OWS a front to get us into Martial Law?

[Unified Serenity]

I read recently about a new bill dealing with martial law. I just saw this post on ATS which makes a lot of sense:
"Get them off the streets now before it all turns nasty. Martial Law is required before WWIII is started, this is to prevent people protesting and trying to bring a halt to the war. The Bankers/Elite need us to call for Martial Law, they don't want to say "Well it's WWIII so we need to bring in Marial Law.

OWS is being led by the Secret Services, Agent Provocateur's will soon deliberately make things turn nasty with violence and death. There will be chaos on the Internet when CIA Hacking Group Anonymous take down Facebook on 5th of November. It's also Bank Transfer Day on the 5th of November i.e withdraw your money from the banks at the same time. The Bankers/Elite are creating a false flag crash of the system, which they will blame on the protestors . They will make it seem like we have called for Martial Law. Once Martial Law is in place, the stage is set for World War III to commence

Sorry OWS, get off the streets now before it's too late, it's a trap and you're in the middle of it!

Those who watch the Music channels will have noticed the incredible number of recent music videos featuring chaos and anarchy on the streets. We all know that MTV and Co are used as a way to target and condition teens and young adults, why are they putting these ideas of violence and chaos into their heads? Do not trust the Pied Piper."

Now, if there is a planned false flag event for 11.11.11 and in combination with 11.5.11 it might be enough to push the world into a very chaotic place. Should the images on the 10 and 50 dollar bills come true, I can see a very well orchestrated set of events. Combine economic disasters with chaos in the streets and false flag terrorist attacks and you get a very big recipe for worldwide trouble.

[CdnSirian]

That's pretty scary! Will all the spiritual activities going on now and until 11-11-11 balance this in some way? Will our vibrations of envisioning a different time line balance this in some way? I hope so--
In the past 2 days, I have heard on the MSM 2 interviews with individuals at one of the OC areas. They stated clearly and precisely what is needed--a true US currency, get rid of the Federal Reserve, and just put this country back, whatever it takes. Seems like a drop in the bucket--yet was clearly heard, by whoever was listening. A small step, no?

[music]

OWS really seems to get your goat

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[Coaxial]

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been operating under a declared "National Emergency" = Our entire judicial system = Martial Law.

[Occam's Razor]

Why does it seem like evil always prevails? Why does it seem like a controlling agenda is always successfully taking the next step of fruition?

Why?

Perhaps we all need to strengthen our individual base even more. When some of the concepts discussed on this site are STILL being scoffed at, that seems to be the reason why I feel this way..

With all due respect, the less intellectual outnumber the intellectual on this planet. I really want to reach those laymen...

oddly enough, I think that is the key for a true sweeping change.

[Referee]

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been operating under a declared "National Emergency" = Our entire judicial system = Martial Law.

I missed something can you explain?

[Coaxial]

The flags displayed in State courts and courts of the United States have gold or yellow fringes. That is your WARNING that you are entering into a foreign enclave, the same as if you are stepping into a foreign embassy and you will be under the jurisdiction of that flag. The flag with the gold or yellow fringe has no constitution, no laws, and no rules of court, and is not recognized by any nation on the earth, and is foreign to you and the United States of America. more information

MILITARY FLAG WITH THE GOLD FRINGE

Martial Law Flag "Pursuant to 4 U.S.C. chapter 1, §§1, 2, & 3; Executive Order 10834, August 21, 1959; 24 F.R.6865; a military flag is a flag that resembles the regular flag of the United States, except that it has a YELLOW FRINGE border on three sides. The President of the United States designates this deviation from the regular flag, by executive order, and in his capacity as Commander-in-Chief of the military. The placing of a fringe on the national flag, the dimensions of the flag and the arrangement of the stars in the union are matters of detail not controlled by statute, but are within the discretion of the President as Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy." 34 Ops. Atty. Gen. 83.

President, Dwight David Eisenhower, by Executive Order No.10834, signed on August 21, 1959 and printed in the Federal Register at 24 F.R. 6865, pursuant to law, stated that: "A military flag is a flag that resembles the regular flag of the United States, except that it has a yellow fringe border on three sides."

THE LAW OF THE FLAG

The Law of the Flag, an International Law, which is recognized by every nation of the planet, is defined as:

"... a rule to the effect that a vessel is a part of the territory of the nation whose flag she flies. The term is used to designate the RIGHTS under which a ship owner, who sends his vessel into a foreign port, gives notice by his flag to all who enter into contracts with the ship master that he intends the Law of that Flag to regulate those contracts, and that they must either submit to its operation or not contract with him or his agent at all." Ref.: Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41

By the doctrine of "four cornering" the flag establishes the law of the country that it represents. For example, the embassies of foreign countries, in Washington D.C., are "four cornered" by walls or fencing, creating an "enclave." Within the boundaries of the "enclave" of the foreign embassy, the flag of that foreign country establishes the jurisdiction and law of that foreign country, which will be enforced by the Law of the Flag and international treaty. If you enter an embassy, you will be subject to the laws of that country, just as if you board a ship flying a foreign flag, you will be subject to the laws of that flag, enforceable by the "master of the ship," (Captain), by the law of the flag.

When you enter a courtroom displaying a gold or yellow fringed flag, you have just entered into a foreign country, and you better have your passport with you, because you may not be coming back to the land of the free for a long time. The judge sitting under a gold or yellow fringe flag becomes the "captain" or "master" of that ship or enclave and he has absolute power to make the rules as he goes. The gold or yellow fringe flag is your warning that you are leaving your Constitutionally secured RIGHTS on the floor outside the door to that courtroom.

This is exactly why so many judges are appointed, and not elected by the people. The Federal judges are appointed by the President, the national military commander in chief. The State judges are appointed by the Governors, the state military commanders. The judges are appointed because the courts are military courts and civilians do not "elect" military officers.

Under martial law, you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

And oh so much more....
The gold-fringed flag only stands inside military courts that sit in summary court martial proceedings against civilians and such courts are governed in part by local rules, but more especially by "The Manual of Courts Martial", U.S., 1994 Ed., at Art. 99, (c)(1)(b), pg. IV-34, PIN 030567-0000, U.S. Government Printing Office, Wash. D.C. The details of the crimes that civilians can commit, that are classed as 'Acts of War,' cover 125 pages in the Manual of Courts Martial.

Under Article IV, section 3, of the Constitution for the united States of America, no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State. So -- Why have the judges of the State and Federal courts been allowed to erect foreign enclaves within our public courthouses under a foreign flag with the yellow fringe upon the soil of your state?

If you are in Spain and you see the National Flag of Spain, you would know that you are under the jurisdiction of Spain; and their laws govern you at this time. You are officially NOTICED when you see their flag. This is an admiralty law that says that all who see this flag understand they are governed by the laws of the country that this flag represents. You SHOULD understand that the gold or yellow fringed flag signifies the same thing. It is a notice to you that you are under the rules and regulations of the military force that is flying that flag.

"It is an elementary rule of pleading, that a plea to the jurisdiction is a tacit (silent) admission that the court has a right to judge the case and is a waiver to all exception to the jurisdiction."(Girty v. Logan, 6 Bush KY, 8)
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[Lord Sidious]

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been operating under a declared "National Emergency" = Our entire judicial system = Martial Law.

I missed something can you explain?

So that they don't have to admit that, they claim this instead.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/09/10/letter-president-continuation-national-emergency-with-respect-certain-te

[Coaxial]

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been operating under a declared "National Emergency" = Our entire judicial system = Martial Law.

I missed something can you explain?

1st: Martial Law is declared by President Lincoln on April 24th, 1863, with General Orders No. 100; under martial law authority, Congress and President Lincoln institute continuous martial law by ordering the states (people) either conscribe troops and or provide money in support of the North or be recognized as enemies of the nation; this martial law Act of Congress is still in effect today. This martial law authority gives the President (with or without Congress) the dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This conscription act remains in effect to this very day and is the foundation of Presidential Executive Orders authority; it was magnified in 1917 with The Trading with the Enemy Act (Public Law 65-91, 65th Congress, Session I, Chapters 105, 106, October 6, 1917). and again in 1933 with the Emergency War Powers Act, which is ratified and enhanced almost every year to this date by Congress. Today these Acts address the people of the United States themselves as their enemy.

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Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been operating under a declared "National Emergency" = Our entire judicial system = Martial Law.

I missed something can you explain?

So that they don't have to admit that, they claim this instead.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/09/10/letter-president-continuation-national-emergency-with-respect-certain-te

Gotta Love It!

[Coaxial]

http://freedom-school.com/study-guide.pdf

Also a good study guide on what has been done to us over the years.

[Maia Gabrial]

All I can say is "Wow" at all the things that are being done to us and we don't even know it. THAT is probably why they want to hide our history from us because it would mean knowing what laws were passed and for what reasons. And that they're still around....
Thanks Coaxial. You can bet I'm going to share this information with everyone I know....
And thanks, Unified Serenity for getting the thoughts on this going....

[Unified Serenity]

It's one thing to be under a technical martial law and another to have the full force of it laid against the people. If they can get a mass uprising going, then they can implement their open martial law strategy and claim it's only to bring lawlessness into order (order out of chaos) and institute their one world government control. I am sharing information that I believe is pertinent and not likely to be shared by those who believe the OWS is a ground swell movement of the people. I prefer to keep my eyes open to all information and evaluate based on the fruit I see coming from all parties involved.

I do not like the liberal agenda that has taken over much of America from big government programs dictating what we do on the local level either through fiat agencies like the Department of Education, Department of Transportation, Food and Drug Administration, Federal Communications Commission, Centers for Disease Control, joining in with Public Unions which get huge government gifts of money which gets funnelled back into the liberal politician's coffers and in turn support via foot soldiers to intimidate and steer things like OWS and any actions by the majority of conservative American's who are tired of paying huge government salaries and benefits all while they have to pay for their own pensions and benefits. We have had a war on poverty through welfare programs for many decades and yet we are worse off than we were in the 1960's, the war on drugs which has only filled our prisons and we are worse off with illegal drugs being a plague on society and destroying our youth, and our latest boogeyman war on terror which both sides have used to increase governmental power and taking our liberties all for a perceived security which is false. I see these same liberal minded people who lampooned the tea party protests. I see a lot of problems with OWS because I do not see a consolidated message of going after the Federal Reserve or Government, but instead blaming everything on capitalism. They have showed their colors and it's not about getting rid of overbearing government, but more about free education, healthcare, and somehow jobs coming from government because they obviously don't understand that businesses create jobs not the government. Government has destroyed jobs via over regulation, subsidizing foreign companies, and allowing unfair trade by shackling American companies and over taxing them.

Once the mobs do turn violent it will become all too evident the OWS supporters are fodder for their plans. The elite are not stupid. They have things very well planned out, and while individuals are smart, it's quite easy to turn a mob into lemmings who can easily be steered through well placed provacateurs in the direction desired by those same elites. Yes, I agree with many of the grievances voiced within OWS, but I also see problems and an agenda to promote socialism and further erode my freedoms.

[Lord Sidious]

It's one thing to be under a technical martial law and another to have the full force of it laid against the people. If they can get a mass uprising going, then they can implement their open martial law strategy and claim it's only to bring lawlessness into order (order out of chaos) and institute their one world government control. I am sharing information that I believe is pertinent and not likely to be shared by those who believe the OWS is a ground swell movement of the people. I prefer to keep my eyes open to all information and evaluate based on the fruit I see coming from all parties involved.

I do not like the liberal agenda that has taken over much of America from big government programs dictating what we do on the local level either through fiat agencies like the Department of Education, Department of Transportation, Food and Drug Administration, Federal Communications Commission, Centers for Disease Control, joining in with Public Unions which get huge government gifts of money which gets funnelled back into the liberal politician's coffers and in turn support via foot soldiers to intimidate and steer things like OWS and any actions by the majority of conservative American's who are tired of paying huge government salaries and benefits all while they have to pay for their own pensions and benefits. We have had a war on poverty through welfare programs for many decades and yet we are worse off than we were in the 1960's, the war on drugs which has only filled our prisons and we are worse off with illegal drugs being a plague on society and destroying our youth, and our latest boogeyman war on terror which both sides have used to increase governmental power and taking our liberties all for a perceived security which is false. I see these same liberal minded people who lampooned the tea party protests. I see a lot of problems with OWS because I do not see a consolidated message of going after the Federal Reserve or Government, but instead blaming everything on capitalism. They have showed their colors and it's not about getting rid of overbearing government, but more about free education, healthcare, and somehow jobs coming from government because they obviously don't understand that businesses create jobs not the government. Government has destroyed jobs via over regulation, subsidizing foreign companies, and allowing unfair trade by shackling American companies and over taxing them.

Once the mobs do turn violent it will become all too evident the OWS supporters are fodder for their plans. The elite are not stupid. They have things very well planned out, and while individuals are smart, it's quite easy to turn a mob into lemmings who can easily be steered through well placed provacateurs in the direction desired by those same elites. Yes, I agree with many of the grievances voiced within OWS, but I also see problems and an agenda to promote socialism and further erode my freedoms.

It isn't about liberals and conservatives, they are both tools of the elites, so that is just a dead end.

[Maia Gabrial]

I completely agree with you, Unified Serenity. This movement started out with good intentions, but now it has all the makings of a soon-to-be Riot. At this point it won't take much to antagonize them into violence. I have to shake my head when I think how easily these people are being herded into the trap....Wonder when that will happen?
The PTW make me sick.

[crested-duck]

Here is something to educate everybody on how we got into this mess. And to LS : seems maybe I did'nt have a brain fart last evening in my reply to another post on this subject.
The Global Financial Crisis - the whirlwind of astounding real estate foreclosures, stock market crashes, business bankruptcies and disappearing credit has now hit every single country around the planet. What once was simply called the "Sub-Prime Crisis" has now suddenly mutated into a monster we fearfully call "global recession". So what is really going on? Who has caused this? Why are things suddenly getting so much worse so quickly? And what does the immediate future over the next few years hold?








"Ground Zero"-"The Sub Prime Crisis"







Whatever any commentator might say about the dramatic and threatening events we now face, it is universally agreed that the point of origin appears to be the "Sub Prime Mortgage loan crisis" and simply the "Sub Prime Crisis".







The words "sub prime" refer to what business and economic commentators in the United States (and later the rest of world) coined to describe those home loans given to American consumers never likely to maintain sustainable debt repayments.







This does not mean that these millions of individuals and families were incapable of repaying loans--just that these people were largely seduced into over-borrowing --taking on more debt than they could possibly manage.







At a time when interest rates in the United States were reaching record lows from 2001/2002, the United States Federal Reserve and the United States Government under George W. Bush permitted a complete winding down of prudent financial and accounting practices so that by 2003, the United States and much of the industrialized world was awash with "easy credit".







Individuals in places as diverse as the United Kingdom, Germany and the United States who previously only had one credit card, suddenly had two or three. Lending companies promoted "no-deposit, low interest" loans, pushing up rapidly the value of homes and ballooning the size of mortgages ordinary people were prepared to take.







By 2007, hundreds of millions of people in the wealthiest countries on Earth were suddenly swimming in a sea of debt -- just as Interest rates started to rise --fueled by a rapid increase in the cost of food and energy. The twin pressures of rising living costs and the cost of repaying debt simply became too much for millions of struggling families --loans were defaulted and homes started to be repossessed in record numbers.







This started to cause yet another problem -- the rapid deflation of home value prices in major markets such as the United States, the UK and Europe. Suddenly, those that could still afford to hang on and struggle with debt were seeing hundreds of thousands of dollars being wiped off the value of their homes within months.







At this stage, this crisis was still called the "Sub prime Crisis" and all eyes were on George W. Bush and the privately owned Federal Reserve to see what they would do. Incredibly, not only did they do nothing, but they actually, almost seemingly deliberately made things much worse.







What then does either the Catholic Church and/or the Jesuits have to do with any of this? At this stage, the events discussed so far all point to the hallmarks of good old "greed" and "incompetence" on behalf of people like President Bush and his financial cronies. So how is the Catholic Church and the Jesuits involved with this? and what proof is there? To answer, we need to ask as simple question - how wealthy is the Roman Catholic Church?








How wealthy is the Roman Catholic Church?







Just how wealthy is the Roman Catholic Church and its various orders and subsidiaries? It may not immediate appear directly relevant to the discussions to date, but in fact the real answer goes to the heart of what has happened, is happening and will happen in the near future.







For instance, we know roughly the wealth of the top 1000+ companies around the world, we also know the wealth of most of the 191 nation state members of the United Nations--so what about the Catholic Church?







If you were to look at any of the lists published in the past 50 years of the top 100 to 500 largest economic entities in the world (entities being any type of body corporate ie company, religion, state etc) then you would not find the Catholic Church listed even once.







To be fair, in recent years the Vatican has published a set of accounts of sorts. These infrequent financial statements have revealed some asset values attached to the specific real estate in Rome as well as direct public cash income and expenses. However these financial statements do not include any of its subsidiary organs and subsidiaries.







For example, the Catholic ArchDiocese of Boston as well as New York both publish annual financial statements. On even a quick look at their figures, just these two divisions of the Catholic Church hold assets and income worth several billion dollars.







In response, the Vatican and Catholic Officials quote two important arguments: the first being that the Catholic Church considers its subsidiaries as "independent" entities when it comes to financial disclosure --a contradiction against both Church law and practice which states all organs and subsidiaries are sworn to obedience to the central power of the Holy See in Rome.







The second argument when all else fails is to state that the Vatican is politically an independent sovereign state and so may choose to accept or reject calls for open global transparency of its financial accounts. To date, this claimed "true Church" has steadfastly refused to cooperate with any kind of global accounting of its wealth.







Regardless of continuing refusal by the Catholic Church to declare its global wealth for its Catholic faithful and all the world to see, the stark anomaly of how a multi-billion dollar entity can manage to stay off every published list of wealthy entities remains a mystery.







The indisputable historic evidence







Prior to the appearance of mainstream "entertainment" based news and media, if you were to ask an educated person 100 years ago what single entity was the largest and wealthiest in the world, they would have told you without question the Roman Catholic Church.







The clear, unmistakable and uncontestable truth concerning the Roman Catholic Church is that for 1,000 years it has been the most dominant organization on the planet, during which time it virtually owned directly or indirectly the whole or the majority of wealth of Europe.








For the four hundred years up until the last century, it was well recognized that the Roman Catholic Church also owned and controlled vast wealth and people of the Americas including large parts of South-East Asia and Africa.







Again, let us be absolutely clear on this. The Catholic Church for the past 1,000 years was the indisputable largest economic entity of humanity history. No other nation, corporation or group of families came anywhere close. For centuries, the Church and the Popes had unfettered access to the plunder of Islamic countries, of the ancient Celts and Saxons, of ancient Greek, of ancient Egypt, of the entire fortunes of gold of the Americas, of the mines and civilizations of Africa.








As the largest economic entity of history for over 1,000 years, the Roman Catholic Church dominated ever single class of assets, not just gold and minerals. Its property holdings were by fare the largest of any economic entity in Europe, let alone conquered lands. Its holdings of art and precious artifacts was and is unheralded.








The Roman Catholic Church was a founder in virtually every historic major enterprise created out of states under its influence. It had holdings in new corporations from trading companies to banks and then major industries were unmatched.








So wealthy was the Roman Catholic Church for over 1,000 years that even if it hired every single person on the planet in 1800 as an employee and paid them in gold coins, it had enough gold reserves to keep everyone gainfully employed for centuries.








This total domination of the Roman Catholic Church as the single largest economic entity on planet Earth for over 1,000 years can’t simply be dismissed. Prior to modern revisions of history, it was acknowledged as absolute fact- the Catholic Church was the biggest economic entity on the planet, no question.








How then did something so dominant suddenly appear to drop in asset value to a corporation of only a few billion dollars, that it would not even rate in the top 1,000 economic entities of the world today? Simply through creative history and creative accounting.








Creative history







Firstly in regards to creative history, from the early 20th Century, the influence of the Catholic Church began to be downplayed.







The reasons given for the" magical disappearance" of the wealth of the Roman Catholic are numerous, but all concerning the common theme-- economic and political incompetence with bad fortune. The loss of England was blown up to represent a major disaster to the finances of the Catholic Church from which it never recovered.







The wars of the 16th to 18th Century were also blamed for depleting the assets of the Catholic Church until finally the invasion of Napoleon Bonaparte at the beginning of the 19th Century was used as a final blow to indicate the once great and financially powerful Catholic Church was officially broke.








This of course is technically true. By the time Napoleon entered Rome, the Jesuits had captured most of the gold of the Pope.







Of course, in this revised history the holdings of South and North America, let alone Africa are largely left out, let alone the influence of the Jesuits and Napoleon including the treaty at the early part of the 19th Century after Napoleon was defeated.








Just to make sure, the loss of the Papal States at the end of the 19th Century is also used as the basis of revisionist history to claim the Vatican was broke.







So in the space of 80 years and successive revisionist accepted histories, the world’s largest and dominant entity has been successfully transformed into a dwindling fortune that was lost, stolen and mismanaged over centuries of incompetence to the small remainder we have today.








Remember, this slant on history is relatively recent. To say to an educated person in 1900 that the Catholic Church is not the dominant and largest economic entity in the world at the time, they’d have simply laughed in your face and told you were deluded.








Everyone knew they were the most powerful and wealthiest organization, bar none one hundred years ago. Now, most people accept they are not even in the top 1,000 economic entities of the world.








Of course, such creative and fraudulent history only works and has credibility if you can successfully hide the once dominant assets of the Catholic Church.








Creative accounting







To hide the massive assets of the Catholic Church, a decentralized system with safeguards and controls were invented. Whereas it would have been unthinkable even 200 years ago to place such wealth in the hands of bishops. However thanks to modern communication, modern finance and accounting, the task was much easier.








The major investments of property, fixed assets were transferred under the control of the dioceses around the world. In turn, all non-visible church property was hidden via complex shelf companies and trusts.







Major classes of assets such as shares, gold bullion, diamonds and other precious resources were transferred for direct control under the banks owned and controlled by the Vatican.








Using the cloaks of secrecy in such states as Switzerland and even the Vatican itself, the true ownership and identity of these massive treasures could be hidden.







The Vatican depends upon these laws of secrecy to maintain the lie of its true wealth. Without the secret banking laws and lack of uniform, proper and transparent disclosure laws around the world, the great fraud that the Catholic Church is no longer No 1. could not be maintained.







Thus in the end, the single largest economic entity the world has ever seen disappeared from the radar of people’s minds and returned as a poor and impoverished church in desperate need of funds.







What is the true picture of wealth of the church?







The single largest asset class owned by the Vatican is also the easiest to see, as it cannot be hidden.







The Vatican is the largest holder of land titles for any organization or government in the world with visible title to around US $316 Billion of property (churches, schools, hospitals etc) and around US $2,623 Billion of investment property hidden in extremely complex networks of hundreds of thousands of trusts and front companies.







The current market property value of Vatican City, in the heart of Rome alone is worth between US $1 Billion and $3 Billion. This excludes the value of the priceless artworks and valuables stored within its walls.







The most valuable property holdings of the Catholic Church by nation is the United States with around $50 Billion in visible property holdings and around $507 Billion in hidden property holdings through a massively complex network of front companies and trusts.







The next most valuable property holdings are Germany (US $297 Billion of which only $29 Billion is visible property), France (US $282 Billion of which only $28 Billion is visible), Italy (US $230 Billion of which around $23 Billion is visible), Brazil (US $194 Billion of which around $26 Billion is visible) and Spain (US $158 Billion of which around $15 Billion is visible).







What are the major property portfolio holdings by key nations? How then did the Catholic Church accumulate such a historic and massive property portfolio? How is the Catholic Church still able to hide such massive property investments while still successfully claiming to be “poor”? How reliable are these numbers to the truth?







The Major property holdings estimated to be owned by the Catholic Church are listed in the following table. They are researched from years of private research. If you are unsure, you can test the validity of these numbers yourself by researching published reports by various Catholic subsidiaries and do a property valuation on stated land holdings then extend this globally. The property investments are divided into visible property holdings and hidden property holdings.











Nation

Catholics

Visible

Hidden





(m)

(US millions)

(US millions)



United States

83.2

$ 50,179

$ 507,363



Germany

27.9

$ 29,783

$ 268,046



France

54.7

$ 28,245

$ 254,209



Italy

49.2

$ 23,096

$ 207,866



Brazil

150.3

$ 26,260

$ 168,260



Spain

37.1

$ 15,827

$ 142,440



Mexico

93.7

$ 21,147

$ 135,499



Belgium

7.8

$ 9,558

$ 96,643



Canada

12.8

$ 8,393

$ 84,864



Austria

6.0

$ 7,514

$ 75,979



Argentina

35.9

$ 9,550

$ 70,031



Poland

34.5

$ 8,906

$ 65,308



Colombia

38.9

$ 9,319

$ 59,710



Philippines

73.3

$ 8,999

$ 50,993



Ireland

3.5

$ 4,241

$ 42,879



Chile

14.8

$ 5,203

$ 38,153



Peru

25.4

$ 5,800

$ 32,866



Hungary

6.7

$ 4,033

$ 29,577



Netherlands

5.6

$ 3,343

$ 30,091



Portugal

9.9

$ 3,984

$ 29,220



Venezuela

24.6

$ 4,105

$ 23,263



Switzerland

3.4

$ 2,355

$ 23,808



United Kingdom

9.0

$ 2,395

$ 21,556



Australia

5.2

$ 1,871

$ 18,923








Visible property holdings are those property holdings clearly visible as being owned by the Catholic Church, while hidden property holdings represents between 85% and 90% of the total property holdings of the church.







As outlined, there are principally two types of property holdings of the Catholic Church determined largely by the degree to which their ownership and value can be hidden.







Visible property holdings- schools, churches, hospitals etc Hidden property holdings- golf courses, office high rise, industrial parks, residential apartments etc.







While the total global value of visible property holdings of the Catholic Church are around US $316 Billion, the Vatican has developed an ingenious strategy over the past forty years to change the public mind set on the extent of its wealth.







History of property ownership of the Catholic Church







The Catholic Church has deliberately degraded its most emotional and valuable front lines assets for the most disadvantaged to support its false claim of having no money. In fact, the Catholic Church has gone to the outrageous step of actually closing front line services for homeless and disadvantaged people often in response to attacks and claims of being a wealthy organization.







This innovative and unique behaviour of sacrificing assets to protect the impression of being poor is best described as the “service hostage method”.







The service hostage method invented by the Vatican is a brilliant and very successful strategy of deliberately sacrificing key services for the most disadvantaged and poor of western communities in order to emphasize the false claim of having no money.







In effect, the church uses the asset as a “hostage” against politicians and social leaders calling upon greater accountability or response to the behaviour of the church.







Rather than the church being on the defensive, the wealthiest nation of the Catholic Church, with total property interests of over $557 Billion simply has deliberately run many of its front line services into the ground, causing great pain anguish and in some cases deaths of individuals.







Any claim then that the church has hidden “millions” is simply responded with the line “so you really think a church dedicated to Christian charity would be so heartless or evil to deliberate close important services if it had the money?”







The gold ownership of the Catholic Church







The second largest asset class owned by the Vatican is precious metals, or more specifically Gold.








Apart from property, no other type of Asset has so obsessed the Catholic Church, nor been religiously accumulated by the Vatican than Gold. It is the currency of the Church and has been for over 1,000 years.








So how much Gold does the Catholic Church actually control? Some say very little, citing previous wars and mismanagement. Others claim that the Vatican controls a few “Billion” dollars in gold, with much of it stolen by Catholic Fascist regimes during World War II.








Before this fact is answered, it is important to clearly establish just how much gold has been mined since the beginning of time, for without a very brief but clear history of gold production, it is difficult to understand the true wealth of the Vatican.







General demand and use of Gold







Average total global gold production over the last ten years currently stands around 2,300 to 2,500 metric tonnes per annum. Currently, the three largest gold producers in the world are South Africa (24%), Australia (16%) and Canada (8%).







In terms of average total global demand, global demand had been running around 3,800 to 4,000 metric tonnes per annum of which 81% is used for jewelry, 10% for industrial and 9% as bullion (retail investment).







This higher consumption of gold compared to production has led some analysts to believe that the price of gold is set to continue to rise even further in coming years.







How much Gold has ever been produced (mined)?







It may or may not surprise you to know that there is no unanimous agreement as to exactly how much gold has been produced, nor is still in existence and “owned” across planet Earth.







We know that official (public) gold reserves account for some 30,000 metric tonnes of Gold, the single largest gold deposit facility being the Federal Reserve of New York with around 5,000 in official (public) gold reserves.







Then there are private gold reserves, not declared and included in total estimates. The internationally recognized Barclays Bank estimate around 24,000 to 26,000 metric tonnes are stored in secure private facilities and that around 80% of all the gold ever mined is in bullion (ingot) form. They therefore estimate the total Gold mined to be only 70,000 tonnes.







However the internationally recognized US Geological Survey Department as well as historical mining publications put total global gold production from 1900 to 2006 at 128,075 metric tonnes which is over 58,000 higher from the last century alone than the total claimed by Barclays as being all the gold ever mined!







Contrary to the banking sector which seems to substantially low ball estimates, the mining industry claims the total gold produced is closer to around 140,000 to 150,000 metric tonnes.







However, if we take into account both accurate production measures and historical data, then from 1600 to the present day, over 150,000 tonnes of gold have been produced, which means even the seemingly “high” figure of 150,000 tonnes is still too conservative.







For example, over 3,000 tonnes of Gold was stripped from the American civilizations by the Spanish between 1492 and 1600, estimated to be around 40% of total global production during the period. Between 1600 and 1800, the Jesuit controlled massive slave mines of Colombia and Brazil is estimated to have produced three times the Gold stolen during the American civilization genocides.







The most accurate estimate, taking into account all records, all historical references and the history of mining techniques and mining areas is that around 200,143 metric tonnes is closer to the figure of all gold every mined/produced.











Years

Production

Total





pre 0



25,000

12.50%



0-400

8,597

33,597

4.30%



401-1490

8,129

41,726

4.10%



1491-1600

6,513

48,239

3.30%



1600-1800

12,312

60,551

6.20%



1800-1900

11,517

72,068

5.80%



1900-2006

128,075

200,143

64.00%









100.00%








Why the discrepancy?







It is hard to reconcile why such massive and obvious discrepancies exist to deliberately down play the total size of the total amount of gold from 200,000+ tonnes to less than 70,000 tonnes.







One obvious reason is the maintenance of high gold prices. So long as production is less than demand and so long as the markets maintain a perception of limited reserves, traders and owners of gold can demand phenomenal prices.







A second and more difficult reason to prove is that there exists very large owners of gold, who are in such a strong financial position that they are willing to hold onto massive private gold reserves away from any accounting for strategic, political and financial advantage.







The Russians, for example are believe to hold many tonnes of gold in private reserves that are impossible to verify. However, when we look at official estimates, we are talking about a potential discrepancy in gold estimates of over 50,000 metric tonnes (almost $1,000 Billion) simply missing and unaccounted.







¼ of the world’s total gold doesn't just simply disappear. Private collectors may hide a portion out of circulation, but eventually it returns in some way and can be tracked. Nor do individual dictators have the power or apparatus to perform such feats.







The gold reserves held by the Vatican







The largest single holder of ingot/bullion gold of any organization for the past 1,000 years is and has always been the Roman Cult controlling the Catholic Church.







The Roman Catholic Church controls approximately 60,350 metric tonnes of gold, twice the size of the total official gold reserves around the world or approximately 30.2% of all the gold every mined/produced. At current prices, it puts the asset value of the greatest treasure in human history at over US $1,245 Billion.











Years

Key Reason

Acquisition

Total

% world



1100-1200

Eastern Crusades

9200

9300

27.7%



1200-1350

Western Civilization

12500

21800

57.0%



1351-1490

Templer Treasures

4200

26000

62.3%



1491-1600

New World

3100

29100

60.3%



1600-1800

Slave Mines

4050

33150

54.7%



1800-1900

End of Empires

6500

39650

55.0%



1900-1945

World Wars

16200

55850

53.4%



1946-2006

Organized crime

4500

60350

30.2%








At present, the Roman Catholic Church is back down to total gold domination numbers not seen since the fall of the Holy Roman Empire (around 1100) when it controlled less than 30% of total world gold.








For most of the past 1,000 years, the Catholic Church has been in a dominant position to control the world market of gold with over 50% of all gold and a high point from around the 14th Century to around 17th Century of controlling over 60% of the total gold ever mined.







The treasure has been split between various declared reserves as well as undisclosed reserves. Only 20% of total gold reserves are stored through third parties in official reserves, the largest declared reserve being the Federal Reserve Bank, followed by the reserves in Italy, Switzerland, Germany and France.







The largest private (non disclosed) reserves are unknown, but likely to also be in Western countries and corresponding to the major private reserves of the oldest private banks and financial firms of Europe. They may also be reserves that are directly managed by the Vatican, however this is highly unlikely.







The Vatican and Jesuits- The Global Financial System







The third largest asset class owned by the Vatican is founding and key controlling stock in banks, more specifically the global financial system.







As the largest and dominant holder of capital assets (precious metals, land through Papal Bulls and slaves/serfs) for over 1,600 years the history of the Roman Catholic Church in allowing its capital reserves to be utilized in financing economic growth is in itself the history of banking and global finance.







The reason this obvious relationship is not well understood, nor commonly discussed is twofold: the traditional “love-hate” relationship of the Vatican towards banks and money lenders and secondly the deliberate hiding of the enormous capital wealth of the Catholic Church via the banking system itself over the past two hundred years.







The understanding of this relationship has both historic financial and political ramifications as it explains to a significant extent, the complicity of banks in periods of great political instability and their active work against laws of transparency and equity.







The historic love-hate relationship between the Vatican and banks







The Roman Catholic Church has always been in a position to dominate global trade and finance.







However, the relationship between the Vatican and banking was never historically the same as other asset classes until the age of Jesuit financial control since the 1790’s. In many respects, the policy of the Catholic Church was to deliberately curb the growth of banking.







One historical and erroneous explanation has always been the claim that the Catholic Church considered the charging of interest and usury as a terrible sin. Given the consistent unbroken line of high immorality and downright evil of the Popes and church officials, such this false explanation is unsubstantiated.







When Popes did allow limited banking, the result was almost instant phenomenal economic growth across Europe and the world such as the 13th and 14th Centuries. Indication of the churches loathing of banking is indicated by its systematic dismantling of the Templar system 1100-1300 of exchanging local currency for a demand note which could be “cashed” at any of their castles. It was not until the Jesuit and English slave and drugs traders of the 17th Century that this system returned.







Given the guaranteed potential for the Vatican to substantially increase its overall wealth by allowing its vast capital resources to be utilized in economic growth, it is clear that unlike gold and money, the church did not see economic growth per se a positive political objective.








Secondly, the Jewish connection often blamed for the fictitious concern of usury is more likely to relate to the ancient Sadducee families that helped form Christianity in the first place being ancient bankers as referenced obliquely in the episode of Jesus in the Temple and the money lenders.







It is no surprise then that the families that helped establish the global banking network from the 17th century that eventually took control of the UK banks and world finance were Jewish. In many respects the “usury” lie was just a cover to protect a rather difficult relationship to otherwise explain.







The Jesuits and the global finance system







Because today, the true dominant global wealth of the Roman Catholic Church is so well hidden behind hundreds of thousands of trusts, companies, cross ownerships and secretive laws, any discussion regarding the complete control of the Catholic Church and the global financial system is difficult to fathom with any credibility.







Automatically, the natural reaction is to classify such discussions as conspiracy. In truth, the global financial system that we know today and the world economy would not have occurred, if not for the events that saw firstly the Jesuits disbanded, a war resulting in the assassination of two Popes before finally the Jesuits achieving a lasting treaty from 1814 onwards and the restatement of the most powerful order in church history.







Unlike the greedy Popes, the Jesuits saw the vast wealth of the church as a strategic asset that could be used more precisely to ferment revolution, finance war, change governments and defeat their long time non-Catholic enemies.







Again, unlike the insular Popes, the Jesuits had seen the power and success of using business and finance to build influence through its phenomenally successful relationships in Japan, other parts of Asia, Russia and the Americas.







The Jesuits had the first hand experience of the pioneers of the modern finance system, the English Protestants in the 17th Century as a case history in the power of finance to power the rapid expansion of an Empire.







Banks and in particular Private Banks were also a powerful tool for achieving strategic objectives and also provided an effective means of hiding the wealth of the Vatican, both from the Pope (from whom it was initially stolen) and from other forces.







In banks and the establishment of the global finance network, the Jesuits discovered for the first time a means by which they could literally play two or more sides against one another, without anyone being the wiser, excluding the bankers of course, and at the same time make money from funding the conflict.







In the past, Jesuits had focused primarily on assassination and court influence, both fraught with great personal peril. But in building the global financial network, allied with loyal families, themselves aligned to the ancient Jewish noble families that help found Christianity, the Jesuits could effectively start huge wars and never risk direct implication.










Founded

Name

Nation

Status



1602

Dutch East India Company

Netherlands

Private



1672

Hoares

UK

Bank



1690

Barclays

UK

Private



1692

Coutts

UK

Bank



1694

Bank of England

UK

Central



1695

Bank of Scotland

UK

Bank



1727

Royal Bank of Scotland

UK

Bank



1741

Wegelin

Switzerland

Bank



1755

Bank Leu

Switzerland

Bank



1762

Hope & Co

Netherlands

Private



1784

Bank of New York

USA

Bank



1787

La Roche

Switzerland

Bank



1796

Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch

Switzerland

Bank



1796

Darier Hentsch & Cie

Switzerland

Private



1799

Bank of the Manhattan Company (now JP Morgan Chase Bank)

USA

Private



1800

Rothschild

Germany

Private



1805

Pictet

Switzerland

Bank



1762/1806

Barings Brothers & Co Bank

UK

Private



1812

City Bank of New York (now CitiBank)

USA

Private



1816

Mirabaud

Switzerland

Bank



1817

Bank of Montreal

Canada

Bank



1818

J. Henry Shroeder Bank

Germany

Private



1820

Nordea

Sweden

Bank



1822

DnB NOR

Norway

Bank



1824

Algemene Bank Nederland (now ABN AMRO)

Netherlands

Private



1828

Centreville Bank

USA

Bank



1832

Scotiabank

Canada

Bank



1839

Hambros

France

Bank



1848

Lazard

USA

Bank



1850

HSBC

Hong Kong

Bank



1854

Swiss Bank Corporation (now UBS AG)

Switzerland

Private



1856

Credit Suisse

Switzerland

Private



1860

J. P. Morgan (now JP Morgan Chase Bank)

USA

Private



1863

Crédit Lyonnais (now Credit Agricole)

France

Private



1863/71

Amsterdam-Rotterdam Bank (now ABN AMRO)

Netherlands

Private



1864

Société Générale

France

Private



1870

Handlowy w Warszawie SA

Poland

Bank



1870

Deutsche Bank

Germany

Private



1870

Chase National Bank (now JP Morgan Chase Bank)

USA

Bank



1904

American Bank of Italy (Now Bank of America)

USA

Bank



1912

Union Bank of Switzerland (now UBS AG)

Switzerland

Private



1913

Federal Reserve Bank

USA

Private



1930

Bank for International Settlements (BIS)

Switzerland

Private








The important pattern to note is the general groupings of dates of bank formation and their significance. The first is the formation of banks by English Protestants during the end of the 17th Century. This marks a watershed moment in the economic architecture of the first phase of the British Empire.







The second pattern is the grouping of banks formed in the Netherlands and Switzerland just prior to the suppression of the Jesuits around 1767 by Portugal, Italy, France and Spain.







The third pattern is the grouping of banks formed during the active suppression of the Jesuits and their war with the Vatican and Popes from 1773 to 1818 in the United States, Switzerland, Germany and the United Kingdom.







This group of banks created during the Vatican-Jesuit War is probably the most historically influential, secretive, political of any group of banks in human history. Almost all of them have been implicated in an assortment of allegations from funding of wars, crimes against humanity, treason and money laundering.







The Darier Hentsch & Cie Bank (1796, Switzerland) was the bank that happened to fund Napoleon his European Wars that saw the Papal States and influence of the Vatican crippled.







The Rothschilds (1800, Germany) are famous for suddenly acquiring massive wealth almost overnight and then proceeding to fund numerous European Wars, Asian Wars including World War I.







Barings Bank (1802, UK) is famous for organizing the purchase of Lousiana by the United States from Napoleon during his war with Britain.







City Bank of New York (now CitiBank) (1812) is famous for helping finance the North side of the Civil War, US involvement in World War II, US business in Nazi Germany and US involvement in World War II.







J. Henry Shroeder Bank (1818, Germany) is famous for being the almost exclusive bank for the Nazis.







Of the top 20 banks of the world today, over half originate from the period 1760 to 1860 which saw the Jesuits disperse the massive wealth of the Catholic Church to all parts of the globe, especially great influxes into the United States.







In terms of Private Banks, in 1986, the total asset value held was said to be US$4,300 Billion. In 1997, the figure has more than doubled to $10,000 Billion. In year 2000 alone, the figure hit $13,600 Billion trillion, and is currently still growing at a rate of 30 percent per year. The current estimate of total asset value of deposits held by private banks is around $17,000 Billion.







The Federal Reserve Bank and the Catholic Church







Indirectly, the most valuable banking investment of the Roman Catholic Church is its investment control of the Federal Reserve Banks of the United States.







Through a highly complex arrangement of small holdings across sometimes thousands of banks and cross-ownership holdings hiding foreign ownership, the Catholic Church has effectively controlled the Federal Reserve Bank and therefore the destiny of the United States economy since the turn of the 20th Century.







The Catholic Church has only ordered the complete pulling of the plug of the United States economy once in 1929 to the early 1930's effectively grinding the economy to a halt during the Great Depression along with Europe.







While an extremely high risk strategy that could have caused another Civil War in the United States, the action was necessary to generate suitable conditions of poverty in Europe for the rise of Catholic appointed dictators in Germany, Spain, Italy as well as South America. Without the deliberate action of the Catholic controlled banks, the Great Depression would not had happened and by default World War II would not have taken place.







Since its formation, only one President of the United States --a Catholic himself --has attempted to override the power of the Federal Reserve and the Roman Catholic Church by ordering the US Treasury to print its own money. The money was destroyed the day after he ceased to be President. His name was John F. Kennedy.







Putting it all together







Putting all this together, you can see that there is a lot more to who actually controls the wealth of the world and the actions they dictate from time to time that affect whether we will have a job, a home and food to eat.







At the very least we can blame the US Federal Reserve in part --also realizing that this organization remains essentially a set of private trusts holding the US public and the world to ransom with its decisions. Indeed, it is an institution heavily influenced by its Catholic masters.







Yes, collectively we all borrowed too much money. But in reality all we did was ask for a little of the massive wealth stolen and held by others such as the Vatican and the Jesuits to flow through their banks and into our pockets. We weren't really borrowing, just finding a way to get back some of what is rightfully ours in the first place.







The sub prime crisis should never have happened. The Federal reserve could of easily contained the problem and stopped it in 2008. Instead, against all logic they let it get substantially worse.







The answer to the fundamental question of why? why throw the world back into a depression again after 70 years requires a fresh article--an article that explains the structure of the global banking system controlled by the Vatican and Jesuits and how they started to "turn off the credit taps" by Christmas time 2008.














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[Unified Serenity]

It's one thing to be under a technical martial law and another to have the full force of it laid against the people. If they can get a mass uprising going, then they can implement their open martial law strategy and claim it's only to bring lawlessness into order (order out of chaos) and institute their one world government control. I am sharing information that I believe is pertinent and not likely to be shared by those who believe the OWS is a ground swell movement of the people. I prefer to keep my eyes open to all information and evaluate based on the fruit I see coming from all parties involved.

I do not like the liberal agenda that has taken over much of America from big government programs dictating what we do on the local level either through fiat agencies like the Department of Education, Department of Transportation, Food and Drug Administration, Federal Communications Commission, Centers for Disease Control, joining in with Public Unions which get huge government gifts of money which gets funnelled back into the liberal politician's coffers and in turn support via foot soldiers to intimidate and steer things like OWS and any actions by the majority of conservative American's who are tired of paying huge government salaries and benefits all while they have to pay for their own pensions and benefits. We have had a war on poverty through welfare programs for many decades and yet we are worse off than we were in the 1960's, the war on drugs which has only filled our prisons and we are worse off with illegal drugs being a plague on society and destroying our youth, and our latest boogeyman war on terror which both sides have used to increase governmental power and taking our liberties all for a perceived security which is false. I see these same liberal minded people who lampooned the tea party protests. I see a lot of problems with OWS because I do not see a consolidated message of going after the Federal Reserve or Government, but instead blaming everything on capitalism. They have showed their colors and it's not about getting rid of overbearing government, but more about free education, healthcare, and somehow jobs coming from government because they obviously don't understand that businesses create jobs not the government. Government has destroyed jobs via over regulation, subsidizing foreign companies, and allowing unfair trade by shackling American companies and over taxing them.

Once the mobs do turn violent it will become all too evident the OWS supporters are fodder for their plans. The elite are not stupid. They have things very well planned out, and while individuals are smart, it's quite easy to turn a mob into lemmings who can easily be steered through well placed provacateurs in the direction desired by those same elites. Yes, I agree with many of the grievances voiced within OWS, but I also see problems and an agenda to promote socialism and further erode my freedoms.

It isn't about liberals and conservatives, they are both tools of the elites, so that is just a dead end.

LS, I have heard this "sides" argument over and over, but it does not negate the effect of our governments worldwide using a group for the politicians benefits and also symbiotically the public unions using that connection to gain in strength and power through special exceptions, exemptions, grants etc which furthers an agenda of the elite towards a one world system using the Hegalian dialectic which though we may disdain the left right paradigm is very useful when dealing with a population. Pick an issue and you will find someone against it and someone for it. Make the people at odds with one another over an emotional issue all the while passing legislation and giving kick backs quid pro quo further strengthing a side and increasing government all the while moving us closer and closer to over taxing the system and watching people get more and more dependent upon government only to have the rug yanked out from under them.

As our good friend, Celente, likes to say, "Once the people have lost everything and have nothing left to lose, they lose it!" That is the goal. They have a goal of total control and power. How do they get the people willingly to go along? How do they wipe out those who refuse to play their game? Create a crisis. Have a fall guy to blame. Create a false revolution and once the dust settles and the corpses are not quite rotted and buried bring in a nice solution because the people want peace and want an end to the fighting. You've removed the brightest minds, you've got your lemmings left over who are more than happy to take whatever meager hand outs you (oh so powerful elites) are willing to provide to them, and enforce the new rules. The lemmings are well fed on your pharmaceuticals, poisoned food, flouridated water and ill educated to think for themselves. We are well on our way to seeing this plan come together and for me, it's all been foretold. I don't have to like it and I can speak against it, but it doesn't mean for a minute it is not going to happen.

I for one do not believe we are on the brink of a "new" awakening, but a well orchestrated shift aimed at getting rid of those who would speak out against this movement, and prepared to launch the final assault against mankind to bring about a two class worldwide system of the serfs and the Lords. Of course there will always be the army keeping the people in line and the managers selling the people out for their meager benefit which keeps them just slightly above the serfs licking the boots of their over lords.

[Aryslan]

OWS was a PTPB funded project from the beginning, when Adbusters started in on it. This is part of what they use to break your spirit. Give you hope, then take it away; do that enough times, and voila!

PS - All of the other "revolutions" happening around the world were set up by PTPB, as well, one does not have to dig deep to find evidence of their work.

[GCS1103]

It's one thing to be under a technical martial law and another to have the full force of it laid against the people. If they can get a mass uprising going, then they can implement their open martial law strategy and claim it's only to bring lawlessness into order (order out of chaos) and institute their one world government control. I am sharing information that I believe is pertinent and not likely to be shared by those who believe the OWS is a ground swell movement of the people. I prefer to keep my eyes open to all information and evaluate based on the fruit I see coming from all parties involved.

I do not like the liberal agenda that has taken over much of America from big government programs dictating what we do on the local level either through fiat agencies like the Department of Education, Department of Transportation, Food and Drug Administration, Federal Communications Commission, Centers for Disease Control, joining in with Public Unions which get huge government gifts of money which gets funnelled back into the liberal politician's coffers and in turn support via foot soldiers to intimidate and steer things like OWS and any actions by the majority of conservative American's who are tired of paying huge government salaries and benefits all while they have to pay for their own pensions and benefits. We have had a war on poverty through welfare programs for many decades and yet we are worse off than we were in the 1960's, the war on drugs which has only filled our prisons and we are worse off with illegal drugs being a plague on society and destroying our youth, and our latest boogeyman war on terror which both sides have used to increase governmental power and taking our liberties all for a perceived security which is false. I see these same liberal minded people who lampooned the tea party protests. I see a lot of problems with OWS because I do not see a consolidated message of going after the Federal Reserve or Government, but instead blaming everything on capitalism. They have showed their colors and it's not about getting rid of overbearing government, but more about free education, healthcare, and somehow jobs coming from government because they obviously don't understand that businesses create jobs not the government. Government has destroyed jobs via over regulation, subsidizing foreign companies, and allowing unfair trade by shackling American companies and over taxing them.

Once the mobs do turn violent it will become all too evident the OWS supporters are fodder for their plans. The elite are not stupid. They have things very well planned out, and while individuals are smart, it's quite easy to turn a mob into lemmings who can easily be steered through well placed provacateurs in the direction desired by those same elites. Yes, I agree with many of the grievances voiced within OWS, but I also see problems and an agenda to promote socialism and further erode my freedoms.

It isn't about liberals and conservatives, they are both tools of the elites, so that is just a dead end.

LS, I have heard this "sides" argument over and over, but it does not negate the effect of our governments worldwide using a group for the politicians benefits and also symbiotically the public unions using that connection to gain in strength and power through special exceptions, exemptions, grants etc which furthers an agenda of the elite towards a one world system using the Hegalian dialectic which though we may disdain the left right paradigm is very useful when dealing with a population. Pick an issue and you will find someone against it and someone for it. Make the people at odds with one another over an emotional issue all the while passing legislation and giving kick backs quid pro quo further strengthing a side and increasing government all the while moving us closer and closer to over taxing the system and watching people get more and more dependent upon government only to have the rug yanked out from under them.

As our good friend, Celente, likes to say, "Once the people have lost everything and have nothing left to lose, they lose it!" That is the goal. They have a goal of total control and power. How do they get the people willingly to go along? How do they wipe out those who refuse to play their game? Create a crisis. Have a fall guy to blame. Create a false revolution and once the dust settles and the corpses are not quite rotted and buried bring in a nice solution because the people want peace and want an end to the fighting. You've removed the brightest minds, you've got your lemmings left over who are more than happy to take whatever meager hand outs you (oh so powerful elites) are willing to provide to them, and enforce the new rules. The lemmings are well fed on your pharmaceuticals, poisoned food, flouridated water and ill educated to think for themselves. We are well on our way to seeing this plan come together and for me, it's all been foretold. I don't have to like it and I can speak against it, but it doesn't mean for a minute it is not going to happen.

I for one do not believe we are on the brink of a "new" awakening, but a well orchestrated shift aimed at getting rid of those who would speak out against this movement, and prepared to launch the final assault against mankind to bring about a two class worldwide system of the serfs and the Lords. Of course there will always be the army keeping the people in line and the managers selling the people out for their meager benefit which keeps them just slightly above the serfs licking the boots of their over lords.

I agree with you 100%. You have obviously done a lot of research on the subject and I'm grateful that you have put it out here for all of us to read.
I see what is happening in the real estate arena first hand, because we are busier than ever in our offices. Literally, one side of my office spends all day negotiating with banks to let our clients out of their homes with the minimal amount of damage to them and the other side of our office represents the very wealthy who are buying up properties for a song. (with cash- no mortgages)

There is no doubt in my mind, dealing with this on a daily basis and for many years, that this real estate melt-down was calculated. It is the transfer of assets from the middle class to the wealthy in a "legitimate way". For the average American, their home was their only asset- losing that leaves them with no security for their future. Just the way the elite want it. IMO, you have nailed it completely right in your post.

[Lifebringer]

It's a known strategic misinformation campaign like co-intelpro on the citizens. How many of you have flown since 911?
They have your backround, if you've never committed a crime. You have to be careful and use your esp at times to communicate the facts or hidden that is popping up all over the world.

Worry not, I'm sure this ahs been thought of before since they have had watchers since man/woman's beginning on Earth.
Have faith it is already written, we just have to be in the right place of consciousness when it does. Awake, aware and ready for all that was foretold and protect our families.
Expose, prosecute, and JAIL, JAIL , JAIL.

[Lifebringer]

Pieces of the whole mcs's puzzel.
Piece by horrible piece, to insall their political puppets under the voters noses. Why even Jim Crow has reared its ugly inequal citizen head in OUR century.
Hmmm...time to get to work in the streets and warn teach the 30 year olds the ropes of peaceful civil demonstration without the co-intelpro instigators of violence.

[Camilo]

This will only happen if we place our attention on it. Where your attention is, there you are. Let's place our attention on what we want.

[music]

Even if we assume OWS, and any other movement of mass awareness/protest, is completely orchestrated to bring in martial law, we can never underestimate the power of common humanity. The more the message is disseminated, the closer we get to that threshold where they will just not have the numbers of malleable, compliant, folk to exert complete dominance over the earth. Most people have a thread of common decency, and an indomitable will, even though this appears well hidden most of the time. I also don't believe that the control mechanisms such as fluoridation or the standard of A = 440 Hz are so effective that they can completely dampen the human spirit.

Yes, I am an optimist who believes in humanity, and in the power of Love.

[Maia Gabrial]

If this means anything in the way of comfort, then here it is. Alex Collier was told by the Andromedans that the NWO will happen, but that it will implode in about 8 months afterwards. He said something about these evil ones not trusting each other and that will be the reason for their downfall.
We can only hope this....
Even better than that is that the NWO never happens....

[thunder24]

People have nestled themselves into comfort of the system that is and want to complain about it. Quit useing the system...it is only perpetuated by our continueing to abide by its guidelines.

What are you willing to give up in comfort to truly make a difference in the world. Be that difference, your tired of being taxed, don't pay them. You don't want to pay your speeding ticket, don't pay it.

The people have been walked over and used for thousands of years. We were given creature comforts, so we dissociated from our plight, with visions of granduer being sold to us left and right. Is the
peaceful demonstrations going to make a lasting change in the system? Probably not. If the system crashes on its own, your going to most likely have violence. If the occupy movement continues, your going to most likely have violence. At this stage in the game, for the hear and now, I don't think it matters who throws the first rock, because many are going to be thrown. Do not blind yourselves to the realities that are all around. I don't want violence but personally I don't think a world wide meditation is going to change anything. Many people all ready pray for world peace, stable economy, a job, food....
Action is needed in this hour.

Dissent has many manifestations. How entrenched in the formally known comforts of the system are u?

peace

[TigaHawk]

Why does it seem like evil always prevails? Why does it seem like a controlling agenda is always successfully taking the next step of fruition?

Why?

Perhaps we all need to strengthen our individual base even more. When some of the concepts discussed on this site are STILL being scoffed at, that seems to be the reason why I feel this way..

With all due respect, the less intellectual outnumber the intellectual on this planet. I really want to reach those laymen...

oddly enough, I think that is the key for a true sweeping change.


Someone made a post on ATS, the thought of it was quite scary.

It was:

What if Earth is Hell, and we are the fallen angels.

He goes on to bring up another scary point: Everything in this world that we know revolves around killing and death. For something to live, it must kill (wether it be a caterpillar eating all of a plants leaves so it dies... to a fox killing a mouse so it can feed itself and its family..... theres allways killing)

Combined with the point - tho this one can be argued - that we are stuck here. When we die, we come back again, therefor cannot leave....


Makes you wonder.

[Lord Sidious]

If this means anything in the way of comfort, then here it is. Alex Collier was told by the Andromedans that the NWO will happen, but that it will implode in about 8 months afterwards. He said something about these evil ones not trusting each other and that will be the reason for their downfall.
We can only hope this....
Even better than that is that the NWO never happens....

Whomever said this is correct, I have known this most of my life.
They even have a similar time to what I have known.
Those who cut each others throats to get into power will continue to do it to get the top job for themselves.
Plus, they never truly trust each other.
This is all good for us of course.



Why does it seem like evil always prevails? Why does it seem like a controlling agenda is always successfully taking the next step of fruition?

Why?

Perhaps we all need to strengthen our individual base even more. When some of the concepts discussed on this site are STILL being scoffed at, that seems to be the reason why I feel this way..

With all due respect, the less intellectual outnumber the intellectual on this planet. I really want to reach those laymen...

oddly enough, I think that is the key for a true sweeping change.


Someone made a post on ATS, the thought of it was quite scary.

It was:

What if Earth is Hell, and we are the fallen angels.

He goes on to bring up another scary point: Everything in this world that we know revolves around killing and death. For something to live, it must kill (wether it be a caterpillar eating all of a plants leaves so it dies... to a fox killing a mouse so it can feed itself and its family..... theres allways killing)

Combined with the point - tho this one can be argued - that we are stuck here. When we die, we come back again, therefor cannot leave....


Makes you wonder.

Don't panic nugget, this would match that description and there is some merit to the idea that this is hell, but you can leave, if you expand your consciousness.

[Alfa]

A lot of People are saying that the OWS movement is orchestrated, planned, by the PTB, elite, illuminatti etc.

Sorry if this sounds rude but what hard evidence, documentation does one have that support that this huge movement is orchestrated.

"The original protest began on September 17, 2011, and by October 9, similar demonstrations were either ongoing or had been held in 70 major cities and over 600 communities in the U.S. Internationally, other "Occupy" protests have modeled themselves after Occupy Wall Street, in over 900 cities worldwide."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

900 cities world wide, that's how large the movement has been growing, and honestly i think its totally reasonable that people revolt like this due to our current financial situation.

People want change, and are waking up.
Change can not be accomplished without action, and also the protests are being handled in a pacific manner for the videos i saw, if this was to be a violent one used to speed up the implementation of martial law, there would be wide spread violence by part of the participants, and so far what we can see by the youtube videos that are being posted most of the violence is coming from the police trying to suppress the movement.

I don´t want this to sound offensive nor sarcastic, but on the project avalon forum I at least see a lot of willing for changes, but when people are acting for the change to happen it is soon labelled as a government, secret society maneuver in order to justify something.
Of course we saw that a lot, but that does not mean every movement is orchestrated.

If there are any evidence that this is the action of the government trying to use this movement, to speed up the martial law implementation i would like to see that.

Peace!

[Unified Serenity]

A lot of People are saying that the OWS movement is orchestrated, planned, by the PTB, elite, illuminatti etc.

Sorry if this sounds rude but what hard evidence, documentation does one have that support that this huge movement is orchestrated.

"The original protest began on September 17, 2011, and by October 9, similar demonstrations were either ongoing or had been held in 70 major cities and over 600 communities in the U.S. Internationally, other "Occupy" protests have modeled themselves after Occupy Wall Street, in over 900 cities worldwide."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

900 cities world wide, that's how large the movement has been growing, and honestly i think its totally reasonable that people revolt like this due to our current financial situation.

People want change, and are waking up.
Change can not be accomplished without action, and also the protests are being handled in a pacific manner for the videos i saw, if this was to be a violent one used to speed up the implementation of martial law, there would be wide spread violence by part of the participants, and so far what we can see by the youtube videos that are being posted most of the violence is coming from the police trying to suppress the movement.

I don´t want this to sound offensive nor sarcastic, but on the project avalon forum I at least see a lot of willing for changes, but when people are acting for the change to happen it is soon labelled as a government, secret society maneuver in order to justify something.
Of course we saw that a lot, but that does not mean every movement is orchestrated.

If there are any evidence that this is the action of the government trying to use this movement, to speed up the martial law implementation i would like to see that.

Peace!

How about the fact that the movement is proven to be funded by Soros, Acorn aka NYCC, Unions and they planned this many months ago. It's been all over Alex Jones, ATS, Avolon and other alternative media. I know it's very hard to do a search so give me thirty seconds to do the due diligence which you obviously do not have the desire to do. Oh, and I too an not trying to be rude, just pointing out my actions and facts:

Big Soros Money Linked to “Occupy Wall Street” (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9269-big-soros-money-linked-to-occupy-wall-street)

But Soros’ support for the protesters goes far beyond his tepid public statements. In fact, the original call to “Occupy Wall Street” came from the magazine AdBusters, an “anti-consumerist” publication financed by, among other sources, the Soros-funded Tides Foundation.

Other Soros-backed outfits promoting big government — some with myriad ties to the Obama administration — are also publicly driving the occupation campaign. MoveOn.org, for instance, has received millions of dollars from the billionaire banker. And now, the group is urging its supporters to join the Occupy Wall Street movement as well.

“Over the last two weeks, an amazing wave of protest against Wall Street and the big banks has erupted across the country,” MoveOn said in a recent e-mail to supporters, praising the “brave” demonstrators. “On Wednesday, MoveOn members will join labor and community groups in New York City for a huge march down to the protest site — the biggest yet.”

On top of supplying activists to join the demonstrations, MoveOn is also staging what it calls a “massive ‘Virtual March on Wall Street’ online.” The Internet-based demonstrations are a collaborative effort with another radical and well-connected outfit tied to Soros called Rebuild the Dream.

Led by self-described communist and former Obama administration czar Van Jones, the “Dream” movement is a partnership between a host of Soros-financed “progressive” groups. Big Labor and even Planned Parenthood — the largest abortion provider in America, which receives hundreds of millions of tax dollars each year — are partners, too.

“Together, we'll add hundreds of thousands of voices of solidarity from the American Dream Movement for the protests across the country and show just how widespread outrage at the Wall Street banks really is,” MoveOn boasted in its e-mail.

Other groups working with Rebuild the Dream are also publicly hyping the demonstrations. And more than a few of them are on the Soros payroll as well. Some examples include People For The American Way, Planned Parenthood, Campaign For America's Future, Democracy For America, Leadership Conference for Civil and Human Rights, Common Cause, Public Campaign, and many more."

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Union bosses and others intimately linked to President Obama — whose top campaign contributors included Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, and other big banks — are also playing a key role in the Wall Street protests. The protesters are even recycling administration talking points such as the old “the rich should be forced to pay their 'fair share'" — despite the fact that the “Buffett rule” tax proposal being advanced would almost exclusively soak what remains of the middle class.

But that might be the point. According to reports and analysts, the whole anti-Wall Street movement has been carefully orchestrated by the Obama-linked anti-capitalist union titans and tax-funded “community organizers.” A troubling plot to essentially finish off capitalism was exposed earlier this year, and at the time it was blasted as “economic terrorism.” Even more disturbing: It was uncannily similar to the growing Wall Street demonstrations.

Community organizer Stephen Lerner of the SEIU, a regular White House guest, was caught on video in March discussing the scheme to “bring down the stock market” and "destabilize" the nation — all with the stated goal of "redistributing wealth." And while the whole conspiracy was not revealed because Lerner suspected police were present, the strategies he mentioned included civil disobedience and mass anti-banker protests.

Another conspirator said to be pulling the strings, disgraced ACORN founder and union boss Wade Rathke, was advocating massive “Day of Rage” protests targeting bankers earlier this year. And he is also closely tied to Obama, who actually used to work for Rathke’s “community organizing” outfit.

ACORN, of course, was recently exposed engaging in widespread criminal activity while receiving millions of federal tax dollars. But after the organization filed for bankruptcy, its tentacles are taking over under new names — and still receiving government handouts.

Rathke is also a founding board member of the Soros-funded Tides Foundation, a key source of money for AdBusters magazine (which first called for the Wall Street occupation) and countless other anti-business groups. And he is directly tied to more than a few unions including the SEIU.

Beyond Big Labor and Soros “front groups,” as critics call them, is also a vast collection of socialist and Marxist organizations supporting the demonstrations. The Socialist Party USA, the Marxist-oriented Workers World Party, the International Committee of the Fourth International, and the Communist Party USA-affiliated People’s World are all publicly and openly backing the movement.

While the occupation movement purports to be “leaderless,” in reality, critics say its leaders and financiers are barely concealed. According to analysts, the protests — which are quickly spreading to cities across the United States, Canada, and Europe — actually represent a well-orchestrated operation being used by the very same elite “one percent” supposedly being protested against."

Former SEIU Union Official Exposes Plot to Collapse U.S. Economy (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/6808-former-union-official-exposes-plot-to-collapse-us-economy)

"A former top official with the SEIU was allegedly caught on tape during a March 19 forum describing a union-led plot to “destabilize” the country, bring down capitalism, crash the stock market and destroy the American economy for the purpose of redistributing wealth. Commentators are already referring to the alleged conspiracy as a plan for “economic terrorism” as the uproar continues to grow.

The speech detailing the supposed plot, presented at a leftist gathering at Pace University by former Service Employees International Union banking and finance boss Stephen Lerner, was first obtained by The Blaze news service. Since being posted online, the revelations have caused a firestorm that is spreading fast.

While the whole alleged conspiracy was not revealed because Lerner suspected there could be police present at the forum, the details he provided were enough to understand the basic ideas. Among other strategies, Lerner suggested mass strategic defaults on mortgage and student loans, civil disobedience, strikes, disruption of shareholder meetings and large-scale protests.

“There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now to start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement,” Lerner said. “There is going to be a ten state mobilization to try and shut down [the JP Morgan Chase shareholder] meeting and then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try and create some moments like Madison [Wisconsin] except where we are on offense instead of defense.”

Claiming that organized labor and “community organizations” were in the process of dying, Lerner said a new strategy was needed. “We need to figure out in a much more — through direct action — more concrete way how we are really trying to disrupt and create uncertainty for capital, for how corporations operate,” he told the group.

And one of the primary targets — initially at least — would be JP Morgan Chase bank. “So a bunch of us around the country think: ‘who would be a really good company to hate?’” Lerner explained. “We decided that would be JP Morgan Chase, and so we are going to roll out over the next couple of months what would hopefully be an exciting campaign about JP Morgan Chase that is really about challenging the power of Wall Street.”


The “simple strategy” Lerner and his cohorts are pursuing would “bring down the stock market,” bring down bonuses and “interfere” with the ability to be rich, he said. “And that means we have to politically isolate [the people who allegedly control the country], economically isolate them and disrupt them.”

US comments:

I hope this helps clear up what I am basing my statements on.

[GCS1103]

Unified Serenity-

You've done your homework well. I posted some of the information too, but your post is more detailed. IMO, a facebook/twitter movement that had good intentions when they took it to the streets, became a tool of Soros and those like him. I have spent a lot of time reading and researching Soros and his vast empire. If you look under the top layer of many events on this planet, you will find him and several of his organizations. He's like a worm- just underneath the surface- all you need to do is scrape away a little dirt and you'll find him easily.