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letmedanz
5th November 2011, 05:32
Hi everyone,

hope everyone is at peace...
and hope anyone who does, please let me know where i can find some...

well, i am writing this after probably 2 months of contemplation.
once you are though with this post it will surely make more sense.

'things' are happening.
everywhere. all around us, within us and who knows where else.
it is no longer time to question if something will happen, or if something is happening, etc etc.

but it is..

i have been facing strange but subtle 'things' about me and around me.
one of the reasons i have not posted this up until now is this-
am not able to decide how i feel.
on a given day i am filled with so much, just so much of happiness and joy.
every thing i see hear touch and every person i see just makes me feel so happy that i can not understand why.
i can not believe that everything is going so horribly wrong in the world around us.

the very next day i am plunged into absolute grief for no apparent reason.
its a feeling of complete loss of hope...
hatred... hate towards other humans who can not see things and this world for wat it is.. believing that everything that is done by the 'elite' is right cos there is no hope for humanity.
we are parasites who will devour this planet and everything on it including our fellows if the slightest of need arose.

i feel sadness like i can not express. one second am normal and the next i can feel my eyes welling up for no reason. i have probably felt a need to cry, and probably also cried (i have... i have sobbed like a baby like everything is lost) more in the last few days than i have in the 29 yrs of my existence in this dimension.

at times i just feel like am loosing it.. that sooner than i think i am going to loose my sanity..
at other times i wish i could run away.. run away where no man has never stepped a foot or ever will..

i would prefer not to discuss emotions anymore.. as it is a little embarrassing :o

anyhow... i have been feeling a kind of feeling which i do not think i can explain.. but if anyone has heard or felt this you can understand.

its a feeling of lightness in the head.. like waves and ripples all over the inside of my head...
it is a kind of tingling sensation... when it first started a few months back, it was at very long intervals... however, now, i can feel it everytime i move my head...
like i can feel a round container (my head) and inside of it a sea blue mass.. with some space between them.. and mass is moving like a tied boat on water...

i would like to state the below now, cos i think the above lines must have made you understand where am coming from...
it seems like am able to pick up people's thoughts and they are able to pick up mine.
no control what so ever.. and completely unintentional...
in the past week alone, there has been at least 2-3 instances where i am about to say something and the next person says the exact same thing, with the exact same words...
i look at that person and smile cos trying to explain would be madness!
similarly, someone is about to say something & i get it out first...
it is strange for them and they immediately jump up saying 'i was just about the say the same darn thing! how the............'
these sort of occurrences has been with my close ones especially my wife, mum and dad & other really really close buddies.

this also connects to the state where i can almost see through people.
not literally, but i know what a person am talking to is going to say next.
i know what they are really trying to say, complicating it in the language, i know when they are lying, it's just that the emotion & thought behind every statement has already reached me.
unlike the earlier 'ability' i am able to experience this with everyone.. with the same intensity.. and it is crystal clear...

well i think this should be about it.
i had to get this out of me for some reason today.
hope you all understand.
if you reading this line now & you have actually read everything i have written above, i want to thank you with everything i have as this is something really really personal to me and getting it out in the open (albeit in hiding behind my alias) was not the easiest thing to do...

let me know your thoughts and/or any experiences related

thank you again...

peace & happiness to all

G.A
5th November 2011, 05:47
Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in feeling this way, and everything you said word for word describes some of what I have been experiencing as well. Thanks for posting it.

58andfixed
5th November 2011, 06:19
I think this is what people refer to as a "deeply honest relationship" that is NOT what is cultivated in movies and MSM.

It may feel unusual, like going to a nudist camp for the first time.

After awhile, one will acclimatise to this 'different and uncommon' experience, people will feel closer and more honest back.

Just don't place expectations on what shows up .... there will be different colors of the rainbow. :)

I shall 'bare' with you.

- 58



i would prefer not to discuss emotions anymore.. as it is a little embarrassing :o

jorr lundstrom
5th November 2011, 06:40
We are many on that boat, we are heading towards a holographic conscousness where

we are all connected and all have access to the total sum of information available to

the species. A cleaning out of the intraspecies predators, ie the psychopaths who

tries to destroy the planet and the human race is coming. In holographic consciousness

a person who want to destroy the whole system cant be accepted, because each and

everyone will have the power to do just that. So its necessary to take out those persons.

It would have been nicer if this could have been handled in any other way, but unfortu-

nately they dont have the ability to stop themselves. So everything is unfolding as

smooth as possible.

christian
5th November 2011, 09:04
Knowing what others say before they do or when they lie before they do is telepathy. Haven't you heard stories about e.t.s for instance, who would answer to a thought someone had? I experience this every now and then, I acknolewdge it, for just that, telepathy, and it was remarkably intense when I tried LSD with some friends, go figure. However I do not recommend it for regular use, it's pathetic (and in the case of LSD a health risk) to use outside chemical means to access an innate potential.

Regarding the rest of your story, I really do not know what it's all about, but one idea pops up. The body clearly has it phases, affected by planetary cycles, day & night cycles, exhaustion & sleep, food & water sustenance, interaction with others etc. pp., and last but not least by chemical and vibrational attacks, although I put my intent on shielding myself against it and that surely has an effect - Now often times in hindsight I found out that the body reacted to some of those things and that put 'me' in a different mood. These are lessons in discernment and of letting go of attachement to the body. It's like walking around with a dog almost, this walking around with a body. There is a spark of the greater me/us, the spirit, walking with the body and this spark is tranquil virtually all the time, but the body has its needs, like nutrition, human touch and affection, exercise and rest and so on, if I don't take care for the body properly, it may start seeking attention by manifesting mood swings and/or physical/optical/whatever sensations through chemical means and energetic means, I guess. By energetic means I mean the natural body energy field, which I cannot describe scientifically, but I can see it and we all feel it. It's really important to differentiate between the body energy and the spirit energy, I feel, there are people with a big body energy, people who work out a lot for example, but with little spirit energy and vice versa. And surely not every strange sensation originates from the attention seeking body, I just want to point out, that this is a possible and quite frequent origin.

For example, after having worked quite a lot over the last 6 months, riding alone on my bike 6 days a week again and again 'I' experienced a strange sadness out of the blue. Through meditating (being quiet and open for insights to come in, when it's appropriate) I found out, that my body was simply craving for interaction with others, like a child becoming whiny. I then explained to the body, this will be over soon, I'll stop this job and will work less, move to a city and do more human relations and in an instant, I felt a rush of energy through the body and I could continue my daily tour invigorated. - Now you might think it's strange to talk to the body like to a child or a dog, but I feel that's exactly how spirit healing on the body works, the spirit is the boss but then again dependent on the body when it comes to being able to exist in 3d. So may the body respect its boss and the boss spare its asset.

1159
5th November 2011, 09:19
What we are feeling and sensing is common to just about everyone. Even those who are unaware, not looking for anything and unconsciously going about their lives. WE all sense some subtle and not so subtle changes both in our environment externally and internally.

If we look to nature, she is certainly sensing changes and responding accordingly. We have seen more earth changes and anomalies in plant and animals this year than ever before. We are all been drawn inexorably into some vortex of change.

There are 2 main parts to this. First, this is a natural cycle of energetic shift that many seers like the Hopi and Mayans have recorded. Secondly, as we become aware of this shift, we awaken and begin to contribute to this movement, either consciously and creatively or unconsciously.

People talk about DNA restructuring. This is an interesting idea and maybe true, although it's hard to measure and demonstrate. What is more 'tangible' is the fact that electromagnetic radiation is increasing globally. WE are immersed in a sea of electromagnetic activity that's not only man made, but arriving from off-world sources.

Putting all this in context: We are primarily electromagnetic beings. That is, our brains and neuro structures are sensitive to electromagnetic energy. Up to a certain point we can filter external influences and protect ourselves from background energies.

What is happening at this time is a powerful overload of energetic influences that are bombarding us from all directions. Some of this is constructive and creative and some is clearly negative. Whatever its nature, we will feel it and respond in different ways.

Sleep maybe disrupted, headakes, heart arrhythmia, strange dreams, vertigo, spontaneous awareness of unusual memories, tinnitus, moments of heightened thoughts, premonitions and visions are all typical symptoms of how our minds respond to this overload. Although some of this maybe unpleasant for us, we should remember how wildlife has suffered greatly in recent months.

Birds, fish, jellyfish, bees, frogs, to name a few have been affected to the point of becoming totally disorientated to the point of breakdown. These creatures rely heavily on electromagnetic information for navigation and instinctive impulses.

As Humans, we are supposedly custodians of this Earth. It falls upon us to filter the noise from the positive energy of change. We are co-creators of this world and it remains to be seen how we cope with this evolutionary change. Wether we crash to earth or ascend depends on how we steer this ship.

Ineffable Hitchhiker
5th November 2011, 09:39
Wow! Such great responses from everyone. http://i40.tinypic.com/sdg0ox.gif

Hi letmedanz,
thank you for sharing what you are experiencing.
As G.A. and Jorr said, many of us are experiencing great waves of mixed emotions. You are not alone.
I too am sometimes absolutely clear in my thoughts and the next minute completely foggy.
I try to observe what is happening and have been trying to let go of any attachment to any given situation, recognising that this is a phase and "this too shall pass".
Yeah. Swings and roundabouts. http://i44.tinypic.com/x41a9j.gif


You said :-



hope everyone is at peace...
and hope anyone who does, please let me know where i can find some...


Peace is always there. It is our thoughts and emotions that "disturb" this peace.

The way you describe your telepathic experiences is very interesting.
I hope you are able to accept what is happening and find your peace with what is.

Someoneson1
5th November 2011, 09:54
The veil is comming down. The veil is comming down. or is that the sky is falling. Damn maybee the red coats are comming? Nope pretty sure the veil is comming down.

Yippie no more secrets no more codes no more hierarchies dirty looks. "Schools out"

Lol some times I kill me.

Zillah
5th November 2011, 20:12
I noticed from your post that you are 28 and a half or so -- I wanted to bring up a point that might add some clarity in addition to the already provided responses (which are on point btw)...

There is an astrological phenomenon regarding Saturn which occurs between the ages 27 and 29. During this time there is a “clearing the decks of karmic debris for a clean course for the next cycle.” Now, add this onto all the other events occurring on Earth and in our Universe currently, you got yourself a hyper-sensitive, super-emphatic, 0 tolerant, full-spectrum emotional cluster f*ck of things goin on! When I hit 29 (Im 30 now) I could have wrote your exact post - so you're not alone - you are actually right on cycle.

It's interesting because Amy Winehouse died in this age gap, as well as other well-known celebrities like Jim Morrison, James Dean, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain and Heath Ledger all decided to "leave the earth plane" at this time too. When Winehouse died, there was an episode of Coast to Coast AM about this phenomenon that is worth listening to. It may seem silly at first, but upon further investigation - there does appear to be something unique about this age group and its relation to death.

It seems when we enter a transition into a new Age (with a captial A), some decide they don't want to go, or cant - rebirthing and ascending is not for the faint of heart, and I feel you are coming into your own and expanding while you are doing it .... rapidly.

Do some googling on "Saturn return age 29 astrology" and you can read more.

Here is one description I found and I suggest to read it - but please take what resonates and leave the rest - I'm not a 100% believe all I read/see person - but I do like collecting things that hit home for me, and that usually means from multiple sources until I feel that sense of completeness. :angel:

Rob Tillett presents a short description of the astrological meaning of the planet Saturn, the lord of karma, restriction, structure, old age and reaping what we have sown. Saturn rules the past. A key period in life is the Saturn Return (around age 29 and 58), when circumstances conspire to make us reconsider our past and devise new structures for the future. Now read on...

Giant Saturn, the outermost planet visible to the naked eye, spends some two and a half years in each sign, taking about twenty-nine years on his journey around the zodiac. Saturn's most distinctive astronomical feature is that magnificent set of rings, but Saturn is also the centre of a swirling mini-solar-system with dozens of small moons. The largest of these moons, Titan, is bigger than Mercury or Pluto and possesses a dense atmosphere. The weirdest is Iapetus, which some claim to be an artificial satellite, due to its several anomalies.

Astrologically the planetary Lord of Aquarius and Capricorn, Saturn, a harvest god, is known as the grim reaper – hence his exaltation in Libra, the sign of the harvest – yet in Ancient Rome the mythical age of Saturn's reign was envisaged as a golden age of happiness, without theft or servitude, and without private property. This prehistoric era was celebrated in Roman times at the darkness of the Winter Solstice, when laws and customs were turned on their heads at the Saturnalia. This festival commemorated the time of chaos before the Sun is reborn. Our era has incorporated these celebrations into the Christmas festivities.

Karmic Lessons

In mythology, grim Saturn castrated and overthrew his father, Uranus, but he also devoured his own children, for it was prophesied that one of them would destroy him. Indeed, he was eventually overthrown by his mighty son, Jupiter, heralding the beginning of civilisation.

Traditionally described as the "Greater Infortune" (or "Greater Malefic", Mars being the "Lesser Malefic"), Saturn rules the responsibilities, restrictions and limitations we are apt to encounter, and the lessons we must learn in life. He does not deny or diminish imagination, inspiration, spirituality, or good fortune, but he does demand that these things be given structure and meaning, for he also governs tact, steady thought and serious contemplation.

Saturn rules sorrow and regret and things connected with the past, for suffering is the doorway to wisdom. The karmic lessons we have come to experience and overcome in this lifetime are expressed by Saturn, the karmic initiator of the zodiac. These are often restriction or oppression in relationships; chronic debilitating conditions in health; old age, poverty and other difficult circumstances in material life. Saturn rules old people, restrictive situations, the common people, the working classes, inflexible authority and chronic, hard-to-shift disorders.

Saturn's placement in the chart reveals the areas of life wherein we must undergo these karmic tests, but his condition by sign, house and aspect shows whether or not we may be cast down, or exalted by his influence, as a well-placed Saturn is an influence that can bring supreme success. Patience and thoroughness will generally offset the more problematic influences of Saturn, at least in terms of the anxiety they create, because Saturn rarely troubles those who are straightforward, systematic, and above all, patient.

The Saturn Return

Each twenty-nine years naturally presents us with the challenge to rise to new levels of awareness, or face the consequences of having failed to gain the wisdom required so to do. When Saturn in the heavens returns to the zodiacal degree where he was placed in your birth chart, you are said to be experiencing what astrologers call your Saturn Return – one of the most important times of your life. It only happens once every 29 years, so at around age 28-30, 57-59 and (if you live long enough) 86-88 you have a Saturn Return. This signifies a time of transformation, an emotional transition from one life-phase to the next.

The first Saturn return (around age 28-30) marks the transition from the Phase of Youth to the Phase of Maturity; the second from the Phase of Maturity to the Phase of Wisdom. The last one, if reached, seems usually to mark the transition either to the next world or else back to a second childhood!

As the Saturn return approaches, often our lives seem to speed up, as if hurrying to clear out old baggage from the past, to lighten the load for the next stage. Important things that either finalize old issues, or prepare the ground for new developments tend to occur with increasing frequency. For those who are unprepared, this is often a time of severe suffering, as we struggle to understand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune that seem to be aimed squarely at our hearts. Indeed, relationships and major life-decisions are all too often the focal points for this clearing out of karmic baggage.

another bob
5th November 2011, 20:51
....am not able to decide how i feel.

Greetings, Friend!

Are you willing to experiment by just sitting still in the midst of uncertainty and not trying to figure it out with mind, just letting it all unfold without scrambling for a place to plant some flag of "me"? Can you refrain from superimposing some borrowed concept on whatever appears, just letting everything reveal itself just as it is -- a fresh breeze of consciousness just wafting by, with no need to race after it demanding explanations? If so, if you are willing, then just persevere with integrity, and enjoy the ride -- it's been designed just for you with the utmost loving care!

Blessings!

shadowstalker
5th November 2011, 21:05
Hi everyone,

hope everyone is at peace...
and hope anyone who does, please let me know where i can find some...

well, i am writing this after probably 2 months of contemplation.
once you are though with this post it will surely make more sense.

'things' are happening.
everywhere. all around us, within us and who knows where else.
it is no longer time to question if something will happen, or if something is happening, etc etc.

but it is..

i have been facing strange but subtle 'things' about me and around me.
one of the reasons i have not posted this up until now is this-
am not able to decide how i feel.
on a given day i am filled with so much, just so much of happiness and joy.
every thing i see hear touch and every person i see just makes me feel so happy that i can not understand why.
i can not believe that everything is going so horribly wrong in the world around us.

the very next day i am plunged into absolute grief for no apparent reason.
its a feeling of complete loss of hope...
hatred... hate towards other humans who can not see things and this world for wat it is.. believing that everything that is done by the 'elite' is right cos there is no hope for humanity.
we are parasites who will devour this planet and everything on it including our fellows if the slightest of need arose.

i feel sadness like i can not express. one second am normal and the next i can feel my eyes welling up for no reason. i have probably felt a need to cry, and probably also cried (i have... i have sobbed like a baby like everything is lost) more in the last few days than i have in the 29 yrs of my existence in this dimension.

at times i just feel like am loosing it.. that sooner than i think i am going to loose my sanity..
at other times i wish i could run away.. run away where no man has never stepped a foot or ever will..

i would prefer not to discuss emotions anymore.. as it is a little embarrassing :o

anyhow... i have been feeling a kind of feeling which i do not think i can explain.. but if anyone has heard or felt this you can understand.

its a feeling of lightness in the head.. like waves and ripples all over the inside of my head...
it is a kind of tingling sensation... when it first started a few months back, it was at very long intervals... however, now, i can feel it everytime i move my head...
like i can feel a round container (my head) and inside of it a sea blue mass.. with some space between them.. and mass is moving like a tied boat on water...

i would like to state the below now, cos i think the above lines must have made you understand where am coming from...
it seems like am able to pick up people's thoughts and they are able to pick up mine.
no control what so ever.. and completely unintentional...
in the past week alone, there has been at least 2-3 instances where i am about to say something and the next person says the exact same thing, with the exact same words...
i look at that person and smile cos trying to explain would be madness!
similarly, someone is about to say something & i get it out first...
it is strange for them and they immediately jump up saying 'i was just about the say the same darn thing! how the............'
these sort of occurrences has been with my close ones especially my wife, mum and dad & other really really close buddies.

this also connects to the state where i can almost see through people.
not literally, but i know what a person am talking to is going to say next.
i know what they are really trying to say, complicating it in the language, i know when they are lying, it's just that the emotion & thought behind every statement has already reached me.
unlike the earlier 'ability' i am able to experience this with everyone.. with the same intensity.. and it is crystal clear...

well i think this should be about it.
i had to get this out of me for some reason today.
hope you all understand.
if you reading this line now & you have actually read everything i have written above, i want to thank you with everything i have as this is something really really personal to me and getting it out in the open (albeit in hiding behind my alias) was not the easiest thing to do...

let me know your thoughts and/or any experiences related

thank you again...

peace & happiness to all
Word for word right along side with you

letmedanz
6th November 2011, 19:50
Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in feeling this way, and everything you said word for word describes some of what I have been experiencing as well. Thanks for posting it.

Thanks GA.
i was certain i was not the only one, just a good feeling to know nothing is 'wrong' with me.

letmedanz
6th November 2011, 19:54
I think this is what people refer to as a "deeply honest relationship" that is NOT what is cultivated in movies and MSM.

It may feel unusual, like going to a nudist camp for the first time.

After awhile, one will acclimatise to this 'different and uncommon' experience, people will feel closer and more honest back.

Just don't place expectations on what shows up .... there will be different colors of the rainbow. :)

I shall 'bare' with you.

- 58



i would prefer not to discuss emotions anymore.. as it is a little embarrassing :o

Different colors of the rainbow indeed!
when i allowed myself to think that i was going through the cleansing phase & that maybe i could be one to move forward to the 'promised golden age', it does frighten me to know that i do still have these feelings of anger & disgust towards humanity & most individuals cos of they complete lack of goodness.

But well i guess we will still be human!

Fundy Gemini
6th November 2011, 20:22
-wow-
I am new here, and have come because of my search. I am new at this search, but am very much ensconced in a 'normal' traditional life - so that when one decides to delve into this subject, they find themselves (seemingly) alone. Your message touched me deeply. I have felt - and continue to feel - all the very same emotions you describe. If noting else it is nice to know that we are not truly alone. Thank yo so much for sharing.

With the world as it is today - it's exceedingly difficult to balance the contradiction of our 'regular' daily lives and the spiraling confusion of the 'real' world.
I think that at our core we all knew 'something' was missing - and we have always searched for what that 'something' was - but- there is a reason for the saying "ignorance is bliss" :)

So now we are searching together, and there is power in numbers - and our greatest strength is the Source Field that connects us all, which can NOT be tampered with.

I say, continue being Awake and Aware and Connected to your feelings and intuitions. Like you I often feel elated, then rethink and feel only desperation. It is at that time you have to pray/meditate FOCUS on Love- Light- and Good. Actively appreciate all of the gifts around you (a little chickadee picking at a berry - a child with a doll - a fresh bright day - there is no end to the gifts you can call attention to) And then - harness that wonderful feeling and push it out into the world in any way you can. Good will always be more powerful than evil -

Sending you Love ♥

jjjones
6th November 2011, 21:58
letmedanz, don't fret, you are far from alone with this tsunami of emotional fluctuation. It is amazing how our energy is connected in all creation and we are one and on this roller-coaster ride together. I started to wonder if i was in menopause/ just crazier than i really am.LOL thank you and all who responded, we are very fortunate to be part of the Avalonian Family and can speak our true feelings. namaste, love and peace universally :)

sunflower
6th November 2011, 22:42
letmedanz, tears came to my eyes when I read your post. I must go back and reread all the posts in this thread. Bits and pieces here and there describe my own experiences up till now. I often fervently wish we could all `get there` as soon as possible.

Sierra
6th November 2011, 23:08
letmedanz,

You described perfectly, down to a T, the storm I've been weathering for the last month (Libras came under the gun this October). And your last comment about how your bouts of negative emotions make you feel unsure about your own spiritual progression ... <laying head down on desk> hoh! I think that's the worst, the very worst.

Sierra :wave:

letmedanz
6th November 2011, 23:41
-wow-
I am new here, and have come because of my search. I am new at this search, but am very much ensconced in a 'normal' traditional life - so that when one decides to delve into this subject, they find themselves (seemingly) alone. Your message touched me deeply. I have felt - and continue to feel - all the very same emotions you describe. If noting else it is nice to know that we are not truly alone. Thank yo so much for sharing.

With the world as it is today - it's exceedingly difficult to balance the contradiction of our 'regular' daily lives and the spiraling confusion of the 'real' world.
I think that at our core we all knew 'something' was missing - and we have always searched for what that 'something' was - but- there is a reason for the saying "ignorance is bliss" :)

So now we are searching together, and there is power in numbers - and our greatest strength is the Source Field that connects us all, which can NOT be tampered with.

I say, continue being Awake and Aware and Connected to your feelings and intuitions. Like you I often feel elated, then rethink and feel only desperation. It is at that time you have to pray/meditate FOCUS on Love- Light- and Good. Actively appreciate all of the gifts around you (a little chickadee picking at a berry - a child with a doll - a fresh bright day - there is no end to the gifts you can call attention to) And then - harness that wonderful feeling and push it out into the world in any way you can. Good will always be more powerful than evil -

Sending you Love ♥

Thank you for your note Fundy Gemini
It was indeed in my search that i did and most of us here have reached here.
And in all probability there ae a number of other such gatherings happening now online, in their normal lives, any where...
just hope to see a day of reality to humanity, to what life is and where we should really be happy.

thank you

letmedanz
6th November 2011, 23:55
Knowing what others say before they do or when they lie before they do is telepathy. Haven't you heard stories about e.t.s for instance, who would answer to a thought someone had? I experience this every now and then, I acknolewdge it, for just that, telepathy, and it was remarkably intense when I tried LSD with some friends, go figure. However I do not recommend it for regular use, it's pathetic (and in the case of LSD a health risk) to use outside chemical means to access an innate potential.

Regarding the rest of your story, I really do not know what it's all about, but one idea pops up. The body clearly has it phases, affected by planetary cycles, day & night cycles, exhaustion & sleep, food & water sustenance, interaction with others etc. pp., and last but not least by chemical and vibrational attacks, although I put my intent on shielding myself against it and that surely has an effect - Now often times in hindsight I found out that the body reacted to some of those things and that put 'me' in a different mood. These are lessons in discernment and of letting go of attachement to the body. It's like walking around with a dog almost, this walking around with a body. There is a spark of the greater me/us, the spirit, walking with the body and this spark is tranquil virtually all the time, but the body has its needs, like nutrition, human touch and affection, exercise and rest and so on, if I don't take care for the body properly, it may start seeking attention by manifesting mood swings and/or physical/optical/whatever sensations through chemical means and energetic means, I guess. By energetic means I mean the natural body energy field, which I cannot describe scientifically, but I can see it and we all feel it. It's really important to differentiate between the body energy and the spirit energy, I feel, there are people with a big body energy, people who work out a lot for example, but with little spirit energy and vice versa. And surely not every strange sensation originates from the attention seeking body, I just want to point out, that this is a possible and quite frequent origin.

For example, after having worked quite a lot over the last 6 months, riding alone on my bike 6 days a week again and again 'I' experienced a strange sadness out of the blue. Through meditating (being quiet and open for insights to come in, when it's appropriate) I found out, that my body was simply craving for interaction with others, like a child becoming whiny. I then explained to the body, this will be over soon, I'll stop this job and will work less, move to a city and do more human relations and in an instant, I felt a rush of energy through the body and I could continue my daily tour invigorated. - Now you might think it's strange to talk to the body like to a child or a dog, but I feel that's exactly how spirit healing on the body works, the spirit is the boss but then again dependent on the body when it comes to being able to exist in 3d. So may the body respect its boss and the boss spare its asset.

Indeed chiquetet
Talking about the influence of external agents (like LSD), i have felt the ability to be at its strongest.
i have also noticed it to be stronger with people you are around.
When i did have this activity with my wife, i almost felt to be one with her.. i could almost see through to the very inside of who she was... not the physical that i see and touch but the soul within, the purity of that feeling is not describable by words.
for a certain while we shared thoughts without realizing it to be anything like telepathy, but incidents do indicate the same now...

The Vippassanna method of meditation talks a lot about energies and relation to the body.
i definitely agree with your description of body energy & soul energy.

Anchor
6th November 2011, 23:59
at times i just feel like am loosing it.. that sooner than i think i am going to loose my sanity..
at other times i wish i could run away.. run away where no man has never stepped a foot or ever will..

You are not loosing it, everything is changing.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13534-You-are-not-losing-it-everything-is-changing

You are not alone.

You are not weird.

This is not new.

We are each unique in our experience, but there is a lot of common ground between us all in so many areas of life.

Our job is to help support each-others differences.

You are right where you need to be.

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 00:10
What we are feeling and sensing is common to just about everyone. Even those who are unaware, not looking for anything and unconsciously going about their lives. WE all sense some subtle and not so subtle changes both in our environment externally and internally.

If we look to nature, she is certainly sensing changes and responding accordingly. We have seen more earth changes and anomalies in plant and animals this year than ever before. We are all been drawn inexorably into some vortex of change.

There are 2 main parts to this. First, this is a natural cycle of energetic shift that many seers like the Hopi and Mayans have recorded. Secondly, as we become aware of this shift, we awaken and begin to contribute to this movement, either consciously and creatively or unconsciously.

People talk about DNA restructuring. This is an interesting idea and maybe true, although it's hard to measure and demonstrate. What is more 'tangible' is the fact that electromagnetic radiation is increasing globally. WE are immersed in a sea of electromagnetic activity that's not only man made, but arriving from off-world sources.

Putting all this in context: We are primarily electromagnetic beings. That is, our brains and neuro structures are sensitive to electromagnetic energy. Up to a certain point we can filter external influences and protect ourselves from background energies.

What is happening at this time is a powerful overload of energetic influences that are bombarding us from all directions. Some of this is constructive and creative and some is clearly negative. Whatever its nature, we will feel it and respond in different ways.

Sleep maybe disrupted, headakes, heart arrhythmia, strange dreams, vertigo, spontaneous awareness of unusual memories, tinnitus, moments of heightened thoughts, premonitions and visions are all typical symptoms of how our minds respond to this overload. Although some of this maybe unpleasant for us, we should remember how wildlife has suffered greatly in recent months.

Birds, fish, jellyfish, bees, frogs, to name a few have been affected to the point of becoming totally disorientated to the point of breakdown. These creatures rely heavily on electromagnetic information for navigation and instinctive impulses.

As Humans, we are supposedly custodians of this Earth. It falls upon us to filter the noise from the positive energy of change. We are co-creators of this world and it remains to be seen how we cope with this evolutionary change. Wether we crash to earth or ascend depends on how we steer this ship.

Yes 1159, i have given a lot of thought to everything you have written.
There is definitely a relation between any electro magnetic radiation and human life, plant & animal life well.
it is possible that smaller life forms & basically all forms of life are having some effect or other.

Also deducing further, this also proves that there is some definite energy coming to us, that which is different in ways of intensity, frequency etc etc, one which is different what life and earth has felt up until now (At least in this recorded history o earth)

i have always felt a deep sense of attachment to earth and all creatures on her
i do not have any aversion to any animal, insect, reptile of any kind.. and do not understand people's fears, hatred, disgust sometimes toward them.

we are here to protect this planet and all life on it in any way possible.
one thing we have and can produce in abundance is positive energy and true love for this planet.
as you rightly point we are the custodians of this planet...
let us do anything we can for a happy tomorrow

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 00:15
Wow! Such great responses from everyone. http://i40.tinypic.com/sdg0ox.gif

Hi letmedanz,
thank you for sharing what you are experiencing.
As G.A. and Jorr said, many of us are experiencing great waves of mixed emotions. You are not alone.
I too am sometimes absolutely clear in my thoughts and the next minute completely foggy.
I try to observe what is happening and have been trying to let go of any attachment to any given situation, recognising that this is a phase and "this too shall pass".
Yeah. Swings and roundabouts. http://i44.tinypic.com/x41a9j.gif


You said :-



hope everyone is at peace...
and hope anyone who does, please let me know where i can find some...


Peace is always there. It is our thoughts and emotions that "disturb" this peace.

The way you describe your telepathic experiences is very interesting.
I hope you are able to accept what is happening and find your peace with what is.

Reading the response from everyone just makes me feel more at ease Ineffable Hitchhiker .

This is a phase and it surely shall pass..........
my only wish is for it to reach the shores of peace and happiness for all for a more permanent time.

everyone has suffered enough to reach this point & it is suffering, despair and pain that makes people do disagreeable things... so if everyone has inner peace & happiness all around am certain we will have a golden age indeed.


PS--- i think am on one of good days.
i'll possibly read my post tomorrow and totally hate it ;)

Seikou-Kishi
7th November 2011, 00:16
You don't know how you feel? Well I'm betting you fit right in with the rest of us. I should say most of us have accepted a sort of functional uncertainty. It's nice when people don't have all the answers :-)

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 00:18
The veil is comming down. The veil is comming down. or is that the sky is falling. Damn maybee the red coats are comming? Nope pretty sure the veil is comming down.

Yippie no more secrets no more codes no more hierarchies dirty looks. "Schools out"

Lol some times I kill me.

You certainly do spread joy through your post Someoneson1
and there definitely a shortage of that in our world today.

Thank you :)

lightning23
7th November 2011, 00:26
:closed::closed:

modwiz
7th November 2011, 01:39
If we met up at a nudist colony I could bare with you.

Your post could have been mine on certain days. It could have been most of the forum's. You are very much in good company. As long as a bunch of people going through growing pains is good company.

Sierra
7th November 2011, 02:00
Also deducing further, this also proves that there is some definite energy coming to us, that which is different in ways of intensity, frequency etc etc, one which is different what life and earth has felt up until now

Maybe this will be interesting. It speaks of energy as outside of us flowing to us from the galactic center ... and thus when we become aware of the flow, we can align with it...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33710-HALLOWEEN-s-CONNECTION-TO-PLEIADES&p=344689&viewfull=1#post344689

And here is the site for figuring out sidereal time for aligning to maximum energy. All you have to do is plug in the closest city and verify the date and time:
http://www.jgiesen.de/astro/astroJS/siderealClock/

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 03:03
I noticed from your post that you are 28 and a half or so -- I wanted to bring up a point that might add some clarity in addition to the already provided responses (which are on point btw)...

There is an astrological phenomenon regarding Saturn which occurs between the ages 27 and 29. During this time there is a “clearing the decks of karmic debris for a clean course for the next cycle.” Now, add this onto all the other events occurring on Earth and in our Universe currently, you got yourself a hyper-sensitive, super-emphatic, 0 tolerant, full-spectrum emotional cluster f*ck of things goin on! When I hit 29 (Im 30 now) I could have wrote your exact post - so you're not alone - you are actually right on cycle.

It's interesting because Amy Winehouse died in this age gap, as well as other well-known celebrities like Jim Morrison, James Dean, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain and Heath Ledger all decided to "leave the earth plane" at this time too. When Winehouse died, there was an episode of Coast to Coast AM about this phenomenon that is worth listening to. It may seem silly at first, but upon further investigation - there does appear to be something unique about this age group and its relation to death.

It seems when we enter a transition into a new Age (with a captial A), some decide they don't want to go, or cant - rebirthing and ascending is not for the faint of heart, and I feel you are coming into your own and expanding while you are doing it .... rapidly.

Do some googling on "Saturn return age 29 astrology" and you can read more.

Here is one description I found and I suggest to read it - but please take what resonates and leave the rest - I'm not a 100% believe all I read/see person - but I do like collecting things that hit home for me, and that usually means from multiple sources until I feel that sense of completeness. :angel:

Rob Tillett presents a short description of the astrological meaning of the planet Saturn, the lord of karma, restriction, structure, old age and reaping what we have sown. Saturn rules the past. A key period in life is the Saturn Return (around age 29 and 58), when circumstances conspire to make us reconsider our past and devise new structures for the future. Now read on...

Giant Saturn, the outermost planet visible to the naked eye, spends some two and a half years in each sign, taking about twenty-nine years on his journey around the zodiac. Saturn's most distinctive astronomical feature is that magnificent set of rings, but Saturn is also the centre of a swirling mini-solar-system with dozens of small moons. The largest of these moons, Titan, is bigger than Mercury or Pluto and possesses a dense atmosphere. The weirdest is Iapetus, which some claim to be an artificial satellite, due to its several anomalies.

Astrologically the planetary Lord of Aquarius and Capricorn, Saturn, a harvest god, is known as the grim reaper – hence his exaltation in Libra, the sign of the harvest – yet in Ancient Rome the mythical age of Saturn's reign was envisaged as a golden age of happiness, without theft or servitude, and without private property. This prehistoric era was celebrated in Roman times at the darkness of the Winter Solstice, when laws and customs were turned on their heads at the Saturnalia. This festival commemorated the time of chaos before the Sun is reborn. Our era has incorporated these celebrations into the Christmas festivities.

Karmic Lessons

In mythology, grim Saturn castrated and overthrew his father, Uranus, but he also devoured his own children, for it was prophesied that one of them would destroy him. Indeed, he was eventually overthrown by his mighty son, Jupiter, heralding the beginning of civilisation.

Traditionally described as the "Greater Infortune" (or "Greater Malefic", Mars being the "Lesser Malefic"), Saturn rules the responsibilities, restrictions and limitations we are apt to encounter, and the lessons we must learn in life. He does not deny or diminish imagination, inspiration, spirituality, or good fortune, but he does demand that these things be given structure and meaning, for he also governs tact, steady thought and serious contemplation.

Saturn rules sorrow and regret and things connected with the past, for suffering is the doorway to wisdom. The karmic lessons we have come to experience and overcome in this lifetime are expressed by Saturn, the karmic initiator of the zodiac. These are often restriction or oppression in relationships; chronic debilitating conditions in health; old age, poverty and other difficult circumstances in material life. Saturn rules old people, restrictive situations, the common people, the working classes, inflexible authority and chronic, hard-to-shift disorders.

Saturn's placement in the chart reveals the areas of life wherein we must undergo these karmic tests, but his condition by sign, house and aspect shows whether or not we may be cast down, or exalted by his influence, as a well-placed Saturn is an influence that can bring supreme success. Patience and thoroughness will generally offset the more problematic influences of Saturn, at least in terms of the anxiety they create, because Saturn rarely troubles those who are straightforward, systematic, and above all, patient.

The Saturn Return

Each twenty-nine years naturally presents us with the challenge to rise to new levels of awareness, or face the consequences of having failed to gain the wisdom required so to do. When Saturn in the heavens returns to the zodiacal degree where he was placed in your birth chart, you are said to be experiencing what astrologers call your Saturn Return – one of the most important times of your life. It only happens once every 29 years, so at around age 28-30, 57-59 and (if you live long enough) 86-88 you have a Saturn Return. This signifies a time of transformation, an emotional transition from one life-phase to the next.

The first Saturn return (around age 28-30) marks the transition from the Phase of Youth to the Phase of Maturity; the second from the Phase of Maturity to the Phase of Wisdom. The last one, if reached, seems usually to mark the transition either to the next world or else back to a second childhood!

As the Saturn return approaches, often our lives seem to speed up, as if hurrying to clear out old baggage from the past, to lighten the load for the next stage. Important things that either finalize old issues, or prepare the ground for new developments tend to occur with increasing frequency. For those who are unprepared, this is often a time of severe suffering, as we struggle to understand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune that seem to be aimed squarely at our hearts. Indeed, relationships and major life-decisions are all too often the focal points for this clearing out of karmic baggage.

Wow! Absolutely fascinating.

this is the very first i have even thought of relating age & zodiac in the mix.
though always believed the stars always influenced everything about us, it was somehow placed right at the back of my mind.
This post by you has really opened a brand new set level of thought, Thank you!

well, yes i am 28 turning 29 in Feb next year which indicates i from the Aquarius sun-sign.
I did get married earlier this year and believe i have found in my wife a true soul mate.....
talk about a new beginning :)

definitely going to read about Saturn and the age influence... thank you very much!

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 03:30
letmedanz, tears came to my eyes when I read your post. I must go back and reread all the posts in this thread. Bits and pieces here and there describe my own experiences up till now. I often fervently wish we could all `get there` as soon as possible.

I understand your emotion & thank you for your words.
i am certain we'll be 'there' when we are meant to be :)
Just the fact that there others with us makes it more worthy!

raregem
7th November 2011, 04:00
Hi LetmeDance- lol...would love to be out on the floor with you with laughter and joy !
Now to the dance of life. Such emotions ..my gratitude to you for sharing your feelings and confusions.
I was not aware of the Saturn return cycles evey 29 years in our life as described by Zillah ( TY Zilla).

At 29 I had a large cancer mass...guess I wanted to stay. At 52 I question why I wanted to stay on earth as so much is emotionally heavy. Very difficult to find others of like mind in person. People who appreciate being joyful, appreciate the beauty here. And, now we are experiencing the lifting of the veil. This alone is exciting yet, heavy all at the same time. Then , we also deal with subtle energy manipulations. To be aware and steadfast constantly really wears on me anymore. Reading these posts helps me to remember and renew my strength in the love of life thinking -regardless of outside influence.
Hang fast , hang strong. We have strength as ONE. Project Avalon definately is where I want to be for some of this renewal and reminders of self. Inside out or outside in.

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 04:24
letmedanz,

You described perfectly, down to a T, the storm I've been weathering for the last month (Libras came under the gun this October). And your last comment about how your bouts of negative emotions make you feel unsure about your own spiritual progression ... <laying head down on desk> hoh! I think that's the worst, the very worst.

Sierra :wave:

Thank you Sierra. I must admit i am quite surprised with the responses & the nod of approval from so many people.
It is another sound example to the fact our consciousness is one AND that there is something happening to bring us together.

I now firmly believe the time has arrived & it is left up to us to welcome it with open arms, allow it to frisk us away to a new period of happiness, awareness & peace.

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 04:29
at times i just feel like am loosing it.. that sooner than i think i am going to loose my sanity..
at other times i wish i could run away.. run away where no man has never stepped a foot or ever will..

You are not loosing it, everything is changing.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13534-You-are-not-losing-it-everything-is-changing

You are not alone.

You are not weird.

This is not new.

We are each unique in our experience, but there is a lot of common ground between us all in so many areas of life.

Our job is to help support each-others differences.

You are right where you need to be.

Thank you Anchor for your message here & your wonderful thread.
Does make a lot of sense & i am quite amazed the number of people who are now in the 'feel' of things.
Quite a contrast to a year back when most people were still laughing at the concept itself.

Incidentally the thread you posted was on the same day as my birthday this year :P

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 04:38
I know it is hard to understand one another's situation because of the difference in perspective so I am not gonna try to look at your situation from within your mind but instead let me give a general advice. It is difficult to remain passive in this situation, where everything is changing so rapidly. But you must not forget that there is nothing New to find. We are only rediscovering and remembering our true nature. There will always be people resisting the flow and trying to go against the current. We all have mixed emotions in these strange and wonderful times. Just remember that even the ignorant are following a predisposed plan they have established for themselves; everyone is on their unique individual lanes of the one Cosmic highway. It is up to each individual to decide when to slow down, speed up or come to a stop. <3

Much Love and Light~

You know, i always wonder...
We (by we i talk about those who have realized something is up & are trying to solve the life sized puzzle) are more receptive to the actions/reactions in this stage.

but do the rest (those who have no clue something is changing, those who do not want to believe that something can be up) also have a partake in this cosmic dance?

hmmmm...

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Also deducing further, this also proves that there is some definite energy coming to us, that which is different in ways of intensity, frequency etc etc, one which is different what life and earth has felt up until now

Maybe this will be interesting. It speaks of energy as outside of us flowing to us from the galactic center ... and thus when we become aware of the flow, we can align with it...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33710-HALLOWEEN-s-CONNECTION-TO-PLEIADES&p=344689&viewfull=1#post344689

And here is the site for figuring out sidereal time for aligning to maximum energy. All you have to do is plug in the closest city and verify the date and time:
http://www.jgiesen.de/astro/astroJS/siderealClock/

Woah! That's the second new thing i heard about first here today!

Thanks Sierra, looks very very useful :P

::claps::

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 04:41
Hi LetmeDance- lol...would love to be out on the floor with you with laughter and joy !
Now to the dance of life. Such emotions ..my gratitude to you for sharing your feelings and confusions.
I was not aware of the Saturn return cycles evey 29 years in our life as described by Zillah ( TY Zilla).

At 29 I had a large cancer mass...guess I wanted to stay. At 52 I question why I wanted to stay on earth as so much is emotionally heavy. Very difficult to find others of like mind in person. People who appreciate being joyful, appreciate the beauty here. And, now we are experiencing the lifting of the veil. This alone is exciting yet, heavy all at the same time. Then , we also deal with subtle energy manipulations. To be aware and steadfast constantly really wears on me anymore. Reading these posts helps me to remember and renew my strength in the love of life thinking -regardless of outside influence.
Hang fast , hang strong. We have strength as ONE. Project Avalon definately is where I want to be for some of this renewal and reminders of self. Inside out or outside in.

Hello raregem. Yes Zillah's post was quite fascinating.
And i am glad you are okay. i believe we who are here are meant to be.
we will be where we are needed to be...
;et's see where the road takes us!

Dawn
7th November 2011, 08:43
It isn't just about the 'new age' it is about awakening and the many facets of enlightenment. Like a many faceted jewel, the different sides of enlightenment surprise and delight us all as they come into our awareness. I used to think 'Ah, how grand it will be when I experience myself as ONE with everyone and everything'. At first I experienced this with nature - it was exquisite! Then... I experienced ONENESS with other humans- and, at first it was AWFUL!!!!!

It has taken me many years to unlace myself from the straightjacket of repressed emotions. And of the deeply felt self-hatred that is a strong part of human consciousness. Eventually I found that I fell in love with myself, and as that happened I fell in love with all humans again. That doesn't mean that I hang out with people who love to remain in the energy of hate.... I don't hate them, but I move away from them rapidly.

And as far as being aware of what others are going to say and do... that is one facet of enlightenment. And eventually you will get used to it.

As far as being able to 'see through others'. I think you meant figuratively, but in case you meant literally... then I wish to say to you that this world seemed to all be 'see through' for 9 years of my life. It was like everything was like a mist that I could see through. So don't be surprised if that doesn't come up for you some day.

I'd like to congratulate you on your emotional flow. I work with people to help them unlock those repressed and unconscious emotions. Most people are so bent on remaining unfeeling that they are not aware that they have any unfelt emotions, that is why most of the 'masses' appear wooden. When your emotions begin to flow you will feel them on the way out. It seems we cannot release these emotional frequencies from our cells without feeling them as they leave. It is a REALLY GOOD sign that your emotions are flowing without getting stuck. GREAT!!!! GOOD for you. As these leave you will have more clarity and will be able to remain in your center without having to work at it much.

You may be uncomfortable now but your report is ALL GOOD.... it is all about ENLIGHTENMENT... which is a process rather than a sudden result.

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 14:37
It isn't just about the 'new age' it is about awakening and the many facets of enlightenment. Like a many faceted jewel, the different sides of enlightenment surprise and delight us all as they come into our awareness. I used to think 'Ah, how grand it will be when I experience myself as ONE with everyone and everything'. At first I experienced this with nature - it was exquisite! Then... I experienced ONENESS with other humans- and, at first it was AWFUL!!!!!

It has taken me many years to unlace myself from the straightjacket of repressed emotions. And of the deeply felt self-hatred that is a strong part of human consciousness. Eventually I found that I fell in love with myself, and as that happened I fell in love with all humans again. That doesn't mean that I hang out with people who love to remain in the energy of hate.... I don't hate them, but I move away from them rapidly.

And as far as being aware of what others are going to say and do... that is one facet of enlightenment. And eventually you will get used to it.

As far as being able to 'see through others'. I think you meant figuratively, but in case you meant literally... then I wish to say to you that this world seemed to all be 'see through' for 9 years of my life. It was like everything was like a mist that I could see through. So don't be surprised if that doesn't come up for you some day.

I'd like to congratulate you on your emotional flow. I work with people to help them unlock those repressed and unconscious emotions. Most people are so bent on remaining unfeeling that they are not aware that they have any unfelt emotions, that is why most of the 'masses' appear wooden. When your emotions begin to flow you will feel them on the way out. It seems we cannot release these emotional frequencies from our cells without feeling them as they leave. It is a REALLY GOOD sign that your emotions are flowing without getting stuck. GREAT!!!! GOOD for you. As these leave you will have more clarity and will be able to remain in your center without having to work at it much.

You may be uncomfortable now but your report is ALL GOOD.... it is all about ENLIGHTENMENT... which is a process rather than a sudden result.

Vippassanna is a method of mediation which deals with the release of negative energy from the body.
It is believed that all forms of negative energies & emotions and those released by our actions are collected & knotted from within the body.
The older the energy, deeper in the physical body the energy gathers up.

It is believed that through concentration & meditation we can pull away these negative energies till we have 'repaid' for them.
You can actually feel the energy leaving your body at any part you may concentrate on and eventually by the end, your body feels like a river of energy.
Like water being poured from the top of your head, till it flows it.
You actually do feel to be a part of on... you and the universe around you.

Thank you dawn for your kind words and advice.
Will sure be ready for an awesome ride ahead!

Dawn
7th November 2011, 19:14
Vippassanna is a method of mediation which deals with the release of negative energy from the body.
It is believed that all forms of negative energies & emotions and those released by our actions are collected & knotted from within the body.
The older the energy, deeper in the physical body the energy gathers up.

It is believed that through concentration & meditation we can pull away these negative energies till we have 'repaid' for them.
You can actually feel the energy leaving your body at any part you may concentrate on and eventually by the end, your body feels like a river of energy.

Yes, this is true... and yet, there does not seem to be a free ride where you get to release it all without feeling it. I have done many years of meditation and have had many rivers flow through... and yet, there are still times where one or another emotion is felt intensely for a time. These times seem to be a normal part of life for an awakened, and therefore sensitive being.

letmedanz
7th November 2011, 20:26
True, very true.
I was told that this related to the different intensities of negative energy in the system.
the longer you feel it or the stronger it is & the longer it lasts, it indicates the accumulated effects.

I also remember being advised that these energies are those which have accumulated over various life times.
they are taken off the very spirit/soul...

though i have learnt a couple of forms of meditation & yearn for it, i hardly ever get any time to dedicate even an hour a day :(
very sad indeed

Sidney
7th November 2011, 21:13
I can relate too, although I could use a dose of the euphoria. That part doesn't seem to be in the mix for me. You are right there is something happening. Its a crazy ride.

letmedanz
8th November 2011, 01:31
I can relate too, although I could use a dose of the euphoria. That part doesn't seem to be in the mix for me. You are right there is something happening. Its a crazy ride.

I think this goes to show that though we are so similar in many respects, yet we are so different.

Most of us are feeling something alike but definitely a stark difference remains in all of us.

let us hope in the future golden age we are able to forget and overcome our differences...!

NeverMind
9th November 2011, 16:37
Dear Letmedanz -

I care about your experience - and, I believe, understand it - much more than the following words will express.
But that doesn't even matter.
What I wanted to say to you is simply this:

I have ample reason to believe that "moods", while being prompted by all sorts of influences, are much, much more than just transient feelings and "states of mind", in the usual sense of the expression.
In my experience, they appear to be signposts and actual gates to distinct personae - to different Selves, each of which has their own destiny and their own path.
This may sound schizoid, but it's not. These selves are all integral parts of You, of your potential.
And they can die of inanition and cease - almost - to exist.

The more time you spend in a certain "mood" - in the company of a certain Self of yours - the closer you come to that Self's final destination.

If you add determination to a mood, or you make a mood the habit that you wear every day and in which you dwell, it becomes a command, to which your body - in all its subtle and physical components - responds, accurately and unfailingly.

Choose wisely - with a joyous and pure heart. ;-)

And remember: no miracle, no matter how unfathomable it may seem, is too "big" for this world as it really is -- unless you let regret and fear destroy its growth.

letmedanz
9th November 2011, 17:36
NeverMind,

i completely agree with you,
In fact i have had quite a few sessions of thought trying to understand what is happening & what alternative explanations are possible.

And i have stumbled upon the idea you state quite a few times.
it does make complete sense.

in fact i have noted that when i do a certain few things in 'certain' moods, the output varies.

like you say, it is definitely a part of us that is portrayed and giving us a chance to measure up ourselves :)

Thank you

NeverMind
10th November 2011, 03:39
I was very glad to read that, Letmedanz. :)
And not only for yourself.

I am sure you know this by now, but it bears saying it all the same: everything you do - and by "do" I mean think, envisage, feel - you do for everyone, for the benefit, or to the detriment, of human kind in general - and even beyond. For all Life. Whether you want or intend it, or not.
It all goes to that common reservoir from which it came and from which we all drawing.

My God.... this reads as such fluff, and I really never was a fluff purveyor. :-)
Still, I trust those who know will know.

58andfixed
10th November 2011, 04:32
Nice one NeverMind, and I'd like you to consider an even wider ripple of effect on consciousness, as is made in the documentary "I Am A Fishead."

http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/75418/1/

"WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR WORLD?"

"THIS IS A FILM FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW."

Intro

http://www.fisheadmovie.com/

52s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Coyote

- 58




The more time you spend in a certain "mood" - in the company of a certain Self of yours - the closer you come to that Self's final destination.

Choose wisely - with a joyous and pure heart. ;-)

NeverMind
10th November 2011, 05:04
Thank you very much, 58andfixed.
I will watch it NOW. There is no better time than just before dawn. :-)

P.S. I am a great admirer of Peter Coyote, so I am anticipating a treat. :)

58andfixed
10th November 2011, 06:43
Hi NeverMind:

You're very welcomed.

A surprise for me, very insightful, and a treat it is - indeed.

A wake-up call, without being harsh, and with very professional input.

- 58





Thank you very much, 58andfixed.
I will watch it NOW. There is no better time than just before dawn. :-)

P.S. I am a great admirer of Peter Coyote, so I am anticipating a treat. :)

NeverMind
10th November 2011, 07:51
After having watched it, however, I think it deserves a thread of its own.
Don't you? :)

58andfixed
10th November 2011, 07:59
True. It's a very profound documentary, and brings many perspectives into consideration.

Given that I watch so many and leave myself so little time for promoting vary valid stories - I have short-sheeted this one in this thread.

It deserves a much wider viewing.

I'll have to think over just where it belongs ... among other tasks ... :)

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After having watched it, however, I think it deserves a thread of its own.

Don't you? :)

letmedanz
14th November 2011, 15:02
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watched the videos and was hooked on to it...
very strong & meaningful... but easily comprehensible...

thanks for sharing... :)