Lindsey Williams - Jeff Rense 13 October 2011

[norman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9JwiXLTlA

Pastor Lindsey Williams is back after nearly 4 months of absolute silence with no radio interviews.

Finally Pastor Lindsey Williams is back with more explosive revelations from his sources.

Here are some key points:

The Elite are scared of a divine intervention that will happen in 2012 , they do not know what it is , 2012 will be the most unusual and event full year in 2000 years ,

The elite want to create massive debt before they have a crash , the elite want to create the type of debt you see in Greece in every country in the world and they want to create it before they bring about the crash , the name of the game is CONTROL

Greece is going to default , the elite are buying the Greece bonds because they know that when Greece defaults for all practical reasons they will own that country , the elite want to control countries , it is globalism in its most despotic sense.

They want every city in America to declare bankruptcy.

By the end of 2012 all private fortunes will be lost that are secured with PAPER , you must secure your assets , The elite have secured their assets in Gold and Silver and they do not have them in paper , Bonds 401Ks Shares fiat currencies etc....

Syria will be the next country in the Middle East to fall their plan for the middle east is 3 months behind because of Gaddafi.

Social Security welfare checks and food stamps will not be cut off UNTIL the US will default on its debt and that will be in 2 to 3 years.

The elite do not want riots and civil unrest this Occupy Wall street is not what the elite want ....(?)

Fear is one of their tactics and they are using it from now to 2012 , fear shuts down the human brain , they want your brains shut down.

America will be like Greece within 3 years.

There is right now immense discord amongst the elite of the world ....

They know that there is something very unusual that will happen in 2012 something in the spiritual realm , they do not know what.

The elite have a devil's Messiah in program for 2012.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9JwiXLTlA

[norman]

Here is Evelyn DeRothschild actually confirming that he's OUT of raw banking and INTO Government Bonds !

Although he's a crafty slippery Bullsh**ter, check this video at 3:20 and 4:15 for his own words.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fw1RMKWypo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fw1RMKWypo

[jackovesk]

Thanks for this (Must Know) Information Norman,

Elite's Insider Statement - Directly told to Lindsey by Ken Fromm 3 Yrs Ago:


"By the End of 2012, every 'Private Fortune' in the USA will be Lost that are secured with Paper..!"

i.e. IRA, 401k, Mutual Funds, if its written on a piece of 'Paper' is only woth the 'Paper its Written On'..!



Lindsey's Cure:

Secure your Assets immediately, you must do something about it Right-Now..!

i.e. Get Rid of Your Debt & Paper Assets ASAP - Buy Gold & Silver - Stock up on Food, etc...

On October 1st 2011: The US Mint sold 737,000 1 Ounce Silver Eagles In 1 Day (The Elites are shoring up their Assets in Gold & Silver)

[norman]

Here's another one from the day after:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBwG6dC50SU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBwG6dC50SU

[christian]

Here is Evelyn DeRothschild actually confirming that he's OUT of raw banking and INTO Government Bonds!

This is very significant. When a government can no longer cover its bonds, the investors won't get any money, but the country's assets will be claimed, as happening in Greece! Not such a bad deal after all. - Caveat: This will only succeed if the 99% will play by these rules.

[norman]

If I look back to check what Lindsey said was on the agenda for the middle east take-down program, there seems to have been a hichup.

In June Linsey was saying that the next target after Libya was Yemen.

Now he's saying that they are running about 3 months late and that the next target is Syria !

So does it mean they are on the ropes ?

Here is a re-check back to June:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkziHY1kLaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v8JqSYxL8U

[norman]

Joining the dots here a little.

I've been slow to wake up to the real dynamics of the situation. The well publicised LIST of countries to fall will have added a threat factor to some leaders. The President of Yemen was evacuated to Saudi Arabia after what we were told was a kinetic assault on his residence. He was away for 3 months. In that time he's had a chance to decide what he wants to do in the face of a mighty jackboot even bigger than his own little one.

There are numerous references to the status of the Yemen leadership.



http://www.euronews.net/2011/02/02/yemeni-president-to-stand-down/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15229170


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15121110


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15230653 (video)



http://www.france24.com/en/20110930-president-saleh-unrest-coup-mansur-hadi-yemen-al-ahmar (video)


It looks to me like the guy has been in Saudi Arabia for a very long time and has had a lot of consultation. He will step down, then, he won't step down, then he will again, etc etc.

Over all, it's looking very likely that he's done some deal with the PTB and is just having second thoughts as he returns to his old comforts.

The tick is probably already in the YEMEN box, hence the move forward to the SYRIA box. No signs yet of a deal there, but, let's see. Qaddafi did a great job of putting up a resistance but the eventual defeat will have swayed minds further on down the list. We can probably expect less actual fighting from here on because the dealing will have got going in earnest by now.

Saudi Arabia is still a mind boggling thought though. When that does eventually go, expect a rapid acceleration of madness including the American default and the following knee jerk from the US bond holders.

[Lord Sidious]

And if ''they'' pass laws saying that you have to surrender your gold, silver or whatever?
What then?
They did that all over in the 30's.

[norman]

And if ''they'' pass laws saying that you have to surrender your gold, silver or whatever?
What then?
They did that all over in the 30's.



I've had 3 people in about 3 months at my door asking if I've got any old gold jewelry I want to sell.

I think that's the best way to buy it. You can keep it quiet and hide it.

[ThePythonicCow]

On October 11,2011, the day after talking on Jeff Rense's show, Lindsey Williams went on Goldseek Radio with Chris Waltzek, to say pretty much the same thing. This version is 1 hour 2 minutes long, and consists almost entirely of just Lindsey talking. You can find the show description and Youtube link at http://metalmadnesstv.blogspot.com/2011/10/lindsey-williams-chris-waltzek-oct-11.html

Here's the Youtube video itself (and a picture of Lindsey from many years ago :)):
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I'm figuring that Lindsey is telling us some useful and correct information here, and the "elite" (as he calls them) are allowing him to say this for a reason.

I am fairly convinced that Lindsey is right when he says that the elite intend to get the Western nations, states, cities, and banks in as deep a debt as possible, and that they then intend to foreclose on that monumental debt, taking control (ownership, essentially) of almost everything.

Since most businesses and home "owners" are in debt to banks, and since a deliberately caused depression will cause most of them to be unable to make debt payments, the banks will own most businesses and homes. Since the banks themselves will be too far in debt to the elite who intentionally bailed the banks out, the elite will indirectly own most homes and businesses as well.

All this is done for the purpose of control. The elite intend for their New World Order to control most of human civilization, including its peoples, their publicly visible governments, corporations and religions, and their property and future income and tax revenue streams.

The key thing to focus on in the above is debt. Money is created by issuing debt, and that debt is being piled higher and deeper, and being aggressively centralized.

Do not look at the money in the right hand; look at the debt in the left hand. For in the final analysis, it is the primary lien holder of that debt who controls the property used as collateral.

So long as the economy supports a sufficient cash flow, the debtor considers that they own the collateral (home, business, road, income or tax revenue streams, whatever, ...) But if the economy enters a depression, cash flows dry up, and the primary lien holder on the debt owns the collateral. The courts, police and on an international scale armies enforce this reliably.

There is related twist to this as well. Even if the property is paid off, if the "owner" cannot pay his taxes, he also loses ownership ("control") of the property, to whatever government demanded the tax.

The economic history of the last couple centuries (at least) informs us that the elite can and will cause an economic depression when it suits them.

So, barring some miracle, this is the order of events for the next few years:

Further stunning, massive, accumulation of debt, with individuals, businesses, cities, states, nations, banks and the Federal Reserve increasingly deep in debt, and the elite as primary lien holders.
Crash the economy forcing a depression, beginning perhaps in the second half of 2012. At this point, many private fortunes invested in debt paper evaporate.
Then for approximately two to four years, national governments continue to provide a subsistence level of existence with welfare, medicare, food stamps and social security payments. During this period, cities, states and businesses will go bankrupt. Individuals wil fail to pay debts or taxes in order to eat. The collateral of all these will be foreclosed on.
Then (perhaps sometime between 2014 and 2016) the United States will be forced to default on its immense debt, causing the US Dollar to collapse
This opens the door for the New World Order's currency, and associated world monetary, political, police, military, legal and tax system.

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So why am I, an atheist for over a half century, listening to a Southern Bible Belt Pastor for reliable economic futures? And if Lindsey has called this correctly, why is he still alive and talking?

I suspect Lindsey has been tasked as a shepherd to help guide American Christians through this transition, and to reduce the threat that they pose to the elite's plan for a New World Order. Those likely to listen to him, such as my neighbors who are Southern Bible Belt Christians, might use this information to help themselves, but will not use this information to stop the debt accumulation and centralization or subsequent depression. However the faithful of all the major religions need to be nullified, as they do pose a threatening opposition to a New World Order.

I suspect that there will be a stunning light show in the second half of 2012, which only those who have followed the deep black ops capabilities of the elite will guess the real cause of. The rest will see this show as a manifestation of God or of aliens, depending on which cover story they have bought into.

I suspect Lindsey is helping to pre-program American Christians to see this light show as a manifestation of their Christian God. Though I don't have a specific guess as to how, I'm figuring this will provide the elite substantially increased control over that group of people. Lindsey's reputation is being built up, with accurate predictions of a subset of coming events, as might be seen from the viewpoint of a Christian American, so as to reinforce the tendency that those people will "believe" that light show is a manifestation of their God.

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A few, including many on this forum, have an awareness of higher levels of spirituality. No doubt other streams of disinformation are being "channeled" to lead these people astray as well.

[mosquito]

This is a far more plausible scenario than some of the things we've been served up recently.

Re: gold and silver, what's the point in having supplies of these metals if there's no way of exchanging them ?

Whatever's coming - get yourselves debt free !

[Snowbird]

As much as I respect Pastor Williams, and I do respect him, I have a very difficult time sitting through one of his information sessions. Therefore, thank you Paul for the great summary!!

[gripreaper]

I have inside information from an elite who was the CEO of an oil company.... who must remain anonymous, but he tells me everything...
I filter through the context of religion (the elite have used religion for 1000 of years) to explain whats happening and make prophesy true....
2012 is going to be the worst year in 2000 years....

But, don't forget to buy my DVD set that I just finished! Operators are standing by 24 hours a day to take your money!

ROFLMAO!!! Fear mongering and marketing at it's finest!

[crosby]

the deal is already done on silver and gold. there is no more to ponder. the united states was sold out several years ago. all is lost.
corson

[Lord Sidious]

the deal is already done on silver and gold. there is no more to ponder. the united states was sold out several years ago. all is lost.
corson

The process began before the revolution and was completed probably in the late 60's or early 70's.

[ThePythonicCow]

As much as I respect Pastor Williams, and I do respect him, I have a very difficult time sitting through one of his information sessions. Therefore, thank you Paul for the great summary!!

Pastor Lindsey Williams himself I've little respect for. I just listened to his latest DVD that he's selling; someone uploaded it to Youtube. He shares the time with a guy selling financial planning advice; and unless you're stuck in the particular set of cultural prejudices common to Bible belt (Southern US) Christians, it will have little or no positive appeal. I did not hear any more detail on economic forecasts.

I think he's being used, to deliver a particular message to a particular segment of the US population.

I just figure that portions of that particular message are actually useful clues to what is planned by the "elite". The name of the game is control, and it's the debt, not the money, that is a key lever of that control. Get 'em deep in debt, then cut off the cash flows required to make payments, delivering them and all they thought they "owned" and all their future income and tax revenue streams into your hands.