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Rantaak
9th October 2011, 10:33
So I came here looking for answers, really. All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear. That is to say that some of the content in these forums is far more entertaining than daytime television, though the puritanical obsession with external proof and external saviors is overwhelming and leaves my awareness feeling disheveled. It is clear that nothing has influence over us, it is merely presented to us as information and we have the choice of taking or leaving it. I have yet to take anything presented to me in this community.

I felt a tremendous sense of hype while applying to be a member on this forum; why would anyone require an application process of immense detail if they didn't feel important enough to closely scrutinize the background and unique rich experiences of every posting member?

Anywho, I'm gonna go somewhere else and maybe change the world.

ktlight
9th October 2011, 10:39
Rantaak, I cannot believe you have looked at the entire forum in two months. I say be patient and continue your search. There's a search field at the top of the page and a more detailed search in advanced search, a little above that.

Tony
9th October 2011, 10:40
No..No .. please stay!!! It's people like you we need. Please pretty please....stay!!!!!
Get it all off your chest.
Tony

Tarka the Duck
9th October 2011, 10:46
Hello Rantaak
Nice to meet you!
If I may ask...what are the questions for which you came to Avalon seeking answers?
There are many 'aspects' to this forum: what are your main areas of interest?
Kathie

Tony
9th October 2011, 10:50
I've just looked at your profile, you have much to offer.
Help change things.

Tony

Ilie Pandia
9th October 2011, 10:53
why would anyone require an application process of immense detail if they didn't feel important enough to closely scrutinize the background and unique rich experiences of every posting member?

The reason we have an application process in place is simply for screening. We do not see ourselves as more important or knowledgeable than the form members.

This was simply the best solution (that is going through continual improvement I might add) to filter out trolls, spammers, automatic registration bots or any "creative" programmatic way to attack the forum. The application process is also required to maintain the standards of friendliness and respect that we enjoy here at Avalon. Respect and friendliness cannot be "dictated by forum rules", so we do our best to only let in members that are already friendly and respectful :).

That being said, yes, there is a lot of fear mongering going on. However, please keep in mind that each member here, is at his or hers own stage of "discovering the world" as it really is. So before judging anybody to be "wrong" or "misinformed", keep in mind that perhaps they did not yet process the information that you have or they have come upon a different source of information than you did.

So you have a choice: you either look for information more appropriate to where you're at, or, if you can, you kindly lend a helping hand to those that need the information you already know. (of course those are not the only two possible options :), you can find other creative ways to make use of your presence here).

Lisab
9th October 2011, 11:07
Hey Rantaak hope you stay. There are many levels of consiousness so they say and I believe Im in and out of the levels constantly sometimes daily. Back and forth I go. And I always say "I reserve the right to change my mind". Really hope you change yours if not hope you find what your looking for. Love Lisa x

Fred Steeves
9th October 2011, 11:44
I have yet to take anything presented to me in this community.



Wow Rantaak, talk about a tale of two cities. I used to scour youtube by the month to catch the latest interviews with people like David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, George Green, Max Igan, etc., to try and fathom what new and profound ideas and experiences they had to share. I seldom do that any more, because those same kind of people are right here at Avalon.

Not only that, but you can talk with them, ask your own questions, bat your own ideas back and forth with them until even better ones come out of the oven, and you can even argue with them a little every now and then if need be.:) I think that's just the coolest thing ever!

IMHO, the fear mongering thing tends to get blown way out of proportion. For one, I like to use the example of a tornado warning. If a warning is issued for my area, I don't consider it fear mongering. I'm glad to be informed of possible real danger, and maybe have some leeway time to prepare accordingly. Or, if it's not for my particular area, I can ignore it...

Personally, there are only a couple of doomsday scenarios that I take seriously; Economic meltdown and war. Even more so though I feel the very real and growing possibility of either averting these events, or transcending them. If not, and this life ends via shotgun blast or something, as long as I had followed my heart the whole way through and done what I was here to do, it ended in success.

That's really where the nuance is for me; Is the latter scenario a horrible fate, or mission complete?

As they used to say on Monday Night Football years ago: "YOU MAKE THE CALL."

Anyway, if Avalon isn't right for you, that's cool. All you can do is follow you're heart. That's how I finally left the last and only other forum I've ever been on, to wind up plunking down here. No coincidences.

May the winds be at your back either way my friend, and of course

Cheers,
Fred

Erich
9th October 2011, 11:59
So I came here looking for answers, really. All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear. That is to say that some of the content in these forums is far more entertaining than daytime television, though the puritanical obsession with external proof and external saviors is overwhelming and leaves my awareness feeling disheveled. It is clear that nothing has influence over us, it is merely presented to us as information and we have the choice of taking or leaving it. I have yet to take anything presented to me in this community.

I felt a tremendous sense of hype while applying to be a member on this forum; why would anyone require an application process of immense detail if they didn't feel important enough to closely scrutinize the background and unique rich experiences of every posting member?

Anywho, I'm gonna go somewhere else and maybe change the world.

Perhaps your search could begin with an investigation into the source of your opinions and the reasons why you feel the need to post them.

ROMANWKT
9th October 2011, 12:02
Hi Rantaak
Your search for answer here or anywhere else will be fruitless, why??
You are a young guy, and you're going through what many of us have gone before, we had searched and searched and it always leads back to us, by understanding that the truths we seek are just creations of all entities of this planes mind, then the truth should stare you in the face that there is no truth or lies, because they are just creation.

If its understood that all the fears and negative info here or anywhere else is just a consensus of all entities on this plane, including the universal motions and their destructive cycles are with consensus agreement (us), the powers have for thousands of years directed the consensus of this plane by direction, religion, education, and today's media that makes this direction easier for the powers, as they control everything behind the scenes, that why all the great masters (teachers not gods or gurus) have directed people to look within.

Once you understand that you have to understand this for yourself and its up to others to understand what I have said above, then the consensus has power to make the change that you seek.

There are no lies and truths, there are no wrong or rights, there is absolutely nothing, other that the creation of all entities minds that you perceive on this creative plane. A few thousand people are not going to change the consensus

Start form here and work back to who you really are.
Regards to you

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1
roman

Mark
9th October 2011, 12:28
Sounds like you've taken a lot from the community. You've joined a group of conscious seekers and experienced the massive levels of disinformation and emotionality. Good luck, whatever answers you are searching for. If you find one group who agrees on what those answers are, I do advise you to beware.

Nanoo Nanoo
9th October 2011, 12:38
i look inside ... most answers are there .. then i come here and tell Avalon what my truth is. :)

N
N

ROMANWKT
9th October 2011, 12:45
i look inside ... most answers are there .. then i come here and tell Avalon what my truth is. :)

N
N

Well said, but not quite right, for the understanding would be not your truth, for there isn't any, would be the conclusion, as for returning from within you are sharing in a consensual reality, created by all.

Tell me does this reality exists when you go within????????????

regards
roman

motherlove
9th October 2011, 12:49
It could be said that this forum is a representation of the world there are many of us in different stages of inquiry and help. There are also the ones where no response would be acceptable as they are the author of their own and others demise. Just like what is going on in the world. Best Wishes.

Nanoo Nanoo
9th October 2011, 12:50
i look inside ... most answers are there .. then i come here and tell Avalon what my truth is. :)

N
N

Well said, but not quite right, for the understanding would be not your truth, for there isn't any, would be the conclusion, as for returning from within you are sharing in a consensual reality, created by all.

Tell me does this reality exists when you go within????????????

regards
roman

... these ones go to eleven ....

ROMANWKT
9th October 2011, 12:54
It could be said that this forum is a representation of the world there are many of us in different stages of inquiry and help. There are also the ones where no response would be acceptable as they are the author of their own and others demise. Just like what is going on in the world. Best Wishes.

Its such a shame that you are not willing to explain yourself????????
roman

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i look inside ... most answers are there .. then i come here and tell Avalon what my truth is. :)

N
N

Well said, but not quite right, for the understanding would be not your truth, for there isn't any, would be the conclusion, as for returning from within you are sharing in a consensual reality, created by all.

Tell me does this reality exists when you go within????????????

regards
roman

... these ones go to eleven ....

I meant when you meditate, not dimensions.

roman

<8>
9th October 2011, 12:55
Hi Rantaak...

Avalons forum are a smorgasbord of different topics from real life we discuss here, even though there are some terrible subjects here, we bring them up to make sense of them together.
And it's not like you don't have a choice, there are many threads i dont read because of the title i understand it's not a subject that vibrates with me.

My guess is that you made this thread because you are disappointed and that's fine, you are a free spirit spread your wings and find an other forum there you only talk about happy things.
If you feel like it.

But you should know even though we discuss difficult subjects, doesn't mean we don't love each other. We laugh and cry but together we are creating the new future there we have nothing to hide,
because we try not to judge and thats makes us not afraid to talk about anything..

Much love to you...:paintgirl:

Nanoo Nanoo
9th October 2011, 12:56
i was quoting Spinal Tap .. sorry , bit off the wall i know ...

Ineffable Hitchhiker
9th October 2011, 13:00
I recommend that you stay, too.
There are many threads that I do not read and yet others that I look forward to reading.
Sometimes I take a break, completely, from the forum and come back to find many new and interesting posts.
I donīt think answers will be handed to you on a platter, no matter where you go. In between the many posts on here, there are pearls of wisdom by posters that have really rattled my concepts and I have found great value in them.

I really do hope that you change your mind and share with us what you have learnt.

Nanoo Nanoo
9th October 2011, 13:04
when i find my truth inside i change the outside to coordinate with it.. things go according to plan that way ... but to be honest i have no clue what the plan actually is..

either way .. what you focus on , you usually find soemthing there .. there are many things to focus on here .. there ,,, inside ,, outside.. way out there ...

N
N

ROMANWKT
9th October 2011, 13:06
I will repeat myself,( copied and pasted from my post here)

by understanding that the truths we seek are just creations of all entities of this planes mind, then the truth should stare you in the face that there is no truth or lies, because they are just creation.

roman

ROMANWKT
9th October 2011, 13:12
when i find my truth inside i change the outside to coordinate with it.. things go according to plan that way ... but to be honest i have no clue what the plan actually is..

either way .. what you focus on , you usually find soemthing there .. there are many things to focus on here .. there ,,, inside ,, outside.. way out there ...

N
N

You are correct, you make changes, but for you only, its not a powerful enough consensus?? your changed outlook will affect others in your circle and so on, but did I hear that we wish to change the world????

roman

Davidallany
9th October 2011, 13:23
Greetings.

So I came here looking for answers

Good choice, on this forum you'll find many answers, you also have the rare opportunity to be friends with brilliant, awake and positive people, who treat you like a family.


All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear.

You are part of the solution. Can you now imagine being in Bill and Kerry's shoes? Who are subjected to all sorts of informations, yet their love and intensions never dwindled despite the efforts to break their spirit, it will never happen.


That is to say that some of the content in these forums is far more entertaining than daytime television
Maybe it's better to not watch TV all together. It messes with people's heads, is filled with nonsense.


It is clear that nothing has influence over us, it is merely presented to us as information and we have the choice of taking or leaving it.
Its the power of hypnosis, subliminal messages are everywhere, they have been drilled into people subconscious mind since childhood and teenage years, but is decreased with enhanced power of reasoning as we get more experienced in life. Of course if one is awake and in a better contact with the higher self then all doubts are erased, answers will come almost instantaneously and so do solutions. For that meditation and deep reflection is needed. You'll find the forum rich with information on meditation, reflection and awareness. I also suggest visiting Inelia's site, http://www.ascension101.com. For further concentrated insights.


Anywho, I'm gonna go somewhere else and maybe change the world.
Go for it, may you find peace to your heart's satisfaction. Always know that you are indeed appreciated.

transiten
9th October 2011, 13:44
:lol:Hello Rantaak!

I just love your play with words! Avalon Fearum! That's hilarious and although i could be your grandmother i can totally identify with you. Thing is i discovered i can choose the positive threads like watching this guy cuddle with a leoness and her cubs, alternative health tips and selfsustainable life style.

It's like changing channels on TV. Well i'm drawn to the conspiracy info also and sometimes i just had enough and have to take a break. By the way just listened to an awesome guy Alan Watts, talking about spiritual humour, made my day. It's in the "Don't play the fear game" thread, should suit you well.

transiten

Unified Serenity
9th October 2011, 13:50
What I love about this forum is we even care when a post like this is made, and we do care. We find value in all seekers, and thus we see the posts that have appeared responding to the OP. We are very much like a big crazy family. We share our thoughts and simply ask that we all show respect to one another. There are threads about being positive and for those members, some seem to say they will NOT go to any thread that has a "negative" vibe to them. That is just fine, do what feels right for you. Why not start your own thread and share what is important to you?

PurpleLama
9th October 2011, 14:08
No offence to the OP, but I believe the quality of the posts so far show this isn't much of a "fearum". IMO.

Mad Hatter
9th October 2011, 15:26
Mad Hatter dons his contrarian cap...just for balance:p

So I came here looking for answers, really.
Where? Planet Earth or Avalon Fearum as you so tritely put it??

All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear.
That being the case I am green with envy of the speed reading skills you must posses but my own comprehension of the material to be found in the 'Alt Science / Medicine' , 'Spirituality' and 'Living of the grid' sub forums does not see much empirical evidence for your sweeping claim. If on the other hand you are actually refering to the barrage of information of the latest situations from around the world to be found under the 'Todays Posts' button you may have a point. But is that not a reflection of the reality discovered to date??

That is to say that some of the content in these forums is far more entertaining than daytime television, You got that right!! Do you still watch TV??

though the puritanical obsession with external proof and external saviors is overwhelming and leaves my awareness feeling disheveled.
From that statement I would suggest you steer clear of any scientific subject matter since puritanical obsession with proof as you put it is the hallmark of good science.

It is clear that nothing has influence over us, it is merely presented to us as information and we have the choice of taking or leaving it.
What pray tell influenced you to join Avalon in the first place? If as you started out saying it was merely looking for answers then surely reading without joing to gain the ability to comment should suffice. I therefore take it that at some deeper level you felt the need to sign up and judging by the OP I look forward to highly positive, insightful, introspective input from you should you decide to stick around, which I honestly hope you do.

I have yet to take anything presented to me in this community.
Once again that is your choice, but I would repectfully like to point out that what you say could be construed in several ways. ie Nothing here is new to you, which would indicate wisdom wildly beyond your years or an IQ of the charts, lucky you, or the statement smacks of a certain arrogance, take your pick. It could also be constured that what you find here is not to your liking or does not resonate. Fair enough but personally I have probably learned more from those with a different vanatge point or perception than from those who supply me with confirmation bias.

I felt a tremendous sense of hype while applying to be a member on this forum; why would anyone require an application process of immense detail if they didn't feel important enough to closely scrutinize the background and unique rich experiences of every posting member?
I believe one of the forums many resident gentlemen has more than adequately explained this for you.

Anywho, I'm gonna go somewhere else and maybe change the world.
I take it by that statement you consider you are able to be an unreasonable person, since the world has only ever been changed by unreasonable people. Those who are prepared to draw a line in the sand and say I will not cross. In which case I again look forward to you being part of the dialogue here amongst all the beautifully unreasonable people either helping define the true nature of the problem(s) or imaginative solutions that benefit all.

I'll leave you with one of my favourite quotes, take it or leave it....

We sit together, the mountain and I, till only the mountain remains. Li Bai

Mike
9th October 2011, 15:40
Rantaak, maybe you should go check out 'Above Top Secret' or 'Godlike Productions'. i hear they've really got their sh#t together over there.

p.s. i'll see ya back here in about 5 minutes;)

Mutchie
9th October 2011, 15:45
hi there rantalk this forum is what we make of it....take some of it with a pinch of salt ...much respect

nottelling
9th October 2011, 16:07
It is a fact that there are many people who actually enjoy reading about doom and negativity. That's why movies about war and disaster and horror are popular. Action and excitement, no matter how negatively oriented, let people feel, something - anything and they also serve a purpose as a warning. Any conspiracy theory/alternative news website will have its share of potential doom and gloom. For instance, there are some Christians out there who do believe the end times are here and actively look forwards to the end of the world. On that day of judgement they believe they will be judged as worthy. I'm certainly not judging Christians here, but that's just one possible reason why "doom" stories are popular on websites. Take such stories with a grain of salt and recognise them as being a (mostly) intellectual "what-if?" exercise conducted for thrills. Social, Political, Financial doom stories are probably the most realistic and likely of the doom stories, but you'll get that anywhere. People are concerned with these very real issues and like to discuss them in a comfortable and safe environment.

As others have said, Project Avalon is so very much more than the relatively small percentage of doom threads. I have had tears of joy in my eyes reading some of the beautiful threads here. Avalon is civil, it is aware, it has a self-empowerment focus, it presents to us a collective of new ideas and thoughts on not only being the divine beings we are, but on creating the best world we can. I'd class that as positive.

I'm only new here, but my advice would be to stick around and delve into those topic areas which interest you most. You may be surprised at the lack of fear and at the amount of positive energy radiating forth.

And for the record, I also choose not to participate in the doom threads.

jackovesk
9th October 2011, 16:09
So I came here looking for answers, really.

What do you want to Know..?

RMorgan
9th October 2011, 16:18
It is a fact that there are many people who actually enjoy reading about doom and negativity. That's why movies about war and disaster and horror are popular. Action and excitement, no matter how negatively oriented, let people feel, something - anything and they also serve a purpose as a warning. Any conspiracy theory/alternative news website will have its share of potential doom and gloom. For instance, there are some Christians out there who do believe the end times are here and actively look forwards to the end of the world. On that day of judgement they believe they will be judged as worthy. I'm certainly not judging Christians here, but that's just one possible reason why "doom" stories are popular on websites. Take such stories with a grain of salt and recognise them as being a (mostly) intellectual "what-if?" exercise conducted for thrills. Social, Political, Financial doom stories are probably the most realistic and likely of the doom stories, but you'll get that anywhere. People are concerned with these very real issues and like to discuss them in a comfortable and safe environment.

As others have said, Project Avalon is so very much more than the relatively small percentage of doom threads. I have had tears of joy in my eyes reading some of the beautiful threads here. Avalon is civil, it is aware, it has a self-empowerment focus, it presents to us a collective of new ideas and thoughts on not only being the divine beings we are, but on creating the best world we can. I'd class that as positive.

I'm only new here, but my advice would be to stick around and delve into those topic areas which interest you most. You may be surprised at the lack of fear and at the amount of positive energy radiating forth.

And for the record, I also choose not to participate in the doom threads.

Thatīs true. However, we all know how hard it is to build good reputation, and how easy it is to ruin it. This is what is happening here.

There are many amazing threads here, but some really crazy unfounded threads gain so much traction, often leading to a 10+ pages of discussion, that they obfuscate the good ones.

christian
9th October 2011, 16:32
All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear.

What's going on? I have no clue. Now I'm afraid.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xttyf9c8pBI/ShRRR64Dt8I/AAAAAAAAA_c/v1OIrW2fWTA/s400/cornholio1.jpg

Of course I'm being absurd to illustrate absurdity. Actually, I feel very balanced, fearless and happy.

These are a few quotes from Bill's recent economic collapse thread and from the heads up thread:


I hope that if and when the time comes for such a horrendous event, that I will remember who I am, why I am here and not to fear anything...I hope the same for the rest.


This imminent economic collapse is the break down of an artifical system.[...] We knew this system had to come down, we asked that it come down, and now it is. [...] We intended that it be so and here we are. well done.


Thanks Bill, Peace to all the world and may blessings abound for all in these days of confusion and wonder :)


You will be exactly where you need to be doing exactly what you need to be doing, whether you choose to take action on the information in this thread, or not. There is a divine plan that is both within and beyond anything any of us have ever known or experienced. Have faith in yourself and your own personal journey and intuition.


Thanks Bill. I'd suggest we all bring powers of mind to bear here. Get into a space where you are truly free of fear and anxiety yourself. Dismantle HAARP if you're worried about HAARP. Send the Light of Awareness to the hearts of individuals you think might be involved. SOOTHE and CALM the Earth. CALM, CALM, CALM. Put up shields of protection around LA if you're worried about LA. Bounce any HAARP signals back upon themselves.

We want the best for the planet and its lifeforms. One hopes and trusts that the Light is greater than the Dark and that a massive disaster will not materialize as the expression of conscious and unconscious fears. As Inelia says, Do Not AGREE to this event if you do not want it to happen.

Love and peace to all,
Doodah

Now I'm not saying, that there is absolutely no sign of confusion or fear left among the members and posts. What a surprise!

Create a better world wherever you want, good luck anyways mate! :yo:

greybeard
9th October 2011, 16:45
There is a spiritual section here which is full of uplifting videos and many contribute with positive threads and posts.
Its open for all to read and to post to if they so wish.
I can say no more.

Chris

Camilo
9th October 2011, 16:56
You'll never find the truth but inside, but your interaction with other likeminded people will stimulate your own insights, and enrich your perspectives.

Good luck in whatever desicion you make. May you find your answers.

Blessings

starsha
9th October 2011, 17:26
So I came here looking for answers, really. All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear. That is to say that some of the content in these forums is far more entertaining than daytime television, though the puritanical obsession with external proof and external saviors is overwhelming and leaves my awareness feeling disheveled. It is clear that nothing has influence over us, it is merely presented to us as information and we have the choice of taking or leaving it. I have yet to take anything presented to me in this community.

I felt a tremendous sense of hype while applying to be a member on this forum; why would anyone require an application process of immense detail if they didn't feel important enough to closely scrutinize the background and unique rich experiences of every posting member?

Anywho, I'm gonna go somewhere else and maybe change the world.

Words in and of themselves are neutral. It's how we interpret them, the personal meaning we attach to them, and then ultimately what we choose to do with it all that really matters. There are lots of fearful words, beautiful words, and insightful words all over this forum, but what really interests me is what the people here are choosing to do with it all.

There is always the potential to take someone's words and use them for positive change, regardless of how 'negative' they come across, things are not always what they appear to be on first glance. Any post here can be an opportunity to have a really honest moment within one's self, to stop and re-evaluate something in your own mind, or to really consider 'what is best for all.'

It's all up to you at the end of the day. I for one hope you stay though. :)

Warlock
9th October 2011, 17:35
I have belonged to a few forums. One in particular is made up of people who THINK they have open minds, but they do not. That is the reason why I left after being there for over five years.

This forum has a group of the most open minded people I have ever been with. Just look at how they are responding to your frustrations.
With kindness and respect for your observations.

You can't ask for too much more than that.

Now, listen to the part of you that wanted to join this forum. That's all.

Warlock

Guest
9th October 2011, 17:46
Hi Rantaak,

I have found the people in PA of very fine quality. Sometimes I have to become a detached observer.... when reading through a thread. Just because I don't agree with something doesn't mean that there isn't some truths or answers for me or maybe someone I know or care about. I can also tell you that everyone on PA has great concern and love for the planet and its inhabitants.

Here is a good story for you about an experience I had on PA. While going through one of my favorite threads here, Wade Fraizer A Healed Planet, I found an Alternative Medicine that may help a very ill family member. He is quite elderly and has been battling metastasized prostate cancer for years. He did photon treatment for about 9 mos and it came back. His counts were so high at one time -we all thought this is it. He has been on hormone treatments for years with devastating side effects -he finally found one that does not have as many side effects. This has helped to keep his counts down and slowed the cancer down a bit. I have done so much research into it for years now trying to help him. Herbs, Essiac Tea and I called every medicine person and traditional person I know to do ceremonies and pray for him and yes this has helped. So while going back through some posts on Wade Fraizer's thread, because I joined up on PA at the end of May of this year and I figured I had a lot of catching up to do and it wouldn't hurt to go through previous posts and threads, I found this link to a product called Apex. I went through the entire web page about this product and I probably had a bit of deer in the headlights syndrome. I just couldn't believe it. I told my elderly relative about it and he contacted the people at Apex and began their program. Right now he hasn't had any side effects, his counts are down and his lymph nodes are shrinking. So far so good. He is certainly happy about it and I am happy because he is happy. For him I wish for the best quality life he deserves and some peace. All I can say is that I am very grateful.

So with that said, everyone on PA is human or part human:wave: and thank goodness there is a great human element here and without it there wouldn't be this wonderful element of compassion on PA. A lot of people here have helped me and I have been able to help a few. This is a good community and I stress a very aware community of people and quite lovable.

and as Spock would say live long and prosper

Nora

we are all related

Ascension
9th October 2011, 17:47
Rantaak,

I too, have recently joined the Avalon forum. I spent many years on ATS, reading doom & gloom posts, looking for answers. I was extremely focused on the "reality" of what is going on in our world. At some point, I finally realized that while ATS members have knowledge on many topics, they for the most part, are stuck in a rut so to speak. They are "awake" to the point of knowing we are being deceived but feel the need to argue specific points with each other in a very negative fashion, often resorting to attaching their own judgements to things and name-calling to try to convince others of their beliefs, and never moving on beyond that realization.

There are individuals on ATS who resonate with me, and in fact, led me to research topics of interest on my own, which led me here. This forum is filled with people in many stages of development, some trying to understand, some knowing, but all, for the most part, discussing things without the need to be "right" or be forceful to the point of responding with negativity. People here are able to put forth alternative viewpoints and seem to be able to disagree without the need to tear each other apart. The gloom and doom topics are here, but as you begin to move in your path of discovery, you'll find yourself not reading them anymore and choosing subjects that move you in a more positive direction...at least that is what happening with me.

I was slightly taken aback at the registration process as well, but I see the result of the process as clearly evident in the tone of the responses here. I am so grateful to have landed in a place where I can query ideas that are new to me without being attacked every time I have a question or wish to post an idea. I feel this was supposed to happen and it is part of my evolution process right now.

I hope you that you stay and give the forum a chance.

king anthony
9th October 2011, 17:58
So I came here looking for answers, really. All I seem to have observed throughout the entirety of this forum is confusion and fear... Anywho, I'm gonna go somewhere else and maybe change the world.

I say, with how the "world" is today, one must do what is best for them - possibly in the "world" tomorrow, if/when the human species can "speak as one voice", doing for one's best interest will be no more. My words to you are this.

What you may seek to escape and find elsewhere may follow, for you will always be the common factor in the equations of your life; for the grass may always look greener and what one seeks maybe be that of "imagination".

In closing, my words have always been to aid others to think differently, outside of the social conditioning that is. To (re)learn critical thinking, (reading) comprehension skills, have self-accountability/responsibility, independence and to know by way of journey that which is fact/truth. For the fact/truth is known only if/when one wishes to accept it when "discovered".

I have never told anyone what to think; however, I may be guilty of attempting to aid others to break free of "bondage" (both mental and physical) of what is now (meaning how the world is now), by saying "look for yourselves and not at my or another's words" - while sharing what I do know, based on firsthand knowledge.

The issue for many is that fact/truth is not accepted because it challenges a thought, such as a "belief system" - for these things are for "feel-good" (only) and are emotion based. Know and understand what emotions are and enjoy this part of the human experience in its proper time and place - which is not all the time.

Some may have their own firsthand experiences such as you (may or will); I say, do not accept what has been experienced "on its face", told by another or rely on personal interpretation - for this is not having proper thought. Seek confirmation of that which becomes (or is) in mind as not to be deceived by another, including "those others".

I give you my words in kindness, friendship and aid. I wish you well on your journey in life. Cheers!!!

Mana Moonchild
9th October 2011, 18:11
I have finally come out of my hole. :rapture:

I would like to add in my two cents, if I may. It may be jumbled and weird but...

I would just like to say that this is a very good forum to be apart of. It's really not doom and gloom all the time or confusion and fear or what have you. It can be very fun, enlightening, and all around nice.

Now, I haven't been here for too long, nor have I said much since I've joined... but, even through what my mother (shadowstalker) has shown me, even through what she has posted, which are nice things, it can all be very nice. Sure you have your occasional spouts of negativity or what have you... but, not always... and it's not always necessarily a bad thing either.

This forum is about growing and learning and discussing, the world is constantly changing and it can be overwhelming so confusion and fear can come up here and there but, that's why people post things, so they won't be afraid or confused. We, generally, help each other grow and understand.

Oh God, this seems all out of whack...

Basically, what I'm trying to say is... stick around, go to the topics you are into and you're bound to find something you like and something that won't upset you too terribly much. But, you really should actually just sit back and take it all in, the good and the bad. You might even make some friends! :bounce:

And I doubt you searched the WHOLE forum ;3

shadowstalker
9th October 2011, 18:56
This vid was dedicated to some one else but I think it applies to many....SENT WITH LOTS-O-LOVE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0MkCuR6Pdc

humanalien
9th October 2011, 19:31
Rantaak:

Truth is a hard pill to swallow but never the less, it is still the truth.
Sure, there is always going to be someone that likes to spread dis info
and this happens on all forums. The thing with this forum is that we
have a lot of intelligent people here that usually can catch these things
and quickly put a stop to the lies. For this, i am grateful to be a member
here.

Some people say that certain threads send off bad vibes to them and that
they choose not to read those threads. This is the choice that you have also.
I don't read every thread in here either because frankly, i think a lot of people
must be nuts to believe in the stuff that they believe in but like i said, i have
the choice of either reading it or not.

If i don't like a thread, then i go on to the next one, plain and simple. As for the
forum in general, you won't find a better bunch of people than you will here. Everyone
specializes in their own areas of info and they post a lot of it. There are a lot of
different subjects or topics to choose from here and i'm sure that there is even
something here that you would enjoy as well.

Rantaak
10th October 2011, 03:13
Thank you all for your sudden attention. I would like to respond to some questions that were asked.

My allegiance is grey, for my soul is in balance. I reject (accept the fruitlessness of) both polarities. Love & Light fuels the malice of the Dark, who command the Light. In this manner, mind-washing techniques and propaganda become irrelevant once you recognize their existence and purpose. Kind of like how it's more effective to admit fear than to deny it. So no, I don't watch television except for the occasional film. Real life is far more interesting and absurd.

Now to focus some attention on Mad Hatter, who seems to have been most perceptive in these matters:

"Where? Planet Earth or Avalon Fearum"
Yes, I often speak in layered generalities, as otherwise my linguistic facilities and active schema would become bored.

"puritanical obsession with proof as you put it is the hallmark of good science"
Yep. [therefore moot]

"What pray tell influenced you to join Avalon in the first place"
The notion that within the masses of disarray would be contained a select few individuals such as yourself who are actually in alignment with my current level of progression.

"Nothing here is new to you, which would indicate wisdom wildly beyond your years or an IQ of the charts, lucky you"
Indeed. Very lucky. I should admit here that I'm fully aware of how arrogant this sounds.

"It could also be construed that what you find here is not to your liking or does not resonate"
Quite a lot of the information on this forum has been in tandem with my beliefs, though I've reached a point where most of it has become irrelevant.

And one more thing I must respond to, from Davidallany, whose posts have often given me great mirth because of their imminent truth.

"Can you now imagine being in Bill and Kerry's shoes? Who are subjected to all sorts of informations, yet their love and intensions never dwindled despite the efforts to break their spirit, it will never happen."
It's because they're minions.

Within is contained the key to every door. We either pander without and experience stagnation, or turn inwards and discover who we really are. Akashic Records? My ass. More misleading nomenclature of alien origin. You are not an animal, you are a God living vicariously through a physical body.

Boundless Gray and Gold
-Sean