Anger and emotions.....

[THIRDEYE]

lately ive been expierencing alot of emotional distress,anger frustration.....i dont know if its the planetary alignment or the energies beeing kicked up.....i can not tolerate poeple who are not on the path of light...its all most i have to wipe my slate to bring in the new....these emotions started last week....i guess i have to let the poeple go who are not enlightened and caught up in the matrix....let go is my new agenda...and its hard to let go cause i love some of these poeple very much....im powerless over people but im not powerless over my choices...letting go is hard and an emotional thing to do.....its like im being cleansed my baggage has to go too...just venting light love and abundance ....thirdeye...

[Star1111]

lately ive been expierencing alot of emotional distress,anger frustration.....i dont know if its the planetary alignment or the energies beeing kicked up.....i can not tolerate poeple who are not on the path of light...its all most i have to wipe my slate to bring in the new....these emotions started last week....i guess i have to let the poeple go who are not enlightened and caught up in the matrix....let go is my new agenda...and its hard to let go cause i love some of these poeple very much....im powerless over people but im not powerless over my choices...letting go is hard and an emotional thing to do.....its like im being cleansed my baggage has to go too...just venting light love and abundance ....thirdeye...

Dear Third eye - I would expect you are not alone at all in this.
As I often say, you can LOVE someone, but sometimes for the good of them and yourself you have to 'let them go'.
I think becoming more awakend precipitates a need to refresh and clear whatever 'baggage' is in your life
I have been 'letting people go' for a while now. I still LOVE them but for whatever reasons need to move away from them. It might not be forever but it is for now.
Becoming awakened I have realised does tend to increase the sensitivities and for me personally I do find I can become quite tired more easily............ and I have a lot of energy!
Anger, frustration I think you will find is all part of the process, all very natural and to be expected.
We have a choice.............. we can 'let them go' or we can try to assist THEM in awakening, really depends on YOU and the other person and the time you want to invest in doing that......... or not.
But we must LOVE, LOVE always LOVE.

[THIRDEYE]

ty star....light love and abundance ...thirdeye

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Most people think of anger as a bad thing. It is neither good nor bad, though it is often uncomfortable and hard to control. Anger is powerful and can be very motivational, but like a blowtorch, you have to be caredul where you point it. I would suggest that rather than try to let go of these emotions, you process them through your nervous system completely, making sure they do not get stuck. Allow emotion to move through you like a wave without resistence.

It also sounds like you might be overly invested in whether or not others see the world the way you do. Ask yourself if you are unconsciously seeking validation from those who "are not enlightened". You used the matrix analogy. Ask yourself whether or not Neo or Morpheus would really care what those trapped in the matrix thought about the matrix or themselves.. To do so would be to still be entrapped in the matrix yourself.

Hope that helps.

[Davidallany]

lately ive been expierencing alot of emotional distress,anger frustration.....i dont know if its the planetary alignment or the energies beeing kicked up
Could it be the Moon emitting some sort of waves that's affecting our emotional states? In the movie Space Odyssey 2001 the monolith emits vibrational waves that influence pro-people, and later on, people's behavior. What if the Moon does a similar thing when it's full?

You're right, this is the same reason why holy men used to go into isolation on top of mountains or live in caves located in mountains. Muhammad did that, he spent most of his time away from the masses, he was either tending his sheep, staring into nothingness towards the sky or in his favorite cave meditating and reflecting.

Fast results requires isolation, quietness and avoiding contamination from thicker energies. When I first came to Avalon, I sensed different energies through word, it was very confusing because everybody was talking about being awake, but some words didn't reflect awakening at all. I then found out that some good people confused spiritual awakening with intellectual awakening. To this day some people still confuse the two, those are of the second type (for a lack of a better description). Intellectual awakening also includes religious awakening.

I am glad to see that the whole world is thinking things over, in a friendly and open dialogs. If the world decides to fall asleep I won't let it. Because I am everyone and everyone is us, not in body or mind, but in essence, everyone has a saying.

[Tony]

lately ive been expierencing alot of emotional distress,anger frustration.....i dont know if its the planetary alignment or the energies beeing kicked up.....i can not tolerate poeple who are not on the path of light...its all most i have to wipe my slate to bring in the new....these emotions started last week....i guess i have to let the poeple go who are not enlightened and caught up in the matrix....let go is my new agenda...and its hard to let go cause i love some of these poeple very much....im powerless over people but im not powerless over my choices...letting go is hard and an emotional thing to do.....its like im being cleansed my baggage has to go too...just venting light love and abundance ....thirdeye...

This must be an aspect of waking up .. an inner conflict, dissatisfaction.....:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Mark]

great vent ... i think if 'letting go' is the same as 'working through' and you are able to get to the root of the karmic attachments, recognizing what is yours and what is not, examining and processing the fear you hold that must underlie and strengthen the anger, then you are well on the way to achieving something very significant in your own personal evolutionary process. my best wishes to you along the Path ...

[Davidallany]

recognizing what is yours and what is not, examining and processing the fear
Good afternoon Sir, nice day today, mild, cloudy but not cold.
I think your statement is very, very important, many people associate with mind and thoughts, when those thoughts are not good, the people will try to ignore, block or resist them, because they confuse the thoughts as self, thus thinking that they have done bad and try to ignore those thoughts instead of processing them and letting them go. the first step is acceptance rather than blocking and ignoring, the mind will always attract different thoughts, like fire attracts different insects.

[Nairnia]

i can not tolerate poeple who are not on the path of light...
i guess i have to let the poeple go who are not enlightened and caught up in the matrix


I understand your frustration, it comes to us all. But can you be on the path of Light yet sit in judgment of others whom you love? Everyone has their difficulties, their problems, don't give up on them, spread the Light :)

[Mark]

recognizing what is yours and what is not, examining and processing the fear
Good afternoon Sir, nice day today, mild, cloudy but not cold.
I think your statement is very, very important, many people associate with mind and thoughts, when those thoughts are not good, the people will try to ignore, block or resist them, because they confuse the thoughts as self, thus thinking that they have done bad and try to ignore those thoughts instead of processing them and letting them go. the first step is acceptance rather than blocking and ignoring, the mind will always attract different thoughts, like fire attracts different insects.

Very well said, Sir. In addition to your very accurate statements, people often try to make us responsible for their emotional states and lives as well, when we are not. That is like me making a choice to jump off a cliff and leaving a letter saying it was your fault! It may be true that we argued previously, but I did not make your decision for you!

Processing the understanding of responsibility and free will is a deep and abiding lesson, I believe ... and very difficult, especially these days when our true selves are so hidden beneath so much that is not truly of us, as you point out. You have to get past the commercials and global programming sometimes to get to the actual show.

[Lifebringer]

I feel you. I had a rough and bumpy last week, with someone elses drama and denial. Finallyy had to sit them down and at times phychicly connect and talk to their subconscious to make the changes needed in them to move away from the darkness surrounding their life. They were vengeful angry and aggressive, and tha's not being judgemental, jhust an observance. I saw the pain and recognized it for what it was, the grief and loss of her pets. She irresponsibly left them in the home where she had just had an inspection for moving. They (pit) tore up the house, crapped the carpet and the landlord stated they had to be put in the van and not back in the home during the overnight, until the new tenants moved in. She left the gas container in the back and one or both chewed or inhaled the feums, and died. We tried to rescussitate, but the poison was in them. They may have been poisnoned by someone who was bit the day before when they were put out for a run in the yard. Either way, she wanted to blame someone other than herself, when the dogs knew no one well enough in the family, to be cared for, without fear.

I stayed away from visits as they didn't like you to stop petting them and sat in your lap whether you wanted them to or not.

Strange dogs had picked up her aggressive bipolar behavior and really were a handful. For two weeks she sweated my brow, with go and check this, and go and check that, then when they died, although I sypathized with her grief, everyone in the neighborhood, who had had run ins with them, was glad they were gone, even the cashier at the store who saw them after a child. Karma, I think was in this as they killed quite a few neighbors pets also. With the dogs in the van with the windows partially opened, anyone could have done them in. One day when I transition, I'm just curious enough to go back in time a day before and watch to see what acturally happened.

She really put me in negativille for quite some time and after she finally moved, I got a well needed nights sleep. I simply didn't want to tell her, "Look, it's your fault, they are your dogs, and if you cared for them, you would have left them some food. I am sick of hearing about these dogs and the doctor says for you to give it a rest, before you end up in the hospital for a stroke."

Don't feel alone, there are plenty still waking up, and yes, the negativity and frustration can be ....tiring.

[Sidney]

For me, this happens to b e the first full moon that has not affected me emotionally. But normally I get very snappy and intolerant. Lately though, my husband and I have both had this very discussion regarding intolerance of the un-enlightened. I wonder if we are entering a different part of the solar system that is having effects on us. In short, you are not alone, I believe lots of folks are dealing with similar emotions.
I also agree that anger is not necessarily a bad thing, but unfortunately (speaking for myself) sometimes my anger and frustration causes me to take it out on the wrong people. (especially during solar flared and the like).

[pilotsimone]

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[Whiskey_Mystic]

I cannot tell you how helpful these words are today, WM. In fact, your words have shown up a few different times when I needed some clarity. I've felt so desperate to be understood by my family and friends...when I know it's not fair or logical to expect it.

My sincerest thanks you are here on PA shining your light. :)

Hello Pilotsimone,

I'm glad that you have found my posts useful. I have found that if I can manage to get my ego out of the way, the right words will come that someone needs. In this case, I struggle with this issue myself. I feel like an alien tourist here most of the time. I think that's true for a lot of us.

Best Regards.

[Guest]

Last Sunday I was thoroughly angry -I felt it through my whole being. I went with it and didn't put a face on it. This energy went through everyone of my energy centers and then it moved out.

Also, I live in a household that has 3 TVs going none stop with all the main stream shows and info....etc.... am I going to change them anytime soon or agree to my view points? probably not. I love them very much. And I live outside a lot....

Nora

we are all related

[JoshuaM]

lately ive been expierencing alot of emotional distress,anger frustration.....i dont know if its the planetary alignment or the energies beeing kicked up.....i can not tolerate poeple who are not on the path of light...its all most i have to wipe my slate to bring in the new....these emotions started last week....i guess i have to let the poeple go who are not enlightened and caught up in the matrix....let go is my new agenda...and its hard to let go cause i love some of these poeple very much....im powerless over people but im not powerless over my choices...letting go is hard and an emotional thing to do.....its like im being cleansed my baggage has to go too...just venting light love and abundance ....thirdeye...
Hello THIRDEYE, your not alone. It actually makes me feel better that I'm not alone in this as well. Within the last week I have been feeling very depressed and anxious, which is not me at all. Then I noticed I was needing extra sleep and naps. Anyway, I hope these emotions of yours serve their purpose and give way to complete BLISS.
Joshua

[toothpick]

Hi Thirdeye.
Can relate to your situation.
I,m 56 yrs old and all my old friends are gone, one at a time, just mention spiritual and poof they are gone.
Lots of arguements misunderstandings and hurt feelings, it can be really tough.
They are all still my friends but they don,t come around anymore, because, if they do they know I,m going to ask thier opinion on a number of spiritual issues and they simply do not want to talk about it, and I simply don,t want to, not, talk about it.
It seems that once you are awake, a real paradymn shift, you can,t go back or won,t go back, even at great loss or heartache for yourself.
I,m sorry your having a rough time right now, it will get better, know you are not alone.

[jackovesk]

I would'nt be trying to 'Wake Up' as many people as I possibly can to the 'Truth as I know it' without controlled 'Anger & Emotion'..!

:)

[Warlock]

When people cannot "see" what you "see", when they cannot "hear" what you "hear", it can be frustrating.
Sometimes this can get "under our skin" and we just have to ride it out a bit.

Don't forget: Even though you may be more "aware" than others, you are still a human being, with all the frailties that come with being human.

Warlock

[nearing]

anger is preferable to depression, imo. They are the same emotion just aimed at different people. I wish I felt more anger, I think I would be happier.
:eek:

[eva08]

This is an interesting thread and I wanted to share my experiences a bit. I could never be angry in my childhood, I was always deathly afraid of angry and angering someone else and not getting someone elses approval. Being an artist that was the loop I was entrapped in in many different angles and perspectives.
So I created this love relationship for myself, a few years back, where I am intensely loved, however - I resumed my spiritual growth and my partner does not want anything to do with anything spiritual; any departures from his little universe of rules and fixed ideas are met with anger; anger left and anger right.
First I learned to overcome my own timidness to respond; then I learned to express my own anger; then I learned to not hold any anger, but this is a difficult one and I am still working on that one: like anger in and anger out, staying unengaged; or engaging, speaking my peace and letting it all go, again. Now I am teaching myself to communicate and suggest different behavior responses and I have plenty of opportunity to practice. One of these responses is to allow the other person freedom of choice - of not ascending - of keeping his anger and state of being of choice, blaming me for everything,… blablabla,… and I am teaching myself to project my heart and goals and purposes and ignore his often ranting and negatively raving and many interferences and interruptions in my creative work; I suggest new ways to him of what to say to me, while ignoring the rage, rather than me attempting to forbid or annihilate what I am perceiving is causing his rage. I am keeping my thoughts more to myself and re-focusing on my own holographic projection - all the way that I see, feel and perceive; these perceptions being true to my own and I am no longer attempting to be agreed upon in my views, or looking to be supported or helped; I taught myself to not engage -and I am still working on that one - while at the very same time be true to the calling of my heart in all aspects of my life's projected existence.
I have gotten lots of "mileage" out of this misfit relationship and taking it as a precious opportunity to help resolve conflicts. Thought I'd share this here, if helpful.

[Star1111]

This is an interesting thread and I wanted to share my experiences a bit. I could never be angry in my childhood, I was always deathly afraid of angry and angering someone else and not getting someone elses approval. Being an artist that was the loop I was entrapped in in many different angles and perspectives.
So I created this love relationship for myself, a few years back, where I am intensely loved, however - I resumed my spiritual growth and my partner does not want anything to do with anything spiritual; any departures from his little universe of rules and fixed ideas are met with anger; anger left and anger right.
First I learned to overcome my own timidness to respond; then I learned to express my own anger; then I learned to not hold any anger, but this is a difficult one and I am still working on that one: like anger in and anger out, staying unengaged; or engaging, speaking my peace and letting it all go, again. Now I am teaching myself to communicate and suggest different behavior responses and I have plenty of opportunity to practice. One of these responses is to allow the other person freedom of choice - of not ascending - of keeping his anger and state of being of choice, blaming me for everything,… blablabla,… and I am teaching myself to project my heart and goals and purposes and ignore his often ranting and negatively raving and many interferences and interruptions in my creative work; I suggest new ways to him of what to say to me, while ignoring the rage, rather than me attempting to forbid or annihilate what I am perceiving is causing his rage. I am keeping my thoughts more to myself and re-focusing on my own holographic projection - all the way that I see, feel and perceive; these perceptions being true to my own and I am no longer attempting to be agreed upon in my views, or looking to be supported or helped; I taught myself to not engage -and I am still working on that one - while at the very same time be true to the calling of my heart in all aspects of my life's projected existence.
I have gotten lots of "mileage" out of this misfit relationship and taking it as a precious opportunity to help resolve conflicts. Thought I'd share this here, if helpful.

Eva08 - good plan but please ensure you don't become 'opressed' for want of a better word by another. Keeping your cool and not responding is sometimes a good thing and can raise your vibrations BUT not saying something becuase you might get an angry reaction is not a good thing. If I've interpreted your post correctly, I may not have and if so, I apologise for that.
I just don't like the idea of anyone not stating what they feel for the sake of being 'attacked' - in my view this is a form of psychological bullying and I do NOT like any form of bullying.
With LOVE to you

[Someoneson1]

I know this feeling all to well and I believe it's part of the process. It's hard to let go when we have nothing else to put our stock or focus into. Once I seen the paradigm we were in and the exit and knew that no matter how many bodies we take or need to get there, WE WILL GET THERE. I could let go by seeing by brother cross the line at whatever interval in time it happened to be, it became much easier to let things, ppl go.

Thanks for sharing

[eva08]

This is an interesting thread and I wanted to share my experiences a bit. I could never be angry in my childhood, I was always deathly afraid of angry and angering someone else and not getting someone elses approval. Being an artist that was the loop I was entrapped in in many different angles and perspectives.
So I created this love relationship for myself, a few years back, where I am intensely loved, however - I resumed my spiritual growth and my partner does not want anything to do with anything spiritual; any departures from his little universe of rules and fixed ideas are met with anger; anger left and anger right.
First I learned to overcome my own timidness to respond; then I learned to express my own anger; then I learned to not hold any anger, but this is a difficult one and I am still working on that one: like anger in and anger out, staying unengaged; or engaging, speaking my peace and letting it all go, again. Now I am teaching myself to communicate and suggest different behavior responses and I have plenty of opportunity to practice. One of these responses is to allow the other person freedom of choice - of not ascending - of keeping his anger and state of being of choice, blaming me for everything,… blablabla,… and I am teaching myself to project my heart and goals and purposes and ignore his often ranting and negatively raving and many interferences and interruptions in my creative work; I suggest new ways to him of what to say to me, while ignoring the rage, rather than me attempting to forbid or annihilate what I am perceiving is causing his rage. I am keeping my thoughts more to myself and re-focusing on my own holographic projection - all the way that I see, feel and perceive; these perceptions being true to my own and I am no longer attempting to be agreed upon in my views, or looking to be supported or helped; I taught myself to not engage -and I am still working on that one - while at the very same time be true to the calling of my heart in all aspects of my life's projected existence.
I have gotten lots of "mileage" out of this misfit relationship and taking it as a precious opportunity to help resolve conflicts. Thought I'd share this here, if helpful.

Eva08 - good plan but please ensure you don't become 'opressed' for want of a better word by another. Keeping your cool and not responding is sometimes a good thing and can raise your vibrations BUT not saying something becuase you might get an angry reaction is not a good thing. If I've interpreted your post correctly, I may not have and if so, I apologise for that.
I just don't like the idea of anyone not stating what they feel for the sake of being 'attacked' - in my view this is a form of psychological bullying and I do NOT like any form of bullying.
With LOVE to you

Thank you, I sincerely appreciate your concern. You are absolutely right. This has been a very LONG standing battle for me (lifetimes) expressing my art - you can see the very same pattern and trail in many artists and composers -- so I decided to dive into the fears and stand up; there's no more avoidance for me; there's only stand up tall in the face of anything, fearlessly and project myself and my art and teaching. There's no more moving, running, going elsewhere, avoiding to create a safe heaven. I am the source of my own safe heaven wherever I am in the face of any and all regardless. Well, I am still working on that one; but in essence that is my holographic truth where I no longer create the opponent side for whatever reason. The angry side is simply losing force and modulating into higher thought frequencies by following in the path. Maybe I should say holographic frequency clearing for lack of better words.

[Tony]

Forgive me for butting in.

Waking up is full of pent up emotions. There is a process going on.

Something brilliant radiating from within you that might make others feel uncomfortable.
It maybe causing a conflict within them. They feel safe in thinking the world is a certain way,
and you come along and seem to be changing.
Seeds are being sown all the time, all they need is a little bit of watering and a bit of manure.

Everything is fine!

[Tony]

I had been angry all my life.

Then, with the help of a teacher, I saw the nature of mind.
Guess what? I was even more angry! Before, life was totally frustrating, trying to fit into a mad world. Now, I was angry at all those people who had been telling me what to do...and they had been wrong - and I had obeyed! I had spent twenty five years in idiot meditation...that's karma for you!

What was strange was that this anger slowly turned into compassion, all by itself. The root had been cut.
As they say, go with the flow, and try not to wobble too much.
I still wobble...!

[Dawn]

Now, I was angry at all those people who had been telling me what to do...and they had been wrong - and I had obeyed! I had spent twenty five years in idiot meditation

Wow Tony! I am so amazed that you were able to leave the trap. Most who are so deeply indoctrinated do not ever get free of the patterns! Great story!

I wish to say a little about what I have learned about emotions here. And I have 2 viewpoints I'd like to gift to the group. The first one is that emotions are only difficult if we resist them. What you resists persists. And if you think anger is 'bad or wrong' then you will truly suffer with it. So the real work here is to accept this too with compassion and love. All emotions are simply frequencies and I'd like to credit Lester Levenson with the following emotional chart which was instrumental in helping me disengage from feeling that these were 'me'. From the lowest to the highest frequency here is a list of emotions:

Emotions in the Separation or Hate Frequencies (from low to high)

Apathy (this would include depression)

Grief (from this frequency you can ask for help, but you will not do anything to help yourself)

Fear (the only action usually possible from this frequency is hiding)

Anger (this is the first frequency on the scale which allows action, and sometimes this is the highest frequency people can achieve)

Lust (when this is present you can become locked into desire, a main issue for human consciousness at this juncture)

Pride or Arrogance (the frequency of most managers and lots of action is possible here. The highest of these frequencies and since it is still separation or hate based, being around someone stuck in this frequency can be very painful.

Emotions in the Love Frequencies (from low to high)

Courage (the lowest frequencies here can still be separation based, however most of this emotion is inclusive of others and based in love)

Love (resonates with the lower octave frequency which is hate, which is why love relationships easily turn over into hate)

Joy (resonates with the lower octave which is grief which is why it can turn into tears)

Peace (resonates with apathy and can easily turn into that frequency)

To enjoy this reality it is necessary to become neutral to all of these. They are not me, and they are not you. If you resist them then they become very sticky and can be a nasty experience (for the separation based emotions). Yet if you cling to them, they will elude you (for this is the 'lust-lock' or the 'desire trap')

About the anger you are feeling; most of us in this forum are on our way 'up' in consciousness and frequency. Part of our journey is to release millennia of acquired patterns and hidden memories. We also need to release cellular memory from our bodies, and some of this is generational from our fore bearers. When this stuff releases there is no 'free ride' for us, we feel it! This is different than others who are not awakened yet, and who are still creating these frequencies and building them up.

And while I'm on this subject... my partner and I both had anger arise within our awareness within 30 minutes of the full moon. It was intense, and underneath there were tears and grief. It was not 'about' anything. We experienced the back and forth of anger, then tears and grief for about 24 hours. After it was over we were both extremely exhausted. So... it could have been moon related. I prefer to think of these as healing releases... yet who actually knows for sure.

[Davidallany]

and I simply don,t want to, not, talk about it
One can also say. I simply don't want to talk about it..................not

:)

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I had been angry all my life.
That is difficult to believe Tony. You look like what is commonly known as an Angel.

[Davidallany]

Forgive me for butting in.

Waking up is full of pent up emotions. There is a process going on.

Something brilliant radiating from within you that might make others feel uncomfortable.
It maybe causing a conflict within them. They feel safe in thinking the world is a certain way,
and you come along and seem to be changing.
Seeds are being sown all the time, all they need is a little bit of watering and a bit of manure.

Everything is fine!

Offering service out of love is sometimes misunderstood and mistrusted if the offered is not sensitive to vibes, and immersed in thoughts.
9rscHQIPGKY

[Tony]

Dear David,
Love it, love it, love it! Love is tough going! Oi!..but we still love!

[truthseekerdan]

anger is preferable to depression, imo. They are the same emotion just aimed at different people. I wish I felt more anger, I think I would be happier.
:eek:

The basis of anger is the belief that we have been violated and that a form of retaliation is justified by us in return. Yet, no wrong can justify a wrong. No wrong makes things right. Anger is a form of hatred. If we hate anyone, we dislike a part of ourselves...

[Simonm]

I grew up in a loving family and had a happy childhood. However, after being involved in active service and seeing things that people should never have to, I became Angry. This was coupled with serious bouts of depression. I abused alcohol and even dabled with various drugs (illegal). I have stayed away from drugs for many years now, but still drink, although not for the same reason I used to. Purely socialy now and few and far between.

I have been feeling relieved and happier these last few years and over the last few months have felt better than ever. I now no longer get angry for no reason and when I do it's tempered and rational. After coming to the conclusion that there is a conciousness that we return to (It makes perfect sense to me) I have felt positively lifted.

[Fred Steeves]

I've been finding that the more I'm able to just simply forgive myself for my many inadequacies and transgressions, the easier and more natural it is to see other's that way as well. There's a long way to go, but there's also a relief in just being willing to let more things go.

Cheers,
Fred