Internet Forums: Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control...

[SEAM]

If anyone thinks their posts aren't put under a microscope, think again!

A bit of awareness is all it takes.. Study these, and think, before you post.
The wolves are watching, and are not easily detected.

Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2011/04/cointelpro-techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control-of-an-internet-forum.html

[Lord Sidious]

What you say is true.
I know that things I have said in public and on the net are in my WA Police file.
So the rule is, if you don't want it to come back and bite you on the bum, don't type it up.
So, everytime you see a post of mine, I stand behind every single character.

[RMorgan]

Very nice post. Everyone should read that.

[modwiz]

I am with M'lord on this one. I am very aware of being watched and show some care as to my publicly shared thoughts. Still, there is being wise, being a fool, or being a coward. Somebody(s) has to stick their head out of the foxhole. Otherwise just settle down and slit your wrists. What is happening is no joke and clowns are useless eaters at this time in history.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Seam interresting worth knowing.....I've been with the forum since the begining and noticed its participents come and go....I've only joined recently as my keyboard skills were
non existent that is why you may notice I edit my posts a lot to get them right..LOL..but I'm getting better. Anyway after the Charles incident a lot of members left and new onesjoined and I've
noticed a lot have joined recently, and on some of the threads I've been on , there has been a few odd posts ,but in general the ones I've posted on have been good imho. I don't get on a lot of the threads because they are usually gone while I'm engrossed on the one I'm replying to at that moment. I've said on posts we are bound to be monitored so beware of that, and as Sid said if your honest in your answers and beliefs you cannot go far wrong.This is a education and discussion forum for me so it is ok to change your mind in view of new info/evidence, but just to pop onto a thread and 'shout' a sentence and not stay to back it up is a bit rude imho, though this has only happened to me a couple of times.

On the whole the site is well monitored and people like any family are polite and amicable withthe occasional squabble and fall out, so as you say be aware their may be people on here up
to mischief....Cheers Steve

[Unified Serenity]

I don't know if it applies here, but a lot of things I post don't even seem to get on the front page. I have to go back to my record of posts to easily see replies. So, are they sliding threads or is it just a glitch? Most recent posts should go to the top, but it pays to look into each heading and find some gems.

[Carmody]

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

This is why I do not respond to any communication to elicit specific responses from me, either privately (PM) or publicly. A good person may ask me something in PM or in confidence.. and I invariably give them silence in return.

My opinion and thus my given 'cards' and their predictability are kept to myself. Even that has aspects of revelation to it, you see?

I'm just a bump on a rock. Move along now, nothing to see here.

'nuff said.

example, In one of Ilie's threads, IRRC, I admitted that I could, if I gave myself the time, capacity and inclination, create a multitude of Over-unity devices. I said that the concepts, the basic concepts are, to me, relatively simple, once known.

However, there is great danger at this time. The mass of psychologically unevolved individuals that would take such things and dilute them down into dangerous areas of use and misuse is the biggest problem facing humankind today. (see page 3 and 4 of the 'Life in Vilcabamba' thread, for some background of the psychological issues and how they tend to flow from the mass of humanity)

it is not niburu, Mayan calendars, politicians, elites, draconians, toxic waste, peak oil, dead seas and corexit, UFO's aliens----- or anything else.

It is the release of over unity technology and all associated psychological shift/change and how this will transform/shape/change/alter humankind in both expression and flow. The world can begin it's change with even just a few words and perhaps those words have been written or spoken, already. Like an over-pressured balloon..the hole starts somewhere.

There is an immense differential of pressure, in 'state of affairs' on either side of that 'balloon skin' and whomever gets to be the trigger or the key, if it be singular....will probably not survive the event. That is the history of such things.

The best we can hope for, is if it happens in multiple ways and places, at the same time.

Which we seem to be headed for.

At the same time, a parallel motion of psychological change will occur.

The reason I mention all of this in this thread, is that the moment I mentioned this aspect of knowing, in Ilie's thread, that is when my telephone started to go crazy. Again. For the umpteenth time.

I ALSO received direct warning within 24 hours, from somone I know.

Basically monitoring my phone with a distant link has the timing and character of the ring being completely off.

Those guys need to be more invisible. I am led to the conclusion that a force external to my given country of residence is recording all my communication of any sort, and it is not involving the given governments of my country. For if they were, the monitoring of my phone calls would be more invisible.

Basically, one agent or group raises his hand to point with his pen to an associate to exclaim physically (while looking at my actions and musings)...and accidentally pokes another observer from some other organization..in the eye. :p Just a mite crowded.

[TargeT]

I don't know if it applies here, but a lot of things I post don't even seem to get on the front page. I have to go back to my record of posts to easily see replies. So, are they sliding threads or is it just a glitch? Most recent posts should go to the top, but it pays to look into each heading and find some gems.

use "todays posts" instead, that always works :)



Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

This is why I do not respond to any communication to elicit specific responses from me, either privately (PM) or publicly. A good person may ask me something in PM or in confidence.. and I invariably give them silence in return.

My opinion and thus my given 'cards' and their predictability are kept to myself. Even that has aspects of revelation to it, you see?

I'm just a bump on a rock. Move along now, nothing to see here.

'nuff said.

I can say that I've definately been ignored by Carmody quite a few times... haha....



As to the OP, I couldn't give a damn who reads what I write here, I mean every word of it and proudly display who I am for all to see.

My license plate tells you who I am on my vehicle, I have a Fibonacci sequence decal.. Kiss my ass, I am who I am!

Sorry, living in fear is pathetic, this is the information age and information is power, but I will not cower away from that power, I share what I have and I seek more.

[Anno]

I found it funny to read about the posting of cop videos then coming back here and seeing one in today's posts. Most of the techniques they're talking about are visible here all the time. The problem I see it is that those doing it aren't cointelpro working for the illuminati or whoever, they're just marketers working for the different alternative brands like UFOs, Reptiles, Freemen buy Gold etc.

I don't see there's any solution to it. Especially in the Alternative as lets be honest, quite a few of our number are either properly nutty or just lazy benefit hounds looking for someone else to blame for the way their life is. That's aside from the fact that 90% of humans are dumbasses that believe anything they like the look of. At least here on Avalon we still have enough of the remaining 10%. But, as pointed out, their threads sink fast when the Reptiles and FEMA camps pop up.

[TargeT]

I don't see there's any solution to it. Especially in the Alternative as lets be honest, quite a few of our number are either properly nutty or just lazy benefit hounds looking for someone else to blame for the way their life is. That's aside from the fact that 90% of humans are dumbasses that believe anything they like the look of. At least here on Avalon we still have enough of the remaining 10%. But, as pointed out, their threads sink fast when the Reptiles and FEMA camps pop up.

I think these tech.s only would work against the "90%" (which I hope is a tad bit high) as you describe them, and as such,,,,WHO CARES!? they are already sucked into TV watching and eating GMO's; the same people who look at me crazy when I go out of my way to get grass fed beef...

I don't see a threat from this, not at all; in fact I see this post and some of the responses as a logical falisy, "appeal to fear" no real evidence is presented, mearly a concept that "could be" true; & I don't deny that it is probably being used. but honestly, would any of those tactics work against any one of you?

That list was laudable (to me).

[Carmody]

Laudable to me, to the point that I know of at least one who is exactly that: A moderator on a forum, who comes from a black op oriented corporate culture.


Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.



This is regarding one of the most technical forums on the internet, with a population of incredibly capable people. About 100,000 of them.

The warning I received, in person (mentioned in my previous post in this thread --I was told:"Stay out of trouble"), was for making a clear explanation of quantum function regarding an over-unity technology, on said forum. On this same given forum, I explained another thing, back in 2003, that led to my first clear encounter with the MIB.

These 6 main points are 'standard operating procedure' of Machiavellian intent and action, regrading the differing groups that operate in secrecy on this planet. The given government, corporate, organized crime and elitist groups practice these techniques and actions all the time.

They are exploiting the weaknesses in this given system of incarnation, this school or training ground for incarnates.

It is YOUR objective to plug up the holes, the corners of mold and darkness that they hide in and use. That is a big aspect of the physical components of your multi-dimensional evolution. To plug the holes, to shut them down, at the same time you correct the self.

After all, you can't have learning and school, without lessons.

[TargeT]

& he who learns must suffer.

I completely agree.... obviously I'm not a threat to anyone, as I've never been warned, cautioned or threatened (out side of Iraq) in my life. seems like a shame, almost an ego blow.. oh well, I'll keep trying;;; maybe eventually I'll do something worthwhile enough for someone to try and silence me.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is regarding one of the most technical forums on the internet, with a population of incredibly capable people. About 100,000 of them.Ah - good - not us :). We're only 4,000 or so.

[13th Warrior]

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

This is why I do not respond to any communication to elicit specific responses from me, either privately (PM) or publicly. A good person may ask me something in PM or in confidence.. and I invariably give them silence in return.

My opinion and thus my given 'cards' and their predictability are kept to myself. Even that has aspects of revelation to it, you see?

I'm just a bump on a rock. Move along now, nothing to see here.

'nuff said.

example, In one of Ilie's threads, IRRC, I admitted that I could, if I gave myself the time, capacity and inclination, create a multitude of Over-unity devices. I said that the concepts, the basic concepts are, to me, relatively simple, once known.

However, there is great danger at this time. The mass of psychologically unevolved individuals that would take such things and dilute them down into dangerous areas of use and misuse is the biggest problem facing humankind today. (see page 3 and 4 of the 'Life in Vilcabamba' thread, for some background of the psychological issues and how they tend to flow from the mass of humanity)

it is not niburu, Mayan calendars, politicians, elites, draconians, toxic waste, peak oil, dead seas and corexit, UFO's aliens----- or anything else.

It is the release of over unity technology and all associated psychological shift/change and how this will transform/shape/change/alter humankind in both expression and flow. The world can begin it's change with even just a few words and perhaps those words have been written or spoken, already. Like an over-pressured balloon..the hole starts somewhere.

There is an immense differential of pressure, in 'state of affairs' on either side of that 'balloon skin' and whomever gets to be the trigger or the key, if it be singular....will probably not survive the event. That is the history of such things.

The best we can hope for, is if it happens in multiple ways and places, at the same time.

Which we seem to be headed for.

At the same time, a parallel motion of psychological change will occur.

The reason I mention all of this in this thread, is that the moment I mentioned this aspect of knowing, in Ilie's thread, that is when my telephone started to go crazy. Again. For the umpteenth time.

I ALSO received direct warning within 24 hours, from somone I know.

Basically monitoring my phone with a distant link has the timing and character of the ring being completely off.

Those guys need to be more invisible. I am led to the conclusion that a force external to my given country of residence is recording all my communication of any sort, and it is not involving the given governments of my country. For if they were, the monitoring of my phone calls would be more invisible.

Basically, one agent or group raises his hand to point with his pen to an associate to exclaim physically (while looking at my actions and musings)...and accidentally pokes another observer from some other organization..in the eye. :p Just a mite crowded.

A classic example of:

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

I'll understand if you ignore me.

[music]

The "What is the Plan" website is a classic example of technique number 6 - gain control. It's a fun game - sign up, see how long it takes you to spot the agents!

[Sidney]

"Gaining Full Control" was in full swing during the Charles fiasco when I "ducked out" for a few months. I was fully aware that it was happening and a large percent of the Avalon members IMHO were oblivious to it. It was sheer chaos. We should all have our BS meters turned on high at all times. If a posting seems "off", it probably is.

[another bob]

Greetings, Friends!

Perhaps there is some lingering assumption that there exists such a thing as "private time" in this realm, a time when we are not being intimately observed. Most would be surprised to learn just how mistaken that assumption actually is. Just because we may be insensitive to the presence all around us, does not mean that we are alone. It's like an actor on stage before a sold-out audience, believing himself to be rehearsing in an empty theater.

Blessings!

[the trojan]

I read through and recognise some stuff there,that i may or may not have seen on many forums,it is an easily manipulated medium.
heres a thought though.
if you ruled this world and therefore a majority of its peoples, could you be bothered with any games or would you just be having a good time doing what you liked(unless of course thats what you liked doing) ,I mean a lot of people are doing a good job of warping the place as it is.

another thought just occured to me,It may be just an elaborate game of chess,same rules,only using real pawns,knights,etcetera
and its really good chess players who are playing the levels..........and this months celeb is going on about Bobby Fischer ,a chess master ,being the planner of 911.....see it all fits ...
Do I get my get out of jail free card now......oh thats the other game isnt it ...MONO POLY.

So where does this post fit in on the list?

[KiwiElf]

Chess - excellent analogy Trojan - first, you have to know how to "play" ;)

[SEAM]

This list is, in my opinion, "the big picture" overview. How often have you engaged in conversation with someone where you felt that the "Stoplight Signal" between their brain and their mouth was not working? I view this list as another tool set to slip into your tool belt, to provide a greater awareness when perhaps your stoplight is out of step. We have all skated figure eights around this topic for some time. I thought it was pretty cool to read a technical rendition for a change. There still exisits a measurable distance between your brain and your fingers.... think about creating a detour through the heart every now and then.... maybe they'll get bored and move along... One can only hope...

[mosquito]

Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2011/04/cointelpro-techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control-of-an-internet-forum.html

Required reading methinks !

[panopticon]

G'day All,

I found this an interesting thread and recommend everybody read it.

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[shamanseeker]

I found it funny to read about the posting of cop videos then coming back here and seeing one in today's posts. Most of the techniques they're talking about are visible here all the time. The problem I see it is that those doing it aren't cointelpro working for the illuminati or whoever, they're just marketers working for the different alternative brands like UFOs, Reptiles, Freemen buy Gold etc.

I don't see there's any solution to it. Especially in the Alternative as lets be honest, quite a few of our number are either properly nutty or just lazy benefit hounds looking for someone else to blame for the way their life is. That's aside from the fact that 90% of humans are dumbasses that believe anything they like the look of. At least here on Avalon we still have enough of the remaining 10%. But, as pointed out, their threads sink fast when the Reptiles and FEMA camps pop up.

Hi! I'm going to take this post as an example because the writer is no longer a member. I may be wrong but it seems to be a very sly way of pushing some misinformation (you decide if it's conscious or not). Firstly, there is the part about the majority of humans being dumb asses. This is a typical illuminati argument: we are stupid, we deserve what we get, we are no more than slaves and need to be treated as such. Then there is, at the end, the other ploy using a comment which makes others think that those who talk about reptiles, FEMA camps, etc are the infiltrators themselves, thus demonstrating the illuminati's fear of people such as David Icke & co!!! Then we have the buffoon who goes along with this and pops in and out of the discussion along the way! Remember this thread will attract the very same people who are attempting to misdirect the forum.

[Curt]

Shouldn't there be a lucky #7 ?.....making members so paranoid about expressing their views and engaging in conversations with 'strangers' that they self censor and become 'careful' to the point of saying nothing useful, asking nothing challenging, and gaining no new territories of understanding...

[dourpil]

What you say is true.
I know that things I have said in public and on the net are in my WA Police file.
So the rule is, if you don't want it to come back and bite you on the bum, don't type it up.
So, everytime you see a post of mine, I stand behind every single character.


I am with M'lord on this one. I am very aware of being watched and show some care as to my publicly shared thoughts. Still, there is being wise, being a fool, or being a coward. Somebody(s) has to stick their head out of the foxhole. Otherwise just settle down and slit your wrists. What is happening is no joke and clowns are useless eaters at this time in history.


Hi there! My wish is not to be trolling or offending, but please let me tell my point of view about that.
I know the Internet is being watched, maybe I personally am (however that would surprise me considering how rarely I post). Though, I beleive in the law of attraction and thus, if I'm not worried about getting in trouble because of the words I put on the internet, I probably won't.

Again, I post rarely and I'm not involved in very sensitive subjects. But I have been a young fool discovering the freedom of posting whatever I wanted without worrying about the way my words could come back at my face. I should still be careful and chose my words wisely.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Thank You OP :) This thread should be bumped as often as possible ;) Or superglued to the fridge ;)

[edit]
How about embeding into OP a text behind the link? You know to secure it in case the original site get redirected to /dev/null device ;)

[Star1111]

What you say is true.
I know that things I have said in public and on the net are in my WA Police file.
So the rule is, if you don't want it to come back and bite you on the bum, don't type it up.
So, everytime you see a post of mine, I stand behind every single character.

and THAT is why we LOVE you here!

You are a warrior!

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Thread sliding countermeasure status: active

[Guest]

I have never had my phone tapped since around 1992.......or been followed by men in suits.....or in blk..... or had those very quiet black helicopter creep up on me.... or even stranger than that -I must be crazy or paranoid:peep:

:bump2:

Nora

we are all related

[Muzz]

This should be a sticky :)

[Carmody]

This should be a sticky :)

Bumpity :bump:

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Is it not funny how fast this thread slides? ;)
BUMP!

And the sad side effect of bumping it, is for other threads to slide :(...

[Aryslan]

/bump

/sticky

Lets go mods, sticky this one it's important!

[grapevine]

bump bump bump

[Eagle]

The internet is a tool just like a gun, guns don’t kill it's the people who use them that do. The internet is used the same way both as a cure and as a virus (no pun intended). Question is, knowing at that moment when it is used as a deceptive device no matter what Forum your in.

[nearing]

I personally don't care who takes note of what I say. This is a lot of Fear Porn to keep the thinking people from having their say. Good way to lose your freedom, put duct tape across your own mouth.

[off_the grid]

I personally don't care who takes note of what I say. This is a lot of Fear Porn to keep the thinking people from having their say. Good way to lose your freedom, put duct tape across your own mouth.

Agreed. There seems to be a lot of fear on this thread and others.

It seems that some get off on it.....Get rid of the fear; and really, who gives a crap what someone might or might not do.

Our fears create many scary situations/scenarios....which actually never happen....

[CdnSirian]

Fear--oh so true. Nothing better than the likes of this whole thread to get a new-to-a-forum-person to bail immediately.

[panopticon]

:bump:

Again...

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[ThePythonicCow]

For an example of how a thread can be derailed, consider what happened in the last nine hours on the thread Farewell Colonel, many of us will miss you. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33352-Farewell-Colonel-many-of-us-will-miss-you.), between this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33352-Farewell-Colonel-many-of-us-will-miss-you.&p=341747&viewfull=1#post341747) and this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33352-Farewell-Colonel-many-of-us-will-miss-you.&p=342094&viewfull=1#post342094).

I like this present thread, and thanks for those who have been bumping it.

Our best chance to improve our resistance to such tactics is to increase the awareness of more members.

The mods certainly can't do it all, and absolutely should not be sufficiently well staffed and empowered that they could monitor and filter every post in real time.

[Lord Sidious]

Fear--oh so true. Nothing better than the likes of this whole thread to get a new-to-a-forum-person to bail immediately.

I would be disappointed if the new avalonuggets did bail.
If they did, maybe they shouldn't be on the net at all?
Why worry?
I care not a jot who monitors my posting.

[panopticon]

G'day Paul,

Thanks for pointing out the relevant posts in that thread.
It's so easy for a thread to get derailed by a simple comment and next thing you know it's "all gun blazin'".
I must admit though, sometimes the diversions that a thread takes can be interesting in themselves.
A normal conversation can evolve and develop and as you point out it is often up to the participants (in particular the person who started the thread and the active participants in it) to work out when a thread has "gone off the rails".

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks for pointing out the relevant posts in that thread.
It's so easy for a thread to get derailed by a simple comment and next thing you know it's "all gun blazin'".
I must admit though, sometimes the diversions that a thread takes can be interesting in themselves.
A normal conversation can evolve and develop and as you point out it is often up to the participants (in particular the person who started the thread and the active participants in it) to work out when a thread has "gone off the rails".

Good point.

Respectful and productive discussion can and often does wander around, and thread participants and the original poster can reach a consensus as to what's relevant and what not.

The problem isn't the wandering topic - the problem is the "guns ablazin'". One can sense, from very first post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33352-Farewell-Colonel-many-of-us-will-miss-you.&p=341747&viewfull=1#post341747) that I linked, that the mood of that thread was being shoved too the "guns ablazin" style. Just read it and see for yourself - that poster was looking to start a fight.

[Guest]

Fear--oh so true. Nothing better than the likes of this whole thread to get a new-to-a-forum-person to bail immediately.

I would be disappointed if the new avalonuggets did bail.
If they did, maybe they shouldn't be on the net at all?
Why worry?
I care not a jot who monitors my posting.




May of this year dear friend of mine and I were chatting on the phone. He asked me if I had heard of the site PA? I said no, he said you might want to take a looksie they have a lot of the same info that we talk about and I think you would learn a lot and benefit from it and fit right in. Well here I am -not going anywhere. There are some very wise, intelligent and brilliant people here.

The post I posted a page or so back is very true -they really did happen and continue to happen and even on a spirit or energy level. Not a spiritual level -those things are not spiritual. Here I will stay on the forum that does its best for the people, earth and Universes.

I am but a small potato (nugget). My views are my own only and there is no reason these things should have happened at all. I have not ever broken any Natural laws -Those are what I must adhere to. This is where my heart is.

Nora

we are all related

[Carmody]

My specific concern is where the desire to enter a thread by a given poster, is to provide the one thing: and that is the self justification for readers with an already set mind to hear the words that they themselves project in their anger and fear, as being true. To see them in print and someone arguing them. To be the angry yes man of mental reinforcement for their set minds. A method of maintaining control with and in those given readers.

It is, in the end, A two pronged attack. One... designed to keep their ground and position in the minds of their 'held' audience and...

Two..disrupt the people trying to bring the given alternative view, especially a well fleshed out factual argument of persuasive depth; to prevent them from gathering their thoughts and understanding into a cohesive whole.

It is a human action of base consideration among the empathetic and thinking persons of the world, to give room for argument and discussion.

To flesh understandings out into given cohesive whole.... and in that door provided by reasonable people.... a purposely disruptive wedge is driven by the tactical aspects of disruption of discourse.

[SEAM]

"Knowledge is Power" - was true a thousand years ago.. and will remain true a thousand years from now.

I guarantee, that if an ostrich's brain were the size of a walnut instead of a peanut, he would no longer bury it in the dirt..

"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."

For remember, fear doesn’t exist anywhere except in the mind.

"You can't make me afraid - I make me afraid" JL

[Dawn]

"You can't make me afraid - I make me afraid" JL

Yes! That is how someone else gains power over us. It is good to know their game... but deciding to voluntarily give them your power by going into fear over the game makes it easy for them to be in total control.

Look... we are infinite beings with many many bodies and many lifetimes of experiences. Being in fear just makes life miserable. Here is a quote that I will never forget. As far as I am concerned it is TRUE


"What you fear will appear", Lester Levinson

So... if you resonate with the fear frequency, then you will attract that which is fearful. What to do about it?

** Try meditating and watch the fear while you do. It will melt away and disappear as you put your attention on it.

** Light some sage or drink some chamomile tea, that will help you release the chords, and things that go bump in the night, which may be causing you to experience fear.

But, for heavens sake, don't let an idea of a 'game of watchers' still your voice! Your voice (and written words) are important. I want to hear all of your well thought out viewpoints, you enrich my life.

[panopticon]

G'day All,

As stated in the article:

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
While this is certainly an issue, at fast moving, high content forums there are lots of "noise" and it is not always a deliberate move on the part of those posting to "slide" posts into obscurity.
That having been said I reckon it is worth noting this technique and being aware of it.
Please consider this another :bump:

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[wolf_rt]

Would it be possible to increase the number of posts shown per page? With the increasing number of 'stickies' the 'forum slide' appears to be rather easy to achieve...

[Lord Sidious]

Would it be possible to increase the number of posts shown per page? With the increasing number of 'stickies' the 'forum slide' appears to be rather easy to achieve...

Go to your settings, in the top right corner.
Then, in the menu on the left where it says My Settings, click General Settings.
Go down the list to Number of Posts to Show Per Page and you can select 40, that is the max.
I have mine set to that.

[wolf_rt]

Unfortunately it appears that the default setting is also 40.. bugger.

[ThePythonicCow]

Would it be possible to increase the number of posts shown per page? With the increasing number of 'stickies' the 'forum slide' appears to be rather easy to achieve...

Good point. I just unstuck four of the eight stickies in the General Forum, that no longer seemed to warrant being stuck on the first page. Thanks.

[Carmody]

the vast # of western (financially, thus procurement of 'modern' computer gear) monitors these days are going to be 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 16:9 or 16:10 format monitors. Thus, the forum could probably be best served with a thought of layout as being of a 1080 pixel height nature. Then the width adjusted to the 1680 standard width of a few years back, which leaves room for overlap of the higher pixel width monitors of the current 'norm' for the average peruser of the forum. This is the current 'window' of presentation, so to speak: 1680 wide by 1080 high. The only changes I expect to that window in the near (year or more) future is a slight increase in width, as the last of the 1680 monitors are switched out to 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 monitors.

I've had to format and plan through the creation of two different commercial websites, so far, and those are the sort of basic issues we had to and have to deal with. As monitor resolution norms changed, we had to think through the page presentation in order to achieve maximum effectiveness and format so as to 'grease' the psychology of the observer in as comfortable and sublime as possible way. Like hanging paintings in a room - a format and layout, designed to be the most effective.

[panopticon]

G'day All,

I like this thread so just in case anyone missed it...


Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at http://www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[Ishtar]

My life is an open book and I stand by everything I think, say and do. If somebody wants to burn me at the stake for it ... so be it. It probably won't be the first time that I've exited in that way.

[wolf_rt]

the vast # of western (financially, thus procurement of 'modern' computer gear) monitors these days are going to be 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 16:9 or 16:10 format monitors

Still rocking the 1280*1024 CRT!!! Haven't seen a LCD that comes close to the colour depth of the old girl!

[ThePythonicCow]

If anyone thinks their posts aren't put under a microscope, think again!

A bit of awareness is all it takes.. Study these, and think, before you post.
The wolves are watching, and are not easily detected.

Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2011/04/cointelpro-techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control-of-an-internet-forum.html

This good material has just been posted again on our forum, as the first section of a collection of related material on this topic. See further my post in the thread The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47786-The-Gentleman-s-Guide-To-Forum-Spies--spooks-feds-etc.-&p=527204&viewfull=1#post527204).