Losing Hope, And distaste for Human Life.

[seantimberwolf]

Hi guys, i never post as much as i probably should.
But over the past 2 months i have lost all taste for hope, but most importantly i have lost all love and care for humans.
This may sound strange but i'm finding it hard to look upon people with anything other than distaste and, anger.
I know i should not feel this way and people can throw "love and light" at me all day.
But fact is for some reason almost over night i have become completely detached.
My job is in retail, and i have always been able to be approachable to people of all types, its been what has made me successful.
But i cannot care anymore, i hope people don't think ill off me, but i cannot help it.
I want to know why this has happened, has anyone else gone through this?
Sometimes i find myself (Odin forgive me for saying this) wishing all the degenerate idiots of society would just die, or just not exist so the whole human race can move on, I know that may sound extreme but i cant help feel it, i wish no ill harm on others but its the way i have been feeling recently, i welcome any help on this.
And if anyone feels like being angry towards me, save your breath i honestly don't care, im on hear to seek advice, and get ahead of this before its too far gone.

Thanks guys, i hope i can get over this.
Sean

[Eagle]

I think it is in a way a clensing of all the anger that has been projected to you by people in general. you are feeling what they are but it isnt you. as things begin to progress more and more you will see just about everyone go through this. you will have ups and downs as most of us here has had lately. ride it out get rid of the anger and send it back to them with love.

[Forevernyt]

Well, your first cause of this feeling is WORKING IN RETAIL! :)

I've been there done that and oh what a distaste it put in my mouth for my fellow man. Not all, but most.
You're probably a very intelligent person. I'm guess that you're frustrated, as we all are, with how society is going. Down the crapper. I think you're feelings are natural and not unwarranted.

I also think it is a phase that you must go through, in order for self growth. Work from within yourself. Nothing else really truly matters. You have to live within you. You deal with the consequences of your choices, no one else. You have to look at you in the mirror every day.

Figure out what you want and what makes you happy, then go about trying to do that. You might find your feelings change soon after.

Just my opinion. I wish you well.

[RedeZra]

Sometimes i find myself (Odin forgive me for saying this) wishing all the degenerate idiots of society would just die, or just not exist so the whole human race can move on

i've had enough of evil too and so has God

enough is enough

the end of evil

[Tarka the Duck]

Thank you so much for your honesty, Wolf. I have absolutely no idea what to say at this moment - and I certainly don't want to make a glib response...but I wanted to write that I really appreciate what you have said, and would like the chance to reflect on it.
Much love
Kathie

[Dawn]

Great job! Most people refuse to experience all the 'not nice' energies they have stored in their various bodies. Usually any energy being released is 'felt' as it is on its way out. This is often referred to as 'integrating your shadow'. I have been through lots of it. You cannot 'go to the next level' of depth until you are willing to release (which means you will feel it) the energetic blocks that are in the way.

Here is a little first aid for you. It just helped me move some grief that I have been experiencing. And it is really FAST! Just 8 minutes. I found it in a thread here on Avalon. You will feel better after you listen to it. Oh... you will need headphones or it will not work for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P_hgfiSmLM&feature=player_embedded

[Lettherebelight]

Wow, seantimberwolf. Retail has got to be one of the most difficult positions for an advanced thinking person to be in. It is indeed no wonder you are thinking 'what is the point?', etc. especially when faced with...

a) people whose motives are profit orientated.(colleagues)
b) people who are absorbed in the acquisition of goods that are often unnecessary and manufactured at the expense of others. (customers)

It sounds like you are at one of those 'key moments', before the turning of the tide. Remember, wild one, the dawn is always preceded by the darkest hour.

You will prevail in a way that will surprise even yourself. Whatever decisions you make now, remain true to your core principles...they'll always see you all right.

Best wishes, Vraja :wave:

I really dig that avatar..

[58andfixed]

Please, be easy on yourself.

You are entering a stage of change.

Yes, I am projecting that it has to do with a change in your awareness, however you were following a engineered system. Public schools, MSM, how people behave in 'herds,' etc...

To think different IS different.

It's like a process of being 'born.'

Anger, resentment & detachment are easy emotions to become overwhelmed by.

Here's some hints that may help. I've seen plenty more from very loving, caring, professional and experience people here at PA -- so I'm sure this thread will load up on many more helpful bits of information.

May one of them guide you to a sense of peace, where solution can be found.

"Model of Behavior Change"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transtheoretical_model

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Stages.jpg

Stage !:

"Precontemplators typically underestimate the pros of changing, overestimate the cons, and often are not aware of making such mistakes. These individuals are encouraged to become more mindful of their decision making and more conscious of the multiple benefits of changing an unhealthy behavior."

****

Get your feet onto grass, hug a kitten or a puppy, find a tree, lie down on the ground and look up at the sky --- stay there until the stars come out, even if they seem foggy from the city lights.

- 58

[pyrangello]

Hey Timberwolf, My girlfriends niece who I visited in the hospital this past weekend past away last night as she just turned 40. Her heart just wasn't the kind that was going to keep her going here on earth in the physical realm.

Yes there is a shift in attitudes and peoples ways right now, the earth is doing the same. Working in retail is a gifted talent and sometimes it's a nightmare. The key for you my friend is knowing when to tune in and tune out. You take charge of yourself and not let your Ego control you. Everytime you get frustrated just sit yourself down and tell your Ego to stop it, your in charge. And if you need a breather from everything then indeed do that.

I run a business and I'm almost 50 now. There are about 3-4 times a year I need to just park it for the weekend and just sleep the entire weekend. So I force myself and then get re-charged and then I'm back at it again. These earth shifts , magnetics, and energy waves are effecting me as well too and sometimes I have to have a sit down one on one with myself. As I get myself back to center then I realize it's really not that bad, it just seemed like it was for a moment. Kind of like the time I was mountain climbing, got to a point where I was scared to come down as all I really needed to do was sit down for a while. It does sound easier than it is, but if you practice enough it will get easier.

Granted there are some that are so dense in the term that they are just consuming air here on earth, but allowing them to change your thought process turns you into them and I refuse for that to happen to me, I am just a little more guarded as to who I let into my circle now as I am still as compassionate as I use to be just more guarded. This past weekend reminded me of just how short our time is here and how precious our time is here for those that appreciate every kind gesture that we may display. Yes I have gone thru what your experiencing and when I did I kept telling myself "one day it's going to get better, I have no idea when but it will as I am sure of it" and you know what, it did !

[seantimberwolf]

Wow, seantimberwolf. Retail has got to be one of the most difficult positions for an advanced thinking person to be in. It is indeed no wonder you are thinking 'what is the point?', etc. especially when faced with...

a) people whose motives are profit orientated.(colleagues)
b) people who are absorbed in the acquisition of goods that are often unnecessary and manufactured at the expense of others. (customers)

It sounds like you are at one of those 'key moments', before the turning of the tide. Remember, wild one, the dawn is always preceded by the darkest hour.

You will prevail in a way that will surprise even yourself. Whatever decisions you make now, remain true to your core principles...they'll always see you all right.

Best wishes, Vraja :wave:

I really dig that avatar..

Thanks Vraja, Its hard working in retail every f*****g day i have to listen to people who i hate talk about sales, figures, projections, false staff care etc etc, its grinding me down,
I mean really grinding me down, i started working at 15, i have done labor jobs since then, and im self educated to a very high degree.
The problem is even if i wanted to change direction its very very hard in today's society. especially for someone with no qualifications except life lol.
I was thinking of going to Australia to work farms and ranch's i love the outdoors and have a passion for simple hard honest work, maybe through necessity.
Its like i was born in the wrong time, i went to a physic in January who told me i had countless incarnations on earth, and have not had hardly any in modern day.
So i would find it hard to fit in.
People lack honor and pride, its like the way of the warrior is lost, people are like ants around gum,
Instead of fighting for what is right in the soul we allow monsters to walk the earth in the guise of pedophiles and child killers and rapists.
But where told they have "human" rights, its sickening.
We rush around to buy products that we never have and never will require, instead of learning things we buy the knowledge we seek, what happened to us.
How can i love fellow man when most of the human race hate each other for no other reason but being different, or a technicality on what is ultimately the same religion !

[Fred Steeves]

Sometimes i find myself (Odin forgive me for saying this) wishing all the degenerate idiots of society would just die, or just not exist so the whole human race can move on, I know that may sound extreme but i cant help feel it, i wish no ill harm on others but its the way i have been feeling recently, i welcome any help on this.


Hi Sean, having been where you are, only in a different way and much later in life, my advice to you would be to ride out brother. Don't TRY to do ANYTHING, simply intend for the best possible outcome for all concerned, let it go, and let the four winds blow.

It may well take you to a very dark place for a time, but you'll get through it, and you'll be o.k. In time you'll begin to look back on it as a very positive and necessary experience, and if you're like me, you'll be grateful for it.

Be the warrior with soft eyes, and trust.

Cheers,
Fred

[Ian Gordon]

Well put Fred, and good advice, what I would add is Seantimberwolf is be prepared to play the long game, anything is possible, look for the signs and follow your heart.
I was once in retail and playing the corporate game so I understand the place you are at. With me the universe had to bash me a few times before I listened, retail is hard once you realise that you no longer care and dont want to play the game, so dont take as long as me !!!
what happened with me I was given a life lesson by been in a car accident which according to western medicine meant I wouldnt work again. Been stubbon I investigated alternative medice (although my mindset was it was all BS) to my horror an acupuncturist and a chiropractor put me right (and opened my eyes to the alternative message) from then I worked and studied and used my holiday and full sick leave to escape and become an alternative therapist, it took four years. But without the accident I hate to think of the place I would have been. Seantimberwolf, you have found Avalon, you are awake, you have a massive head start on where I was. believe in yourself, be your own guru and trust yourself.......dont do anything rash or hasty and dont burn bridges until you are 100% you will never need them. Ask for help and it will come.

[Lettherebelight]

Hi seantimberwolf, your work in retail has not been a waste. Your experience has given you many deep insights. The choices you make now will enable others to benefit from your realisations, which are more profound than you realise.
There are many souls who are looking for encouragement to pursue a better way of life. Your example could give people the encouragement they need. Don't worry, you will find the right association to hang with.

Tread carefully, it is true what they say...this world is no place for a gentleman.

[westhill]

I work part-time at a grocery store where everyone, no matter what level (spiritual or emotional), is invited to come and ask me "Where's the mayonnaise?"
It's not where or what you do, but how you do it. It is a "practice" to give your full attention. People respond when they realize you are truly hearing and seeing
them in such an impersonal place as a grocery store. At that moment I have nothing else more important to do, but guide them to isle 18A. I do it fully present.
They can come along grouchy or grateful, that is not my concern. How I act is (some days are harder than others).
westhill

[Xenos]

I'm pretty agree with Dig... I felt like you for long time, until I understood that i'm extra sensitive and probably telepathe... and i even didn't discover by my self lol, people told me that "i'm living in people thought"... you are maybe the same... and yes when you see people, it is very very hard to be in love with them. But, it can be something else too, but can i ask you some question ? I'm sorry for that.

Do you know why you loose hope and care for humans ? Could you put words on it or it "like that", "it happen like that" ?

Do you even know why people bring you distaste or anger ? Why people make you mad ? Can you put words on it ? But "love and light" are not in the mouth, they are in the heart... so... people sometime speak to much from my point of view.


I want to know why this has happened, has anyone else gone through this?
Sometimes i find myself (Odin forgive me for saying this) wishing all the degenerate idiots of society would just die, or just not exist so the whole human race can move on, I know that may sound extreme but i cant help feel it, i wish no ill harm on others but its the way i have been feeling recently, i welcome any help on this.
And if anyone feels like being angry towards me, save your breath i honestly don't care, im on hear to seek advice, and get ahead of this before its too far gone.

If you feel the change during the night, so it probably control mental... to turn your back to other people... if they do that, it is because your are a valuable person... as the french secret service (probably) told me, "they do that because you are spiritually strong"... and so, they don't want to see you give, to be appreciate and to catalyze people in your social life. You don't suffer because your bad, or crazy... but because your are precious. Precious for your race, and you can give a lot.

At the end and for kidding a little (don't take it personally)... Do you know what Odin, the god of War, could tell you ? That the Valhalla is for warrior and if you want Valkyrie in your bed, so you should fight and not surrender my friend. And if you refuse, he can cut your head and throwing your body to Fenris.

Try to do yoga, mediation... runaway groups, or people, especially if you can't stand them anymore... you can go through by yourself and if they do it to you, it is because you can ! They see in you.

Last question, if you draw a graphic representing your state of mind, would it be calm or very active... like artificially active.... not from you ?

I would like to finish with a sympathetic song WfISf55KLmI

[Fred Steeves]

Speaking of grocery stores, I got the surprise of my life several months ago going to my local rinky dink store. Going through the meat section(sorry vegetarians) one day I overheard someone in conversation talking about Eisenhower and the military industrial complex. Needless to say this was a bit stunning, and when I looked to see who it was, it was none other than the guy who stocks the shelves talking to a customer. I waited til they were done and then walked over and struck up a conversation with him. He knew of David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Alex Jones, Project Camelot, etc. It was so cool, and he uses his job interaction with the public to spread a little bit of knowledge here and there when appropriate.

I always hope he's working when the wife gives me a grocery list, and of course when I happen to park behind a car with a bumper sticker saying "Expose Chemtrails", I know exactly who it belongs to. LOL.

Cheers,
Fred

[seantimberwolf]

At the end and for kidding a little (don't take it personally)... Do you know what Odin, the god of War, could tell you ? That the Valhalla is for warrior and if you want Valkyrie in your bed, so you should fight and not surrender my friend. And if you refuse, he can cut your head and throwing your body to Fenris.


This did make me laugh thank you my friend.
Most of what i do i do for the all father, he is my guide i think its through him that allot of my distaste for humanity comes, as i do not relate to modern man.
I do not have many people interactions on a personnel level, i had a girlfriend but needless to say it ended badly due to a number of factors.
I have a small set of friends who know me well, many people who do not know me, normally do not want to get to know me, im not very approachable.
I just woke up one day feeling this way towards people who are ignorant and rude.
I dream of battles, every night i dream of fighting for a noble cause, one i cannot identify.
Since i was a child i have had a compulsion to collect ancient weapons and swords, to learn to use them and fight with them, i could not explain it for the longest time.
Then i saw a physic and was told how i have led many lifes, maybe i should look into past life regression, i dont sleep very often either.
It may just be a fact off life, something i have to learn to live with

[ceetee9]

Hi Sean,

I hear what you're saying and understand and wish I had some words of wisdom for you that I could be sure would ease your anger, pain and suffering.

I was in retail sales a long time ago and disliked it as well; although I think my dislike for it stemmed more from having to play the "sales game" then it did with having to deal with all kinds of people. I know it's hard to find other kinds of work--particularly these days--but it sounds to me like you may be at the point where that is what you need to try and do.

Don't beat yourself up over wishing the "idiots" would all die or go away either. I think most of us have felt that way at one time or another--particularly when we become very frustrated and disillusioned by all the garbage that goes on. I still can't understand why the masses are either ignorant of it all or don't care enough to do anything to try and change it. I find humor helps me a great deal when trying to deal with my frustrations though.

As others have said, try not to despair too much. You are in a funk right now, but it will get better.

[siggy]

I hear you seantimberwolf!
I've been in a similar place for the last few months.
It seems (from reading the threads) that lots of people are feeling similar things / energies, call it what you will.
I don't have any answers, I'm searching as well.
But it helps me at least to know that it's not just me - 'a trouble shared is a trouble halved' and all that.
I hope my small response helps to halve yours :)

Siggy

[Sidney]

Hey Sean- It's not you, its not even retail (IMO),it's everything. We are all (including your retail patrons) having growing pains. Also most likely you are an empath, which means, you are feeling/experiencing everyone elses emotions besides your own, and it is a heavy burden to carry. I don't have any answers for you as I am trying to find my own answers. Take comfort that you are not alone in your experience. Many of us are stuck in survival mode. At least we have a safe place to come and vent, for what it's worth.

[Carmen]

Your thread resonates with me timberwolf, but I have no answers at the moment, for myself or for anyone. Detached is a good description! It's sort of like a null zone to me. I am intolerant of 3d chitchat, and I can't read any more stuff. I'm tired of it. In this physical realm, I've been clearing out stuff and giving it away or recycling or trashing. Whatever it is, if I dont love it, its gone! It's sort of the same with my mind. There are many intelligent, I'm sure interesting, discussions on this forum but I'm just not interested any more. I do think we are in the midst of great change and it is just a matter of hanging in there.

I have days of utter exhaustion where I am so tired I can barely function. I am not fighting that anymore, just going with it, and doing something not particularly physical. In the midst of this 'blah' time, I am cleaning up my act of any sort of addiction. Like many women I have struggled with the 3d attitude of looking good. This involves keeping the weight down through years of 'dieting'. This probably seems trite in the face of worldly problems, but it's been a limiting factor for me. I have now freed myself from this merry-go-round of limitation. I'm doing what natural eaters do and that is they eat when they are hungry and stop when they are satisfied. That's it! Actually I've gone right off topic, but it's what is going on with me at the moment. Maybe I should start a thread about that. Natural eaters would think it crazy and unnecessary, but serial dieters would understand.

[another bob]

[Most of what i do i do for the all father....


Greetings, Friend!

If that is true, and not simply more fantasy being added to fantasy, then maybe try experimenting with seeing all these so-called others that cross your path as unique reflections or temporary sub-personalities of the all father, creating for you the exact experience you require to deepen your appreciation for the sheer awesomeness of That which can appear as these millions and trillions of forms, and yet so transcend any form that the hairs on your head stand up in the mere contemplation of such splendor and glory.

It may take some time to get the hang of it, but perseverance can utterly change your enjoyment of life in this realm, expecially when you realize directly that the people you meet are you, that you are He, and all are here together to enjoy diversity.

Blessings!

[Xenos]

At the end and for kidding a little (don't take it personally)... Do you know what Odin, the god of War, could tell you ? That the Valhalla is for warrior and if you want Valkyrie in your bed, so you should fight and not surrender my friend. And if you refuse, he can cut your head and throwing your body to Fenris.


This did make me laugh thank you my friend.
Most of what i do i do for the all father, he is my guide i think its through him that allot of my distaste for humanity comes, as i do not relate to modern man.
I do not have many people interactions on a personnel level, i had a girlfriend but needless to say it ended badly due to a number of factors.
I have a small set of friends who know me well, many people who do not know me, normally do not want to get to know me, im not very approachable.
I just woke up one day feeling this way towards people who are ignorant and rude.
I dream of battles, every night i dream of fighting for a noble cause, one i cannot identify.
Since i was a child i have had a compulsion to collect ancient weapons and swords, to learn to use them and fight with them, i could not explain it for the longest time.
Then i saw a physic and was told how i have led many lifes, maybe i should look into past life regression, i dont sleep very often either.
It may just be a fact off life, something i have to learn to live with

I'm happy to amuse you :)

We are very close in our life... i'm also very alone and not approachable... at all. It as a meaning... it is not a "fact of life". To consider that as a fact of life mean for me that you can't do anything... you have to live with, and basta ! It is a way to surrender, don't you think ? No, it's not working that way lol ! Everything in life has a meaning, and if you do "most" of what you do for the "all father" so it is not coherent. You should feel happy, and if not... something is wrong somewhere. You see ? Maybe what you don't do for the "all father" lol, and what the hell are you doing ? I'm kidding :)

Honestly, i had a time like yours... it is amazing... personally, it started to change when i realized that i was an abducted person. And with your thought that you are expressing, your humor, your way of seeing things... it is not impossible from my point of view. The way you are speaking too... human stuff, "they", etc. You see what i mean. Do you have old crappy dream in your childhood with being totally unknown from the public ? Even in you teenage and after ? It is just a question.

Did you think to learn martial arts, to learn fencing, or... i don't know, their is so much martial arts.

Do you remember against whom you are fighting in your dream ?

Do you take drugs ? Drugs can interfere with your desire and take your mental strength.

I tell you what i did, because i deserve my life to "the all father" too. I focused myself on the feeling, slow down my mind, did yoga and tried to understand what's going on. It is not easy. But it can works.

[Jay]

Thank you for this thread & resultant encouraging words.
Appreciated.
Seeking truth & wisdom :-) Jay
PS: I live in a country riddled with crime & corruption. Am fighting similar loss of hope & distaste for some individuals and leaders in corporate & govt alike. Daily battle. Loving those who make our lives miserable is the hardest task of all.

[Carmen]

Just heard a great description/quote from Ramtha that sort of sums up my detached 'blah' of now.

"You are bare-assed naked in the wilderness of your own freedom"

Ramtha

[onawah]

Hey Seantimberwolf, I would say past life regressions would probably be very healing for you, if you find the right person to do it with.
Other kinds of healing work that provide assistance with emotional relief would probably be helpful too.
I think that as we progress further into the changes in consciousness that are resulting from the energetic shift that our part of the Universe is undergoing, we have been experiencing lots of releasing of old "stuff".
The deeper we go, the more we get into the core "stuff" we have been repressing the most.
I have always been a bit short-tempered myself, but have kept a pretty firm leash on it for most of my life.
I am finding now that that part of myself which has been repressed for so long is coming to the surface, and I can no longer just repress it, I am having to face it and ACCEPT it.
I HATE that part of me, but I have to acknowledge that it's there, that it needs to be healed, and that repression and hiding from it is not going to work any longer.
It's scary, but I am also feeling a release of fear.
As long as I wasn't acknowledging that it had been eating away at me for a long time, and hoping that it was just going to go away, it continued to fester.
I am working on healing it now by being out in Nature as much as I can, and reminding myself of how fortunate I am to have the friends and other blessings that I do have.
Contact with animals is very helpful too.
I feel for you, and hope this helps.

[Carmody]

At the end and for kidding a little (don't take it personally)... Do you know what Odin, the god of War, could tell you ? That the Valhalla is for warrior and if you want Valkyrie in your bed, so you should fight and not surrender my friend. And if you refuse, he can cut your head and throwing your body to Fenris.


This did make me laugh thank you my friend.
Most of what i do i do for the all father, he is my guide i think its through him that allot of my distaste for humanity comes, as i do not relate to modern man.
I do not have many people interactions on a personnel level, i had a girlfriend but needless to say it ended badly due to a number of factors.
I have a small set of friends who know me well, many people who do not know me, normally do not want to get to know me, im not very approachable.
I just woke up one day feeling this way towards people who are ignorant and rude.
I dream of battles, every night i dream of fighting for a noble cause, one i cannot identify.
Since i was a child i have had a compulsion to collect ancient weapons and swords, to learn to use them and fight with them, i could not explain it for the longest time.
Then i saw a physic and was told how i have led many lifes, maybe i should look into past life regression, i dont sleep very often either.
It may just be a fact off life, something i have to learn to live with

You can also check your horoscope for some powerful alignments that might be happening for you right now. Many times, that is the exact reason of the 'why now?' aspect of these sorts of things.

You will need your birth time/date, not just the location.

[modwiz]

@ Xenos: Odin, war god? Isn't Tiw/Tyr the Aesir god of war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr

Keeping certain storylines straight is part of what I do.

[mosquito]

Hi Sean, I hear you and resonate brother !
I was even thinking of starting a similar thread yesterday, but couldn't find the words nor, more worryingly, find the enthusiasm to do so.
I don't want to offer any glib "answers", just let you know you aren't alone, my feeling is that the reason so many good people feel this way is simply that we don't resonate with the world as it currently is, nor with the people we have to interact with on a daily basis.
Fred's advice sounds best to me, just ride it out, you'll come through and, hopefully there is a better day waiting to dawn. The only other thing I'd like to offer is to wear a smile to work, no matter how difficult it may be.
I remember when my life fell apart in 2003, I ended up working in the IT department of a large bank. It was a totally retrograde step in my life, but looking back, there were some great times, simply because I did my best to have fun at work. Whatever you do, don't take it seriously, it's all a game, a very silly game with some unbelievably silly players. ;)

[Samsara]

Hi seantimberwolf,

Thank you for sharing. It takes much courage to face our shadows. You are a noble man. I heard that you enjoy the outdoors, can you escape somewhere in nature for some time out? Nature has a way to calm our souls.

Maybe it's time for your to move on. You may not see a way out for now, but it will come.

Music has always been an outlet for me, so this one is for you

8dNbymstZjs

Peace to you.

[modwiz]

I feel your frustration young brother. If you have to deal with a$$holes all day then you should at least be paid the same wage as a proctologist.:p

[sygh]

Take all the things that are bothering you, put them into statements in your mind, and then place all of the statements into an imaginary box. Decorate the box, seal it closed with sealing wax, let it fly to the sun, whatever you choose. Step II. Use your mind to put the box in a safe place. A place in your consciousness where you will remember where you put it. Now, mentally lock the box so that you may not examine the contents of the box for anywhere from 3 to 7 days (the time element is your choice). After three days, if you believe you are ready to open the box and look at the contents then -do so. If not, wait for a few more days but no longer than 7 days.

Until then, go on with your life focusing on the things you want to do, as well as the things you have to do.

Upon the 3rd to 7th day, when you have some time to yourself, open the box and examine the contents. Would you then be so kind as to tell me what you found?

Thank you,

Robin

[Heyoka_11]

Its like i was born in the wrong time, i went to a physic in January who told me i had countless incarnations on earth, and have not had hardly any in modern day. So i would find it hard to fit in.

Hey Sean, you're talking to the original square peg in a round hole here mate. I have felt little affinity with this mess since I was a kid. But hey, I have learned to laugh at it all, and so can you! My mid-twenties were an absolute disaster man.....hang in there. Chaos precedes change, and without the ocassional uncomfortable period of chaos, we'd all just keep on doing what we did the day before. In time, you'll look back at this phase as just something you had to go through, so that you could create something far better.


I was thinking of going to Australia to work farms and ranch's i love the outdoors and have a passion for simple hard honest work, maybe through necessity.

You're talking to the right bloke here mate. Australia cannot find enough farm workers (or workers in general), and has started to bring in folk from the Pacific Islands just to handle seasonal needs. Have you contacted Australian immigration? I live rural on a small farm, and am surrounded by farmers who need people. I could even put the word out to see if I can find a sponsor. We also welcome heaps of displaced farmers from South Africa and Zimbabwe in particular, because they need somewhere safe, and we need the farming skills.

Make your mind up to find something better Sean, and it will happen. :)

[meeradas]

[...] i have lost all love and care for humans. This may sound strange but i'm finding it hard to look upon people with anything other than distaste and, anger.

I know i should not feel this way [...]

But fact is for some reason almost over night i have become completely detached.

[...] i hope i can get over this.

Man, i do know this, believe me.
Former retail and hospitality [which turned into hostility] biz here.

It's only temporary. Rest assured of that. You'll certainly get over it, if i have - and this here ain't no warrior!

If you feel this way, there's a reason for it - and who says you shouldn't feel like it? Time to really feel!
If it's too dark or heavy for you [considering your avatar], who shall shoulder the burden instead, hum?
One big part of the real warrior's strength is [having more] stamina [than the others], isn't it? Prove it. To yourself.

I do not think you need any help; i plainly think you're sane. I even think it's perfectly normal that anyone really looking at the "human bs theater" goin' on, will go thru sth similar, at one (or two, or...) point(s) in their lives.

One more thing: Just cannot see any "detachment";
looks like your acutely very much attached to your anger/ the people you'd like to see gone forever... don't deceive yourself here.

If you can't dissolve this energy, use it -
to wade thru all the bs.
I've done it, then you can do it.
:smokin::smokin::smokin:

[markpierre]

And if anyone feels like being angry towards me, save your breath i honestly don't care, im on hear to seek advice, and get ahead of this before its too far gone.

Thanks guys, i hope i can get over this.
Sean

Hey Sean, that all sounds good to me.

Really mate, all we're asked to do is watch our thoughts and pay attention to what they're doing. It's just 'getting real'. You can't embrace reality if you can't be honest, or still feel you're not allowed to. When you pull your slate up out of the mud...it's covered with mud. It doesn't come clean by denying what you see.

We're all the same that way. A bit muddy still. But we won't even notice when it's clean because we'll have forgotten about the mud. It was all a lot of nothing.

The guys who like to preach 'love and light' believe they're teaching something valuable so let em. We all do that in order to learn. It's not much more than 'fake it till you make it', but it's a method and it does work for some people. I think it's a bit slow personally.

'Thinking love', trying to modify thoughts you don't like is just more rejection. If you can do that effectively, you can be doing that for a very long time.

That 'love' is a state of mind that's inclusive, and so it happens to not exclude the dickheads still behaving like dickheads. Unaware is a more palatable term, so lets use that. It really is a tough place to feel caught in current of lemmings. They don't know where they're going, they're just going.

You do know. You know it's all okay, but you also know diving off a cliff isn't what you're up to this time around.

That 'light' is a real thing, but it's an experience. You can't talk about it honestly unless the light is on in your own head. Very very very few people live in that light all the time and have addressed all their hidden issues.

When you're feeling what you're feeling, like it or hate it, but honest about it, you're doing the work.

It's easy to lip service love to things that aren't triggering you. But if you avoid the triggers, you miss opportunities.

Something that always works for me when I feel crappy is the phrase "this too shall pass". It never feels like it when you're in it, but it has to. We're not responsible to make it change, we're responsible for accepting 'what is' right now. Like it or not.

One day you wake up and everything is different. AGAIN!

[Xenos]

@ Xenos: Odin, war god? Isn't Tiw/Tyr the Aesir god of war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr

Keeping certain storylines straight is part of what I do.

You right, thank you Modwiz, but their is argue point here lol :)

Look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin Odin is a principal member of the Æsir (the major group of the Norse pantheon) and is associated with war, battle, victory and death, but also wisdom, magic, poetry, prophecy, and the hunt. Odin has many sons, the most famous of whom is Thor. Source : Wikipedia

I always learned that Odin was the god of war, and pretty cool god, as Lug in France (Lugdunum that became Lyon my current city).

Odin is nicer than Tyr for me... espcially with his two crows, his tank pulled by goats (if i'm right), magy, poetry, good wife... what a dream ! :)

[Tony]

Good morning Seantimberwolf,
Everything we experience is a product of the past.
if no change takes place, the future will be the same.
It is only in the present can we change the future.

Don't over react, and new doors will open.

[toothpick]

Hi Sean, great thread.
Sorry you are down with people right now, somehow i think your working in retail could be one catalyst for your displeasure.
Personally, i,m quite sure if i had to work retail with all the rude zombies out there it would no dougbt eventually make me angry with my fellow man.
You are not alone sean, we all have to suffer fools at one time or another.
My advice, quit that job and move on man, free will brother.

[Curt]

Hi Sean,

Life is always going to suck a little bit. Call it a design flaw. Maybe in earth 2.0 they'll work out the bugs and it'll be slightly better. For now, all you can do is to make it suck a lot less by doing exactly what you feel called to do. Do you want to go and be a carpenter? Then go and be a carpenter. The sooner you go after what you want the less you'll suffer.

[Star1111]

Seantimberwolf
You are not alone, there are a LOT of people out there feeling this way.

Just remember ............. it doesnt matter

You WILL get over this feeling, its growing pains - accept it and then observe it.

At the age of 24 you can still make a career change. I think you may just have hit a bit of a hiatus, it will pass, it really will.

Much LOVE to you :) You are very LOVED.

[seantimberwolf]

Great advice from everyone, nice too know people care, but most importantly that I'm not alone in feeling this,
Thank you guys
Much respect and love

[KosmicKat]

i never post as much as i probably should.
I would rather read one post by someone who has something to say than hundreds by people who just want to connect somehow. Sorry folks, that's just me. And I'm one of the worst offenders.

But over the past 2 months i have lost all taste for hope,
For a long time hope was classed as one of the negative emotions because it leads to expectations without any guarantee of fulfilment. As for your wish concerning the "Morlocks", keep in mind, it's all relative. They may look like a millstone round our collective necks to you where you are, but further down the road, somebody else probably views us similarly!

[efields]

I fully concur with your feelings. I was a Public person. Entrepreneur. Hairdresser, Chauffeur, Healer, and now retired. I have been so Toasted from my dealings with the Toxic Collective, I have retreated from contact with almost all People. I have found they want and need, is to Suck my Happiness out for themselves. My wife and I are in a Blissful Cocoon. We moved to Vilcabamba, Ecuador to escape the Regime of the U.S. and the Toxicity of the Collective. We expected to be surrounded with Like Minded Folks who had our Awareness. We have found the very same Broken people (even more so) than when we lived in the Hampton's in NY. We have retreated from the Stage or Collective nightmare. We couldn't be happier to have lost all the Pain that was visiting is on a continuing basis.

We feel its the best course of action as this world in in a Broken state. We see No major shift to light from the World. We feel the best healing we can offer the World is to be as happy and Peaceful as we can be, is all we can do. I applaud your courage To Speak Your Truth on this Forum. Many here seem Robots that simply echo the 'Airy Fairy' view of The Bible or whatever System of thought they Follow. No Original Thinking.

Send them Light and Love etc. I could say much more, but this argument is to draining to stay with. Im sure YOU understand.

We found we got so Anti Contact After We Retired. We lost the NEED to 'Be Friends" with Humanity. as when you are a Part of the Collective , you Play the game, to earn money and survive. We found once that we Retired that not needing their support, was pivotal, to coming to the Truths you are feeling. Its having the Freedom to let them go that is the Gift, of Not Working. They seem (the fixers who are trying to heal the planet) Fools who are programed to do Exactly as they are to keep the Charade in Place. They are as much of the Problem as the PTB they rave on about. I was One of them, till I could (by not any longer working) discover my TRUE feelings.

Does this mean I will not be Harvested (Law of One)? Maybe, but I am Honoring my heart, thats what matters. Not 'Doing what Im Supposed to do', Doing what I Really feel. To retreat from them is more Bliss than I have ever had. For us this is Heaven, come what may. Honor the Creation by Honoring your real feelings. We have thus found our Bliss with each other.

Maybe you don't need to feel that you should be healed? Maybe your newfound realization IS your Healing. As a Healer I will tell you that there are no BAD emotions Only emotions that you conceal and stuff down. Be that feelings of Love or Bliss. Its the not honoring your real emotions that are the Core of all Disease. Be who You are. All we can do is try to Love all we can, and Do no harm. With those intentions you will moving in a good energy. But by all means Firstly, Follow your True feelings
Be Healed
XOXOXOXO

[Humble Janitor]

You're not alone.

I have a strong distaste for people too right now. I can't explain it but I do sense that it's not their fault and it's years of bottled-up rage slowly seeping out.

[mahalall]

is this a calling to a retreat?
remember life as a troglodyte is not always greener, but it's experience can give one the opportunity to learn the skills and weapons of.....dealing with the madding crowd.
the answer will arise and have courage to take the opportunity my friend.

[Tony]

The ultimate Fu** it! is enlightenment.


When one wakes up, then one can love.

[Peace of Mind]

Hi guys, i never post as much as i probably should.
But over the past 2 months i have lost all taste for hope, but most importantly i have lost all love and care for humans.
This may sound strange but i'm finding it hard to look upon people with anything other than distaste and, anger.
I know i should not feel this way and people can throw "love and light" at me all day.
But fact is for some reason almost over night i have become completely detached.
My job is in retail, and i have always been able to be approachable to people of all types, its been what has made me successful.
But i cannot care anymore, i hope people don't think ill off me, but i cannot help it.
I want to know why this has happened, has anyone else gone through this?
Sometimes i find myself (Odin forgive me for saying this) wishing all the degenerate idiots of society would just die, or just not exist so the whole human race can move on, I know that may sound extreme but i cant help feel it, i wish no ill harm on others but its the way i have been feeling recently, i welcome any help on this.
And if anyone feels like being angry towards me, save your breath i honestly don't care, im on hear to seek advice, and get ahead of this before its too far gone.

Thanks guys, i hope i can get over this.
Sean

Sometimes I feel the same way about humanity, but I also force myself to tolerate humanity. We all have our faults; I had to make great changes in my life too. I can walk out into public and pick tons of things I don’t like about the current state of humanity, but we all need room and time to grow. One of my greatest liabilities is my lack of tolerance. I know I have little of it but I’m working hard on mastering that part of my being. We all have been tricked and not everyone is aware of this yet. We were made to be arrogant, selfish, greedy, egotistical idiots. Once we all realize this we will all do what’s needed to right the wrongs. I rarely get upset but when I do it’s mainly because of others actions within our environment. I want to protect it, while others blindly choose to destroy it. Again, this is my burden….dealing with others can be difficult at times but patience is virtue.

I find it really hard dealing with those who knows better but do nothing other than bump their gums. They can be our biggest hindrance because they have knowledge of what’s happening but they choose to be around those that don’t need them. They are not utilizing their gifts, strengths, spreading the secrets, organizing. They are becoming a waste and the let down to humanity…performing worse than the ignorant sheep. Maybe it’s fear, maybe it’s carelessness, whatever it is…it’s causing disturbances in the vibration of life. When people don’t play their part or neglect their duties… the world can and will look like no one cares. But, I do and a few others too. So, seantimberwolf, continue to do your part while I’ll do mines. I need you, we need you. We don’t need the weak pretending to be strong, or cowards pretending to be brave. They’ll just get in the way…let them find themselves while we pave a safe route for the sleep walkers. Care for them now because later they will return the favor of saving their life. Awakening is happening. Everyone’s alarm clock is not set for the same time.

Peace

[Lord Sidious]

You're not alone.

I have a strong distaste for people too right now. I can't explain it but I do sense that it's not their fault and it's years of bottled-up rage slowly seeping out.

I feel something very similar myself.
After planning for a while to try and show people info that they could use to change their lives and outlooks, I got little response and bulls**t from some people.
When people do that, it makes you feel like you aren't even worth a reply.
So, you wonder why the hell you are trying to help people?
Especially when they want to suck your life force.

[Peace of Mind]

Those looking to assist others gain enough sacred energy to support the cause. LS, you of all should know that the force is with you… :)

Peace

[Fred Steeves]

Sometimes I feel the same way about humanity, but I also force myself to tolerate humanity. We all have our faults; I had to make great changes in my life too. I can walk out into public and pick tons of things I don’t like about the current state of humanity, but we all need room and time to grow. One of my greatest liabilities is my lack of tolerance. I know I have little of it but I’m working hard on mastering that part of my being.

I'm finding it quite ironic that the more I learn about myself that I consider intolerable, the more tolerant I can be towards others. It's a good way of recognizing that we're all in the same boat so to speak.

Cheers,
Fred

[Xenos]

Reading your post i feel little worried... and sad too.

What can you all do to reverse the trend ? I mean... we are living in an energetically world and everything is energy... so your feeling are negative and making you sink... don't you think ?

Maybe my friends, try to transmute your feelings which are a kind energetic signature like frequencies... what you will meet down... is pure nightmare.

I think that we can forget the couplet of "time are changing", because if it was as many "spiritual leader" say, so you should feel happy... and not heavy... maybe your not in phase with the change... ?

Try all to imagine something please. All those stories are lies and your are all waiting for the change feeling bad... "the angel of death" come and kill everybody with the energetic signature that you are emitting... try to imagine. So with the strength of the new age movement, how many dead in my supposition ? Millions, and even billions of dead.

As Jesus (the mushroom lol) said... people who has to understand... will understand my meaning.

Did you ever think about that ?

[merkabagirll]

[FONT="Lucida Console"][FONT="Lucida Console"]Thanks for the post ... I do not envy your retail position! I too have been working through alot of emotional turbulence with regard to people. Seeing the tail end of the sixties gave me a sense that things were going to change in the world and that the values of peace and love would prevail. But then it just disappeared and everyone seemingly went back into the woodwork! These 'hippies' are still here but seem outnumbered!
I've been fluctuating for the past 2-3 years between an angry disgust for people who are ignorant and a deep compassion for our shared lot in life. I try to remember that many people are still asleep because they have been manipulated. I feel fortunate to work from home which enables me to spend alot of time alone and to limit my contact with those of a different mind-set or spirit-path. For me it appears that the density is thickening bringing more pain, frustration, confusion, betrayal, etc. Lately I've been practicing all my 'learnings' by attempting to stay in my 'peace-place' through it all. Going deep within to the place that is unaffected by outside influence. I am beginning to understand that everything that happens 'to' me is really the result of a choice I made somewhere along the line! And I can choose to change my outer environment and my inner response to it. These are challenging times, with the mechanisms of materialism raging full throttle and people running helter-skelter through the mayhem madness we call life. We all need to find the peace within us, wherever it may be, and nurture it deeply.
I have been using 'super-foods' (especially those rich in PEA -the 'feel-good' ingredient found in chocolate) of late to help stabilize my mood and give a general feeling of well-being. The rage has been diminishing each day and I feel energetically transformed!
Thought I would share this documentary that I watched recently that is currently my favorite! It's one of the first ones I've seen that looks at the 'shadow' element of this transitional phase we are moving through. Warm wishes!::hippie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrAgb1-UKQ8[

[Gardener]

You're not alone.

I have a strong distaste for people too right now. I can't explain it but I do sense that it's not their fault and it's years of bottled-up rage slowly seeping out.

I feel something very similar myself.
After planning for a while to try and show people info that they could use to change their lives and outlooks, I got little response and bulls**t from some people.
When people do that, it makes you feel like you aren't even worth a reply.
So, you wonder why the hell you are trying to help people?
Especially when they want to suck your life force.

This is true for me also, and for a number of people I have spoken with lately, all feeling the need to retreat from social arenas. If the anger is inside seeping out perhaps it is our way of taking it into the silence and solitude. Only this afternoon I had an urge to go into a cave and enter into a period of deep prayer and meditation, what's that all about!! I am not sure it is anger for me but there is anger there with it, it feels to me like deep hurt and betrayal, without a direct memory of such. I feel for sure we are entering a period where quantum healing can take place, whatever that might mean, and should we choose to accept it, it is a rough ride. Mirror mirror on the wall.....is that really me?

An after thought, perhaps we are clearing all of our ancestral line which might explain why some of the stuff we don't understand, and why we are not as able to deal with 'out there'. Or at least wait until they ask, then give it all we got.

Buckle up.
g

[merkabagirll]

Here's a song for ya' if ya' like rockin'! 'Hope in a Hopeless World' (Widespread Panic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNV5z-1BAS0

[Patrikas]

You're not alone.

I have a strong distaste for people too right now. I can't explain it but I do sense that it's not their fault and it's years of bottled-up rage slowly seeping out.

I feel something very similar myself.
After planning for a while to try and show people info that they could use to change their lives and outlooks, I got little response and bulls**t from some people.
When people do that, it makes you feel like you aren't even worth a reply.
So, you wonder why the hell you are trying to help people?
Especially when they want to suck your life force.

many are here to work with more that "just " people
that is the true collective...."all of the earth"

[modwiz]

@ Xenos: Odin, war god? Isn't Tiw/Tyr the Aesir god of war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr

Keeping certain storylines straight is part of what I do.

You right, thank you Modwiz, but their is argue point here lol :)

Look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin Odin is a principal member of the Æsir (the major group of the Norse pantheon) and is associated with war, battle, victory and death, but also wisdom, magic, poetry, prophecy, and the hunt. Odin has many sons, the most famous of whom is Thor. Source : Wikipedia

I always learned that Odin was the god of war, and pretty cool god, as Lug in France (Lugdunum that became Lyon my current city).

Odin is nicer than Tyr for me... espcially with his two crows, his tank pulled by goats (if i'm right), magy, poetry, good wife... what a dream ! :)

I was aware of his association with war, but as the All Father he would have some domain over everything. Tyr was a son of his. Asking a father to see that his son assists you in battle is understandable and so a relationship with war is also. I appreciate you bringing the additional information for those who are getting their enhanced understanding of the ancient world here.

[Ultima Thule]

Hi seantimberwolf!

As your situation and feelings changed drastically overnight, I´m wondering whether you had anything unusual happen to you that night or in the evening: were you frightened, took a hit, were you near high voltage or anything out of ordinary? That can reverse human bodys electromagnetic system - usually resulting in starting to view the world in the opposite way than before. When normally a person finds strength from positive feelings, love, inspiration fun etc, with reverse polarity they usually find strength to take action from anger or frustration. This is quite easily tested with kinesiologic muscle testing and can be reverted with(which I know of): acupuncture, using pollen as a supplement and energy patches.

This is but one option, I am sure you have found encouragement from all the mails in here

UT

[Xenos]

@ Xenos: Odin, war god? Isn't Tiw/Tyr the Aesir god of war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr

Keeping certain storylines straight is part of what I do.

You right, thank you Modwiz, but their is argue point here lol :)

Look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin Odin is a principal member of the Æsir (the major group of the Norse pantheon) and is associated with war, battle, victory and death, but also wisdom, magic, poetry, prophecy, and the hunt. Odin has many sons, the most famous of whom is Thor. Source : Wikipedia

I always learned that Odin was the god of war, and pretty cool god, as Lug in France (Lugdunum that became Lyon my current city).

Odin is nicer than Tyr for me... espcially with his two crows, his tank pulled by goats (if i'm right), magy, poetry, good wife... what a dream ! :)

I was aware of his association with war, but as the All Father he would have some domain over everything. Tyr was a son of his. Asking a father to see that his son assists you in battle is understandable and so a relationship with war is also. I appreciate you bringing the additional information for those who are getting their enhanced understanding of the ancient world here.

I like you :panda: It always nice to try to be accurate and i'm totally agree with you.

I salute you :tea:

[Limor Wolf]

Seantimberwolf you are not alone.you are a light warrior,otherwise you would'nt care. YOU DO CARE, therefore you ache,therefore it might be that you build all those walls of seperation around you because of it.

Most of my life I felt this way,disattachment from others,could hardly bare the unharmonious surrounding, suffering, cruelty, uncaring, idiotism. My wake -up call and the discoveries I made (The same as everyone else here) when I was 32 has slowly changed all that.There,I found some Extenuating circumstances for human behavior.

I recently finished reading Paulo Coelho's - "Warrior of the light - A manual" :


"Warrior of light identifies the road as soon as he starts to walk
Every stone, every curve, congratulats him on his arrival,
He identifies with the mountains and rivers, he sees some of his soul in plants, animals and birds in the field
Then, at the time that he recieves the help of God and its signs, he lets his destiny to lead him through life.
There are nights that he has nowhere to sleep, and nights when he can not sleep: "It's part of the deal," think the warrior, I was the one who decided to walk this path.
In this statement exists all his power: he chose the path that he takes now, and has nothing to complain."


"The warrior of light carefully study the position he wishes to conquer.
However difficult his goal, there's always a way to overcome the obstacles. He examines alternative ways, sharpening his sword, trying to constantly fill his heart with the diligence needed to confront the challenge.
However, as he advances, the warrior realized that there are difficulties that he did not consider.
If he waits for the ideal moment he would never move, he needs a touch of madness to take the next step.
The warrior uses a touch of madness and that is because in war and love it is impossible to predict everything in advance."


"Every warrior of light has already been afraid to go into battle
Every warrior of light has already betrayed or lied in the past
Every warrior of light has already walked a way that was not his
Every warrior of light has already thought that he is not a warrior of light
Every warrior of light has failed his spiritual duties
Every warrior of light has already said "yes" when he wanted to say "no"
Every warrior of light has already hurt someone he loved
So this is why he is a warrior of the light: because he passed all those and not lost the hope to be better than he was"


"The light warrior often loses hope.
It seemes to him as if nothing can arouse the excitement that he had hoped for.
Many evenings and nights he had to stay in the position that he achieved.
with no new event that would restore his excitement.
His friends comment: "Perhaps his struggle is over now."
The warrior feels pain and confusion at these comments, because he knew that he did not arrive to where he wanted to.
But he's stubborn, and does not neglect that he decided to do.
Then when least expected it,a new door opens."

Hope it helps

[Seikou-Kishi]

It sounds to me like you've become exasperated. You need to take a little time to yourself and don't even think about anything much until you've built yourself back up a bit :-)

[Seikou-Kishi]

@ Xenos: Odin, war god? Isn't Tiw/Tyr the Aesir god of war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr

Keeping certain storylines straight is part of what I do.

You right, thank you Modwiz, but their is argue point here lol :)

Look : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin Odin is a principal member of the Æsir (the major group of the Norse pantheon) and is associated with war, battle, victory and death, but also wisdom, magic, poetry, prophecy, and the hunt. Odin has many sons, the most famous of whom is Thor. Source : Wikipedia

I always learned that Odin was the god of war, and pretty cool god, as Lug in France (Lugdunum that became Lyon my current city).

Odin is nicer than Tyr for me... espcially with his two crows, his tank pulled by goats (if i'm right), magy, poetry, good wife... what a dream ! :)

I was aware of his association with war, but as the All Father he would have some domain over everything. Tyr was a son of his. Asking a father to see that his son assists you in battle is understandable and so a relationship with war is also. I appreciate you bringing the additional information for those who are getting their enhanced understanding of the ancient world here.

I like you :panda: It always nice to try to be accurate and i'm totally agree with you.

I salute you :tea:

Odin was originally a minor god of death and magic and nothing much else and at that time Tiw/Tyr was the god of war and the sky. Over time Odin rose to prominence and so displaced Tiw/Tyr as chief god and assumed many different roles — the boss gets his thumb in all the pies, lol. There is actually evidence that this process was shifting again but against Odin's favour: Thor was becoming the central god, since things were hallowed and consecrated in his name. Then Christianity came and the Germanic myths crystallised such that Thor was on the ascendency, but Odin was still chief.

[nimmer]

I was thinking of going to Australia to work farms and ranch's i love the outdoors and have a passion for simple hard honest work, maybe through necessity.
Its like i was born in the wrong time, i went to a physic in January who told me i had countless incarnations on earth, and have not had hardly any in modern day.


Have you ever heard of World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms (http://www.wwoof.org)? Basically you go to work on a farm and they board you. They have a site for Australia here (http://www.wwoof.com.au).

Sounds like it may be a good fit. Worth looking into anyways. Personally I would like to go work on a coffee plantation in Hawaii. :biggrin:

[ExHaLaTiON]

I also feel the emotions of soo much negativity towards the people of this earth that dont understand compassion.

I feel your pain Seantimberwolf, look deep inside yourself brother.

Find a way to step outside and around the box.

[Mark]

I was thinking of going to Australia to work farms and ranch's i love the outdoors and have a passion for simple hard honest work, maybe through necessity.

As one who has also gone through the dark night of the soul and is coming out the other side, all I can add is that you need to do it.

Whatever you are feeling now, do it. Follow your intuition. Let go.

If there is a fear of material want that keeps you where you are, let it go and let the multiverse carry you where it will.

Irresponsible? In the viewpoint of the system that imprisons us, yes. In the greater sense of things, no. As Fred says below me, there's no telling whether the outcome will be 'good' or 'bad', but either of those outcomes always leads to something else. Whatever happens, embrace the change. I wish you the best.

[Fellow Aspirant]

I empathize with your feelings, "seantimberwolf". I too have been sliding down into a "trough" in the last few weeks. Thanks to my daughter, however, I was reminded just today that I have a history of depression, as does she. I stopped all medication about a year ago last March, and have been focussing on a compaign of spiritual enlightenment including daily meditation. I was achieving good results until this latest slump. I now put the problem, though, squarely into the category of "Seasonal Affective Disorder" a plight shared by many, and possibly you as well. The problem stems from the waning of sunlight at this time of year. I've always struggled with November "moods" and until a few years ago I usually put it down to a grinding workload with no end in sight till spring. The return of the sun always meant an improvement in my outlook. Now I know that it's a real medical condition. It can be treated with a daily dose of strong UV light. Also, just getting outside into a natural environment does wonders for me. So check out the phenomenon - you may find you have the symptoms to allow you to make a self-diagnosis. If so, there are lots of options for cheap and quick treaments online.

I hope you come out of this "slump" and find your old self soon!

Namaste,

Brian

[LisAlien]

Hi there,

I am hearing more and more of this lately. So I have quasi-concluded, it's normal. First off, look around?! There's not much to be hopeful about. It seems we're all living in that 11th hour of chaotic anticipation and just...waiting for the clock to strike midnight so we can get on with our lives.

Also, I think this is in part, part of the awakening process. Not the disdain so much but realizing the majority of every day people we run into are like zombies. What could you possibly have in common? (rhetorical question)
They are robotic and almost elude any evolutional process. So we then feel alone. And being 'alone' is a bitter-sweet thing. It's necessary but isolating once you're out there hob-knobbing with others.
So in this undeveloped awareness of ours, there's this developed dislike. That may also be because we don't know what we're waking up to which can make us mad/frustrated. It sort of sounds counterproductive. But I think it's a necessary step even though, hypocritical.

You might even subconsciously feel that working in retail is part of the overall problem in society too. People are too focused on 'things' instead of each other.
Society has set that up. I don't think it's natural at all. But after all 'things' is what makes commerce and money is the root of planet Earth's problems.
But I get this feeling, we're going back to square one. The basics. The essentials. The 'love' and until then, we're feeling mad, sad, hopeless, unbalanced, untrusting, unguided, misled, lied to, duped, lost, separated, emotionally, mentally and physically ill and looking for CHANGE.

So your feelings are very justified my friend! Just hang in there!!;)

[Cartomancer]

Keep kicking some retail butt my friend. Hang in there. You are working towards something better than you can imagine. Try and forgive the brainwashed masses. Forgive them.

[skamandar]

Hi wolf
All that you say sounds like you are me :)

Did you ever try to let your warrior personality out - use the words as a sword?
I mean be the warrior you truly are, not only with the small circle of friends but to show your true self to everybody and not act as unaccessible?

Let it out and don't worry for loosing your job for the fact that you are not following the cliche "The customer is always right" "We need to be polite to sell" and all the BS which I am sure you have already heard...

Tell everybody what you think - directly. I think you have the sword to cut all the hypocrite, superficial, rude etc people. Don't hate them - show them where they belong.

My feeling is that you hate them because you are afraid to show your true self due to some societal norms or something..
I also can be wrong, but you asked about opinions :)

[onawah]

I've been re-reading the 3 Law of One books, and there was one thing that really jumped out at me.
As I understand it, it says that when we make the leap from 3rd density to 4th density, on the positive path of Service to Others (STO), we operate from compassion, prompted from identification with the suffering of others.
On that level, we think we need to see and feel the direct effect our service to others has on them.
Otherwise, we don't think our service is effective and we lack feelings of usefulness and fulfillment.

When we move to 5th density, however, we begin to understand that we don't have to interact directly with others or be self sacrificing to be STO.
We can just live our lives in such a way that brings us more personal joy and fulfillment, and by so doing, we are being of service just by creating that positive, harmonious energy, and by setting a good example for others, by showing them that we can claim the freedom to live our lives as we choose and still be giving and connected to other, just in a less direct way.

It may not be so clear cut in real life, but I think it's important to realize, when you feel you are coming to the end of something, to be unafraid, because that probably just augers a new beginning.
It may be scary at first, as anything unfamiliar may be, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you are in a bad place in your life.
It's just that to continue as you are would be a bad thing, and so it is probably time for a change.

When you see clearly that the people who surround you are in a state of mind that feels repulsive, stultifying and deadening to you, that doesn't necessarily mean you have lost your compassion.
It may just mean that you hate to see people stuck in that kind of rut, and you don't want to be stuck there with them, which is perfectly natural and healthy.

The revered Tibetan Buddhist teacher Chogyam Trungpa taught that compassion doesn't come from love, it comes from hatred.
When we truly hate the ignorance that so many live in, eventually we are forced to do something about it.
If we are on the positive path, what we do is something that will bring more light/lifeforce/joy to the world.
You yourself are the conduit through which that energy comes through from Source.
Therefore, you must arrange your life in such a way that you can most effectively bring the greatest amount of that energy through you.

You have come to a point in your life where it sounds like you really need to get away from the mass consciousness.
Solitude, if that is what you crave, can be a wonderful thing.
Lots of old souls live in solitude and love it.
It doesn't mean they are being selfish.
It's just the best way that they can use their human instrument to bring the most light into the world.

Living a solitary life close to Nature is often the best, most healing path for many old souls, even if it's only a matter of having a garden or some plants and animals in your life, or going for a walk in the woods every day.
Those who are ready to "renounce the world" often find the most solace in Nature's simplicity.
In India, the tradition has been for centuries that those who are ready to retire from the world, go and live a simple life of contemplation in the forest.
Or it may just be a matter of arranging it so you are keeping company only with the kind of people you are comfortable with.

"Follow your bliss" may sound like a really airy fairy philosophy, but there is a lot of wisdom in it, if you have the courage to follow it.

Namaste

[efields]

We found its easier to Love our neighbors when we cease contact. Solitude is our gift to the Earth. Simple Bliss emanating from our base.