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jorr lundstrom

9th October 2011, 19:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGYYihQR9dk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGYYihQR9dk&feature=related

johnf

9th October 2011, 21:56

Incredible show there Jorr. I have had a lot of trouble finding an understandable version of Gnosis that fits into the events of our time in a way that clarfies what our choices our in the light of what those folks knew. Still lestening now.

Muzz

9th October 2011, 23:30

Thankyou Jorr that was very interesting.

TraineeHuman

10th October 2011, 00:36

At last, a 100% accurate and true account of the whole subject of "ETs" as it most concerns us!

joelmags

10th October 2011, 00:46

May i asl url? Sometimes embedded stuff doesnt come out on ipads. Thanks!

jorr lundstrom

10th October 2011, 01:13

This is John Lash work, not bad for a country boy from Maine. LOL

John site: http://www.metahistory.org/

More interviews: http://www.futureprimitive.org/

This is interviews from this summer: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/grok-the-talk

Maria Stade

10th October 2011, 01:47

Amazing work he is doing Mr John Lash !

Here is some more about the same subjekt !

AdzepK-LVtU

jorr lundstrom

10th October 2011, 01:49

May i asl url? Sometimes embedded stuff doesnt come out on ipads. Thanks!

Maybye this will work. LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxS07wTx48&feature=related

Love and carrots on me

Maria Stade

10th October 2011, 01:57

Trans humans the future ?

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-Vl_ZvDyfTI

jorr lundstrom

10th October 2011, 02:11

John Lash speaks on his book: Not in his image

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LorjZibQMX0

modwiz

10th October 2011, 07:08

That was two hours very well spent and it went by very quickly. I guess it helps when you agree with the premise of the presentation and enjoy losing some of the clutter currently clogging the thinking spaces. I am sure his blunt honesty will lose a few people but he has chosen sharp contrast and not gray, fuzzy areas where one can find a fence to sit on.

Thank you Jorr. Welcome back, too.

laughs-last

10th October 2011, 16:39

Thanks Jorr, this Gnostic element has a strong ring with my shamanic channeling. The script being pushed by the mainstream is that our potential is in science, while we shamans understand that we have so much to still utilize within our own mind, the power to shape reality is ours; it seems that these archons link up with the significant others who pushed us out of the dream time, where we were amazing. Their puppet show is failing, hence the cranked up control, which just speeds up their collapse; out with the new and back to the old school. Its gonna be fun, however I pity those who are left outta the loop; I pity them because I have my humanity and recognize that anyone of us could have slipped down the vortex, many are innocent, however nature is fair, not cruel.

BIG LOVE AND PEACE :jester:

jorr lundstrom

10th October 2011, 18:05

When the christian priests came to Britain the Druids offered them to celebrate
life by their side. But when Druids was slughtered by the church the Druids
disappeared over night. Using their shape shufting abilities they changed
their white cloaks to the green ones of the Bards. From the Merlin falcon
to a small unnoticed singer, the wren. LOL And in this way Druidism survived in
an unbroken lineage up to our days. Here is a message from one of my best
beloved friends to all of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvdwamHv_fk&feature=related

bearcow

10th October 2011, 20:56

Davidallany

10th October 2011, 21:04

The entities John talks about Drakonians are very similar to what Islam confirms as Djin. Leo Zagami also talks about the same entities, which is why he allegedly converted to Islam.
In Islamic teachings, the Djin were created from a gaseous matter blue fire and populated Earth long before Man was first made. But due to their mischief the god decided to create something different from solid matter mud and gave Earth to Man. But the Djin still live in their own civilization on the same Earth but on a different dimension. They envy Man who was chosen by the god as a favorite slave, so they try to whisper thoughts of malice and unwholesome deeds to Man, in the hope to see him fail in the eyes of the god, since misery likes company.
In my opinion this is too simplistic, I think it's more than just millions of years of unending jealousy, It's the old anthropocentric conceit.

jorr lundstrom

11th October 2011, 06:47

Sirius White

11th October 2011, 08:51

I have had experience with the Draconians. They serve a purpose even though they may be playing the role of the "bad guy."

This video is something I resonate with, and my past life experiences with Cathars, Gnostics as well as various mystery schools. Mostly memories in form of knowledge.

Relating Archons to the interdimensional (and ET) beings is very close to home, but it is even more convoluted at a more subtle level.

Reality is arranged in the manner it is because of various factors (obviously), but one thing that people often forget about is DNA. DNA almost translates what we call, the holographic universe into a tangible sense, or frequency that it perceives. This is why enabling, opening of the DNA (opening the magickal currents in the mystery schools), and just in general spiritual evolution can allow one to see beyond the "Veil" that is our perceived physical reality.

Archons are like the masters of duality. Furthermore, it is in our DNA to view things dualistic manner, and that's why we have been at war with ourselves for so long. The delusion of duality. Not to say duality is not real, but rather we became "deluded" and exaggerated the duality within ourselves, and manifested into our reality.

Various lineages of shamans have been aware of the "Star nations" and "Star brothers and sisters." One in particular helped me so much in my life with these kind of hyperdimensional, and negative influence that my life changed upside down.

Some of these beings have methods (oddly enough, it is with your consent at an energetic level, view them as self defense mechanisms you allow to form) of "separating" aspects of your soul consciousness from the rest of your body, in otherwords astral manipulation. Some have ways of creating and administering "etheric" implants to create a network to your thoughts, feelings, and habits to sustain "blocks" of awareness, especially people who are awake, aware, and/or spiritually evolved. This manifest physically as depression, illness, lack of energy etc among other things. In otherwords these are "seeds" that then manifest into biology.

The shaman is ideal for healing this work because they can work with the luminous field, the astral and etheric body. By doing "soul retrievals" they work with the subconscious mind in "reconnecting" portions of the self that became "dissociative." By workin directly with etheric body they can feel energies that are inside the body which are not natural to the person. This includes "entities" that are hanging around inside the energy system of the person. They do "removals" for that reason alone, and take the entity into a crystal or rock. Seriously changed my life....

The interdimensional beings work on a level that is unseen to most. When I first "woke up" I began to be visited by what I can only call something similar to the "machines" in the matrix. In the sense that somehow they were right on me, right away. Shut me down, cause me to fear and run away from the unseen side. I realized at that moment the kind of influence of occult nature that affected everybody on the planet.

Yet on an even higher level these beings, what some might call "Draconian" did was not only test me, but train me. To not fear, to love unconditionally as a power that transcends even the advanced methods of mind control. In literal psychic phenomenon, when I tried to resist their methods with force, fear, or anger it only strengthened them. Thus on a collective level it is very clear what humanity has to do with their intent and actions on a day to day basis.

Yes, "walkins" or "shoveins" are like hosting this kind of being. This isn't as negative as it seems but it can be, especially to those who are not spiritually adept or aware. It can influence the psychology and life of the person

I learned how to use my third eye, and how to fight off psychic attacks, as well as protect myself. I learned the importance of visualization, of no-fear, of love, and of proper diet and even habits that are primarily energetic (like sexual behavior) in how to properly protect my bio-energetic field. Using the third eye "allowed" me to see the entities at hand- I was shocked to see entities that resembled the traditional belief of "ETs."

On a collective level I view this is a challenge and test for humanity to be worthy of reaching the "next step."

Yes the Archons are existent. It's crazy how the gnostic teachings relate to what I have learned. I know many people hate the keylontic material, but it is almost identical only without the mechanics, dramas, and new age mumbo jumbo (the Drakon is found in teachings as well).

These beings spliced themselves into our DNA. Remember how I said DNA also creates reality and is the core configuration for how we perceive? The role of the various "33 bloodlines" as some call them, are actually descendent from various lineages of these beings. The reason conspiracy theories revolve around "hybrids" and a lineage of rulers that descend from these beings- is because the DNA compatibility between these humans and beings allow a trans-harmonic influence from their consciousness, to ours. The more compatible the DNA, the more this kind of "soul" can inhabit the body. This is how "starseeds" incarnate into this planet....the human DNA is a huge, rich, diverse conglomerate of various beings in the universe.

In a sense, as the Illuminati insider interview (one on GLP and one on ATS, both have truths and mistruths IMO) said, their souls also come from "offworld" and are "Starseeds" themselves. The methods of various mystery schools resonate with different people precisely not just because of the genetic lineage, but also but also a spiritual one. They are ways of recoding the DNA according to specific configurations which are universal in nature. This is also why psychic abilities develop in human beings in unique and different ways.

This person has a point with the talk of various of the "father gods" in our history that deceived. I have known this since very young, because the One, the Source consciousness does not talk like a jealous being. The DemiUrgus some call them is not just an ET, it is a massive multi-dimensional consciousness that sometimes manifests as "ET's." Or rather, "oversees" the hierarchy in a pyramidal fashion.

Imagine the universe has a template, and that template is mirrored in our genome. Humanity was created to become highly evolved, and incredible beings, and in the jealousy many of these beings came and tried to influence our evolution. By doing so they tried to "make us like them." In Hebrew that's the context of "make man in our image," it implies that we actually existed before. The babylonian confusing of "languages" is both the attempted manipulation of genetic and also our telepathic/natural spiritual connection. The "Fall" is a depiction of the human consciousness as it fell from the higher harmonics.

The positive application of "Man in God's image" is the macro/micro fractal relationship between us and the infinite divine.

The manipulation of our DNA is not merely the manipulation of biology, but of how our consciousness filters through the biology itself. But within our template is immeasurable power and potential to transcend. It is hidden at this moment but is beginning to manifest universally. The whole "indigo" and otherwise thing was not about saviors coming to the earth, the way the earth receives frequencies is through people themselves. They are representations of the promise to humanity to achieve its higher potential essentially, simply be harboring these souls, they emanate in frequency, which in turn "builds" the frequency within collective humanity.

As this happens greater awareness is being spread by amazing people like Kerry/Bill, those on this forum, and all over the world who are beginning to awaken. it is an effect, a spiritual fire that is spreading far and wide. It is a "reemerging" of the luminous child by sort of, "unfolding" the veil that has been placed over us by what the gnostics call the Archons and DemiUrgus.

I understand many may find reason to fear or feel strange when they hear of the archons and the hidden history. But truth is like some believe, this is a massive consciousness experiment.

The hybrid program is ongoing though, I understand the logic of the speaker in regards to not wanting to believe it. They failed yes, but in otherways it was allowed for "healing." More on this in the paragraph after the next.

He is 100% right about defeating trans-humanism. Because truth is human beings have highly advanced abilities that supers cede ANYTHING technology can do. Some of these beings have their power because of this synthetic integration, but we do NOT need it. Not in the manner it is being perpetuated onto us at least. We don't need electro-magnetic networks, or psychotronic interfaces to do telepathy! Telekenesis, manifestation, levitation or ANYTHING. This is all literally gifted into our DNA.

This "imagination" he speaks of is the source of creation, and something we channel and distribute every day as we create our reality. The "Archons" don't have any real power, that's why they have so many advanced methods of "mind control." Because the true potential of our mind, our godspark within, and our ability to use imagination is absolutely incredible. Our "future self" is a perfected being, one in harmony with the divine source and able to embody it in full physical form. Many "masters" like Yeshua (who was WELL aware of gnostic teachings), Siddhas, and many many others (some not known in history) are examples of what human beings are capable of.

The "healing" is that these archons, these beings- while they might have an agenda to misguide, or to intrude our DNA/consciousness (this believe it or not, has to do with STARGATES, or magnetic leylines, also known as the Templar grid or tablets of destiny, as our dna keys into its frequencies) is that they themselves will "heal" along with us as we enter this new domain. The coming earth changes. The role of the Archons from even beyond them, the Drakon, and the highest layer of the DemiUrgus (you disconnected aspects of the Sephiros) is simply to provide a physical, and material reality.

One which is a like a virtual experience separating the experience of spirit and body. We CHOSE this as souls, before we came, and it is part of a bigger "Experiment" and "game." Think of them.....like a "phase" in our development. It was VERY easy to manipulate us while we entered the final Vedic cycle (the decadence and loss of our mystical connection to the Cosmos/Multiverse). But now we are beginning to re-emerge into the light, and furthermore, seeing clearly- not blinded by its pure truth.

It is much like the Masonic degree of walking through the pillars of duality, the checkerboard with the blindfold. Thus is life- as we navigate through the darkened maze, veiled, unaware of our god-self and potential. You have been training like a ninja in the corridors of the darkness for so long, that now you have begun to master it. And thus, it is up to you all, fellow truth seekers to be the ever-burning candles for others to seek and see, to help them find their own path through the labyrinth of the cycle of life and death.

When you see the truth the Archons, the bloodlines, the super secret technology and invasion of consciousness is not so menacing really. What he's saying about it being a "dead end" is absolutely right. That path will lead into extreme separation from the God within and rob us of what we truly are as humans, and our true potential. It's all part of a greater learning scenario so that humans, like rough, uncut diamonds- may through these trials and tribulations (and yes, with the help of our enemies) be honed into a fine, and brilliant diamond- shining god's light clearly.

If they did not exist....how would you know the contrast? How beautiful and full of potential you truly are. I don't hate the "Archons" nor do I fear them. I even used to pity them. No.....love them, and they have no power over you.

As for the psychopaths? They are just playing their role. They are children who know their theme park is about to change- and they just don't want the ride to end. They are afraid so they sold us out. Don't worry about them...they chose their fate, and in a way play the greatest service to us- somebody has to be the enemy.

Take care. :)

Feritciva

12th October 2011, 17:02

Great post Sirius White. Reading your post, I realized as much things as listening to JLL's interview.

There is only one objection though. I wouldn't say defeating transhumanism is %100 necessary. I know everybody (especially New Agers) say human beings are capable of this, capable of that, limitless power etc. but in 3D reality this is NOT the case. We are stuck in our decaying bodies, in non-working social systems, artificial boundaries we call nations etc. etc. The system is prepared to crush living human beings indeed. A lot of people try only to survive - yet become aware of their true potentials.

So, transhumanism or thoughts like Kurzweil's singularity gives kind of hope, kind of motivation for some people. Maybe not for you, not for me but there are brilliant minds working in these areas. So dismissing all of these efforts as "Archon influence" is a bit unfair I think. JLL is a great modern thinker in my opinion and this kind of careless generalisation is not proper, I think.

Remember what is said; "All generalisations are wrong, including this one". :)

jorr lundstrom

12th October 2011, 17:30

Feritciva

12th October 2011, 17:43

I trust in Gaya/ Sophias abilities. If I hadnt, I hadnt been here in this
precious moment.

Now THAT is a trust I have lost for some time. And yes, I was a great believer in Gaia'a abilities too. Possibly spending too much time in various illusions affected my trust.

Thanks for reminding this Jorr!

Sirius White

30th October 2011, 23:47

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-eden-experiment-aliens-archons-the-associative-universe

In the timeless library of human myths and legends, perhaps none are more primal and disturbing than the biblical story of the Fall. Responsible for everything from the demonisation of women to the Church’s pious horror for nature, sex and the body, there is scarcely a life-hating ideology or barbaric practice it hasn’t been used to justify.

For all that, this strange and unsettling story has lost none of its melancholy power over the centuries, remaining as enigmatic and haunting as a dimly remembered nightmare – and almost no closer to being understood today than the day it was first told.

If “God” is all-powerful, then why did He need to test Adam and Eve at all? Wouldn’t a real supreme being already know what was going to happen? Why did the serpent seem like the only one who really understood what was going on? And who was God talking to when he fretted that Adam had become “like one of us”1?

Observes libertarian “anti-psychiatrist” Thomas Szasz:

Adam’s apple is so named because a piece of the biblical forbidden fruit is supposed to have stuck in his throat… Perhaps this is why the Forbidden Truth so often appears ‘chewed up’, transformed into metaphor, humour, satire, slang (or dream and myth, of course).2

In this essay I’d like to take the unusual step of examining the Eden myth, not through the lens of traditional theology or atheist reductionism, but instead from the perspective of a few fringe phenomena it isn’t usually associated with: alien abductions and the occult “serpent power” of Eastern mysticism.

As we shall discover, these apparent discrepancies aren’t mistakes at all, but instead represent the sole surviving keys to uncovering its true meaning – for the legend of Adam and Eve originally had nothing to do with human sin or divine punishment.

Instead, the story of the “Garden Eden” comes to us as a distorted version of primitive man’s first recorded encounter with uncanny beings from the stars – a botched abduction attempt culminating in the spontaneous illumination of two very confused cavemen.

What this means for religion in general, and monotheism in particular, I shall leave for the reader to divine on their own.

We shall see that at which dogs howl in the dark, and that at which cats prick up their ears after midnight. We shall see these things, and other things which no breathing creature has yet seen. We shall overleap time, space, and dimensions, and without bodily motion peer to the bottom of creation.
– H.P. Lovecraft, From Beyond
UFOs – A Modern Problem?

Since the dawn of the space age, man’s dreams have been haunted by strange visions of cigar or saucer shaped aircraft bearing vaguely foetal (or insectoid) passengers who kidnap, brainwash and even impregnate their human captives before erasing their memories and vanishing into the ether.

Like “out of body” experiences or spirit possession, the UFO phenomenon stands as one of those baffling “psychic” anomalies which seems to exist for the sole purpose of mocking human reason. Claims one “victim”:

I woke up in the middle of the night and everything looked odd and strangely lit. At the end of my bed was a 4 feet high grey alien. Its spindly, thin body supported a huge head with two enormous, slanted, liquid black eyes. It compelled me, telepathically, to follow and led me into a spaceship… examination room [where]… I was forced to lie down while they… implanted something in my nose. I could see jars containing half-human, half-alien fetuses and a nursery full of silent, sickly children. When I eventually found myself back in bed, several hours had gone by.3

French astrophysicist Jacques Vallee studied the alien abduction phenomenon for decades, wondering continually at the arbitrary and illogical nature of most such reports. Why do these supposed “wise explorers from the stars” behave so bizarrely? If they have the advanced technology necessary for interstellar travel, why would they use it to visit this planet, let alone kidnap housewives, farmers and convenience store clerks for the purpose of anal probing? Observed Vallee’s mentor, J. Allen Hynek:

To me, it seems ridiculous that super intelligences would travel great distances to do relatively stupid things like stop cars, collect soil samples, and frighten people. I think we must begin to re-examine the evidence. We must begin to look closer to home.4
Vallee’s Rejection of the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis of Alien Contact

Researching hundreds of “contactee” testimonials, folkloric narratives and world mythologies, Vallee eventually concluded that UFOs aren’t what they seem to be. They don’t hail from the Zeta Reticula galaxy, they aren’t here to explore or conduct genetic experiments and their presence on this planet isn’t a recent development at all. Instead, notes Vallee:

Reports of uncanny visitors from the sky have plagued mankind for thousands of years – enough to rule out short-term exploration as a motive.

Witnesses typically describe the “aliens” as humanoid bipeds able to breathe our atmosphere and see in our light spectrum – but wouldn’t genuine extraterrestrials be adapted to a completely different type of environment?

The aliens’ supposedly “scientific” experiments are “crude to the point of being grotesque…. often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation [and] reminiscent of medieval encounters with demons” – not the sort of behaviour we might expect from an advanced civilisation!5

Finally, since UFOs seem able to appear and disappear at will, they are probably “not just a bunch of spacecraft” but instead represent “a much more interesting technology that manipulates dimensions. It manipulates space-time. And if it can do that, then [the aliens could] be from anywhere and anytime.”6

Frustrated with the unquestioned assumptions and cultish insularity of contemporary ufology, Vallee instead suggests three alternatives to the “Extraterrestrial Hypothesis” (EH) based on “second level” readings of the UFO phenomenon – speculative scenarios notable less for what they say about UFOs than about the structure of physical reality itself:
The Inter-Dimensional Hypothesis

One possibility is that aliens are not from another planet, but instead represent “evidence for other dimensions beyond spacetime”7 – extradimensional entities hailing from an uncanny world which overlaps but only occasionally intrudes upon our own, beings from the future (or a perhaps a ghostly copy of our own earth) using “four-dimensional wormholes for space and even time travel”8 through the “multiverse which is all around us.”9

This “multiverse” could consist of parallel worlds existing alongside each other in different dimensions of space, alternate past and future worlds following one another in time, or even computer-generated “virtual worlds” stored in some vast cosmic database (as in the film ‘The Matrix’); if this latter instance is true, hints Vallee, then the seemingly stable and predictable world in which we find ourselves could be a much more magical (or even whimsical) place than we normally realise:

If there is no time dimension as we usually assume there is, [then] the human brain may be traversing events by association… If we live in the associative universe of the software scientists rather than the sequential universe of the spacetime physicist, then miracles are no longer irrational events… [and the] illusion of time and space would be merely a side effect of consciousness as it traverses associations. In such a theory, apparently paranormal phenomena like remote viewing and precognition would be expected, even common, and UFOs would lose much of their bizarre quality…10
The Electromagnetic Connection

Another promising vein of inquiry originates with the work of Dr. Michael Persinger, a cognitive neuroscientist at Laurentian University in Canada whose 1975 “Tectonic Stress Theory” holds that UFOs, out-of-body experiences and mystical visions of saints and angels are the byproducts of electrical microseizures (i.e., epileptic episodes) resulting from exposure to electromagnetic fields generated by shifting plates in the Earth’s crust.

Persinger’s experiments include the construction of the “God helmet,” a specially modified motorcycle helmet which uses weak EM fields to stimulate the parietal and temporal lobes of the brain. Shockingly, almost 80% of the 900 subjects thus tested report altered states of consciousness, visions of God and dead loved ones, and even full-blown alien abductions.11

More radical still is Paul Devereux’s 1989 “Earth Lights” hypothesis, in which UFOs appear as some sort of “previously unrecognised terrestrial phenomenon” (think Will O’ the Wisps) which either rely upon or are attracted to the EM fields generated by seismic stress.

Devereux notes that the strange balls of light which appear and hover near or around earthquake fault lines behave at times almost like “inquisitive animals” and speculates that they may be intelligent “macro-quantal” blobs of plasma energy capable of telepathy, mimicry and hypnosis.12

Both theories in turn anticipate the research of Johnjoe McFadden, an English neuroscientist at the University of Surrey whose Conscious Electromagnetic Field Theory (CEMI) locates human thought outside the wet, grey labyrinth of the brain, identifying it instead with a weak electromagnetic field which surrounds and penetrates the skull.13

If McFadden is correct, then the entire sensory environment we perceive all around us could be nothing more than an extremely sophisticated communications broadcast of some sort – perhaps just one of many “channels” available to the human nervous system.
The Control System Hypothesis

Vallee’s final alternative to the EH is his “Control System” Hypothesis, a fringe view in which aliens (or UFOs) appear as a non-human intelligence closely linked to the Earth, but not bound by it – not little green men from far-flung planets but hallucinatory imps from a dreamlike hyperspace who always seem to appear in just about the form we expect to see them.

Once upon a time these interacted and appeared to us as gods, spirits and angels, accepting sacrifices, sending dreams and inspiring mankind’s great religions; then as fairies, goblins, elves and spirits, spreading fear and wonder in the lives of medieval peasants; and finally as space-faring “greys,” reptilian humanoids and noble “Plaeaidian” scientists, bearing cryptic warnings about the environment and seeding new mythologies for the Information age.

So why have these protean tricksters chosen to visit us? Perhaps Vallee’s most controversial claim is that these mysterious visitors are themselves mere epiphenomena, shadows and reflections of a vast (and very ancient) “control system” which has been operating in the background to manipulate human belief systems since time immemorial, guiding our species towards some unknown purpose. Notes Vallee:

If UFOs are having an action at [the level of myth] it will be almost impossible to detect it by conventional methods… because they are the means by which man’s concepts are being rearranged. All we can do is trace their effect…14

This “control system,” Vallee hypothesises, could represent a projection of the collective unconscious, the activity of an unknown species or even some sort of ecosystemic feedback loop.15
Vallee’s Control System and the Origins of Western Religion

If mankind’s long flirtation with gods, ghosts, goblins and grays is anything to go by, Vallee’s alien “control system” has been with us since the very beginning – and for evidence of its influence, we need look no further than the origins of Abrahamic monotheism.

Take, for example, the story of the Garden of Eden, an eerie tale which – with only a little imagination – can easily be read as a coded account of an alien abduction, an extraterrestrial interlude in which speaking primates are tested for obedience and adaptability:

Omniscient keeper(s) create a man (or remove him?) from the “earth”;

Test subject is anesthetised;

Keepers produce a female specimen supposedly cloned from his “rib”;

Test subjects are placed in a controlled environment and forbidden from eating a certain type of food;

A writhing hologram appears (the “shining serpent”) and encourages them to violate the Keepers’ directives;

Subjects are punished and returned to the wild to digest their encounter.

Now, is this all there is to the story – ancient astronauts tampering with primitive man? Admittedly, that would be incredible if true – but wouldn’t alien scientists have been able to conceal even the most elaborate breeding and colonisation program from a pair of cavemen?

What if the real agenda behind the Eden incident was not creation (or obedience testing) but something else entirely?

Remarks Vallee:

If the phenomenon is forcing us through a learning curve, then it has no choice but to mislead us. When Skinner designs a machine that feeds a rat only when the right lever is depressed, this is extremely misleading for the rat. But if the rat doesn’t depress the correct lever, he becomes extremely hungry. Man is hungry for knowledge and power, and if there is an intelligence behind the UFOs it must have taken this fact into account…16

Perhaps instead of looking at the biblical “Fall” as a failed experiment, we should instead think of it as what Vallee calls an “open control system” – a metalogical labyrinth whose participants “graduate” to the next level when the correct sequence of stimuli are triggered – in this case, eating the “forbidden fruit.”

In other words, “Adam” and “Eve” didn’t fail the test when they ate from the “Tree of Knowledge” – they passed it.
Open Control Systems and Mythological Mashups

This alternate reading of the Eden creation myth is reinforced in the scriptures of the ancient Gnostics, an unorthodox (some say “heretical”) movement in early Christianity that competed with the infant Catholic church for several centuries after the birth of Christ.

Often dismissed as a primitive heresy that fell under the weight of its own obscurantist tendencies, Gnosticism was instead a sophisticated system of occult hermeneutics whose acolytes employed special neurolinguistic trance-inducing techniques to engage in a sort of memetic sabotage, splicing, remixing and mutating of biblical stories in a manner seemingly calculated to cause maximum offense and psychological discomfort. But why? Notes one literary critic:

Drugs, sex, and power control the body, but “word and image locks” control the mind, that is, “lock” us into conventional patterns of perceiving, thinking, and speaking that determine our interactions with environment and society. The cutup is a way of exposing word and image controls and thus freeing oneself from them, an alteration of consciousness that occurs in both the writer and the reader of the text.17

For the Gnostics, the biblical creation stories weren’t divine revelations, but the shattered fragments of a monstrous and malevolent spell – the control system. By rearranging and retelling Judeo-Christian myths, the Gnostics sought clues that might allow them to reprogram creation itself, changing the past, seizing control of the heavens, and overthrowing the phony god of the Bible.
The Gnostic Version(s) of the Eden Myth

In the Gnostic view, Eden was not a paradise, but a jungle laboratory where an opportunistic race of alien parasites conducted a series of bizarre experiments in an attempt to produce a compliant strain of biped slaves.

Banished from the stars at the dawn of time, these “archons” (Greek for “rulers”) fled to the Earth where they abducted a caveman named “Adam” and sexually assaulted his mate “Eve,” implanting both with false (or screen) memories:

When they [the archons] saw Eve speaking with [Adam], they said to one another… “Come, let us seize her and let us cast our seed on her, so that… those whom she will beget will serve us. But let us not tell Adam that she is not derived from us, but let us bring a stupor upon him, and… teach him in his sleep as though she came into being from his rib…18

Feared and worshipped as “gods” and “angels,” the Archons depend for their very existence on the energy captured and siphoned from the human nervous system via various control systems – biological and memetic thermostats which allow them to regulate the flow of information and energy through words and images, pleasure and pain:

They say that the soul is the food of the Archons and Powers without which they cannot live, because she is of the dew from above and gives them strength…19

Adam and Eve “fell” when the archons programmed them with prohibitions and commandments, changing them from primates living in the eternal “now” to “soft machines” – biological automata at war with their own instincts, parasitised by selfish replicators and paralysed by double-binds:

….when the Rulers saw [Adam] and the woman who was with him, erring in ignorance… they rejoiced greatly… They came to Adam… [and] said to him, “Every tree which is in Paradise, whose fruit may be eaten, was created for you. But beware! Don’t eat from the Tree of Knowledge…” [T]hey gave them a great fright….20

Unfortunately for the archons, this strange prohibition seems to have provoked its own violation – for, as the Gnostic scriptures inform us:

[the archons] do not understand what they have said to [Adam]; rather… they said this in such a way that he might in fact eat…21

Pushed to the brink by a mysterious talking serpent, Adam and Eve partook of the fruit and convulsed with ecstasy as the walls of the Garden fell away to reveal the larger world outside the Garden. Like lab rats suddenly lifted out of a maze, Adam and Eve could now perceive their own situation clearly for the very first time:

Then their mind opened. For when they ate… they saw that they were naked, and they became enamoured of one another. When they saw their makers, they loathed them since they were beastly forms. They understood very much…22
Serpent Power Rising

A few more details complete this curious picture: Adam, we learn, was created with “seven souls”23; the “serpent” was actually a “hidden Mother” goddess named “Sophia” who fought against the archons from her secret location inside Adam’s “intestines”(!)24; and finally, when Eve fled from the archons, she took refuge inside the “Tree of Knowledge”25 (in biblical Hebrew, the word for “tree” can also mean “spine.”).

If any of this sounds familiar, it should – for as countless researchers have noted, the entire story seems to be nothing more than an allegorical description of the Kundalini serpent of Buddhist and Hindu yoga:

A Tantric yogi sees the great Mother present within his human body as the Kundalini. She lies hidden by her self-created ignorance, like a snake, coiled and fast asleep… at the bottom of the spinal cord. Through [meditation], the Tantric awakens the Mother and rouses her to go upward… [until he] becomes illumined…26
Theories about the Kundalini Serpent

Frequently misunderstood as an exotic oddity unique to Eastern mysticism, the kundalini instead represents a cross-cultural phenomenon of great antiquity (and plasticity) which (like the UFO phenomenon) has many features in common with OBEs, NDEs, spirit possession and shamanic initiation.

In short, the belief is that the human body possess seven (sometimes more) energy centres called “chakras,” roughly located near or in the anus, genitals, stomach, heart, throat, brow and crest of the skull. Normally clogged with the traumata of everyday life, these “chakras” open when stimulated by a serpentine energy which normally lies sleeping and coiled at the base of the spine.

In dreams, this serpent takes the form of a sleeping goddess who projects the illusion of the world; awakened, she climbs the spine to open the “third eye” at the crown of the head, bringing explosive emotional, psychological and spiritual growth, even ecstasy, enlightenment and the acquisition of occult powers.

Although the scientific study of the kundalini is still in its infancy, there do exist many plausible theories which might some day explain how it works. Here are a few of them:
Reichian/Bioenergetic

Wilhelm Reich was a renegade disciple of Freud’s who discovered a type of libidinal energy called orgone which flows throughout the “seven segments”27 of the body, resembling nothing so much in its “slow undulation[s]” as “the movement of an intestine or snake.”28

In most of us, social and cultural programming cause this elusive life force to become blocked in early childhood so that it pools up in the muscles and hardens into a rigid “body armour.” Thus diverted from life, the stagnant energy becomes a machine-like parody of itself which stunts and distorts human emotions, turning healthy expressions of love and sexuality into addiction, resentment and fear.

In the long term, the suffocating obstacles imposed by this invisible exoskeleton cause untold misery by exacerbating the mind/body split and creating the conditions necessary for the emergence of cancer (in individuals) and fascism (in societies).

Unimpressed with the slow pace and ineffectiveness of traditional talk therapy, Reich favoured a direct, hands-on approach designed to weaken the body armour itself. Over time, Reich and his followers found that unplanned events of great emotional intensity could trigger the orgone to ascend through the seven body segments spontaneously, purging vast reserves of repressed emotional energy and causing the body to vibrate uncontrollably as the noxious “body armour” crumbled once and for all.
Mechanical

Czech inventor Itzhak Bentov dedicated years to the study of human consciousness, eventually developing what is today known as the “holographic model” of the human brain.

In Bentov’s view, the “kundalini experience” is primarily a mechanical phenomenon which arises when the brain begins to vibrate in sympathetic resonance with the heartbeat (7.5 hz), releasing terrific amounts of stored musculoskeletal stress as the nervous system is temporarily transformed into a polarised loop.

This in turn causes the spinal column to oscillate like a tuning fork, allowing it to receive and transmit information directly from the ionosphere – the same part of the atmosphere responsible for bouncing electromagnetic waves back to Earth.29
The Pineal Gland and the Third Eye

Finally, former New Mexico University psychiatrist Rick Strassman hypothesises that kundalini yoga somehow stimulates the pineal gland to secrete larger than normal amounts of naturally-occurring DMT into the brain – making it the true “third eye.”30

DMT is a powerful hallucinogen, also found in ayahuasca, the “vine of souls” used by Amazonian shamans to induce mystical visions; the pineal gland, meanwhile, has its own surprising analog in the photosensitive “third eye” found in many species of reptiles, a vestigial organ with full lens and retina buried under the skin in the centre of the forehead.31

The connections to biblical myth here are many and obvious, so what does it all mean?

Seeking to understand the roots of human religious experience, Strassman injected over 60 volunteers with high doses of DMT, conducting over 400 such sessions from 1990-1995; perhaps unsurprisingly, just over half his test subjects reported blissful visions of timeless, cosmic unity, communion with benevolent deities and “classic near-death experiences” which included flying through tunnels of “radiant light.”32

The other 47% were not so lucky, reporting nightmarish beings drawn straight from the twilight horror-world of the Gnostic counter-Eden: menacing “clowns, elves [and] robots” who threatened and even attacked their human victims. Strassman finally ended his experiments ahead of schedule when one of his subjects reported being “eaten alive” by giant insects.
Dragons in the Darkness

Strassman’s findings here echo the eerie experiences of Michael Harner, an American anthropologist who penetrated the Amazon rainforest forty years earlier to experiment with the “vine of souls” potion himself.

Harner reported seeing “giant reptilian creatures” dwelling in and around his own brain stem, “dragon-like” beings from deep space who colonised the Earth millennia ago; chillingly, these dark beings claimed to have seeded the Earth with life for the sole purpose of creating various host species they could hide themselves in.

“I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside of all forms of life, including man,” claims Harner. “They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet, they told me. We humans were but [their] receptacles and servants…”33

True to form, when Harner demanded an explanation from the medicine man who gave him the potion responsible for this ominous vision, the old man just laughed and explained that, “…they’re always saying that. But they are only the Masters of Outer Darkness…”34
Conclusion

Clearly Harner is speaking here of beings very much like the archons of Gnostic myth or the manipulative “greys” of modern Ufology – but are these entities nothing more than symbolic projections of the reptilian brain, as Harner’s narrative seems to imply?

Do aliens and archons hail from outer space or inner space? Why is “contact” with aliens (or archons) so often accompanied by vibrations or tremors, either muscular or tectonic? How should we think about the “serpent” now that we know it is probably a dormant evolutionary mechanism of some sort? And are the “big three” Abrahamic religions of Islam, Judaism and Christianity really nothing more than hallucinatory control mechanisms employed by alien parasites to enslave and manipulate us?

German Historian Klaus Theweleit has written what would seem to be the last possible word on the subject, noting that:

…[T]he ‘fall of man’ depicts a failed revolution from the victor’s standpoint. For attempting to put into practice their slogan ‘Our bodies belong to us,’ the rebels were sentenced to a life of forced labor… ‘Your bodies belong to your Ruler!’ – that was the response. (The ‘paradise’ they were driven out of was the blissful state of being ruled without realising it. Even today, being driven out of ‘paradise’ is the penalty for trying to create a paradise.)35

Whether the Eden story is really about UFOs or the kundalini, and whether such phenomena are electromagnetic or chemical in origin, I can’t say for sure (I’ve never even seen a UFO!), but I do know this:

I have taken mushrooms and seen great, flying black mantas which pursued me across the desert floor, telepathically overwhelming me with thoughts of paranoia and despair. I’ve taken DMT and left my body to enter a crystalline world of euphoric decahedrons and four-dimensional pyramids, spread out beneath a great vaulted membrane which breathed, and knew at that instant that this membrane was the threshold between time and eternity.

I’ve practiced tantric yoga with a dakini and been bruised and battered as I hyperventilated under the tutelage of a Reichian therapist; and I’ve been in dark rooms lit only by flickering candles, watching friends and family members pant as their eyes rolled back in their heads and their limbs shook uncontrollably, “mounted” by the spirits of the dead and personified forces of nature known to witch doctors the world over.

Whatever the origins of these and related “psychic” phenomena ultimately prove to be – genetic memories, autonomous archetypal complexes, glitches in the Matrix or even the intrusive activities of extraterrestrial civilisations – nothing will change for our species until we finally rise to our feet, shake off the chains of superstition and ignorance and claim our inheritance – not as childlike “test subjects” to be ordered about and punished, but as adults striding forth into the cosmos with eyes wide open, ready to take responsibility for our own evolution.

The Eden myth, like all myths, is meant to be lived; not studied but experienced – so let us treat the Bible with its endless commandments and airless authoritarianism not as the final authority on human life, but as a leaping off point for the rediscovery of the human body as a sacred text in its own right, a flesh and blood book with its own sounds, smells and textures and even wisdom too – for in the end, it may be the only thing we can ever really know anyway.

Or, as the Gnostic scriptures put it:

You are the Tree of Knowledge, which is in Paradise, from which the first man ate and which opened his mind, so that he became enamoured of his co-likeness, and condemned other alien likenesses, and loathed them.36

Great post Sirius White. Reading your post, I realized as much things as listening to JLL's interview.

There is only one objection though. I wouldn't say defeating transhumanism is %100 necessary. I know everybody (especially New Agers) say human beings are capable of this, capable of that, limitless power etc. but in 3D reality this is NOT the case. We are stuck in our decaying bodies, in non-working social systems, artificial boundaries we call nations etc. etc. The system is prepared to crush living human beings indeed. A lot of people try only to survive - yet become aware of their true potentials.

So, transhumanism or thoughts like Kurzweil's singularity gives kind of hope, kind of motivation for some people. Maybe not for you, not for me but there are brilliant minds working in these areas. So dismissing all of these efforts as "Archon influence" is a bit unfair I think. JLL is a great modern thinker in my opinion and this kind of careless generalisation is not proper, I think.

Remember what is said; "All generalisations are wrong, including this one". :)

Hi, excellent post.

I am nothing new age :)

These abilities are already inherent in our DNA. I know some who are actually capable of it. Transhumanism is not bad in itself if it is inegrated properly. If you allow the elite of the world to employ transhumanism unto us then you would be nothing more than slaves to them.

Telepathy for example, is possible bio-electronically through natural methods. So is levitation. So is manifestation. Yes, even in this 3d word. It is VERY difficult though, and requires not just training but a "know-how" of how to do it. There is a science emerging which actually began with the hidden spaceprogram, the occult nazi search, and is today in the hidden factions of the intelligence agencies which is now beginning to emerge a bit into the public- that details the know how of how to achieve some of these things. You would be surprised.

Transhumanism as a means to ENHANCE our natural abilities, I would not mind. But you do have to take into account the quickening of consciousness and the "change" in our DNA as it is happening. I'm not talking about Pleadian New age channeling of how we will suddenly "Ascend to 5th dimension." I am talking about a gradual change in our general consciousness and the opening of certain latent factors in our biological template.

This includes things like putting your hands through watermellons, taking full body blows by huge objects with no to little damage, leaping from high altitudes and landing with little damage, among other things that the military has already learned. Why? because the mind, and the subconscious is incredibly powerful. Put a person into a dissociative state, and TRULY make them see that a 10 foot drop is actually a 1 foot drop, and the effects on the body diminish greatly.

Instead, this advanced science and technology should be used, to UNLOCK the latent powers within us. They have this already....machines that can teach a person eidedic memory, and train to absorb information almost lightning fast. Machines that can entrain brainwaves so a person can enter alpha, theta, and delta almost at command and easily. The "rediscovery" of the ancient mysteries and arcane secrets translated into modern scientific language, which gives a "hands-on" way of unlocking these things within our minds. Some of this is being "pushed" out into public, slowly and in an experimental factor because the factions in the DUMB's have been using this knowledge for the wrong reasons- and already have done what we coin "transhumanism."

Turning lead into gold...is not just symbolic phenomenon for the spirit. It is also a literal and fully accessible thing to certain initiates.

Only they do it for not just power, but power that is mind controlled. For what good is a person who is transhuman if they are just servants puppets of those who command them? Becoming robots is the worst thing imaginable.

So we have to uncover this science, and this ability to do trans-humanism in a way that is beneficial to our spiritual evolution...not one that enslaves it. One that frees us.

Lord Sidious

31st October 2011, 03:40

the movie the Adjustment Bureau is essentially about the archons. there is a scene where one of the bad guys turns good and helps matt damon. he tells him that they have trouble with spontaneous creative thought and that "water" blocks there ability to influence humanity. also, remember in the lord of the rings the nazgul try to attack liv tylers elf character but once she crosses the river they are held at bay.

Put on your thinking cap ladies and gentlemen, because "water" is the key that will keep humanity from turning into zombies and become slaves of these archons

I would agree, water is indeed the ''cure'' to most of the ills we have on our world.
I see that you know what that is, as do others here.

The entities John talks about Drakonians are very similar to what Islam confirms as Djin. Leo Zagami also talks about the same entities, which is why he allegedly converted to Islam.
In Islamic teachings, the Djin were created from a gaseous matter blue fire and populated Earth long before Man was first made. But due to their mischief the god decided to create something different from solid matter mud and gave Earth to Man. But the Djin still live in their own civilization on the same Earth but on a different dimension. They envy Man who was chosen by the god as a favorite slave, so they try to whisper thoughts of malice and unwholesome deeds to Man, in the hope to see him fail in the eyes of the god, since misery likes company.
In my opinion this is too simplistic, I think it's more than just millions of years of unending jealousy, It's the old anthropocentric conceit.

And this is the root of the story of the ''genie'' in the bottle.

apokalypse

31st October 2011, 12:28

i'm listen to John Lash - Red Ice Interview 10-02-11 right now have to say what he said about these beings manipulate our genes and DNA make perfect sense...i still don't know why there's people said one of them created us...

Bo Atkinson

31st October 2011, 17:44

Thanks, Jorr for sharing this interview. I almost always play interviews and even books in background. (From pdf to mp3 player converted is the most portable way). Lash reminds us: We might all need to promote the idea that fear mongering is a foil to derail humanity in the 11th hour.

Slightly relavant is a free book from holybooks.com... Some of the earliest gnostic writings are now in free pdf form"
http://www.holybooks.com/gnosis-i-iii-by-boris-mouravieff/ I wish Lash's book was sold in pdf form.

I'll try to read th'other posts here, at some point. The general subject deserves a big chart full of related links.

jorr lundstrom

10th December 2011, 16:44

Here is an interview on the archons from 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-CJAwqf1_g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIH5okMdLU&feature=related&noredirect=1

jorr lundstrom

11th December 2011, 00:46

Here is a new one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcbWhGrVwJc

Cottage Rose

11th December 2011, 01:25

Thank you for all these links, Jorr.

I have heard the information of Lash and so many others on this subject. Then, I found myself in a state of confusion, after a while, when the next expert came along with an interesting, but conflicting, perspective.

I finally decided it would be more advantageous for me to work on developing a clean intuitive perspective/functioning, devoid of any preconceived ideas, when/if the time comes to discern the nature of extra-terrestrials.

This could just be a phase I am going through. But, I thought I would mention it.

modwiz

11th December 2011, 01:29

John Lash is one of the few speakers who informs me and brings me new mind opening useful information. I actually can't think of another at this moment.:doh: LOL

Thanks for the mind candy, Jorr.

Update:

Not one of my favorites owing to the certain particulars of the interviewers. Nice people though. John Lash is always a pleasure to listen to, for me.

Cottage Rose

11th December 2011, 01:53

Thank you Modwiz. I value your opinion. It was something about turning the discussion to Israel that troubled me. Please comment.

Angushar

11th December 2011, 01:54

Wow, that's crazy..

jorr lundstrom

11th December 2011, 02:17

Wow, that's crazy..

Yeah, isnt it?

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/babaji7.jpg

Cottage Rose

11th December 2011, 02:27

If you are referring to me being crazy, please help, explain, and don't criticize.
I have been very distracted lately and it has been difficult to concentrate well.

jorr lundstrom

11th December 2011, 02:44

If you are referring to me being crazy, please help, explain, and don't criticize.
I have been very distracted lately and it has been difficult to concentrate well.

Rose, Im just supporting Angushar right to think thats crazy. Wot he is referring to I

have no idea about. I found the saying quite confusing myself but thought, wot the heck

of course he has the right to an opinion even if we dont get wot he is talking about. He

might see something we dont, I dunno. LOL

So relax, Rosie.

modwiz

11th December 2011, 02:51

Cottage Rose

11th December 2011, 03:22

Thank you Modwiz. I value your opinion. It was something about turning the discussion to Israel that troubled me. Please comment.

I tried to PM you, no room. I still haven't listened yet either. I am starting, now. After that I will try to PM you again.

I was popping some popcorn, Mod. Realized I haven't eaten anything today. I will delete some inbox messages soon. Thanks for letting me know.

doodah

11th December 2011, 03:46

jorr lundstrom

11th December 2011, 04:29

Lucky guy. Ive never needed an enemy. Yet people have tried to kill me several times

in my life. And they didnt even ask me if I needed an enemy. I envy you your genes.

modwiz

11th December 2011, 05:04

I just want to throw this into the mix: Maybe I am of some weird genetic heritage, but I do not see the need for an enemy. Some would say I'm not enlightened enough to be able to thank those people who are acting in the "enemy" role, those who are trying to destroy this planet. But I would say that sounds like BS to me.

Because of my weird genetics, it works this way: If there is no enemy or blockage or wall or restraint in your path, then you have unlimited creativity. You have a clear path. If there is no war, you have the peace in which to be creative. I realize that some people say that peace is "boring," and I always wonder what mix of hormones they're running on that they would say that.

Some people point out that it is in wartime that great inventions come about because the war machine kicks into high gear and the money, the space, and the programs become available that allow people to be inventive, so creative people get real creative developing new ways to bring about pain and death. I call that negative creativity, the end result of which is always the same: Death.

Positive creativity, however, is limitless and speaks to Life. There is no end to it, it goes on forever. Maybe this is why the Archons have such trouble with spontaneous creativity and why they keep us warring with each other. Peace and positive creativity is the path to godhood. They really don't want us to get there, so I'm thinking it is they who have seeded the concept of the needed enemy for which we are supposed to be thankful - which sounds so much like BS to me.

Just as a virus or misplaced (pathogen) bacterium are not our enemies and the lion is not the enemy of the gazelle, the Archons are a problem of energetic and species hygiene. They are an energetic parasite. As the herpes virus creates blisters for its needed moist environment, the Archons do their best to infect humanity and show success with the psychopaths in our midst. These psychopaths, like the herpes virus, generate an environment, (fear and loathing) that then generates the negative emotional vibrations (loosh) that they feed on.

We do not have an enemy problem, we have a sanitation problem. Surgeons rejected the theory of contamination for a good while going from one surgery patient to another without washing their hands. People drank filthy water without realizing it caused diseases. It was awareness, not war that ended, or mitigated these problems of hygiene. The Archons, and our lack of awareness of them is all about sanitation. Quarantines for some members of what used to be humans will be required. At a minimum.

doodah

11th December 2011, 05:13

Sorry to hear that Jorr! Looks like you survived it. I don't know, if a madman wants to kill you he doesn't ask you if you want to be killed. So I guess you have to look at the "nothing's coincidental" nature of events?

Like, tell me again, WHY are they trying to start WWIII? I can't seem to hold their answers in my mind, it's kind of slippery, but I keep hearing that they're really TRYING to make it happen. A WWIII doesn't make any sense to me, like enemies don't make any sense, so maybe it's just this genetic quirk I have. All of this is starting to sound like the Archons doing their same old/same old thing, poor guys. They need some serious interdimensional therapy.

Oh, okay, Modwiz. Thanks for that info. Forget therapy, quarantine definitely sounds right.

onawah

11th December 2011, 05:56

From my reading and intuitive takes on what I've read and where I have filled in the blanks on my own, it appears to me that the Annunaki, who came to Earth and genetically altered the indigenous species that was here already (which was no doubt already a mix of other ET races itself), to create a race of slaves, later chose some strains of the race of slaves that they produced to make an upper class of elite slaves, some of them given the role of Priests, who took over for the Annunaki some of the more onerous tasks of the Annunaki controllers.

My feeling is that the chosen strain that became the class of Priest was already exceptionally high in ET/humanoid DNA -- of primarily Pleiadian, and/or Andromedan, Arcturian and Sirian stock, and perhaps some others too-- and so they no doubt in some way stood out from the rest, making them attractive and of particular interest to the Annunaki, who actually then sought to interbreed with the hybrids to gain their inherent gifts, but with little success.

But the hybrids themselves were prolific. Some of them became the ancestors of the clan of Abraham, and began to realize they were not really creations of the Annunaki "Gods" but were cosmic, multidimensional beings in their own right.

So they became rebels and fought the tyrannical faction of the Annunaki, at first with the help of the benevolent faction of the Annunaki, although eventually, the rebel race began to claim their sovereignty even from the more benevolent Annunaki.

There was also a strain of the indigenous race whose DNA was eventually enhanced by the Annunaki, but who remained loyal to the Annunaki tyrants. Perhaps they were specifically engineered to be obedient, or they had less of the other, stronger strains of ET DNA. They became the ancestors of the Illuminati. What DNA of other ET races they might have had in the beginning is not clear to me, but whatever it was, it was overpowered by the Annunaki DNA.

The children of Abraham strove to keep their bloodline pure and uncontaminated from further dilution of Annunaki genes.
The Illuminati tried and succeeded in part in infiltrating and corrupting the bloodlines of Abraham/David/Yeshua, until eventually the latter's progeny more or less gave up on preserving the bloodline, realizing instead over the centuries that they had the power to alter their genes through spiritual practice, pure living, etc., regardless of what bloodline they reincarnated into, and so the bloodline was no longer such a primary way of preserving their identity and integrity.
The Illuminati continued to prize their bloodline, and continued trying to interbreed with the Abrahamic line as often as they could, but succeeded only in becoming weaker and more inbred.

The Abrahamic line began seeking more to interbreed with other non-Illuminati humans and to enhance and strengthen the DNA of Earth's human race in general, and to grow a more united community of humankind, in service to Gaia and Sophia, recognizing that the power of the Divine Feminine would grow as the Shift to the new Golden Age grew closer, and the balance of the Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine would ensue.

As more Pleiadian/Andromedan/Arcturian/Sirian ally souls incarnate into human Earth bodies now, lending their strength and bringing the light of their spirituality to the struggle to bring the Shift to fruition as it was intended, the power of the Annunaki and their minions will continue to decline.

As Lash said in the interview, the Archons could not subsume the abilities of the humanoid races of Earth, so they instead tried to mix with them and get them (us) to become like them. And to some extent, they succeeded, but the final outcome will be that they further enriched the whole DNA pool, so that the best of their reptilian characteristics and abilities are evolving through the humanoid races, as well as the Pleiadian/Andromedan/Arctuiran/Sirian characteristics and abilities are. The reptilian urge to dominate and control will fade and be replaced with the understanding that real evolution, which the Reptilians actually crave, as do all living things, will come with co-operation, not competition.

The struggle continues on all levels, but evolution will always prevail, and the reptilian brain will eventually find it's place in the overall scheme of things which is not to rule, but to simply contribute the best of what Creation has gifted it with, with the dross being purified through the evolutionary process.

Star Tsar

11th December 2011, 08:10

Lots of good info in first interview thanks Jorr!

percival tyro

17th December 2011, 16:55

Is John lash telling us that if we don't get it right first time,then we 're doomed. If our god promised to stand by us in our future evolution then that's good enough for me. Always keep your door open. Someone, someday may need to head towards that chink of light. Nature is not a downward spiral to damnation. It's usually two steps forward and one step back. The one step back is often humanity trying to run before it can walk. It's still progress.

applepie

17th December 2011, 20:57

To Sirius White:

Thank you for your post. Could you possibly provide some specifics on how you got rid of embedded thought forms? What did you do to open your third eye? I would be very grateful.

applepie

Kristin

17th December 2011, 22:32

Here's the text itself. Please read.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

The Nag Hammadi Library

The Hypostasis of the Archons
(The Reality of the Rulers)

Translated by Bentley Layton

On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle - referring to the "authorities of the darkness" - told us that "our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.

Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, "god of the blind."

His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power - that is, the blasphemy he had spoken - he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power - after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the visible world was invented.

As incorruptibility looked down into the region of the waters, her image appeared in the waters; and the authorities of the darkness became enamored of her. But they could not lay hold of that image, which had appeared to them in the waters, because of their weakness - since beings that merely possess a soul cannot lay hold of those that possess a spirit - for they were from below, while it was from above. This is the reason why "incorruptibility looked down into the region (etc.)": so that, by the father's will, she might bring the entirety into union with the light.

The rulers laid plans and said, "Come, let us create a man that will be soil from the earth." They modeled their creature as one wholly of the earth. Now the rulers [...] body [...] they have [...] female [...] is [...] with the face of a beast. They had taken some soil from the earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had appeared to them in the waters. They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled" - not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness. And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.

Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards, the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a living soul. It called his name Adam, since he was found moving upon the ground. A voice came forth from incorruptibility for the assistance of Adam; and the rulers gathered together all the animals of the earth and all the birds of heaven and brought them in to Adam to see what Adam would call them, that he might give a name to each of the birds and all the beasts.

They took Adam and put him the garden, that he might cultivate it and keep watch over it. And the rulers issued a command to him, saying, "From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat, nor touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die."

They [...] this. They do not understand what they have said to him; rather, by the father's will, they said this in such a way that he might (in fact) eat, and that Adam might <not> regard them as would a man of an exclusively material nature.

The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam." And he slept. - Now the deep sleep that they "caused to fall upon him, and he slept" is Ignorance. - They opened his side like a living woman. And they built up his side with some flesh in place of her, and Adam came to be endowed only with soul.

And the spirit-endowed woman came to him and spoke with him, saying, "Arise, Adam." And when he saw her, he said, "It is you who have given me life; you will be called 'mother of the living'. - For it is she who is my mother. It is she who is the physician, and the woman, and she who has given birth."

Then the authorities came up to their Adam. And when they saw his female counterpart speaking with him, they became agitated with great agitation; and they became enamored of her. They said to one another, "Come, let us sow our seed in her," and they pursued her. And she laughed at them for their witlessness and their blindness; and in their clutches she became a tree, and left before them her shadowy reflection resembling herself; and they defiled it foully. - And they defiled the stamp of her voice, so that by the form they had modeled, together with their (own) image, they made themselves liable to condemnation.

Then the female spiritual principle came in the snake, the instructor; and it taught them, saying, "What did he say to you? Was it, 'From every tree in the garden shall you eat; yet - from the tree of recognizing good and evil do not eat'?"
The carnal woman said, "Not only did he say 'Do not eat', but even 'Do not touch it; for the day you eat from it, with death you are going to die.'"
And the snake, the instructor, said, "With death you shall not die; for it was out of jealousy that he said this to you. Rather your eyes shall open and you shall come to be like gods, recognizing evil and good." And the female instructing principle was taken away from the snake, and she left it behind, merely a thing of the earth.
And the carnal woman took from the tree and ate; and she gave to her husband as well as herself; and these beings that possessed only a soul, ate. And their imperfection became apparent in their lack of knowledge; and they recognized that they were naked of the spiritual element, and took fig leaves and bound them upon their loins.

Then the chief ruler came; and he said, "Adam! Where are you?" - for he did not understand what had happened. And Adam said, "I heard your voice and was afraid because I was naked; and I hid."
The ruler said, "Why did you hide, unless it is because you have eaten from the tree from which alone I commanded you not to eat? And you have eaten!"
Adam said, "The woman that you gave me, she gave to me and I ate." And the arrogant ruler cursed the woman.
The woman said, "It was the snake that led me astray and I ate." They turned to the snake and cursed its shadowy reflection, [...] powerless, not comprehending that it was a form they themselves had modeled. From that day, the snake came to be under the curse of the authorities; until the all-powerful man was to come, that curse fell upon the snake.

They turned to their Adam and took him and expelled him from the garden along with his wife; for they have no blessing, since they too are beneath the curse. Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.

Now afterwards, she bore Cain, their son; and Cain cultivated the land. Thereupon he knew his wife; again becoming pregnant, she bore Abel; and Abel was a herdsman of sheep. Now Cain brought in from the crops of his field, but Abel brought in an offering (from) among his lambs. God looked upon the votive offerings of Abel; but he did not accept the votive offerings of Cain. And carnal Cain pursued Abel, his brother.

And God said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?"
He answered saying, "Am I, then, my brother's keeper?"
God said to Cain, "Listen! The voice of your brother's blood is crying up to me! You have sinned with your mouth. It will return to you: anyone who kills Cain will let loose seven vengeances, and you will exist groaning and trembling upon the earth."

And Adam knew his female counterpart Eve, and she became pregnant, and bore Seth to Adam. And she said, "I have borne another man through God, in place of Abel." Again Eve became pregnant, and she bore Norea. And she said, "He has begotten on me a virgin as an assistance for many generations of mankind." She is the virgin whom the forces did not defile.

Then mankind began to multiply and improve. The rulers took counsel with one another and said, "Come, let us cause a deluge with our hands and obliterate all flesh, from man to beast." But when the ruler of the forces came to know of their decision, he said to Noah, "Make yourself an ark from some wood that does not rot and hide in it - you and your children and the beasts and the birds of heaven from small to large - and set it upon Mount Sir."

Then Orea came to him, wanting to board the ark. And when he would not let her, she blew upon the ark and caused it to be consumed by fire. Again he made the ark, for a second time.

The rulers went to meet her, intending to lead her astray. Their supreme chief said to her, "Your mother Eve came to us." But Norea turned to them and said to them, "It is you who are the rulers of the darkness; you are accursed. And you did not know my mother; instead it was your female counterpart that you knew. For I am not your descendant; rather it is from the world above that I am come."

The arrogant ruler turned, with all his might, and his countenance came to be like (a) black [...]; he said to her presumptuously, "You must render service to us, as did also your mother Eve; for I have been given [...]." But Norea turned, with the might of [...]; and in a loud voice, she cried out up to the holy one, the God of the entirety, "Rescue me from the rulers of unrighteousness and save me from their clutches - forthwith!"

The <great> angel came down from the heavens and said to her, "Why are you crying up to God? Why do you act so boldly towards the holy spirit?"
Norea said, "Who are you?" The rulers of unrighteousness had withdrawn from her.
He said, "It is I who am Eleleth, sagacity, the great angel who stands in the presence of the holy spirit. I have been sent to speak with you and save you from the grasp of the lawless. And I shall teach you about your root."

(Norea apparently now speaking) Now as for that angel, I cannot speak of his power: his appearance is like fine gold and his raiment is like snow. No, truly, my mouth cannot bear to speak of his power and the appearance of his face!

Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding. I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit. Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of chaos and to their universe."

But I said, "Sir, teach me about the faculty of these authorities - how did they come into being, and by what kind of genesis, and of what material, and who created them and their force?"

And the great angel Eleleth, understanding, spoke to me: "Within limitless realms dwells incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without her consort; and her product was a celestial thing. A veil exists between the world above and the realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that shadow became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created became a product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, as I have already said, because it was from matter that it derived.

Opening his eyes, he saw a vast quantity of matter without limit; and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And a voice came forth from above the realm of absolute power, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, 'god of the blind'.

And he said, "If any other thing exists before me, let it become visible to me!" And immediately Sophia stretched forth her finger and introduced light into matter; and she pursued it down to the region of chaos. And she returned up to her light; once again darkness [...] matter.

This ruler, by being androgynous, made himself a vast realm, an extent without limit. And he contemplated creating offspring for himself, and created for himself seven offspring, androgynous just like their parent. And he said to his offspring, "It is I who am god of the entirety."

And Zoe (Life), the daughter of Pistis Sophia, cried out and said to him, "You are mistaken, Sakla!" - for which the alternative name is Yaltabaoth. She breathed into his face, and her breath became a fiery angel for her; and that angel bound Yaldabaoth and cast him down into Tartaros below the abyss.

Now when his offspring Sabaoth saw the force of that angel, he repented and condemned his father and his mother, matter. He loathed her, but he sang songs of praise up to Sophia and her daughter Zoe. And Sophia and Zoe caught him up and gave him charge of the seventh heaven, below the veil between above and below. And he is called 'God of the forces, Sabaoth', since he is up above the forces of chaos, for Sophia established him.

Now when these (events) had come to pass, he made himself a huge four-faced chariot of cherubim, and infinitely many angels to act as ministers, and also harps and lyres. And Sophia took her daughter Zoe and had her sit upon his right to teach him about the things that exist in the eighth (heaven); and the angel of wrath she placed upon his left. Since that day, his right has been called 'life'; and the left has come to represent the unrighteousness of the realm of absolute power above. It was before your time that they came into being.

Now when Yaldabaoth saw him (Sabaoth) in this great splendor and at this height, he envied him; and the envy became an androgynous product, and this was the origin of envy. And envy engendered death; and death engendered his offspring and gave each of them charge of its heaven; and all the heavens of chaos became full of their multitudes. But it was by the will of the father of the entirety that they all came into being - after the pattern of all the things above - so that the sum of chaos might be attained.

"There, I have taught you about the pattern of the rulers; and the matter in which it was expressed; and their parent; and their universe."

But I said, "Sir, am I also from their matter?"
"You, together with your offspring, are from the primeval father; from above, out of the imperishable light, their souls are come. Thus the authorities cannot approach them, because of the spirit of truth present within them; and all who have become acquainted with this way exist deathless in the midst of dying mankind. Still, that sown element will not become known now. Instead, after three generations it will come to be known, and it has freed them from the bondage of the authorities' error."

Then I said, "Sir, how much longer?"
He said to me, "Until the moment when the true man, within a modeled form, reveals the existence of the spirit of truth, which the father has sent.
Then he will teach them about everything, and he will anoint them with the unction of life eternal, given him from the undominated generation.
Then they will be freed of blind thought, and they will trample underfoot death, which is of the authorities, and they will ascend into the limitless light where this sown element belongs.
Then the authorities will relinquish their ages, and their angels will weep over their destruction, and their demons will lament their death.
Then all the children of the light will be truly acquainted with the truth and their root, and the father of the entirety and the holy spirit. They will all say with a single voice, 'The father's truth is just, and the son presides over the entirety", and from everyone unto the ages of ages, "Holy - holy - holy! Amen!'"

The Reality
of the Rulers

Selection made from James M. Robinson, ed., The Nag Hammadi Library, revised edition. HarperCollins, San Francisco, 1990.

minkton

8th April 2012, 18:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxS07wTx48&feature=player_embedded

This video is private.:(

Googled it, cant find it..

jorr lundstrom

8th April 2012, 18:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onxS07wTx48&feature=player_embedded

This video is private.:(

Googled it, cant find it..

Minkton, I found another one, the same interview and one shorter
and put them in the OP. LOL

All is well

Jorr 2.0