CIA Mind control Techniques......

[Cidersomerset]

This 1979 Documentry tells how the intelligence agencies manipulated and abused people for the creation of some type of 'Brain washing drugs' and Walters Charactor in 'Fringe' is refrencing it all the time on the show.They found the fabled 'magic mushrooms'
in Mexico. This is another part of the LSD and mind control story.....

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Fringe is a great series..

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Cheers Steve

[Cidersomerset]

mind control thru Hypnosis

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[efields]

Along with the mind control from Off World Sources, its a miracle that we exist at all. It's just that we taste so good, they don't want to give it up...

[Maia Gabrial]

Along with the mind control from Off World Sources, its a miracle that we exist at all. It's just that we taste so good, they don't want to give it up...

I wonder - do we taste like fish or chicken? :becky:

[Carmen]

Actually, we taste like pork! The ancient Maoris called pakehas (white men) "the long pork".

[spiritguide]

The question is what is addiction and what will one do to quench this thirst? In most instances it is anything you want.

[efields]

HMMMMM Pork The Cadillac of fine meats.

Homer Simpson

[Cidersomerset]

The US after the war saved top Nazi biological warfare experts from hanging to help them with their chemical weapons programme after the war.
Quite sickening but a product of the cold war and TPTB manipulating both sides to build better and nastier ways to kill each other...
Its the CIA role to make this happen and kill anyone in their way..

The CIA top secret headquarters were in the offices of FB Farmin in Frankfurt....
Artichoke was a Brainwashing and torture experiments using drugs ...
probably still going on...LSD and drugs was all part of 'THE DIRTY TRICKS TEAM'

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The Anthrax terrorists after 9/11 were probably CIA, orchastrated deffinately supplied....

Frank Olson was suisided by by the CIA in 1953 because he was about disclose that the US used biological weapons in Korea. in 1975 the government officials responcible for covering up the case was Rumsfedt and Chaney....SURPRISE, SURPRISE....

[Cidersomerset]

Alex Jones exposes subliminal adds to stop people protesting....

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Steve

[Maia Gabrial]

The CIA has been into so many illegal and heinous things. They get quite a chunk of taxpayers money, too. How did this happen? Could Bush Senior former head of the CIA, have had a hand in ensuring that this evil power extended so far and wide?

In The White Hats Report #31, it's explained that Bush Senior is losing his mind. Can anything be more scarier than an evil man who misuses power?

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Maia ......No that is very scary ...........I have been listening to the 1st hour of Jesse Ventura & Dick Russells audio book '63 Documents...' that ShadowStalker
put up and its about the CIA assassination manule and the explanation and scenarios of how to murder targets and get away, its from the 50/60's and is very graphic
and decribes the most efficient form of assassination is a fall of 75ft or more onto a hard surface ,and explains how to do it.....

I presssume all this and much nore sophisticated stuff is going on behind the scenes of the events being portrayed on mainstream news , and most people have not got a
clue...Steve..

[Cidersomerset]

I am watching the Derren Brown Assassin experiment again for the 4th time and i still find it amazing......Straight from the start it is monitored by experts.

The references and film clips are genuinely nuetral and as he starts hypnotising the group.Derren reminds us under 1952 hypnotism act which forbids

its being shown on TV in case someone goes under at home and cannot be brought out...( which is proof how dangerous the law thinks it is )

Each stage of the experiment is designed to replicate what Sirhan Sirhan said what he could remember of the events and what is in the public domain....

There is no way this is fake as the press have been trying to debunk him for years and he has

put thousands of people under over the years...The detail put into this shows that mind control is easy under the right

cicumstances with the right subjects. So all the assassinations done by lone strange gunman could have been orchstrated...Just ask the whistleblower

supersoldiers.....Scary Stuff...cheers Steve

[Hervé]

Hypnosis and the subjects who are under such a control bring forth a wealth of implications when analysed thoroughly...

Some of you must have heard of, or read, the experiment of "The third man in the room"?

Here is one version taken from http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/timeline.htm:



There is a little known fact about hypnosis that is illustrated by the following story:
A subject was told under hypnosis that when he was awakened he would be unable to see a third man in the room who, it was suggested to him, would have become invisible. All the "proper" suggestions to make this "true" were given, such as "you will NOT see so- and-so" etc... When the subject was awakened, lo and behold! the suggestions did NOT work.

Why? Because they went against his belief system. He did NOT believe that a person could become invisible.

So, another trial was made. The subject was hypnotized again and was told that the third man was leaving the room... that he had been called away on urgent business, and the scene of him getting on his coat and hat was described... the door was opened and shut to provide "sound effects," and then the subject was brought out of the trance.

Guess what happened?

He was UNABLE TO SEE the Third Man.

Why? Because his perceptions were modified according to his beliefs. Certain "censors" in his brain were activated in a manner that was acceptable to his ego survival instincts.

The ways and means that we ensure survival of the ego are established pretty early in life by our parental and societal programming. This conditioning determines what IS or is NOT possible; what we are "allowed" to believe in order to be accepted. We learn this first by learning what pleases our parents and then later we modify our belief based on what pleases our society - our peers - to believe.

Anyway, to return to our story, the Third Man went about the room picking things up and setting them down and doing all sorts of things to test the subject's awareness of his presence, and the subject became utterly hysterical at this "anomalous" activity! He could see objects moving through the air, doors opening and closing, but he could NOT see the SOURCE because he did not believe that there was another man in the room.

So, what are the implications of this factor of human consciousness? (By the way, this is also the reason why most therapy to stop bad habits does not work - they attempt to operate against a "belief system" that is imprinted in the subconscious that this or that habit is essential to survival.)

One of the first things we might observe is that everyone has a different set of beliefs based upon their social and familial conditioning, and that these beliefs determine how much of the OBJECTIVE reality anyone is able to access.

In the above story, the objective reality IS WHAT IT IS, whether it is truly objective, or only a consensus reality. In this story, there is clearly a big part of that reality that is inaccessable to the subject due to a perception censor which was activated by the suggestions of the hypnotist. That is to say, the subject has a strong belief, based upon his CHOICE as to who or what to believe - the hypnotist or his own, unfettered observations of reality. In this case, he has chosen to believe the hypnotist and not what he might be able to observe if he dispensed with the perception censor put in place by the hypnotist who activated his "belief center" - even if that activation was fraudulent.

And so it is with nearly all human beings: we believe the hypnotist - the "official culture" - and we are able, with preternatural cunning, to deny what is often right in front of our faces. And in the case of the hypnosis subject, he is entirely at the mercy of the "Invisible Man" because he chooses not to see him.

Thus... anyone can be hypnoptized, it's just a matter of contourning the individual's belief system.

Thus "magic" and all these supernatural phenomena... rendered unable to see who's doing it.

Thus "terrorism"... inquisition... crusades... Hashshashins... genocides... all for the "good cause" and with little justifications needed like "the commies are invading Panama/Guatemala/Honduras/Chile/etc..."

Thus abductees and their recounts of how an entire planet can be programmed... which I think is what efields, above, is talking about. If not, here is a reference about it: Programming of a Planet (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip)... a simplified version of it being the one of the magician getting tired of chasing his flock of sheep around and ending up hypnotizing the whole lot... that it's good for them to keep together and be sheered and slaughtered and roasted and...

... and on, and on, and on...

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Amzer good stuff....I don't know if you have seen the experiment, there are some funny momments in it....The experiments are all designed to find the person most
likely to perform the deed and the whittling down proccess is interesting....I've always thought I could not be hypnitised because logically it seemed to me I would see right
thru it and my brain would reject it , but I'm not so sure now..LOL....I have seen live shows where a hypnotist gets members of the audiance to prance about on stage like
a chicken and eat a raw onion thinking it a apple etc..The most impressive one i saw about 25 yrs ago when we had a little caberet in a local pubs function room and the
illusionist hypnitised a woman so that she would be rigid as a board and lay between two tops of chairs, then removed one of the chairs and she remained horizontal
resting on her shoulders legs straight out. This was in the middle of the hall as there was no stage and everyone could see there was no support !!!

Anyway back to Derren the 2 experts said its impossible for someone to be mind controlled to kill someone unless they were presupposed to do so. Which is unlikely
in this candidates case as he looked as if he would not kill a fly, which is what Sirhan Sirhan brother said in a clip in the programme...
The wider issue of mind control by culture and enviroment is true as can be seen in the mainstream now with the policies our governments assure us, are in our best interest..

[Guest]

HMMMMM Pork The Cadillac of fine meats.

Homer Simpson

Oh Yuck I cannot stand pig

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we are all related

[Hervé]

Actually, we taste like pork! The ancient Maoris called pakehas (white men) "the long pork".

That may also be the result of a very "long memory" beside cannibals' culinary experiences, since any versed geneticist could demonstrate that pigs are wild boar-human hybrids... hence the successful graft of pig skin on badly burnt humans... presumably, that's what the current Monsanto employees used to perform back in the days of Atlantis... hence, "frankenfood" is not that far off the mark...

Now, back to hypnosis and mind control, assassination perpetrators just need to be convince in someways that they are just using water pistols or are in a paint-ball fight... or just holding a camera and taking pictures... who knows? "It's all a game!" kind of stuff and who wouldn't want to play... right?

[Cidersomerset]

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[winston smith1971]

This is an excellent film that depicts what is happening now or in the near future. David Icke belives John Carpenter who worked with George Lucas on other projects and wrote directed THEY LIVE!!! is an insider to whats really going on.
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[muxfolder]

They Live is one of my favorite films ever. I think every Avaloanians should see it.:)

[mountain_jim]

My partner and I just starting watching Fringe - Season 1 on dvd rentals (netflix).

So we have a long journey to go on there yet....

I recommend Marrs - The Rise of the 4th Reich for a good summary of the facts of how the CIA followed from the Nazi's and US intelligence in WWII.

On the documentary Magic Trip, the additional features on dvd include a complete audio recording of Ken Kesey's first LSD trip, administered by the doctors at the a hospital for the CIA program.

The CIA did not realize the Pandora's Box they were opening, imho, as Kesey and others brought this experience to the Acid Tests, Grateful Dead, and with help publicising from Leary the whole 60's sub-culture. A lot of folks lives and reality tunnels were opened wide by this experience.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/ken-kesey-first-lsd-trip/



While working at the mental hospital that inspired his novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Ken Kesey became one of the first Americans to take LSD. You can relive his historic experience, thanks to the psychedelic clip above from Alex Gibney’s new documentary, Magic Trip.

Doctors asked Kesey to participate in clinical research documenting the drug’s mind-melting capabilities in 1960. They sequestered him in a room with a tape recorder and an attendant, and Kesey offered play-by-play on hallucinations that included talking frogs, mummies and a Wollensak tape recorder that suddenly seemed to sprout a beard.

The audio tapes were discovered decades later in an Oregon barn by filmmaker Gibney. As seen in the exclusive clip above from Magic Trip, Gibney and co-director Alison Ellwood re-enacted the historic drug test with trippy sequences animated by the Imaginary Forces studio.

Magic Trip follows Kesey’s adventures, including leading a band of LSD-taking Merry Pranksters across the country in a converted school bus, staging acid-drenched happenings with the Grateful Dead.

Toward the end of his rambling commentary in the clip above, Kesey hints at his future role as psychotropic evangelist: “I felt like I discovered a hole in the center of the Earth and you could see jewelry down there, and you wanted other people to go down there and enjoy it.”




http://www.openculture.com/2011/08/ken_keseys_first_lsd_trip_animated.html


Back in 1959, Ken Kesey, then a grad student in Stanford’s creative writing program, started participating in government-sponsored medical research that tested a range of hallucinogens — LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, and the rest. As part of the research project, Kesey spoke into a taperecorder and recounted the ins-and-outs of his hallucinations. These tapes were eventually stored away, and Kesey went on to write One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, a book that now sits on TIME’s list of the 100 Best English-Language Novels since 1923.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi mountain Jim I love fringe just watched episode 9 season 4 great seeries.......and it gets better as with all sci/fi shows some episodes are made up of
sub plots and 'stocking fillers' ....The main premise of parrallel worlds and the main storyline are brilliant, cannot say more till you have caught up....LOL
LSD and hallucinogenic drugs are also a feature in Walters experiments in altered states and perceptions of reality.....

Another great show was Rubicon which was pulled after one season because in most peoples opininion who saw it it was very near the mark !!!! very worth watching....



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Another thread of disclosure to the reality of the universe and our part in it as 'Human creators' ...'Gods' is thru the Ion material i post and mention here and there.
In my opinion it runs parrallel to most of the info we talk about here and crosses over now and then, its complicated and simple at the same time and takes a while to get into

I just listened to Bobs Nevritts latest podcast interview imho its fantastic, but does not reasonate with everyone.....anyone from the advanced school of mind bending reality
here it is....you have to listen very carefully and even i have to listen a couple times and i've heard hundreds of hours of it....LOL..Steve

Recorded....20th January 2012

http://fivebodied.com/archives/audio/catalog/Bob_Audio/Jordan_Berk/2012-01-20-Jordan_Berk-01.mp3