UN Lies Created China's One-Child (Infanticide) Policy

[The Arthen]

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Seriously f*cked up. More than ever, deceit has to go.

[mosquito]

Infanticide is the deliberate killing of a living child. I'll think you'll find that (despite what your government wants you to believe) the Chinese authorities DO NOT wantonly murder children, as your ignorant title implies.
I've reported this to the administrator.

Moderator's edit: This film is actually about a policy of present day infanticide. Pretty awful. The title is very accurate.

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[Unified Serenity]

I certainly have not witnessed Chinese infanticide, but I have heard numerous reports that it is quite common for a girl child to be born and left to die because they don't prize girl children. So, yes, whether it's just leaving her to die or taking action to kill her after she is born it's still infanticide if the accounts are true. Consider these two reports:

"According to Zeng et al., "The practice was largely forsaken in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s." (Zeng et al., "Causes and Implications," p. 294.) Coale and Banister likewise acknowledge a "decline of excess female mortality after the establishment of the People's Republic ... assisted by the action of a strong government, which tried to modify this custom as well as other traditional practices that it viewed as harmful." (Coale and Banister, "Five Decades," p. 472.) But the number of "missing" women showed a sharp upward trend in the 1980s, linked by almost all scholars to the "one-child policy" introduced by the Chinese government in 1979 to control spiralling population growth. Couples are penalized by wage-cuts and reduced access to social services when children are born "outside the plan." Johansson and Nygren found that while "sex ratios [were] generally within or fairly near the expected range of 105 to 106 boys per 100 girls for live births within the plan ... they are, in contrast, clearly far above normal for children born outside the plan, even as high as 115 to 118 for 1984-87. That the phenomenon of missing girls in China in the 1980s is related to the government's population policy is thus conclusively shown." (Sten Johansson and Ola Nygren, "The Missing Girls of China: A New Demographic Account," Population and Development Review, 17: 1 [March 1991], pp. 40-41."http://www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html


China's unwanted girls
"By Adam Brookes in Beijing

On the garbage dumps that surround Beijing, scavengers from time to time will find a newborn baby girl amid the stinking refuge.
Sometimes she is still alive. Chen Rong makes her living from scavenging garbage, and over the years she has found five little girls on the tips.

She brought them all home to her one-room brick shack and she and her husband try to give them a chance.
In China, couples are permitted one, at most two, children. Too frequently a girl is a disappointment.

Thrown away
Every year, say researchers, perhaps a million girl foetuses are aborted and tens of thousands of girl babies are abandoned.

"One baby died before we even got her home," says Mrs Chen. "Another garbage scavenger had taken her clothes and then left her to die.
"I was the only one who would pick her up. I couldn't bear to see her die.
"Parents shouldn't throw away their children. This shouldn't be happening."

Community pressure

But Chinese society is throwing away its little girls at an astounding rate. For every 100 girls registered at birth, there are now 118 little boys - in other words, nearly one seventh of Chinese girl babies are going missing. "Some of those girls are alive, they are just not registered," says Professor Zhai Zhenwu, of Beijing's People's University. "Some are abandoned, but many are aborted when the parents find out the foetus is a girl.

"This is a huge problem for China. We already have about 20 million boys who will never be able to marry because there aren't enough women.
"That number rises by 1.5 million every year. "It will bring crime and prostitution. It will destabilise China."
Jhiu Hongying is 19 and pregnant. The pressure on her to produce a boy is huge. Family and community demand it. A boy will bring status. He will continue the family line.
"Boys are the best, because they can work," says the girl's mother, Zhang Hongying. "They're stronger.

"If my daughter has a son, everyone will celebrate.
"All the neighbours want her child to be a boy."

At a Beijing temple, women come to pray that the foetus in their womb is that of a boy. Chinese tradition despises the girl child. This powerful cultural preference for sons is heightened by the one-child policy. The result - millions of nameless baby girls in China are simply disappearing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1506469.stm

[Maia Gabrial]

When there aren't very many females left on the planet, which might be the way we're headed now; my hope is that they'll finally start being cherished....

All life should be cherished....

[Corncrake]

This is a depressingly awful story. I don't want to get into the ethics of it here but for me there is a clear difference between abortion and what has been described in this lecture. I have Chinese friends who have lived in the UK for some years now and although they are unwilling to talk about this in much detail they clearly knew what was going on. There was a very moving documentary called the Dying Rooms which is on You Tube if you can bear to watch it - it is harrowing. You can read a description here: The Dying Rooms (1995 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[WhiteFeather]

The US Government uses Vaccines against the people. Without Discrimination, Male/Female,,,,, White/Red/Black/Yellow/Green-For The Aliens/ET's

[Seikou-Kishi]

A one child policy isn't infanticide until the 'parents' decide they'd rather throw their lucky dip back and have a second try. I've never heard of them taking twins and telling them to pick. It's limiting to be restricted to one child per couple, but a one child maximum is the only way of facilitating population decline without "post-birth" interventions to which we rightly object.

[mosquito]

Thanks for the feedback, especially U.S. that's some good reaearch.

It's certainly true that there are more male than female births, but that doesn't necesarily mean female babies are being murdered ! It's more likely to be due to selective abortion, which I gather from people I know who've worked in the health care system here does go on.

It's important for people to understand though that this is not due to goverment policy but due to entrenched family beliefs. One of the communist party's objectives for the revolution was to improve womens' stutus in Chinese society, and it has achieved a degree of success. However, family "values" are slow to change. It annoys me to continually read about the "tyranny" of the Chinese government, (but of course, this is the message they want to convey, and people want to hear) when in fact the real tyranny lies within the family. An example:

One of the leading Generals of the revolution was Peng DeHuai, he had a less than wonderful childhood, and lived in extreme poverty, as did most people pre-revolution. When he was 10 years old, he was rude to a teacher. A family meeting was convened, at which he was sentenced to death by his grandmother. His uncle stepped in however and saved him, agreeing to adopt him and look after him. The grandmothyer grudgingly allowed this to happen, but insisted that his shirt, his only garment, should be given back to her. Anyone who is any doubt that the Chinese revolution needed to happen should try reading the book "Red Star Over China" by Edgar Snow, an American who lived with the revolutionaries and witnessed a lot of the revolution first hand. If you want to know more about the tyrannical family, you could read "Tiger Mother", sorry I don't know the author, but I believe she's a Chinese woman who moved to the USA.

Let's not forget that prejudice against girls is by no means limited to the Chinese !! What grieves me about this (apart from the fact I adore girls, 4 daughters would be my idea of heaven) is that it hasn't occured to anyone that a society with substantially more males than females is essentially doomed, what are all those wifeless men going to do ? The only way to bring about balance would be through war.

China's one child policy is also widely misunderstood, but then again people want to hear that it's tyrannical and brutal. I know quite a lot of young people who have siblings, and I regularly see twins in the streets. If you belong to one of the minority groups, there is no restriction on the number of children you have. I believe it is quite rigidly enforced for government employees though, and the financial penalties can be quite heavy. Americans are already complaining about there being too many Chinese people, imagine how they'd whinge if the population were to double.

Before coming to China I lived in Peru, where people breed with absolutely no concern for their children's welfare. My girlfriend at the time had more than 100 cousins, she didn't know them all ! The streets were full of children who'd just been dumped by their parents to fend for themselves. The vast majority of people lived in poverty and had no way of feeding and clothing their families, but it didn't stop them breeding. I'm not saying any one system is better than the other, I'm simply telling you my observations. As much as I dislike enforced birth control, I find the spectacle of little children dressed in rags and begging for food somewhat more disturbing.

[Corncrake]

This is a highly emotive topic. However, just to add to your post Mariposafe <<My girlfriend at the time had more than 100 cousins>> my friend's husband comes from an Irish Catholic family and has 100 cousins. He is in his early 50's so things may have changed now. Also, regarding infanticide I have two friends who are paediatric nurses and have told me of cases where babies who have been born severely malformed are left to die - in London hospitals. I understand you are trying to provide some balance to the video lecture but do you actually believe from your experience that the infanticide is untrue? I sincerely hope so. What sickened me most was the murder of the babies born full term or during a late termination.

[mosquito]

Corncrake - I really don't know, I can't watch the video as youtube has been blocked (I'll never understand why !)
It would be naiive of me or anyone else to think that infanticide never happens, I'm saying that if it does, it's certainly not a countrywide, government policy.

2 years ago, my colleagues (Chinese/Korean) wife was pregnant, and during one of her examinations was told by the doctor that the foetus was dead and would need to be aborted. She refused to believe this and decided to have a secong opinion. Sure enough, doctor no. 2 found no problems, and she eventually gace birth to a healthy boy. Now this is where it gets interesting, a few months later, I was talking to a new colleague, he was rather anxious because his Chinese wife was having an abortion that day, she'd been told by the doctor that he foetus was dead. It was too late to advise him to seek opinion, unfortunately. 2 pieces of data do not a conspiracy make, but I found it highly suspicious that within a few months, 2 women with foreign husbands had received the same false diagnosis.

[ajyana]

facebook, youtube, twitter, yahoo hong kong(home page only) and almost all kinds of newsgroups, forums in Hongkong & Taiwan are banned by communist china up to this moment! they simply don't allow freedom of speech. they also banned the VPN services, that's what we called the (im)famous Great Firewall of China!

[mosquito]

....... which, though true (except it IS possible to use VPNs here), has nothing whatsoever to do with the one child policy !

[ajyana]

regarding the one child policy, heard too much back from the 70s, many of our relatives and friends facing this, and that's no hearsay at all. to us, its history.

if you're a "westerner", you have no idea, i mean no idea at all a boy/male meant to the chinese families, without a male offspring simply means end of their bloodlines.

[ajyana]

i'm using VPN express when i travel there, its an app of iphone, stable and user friendly, hope this can use longer, switched to this service provide last month, before that, BestFreeVPN, GreenVPN, VPNPOP etc are all inaccessible now.

http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/banned-vpn-websites-status-in-china-vpn-and-gmail