NewScientist: Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html?full=true&print=true

[Lord Sidious]

Just like the old soviet union, a few own the whole show, yet most see no difference between capitalism and communism.

[enfoldedblue]

Too bad this study wasn't able to measure social relationships between key players. The results would likely be much more sinister if this was factored into the equation. Great to see the thruth is being revealed more and more in the mainstream though.


LOVE ALLways, c

[christian]

It's rather the the "crony capiltalist network" or the "corporate network".
Don't blame capitalism, that just means free enterprise, private ownership an 'rise and fall on your own merits'.
When coropate- and state-power merges this is corporatocracy/fascism and this bears bailouts for the 'too big to fail' and laws designed to shut down small- and middle-class businesses.
So much talk about "abolishing capitalism" these days coming from interest groups, that push a totalitarian communist agenda (e.g. George Soros or The Zeitgeist Movement).

[nottelling]

And here's a psych profile lol

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[OnyxKnight]

Now everybody in the highest places in power will use the all the available media to present the bankers and fellow associates as the main, and only group, that had power and control. So the international movement will focus entirely on them as a target, not looking any more deeper than that. Its gonna be a very dire mistake in the making. I hope enough people have the intellectual capacity to realize power does not end with Wall Street.

Why would the PTB do this? They need a scape goat. A sacrificial lamb for the angry masses. So they can save their own ass and remain more or less, still hidden and largely anonymous.

[Lord Sidious]

Now everybody in the highest places in power will use the all the available media to present the bankers and fellow associates as the main, and only group, that had power and control. So the international movement will focus entirely on them as a target, not looking any more deeper than that. Its gonna be a very dire mistake in the making. I hope enough people have the intellectual capacity to realize power does not end with Wall Street.

Why would the PTB do this? They need a scape goat. A sacrificial lamb for the angry masses. So they can save their own ass and remain more or less, still hidden and largely anonymous.

Excellent observation onyxnugget.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Now everybody in the highest places in power will use the all the available media to present the bankers and fellow associates as the main, and only group, that had power and control. So the international movement will focus entirely on them as a target, not looking any more deeper than that. Its gonna be a very dire mistake in the making. I hope enough people have the intellectual capacity to realize power does not end with Wall Street.

Why would the PTB do this? They need a scape goat. A sacrificial lamb for the angry masses. So they can save their own ass and remain more or less, still hidden and largely anonymous.

And what if that "scapegoat" will try to put the blame on it's shepperd? Is'n it "i cover you you cover me, if you don't we sink together" game?

[OnyxKnight]

And what if that "scapegoat" will try to put the blame on it's shepperd? Is'n it "i cover you you cover me, if you don't we sink together" game?

Yes you are right, but how many of them will have proof of this to kill any doubt that may come to that end? Or if they have, how long before they are silenced in time, ahead of this "proof" making any news headlines?

I think you will agree that they surely have considered this possibility as very, very, highly probably scenario. If not what I suggested above, they surely have something else in store. They think about everything. They calculate. Plan on the long run.

I hope it happens though. Something I look very forward to actually Robert. I need names for my blacklist.

[58andfixed]

Many have been studying and writing on the issue.

F William Engdahl did an excellent piece in "Full Spectrum Dominance."

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/full-spectrum-dominance-f-william-engdahl/1103299665

"For the faction controlling the Pentagon, the military industry, and the oil industry, the Cold War never ended."

"They engineered an incredible plan to grab total control of the planet, of land, sea, air, space, outer space and cyberspace."

"Continuing 'below the radar,' they created a global network of military bases and conflicts to advance the long-term goal of Full Spectrum Dominance."

"Methods included control of propaganda, use of NGOs for regime change, Color Revolutions to advance NATO eastwards, and a vast array of psychological and economic warfare techniques."

http://img2.imagesbn.com/images/70760000/70765082.JPG


Some interviews done for the "Real News:"

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=317&Itemid=317&jumival=Engdahl&search=search

- 58

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Too bad this study wasn't able to measure social relationships between key players. The results would likely be much more sinister if this was factored into the equation. Great to see the thruth is being revealed more and more in the mainstream though.


LOVE ALLways, c

Spot on. We should also ask: where does this study come from? Switzerland? Hmm, no offence my Swiss friends. Who funded the study? Was it purposely designed to penetrate only so far. I have undertaken many scientic studies with large data sets, and skillful manipulation of data can give you pretty much the answer you want. Why would they do this? Misdirection, as has already been stated here by OnyxKnight.

[58andfixed]

The Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Zurich

"Like its sister institution École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL), it is an integral part of the ETH Domain that is directly subordinate to Switzerland's Federal Department of Home Affairs."

"ETH Zurich is ranked among the top universities in the world."

"The school was founded by the Swiss Federal Government in 1854 with the stated mission to educate engineers and scientists, serve as a national center of excellence in science and technology and provide a hub for interaction between the scientific community and industry."

"ETH is not selective in its undergraduate admission procedures. Like every public university in Switzerland, ETH is obliged to grant admission to every Swiss citizen who took the Matura."

*****

A comment from the paper:

"Concentration of power is not good or bad in itself, says the Zurich team, but the core's tight interconnections could be."

"As the world learned in 2008, such networks are unstable."

Seems to me to steer around political or class rhetoric, and stick to conservative realism.

- 58
We should also ask: where does this study come from? Switzerland?

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The Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Zurich

"Like its sister institution École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL), it is an integral part of the ETH Domain that is directly subordinate to Switzerland's Federal Department of Home Affairs."

"ETH Zurich is ranked among the top universities in the world."

"The school was founded by the Swiss Federal Government in 1854 with the stated mission to educate engineers and scientists, serve as a national center of excellence in science and technology and provide a hub for interaction between the scientific community and industry."

"ETH is not selective in its undergraduate admission procedures. Like every public university in Switzerland, ETH is obliged to grant admission to every Swiss citizen who took the Matura."

*****

A comment from the paper:

"Concentration of power is not good or bad in itself, says the Zurich team, but the core's tight interconnections could be."

"As the world learned in 2008, such networks are unstable."

Seems to me to steer around political or class rhetoric, and stick to conservative realism.

- 58
We should also ask: where does this study come from? Switzerland?

Haha, I know Zurich is in Switzerland - I have been there - I was alluding to the special relationship the elite have with Confoederatio Helvetica

[haibane]

Just like the old soviet union, a few own the whole show, yet most see no difference between capitalism and communism.
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand what you mean - it doesn't seem to make any sense to me. Did you live in a commie country?

[Lord Sidious]

Just like the old soviet union, a few own the whole show, yet most see no difference between capitalism and communism.
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand what you mean - it doesn't seem to make any sense to me. Did you live in a commie country?

Not the type of commie you mean.

[OnyxKnight]

Its funny that science was somehow applied to this whole thing AFTER people started rebelling. As if these "scientists" lacked the intellectual capability to realize a major problem in today's society any sooner, and apply the scientific method in the inquiry.

And the most laughable statement of the entire article:


Pushing the analysis further, they say, could help to identify ways of making global capitalism more stable.

LOL

Its never about applying a different formula when things don't work with the one you tried so far, isn't it, dear scientists?

How scientific of you.

Not sure how productive is to give CPR to a dead corpse. Reviving capitalism with economic schemes that only draw blood from the ordinary citizen (ethics aside) has been a proven failure. We wouldn't have economic crises every couple of decades.

Its time for something new, fresh and innovative, and even though you will find these words often in the jargon scientists use these days when it comes to problems that are unsolved or in the process of solving, it seems that social systems rest immune to this.

Either that, or scientists are uninterested in making a systematic root change in society.

If its the latter, no matter how productive they are in other things, what role do they really have in the global problem solving?