quick somebody call somebody else!! theres something going on!!!!!

[the trojan]

This morning I added to a post in rgeard to the marine who supposedly took on the cops in new york.
In my post I commented that I thought Dallasgoldbug,was a hit or a miss in regard to the marine being fake.....
here is that post...Today 14:45 #2

Re: [Orignal full version] 1 Marine vs. 30 Cops (By. J. handy)
not that I agree with everything dallasgoldbug at wellaware1.com says,but he has an interesting vid in regard to this.
He points out quite shocking similarities between protesters on the brooklyn bridge and the cops in the above video.
He also tries to point out a man who resembles the marine in the above video,which I dont really believe.
WHy dont I really believe it is an actor?
Because they interviewed said marine on tv after the event.
If he really is an actor that is taking quite a risk.......so I dont believe the marine is not a marine......but.......oh the seeds of doubt.......

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33001-Orignal-full-version-1-Marine-vs.-30-Cops--By.-J.-handy-&p=337206#post337206

So in my curious websurfing habits I returned just now to Dallasgoldbugs site at wellaware1.com and would you believe ,he has located the marine and posted what I believe to be irrefutible proof that the marine is a fake and what a fake ,if he managed to go on prime time tv in america
check this out please......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3icPsBZ-um0&feature=player_embedded#!

I mentioned I did not get it at first,but I do now!
the chip is in the tooth!

and here he is on mainstream tv..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEm87vZ82E

IF I AM MISSING SOMETHING ,WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POINT IT OUT TO ME!

[ktlight]

He is nevertheless a marine and his family service the country back to WWII. I am still glad that he took the action and spoke as loudly as he did. No-ne else was doing it, and maybe it takes an actor to have the skills to speak as he did.

[MargueriteBee]

My feeling was and is that he did that on purpose to get it filmed. I just wonder what military on duty think, if they can see it.

[the trojan]

He is nevertheless a marine and his family service the country back to WWII. I am still glad that he took the action and spoke as loudly as he did. No-ne else was doing it, and maybe it takes an actor to have the skills to speak as he did.

did you look at the links i posted here before you posted?
He is nevertheless a marine and his family service the country back to WWII. have you researched this or are you just taking it as the truth?

[MargueriteBee]

I am going by my gut feeling. But I dont think it was negative action, just on purpose.

[the trojan]

My feeling was and is that he did that on purpose to get it filmed. I just wonder what military on duty think, if they can see it.

i reckon you are more than right.....can I suggest you read my post and go to the links....please.

[Lettherebelight]

Do you think he is acting as an agent provocateur?

[MargueriteBee]

My feeling was and is that he did that on purpose to get it filmed. I just wonder what military on duty think, if they can see it.

i reckon you are more than right.....can I suggest you read my post and go to the links....please.

OK, I will watch it again, first it made no sense.

Watched it, the tattoo on his arm is not clear enough to make a determination.

[ghostrider]

uncle GR would like to say, the first thing you learn in military service is NO camo uniforms to be worn off base. if you are on official business it's class A dress or basically suit and tie. wartime out of US border is the only time you wear camo. sporting medals and such is just look at me I'm a hero I'm somebody. I think dude was a plant to sturr the pot. strange there was a camera rolling and he worked it. yelling at the cops who were just standing there doing nothing but observation. they never spoke. YEll in my face and I walk away with a smile, I wouldn't stand there, they did , hence it was an act just part of the movie to sturr up the public perception. just my two cents worth.. who knows I could be wrong, if I am I will say in advance sorry to all if I have offended anyone....

[the trojan]

Do you think he is acting as an agent provocateur?

yup! i reckon i do .
the point I am trying to make is ,i commented on the dallasgoldbug info and I noted that i thought he was off the mark with suggestions in regard to the marine,then he comes back with something that is quite shocking....

[TWINCANS]

It does look like he has the necessary proof to back up his point about these camera-friendly moments being set ups. We'll see with his next vid's.

Also I remember us being shocked that this 'marine' yelled and was so aggressive, when the movement is being careful not to act in an aggressive fashion, and become liable for police strong arming and arrests due to 'dangerous, riotous actions'. Maybe hope was talking when he was allowed by posters to go outside the careful zone.

[Unified Serenity]

He does not look like the corrections officer just because he has a bald head and similar features. I cannot see the tattoo clearly nor the chipped tooth. I did find it funny though with him out of proper uniform and the cops just letting this guy rant on and on. I don't know what to make of this guys service, but that video is not conclusive proof for me.

[Hervé]

Seems like a live example of what's mentioned here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33011-Internet-Forums-Techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control...&p=337302&viewfull=1#post337302

... or the outline of "Noise Level" as recounted by Stan Deyo starting at 9:00 minutes into the video and which gives an idea of what length psyops can go to in order to convince people of something, especially when picked up by MSMs:


y8oQn-8YmU0

[PixieDust]

uncle GR would like to say, the first thing you learn in military service is NO camo uniforms to be worn off base. if you are on official business it's class A dress or basically suit and tie. wartime out of US border is the only time you wear camo. sporting medals and such is just look at me I'm a hero I'm somebody. ...

yessss i mentioned this on another thread with the original video. I found it very very odd that he was wearing camos out. especially claiming to be a marine. army is a bit more relaxed about wearing the camos out. thats why you see soldiers in airports in uniform. Marines aren't allowed to wear them like that. Even when my friend whos now an ex marine deployed they had to wear a certain outfit with a jacket that had their unit info on it but not camos or class As.

That was the first thing that made me question this guy. Second was throwing the ribbons in the cops faces. Eiether this guy is a disgraceful marine or a fake. Ever talk to someone who actually earns medals and ribbons? they dont throw it in your face. my friend whos an exmarine is an arrogant cocky man all he talks about is pride and honor when you get him on a marine roll but even he wouldnt throw ribbons like that to get attention.

third is at the very beginning you see his pants... they look like kakis not camo pants. So it appears that all he's wearing is the jacket, open. thats not the proper way to wear a uniform at all and if he was still active he'd get in deep sh*t for it. And if he's not active he has no buisness wearing the uniform anymore. Its all show. Marine or not... this was just for the cameras.

id really like to play this video for my exmarine friend and let him disect his uniform. he'd even be able to say what the ribbons he's flashing are for.

[Maia Gabrial]

There's one other discrepancy with Sgt Thomas' "uniform".... You don't wear ribbons on cammies....
My guess is that he's fake....Even ex Marines still have respect for the uniform after discharge....

[noprophet]

the first thing you learn in military service is NO camo uniforms to be worn off base.

I'm curious about this as I have seen at least two camouflage uniformed soldiers near the University of Washington in the past week.

Fatigues I believe they're called? Not really on my military terms.

[PixieDust]

the first thing you learn in military service is NO camo uniforms to be worn off base.

I'm curious about this as I have seen at least two camouflage uniformed soldiers near the University of Washington in the past week.

Fatigues I believe they're called? Not really on my military terms.

my hubs calls them garrisons. i think. I also believe, correct me if im wrong, but Marines are the only branch not allowed to wear them outside of base/duty. Army can wear them in the civilian world i know for sure. i think theres rules but for the most part they're allowed to. Ive seen navy out and about too.