Look whose relative just got $135.8 million Energy Loan..?

[jackovesk]

Look whose relative just got $135.8 million energy loan

'Green' firm with White House ties lined up to get massive guarantee...

October 11, 2011

The sister-in-law of John Podesta, President Obama's influential White House transition director, served as the lobbyist for a wind power firm that was just awarded a $135.8 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy.

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John Podesta, co-chairman of Obama's transition team

The company is Brookfield Asset Management. It boasts a board of nine directors, including New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's long-term girlfriend.

The Energy Department's promise to Brookfield marks the latest in controversial massive alternative energy loans to companies with strong ties to the Obama White House and to top Democrat lawmakers.

Read about the "ballot box stuffers," "urban terrorists," "gangsters" and others who make up "Obama's favorite community organizing group," in "Subversion Inc."

Last month, the grant was finalized to build the 99 megawatt Granite Reliable wind project in New Hampshire's Coos County, making it the state's largest wind plant.

Seventy-five percent of the new wind project is owned by BAIF Granite Holdings, which was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management of New York.

Since 2009, Brookfield has been represented by the lobby firm Heather Podesta and Partners, LLC.

Podesta, a top financial bundler for Democrat politicians, is wife of lobbyist and art collector, Tony Podesta, who is the brother of John Podesta.

John Podesta is director of the Center for American Progress, which is reportedly highly influential in helping to craft White House policy.

A Time magazine article profiled the influence of Podesta's Center for American Progress in the formation of the Obama administration, stating that "not since the Heritage Foundation helped guide Ronald Reagan's transition in 1981 has a single outside group held so much sway."

The center is funded by billionaire George Soros. Its board includes Van Jones, Obama's former "green jobs" czar, who resigned in September 2009 after it was exposed he founded a communist revolutionary organization.

Heather Podesta and her husband this past July topped the FEC's lobbyist bundler database, raising more money in the six months prior than any other lobbyist by far. Their fund raising was largely for Democrats.

According to White House visitor logs, Heather Podesta visited the White House eight times in Obama's first six months alone.

Brookfield, meanwhile, is a Toronto, Ontario-based asset management company that manages a global portfolio of assets valued at over $120 billion. The firm's assets include not only renewable power generation but also real estate, including some of Manhattan’s most famous skyline buildings.

Brookfield also happens to own Zuccotti Park, the park where the Occupy Wall Street protesters are currently holed up. The protesters have reportedly been making a mess of the park, which is named after Brookfield's co-chairman, John Zuccotti.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Brookfield wanted the protesters removed, but Bloomberg's New York Police Department urged the private company to allow the protests to stay in the park.

There isn't much Brookfield can do to evict the protesters, since the park's charter allows for 24-hour public access.

Earlier this week, WND was first to report that Mayor Bloomberg's long-term girlfriend, Dianna L. Taylor, serves as one of nine members of Brookfield's board of directors.

The loan to Brookfield is just the latest example of controversial handouts to "green" companies with White House ties.

Last month, WND broke the story that Obama's nominee for Commerce secretary, John Bruson, served as chairman of the board of a solar energy company that recently received a $1.37 billion federal loan guarantee – the largest the Department of Energy has ever given for a solar power project.

Now that company, BrightSource Energy, is attempting to build the world's largest solar power plant amid concerns such ventures may be too risky an investment for the federal government.

Also raising concerns about possible favors being pulled is a report from last month revealing that a $737 million government loan guarantee was given to a solar company in which Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law has a stake.

The loan to Brookfield comes at a time when the entire solar energy enterprise is being questioned as overseas manufacturers, particularly China and Taiwan, have produced similar products and services at much lower prices.

Already, the cost of generating power with panels plunged about 37 percent in the past year, as Chinese factories cut prices. The price slashes pushed three U.S. makers, including Solyndra, into bankruptcy protection in the past quarter.

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PS - Who would of thought..! (Obama: "There will be no more behind the scenes 'Lobbying' & 'No Bid Govt. Contracts'..!)

The huge 'Wind Turbines' LITTERING our Environment

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generate about as much power as one of my 'Farts'..!

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[sygh]

Jackovsk, wind power is actually more efficient than solar right now. But here's the deal, if you put a wind generator or a couple of solar panels up on your house, run it through a controller and an inverter, and then just plug it into one of your wall sockets, that circuit WILL feed energy into your home, and WILL offset your electric bill. Bottomline, your refrigerator doesn't care where the power comes from.

1 MW wind farm isn't a 10 MW coal fire plant, granted, nor is it an electromagnetic generator but if you could fart this kind of energy out of your respective neither region, I'd probably serve you beans, stick you on the roof and run a circuit from the source to the wall plug. :bump2::hug:

[ThePythonicCow]

then just plug it into one of your wall sockets,
Don't do that while you are still connected to the grid -- that current from your inverter will not be in phase with the current from the grid.

Don't do that with more than about 10 or 15 amps, in an ordinary wall socket, or your risk of burning down the house from an electrical fire, caused by an overloaded wire connection somewhere, starts to rise noticeably.

Don't do that in general, unless you, or whomever you've hired to do it, understands wiring and electricity and the proper use of the ordinary tools, connectors, boxes, conduits, breakers, fuses, wiring, switches, and such you'll be working with.

[sygh]

then just plug it into one of your wall sockets,
Don't do that while you are still connected to the grid -- that current from your inverter will not be in phase with the current from the grid.

Don't do that with more than about 10 or 15 amps, in an ordinary wall socket, or your risk of burning down the house from an electrical fire, caused by an overloaded wire connection somewhere, starts to rise noticeably.

Don't do that in general, unless you, or whomever you've hired to do it, understands wiring and electricity and the proper use of the ordinary tools, connectors, boxes, conduits, breakers, fuses, wiring, switches, and such you'll be working with.

Of course not.

Come on smile. Every point you made is true. There was laugher accompanying the above conversational statement I made but I can back it up. First of all, in the state of NC, only an engineer can build a solar system. Others can install it, others can even create it and build it, but an electrical engineer has to sign off on it. Not so for anything not permanant though, like generators or solar emergency back-up.

A couple of panels, 36V @ 5.3 A total, with 4- 12V 5.3A Lead Acid, flooded deep cycle batteries 2x2 in parallel, an MPPT L15 converter, along with the power it takes to run a DC to AC inverter (notice, I did previously mention an inverter) won't produce any more than the 10-15 Amps we're talking about here. Ummm, maybe a little more, as MPPT's are 30% more efficient than the made for off-grid Pulse Width Modulator s (PMW). A couple of 18Volt panels will not produce anything near 5000 Watts, which is what an emergency generator would produce. A 5000W generator can produce clean 120V/240V sine-wave wave power, and in a pinch, a gallon of gas every couple of hours to produce 1,000 Watts of power is acceptable, I suppose. When the utility power source is not available, people plug generators into their wall sockets all of the time, and at lower voltages, and higher currents.

Most new homes are wired to accept that sort of amperage, especially the wall socket reserved for a refridgerator. Of course fuses, breakers, special GMTF sockets, etc, all come into play. And, I wouldn't want to plug into a circuit chain. And no, although it is, we wouldn't want the public to think it was that simple. Generally speaking, it's best to run it through a seperate breaker box with an automatic system shutoff. This is when your system is actually connected to the grid. However, according to the NEC, in-house wireing at minimum requirements, would accept the power generated from the solar system I was talking about.

But here is something interesting about plugging into a wall socket while still connected to the grid that most don't think about...

Because AC runs both ways, an alternate 120V power source plugged into a wall socket, when "in sync", will suplant, in other words, take the place of the energy that would normally come from the grid. You don't actually get higher amperage on your circuit, you replace the power supplied from the utility grid. The problem you speak of actually concerns the electrical parameters of the specific circuit you plug into, the AWG of the wire, and the number of loads connected in series, or parallel to it, along with the circuit breaker, or GTMF precautions.

As to this puny 2 panel array... We know, inverters, are electrical devices that convert 12-volt power into 120-volt power. Typically you run an inverter off of your car's battery or off of a deep-cycle battery that you buy specifically to power the inverter. An inverter is a very easy and inexpensive solution -if you can keep your power demands in the 200-watt range. If you are willing to build a more elaborate system, inverters can be a good option up to about 2,500 watts, expensive ($600-$800 per).

Some real differences we can make concerning sustainability absolutely right now comes into play when we start addressing sustainable building concepts, the laws of passive solar, and living within our earthly means,, while still living comfortably, and technologically. The point is, I'd rather see some sort of alternative progress, than no progress at all. I have a picture of what the streets that were wired for electricity once looked like, when electricity was first mass produced. You want to talk about flying spagetti! Unfortunately, I'm not able to share that drawing with you at the moment. But I can share this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=110997398
and this
http://www.reformation.org/thomas-edison.html

The second link doesn't mention Tesla, which is an unforgiveable mistake in my book. So, we must simply asume Tesla was behind Westinghouse and know what we know about how great that man was.

I want to see electro-magnetic (Zero-point) generators become common place within in my lifetime. I would also like to see the general population decrease, and not by genocide. I'd like to think the general populous, and TPTB have learned from our previous mistakes. I pray and meditate on the fact that the human race can make a giant intellectual leap, even if it's only on faith.

[Maia Gabrial]

I think I'll wait for the free energy devices Ralph Ring and his people are developing.... No danger at all and free....

[sygh]

That's fine with me!!!!!!!!! The sooner, the better!

http://bluestarenterprise.com/

[DeDukshyn]

then just plug it into one of your wall sockets,
Don't do that while you are still connected to the grid -- that current from your inverter will not be in phase with the current from the grid.

Don't do that with more than about 10 or 15 amps, in an ordinary wall socket, or your risk of burning down the house from an electrical fire, caused by an overloaded wire connection somewhere, starts to rise noticeably.

Don't do that in general, unless you, or whomever you've hired to do it, understands wiring and electricity and the proper use of the ordinary tools, connectors, boxes, conduits, breakers, fuses, wiring, switches, and such you'll be working with.

Agreed with all Paul says here - However there are incentives here in Canada (at least in Alberta, maybe elsewhere) that allow one to add solar panels and wind turbines to their house and the "grid" with the support of the electrical companies. I'm pretty sure that the electric companies are gaining from this as well as the way it is set up - any extra power you can produce that you house does not immediately need feeds into the grid. So you're basically giving them some free energy (maybe there is a required percentage - not sure the details). I never really looked into it much because I would not be allowed a wind generator or solar panels on my current residence anyway, but the initiative sounded interesting.

[sygh]

The only reason I know this is possible is because we've done it, and we were taught that we could do this safely by our electrical instructor who has 25 years of experience working with AC.

[DouglasDanger]

I think I'll wait for the free energy devices Ralph Ring and his people are developing.... No danger at all and free....

Little voice in my head says Find out what that energy comes from first... if a zero point energy device is being hidden as a Soul Source drain.. the energy may not being coming from nothing, you could be sucking or vampiring a source of energy that is the souce of a races soul or an energy entity that wil not be happy about it..... subspace is not well known to us, what is creating this free energy still needs to be examined further IMHO...

[sygh]

DouglasDangler;

That's quite a bit of food for thought. Funny, though I've looked at energy in a lot of ways, including life force, I hadn't thought of electromagnetic generation as being a negative vortex for living energy. Different life frequencies higher, lower, other dimentions. If that was the case though, wouldn't any use of generated electromagnetics be a soul source drain too?

[DeDukshyn]

I think I'll wait for the free energy devices Ralph Ring and his people are developing.... No danger at all and free....

Little voice in my head says Find out what that energy comes from first... if a zero point energy device is being hidden as a Soul Source drain.. the energy may not being coming from nothing, you could be sucking or vampiring a source of energy that is the souce of a races soul or an energy entity that wil not be happy about it..... subspace is not well known to us, what is creating this free energy still needs to be examined further IMHO...

That might be a bit like saying "Stop moving because you might squish a bug". However I could see the "Elite in the know" who control the energy companies maybe coming up with something that would give complete disregard or even purposely drain another's energy source, not the guy who's trying to get free energy out there - something to consider, nonetheless. I wish Tesla was still alive - he'd now exactly how to proceed - many claim he was tapped into the collective and could communicate with other "beings" besides humans ..

[Simonm]

The trouble with renewable is that they are only as good as the weather allows! Wind power can generate several GW of power, providing the wind blows at a set speed FOREVER!! Solar power is only good during daylight hours. What a bout a very calm dark night? Nothing generated and then you have to turn to the National grid (UK) again. So you STILL have to have coal / oil / gas powered power station as backup, ergo, no saving of CO2. Ironically, since the world carbon taxes came in and a mass move to reduce CO2 has actually increased!!

I agree that fitting ALL dwellings with solar panels would be a great reduction on domestic co2 production, but in a lot of cases the cost would be far too inhibitive. As much as people don't want to hear it. Nuclear is the only way to power the planet, at present, without the CO2 production everyone is so scared of.