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ROMANWKT
19th October 2011, 19:29
MANIFESTING IN THE MATRIX

It’s all nonsense: part 2.

Please read part 1 first, makes more sense, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1

This is not a doctrine or a philosophy; make of it what you will. I am only sharing with you what I had found out after years of searching and reading of the physical, mental and spiritual which were eventually the tools that in the end I had to dump, which I did.

I cannot go into details about all that I cover here as I’m not writing a book, this is just for us here on Avalon.

We are manifestors, the creators of our reality. We as humanity have been divided as to weaken our consensus to manifest the reality that we all seek. The divisions are basically through different religious, political, racist and tribal systems around the world that are governing beliefs and creating a divided consensus. Beliefs are the essence of all manifestations and creation on this plane through the gateway of the subconscious mind.

We all have governing beliefs that were imposed and accepted by us as children and even now as adults these beliefs are very deeply seated in our subconscious mind and are fixed there until our death.

The subconscious is a recorder and is part of your survival kit, a manifestor of all that you would ever need to sustain yourself in this illusion.

And the subconscious also remembers, reminds, and warns you so you don’t continue to make dangerous mistakes, which could lead to your extinction from this reality.

All religions are targeted to indoctrinate the first 7 years of life of any child. The basic limiting factors are set in the subconscious by that time making the child look outside of itself for guidance, i.e.: gods, survival and manifesting.

If indoctrination was not given by any religious authority by that time, the results will still be the same as the parents pass this on because of their own indoctrination by the system or their parent. There is no escape, it’s a vicious circle.

The children grow up knowing nothing of what they are and what this reality really is. The children will be directed to ask a “god” to help them through life so that they can attain love, health, prosperity and happiness, and it will be the WILL of a “god” that these things will manifest for them.

Believing in a “god” is not a problem. BELIEVING IN A “god” OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF IS! And so the damage is done.

Who in their right mind would make a young, impressionable child kneel in front of a battered corpse nailed to beams of wood asking the child to pray for forgiveness for being a sinner? What kind of impression would that child have for the rest of its life of not only of a “god”, but of humanity?

You will be directed to pray to replicas of human beings called “gods or saints” and in turn these statues will ask a “god” on your behalf to get what you want in this life. The design of this nonsense is by the very clever Brotherhood, it is set-up to re-direct your powers away from YOU. This very same method is used against you with money, as you can’t get what you want in life unless you have the Brotherhood’s money.

So now everybody is praying to idols of fiction or the use of superstition asking for lots of fiat toilet paper so that they can get what they desire. They will work and slave for the rest of their life to achieve that end.

In part one the emphasis was on your blocks to your power. All the worldwide systems are designed to block you mentally, spiritually and physically in order to reduce your powers of self determination; otherwise, you are not a controllable entity for them as a slave to THEIR vision of THEIR consensus for THEIR Empire.

They are the masters of division by any means, way, shape or form.

Hence, a divided humanity is a weak divided consensus, so the only reason that we live on a hell planet or a prison planet is that humanity has given their power and consensus to them for thousands of years.
If we understand that this reality is an illusion, a condensation of consciousness, we start to realize what a stupendous fraud was perpetrated on humanity by some very clever people who understood how they could place themselves above humanity and create a very clever ideology of falsehood that would enslave humanity forever.

Let’s take an imaginary trip into consciousness.

Let’s imagine that you are reading this on your screen and you are focusing your consciousness into that room, the screen. Now imagine taking a few steps back and close an imaginary door and now you are in the room that your computer resides in. Now walk back out of this room and close the door and now you are in the rest of your house. Now imagine walking back again into your bedroom and close the door, now lie down on your bed.

While you are lying on the bed and relaxing, the brain starts to slowly shut off; all your senses, one by one. Your breath is slowly getting shallower and you feel that you are slipping away from your body. Slowly, your feelings start to disappear, you don’t really know where your hands and feet are, your sense of smell is diminishing and you no longer have any taste in your mouth. Your hearing is diminishing slowly, images are passing by in your mind and your eyes are slowly beginning to close. Images are now more dominant, but seem to just flow on and on. Now that this door is shutting, we’ll move on backwards.

You are now in your mind and nothing has changed. You are walking down a high street looking for your wife and children as they are doing their weekly shopping and you’ve come to help and drive them back home. You see your family and start to run towards them. Your body on the other hand does not move because your brain is shutting down your nervous system, in fact your whole body is now in a state paralysis and all your movements are mental, in your mind only.

If you kept yourself conscious while the brain was shutting your system down you would experience an OBE (out of body experience). You are now in what is called the astral. You have all your faculties and functions and more, but every thought materializes instantaneously. You still have all the function of intention and you still have all and every emotion of love, fear, etc.

Now step back again from this reality and close the door. You find yourself hardly conscious, you feel or you think you feel part of all that is. You can’t define anything as individual; all is and all seems to “just be”. You feel you are all there is, yet seem to be nothing but a dot. A full stop and yet everything is still in a state of potential.


Now let’s step back and close this door. Now all is nothingness and oblivion. There is light, but, and that’s a big but, you are still a potential, a dot, a full stop. Step back and close this door.

BLANK

Imagine being a potential, a dot again. Where would that potentiality come from? Some would say from the source of all things. Some call it God, fine no problem. Are you in a state of going TO or coming FROM a state of potentiality?

This is important. Are you going into or are you coming out of that state of potentiality? Well can you come from nothingness? Or is there something, a force, a spark behind your potentiality. Most would say we are coming from something, a source, and not from “nothing” to the source.

Therefore, you have a source as your potentiality behind you, the dot.

Now step forward and open a door in front of you with your potentiality and never close that door again, ever.

The reason why we went through the doors was to backup and show you that there could not be anything outside of yourself. From the dot stage our consciousness expands into a “mind realm” of the astral and on further expansion into a “mind realm” of condensed consciousness we call The Matrix.

On close inspection of condensed consciousness, it is a mathematically based reality, as is the Earth and the Universe in this realm of mind. It’s a creation. It’s a realm of mental construct, a mind created playground, which makes us think of this creation as a reality, which it is not.

From every blade of grass right up to the universe, it is not a power unto itself. It is of consciousness, just like your body and every single strand of hair on your head. All animate and inanimate is consciousness, everything, every single thing. There is no power outside of itself here for the source is everything and everything is source, every single speck of dust is source, condensed consciousness.

There is nothing that is above or below you in status here. There is nothing that is more sacred or divine here that is either above or below you. There are no “gods” or powers here that are above or below you, all is equal, all is one, all is in this condensed conscious reality.

You are a conscious being with a mind that can co-create its reality here.

You have the faculties to manipulate this illusion and manifest your thoughts into condensed consciousness, i.e.: matter. You were not given a power of potentiality, you are that power, you are of source and so is everything in this reality. Everything is source.

There is no power greater or lesser than you that is outside of you on this plane. And you are no greater or lesser than any other creation on this plane. All is source and all power resides from within. There is nothing outside of itself, or by itself. You are part of all that is, all is consciousness.

We return every night in sleep into a mental realm of the astral and return to a condensed consciousness reality every morning called Earth, where our illusionary biological suit awaits us. Masters have been telling people for thousands of years that this realm that we call reality is an illusion, it’s a mental plane created by mind. It is condensed consciousness.

Our suit, the body, can feel only through our senses that are connected to the brain and all your reality is translated by the brain. The brain makes this reality feel solid by the resonating frequency that each texture of condensed consciousness emits.

The higher the frequency, the finer and softer the feel that the brain translates. The lower the frequency, the harder and more rigid the feel that the brain translates. You and everything, including the Earth and Universe, are a mass of resonating frequencies called condensed consciousness, stemming from consciousness.

When out of body (OBE) in the astral, your resonating frequency will be higher and above that of Earth. Your mind is not your brain. Your mind is on a far higher frequency than the brain. Your mind just walks through this reality and this reality is no barrier to the mind. You can walk through walls and mountains, you can walk under the sea, you can explore the universe, you can create anything and everything instantaneously. You create a mental duplicate in the astral of this world and the universe. Therefore, is the astral a continuation of a creation, The Matrix????

Why do you go to sleep? It is said to recharge you. For most people who stop themselves from sleeping for too long this illusion starts to fall apart. We see that we cant sustain this reality continuously.

Stop yourself from sleeping without drugs for 2 or 3 days then watch and listen to what will begin to happen. All sorts of things will try to tear you out of your body, to the astral, try it. Why do you think the system is so against people taking natural hallucinogens? Is it because these people will eventually realize that this worldly reality is nothing but the working of mind and the sterile materialism sold to all of us on a daily basis?

That this is a false reality perpetuated by corrupt ideology that is forced down our throats from every established world system? (corporate, economic, military, religious, educational, judicial, etc.)

You have the capacity to store great energy that keeps your connection strong while in your body. This energy used by a focused mind with an intention will bring results. One of the most powerful emotions that we all possess is sexual. Understanding and use of this energy brings health, longevity and emotional balance in one’s life.

The whole of the western system is designed to deplete you of this important energy. It is designed to keep you locked in the 3 chakras below your belt. Masters throughout all ages have always taught to centre yourself from the heart. The 3 chakras above the heart are of mind, the 3 chakras below the heart is of earth or ground; the centre of us all is the heart.

Deal in all things with the heart, not the mind. And not from the material or ground.

Those that resist the temptation to deplete themselves can, with correct balance, attain kundalini. Countless people throughout the world achieve this state without realizing what is happening to them.

There is no past or future, all is now, all is present only. The mind remembers and that is what you think is your past. There is no future, only a constant stream of now. Imagine standing in the middle of 3 squares. The square behind you is your past (a memory), the square you are standing in is your present/now, the square in front of you is your future. When you focus on your past (a recorded memory) you are bringing it into your present/now, which will become your future again (from the past). When you focus on the future it will always be in the future; you will never get there. Whatever you focus on in the present/now will then become your future. There is only now.

Your subconscious mind is your programmed memory. All the disinformation that you have been indoctrinated with is now on autopilot from your subconscious mind, which is constantly projecting into the present/now and is creating the future for you automatically.

It is your beliefs in the garbage that’s been impressed on you which are the limiting factors to manifesting your wants, needs and desires. So whatever your subconscious mind - on autopilot - is projecting now to the present, will become your future over and over again.

And this is how they’ve got the whole of humanity by their ba££$!

By indoctrinating all of us with bu££$hit, which works perfectly well because all is a mind’s creation. And even bu££$hit on this plane is a reality, everything is. All is possible here in this illusion, this condensed consciousness, this creation. So again I will ask you as I did in part one: What is a truth and what is a lie? What is right and what is wrong?

NOTHING! It’s all a creation. It’s what you BELIEVE in which manifests here for you as a limited indoctrinated reality and is a creation and nothing else.

This bring me to a subject that was restarted on Avalon yesterday; eleven pages long by our Pie'n'eal, Tony, to those that know him. This thread was started in May 2011 and was brought back up Headed “The earth does not have a consciousness”. Well it’s 14 pages long today and only some got the message or understood what our learned friend is saying.

I rang and had a chat with Tony saying here we go again, as I did participate on the first run with his thread. Tony knows that I have never been happy with the word Karma and also told him I was not happy with cause and effect, for both could not exist. So Tony with his matter of fact approach said, “yes, they don’t exist”; “it’s the belief in their existence that is a Karma”.

Well, slap, bang, wallop, my mind went as I immediately integrated that into my system of understanding as you have read above.

BLOCKS! Psychological blocks is what I have always dealt with concerning reality. Blocks will not permit you to manifest many things in your life because you have a wrong misplaced belief about them in your subconscious mind. It is the belief in what is NOT that create blocks/karma. How about that? Thank you, Tony, very much; it seems Buddhism is making sense to me now… hehehe, (that’s my dirty laugh).

So to conclude about the Earth being conscious, the answer is No. It’s not conscious, as one would put it because the earth is a consciousness. It is part of you and me, it’s a condensed consciousness, part of all that is. It’s a creation; it’s not a power unto itself. It’s not some “god” that you should revere. You don’t worship an illusion that’s a part of your consciousness!

And this Gaia crap allowing us to feast on mother’s body, it’s an illusion -- condensed consciousness -- as all creation is. Gaia worship is just some new age bu££$hit trying to separate you from your power again; forcing you to think there is something outside of yourself. It’s nonsense.

Of course you send love and gratitude as you should do to yourself and others, we are all one. We are all there is. Respect all in this illusion as you would respect yourself and others and yes that includes the earth. But to think and treat it as something more special than you, me or anything else is a false belief, and it’s karmic.

Now that we have moved on and expanded a little from part one, there are two beliefs that I want to focus on now, first, which is the law of cause and effect because it’s a nonsense.

Secondly, focusing on false beliefs as a law of karma. These two beliefs are normally linked together to mean one and the same thing. Cause and effect stands as a good example of how the mind would work here in this reality, as mind would be the cause and the effect and would manifest itself here.

Let’s begin by stating that there are no laws here in the illusion. A “cause” would mean that we are projecting a force from within ourselves to outside of ourselves, the “effect”. This cannot be because there is no here and there; there is no inside and outside of oneself. All is mind. All is one. It sounds and feels like the cause is an untouchable element trying to create a touchable element, the effect. One being mental force, the other being material. That cannot be because the mental and the material is one and the same consciousness. There are no rules, no laws, no rights, no wrongs, no truths, no lies. It is a BELIEF made manifest by mind.

I asked you before to imagine being a dot with a potentiality. I asked you to open the door in front of you and never shut it again. The way that this potentiality of source/mind would open that door is by INTENTION.

Intention is the source/mind, WILL, is the CAUSE that manifests a result as an EFFECT in an illusion in the realms of mind. It is mind consciousness, creating condensed consciousness, as our illusionary reality here on our illusionary Earth, our playground.

Karma is an event in consciousness that describes a belief in a mental construct of creation of condensed consciousness, as being real, a reality existing outside of itself. There is a price to pay for deluding yourself into believing that this reality is real. Sorrow and disappointment stand out for me first. This belief in a false reality brings many sorrowful traits that we are all infected/affected/inflicted with; hence, conditional love, anger, fear, pride, lust, apathy, grief, attachment, aversion, ego, greed, lack, wanting, needing, having, discriminating, judging, fear of death, etc.

Karma may seem to behave like a cause and effect or tit for tat. But what it does is create massive blocks in your consciousness here in this reality of condensed consciousness and that is your suffering and sorrow on this plane. If you believe that there is something outside of yourself and you believe it’s real, then that is karma; believing in a false reality. But there again, it’s good ol’ psychological blocks to me.

This list of emotional traits have a major role on your manifesting or rather non- manifesting of your reality as you see fit.

If you believe in past life-regression the only way of my understanding this phenomena would be like this: If regression is real and a hypnotist can really connect deep into the subconscious mind where your past life's memories could be stored, then your karmic/blocks/ traits would still be deep in your consciousness from your last death.

If the subconscious expands into this new life, then yes, you would bring character traits and beliefs from your past life into your rebirth. Your subconscious mind would still be hidden to you and be projecting on autopilot into your present/now. Remember there is only NOW, which means you would bring along karmic/blocks/traits that would be affecting your new life with the same old beliefs as you had before you died.

Now that we see the importance of knowing that our subconscious mind is a memory bank full of specific beliefs, it’s now time to recognize that there is also a higher/self beyond the subconscious that is the doorway of source.

The subconscious mind is a gatekeeper that you have to pass through to get to the higher/self/source for manifesting illusions in this plane. Once a belief is accepted by the subconscious mind (the gatekeeper), that belief moves on to the higher/self/source, which is made manifest as condensed consciousness on this plane for you as a reality, your reality.

Now if you put a load of garbage and disinformation into a child or an adult and it is accepted by the subconscious mind (the gatekeeper), then guess what their life/reality is going to be like? Now do you see why the first seven years of a child’s life is bombarded with false beliefs and limitations?

It’s because a false foundation will be set and accepted by the subconscious mind. It will set the false reality that there is some power or something more powerful outside of us, which is nothing more than a deluded belief, a nonsense. Now you have a like- minded slave, just as the rest of us, for life; given up for the manipulators of this reality.

The VATICAN controls all religions, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and hundreds of other derivatives under different names of a false indoctrination, a false foundation throughout the world, a control mechanism.

The UK (City of London) is the centre of exchange for all the money in the world, a control mechanism.

The US (Washington DC) is the military might, the iron fist, the do as you’re told, a control mechanism.

The Roman Empire never ended; it just split itself into three.

Everything stems from this trinity: Bible, Religion, History, Education, Politics, Media, you name it. They control it all and have been doing so for more than ten thousand years! This is the only bloody Holy Trinity that I know!

Anyway, let’s continue. Now that we understand that the subconscious mind has had a false foundation placed in it and has accepted it and it is now projecting into your present/now, a standardized version of reality, governed and controlled by this Trinity, you may think that it’s not a problem. I'll just change my mind; I'll change my recording. OK do it.

We have all heard and seen the video “The Secret” and possibly read the book too. Another famous book , “How to make friends and influence people”, another “Think and grow rich”. There are thousands of books written on how to change your mind and become a millionaire, all great stuff, and some even gave you a way of removing old mind-sets and replace them with new ones by repetition and visualizing your goals. I will tell you that if 100% bought and read and did these exercises, more than 99.99% would fail, now why is that??

What is it that these people are not telling you? “The Secret” told you just look for what you want, as if from a catalogue. See yourself possessing it and bingo it’s yours. The success rate for this video went into millions that they sold per view or you could buy the video outright and learn the procedure. It was a success, but you will never learn of the failures that “the Secret” had in peoples’ personal lives; now that is a Secret. The only good thing that it did was to wake people up to another reality which was normally not out in the open.

What is a thought? Is it animate or inanimate? Can you touch it? Prod it? No, but you can charge it with a given image. Like a thought of love, a thought of hate, a thought of fear, a thought of happiness, a thought of sickness, a thought of death, and so on.

There is one thing that all these thoughts have in common: they each raise an EMOTION. I write a word, that word creates a thought, that thought creates a corresponding image and emotion to that word… very powerful stuff.

Now you may think, “Where does that emotion come from”? It comes from your memory bank, the subconscious. So everything that I do, think or imagine, which I would have to use as my thoughts, comes from my subconscious, emotionally charged. All images express themselves as feeling an emotion.

Thoughts are emotionally charged images in your mind. Impressing your goals as an emotionally charged image is old school in the positive thinking movement.

All thoughts stored in the subconscious mind are emotionally charged and the ones that had enough charge in them to open the gatekeepers (the subconscious) doors and pass over to the higher/self/source were made manifest in this reality.

This same system is used for magic, white or black, it does not matter. There are no rules here, only self imposed rules. Sex-emotion is used by people, torture-emotion to others. Rituals and murders are used by people to raise great emotions. Children screaming, snuff parties, etc. So who or what would stop this nonsense? Well nobody I know. And what about the moral issues? All morals are self imposed. So who is checking that these criminal and immoral acts are punishable and will be imposed on these people? It has to be you, for there is no one else.

If our “worldly consensus” is to let a bunch idiots run our affairs here in this reality on our behalf, so be it. Well I mean 99% of us against 1% of them; well, it’s not even a match, is it??

So what’s the problem with us all. An emotionally charged fear of death or fear of extinction very deeply impressed into our subconscious? If they knew that hundreds of thousands of people were willing to return back to a dots, to get someone that has returned thousands of people back to dots unnecessarily and painfully, we would be living in a very different world my friends. At this moment in time, you can’t fight these people. One has to literally turn ones back on them and not conform to anything and allow them to crash. They have the resources and I’m sure they will survive longer than us, but they can’t survive this forever.

So, emotions seem to play a very important part in our reality through the charged banks of our subconscious mind. So how did it get there? We know we have thoughts and these thoughts carry emotions in images, but of what? That would be your BELIEFS.

So what is a belief? It’s a figment of your imagination made manifest. When was the first time you heard about sickness? Well now you got it. its been well implanted

When was the first time that you heard about the devil? Well now you got it. he will haunt you now.

When was the first time you heard about the son of god? Well you got it. And now you are answerable to that corpse nailed to beams of wood, err, good luck.

When was the first time you heard that you were a failure? Well you got it.

When was the first time that you heard that you have to have money to live? Well you got it. And so on and so on. An inexhaustible list. Well I hope you get what I am saying.

All these beliefs are by now deeply seated in your subconscious mind, charged with varying levels of emotion.

Now we come to the crux of a very great problem. When you try to change a belief by replacing it with another, the subconscious mind will fight you tooth and nails. It will reject your new belief if it’s to replace a similar one that’s already recorded in the memory bank. So you can repeat and repeat that new belief until you turn blue in the face; you can visualize and visualize until you fall asleep. You will still meet with resistance from your memory bank.

So what is the problem with removing an old belief and replacing it with a new one??

Part one tells you the answer. You are not only dealing with a belief but also an emotion attached to that belief (remember the thought and emotion it triggers). All beliefs have different and varying degrees of emotion attached to them, which means, some are easy to get rid of but many are not.

I have searched for the best way to remove these emotional blocks, that’s what they are called these days. I found mostly all methods to be a hit an’ miss affair. You’re dealing with a subconscious mind, sub means under, hidden consciousness. So you don’t know what to concentrate on or exactly which bit is the obstacle. So I am only interested in a full removal method. EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) comes close to this approach of releasing these emotions tied to events or beliefs.

Many people have had great results with it but because we are dealing with full depth removal of psychological blocks that would restrict manifesting of what you want in your reality. I found that the RELEASE METHOD will take you all the way and beyond if you wish. I found this system after 15 years of searching for myself as the best solution to this problem.

Now the way to release is in part one and I don’t wish to rewrite it here as I have gone too far already.

Now to manifesting. I will first point out one of the biggest misconceptions that we all possess. Let’s take for instance that you want a car. What is the first thing that we do? We look at our bank balance and make a decision on that. If we haven’t the money we start to rummage through our budget to see if we can extract enough money to save for one or buy one on credit. If you haven’t enough money you drop it and forget about it or find a way to start saving for a year or two to put a deposit.

Now I will ask you again, is it a car that you want or is it the money?

You say it’s a car. THEN WHY ARE YOU FOCUSING ON THE MONEY??

Boy, have they got us over a barrel. We are so sold on this money crap that we believe that we cannot move nor do anything without it. It’s nonsense!

The car that you want and anything and everything in this plane is an illusion, a creation. If it’s in your consciousness it’s already yours. That car is you and you are that car. That car is a product of mind and so are you. It’s all condensed consciousness. The only obstacle between the car and you is a misconstrued belief. That belief is a block, karma, because you think it’s outside of yourself, separate, a different reality from yourself that you will buy with another figment of your imagination: Money. I hope this is understood clearly.

The release method is very simple as you can see in part one. It’s not a big deal. But if used properly to remove purposely implanted bu££$it beliefs, you will attract that car to yourself by many and every means possible. Yes, even with money. This is something that you must allow. You must never interfere in how it is going to come to you, never. You don’t interfere with mind for mind can create a further obstacle between you and that car. Leave it alone and allow.

All you have to do is to clear yourself with all the emotional garbage between you and the object of your desire and allow it to come to you without interference. You can have anything and everything that’s in your consciousness. If it hasn’t yet been invented then it’s not in your consciousness, it has no existence yet. So how are you going to attract that unless you invent it yourself, then it will be in all creation’s consciousness.

I'll tell you what, why don’t we invent a germ? Now everybody’s got them. Why don’t we invent fear? That’s a good one. Why don’t we invent the dark side? Wow, that’s dark. Mix that up with a devil, that’s even better. Why don’t we invent an enemy? That should add a bit spice into our lives. And I could go on and on with this garbage that we have placed into our peaceful loving nature of our consciousness.

We start to clear emotional garbage from five different aspects to the problem of a belief/thought.


The first one is ATTACHMENT, attachment to what? You may be thinking attachment to things, to an illusion, be it animate or inanimate. It’s all part of your consciousness, (remember all is one). There is nothing outside of you. Whatever is in your consciousness is part of you and you are part of it. You don’t have to crave and hold onto it with great emotion of losing something that is already yours, a false presumption that something is outside of you and that you could lose it.
Your dear life does not depend on any of it because all things that you attach yourself too are an illusion, and so is your life. Your attachment to anything is a false reality… a big block.


The second one, AVERSION. Aversion to what? All is one and one is all in your consciousness. Having an aversion to anything is like a judgement, an opinion of creation in our consciousness, repelling of things that you don’t like. We share in this illusion this consciousness, we all contribute one way or another be it good or bad. It’s just one’s perspective and view of creation, which we all play a part in, there is nothing that is bad and there is nothing that is good, it just is.

Our shock and dismay at what’s going on in this world of murder and starvation of millions of people I agree is very bad. But we should have put this right a few thousand years ago and never allowed this to happen in the first place. It’s a creation in our consciousness; it’s an illusion. Your aversion to anything is a false reality, a big block.


The third one, APPROVAL, approval of what? Doing, pretending, buying stuff so as to get approval from others and wanting them to think of what a great and fantastic guy you are. Working very hard not to mess-up so that you always have the highest approval. Living in the biggest house, driving the biggest car, it’s a mind thing, a pride thing, it’s being a very highly educated thing, with b.s., bbc, phd, hiv after your name thing. I have to have better than everyone else thing, it’s having to impress everyone thing. Well in consciousness there seems to be a block concerning someone who thinks they are better than any other in this creation, be it race or creed. All are equal, all are one and the same consciousness and there is no separateness of mind or consciousness its a false reality, a big block


The fourth one, CONTROL, control of what? Controlling events especially of others. There is a difference in helping or controlling, doing things so that one has control, buying things for people so as to control, creating events with a view to control, doing anything with a view of controlling.

Remember when I said that you should allow and never interfere in the goings on of how or where these things will come from to you? Your interference, which is mind, will put a screwdriver in the works. Obviously we help with love and compassion to the best of our ability, but you don’t take over somebody’s life. You give them a plough but you don’t plough the fields for them. You give them a fishing rod but you don’t fish for them, a big difference. Anything else is a false reality, a big block.


The fifth one, SECURITY, SAFETY, SURVIVAL, “do what?” Well these three come under the same headings so let’s call them SSS. Precisely which one of these do to you think you can insure yourself against in your mind? Where do you think that insurance will make a difference in consciousness? This is an illusion. What protection do you envisage in a condensed consciousness??

Why does the subconscious mind reject this as a false reality?? What do you think that this rejection means? It can only mean fear.

The subconscious will not allow you to amass anything to do with one, two, or all three of these SSS’s on this plane. Yeah, sure you can leave money for your family when you die via an insurance policy. Yeah, you can dig a hole one mile deep protecting yourself against a catastrophe and survive, but how do you separate the emotions of each one of these that the subconscious would understand and differentiate between safety, survival, or security? The emotions that the three SSS emit are indistinguishable. You have to dump it all to clear yourself. Big block, big time.

DO EVERYTHING AS AN INTENTION ONLY. NO NEEDING, NO WANTING.

So we start.
Sit down and relax, have an image of what you want in your mind. Visualize being and enjoying this image as NOW, there is only now remember.
If it’s a car, sit in it and enjoy everything about it, take your time. Now that you have formed a good feeling and images of what you want, bring up each of the FIVE emotions, starting with ATTACHMENT.
Do you feel that you really, really want it? Open the door between your rib and stomach and gently, no pushing. That emotion does not belong there it will leave you if you give it a chance. So gently ALLOW the coloured smoke that you have chosen to gently leave through your door, you can help it along, but don’t push. Purse you lips as you would gently cooling of a hot cup of soup, gently assisting that smoke to come out of the door. Just as you are running out of breath, just give a little gentle push, your last little gentle effort, then gently stop.

So what are we doing here? We are checking of how much of an attachment you have to this car that you want, any raising emotions about your need and want will bring up that emotion and you open the door and release it. Keep doing this until you feel that there is no emotion left to come up. You do this with all FIVE emotions, all explained above what they mean. Go through each one and release until you feel none of them are bringing anything up. You do this three times a day or more if you want, always gently, no rush, always allowing.

So what are we trying to achieve? You do this until you feel absolutely no emotions about owning that car. You will have no emotion left in any of the five blocks. You will come to a stage where you don’t give a $hit about owning this car. You have cleared yourself with the FIVE emotions on this car at least 3 times a day. You visualize the car and clear yourself with each emotion, keep visualizing even if you don’t give a $hit and ALLOW IT TO COME.



INTENTION IS A DECISION.
THIS IS WHAT I AM HAVING, THIS IS WHAT I WANT.

WITHOUT WANTING AND NEEDING.

RELEASE ALL WANTING AND NEEDING.
IT’S A DECISION TO AN INTENTION.
DECIDE AND DO WITHOUT WANTING AND NEEDING.
WANTING AND NEEDING IS NOT A DECISION, IT’S A FEELING OF NOT HAVING, IT’S A STATEMENT OF LACK.
LACK = WANTING AND NEEDING
WANTING AND NEEDING = LACK

MAKE A DECISION AND RELEASE ALL WANTING, NEEDING, AND LACK
REMOVE BY RELEASING ALL OBSTACLES THAT MIND CREATES

REMOVE MIND FROM ANY EQUATION


ATTACHMENT

AVERSION

APPROVAL

CONTROL

SECURITY
SAFETY
SURVIVAL

LET GO OF WHAT YOU WANT TO PREVENT
THEN YOU WILL NOT HOLD IT IN MIND

THE MIND IS ONLY CREATIVE
AND WILL CREATE WHAT YOU HOLD IN MIND

THE MIND WILL CREATE ESCAPES BY CREATING DIVERSIONS. BY WATCHING TV, HOBBIES, READING, AND MANY OTHER THINGS RATHER THEN TO DO INTENTIONS.

IT WILL STEER YOU AWAY FROM INTENTIONS. THESE ARE THE BLOCKS, THE SABOTEUR OF YOUR INTENTIONS.

IT WILL CREATE ANY ESCAPE POSSIBLE TO REMOVE YOU FROM YOUR INTENTIONS. ANYTHING OTHER THAN FOCUSING ON YOUR INTENTIONS IS AN ESCAPE CREATED BY MIND.
I would like to add of how grateful I am to one of our members here in Avalon, he is PARCIVAL who offered to rewrite part 1 ans 2 in proper Grammar and may I say in English too, that is easier to read and to understand, thank you Parcival I am most grateful to you, its very good.

Please read part 1 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1

another bob
19th October 2011, 20:24
Greetings, Friend!

Thank you for your exploratory efforts! It's helpful to inquire deeply, investigating the mechanics of consciousness from various angles and so forth, and sharing our findings in the process. One thing we may notice when we delve deeply into things is how conditioned the human mind actually is. One of the Zen Buddhist masters I studied with once told me that most aspirants who approach that path require decades of de-programming before they are ready to even begin formal Zen training. That certainly put things in perspective for me. Forty years and considerable work later, I'm still walking around with all sorts of notions, though I carry them much more lightly. When it comes to apprehending whatever appears in consciousness, I've skinned it down to: Understand. Release/Forgive. Let go, right now. Walk on.

Blessings!

Tony
19th October 2011, 20:54
Wow, you have done a lot of work! It's going to take some time to absorb.

All the very best
Tony

NancyV
19th October 2011, 21:29
Thanks, Roman! Brilliant!

Nancy :)

motherlove
19th October 2011, 22:36
Very interesting read a mechanics manual simply put and easy to understand thank you. I enjoyed the exercises. Best Wishes

Anchor
19th October 2011, 22:50
Good job. I will print that off with Pt1 and read them in more detail than the quick skim I gave them just now.

Dawn
20th October 2011, 02:50
OK. I like what you have printed, however you have a schism in your understanding. Since it is all one then you already have it ALL right now.

Just because Joe Blow down the street is experiencing an amazing trip to the Amazon, and you are not does not mean that the real YOU does not have it right now (as experienced by Joe Blow).

The more you begin to really experience it as 'all one' the more you realize that the little 'you' that wishes to manifest is just a small part of that ONE. Eventually you cease to use ego to try to change and manifest things and just watch in awe as the ONENESS within and without the little 'you' displays all its wonders.

You already are manifesting everything in every moment.

seko
20th October 2011, 03:17
Great post Roman, many thanks for taking the time to create it's all nonsense part 2.

You brought Shaman Juan Matus, from Castaneda's books back to my mind.

enfoldedblue
20th October 2011, 03:29
OK. I like what you have printed, however you have a schism in your understanding. Since it is all one then you already have it ALL right now.

Just because Joe Blow down the street is experiencing an amazing trip to the Amazon, and you are not does not mean that the real YOU does not have it right now (as experienced by Joe Blow).

The more you begin to really experience it as 'all one' the more you realize that the little 'you' that wishes to manifest is just a small part of that ONE. Eventually you cease to use ego to try to change and manifest things and just watch in awe as the ONENESS within and without the little 'you' displays all its wonders.

You already are manifesting everything in every moment.

YES! :)

Thank You

LOVE ALLways, c

Tony
20th October 2011, 07:47
Roman, wonderful stuff!!!
It is all non sense, and this non sense is being created moment by moment, being maintained by fantasies played day in and day out. All reactions are part of this fantasy, all because of belief in 'me' and 'my' creation.

We have invested much in 'our' creation, and spend every moment projecting it, or rather the idea of ourselves!

First we have to..."see"...what 'we' are doing, and unfortunately not many what to do that, as it is painful, to the illusory ego. Ego will always want to defend itself and attack others.

Whatever we think, we are still in a relative world.

Again Roman, thank you.

Tony

laughs-last
20th October 2011, 08:37
Thanks roman, don't wanna big you up or give you a courtly bow, as to avoid giving you a bad case of the ego ;) hack your mainframe and unlearn what you have learned cool. The shamanic way is to take a sledgehammer and smash it up, I guess the buddhist way is more gentle and subtle and hopefully stays clear of being placed on a psyche ward, while the mind rebuilds itself. Mixing both paths could work well, kinda fusing fast track and the mellow :P Blessings on you, just positive intent, well done for breaking down catholic programming that stuff is a major pain, as it gets in deep to the sub consciousness; hope you've flushed it all out (hope i got all mine) :)

ONE LOVE, BIG HUGZ and ONENESS OMMMMMM :jester:

p.s. I have found finding everything ridiculous, including myself, helps break down the problematic crap the mind tries to bring in; hey what do I know, does it matter, nah :P

Tony
20th October 2011, 09:24
Just to keep this thread going...

To simplify the word karma, we could used the words learnt behaviour or beliefs.

Only meditation can break through habitual patterns of behaviour both learned and karmic. This includes analytical meditation. Afflictive and cognitive obscurations are purified when karma is exhausted.

In the west, where the culture is not Dharma, we have to deal with learned patterns and karmic patterns – we work with learned patterns in order to become a healthy human, and follow the path to freedom which will clear karmic patterns.

To achieve liberation when one is distorted with learned habitual patterns is difficult... this always depends on the individual. Some may be able to follow the path without dealing with the separate issue of becoming a healthy human – but many have intense distortions and if such a person hears teachings, they may distort their patterns even further.

For such person, if you tell them there is no identity etc, it could make it all worse...and to hear that everything is suffering could create more problems. Or, on the other hand, they may be able to accept and realise something.

In truth the ego does not exist, but we are working in a relative world, where things seem to exist. Conventionally, there is a sense of I. This needs to explained in a skilful way. The indivisibility of the 2 truths is so important – if one can harmonise these, one can practise well.

All the best
Tony

Tony
20th October 2011, 09:50
And to keep this going....


Once we become healthy human beings, natural love and compassion will arise in our minds. If we separate the person and the afflictions: the compassion is for the person being dominated by the afflictions, rather than the person themselves. At an unconscious level, when we perceive a being, we see them as the same as their afflictions – we don't see them as 2 separate things.

If we can see them as 2 different things, then we can develop compassion towards the person (however this does not mean “Do whatever you went – it's OK”).

This is conventional compassion, reflecting on subject and object and working at an emotional level. There is a sense of ownership...”I am experiencing compassion”.
Ultimately, when you dissolve that ownership in emptiness, the atmosphere is still there, but not owned by ego-fixation. Relative meaning compassion becomes the adornment of emptiness. Don't think absolute compassion is so distant...but don't assume your compassionate Bodhicitta is “made in Switzerland” or you won't keep trying.

Shantideva: for those without effort, there is no liberation.

OnyxKnight
20th October 2011, 10:25
We are manifesters the creators of our reality.

Please enlighten me how a woman that experiences multiple rape scenarios that leave her barely alive, is a reality she created?

Tony
20th October 2011, 11:55
Hello OnyxKnight,
I'll answer that if I may. You pose a very difficult and important question.

The answer to your question must lay in your own hands. It will depend on your belief system not on someone else's. In the normal run of things, if I am angry at you, then you will be angry at me. Likewise if I smile and wave at you, then you will smile and wave at me. It is immediate cause and effect. That is quite easy to see.

Now, because of that previous interaction, when you meet that person again, that previous interaction will influence this present moment -likeable or unlikeable.

What has happened is because of our interactions and reactions this leave an imprint in the mind. Our minds are full of imprints = hence that is how our neural pathways are developed. Over a lifetime this gets quite complex and effects our behaviour. This behaviour causes reactions in others.

Now we came back to our belief system. If we look closely our present moment, it was created by our past action, and all those little interactions add up. We develop a pattern of who we are and what we want to do. If we ignore this pattern or do not notice it, we will find ourselves in situation that we created. This is the reason the same things keep happening to us.

Have you noticed how a four year old has a strongly developed behaviour or pattern. Where did this come from, was it nature or nurture or both? Again we come back to our belief system. If one considers reincarnation, then this nature is an imprint from past lives. If one does not go along with reincarnation, then you must find another solution...things just happen! Actually there must be some truth in that as well.

So, something suddenly comes at us out of the blue. Why it happened, does not really matter, unless it is this habitual pattern we were talking about earlier. The point is how you deal with it now!

One can just let it go, or redress the balance (justice). Again it is probably a measure of both. The most important thing is the effect on your mind, now! Can you deal with the situation, and, let go?
Sometimes we cannot deal with a situation because we do not have enough data.

Can you move on, that is the question? Karma is not a judgement, it is our path that we undo. You have to find the answer to your question that satisfies you!
Your question implies a judgement, there isn't any. We have all found ourselves in bad situation.

Tony

crested-duck
20th October 2011, 18:34
Thank you very much ROMANWKT this thread is exactly what I needed to read at the time I need it most. Thanks go out to pie'n'eal & OnyxKnight too. Much personal effort has been spent on my liberation . I found myself as a 11yr old child in a very bad situation somewhat similar to OnyxKnight ,eventually joined military like a good military brat. Seen first hand much evil in this reality. Seems to me have dealt with PTSD since I can remember ,some days good-some bad. I've learned more about my true self from PA than any psycologist I ever paid. Forgiveness is really a bitch some days, but I'm doing the best I can at this time !

skyflower
21st October 2011, 03:27
Thank you Roman for this thread.
It had been brought to my attention that I was carrying some baggage from past hurts that was blocking my spiritual evolution through many events, and later through the most unexpected people.
I earnestly thought I had shaken off the baggage in the past, but I had been shown I hadn't, and was at loss on how to go about releasing it.
Yesterday I found this thread, read it, went over part 1, went out to dinner with my best friend, and somehow she brought up the subject about personal evolution and personal acceptance of who we are... then came back home and came in to check out what was new in Avalon.
Found a thread on Bashar 2012, clicked on some of the videos, and somehow, it all came together. I now understand what must be done, and there is work to be done, but I am not shooting in the dark anymore, and that makes a world of a difference.

So Thank you again. :)

ROMANWKT
21st October 2011, 13:53
This is an invitation to all to help our understanding of the mechanics of consciousness, manifesting, and life. I don’t care from what Denomination or Discipline one belongs to or comes from. I have rejected all disciplines and denominations and indoctrinations, I follow none, I still have respect for the mostly hidden truths that all these disciplines have, and I would like to quickly tell you why of my rejection, and respect.

When I was 11 years old, I was still in a refugee camp in the middle of nowhere in the middle of England, I have been there since I was 3 month old. There were a few thousand misplaced persons there, and somebody managed to get a film projector and show the Nazi atrocities. My father took me along to see this film, as to show where we were all coming from being here in the camp. After the film ended which was an hour or so long, I was in a complete state of such shock, that from that moment on I could not be left alone for over 2 weeks, as these images would start to creep back into my mind. I kept latching on to my mother, if not then my father, if not, then my sister or brother, I could not be left alone, it worried the hell out of them all.

Now here’s the reason why I brought this up. I saw in this film two very large black doors being opened into a large hall, at first it looked like a pyramid in the middle of this hall, and as the camera started to zoom in, you suddenly start to identify what this pyramid is, it was a thousand or so naked dead bodies of children, women and men. The most curious thing that stuck in my mind was that all the children were trampled on by the women, and all the women were trampled on by the men, so you had a pyramid of dead children as a large base, then in the middle dead women, and from the middle up to a peak, of dead men all trying to get a last gulp of air out of a hole in the ceiling where the deadly gas cannister was placed.

I am not going to describe further atrocities, but you get the point. So here you have peace loving, very religious Jewish people being exterminated, a most dreadful thing to off had happen with our permission?, and the saddest fact to me was that these men who were on top of the pyramid after trampling over children and women, were mostly Rabbis. So what does that mean to our learned friends here? I would like to point out that I am not Jewish, I am now classed as British, and of Polish stock because of the majority of the people in the camp were Polish, which I am not, hence, Catholic upbringing. I would also like to add that 60 million people died in WW2 and they were not Jewish.

After my traumatic 2 weeks or so, I went outside by myself and looked into the clouds and kissed the old white bearded f@@ker up there goodbye. For thousands of years before I was born, we had people from all denominations and disciplines, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and we as humanity still managed to do the most dreadful atrocities world wide right up to world WW2 and beyond, and now in the Middle-East by us. So with the greatest of respect to everyone here, you can take your disciplines and shove it. I don’t need a discipline to live, and I don’t need a discipline to die, what I do need is to understand why I need them, and I hope that there is some of that understanding in the post above, and I would be most grateful of all our learned friend here in the forum if you would help people to understand, as all the crap around the world is showing us that we are about to let it all happen again.


All of you have hidden knowledge and understanding within your denominations that would be beneficial to all of us here, for that you have my very greatest respect, but don’t just comment, teach, explain, where are you coming from?

I wish to point out to our PIE,N,EAL he has my respect and appreciation, because he’s been doing exactly that.

I would also like to show GREYBEARD my respect and appreciation for his long running thread on the problems of an ego.

My regards to all

roman

ROMANWKT
21st October 2011, 14:32
Hi all
if you like what you read please leave a comment, so that this stays on the front page for others.

regards to all
roman

aranuk
21st October 2011, 15:02
I really like what I read Roman

Stan

NancyV
21st October 2011, 18:03
Thanks for the personal story, Roman. It's always fascinating to understand how others come to their views on Religions or Spiritual practices/philosophies.

I also am not drawn to any religions or spiritual practices anymore, although I have explored many. I grew up with non religious parents and only occasionally went to church, which was a Christian Science church. My grandfather had been a Christian Science hands on healer but later he and my grandmother expanded into general metaphysics. They had a huge library which I avidly devoured when I stayed them in summer or if they lived nearby. My father was a definite agnostic and used to love debating people of different religious persuasions. My mother was also an agnostic and in her later years liked to describe herself as a "polytheistic agnostic". This supposedly meant that she acknowledged the possibility of the existence of many gods but did not BELIEVE in any. The truth is she liked to confuse people and try to overwhelm them with her intellect. LOL.. She had started college at age 15 and had a couple of masters degrees.

This rather non religious but metaphysically conscious upbringing may be why I had quite a few out of body experiences throughout grammar school, but these early out of body experiences were more like "bilocation". About 99% of my consciousness would remove itself from my body and position itself above the classroom looking down on all the activity going on at once. It usually happened when I was completely bored, which was often. School was not much of a challenge to me and watching 20-30 kids and the teacher in minute detail all at once was a lot more fun. Since I didn't tell anyone about it no one told me I couldn't do it.

Your original post is in agreement with my knowledge that there is no God outside of yourself and that beliefs manifest "reality". When I started having OBE's on a regular basis as an adult into the astral, causal, mental and further planes of existence, I came to realize that they too were a part of the matrix. This "matrix" IS the Creation and the Source is the Creator of the Matrix and is ALSO the Matrix. Different levels have different densities and manifesting beliefs is more instantaneous in less dense regions of the matrix. I also had to deal with my indoctrinated fears creating realities in astral and less dense regions. Fears are beliefs. Beliefs create reality.

Karma....YES!! It both exists and doesn't exist! It exists when we believe it exists and it's a tool that is used to control our actions in the Creation. If we believe in it we may control ourselves. If our parents believe it and teach it to us, either as Karma or as Sin being punished by a God, it is a tool of control for them and for those religions, spiritual practices or philosophies (including New Age) propagating the cause and effect scenario. Most of them believe in this doctrine, so they are likely not consciously using it as a control mechanism, but in effect that's what it is. If one can really grasp that something is concurrently both valid and not valid at the same time... that's a big breakthrough. We too often like to think either something IS true or it ISN'T true! LOL... So we spend years searching for TRUTH. Since TRUTH does not exist as we think it exists (somewhere "out" there) we never find it. It is then guaranteed that we won't find out that there is no "truth" since the search for it always keeps it in the ever elusive (and illusionary) "future".

My best lady friend and I have a very small club called the "I Don't Give a $hit" club. We often discuss how much fun it is to not give a $hit AND the inevitable dichotomy of still caring at the same time. These two states are not mutually exclusive. We laugh a lot when we occasionally feel fleeting shame, blame or guilt as our human knee jerk indoctrinated reaction. These indoctrinated programs from early childhood are nearly impossible to completely rid oneself of while in a human body, so the most effective method we have found to deal with them (when they rear their ugly heads) is to laugh at ourselves and marvel at the humor of being in a human body in a "temporal" plane of existence.

Okay, that's long enough and I have to go shopping now!

Nancy :)
ps: EFT is a very good tool, especially if one believes that it works! :p

onawah
21st October 2011, 19:56
"I have rejected all disciplines and denominations and indoctrinations, I follow none, I still have respect for the mostly hidden truths that all these disciplines have"...etc.

I feel much the same.
It really does all come down to the individual and what particular programming needs to be released, though we all have a lot of the same garbage.
The disciplines can be helpful in showing us how to do that, but all too often, the organizations that teach these disciplines are also coming with the strings attached, of yet more programming.
It's wise to be cautious.

I was about 8 years old when the neighborhood movie theatre showed a film about the Holocaust.
I don't know why children were admitted, but they were, and I sat through many very graphic scenes such as the "pyramid".
It certainly made a lasting impression on me too.
But I had already learned to distrust the adult world, because just a year or two before that, I was injected with the SV40 polio vaccine, which I much later discovered was laced with viruses from Rhesus monkey tissue.
I knew when I received it that there was something very wrong with it, though I didn't know what, of course.
I told my mother and teachers there was something wrong, but they ignored me and laughed at my concerns.
Being so sensitive as a child was very difficult, but it led to being a very inquisitive adult who questioned things most took for granted.

Thanks again for these threads.

ROMANWKT
21st October 2011, 21:20
Hi Nanacy V

Thank you Nancy for your reply and comment, and confirming some truths as we understand them, I love your experiences and attitude towards this subject as I don't think its out in the open enough with the right understanding as your, also the coming in and out of the astral is something that we should all be doing, I've always thought that is all of our next stage, with that capacity of understanding being experienced by all people this world would be better understood, and because of that would be a different world for us, people would not fall into the trap of governmental nonsense i.e.:wars. thank you and feel free to share all your travel experience here.

my regard to you
roman

ROMANWKT
21st October 2011, 21:45
Hi Onawah
I see that you were younger that me, both of us were to young to see such stuff, I managed to get rid of all such nonsense out of myself, as i understand things a lot better now, I really don't as such carry any baggage now. if it was traumatic to me, I got rid of most thing in my life in my twenties.

But at this moment i am more concerned about the virus that you found you had been injected with. with hand on my heart, please get MMS from somebody , learn how to use it, and take 1 drop for the first day, increase by 1 drop every day, if all is well and you don't feel sickly, keep raising 1 extra drop every day, until you can handle 15 drop of MMS per day for 1 week, then stop. everything in the body that should not be there is completely and totally removed, there are some thread here on mms.

Thank you for your comments, my regards to you( if you do it let me know, if you cant get mms, let me know)
roman

onawah
21st October 2011, 22:03
Thanks Roman, I appreciate your concern very much. Not a lot of people seem to get how dangerous vaccines really are.
The trauma of the infected vaccine and subsequent events was indeed, far more traumatic for me than watching the Holocaust movie, since it affected me on so many levels, including physical.
I do a lot of networking about the dangers of vaccines, which have increased exponentially since I was a child. It's a number one priority for me.
I have used MMS, but it was pretty harsh for my particular system. I did one bottle, and I figured if that didn't work, I wasn't going to be able to get through another, in any case.
I do a lot of other things, among them Transfer Factor, aloe vera, Probiotics, Olive Leaf, Colloidal Silver, allicin and I'm starting on Ashwagandha and Cat's Claw.
I'm not sure the virus is still in my system, if it's mutated, or if I've done enough work so that it simply can't survive in my body any longer, but sooner or later, I think it will be gone if it's not already.
Thanks again, and please continue with this thread, which is more than simply useful!

ROMANWKT
21st October 2011, 22:30
Hi Onawah

If you managed to do the bottle of mms, there is not a cat in hell chance that anything other than your own organism would of survived that, it works as liquid oxygen. that will attack any foreign body by PH value, anything above or below as most viruses are is exterminated (hate that bloody word) there is no way you have anything, let go of that trauma, release hehe
my regards
roman

onawah
22nd October 2011, 01:27
I hope you're right!
Stealth viruses are not as easy to kick as others.
I still have a problem with Candida overgrowth, however, which is why I am using all the other stuff.
I need to kick this sweet tooth!

Tony
22nd October 2011, 09:35
Everyday I think, I'm not writing anymore. Then something catches the eye, and an uneasy feeling arises and the little ego wants to respond! “No” I say. Leave it alone. “But isn't that ignoring” says the mind. So what to do?

I scan the mind to see what Hermes or Mercury brings up. The answer is God realms. “Oh'”says I, “Do I really have to go down that avenue?” “Well” says the mind, “if that is not explained, others could suffer.”

Some people can just go to a piano, and start messing around and are able to play. It is the same with Art and everything else, including spirituality. They just do it. Why? Because it is in their nature, if you ask why is that, the answer is probably that they have done it in previous incarnations.

I once had a Guru who said, that I had fenced for nine incarnations, so that was why I was a natural at it now. So some of us, at certain things do not have to try too hard.

If we claim this skill, and think how clever we are, we can get stuck in what is called the God Realm. There are other Realms! For those with born skills, we have to be very careful and take responsibility, to pick up the stones on the road where others may tread.

All of us at some time had to start from the basics. For most people a system or foundation is needed, so that they can feel confident in the universal laws, and play with them.

I used to paint for many years, did OK, but needed to go to an academy to break through limited fixed patterns. I had to be undone.

Telling others that they do not need teachers or instructors is not that wise. Who will take the responsibility when these people fall? This merely teaches others to jump in and making all sorts of claims, about themselves, just to keep up.

If you listen to others experiences, don't think you have to feel the same, that is merely being conceptual. Your path may be slightly different, more to your taste not some else's.

We can have a meeting of minds and hearts, but it is destroyed if self-attitude it present.
We can be at one, but we are not all one.

All the best on your journey,
Tony

ROMANWKT
22nd October 2011, 18:59
Hi Pie'n'eal

Tony I am most grateful for you comment and with greatest respect, point taken.

My regards to you as always
roman

Metaphor
22nd October 2011, 22:52
Thanks Roman, for sharing your insights. Both part 1 and 2 have been most helpful.
I am currently going through the needles eye, releasing some old garbage, in what the gnostics would term "the dark night of the soul". Your writing sure has been a lightbulb :-)

crested-duck
23rd October 2011, 01:25
When I was very young at a Christmass holiday gathering I asked my great uncle why he had a tattoo. I'll never forget what he told me:" there is much evil in this world and someday you will understand." I understand fully! My Jewish grandmother explained how she was sent to Poland then USA to escape the massacre to me when I was a teenager. But I will never forget seeing those tattoo's as long as I live. I'm just a mutt-Jewish, English dad & Portugese mom.

mosquito
23rd October 2011, 04:48
Thanks Roman, I finally took the time to read all you've written, marvelous. You and others have managed to express and also clarify a lot of things that I've intuitively felt but been unable to express in language. I've also had a life that's taught me the no-dogma, no-discipline, no-belief-system, no-bollocks approach. Difficult at times, as I've felt like a rudderless ship.
I intend to put some of these ideas into practice, and will share my experiences.

NancyV - I LOVE your idea of the "Don't give a sh1t" club ! This is the kind of paradox we need to embrace in order to move on.

Metaphor
23rd October 2011, 09:24
I've also had a life that's taught me the no-dogma, no-discipline, no-belief-system, no-bollocks approach. Difficult at times, as I've felt like a rudderless ship.

You are definitively not alone, feeling like a rudderless ship. I guess it comes with the task...

ROMANWKT
23rd October 2011, 19:12
Thanks Roman, for sharing your insights. Both part 1 and 2 have been most helpful.
I am currently going through the needles eye, releasing some old garbage, in what the gnostics would term "the dark night of the soul". Your writing sure has been a lightbulb :-)

Hi Metaphor
I am very glad to of been of some help, you really need to clear yourself, with what's ever bothering you, we all get a few downers in life, but in a very short while things start to change, everything is moving and flowing you cant even make the down time hang around for to long, release, bring it up and let it go.

My regards and wish you well
roman

ROMANWKT
23rd October 2011, 19:31
When I was very young at a Christmass holiday gathering I asked my great uncle why he had a tattoo. I'll never forget what he told me:" there is much evil in this world and someday you will understand." I understand fully! My Jewish grandmother explained how she was sent to Poland then USA to escape the massacre to me when I was a teenager. But I will never forget seeing those tattoo's as long as I live. I'm just a mutt-Jewish, English dad & Portugese mom.

Hi crested-duck

Its just dreadful the inhumanity, I could never believe that people could do such thing to one another, your grandparent were lucky, and here you are to tell the tale, its very sad, and the saddest part is that it hasn't stopped, its still going on, we haven't learnt. what the hell is our problem?

My very best wishes to you and regards, thank you
roman

Dawn
23rd October 2011, 23:10
Please enlighten me how a woman that experiences multiple rape scenarios that leave her barely alive, is a reality she created?

OnyxNight, I decided to answer you as part of the thread because I also was a victim for many years. Eventually I decided to end this no matter what it took, and within a week I had discovered a method that worked to relieve me of energy patterns which intense trauma can leave behind. If you have experienced a deep trauma, the emotional charge usually remains in the nervous system of the 3D body, and is also recorded in the astral and other bodies as tightly coiled vortexes of energy. Unwinding these can be a bit ticklish.

In these cases, it seems to be the body which decides when it is time to release these (AKA the deep unconscious). The intense power of these trauma energies can debilitate the body, and leave it defenseless as they are releasing. (Of course after the full release, everything is normal again) The body will usually decide to release them only when it is in a safe place, and usually this means that it is 'watched over' by another 'safe person'. This natural way of unwinding was first discovered by watching wild animals watch over each other, as the energies caught after a frightening experience were released.

So... in my case these traumas were buried pretty deep in my subconscious. It took some concentrated effort on releasing them, however in the end they are all gone. And, by the way, my traumas included being raped on 2 separate occasions and also being molested by a pedophile in early adolescence. (This is actually fairly typical of trauma victims, the trauma will usually repeat over and over until the underlying emotional charge and pattern are released.) The method I used to release these and other traumas was called 'Somatic Experiencing', although there are other body oriented methods which work just as well in the hands of a competent guide. Talk therapy usually does not work to unwind these powerful emotional charges because it can drive them deeper as the story is re-told.

On a side note, it has been documented that children of the holocaust were 'normal', whereas grandchildren of the holocaust victims were a 'mess'. They had recurring traumas, illnesses, and mental/emotional imbalances that were very dark. Many of them were pretty non-functional. These studies and more tend to show that trauma patterns skip a generation and manifest in the grandchildren of the original victims. This has broad implications for future generations in war torn countries.

In the end, I realized that the trauma events in my life had occurred because of subconscious patterns which were either passed on from former lifetimes, or through my genetic line. And, I came to view these traumatic events as blessings, because they became pointers to the unconscious patterns that had been running the show without my knowledge.

IF; no traumas in this life.... THEN; no pointers to tell me where I needed to release patterns.

And Roman, thank you so MUCH for taking the time to put all this into such an eloquent thread. I did use the Sedona Method of Releasing intensely for a number of years, however I did not find it until after I had done the work on trauma. It is my understanding that, with some who have experienced intense trauma, unwinding goes better with a guide present who can help them feel safe.

Deborah (ahamkara)
24th October 2011, 01:57
Cool. You express quite eloquently what is becoming increasingly evident to some. Thank you for such a systematic analysis.

I randomly picked up a book a few days ago and found this quote:
"You need not leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. you need not even listen, simply wait. You need not even wait, just learn to become quiet, and still, and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked. It has no choice; it will roll in ecstasy at your feet." ~ Franz Kafka

ROMANWKT
24th October 2011, 18:09
This post has been re-written by PARCIVAL, thank you Parcival.

ROMANWKT
24th October 2011, 23:51
Hallo The Abundant Traveler

Thank you for sharing your experiences, ( like wow) you have been through some traumatic events, your attitude passes over well to this experience, you did succeed. if you are open and willing to talk as you have done now, please use this as you platform as this would be the right place, as from the last pm that we spoke I had this feeling that it would of been lost, I hope you understand, that continuing there, it would of been lost. I would really like you to feel free to share lot more of your travels here. In this post there is information which need to be dismantled and reconfirmed, we here in Avalon do not have a consensus on basic understanding, we should all contribute towards dismantling and to the best of our ability put in the context as correct of an understanding as we can. not a religion,or dogma, but an understanding.

Thank you for direction for OnyxNight, I'm afraid that i don't know his challenges, or what he's gone through.I think that i will answer him from my perspective, which he will rip my head off, so be it.

My regards to you as always
roman

ROMANWKT
29th October 2011, 21:21
Hi All, lots reading, no feedback?????

Regards to all
roman

jessamy99
29th October 2011, 22:11
Thankyou Roman. I read parts one and two and they have certainly come at an apt time for me. I have been in the process of releasing and forgiving past pains. I have been shining light on the shadows and watching them dissolve. A similar method to yours. Your posts have given me the affirmation that coincidences always do when they crop up in such an extraordinary way. I survived childhood abuse and more as an adult. But I am lucky as I was able to step aside at the time. I just need to forgive and let it go. Not everyone is as lucky. Thankyou again for your help.
With love, Jessamy.

motherlove
29th October 2011, 23:01
The saying "There is nothing to fear but fear itself" fits here I think. There is so much trauma in our pasts and presents perhaps a look at life from a different perspective would serve to move us forward. How you view the world directly affects how you live in the world how you live in the world affects everyone you associate with and more. To heal yourself is to heal the world most directly. It is no easy task to assume responsibility rather than project blame it is no easy task to hold your feet to the flame. There is no other that can do it for you for love or money. Best Wishes

ROMANWKT
30th October 2011, 12:18
58andfixed

I'd like to banter with you on the noted selection for now, and see if I can become the wiser for it after the dialog is over.

First, I'd like to have you take a look at a BBC Documentary "The Secret You" by mathematician and Atheist Marcu du Sautoy.

It's a conservative side/take on the Carl Jung, Rupert Sheldrake approach to 'collective consciousness.'

The video introduces so many profound experiments that my experience has been 'stunned silence' for those I share this with. Given this 'average response,' I suspect you would be willing to highlight your thinking in light of some rather startling and widely unknown experience of the mind, from the perspective of the repeatable scientific approach.



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58m 41s 55,769 views

It's an hour, so pick your time and I'll watch the thread for some input




Hi 58andfixed

That is a very good question, and a perspective is needed here.

The video was great, I have not seen it, but as always they leave you with a gaping hole, never really coming to some understandable conclusion to move one forwards, just more questions.

Watch this video first,UyyjU8fzEYU

This lady opens out the hidden within all of us, Its the finest example of here and there, which does not exist, its a fine example of within and without, its the finest example of their being nothing outside of you, the whole proccess is linear from conciousness to condenced conciousness, our reality and yes maybe with a 6 second delay beetween wave and the particles, as ones right hemisphere recives, and the left converts, but mind is still outside of the brain which make your body, earth and the universe your reality.

Imagine a room between the two hemispheres and two doors between the two hemispheres, one door comes from the right hemisphere into the room and the other door opposite leads to the left. There seems to be a governor in the room between the hemispheres which restrict a full blown manifestation of our true reality, that governor, that re-stricter would be your beliefs. I don’t say that it happens that way, its just an illustration.

There is a fine example of this when Columbus ( I think) in a rowing boat with his crew were coming into the shores of an Island which had the natives standing on the beach seeing them arrive with astonishment as they had never seen Europeans before, after their introductions, the shamans surprise to the fact that how could they of travelled great distances in a little boat like that, the crew were pointing a big ship anchored just outside of the tide, but not one of the natives could see it, as much as the whole party were trying to explain, they could not see it, which baffled the crew, so they took the shaman and others into the boat, and started row back to the ship to show them, so the closer they got to the ship, a faint shadow was beginning to show itself of this invisible ship to the natives, then suddenly with a gasp they saw this great ship in all its glory, after they rowed back to the Island the shaman described to natives of what he had seen, and when all the natives looked back at the sea, they all began to see it. (explain that one)?? We see what we believe, and what we believe we see, and that’s our experience of reality.

In part one, the focus was mainly on yourself, in part two its more focused on all of us as a consensus.

Imagine, you have a glass of water on the table in front of you, step back from the left to the right hemisphere where you feel you are part of everything, you are conscious of all consciousness surrounding you, even the consciousness of that glass of water, you are it, and it is you, step back into your left hemisphere and reach out your hand to the glass of water, your intention is in the reaching out, the water slides towards you. Your belief that it can not, will stop that event from happening, BLOCKS. Why not puncture a hole in the clouds, its all the same thing, nothing is outside of ourselves.

My regards to you
roman

motherlove
30th October 2011, 14:40
Jill Bolte Taylor lecture is worth the listen her book a "A Stroke Of Insight" helped me understand the experiences I had after a car accident in 05. We are all that and so much more. Best Wishes.

jessamy99
30th October 2011, 20:33
These videos are both fascinating. The second one was especially moving for me. Thankyou so much for posting them Roman!
Much love, Jessamy.

Fred Steeves
1st November 2011, 15:58
After my traumatic 2 weeks or so, I went outside by myself and looked into the clouds and kissed the old white bearded f@@ker up there goodbye.

I pulled into my driveway one day about 13 years ago or so, but before getting out and going inside, there was a little business needing tending to. I said my last prayer to the man upstairs, it went something like this: "You know what? I'm not buying into your sh!t any more. If I'm wrong, and you feel the need to punish me when I die, then do what you gotta do, but I'm done. Bye bye." Best move I ever made. Looking back, THAT was the day that the first of many shackles began to fall away. It was almost like 'someone' watching said "ya know what, I kinda like that kid, he's got some balls. Show em a little somethin somethin to get his interest in what's really going on."

Brilliant post by the way Roman!!! Someone's been doing an aweful lot of thinking, researching and soul searching. I still contend the Earth DOES indeed have consciousness, from personal experience, but that's cool. It's all good. Just so you know, I don't worship her...LOL:)

Interesting you spoke so much about the church. I was obligated to attend a Catholic mass last week because of a death in the family, and it was a somewhat surreal experience. I've not stepped foot in a church since beginning to "wake up" 3 years ago, much less the Catholic variety, and I found myself just observing in utter amazement at how obviously ridiculous the whole thing was. A stained glass with Jesus sitting in a masonic pose, incense, the eating of flesh and blood, blithely chanting, etc. There was nothing 'spiritual'(for lack of a better word) about it in the slightest, save for good and loving people freely giving away their power and sovereigntry. At times I almost just wanted to jump up on the alter and scream "don't you people see what's going on here?"

Anyway, I'm totally with you on the no method or school of thought way of going about things. They can be very useful, and contain much truth, as long as one can discern their way through the bullsh!t and mis-information. Not trying to offend anyone, but they're meant to be a tool, to be discarded after serving their purpose. People tend to become attached to the tool,(the vehicle) rather than where it is meant to take them.

At the risk of rambling wildly now, I'll stop. Besides, I reserve the right to suddenly disagree with myself at any moment and change my mind.:)

Cheers,
Fred

Lisab
1st November 2011, 19:28
I need to go back to Part 1 again now Roman. Both such helpful threads. When I originally read part one it introduced me to Honoponolo via another poster on your thread. Im thinking its helped a little but im going to back and try your releasing method.

By the way Ive just picked up a book called 'F*** It - the Ultimate Spiritual Way' at a time when I had just literally said ya know what 'f*** it' to stuff I was going thru at home and in work. I havnt even need to finish the whole book it had already done its job before my higher self lead me to it. One of those synchronicities I guess. Anyway that attitude certaintly helped me in work, with my sales going from zero on the floor to back on top again. Just by using those two little words and meaning it. And recent family dramas are just fading. What other people think about me is their business, not mine. x

crested-duck
1st November 2011, 20:13
Perhaps the reason I've been obsessed with history lately is the fact I'm a decendant of both survivors and victim's of that massacre. Thus I'm trying to understand how it happened and why. The more I research the more shaken to the core I've become,and most people do'nt want to talk about it or learn the truth. It's true what they say about being damned to repeat history if you do not learn what happened. People were quick to shoot down my plane when trying to educate everyone on another thread today. Maybe it takes too much effort for people to read more than a few paragraphs at one time,maybe everyone has ADD , I just do not understand the lack of interest.

ROMANWKT
1st November 2011, 21:16
Perhaps the reason I've been obsessed with history lately is the fact I'm a decendant of both survivors and victim's of that massacre. Thus I'm trying to understand how it happened and why. The more I research the more shaken to the core I've become,and most people do'nt want to talk about it or learn the truth. It's true what they say about being damned to repeat history if you do not learn what happened. People were quick to shoot down my plane when trying to educate everyone on another thread today. Maybe it takes too much effort for people to read more than a few paragraphs at one time,maybe everyone has ADD , I just do not understand the lack of interest.

Hi crested-duck

I will be perfectly honest with, your family, your race, the extermination was and is used against us the gentiles as a tool to slap us down. I am not saying the ordinary Jewish person, I am talking about Zionism, which has involved its self as a controlling factor in society, nobody, but nobody can say anything concerning the Zionist control, as they immediately smack you and call you an antisemite, and they will put you away for such deeds as to dare talk in any criticism of the Jews, when in fact we the people are talking about Zionism, they use you to batter us, that why people have this dreadful attitude towards the Jews.

I don't want to expand but you get the gist, its what is happening.

My warmest regard to you
roman

TOTHE
24th November 2011, 06:30
Emerson quote here from Transmission Theory by Michael Grosso:
"we lie in the lap of immense intelligence which makes us receivers of its truth and organs of its activity."
http://www.esalenctr.org/display/confpage.cfm?confid=9&pageid=86&pgtype=1

Every day I keep adding to Greybeard's axiom with bits and pieces from the Avalon Forum:

God (which we are) is the totality all of it.
Form and formless both and neither.
Its impossible for the human mind to grasp that.
We are not really human as thats temporary.
We are one consciousness having a human experience.
The brain is only a receiver of consciousness and not the originator of it.
Ultimately awareness being aware of being aware.
Awareness does not need subject and object.
Subject and object are the illusion created by ego.

It's all fun and games, until someone gets their "I" poked out.

ROMANWKT
25th January 2012, 13:29
HI all

After watching the second part of BILL WOOD, I would like to remind all of the manipulation that we have had from the Illuminati plonkers for thousands of years, and how they effect our

CONSENSUS

regards to all
roman

percival tyro
13th February 2012, 23:02
Hi Roman, I bookmarked your threads the end of October 2011. Just started reading them 13th February 2012. Thankyou everyone. I'm going to take it all in over the next few days.

Ilie Pandia
5th December 2012, 10:12
Hello,

Just finished reading both parts of Roman's opening posts :). I did not notice them when they were first posted but this little video (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52338-Roman-on-Video-YUUK-Start-of-Human-Potential.&p=587820&viewfull=1#post587820) by Roman sparked my interest quite a bit.

Fist I need to say something to get it of my chest: dear Roman you seem to still have to do a lot of releasing of attachment and approval as to how your threads go and how far reaching they are :p.

That being said, I myself have had similar lines of thought as you have, but did not put them into writing yet, because there are still unresolved issues...

One of the issues would be motivation. If I drop all desire of having a car, or spiritual growth, or self improvement and so on... then what will be the driving force behind me doing any of the releasing exercises? If I no longer want or need a car... then... I no longer want or need a car... do you see what I am getting at?

Another thing that I grapple with I guess I could call it "apathy" (again lack of motivation?) and it goes like this: it looks like there is no truth, no lies, no good, no evil, no morality, no superior, no inferior, everything just is, or should I say we/I pretend it is or imagine it to be. This kinda implies that "all is well" and everything already is "as it should be". If we destroy our species then that is just as "good" (or neutral) as we "save our selves"... who cares? So you see the paradox?

And of course the fact that if I cut my body it bleeds and it hurts. And that's all it takes to remind me that "oh boy.. this is pretty real alright! all else are virtual words on a forum that won't do me any good!"

So Roman, if you've pondered these yourself and got to some insights I'd like to know them :). If you already wrote plenty about it just point me to the thread(s).

Gardener
5th December 2012, 11:35
CON SENS US Just thought I would post my observation of this word. Words is a subject that I have been looking at recently.
US, (we) have had our SENSes CONned en mass.

Just thinking out loud.........

Good work Roman

confederate
11th February 2013, 21:50
I am aware this comment is much later than all this by Roman was posted but I like it very much. I am reading and re-reading all the posts by Roman and am listening to all the tapes of his friend. The world that I have been looking for is exploding before my eyes.
thank you very much

ROMANWKT
26th March 2014, 19:46
the thing is to not play with it but DO IT

Grizz Griswold
27th March 2014, 23:53
Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
For me its a question of being careful what I digest mentally.
Without being obsessive I have a daily diet of enlightened spiritual works.
Meditation is on going, in an easy not forced way while walking or just sitting.
Re charging the battery or another way of looking at is --- When a coal falls out of the fire it soon looses its warmth and glow, it needs the company of enlightened embers to maintain its energy.
There is only love or fear--- the fear of God is a mistranslation--it means not to fear God but to respect that energy we call God or Source or The Ultimate.
That which you are in Truth.

Thanks for being you Grizz, you make a difference.

Chris
This is the second time I responded to this same post, To me it is a good rule of thumb to live by. So many of us lose ground to the ego who is always looking for drama, what is dramas real attraction but to be what we are not. This statement from the Bible; Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honorable, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Whether one is Christian or not this statement has energy and truth.

There is a responsibility here, which will we be vigilant for? the ego's sick appeal for drama and only a speck of happiness that is as fleeting as a vapor in which no real peace lies.
Or can we be vigilant for our true self? the good, joyful, the infinite.

There is one question which we should ask ourselves when we are tempted by dramas shine......Does it bring me peace of mind? If not we always have the ability to choose again.

Your statement above is a good reminder, we choose what we want and as we choose it is given. When not at peace choose again.

Thank you again Chris......Grizz