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dourpil
28th October 2011, 11:27
Hello dear Avalonians :)
I hope I didn't murder the English language in this post. If it's the case, I would be pleased that you correct me!



Since a few months now and with the daily proof that our society is far from being nicely organized, I am trying to figure out what would be a good way to involve eveyone in a society with a simple accessible structure.

Obviously the way our organisation works is very complicated. In order to do anything (job, buy/rent an object, ...), you have to go trhough a long process full of papers that you don't even understand.

My ideal society is close to the structure presented in the 3rd Zeitgeist movie (Moving Forward). but it did not really present how the lambda citizen would organise his life and see how the society itself is organized.

So I thought about sort of a central 'website' (or maybe a program or whatever) from which you could see everything you want easily. From the daily news to the number of workers that is missing in your field; from individual artist's creations to proposing a new industrial process.

The conventional websites/programs that take care of logistics often operate this way: You have a title, subtitles, ... All listed in a linear way, which is not ergonomic.


The website I discovered just yesterday was exactly how I imagined the new program-for-society would work. Please go and check how it basically works. It's "only" used to share websites but it has -in my opinion- a great potential.

www.pearltrees.com



Here's how I see it: You'd have the first main pearls which would be for example "Jobs", "Organisation", "News", "Urgent", "People", .. (they are really just examples, I don't know what patterns would be the most efficient). This system would lead you in an easy way through everything you'd want to see.


Inside these, to facilitate the dialog and instead of a "forum" system that is also very linear and pretty inefficient (how many threads fall into the depths when they're super interesting?), the equivalent of the "posts" would be some pearls. These forum-pearls could be attached to any organisational pearl in order to open a dialog about it. Instead of people responding "yeah, good idea!" or "mehhh. Not at all", you'd have (a little bit like the "thumbs up/down" on youtuve) options like "I think it's a great idea and this pearl should be showed to a lot of people" or even "I think it's a bad idea but this pearl should be showed to a lot of people", etc... And if a comment wants to be done about that subject, a subpearl would be created and people could also easily react on the relation between these pearls; for example "this has nothing to do with the initial subject and should be moved" or "this adds good things to the initial subject and both pearls should be merged".


At least that's how I see things. :)

I only have seen a few project Avalon/Camelot pearls in the website, most of them are in french (the website was created by french people) so if some people are interested, and/or an admin, we could maybe start an "official" project avalon pearl?


If you know about similar websites that operate the same way and can be used for other purposes, please share! Please also share your reactions and suggestions.
Thanks for reading!

VaughnB
17th November 2011, 18:20
Hi,
The wheel has been invented: FORUMS
I belong to about 10 or so and growing. Some are broad based others specific.

HERE'S MY LIST
ALIEN SCIENTIST (http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/forum.php)
SHIRLEY MACLAINE (http://www.shirleymaclaine.com/encounter/showthread.php?t=212948&highlight=edgar+cayce)
ONE VIBRATION (http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/ovspiritualservicesandorproducts/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=OV+One+Vibration)
ONE COMMUNITY (http://www.onecommunityranch.com/forum/)
SPIRIT FORUM (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/index.php)
IN5D (http://in5d.com/)


What part of the world you inhabit? I'm from SAn Diego, California.....have known about both the Projects: Camelot/Avalon for some time just never really contributed because of the time involved.

Here are some of my blogs if you're interested:
http://americanrestructuring.blogspot.com/

ThePythonicCow
17th November 2011, 19:05
Pearltrees is a very nice interface for sharing links. I've started using it as a sort of bookmarking device, across my several computers. It's the best UI I've seen for that.

If it has potential as a discussion forum, I've not noticed that yet :).

(If you're using Firefox and the Flashblock add-on, add pearltrees.com to the whitelist of your Flashblock configuration, or else the main, javascript intensive, pearltrees.com page will not load reliably.)

Eagle
17th November 2011, 19:07
why re-create something that is already here?

ThePythonicCow
17th November 2011, 19:14
why re-create something that is already here?

Is that question in reference to pearltrees or forums?

In either case, actually, there are always many efforts to create such things, as the "state of the art" improves.

dourpil
24th November 2011, 15:08
Ohh well I thought this thread had made its way without reply, but I see I was wrong!



Hi,
The wheel has been invented: FORUMS
I belong to about 10 or so and growing. Some are broad based others specific.

HERE'S MY LIST
ALIEN SCIENTIST (http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/forum.php)
SHIRLEY MACLAINE (http://www.shirleymaclaine.com/encounter/showthread.php?t=212948&highlight=edgar+cayce)
ONE VIBRATION (http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/ovspiritualservicesandorproducts/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=OV+One+Vibration)
ONE COMMUNITY (http://www.onecommunityranch.com/forum/)
SPIRIT FORUM (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/index.php)
IN5D (http://in5d.com/)


What part of the world you inhabit? I'm from SAn Diego, California.....have known about both the Projects: Camelot/Avalon for some time just never really contributed because of the time involved.

Here are some of my blogs if you're interested:
http://americanrestructuring.blogspot.com/


Thank you for your reply and the links, but what I was trying to say is that forums had a very linear way of presenting ideas. Everyone replies one after the other, and if one replies to a post that had been posted long ago, it becomes easily messy! One can also not agree to someone (except with the thanks button), or "thumbs up" a reply to bring other people's attention without adding a post at the end of a possibly long thread already.. Idk if I'm very clear in what I'm trying to say..

dourpil
24th November 2011, 15:21
I've made a small example to illustrate.. Sorry, the quality of it (in content as in form) is pretty bad..

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7918/36594873.jpg

I would imagine something like that.. But with maybe more options in the squares attached to the bubbles (like a "thanks" option, ...)

It would replace a 4 pages long thread that'd look like this:


person1: Why do we exist?
person2: For the experience
3: yeah, for the experience!
4: We don't exist!
5: for the experience, but I'd like to add
3: oh I like what you added!
2: why do you say we don't exist, 4??
6: for the XP!
.
.
.

Is it clearer? :p I know I'm a master at Paint!