Why so many false predictions?

[syrwong]

I recently made the mistake of telling friends about a possible catastrophe to happen on Sept 26, then again mentioned the date of Oct 11 by relating the message of a thread in this forum. Now I realize that even though I stated that probably nothing would happen, my “credit” has dropped by not just a bit.

This led me to ponder the question in the title. I propose the following answers:

1. The PTB is fearful of the gradual but accelerating awakening of the people. While they may not be able to stop it, they certainly want to impede it. This is done by launching a big psy-op.

2. As the alternative communities lead this process, it is most important to attack the communities on the internet. As the Chinese saying goes, “To shoot a man you first shoot the horse he is riding, to catch a gang of bandits you first catch the gang leader.” The founders of the progressive websites and others must therefore be discredited, which is better than to be done away with. So they are insidiously surrounded by agents and fed with disinformation. On such high level it is extremely difficult to discern false information, because the agents would have knowledge of true black project information etc. If the leader is tricked, his or her search will go astray. This will misdirect and waste the time and energy of the whole community.

3. The ordinary members of the alternative community can be a great headache as they can spread the words fast and there is no efficient way of shouting them up. Here come the false prophets. These people of the alternative community, because of their open mindedness and thirst for knowledge, often unprovable knowledge at the edge are most vulnerable to false “whistle blower info” or just plain free “anonymous info” when it is sprinkled with some dust of truth. Let them hear some fearmongering prophecies, best to take place on a very near future date, and they will feel obliged to warn their family and friends. This is done of course in a very clever way, like spreading the words from seemingly different sources, so that the victims can “triangulate” the info etc. As the day soon passes without happenings, they are discredited by their own instinctive action.

This is just a piece of “awakening” I have, any suggestions for the answer?

[laughs-last]

miss fires only confuse people, not the overall change which is up and running. miss info creates problems uncrtainty and can lead to fear and negativity.
I posted this on another page, but don't know how to link it, lol. Hope this is useful.

oh some people have all the fun however........ there is a major shift picking speed at the moment in the astral I feel, and its been slowly snowballing for the last few years or rather now has began to pick up speed. to be honest I'm kinda rooting for a massive consciousness world transformation, without all the apocaliptic death and destruction, problems yes/maybe cats eating dogs no. Apocalypse means revealing/unveiling, so what if its just an end to deception, or rather low level energy of a similar kind. No more bull****, and a freeing of the spirit of man to move forward, to infinity and beyond. From a shamanic perspective everything is honky doory and coming along nicely; you won't find me running round going woo woo, however it could be fun to do it in a busy shopping centre; i digress . Change is coming, some of us have maybe a better feel of its direction than others, however i'm sure that the golden reality tunnel thread is quite strong and I feel that the non cool threads of time are now being cliped away. so if you imagine a funnel of water where the pressure of water is greater and the water is faster near the exit spout than the slower speed of the water at the entry point; then we are moving towards this spout, which means the variables of time are diminshing towards a nexus point, where a change reaches a point of no deviantion. I feel we are moving into the narrower part of the spout, and thus we are beginning to feel the tightening of the 'quantum tunnel' the effect will be felt more intensely by the more sensitive people, who should be first to exit the spout. this exit I feel is the light at the end of the tunnel, with the reestablishment of a shift towards the gaia consciousness and unity. The mystics I know are now feeling the growing intensity of this, which is powerful, and I feel with amplify ones present energetic state; hence keeping relaxed and avioding undue stress is probably a good idea. As a shaman i'm used to having my head pounded as a shaman am trying to smooth the ride for all of us. However i'm still up for a laugh and that's probably a good idea to balance off the excess negitivity. say a prayer for me, as even mavericks like myself know every little helps

LOVE YOU ALL, BIG HUGZ AND CANDY BARS

[lake]

Understand the way you feel syrwong,
been there and played that game.

Now I have chosen 1 event, which in my own opinion will occur, that is the financial collapse of fiat currency.
I give no date, just point out current events and hope that questions are then asked.

As to other things.............what will be will be. :rapture: :alien: :flypig: :wacko:

[jackovesk]

Why so many false predictions?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1253047543706&id=d3fd91aa69d65fd555e6627717eb649d&url=http%3a%2f%2fimage.shutterstock.com%2fdisplay_pic_with_logo%2f138454%2f138454%2c1229549048%2c1%2 fstock-photo-cash-register-22207240.jpg

That's Why..!

[Tony]

I'm one with you lot!

[shadowstalker]

another reason why they don't always come to pass


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFiE56FvGE

[Mark]

Co-sign. :alien:

[syrwong]

another reason why they don't always come to pass



I tend to think the positive effect of a prediction is to change the experiencing of the predicted event, as in the case of the weather prediction of a cylcone, you can choose to move out of its path and be safe, or to experience its devastation. I am unsure of the infinite timeline theory.

[Carmody]

I recently made the mistake of telling friends about a possible catastrophe to happen on Sept 26, then again mentioned the date of Oct 11 by relating the message of a thread in this forum. Now I realize that even though I stated that probably nothing would happen, my “credit” has dropped by not just a bit.

This led me to ponder the question in the title. I propose the following answers:

1. The PTB is fearful of the gradual but accelerating awakening of the people. While they may not be able to stop it, they certainly want to impede it. This is done by launching a big psy-op.

2. As the alternative communities lead this process, it is most important to attack the communities on the internet. As the Chinese saying goes, “To shoot a man you first shoot the horse he is riding, to catch a gang of bandits you first catch the gang leader.” The founders of the progressive websites and others must therefore be discredited, which is better than to be done away with. So they are insidiously surrounded by agents and fed with disinformation. On such high level it is extremely difficult to discern false information, because the agents would have knowledge of true black project information etc. If the leader is tricked, his or her search will go astray. This will misdirect and waste the time and energy of the whole community.

3. The ordinary members of the alternative community can be a great headache as they can spread the words fast and there is no efficient way of shouting them up. Here come the false prophets. These people of the alternative community, because of their open mindedness and thirst for knowledge, often unprovable knowledge at the edge are most vulnerable to false “whistle blower info” or just plain free “anonymous info” when it is sprinkled with some dust of truth. Let them hear some fearmongering prophecies, best to take place on a very near future date, and they will feel obliged to warn their family and friends. This is done of course in a very clever way, like spreading the words from seemingly different sources, so that the victims can “triangulate” the info etc. As the day soon passes without happenings, they are discredited by their own instinctive action.

This is just a piece of “awakening” I have, any suggestions for the answer?

speaking on surrounding the given person, item, group or individual who is progressive and getting the message out... the magazine "wired' has run an article on the Rossi E-Cat cold fusion device.

It is considered by some in the alternative fields that Wired magazine is a COINTELINPRO operation, ie like popular mechanics, a debunking magazine for the PTB. Wired is the same, potentially. If this is true...they would start off by making sure that the idea of trust and truth is on their side and they care for and about the common man.

Thus, if Wired ends up finding fault with the Rossi E-Cat Cold Fusion device, they make sure, prior to that event..that Wired is seen as involved, trustful, truthful, progressive and most importantly - close enough to the situation to be presenting the 'truth' to the 'people'.


http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/06/e-cat-cold-fusion

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3322

[shadowstalker]

another reason why they don't always come to pass



I tend to think the positive effect of a prediction is to change the experiencing of the predicted event, as in the case of the weather prediction of a cylcone, you can choose to move out of its path and be safe, or to experience its devastation. I am unsure of the infinite timeline theory.

The vid is just a small part of the equation when one thinks about it, more like an add on...lol

[TargeT]

Critical thinking is key and there is only one way to do it correctly:
www.triviumeducation.com

I feel you are correct, except I would be cautious to say there is a "big psyop", that's not needed, we will do this to ourselfs because hardly anyone has the ability to discover logical fallisy and almost no one practices the 7 liberal arts anymore (Trivium & quadradium).

[truth4me]

predict nothing BUT expect anything.......

[AMystic3434]

I think that many of these people who make predictions and say that they have recieved messages from other worldly beings like spiritguides do probably believe what they are saying. The thing is is I think spiritguides will tell the person what they need to hear. So if some one is in touch with there spiritguide and they ask them for a certain date the spiritguide might tell them its true when it really isnt.

[Billy]

Oh, That will be the false prophets :gossip: :blah:, there are many of them around at this time :bounce:

[syrwong]

Critical thinking is key and there is only one way to do it correctly:
www.triviumeducation.com

I feel you are correct, except I would be cautious to say there is a "big psyop", that's not needed, we will do this to ourselfs because hardly anyone has the ability to discover logical fallisy and almost no one practices the 7 liberal arts anymore (Trivium & quadradium).


Psyop has always been important, and often a cheap way of winning a war. The US governent or its controllers is the master of Psyop (don't some compare it with Oceania?) , so there is no way they would not spend huge to suppress the awakening movement.

[math330]

Thanks Syrwong..
Been wondering about the same thing myself as of late - and also wondered if the alternative community had been infiltrated (I think it goes without saying) in some way.
I used to love coming here, but now I try to avoid some of the more 'out there' links - which is a real shame as I might miss something worthwhile. I can't say for sure that this is psyop or just a natural result of more and more people 'waking up' to what's going on.
It's been mentioned on this forum many times before that it seems better for TPTB (whoever they actually are - call it Illuminati or just plain greed and power at the top) if the unwashed masses are left running round in circles waiting for the world to end while Big Business continues as normal. A distraction - and it works. Works well.

Best thing to do is live your life as you want to live it, forget the 'predictions' and associated BS, concentrate on what's actually happening right under our noses (eg financial trickery, intelligence community and Govt working to further the Multinational's interests, centralisation of power and wealth - all the info is there in plain sight).

Same for me as disclosure now - if it happens then yeah, sweet... but we can't control that. So let's try to do something about our current situation. And, let's face it - our current situation is pretty abysmal.

Also - Pie'N'Eal.. superb username ;)

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Should've added, sorry - I too made the mistake of trying to tell people about certain dates. And any credibility I had was pretty much out of the window once those dates passed without anything eventful happening.

[Maia Gabrial]

Why so many false predictions?



That's Why..!

But also, IMO they want to cry wolf so many times, watching us react. When nothing happens, then our trust starts to decline each time. Then there won't be a reaction or response when the REAL thing happens....We'll be caught with our pants down....for sure.

[TargeT]

Psyop has always been important, and often a cheap way of winning a war. The US governent or its controllers is the master of Psyop (don't some compare it with Oceania?) , so there is no way they would not spend huge to suppress the awakening movement.

what I was getting at is this: it wouldn't take a BIG psyop... it would be rather easy.

[kiwi]

False predictions are made to keep people in a state of panic. The more people are afraid, living in fear and expecting doom, the easier they are to manipulate and control. Fear and negativity is your WORST enemy. Far worse than anything the elite can do. Which is why I warn people to STOP believing all of these predictions, that are made to keep us waiting for doom to strike.

I remember people claiming the dollar was going to collapse some month in 2008. Then I heard Wilcock claim it was going to collapse in April of 2011. I've heard numerous earthquake predictions as well....all of which have been incorrect. All of them.

Absolutely nothing in the future is set in stone. A lot of good people are also being fed false information, so they will go and tell people like us the news only to be wrong. Then when these people with good intentions end up being wrong, it makes everyone question them and call them 'fake'. It's all a trap.

[syrwong]

Why so many false predictions?



That's Why..!

But also, IMO they want to cry wolf so many times, watching us react. When nothing happens, then our trust starts to decline each time. Then there won't be a reaction or response when the REAL thing happens....We'll be caught with our pants down....for sure.

That's exactly what I thought today, but view in a different angle:

The more obvious reason for so many false prophets is to counter the influence of the real prophets. There are not many of them, but their influence can be great. By giving advance warnings and lifting the veils, they are an obvious threat. For example, to secure their depopulation agenda, the TPTB surely want to keep the people in the city when the great quake or the tsunami comes. Cry wolf many times will do the job.

[jackovesk]

FYI...


I have just added a 'Poll' for all those in agreement that it would be beneficial to have a New Sub-Topic named 'Predictions' as a place of Discernment where we can Discuss, Track, Monitor & Observe the numerous Predictions put out there in the alternative community...

Thread...


Just wanted to run this 'Idea' past you all,

Leading up to 12/21/2012 as you know there is much Speculation and 'Growing' Interest as to what may play out on/after that day, that is not going to go away...

Predictions are now becoming thick and fast amongst the alternative community...

Lately we continually hear about the increased 'Fearmongering Issues' here at Avalon, which in my view is not really an issue at all...as most of these threads contain actual on-the-ground Truth as to what is really going on within the world.

Like anything else 'Discernment' is the key as to what individual chooses to believe or not...

In light of this 'Ongoing Issue' can I suggest we open up a new (Sub Topic) named "Predictions" so people can post on what 'Predictions' are being discussed in the alternative media at an increasingly rapid rate leading up to 2012...

It would help 'ISOLATE' many of the so called predictive 'Fearmongering' type threads in one sub-topical area for those that wish to discuss such events on the proviso there is a 'Disclaimer'...


Disclaimer: "These are Predictions only, and your Discernment is paramount when viewing this Sub-Topic"

There are no right or wrong predictions in this Sub-Topic, it is merely a place of discussion for those interested...

So when people go to this Sub-Topic 'Predictions' they will know what to expect..! Its just a place to post and discuss threads on 'Predictions'.

What say you..?

Regards,

Jack

PS - Don't know about you but I am growing increasingly tired of those who Bag Avalon for whatever selfish reason..! They do both Avalonians, its Guests and the Forum no favors whatsoever and is increasingly becoming a major concern...

PSS - Alternative name for New Sub-Topic could be "Predictions a place for your Discernment"...






...Update...

Just worked out how to do it...Sorry it took so long

The Poll has been added...

"Would you like to see a 'New Sub-Topic' named 'Predictions' a place of Discernment?"

Thanks to the following 40 members for your 'Thanks & Support' so far for our 'Predictions' Sub-Topic Proposal - Please Vote and show your support again in the the Poll...

10477

So please if you Agree with this 'Idea' please show your support and 'Vote' in the New Poll here...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32222-Predictions..-#post330914

Kind Regards to you all...

Jack

[math330]

Good call, nice one Jackovesk

[motherlove]

Why do we look for some authority out side of ourselves? Only you know the truth. Best Wishes.

[UFOphotos]

If you stick to the science and keep it that way, you can´t go wrong in the long run. And all the other stuff, all the predictions based on nothing really, is useless. The question is whether we have a reasonable opportunity to know what will happen with all the disinformation out there? The best thing to stick to, is to listen to your heart, because it seems it´s the only thing you have in these days...

[WhiteFeather]

When Time-Lines change, predictions change. Are we changing our timelines through consciousness. Consciousness Seems to be the topic of the day, here on Avalon.

[syrwong]

Why so many false predictions?



That's Why..!

But also, IMO they want to cry wolf so many times, watching us react. When nothing happens, then our trust starts to decline each time. Then there won't be a reaction or response when the REAL thing happens....We'll be caught with our pants down....for sure.

That's exactly what I thought today, but view in a different angle:

The more obvious reason for so many false prophets is to counter the influence of the real prophets. There are not many of them, but their influence can be great. By giving advance warnings and lifting the veils, they are an obvious threat. For example, to secure their depopulation agenda, the TPTB surely want to keep the people in the city when the great quake or the tsunami comes. Cry wolf many times will do the job.


If you stick to the science and keep it that way, you can´t go wrong in the long run. And all the other stuff, all the predictions based on nothing really, is useless. The question is whether we have a reasonable opportunity to know what will happen with all the disinformation out there? The best thing to stick to, is to listen to your heart, because it seems it´s the only thing you have in these days...

It is neccessary to stick to science and logic to filter out disinfo. It may even be best to stick only to your favorite trusted source. However, as I pointed out, our openmindedness is also our weakness, because we read profusely trying to learn more, and are more ready to accept "ridiculous things". It then is 100% sure we run into disinfo agents who are well equiped with some grains of uncommon truths and appear very attractive. Checking can also be difficult, as scientific information is suppressed and altered, like in the case of Japan, we are not even sure of the level of radiation even if it is believed to be dangerously high. It has also been pointed out that some earthquakes magnitudes have been scaled down. In fact, if not for the supression of astronomical data, we would have had the truth of Nibiru already.

[RMorgan]

Also, you have to realize that the New-Age business moves millions of dollars every year. It´s a great money making machine, and, just like the churches all around the world, they sell invisible, intangible goods, which is the best thing ever for profiting.

At the moment when some new-age pseudo-guru makes a prediction, let´s say, for two years from now, like the Mayan calendar stuff, for example, he makes A LOT of money until the predicated date comes and nothing happens.

Just imagine how many 2012 apocalypse products will be sold until 2012 comes to pass. Millions of DVDs, millions of CDs, millions of books, expensive lectures, protective amulets, t-shirts, caps, website adds, etc...

Nothing is better for business than having clients that buy your products without questioning. Fanatic customers are the best.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Also, you have to realize that the New-Age business moves millions of dollars every year. It´s a great money making machine, and, just like the churches all around the world, they sell invisible, intangible goods, which is the best thing ever for profiting.

At the moment when some new-age pseudo-guru makes a prediction, let´s say, for two years from now, like the Mayan calendar stuff, for example, he makes A LOT of money until the predicated date comes and nothing happens.

Just imagine how many 2012 apocalypse products will be sold until 2012 comes to pass. Millions of DVDs, millions of CDs, millions of books, expensive lectures, protective amulets, t-shirts, caps, website adds, etc...

Nothing is better for business than having clients that buy your products without questioning. Fanatic customers are the best.

I agree. And we love the drama of it all, takes us away from our personal dramas. No different than operas, soap operas, etc. As my son often points out: Life is just the Jerry Springer show in different packaging.

Let's all go out for a walk in nature with a good companion - human or animal - or both.