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jorr lundstrom
26th October 2011, 14:40
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This interview was conducted back in 1985 with trained subversice KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov.

He lays out 4 sets used to transform the thinking and behavior of an entire population, over generations.

RMorgan
26th October 2011, 14:51
Thank Jorr! Amazing video!!

ROMANWKT
26th October 2011, 15:00
Yes Jorr

this is very good example, of what is the result of strategic nonsense, screwing up people who don't know who or what they are, I saw this video a long time ago, how do we turn this around????

regards to you
roman

Lord Sidious
26th October 2011, 15:02
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jorr lundstrom
26th October 2011, 23:22
Thank you Lord Sid. This guy is talking load and clear. Maybye someone hears

wot he says, maybye..................................who knows?

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moonchild
27th October 2011, 00:26
I don't see the video......?

jorr lundstrom
27th October 2011, 00:34
I just tested it and it was ok.

moonchild
27th October 2011, 00:44
Perhaps a link?

jorr lundstrom
27th October 2011, 01:23
Perhaps a link?

This is the URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMWVUoYNezU&feature=player_embedded

Try it. Special price for ya. LOL

Seikou-Kishi
27th October 2011, 02:05
So a Russian immigrant warning about the promulgation of foreign ideologies is teaching at a university? I can't decide whether that's just irony or a bit of sleight of hand on his part.

Lord Sidious
27th October 2011, 02:50
So a Russian immigrant warning about the promulgation of foreign ideologies is teaching at a university? I can't decide whether that's just irony or a bit of sleight of hand on his part.

Not just any immigrant of course.

Siberia9
27th October 2011, 04:52
I remember this video about the social engineering and what is to come of from it, I gave it out to everyone I knew many years ago but no one took it seriously, they just don't get it. We are not insane enough or motivated to be the Illuminati/PTB, nor are we brain dead enough to be good cattle, so I guess it is us that will be extinct in the near future, unless something drastic happens,,, you will excuse me if I don't hold my breath. uht oh, here comes all the flowers rainbows and ascension stuff to save us. sorry I'm just feeling cynical about it all today.

wolf_rt
27th October 2011, 06:09
interesting stuff... especially his closing statements.

Faith... hmmm... I don't know if i have faith in the 'Oneness' in the same way you would have faith in 'God'... Is it faith in myself then? I am part of the Oneness after all...

It somehow seems dangerous...

Sirius White
27th October 2011, 10:22
I remember this video about the social engineering and what is to come of from it, I gave it out to everyone I knew many years ago but no one took it seriously, they just don't get it. We are not insane enough or motivated to be the Illuminati/PTB, nor are we brain dead enough to be good cattle, so I guess it is us that will be extinct in the near future, unless something drastic happens,,, you will excuse me if I don't hold my breath. uht oh, here comes all the flowers rainbows and ascension stuff to save us. sorry I'm just feeling cynical about it all today.

I understand what you mean totally. It sucks to be between a rock and a hard place.

But your time is coming soon :) Don't worry

toothpick
27th October 2011, 13:37
Great video jorr.
Hadn,t seen this one before, loved it, thanks, man.
You too Lord Sidious, excellant link, i,m going to copy this perfect lesson on subversion.
This man is a World class expert on idealogical subversion, no question about that.
Learn something everyday, that,s what i say.

spiritguide
27th October 2011, 15:30
Always questioning authority will allow a person to circumvent this system. Most military boot camps use this system to indoctronate the people into their branch of service where one is to be a team member.

Hervé
27th October 2011, 17:06
jorr, thank you for posting that video!

As he keeps repeating: it doesn't matter anymore if you shower them with documented facts... they won't believe you anyway! There's your answer Siberia9 and Seikou... just demonstrating that it doesn't matter any longer.

The "in your face" not even hiding in "plain sight" anymore.

His statements finally gave me the clue as to what was happening, for example since it works at all scale, on the Elenin threads:


Exposure to true information does not matter anymore: A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information.

The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with informations [which are] authentic, true, with documents, with pictures [...] he will refuse to believe it.

That's the tragedy of the demoralization [step].

It gives the rationale behind all these Doom & Gloom propaganda from all corners that have been going on for so long... and no amount of actual facts could deter the believers... indicative of their state of mind!

The Rockefeller funded Russian "revolution" has been at it for a long time... ever read this booklet: The Soviet Art of Brainwashing (http://www.scribd.com/doc/7680588/The-Soviet-Art-of-Brainwashing)?

This also provides an explanation as to why the likes of Alex Jones, David Ickes or Bill Deagle are still alive since, first, it doesn't matter anymore, second, their data still further the doom & gloom and, third, they gather in their wakes the ones to be targetted for further demoralization...

Since no amount of real, actual facts have any bearing on changing this planned, intended situation... there isn't much left in term of solution except the one advocated by Bill and Inelia: the raising of individual vibration (see this page (http://www.whale.to/v/tone.html) for why that would work).

jorr lundstrom
27th October 2011, 21:46
Right now I wish I could say something, But when I look at the world and

how people acts and wot they think is important it leaves me speechless.

I really dunno wot to say right now...........................................

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spiritguide
28th October 2011, 00:04
The system at play would like you to believe that you cannot beat it. Most can by not letting their emotions rule. There are schools that train people to resist and evade this type of control. The reason that these schools are not widely known is because they are classified. One such school is the U.S. Navy's SERE school (survival,evade,retention and escape). Keep your mind yours!

:peace:

Lord Sidious
28th October 2011, 03:01
The system at play would like you to believe that you cannot beat it. Most can by not letting their emotions rule. There are schools that train people to resist and evade this type of control. The reason that these schools are not widely known is because they are classified. One such school is the U.S. Navy's SERE school (survival,evade,retention and escape). Keep your mind yours!

:peace:

That is the school where Jesse ''The Body'' Ventura was waterboarded as part of his training.

spiritguide
28th October 2011, 07:49
You are correct Lord Sid... If the truth be known, there are thousands of graduates amongst us everywhere. Most of them are Guardian Angels .

:peace:

Lord Sidious
28th October 2011, 10:05
You are correct Lord Sid... If the truth be known, there are thousands of graduates amongst us everywhere. Most of them are Guardian Angels .

:peace:

I heard about them.


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spiritguide
28th October 2011, 11:22
LOL... Them also,

Lord Sidious
28th October 2011, 11:24
LOL... Them also,

Nothing like a nice Panhead, with apehangers, loud pipes and an open road for it.
Being a full patched member wouldn't be too bad either. ;)

PathWalker
28th October 2011, 12:19
If you identify your programming, you can change it with your free will and perseverance.
The first step for liberty is identifying your limitations.

grapevine
28th October 2011, 12:46
Very informative thread from OP and contributors - many thanks all. Don't want to sound even more depressing but in one of his interviews Jordan Maxwell said that it was already too late to stop the New World Order. Once that happens we'll all be hog-tied and well and truly stuffed.

Er - got a Plan B anyone?

Lord Sidious
28th October 2011, 13:11
Very informative thread from OP and contributors - many thanks all. Don't want to sound even more depressing but in one of his interviews Jordan Maxwell said that it was already too late to stop the New World Order. Once that happens we'll all be hog-tied and well and truly stuffed.

Er - got a Plan B anyone?

He is right.
But only if you believe he is right.
If you don't, then he is wrong, dead wrong.
I have a feeling that they are losing right now.
And now that Saif Al Islam, Colonel Qaddafi's son has surfaced to show they lied about him being taken prisoner, they have been shown to be liars.
When the Colonel himself returns, they are in deep trouble.

jorr lundstrom
28th October 2011, 22:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdwzmEicbMU&feature=player_embedded

MiguelQ
29th October 2011, 00:07
Ok but who is going to be shot us?

spiritguide
5th November 2011, 13:29
Ok but who is going to be shot us?

Do you have a fear of being shot? Have you been shot yet? Overcome fear totally and you will see clearer. Being shot for upholding your truths is far better than being subjugated by evil! IMHO

:peace: