Why in the world was "If Women Ruled the World" thread closed?

[onawah]

I needed to re-word that:
Did anyone, other than, apparently, Ilie, think that thread was divisive?
I thought it was one of the better threads I've seen on PA in a long time.
Funny in a GOOD way (unlike the Nigella thread)
Uplifting as in the Video about the Barefoot school.

[Lord Sidious]

I needed to re-word that:
Did anyone, other than, apparently, Ilie, think that thread was divisive?
I thought it was one of the better threads I've seen on PA in a long time.
Funny in a GOOD way (unlike the Nigella thread)
Uplifting as in the Video about the Barefoot school.

Dunno about divisive, but I thought the next thing we could do was have a rolling pin contest.
Maybe Ilie volunteered to be the target? :cool:

[CdnSirian]

I needed to re-word that:
Did anyone, other than, apparently, Ilie, think that thread was divisive?
I thought it was one of the better threads I've seen on PA in a long time.
Funny in a GOOD way (unlike the Nigella thread)
Uplifting as in the Video about the Barefoot school.

Dunno about divisive, but I thought the next thing we could do was have a rolling pin contest.
Maybe Ilie volunteered to be the target? :cool:

Maybe it's too scary an idea?;)

[Exist]

I would have found that thread to have been a very intriguing read considering that there have been ancient Aramaic carvings discovered that suggest Yahweh had a wife, Asherah, that was equally worshiped as a divine pair. I have also read articles, as well as thread's on this forum, as they pertain to the Sacred Feminine that I do not discount as having extreme historical value. Provided is a link with some explanation as to where I'm coming from.

http://news.discovery.com/history/god-wife-yahweh-asherah-110318.html

[PurpleLama]

My wife has a rolling pin made of marble. I would be afraid of anyone weilding that sucker, male or female.

it seems sensitivities are especially high at the moment. I was threatened with atomization for referring to "the girls" as in the collective female majority of said thread, which to me is a term of endearment and familiarity, but my redneck-ness did not come across sufficiently, so I was taken as being sexist and "inciting a gender war". I dearly love the person and said this, and it's entirely possible the other party was joking. That's my take, and I will be light hearted about it unless subsequent posts prove me wrong.

Humor is always bound to offend someone, if it's funny enough. It's best if we can laugh at ourselves at the same time, hence the current avatar "ninja llama".

[transiten]

My wife has a rolling pin made of marble. I would be afraid of anyone weilding that sucker, male or female.

it seems sensitivities are especially high at the moment. I was threatened with atomization for referring to "the girls" as in the collective female majority of said thread, which to me is a term of endearment and familiarity, but my redneck-ness did not come across sufficiently, so I was taken as being sexist and "inciting a gender war". I dearly love the person and said this, and it's entirely possible the other party was joking. That's my take, and I will be light hearted about it unless subsequent posts prove me wrong.

Humor is always bound to offend someone, if it's funny enough. It's best if we can laugh at ourselves at the same time, hence the current avatar "ninja llama".

:lol::lol::lol: I must have been guided here! Just left the thread mentioned above, having pondered this very post, and here you are PL.......well i was born feminist, but didn't read this whole thread through but of course now i'm curious to know why it was closed..........ask and ye shall recieve.....

[ulli]

My wife has a rolling pin made of marble. I would be afraid of anyone weilding that sucker, male or female.

it seems sensitivities are especially high at the moment. I was threatened with atomization for referring to "the girls" as in the collective female majority of said thread, which to me is a term of endearment and familiarity, but my redneck-ness did not come across sufficiently, so I was taken as being sexist and "inciting a gender war". I dearly love the person and said this, and it's entirely possible the other party was joking. That's my take, and I will be light hearted about it unless subsequent posts prove me wrong.

Humor is always bound to offend someone, if it's funny enough. It's best if we can laugh at ourselves at the same time, hence the current avatar "ninja llama".

I was joking.
Hmmm...I wish I didn't have to spell this out, though.
I either chose my words wrong, or your feelings of guilt clouded my meaning.
I was referring to your comment that JB's abuse of Heyoka was all over the forum...
not fair.

[transiten]

I knew you were joking ulli, even if i haven't seen you chart...oops we're not in the village now...pardon

Also it was Ilie who started the thread..... but i have a faint idea about why it was closed, come to the village and i will:gossip:

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Onawah,

The title of this thread is really not necessary :). As I've said, as the original poster I could chose to close the thread, and being the admin I did so already. The thread did not go in the direction I had in mind for it... that is all.

Now why in the world would you start a thread about a choice to close my thread I don't get it :P. Just kidding...

Of course Onawah, you can bring here the useful discussion that you saw on that thread and keep it in the direction that you intend for it ;)

Cheers!

:tea:

[Heyoka_11]

I was referring to your comment that JB's abuse of Heyoka was all over the forum...

So you acknowledge JB's :girl_wacko: abuse of poor old Heyoka as fact then? :lol:

What are we all doing here anyway?

Shouldn't we be back at the village?

FWIW, I knew you were joking :pound:

[Flash]

Since I cannot post my comment on the other thread anymore, I thought I would post it here.

Chiquetet, this was such a great video, I truly enjoy.

I also discovered that is there were any world cataclysm. the one who would survive and bring back technologies would be those people in these villages, and those grandmothers. We should copy thier example here in Europe and America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6qqqVwM6bMM

[onawah]

Here is one thing from that thread that I treasure:
6qqqVwM6bMM

It's much too good to be relegated to the scrap heap of closed threads.

Also, I would like to offer again my recommendation of Riane Eisler's books:
"I recommend "The Chalice and the Blade" and "The Power of Partnership" by Riane Eisler, for both men and women.
http://www.rianeeisler.com/chalice.htm
'Partnership politics takes us outside the box of the conventional political conversation. Instead of arguing about religious versus secular, right versus left, Eastern versus Western, capitalist versus socialist, and so forth, we focus on the long-term policies foundational for the more peaceful, equitable, and environmentally sustainable world we all want and need. Our nation and our world are hungry for new ways of thinking. As Einstein said, we can't solve problems with the same thinking that created them. And as Margaret Mead said, never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world; it's the only thing that ever did.'

Some reviews of The Chalice and the Blade:

'Amazon.com Review
Some books are like revelations, they open the spirit to unimaginable possibilities. The Chalice and the Blade is one of those magnificent key books that can transform us and...initiate fundamental changes in the world. With the most passionate eloquence, Riane Eisler proves that the dream of peace is not an impossible utopia. -- Isabelle Allende, author of The House of the Spirits
From Publishers Weekly
Women played leading roles in the first Christian communities; Jesus' teachings had a feminist bent; ancient Hebrews worshipped the prehistoric goddess-mother well into monarchic times; and Nazis, with their system of male dominance, were a direct throwback to the Indo-European or Aryan invaders whom they crudely imitated. These controversial ideas and findings suggest the thrust of Eisler's highly readable synthesis. She convincingly documents the global shift from egalitarian to patriarchal societies, interweaving new archeological evidence and feminist scholarship. In her scenario, as womenonce veneratedwere degraded to pawns controlled by men, social cooperation gave way to reliance on violence, hierarchy and authoritarianism. The book, despite its jargon, is an important contribution to social history.' "

If you are not familiar with her work, I think it's very important ( though not at all funny).

And this astro update posted on the other thread re where we are right now astrologically was illuminating and worth saving, I thought.
noprophet first posted it, but SnowBird copied this much of it in a subsequent post:

Uranus void in Aries
Actions are unconventional, radical, or surprising. Not everyone agrees on how things should go, therefore there is discord within groups. Others, who have a specific agenda, persevere to make their point despite fierce opposition. Social conditions are volatile now. The bottom could fall out. It’s a time for experimentation and deviant behaviors. Sudden, unusual, and disruptive conditions occur now that reveal deep inequalities in society and culture.

Neptune void in Aquarius
Trends are unclear. Not everything is known, there is much to suspect. The fabric of reality seems to be ripped asunder. Faith in leadership is low. Social and economic conditions are unstable and subject to devaluations. The future looks uncertain and no one is taking any chances. Beliefs about reality are challenged. Some feel overwhelmed, even flooded, literally and figuratively.

Pluto void in Capricorn
There is movement toward displaying outright power. Tolerance and patience are pushed aside in favor of drastic actions. Old wounds are reopened and confrontations forced. Power plays occur. Secret forces make their presence known. Some seek to act on their urges, others attempt to stop them. Deep secrets are revealed. A collective cleansing is in order.

http://alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/astro...T5=Brewster,MA

Flash and I had the same idea at the same moment!

[mosquito]

I also thought the thread was interesting and capable of producing a good discussion, so why not carry on here ...

My post about grandmothers and young girls was only half in jest :

We have a thousand odd years worth of solid evidence, brought into clear focus these days, of just how good elected male "leaders" are. And if we look at the women (not all, admitedly) who've come to power in recent years we can see the masculine principle at work, behind the guise of womanhood. (Thatcher, Rice, Clinton spring most readily to mind).

I've said in other threads that I'd rather see a council of wise elders in charge of the human family; maybe we ought to prohibit any male under the age of 60 from holding office.

As for girls - well on the many varied paths I've trod on my journey so far, I have to say that pre-adolescent girls (10 - 12) are the warmest, loveliest, most openly loving creatures on 2 legs; they still have that delightful little girl energy, with compassion and understanding thrown in, but without all the hormonal/reproductive energies which take over as they advance in years. Whether they'd make good leaders is another matter, but how about this as an idea :

A body of grandmothers and those men who can clearly demonstrate wisdom guiding us; and a council of girls with the power of veto. (Much like the British house of lords or the US senate were supposed to function). OR ... vice versa !! After all - what is a society or community which doesn't act responsibly and lovingly toward its' children ?

Yes, I'm thinking very much outside the box here, it would be nice if we could have a stimulating discussion, being mindful yet also playful. :p

[jcocks]

I also thought the thread was interesting and capable of producing a good discussion, so why not carry on here ...

My post about grandmothers and young girls was only half in jest :

We have a thousand odd years worth of solid evidence, brought into clear focus these days, of just how good elected male "leaders" are. And if we look at the women (not all, admitedly) who've come to power in recent years we can see the masculine principle at work, behind the guise of womanhood. (Thatcher, Rice, Clinton spring most readily to mind).

I've said in other threads that I'd rather see a council of wise elders in charge of the human family; maybe we ought to prohibit any male under the age of 60 from holding office.

As for girls - well on the many varied paths I've trod on my journey so far, I have to say that pre-adolescent girls (10 - 12) are the warmest, loveliest, most openly loving creatures on 2 legs; they still have that delightful little girl energy, with compassion and understanding thrown in, but without all the hormonal/reproductive energies which take over as they advance in years. Whether they'd make good leaders is another matter, but how about this as an idea :

A body of grandmothers and those men who can clearly demonstrate wisdom guiding us; and a council of girls with the power of veto. (Much like the British house of lords or the US senate were supposed to function). OR ... vice versa !! After all - what is a society or community which doesn't act responsibly and lovingly toward its' children ?

Yes, I'm thinking very much outside the box here, it would be nice if we could have a stimulating discussion, being mindful yet also playful. :p

That looks like it would be interesting.

I think applicants should be screened by someone who is "sensitive" and can tell if the person is applying for a position in the council for the good of all or for personal gain.Only those who are applying for the greater good should be admitted. Also, banning males under 60 is a bit too blanket a rule, if you know what I mean. There are many many good wise men under the age of 60 - and they're not neccessarily in the public eye. In fact, I would be willing to bet that many would actively avoid it (including yours truly). The probem with politics at the moment is that it demands a certain type of person - who is quite often only in it for personal gain. You see it time and time again that those who enter politics to try to improve the world get eaten up and spat out a lesser person. Often they're also made utter fools of in the purpose.

I've often been told I should go into poitics, but that - above - is why I haven't. I'm smart enough to know I would make no difference whatsoever in the current system. It would break me, and take delight in doing so. So I wait, and post on avalon....;)


The problem with politicians is that they're politicians. So - number one rule for the new order - no politicians may apply. :)

[Lord Sidious]

I would have found that thread to have been a very intriguing read considering that there have been ancient Aramaic carvings discovered that suggest Yahweh had a wife, Asherah, that was equally worshiped as a divine pair. I have also read articles, as well as thread's on this forum, as they pertain to the Sacred Feminine that I do not discount as having extreme historical value. Provided is a link with some explanation as to where I'm coming from.

http://news.discovery.com/history/god-wife-yahweh-asherah-110318.html

Thanks for that link, much appreciated.
Yet more evidence that jehovah is enlil.



I was referring to your comment that JB's abuse of Heyoka was all over the forum...

So you acknowledge JB's :girl_wacko: abuse of poor old Heyoka as fact then? :lol:

What are we all doing here anyway?

Shouldn't we be back at the village?

FWIW, I knew you were joking :pound:

Back In The Village?
Ok, we can do that. :cool:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQ4i_8qdeg