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christian
8th November 2011, 22:30
The Iranian leadership claims, the recent IAEA report (http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/images/iaeairan.pdf) is unbalanced and politically motivated. The report states, that Iran has been working on the developement of an atomic bomb since 2003. According to a Wikileaks cable (http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09UNVIEVIENNA478), the IAEA chief Amano is virtually in bed with the cabal, that hijacked the US.

In a recent article on presstv.ir (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209074.html), it says:



In an atmosphere of cringing obedience to Washington, Mr. Amano cannot choose but to play into the hands of the US officials who look over his shoulders and observe with diligence what he puts to paper in the report he writes about Iran.

Washington resorts to any means of coercion, duress, abduction and fabrication to push ahead with its agenda of accusing the Islamic republic of pursuing a clandestine nuclear weapons program and striking fear into the heart of the world that Iran is on the course of producing nuclear weapons and that the world is on the brink of ruination.

There is also a reference in the article to a laptop of an alleged Iranian scientist acquired in 2004, that is often presented as proof among war-mongerers:



Nonproliferation expert Jeffrey Lewis of the New America Foundation says the biggest loophole in the claim is the crude manner in which the laptop documents were constructed: “What led many of us to have serious doubts about it was how utterly unconnected from reality some of the information seemed. Some of the reports indicated that some of the view graphs were done in PowerPoint, which suggested to me that the program was not terribly sophisticated.” [Inter Press Service, 12/9/2006; New York Times, 12/4/2007]

Another fault which shoots another hole in the claim is that the documents were written in English, a language barely used in official Iranian documents let alone in documents of such paramount sensitivity.

Washington produces some invisible documents from an old laptop obtained from an imaginary person; the invisible information is then metamorphosed into a series of serious threats for global security and waters the roots of animosity towards and fear for the Islamic Republic.

christian
9th November 2011, 19:23
"Chinese experts doubt the validity of the report (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209227.html), pointing out that it is based on information funneled to the IAEA by western intelligence agencies." - i.e. possibly fabricated

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Red Skywalker
9th November 2011, 19:44
Wherefore is their reactor also used? See HERE (http://www.keshefoundation.com/nl/introduction-nl) why. Then you'll understand that it's again about the secret sciences. Thanks to mister Mehran Tavakoli KESHE.

Calz
9th November 2011, 19:48
Hard to keep up with the nuggetry ... here is a taste:



The Mysterious "Laptop Documents". Using Fake Intelligence to Justify a Pre-emptive Nuclear War on Iran

by Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, November 24, 2010

The UN Security Council on June 9 2010 adopted the imposition of a fourth round of sweeping sanctions against The Islamic Republic of Iran. UNSC Resolution 1929 includes an expanded arms embargo as well as "tougher financial controls":

“[Resolution 1929 (June 9, 2010)] Decides that all States shall prevent the direct or indirect supply, sale or transfer to Iran, from or through their territories or by their nationals or individuals subject to their jurisdiction, or using their flag vessels or aircraft, and whether or not originating in their territories, of any battle tanks, armoured combat vehicles, large calibre artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles or missile systems .... , decides further that all States shall prevent the provision to Iran by their nationals or from or through their territories of technical training, financial resources or services, advice, other services or assistance related to the supply, sale, transfer, provision, manufacture, maintenance or use of such arms and related materiel, and, in this context, calls upon all States to exercise vigilance and restraint over the supply, sale, transfer, provision, manufacture and use of all other arms and related materiel;" (Security Council Imposes Additional Sanctions on Iran, Voting 12 in Favour to 2 Against, with 1 Abstention, Includes complete text of UNSC Resolution 1929, UN News, June 9, 2010, emphasis added, )

Both the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China caved in to US pressures and voted in favor of UNSC Resolution 1929. In November, following a decree issed by president Dmitry Medvedev, Moscow announced the cancellation of its military cooperation agreement with Iran pertaining to the S300 air defense system.

Without Russian military aid, Iran is a "sitting duck". Its air defence system depends on continued Russian military cooperation.

These developments strike at the very heart of the structure of military alliances. They prevent Russia and China to sell both strategic and conventional weapons and military technology to their de facto ally: Iran. In fact, that was one of major objectives of Resolution 1929, which Washington is intent upon enforcing.

Fake Intelligence

UNSC Resolution 1929 is based on a fundamental falsehood. It upholds the notion that Iran is an upcoming nuclear power and a threat to global security. It also provides a green light to the US-NATO-Israel military alliance to threaten Iran with a pre-emptive punitive nuclear attack, using the UN Security Council as rubber stamp.

The US stance in the UN Security Council, has in part based on alleged intelligence documents which provide "evidence" of Iran's nuclear weapons program.

In November 2005, the New York Times published a report by William J. Broad and David E. Sanger entitled "Relying on Computer, U.S. Seeks to Prove Iran's Nuclear Aims". Washington's allegations, reported in the NYT hinged upon documents "obtained from a stolen Iranian computer by an unknown source and given to US intelligence in 2004". (See Gareth Porter, Exclusive Report: Evidence of Iran Nuclear Weapons Program May Be Fraudulent, Global Research, November 18, 2010, emphasis added).

These documents included "a series of drawings of a missile re-entry vehicle" which allegedly could accommodate an Iranian produced nuclear weapon.

"In mid-July, senior American intelligence officials called the leaders of the international atomic inspection agency to the top of a skyscraper overlooking the Danube in Vienna and unveiled the contents of what they said was a stolen Iranian laptop computer.

The Americans flashed on a screen and spread over a conference table selections from more than a thousand pages of Iranian computer simulations and accounts of experiments, saying they showed a long effort to design a nuclear warhead, according to a half-dozen European and American participants in the meeting.

The documents, the Americans acknowledged from the start, do not prove that Iran has an atomic bomb. They presented them as the strongest evidence yet that, despite Iran's insistence that its nuclear program is peaceful, the country is trying to develop a compact warhead to fit atop its Shahab missile, which can reach Israel and other countries in the Middle East."(William J. Broad and David E. Sanger Relying on Computer, U.S. Seeks to Prove Iran's Nuclear Aims - New York Times, November 13, 2005)

These "secret documents" were subsequently submitted by the US State Department to the International Atomic Energy Agency IAEA, with a view to demonstrating that Iran was developing a nuclear weapons program.

While their authenticity has been questioned on several occasions, a recent article by investigative reporter Gareth Porter confirms unequivocally that the mysterious laptop documents are fake. The drawings contained in the documents do not pertain to the Shahab missile but to an obsolete North Korean missile system which was decommissioned by Iran in the mid-1990s.

How stupid! The drawings presented by US State Department officials pertained to the "Wrong Missile Warhead":

In July 2005, ... Robert Joseph, US undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, made a formal presentation on the purported Iranian nuclear weapons program documents to the agency's leading officials in Vienna. Joseph flashed excerpts from the documents on the screen, giving special attention to the series of technical drawings or "schematics" showing 18 different ways of fitting an unidentified payload into the re-entry vehicle or "warhead" of Iran's medium-range ballistic missile, the Shahab-3.

When IAEA analysts were allowed to study the documents, however, they discovered that those schematics were based on a re-entry vehicle that the analysts knew had already been abandoned by the Iranian military in favor of a new, improved design. The warhead shown in the schematics had the familiar "dunce cap" shape of the original North Korean No Dong missile, which Iran had acquired in the mid-1990s. ...

The laptop documents had depicted the wrong re-entry vehicle being redesigned. ... (Gareth Porter, op cit )

Who was behind the production of fake intelligence? Gareth Porter's suggests that Israel's Mossad has been a source of fake intelligence regarding Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program:

The origin of the laptop documents may never be proven conclusively, but the accumulated evidence points to Israel as the source. As early as 1995, the head of the Israel Defense Forces' military intelligence research and assessment division, Yaakov Amidror, tried unsuccessfully to persuade his American counterparts that Iran was planning to "go nuclear." By 2003-2004, Mossad's reporting on the Iranian nuclear program was viewed by high-ranking CIA officials as an effort to pressure the Bush administration into considering military action against Iran's nuclear sites, according to Israeli sources cited by a pro-Israeli news service." (Ibid)

Lies and Fabrications to Justify a Military Agenda

The laptop documents were essential to sustaining America's position in the UN Security Council.

We are dealing with a clear case of fake intelligence comparable to that presented by Colin Powell in February 2003 on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction. The fake intelligence presented to the UN Security Council was used as a justification for the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

"The evidence, or lack thereof, speaks for itself. In the months leading up to the war in Iraq, the Bush administration produced hundreds of pages of intelligence for members of Congress and for the United Nations that showed how Iraq’s President Saddam Hussein possessed tons of chemical and biological weapons and was actively pursuing a nuclear weapons program.

The intelligence information, gathered by the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency, a Department of Defense agency that gathers foreign military intelligence for the Pentagon, was used by the Bush administration to convince the public that Iraq posed a threat to the world." (See Jason Leopold, Powell Denies Intelligence Failure In Buildup To War, But Evidence Doesn’t Hold Up, Global Research, 10 June 2003)

The US has once again used fake intelligence to build a justification to wage war.

The position of the US in the UN Security Council falls flat. The important question is whether Russia and China will revise their stance in the United Nations Security Council pertaining to the Iran's sanctions regime?

Will the US antiwar movement confront Washington's plans to wage a pre-emptive nuclear war against Iran based on fake intelligence?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22085

christian
9th November 2011, 19:58
Wherefore is their reactor also used? See HERE (http://www.keshefoundation.com/nl/introduction-nl) why. Then you'll understand that it's again about the secret sciences. Thanks to mister Mehran Tavakoli KESHE.

An Iranian nuclear physicist, whose foundation is allegedly about solving:


Global warming / CO2-problem
The energy shortness
Water problems
Food problems

The global warming thing is a scam and the rest sounds reasonable, I don't see what you're pointing at.

Red Skywalker
9th November 2011, 21:14
Wherefore is their reactor also used? See HERE (http://www.keshefoundation.com/nl/introduction-nl) why. Then you'll understand that it's again about the secret sciences. Thanks to mister Mehran Tavakoli KESHE.

An Iranian nuclear physicist, whose foundation is allegedly about solving:


Global warming / CO2-problem
The energy shortness
Water problems
Food problems

The global warming thing is a scam and the rest sounds reasonable, I don't see what you're pointing at.

The point is that the research of mister Keshe is also done in Iran. Keshe brought it there. For that research, which by the way is imo still rather primitive, they needed that reactor. They have now their own ufo- technology based space-vehicle and also free- energy devices. These will be for sale next year. Demos for the public are already available (Elektor live). The spaceship however cannot be demonstrated due to national security issues of the hosting country for the demo. The space-vehicle flies in the atmosphere with a speed between 30 and 40 Mach. If they go faster, they cannot keep it in the atmosphere. Also when they tried it near light-speed, the occupants get cancer. So, there must be still done a lot of research. But they do not hold this technology back and give it to the public.

christian
9th November 2011, 21:23
They have now their own ufo- technology based space-vehicle and also free- energy devices.


I'm not saying, that you don't know, what you're talking about - but I don't know, what you're talking about. Still don't know... Cannot find anything about it on the Keshe site and nothing when searching for Elektor live that relates to UFOs or free energy devices.

Red Skywalker
9th November 2011, 21:58
http://www.keshefoundation.com/nl/component/jevents/icalrepeat.detail/2011/11/26/3/-/keshe-presentation-on-elektorlive-2011 Only in Dutch.

America and some other countries, possess for 50 or more years the technology to travel through space in vehicles driven by the same principles as ufo's have. Maybe you should checkout the TRB3b.

Now Iran is working on their own spaceship based on anti-gravity principles. But they also found more applications. There is also a hovering car; talks with car manufactures are underway. The problem with this 'car' is that governments demanding a mechanical breakingsystem. But that is a problem with a flying car.
Another application is medical, injuries can be healed much faster.
If I buy next year my 3 to 4 KW free energy device, my name will be noted by the government because I will live of the grid. Thus they miss taxes, so I have to pay tax for the use of my free-energy device...

How do I know all this? Because in my country this information is given into the public domain. If you want, courses are given on a Belgium university (Leuven, I thought) from april next year. But you have to be a university level cosmologist, physicist or ICT.

On the other hand, I am still skeptic of course, but it all sounds very serious over here.

christian
9th November 2011, 22:09
Now I get your point, very interesting angle, I have not heard about that anywhere else before.



If I buy next year my 3 to 4 KW free energy device, my name will be noted by the government because I will live of the grid. Thus they miss taxes, so I have to pay tax for the use of my free-energy device...

How do I know all this? Because in my country this information is given into the public domain. If you want, courses are given on a Belgium university (Leuven, I thought) from april next year. But you have to be a university level cosmologist, physicist or ICT.

On the other hand, I am still skeptic of course, but it all sounds very serious over here.

This is quite a story, please share updates on the forum!

Red Skywalker
9th November 2011, 22:30
I will, there is a lot going on behind the scenes!

I have studied the principles from his book "The origin of the universe" ISBN 978-94-6087-00-2 by Stichting The Keshe Foundation.
It is still a materialistic scientific view, but they are closing in.
That's the purpose of the reactor (which is made of plastic, they say): research into something new.
Or old, very old.

There are many obstacles to be taken to slowly convert the masses and our present social, economic and political systems for the upcoming technologies.
SO, who knows what all will happen in 2012?

Keep educating yourself and try helping others, but stay also skeptic and down to earth. .. for the moment then ;)

Red Skywalker

(when I asked mister Keshe how I could help, he told me exactly what I am doing now: just spread the word.)

christian
10th November 2011, 10:47
The inglorious Concil on Foreign Relations put out a press release accompanied by a video in support of the IAEA report and calls for sanctions on Iran.
The good thing about this clip is, that 75% of the ratings are negative and most of the comments expose the liars and war mongerers. This is especially significant, since there have been less than 1000 views so far on this clip and often times the first ratings and comments on controversial videos come from bots or agents.

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GlassSteagallfan
11th November 2011, 03:06
Here's the LaRouche video version of the results of the IAEA report: 6:10 minutes

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20269

Arc
11th November 2011, 04:19
Now listen folks - there is a new movement in the US for us to stop being the world Bullies. I am a former veteran. I am a patriot of this country. I am disgusted by the foreign policy of my government. I, and the folks here, also have little control over it, so don't judge the good people here. We have been stealthily high-jacked as a nation in our politics and finance. Well, like all the other countries too now, I suppose.

Anyway, please, folks, listen to this message from Ron Paul. I know some liberal folks will immediately tune out at this name. But, listen to WHY he IS Different! Listen to why he has independent mass appeal.

Did he just say... to respect Iran?? To be friendly with Iran?? and not bomb them?? Yes, even remove the current sanctions?? Yes - He Did!

And, I am with him. It's time for mutual respect to other nations in favor of peace. You folks who don't know about Ron should take notice that he is one of the good guys - not another war-monger conservative.

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