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Unified Serenity
15th October 2011, 15:43
Be careful of well orchestrated demonstrations that look like it's from the people. I see Animal Farm and a New World Order arising. The Hegelian Dialectic is in motion here, and we all want change. I love the following video, but I wonder if this is really about our freedom or our impending slavery ramped up to a whole new level.

Check out:


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Now watch:

The Hegelian dialectic: Problem(Crisis) Reaction, Solution. The NWO tool of choice.


By travellerev
"How does the ruling elite get what they want? Simple. They create a crisis, everybody gets scared and then they present the “solution”. In the case of their privatisation agenda of the National government these last few weeks the ACC “Crisis” is a case in point."

Here is how it works:

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Unified Serenity
15th October 2011, 16:09
Well worth watching how things may be getting set up per David Icke:

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Now we are talking about Iran again as the bad guy and it could easily be another war.


Occupy Wall Street the Hegelian Global Agenda

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risveglio
15th October 2011, 16:13
The first video is very interesting. Olbermann, Paul and Napolitano in the same video? You could not find more polar opposites on solutions. Direct democracy scares the @#$% out of me though as I know I will fall in the 49% more often than not. I am not sure what to think about this movement but I see it being co-opted. I hope I am wrong because I don't want my children growing up under the same control system that my parents and grand parents lived under.

eaglespirit
15th October 2011, 16:21
NOT This Time...Just My Humble Opinion/FEELING!!!

Too many People like me...yes, like me...putting Energy into this.

And there are ALOT of 'like mes" out there and actively-selflessly putting real effort into this 'right now' change.

And if anybody takes this the wrong way...so be it...it is now well beyond all of that!

The "trickle up" theory is now in working order....THEY will NOT infiltrate or distort this movement.

This movement is creating Our Very Own 'in their face' media...live...and it will continue...one way or another...and the only way is up and out of ALL the falsities and onto a new way of being....NO government or politics or religion as we know of them....going, going, gone!!!

Unified Serenity
15th October 2011, 16:26
I hope you are right eaglespirit, but I don't trust Obama, and I see this as another step towards the anarchy they long for to get to their solutions.

THIRDEYE
15th October 2011, 16:26
i think this movement with ows needs a bit more scrutiny....im at a point where thiers alot of conjecture going around...for instance youve got benjamin fulldord and david wilcock hand in hand and seem to be the only too poeple that really have anything to say about the western cabal takedown...if this is the case im all for it..what bothers ne if this cabal goes down and a new monetary system is put in place..how will the poeple dependent on the goverment make it...senior citizens,disables and so on...what will our economic structure look like...these are some of the questions i have and also i would hope the white dragon society has a back up plan for when the western cabal is taken down... just some food for thought....light love and abundance...thirdeye...

eaglespirit
15th October 2011, 16:32
I hope you are right eaglespirit, but I don't trust Obama, and I see this as another step towards the anarchy they long for to get to their solutions.

He is pretty irrelevant...once again , imho, the anarchy really is falling apart...inclusive of "penetrating" politics and economics.
It will not get in our mass consciousness/psyche any more to do what it 'use to' do!

And I respect Your "be careful" approach, Unified Serenity.

Something very different is going on...the likes of which has NOT occurred before now!

Fred Steeves
15th October 2011, 16:36
Wow, that's quite the combination in the first video United Serenity, Judge Napolitato and Keith Olberman. Anyway, if you're willing to stand on stage for more rotten fruit, I'll join ya, although I'm not sure if there's really any new points to be made on this, so maybe I'll just mention the so called "Arab Spring". As a quick sidenote, I found it interesting that the term got coined about as fast as Bin laden got blamed for 9/11. Can anyone tell me what positive changes have happened in the Middle East, besides military control and a lot of sweet nothings about the future. Please don't mention Libya...

A book came out more then two years ago called "The Coming Insurrection", and it described exactly what is happening now. The stated end game was basically to finally bring in world wide communism as the answer to all our woes. Sounds like a New World Order to me, and many good people will be misled into demanding it.

Not me. This needs to be about raised consciousness, not more tired old political "reform", or increasing demands of hopelessly corrupt governments.

Cheers,
Fred

eaglespirit
15th October 2011, 16:41
i think this movement with ows needs a bit more scrutiny....im at a point where thiers alot of conjecture going around...for instance youve got benjamin fulldord and david wilcock hand in hand and seem to be the only too poeple that really have anything to say about the western cabal takedown...if this is the case im all for it..what bothers ne if this cabal goes down and a new monetary system is put in place..how will the poeple dependent on the goverment make it...senior citizens,disables and so on...what will our economic structure look like...these are some of the questions i have and also i would hope the white dragon society has a back up plan for when the western cabal is taken down... just some food for thought....light love and abundance...thirdeye...

Hi Third Eye...
That will be taken care of...the best way possible under the circumstances, imho....and we will help, each of us that can. This transition has been thought out by some very good people that we are not hearing about, nor will we. This transition must take place rather quickly...the collapse of the house of cards is going on as I type and we are going to ride it so that the change, to each of us contributing what we are able in real time...will occur expediently!
Alot of People that seem to be on the wrong side of this equation will be changing guard abruptly...so to speak, imho!
They will decide to help the changes unfold in very good and unexpected ways!

nottelling
16th October 2011, 01:27
There's a propaganda war happening right now. The left-wing extremist voices you hear actively seek out the limelight - I've seen it first hand. Mainstream Media latches onto it because it fits their pre-conceived notion of what's happening within the Occupy movement. Opponents of the movement chop out and broadcast clips from streaming video which suit their own prejudice or agenda.

Here's the thing - a left-wing extremist gets as much "airtime" at a General Assembly as right-wing extremist would, which is exactly the same amount that you or I get. A lot of people can't get their head around the dynamics of "decisionmaking" within the movement because it's literally all-inclusive. This movement falls outside the paradigm and that makes it frightening for some people.

No decision is made and acted upon without consensus. Trust in the people like you or I. All it takes is one person to disagree - I disagree often. If you're unhappy about how your local occupation is portraying itself, then get down there, air your concerns and make a difference. Unlike the government electoral systems worldwide, your vote/consensus/agreement really does count.

jjjones
16th October 2011, 02:42
Friends, looking at this situation from afar and close up, i have come to the conclusion until each one of us realize the horrific game that the elite jerks play called problem reaction and solution," We Are The Weapons Of Mass(PEOPLE) Destruction, not the guns, war machines, nuclear weapons, bio chemical, etc without the masses/people to use their PRODUCTS including fiat money they would have to play the game among themselves. without PAWNS there would be NO GAME TO PLAY. I am very skeptical regarding Occupy WALL STREET/ Federal reserve/private world banks, they ALL need to be sent home and nobody play their game. Who did start this 99% ? why is it so vague? I say be careful we are treading on thin ice. May the positive energy of the universe guide us and fill us with awareness. remember the elites favorite words are CHAOS & CONTROL. namaste, peace and love universally

Wind
16th October 2011, 03:13
Yes. It is our time now!

Human consciousness is evolving. And so is our DNA. Embrace the love that is coming to us at these hard times. All we truly need is love!


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witchy1
16th October 2011, 03:53
I figure doing NOTHING is NOT an option. Ideally those at the top of the food chain need to exit the planet by whatever means possible. If that cannot be achieved, then their power supply needs to be severed. This means chopping off the money supply via the banks they own. They are nothing without money absolutely powerless.

If we dont DO something now our ability to effect change will diminish within a short time, we will have no rights left and we will commit our very own generations to lives of servitude. (if they live that long)

This is our test, this is what we are here for. The time is now to make a better place for our future generations. We have all felt it coming. Make them proud of us. We are the generation of significant change.

Our off planet brothers and sisters are watching to see if we can take responsibility and have the courage and ability to stand up and manage ourselves. They will not step in, this is our game. We must win it and it must be done peacefully, we do not want to incite violence and riot. That will only give them what they want and anticipate - this gives them the power they are longing for - to act against us and fill up the camps. When we have shown that we are worthy, then and only then will they will then come and assist us

It has started.....we have no choice but to act and voice our committment to a better way of living. Get out from behind our computers and do something - anything - support by whatever means possible.

*off soapbox*

witchy1
16th October 2011, 04:08
We Are The Weapons Of Mass(PEOPLE) Destruction, not the guns, war machines, nuclear weapons, bio chemical, etc without the masses/people to use their PRODUCTS including fiat money they would have to play the game among themselves. without PAWNS there would be NO GAME TO PLAY.

Hi jjjones, we are in this game because we had no choice. We did not see it coming, nor did we ask for it to happen. We placed our trust in a democratic process, with people and a process that has failed us all. We all did what we thought was the right thing. We now know we have been sucked in and are paying the very heavy price now. A poisoned planet, war and corruption, appalling health and education, black ops and significant information that is being kept from us - the list goes on and on.

The Corporations run the Governments - they are the evil despotic manipulators of humanity.

We are NOT the WMD, they are - the ruling 1% elite and it is time for it to stop. We "the pawns" simply didn't realise it until now, but we must be heard and it must be peaceful. We have the power by virtue of numbers.

Remember the only thing they are scared of is an uprising, of people converging - they cannot control that. We are many, they are few.

Writing to the ministers doesnt work, voting out governments doesnt work, boycotting products doesnt work, taking them to court doesnt work. Is there something else that you could suggest that might work? Coz Im all out of ideas.

PS - the clock is ticking, so if you have a rabbit in that hat - now would be a good time to pull it out.