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Decibellistics
25th June 2010, 03:42
Consider this....It may be fallacious and or a false statement according to Logicians but I like to have fun so screw it :p

If the beginning of the universe was a singularity, a point that encompassed everything and nothing and possessed all of the matter and energy conceivable, and the big bang occured, then we have separated from what we once already were, which would lead to the fact that we were all God.....Or at least part of God

Blasphemous I know lol. Though the question to consider is this. Scientifically, this whole thing would be considered chance I suppose. I do doubt this. A huge debate from which I shall digress from.
Was the creation of the Universe induced by a thought from an external being, or was it induced from within the singularity? If from within, then we are all God.

An interesting concept regarding I believe George Cassavellas (spelling?) one presentation. Coming into this 3rd dimension is really tough...death, suffering, beauty, happniess, sadness, love, hate so on so forth. Maybe the quest is to get through this tough aspect back to a point where we can return to a form of singularity????

Herein lies the downside to Logic and reason. Logic can never prove the existence of damn near every aspect on this forum except for maybe the Illuminati (at least there's a hefty paper trail to follow for the most par and observational analysist). Logic can never reach into the proof of God existing or anything like the such. Though as a child I remember people saying trust your gut....90% of the time when you do that you'll be right. I received a lesson that in retrospect was a lesson in Intuition. The funny thing is, Intuition is irrational.
Therefore, Logic isn't full-proof and trust your gut LOL.

Also a side-note on the worship of thought forms If millions and millions and millions of people are praying to thought forms that in their own text will KILL YOU if they do not accept what you do as a human being, then I will have to say that we have been feeding a very bad God with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder that gets off on Sadism.......No wonder the world is so flipping fudged up with death and cruelty. Jesus.....................

I apologize for ending on a negative note.....just some food for thought. The beginning of the message is much more uplifting lol.:flame:

Decibellistics
25th June 2010, 04:06
oh, and do not turn this into self worship, that would be stupid in my opinion sorry. Read between the lines. See your true selves as the singularity. That utopian dream we all once used to be a part of. Anything good that you create in your mind, used to be that. I wanna go back there personally. And maybe we're on our way? Who knows lol. Worship of the thought form we have been misled from, maybe would be another way to put it.

Decibellistics
25th June 2010, 18:02
Or even better, don't worship anything.....give respect to the universe and thanks for being alive. Allow your ability to be deliberate and impeccable in your experiences to be the portrayal of your gratitude. Saying ain't doing......Actions speak louder.

RedeZra
25th June 2010, 21:22
Was the creation of the Universe induced by a thought from an external being, or was it induced from within the singularity? If from within, then we are all God.


you will have to excuse my directness today

I have a fever

and my patience for stupidity is not so high


do you not recognize the foolishness

in saying we are all God


no only God is


but because you revel in wrong

you cling to error

and have made yourself an ego


it's just personality

good or bad - right or wrong

Decibellistics
26th June 2010, 04:04
Well that's not very nice.

I would appreciate it if people didn't call me stupid. I'm actually a relatively intellectual human with an interest for posing crazy philosophical questions.

I have induced ego death many times before in this lifetime, and considering you don't know who I really am it's funny because you may not be so offended when I pose ideas of the such.

Considering the point of the post was to point out that we all come from source, I thought it would be uplifting to some. We all used to be one, obviously not anymore.

Maybe we are all clumps of rotting flesh that have evolved into this brain. And that, we are so amazingly good at making **** up and in turn believing the ****, that we actually die with superstitions and fear of the unknown?


Read the posts below the original, kinda clears up any of the stupidity that could be caused by someone ACTUALLY thinking they were God, such as self worship, allowing a God complex to develop, and more or less drowning while attempting to part the Red Sea haha.

I must pose this question, is it not you who have developed an ego for reveling in the right and allowing your own thoughts about the subject to be offended?????? I am here to pose questions about goofy ideas and hopefully in turn inducing peaceful thought among others.

Good day, I hope you heal quickly and feel better

This is the first time I've had a negative comment.....wouldn't have expected it considering all the other topics posed on this forum hahaha.

"Once a man worries, he clings to anything out of desperation; and once he clings he is bound to get exhausted or to exhaust whomever or whatever he is clinging to. A warrior-hunter, on the other hand, knows he will lure game into his traps over and over again, so he doesn't worry."

RedeZra
26th June 2010, 04:28
yes Im sorry Decibellistics

it was too rude and uncalled for


mind you I didn't call you stupid but this notion that

" we are all God "

which I must have read now for the 100th time in this forum


God is One

so there is no room for us to be God


however we are not this corrupt body

we are souls

animated by the spirit of God

when one realizes this one becomes immortal and refined like a god as the angels

still God is One and animates all


I love you


pssst I usually talk to everyone when I type

so don't take it too personally brother

Decibellistics
26th June 2010, 05:32
Right back at ya, I apologize as well......just was thrown of by the notion of stupidity being uttered when the intent was simply to think about topics of the such. Internet communication has it's flaws.

LOL.......God debates

You know what's funny, I've had a fever for a few days as well :) I've been known to get a little silly when I'm sick.

truthseekerdan
26th June 2010, 05:44
Let's see what the bible says in the old: Psalm 82:6 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalm%2082:6&version=NIV) and the new: John 10:34 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2010:34&version=NIV)

Hope this helps. :)

zenith
26th June 2010, 06:41
I AM / GOD
I Am / God
I am / god

Some things change,
some don't. ;)

kriya
26th June 2010, 06:52
:p

If the beginning of the universe was a singularity, a point that encompassed everything and nothing and possessed all of the matter and energy conceivable, and the big bang occured, then we have separated from what we once already were, which would lead to the fact that we were all God.....Or at least part of God

Was the creation of the Universe induced by a thought . If from within, then we are all God.


Without wanting to offend anyone, in particular Redezra and truthseekerdan, I think you have it absolutely correct. I believe, that this world was brought about by thought. It is God's dream and we are living in a dream within a dream. That is why it is not a good idea to take life too seriously because it is not our ultimate reality. However, I would say that we are children of God rather than we are God, because God can exist without us, but we cannot exist without God.

Love,

Kriya

RedeZra
26th June 2010, 14:52
Was the creation of the Universe induced by a thought

this my friend is high thinking and absolutely correct IMO

so it's not a Creation per se but a Projection




I believe, that this world was brought about by thought. It is God's dream and we are living in a dream within a dream. That is why it is not a good idea to take life too seriously because it is not our ultimate reality. However, I would say that we are children of God rather than we are God, because God can exist without us, but we cannot exist without God.



yes as Kriya says

since we are children of God that makes us little gods

knowing this

one should think feel and act accordingly


we are sharing an archetypical physical mental and spiritual experience

in this conjured up and multifaceted field of Consciousness


that's why we become what we think feel and act


does the status of a god not meet our ambitions lol

does anyone actually want to be the God

Decibellistics
28th June 2010, 04:43
ding ding ding! :)

Some of the finest words to explain the subject I've seen.

Devil's advocate set aside, my genuine thoughts exactly.

Thank you.