, the diluted form of Themarox -- Adya Clarity -- contains roughly 1.2 grams per liter of aluminum sulfate. This is 1200 mg per liter, which is almost exactly 1200 PPM (parts per million). (Source: The MSDS provided to me by Adya, Inc. as a Word document, see below. This also corresponds to the PPM of aluminum claimed by the manufacturer, Shimanishi Kaken Co.,Ltd.)
Curious as to why aluminum sulfate was not listed on the label in the appropriate order of concentrate (under Iron and above Magnesium), I contacted Matt Bakos, the owner and importer of Adya Clarity and asked him this question. The reason he didn't list aluminum concentration on the label underneath iron, he told me, was because "I don't want to." He said it was listed as a "trace mineral" and that was sufficient. There was no need to list the 1200 PPM of aluminum in Adya because it "is not required," he told me.
I bet many of the people who paid $100+ per bottle for Adya Clarity would also be interested to learn there's quite a significant concentration of aluminum in the product they may have already begun ingesting.
So I pressed further. When challenged on this a second time, Bakos became angry and rather belligerent with me on the phone, and what began as a conversation quickly devolved into something of a screaming competition between he and I. When I suggested that the product name "Adya CLARITY" should achieve "clarity" on the label by offering full disclosure of its mineral and metal content, he became further outraged and ultimately accused me of not knowing what I was talking about and then threatened to involve his lawyers.
To me, these are classic red flags of people about which I have serious reservations. When I ask honest questions and instead of getting answers I get angrily attacked, I know something's up. This is doubly true given that I am well known as a friend of the nutritional products industry -- someone who consistently shares good news about products that offer substantial benefits and safety to informed consumers. (I've been doing this for eight years. This isn't new territory for me.)
By the end of this conversation, it was clear to me that I was not dealing with a person who was willing to provide reasonable answers to legitimate safety questions. I have this entire conversation recorded and on the record, with Bakos' permission no less, and I reserve the right to publicly release this recording if I think it serves the public interest. (I am not ashamed of my use of profanity in this context, which will become crystal clear to you if you hear this recording. It got quite heated.)
Imported as "battery acid"
One of the tips NaturalNews received on this story claims that Adya, Inc. was importing Adya Clarity under the description of "battery acid." I could hardly believe this was true, so I checked it out myself.
What I found was surprising but true: On the ImportGenius.com website, a query of "Adya Inc" from Coldwater, Michigan turns up numerous entries of imported materials from the SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. in Japan to ADYA INC in Coldwater Michigan.
The contents of these shipments?
INORGANIC CHEMICALSHS CODE 3824 BATTERY FLUID ACID
You can see this yourself at:
http://www.importgenius.com/importe...
If you join this website to view more records, you will find other importation records with these descriptions and dates:
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 9/21/2011 3,060 Tokyo Los Angeles California MOL LOIRE INORGANIC CHEMICALS BATTERY FLUID ACID HS CODE 3824.90
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 8/23/2011 1,920 Tokyo Los Angeles California VIRGINIA BRIDGE INORGANIC CHEMICALSHS CODE. 382490
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 5/31/2011 1,180 Tokyo Los Angeles California VICTORIA BRIDGE INORGANIC CHEMICALS THEMAROX HS CODE 3824.90
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 2/23/2011 1,420 Tokyo Long Beach California MOL LOIRE SULPHURIC ACID THEMAROX HS CODE 3824.90
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 12/22/2010 905 Tokyo Long Beach California VIRGINIA BRIDGE INORGANIC CHEMICALSHS CODE 3824.90 BATTERY FLUID ACID
What these import records appear to indicate is that Adya, Inc. is importing materials which are described as battery acid. What's wrong with that? Well, Adya Inc. is not in the battery business. They are in the business of selling an acidic liquid as a water additive labeled for human consumption. It is rather evident that the "battery acid" liquid claimed on the shipping manifests is, in fact, the raw material ingredient for Adya Clarity.
"Super shots" for internal use
The Adya Clarity product has also been widely promoted by Adya Inc distributors as something for internal use, via the taking of "super shots."
The Adya Clarity bottle label even directs customers to consume the product:
"Add 1 teaspoon per 1 gallon of water, stir and enjoy the crisp, clean taste of Adya Clarity water," it says. This clearly implies drinking the water containing the Adya Clarity (how else would you "taste" and "enjoy" it?) Thus, the product label itself is promoting the product for internal use.
Much of the promotional material also recommends Adya Clarity for internal use. This is an oft-repeated message in the videos and webinars used to promote the product.
Click this Bing search for more examples of Adya Clarity being promoted for internal use:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=adya+c...
Adya Clarity is a food?
During my recorded conversation with Matt Bakos, he insisted that Adya Clarity was a "food" and compared it to eating bananas and other fruits. This, on its face, is absurd.
Not by any stretch of reason is Adya Clarity a "food" anymore than, say, uranium is a food because it is also mined out of the ground. Adya Clarity is derived from a mineral deposit to which sulfuric acid is added. Adya Clarity does not grow on trees or bushes. In fact, it is derived from rocks mined near Fukushima and pulled right out of the ground, then combined with sulfuric acid as part of its manufacturing process.
Adya Clarity might be described as a collection of industrial chemicals used for water purification, which is of course almost exactly what was described on the shipping documents with the phrase, "INORGANIC CHEMICALS."
Adya Clarity has been widely mislabeled
In my interview with Bakos, he claimed that the current labeling of Adya Clarity is incorrect because "someone hacked into their computers" causing all their labels to carry incorrect information. (Really? Don't you check your labels before printing them? Or before labeling the products? Or before shipping out the products? Is there really this much lack of quality control at Adya Inc? This is truly concerning...)
I asked Bakos if he had issued a product recall as a result of the mislabeling. He explained no, there was no need because the product was not "contaminated" with anything.
So I asked if there was an effort under way to email all the customers and inform them of the mislabeling. Again, he said no, giving an unsatisfactory explanation of why this was not necessary.
So I asked if his new labels appropriately listed the amount of aluminum contained in Adya, in the appropriate order of concentration, underneath Iron and above Magnesium. He replied that no, aluminum was not listed there because he "didn't want to" list it there. Instead, it was listed under "trace minerals" along with other trace minerals and elements.
Now, to be fair, there is a trace amount of aluminum in lots of things, including Himalayan salt, bananas, and even some brands of baking powder (among other foods). A trace level of aluminum is not typically a concern, although cumulative levels of aluminum do begin to become a concern if consumed regularly. On that note, 1,200 PPM of aluminum sulfate -- when people are drinking "super shots" of this liquid -- is very concerning to me, just out of a sense of caution and basic knowledge of biochemistry.
That Bakos admittedly made a conscious decision to avoid listing aluminum sulfate in its 1200 PPM concentration on the label, and instead put aluminum in the "trace minerals" section of his product's label, smacks of deliberate deception. Why would Adya go out of its way to hide the aluminum concentration in Adya Clarity even though the other macro minerals and metals are clearly listed with their accompanying concentrations?
It appears that there's not as much "clarity" with Adya Clarity as we might have hoped.
Where is the official MSDS?
Everywhere I turned to ask more questions about Adya Clarity, I found unsatisfactory answers. When I inquired about the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS), which is required for all hazardous materials being transported in large quantities, I was given a Word document which looks like somebody just typed it up on their own. That's very different from an official MSDS, which should look more like this (from an unrelated website):
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?...
The MSDS I was given could have been easily modified in a text editor. Even then, it contains the following warnings:
Handling and storage; Handle with acid-proof tools made of plastic or stainless steel. The workers should wear acid-proof clothes and gloves. The products should be stored in acid-proof containers such as plastics. These containers should
be stored indoor location.
Iron overload?
Adya Clarity contains 2,000 PPM of iron, according to the label. Consuming it in "super shots" in the way Adya has been marketing could mean introducing high levels of iron into your diet, and many Americans are already in a state of toxic iron overload, says Dr. Richard Kunin, a highly celebrated biochemist and expert researcher who spoke with NaturalNews after reviewing the Adya Clarity label.
"I'm concerned about the iron content. A lot of people are sensitive to an overdose of iron, and if they're eating oatmeal in the morning, they're getting 10mg of iron right there. It all adds up. I'm seeing people who have too much iron, This is a very big problem," Kunin told NaturalNews.
Even worse, there is a genetic iron overload condition called hereditary hemochromatosis which causes some people to experience acute iron toxicity even from relatively mundane levels of iron intake. Dr. Richard Kunin told NaturalNews that 18mg of iron intake each day is the upper safety limit on a day-to-day basis, but Adya Clarity "super shots" can add 10mg per day (depending on the size of the shots, of course) to the iron intake of a typical consumer who may have already consumed their iron limit for that day.
This is especially prevalent among the vegetarians and vegans to which Adya Clarity has been widely marketed. According to the NIH, for example, just 3/4ths cup of oatmeal contains 18mg of iron all by itself! (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/iron) If you start your morning with 3/4ths cup of oatmeal, then you add a "super shot" of Adya Clarity to your morning coffee, you could be consuming 23 mg of iron even before you finish breakfast. By the end of the day, you could easily exceed 40mg or 50mg of iron in just one day through the consumption of vegetarian foods and a couple of Adya Clarity "super shots."
That's because many foods favored by vegetarians are also high in iron, including:
Soybeans - 8.8mg of iron in one cup
Lentils - 6.6mg of iron in one cup
Kidney beans - 5.2mg of iron in one cup
If you look at the typical diet of a vegetarian or vegan, it's not difficult to imagine that many people could be consuming 30 - 40mg of iron in a day. If you add another 10mg of iron on top of that through Adya Clarity "super shots," you could very easily put yourself in a state of acute iron toxicity, from which the best known remedy is blood letting to eliminate excess iron.
"[Excess] iron is what kills babies," Dr. Kunin told me. "They eat iron pills and die. Adults overload and end up with un-diagnosable illnesses. I'm seeing iron overload in twenty percent of my patients. We're talking about a big problem here."
What really happens when you take too much iron? "In the body, the iron starts oxidizing everything; it will oxidize vitamin C, it will go to the liver where iron will be accumulated and over time make people more susceptible to hepatitis, either viral or chemical," says Kunin.
"The iron will then act as an amplifier, promoting an inflammatory response in the liver, and likewise in the kidneys," Dr. Kunin continued. "If it accumulates in the brain, it makes any other chemical insult to that part of the brain even worse. It's linked to arthritis, and in men it can go right to the gonad and cause you to lose your potency."
For the record, Dr. Kunin has not yet had time to study Adya Clarity's effects in the human body (Adya is still a relatively new product). He is merely expressing his well-informed views about biochemistry and the impact of dietary iron on human health. Given that Adya Clarity contains a relatively high level of iron (it's the most concentrated mineral in the product, with aluminum the second), it only makes sense to consider the health effects of increased dietary intake of iron, especially if consuming liquids with iron concentrations of 2,000 PPM.
Is it detox? Or is it something else entirely?
I was given a link to a testimonial about Adya Clarity that raises more questions about iron toxicity. One person on the Listen2YourGut.com website writes (http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/...):
"So just watched [the] webinar as well and was interested in the supposed benefits. And before I decided to buy (and while the webinar was playing) I was doing research on the internet. Has anyone experienced any of the side effects detoxification mentioned in the videos? Such as the blackened finger tips and lead taste in the mouth or the kidney stones?"
This raises red flags for me, as "blackened finger tips and lead taste in the mouth" are potential signs that could very well indicate metal toxicity. I find it further concerning that positive effects of Adya Clarity are often described as evidence that the product works, while negative effects that people experience are often explained away as "detoxification experiences."
Not everything is a detox, folks. Sometimes there is a far more worrisome explanation for such experiences.
Adya marketed with recommendations for internal use
Adya Clarity has been marketed with direct recommendations for consuming it every 12 hours, using text like this:
"As far as super shots are concerned; taking a super shot is an off label use. Mix 1 teaspoon of ADYA in 1 oz. of water. If this is too strong to the taste, you can use more than 1 oz of water. Drink one Supershot immediately upon waking in the morning. Repeat every 12 hours."
See more examples of Adya Clarity promoted with "super shots" through this Bing search:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=adya+c...
To their credit, the marketers of Adya Clarity did at least recommend that customers "consult with a doctor or medical professional before someone decides to use super shots."
Also, for the record, I do not believe that the marketers of Adya Clarity would knowingly sell a product they thought was harmful. Much of the information in this article is likely to be a surprise to those who have been marketing Adya Clarity.
More information will no doubt come to light after the publication of this article, and NaturalNews plans to continue to cover this story.
Action items: What should you do if you bought Adya Clarity?
If you purchased Adya Clarity, what should you do with this information now?
First, I suggest you think twice before ingesting any inorganic material. Ask the commonsense questions you should ask about any non-food product that is being aggressively promoted: What's in this? Is it safe to consume? How does anybody know it's safe? Is there a track record of safe use? Is there an independent source that can corroborate the product's safety without being financially involved in the product?
If you can't get green light answers on these questions, I would recommend avoiding consuming that product.
Second, listen to your intuition: Is the marketing too good to be true? Is it being heralded as a "miracle" cure for whatever ails you? Certainly, there are supplements that are almost miraculous in nature, such as vitamin D, or astaxanthin, or even phytonutrients like resveratrol. But "miracle" nutrients are rare, and theyfrom rocks. While both trace minerals and macro minerals have a crucial role to play in human health -- I've promoted many trace minerals myself -- when they are mixed with relatively high concentrations of aluminum and iron, any biochemist or nutritionist would naturally begin to ask some commonsense questions about ingesting that product on a regular basis.
Third, if you bought Adya Clarity merely to cleanse water due to its coagulation action, then it will obviously still function in that way, and there's no need to return it or ask for a refund. It can conceivably function as an emergency water filtration technology.
But as a side note, you can purchase aluminum sulfate from Amazon.com for just a few dollars a pound. Iron sulfate and magnesium sulfate are similarly inexpensive. If you're only looking to treat dirty water with coagulation minerals, you can do it for a whole lot less money by simply purchasing bulk minerals on the internet. For example, here's 4 pounds of aluminum sulfate for less than ten bucks: http://www.amazon.com/Bonide-Alumin...
I wouldn't personally use this Bonide Aluminum Sulfate to filter water, however. It's made as a plant fertilizer. I would prefer to use a ceramic water filter or a Big Berkey filter, or something with a carbon block in it, perhaps. There are lots of good water filters on the market today, and many of them produce clear, drinkable water at just a few cents per gallon.
Aluminum sulfate's use as a chemical flocculant
Aluminum sulfate, of course, has long been used in municipal water treatment facilities as a "chemical flocculant" or "coagulant." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alumin...)
This is one of the observed properties of Adya Clarity -- when you pour it into a glass of dirty water, many of the impurities in the water coagulate and then, over 24 hours or so, they settle to the bottom of the container, leaving the water above these coagulants less polluted.
In municipal water treatment facilities, aluminum sulfate is often used for the same purpose in one stage of the water filtration process. But importantly, there is another stage after that which REMOVES the coagulated metals and minerals so that they don't enter the water supply. No one in a water treatment facility would recommend you actually drink the coagulant!
Yet Adya Clarity implies this behavior on its label, where it says you add Adya Clarity to water and then "enjoy the crisp, clean taste of Adya Clarity water," without mentioning that you should never drink the coagulated gunk in the bottom of the glass.
Deadly aluminum sulfate poisoning in the UK
In 1988, a 20-ton load of aluminum sulfate was accidentally dumped into the municipal water supply in a town in the UK. What followed was a mass poisoning of the citizens in a 140-square-mile area. As reported in the Dailymail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...) :
"As she starts to walk, it is with a heavy limp and within 50 yards she is so exhausted that her entire body shakes uncontrollably. After Angela finally reaches the local coffee shop, the trembling of her swollen legs is so bad that the table rocks haphazardly, threatening to spill her mug and croissant onto the floor.
No wonder, near to tears, she declares bravely: "When I am dead, I want an autopsy done on my body. It might help all the people who, like me and my two children, drank the water in Camelford all those years ago."
For she and her family were victims of one of Britain's most high-profile public health scandals in which victims complained of brain damage, memory loss and joint problems."
Also from the story:
...dead women had "high levels" of aluminium in their brains...
...Hundreds began to suffer effects after drinking or bathing - including skin peeling, hands and lips sticking together, hair turning green and fingernails blue.
...By nightfall that day, people were vomiting and had diarrhoea. Next morning, many had skin burns, aching joints and mouth ulcers that took weeks to heal.
...A few months later Angela became ill.
...She was diagnosed with cancer of the lymph glands of the leg. She had an operation to remove the resulting malignant growth on her left thigh. She has since undergone another operation to remove a new growth on the same leg."
Notably, the fingernails turning blue being reported in this story as a result of aluminum sulfate poisoning is strikingly similar to the "blackened finger tips" eluded to earlier in this story, which has been described as a "detoxification" effect. (http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/...)
Of course, the level of toxic exposure to aluminum sulfate that occurred in the UK was at extremely high levels -- far higher than what a person would likely experience from consuming "super shots" of Adya Clarity. Yet this historical event demonstrates what can happen when aluminum sulfate is consumed in toxic quantities. It's not a pretty picture.
Read that full story, if you wish, at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...
My 15 concerns about Adya Clarity
In all, this investigation into Adya Clarity (also called "black mica extract" or Themarox) has left me with numerous concerns that I consider to be quite serious. Here are my top 15 concerns:
#1) I am concerned that Adya Clarity is mined just a few dozen miles from the Fukushima nuclear power complex that recently suffered a meltdown and spewed radiation into the atmosphere. I would hope that the supplier of Adya would publicly post a verifiable radiation test report to dismiss any such concerns about possible radiation contamination.
#2) I am concerned that the founder of Adya, Inc. describes Adya Clarity as a "food" when it is clearly not a food but rather derived from a collection of mined minerals combined with sulfuric acid.
#3) I am concerned that the concentration of aluminum in Adya Clarity appears to have been hidden from customers on the label by listing it in "trace minerals" when in fact it is the second most common element in the product, just after iron.
#4) I am concerned that the Adya Clarity manufacturer has such poor quality control measures in place that they admittedly shipped out a very large number of mislabeled Adya Clarity products -- and then did not feel any obligation to alert customers to this mislabeling.
#5) I am concerned that Adya Clarity is being marketed for internal consumption when there is no clinical evidence or even published scientific papers that have been made available to NaturalNews which supports the safety of the Adya Clarity product for internal consumption.
#6) I am concerned that the high level of iron in Adya Clarity may result in acute iron toxicity in some individuals who take "super shots" of Adya, especially if they are genetically predisposed to iron toxicity.
#7) I am concerned that Adya Clarity is imported as "battery acid" but sold as a health supplement for internal use.
#8) I am concerned that the level of aluminum in Adya Clarity may present a health hazard when consumed on a regular basis, as aluminum is well known to potentially accumulate in the human body and contribute to a variety of neurological disorders. We do not yet conclusively know this to be a fact, but neither do we know it to be safe, and that's the point. We should follow the "precautionary principle" when considering the internal consumption of non-food items containing concentrations of aluminum or other metals known to exhibit potentially harmful effects.
#9) I am concerned that when asked why he did not list the concentration of aluminum on the Adya Clarity label, the founder of the company told me, essentially, "Because I didn't want to." To me, this indicates a callous disregard for full disclosure to customers and a reckless abandonment of fundamental ethical principles that should always be present when marketing nutritional supplements labeled for internal use.
#10) I am concerned that the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) I received from Adya Clarity appears to be nothing more than a non-official Word document and does not resemble the traditional MSDS documents typically accompanying hazardous substances. as a Word document, it could have easily been modified or edited to eliminate information that the importer did not want other people to see, in much the same way that the label was designed to avoid listing the concentration of aluminum.
#11) I am concerned that both children and expectant mothers may be especially at risk due to high consumption of both iron and aluminum, and yet there are no warnings or cautions that accompany the Adya Clarity product which would reasonably inform a pregnant women (or a mother of a child) to exercise caution in the use of this product.
#12) I am concerned that the unsubstantiated health claims being used to market Adya Clarity cast a shadow of doubt over the entire natural products industry which, in most cases, sells very safe, effective and well-documented products for consumption.
#13) I am concerned that in a time when most of us are trying to remove heavy metals, aluminum and other contaminants from our water (fluoride, BPA, etc.), Adya Clarity is being sold with the message that we need to add something to our water -- something that contains aluminum. This is especially concerning given that aluminum is one of the adjuvants used in vaccines, which is one of the reasons informed consumers seek to avoid vaccine injections.
#14) I am concerned that those who are marketing Adya Clarity did not exercise fundamental due diligence in determining the evidence-based safety of this product before marketing it for internal use.
#15) I am concerned that the Adya Clarity label contains no warnings about iron consumption and no warnings for cumulative aluminum consumption.
My principles and ethics
As the editor of NaturalNews, I have an obligation to keep my ear to the ground and pay attention to what's going on in the natural health industry. In the past, I have exposed the deceptive marketing practices of companies like General Mills, which sells "blueberry - pomegranate" cereal that contains no blueberries or pomegranates! (http://www.naturalnews.com/031053_G...)
I have helped expose dangers of vaccines and the aluminum contaminants in those vaccines, which many people believe help explain why vaccines may cause autism and other neurological disorders. Day after day, we here at NaturalNews seek to share information about health-enhancing products that are safe and effective while exposing dangerous chemicals in foods, cosmetics, medicines and environmental products that threaten human health.
In my years as NaturalNews editor, I have seen it all: The good guys who really offer remarkable health solutions, and the con artists who are selling quack products just to make a quick buck. I've seen products hyped way beyond their true merit and sold with outrageous claims that simply have no basis in fact, and at the same time I've seen humble nutrients like vitamin D -- which are truly miraculous -- never get the real publicity they deserve as truly amazing cures.
When I talk to people and start getting evasive answers about their products, red flags start to pop up in my head. An honest company selling a mineral complex like Adya, I believe, would have been happy to provide me with an official MSDS and some documentation supporting the safety of their product when ingested. An honest company would have honestly labeled their product to achieve full disclosure and not resorted to hiding one element by burying it in the "trace minerals" section of their label.
I personally did not find Adya, Inc. to be forthright in providing answers to my reasonable questions, nor in providing any reliable evidence whatsoever to support the idea that their product may be safely ingested on a regular basis.
My conclusions
Based on my research and considerable history in the natural products industry, it is my belief that the Adya Clarity product is mislabeled, and I have a question of whether Adya Clarity as it is sold today may stand in violation of California Proposition 65 due to its aluminum content.
Based on the evidence I have gathered, I believe the product presents a potential risk of harm to some individuals if consumed in accordance with the way in which it has been labeled and marketed.
Everything I have stated in this article is believed to be accurate and true. If any factual mistakes are brought to my attention, I will correct them in a timely manner and issue all appropriate corrections.
For the record, I have no financial stake in Adya Clarity, neither its success nor failure. I do not sell or promote any competing product. I am willing to testify under oath in a court of law to the statements and findings I have made herein. I write this out of concern for the safety of NaturalNews readers who deserve to hear the full story on this increasingly popular dietary product.
I am committed to taking whatever action is necessary to further investigate this story and help contribute to the safety of consumers who have put their trust in the natural products industry.
Watch NaturalNews for more updates on this topic, and thank you for your interest in this subject.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034005_Adya_Clarity_consumer_alert.html#ixzz1c6WXt731
NancyV
28th October 2011, 21:02
I was just about to post the story from Natural News, Onawah! Glad you posted it. My husband and I have been taking Adya Clarity for 18 days now. I can't say we have had any spectacular results so far although my joints generally hurt less, but that could always be a placebo effect. I was very impressed with what I read about Adya Clarity and the results people say they have had.
After reading the Natural News article just now... we'll stop using it. I will be interested to hear the response from those who are selling it as I haven't got a clue who is right and who is less right but Mike Adams from Natural News is usually right on about things he posts so I have an inclination to believe him.
The WORST thing is that my husband will now accuse me of trying to poison him again!! LOL
Nancy :)
Sidney
28th October 2011, 21:24
Liquid Zeolite makes similar claims.
onawah
28th October 2011, 21:31
I don't know about any particular brand name, but zeolite has been proven to be a powerful detoxification agent, and was used widely after Chernobyl, with good effects.
onawah
30th October 2011, 17:34
Adya Clarity - how to intelligently read the label and calculate possible toxic exposures to excess iron and aluminum
http://www.naturalnews.com/034014_Adya_Clarity_aluminum_exposure.html
Dear NaturalNews readers,
There is much more coming out now about Adya Clarity. This is a substance that was marketed as a miracle cure of sorts, with popular online webinars and email campaigns that pushed it as being "more valuable than gold" and making wild, unsubstantiated claims about its health properties.
What is Adya Clarity? It's essentially a bunch of rocks mined out of the ground near Fukushima, Japan, then diluted into sulfuric acid and water. It contains relatively high concentrations of both iron and aluminum. It was widely marketed through videos and webinars for internal use that recommended people swallow "super shots" on a regular basis in order to treat their health conditions.
We sounded the alarm on this with a hard-hitting article posted early Friday. Since then, I have been called by doctors, naturopaths and biochemists who are absolutely beside themselves that anyone would market such a product for internal use. They are extremely concerned about iron and aluminum toxicity in those who have been instructed to ingest this substance.
I was viciously attacked, of course, by some of the very people who were making money hand-over-fist in selling this product. A typical bottle that retailed for $149 on the internet has a hard cost of about five bucks, I have been told. Obviously, there's a whole lotta profit to defend on this product.
The trolls who attacked me on Facebook told me I should "get educated" about these metals, and they proclaimed that their aluminum "mined from Mother Earth" is completely safe because it's "natural!" Oh wow. Are these people really that ignorant? Really? Would they also eat mercury and cadmium, too?
I politely pointed out that uranium is also mined from the Earth, and I wouldn't want to swallow that anytime soon, although I'm pretty sure some of the more extreme Adya users out there would eat almost anything if they were told it was magical and "magnetic." Or "ionic" and "trivalent" and (insert your favorite chemical jargon here to befuddle the masses). It's hexavalent magic, by God! Suck it down!
So I took their advice and I got educated about the metals in Adya Clarity. I compared their concentrations of iron and aluminum to upper safety limits recommended by the EPA for safe drinking water. What I found rather shocked me:
Drinking a "super shot" of Adya Clarity exposes you to 5,450% higher concentrations of aluminum as are allowed in drinking water.
Drinking a "super shot" of Adya Clarity also exposes you to 6,666% higher concentrations of iron as are allowed in drinking water.
I suppose Adya Clarity might actually be a really good way to radically increase your intake of iron and aluminum if you were a metallic being of some sort, like an intelligent robot from an advanced civilization that somehow lacked these common metals. Maybe Transformers could benefit from drinking this, huh? Or Iron Man, if he were really made of iron.
All joking aside, I'm thinking about getting even more educated about all this, actually. It's sort of a hobby now. So I've decided to interview top-notch people with expertise in metals detoxification and biochemistry. Those interviews are coming up soon on NaturalNews, and they will absolutely astound you, as you'll soon see.
I've also been doing my homework on aluminum toxicity and I discovered that aluminum is a potent brain poison (well, actually I already knew that), and that people with impaired kidney function can very easily accumulate toxic loads of aluminum in their bodies. I also confirmed that aluminum toxicity can make you go crazy and erupt into violent emotional fits. (Seriously.) As you talk with people online, you may in fact notice this very behavior among some individuals.
I also discovered that taking four shots of Adya Clarity each day would expose you to a whopping 240+mg of iron sulfate. This is a level of daily iron consumption that is extremely dangerous. No wonder some of the Adya Clarity users out there who are taking daily shots describe their "healing effects" as things like "black stuff" coming out of their ears and their finger tips turning dark colors (I'm not kidding).
People, think before you drink!
Don't swallow some acidic metallic liquid just because some clever marketing webinar told you it was good for you. Read the dang labels. Ask some intelligent questions. Protect your health, folks, because you can be darn sure nobody else is going to protect it for you. Especially not when there's money to be made hawking stuff like vaccines, which also contain aluminum, by the way. That's one of the reasons we think vaccines may be linked to neurological disorders such as Alzheimer's disease and autism.
I find it truly astonishing -- I mean just slap-your-face mind blowing -- that the VERY SAME PEOPLE who insist on avoiding vaccines, avoiding BPA in plastics, and even avoiding aluminum cookware are drinking aluminum sulfate out of shot glasses! It is nothing short of truly bewildering. Can you figure it out?
Want to read more? Here's the rest of this story, including a must-see chart of metals toxicity that will help you determine safe limits for exposure to iron and aluminum:
http://www.naturalnews.com/034014_Adya_Clarity_aluminum_exposure.html
ROMANWKT
30th October 2011, 17:40
done it, got it, use it. and get the 12 litre filtering, it good clean water plus.
regards to all
roman
Arrowwind
1st November 2011, 14:39
http://www.naturalnews.com/034023_Adya_Clarity_Matt_Monarch.html
Well now it seems that the distributor for North America is doing a product recall and is sending his apologies to customers and offering a full refund. His letter is in the above link.
Personally I would not take this product due to aluminum... I do not understand the metabolism of aluminum, do you?
Certainly aluminum in vaccines is a huge issue. Now I do understand that metals in various compounded formulations can have different effects within the body but
does anyone really know the metabolism of aluminum sulfate? I would require that that be proven to me to my satisfaction that it is safe.
There are other sure fire ways to detox the body and clear blood vessels.
conk
1st November 2011, 15:51
I do not believe it is possible to prove the safety of aluminum in the body. Aluminum is linked to so many physical ailments. We don't even use aluminum foil any more! Some describe an aluminum/fluoride complex that is deadly to the thryroid gland. Certainly no one is deficient in aluminum or any of the other hundreds of poisons foisted upon us daily.
onawah
1st November 2011, 16:17
Adya Clarity caught deceiving Health Canada in licensing scam that hid aluminum content
http://www.naturalnews.com/034022_Adya_Clarity_Health_Canada.html
Yet another very damning article by Mike Adams at Natural News.
It's quite long, so I did not copy it here, but I would certainly advise reading it if you are using this product, thinking of using it, or know someone who is.
ROMANWKT
1st November 2011, 22:23
WARNING
Unsubstantiated health claims
The claims that Adya Clarity is good for treating kidney stones, hair loss, arthritis and even cancer are, I discovered, entirely unsubstantiated for this product. There is simply no reliable clinical evidence supporting Adya Clarity to be safe or effective for any health condition whatsoever. Furthermore, there are many facets of this story that have raised red flags in my mind as the editor of NaturalNews.
For starters, Adya Clarity is primarily composed of sulfuric acid, iron sulfate and aluminum sulfate. Before being diluted and bottled, Adya Clarity starts out as Themarox, a mineral deposit mined in Japan just a few dozen miles away from Fukushima. This Themarox has a very acid pH value, near 0.5. In this state, aluminum sulfate is present in a concentration of 10.9 grams per liter, according to our research.
To make Adya Clarity, Themarox is diluted at roughly 10:1, raising the pH and diluting the sulfuric acid. Once bottled, Adya Clarity contains the following concentrations of metals and minerals, according to its label:
Iron: 2,000 PPM
Magnesium: 400 PPM
Calcium: 250 PPM
Potassium: 200 PPM
Manganese: 20 PPM
... and so on.
Do you see what's missing from this list? The aluminum sulfate. By my calculations, given that the aluminum sulfate starts out at 10.9 grams per liter, the diluted form of Themarox -- Adya Clarity -- contains roughly 1.2 grams per liter of aluminum sulfate. This is 1200 mg per liter, which is almost exactly 1200 PPM (parts per million). (Source: The MSDS provided to me by Adya, Inc. as a Word document, see below. This also corresponds to the PPM of aluminum claimed by the manufacturer, Shimanishi Kaken Co.,Ltd.)
Curious as to why aluminum sulfate was not listed on the label in the appropriate order of concentrate (under Iron and above Magnesium), I contacted Matt Bakos, the owner and importer of Adya Clarity and asked him this question. The reason he didn't list aluminum concentration on the label underneath iron, he told me, was because "I don't want to." He said it was listed as a "trace mineral" and that was sufficient. There was no need to list the 1200 PPM of aluminum in Adya because it "is not required," he told me.
I bet many of the people who paid $100+ per bottle for Adya Clarity would also be interested to learn there's quite a significant concentration of aluminum in the product they may have already begun ingesting.
So I pressed further. When challenged on this a second time, Bakos became angry and rather belligerent with me on the phone, and what began as a conversation quickly devolved into something of a screaming competition between he and I. When I suggested that the product name "Adya CLARITY" should achieve "clarity" on the label by offering full disclosure of its mineral and metal content, he became further outraged and ultimately accused me of not knowing what I was talking about and then threatened to involve his lawyers.
To me, these are classic red flags of people about which I have serious reservations. When I ask honest questions and instead of getting answers I get angrily attacked, I know something's up. This is doubly true given that I am well known as a friend of the nutritional products industry -- someone who consistently shares good news about products that offer substantial benefits and safety to informed consumers. (I've been doing this for eight years. This isn't new territory for me.)
By the end of this conversation, it was clear to me that I was not dealing with a person who was willing to provide reasonable answers to legitimate safety questions. I have this entire conversation recorded and on the record, with Bakos' permission no less, and I reserve the right to publicly release this recording if I think it serves the public interest. (I am not ashamed of my use of profanity in this context, which will become crystal clear to you if you hear this recording. It got quite heated.)
Imported as "battery acid"
One of the tips NaturalNews received on this story claims that Adya, Inc. was importing Adya Clarity under the description of "battery acid." I could hardly believe this was true, so I checked it out myself.
What I found was surprising but true: On the ImportGenius.com website, a query of "Adya Inc" from Coldwater, Michigan turns up numerous entries of imported materials from the SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. in Japan to ADYA INC in Coldwater Michigan.
The contents of these shipments?
INORGANIC CHEMICALSHS CODE 3824 BATTERY FLUID ACID
You can see this yourself at:
http://www.importgenius.com/importe...
If you join this website to view more records, you will find other importation records with these descriptions and dates:
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 9/21/2011 3,060 Tokyo Los Angeles California MOL LOIRE INORGANIC CHEMICALS BATTERY FLUID ACID HS CODE 3824.90
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 8/23/2011 1,920 Tokyo Los Angeles California VIRGINIA BRIDGE INORGANIC CHEMICALSHS CODE. 382490
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 5/31/2011 1,180 Tokyo Los Angeles California VICTORIA BRIDGE INORGANIC CHEMICALS THEMAROX HS CODE 3824.90
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 2/23/2011 1,420 Tokyo Long Beach California MOL LOIRE SULPHURIC ACID THEMAROX HS CODE 3824.90
SHIMANISHI KAKEN CO. LTD. ADYA INC. 12/22/2010 905 Tokyo Long Beach California VIRGINIA BRIDGE INORGANIC CHEMICALSHS CODE 3824.90 BATTERY FLUID ACID
What these import records appear to indicate is that Adya, Inc. is importing materials which are described as battery acid. What's wrong with that? Well, Adya Inc. is not in the battery business. They are in the business of selling an acidic liquid as a water additive labeled for human consumption. It is rather evident that the "battery acid" liquid claimed on the shipping manifests is, in fact, the raw material ingredient for Adya Clarity.
"Super shots" for internal use
The Adya Clarity product has also been widely promoted by Adya Inc distributors as something for internal use, via the taking of "super shots."
The Adya Clarity bottle label even directs customers to consume the product:
"Add 1 teaspoon per 1 gallon of water, stir and enjoy the crisp, clean taste of Adya Clarity water," it says. This clearly implies drinking the water containing the Adya Clarity (how else would you "taste" and "enjoy" it?) Thus, the product label itself is promoting the product for internal use.
Much of the promotional material also recommends Adya Clarity for internal use. This is an oft-repeated message in the videos and webinars used to promote the product.
Click this Bing search for more examples of Adya Clarity being promoted for internal use:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=adya+c...
Adya Clarity is a food?
During my recorded conversation with Matt Bakos, he insisted that Adya Clarity was a "food" and compared it to eating bananas and other fruits. This, on its face, is absurd.
Not by any stretch of reason is Adya Clarity a "food" anymore than, say, uranium is a food because it is also mined out of the ground. Adya Clarity is derived from a mineral deposit to which sulfuric acid is added. Adya Clarity does not grow on trees or bushes. In fact, it is derived from rocks mined near Fukushima and pulled right out of the ground, then combined with sulfuric acid as part of its manufacturing process.
Adya Clarity might be described as a collection of industrial chemicals used for water purification, which is of course almost exactly what was described on the shipping documents with the phrase, "INORGANIC CHEMICALS."
Adya Clarity has been widely mislabeled
In my interview with Bakos, he claimed that the current labeling of Adya Clarity is incorrect because "someone hacked into their computers" causing all their labels to carry incorrect information. (Really? Don't you check your labels before printing them? Or before labeling the products? Or before shipping out the products? Is there really this much lack of quality control at Adya Inc? This is truly concerning...)
I asked Bakos if he had issued a product recall as a result of the mislabeling. He explained no, there was no need because the product was not "contaminated" with anything.
So I asked if there was an effort under way to email all the customers and inform them of the mislabeling. Again, he said no, giving an unsatisfactory explanation of why this was not necessary.
So I asked if his new labels appropriately listed the amount of aluminum contained in Adya, in the appropriate order of concentration, underneath Iron and above Magnesium. He replied that no, aluminum was not listed there because he "didn't want to" list it there. Instead, it was listed under "trace minerals" along with other trace minerals and elements.
Now, to be fair, there is a trace amount of aluminum in lots of things, including Himalayan salt, bananas, and even some brands of baking powder (among other foods). A trace level of aluminum is not typically a concern, although cumulative levels of aluminum do begin to become a concern if consumed regularly. On that note, 1,200 PPM of aluminum sulfate -- when people are drinking "super shots" of this liquid -- is very concerning to me, just out of a sense of caution and basic knowledge of biochemistry.
That Bakos admittedly made a conscious decision to avoid listing aluminum sulfate in its 1200 PPM concentration on the label, and instead put aluminum in the "trace minerals" section of his product's label, smacks of deliberate deception. Why would Adya go out of its way to hide the aluminum concentration in Adya Clarity even though the other macro minerals and metals are clearly listed with their accompanying concentrations?
It appears that there's not as much "clarity" with Adya Clarity as we might have hoped.
Where is the official MSDS?
Everywhere I turned to ask more questions about Adya Clarity, I found unsatisfactory answers. When I inquired about the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS), which is required for all hazardous materials being transported in large quantities, I was given a Word document which looks like somebody just typed it up on their own. That's very different from an official MSDS, which should look more like this (from an unrelated website):
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?...
The MSDS I was given could have been easily modified in a text editor. Even then, it contains the following warnings:
Handling and storage; Handle with acid-proof tools made of plastic or stainless steel. The workers should wear acid-proof clothes and gloves. The products should be stored in acid-proof containers such as plastics. These containers should
be stored indoor location.
Iron overload?
Adya Clarity contains 2,000 PPM of iron, according to the label. Consuming it in "super shots" in the way Adya has been marketing could mean introducing high levels of iron into your diet, and many Americans are already in a state of toxic iron overload, says Dr. Richard Kunin, a highly celebrated biochemist and expert researcher who spoke with NaturalNews after reviewing the Adya Clarity label.
"I'm concerned about the iron content. A lot of people are sensitive to an overdose of iron, and if they're eating oatmeal in the morning, they're getting 10mg of iron right there. It all adds up. I'm seeing people who have too much iron, This is a very big problem," Kunin told NaturalNews.
Even worse, there is a genetic iron overload condition called hereditary hemochromatosis which causes some people to experience acute iron toxicity even from relatively mundane levels of iron intake. Dr. Richard Kunin told NaturalNews that 18mg of iron intake each day is the upper safety limit on a day-to-day basis, but Adya Clarity "super shots" can add 10mg per day (depending on the size of the shots, of course) to the iron intake of a typical consumer who may have already consumed their iron limit for that day.
This is especially prevalent among the vegetarians and vegans to which Adya Clarity has been widely marketed. According to the NIH, for example, just 3/4ths cup of oatmeal contains 18mg of iron all by itself! (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/iron) If you start your morning with 3/4ths cup of oatmeal, then you add a "super shot" of Adya Clarity to your morning coffee, you could be consuming 23 mg of iron even before you finish breakfast. By the end of the day, you could easily exceed 40mg or 50mg of iron in just one day through the consumption of vegetarian foods and a couple of Adya Clarity "super shots."
That's because many foods favored by vegetarians are also high in iron, including:
Soybeans - 8.8mg of iron in one cup
Lentils - 6.6mg of iron in one cup
Kidney beans - 5.2mg of iron in one cup
If you look at the typical diet of a vegetarian or vegan, it's not difficult to imagine that many people could be consuming 30 - 40mg of iron in a day. If you add another 10mg of iron on top of that through Adya Clarity "super shots," you could very easily put yourself in a state of acute iron toxicity, from which the best known remedy is blood letting to eliminate excess iron.
"[Excess] iron is what kills babies," Dr. Kunin told me. "They eat iron pills and die. Adults overload and end up with un-diagnosable illnesses. I'm seeing iron overload in twenty percent of my patients. We're talking about a big problem here."
What really happens when you take too much iron? "In the body, the iron starts oxidizing everything; it will oxidize vitamin C, it will go to the liver where iron will be accumulated and over time make people more susceptible to hepatitis, either viral or chemical," says Kunin.
"The iron will then act as an amplifier, promoting an inflammatory response in the liver, and likewise in the kidneys," Dr. Kunin continued. "If it accumulates in the brain, it makes any other chemical insult to that part of the brain even worse. It's linked to arthritis, and in men it can go right to the gonad and cause you to lose your potency."
For the record, Dr. Kunin has not yet had time to study Adya Clarity's effects in the human body (Adya is still a relatively new product). He is merely expressing his well-informed views about biochemistry and the impact of dietary iron on human health. Given that Adya Clarity contains a relatively high level of iron (it's the most concentrated mineral in the product, with aluminum the second), it only makes sense to consider the health effects of increased dietary intake of iron, especially if consuming liquids with iron concentrations of 2,000 PPM.
Is it detox? Or is it something else entirely?
I was given a link to a testimonial about Adya Clarity that raises more questions about iron toxicity. One person on the Listen2YourGut.com website writes (http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/...):
"So just watched [the] webinar as well and was interested in the supposed benefits. And before I decided to buy (and while the webinar was playing) I was doing research on the internet. Has anyone experienced any of the side effects detoxification mentioned in the videos? Such as the blackened finger tips and lead taste in the mouth or the kidney stones?"
This raises red flags for me, as "blackened finger tips and lead taste in the mouth" are potential signs that could very well indicate metal toxicity. I find it further concerning that positive effects of Adya Clarity are often described as evidence that the product works, while negative effects that people experience are often explained away as "detoxification experiences."
Not everything is a detox, folks. Sometimes there is a far more worrisome explanation for such experiences.
Adya marketed with recommendations for internal use
Adya Clarity has been marketed with direct recommendations for consuming it every 12 hours, using text like this:
"As far as super shots are concerned; taking a super shot is an off label use. Mix 1 teaspoon of ADYA in 1 oz. of water. If this is too strong to the taste, you can use more than 1 oz of water. Drink one Supershot immediately upon waking in the morning. Repeat every 12 hours."
See more examples of Adya Clarity promoted with "super shots" through this Bing search:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=adya+c...
To their credit, the marketers of Adya Clarity did at least recommend that customers "consult with a doctor or medical professional before someone decides to use super shots."
Also, for the record, I do not believe that the marketers of Adya Clarity would knowingly sell a product they thought was harmful. Much of the information in this article is likely to be a surprise to those who have been marketing Adya Clarity.
More information will no doubt come to light after the publication of this article, and NaturalNews plans to continue to cover this story.
Action items: What should you do if you bought Adya Clarity?
If you purchased Adya Clarity, what should you do with this information now?
First, I suggest you think twice before ingesting any inorganic material. Ask the commonsense questions you should ask about any non-food product that is being aggressively promoted: What's in this? Is it safe to consume? How does anybody know it's safe? Is there a track record of safe use? Is there an independent source that can corroborate the product's safety without being financially involved in the product?
If you can't get green light answers on these questions, I would recommend avoiding consuming that product.
Second, listen to your intuition: Is the marketing too good to be true? Is it being heralded as a "miracle" cure for whatever ails you? Certainly, there are supplements that are almost miraculous in nature, such as vitamin D, or astaxanthin, or even phytonutrients like resveratrol. But "miracle" nutrients are rare, and they usually come from living systems (plants, for the most part), not from rocks. While both trace minerals and macro minerals have a crucial role to play in human health -- I've promoted many trace minerals myself -- when they are mixed with relatively high concentrations of aluminum and iron, any biochemist or nutritionist would naturally begin to ask some commonsense questions about ingesting that product on a regular basis.
Third, if you bought Adya Clarity merely to cleanse water due to its coagulation action, then it will obviously still function in that way, and there's no need to return it or ask for a refund. It can conceivably function as an emergency water filtration technology.
But as a side note, you can purchase aluminum sulfate from Amazon.com for just a few dollars a pound. Iron sulfate and magnesium sulfate are similarly inexpensive. If you're only looking to treat dirty water with coagulation minerals, you can do it for a whole lot less money by simply purchasing bulk minerals on the internet. For example, here's 4 pounds of aluminum sulfate for less than ten bucks: http://www.amazon.com/Bonide-Alumin...
I wouldn't personally use this Bonide Aluminum Sulfate to filter water, however. It's made as a plant fertilizer. I would prefer to use a ceramic water filter or a Big Berkey filter, or something with a carbon block in it, perhaps. There are lots of good water filters on the market today, and many of them produce clear, drinkable water at just a few cents per gallon.
Aluminum sulfate's use as a chemical flocculant
Aluminum sulfate, of course, has long been used in municipal water treatment facilities as a "chemical flocculant" or "coagulant." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alumin...)
This is one of the observed properties of Adya Clarity -- when you pour it into a glass of dirty water, many of the impurities in the water coagulate and then, over 24 hours or so, they settle to the bottom of the container, leaving the water above these coagulants less polluted.
In municipal water treatment facilities, aluminum sulfate is often used for the same purpose in one stage of the water filtration process. But importantly, there is another stage after that which REMOVES the coagulated metals and minerals so that they don't enter the water supply. No one in a water treatment facility would recommend you actually drink the coagulant!
Yet Adya Clarity implies this behavior on its label, where it says you add Adya Clarity to water and then "enjoy the crisp, clean taste of Adya Clarity water," without mentioning that you should never drink the coagulated gunk in the bottom of the glass.
Deadly aluminum sulfate poisoning in the UK
In 1988, a 20-ton load of aluminum sulfate was accidentally dumped into the municipal water supply in a town in the UK. What followed was a mass poisoning of the citizens in a 140-square-mile area. As reported in the Dailymail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...) :
"As she starts to walk, it is with a heavy limp and within 50 yards she is so exhausted that her entire body shakes uncontrollably. After Angela finally reaches the local coffee shop, the trembling of her swollen legs is so bad that the table rocks haphazardly, threatening to spill her mug and croissant onto the floor.
No wonder, near to tears, she declares bravely: "When I am dead, I want an autopsy done on my body. It might help all the people who, like me and my two children, drank the water in Camelford all those years ago."
For she and her family were victims of one of Britain's most high-profile public health scandals in which victims complained of brain damage, memory loss and joint problems."
Also from the story:
...dead women had "high levels" of aluminium in their brains...
...Hundreds began to suffer effects after drinking or bathing - including skin peeling, hands and lips sticking together, hair turning green and fingernails blue.
...By nightfall that day, people were vomiting and had diarrhoea. Next morning, many had skin burns, aching joints and mouth ulcers that took weeks to heal.
...A few months later Angela became ill.
...She was diagnosed with cancer of the lymph glands of the leg. She had an operation to remove the resulting malignant growth on her left thigh. She has since undergone another operation to remove a new growth on the same leg."
Notably, the fingernails turning blue being reported in this story as a result of aluminum sulfate poisoning is strikingly similar to the "blackened finger tips" eluded to earlier in this story, which has been described as a "detoxification" effect. (http://www.listen2yourgut.com/blog/...)
Of course, the level of toxic exposure to aluminum sulfate that occurred in the UK was at extremely high levels -- far higher than what a person would likely experience from consuming "super shots" of Adya Clarity. Yet this historical event demonstrates what can happen when aluminum sulfate is consumed in toxic quantities. It's not a pretty picture.
Read that full story, if you wish, at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...
My 15 concerns about Adya Clarity
In all, this investigation into Adya Clarity (also called "black mica extract" or Themarox) has left me with numerous concerns that I consider to be quite serious. Here are my top 15 concerns:
#1) I am concerned that Adya Clarity is mined just a few dozen miles from the Fukushima nuclear power complex that recently suffered a meltdown and spewed radiation into the atmosphere. I would hope that the supplier of Adya would publicly post a verifiable radiation test report to dismiss any such concerns about possible radiation contamination.
#2) I am concerned that the founder of Adya, Inc. describes Adya Clarity as a "food" when it is clearly not a food but rather derived from a collection of mined minerals combined with sulfuric acid.
#3) I am concerned that the concentration of aluminum in Adya Clarity appears to have been hidden from customers on the label by listing it in "trace minerals" when in fact it is the second most common element in the product, just after iron.
#4) I am concerned that the Adya Clarity manufacturer has such poor quality control measures in place that they admittedly shipped out a very large number of mislabeled Adya Clarity products -- and then did not feel any obligation to alert customers to this mislabeling.
#5) I am concerned that Adya Clarity is being marketed for internal consumption when there is no clinical evidence or even published scientific papers that have been made available to NaturalNews which supports the safety of the Adya Clarity product for internal consumption.
#6) I am concerned that the high level of iron in Adya Clarity may result in acute iron toxicity in some individuals who take "super shots" of Adya, especially if they are genetically predisposed to iron toxicity.
#7) I am concerned that Adya Clarity is imported as "battery acid" but sold as a health supplement for internal use.
#8) I am concerned that the level of aluminum in Adya Clarity may present a health hazard when consumed on a regular basis, as aluminum is well known to potentially accumulate in the human body and contribute to a variety of neurological disorders. We do not yet conclusively know this to be a fact, but neither do we know it to be safe, and that's the point. We should follow the "precautionary principle" when considering the internal consumption of non-food items containing concentrations of aluminum or other metals known to exhibit potentially harmful effects.
#9) I am concerned that when asked why he did not list the concentration of aluminum on the Adya Clarity label, the founder of the company told me, essentially, "Because I didn't want to." To me, this indicates a callous disregard for full disclosure to customers and a reckless abandonment of fundamental ethical principles that should always be present when marketing nutritional supplements labeled for internal use.
#10) I am concerned that the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) I received from Adya Clarity appears to be nothing more than a non-official Word document and does not resemble the traditional MSDS documents typically accompanying hazardous substances. as a Word document, it could have easily been modified or edited to eliminate information that the importer did not want other people to see, in much the same way that the label was designed to avoid listing the concentration of aluminum.
#11) I am concerned that both children and expectant mothers may be especially at risk due to high consumption of both iron and aluminum, and yet there are no warnings or cautions that accompany the Adya Clarity product which would reasonably inform a pregnant women (or a mother of a child) to exercise caution in the use of this product.
#12) I am concerned that the unsubstantiated health claims being used to market Adya Clarity cast a shadow of doubt over the entire natural products industry which, in most cases, sells very safe, effective and well-documented products for consumption.
#13) I am concerned that in a time when most of us are trying to remove heavy metals, aluminum and other contaminants from our water (fluoride, BPA, etc.), Adya Clarity is being sold with the message that we need to add something to our water -- something that contains aluminum. This is especially concerning given that aluminum is one of the adjuvants used in vaccines, which is one of the reasons informed consumers seek to avoid vaccine injections.
#14) I am concerned that those who are marketing Adya Clarity did not exercise fundamental due diligence in determining the evidence-based safety of this product before marketing it for internal use.
#15) I am concerned that the Adya Clarity label contains no warnings about iron consumption and no warnings for cumulative aluminum consumption.
My principles and ethics
As the editor of NaturalNews, I have an obligation to keep my ear to the ground and pay attention to what's going on in the natural health industry. In the past, I have exposed the deceptive marketing practices of companies like General Mills, which sells "blueberry - pomegranate" cereal that contains no blueberries or pomegranates! (http://www.naturalnews.com/031053_G...)
I have helped expose dangers of vaccines and the aluminum contaminants in those vaccines, which many people believe help explain why vaccines may cause autism and other neurological disorders. Day after day, we here at NaturalNews seek to share information about health-enhancing products that are safe and effective while exposing dangerous chemicals in foods, cosmetics, medicines and environmental products that threaten human health.
In my years as NaturalNews editor, I have seen it all: The good guys who really offer remarkable health solutions, and the con artists who are selling quack products just to make a quick buck. I've seen products hyped way beyond their true merit and sold with outrageous claims that simply have no basis in fact, and at the same time I've seen humble nutrients like vitamin D -- which are truly miraculous -- never get the real publicity they deserve as truly amazing cures.
When I talk to people and start getting evasive answers about their products, red flags start to pop up in my head. An honest company selling a mineral complex like Adya, I believe, would have been happy to provide me with an official MSDS and some documentation supporting the safety of their product when ingested. An honest company would have honestly labeled their product to achieve full disclosure and not resorted to hiding one element by burying it in the "trace minerals" section of their label.
I personally did not find Adya, Inc. to be forthright in providing answers to my reasonable questions, nor in providing any reliable evidence whatsoever to support the idea that their product may be safely ingested on a regular basis.
My conclusions
Based on my research and considerable history in the natural products industry, it is my belief that the Adya Clarity product is mislabeled, and I have a question of whether Adya Clarity as it is sold today may stand in violation of California Proposition 65 due to its aluminum content.
Based on the evidence I have gathered, I believe the product presents a potential risk of harm to some individuals if consumed in accordance with the way in which it has been labeled and marketed.
Everything I have stated in this article is believed to be accurate and true. If any factual mistakes are brought to my attention, I will correct them in a timely manner and issue all appropriate corrections.
For the record, I have no financial stake in Adya Clarity, neither its success nor failure. I do not sell or promote any competing product. I am willing to testify under oath in a court of law to the statements and findings I have made herein. I write this out of concern for the safety of NaturalNews readers who deserve to hear the full story on this increasingly popular dietary product.
I am committed to taking whatever action is necessary to further investigate this story and help contribute to the safety of consumers who have put their trust in the natural products industry.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034005_Adya_Clarity_consumer_alert.html#ixzz1cUimWOzo
I have used it for 3 weeks, just use your filter without it, Keep adya for emergency if only soiled water available
regards to all
roman
Patrikas
2nd November 2011, 00:15
I was just about to post the story from Natural News, Onawah! Glad you posted it. My husband and I have been taking Adya Clarity for 18 days now. I can't say we have had any spectacular results so far although my joints generally hurt less, but that could always be a placebo effect. I was very impressed with what I read about Adya Clarity and the results people say they have had.
After reading the Natural News article just now... we'll stop using it. I will be interested to hear the response from those who are selling it as I haven't got a clue who is right and who is less right but Mike Adams from Natural News is usually right on about things he posts so I have an inclination to believe him.
The WORST thing is that my husband will now accuse me of trying to poison him again!! LOL
Nancy :)
Hi
i have just read the article from mike Adams from natural news about the concerns he has with Adya Clarity also and came here to post it and found it alreay had been done so thanks to u onawah .....blessings
onawah
2nd November 2011, 08:44
I don't know, Roman, this last article would certainly convince me if I still had any doubts.
It doesn't sound like a safe product to me.
Adya Clarity (black mica extract) concerns answered in revealing interview with Roy Dittman, integrative medicine scientist
Wednesday, November 02, 2011
http://www.naturalnews.com/034037_Adya_Clarity_aluminum.html
(NaturalNews) In the aftermath of the apology and recall issued on the Adya Clarity product by its top North American distributor, many people are concerned about whether they may have inadvertently exposed themselves to toxic levels of iron or aluminum, the two most common elements found in the Adya Clarity product (derived from Themarox, also referred to as "black mica extract").
To help answer these questions, I spoke to Roy Dittman, OMD, co-publisher of books on the implications of metals on fetal brain development and an integrative medicine practitioner who is well versed in raw food vegan dietary choices.
He is also a key developer of the "Original Quinton" product (http://www.originalquinton.com), a marine solution harvested from ocean phytoplankton. For the record, this is not a competing product with Adya Clarity, which is only licensed as an "iron supplement." In addition, Roy Dittman has played a key role in several biotech companies from the conventional science world. He has a very diverse background ranging from holistic medicine to conventional biotechnology. He is, for example, a founding member of the California Acupuncture Association, but he's also the president of Nanospherx, Inc., and a managing member of Biofuture, LLC (http://www.corporationwiki.com/Cali...).
We spoke about the following topics:
• The difference between ORGANIC and INORGANIC minerals or metals.
• What does "bioavailable" really mean when it comes to minerals?
• What are the implications of consuming Adya Clarity if you are pregnant? (Warning!)
• Why many people who have suffered aluminum poisoning are in a state of self-delusional denial that actually verges on an outright psychotic breakdown. (This may explain the literal insanity of some who have taken the most "super shots" and are still defending it.)
• Why adding Adya Clarity to juice containing natural vitamin C might enhance your body's absorption of aluminum (not a good thing).
• Why iron overload is the No. 1 cause of heart disease in men, and why most men need to eliminate iron from their bodies, not take in more!
Listen to the full interview at this link:
http://www.NaturalNews.com/podcasts...
Quotes from the interview
Here are some of the key quotes from the interview, organized by topic for your convenience.
All quotes are from Roy Dittman, OMD.
Possible toxicity of Adya Clarity due to its iron and aluminum sulfate content
"We of course don't know the full implication yet of this product on, for instance, human fetal brain development, but we do know that the implications for human adults is very different from the implications for human fetuses. Keep in mind the fetal brain is absorbing everything. When it's developing, it's just a few cells, it doesn't have kidneys, it doesn't have a liver which we use to filter our blood and clean our blood."
(Note: He is referring to early-stage fetal development, before 11 weeks.)
Chemistry 101 and "organic" vs. "inorganic" minerals
"There's a huge difference between inorganic and organic minerals. Organic minerals are things that come [from] plants, animal byproducts, and so on. It's been processed by nature. ...It has taken mineral rock and converted it into bioavailable form for human consumption. That's why we eat those things. Now, our bodies are not built to absorb inorganic minerals, like say... plants can. Plants are perfectly suited for transforming these inorganic minerals into organic form, and that's why we eat plants."
"To claim that we can transform these [inorganic rocks] into organic minerals is a huge long shot, a huge stretch. It's a huge claim. I don't see how they can claim that."
"[Adding sulfuric acid to the minerals] is not converting it to an organic mineral. It's still an inorganic mineral, but now it's in solution, so now it's more absorbable, which means it's more toxic in my opinion."
About the idea of drinking and absorbing these inorganic minerals dissolved in sulfuric acid
"You're doing the opposite of what you want to do. You don't want to be absorbing inorganic minerals better... because they just sit there in your body, and they cause damage. They cause problems. That's the opposite of what you want to do. People are confusing absorption with bioavailability."
"The absorption of something with the potential to cause that much damage to your cell membranes, and to think about what it will do as you accumulate that... remember you can ingest something and absorb it better, but that's not [always] a good thing because that's something you want to be eliminating, not absorbing, first of all. And how are you going to eliminate that? Because inorganic metals just sit there. And they've done studies on them, they don't know how to get them out. The question is, how do you get it out? So if you're just accumulating this more and more, it may take a while until you notice some serious symptoms, but then when you find out you're sick or you have a heart problem from the iron oxide building up in the heart tissue, how are you going to get that out?"
When asked about the selective absorption of minerals as claimed by Adya, Inc. which says the aluminum sulfate is somehow not absorbed:
"That's ridiculous. That's not even logical. They are all going to be absorbed the same, the big questions is, what are they taking it for? Why are people taking this? Because the [minerals] you shouldn't be getting are in very high amounts. I don't quite get it. What is the point here?"
Iron toxicity
"Absorbing iron oxide is the opposite of what any male wants to do. Men don't need extra iron. In fact, they need to remove iron from their blood. In fact, it's the No. 1 cause of heart disease in men. It's the worst thing you could be doing."
"There are different forms of iron, various elemental alloys that come in nature. The kind you find in dirt are some of the most dangerous kinds, because they are exposed to the elements, it's like consuming rust. ... It's the worst possibly way you could consume iron anyway."
Metals overload side effects - when asked about the "black stuff" Adya users report coming out of their ears or fingers
"I think it's a sign of severe toxicity. Those are classic examples of heavy metals toxicity, what you're describing. And very dangerous heavy metal toxicity, actually."
Self delusions, insanity and the psychosis that happens after metals poisoning
"Heavy metals can cause homicidal behavior, psychotic behavior, people can have full psychotic breaks. If you go in any mental institution, it's infections and heavy metal poisoning..."
"When someone's consuming something like iron with aluminum, you're getting a kind of self-delusional mental syndrome going on. Because aluminum is something that interferes with your normal brain function. These people become very spacey, very dull-witted, parts of their brain are not working. Aluminum interferes with brain function."
"When you combine high copper with high mercury, or high iron, or other toxins like aluminum, you have a real problem, because especially aluminum and copper have this very toxic numbing effect on the brain, that [becomes] a severe mental disorder after a while. You have a self-deluded kind of personality. It's well known in the industry, with holistic doctors who work with people who have high copper, high mercury and high aluminum, it's really hard to work with those patients because they're usually in some kind of denial, self-delusion, they think they're healthy when they're not, they're the toughest patients to work with."
"The accumulation of high copper which has increased dramatically since the 60's, I think it used to be less than 5% of Americans to now over 80% in certain areas have copper toxicity -- that and aluminum toxicity and mercury toxicity -- these are all epidemic right now, and correlated with autism spectrum disorders, mental disorders of all kinds, and really self-delusional patterns of thinking. I don't know of a nicer way to say it. My colleagues have observed the same thing, it's established in the scientific literature as well, that they become self delusional and somewhat psychotic in extreme cases. They can have psychotic breaks, they can completely lose their minds. They become homeless and they can't function."
"If someone already has a pattern of high mercury and copper, and then you add iron oxide and aluminum sulfate, I mean, you've got a nightmare on your hands. It's a complex web of toxicity, from which I don't know how they would get out of that by themselves without expertise and guidance."
About pregnant women consuming Adya Clarity and inorganic aluminum sulfate
"That's my main concern. The implications are far greater for the fetal brain than it is for us, because remember, the [fetus] doesn't have developed kidneys and liver [early on]. So it's just accumulating these heavy metals into its brain, and this is well established in animal research, and they get it through the breast milk, they get it directly through placental membranes, and this is my concern because it's so much more toxic to the fetal brain. And it's permanent damage. You're talking about mental retardation, autism spectrum disorders... my concern is that this has already happened. I'm really worried about this. Unfortunately a lot of people when I've spoken to them about Adya, they don't seem to understand that this is a very serious thing."
"I just spoke with someone yesterday who had a patient, and she said wow, I have a patient who's taking this right now, and she's pregnant, and she just got right away -- oh my god -- and she immediately started texting this woman, please stop taking that right now. Because she realized the implications. But a lot of people don't realize the implications. They don't know that the fetal brain is so much more susceptible and vulnerable. The damage that occurs is permanent. It's really hard to reverse that damage, because the developmental brain in the human being, it takes a long time to develop, it's very delicate. We have amazing brains but they're extremely sensitive to toxins. This is something new to humanity, I don't think we understand the history around why this is a big issue, because it wasn't until 200 years ago that we had to think about how we are throwing all these heavy metals into our food chain."
About scientific integrity within the natural products industry
"If we get into myths and scientific half-truths, we only discredit our entire industry and make fools of ourselves in front of medical scientists, doctors, and people who are experts in this field. And that's exactly what Big Pharma wants us to do, and FDA, this is the perfect excuse they need to step in and say hey you guys are so irresponsible, we have to step in and manage you guys because you can't manage your own industry. [They would say] let's re-do DSHEA and make new laws to start making you comply."
"The way we need to do this is restore the integrity to the products so that we can make sure we're in compliance with standards that we would not expose our own children to. We know better than to expose our children to heavy metals these days. The state of California has very high standards... so in California, you cannot expose people to any high dosage of heavy metals without warnings, and precautions."
Dangers of adding Adya Clarity to juice
"Vitamin C can, it's well known that it dramatically increases the absorption of aluminum. So if somebody says I'm going to take this product Adya Clarity with vitamin C and that's going to be even better, no, wrong, now it's much worse! You've just dramatically increased your absorption of aluminum."
"Back to Adya Clarity and these kind of products, in my opinion this damages your immune system, it supresses your immune function in the long run, and if you want to get minerals, there are a lot better ways to get minerals. Vegetable juicing, let's go back to the basics, you know?"
Why consuming lead, mercury or aluminum may make you "feel good" at first
"Iron can give you energy initially, but in the long run it's accumulating and can cause serious problems with your heart and other damage to your system. Same with aluminum. A lot of these things initially can give you a hit of energy. Lead is well known."
Listen to the full interview at:
http://www.NaturalNews.com/podcasts...
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034037_Adya_Clarity_aluminum.html#ixzz1cXGJe5Nl
ROMANWKT
2nd November 2011, 16:44
OK this is the response from the suppliers of Adya Clarity they sent to me by email, http://www.blackmicaextract.biz/response.html
Looks and sounds good to me.
Regards to all
roman
ROMANWKT
2nd November 2011, 18:14
sorry double post, ignore.
onawah
2nd November 2011, 18:22
Yes, it does look good, Roman.
I know nothing about chemistry, so I am not someone who can make even an educated guess about who is right.
Mike Adams does tend to be a hothead and a loose cannon, though he often provides a lot of good info on his website too.
In any case, if there really is a problem with this product, people have been warned, and if there's not, this will probably all blow over.
I will post a message on Natural News with the link you provided.
People should know the whole story before they attempt to decide for themselves.
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