Multiple sclerosis

[gandra99]

Is there any experience in alternative healing Multiple sclerosis. it is the initial stage. I pray for help. thx

[seko]

Best wishes for you and sending you love and good vibes to you gandra99!:grouphug:

Let me pass you this info about MMS and multiple sclerosis


I have been using MMS for MS symptoms just over 2 months and am seeing things which I love. For now what about the reduction of the skin lymph glands? I think this is a major sign of what may be happening inside all the other organs and glands. I had enlarged lymph below my breasts, under my arms and stomach. My holistic dr said they were swollen lymph glands. The computer allergist specialist said they had strep, mold and other virus and bacterial overloads. These glands are a part of the skin and look like fat deposits. I have had lymph massage drainage and this helped but nothing permanent. They the Lymph deposits on my trunk underarms, and lower stomach look like they are dissolving. I also have small tumors around these lymph glands and they are too getting smaller. Does anyone know of anyone else with this experience. I think if it is doing this to my outsides it is also doing this to my pancreas, bowels (are loaded with glands, immune glands,)Brain in MS, and thyroid one side was swollen last week when I saw the dentist. I am also regaining better function with my Lungs. I would appreciate any support on this issue. Links experiences etc.

http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/?p=490

[Carmen]

Plenty of vitamin D, in the form of ingested vitamins and sunshine.

[161803398]

I dont know much about this guy and he is in Belgium at the moment:

http://www.keshefoundation.com/en/applications/medical

[vibrations]

I can tell you that the phenomena is strongly connected with a traumatic experience which lead to the state when the affected person starts to blame him or herself for the tragedy or whatever is the reason for trauma.
The most helpful action to take would be to focus on the event (if it is known, we normally speak of the death of some loving person, severe injuries or something similar) and with a help of some keen regression therapist tried to deactivate the event in subconscious mind. The healing can be achieved if the person is willing to collaborate which is not always the case because very strong feeling of guilt does not allow her or him to do anything to get better.

[gandra99]

I can tell you that the phenomena is strongly connected with a traumatic experience which lead to the state when the affected person starts to blame him or herself for the tragedy or whatever is the reason for trauma.
The most helpful action to take would be to focus on the event (if it is known, we normally speak of the death of some loving person, severe injuries or something similar) and with a help of some keen regression therapist tried to deactivate the event in subconscious mind. The healing can be achieved if the person is willing to collaborate which is not always the case because very strong feeling of guilt does not allow her or him to do anything to get better.

It is the trauma of war. The army was compulsory for all healthy men in Serbia. When the civil war began in Kosovo, many have ended up there. Some of the bullets and some of the radiation / NATO bombs /. My friend / write in his name / this year received a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. Since the war is over 11 years. He now has 33.

[Chuck]

gandra99, check out this thread, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22936-Advice-and-help-needed

Lots of good information

Best wishes.

[enfoldedblue]

I was told by the doctors that I had MS in 2009. I immediately got the book "The MS Recovery Diet". It really alleviated a lot of the fear and gave me a real sense of hope. It is written by two women who reversed their MS symptoms through changing their diet (One woman had MS for more than 20 years and was bed-ridden...now she gardens and chops wood!). The diet is one that is very healthy...not something dangerous in any way...so you can only benefit health-wise from following it. In fact my father decided to try it and felt it greatly improved his health. This year I actually found out that I don't have MS...my nervous system was being greatly affected by a kundalini rising that was linked to my spiritual practices. I am lucky...but for over a year I believed I had MS so I really understand what it feels like to recieve such a diagnosis. For me one of the most important things was allowing the overwhelming fear to rise up and be realeased. It was a real challenge not to try to push the fear away...or to wallow in it. The experience helped me to learn to find that place of peaceful love within...in that space nothing else matters. Another thing that I felt really helped me with the experience was I decided not to see the illness as enemy that needed to be fought, instead I saw it as a teacher, something that came into my life to help me (force me) to become incredibly attuned to my body and it's needs. Please PM me if you would like to discuss this further.

LOVE ALLways, c

[joelmags]

Pat Wagner can help. She had severe MS. Now she is healed and she helps other people with MS.

Please go to http://www.olg.com/beelady/History.htm for her story.

[daledo]

There are 2 things I want to say about personally dealing with MS for three years now.

1. Never give up.
2. Don't trust the doctors.

I will put together a list of all the things I did to help my body heal naturally without any synthetic prescriptions or their side effects. Just private message me to remind me. I post alot and am a little scatter brained at times so I might forget to do it.

[Sidney]

Have you had any flu shots lately?? that could trigger it. So detox detox detox. Bentonite clay, chlorella etc. Detoxing is one of the most important things regarding chronic illnesses. I have Lyme, very similar to MS. in fact many cases of MS are actually Lyme. You may want to have your dr test you, but only the Western Blot is accurate. A regular lyme they routinely give you at the drs office is not accurate. Many false negatives. The Bowen is also a good test. You can research them if you are curious. Lyme is in epidemic throughout the world, and TPTB along with insurance companies are making it next to impossible for people to get correctly diagnosed and treated. Highly controversial, but I just wanted you to be aware. I believe MS is a symptom of one or more microbes.

[Cottage Rose]

Is there any experience in alternative healing Multiple sclerosis. it is the initial stage. I pray for help. thx

Hello gandra99. :hug:

Abundant healing energies are available for all. I stand with these other kind Avalon members in visualizing healing for your situation.

It is my understanding the lymph system has no pump for circulation of fluid. In studies several years ago, I learned the exercise of jumping on a mini-trampoline for only 10-15 minutes a day will circulate lymph fluid for beneficial results eventually moving blockages. NASA has stated exercise on a rebounder or mini trampoline is “the most efficient and effective exercise yet devised by man”

Thank you for reminding me to get back to my bouncing program. :o

[Providence]

I just found this tonight, a video series with Dr. Mercola interviewing Dr. Stephanie Seneff, and she is speaking of how sulfur deficiency may very well be one of the major causes for many diseases, including MS. I think she makes a lot of sense, but use your own judgement.

5QUChSlUEH0

Much love and peace to you gandra99!

[HypnoDoc]

Hi!

Hypnotherapy can be very useful in uncovering the subconscious aspect of MS. Also, the role of the pineal gland and its influence on melatonin/seratonin cycle is also very helpful. I would also look into the role of iodine insufficiency. I hope this helps. Good luck!

[WhiteFeather]

Chlorella - By Sun 3 grams a day. Link Below.
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/HerbsVitaminsandMinerals/chlorella
http://greendaddyshop.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sun_chlorella_a_200mg_100day_straight.jpg

MMS By Jim Humble. I hear good stuff on that as well.

Organic Wheat Grass Juice 2 oz. a day. Great Holistic

Good Drinking Water - Fiji, Kangen, etc.. get a water with a high PH as well. If you drink Poland Spring and all the b/s commercialized water..flush it down the toilet, get some real water too. Water is sacred and important.

Blended Organic Raw Vegetables and Raw Fruit Smoothies, very beneficial to healthy cells..

Positive thoughts, relaxation. meditation all part of the mix.

*Stay away from Dr.'s* There interests are to make money in treatment not in healing. Treat Yourself and Heal Yourself. Your mind can move mountains.

Sending My Love and Healing Intentions to you. May this illness in your body be sent back to source.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77j9Eu3TWkQ

[Ellisa]

It must be obvious from the diverse suggestions and proposed solutions posted here that MS is unfortunately very difficult to diagnose and treat, or even alleviate.

Many people diagnosed will have only the one episode, others have a virulent and rapid tragic decline. Most people are somewhere between. And then there is the history of spontaneous remission with this condition which is not uncommon, with or without treatments. It is difficult to know if the improvement is due to the treatment or is a spontaneous improvement. There are two forms of MS as well, just to make things more difficult. One is a steady slow decline with increasing symptoms and occasional acute episodes, and the other is a series of serious separate episodes from which people, at least at first, make an almost complete recovery.

Treatments offered can be helpful and delay the decline. Eating a healthy diet is good, as is exercising as much as possible, and keeping active and part of society. There are many therapies outside of the main-stream which may help. MS is such an individual disease that each person's response is different and impossible to predict.

Stress does not cause MS as such, but episodes will often be triggered by stress, so it is wise to try to have a job or life where the stress is not too great. Therapeutic massage or physiotherapy can help relaxation a lot.

MS is an auto-immune disease of the nerves of the body, and plaques which form in the brain. The disability sustained by the person with the condition will reflect the nerve involved. For instance the optic nerve is often involved in diagnosis (or was before MRI). A patient would have an episode of blindness in one eye, and few other symptoms. It would clear up in a few weeks but as the disease progresses more nerves become involved and the disabilities increase.

It is a hard disease to have- and to watch in another. However there are many new discoveries and ideas all the time. Hopefully some of them will help in the future. Staying positive and finding enjoyment in life is the best defence against MS and having a supportive friend or partner also helps.

[TOTHE]

Healing The Gerson Way by Charlotte Gerson: The proper diet to work on the DNA upgrade. The process increases by 600% to 800% a particular enzyme (a biological catalyst). This blood purifying enzyme produced by the liver is glutathione S-transferase as mentioned in the video in the post below.
You can do this at home if you follow the protocol by change of diet and the "other" procedure.

WhiteFeather's post.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31513-The-Beautiful-Truth&p=321342#post321342

In the book, on pages 76-78 is the detailed discussion on the autoimmune disease, Multiple Sclerosis, the cure, with a typical case history and 100% success rate upon strict protocol.
Ending the discussion is this caution:
"The artificial sweetener , aspartame, sold under the names NutraSweet and Spoonful, is highly toxic to the nervous system and can mimic many symptoms of MS(20). It is claimed to have caused the current epidemic of apparent MS,(21) which has nothing to do with the genuine disease. In many cases the fake condition has been reversed simply by removing aspartame from the patients' diet (22). (See "Aspartame" in Chapter 5, ''Breakdown of the Body's Defense," p. 36.)
References
(20) H. J. Roberts, MD, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic (West Palm Beach: Sunshine Sentinel Press, May 1, 2001).
(21) Ibid.
(22) Ibid.

To all who read this, I send you light, love, tenacity and courage.

[gandra99]

I am totally surprised! Thank you my friends .. LOVE

[Arrowwind]

MS is a basket diagnois for a set of symptoms that they don't know the cause of. Hence what works for someone else may or may not work for you.

My opinion is that most MS conditions are caused by a pathogen, a micoplasma or even Lyme disease, which they do have in Europe.... although certainly if your friend is an aspartame user he must stop immediately. Most cases of MS that I have seen didn't have aspartame involved... but it is a dangerous neurotoxin non the less.... it just goes to show that they have no clue as to a single cause of the disease. There is no single cause.

and yes, MMS has cured some cases of Multiple Sclerosis... but not all. It would be the most least expensive thing to try first. visit this site to learn about it. www.jimhumble.biz (http://www.jimhumble.biz)

There have been cases cured with colloidal silver. Oral colloidal silver seemed to help but IV colloidal silver cured. You can purchase your own colloidal silver maker and use oral until you can find a doctor that does IV colloidal silver.... I will post the collodial silver cure as soon as I locate it.

Some herbal preparations are also helpful. I had a friend who both she and her father had ms. They both took a product form Source Naturals called Padme Basic availabe from www.iherb.com (http://www.iherb.com) .. these are Tibetian herbs and largely they are antimicrobial. She said that if she went too long without taking them she would land in the hospital. This has not been curative for them but keeps them well enough to get on with a fairly normal life. with your first purchase form iherb use the coupon code BAR967 for $5 off your first purchase.

You need to get your vitamin D3 level checked and make sure it is up around 80 to 90 via supplementation. You cannot get enought sun to do this.. believe me... I have been monitoring D3 levels in folks for a while.

You also need to take vitamin B12 shots... at least 5 to 10mg a week. Do a search on the product called Bedoyecti Tri B12. This will help to restore damaged nerves.

You should also work on improving your gut flora with yogurt and high powered probiotics,,, at least 20 billion flora per capsule, daily. The immune system is reliant on a healthy gut.

Try to determine if your case is caused by Lyme disease. Please note that they use the same lab test for lyme as for MS... imagine that!
If you can find someone who does dark field live blood analysis the lyme cysts and spirochete can be visualized and it is the only way to fully confirm Lyme disease accurately. There is a pretty good alternative protocol for dealing with that without using all the dangerous antibiotics.. PM me if you should find that it actually is Lyme disease. Turns out quite a few cases of MS are actually Lyme.

[Arrowwind]

You will wan to read this thread and its links
http://www.natmedtalk.com/other-diseases/20843-ms-lyme-disease.html (http://www.natmedtalk.com/other-diseases/20843-ms-lyme-disease.html)

and here is how to apply colloidal silver
What follows is the story of Nancy Delise, who, over the years, has utilized retail colloidal silver , colloidal silver made with a basic generator, basic colloidal silver enhanced with H2O2
( orally ), and finally IV Silver ( Argentyn 23 by Natural-Immunogenics - Available only to MD's ).

Colloidal Silver: Oral Use

I drank 2 oz of Silver water twice a day - in the morning & at three PM. Day four I begin to drink 8 oz of Silver water two times per day. I seem to have more energy and the end of the day seems to come a little later. I do not drag as much to my car.

Day 12 The night paralyzation seems to be easing. I can get out of bed with more ease Day 14 thru Day 18 My fingers and toes are tingling more and more. My toes are aching. As the days go by my fingertips seem to be aching, also. Day 20 I seem to have surreal feelings in my fingers. It’s like a far away out of body feeling. They still ache.

Day 21, I am getting out of bed much easier and quicker. I climbed a ladder at work, and I am not nearly so tired when I leave work. I can actually walk to my car without holding on to the wall. I did some things on the floor at work, and was able to get up without too much trouble.

Week four, The bottom of my feet are tingling, and I could feel whiskers on Mike’s face (a surreal feeling). I could feel cool bathroom tile on bottom of my feet.

My legs ached all night. It was very painful, I wanted to scream out. My legs hurt a great deal. The next morning I was able to walk further than I had in years. Mike and I walked about four blocks that morning. I feel stronger and stronger every day.

Week five, More and more feeling in both fingers and toes every day. Less surreal and more natural. Both toes and finger get cold.

Week 10, Seem to have small changes every day. Again my toes ached for several days, then I had more feeling in my toes. It’s as though I have a non feeling pad at the bottom of my feet, but feeling all the way around. Like an animal’s paw with the padded bottom. It seems I hurt for a few days, then something feels better.

Week 12, I feel like a caterpillar in a cocoon. I wonder if they have pain during the metamorphosis. The bottom of my feet are no longer numb, the fingers on my right hand tingle only at the very tips. I don’t even think about lifting a heavy container with my right hand. For years, I wouldn’t dare lift, or I would drop whatever I was holding. I poured coffee from a pot without even thinking about it, until I noticed myself. Doing it. There is NO WAY I could be working the hours I have this Christmas, if not for the water. Last year, I had to wear my cooling vest all day every day, and when I went home I could barely walk to my car. Some days I literally dragged my right leg to get to my car. I had to hold on to the building to get around the corner and into my car. When I got home I actually crawled on my hands and knees to get up the steps. This year I never once had to wear my cooling vest. I walk normally to my car at the end of the day, and the steps are not too much of a problem. I still go up one leg only, but it is stronger. The fatigue is minimized, also. I’ve worked many more hours this year than last.

Week 14: I started making my own water about three weeks ago, and I’ve had to send samples to San Antonio for testing. It seems the probe they sent me was not working to full potential, and for about a week I was drinking water with very minimal amounts of silver. After the week I KNEW IT!!! I was regressing. Things were not working so well, again. I was regressing. Thankfully we figured out the problem and within a couple of days I was back on track. Thank God. This set back has convinced me even more. As if that were possible. I have my life back. I will never give up silver water. Week 20: Christmas Week. I had 16 people for dinner Christmas eve. I had 7 people for dinner Christmas day, I worked 11 hours the day after Christmas, and I had 14 people for dinner the next day. That is four days out of four I entertained at my house. I can’t remember when I did something like that. I still have night paralysis, but not nearly as bad as it used to be, and I have a lot of stiffness still when I sit a long time, but nothing near as bad as it used to be. My energy level is very high.

August 2002

My MS Update This is the second anniversary of my long, but wonderful journey with colloidal silver (CS). I am a 59-year-old female who had relapsing remitting MS for 31 years. About 1995 it changed to secondary progressive MS. Thus began my long road of decline. Everyday I got worse. When I discovered CS I could barely walk. I was beginning to use a cane. I could not even go up on the curb without aid. My prognosis was grim. I had some knowledge of the great properties of silver, so the idea of CS intrigued me. I researched CS. What did I have to loose?

I began drinking 16 oz per day. In about three weeks I began to notice a difference. You already have a log of my first year’s progress. I seemed to reach a plateau about this time. I did not improve, BUT I never got worse.

I have since had an MRI and it showed that at this time Aug 2001, I no longer had MS. I have had no new lesions for well over a year. What I was working on at the time is to now repair the damage. Since the damage is to the myelin and not the central nervous system, I was quite confident I could improve.
1 year-6 months: Hydrogen Peroxide Added

I have researched adding hydrogen peroxide to the CS. One drop of H2O2 per 2 oz. of CS. I learned this would cause the tiny silver particles to break up into even more minute particles. After 15 minutes, the peroxide was evaporated out of the CS, so it is not harmful to the body, but the tinier particles of silver got into the blood stream quicker. All this time it was a slow process because by the time the silver got to the myelin where it was needed, it was so diluted, it couldn’t penetrate the lesions and kill the mycoplasma (MS virus). Within a week I began to feel old symptoms again. This is what I call a healing crisis: I would get symptoms of the MS as the virus was dying and the dying pathogen aggravated the nerves, so for 2-4 days I would feel like I was having varying degrees of exacerbation. After a short period, it would end and I was improved again.

If I had known about this earlier, I am convinced my recovery time would have increased a great deal.

1 year-9 months: I am sure there is a way to go even quicker……… I began to research IV drips. There are cases of HIV-AIDS infected patients going into complete remission after three infusions. I worked on this project for about six weeks. I finally found someone with a protocol of infusing CS intravenously. I also found a doctor willing to work with me and give this a try.

1 year-11 months: Colloidal Silver IV Administered

First IV: I had my first IV. By that evening I had my first healing crisis; my legs became extremely heavy (like they were 2 years ago). My fingers tips were still numb, but the numbness was extremely exaggerated. All was better at day four.

Second IV a week later: My legs are again aching a great deal, the numbness in my fingers is very intense. It almost feels like they are not attached to me. All better by day three.

Third, fourth, fifth IV: Each time I experienced a reverse of some symptoms I had either forgotten about over the last 40 years, or didn’t realize over the years were actually MS symptoms. I’ve practically no problems at all. I feel better then I have in 15 years. I will have no more IV’s, but I will NEVER stop drinking CS.

If I had known about the IV’s I probably would have had full recovery even sooner. I am quite sure the old lesions are going away. I am anxious for another MRI to prove this also.

TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY: No more MS, no more symptoms. Most myelin repaired.

PS: My friend, also an MS patient is on the IV drip. She also no longer has MS (By her MRI), but she was sores than me, and not able to get out of her wheel chair. Since IV’s she has given up all her spasm medication and has begun to take STEPS ON HER OWN.

I would be happy to share what I've learned with anyone. Call me, Nancy Delise,Ph: ...... phone number removed per Nancy's husbands' request. I talked with him. Nancy died in an auto accident several years after her MS cure. He had received many many phone calls and he no longer wanted to deal with them. He said that it was fine if Nancy's story was reproduced as she would have wanted that..... Arrowwind

[Agape]

Generally, move yourself to warmer climatic zones if you can and take as much warmth and heat as you can stand , in stages of course . Whatever is comfortable to the patient .
Stop eating all meat and milk products , would be best , if you need proteins then have some milk and nuts and plenty of other healthy food .
Don't take any extra chemicals that you don't have to , don't touch them either .

Change life style, join a community and start exercising :)


At the end ..all will be great ..



:angel:

[percival tyro]

Hi gandra 99. Google Alkaline diet MS

[conk]

Generally, move yourself to warmer climatic zones if you can and take as much warmth and heat as you can stand , in stages of course . Whatever is comfortable to the patient .
Stop eating all meat and milk products , would be best , if you need proteins then have some milk and nuts and plenty of other healthy food .
Don't take any extra chemicals that you don't have to , don't touch them either .

Change life style, join a community and start exercising :)


At the end ..all will be great ..



:angel:Please no milk. Most all dairy is pastuerized. Add the homogenization and BAM, you have a poisonous product. Trust me, processed milk is NOT a healthful food. It is pus-filled, dead, enzyme free, and full of anti-biotics. It has the inferior vitamin D2 added and has large amounts of calcium, with no magnesium to send the calcium into the places it should go. Your joints will calcify! Now.....if you can find raw milk, please do consume it, as it is extremely healing.

[ThePythonicCow]

I just found this tonight, a video series with Dr. Mercola interviewing Dr. Stephanie Seneff, and she is speaking of how sulfur deficiency may very well be one of the major causes for many diseases, including MS. I think she makes a lot of sense, but use your own judgement.

5QUChSlUEH0

Dr. Stephanie Seneff makes awesome sense. Thanks for posting that video!

[NeverMind]

Is there any experience in alternative healing Multiple sclerosis. it is the initial stage. I pray for help. thx

There are LOTS of methods that do help - not necessarily every method for every individual, obviously.

You may want to look into BEE VENOM, for starters.
(My apologies to anyone who has already mentioned this. I haven't read through the thread yet.)

Most importantly, remember this: there is absolutely nothing, no situation, that cannot be remedied if you refuse to be bound by limited beliefs. So... DO NOT FEAR.

This sounds like typical "new age" tosh, I know.... I usually hate it myself. :-)
But believe me, I know from experience that THIS, if nothing else, is true.
There are no limits, to healing or to anything else, except the limits you accept and keep.

Good luck and get well soon. :)

[EileenCookies]

Hi Grandra99, I would start by eliminating diary from your diet (what I got from reading you). See how that goes and PM me after two weeks. If you want a remote look.
eileen (healer).

[EileenCookies]

Just picked up some mercury toxicity as well. Eileen (healer....remote viewer). YOu can do some of the healing yourself with chelation. A good naturopath (PM me if need a recomendation...not free though...I mean them) usually can give you the correct formulations (you first take out all the metals,...then supplement to replace them...). A few homeopathic remedies for vaccination problems also exist....though hard to tell from here if they are easily workable (for you at the moment).

[EileenCookies]

and some more personal information just came in for you...I can PM you about it if you ask.

[NeverMind]

Gandra, I was just wondering, how are you, or the person who needed help, doing?

[Krullenjongen]

I just came across this TED talk.
I have to say i have not watched it yet so i don't know if it contains any useful information but it seems very interesting.

Dr. Terry Wahls learned how to properly fuel her body. Using the lessons she learned at the sub-cellular level, she used diet to cure her MS and get out of her wheelchair.

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[Old Snake]

Gandra,

I have experience with Propolis,it works in many cases

Propolis is the hard brown stuff bees use to seal their living space,
You can make an alcohol solution, 5 grams of P in 30 cc of cognac or something like that.
Take 1 tb spoon 3 times a day.

No side effects!

Hope it works for you too.
Fine remedy for all kinds of inflamation!

Kind regards

Old Snake

[Houman]

Go to https://www.herbdoc.com/index.php?&c=1 order "the incurables program" and do it! it is intense but it will work! (no BS)
Go also to https://herbdocblog.com/books-dvds/ and read the detoxification 1 and 2 books.

Houman

PS: MS usually results from an accumulation of toxins in the brain after the body abilities to detox itself has shut down. The body can heal itself but some toxins can inhibit this ability.

[CdnSirian]

Coconut oil - anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and more. Books about it by Barry Fife. B6, - amazing little co-enzyme coordinates absorption and function of other nutrients. All of the above - I mean the whole thread - start whatever kind of de-tox you choose slowly. No need to crash yourself with detoxing. Chelation like Pectasol is gentle. Edible clays - also start slowly. I used applesauce to get it down then started getting the tablets. You can find these at www.i-amperfectlyhealthy.com.
Find a ND, DC, or kinesiologist who can muscle test you for protocols, dosages etc. does not have to be expensive. NAET - Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Treatment - is something many dc's and acupuncturists and some MD's use - is useful if you are allergic to nutrients you need. This will be an interesting journey to health for you - keep us posted, and we're rooting for you!

[alienHunter]

Hi gandra,

I've been on vacation and while I was enjoying myself I saw your post:
There is a product that is hugely popular among the Asian community here and elsewhere, as well as, Europe where it was first introduced (France, its a prescribed substance). Numerous studies have been done and no deleterious effects have ever been documented. Its technical name is Oligomeric Proanthocyanidin and has similar properties to resveratrol. There are a number of anecdotal stories regarding its efficacy for MS. I'll post a link to a scientific study for you to peruse. This product goes under a brand name of OPC-3 and at least a few years ago in my opinion was one of the best on the market. I'm sure it can be found under different names. I've used it with near miraculous results for other more benign health conditions.

http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1071576021000005249

[conk]

Search results from Mercola.com, a wonderful alternative health site - the best. http://search.mercola.com/search/pages/Results.aspx?k=ms

[conk]

Go to https://www.herbdoc.com/index.php?&c=1 order "the incurables program" and do it! it is intense but it will work! (no BS)
Go also to https://herbdocblog.com/books-dvds/ and read the detoxification 1 and 2 books.

Houman

PS: MS usually results from an accumulation of toxins in the brain after the body abilities to detox itself has shut down. The body can heal itself but some toxins can inhibit this ability.Thank you so much for posting this info. If this doctor is willing to post the full body of his books online, for free, then he likely has our healing as his first agenda. I ordered the Incurable Program just now. Let's hope this isn't the next flop to go on my list.

Cheerfully intending to heal,
Conk :)

[gandra99]

Gandra, I was just wondering, how are you, or the person who needed help, doing?


My friend has MS .. Skillfully avoiding help and information ... Retreats into solitude: /

[Arrowwind]

Gandra, I was just wondering, how are you, or the person who needed help, doing?


My friend has MS .. Skillfully avoiding help and information ... Retreats into solitude: /

People create their reality. They choose their challenges and their impairments for a reason. Remain open to them. When, if ever, they are ready they will ask for help.

[WhiteFeather]

B.V.T. Bee Venom Therapy - Bee Stings and MS. It Couldn't hurt to give The Bee Lady A Call or email. I have enclosed two links for you below as well. Research ( on the internet) Bee Stings and MS, and see if it resonates with you first. Good Luck.


http://www.olg.com/beelady/graphics/Beepic02.jpg

From her website: Hello, I am Pat Wagner, also known as “The Bee Lady”. You may have seen me on TV or in the newspapers around the world discussing how I treat my MS with bee venom. Thanks to Bee Venom Therapy (BVT), I am no longer a breathing corpse due to MS.

Here is a brief overview of my history with MS:

• I was diagnosed at Georgetown University Hospital in the Spring of 1970 with relapsing/remitting multiple sclerosis.

• Medications given to me included ACTH, Prednisone, Dalmane, Halcion, Valium (40 mgs./day), Seconal, Meprobamate, Dantrium, Dexedrine, Ditropan, Lomotil, Erythromycin, Keflex, Percocet, Bicodin, Tylenol #3, Fiorinal, Morphine, Indomethacin, and Timoptic eye drops.

• The course of my MS worsened over the years until the Spring of 1992 when I experienced my worst exacerbation in terms of duration and resistance to treatment.

• Two courses of high-dose Prednisone tapering over 6 weeks (80mgs. per day on down) did not help.

• I was prescribed Prozac for depression because I would cry "at the drop of a hat".

• The medical records read "Wheelchair bound, numb woman with bladder incontinence."

• Bladder surgery was done in March of 1992 but did not prove beneficial.

• Regarding mobility, more records read "as if her feet were nailed to the wheelchair. No movement since October, 1991."

• Then, on March 24, 1992, I received my first intentional sting from a honeybee.

• Besides being numb, my skeletal system felt as though it was made of ice.

• Twenty minutes after I received a sting on my left knee, my entire leg no longer felt bone cold. This was a very positive sign to me that there may be something to this bee sting thing.

• I got four more stings that evening and the next day my entire body was no longer cold except for my feet and hands.

• A noticeable increase in energy was evidenced in two days by my ability to stay awake longer throughout the day.

• The hearing in my right ear was lost due to MS, but regained within two weeks of the stings.

• My husband Ray became so hopeful for me that he bought a beehive, took over stinging me, and I changed his name to Sting Ray!

Although the treatment has not been a cakewalk, its effects have made me a new person. During a follow-up visit with my neurologist, who said there was "No hope", he called out my name and I walked over to him...

He did not recognize me because he was EXPECTING A CRIPPLE IN A WHEELCHAIR!

Pat Wagner, “The Bee Lady”
5431 Lucy Drive
Waldorf, Maryland 20601-3271

PHONE & FAX:
301.843.8350

EMAIL:
beelady@olg.com

http://www.olg.com/beelady/History.htm

http://www.naturalnews.com/029592_multiple_sclerosis_bee_stings.html

[sygh]

Is there any experience in alternative healing Multiple sclerosis. it is the initial stage. I pray for help. thx

gandra,

You need to seek help. There are alternatives but if you use these alternatives, you should still seek a doctor, and have that doctor work with you on this. You will also need the help of others to assist in massages, therapy, and just plain old love, attention, and prayers to recieve and, to give.

Edgar Cayce wrote quite a lot on multiple sclerosis, the causes, and the treatment. If you are really serious about getting alternative help, I suggest you contact A.R.E. in Virginia Beach, Virginia. From there, they might be able to suggest a doctor who in Serbia who is familiar with the Edgar Cayce treatments for MS.

Don't give up. Do relax. We will pray for you as well. Keep in touch with us.

http://www.edgarcayce.org/

[sygh]

Gandra, I was just wondering, how are you, or the person who needed help, doing?


My friend has MS .. Skillfully avoiding help and information ... Retreats into solitude: /

Oh. I still recommend http://www.edgarcayce.org/. And the bee therapy could help too.

[Flash]

I just found this tonight, a video series with Dr. Mercola interviewing Dr. Stephanie Seneff, and she is speaking of how sulfur deficiency may very well be one of the major causes for many diseases, including MS. I think she makes a lot of sense, but use your own judgement.

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Dr. Stephanie Seneff makes awesome sense. Thanks for posting that video!

Paul, such a great video and seven more explaining thouroughly the fonctions of the body. This Stephanie Seneff is the prime example of passionate scientist that love discovering and understanding nature and the b.ody. Her passion is so exemplary of what true science is about. We imagine the scientists as cold analytical beings, when in fact the best ones are full of passion.

her description of the body functions is quite complex and will have to listen to her videos again, to understand heart attacks, cholesterol levels, arthritis and ms.

thanks again, a real eye opener.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, such a great video ... thanks again, a real eye opener.
It was Providence who posted the Dr. Stephanie Seneff video, not I.

I was just thanking him in the post of mine you quoted.

Yes, Dr. Seneff is an outstanding example.

[Franny]

Not highly significant, but coconut oil is helpful for many conditions, including MS.

Coconut oil for MS (http://www.coconut-oil-central.com/coconut-oil-multiple-sclerosis.html)

Coconut oil and Multiple Sclerosis owe a good deal of their beneficial connection to the sun, or more specifically, vitamin D.
Multiple Sclerosis or MS is an autoimmune disease, wherein the body produces antibodies that attack its own tissues, leading to the deterioration of such tissue. An immune system dysfunction, in short.

Autoimmune disorders have been linked with low levels of vitamin D. Fortified foods are the major dietary sources of vitamin D. But sun exposure IS, by far, the healthiest and safest.

So where does coconut oil come in?

Well, coconut oil has always been magnificent in normalizing and boosting your immune system. Taking very good care of your immune system IS, in more ways than one, coconut oil’s specialty.

Consistent or regular low-level skin exposure to UV-B light from the sun normalizes your immune system and enhances immune cell production. However, infrequent and intense exposure suppresses your immune function and causes harm.

Getting too much sun can obviously hurt you so a sunscreen could be vital. Unfortunately, some studies indicate that sunscreen chemicals may promote cancer, just to name one.

Coconut oil is a far better alternative! In fact, it is the original sunscreen. Applied topically, it directly protects your skin against sunburn and all kinds of health problems such as cancer and skin diseases.

Unlike sunscreen, coconut oil DOES NOT block UV-B rays essential for vitamin D synthesis. Coconut oil consumption also strengthens your skin’s connective tissues, making it tougher and less susceptible to sunburn.

Coconut oil normalizes and boosts your immune system. Using coconut oil, externally and internally, makes perfect sense in the battle against autoimmune diseases like Multiple Sclerosis.

[sygh]

I've been listening to this interview (pt 1-7) with Dr. Seneff and I am impressed with her logic. Thanks Paul. Not only can this help those with MS but those with arthritus, autism, alzheimers, dimentia, gut problems, etc...

[Flash]

Here some new information on possible treatments, very interesting, please read it, all those with MS


From thread :MMS causing terrifying nightmares, sleep paralysis, demons in the room?

Posted by fathertedsmate (here)
MMS is a solution that has saved and changed my life,after 10 yrs of PTSD/combat stress,athsma,tinitus(30yrs),athritis,2 stone muscle loss,vertigo,intense fear,uncontrollable reactions,sweats,shingles,constant flem/liquid in nose/throat,constant cough,anxiety,stress,depression,unable to comunicate without sounding like a maniac,just a few of the benefits that come when told you are mentaly inbalanced and the

Etm 567:
Sorry, I just cut that quote off rather arbitrarily. Are you familiar with Garth Nicholson and his findings about mycoplasma infections in vets? MMS may very well have helped such an infection, and that may be why it helped you. The odd thing about Nicholson -- and it is unfortunately a long story -- he found these altered mycoplasmas in the blood of vets of the first Gulf War. And he found that the affected vets could take an antibiotic for about a year and get better. But the VA interfered, and told vets that got prescriptions filled for the doxycycline would lose their veterans' benefits.

There is a much longer story. He had to move his lab twice. He was in Texas, at Baylor, and somehow the medical school was associated with a Texas company, owned by the Bushes and their friends, like Baker, that did genetic work with microorganisms. So he found evidence (I think) that they had created this Mycoplasma fermentans incognito
and perhaps sold it to Saddam Hussein, who then may have used it on the vets. He found this because they did tests on inmates at a local prison, and guards at the prison got sick and gave the illness to their families.

Anyway, "they" -- meaning the Bush family friend machines -- went after him, and he had to leave Baylor (I think it was Baylor; it was the hospital associated with Baylor, maybe?) and move to California. But he had to move again. They tried to kill him and his wife with this illness. They wrote a book about it. It's very badly written, by a couple of scientists and no editor, but pretends the story is a novel, changes the names, and basically tells the story. The book is Project Daylily. I have it, because I was looking into the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, which I have. And that disease shares many symptoms with Gulf War Illness. But they seem not to be caused by the same thing.

It's a fascinating story. Lots of vets died, unfortunately.

This is imho a very important post. In fact, both are, for all the parents having children with Autism and other neurological and/or degenerative diseases. He also have two interviews on his site that are rather instructive, the second one explaining the different virus/microbial infections found in all children with autism.

I would ass the information here to the threads on autism and mms and morgellons if you do not mind.

Thank you

ps.: I went on the Project day Lily site

http://www.projectdaylily.com/

the health site of project day lily

http://www.immed.org/

http://www.projectdaylily.com/


the interview

http://www.policestateplanning.com/project_day_lily.htm

I read everything carefully and listened to the interview, probably life saving information here. Highly recommended. Edit Post Reply Reply With Quote Thanks .

[Muzz]

Posted this on another thread but its relevent here.

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[Unicorn]

I have heard of people who have improved dramatically this condition thanks to cannabis. They boil a few leaves in milk (it seems that milk boils at a lower temperature than water, and that preserves the active ingredients better). Then they drink that milk. But allegedly, smoking the plant is also helpful. Please check links below:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6387-cannabis-truly-helps-multiple-sclerosis-sufferers.html
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=4558
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseaction/show/pageid/1815
http://www.naturalnews.com/028106_Cannabis_Multiple_Sclerosis.html

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I was told by the doctors that I had MS in 2009. I immediately got the book "The MS Recovery Diet". It really alleviated a lot of the fear and gave me a real sense of hope. It is written by two women who reversed their MS symptoms through changing their diet (One woman had MS for more than 20 years and was bed-ridden...now she gardens and chops wood!). The diet is one that is very healthy...not something dangerous in any way...so you can only benefit health-wise from following it. In fact my father decided to try it and felt it greatly improved his health. This year I actually found out that I don't have MS...my nervous system was being greatly affected by a kundalini rising that was linked to my spiritual practices. I am lucky...but for over a year I believed I had MS so I really understand what it feels like to recieve such a diagnosis. For me one of the most important things was allowing the overwhelming fear to rise up and be realeased. It was a real challenge not to try to push the fear away...or to wallow in it. The experience helped me to learn to find that place of peaceful love within...in that space nothing else matters. Another thing that I felt really helped me with the experience was I decided not to see the illness as enemy that needed to be fought, instead I saw it as a teacher, something that came into my life to help me (force me) to become incredibly attuned to my body and it's needs. Please PM me if you would like to discuss this further.

LOVE ALLways, c

I also know someone who cured her MS through diet. However, my naturopathic tells me that it's more like a food allergy, so the same foods might not be bothersome to you as the person who wrote the book. If you know someone proficient in kineseology, which is a form a muscle testing, you could find out what foods are contributing and weakening your system.

Much love and light, Ba-ba-Ra

[nf857]

All these: M.S./M.E./Fibromyalgia/A.I.D.S/Alzheimers/ADHD/Gulf War Syndrome
are all related.

Guess why they are related folks? As they all have a linking mycroplasma that attaches itself to your cells, & acts as a host in your system, replicating itself. Does that sound bleak? Sorry i know your asking for postive feedback here, however i will leave that part til after, giving you the bad news first. It attacks all bodily functions so you can treat one part ofthe disease, however you can't ever find the ultimate cure, just alleivate the symptoms, with medication/treatments. The evidence for this can be gleamed from lots & lots of private medical journals. I can't provide the evidence of this here as its a 40 page document. The person who came close to proving all this was killed in a car crash with much conspirarcy surrounding it. She was a specialist dealing with all these diseases & trying to finding to find the cause for them, as lots of overs have done. There are many of these specialists who have been able to come out with lots of other reasons/evidence of whats going on in the body with the bodily functions themself, where as this specialist never beleived it be down to a pshychological factor or even neurogical as it didnt explain the physiological, so she started to look in the biological, which theorises that some outside factor e.g a toxin or poison, however she found its a parasite, thats been genetically man-made, therefore its been created in a lab & wither breathed in/injected with or its been a bite from a mosquito of some sort.

As we know of chemtrails this is plausible, it could also be in a modified food/drink/ or millions of mosquito could have been released - i think this is the most plausible as it explains why there is batches of people effected in certain areas and not others or it can have been administered by injetion. It is what ever you have been pre-disposed to really though. However this a mass cover-up, we have been treated like genuie pigs, & all this will remain buried & whother tries to prove it will be killed.

If your wondering where im coming from- Ive had M.E. for 10 years, & have a very limited capabilities, ive decided to come out about this as the government in my country are now trying to force all the disabled people into work. giving them their death sentances, sure the goverment like to make it sound like they are doing us a favour, but they are not!

x

[Arrowwind]

If you need lots of support go to the Gerson Institute but her is a doc who cured her MS alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc)

[Vanessa]

It must be obvious from the diverse suggestions and proposed solutions posted here that MS is unfortunately very difficult to diagnose and treat, or even alleviate.

Many people diagnosed will have only the one episode, others have a virulent and rapid tragic decline. Most people are somewhere between. And then there is the history of spontaneous remission with this condition which is not uncommon, with or without treatments. It is difficult to know if the improvement is due to the treatment or is a spontaneous improvement. There are two forms of MS as well, just to make things more difficult. One is a steady slow decline with increasing symptoms and occasional acute episodes, and the other is a series of serious separate episodes from which people, at least at first, make an almost complete recovery.

Treatments offered can be helpful and delay the decline. Eating a healthy diet is good, as is exercising as much as possible, and keeping active and part of society. There are many therapies outside of the main-stream which may help. MS is such an individual disease that each person's response is different and impossible to predict.

Stress does not cause MS as such, but episodes will often be triggered by stress, so it is wise to try to have a job or life where the stress is not too great. Therapeutic massage or physiotherapy can help relaxation a lot.

I was diagnosed with m.s. at 24. Along with going to a good nutritionist for a mega vitamin regimen my husband and I made a conscious effort to remove any physically or emotionally stressful element in our lives. Then went right ahead and had two children. Yup, don't even go there.

I am blessed that I recovered most of what was lost, from complete paralysis on the left side --the only lingering problem was a nerve damage on the skin (feels like a bad burn sometimes). It has only been the last few years that the m.s. has kicked up where I have balance issues and sometimes walk like a drunken sailor.

I found a good diet is best, as clean and natural as possible. Curcumin is fantastic! I tend to take almost twice as much as "suggested" (If a little is good a lot is better theory there) Have heard a lot about MMS and am seriously thinking of adding that to my daily plan as soon as finances allow it.

I am so happy that my neurologist fired me as a patient when I didn't take those dastardly ABC drugs. Of 5 friends who had m.s. I am the only one alive after 5 years on them. I mourn my friends but bless the instinct that my husband and I had about those drugs.

Staying positive and finding enjoyment in life is the best defence against MS and having a supportive friend or partner also helps.


I honestly can't say I wanted some crummy disease but do think I was psycically prepared for it to happen. It allowed me to get out of the rat race and stay closer to natural order of life. No more commuting etc.

Find something that feeds your soul and seek a great nutritionist.
My best advice is to find what works for you and learn to tell others you heard of some study advising against what every well meaning advice you feel isn't good for you.

[Sidney]

All these: M.S./M.E./Fibromyalgia/A.I.D.S/Alzheimers/ADHD/Gulf War Syndrome
are all related.

Guess why they are related folks? As they all have a linking mycroplasma that attaches itself to your cells, & acts as a host in your system, replicating itself. Does that sound bleak? Sorry i know your asking for postive feedback here, however i will leave that part til after, giving you the bad news first. It attacks all bodily functions so you can treat one part ofthe disease, however you can't ever find the ultimate cure, just alleivate the symptoms, with medication/treatments. The evidence for this can be gleamed from lots & lots of private medical journals. I can't provide the evidence of this here as its a 40 page document. The person who came close to proving all this was killed in a car crash with much conspirarcy surrounding it. She was a specialist dealing with all these diseases & trying to finding to find the cause for them, as lots of overs have done. There are many of these specialists who have been able to come out with lots of other reasons/evidence of whats going on in the body with the bodily functions themself, where as this specialist never beleived it be down to a pshychological factor or even neurogical as it didnt explain the physiological, so she started to look in the biological, which theorises that some outside factor e.g a toxin or poison, however she found its a parasite, thats been genetically man-made, therefore its been created in a lab & wither breathed in/injected with or its been a bite from a mosquito of some sort.

As we know of chemtrails this is plausible, it could also be in a modified food/drink/ or millions of mosquito could have been released - i think this is the most plausible as it explains why there is batches of people effected in certain areas and not others or it can have been administered by injetion. It is what ever you have been pre-disposed to really though. However this a mass cover-up, we have been treated like genuie pigs, & all this will remain buried & whother tries to prove it will be killed.

If your wondering where im coming from- Ive had M.E. for 10 years, & have a very limited capabilities, ive decided to come out about this as the government in my country are now trying to force all the disabled people into work. giving them their death sentances, sure the goverment like to make it sound like they are doing us a favour, but they are not!

x

Anyone who has any of these diseases should be tested for LYME, with either the BOWEN, or WESTERN BLOT. The only two tests that are accurate. The elisa, which is the standard "Drs office test", is only reliable if the infection is within 30 days (give or take a few) of the bite.
Many many cases of these illnesses are late stage lyme, undiagnosed.

[Cjay]

Check out:

organic virgin hemp seed oil (MUST be refrigerated)
organic virgin coconut oil
hash oil (from female cannabis flowers).
All three of those oils have been shown to be both neuro-protective and neuro-generative and all three have been used to treat Multiple Sclerosis.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jya6kcOEMUU

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jya6kcOEMUU




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzWSd6-Jx0c

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzWSd6-Jx0c



I would also look at juicing marijuana leaves - no high, just pure nutrition that has been shown to cure many illnesses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa0nLdVJiIg

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa0nLdVJiIg

[CdnSirian]

Indeed I have read that coconut oil is neuroprotective, and regenerative. It has shown to improve conditions involving nerve damage such as MS, Lupus and Parkinsons. It provides the body with energy and does not store as fat.