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jackovesk
10th November 2011, 03:45
November 9th, 2011

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/files/2011/11/zuckerberg-460x272.gif
Mark Zuckerberg: does he want our entire lives to be posted online?

I’m trying to cut down on Facebook. But it’s impossible. First, I rely on Facebook for my entire social life. Second, I visit the website up to 40 times a day, checking it in the same compulsive way I used to smoke. Third, I can’t work out how to leave. Facebook’s settings are beyond baffling. This weekend I tried to shut down my wall, and despite an hour of shouting and pleading, got absolutely nowhere.

A wall is the place on your Facebook profile that records everything you have done. Things like the new friends you have made, the events you have gone to and the photos you have been tagged in. These days it also records which articles you have read and what music you are listening to. It is a log book for your digital life.

I have never really been comfortable with the idea – in the same way that I have never really been comfortable with photocopying my diary and handing it out to strangers on the tube. Recently the wall got upgraded to a “timeline”, where Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg hopes we will share all the most important moments from our lives.

I say hope, but it’s nothing of the sort. It’s not a naïve dream, nor a megalomaniacal ambition. For anyone in their late teens and early twenties – anyone who has been on Facebook from the beginning – it’s a fact. That generation are Facebook’s test sample, the guinea pigs. For the last five or so years we have lived on the website, just as Zuckerberg describes.

This summer my friend’s wedding photos and baby pictures were uploaded onto Facebook. The summers before that it was university graduation, birthdays and school leaving ceremonies. And it’s not just the photographs: pretty much every party, date and even cinema trip has been organised through the site. Not to mention all the friendships and relationships – and all the conversations that they were built from – recorded on Facebook forever.

Facebook even plays a role in death now. Not only do people organise funerals via the website. Back in 2006 a contemporary at school used Facebook to announce that his mother had passed away. The next year someone I knew lost their life, and their profile became a place for friends to hold a sort of memorial service.

This is the most worrying thing about Facebook: it has become a host for our memories. Of course young people are more and more lazy about remembering names or asking for phone numbers – Facebook can do it for them. But we have become lazy about our most precious memories as well. Many of our formative experiences now only exist in digital form. These are the memories that make up our personality, the story out of which we create an identity. But we have subcontracted those memories to a machine. Facebook has taken responsibility for our subconscious. In a secular age, it has stolen our souls.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/guystagg/100057718/facebook-has-stolen-my-soul/

PS -

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1292148413536&id=223012f96f95e35075d8481d605551eb&url=http%3a%2f%2fi.zdnet.com%2fblogs%2ffacebook_logo.png u#k FACEBOOK..!

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Syl
10th November 2011, 04:06
I agree its scary,.. if they ever plan a second holocaust or anything of such nature, they have a mighty fine database!! and even if that would not be the case,.. they still have a mighty fine database for commercial, marketing purposes..

@PS, yes its anoying people profiling themselfs,.. either concious or onconcious differently from reality, for whatever insecurity whatsoever..
Well i admit i got fb aswell, i dont use my real name though, and i've been thinking about getting of fb, but like you said,.. alot of the people i know use it aswell, and its easy to go with the flow..
guess i still have to make up my mind. luckily my real friends dont really use it.

THIRDEYE
10th November 2011, 04:27
statics say homeland security and fema the nsa and the cia record all daily movements of face book....this is a fact..my friends ask me why i dont start a facebook account it is for the reasons i just mentioned....also there are some constitutional issues that come into play here also the 1st and 4th ammendments do not apply here...these are the most inportant ammendments we have just as the right to the air that we breathe...with light love and abundance too all....thirdeye.....

Carmody
10th November 2011, 04:41
Facebook: never been there.

And never will.

markoid
10th November 2011, 05:01
I am not that social so I never saw the point of it. Some folks sure get addicted to it though... in a very creepy way imo.

astrid
10th November 2011, 05:04
It's not Mark Zuckerberg
it's whoever is pulling his strings.

modwiz
10th November 2011, 05:08
Facebook: never been there.

And never will.

Ditto.

Ditto.

cheez_2806
10th November 2011, 06:01
yeh can't agree more man~ it is freaky the frequency people use it....

for example, I was in one of the uni computer labs working on a document then my friend wanted to come so when she arrived I stood up and put up my hand to let her see where I am~

as I stood up I have a clear view of all the computer in front of me - they were all looking at the facebook!!! I was @o@...and thinking is this serious....then my friend sat down then he started to check his facebook first thing...
Cheezus!!

NeverMind
10th November 2011, 06:01
In a secular age, it has stolen our souls.

This is not to be petty about semantics (although its importance cannot be overemphasised), but the reality is, it has "stolen" nothing: people are handing in their "souls" willingly and merrily. And THAT is the problem, and it transcends FB use by far.

Still, don't say it is impossible to extricate yourself - whoever you may be - from it.
I cannot help anyone with the technicalities - I have never had a FB account, and have resisted my friends' and acquaintances' attempts to get me to join (and this comes from an anti-Luddite :)) - but any addiction can be overcome. The stronger it is, the more important it is to overcome it.

jorr lundstrom
10th November 2011, 06:09
Wot facebox?

jackovesk
10th November 2011, 06:20
Facebook: never been there.

And never will.

Had to 'Log back In' to say 'Same Here'..!

jackovesk
10th November 2011, 06:23
yeh can't agree more man~ it is freaky the frequency people use it....

for example, I was in one of the uni computer labs working on a document then my friend wanted to come so when she arrived I stood up and put up my hand to let her see where I am~

as I stood up I have a clear view of all the computer in front of me - they were all looking at the facebook!!! I was @o@...and thinking is this serious....then my friend sat down then he started to check his facebook first thing...
Cheezus!!

That is 'Bloody Scary', perhaps you could send this link to them...

Carolin
10th November 2011, 07:05
Oh Jackovesk facebook has stolen my soul too!!!

What about the people who think they can get away with being rude just because they are on facebook instead of face to face. So juvenile to think they can say whatever they want on their wall, unfriend or block someone and it won't be held against them. We call it facebook courage, because they certainly don't have it in the real world.

I love facebook for business, although they changed the group format and I had to make a new business page. It's like a DIY website that doesn't cost you anything and you can inform your customers without harassing them. I advertise on facebook before print, tv or radio. You can target your market and pay per click.

When I'm online I have my facebook account open, my chat is always offline, it lets me control who and when I talk to people. I definitely spend more time actively looking at things on Project Avalon though and we're probably monitored here too. Can we go online these days and still remain anonymous?

sepia
10th November 2011, 07:13
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Well - I'm shocked about the degree people are addicted to facebook...

...but certainly not about the fact that everything is recorded and cannot be deleted.

This is a perfect mirror of what is happening anyway: What ever we think, visualize, plan, act out, manifest in all times... it's there -
- call it 'akashic records' if you like.

Each of us who is perceptive enough can read it. It's all there on the different frequency-levels, perfectly sorted according to the vibrational density.

Most people are not aware of this - and now they get the teaching through facebook. - So they all have a chance to become aware.

I have a facebook account and carefully decide what I publish there...
The same I do in my life anyway.

transiten
10th November 2011, 07:29
You know one can easily be ana addict to fora like Avalon also...i don't have time to be on both facebook and Avalon, Divinecosmos, Bring4th:juggle:

...and I'm fortunate being old enough to not have been captured on many digital photos...:cool:

161803398
10th November 2011, 07:52
I didn't have a facebook until this year because I don't like the CIA connection. However, I have communicated for years with people whose emails, for various reasons, are monitored by CSIS - in fact, one Serbian friend, used to write letters to CSIS, directed to my email address because he said they read all his emails anyway so it didn't matter where he sent it. I tend to be very outspoken anyway so frankly, I don't give a damn what they read.

Lord Sidious
10th November 2011, 08:05
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Well - I'm shocked about the degree people are addicted to facebook...

...but certainly not about the fact that everything is recorded and cannot be deleted.

This is a perfect mirror of what is happening anyway: What ever we think, visualize, plan, act out, manifest in all times... it's there -
- call it 'akashic records' if you like.

Each of us who is perceptive enough can read it. It's all there on the different frequency-levels, perfectly sorted according to the vibrational density.

Most people are not aware of this - and now they get the teaching through facebook. - So they all have a chance to become aware.

I have a facebook account and carefully decide what I publish there...
The same I do in my life anyway.

Good to see you back Ruth, Herzlich wilkommen.

oceanz
10th November 2011, 10:13
There was an online article at www.stuff.co.nz about some guy in Europe who requested all information in regards to his facebook account. He got a CD with thousands of pages of stuff he had deleted and other stuff as well (marketing etc) - so long after you have deleted stuff obviously facebook doesn't.

learninglight
10th November 2011, 14:21
Hi all

I have a FB account had it a few years now...a way of keeping in contact with family who are not close but love and care about
I post anything i find that will open their minds, but as yet they seem not to be bothered, but 1 day they just might take a look and all the info is there for them, i like having a game of poker too if i can manage to stay on and not get booted!
I don't really give a toss what they know about me, got nothing to hide, and if they see me as a threat they are very sad indeed lol

much love

Sidney
10th November 2011, 14:28
I have a FB account, but rarely go there. My wall gets clogged up with everyone elses crap, and the thing is really, my friends post stuff on my wall like, "hey, why are you never here??" and I say, why don't you just call me if you want to talk. I am a very private person, and I don't want my life recorded for all the world to see, analyze and pick apart.

eric charles
10th November 2011, 21:02
Exactly , Zuckerberg is just a CEO , look at the shareholders , the Chairman , the ceo always gets told what to do , contrary to popular belief

161803398
10th November 2011, 21:16
i never put anything about my life on fb. That would be a mistake because people have access to it. So I don't go on there saying something about my personal life. I post things of interest...who cares what I ate for lunch. But I do say things like: the seal hunters are a bunch of pedophiles.. I do that more often after I learned the Canadian government has a company monitoring conversations about the seal hunt.

Simonm
10th November 2011, 22:03
I use facebook, check it daily. However, I use it to keep in touch with friends who live far away from me and we have little actual contact. I am aware of the authorities checking it and keeping track of movement, so Im not bothered. I keep no real private details on there, even my dob is wrong ;) The powers that be are clever enough to glean information about me via other avenues, hence my apathy towards fb. Fb is a fantastic tool for contact, it's just that so many are so gullible to it's powers as a data gathering tool they end up giving away so much of their life.

After all, I have had some brilliant information from various sources that has hastened my awakening in recent months. Treat it for what it is. A tool for contact and information sharing, just be very careful of what you might be sharing about yourself.

Carmody
10th November 2011, 22:28
Exactly , Zuckerberg is just a CEO , look at the shareholders , the Chairman , the ceo always gets told what to do , contrary to popular belief

Close.

Among the group at the top, among those members...look for the Harvard graduate, with the sports team ownership.

That is a very strong indicator of who's running that particular show. Basically, one cannot exist at that level, without one faction or another in the given camp, either driving or 'advising'.

Steve Job's death at 56, to me, as a paranoid but real possibility.... may be down that particular road, as reasons go. He may not have done .....exactly as he was told. Repeatedly. Which may have led to 'problems' with his health. Cancer is easy to deliver, impossible to trace.

See wade Frazier's website on what happened to Steven Greer's disclosure group. Every one of them dead, of various cancers, within approximately one year of their disclosure project. Greer is the only survivor.

The way they do it is they can get away with it.... as long as 'questions in potential truth' exist ....as who would believe the truth of it, if it was real? The game is always played that way. Plausible deniability.

WhiteFeather
11th November 2011, 00:53
Life is a ride you can get off anytime you want.

DouglasDanger
11th November 2011, 01:05
I have a facebook account, I try as hard as i can to make sure they know all the usless drivel they can know about me, it waistes thier resorces, waists thier time, eventually I hope I am one of the ignored people who isn't monitored because i am 99.9 times out of 100 going to post uslessinformation that they have to read .... use thier tool against them, tell tall tales, white lies, spin thier information gathing opperation into a drama love fest ..its amazing how many people unsubscribe from your daily posts if its just filled with I love you sweety!, No i love you more sweety!, No I love you more sweety!... muahahahahaha!....

muxfolder
11th November 2011, 01:13
I'm not that paranoid about Facebook. It's open all the time in my browser just as is Project Avalon and many other pages. And if those fracking intelligence agencies want to know what I'm doing online, they will know it anyway. There's nothing you can do about it except to stay offline, not sure anymore if that helps either. Just use your common sense and think about what you wanna give about yourself to others and what not. That's how I've done it anyways.;)

161803398
11th November 2011, 02:40
well my opinion is that as long as people are paranoid or fearful or whatever of saying what they think to those assholes in government or to anyone; the longer we are going to be in mess.

Daughter of Time
11th November 2011, 03:02
Facebook is useful if one wants to get in touch with someone whose contact information one doesn't have anymore, provided that they are on Facebook. The site can only accumulate as much information as one gives out. If one is careful not to let private and personal information out, then i don't think there's much to be concerned about. However, most of the time, Facebook is a waste of time. I know too many people who are totally addicted to it and I don't quite understand that.

Arc
11th November 2011, 03:13
Facebook: never been there.

And never will.

Ditto.

Ditto.

Agree. I will not become part of Facebook, Twitter (c'mon, I mean it's named for, well, "twits" right??), and of those social media. How do you create a surveillance state??

Well, sure, build traffic cameras (oh, it's for your safety), street cameras (for your safety), backdoor software to activate your cell phone and computer mics (you are bugged by Feds everywhere with these devices), oh yes and PC cams(for your children's safety), then there are the new video consoles and games that spy on you in your living room with integrated cameras while you think you are playing Wii (clever, Big Brother - so the game can track our dancing), oh yes and the new vehicle safety with "OnStar" in your new cars that monitors your location by GPS and mic (for your safety, of course, not to listen to your conversations.. erm no..) and can even shut off your car remotely to prevent theft (escape?). And don't let me get started on new chip technologies.

Oh yes, and coming back full circle, how do you get folks to agree to all this??? Because it is either for their safety, for their entertainment, or because it is trendy. How do you get folks to use/surrender their Free Will to comply with this?? You deceive them, of course, into adopting this crap.

They will Tweet you every place they go, for every activity they do, for every thought they think, for every purchase, decision, mistake, action, feeling.... OMG. They tricked humanity into another means of self spying and imprisonment.

Guess what folks? When they try to implant the dreaded 'chip' in us that we all talk about in the truth and freedom circles.... well, it will be voluntarily accepted by the Sheeple - in fact, they will buy it! in fact, they will desire it!!.. in fact, they will be trendy if they have it!!!

I unleash the future design - the Apple (of course) iChip! (ooohs and aaaaahs)

Ohhh, can I get one implanted??? They will rush to the store/clinics (our kids) - to be trendy - and complete the transaction of selling the human soul to the dark other dimensional controllers.

Not me - I want none of this.

The Greys bought into this... before they looked like Gollum, and acted like robots... and now look at them. Yay!! Let's become slaves like the Greys!!! Go Facebook - Go Twitter!!

Carmody
11th November 2011, 04:45
I'm not that paranoid about Facebook. It's open all the time in my browser just as is Project Avalon and many other pages. And if those fracking intelligence agencies want to know what I'm doing online, they will know it anyway. There's nothing you can do about it except to stay offline, not sure anymore if that helps either. Just use your common sense and think about what you wanna give about yourself to others and what not. That's how I've done it anyways.;)

Here's the problem.

permission. By using Facebook, you give permission. The word and it's meaning is slightly different in spiritual or dimensional realms vs 'here'.... but the result is the same. By being on Facebook, you give permission.

I don't think it's a big problem, this permission given with the spiritual or dimensional value, as a 'take' on the situation, but the people administering Facebook's information, regarding it's nefarious use..those people may think of the dimensional aspects of 'permission', and not any 'incarnated human value system' interpretation.

It also comes down to the speculated 'big computer' the quantum machine that is bandied about, as speculations go. I DO believe that some version of it exists and it MAY be attempting to increase it's capacity for predictability and steering of humanity and it's social structure.

Getting ready for the Aquarian/uranian communications age, the electronic age.

Basically, they are thinking ahead and positioning themselves accordingly, and the herd is not even thinking.

Magnus
11th November 2011, 06:45
"I’m trying to cut down on Facebook. But it’s impossible."

Here is a good way to start:

http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?show_form=delete_account

(You need to be logged on to facebook for the link to work.)

Still, this probably won't result in the kind of total clean-up one wishes for. :ballchain:

jackovesk
13th November 2011, 16:51
Facebook is a CIA Databank

November 12, 2011

Remember when Mark Zuckerberg called his users ''dumb f****''?

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/facebook-big-brother.jpg

by Sandeep Parwaga

In my Feb. 16 article ''Facebook & Google are CIA Fronts,'' I argued that Facebook and Google data mine information about you. This is now public knowledge.

The Associated Press reported November 4 that the CIA has an entire center dedicated to monitoring Facebook and Twitter. They also monitor TV stations and print newspapers [2] and [3].

"The Open Source Center," established in 2005 by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence [4], has been operating since the 9/11 Commission's call for foreign counterintelligence.

Though the CIA claims it only monitors foreign activity, I am skeptical. Not only been the CIA been using proxies, but has devoted an entire center for that operation.

Facebook A Privacy-Eroding Network, Not Social Network

Remember when Mark Zuckerberg called his users ''dumb f****''? [5] If that is not a clear sign of the disdain for the Facebook users, consider these new disturbing facts.

Nik Cubrilovic, an entrepreneur, hacker and writer, revealed that Facebook tracked and stored the Internet browsing of its 750 million users even after they had left the site. [7]

This blog story gained mainstream attention and Facebook conceded it had happened, but denied it was intentional and used for tracking.

In my last article, I mentioned that you should avoid clicking on trivial buttons on Facebook, for example the ''Likes'', because I assumed there was something shady about it.

I discovered recently that when you click on any Like button, you are opening yourself up to being tracked by Facebook. [8]

When Zuckerberg announced the ''Like system'' during a conference (called F8) in 2010 promoting it to make the web more ''social'' and ''smarter'', cnet.com reported '' What Zuckerberg didn't point out is that widespread use of the Like button allows Facebook to track people as they switch from CNN.com to Yelp.com to ESPN.com, all of which are sites that have said they will implement the feature.'' [8]

According to the article, ''Even if someone is not a Facebook user or is not logged in, Facebook's social plug-ins collect the address of the Web page being visited and the Internet address of the visitor as soon as the page is loaded--clicking on the Like button is not required. If enough sites participate, that permits Facebook to assemble a vast amount of data about Internet users' browsing habits.'' [8]

So for example, if you visit CNN.com, ''the Like system'' is able to track your move on that site simply because CNN.com is part of that system. If you then go to ESPN.com you are still being tracked by the Facebook plug-ins, so you don't really need to be a user of Facebook.

Another interesting issue I have discovered was the so called ''cloud computing''. Cloud computing refers to '' the delivery of computing as a service rather than a product, whereby shared resources, software, and information are provided to computers and other devices as a utility (like the electricity grid) over a network (typically the Internet).'' [9]

In an article from the Wall Street Journal, Bruce Schneier reports that cloud computing ''Is one of the fastest growing IT market segments -- 69% of Americans now use some sort of cloud computing services - '' [10] Facebook also uses this cloud computing system. [11]

Mr. Schneier links articles that outline the fact that the cloud computing system is anything but secure and private. According to Mr. Schneier, Google's Terms of Service ''explicitly disavow any warranty or any liability for harm that might result from Google's negligence, recklessness, malevolent intent, or even purposeful disregard of existing legal obligations to protect the privacy and security of user data.'' [10]

Facebook does exactly the same through its Statement of Principles and Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. Apple has also launched the cloud computing system recently.

If you thought that was enough, check this out. Facebook has started a system that can recognize faces so it makes it easier for ''friends'' to tag you. There is not much to say about this, except that it is a very creepy technology. This system has gained funding from the government to track so called ''terrorists''. Now Facebook does that for the government as well. [12]

CONCLUSION

If we think about it, Facebook is nothing but a big Orwellian spy grid. All Facebook's offerings ultimately lead to being tracked. A few months ago I decided to ''delete'' my Facebook account for good. Besides all the Orwellian reasons I ''deleted'' my account, I also considered Mark Dice's Youtube clip ''Defriend Day''. [13]

Dice aays that people's homes got robbed when they post a vacation status or kids got busted for underage drinking. [14] and [15]

The Open Source Center director admits that overseas individuals are being monitored [3] which I suspect is only half the truth. Let's not forget the tremendous amount of lies that have come from the establishment in the past years regarding monitoring and privacy.

For example, it was well known that the FISA law (Foreign Intelligence Service Act) not only spied on foreigners, but on domestic citizens as well. [16]

If you have any concern for your privacy, I would recommend what I recommended before: 1) Try to keep a low profile. 2) Don't reveal anything personal or don't click on trivial buttons, for example the ''Likes'' 3) Use alternatives to make contact if you can, e.g. email or other messengers. 4) Get rid off it for good.

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[1] http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/exclusive-google-cia/
[2] http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-exclusive-cia-twitter-facebook-14878904#.TrdNCtRfauI
[3] http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/the-cia-is-following-twitter-facebook.php
[4] https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/press-release-archive-2005/pr11082005.html
[5] http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/09/20/100920fa_fact_vargas?currentPage=all
[6] http://nikcub.appspot.com/logging-out-of-facebook-is-not-enough
[7] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2042573/Facebook-privacy-row-Social-network-giant-admits-bugs.html
[8] http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20006532-38.html
[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
[10] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123997522418329223.html
[11] http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-data-growth-data-center/
[12] http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/how-facebook-and-facial-recognition-are-creating-minority-report-style-privacy-meltdown-080511
[13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBrfgSiJew4
[14] http://privacy.org/archives/003873.html
[15] http://www.switched.com/2009/11/21/facebook-photos-lead-to-underage-drinking-fines/
[16] http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.henrymakow.com/facebook_is_orwellian_wet_drea.html

Jay
5th December 2011, 07:04
Posted in another thread but for thought again - data reconciliation ... http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/president/multimedia/photos/images/photos/p-018973-00-57h.jpg

ViralSpiral
5th December 2011, 07:32
Posted in another thread but for thought again - data reconciliation ... http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/president/multimedia/photos/images/photos/p-018973-00-57h.jpg




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